WEBVTT - Hour 2: Stumped by Scripture? 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:16.120 Hello, friends. Welcome to Open Line. I am so glad 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.639 to be with you today. My name is Michael Wright. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.160 It's the second hour of Open Line. This is Moody 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:26.120 Radio's Bible study across America. We're talking about your questions 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.760 about the Bible, God and the spiritual life. My name, 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.479 as I said, is Michael Wright. And I'm the academic 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.480 dean and professor of Jewish studies and Bible at Moody 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.840 Bible Institute. We're sitting around the radio kitchen table talking 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.240 about your questions, so why not give me a call? 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:51.199 The phone number is (877) 548-3675. That's (877) 548-3675. 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Um, based on Joseph's, 0:03:34.620 --> 0:03:40.500 on his family values and what God commanded. Why was it? 0:03:40.820 --> 0:03:43.420 Why was he allowed to take a foreign wife? 0:03:45.140 --> 0:03:47.300 Uh, he took an Egyptian wife, right? 0:03:48.060 --> 0:03:48.620 Correct. 0:03:48.660 --> 0:03:49.220 Yeah. 0:03:49.260 --> 0:03:50.740 The pharaoh's daughter. Correct? 0:03:50.780 --> 0:03:53.300 Yeah. I don't know if it was Pharaoh's daughter. I 0:03:53.300 --> 0:03:55.620 know it was an Egyptian wife. Um, Uh. 0:03:55.980 --> 0:03:56.300 Yeah. 0:03:56.740 --> 0:03:59.339 Uh, I'm trying to asnot. I think her name was. 0:03:59.380 --> 0:04:06.860 Wasn't that her name? Uh, but, uh, the I think 0:04:06.860 --> 0:04:12.940 that that it's it's one thing that obviously the Israelites 0:04:12.980 --> 0:04:16.140 living in the land of Israel, when they entered the land, 0:04:16.140 --> 0:04:21.260 they weren't supposed to marry Canaanites. Um, they there was 0:04:21.260 --> 0:04:24.580 a distinction made between those who were of the the 0:04:24.620 --> 0:04:26.580 people that knew the God of Israel and the pagans 0:04:26.580 --> 0:04:29.860 around them, and they weren't supposed to marry those pagans. Uh, 0:04:29.860 --> 0:04:32.380 it fits with what we see in the New Testament, 0:04:32.820 --> 0:04:37.220 where it says that a believer should really marry a 0:04:37.220 --> 0:04:41.419 believing wife or a believing husband, a believing spouse. Uh, 0:04:41.420 --> 0:04:48.500 I think that those are general, generally good rules to follow. Uh, 0:04:48.740 --> 0:04:53.220 that those all go together. Uh, it says, uh, just 0:04:53.220 --> 0:04:59.950 so you know, so I can. Clarify. In first Corinthians 0:04:59.990 --> 0:05:03.550 nine five it says, don't we have the right to 0:05:03.550 --> 0:05:08.349 be accompanied by a sister? As a wife is literally 0:05:08.350 --> 0:05:10.429 what it says a sister in the Lord as a wife. 0:05:10.470 --> 0:05:12.670 It doesn't mean he's marrying his sister, but we have 0:05:12.670 --> 0:05:14.510 a right to marry a sister in the Lord, is 0:05:14.510 --> 0:05:18.950 what Paul says. Um, and so I think that's a 0:05:18.990 --> 0:05:24.310 great verse to remember, um, that, uh, that that the 0:05:24.310 --> 0:05:29.710 Bible does indeed talk about us marrying believers. Uh, you know, 0:05:29.750 --> 0:05:34.469 some people, uh, use the verse about not being unequally yoked, 0:05:34.470 --> 0:05:36.870 but I don't think that's really talking about marriage. But 0:05:36.910 --> 0:05:41.710 in first Corinthians 739, it says, uh, a wife is 0:05:41.710 --> 0:05:44.030 bound as long as her husband is living. But if 0:05:44.029 --> 0:05:46.150 her husband dies, she is free to be married to 0:05:46.190 --> 0:05:50.950 anyone she wants. Only in the Lord. Any believer is 0:05:50.950 --> 0:05:56.270 what that means. So? I'm not disputing that. But I 0:05:56.270 --> 0:05:59.510 do think that where Joseph was a he couldn't leave 0:05:59.510 --> 0:06:02.510 and go back to the land of Israel. He was 0:06:02.790 --> 0:06:05.870 there as the prime minister of Egypt. It was during 0:06:05.910 --> 0:06:08.470 a that was not something that he was going to 0:06:08.470 --> 0:06:10.909 do is go back to the land. He had to 0:06:10.950 --> 0:06:15.110 he was kind of expected to marry. And so he married. Now, 0:06:15.110 --> 0:06:18.190 I don't know if his wife became a believer in 0:06:18.190 --> 0:06:21.909 the God of Israel through Joseph, but I think that's 0:06:21.910 --> 0:06:25.230 that's why he took an Egyptian wife. In my opinion, 0:06:25.470 --> 0:06:31.109 it was one of those unusual circumstances that he was facing. Okay. 0:06:31.990 --> 0:06:34.349 Right. I get it. Okay. Well. Thank you. I appreciate 0:06:34.350 --> 0:06:35.429 your time this morning. 0:06:35.470 --> 0:06:37.910 Yeah. You know, I think sometimes we become. We have 0:06:37.910 --> 0:06:41.589 to be really careful about this. Uh, good principle there 0:06:42.070 --> 0:06:44.590 to to marry a believer. Clearly. 0:06:45.029 --> 0:06:46.070 Um, absolutely. 0:06:46.390 --> 0:06:49.830 Uh, something that we should follow. But you just never know. There. 0:06:49.830 --> 0:06:56.000 There may be exigent circumstances that might cause an occasional change, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:07:01.359 like what Joseph did. You know, I, I, uh, my 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.880 mom married someone that didn't know the Lord after she 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:09.360 knew the Lord. It was right after the Holocaust. Um, and, uh, 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.600 my parents were coming up on, uh, this is kind 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.040 of a big deal for me. It's 80 years in. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.440 May will be the day of the anniversary of their 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:23.800 liberation from concentration camp. May 8th, 1945. So May 8th, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.240 2025 will be 80 years from their day of liberation 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:31.560 from slavery. And, uh, that's pretty pretty meaningful to me. 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.080 But here's the thing that I think is interesting is 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:39.440 my dad married after the war. His wife died in childbirth, and, uh, 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.680 he had a premature infant, my brother in a hospital, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.800 and he didn't know what he was going to do. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:50.320 And he saw my mom, uh, who was a nurse 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:54.800 in that hospital. And this is in 1947. And he said, 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.800 I need someone to care for this baby. And he 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.720 did sort of an arranged marriage, sort of like in 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.920 Fiddler on the roof, because he needed someone to care 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.720 for that baby. And my mom, though she would only 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:08.200 want to marry a fellow believer, she felt such compassion 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.520 for that baby and felt a need to care for 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.600 that baby. And also the heartbreak of my dad. After 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.120 losing his wife and children in the Holocaust and then 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.120 losing his his wife after the Holocaust, that in light 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.440 of that circumstance, my mom chose to marry someone that 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:30.360 didn't know the Lord. And and I think exigent circumstances, uh, 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.440 you know, explains that. So that's that's and, you know, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.720 I often think about it. What if my mom had said, no, 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.000 I'm not going to marry someone who doesn't know the Lord. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:46.240 I wouldn't be here. So true. So I don't know, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.650 I what am I going to say? That's, uh. That's. 0:08:49.690 --> 0:08:53.410 It was a tough, tough situation. So anyway. But thanks. 0:08:53.450 --> 0:08:55.610 Absolutely. Yeah. If I, if I could just make a 0:08:55.610 --> 0:08:58.890 real quick comment, I just want you to know that, um, 0:08:58.890 --> 0:09:02.650 I wear the Star of David along with my cross 0:09:02.690 --> 0:09:05.930 around my neck constantly, and I am in full support 0:09:05.929 --> 0:09:07.650 and pray for Israel all the time. 0:09:07.690 --> 0:09:10.490 Oh, thank you so much. I really appreciate that. Hey, 0:09:10.530 --> 0:09:12.210 you know, I'm so glad you mentioned that. I went 0:09:12.210 --> 0:09:15.130 to see a movie yesterday and I want to warn 0:09:15.130 --> 0:09:18.930 people there's some vulgar words used because it's about protesters, uh, 0:09:18.929 --> 0:09:26.010 and anti-Semitic, uh, events in America mainly. And the name 0:09:26.010 --> 0:09:31.450 of the movie is called October 8th. Uh, October 8th. 0:09:31.450 --> 0:09:35.250 And it's, uh, some are calling it October hate. Uh, 0:09:35.250 --> 0:09:38.810 and it's about antisemitism that has arisen in America. The 0:09:38.809 --> 0:09:41.929 first seven minutes or so are about the October 7th 0:09:41.929 --> 0:09:49.410 attack by Hamas. But October 8th Is about really the 0:09:49.410 --> 0:09:53.650 main part of the the movie is about the eruption 0:09:53.650 --> 0:09:59.209 of anti-Semitism across America, particularly on our college campuses. After 0:09:59.250 --> 0:10:03.010 the attack. And it is, I have to say, the 0:10:03.050 --> 0:10:06.130 the good news is that it's so well done. It's 0:10:06.130 --> 0:10:08.130 not enjoyable, but it's so well done, I think. I 0:10:08.130 --> 0:10:11.650 wish everyone could see it. The bad news is I 0:10:11.650 --> 0:10:15.569 went to a theater to see it with two friends 0:10:15.570 --> 0:10:18.850 of mine, and we were the only three people in 0:10:18.850 --> 0:10:22.170 the theater. No one is seeing it. And it it 0:10:22.210 --> 0:10:25.530 just breaks my heart because I think it's so important 0:10:25.890 --> 0:10:31.290 to see. So, uh, that that's that's crucial. And I 0:10:31.290 --> 0:10:33.929 appreciate your, your love and support. And thanks for this 0:10:33.929 --> 0:10:37.530 really interesting and good question. Uh, we're we're going to 0:10:37.530 --> 0:10:39.890 take a break here. Thanks for calling, Renee. When we 0:10:39.929 --> 0:10:43.610 come back, we're going to take more of your questions. Uh, 0:10:44.010 --> 0:10:50.380 you can call 275483675. And when we come back, we'll 0:10:50.380 --> 0:10:53.220 be taking your questions about the Bible, God and the 0:10:53.220 --> 0:10:57.380 spiritual life. This is open line with Michael. Stay with us. 0:10:57.700 --> 0:11:18.380 We're going to have more questions straight ahead. Welcome back 0:11:18.380 --> 0:11:21.260 to Open Line. So glad to be with you this 0:11:21.260 --> 0:11:24.300 Saturday morning. My name is Michael Ryder and we are 0:11:24.300 --> 0:11:29.700 talking about the scriptures together. Uh, I, I did want 0:11:29.740 --> 0:11:34.060 to mention that, uh, I'm glad to be here with 0:11:34.059 --> 0:11:38.540 Tricia and with Omar and Lisa and Titus answering the phones. 0:11:39.540 --> 0:11:41.700 One of the things I've noticed is that people who 0:11:41.700 --> 0:11:45.780 write or listen to Open Line will often mention how 0:11:45.780 --> 0:11:48.780 much they appreciate the team, and I do too. 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And we're going to talk to Bruce in Woodstock, Illinois, 0:13:08.950 --> 0:13:12.150 listening on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line, Bruce. How can 0:13:12.150 --> 0:13:12.670 I help you? 0:13:12.710 --> 0:13:16.710 Hi, Doctor Randall. Yeah. My question is related to your 0:13:16.710 --> 0:13:22.230 first caller on the 9:00 show. Um, since I believe 0:13:22.270 --> 0:13:25.870 that the a human baby is born with a brain 0:13:25.870 --> 0:13:29.670 that is like a blank slate, and he goes through 0:13:29.710 --> 0:13:35.670 life collecting, you know, knowledge, but not necessarily wisdom. My 0:13:35.670 --> 0:13:40.070 question is, when did Jesus receive God's wisdom and truth? 0:13:40.429 --> 0:13:43.510 Maybe when he was fasting out in the desert 40 0:13:43.510 --> 0:13:44.350 days or. 0:13:44.670 --> 0:13:46.870 Oh, I think he was a little bit older than. 0:13:46.870 --> 0:13:49.630 I think he must have had God's wisdom much earlier, 0:13:49.630 --> 0:13:52.270 because it says that when he was 12 years old 0:13:52.990 --> 0:13:56.350 and he went to the temple, they were amazed at 0:13:56.350 --> 0:13:59.550 his wisdom. Right? So. 0:13:59.710 --> 0:14:00.110 Right. 0:14:00.470 --> 0:14:06.070 Uh, so, uh, what what I would say is I 0:14:06.190 --> 0:14:08.709 can't give you a precise age or date, but this 0:14:08.710 --> 0:14:12.750 is what I do know. Uh, in the third servant song, 0:14:12.750 --> 0:14:15.790 Isaiah has four servant songs. Four songs about the servant 0:14:15.790 --> 0:14:19.390 of the Lord, four poems or songs, and they're called 0:14:19.390 --> 0:14:23.270 the Servant Songs. And the third one, these are messianic 0:14:23.270 --> 0:14:27.310 passages in the Hebrew Bible that point forward to the Messiah. 0:14:27.910 --> 0:14:30.870 And the second and third of the servant songs are 0:14:30.870 --> 0:14:35.670 written in the first person, uh, as like an autobiographical statement. 0:14:35.710 --> 0:14:41.070 It's poetically the servant speaks and he says, uh, the 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.800 Lord God has given me the tongue. Of one who 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.440 is instructed to know how to sustain the weary with 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:53.560 a word. Obviously, he's been taught in wisdom. How? It 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:58.320 says he awakens me each morning. He awakens my ear 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:03.520 to listen like those being instructed. And so it seems 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.680 to me that from the earliest age, when there was 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:12.400 some cognizance cognition on the part of of Jesus born 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:16.200 to Joseph, to born to Mary, and adopted by Joseph, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.480 that this one as a child would be awakened by 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:27.680 his true father, and instructed in wisdom and identity and 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:32.480 who he really was. Uh, and so by the time 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:37.720 he was 12, he was able to or the Jewish 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:42.000 leaders in the temple with his great wisdom. Okay, that's 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:42.720 what I think. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.520 Okay, so you're saying he had, like, a spiritual mental 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.840 attitude at an early age, and then he was he 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.560 awakened every morning to new information coming from God. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.840 I wouldn't say it is some sort of spiritual attitude. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.280 I was just saying that God woke him every morning 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:05.000 and instructed him. God the father. Okay, thanks for your call. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:09.120 Really appreciate it. Uh, we're going to talk with Tim 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:13.520 in Joliet, Illinois, listening on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line, Tim. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:14.800 How can I help you? 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.440 Uh. Yes, sir. Thank you for taking my call. Uh, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.400 I got a question about my son. Uh, my son 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.640 was raised in church his whole life. Uh, I was 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.760 there when he accepted Jesus Christ as his savior. But 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.520 now he wants to live a homosexual life. And my 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.960 question is, can a person who is saved live that 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:36.440 type of life and still go to heaven? 0:16:38.970 --> 0:16:42.730 Well, I think it's a person. Definitely a person who 0:16:42.730 --> 0:16:48.810 is a believer could have temptations in that area. Uh, 0:16:48.810 --> 0:16:52.890 there's no. And not just temptations, but failures. Sins in 0:16:52.930 --> 0:16:57.010 that area. There's there's no doubt in my mind that 0:16:57.010 --> 0:17:04.650 that's possible. Um, and, uh. The, the one thing I 0:17:04.650 --> 0:17:07.810 would say is if he has made a firm decision 0:17:08.410 --> 0:17:12.209 to say I am going to live this life. Uh, 0:17:12.210 --> 0:17:14.770 I don't know what his destiny is, but I would 0:17:14.770 --> 0:17:18.050 say that, generally speaking, uh, what the Bible says is 0:17:18.090 --> 0:17:21.730 those who have made that firm decision to live that 0:17:21.730 --> 0:17:23.450 life really don't know the Lord. 0:17:23.890 --> 0:17:24.770 Uh, right. 0:17:25.130 --> 0:17:30.730 Uh, but but, uh, I in first Corinthians chapter six, 0:17:30.770 --> 0:17:36.449 it says, and such were some of you. And so, uh, yes, 0:17:36.450 --> 0:17:40.770 it's certainly to come out of that and become a believer. Uh, I, 0:17:40.770 --> 0:17:42.730 you know, I really want to be sensitive about this 0:17:42.730 --> 0:17:45.610 because I don't know a person's destiny. But I do 0:17:45.650 --> 0:17:51.490 know what the Bible teaches about this, and, uh, it's 0:17:51.530 --> 0:17:54.090 it's not a black and white issue. I mean, obviously, 0:17:54.090 --> 0:17:57.969 people have sins. They have areas, heterosexuals have areas of 0:17:57.970 --> 0:18:01.889 sexual temptation and sexual sin. And that doesn't mean they 0:18:01.890 --> 0:18:06.889 can't be saved. But, uh, if if a person just 0:18:06.890 --> 0:18:09.290 flagrantly says, I'm not going to obey what the Bible 0:18:09.290 --> 0:18:13.850 says about this, uh, then I about heterosexuals and I 0:18:13.850 --> 0:18:17.570 would wonder if they really know the Lord. Uh, but I, 0:18:17.810 --> 0:18:20.570 I want to give you some time to think and 0:18:20.570 --> 0:18:23.170 pray for your son. Don't cut off your son. 0:18:23.730 --> 0:18:24.370 No, no. 0:18:25.090 --> 0:18:30.690 But, uh, you know, Chris Ewen, uh, his, uh, story 0:18:31.490 --> 0:18:35.410 about how his mom prayed him into the kingdom. Uh, 0:18:35.450 --> 0:18:37.460 I don't know. Have you read anything by Chris Ewen? 0:18:38.340 --> 0:18:38.780 No, sir. 0:18:39.260 --> 0:18:43.780 Okay. And he's got a book called Holy Sexuality, which 0:18:43.780 --> 0:18:46.700 he goes over. Uh, he's got two books. One is 0:18:46.700 --> 0:18:50.060 his faith story, which I. I can't remember the title, 0:18:50.100 --> 0:18:51.820 but Trish is going to find it for us in 0:18:51.820 --> 0:18:55.700 a second. Uh, and, uh, and then there's the book 0:18:55.700 --> 0:18:59.580 that he wrote called Holy Sexuality. It's Chris, Doctor Christopher Ewen. 0:18:59.619 --> 0:19:02.660 He was a student at Moody, later became a professor 0:19:03.220 --> 0:19:08.859 at Moody taught adjunct here. Uh, he it's a remarkable book. 0:19:08.859 --> 0:19:11.700 Both of those books are just terrific. Uh, also, you 0:19:11.700 --> 0:19:15.500 can go to the Moody YouTube channel, the Moody Bible 0:19:15.500 --> 0:19:18.660 Institute YouTube channel, and you'll see that last year, uh, 0:19:18.859 --> 0:19:22.179 Chris Ewen spoke at Founders Week and did a marvelous job. 0:19:22.180 --> 0:19:26.899 And those, uh, recordings are there. And I would watch those. Uh, 0:19:26.900 --> 0:19:34.180 his his story as well as his teaching workshop. Uh, 0:19:34.180 --> 0:19:38.220 it's called out of a far country. Uh, Tricia tells me, uh, 0:19:38.220 --> 0:19:42.180 out of a far country. Uh, I, I care so 0:19:42.180 --> 0:19:48.460 deeply for people who have temptations and same sex attraction. Uh, 0:19:48.900 --> 0:19:51.860 I don't want to write them off. I think that, uh, 0:19:51.859 --> 0:19:57.260 God can really, uh, bring them to a place of holiness. Um, and, uh, 0:19:57.260 --> 0:20:01.540 so don't write your son off. Um, okay. I know 0:20:01.540 --> 0:20:02.379 it breaks your heart. 0:20:03.060 --> 0:20:04.540 As a matter of fact, he still goes to church 0:20:04.540 --> 0:20:05.100 with us. 0:20:05.140 --> 0:20:08.500 Okay. Uh, and, you know, uh, sometimes I think people 0:20:08.500 --> 0:20:13.540 just may have to choose holiness over, uh, carrying out 0:20:13.980 --> 0:20:17.540 their desires. And that's, uh. I'm not asking anyone to 0:20:17.580 --> 0:20:21.060 change their desires, but to live in a holy life. 0:20:21.060 --> 0:20:24.060 To put. Because God's really most concerned about our holiness. 0:20:24.180 --> 0:20:27.939 He's not concerned about our sexuality as much. Uh, he 0:20:27.940 --> 0:20:29.379 wants us to be obedient. 0:20:29.820 --> 0:20:31.580 And so let me ask you this real quick. 0:20:32.660 --> 0:20:36.070 Because when I they pray, I pray that his walk 0:20:36.070 --> 0:20:40.150 with Jesus Christ would be real and would be right. 0:20:40.910 --> 0:20:44.030 What else? What? And I've been praying for years about this. 0:20:44.190 --> 0:20:44.750 Mhm. 0:20:45.350 --> 0:20:47.710 And I was just kind of wondering if maybe, if 0:20:48.470 --> 0:20:49.989 I'm praying the wrong prayer or should I. 0:20:50.030 --> 0:20:52.430 No. You keep praying for him. Pray for him to 0:20:52.470 --> 0:20:56.230 come to a conviction about being obedient to the Lord 0:20:56.230 --> 0:20:59.430 in this area and, uh, and to live a life 0:20:59.430 --> 0:21:01.310 of holiness. That's what I would pray for. 0:21:01.869 --> 0:21:03.030 Alrighty. Thank you very much. 0:21:03.070 --> 0:21:06.310 Okay. Thanks, Tim, for your call, I appreciate it. Uh, 0:21:07.230 --> 0:21:10.710 I'm going to let's let's talk with Anthony in Wheaton 0:21:10.710 --> 0:21:14.150 listening on WNBA. Welcome to Open Line, Anthony. How can 0:21:14.150 --> 0:21:14.830 I help you? 0:21:16.470 --> 0:21:20.350 Yes. I have this question, um, about, um, covering the 0:21:20.350 --> 0:21:23.670 head while you're praying. And it comes from first Corinthians 0:21:23.670 --> 0:21:29.270 11 four where Paul spoke about, uh, not covering your head, uh, 0:21:29.310 --> 0:21:32.790 as a man who would then dishonor his head. But 0:21:32.830 --> 0:21:36.710 then we have in Exodus 29 six, we see a 0:21:36.750 --> 0:21:39.870 report on the high priest and his dress, and his 0:21:39.869 --> 0:21:44.550 head is covered with a turban. Um, in in our day, um, 0:21:44.670 --> 0:21:48.430 we see a lot of messianic believers coming to Christ. Um, 0:21:48.430 --> 0:21:51.270 some of whom are praying with their heads covered and 0:21:51.270 --> 0:21:53.950 so on. So I'm not really clear on this. I'd 0:21:53.950 --> 0:21:55.470 love to have some clarity on it. 0:21:55.510 --> 0:21:55.910 Well. 0:21:56.310 --> 0:22:00.070 I would, I actually think is referring to there is 0:22:00.270 --> 0:22:06.270 a sense of shame before God. Uh, that a man would, uh, 0:22:07.430 --> 0:22:10.189 not just cover his head with a, like, a miter, 0:22:10.190 --> 0:22:14.190 like the high priest would have worn a crown or, uh, 0:22:14.790 --> 0:22:18.750 or a turban kind of thing. Might. Or I guess 0:22:18.750 --> 0:22:22.710 it would be the best description. It's not talking about, uh, 0:22:22.710 --> 0:22:26.870 a kippah or a some an American people call him 0:22:26.869 --> 0:22:31.120 a yarmulke. Uh, that Jewish people wear. It's talking about 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:35.119 taking a prayer shawl or something to that effect, and 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:40.080 covering one's head up completely, covering the face and using 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:43.920 that kind of head cover out of shame before God. 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.320 But if we know the Lord, what we can do 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:50.959 is we can take that head covering off and stand 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:55.120 before God through Jesus. And we don't need to do that. 0:22:55.119 --> 0:23:00.320 But it's not talking about, uh, just a plain kippah or, uh, 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.560 or even a miter. It's not talking about that. 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:04.879 Very good. 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:06.680 Thank you. Yeah. Appreciate that. 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.800 Yeah. Thanks for your call. Appreciate it. Uh, we're going 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:14.480 to talk to Dan in Scottsdale, Arizona, listening online. So 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:16.920 glad you're doing that. Anyone can get the Moody Radio 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:21.400 app and listen online or on their computer. Uh, hey, Dan, 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:22.399 how can I help you? 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:29.240 Yes, I am calling about, um, uh, when Israel is, like, 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:30.360 going to war. 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.760 What do you mean? Biblical Israel? Current modern day Israel. 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:35.720 What are you talking about? 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:41.480 Neither. Or are they supposed to, uh, get together and 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:47.160 pray about it before they go to war? Or, um, 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:48.800 just go to war? 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:49.119 Well. 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:56.560 Obviously in in the Bible, uh, they had a prophet 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:58.520 to tell them to go to war or not to 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:05.240 go to war. Uh, like, uh, in judges, uh, when 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:10.280 the prophetess Deborah basically sets up the attack, tells uh 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:15.960 uh uh uh. Barak to go to war. Uh, and 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.320 he says, Deborah, come with me. But she's a prophetess. 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.920 She's given him the word. Uh, it's a different circumstance today, 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.280 like when Israel just went to war with Hamas. Uh, 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:29.889 it was based. It's biblical, but it wasn't a direct command. 0:24:30.170 --> 0:24:32.930 In Romans 13 four it says a government has been 0:24:32.930 --> 0:24:36.369 given the power of the sword, the authority of the sword, uh, 0:24:36.930 --> 0:24:43.770 to punish the wicked and and, uh, to protect the innocent. 0:24:44.090 --> 0:24:47.850 And when a nation is attacked like Israel was, uh, 0:24:48.810 --> 0:24:52.850 they have a an obligation to go to war in 0:24:52.890 --> 0:24:56.970 that circumstance is what Ephesians, Ecclesiastes chapter three says. There's 0:24:57.010 --> 0:24:59.409 a season for war, a time for war, and a 0:24:59.410 --> 0:25:02.410 time for peace. And so I don't think that they 0:25:02.609 --> 0:25:07.010 I'm sure there are people who prayed, but, uh, I 0:25:07.290 --> 0:25:09.090 don't know if that answers your question. I hope it does. 0:25:09.090 --> 0:25:12.210 But there was an obligation to go to war immediately, 0:25:12.490 --> 0:25:14.650 not necessarily just something that they were going to wait 0:25:14.650 --> 0:25:16.449 for a prophet to tell them to do so. 0:25:17.770 --> 0:25:19.530 Okay. Well, thank you for that. 0:25:19.570 --> 0:25:24.090 Yeah. I that's it's not very different than the United 0:25:24.090 --> 0:25:27.859 States going to war after Pearl Harbor. So that's. 0:25:27.900 --> 0:25:28.380 Right. 0:25:28.540 --> 0:25:32.419 Same same kind of situation. So anyway, thank. Thanks for 0:25:32.420 --> 0:25:36.140 your call, Dan. Appreciate it. Uh mailbags. Coming up in 0:25:36.140 --> 0:25:40.020 just a moment. The Febc mailbag with Tricia McMillan. She's 0:25:40.020 --> 0:25:42.100 going to be here. We're going to take the questions 0:25:42.100 --> 0:25:45.940 that you've sent in by going to NPR.org and clicking 0:25:45.940 --> 0:25:48.780 on Ask Michael a question. 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It's a wonderful ministry that brings the gospel 0:26:40.859 --> 0:26:45.139 through media and through personal contact all around the globe. 0:26:45.380 --> 0:26:47.340 If you'd like to know more about this ministry, they 0:26:47.340 --> 0:26:51.140 have a great podcast called Until All Have Heard. And 0:26:51.140 --> 0:26:54.620 you can get it by going to npr.org and clicking 0:26:54.619 --> 0:26:58.860 on the link there about the podcast until all I've heard. 0:26:58.900 --> 0:27:07.179 And it's this great podcast with Ed Cannon and Wayne Shepherd. Well. Hey, Tricia. Hello. Hey. 0:27:07.420 --> 0:27:09.219 So I don't want to take up a whole lot 0:27:09.220 --> 0:27:11.100 of time, but I do want to remind people that 0:27:11.100 --> 0:27:13.459 we've got the called conference coming up. You said to 0:27:13.460 --> 0:27:16.500 me last hour that your sister went in the past. Yes. 0:27:16.540 --> 0:27:19.379 And she's really enjoyed it and has benefited from it. 0:27:19.420 --> 0:27:21.580 It's a conference for women. I know you're going to 0:27:21.580 --> 0:27:26.150 like it. Pam McRae leads it, I just think that 0:27:26.470 --> 0:27:28.510 if I were a woman, it's not something I'd want 0:27:28.550 --> 0:27:31.510 to miss. You can watch it online, or you can 0:27:31.510 --> 0:27:35.030 be here present at Tory Gray Auditorium, which is a 0:27:35.470 --> 0:27:37.669 I think it's always more fun to be present with 0:27:37.670 --> 0:27:42.270 all those women, uh, singing together. Worshiping together. Check out 0:27:42.310 --> 0:27:45.070 Moody conferences. Right? 0:27:45.109 --> 0:27:45.590 Yes. 0:27:45.710 --> 0:27:48.709 Yeah. That's it. Okay. And there's a link on our, uh. 0:27:48.710 --> 0:27:50.590 There's not yet. I'm having website issues. 0:27:50.630 --> 0:27:51.389 Okay. But. 0:27:51.390 --> 0:27:53.270 Okay. I will get a link up there soon. It 0:27:53.270 --> 0:27:55.590 is April 12th. April, you do have a little bit 0:27:55.590 --> 0:27:58.030 of time? Yeah. That you can look into it. And again, 0:27:58.030 --> 0:28:00.950 if you're a women in ministry of any kind, you know, 0:28:00.990 --> 0:28:05.230 in the home, in your church, uh, children's ministry, um, 0:28:05.310 --> 0:28:08.790 women's ministry, you lead a Bible study. Any of those 0:28:08.790 --> 0:28:12.830 ways that you're serving? Um, I think you would be encouraged. 0:28:12.830 --> 0:28:15.830 And it kind of helps revive your spirit a little 0:28:15.830 --> 0:28:17.710 bit when you get to worship with other women. 0:28:17.750 --> 0:28:18.109 Yeah, I. 0:28:18.109 --> 0:28:20.429 Think it's learn and get that good Bible teaching. Yep. 0:28:20.910 --> 0:28:25.630 Well, you've put together this mailbag and, uh, there's there's 0:28:25.630 --> 0:28:27.990 some good questions here. What have we got today? 0:28:28.030 --> 0:28:31.950 Okay. Bonnie wrote us from Ohio. Listens to Wtxf. She 0:28:31.950 --> 0:28:34.190 wants to know what the Bible says about taking legal 0:28:34.190 --> 0:28:37.310 action in her particular situation. It was something with a 0:28:37.310 --> 0:28:41.430 doctor and medical professionals, uh, during a surgery. She was 0:28:41.430 --> 0:28:43.910 always taught that God's people are not supposed to take 0:28:43.910 --> 0:28:47.790 legal action. So how does that fall into these types 0:28:47.790 --> 0:28:48.670 of situations? 0:28:48.710 --> 0:28:56.550 It all depends on whether or not the physician was a, uh, 0:28:56.550 --> 0:29:01.310 a believer in Jesus or not. If he's a believer, 0:29:01.710 --> 0:29:06.630 the Bible doesn't say that we can't get, um, how 0:29:06.630 --> 0:29:13.470 do I put it? Proper restitution or resolution on conflicting matters. 0:29:13.950 --> 0:29:17.510 But what it says in the book of First Corinthians 0:29:18.190 --> 0:29:23.360 is that we're not supposed to What we. What we 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.240 need to do is take it to the church, let 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:30.920 the church resolve those disputes rather than us to take 0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.920 it to the courts. So here's what it says in 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:37.240 first Corinthians six. If any of you has a legal 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.680 dispute against another, do you dare to go to court 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:45.239 before the unrighteous and not before the saints? Don't you 0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.800 know that the saints will judge the world? If the 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.719 world is judged by you, are you unworthy to judge 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:54.040 the smallest cases? Don't you know that we will judge angels, 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.760 not to mention ordinary matters? So you have cases pertaining 0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.680 to this life. Do you select those who have no 0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.600 standing in the church to judge? I say this to 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.920 your shame. Can it be there is no one wise 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.840 person among you who is able to arbitrate between his 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.640 brothers and said believer goes to court against believer, and 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:16.200 that before unbelievers. And so the issue there is taking 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:21.160 a believer to court and trying to get it resolved 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:25.600 in the courts. I have a firm conviction that there, 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:29.840 and that's why there's Christian mediation and arbitration groups. One 0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.800 of the things that I've I've signed a bunch of 0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:38.800 writing contracts, and I've always tried to insist that, you know, 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:43.400 in writing contracts, publisher contracts, it'll say something like these. 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:47.600 Any disputes will be resolved by the the state courts. Okay. 0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:54.280 And and I always when I'm writing for a Christian publisher, 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.760 I always write I change it to will be resolved 0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:04.600 through Christian arbitration where believers can judge what's right or 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.239 wrong and people will agree to that. And so I 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:11.760 think it's really important that, uh, that if there's a 0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:15.960 if you have a grievance with a fellow believer, don't 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.080 take it to the courts, but take it to Christian 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.170 arbitration or the local church, or there's any number of 0:31:21.170 --> 0:31:26.170 ways you can do that. The and it actually goes 0:31:26.170 --> 0:31:29.810 on to say you should rather be wronged. Uh, if 0:31:29.850 --> 0:31:33.370 you have legal disputes against one another, why not rather 0:31:33.370 --> 0:31:37.130 put up with injustice? Do not. Why not rather be cheated? 0:31:38.290 --> 0:31:40.610 In other words, if you can't get the the fellow 0:31:40.610 --> 0:31:46.010 believer to to go to arbitration with you, with Christian arbitration, 0:31:46.330 --> 0:31:51.090 be better to be cheated. That said, uh, this is 0:31:51.090 --> 0:31:55.610 not a wholesale prohibition against lawsuits. If you're if you 0:31:55.610 --> 0:31:58.970 have a conflict like this, a malpractice suit against a 0:31:58.970 --> 0:32:03.090 physician and the physicians, the physician is not a believer, 0:32:03.610 --> 0:32:07.770 then there's no limitation there. It is permissible. 0:32:08.210 --> 0:32:08.690 Okay. 0:32:08.850 --> 0:32:09.209 Okay. 0:32:09.250 --> 0:32:12.770 All right. And that was first Corinthians six. Okay. All right. 0:32:12.770 --> 0:32:15.610 Thank you for that question, Bonnie. I hope that helps. Uh, 0:32:15.650 --> 0:32:20.490 next question is from Mike Wright. That was the one 0:32:20.770 --> 0:32:23.050 that we talked about. Okay. Yeah. What is your opinion 0:32:23.090 --> 0:32:26.730 of infant baptism as a parallel to circumcision? 0:32:27.570 --> 0:32:34.410 Hmm. Well, the basis of people seeing infant baptism as 0:32:34.450 --> 0:32:42.010 a Christian replacement for circumcision is from the book of Colossians, 0:32:43.930 --> 0:32:49.850 chapter two, I believe. Uh, see if I can find 0:32:49.850 --> 0:32:54.930 the exact verse. Yeah, here it is. Uh, it says 0:32:54.930 --> 0:33:00.090 in Colossians two verse 11, you were also circumcised in 0:33:00.090 --> 0:33:04.890 him without with a circumcision not done with hands by 0:33:04.890 --> 0:33:11.930 putting off the body of flesh in the circumcision of Messiah. Okay. 0:33:11.970 --> 0:33:16.290 So it's there. What it's talking about is spiritual circumcision. Uh, 0:33:16.420 --> 0:33:19.660 The New Covenant is sometimes like that. Circumcision of the heart. 0:33:19.700 --> 0:33:22.820 The Book of Jeremiah talks about how Israel, when they 0:33:22.820 --> 0:33:25.780 come to know the Lord, they won't just be circumcised 0:33:25.900 --> 0:33:29.540 in the flesh, they would be circumcised in the heart. 0:33:31.660 --> 0:33:36.260 And then it says, having been buried with him in baptism, 0:33:36.260 --> 0:33:38.860 you were also raised with him through faith in the 0:33:38.860 --> 0:33:41.860 working of God, who raised you from the dead. And 0:33:41.860 --> 0:33:44.900 so what they say is, see, look, he's talking about 0:33:44.900 --> 0:33:51.060 circumcision here. And and then he talks about baptism in 0:33:51.060 --> 0:33:55.700 verse 12. And so obviously baptism replaces circumcision. I don't 0:33:55.700 --> 0:33:57.900 think that what this verse is saying. I don't think 0:33:57.900 --> 0:34:01.340 it's saying that at all. What I think it's saying 0:34:01.340 --> 0:34:05.740 is that we have a circumcised heart through the New covenant. 0:34:06.020 --> 0:34:10.020 And when we put on the New Covenant, uh, what 0:34:10.020 --> 0:34:14.300 do we do is we express that through baptism. And 0:34:14.300 --> 0:34:19.299 so circumcision of the heart happens when we believe. And 0:34:19.300 --> 0:34:24.219 then baptism follows that up as the expression of that 0:34:24.219 --> 0:34:30.020 new circumcised heart. It doesn't mean that babies should be baptized. 0:34:30.020 --> 0:34:33.500 It's not talking about infant baptism here. It's what it's 0:34:33.500 --> 0:34:40.100 talking about is circumcision of the heart becoming a genuine believer. 0:34:40.100 --> 0:34:44.140 What do you do then? You, you you're baptized. That's 0:34:44.140 --> 0:34:46.620 what you do to to express it. Okay, so it's 0:34:46.620 --> 0:34:49.779 talking about adult baptism there. It's not really dealing with 0:34:49.780 --> 0:34:52.380 physical circumcision okay. Yeah. 0:34:52.420 --> 0:34:58.180 Okay. That's helpful to know. Yeah. I have another question. Um, 0:34:58.739 --> 0:35:01.819 which I wrote down somewhere else. Hold on. Just. 0:35:01.860 --> 0:35:02.860 Okay. Oh, wait wait wait. 0:35:03.260 --> 0:35:03.460 Do you. 0:35:03.460 --> 0:35:03.700 Have. 0:35:03.700 --> 0:35:05.340 It on the screen there? 0:35:05.380 --> 0:35:05.980 Yeah. 0:35:06.100 --> 0:35:09.219 Uh, she is a follow up on the question about 0:35:09.219 --> 0:35:10.580 Daniel's 70 weeks. 0:35:10.620 --> 0:35:14.750 Yes. Yeah. Why? Um. Why is it that they say 0:35:14.790 --> 0:35:16.830 weeks instead of years? 0:35:16.870 --> 0:35:17.190 Yeah. 0:35:17.230 --> 0:35:17.910 Like why? 0:35:18.070 --> 0:35:18.470 Because. 0:35:18.910 --> 0:35:21.630 Well. Well, even she said it kind of discourages her 0:35:21.630 --> 0:35:24.270 from reading the Bible, because why can't it just be plain? 0:35:24.310 --> 0:35:26.549 Like, why can't, why can't it just be plain? Yeah. 0:35:26.590 --> 0:35:29.150 Why can't it be straightforward? Like why, why talk in 0:35:29.190 --> 0:35:31.310 kind of these. Yeah. Hidden meanings. 0:35:31.350 --> 0:35:36.270 Yeah. I think, um, I think there's something to that, 0:35:36.270 --> 0:35:41.670 but I'll tell you why. Okay. Yes. Um, first of all, uh, 0:35:41.670 --> 0:35:44.750 there was a translation. Uh, I don't know if they 0:35:44.790 --> 0:35:49.150 kept it, but the original NIV, which used to say 0:35:49.469 --> 0:35:55.030 70 sevens have been set apart for your people. Not weeks. 0:35:55.030 --> 0:35:59.710 It doesn't use the word week. It uses the word sevens. Okay. Uh, 0:35:59.710 --> 0:36:04.030 that's much closer to what the Hebrew actually says. Okay. 0:36:04.310 --> 0:36:10.430 It could be translated 70 peptides. Okay. What's a heptad? 0:36:11.030 --> 0:36:12.310 It means seven. 0:36:12.390 --> 0:36:17.110 Yeah, it's a seven. It's like if I said 70 dozens, 0:36:17.110 --> 0:36:20.310 that would be 70 twelves. Right, right, right. If I 0:36:20.350 --> 0:36:22.950 sent you to the store and said, pick me up 0:36:22.950 --> 0:36:24.670 a dozen when you go to the grocery store. 0:36:24.710 --> 0:36:25.670 I'll get you 12. 0:36:25.830 --> 0:36:26.470 Of what? 0:36:26.830 --> 0:36:28.670 Of whatever. Whatever you need. 0:36:28.710 --> 0:36:30.710 Whatever. Well, no. Whatever we were talking about. 0:36:30.750 --> 0:36:34.110 Right. You need a dozen eggs. I'll just get one. Yeah. Not. Not. 0:36:34.150 --> 0:36:36.230 Yeah, we were talking about eggs. Oh, I don't have 0:36:36.230 --> 0:36:38.669 any eggs. Can you pick up a dozen? Right. You'd 0:36:38.670 --> 0:36:39.629 know the context. 0:36:40.070 --> 0:36:40.590 Right? 0:36:40.630 --> 0:36:41.310 Exactly. 0:36:41.350 --> 0:36:41.790 Okay. 0:36:41.830 --> 0:36:44.670 Uh, well, the same thing in Daniel nine. It says 0:36:44.710 --> 0:36:47.990 77 have been decreed for your people. And the whole 0:36:47.989 --> 0:36:52.469 context tells us that it's referring to years. Uh, the 0:36:52.469 --> 0:36:56.670 reason is Daniel is praying. He says, wow, the 70 0:36:56.670 --> 0:37:00.950 year captivity is over. Why did Israel go into captivity 0:37:00.950 --> 0:37:05.670 for 70 years? Because 70 times seven years, they missed 0:37:05.670 --> 0:37:08.390 the sabbatical year. Remember that? 0:37:08.430 --> 0:37:10.550 Yes. They were supposed to take a year off. 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.400 From the for the rest of the land. And they 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.680 didn't do it 70 times, so 70 times seven years. 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.480 And then now they're in captivity for 70 years. Daniel 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.000 nine opens, this is the 70 years are up. And 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:23.839 the angel comes and says, I'm not going to talk 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.799 to you about the 70 years. I'm not going to 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.319 talk to you about the 70 times seven of the past. 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.400 I want to talk to you about 70 times seven 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:35.040 years in the future. And so the context argues for it. 0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:39.080 And then, uh, in Daniel chapter ten, this is something 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.920 that a lot of people miss because of English translation. 0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:46.719 It says in verse two, in those days I, Daniel, 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:51.520 was mourning for three full weeks is what my version says. 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.800 It's the very next paragraph after the Daniel nine passage, 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:59.640 about 70 weeks of years. Right? Okay. And it says, 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.000 but in Hebrew it doesn't say what I just read. 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.960 In Hebrew it says I was fasting for for three 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:10.480 weeks of days. And why does he say of days? 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.880 Because he's contrasting it with the previous one, which was 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:19.840 weeks of years because he couldn't possibly fast for three 0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.480 weeks of years. So he wants us not to be confused. 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:27.400 Don't. Don't think I fasted for 21 years. Yeah. Okay. 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.800 That's it. So I understand what she's saying. I think 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:35.280 that if I were translating the Bible, I would say, uh, 77, 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.319 not 70 weeks, because it's just too confusing. Yeah. And 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.200 that's what one version I know does. All right. Anyway, 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:44.160 I hope that helps. We're going to come back with 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:45.719 more of your questions in just a moment. That was 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.680 Tricia McMillan. I'm Michael Melnick. This is open line. Stay 0:38:48.680 --> 0:39:03.960 with us. Welcome back to Open Line. I'm Michael Wright. 0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.000 So glad to be with you today. I do want 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:10.410 to mention a couple of things one, Chosen People Ministries 0:39:10.410 --> 0:39:14.330 has a free gift, uh, for you. 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How can I help 0:40:44.730 --> 0:40:45.250 you today? 0:40:46.330 --> 0:40:48.690 Hey, I heard a question earlier that you answered a 0:40:48.690 --> 0:40:51.770 bit about predestination and election, but I was curious how 0:40:51.770 --> 0:40:55.730 you reconcile the idea of Scripture talking about eternity being 0:40:55.730 --> 0:40:59.930 written on the heart of every man, and predestination and election. 0:41:03.330 --> 0:41:06.380 I'm not exactly sure. How do you think they contradict 0:41:06.420 --> 0:41:07.060 each other? 0:41:08.860 --> 0:41:11.260 No, I don't think they contradict each other. I think 0:41:11.260 --> 0:41:15.380 that if every person I see walking around has eternity 0:41:15.380 --> 0:41:21.020 written on their heart, what about those that are not predetermined, 0:41:21.020 --> 0:41:23.339 that still have that eternity written on their heart? Because 0:41:23.380 --> 0:41:26.060 eternity is only? Well, I guess there's an eternity with 0:41:26.060 --> 0:41:28.739 the Lord and without the Lord. But I don't ever 0:41:28.739 --> 0:41:31.060 think of eternity being without the Lord. I only think 0:41:31.060 --> 0:41:31.899 of it being with the Lord. 0:41:31.900 --> 0:41:34.299 Well, I think when when the Bible says that we 0:41:34.300 --> 0:41:37.780 have eternity in our hearts, I think that, uh, we 0:41:37.780 --> 0:41:40.900 all have a sense that we are not the creator, 0:41:40.900 --> 0:41:44.779 but the creation. And we grow. Some people grow out 0:41:44.780 --> 0:41:47.379 of that and lose it, but it begins as soon 0:41:47.380 --> 0:41:50.580 as we have a sense of who of of self, 0:41:50.620 --> 0:41:54.580 a sense of being. We understand that we are the creation. Uh, 0:41:54.580 --> 0:41:56.859 we look around the world, we we wonder, where did 0:41:56.860 --> 0:41:59.700 this all come from? Uh, there must be a creator. 0:42:00.140 --> 0:42:02.939 I think that's all a reflection of eternity in our hearts. 0:42:02.940 --> 0:42:06.380 But that doesn't mean everyone hangs on to that. Only 0:42:06.380 --> 0:42:09.859 people who respond to that and seek him, then they 0:42:09.860 --> 0:42:13.940 find him. And you say, well, that has to do 0:42:13.940 --> 0:42:18.420 with election. You know, I don't ever try to resolve 0:42:18.460 --> 0:42:24.939 election versus human responsibility. The Bible teaches those two concepts 0:42:24.940 --> 0:42:28.420 right next to each other. I believe in election. Uh, 0:42:28.420 --> 0:42:33.380 I believe that God also has what I call efficacious grace, 0:42:33.380 --> 0:42:38.340 where he draws a person to believe it, says it in, uh, 0:42:38.380 --> 0:42:44.620 acts 16, that God opened Lydia's heart to believe. Um, uh, 0:42:44.739 --> 0:42:48.300 I think that's what God does with us. But turning 0:42:48.300 --> 0:42:51.220 our hearts is that sense that we are the creation 0:42:51.219 --> 0:42:53.339 and that there is a creator. I think everyone has 0:42:53.340 --> 0:42:56.620 that to start with. Some people seek based on that. 0:42:56.620 --> 0:42:58.580 Other people don't. Okay. 0:42:59.420 --> 0:43:01.980 Got you. And that certainly makes kind of clears up 0:43:01.980 --> 0:43:04.509 the idea because in my mind, that idea of eternity 0:43:04.750 --> 0:43:07.990 is like it's sitting there, dormant in everybody, waiting for 0:43:07.989 --> 0:43:10.630 us to become a believer. Oh, but these ones didn't. 0:43:10.670 --> 0:43:12.390 And I and I think the way that I was 0:43:12.390 --> 0:43:14.549 viewing it was a little different than the way that 0:43:14.550 --> 0:43:15.990 your explanation just went. 0:43:16.030 --> 0:43:18.350 Yeah. That's what and that's why people don't. There are 0:43:18.350 --> 0:43:21.390 some people who just don't want, uh, to be believers 0:43:21.390 --> 0:43:24.390 and they, they don't pursue that. So and they kind 0:43:24.430 --> 0:43:27.390 of squelch, squelch the eternity in their heart is what 0:43:27.390 --> 0:43:30.310 they do. So anyway, thanks for your call. Appreciate it. 0:43:30.350 --> 0:43:34.150 We're going to we're going to talk to Sylvester in Tampa, 0:43:34.150 --> 0:43:38.150 Florida listening on. Ken, welcome to Open Line. Sylvester. How 0:43:38.150 --> 0:43:39.150 can I help you today? 0:43:40.070 --> 0:43:44.310 Hi. I just had a quick question. Um, I wanted 0:43:44.310 --> 0:43:47.110 to know what would be your response to the idea 0:43:47.110 --> 0:43:50.710 that Jesus, just because Jesus, when he was he didn't 0:43:50.710 --> 0:43:54.390 write a book or have any writings or didn't had 0:43:54.390 --> 0:43:57.990 any writings that ended up in the Bible. Uh, so 0:43:58.150 --> 0:44:02.310 it devalues what the New Testament Statement of what? The 0:44:02.310 --> 0:44:04.750 whole writers of the Bible. Um. 0:44:07.310 --> 0:44:12.270 Well, I would say if, uh, if we understand what 0:44:12.270 --> 0:44:19.630 the Bible says about inspiration, then Jesus wrote all of it. Yeah. 0:44:19.750 --> 0:44:28.150 Because the Holy Spirit superintended human authors. Um, uh, to, uh, 0:44:29.550 --> 0:44:33.549 to write the scriptures. But, you know, the the Son 0:44:33.550 --> 0:44:36.150 of God or the God the Son was involved in 0:44:36.150 --> 0:44:38.469 that process, as was God the Father. 0:44:38.870 --> 0:44:39.830 Uh, yes. 0:44:40.030 --> 0:44:43.750 Uh, it's sort of like the whole creation. You know that, uh, God, 0:44:43.750 --> 0:44:49.950 the father was the architect. Uh, God, the son was 0:44:49.950 --> 0:44:55.950 the builder. Uh, and then the Holy Spirit was the 0:44:55.989 --> 0:44:58.790 hammer in the hands of the builder, so to speak. 0:44:59.350 --> 0:45:02.880 And so, uh, I would say who? The triune God. 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.320 They were all involved. The three persons of the Godhead 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:10.360 were all involved in creation. Same thing with the scriptures. 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:19.000 And that's why in Philippians three, uh, the, uh, the, the, 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:24.399 the apostle Paul writes that the word of God, not 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.680 the word of God, the word of Christ, the word 0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:30.400 of Messiah, should dwell in you richly. And he's talking 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.799 there about the whole Word of God. And what he 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.440 is saying is all the word of God is the 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:41.680 Word of Jesus, because he is, uh, the divine Son 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:49.360 of God, who has, uh, who is behind the authoritative, inspired, 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:54.120 God breathed word of God. So that's who wrote it. 0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.520 Jesus wrote it. That's what I would say. Does that help? 0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:58.040 Perfect. 0:45:58.280 --> 0:45:59.440 Yes, it sure have. 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:00.359 Thank you. Okay. All right. 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.080 Good bye. Well, I'm so glad. I'm so grateful for 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.799 that call. All your calls, everyone who wrote or called. 0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:11.560 Thanks so much for making Open Line possible. I appreciate 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:14.520 you all so much. And I want to say, especially 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:18.440 thanks to our Open Line team. Uh, I love these people. 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