WEBVTT - Hour 2: Answering Bible Questions

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<v S1>Hello friends. It's time for the second hour of Open

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<v S1>Line with Doctor Michael. Right, gentlemen, it's Moody Radio's Bible

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<v S1>study Across America, and we're talking about your questions about

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<v S1>the Bible, God and the spiritual life. My name is

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<v S1>Michael Melnick. I'm the academic dean at Moody Bible Institute,

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<v S1>also a professor of Jewish studies and Bible right here.

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<v S1>We're live today sitting around the radio kitchen table right

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<v S1>here in Chicago, taking your questions from all across the country.

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<v S1>So give me a call. The phone number is (877) 548-3675.

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<v S1>That's (877) 548-3675. Remember, if you can't call, just go to

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<v S1>our website open Line radio.org. Click on the Ask Michael

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<v S1>a question link and you'll be able to fill out

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<v S1>a form. Put your question there. Trish will put it

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<v S1>in the mailbag. I hope you have your Bibles open,

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<v S1>and you really do need a second cup of coffee

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<v S1>to stay awake. And we're ready to talk about the scriptures.

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<v S1>I wanted to mention something about our trip. Uh, it

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<v S1>was a fantastic trip. I was away for two weeks.

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<v S1>We went to, uh, Athens and Corinth and got on

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<v S1>a ship and went to various islands like Patmos. That

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<v S1>was not so much about the Apostle Paul, but, uh,

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<v S1>revelation and John. And we went to Ephesus. We went

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<v S1>to Pergamum, uh, we went to Philippi. Thessalonica. It was phenomenal. Uh,

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<v S1>seeing those places and seeing the Bible come alive from

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<v S1>the journeys of Paul for the most part. Uh, and then, uh,

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<v S1>afterwards we went on for an extension for most of

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<v S1>the group. About two thirds of the group went on

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<v S1>to Rome, and I think it was in the Jewish

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<v S1>quarter of Rome that I that had a most interesting experience.

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<v S1>I was teaching about the history of the Jewish people

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<v S1>of Rome from ancient times. I had to do it

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<v S1>in about ten minutes. Ancient times, right up until today,

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<v S1>including the Holocaust. And when I was talking about that

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<v S1>at the end, I talked about God's heart for the

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<v S1>Jewish people in Romans 1128 and 29 that though opposed

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<v S1>to the gospel, Jewish people remain chosen and beloved, according

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<v S1>to Paul, and also that God's calling of them and

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<v S1>the gifts he gave the Jewish people, like the gift

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<v S1>of the land, the gift of the covenants, all those

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<v S1>still belong to the Jewish people, because the gifts and

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<v S1>calling of God are irrevocable. And while I was talking

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<v S1>about that, there were many, many Jewish people looking at

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<v S1>the Jewish quarter, a very observant Jewish man and his

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<v S1>wife came and stood right in the midst of my

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<v S1>group and wanted to hear what I was saying afterwards.

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<v S1>He wanted to know, what group is this? And I said, well,

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<v S1>it's a group of people who love Moody Bible Institute

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<v S1>and want to learn about the Bible. And I'm a

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<v S1>professor at Moody Bible Institute. He said Moody Bible Institute

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<v S1>in Chicago. Yeah. And then he said, well, why would

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<v S1>a Christian school care about the Jewish people? And I said,

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<v S1>because we are followers of Jesus, the Jewish Messiah. And

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<v S1>because of that, we care about his promises to the

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<v S1>Jewish people. In fact, I told him about the summit

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<v S1>opposing anti-Semitism, that Moody Bible Institute has a long history,

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<v S1>a legacy of always opposing anti-Semitism, because we love the

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<v S1>king of the Jewish people, and we want to see

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<v S1>his heart for them. And so we're having the summit

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<v S1>opposing anti-Semitism on November 9th right here at Moody Bible Institute.

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<v S1>He was just amazed that and I think it's a

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<v S1>really good testimony to our Jewish friends that this is

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<v S1>really where we stand at Moody Bible Institute. I hope

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<v S1>you'll want to come and learn how to oppose anti-Semitism

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<v S1>as a follower of Jesus. Please join us on November

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<v S1>9th in Tory Gray Auditorium right here at Moody Bible Institute.

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<v S1>We have wonderful speakers. It'll be just a great event.

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<v S1>So check it out. Go to Openline radio.org and click

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<v S1>on the link about the summit opposing anti-Semitism. And then

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<v S1>join us on November 9th. And we're going to go

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<v S1>to the phones right now. Uh, Renee in Pompano Beach, Florida,

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<v S1>listening on w RMB. Welcome to Open Line, Renee. How

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<v S1>can I help you today?

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<v S2>Well thank you. Thank you.

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<v S1>Did I say your name right? I know you're a man,

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<v S1>but is it still Renee?

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<v S2>Yes. It's Renee. Yeah.

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<v S1>Is that. Are you French?

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<v S2>No, no, actually, mom loved the name. The name? Actually,

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<v S2>the etymology of the name is actually born again. Oh, really?

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<v S2>You gotta love that. So, mom.

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<v S1>Well, I've only met men named Renee. If they were

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<v S1>from France or, like, Montreal or places like that. So

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<v S1>that's interesting. One of the quick.

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<v S2>Things, um, the name Renee is actually a masculine name.

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<v S2>If you look it up everywhere else in the world,

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<v S2>it's actually considered a very masculine name, except in America,

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<v S2>where we add an extra E and everybody thinks it's female.

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<v S2>So I see.

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<v S1>There you go. Well, no, I know it's a masculine name, but, uh,

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<v S1>only only French people, French speakers have I have met

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<v S1>that use it as a man's name. But it's okay.

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<v S1>I know you're a man. I just want to make

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<v S1>sure I was saying it right. So that's.

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<v S2>That's okay. That's okay. Um, I so appreciate your time. And, uh,

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<v S2>just taking my call right now. Actually. Been walking with

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<v S2>the Lord, uh, born again Christian for 24 plus years,

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<v S2>give or take. My question is, really, I'm a strong

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<v S2>believer in the pre-tribulation rapture, but I also have a question.

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<v S2>You know, I've been coming across some pretty learned PhD

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<v S2>doctors in, you know, in the faith as well, Doctor

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<v S2>Michael Heizer and so on and so forth that are

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<v S2>talking about a pre wrath, which is right around the

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<v S2>midpoint rapture. And I wanted and they were saying, you

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<v S2>know it's chronological. If you follow Matthew 24 and it's

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<v S2>very plain to see in the pre-trib rapture is not biblical.

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<v S2>I just wanted to get your point on your viewpoint

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<v S2>on that as well, sir.

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<v S1>Sure. Well, uh, first of all, as as someone with

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<v S1>a doctorate, having a doctorate doesn't mean you know everything.

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<v S1>Just so you know. Uh, you know, I am. I am.

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<v S1>The people ask me about my doctorate. I say the doctorates.

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<v S1>The last aspect of Western torture. Keep your hand in

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<v S1>the fire long enough, and they'll they'll give you a doctorate.

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<v S1>I had a professor that used to say, anyone can

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<v S1>get a doctorate if you can endure the boredom. And

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<v S1>so I agree with that. And so I'm not, you know,

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<v S1>I guess maybe because I live among PhDs here, uh,

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<v S1>that that's not always the sign of being. Right. Just

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<v S1>so you know, even for me, I'm saying the same

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<v S1>thing about me. You know, there are people. Let me

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<v S1>let me tell you, there are a lot of people

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<v S1>who disagree with things I say on this. And they

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<v S1>they let me know very plainly, so that's fine. Uh,

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<v S1>I still believe in the pre-trib rapture. Having read Matthew

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<v S1>24 many times, uh, the people who read it chronologically

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<v S1>that hold to the pre-trib rapture when they read the

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<v S1>verses in verse 42. Uh, I'm sorry, verse 40 through 42.

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<v S1>Two men will be in the field, one will be

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<v S1>taken and one left. Two women will be grinding at

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<v S1>the mill, one will be taken and one left. Many

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<v S1>pre-trib rapturists do not take that as the rapture. They

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<v S1>take that as referring to being taken away to judgment.

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<v S1>So that's a possibility. But I don't think that's the answer.

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<v S1>I believe when you look at the question. Verse three,

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<v S1>he was sitting on the Mount of Olives. The disciples

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<v S1>approached him privately and said, tell us, when will these

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<v S1>things happen? My first question is when. Let's call it

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<v S1>question A, when, then. Question B and what is the

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<v S1>sign of your coming and the end of the age?

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<v S1>Question B is signs. Question A is when. Question A

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<v S1>when will these things happen? Question B what are the signs.

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<v S1>Okay so right. So a b when you look at

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<v S1>the answer the Lord Jesus gives. Right. He doesn't answer

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<v S1>the first question. He doesn't answer when he answers. What

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<v S1>are the signs? He starts talking about signs, signs, signs.

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<v S1>All these things are events at the beginning of birth pangs.

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<v S1>And he's talking about signs, signs, signs when you see

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<v S1>the abomination that causes desolation signs. These are all signs

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<v S1>of the Second Coming at the end of the tribulation.

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<v S1>What are the signs that you see before the Lord

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<v S1>Jesus returns in judgment. Then the sign, verse 30 of

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<v S1>the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and

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<v S1>then all people of the earth. My version says, but

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<v S1>literally in Greek it's the tribes of the land will mourn.

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<v S1>That's a reference to Zechariah 1210. And they will see

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<v S1>the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven

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<v S1>with power and great glory. So there is again, it's

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<v S1>taking you all through the signs. When Israel, finally, at

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<v S1>the culmination of the tribulation period, believes the Lord Jesus returns,

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<v S1>the Son of Man returns and establishes his throne. That

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<v S1>continues all this discussion of signs through verse 35. Question

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<v S1>B so there's question A, question B, answer B is

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<v S1>called chiasm is what this is. Question A, question b,

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<v S1>answer B, answer A picks up in verse 36. Now

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<v S1>concerning that day and hour, no one knows neither the

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<v S1>angels in heaven nor the son except the father only.

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<v S1>And then it talks about how the days will be

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<v S1>going on, just like in the days of Noah, and

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<v S1>no one thinks anything's going to happen. And then boom,

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<v S1>the rapture will hit. Two men will be in the field,

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<v S1>one will be taken, one left. Two women will be

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<v S1>grinding at the mill, one will be taken and one left. Therefore,

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<v S1>be alert. Since you don't know what day your Lord

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<v S1>is coming, it is imminent. It could happen at any

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<v S1>moment for us. And you have to be ready. Because

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<v S1>the Son of Man is coming at an hour you

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<v S1>do not expect. That's the rapture that can happen any time.

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<v S1>So I would see this as a chiastic structure. That's

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<v S1>what it's called. Uh, a b b a. And if

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<v S1>we read it that way, then it's, it's clearly a

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<v S1>pre-trib rapture about when we don't know when it can

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<v S1>happen at any moment. If it's pre-wrath, then we can

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<v S1>look at it. Usually people look at it near the

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<v S1>end of the seven years, not in the middle. And okay,

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<v S1>we can say, okay, we know when it's going to happen,

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<v S1>but this way the pre-trib rapture makes the most sense.

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<v S1>Does that help?

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<v S2>Oh, it absolutely does. And the other thing that I

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<v S2>so appreciate about, appreciate about you and your ministry is

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<v S2>the messianic viewpoint of it all to where the whole

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<v S2>picture of it really, I think the Western culture, America,

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<v S2>you know, we miss out so much on the Hebrew culture,

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<v S2>which is what I like to teach also when it

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<v S2>comes to the rapture. Um, how it just ties into

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<v S2>it so perfectly. Um, you know how the the bridegroom

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<v S2>goes to prepare a place and he comes back at

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<v S2>any given moment, and we're not aware of the time,

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<v S2>and the bride is to be.

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<v S1>Don't you think that's interesting? Not just Matthew 24, but

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<v S1>Matthew 25. The the virgins. You have to be ready.

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<v S1>It kind of fits with the last part. Exactly. So anyway,

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<v S1>thank thank you so much for your call, Renee. We're

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<v S1>going to take a break here. And when we come back,

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<v S1>we're going to take more of your questions. The phone

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<v S1>number (877) 548-3675. Five. My name is Michael Redlich. This program

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<v S1>is called Open Line. I'm so glad to be back

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<v S1>with you after traveling for a couple of weeks. It's

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<v S1>it's just a joy to be with here, with you,

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<v S1>talking about your questions, having this Bible study across America.

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<v S1>Stay with us. More to come right here on Open Line.

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<v S1>Welcome back to Open Line. So glad to be with you.

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<v S1>My name is Michael Ray Dolnick, and it's always great

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<v S1>to be with you. Studying the scriptures on a weekly

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<v S1>basis right here every Saturday morning. It's our Saturday morning

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<v S1>Bible study. Uh, all across America. You know, people would

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<v S1>always the people who listen to Open Line are really

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<v S1>a distinctive group of listeners, very, very different because Moody

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<v S1>Radio listeners all love the Bible, but the Open Line listeners,

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<v S1>they want resources that will really help them understand the

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<v S1>Bible in a deeper way. And that's because the Bible

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<v S1>Welcome to Open Line. Pamela. How can I help you?

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<v S3>Yes, yes. Good morning. Good morning Luke chapter five. Verse 14.

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<v S1>Okay. Well. And what's your question?

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<v S3>And I'm trying I'm trying to understand what was the

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<v S3>sacrifice that Moses commanded for your claim for the. Oh,

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<v S3>I see.

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<v S1>Uh, I see. Uh, it says, reaching out his hand,

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<v S1>verse 13, he touched him, saying, I am willing. Be

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<v S1>made clean. Immediately the disease that skin disease left him.

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<v S1>But he ordered him to tell no one. But go

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<v S1>and show yourself to the priest, and offer what Moses

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<v S1>prescribed for your cleansing as a testimony to them. That's

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<v S1>in the book of Leviticus. There were sacrifices when people

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<v S1>were cured of a skin disease. Then they had to

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<v S1>go offer sacrifice. The priests functioned as sort of a

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<v S1>health examiner and, uh, and to see that they were, uh, cleansed. Uh,

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<v S1>I think that's that's what he's referring to. It's in.

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<v S1>I think it's Leviticus 14 that you have the commands.

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<v S1>It begins with skin diseases in chapter 13. And then, uh,

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<v S1>chapter 14 has the sacrifices that someone is to offer

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<v S1>when they get cleansed of the skin disease. Uh, yeah,

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<v S1>that's what it is. Leviticus 13 and 14 is where

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<v S1>you would read about that. By the way, Leviticus 1340

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<v S1>has my life verse in it. If you want to

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<v S1>know Leviticus 1340, are you ready to hear it, Pamela?

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<v S3>Yes, absolutely.

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<v S1>Here it is. This is my verse. If a man

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<v S1>loses the hair of his head, he is bald, but

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<v S1>he is clean. And that's, uh, my explanation for, uh.

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<v S1>I may be bald, but I am clean. There we go. Yeah.

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<v S1>That's good. Okay. It's not a skin disease. It's just

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<v S1>male pattern baldness. That's it. Anyway, thank you for your call, Pamela.

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<v S1>We'll talk soon. Uh, Sheldon in Chicago, Illinois, listening on Wmbi.

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<v S1>Welcome to Open Line. How can I help you?

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<v S4>Hello, doctor and family. My Christian family. Um, I'm reading

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<v S4>Amos chapter six. I read through it this morning, but

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<v S4>I'm stumped on verse ten where it says your uncle's

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<v S4>will when it talks about the the ten men that

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<v S4>will die in the house. Just because you have ten

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<v S4>men doesn't mean you're safe. But, uh, God is cursing, uh, Israel.

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<v S1>It's a judgment right there.

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<v S4>Yeah, it's a judgment. He says, don't speak. He says, hush,

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<v S4>don't speak to the other guy in the house unless

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<v S4>the Lord curses or something to that effect. I don't

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<v S4>understand that. That verse.

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<v S1>Let me just tell you, this is why the Moody

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<v S1>Bible Commentary is such a helpful resource. I'll read you

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<v S1>the words of John Jelinek. He is now with the Lord.

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<v S1>He was the academic dean of the Moody Theological Seminary. Uh,

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<v S1>wonderful Old Testament scholar. Uh, and, uh, I had tremendous

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<v S1>regard for him. He wrote our commentary on Amos. This

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<v S1>is what he says. God's judgment would be such that

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<v S1>if ten men took refuge in one house, they could

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<v S1>not preserve their lives. Survivors, understanding that judgment proceeded from God,

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<v S1>would not allow the Lord's name to be invoked or

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<v S1>to be mentioned, lest that act draw God's attention and

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<v S1>result in their deaths as well. God would command the

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<v S1>utter destruction of all houses in Samaria, both great and small,

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<v S1>and the houses of the rich and poor would perish

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<v S1>with them. So that's it. They don't invoke the name

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<v S1>of God because they didn't want to attract God's attention

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<v S1>and bring further judgment upon them. So, uh, I, I

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<v S1>hope that helps and encourage you to check out the

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<v S1>Moody Bible Commentary. Uh, when you have a verse you

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<v S1>don't understand, it's really very helpful. One of the things

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<v S1>that we wanted to do when we did that commentary

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<v S1>is explain the verses that people don't understand and tell

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<v S1>us what they mean. So anyway, thanks for your call, Sheldon.

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<v S1>And we're going to talk to Bob in Chicago, Illinois,

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<v S1>listening on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line, Bob. What can

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<v S1>I do for you today?

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<v S5>God's blessings. Michael. Thank you. Where in the Bible can

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<v S5>we find God's concept of free will? And what is

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<v S5>its significance to us as believers?

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<v S1>Well. I'm not sure. What are you talking about? I'm

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<v S1>trying to. What are you getting at? Just free will

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<v S1>in general.

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<v S5>What? Yes. We discuss. I can't find it in the commentary.

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<v S5>Anything about free will. And it's something that's discussed within

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<v S5>the faith, with some significance that that. Well, okay, here's

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<v S5>here's here's the conclusion. I've always heard God did or

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<v S5>does not force his creations to love him or to

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<v S5>follow his edicts. He doesn't force us.

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<v S6>Know.

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<v S5>We come to that under under free will. Okay. Making up. Okay.

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<v S6>Let me just say.

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<v S1>There are extremes. There's the very strong Calvinist that says

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<v S1>everything is God's sovereign plan. And and we are almost,

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<v S1>almost passive. I do believe in God's choice. I believe

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<v S1>in predestination, uh, that God foreknew us all. That, on

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<v S1>the other hand, the Bible says that people are responsible

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<v S1>to believe and and as a result, uh, of of

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<v S1>this every time the Bible tells people to believe. Like

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<v S1>Paul talking to the the Philippian jailer in acts 16,

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<v S1>believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. That is saying that

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<v S1>people have a responsibility to believe. Uh, it's human responsibility.

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<v S1>They're both true. They are both true. And since they

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<v S1>are both true, I have to believe that this difficulty of, uh,

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<v S1>what people call free will, I call human responsibility. And

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<v S1>then divine sovereignty, they somehow make sense in the mind

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<v S1>of God. But I certainly don't. I couldn't give you

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<v S1>an explanation. I think that as high as the heavens

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<v S1>are above the earth, so much so, as in that

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<v S1>same way are my thoughts higher than your thoughts, and

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<v S1>my ways higher than your ways? That's what God says

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<v S1>in Isaiah 55, And one of the more interesting things

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<v S1>I see is when it talks about human responsibility. It

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<v S1>seems like there's always divine sovereignty linked to it. So

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<v S1>for example, in Philippians two it says, work out your

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<v S1>own salvation with fear and trembling. That sounds like it's

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<v S1>a free will issue, right? But then it says, for

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<v S1>it is God who is working in you, enabling you

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<v S1>both to desire and to work out his good purpose.

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<v S1>So divine sovereignty and human responsibility also, uh, in acts 427,

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<v S1>a passage about human responsibility for the death of Jesus,

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<v S1>it says in verse 27, in fact, in this city,

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<v S1>both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the

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<v S1>people of Israel, there was this whole big conspiracy of

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<v S1>Jews and Gentiles conspiring against Jesus, assembled together against your

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<v S1>holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed. So it sounds like

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<v S1>there's fully human responsibility for these actions. And then it

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<v S1>says to do whatever your hand and your plan had

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<v S1>predestined to take place. Divine sovereignty. What's my point? The

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<v S1>Bible teaches both, usually in verses right next to each other. Uh,

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<v S1>that's just how it is. I don't I can't say

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<v S1>that I understand this. Uh, I think that this is

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<v S1>an apparent contradiction. An antinomy is what J.I. Packer calls it, uh,

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<v S1>an apparent contradiction, but it's not. It's fully resolved in

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<v S1>the mind of God. And I just trust God that,

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<v S1>you know, when when he tells me to do something,

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<v S1>I'm responsible to respond to it. At the same time,

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<v S1>I know that God is the one at work to

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<v S1>to accomplish what he wants me to do. Uh, Bob,

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<v S1>is that helpful?

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<v S5>It is somewhat. Yes, it is helpful. Mike. Michael. Uh,

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<v S5>but again, when we're, uh, when we're, uh, the Lord

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<v S5>is leading us. Of course. Always. But sometimes, you know,

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<v S5>it's the old. It's the, uh, Proverbs three five and

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<v S5>six that don't believe in men, but believe in God

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<v S5>and follow him.

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<v S6>Mhm.

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<v S5>But we have that confusion as we go.

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<v S6>Through the process.

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<v S1>It's not a confusion as long as we trust that

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<v S1>it makes sense in the mind of God that there's

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<v S1>God's sovereignty and human responsibility. They're both true and that's

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<v S1>what we have to live with. Anyway I hope I

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<v S1>hope that helps a little bit. Bob, thanks for your call.

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<v S1>We're going to talk to Kevin in Indianapolis, Indiana, listening

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<v S1>on WGN. R welcome to Open Line. Kevin, how can

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<v S1>I help you?

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<v S7>Well thank you. And am I coming through at that end?

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<v S6>Just go.

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<v S7>Ahead. You're at the end that matters here. The, uh,

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<v S7>my question is, and actually, you laid the foundation for

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<v S7>it with the previous question, uh, in Galatians. He, Paul,

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<v S7>is actually famous in calling out the the Jewish believers

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<v S7>who brought along, of course, circumcision, but other maybe not

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<v S7>the only one little side checkpoints that were evidence that

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<v S7>you are really?

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<v S6>Yeah.

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<v S1>What's your question, Kevin? We're running out of time here.

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<v S7>Okay. Yeah. My question is, how does one, uh, become

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<v S7>all things to all people as God, as Paul says

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<v S7>that you might win a few and not have certain

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<v S7>standards for. Okay, this is what the Christian life embodies.

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<v S7>I feel like your question, your answer in the previous question,

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<v S7>if you're trying to save time, that really answers it. Yeah. Well.

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<v S1>Well, let me let me just say that the legalists

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<v S1>in Galatia were some Jews and maybe even some Gentiles who, uh,

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<v S1>Us accepted their idea of circumcision, but Paul actually had

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<v S1>Timothy circumcised. After the Jerusalem Council. So circumcision for Jewish

0:25:34.330 --> 0:25:37.810
<v S1>believers was perfectly okay. The problem was trying to force

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<v S1>Gentiles to be circumcised, so they had to become Jewish

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<v S1>before they believed in Jesus. Uh, anyway, we'll talk more

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<v S1>about this later. Kevin, thanks for your call. We'll be

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<v S1>right back here on Open Line with the Febc mailbag.

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<v S1>Joining me. Yes. Uh, so I bet you know what

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<v S1>I know I said I wished you had been there,

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<v S1>I really did. Even I both wished you had been in, in, uh,

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<v S9>We just landed in Istanbul. No, we didn't even go.

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<v S1>We bypassed it. Oh, we were on a ship, and

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<v S1>we went, uh, our last stop was Pergamum on the ship.

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<v S1>And then we went from there to Philippi, actually more

0:27:27.210 --> 0:27:30.720
<v S1>modern cities, but off, off the coast there. So.

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<v S9>So if I look in the Bible, in the little

0:27:33.420 --> 0:27:36.659
<v S9>maps in the back and I find these cities, then

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<v S9>I can see where you went. Yes. For those Bibles

0:27:39.180 --> 0:27:41.850
<v S9>that have. Well, look here, the missionary journeys of Paul.

0:27:41.850 --> 0:27:44.880
<v S9>If I follow that, that's kind of what you did. Yep. Okay.

0:27:45.330 --> 0:27:50.280
<v S1>So but we went, uh, from Athens. We started Paul

0:27:50.700 --> 0:27:53.100
<v S1>went to Athens near the end of his journeys. But

0:27:53.100 --> 0:27:56.730
<v S1>we started in Athens and saw Athens and Corinth, and

0:27:56.730 --> 0:27:59.370
<v S1>we saw of the journeys of Paul. We saw Philippi

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<v S1>and Thessaloniki and Thessalonica in biblical parlance, modern Thessaloniki, we

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<v S1>saw Ephesus. It was really remarkable. It was great.

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<v S9>So, so is the Greek that, you know, any kind

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<v S9>of help or is that a different kind of Greek

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<v S9>than they speak and use on signs?

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:18.899
<v S1>Utterly different.

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<v S9>Okay.

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<v S1>I couldn't understand a word the guides were saying when

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:26.730
<v S1>they talked to each other in Greek or whatever. But

0:28:26.730 --> 0:28:29.520
<v S1>I could read signs because I know how to read

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:33.810
<v S1>Greek and and I could understand some of the signs,

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.810
<v S1>except if they used modern words. But, you know, some

0:28:36.810 --> 0:28:39.030
<v S1>of the words are the same. And so I had

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<v S1>a good time reading Greek. So yeah.

0:28:41.700 --> 0:28:44.760
<v S9>Dusting that off. No, I've seen you translate stuff on

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.340
<v S9>the air here. So I know that you are actively

0:28:47.340 --> 0:28:49.980
<v S9>using your Greek. Yeah. But it's, it's.

0:28:49.980 --> 0:28:52.860
<v S1>Just like modern Hebrew is very different from Biblical Hebrew. Yes.

0:28:52.860 --> 0:28:55.650
<v S1>So modern Greek is very different from Biblical.

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<v S9>Greek, but there's some crossover with the letters and in

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<v S9>the reading. Okay. Very cool. If people are interested and

0:29:01.140 --> 0:29:04.350
<v S9>they want to see some photos from that. Um, our Facebook,

0:29:04.380 --> 0:29:08.700
<v S9>our open line Facebook page has um, each day there's

0:29:08.790 --> 0:29:11.880
<v S9>days anywhere from like, I don't know, 40 to 60

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<v S9>pictures posted each day from the trip. If you want

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<v S9>to see the beautiful, you had some beautiful weather. Yeah

0:29:18.150 --> 0:29:19.680
<v S9>we did. If you want to see any of those

0:29:19.690 --> 0:29:21.670
<v S9>pictures of the ruins and the different places.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.310
<v S1>Although we were on a tall ship for six days.

0:29:24.340 --> 0:29:25.000
<v S9>Okay.

0:29:25.030 --> 0:29:30.100
<v S1>And it was a sail ship, you know. And 90%

0:29:30.100 --> 0:29:33.400
<v S1>of the time it didn't use engines, it just used sails.

0:29:33.430 --> 0:29:37.450
<v S1>And it got real windy. A couple of days. And

0:29:37.750 --> 0:29:40.030
<v S1>the last night on the ship, I felt like we

0:29:40.030 --> 0:29:44.290
<v S1>were sailing on an angle. Mhm. Because of the wind

0:29:44.380 --> 0:29:47.890
<v S1>being so strong. Mhm. And unfortunately a couple of people

0:29:47.890 --> 0:29:48.970
<v S1>didn't like that.

0:29:48.970 --> 0:29:52.810
<v S9>No I'm sure that there were some stomachs that didn't

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<v S9>like it.

0:29:53.020 --> 0:29:56.200
<v S1>There were 3 or 4 out of 160. But a

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<v S1>lot of us just sat on the deck looking at

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.690
<v S1>the stars and the sky and the moon, and it was,

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.450
<v S1>it was. I stayed up late. So what was the.

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<v S9>What was one place that that like like we've talked

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<v S9>about how when people travel to Israel, the Bible comes

0:30:11.170 --> 0:30:15.520
<v S9>alive in in certain aspects. Was there one place that

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.430
<v S9>you saw that made. Um, the Bible. Some of the

0:30:19.430 --> 0:30:22.070
<v S9>New Testament stuff come alive in a different way.

0:30:22.100 --> 0:30:26.000
<v S1>Um, you know, uh, I stood at the Bema Seat

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<v S1>in Corinth. This is an actual weight.

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<v S9>We talk about it in, like this. Yeah. Future thing.

0:30:32.870 --> 0:30:33.470
<v S9>A Bema seat.

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<v S1>Is a judgment seat.

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.820
<v S9>Okay, so they existed before that Paul was talking about. Okay.

0:30:37.850 --> 0:30:43.700
<v S1>And it's for a first century judgment seat. Okay. And Paul,

0:30:43.940 --> 0:30:47.720
<v S1>that was in Corinth. Okay. And Paul uses that as

0:30:47.750 --> 0:30:50.360
<v S1>sort of a, you know, the we'll all stand at

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.780
<v S1>the judgment seat of, of Messiah one day. Second Corinthians

0:30:53.780 --> 0:30:58.010
<v S1>five nine. Right. 510 somewhere around there. But anyway, that's

0:30:58.010 --> 0:30:59.959
<v S1>what Paul says, that we're going to stand at the

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<v S1>judgment seat, and he's using the judgment seat of the

0:31:05.210 --> 0:31:07.340
<v S1>he's writing to the Corinthians. They all know the judgment

0:31:07.340 --> 0:31:09.800
<v S1>seat right there in Corinth. And he says, yeah, but

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.200
<v S1>there's even a bigger judgment seat. And so it's sort

0:31:12.230 --> 0:31:15.200
<v S1>of like using what they know to tell about something

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.120
<v S1>else that's coming in first Corinthians three he talks about

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:22.740
<v S1>the judgment that will take place there of our works, whether, uh,

0:31:23.100 --> 0:31:25.230
<v S1>not the judgment seat in Corinth, but there will be

0:31:25.230 --> 0:31:29.250
<v S1>a judgment seat. And our works, whether wood, hay or

0:31:29.250 --> 0:31:33.209
<v S1>straw or gold, silver and precious gems, they'll be tested

0:31:33.210 --> 0:31:37.560
<v S1>by fire. And so I had the great privilege of

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.370
<v S1>teaching at the judgment seat there in Corinth. And so,

0:31:41.370 --> 0:31:45.660
<v S1>so how Paul used that to teach the Corinthians about

0:31:45.660 --> 0:31:48.450
<v S1>the future judgment seat. That was kind of a cool thing.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.920
<v S1>There are some other places, like, uh, in Ephesus where,

0:31:53.070 --> 0:31:55.350
<v S1>you know, you learn all about Artemis. Great is Artemis

0:31:55.530 --> 0:32:01.350
<v S1>of the Ephesians. And, uh, there are proconsuls in place. And,

0:32:01.380 --> 0:32:03.840
<v S1>you know, when when they say, look, they haven't made

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.680
<v S1>any trouble. If you have a complaint, take tells Demetrius

0:32:07.710 --> 0:32:13.230
<v S1>take them there. Proconsuls. Well, there's always one proconsul, not two.

0:32:13.260 --> 0:32:17.400
<v S1>And yet he uses a plural, Except I was reading

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.850
<v S1>history and archaeology. I found out that there had been

0:32:20.850 --> 0:32:27.270
<v S1>a coup against the proconsul, the governor, and was replaced

0:32:27.270 --> 0:32:30.090
<v S1>by the two people who had schemed against him as

0:32:30.090 --> 0:32:32.910
<v S1>interim proconsuls. There were two at the time when Paul

0:32:32.910 --> 0:32:35.520
<v S1>was there, and so that was kind of cool to

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<v S1>see in acts 19. It uses the plural because there

0:32:38.550 --> 0:32:42.150
<v S1>really were two. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, that was I

0:32:42.150 --> 0:32:42.870
<v S1>had a fun time.

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<v S9>Yeah, it sounds like it. Yeah. Very cool. Well, thank

0:32:45.780 --> 0:32:48.570
<v S9>you for sharing. Just a glimpse of that trip. We

0:32:48.570 --> 0:32:49.950
<v S9>missed you. We're glad you're back.

0:32:49.980 --> 0:32:52.200
<v S1>Yeah, and now people say they want to go again.

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:53.910
<v S1>But I'm too tired to even think about it.

0:32:54.060 --> 0:32:55.979
<v S9>Don't. Don't ask you right now. Yeah.

0:32:56.010 --> 0:32:57.690
<v S1>All these people are saying, I want to go. I

0:32:57.690 --> 0:33:00.510
<v S1>want to go. No I can't. I got back Wednesday

0:33:00.510 --> 0:33:02.400
<v S1>and Thursday. I was back in class and back in

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.320
<v S1>the office and back in meetings. So there's a little bit.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.140
<v S9>Of jet lag right now. You're probably feeling all right. Well,

0:33:07.140 --> 0:33:08.040
<v S9>I evening.

0:33:08.070 --> 0:33:10.140
<v S1>I'm on my fourth cup of coffee of the day,

0:33:10.140 --> 0:33:14.320
<v S1>so I'm okay. When the coffee stops, I'll. I'll stop.

0:33:14.950 --> 0:33:18.880
<v S9>Okay. Oh, well, I will ask. We'll try and fit

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.520
<v S9>in a couple mailbag questions, but thank you for sharing.

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.040
<v S9>Just a glimpse. I know listeners were very excited to hear,

0:33:24.070 --> 0:33:27.310
<v S9>you know, highlights and hear, hear what you saw. It

0:33:27.310 --> 0:33:30.340
<v S9>was great on the trip. Good. We'll welcome back. Kathleen

0:33:30.340 --> 0:33:33.430
<v S9>in Ohio listens to Wtxf and wants to know what

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<v S9>does Matthew 633 mean when it says to first seek

0:33:37.690 --> 0:33:40.660
<v S9>the kingdom of God? What does that actually? Well, the kingdom.

0:33:40.660 --> 0:33:46.090
<v S1>Of God is God's rulership. So, you know, we talk

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.330
<v S1>about the messianic kingdom because and that's the kingdom of God,

0:33:49.330 --> 0:33:52.240
<v S1>because one day when Jesus reigns, the rulership of God

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:55.930
<v S1>will be over all the earth. But the kingdom of

0:33:55.930 --> 0:33:59.950
<v S1>God is for us. It's begun already because Jesus is

0:33:59.950 --> 0:34:04.600
<v S1>our King and he's our ruler. So when he says,

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:09.520
<v S1>seek first God's kingdom and his righteousness, what we're doing

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:14.149
<v S1>is we're seeking God's kingdom over our lives, his rulership

0:34:14.150 --> 0:34:19.819
<v S1>over our lives and his righteousness, his obedience to him,

0:34:19.820 --> 0:34:23.810
<v S1>and righteous behavior for him in our lives. That's what

0:34:23.810 --> 0:34:25.910
<v S1>he wants of us. So really what it's saying is

0:34:25.910 --> 0:34:30.230
<v S1>in every situation we're in, what's our number one priority?

0:34:30.230 --> 0:34:33.770
<v S1>What does God want of me? Here he is, my king.

0:34:33.770 --> 0:34:37.040
<v S1>He is my ruler. When I sign off my letters,

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.350
<v S1>I copy Eva, who started doing this a number of

0:34:39.350 --> 0:34:42.320
<v S1>years ago. So it was her idea and I said,

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.140
<v S1>I'll steal that. I sign my letters. All for the king.

0:34:45.170 --> 0:34:48.350
<v S1>Do I mean it? Do I will I do everything

0:34:48.350 --> 0:34:51.620
<v S1>that he wants? That's a great reminder for us. That's

0:34:51.620 --> 0:34:55.759
<v S1>what it means to seek his kingdom and his righteousness.

0:34:56.390 --> 0:34:58.790
<v S1>Do I want his rulership in my life? What does

0:34:58.790 --> 0:35:02.300
<v S1>he want of me now? Right now? Today?

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<v S9>So then, when living our lives that would come to

0:35:06.650 --> 0:35:10.010
<v S9>play in the decisions that we're making, like if we're

0:35:10.010 --> 0:35:14.850
<v S9>choosing to take a job or leave a job or, um,

0:35:15.450 --> 0:35:19.080
<v S9>marry someone or these kinds of things, you know, change

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:24.870
<v S9>churches where we're we're seeking his rulership. Rulership.

0:35:24.900 --> 0:35:27.899
<v S1>I'll just give you a great example. Uh, a student

0:35:27.900 --> 0:35:30.930
<v S1>once came to Eva for advice, and she said that

0:35:30.930 --> 0:35:33.000
<v S1>she had been offered. She was a comm student here

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.090
<v S1>at Moody. You know, there are only 18, 19 years old,

0:35:36.090 --> 0:35:38.399
<v S1>so don't get too hard on her for what she says.

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:42.060
<v S1>But she was offered an internship to go work on

0:35:42.060 --> 0:35:46.350
<v S1>an actual film and, you know, doing. And she wanted

0:35:46.350 --> 0:35:48.569
<v S1>to know if it was. How can I know if

0:35:48.570 --> 0:35:51.480
<v S1>it's God's will for me to do it? And he said, well,

0:35:51.480 --> 0:36:00.090
<v S1>tell me about the film. And the film was really bad. Uh,

0:36:00.090 --> 0:36:02.100
<v S1>virtually pornographic. Okay.

0:36:02.370 --> 0:36:04.920
<v S9>So it was not a God honoring film. Yeah. Okay.

0:36:04.950 --> 0:36:07.020
<v S1>And Eva said, how is that going to help on

0:36:07.050 --> 0:36:11.540
<v S1>that film? Seeking God's kingdom and his righteousness. And she said, well,

0:36:11.540 --> 0:36:14.150
<v S1>I could learn how to make films. And she said,

0:36:14.150 --> 0:36:18.170
<v S1>that will honor God. And Eva said, find a different film. Okay.

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:24.109
<v S1>And to me, when we make decisions like that, that's.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.140
<v S1>And the girl did. And everything worked out. Yeah. It

0:36:27.140 --> 0:36:32.839
<v S1>was good. But the point of it is, uh, that

0:36:33.620 --> 0:36:37.370
<v S1>when we seek God's kingdom and his righteousness, it should

0:36:37.370 --> 0:36:38.960
<v S1>affect every decision we make.

0:36:38.989 --> 0:36:42.290
<v S9>It should be a filter that's kind of that's overlaying

0:36:42.290 --> 0:36:43.820
<v S9>everything as we look at it.

0:36:43.850 --> 0:36:44.150
<v S1>Yeah.

0:36:44.180 --> 0:36:47.420
<v S9>Exactly that. That. And if you do that enough, if

0:36:47.420 --> 0:36:52.310
<v S9>you think about that intentionally enough, it should become second nature. Yeah. Um,

0:36:52.340 --> 0:36:56.390
<v S9>to to decide or to see that, like, God would

0:36:56.390 --> 0:36:58.640
<v S9>be honored if I do this. Yeah. Or at least

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.950
<v S9>it's not dishonoring God if I do this.

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<v S1>What I would like of those who know me well,

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.259
<v S1>and I don't know if this would ever happen, but

0:37:06.260 --> 0:37:08.360
<v S1>I would like people to say, you know what Michael

0:37:08.380 --> 0:37:11.410
<v S1>always wanted to do God's will whenever he made. He

0:37:11.410 --> 0:37:14.860
<v S1>didn't always, but he intended. His intention was always to

0:37:14.890 --> 0:37:17.410
<v S1>do the will of God. That's. And that's what I

0:37:17.410 --> 0:37:20.589
<v S1>want my intention to be. I would hope that each

0:37:20.590 --> 0:37:22.420
<v S1>of us would want that to be the legacy that

0:37:22.420 --> 0:37:26.710
<v S1>we leave, because we're seeking his kingdom first. So, okay.

0:37:26.739 --> 0:37:29.350
<v S1>That's it. Thank you. Is there a quick question I

0:37:29.350 --> 0:37:31.120
<v S1>can answer so I get at least two in here?

0:37:31.150 --> 0:37:38.140
<v S9>Um, sure. Cameron in Illinois listens to WNBA. Um. Number nine. Yeah. Um,

0:37:38.170 --> 0:37:41.350
<v S9>as I was reading through judges 21, I noticed that

0:37:41.350 --> 0:37:43.810
<v S9>it made mention that the Israelites went up against Jabesh

0:37:43.810 --> 0:37:46.960
<v S9>Gilead as they had not fought against the Benjamites and

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.560
<v S9>killed everyone who was not a virgin. My question is,

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.489
<v S9>how would they have known who the virgins were in

0:37:54.489 --> 0:37:58.000
<v S9>the city? I assume that they wouldn't have asked, but

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.489
<v S9>when looking through commentaries, couldn't find the answer.

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<v S1>You know, I don't know. I don't I don't think

0:38:05.890 --> 0:38:08.690
<v S1>any of us could know. Uh, Maybe they were looking

0:38:08.690 --> 0:38:15.259
<v S1>particularly at, uh, those who are married or those who were, uh.

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:18.950
<v S9>Young women who would have, you.

0:38:18.950 --> 0:38:21.530
<v S1>Know, young women who were not married would have either

0:38:21.530 --> 0:38:24.350
<v S1>been single or immoral. They would have known who the

0:38:24.350 --> 0:38:26.300
<v S1>immoral women were. They would have known who the married

0:38:26.300 --> 0:38:28.489
<v S1>women are. And I guess that's that's what I think

0:38:28.489 --> 0:38:31.070
<v S1>the answer would be. Okay. I don't think they had

0:38:31.070 --> 0:38:34.549
<v S1>scarlet letters on them. Right. That's that's what I would say.

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<v S9>Okay. All right. Thank you. There are some questions like

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.459
<v S9>that that we we wonder. And at the same time,

0:38:40.489 --> 0:38:43.670
<v S9>I mean, God can make that known to. Yeah. In

0:38:43.670 --> 0:38:44.450
<v S9>a way, I don't think it had to.

0:38:44.450 --> 0:38:46.670
<v S1>Be known supernaturally. I think they would have they would

0:38:46.700 --> 0:38:50.660
<v S1>have been there and known. Okay. Yeah. Married women were

0:38:50.660 --> 0:38:56.060
<v S1>not virgins. Uh, and then the immoral women were not virgins.

0:38:56.060 --> 0:39:01.879
<v S1>And likely, maybe even single women would have been known

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:03.650
<v S1>for that, but I don't know. Okay.

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.450
<v S9>So. All right. Okay. Thank you.

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<v S1>Thanks for those questions, Tricia. And, uh, when we come back,

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<v S1>we'll take more of your calls in just a moment,

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<v S1>so stay with us. That was the Febc mailbag. You

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<v S1>can always write your question by going to Moody's on

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<v S1>Open Line radio.org. Go to our website and click on

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<v S1>the link that says Ask Michael a question. And Trish

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<v S1>right back so don't go away. This is Michael Ray

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<v S1>Dolnick and Tricia McMillan on Open Line. Friday. Welcome back

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<v S1>to Open Line. I'm Michael Ray Dolnick and I've been

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<v S1>having a great time in our Bible study across America.

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<v S1>I do want to mention several things. Uh, I had

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<v S1>a great time as we traveled journeys of Paul got

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<v S1>to meet a lot of kitchen table partners. So grateful

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<v S1>mention is the Chosen People booklet. It's about the fall

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<v S1>feasts of Israel. Uh, it's uh, it's called Celebrate Israel's

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<v S1>High Holidays. Uh, it really will explain the Feast of

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<v S1>Trumpets or the Jewish New Year, the Day of Atonement, the, uh,

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<v S1>also the Feast of Booths. And the way you can

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<v S1>click on the link that says, uh, a free gift

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<v S1>And then lastly, I want you to go to our

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<v S1>web page, Open Line radio.org. We're having a summit here,

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<v S1>a one day conference opposing anti-Semitism. It's a very important

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<v S1>day for Christians to come together from all over the country,

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<v S1>right here at Moody Bible Institute, to learn how we

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<v S1>can stand with God's people, the Jewish people, his chosen people,

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<v S1>and oppose this rising hatred of the Jewish people across

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<v S1>the globe. Uh, how we can take our responsibility seriously

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<v S1>as followers of Jesus to oppose this hatred. We need

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<v S1>to do that. I hope you'll join us November 9th

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<v S1>right here at Moody Bible Institute. Check out the link

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<v S1>on our web page, Open Line radio.org. We're going to

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<v S1>talk with Marsha in Tennessee. Mm. Listener. How can I

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<v S1>help you today? Marcia?

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<v S10>Hi. Um, I was watching the TV show last night

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<v S10>about the Gospels, and it was talking about in Matthew

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<v S10>that it told the lineage of Joseph. Mhm. But I

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<v S10>was I've always understood that the Jewishness of a person

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<v S10>is determined through the mother. And I didn't understand why

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<v S10>it was so important to tell the lineage of Joseph

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<v S10>and not the lineage of Mary. Well, but then one

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<v S10>of your.

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<v S1>Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me

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<v S1>just say the idea that match of matrilineal descent for

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<v S1>Jewish people is a very late concept in the Bible.

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<v S1>It was not so. That was because so much anti-Semitism,

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<v S1>Jewish women were frequently raped, and as a result of

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<v S1>that it was unknown who the father was, so the

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<v S1>rabbis decided to determine Jewishness through the mother rather than

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<v S1>the father. And. But in the Bible, it's either um

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<v S1>and the right to the throne of David came by

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<v S1>adoption through through Joseph. That's what Matthew records. Uh, because

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<v S1>that's his line is through Solomon and then, uh, through Mary.

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<v S1>Luke records Mary's genealogy, and that shows that the Lord

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<v S1>Jesus is an actual physical descendant of King David. So

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<v S1>he truly is the son of David. And that's why

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<v S1>both are given. Uh, Matthew gives Joseph's lineage the right

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<v S1>through Solomon. And then, uh, Mary's lineage through Nathan shows

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<v S1>that he is actually the son of David. So. Okay.

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<v S1>Thanks for your call, Marsha. Okay. Uh, and, uh, Yee

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<v S1>Ping in Chicago, Illinois, listening on Wmbi. How can I

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<v S1>help you today?

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<v S11>Hi. Good morning. Finally, I got through the line. Go

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<v S11>ahead with your question.

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<v S1>We're sort of at the end of the program. Yeah.

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<v S11>Yeah. I just want to say one thing. I really

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<v S11>appreciate your program. I learned a lot about the Hebrew Bible,

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<v S11>but I. Only one question. You know, the Ten Commandments,

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<v S11>they specifically said about honoring our parents, but not really

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<v S11>how to teach our children. Is that because emphasize the relationship,

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<v S11>our relationship with God?

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<v S1>Well, I'll tell you why I think it is. I

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<v S1>think there are other commandments in the law that teach

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<v S1>about parental responsibilities. But we often think of the Ten

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<v S1>Commandments when it talks about honor your father and mother,

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<v S1>that it's referring to little children honoring their parents. I

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<v S1>don't I don't believe that's how the Lord Jesus applied it.

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<v S1>He talks about it in Matthew 15 about, uh, children.

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<v S1>Adult children seeing their aged parents coming and and avoiding

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<v S1>helping them by saying all their goods and wealth are

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<v S1>devoted to God so they don't have to help their

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<v S1>aged parents. And so I think this command, which was

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<v S1>given to Israel, to the adults, that when your parents

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<v S1>get old, don't abandon them. Don't think, oh, they're such

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<v S1>a burden. Rather, honor your parents for what they've done

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<v S1>for you and help them and encourage them and support

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<v S1>them where you can. Be a strength to your parents

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<v S1>when they get old. Not someone that don't treat them

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<v S1>as if they are a burden. And I think that's

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<v S1>what the Ten Commandments is saying when it says, honor

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<v S1>your father and your mother. Uh, it's not talking about, uh,

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<v S1>little children. It's really talking about you and me when

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<v S1>we come to adulthood to care for, to respect, to

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<v S1>honor those parents. That gave a lot for us. Uh,

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<v S1>I hope that helps. Yi-ping. Uh, there's another time we

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<v S1>can talk about what does the Bible say about parents

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<v S1>responsibility to children? Uh, well, that's the program for the week.

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<v S1>I can't believe it's over. It's the fastest two hours

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<v S1>of the week for me. Thanks for listening, everyone. Especially

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<v S1>those of you who called or wrote you, make this

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<v S1>It's got all the links you're looking for there. Keep

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<v S1>reading the Bible and we'll talk about it next week.

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