WEBVTT - Inside a Safe Room 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:10.820 When the war broke out in Israel, we heard about 0:00:10.820 --> 0:00:13.790 safe rooms where families want to take refuge from the 0:00:13.790 --> 0:00:17.000 missile attacks. But what are those safe rooms really like? 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:19.430 How big are they? What do they come equipped with? 0:00:19.460 --> 0:00:21.500 This week on the land and the work, we're heading 0:00:21.500 --> 0:00:24.980 for Israel, where we'll go inside a safe room. You'll 0:00:24.980 --> 0:00:27.380 feel like you're right there with us. Plus, we'll look 0:00:27.380 --> 0:00:29.840 at a great assortment of your Bible questions, and we'll 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.839 end it all with a fishy tax story. Welcome to 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.540 the land and the book with Middle East expert doctor 0:00:35.540 --> 0:00:38.780 Charlie Dyer. I'm John Geiger. How's your day going, Charlie? 0:00:38.810 --> 0:00:40.699 John, it's going great. Thank you. 0:00:40.700 --> 0:00:43.610 Well, I'm thinking that Passover will soon be upon us, Charlie. 0:00:43.610 --> 0:00:46.670 And one of the traditional Passover questions is what makes 0:00:46.670 --> 0:00:50.479 this night different from all others? Passover, of course, is 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.660 an important biblical holiday that has great meaning for both 0:00:53.659 --> 0:00:56.720 Jewish people and believers in Jesus. So this is a 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.330 great question to ask. I would think it is John. 0:00:59.330 --> 0:01:02.990 And if people want to learn what makes Passover so special, well, 0:01:02.990 --> 0:01:05.119 our friends at Life and Messiah are offering to mail 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:09.260 them a free copy of their Messianic Passover Haggadah. 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And 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.270 as we do so, we want to remind you that 0:01:41.270 --> 0:01:45.290 our moody radio one hour special, Inside Israel, is available 0:01:45.290 --> 0:01:50.000 for download at Moody Radio. Org forward slash specials. We'll 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.980 tell you more about that at the conclusion of our 0:01:51.980 --> 0:01:55.670 current events segment. Charlie. The month of Ramadan ended without 0:01:55.670 --> 0:01:59.420 major incident, but the war between Israel and Hamas continues 0:01:59.420 --> 0:02:02.660 to take a series of unexpected twists and turns. So 0:02:02.660 --> 0:02:04.460 what are the latest developments? 0:02:04.460 --> 0:02:07.070 Yeah, you know, everyone was concerned about an explosion of 0:02:07.070 --> 0:02:11.090 violence during Ramadan. Both Hamas and ISIS had called on 0:02:11.090 --> 0:02:15.320 Muslims to march on Al-Aqsa and to target non-Muslims. But 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:19.220 the final Friday of Ramadan was peaceful, with 120,000 people 0:02:19.220 --> 0:02:22.580 praying at the site. And the month end quietly ended 0:02:22.580 --> 0:02:25.730 this past Tuesday. In terms of the war with Hamas, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.750 Israel announced last Sunday it had concluded the active invasion 0:02:29.750 --> 0:02:32.540 stage of the war and had withdrawn its forces from 0:02:32.540 --> 0:02:35.750 Khan Yunis in southern Gaza. The IDF chief said the 0:02:35.750 --> 0:02:38.360 withdrawal doesn't mean the war has ended, but it's simply 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.740 designed to help the army prepare for the incursion into Rafah. However, 0:02:42.740 --> 0:02:45.530 that might not be the full story. There could be 0:02:45.530 --> 0:02:48.920 several reasons for the announced withdrawal. The first might be 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.579 Israel's response to the warning from President Biden that Washington 0:02:52.580 --> 0:02:55.760 would change its policy of supporting Israel in its war 0:02:55.760 --> 0:03:00.740 unless Israel implemented major changes. These included specific steps to 0:03:00.740 --> 0:03:05.660 address the humanitarian situation there in Gaza and more flexibility 0:03:05.660 --> 0:03:08.869 in reaching a ceasefire. Former speaker of the House Nancy 0:03:08.870 --> 0:03:13.040 Pelosi joined dozens of congressional Democrats calling on the president 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.760 to halt weapons transfers to Israel. The second reason for 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.030 the announcement could be a concession to Hamas for reaching 0:03:20.030 --> 0:03:23.209 a deal on the hostages. It's less than Hamas is demanding, 0:03:23.210 --> 0:03:27.050 but it provides a possible way to move the negotiations forward. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.560 There's also a third possible reason Israel announced the pullout, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.200 and it is it gives Israel an opportunity to rest 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.920 its forces and repair its equipment for either an incursion 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.190 into Rafah, as they've announced, or for war against Hezbollah 0:03:40.190 --> 0:03:43.370 in the north. Prime Minister Netanyahu said. Israel has a 0:03:43.370 --> 0:03:46.760 date on the calendar for the Rafah invasion, and they're 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.780 purchasing tents to evacuate civilians from the area around any 0:03:50.780 --> 0:03:54.290 ground offensive there. At the same time, Israel is preparing 0:03:54.290 --> 0:03:58.640 their forces to meet challenges from Hezbollah and Iran in Lebanon. 0:03:58.850 --> 0:04:01.970 The warning that the US could withhold weapons and ammunition, 0:04:01.970 --> 0:04:05.300 especially in the face of Iranian threats, is a warning 0:04:05.300 --> 0:04:09.560 Israel takes seriously, especially since it's being voiced in other 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.160 Western countries. In fact, in the UK, former British Prime 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.820 Minister Boris Johnson called the threats being made. They're an 0:04:16.820 --> 0:04:21.410 example of the deathwish of Western civilization and sadly, his 0:04:21.410 --> 0:04:23.750 analysis appears to be right on the mark. 0:04:23.750 --> 0:04:26.719 Well, Charlie, you mentioned the impending threat from Hezbollah and 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.839 Iran a moment ago. What is behind that current threat? 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.279 How serious is it? 0:04:31.310 --> 0:04:33.260 Well, we know Iran has been behind much of the 0:04:33.260 --> 0:04:36.200 current tension in the Middle East. They've helped supply weapons 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.770 and training to Hamas, even though Hamas are Sunni Muslims, 0:04:39.770 --> 0:04:43.310 while Iran is Shiite. But Iran's also supplied arms, including 0:04:43.310 --> 0:04:46.790 missiles and drones, to Hezbollah in Lebanon and to the 0:04:46.790 --> 0:04:50.570 Houthis in Yemen, who share Iran's Shiite brand of Islam. 0:04:50.570 --> 0:04:54.320 These two take orders from Iran. The current threat level 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.980 escalated when Israel launched an airstrike in Damascus that killed 0:04:57.980 --> 0:05:02.839 a top Iranian general, who sat on Hezbollah's decision making body. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.320 This was a major blow to Iran and Hezbollah. Iran has. 0:05:06.540 --> 0:05:09.719 How to retaliate, and it's almost certain they will. The 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.650 only question is how. One possibility is to respond in 0:05:13.650 --> 0:05:17.010 a similar fashion, trying to attack an Israeli embassy or 0:05:17.010 --> 0:05:20.190 diplomatic site somewhere in the world. And I've done that before. 0:05:20.190 --> 0:05:23.549 Back in 1992, Iran set off a car bomb that 0:05:23.550 --> 0:05:27.480 destroyed the Israeli embassy in Argentina. Now, the other possibility 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:31.200 is that Iran might try a direct attack on Israel itself. 0:05:31.230 --> 0:05:34.469 You know, they're proxies in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq 0:05:34.470 --> 0:05:38.130 have launched drones and missiles here in recent past. Some 0:05:38.130 --> 0:05:40.830 believe Iran might try to launch a swarm of drones 0:05:40.830 --> 0:05:44.370 or cruise missiles against Israel. Israel has the ability to 0:05:44.370 --> 0:05:47.970 intercept drones and missiles, though if enough or launched, some 0:05:47.970 --> 0:05:50.940 might make it through. But that would also allow Israel 0:05:50.940 --> 0:05:54.239 to unleash its arsenal against Iran, and Israel could do 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.450 far more damage. They could stop many, perhaps most of 0:05:57.450 --> 0:06:01.080 Iran's missiles and drones. But Iran doesn't have the ability 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:05.010 to stop an Israeli counterattack. Israel could attack Iran's nuclear 0:06:05.010 --> 0:06:08.730 facilities as well as Iran's allies in Lebanon and Syria 0:06:08.730 --> 0:06:12.690 and Yemen. Iran's threat is real, but they're likely weighing 0:06:12.690 --> 0:06:16.169 the cost to their own country should Israel respond? 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.080 You're listening to a conversation with Doctor Charlie Dyer, noted 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.070 Old Testament scholar, Middle East expert, and yours truly, John Jaeger. 0:06:23.070 --> 0:06:25.200 A look at current events here on Moody Radio's The 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:29.640 Land and the book. Turkey and Iran continue to struggle financially. 0:06:29.910 --> 0:06:32.610 How much of an impact did Turkey's finances have on 0:06:32.610 --> 0:06:36.300 their recent elections and what's happening financially in Iran? 0:06:36.450 --> 0:06:40.350 Well, finances did have a significant impact on Turkey's elections. 0:06:40.350 --> 0:06:45.150 President Erdogan's party suffered a major defeat in those municipal elections. 0:06:45.150 --> 0:06:48.659 He campaigned hard for his candidate in Istanbul to defeat 0:06:48.660 --> 0:06:51.990 the incumbent mayor from the opposition party, but the incumbent 0:06:51.990 --> 0:06:56.490 mayor won easily. Erdogan's party also lost another major cities 0:06:56.490 --> 0:07:00.479 like Ankara and Izmir. The dominant issue for voters were 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.830 Erdogan's financial policies and their negative impact on Turkey's economy. 0:07:04.860 --> 0:07:08.220 Now switching from Turkey to Iran, they've also experienced a 0:07:08.220 --> 0:07:11.130 sharp crash in the value of their currency. In fact, 0:07:11.130 --> 0:07:14.310 over the last week or so, the currency dropped 30% 0:07:14.310 --> 0:07:18.510 in just one day. Inflation in Iran is out of control. 0:07:18.540 --> 0:07:22.290 A one example people gave 50,000 Iranian riyals would have 0:07:22.290 --> 0:07:25.530 bought 30 eggs a decade ago. Now it buys a 0:07:25.530 --> 0:07:29.280 single egg. There have been demonstrations across Iran because of 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.880 the economic hardships. But the difference between Turkey and Iran 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.510 is this. Turkey at least has free elections with different 0:07:36.510 --> 0:07:40.380 political parties. In Iran, the ayatollahs approve. Who gets to 0:07:40.380 --> 0:07:43.500 be on the ballot? Iran is in economic decline as 0:07:43.500 --> 0:07:47.070 a result, yet they continue spending to expand their military, 0:07:47.070 --> 0:07:50.820 advance their nuclear program and threaten Israel, all at the 0:07:50.820 --> 0:07:54.420 expense of the average Iranian just trying to make ends meet. 0:07:54.420 --> 0:07:58.050 Wow, it doesn't sound good. Archaeologists believe they have uncovered 0:07:58.050 --> 0:08:03.120 religious details of the ancient Philistines. What exactly have they discovered, Charlie? 0:08:03.150 --> 0:08:06.810 You know, John, this is a fascinating study. Archaeologists excavating 0:08:06.810 --> 0:08:10.350 the biblical city of Gath analyze the remains of plants 0:08:10.350 --> 0:08:13.770 and seeds found in a temple there. And they discovered 0:08:13.770 --> 0:08:18.660 the priests used psychoactive plants in their ceremonies. Now, these 0:08:18.660 --> 0:08:22.260 aren't psychedelic drugs, but rather drugs that cause changes in, 0:08:22.260 --> 0:08:25.200 you know, mood, awareness, feeling or behavior. Think of drugs 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:29.370 like caffeine, nicotine, or alcohol rather than drugs like LSD. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.000 They were mood enhancers that they were using. But even 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:37.170 more significantly, these drugs help connect the religious practices of 0:08:37.170 --> 0:08:41.460 the Philistines to rituals and myths associated with the ancient 0:08:41.460 --> 0:08:44.970 Greek gods and goddesses like Hera, the goddess of marriage 0:08:44.970 --> 0:08:48.510 and childbirth, and Artemis, the goddess of hunting, and Demeter, 0:08:48.510 --> 0:08:51.570 the goddess of agriculture and grain, and Asclepius, the god 0:08:51.570 --> 0:08:55.470 of medicine. The study points to a close relationship between 0:08:55.470 --> 0:08:58.950 the ritual practices of the Philistines and those practiced in 0:08:58.950 --> 0:09:01.860 the Aegean islands. Now these details help confirm what the 0:09:01.860 --> 0:09:06.300 Bible makes clear in Amos chapter nine. In Jeremiah 47, 0:09:06.450 --> 0:09:09.540 there God connects the origin of the Philistines to the 0:09:09.540 --> 0:09:12.660 region of Castor, which is the biblical name for Crete. 0:09:12.690 --> 0:09:18.540 These additional archaeological details about the Philistines religious practices just 0:09:18.540 --> 0:09:23.100 help authenticate their connection and their origin in the Aegean region. 0:09:23.100 --> 0:09:25.890 And that's a look at current events. Charlie, we are 0:09:25.890 --> 0:09:28.320 just back a few weeks from our tour of Israel. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.110 We traveled 1100 miles, spent five and a half days 0:09:31.110 --> 0:09:34.290 in the country, but we interviewed more than 30 people, 0:09:34.290 --> 0:09:37.620 bringing back more than 12 hours of conversations. All for 0:09:37.620 --> 0:09:42.000 this 54 minute special called Inside Israel a highlight moment 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.340 for you. Or perhaps something that really is sobering to 0:09:44.340 --> 0:09:47.220 you that you think listeners must take advantage of as 0:09:47.220 --> 0:09:47.880 they listen? 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.830 Well, I'll go from one extreme to the other. The 0:09:49.830 --> 0:09:53.070 horrors of Bieri was one as we walked through that town. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.220 It's hard to believe what happened on October 7th. But 0:09:56.220 --> 0:09:58.829 then on the other extreme, the inspiring stories we heard 0:09:58.830 --> 0:10:02.670 of hope and bravery and spiritual openness, they were truly 0:10:02.670 --> 0:10:04.650 encouraging to me, and I think they will be to 0:10:04.650 --> 0:10:05.940 those who listen to the program. 0:10:05.940 --> 0:10:08.140 Yeah, it is an. An intense experience as you listen 0:10:08.140 --> 0:10:13.300 to our special Inside Israel, available at Moody Radio. Org 0:10:13.300 --> 0:10:17.260 forward slash specials. Also, there are three bonus videos, including 0:10:17.260 --> 0:10:20.500 Charlie Dyer's look at the Hamas attack, comparing it to 0:10:20.500 --> 0:10:23.800 a biblical parallel event in history. That's all there at 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.780 Moody Radio. Org forward slash specials. As you listen, you 0:10:28.780 --> 0:10:31.360 will feel shock at what you see and hear through 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.660 our on the ground reports. You will hear agony from 0:10:34.660 --> 0:10:37.720 family members of hostages. Yep. We talked to some of those. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.300 Hope though, as Charlie points out, as you hear the 0:10:40.300 --> 0:10:43.210 wonderful impact that Christians are making and we hope a 0:10:43.210 --> 0:10:45.699 resolve to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and the 0:10:45.700 --> 0:10:49.689 entire region. Again, our one hour special is called Inside 0:10:49.690 --> 0:10:52.179 Israel The War. And what's next? You'll find it at 0:10:52.179 --> 0:10:57.790 Moody radio.org/specials. Up next, we'll take you to a safe 0:10:57.790 --> 0:11:14.810 room in Israel. As the events of October 7th unfolded, 0:11:14.809 --> 0:11:18.410 you heard names like Ashkelon in the news down toward 0:11:18.410 --> 0:11:20.960 the Gaza border. Welcome back to the land. In the 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.570 book segment two, I'm Jon Jaeger and you have joined 0:11:23.570 --> 0:11:26.599 us in Ashkelon. We're here on the balcony of a 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:30.559 beautiful apartment. Tatyana Gurevich, you're an executive tour operator with 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.470 several tours. You're in a beautiful neighborhood here. 0:11:33.500 --> 0:11:37.429 Welcome to Ashkelon. It's a beautiful city on the Mediterranean, 0:11:37.429 --> 0:11:40.610 which you can see straight ahead. We live in the 0:11:40.610 --> 0:11:44.449 northern part of the city. So to your right you 0:11:44.450 --> 0:11:48.170 can see the city of Ashdod that has been attacked 0:11:48.170 --> 0:11:52.220 many times during the war as well. We luckily live 0:11:52.220 --> 0:11:54.560 in the north of the city, so this part of 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:59.000 the city was not so badly hit as the southern, 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.150 which is closer to the Gaza Strip, and the center 0:12:02.150 --> 0:12:04.820 of the city, where they have a lot of houses 0:12:04.820 --> 0:12:08.839 that are not properly equipped for the bad things that 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.600 can happen during the war. We live in a very 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:16.820 new neighborhood, and as you know well, um, decades ago, 0:12:16.820 --> 0:12:20.959 Israel has demanded that all the new construction must have 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:25.100 a special security room with the reinforced walls and a 0:12:25.100 --> 0:12:30.170 special window. However, since the city, I guess it's surrounded 0:12:30.170 --> 0:12:34.130 by a very good protection. All the performance of the 0:12:34.130 --> 0:12:37.010 Iron Dome, we could see very well from this balcony, 0:12:37.010 --> 0:12:42.650 because all that was happening right in front of us, unfortunately. Well, maybe. Fortunately, 0:12:42.650 --> 0:12:45.860 we did not spend much time on this lovely balcony 0:12:45.860 --> 0:12:48.470 with this view during the first weeks of the war, 0:12:48.470 --> 0:12:52.010 because it was quite dangerous. And we'll walk into the 0:12:52.010 --> 0:12:54.380 apartment so I can show you what it was. Our 0:12:54.380 --> 0:12:58.010 daily routine during the first days and weeks of the war. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.990 Before we head into the home, though, we're out here 0:12:59.990 --> 0:13:02.060 on the balcony. People are probably hearing the wind blowing 0:13:02.059 --> 0:13:04.729 into our microphone, telling me about things that you have 0:13:04.730 --> 0:13:07.790 seen during the war. And even as the war continues 0:13:07.790 --> 0:13:08.750 to wind down. 0:13:08.750 --> 0:13:13.700 What was the most unusual besides of the rocket attacks, 0:13:13.700 --> 0:13:16.700 to which unfortunately, we are kind of used to living 0:13:16.700 --> 0:13:20.780 here in Ashkelon. But what did strike me during the 0:13:20.780 --> 0:13:24.829 first days and even weeks? It's the silence. It was 0:13:24.830 --> 0:13:30.079 a complete silence. The city was not isolated, but people. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.060 As I said, we didn't spend much time on the 0:13:32.059 --> 0:13:34.580 balcony because we were afraid to go out. And I 0:13:34.580 --> 0:13:36.980 guess that was the same thing with other people who 0:13:36.980 --> 0:13:40.880 live in the same neighborhood. Usually during the day, especially 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:45.589 in the morning, you can hear children crying, parents hurrying 0:13:45.590 --> 0:13:49.160 them up to go to school, starting the engines, these 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:53.390 and that. The sounds of human life. The first days 0:13:53.390 --> 0:13:58.850 and weeks you did not hear anything. It was absolutely silent. 0:13:58.850 --> 0:14:04.040 No cars, no people outside in the streets. More than that, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.700 you could not even hear the birds. Usually I wake 0:14:07.700 --> 0:14:11.810 up with a bird singing, hear no birds. So for 0:14:11.809 --> 0:14:14.240 me it was very sad because it was like you 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.760 felt like you're in the middle of nowhere. You didn't 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.850 see any people and you didn't hear any signs of 0:14:19.850 --> 0:14:21.470 human life around. 0:14:21.470 --> 0:14:23.930 But from this balcony, you saw rockets? 0:14:23.930 --> 0:14:27.020 Yes we did. If you look to your left, there 0:14:27.020 --> 0:14:30.320 was a direct hit near one of the private houses 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.680 down there on the first day of war. A few 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.730 days later, there was another house hit, one of the 0:14:37.730 --> 0:14:41.960 private houses. Besides, as I said, you could see all 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.380 the rockets and the Iron Dome performance in front of 0:14:45.380 --> 0:14:49.160 our balcony. It was more picturesque, if I can use 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:52.010 this word during the night, because in the day you 0:14:52.010 --> 0:14:55.550 don't see much. But in the night when the sky 0:14:55.550 --> 0:14:58.760 is black, you can see all the rockets going back 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.930 and then Iron Dome hits them. Some apartment houses were 0:15:02.930 --> 0:15:06.920 also hit in our neighborhood, got saved us. Our building 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.590 was not hit, but the building across the street on 0:15:09.590 --> 0:15:12.590 the other side was hit and they are now doing 0:15:12.590 --> 0:15:16.700 some renovation works outside the building. The southern part of 0:15:16.700 --> 0:15:19.400 the city, which is closer to the Gaza Strip and 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.420 the center of the city, were worse and there were 0:15:23.420 --> 0:15:28.310 many houses destroyed by the rockets. And unfortunately there were casualties, 0:15:28.310 --> 0:15:31.250 of course, and you can still see those houses as 0:15:31.250 --> 0:15:32.750 you drive through the city. 0:15:32.990 --> 0:15:34.490 All right, let's go inside the home. We got to 0:15:34.490 --> 0:15:36.470 go to your safe room and feel what it's really 0:15:36.470 --> 0:15:39.410 like to be inside one of these. Passing through the 0:15:39.410 --> 0:15:42.290 living room. We're going to go down the hallway here. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.010 I see a black metal door here. 0:15:46.580 --> 0:15:52.570 Listen to the sound. That's how we clocks. And it 0:15:52.570 --> 0:15:56.260 should be locked. You should go there, lock the door 0:15:56.260 --> 0:16:02.590 and stay inside. Minimum ten minutes. Minimum. Here is the 0:16:02.590 --> 0:16:07.420 sound of unlocking the door. Okay. Heavy. Okay, so this 0:16:07.420 --> 0:16:11.350 is the room where we spent almost all the time. 0:16:11.350 --> 0:16:15.550 The first weeks when the rocket attacks were very heavy 0:16:15.790 --> 0:16:18.520 during the time of sirens, which the first days were 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:24.040 almost non-stop, almost non-stop. So this is a special protected room. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.190 I'm not an engineer, but what I know is that 0:16:27.190 --> 0:16:30.580 they use a special concrete for the walls so that 0:16:30.580 --> 0:16:33.700 they are stronger than other walls in the building, and 0:16:33.700 --> 0:16:37.060 a special window. So the window is made of a 0:16:37.060 --> 0:16:43.240 special glass, and then it also has special iron shutters 0:16:43.330 --> 0:16:45.580 which are very heavy. All right, let's hear it. 0:16:50.260 --> 0:16:52.270 Oh, took the two of us to get that one. 0:16:52.270 --> 0:16:54.160 Let me see if we can get this one. This. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.370 This one is easier. Wow. 0:16:57.820 --> 0:16:59.740 They're thick though. It's like an inch thick. 0:16:59.740 --> 0:17:03.430 Thick? They are very thick. And we had them shut 0:17:03.430 --> 0:17:06.730 for almost three month, I think we did not even 0:17:06.730 --> 0:17:10.869 as we close them on the first days of the wars, 0:17:10.869 --> 0:17:14.590 I can't remember. Oktober seven eight and then we kept 0:17:14.590 --> 0:17:18.880 them shut for three month minimum. This room protects you. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:25.390 Of course it does give you the feeling of being protected. However, 0:17:25.390 --> 0:17:29.410 as we know the sound wave is is very. It's 0:17:29.410 --> 0:17:32.770 very easy to feel and get. So we could hear 0:17:32.770 --> 0:17:37.629 everything that was going around. And there were several attacks 0:17:37.630 --> 0:17:42.760 when I was sitting inside, locked, sealed here in this room. 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.030 And when it was over, I was afraid to open 0:17:46.030 --> 0:17:48.909 the door and come out of this room, because from 0:17:48.910 --> 0:17:52.389 what I heard during the attack, it was almost a 0:17:52.390 --> 0:17:57.159 feeling like there is nothing outside this room. Honestly, I 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.320 had a feeling if I opened the door I don't 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.940 see anything. So the sounds of the attacks were so heavy. 0:18:03.940 --> 0:18:07.990 So we were sitting and praying here. Here are prayer 0:18:07.990 --> 0:18:13.360 cards in the security room. If you spend hours here, 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.280 you can pray with this. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:16.000 Lovely. 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:21.730 Yep. Today's prayer. Let's read it. He shields all who 0:18:21.730 --> 0:18:26.290 take refuge in him. Some. I don't have my reading glasses, John. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.950 Psalm 1830. He shields all who take refuge in him. 0:18:29.950 --> 0:18:31.720 What a what a fitting psalm that is. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.209 I did not put it on top. It was on top. 0:18:34.210 --> 0:18:36.340 You can see I did not make it. Let me 0:18:36.340 --> 0:18:36.580 ask you. 0:18:36.580 --> 0:18:39.639 This and take a seat here in your shelter. What 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.100 is going on? Is your heart pitter patter? Ring 100 0:18:42.100 --> 0:18:44.380 miles an hour when you finally have to jump up 0:18:44.380 --> 0:18:46.480 and get in here. I mean, what's going through your mind? 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.149 Are you. Are you terrified? You in control? Are you? 0:18:49.570 --> 0:18:54.340 Look, we played in Ashkelon for six years, I think 0:18:54.340 --> 0:18:57.370 it's not the first time. So when it all started 0:18:57.369 --> 0:19:02.140 on October 7th and before we got to know other 0:19:02.140 --> 0:19:06.160 horrible things that happen, we thought it's too bad to 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.790 use this word, but we thought it's just an ordinary 0:19:09.790 --> 0:19:14.800 rocket attack that we had experienced many times before. And 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.889 I would say the rocket attacks for us, for the 0:19:17.890 --> 0:19:21.010 people in Ashkelon, I would not speak for other people, 0:19:21.010 --> 0:19:23.979 but for me personally, they were not as bad, although 0:19:23.980 --> 0:19:27.250 they were scary. It's the first time in years that 0:19:27.250 --> 0:19:30.609 I lived here in Ashkelon when I did get scared 0:19:30.609 --> 0:19:34.149 sitting in this room, but I think the worst thing 0:19:34.150 --> 0:19:38.170 was the news that we started to hear. My husband 0:19:38.170 --> 0:19:40.840 and I did not watch the news. We only watched 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:42.909 the news that was telling us what we need to 0:19:42.910 --> 0:19:46.300 do and that's it. And then a couple of days later, 0:19:46.300 --> 0:19:50.020 they started telling us what happened in the South, and 0:19:50.020 --> 0:19:52.690 that was when I was really hit by that war. 0:19:52.990 --> 0:19:57.790 That was the worst, worst feeling. Not the rockets, not 0:19:57.790 --> 0:20:01.330 the fear that I personally have sitting in the security room. 0:20:01.330 --> 0:20:04.660 I mean, I could not complain because there were so 0:20:04.660 --> 0:20:08.650 many people which were in a much worse situation that me, 0:20:08.650 --> 0:20:11.950 that I even felt that I don't have the right 0:20:11.950 --> 0:20:16.660 to complain. I mean, I have this room and I'm safe. 0:20:17.109 --> 0:20:22.960 How can I complain? There was even. Um, when we 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:27.010 learned about the hostages, I remember for a couple of 0:20:27.010 --> 0:20:32.950 days my mind would refuse to eat and shower. I 0:20:32.950 --> 0:20:36.460 could not do those simple things because every time I 0:20:36.460 --> 0:20:38.889 was thinking, oh, let's go and have a shower, I said, 0:20:38.890 --> 0:20:41.110 oh my gosh, there are so many people who cannot 0:20:41.109 --> 0:20:44.920 do that. And then my husband would say, let's sit 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.710 and eat something. At least. I said, how can I eat? 0:20:47.710 --> 0:20:52.130 I could not swallow the food on. Honestly it passed. 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:58.100 It passed because every pain comes down. And, uh, of 0:20:58.100 --> 0:21:02.540 course we started doing daily things, showering, eating and everything. 0:21:02.540 --> 0:21:06.170 But I still remember those days when I could not 0:21:06.170 --> 0:21:09.920 do those simple things because I thought, I have no 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:13.610 right to do that when other people are suffering so badly. 0:21:14.030 --> 0:21:17.720 When the first fear came down and we all realized 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:22.460 that it's not an ordinary attack, that is something more serious. 0:21:22.490 --> 0:21:26.720 What happened is that everyone wanted to help. Like my 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.750 husband and I cannot go to the army. But what 0:21:29.750 --> 0:21:34.310 can we do? There were so many people volunteering, cooking 0:21:34.310 --> 0:21:38.360 at home, taking the food to as close as they 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.730 could to the soldiers. Because it's not like you could 0:21:40.730 --> 0:21:44.660 drive anywhere you want. But taking the food down. There 0:21:44.660 --> 0:21:47.900 were many people who do not have this special room, 0:21:47.900 --> 0:21:50.840 and they were afraid to leave their homes. So they 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:54.830 were getting the phone numbers, the addresses of elderly people 0:21:54.830 --> 0:21:59.060 or handicapped people delivering food to them. So these are 0:21:59.060 --> 0:22:01.400 two things that my husband and I did try to 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:06.050 get involved in. But I think that even though that 0:22:06.050 --> 0:22:08.630 it was as little as we could do, it was 0:22:08.630 --> 0:22:11.570 a common, this I can say for the whole country, 0:22:11.570 --> 0:22:14.719 not only for myself. That's what everyone could see in 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.900 the country, the feeling of unity. And everyone wanted to 0:22:17.900 --> 0:22:23.659 contribute something, to contribute into the protection of our country, 0:22:23.660 --> 0:22:28.100 as well as to show solidarity and to show that 0:22:28.100 --> 0:22:31.820 we are united. And when we are united, we are 0:22:31.820 --> 0:22:35.870 much stronger. There was an interesting thing that happened a 0:22:35.869 --> 0:22:40.580 couple of weeks after the war started. There was uh, 0:22:40.580 --> 0:22:43.550 I think they called it Flash mob, but it was 0:22:43.550 --> 0:22:47.959 like an emotional deed from all the people. All the 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:51.080 people in the evening at 8 p.m. went out to 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:56.390 their balconies and they all sang the national anthem, uh, Hatikvah. 0:22:56.540 --> 0:22:58.970 I think my husband got it on his phone. He 0:22:58.970 --> 0:23:02.359 made it and show it. Like if we open the 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.090 shutters again so that you can see it. 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.970 Uh, grab your saw. Grab mine. 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.669 Do you see? This one is closed too. But you 0:23:10.670 --> 0:23:14.120 see all those balconies, you can still see the Israeli flags. 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:17.150 There were more of those during the first weeks. And 0:23:17.150 --> 0:23:20.270 all the people went out to their balconies and sang. 0:23:20.270 --> 0:23:25.190 It was so emotional. It was so touching. And yeah, 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:29.150 it just helped us to know that you're not alone 0:23:29.150 --> 0:23:32.960 in your apartment, in your bedroom. There are other people around, 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.660 even though you don't see and you don't hear them, 0:23:35.660 --> 0:23:38.570 but they are there and we are together. 0:23:38.570 --> 0:23:42.500 Wow. So what do you think Americans don't really understand 0:23:42.500 --> 0:23:45.590 about this war? What did they not quite grasp? 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:49.940 I want not only Americans, but all people in the 0:23:49.940 --> 0:23:54.649 world not to know, but to realize and understand what 0:23:54.650 --> 0:23:59.600 come to this understanding. We don't need wars. Wars are 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:04.220 terrible for all. It doesn't matter if you're right. All 0:24:04.220 --> 0:24:07.970 people suffer from the war. I would want all people 0:24:07.970 --> 0:24:11.150 around the world, no matter which country they are in, 0:24:11.150 --> 0:24:16.700 to know that wars are terrible. And as much time 0:24:16.700 --> 0:24:21.440 and effort as we spend on climate crisis, I would spend, 0:24:21.650 --> 0:24:26.540 for example, for United Nations to educating people that in 0:24:26.540 --> 0:24:30.860 the 21st century, after all the history we had, we 0:24:30.859 --> 0:24:35.600 should not even think of starting any wars anywhere. 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.210 What else about this whole thing? Have I not asked 0:24:38.210 --> 0:24:41.389 you that's important to you? Anything, a story, a reflection, 0:24:41.690 --> 0:24:43.760 something you felt from God? 0:24:44.180 --> 0:24:47.930 I felt a lot of support from the Americans. Kathy 0:24:47.930 --> 0:24:51.080 and Charlie were the first ones to send me a 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:57.020 message asking, how am I? I received so many support 0:24:57.020 --> 0:25:01.010 and care from the people that I met on the 0:25:01.010 --> 0:25:05.570 tours to Israel. Many of those were with Charlie, Kathy, 0:25:05.570 --> 0:25:08.570 some of them were with you, John, and many others. 0:25:08.990 --> 0:25:13.729 And uh, that helped also that helped knowing that you 0:25:13.730 --> 0:25:17.359 are not alone, knowing that there are brothers and sisters 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:22.400 who will always support you and praying. I mean, what 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.760 can you do if you're not in the army, if 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:29.090 you cannot control things, the only thing you can do 0:25:29.090 --> 0:25:33.620 is to pray, because those prayers do materialize and we 0:25:33.619 --> 0:25:35.270 do see it here in Israel. 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:36.560 God answers prayer. 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:37.310 He does. 0:25:37.310 --> 0:25:40.130 Well, you've heard about the war. Now you've felt the war. 0:25:40.130 --> 0:25:42.830 You've heard about a safe room. We've taken you to one, 0:25:42.830 --> 0:25:44.869 and there's more to come. On today's edition of The 0:25:44.869 --> 0:25:46.609 Land in the book, we're about to head back into 0:25:46.609 --> 0:25:49.550 our studios, where Charlie Dyer is waiting with his Bible. 0:25:49.780 --> 0:25:51.699 He's looking forward to it, I am too. As we 0:25:51.700 --> 0:25:54.639 tackle more of your questions next here on the land 0:25:54.640 --> 0:26:08.580 and the book. It's segment three of the land in 0:26:08.580 --> 0:26:11.220 the book. I'm John Jaeger. Thanks for hanging out so far. 0:26:11.220 --> 0:26:13.800 I think you're gonna love what's coming next. What's next? 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.530 It's questions. Yours. Perhaps one of those that you have 0:26:16.530 --> 0:26:20.340 emailed us as you've puzzled over something you've encountered in Scripture, 0:26:20.340 --> 0:26:23.850 maybe something you're wondering about prophecy. Maybe it's an issue 0:26:23.850 --> 0:26:26.070 related to the Middle East. Those questions are all fair 0:26:26.070 --> 0:26:28.709 game if you'll email us at the land and the 0:26:28.710 --> 0:26:32.820 book at Moody's Edu. Well, Charlie, Passover will soon be 0:26:32.820 --> 0:26:35.910 upon us. And one of the traditional Passover questions is 0:26:35.910 --> 0:26:40.050 what makes this night different from all others? Passover is 0:26:40.050 --> 0:26:43.200 an important biblical holiday that has great meaning for both 0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.260 Jewish people and believers in Jesus. So I think that's 0:26:46.260 --> 0:26:47.850 an important question to ask. 0:26:48.030 --> 0:26:50.220 It is John, and that's why if someone has more 0:26:50.220 --> 0:26:53.250 questions and wants to know what makes Passover so special, well, 0:26:53.250 --> 0:26:55.919 our friends at Life and Messiah are offering to mail 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.820 a free copy of their Messianic Passover Haggadah. The booklet 0:26:59.820 --> 0:27:02.160 will lead you through the celebration of Passover to see 0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.429 the rich connections to Jesus, our Messiah, and to the 0:27:05.430 --> 0:27:08.310 Last Supper. You'll also receive a link for an interactive 0:27:08.310 --> 0:27:11.820 Passover Seder video with the Haggadah and video. 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And he read the Hebrew and said the 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.859 actual Hebrew word or translation says A young woman, not 0:27:49.859 --> 0:27:52.320 a virgin. Can you shed some light on this? 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.889 Yeah. And the Hebrew word used in Isaiah 714 is alma, 0:27:55.890 --> 0:27:59.490 which does indeed refer to a young woman of marriageable age. 0:27:59.490 --> 0:28:01.740 And your friend is right in that the Hebrew word 0:28:01.740 --> 0:28:05.220 for virgin is Baitullah. However, I believe there's a rather 0:28:05.220 --> 0:28:08.580 easy answer to the objection he's raised. First, the word 0:28:08.580 --> 0:28:11.130 alma is used eight other times in the Old Testament, 0:28:11.130 --> 0:28:14.310 and the woman or women it is describing. There are 0:28:14.310 --> 0:28:18.330 presumed to be chaste, not sexually active. For example, in 0:28:18.330 --> 0:28:21.810 Genesis 24, it's used to describe Rebecca during her first 0:28:21.810 --> 0:28:25.080 encounter with Abraham's servant at the well in Exodus two. 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.960 It's used to describe Moses's sister Miriam. At the time. 0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.990 Moses was found in the basket in the Nile in 0:28:30.990 --> 0:28:35.429 Psalm 6825. It's used to describe maidens playing tambourines in 0:28:35.430 --> 0:28:39.360 the procession to God's sanctuary. In Proverbs 31 of my favorites, 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.240 the writer speaks of the four mysterious ways, with the 0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.490 fourth being the way of a man with a maid. 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.130 And that's the word there. But it's picturing the mystery 0:28:47.130 --> 0:28:50.219 of love and courtship. There's nothing sexual or immoral in 0:28:50.220 --> 0:28:53.190 that verse. In Song of Solomon six eight, the words 0:28:53.190 --> 0:28:55.860 used to describe one of the three groups of females 0:28:55.860 --> 0:28:59.160 in Solomon's household. It says there are 60 queens, 80 0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:02.640 concubines and maidens without number. I hear it's referring to 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.310 the female attendants who took care of the women in 0:29:05.310 --> 0:29:08.100 the harem. But these maidens are quite distinct from those 0:29:08.100 --> 0:29:10.830 who are connected sexually to the king. Now, my point 0:29:10.830 --> 0:29:13.530 is that every time the word alma is used, it's 0:29:13.530 --> 0:29:15.870 used to describe a young woman with a focus on 0:29:15.870 --> 0:29:18.420 her age. But we might use the word teenager in 0:29:18.420 --> 0:29:21.150 a similar way, but even that's not a good comparison. 0:29:21.150 --> 0:29:23.580 And the next point is that young woman of marriageable 0:29:23.580 --> 0:29:25.860 age was presumed to be, in fact, was expected to 0:29:25.860 --> 0:29:29.370 be chaste in Deuteronomy 22. It describes a number of 0:29:29.370 --> 0:29:33.270 issues related to marriage and sexual immorality, and one key 0:29:33.270 --> 0:29:36.690 underlying issue is that sexual purity prior to marriage was 0:29:36.690 --> 0:29:39.690 extremely important, so much so that the death penalty was 0:29:39.690 --> 0:29:42.360 imposed on a young woman who wasn't chaste. In fact, 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.180 it says in verse 21 there she's done a disgraceful 0:29:45.180 --> 0:29:47.969 thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her 0:29:47.970 --> 0:29:51.210 father's house. So in alma, a young woman of marriageable 0:29:51.210 --> 0:29:54.840 age was presumed to be a bachelor, a virgin. So 0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.450 I put all this together and look at one last thing. 0:29:57.450 --> 0:30:01.200 The Septuagint, the Greek translation of Isaiah 714, was made 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.900 about a hundred years before the time of Jesus. They 0:30:03.900 --> 0:30:07.170 were trying to translate Isaiah 714 into Greek, and they 0:30:07.170 --> 0:30:10.590 translated alma as Parthenon, as the Greek word for virgin, 0:30:10.590 --> 0:30:13.260 rather than using the normal Greek word for maiden, which 0:30:13.260 --> 0:30:15.990 was correct. In other words, they felt the Greek word 0:30:15.990 --> 0:30:18.390 for maiden had too much baggage attached to it and 0:30:18.390 --> 0:30:21.360 the loose moral climate of Greece. So they used a 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.850 word that conveyed the chastity that came with a young 0:30:23.850 --> 0:30:26.850 woman of marriageable age. In the Hebrew culture. 0:30:26.850 --> 0:30:29.580 Stan goes on, I shared with my Jewish friend Micah 0:30:29.580 --> 0:30:32.970 five verse two, that verse pointing to the Messiah being 0:30:32.970 --> 0:30:36.030 born in Bethlehem. And his Old Testament scripture did not 0:30:36.030 --> 0:30:40.080 have a Micah five verse one. He started with Micah five, 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.080 verse two as the first verse in Micah. Just curious 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.880 your thoughts about this. Yeah. 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.370 Don't get rattled by your friend's Hebrew Bible not matching 0:30:47.370 --> 0:30:50.280 your Bible right at that point. It has all the verses, 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.370 but the chapter and verse divisions in that spot are 0:30:53.370 --> 0:30:56.729 just slightly different between the Hebrew and English Bibles. What 0:30:56.730 --> 0:30:59.400 we have is Micah five one in our Bibles is 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.480 actually Micah four, verse 14. In their Bibles. The chapter 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.060 and verse divisions were added later in history and. They 0:31:06.060 --> 0:31:09.150 don't impact the meaning of what Micah was saying. So, uh, 0:31:09.150 --> 0:31:11.790 in this case, it's all they're just, uh, the verse 0:31:11.790 --> 0:31:14.730 divisions are slightly different, and, uh, that's what I think 0:31:14.730 --> 0:31:16.200 you can share with your friend. 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:20.280 Are there other Old Testament scriptures like Isaiah 53 that 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.670 would be appropriate to show my Jewish friend that Jesus 0:31:23.670 --> 0:31:27.030 is the Messiah and is also coming again a second time. 0:31:27.030 --> 0:31:30.300 They think the Messiah only comes once and believe of course, 0:31:30.300 --> 0:31:32.880 Jesus was not the Messiah, and so they're still waiting. 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:33.150 What do you. 0:31:33.150 --> 0:31:35.550 Think? Yeah, well, in terms of showing the two comings 0:31:35.550 --> 0:31:37.290 of the Messiah, I think the problem is that the 0:31:37.290 --> 0:31:40.410 Old Testament does seem confusing and was so at the 0:31:40.410 --> 0:31:44.490 time of Christ. Two examples in first Peter 110 and 11, 0:31:44.490 --> 0:31:47.610 Peter writes concerning the salvation, the prophets who spoke of 0:31:47.610 --> 0:31:50.190 the grace that was to come to you, searched intently 0:31:50.190 --> 0:31:53.310 with the greatest care, trying to find out the time 0:31:53.310 --> 0:31:55.620 and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them 0:31:55.620 --> 0:31:58.680 was pointing, when he predicted the sufferings of Christ. There's 0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.500 the first coming, and the glories that would follow. That's 0:32:01.500 --> 0:32:04.590 the Second Coming. Peter's saying that the prophets who delivered 0:32:04.590 --> 0:32:08.100 the prophecies were themselves scratching their heads, trying to put 0:32:08.100 --> 0:32:11.400 the material together. They didn't quite have it all together. There. Now, 0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.130 having said that, here's my suggestion on how to address 0:32:14.130 --> 0:32:16.260 the issue with your friend. I point out the two 0:32:16.260 --> 0:32:19.200 sets of Old Testament prophecies related to the Messiah. So 0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:23.400 Isaiah 53, pictures of Suffering servant coming to bear our sin, 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.030 and Zechariah nine and 11 describe the Messiah riding into 0:32:27.030 --> 0:32:30.360 Jerusalem on a colt, but being rejected and sold for 0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.480 30 pieces of silver. Then point out the passages that 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:37.500 picture a coming triumphant Messiah. Isaiah nine verses 6 to 7. 0:32:37.530 --> 0:32:41.070 This child's going to sit on David's throne, and Micah 0:32:41.070 --> 0:32:44.640 five two, which talks about him ruling. Then ask, how 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.280 can the Messiah come to reign but also come to suffer, 0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.550 be rejected, and die for our sins? And before he answers, 0:32:50.550 --> 0:32:55.380 point out two other passages Daniel 924 to 27, which 0:32:55.380 --> 0:32:57.360 gives the time from the going forth of a command 0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.630 to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Messiah, the Prince. 0:33:00.630 --> 0:33:02.880 But then says the Anointed One, the Messiah, is going 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.400 to be cut off. And the word there carries the 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.260 idea of being put to death. And then the second 0:33:07.260 --> 0:33:11.610 passage to read Zechariah 1210, it describes God's return to 0:33:11.610 --> 0:33:14.160 his people and says, they'll look on me, the one 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.310 they've pierced, and mourn as one mourns for an only child. 0:33:17.310 --> 0:33:19.620 And here's the conundrum for him how can the Messiah 0:33:19.620 --> 0:33:22.050 be born as a child, though his goings forth are 0:33:22.050 --> 0:33:25.110 from of ancient times, but be rejected, cut off, killed 0:33:25.110 --> 0:33:27.840 only to return again, and people realize he's the one 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:31.500 they pierced, and then explain it's not two different messiahs, 0:33:31.500 --> 0:33:34.170 it's two different comings. Which is what Peter was saying 0:33:34.170 --> 0:33:35.970 in that first Peter one passage. 0:33:36.090 --> 0:33:38.610 If you're just joining us, this is the land and 0:33:38.610 --> 0:33:42.780 the book from Moody Radio. Our host is Charlie Dyer, uh, pastor, 0:33:42.780 --> 0:33:45.780 an author, conference speaker, a guy who's been to Israel 0:33:45.780 --> 0:33:49.020 more than 100 times. I'm John Jaeger, tagging along, enjoying 0:33:49.020 --> 0:33:52.230 all of your questions like this one from Nancy, she 0:33:52.230 --> 0:33:54.750 says as I read about the offering system God ordered 0:33:54.750 --> 0:33:57.030 for Israel, it would seem that a huge amount of 0:33:57.030 --> 0:34:00.210 wood would be required for all of the burning. Was 0:34:00.210 --> 0:34:02.219 there a time when the country had large amounts of 0:34:02.220 --> 0:34:05.040 trees covering the land? On my tour of Israel, I 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.009 saw a nation largely barren of trees and by the way, 0:34:08.010 --> 0:34:10.319 whose job was it to bring in the wood to 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:11.819 the side of the offerings? 0:34:11.969 --> 0:34:14.940 Well, there definitely was more forested land in Israel in 0:34:14.940 --> 0:34:16.770 the past. And there's one passage, I think, that can 0:34:16.770 --> 0:34:19.950 help us with this. In Joshua 17, that's when they're 0:34:19.950 --> 0:34:23.070 assigning the land to the different tribes. And Joshua answers 0:34:23.070 --> 0:34:25.500 a complaint from the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. They 0:34:25.500 --> 0:34:27.690 felt they hadn't gotten enough land. Well, when you look 0:34:27.690 --> 0:34:29.730 at a map showing the land that they had received, 0:34:29.730 --> 0:34:32.730 it's actually quite large. But in answer to their complaint, 0:34:32.730 --> 0:34:36.030 Joshua says, you're numerous and very powerful. You will have 0:34:36.030 --> 0:34:39.420 not one allowance but the forested hill country as well. 0:34:39.420 --> 0:34:41.850 There it is, the forested hill country. Clear it and 0:34:41.850 --> 0:34:44.970 its farthest limits will be yours. So evidently the mountainous 0:34:44.969 --> 0:34:47.850 area in the center of the country was sparsely inhabited 0:34:47.850 --> 0:34:50.910 and covered in forests, in terms of whose job it 0:34:50.910 --> 0:34:53.910 was to bring in the wood. Well, in Joshua chapter nine, 0:34:53.910 --> 0:34:57.480 verse 27, when Joshua made the deal with the Gibeonites 0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.630 who tricked Israel into making a peace treaty, he required 0:35:00.630 --> 0:35:03.870 them to be woodcutters and water carriers for the community 0:35:03.870 --> 0:35:05.790 and for the altar of the Lord at the place 0:35:05.790 --> 0:35:08.250 the Lord would choose. So it was the gibeonites job 0:35:08.250 --> 0:35:10.140 to gather all that wood for the altar. 0:35:10.140 --> 0:35:13.470 I like this question. Fascinating. Do we know how many 0:35:13.469 --> 0:35:17.310 years the tabernacle was actually used? It seems like a 0:35:17.310 --> 0:35:20.310 miracle of God that the fabric curtains didn't wear out 0:35:20.310 --> 0:35:23.460 during all those years of putting up and taking down. 0:35:23.460 --> 0:35:25.230 Yeah, you know, all of our clothes seem to wear 0:35:25.230 --> 0:35:27.120 out fast. So how did all that fabric for the 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.029 tabernacle not wear out? Well, the tabernacle was built and 0:35:30.030 --> 0:35:32.370 placed in operation about a year after the exodus, so 0:35:32.370 --> 0:35:35.730 it should be around 1444 BC. We know it was 0:35:35.730 --> 0:35:37.860 set up in Shiloh and functioned there till the coming 0:35:37.860 --> 0:35:41.609 of Samuel. And Samuel was born around 1070 BC, so 0:35:41.610 --> 0:35:45.630 the tabernacle was around for three at least 375 years. 0:35:45.930 --> 0:35:50.160 Jewish tradition says the tabernacle was at Shiloh for 369. 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.890 And then add the time in the wilderness. That's probably 0:35:52.890 --> 0:35:55.620 a function for around 400 years. So how could the 0:35:55.620 --> 0:35:58.560 fabric last that long? Well, it's possible some parts of 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.050 the fabric did wear out and needed to be replaced, 0:36:01.050 --> 0:36:03.330 but we also know when it was at Shiloh, a 0:36:03.330 --> 0:36:06.200 more permanent structure was built. And I say that. Because 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.589 in first Samuel 315 we're told, Samuel opened the doors 0:36:09.590 --> 0:36:11.930 of the house of the Lord. It suggests that the 0:36:11.930 --> 0:36:14.900 tent housing, that holy place, the Holy of Holies, had 0:36:14.900 --> 0:36:17.540 been replaced with a structure that had an entry door 0:36:17.540 --> 0:36:20.060 rather than a tent flap. Now, the tent might have 0:36:20.060 --> 0:36:22.069 still been draped over the top. We just don't know. 0:36:22.070 --> 0:36:24.560 But there appears to be a more permanent building by 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.049 the time of Samuel, and that suggests to me that 0:36:27.050 --> 0:36:29.540 all the other materials might have been replaced as they 0:36:29.540 --> 0:36:30.500 were worn out. 0:36:30.530 --> 0:36:32.750 Well, you guys have certainly taken us all over the 0:36:32.750 --> 0:36:36.020 biblical map today with your questions, and we're grateful for it. 0:36:36.020 --> 0:36:38.750 We love this time and love chatting with you. Love 0:36:38.750 --> 0:36:41.960 answering your questions. Yours is welcome with a quick email 0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:46.580 to the land and the book at Moody Edu Charlie 0:36:46.580 --> 0:36:49.580 will read your question personally, answer it personally, send you 0:36:49.580 --> 0:36:51.980 back an email and then you'll be in the queue 0:36:51.980 --> 0:36:55.549 for a future broadcast. It's another great devotional from our host, 0:36:55.550 --> 0:37:13.000 Charlie Dyer. Next. Right here. Well, it's everybody's favorite time 0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.180 of year. Yeah. This week brings us tax day. Are 0:37:16.180 --> 0:37:19.420 you pumped? Are you excited? Are you ready? Are John 0:37:19.420 --> 0:37:22.450 Jager here? Pardon the foolishness, Charlie. I'm sure you had 0:37:22.450 --> 0:37:24.520 your stuff done weeks ago. Is that right? 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.160 I did, John, I'm. That's one of those. That's. It's 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.620 a game for me. It's therapy if you will, to 0:37:29.620 --> 0:37:31.360 get it all done and all in order and send 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:32.350 in all of which. 0:37:32.350 --> 0:37:37.000 Is sort of a rather circuitous route to today's devotional topic. 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.580 I love your title, A Fishy Tax Story. Where are 0:37:39.580 --> 0:37:41.350 we going in the scriptures? Well, we're. 0:37:41.350 --> 0:37:43.209 Heading to Matthew chapter 17. 0:37:43.210 --> 0:37:45.400 All right. It'll be a lot more pleasant, I guarantee, 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.710 than whatever you've got to do with taxes this week. 0:37:47.710 --> 0:37:51.580 We'll get to that devotional after this Holy Land experience. Testimony. 0:37:55.780 --> 0:37:59.710 Let me just say that as a follower of Jesus Christ, 0:37:59.920 --> 0:38:04.989 we are commanded to love what he loves. And there 0:38:04.989 --> 0:38:08.410 is no doubt from studying the Bible that God in 0:38:08.410 --> 0:38:12.460 Jesus Christ loved this land. Love the people in this land. 0:38:12.460 --> 0:38:15.970 And before I came here, of course, you know, we 0:38:15.969 --> 0:38:17.830 wanted to come here because we wanted to see what 0:38:17.830 --> 0:38:21.250 God loved. But now we've seen, we've seen the land. 0:38:21.250 --> 0:38:24.790 We've seen the people. We've seen so much that it 0:38:24.790 --> 0:38:28.180 is going to be now. Uh, of course we'll continue 0:38:28.180 --> 0:38:30.219 to love Israel, but we'll do it in a just 0:38:30.219 --> 0:38:33.700 a real way. And I'm looking forward to coming back. 0:38:33.700 --> 0:38:35.530 I don't know when that might happen or how that 0:38:35.530 --> 0:38:38.680 might happen, but I just know I of course, eventually 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:43.000 we'll all be here forever. That's true. But before then, 0:38:43.300 --> 0:38:45.759 if the Lord tarries out, I'm just looking forward to 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:46.690 the next trip. 0:38:48.690 --> 0:38:51.450 All right. Thank you so much, Charlie. I'm looking forward 0:38:51.450 --> 0:38:54.840 to your devotional in Matthew 17. Take it away. 0:38:54.989 --> 0:38:57.209 Well, thanks, John. And as John mentioned, this coming week 0:38:57.210 --> 0:38:59.880 is tax day. It's that wonderful time of the year 0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.640 when millions of tax returns have to be filled out 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.280 and mailed off to the Internal Revenue Service. In the 0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:08.910 modern version of render under Caesar the things which are Caesar's, 0:39:08.910 --> 0:39:10.739 and to help put us in the proper mood for 0:39:10.739 --> 0:39:14.490 our civic, legal and patriotic duty. We're traveling to Capernaum, 0:39:14.489 --> 0:39:17.730 on the northwestern shore of the Sea of Galilee. One 0:39:17.730 --> 0:39:20.969 of Jesus's 12 disciples had originally been a tax collector 0:39:20.969 --> 0:39:24.420 in Capernaum. Think of Matthew as the first century equivalent 0:39:24.420 --> 0:39:27.480 of an IRS agent. But by the time of our story, 0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.120 he had retired from government work to become a full 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:34.080 time follower of Jesus. In fact, the change was rather dramatic. 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.710 Having just healed a paralytic at Peter's house, Matthew himself 0:39:37.710 --> 0:39:41.190 records what happened next. Jesus saw a man named Matthew 0:39:41.190 --> 0:39:44.640 sitting at the tax collectors booth. Follow me, he told him, 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.489 and Matthew got up and followed him without so much 0:39:47.489 --> 0:39:50.130 as even a two week notice. Matthew went from the 0:39:50.130 --> 0:39:54.960 IRS to the IRS in his service. But now, in 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:59.069 Matthew 17, following a time of extensive ministry, we again 0:39:59.070 --> 0:40:02.339 find Jesus and the disciples back in Capernaum. And that's 0:40:02.340 --> 0:40:05.549 where this fishy tax story begins. But this time we 0:40:05.550 --> 0:40:10.230 encounter a different taxing authority, much like someone today paying federal, state, 0:40:10.230 --> 0:40:14.340 and sometimes even local taxes. So in Jesus's day, there 0:40:14.340 --> 0:40:17.489 were multiple taxing authorities. The Roman government was the most 0:40:17.489 --> 0:40:21.780 prominent and most despised, but the religious authorities also collected 0:40:21.780 --> 0:40:24.930 a tax for the upkeep of the temple. And it's functioning. 0:40:24.930 --> 0:40:28.350 And it's that taxing body that surprises Peter with a 0:40:28.350 --> 0:40:32.550 rather direct question. Matthew sets the scene this way. After 0:40:32.550 --> 0:40:35.940 Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of 0:40:35.940 --> 0:40:39.030 the two drachma tax came to Peter and asked, doesn't 0:40:39.030 --> 0:40:42.600 your teacher pay the temple tax? Caught somewhat off guard 0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:46.830 by the question, Peter didn't hesitate to respond. Yes, he does, 0:40:46.830 --> 0:40:50.910 he replied. Now Peter hadn't actually seen Jesus pay the tax, 0:40:50.910 --> 0:40:54.810 but he never hesitated in giving an authoritative answer, even 0:40:54.810 --> 0:40:57.810 if that answer might be wrong. When Peter finally made 0:40:57.810 --> 0:41:00.660 it back to the house where Jesus was staying, Jesus 0:41:00.660 --> 0:41:04.080 surprised him with an unusual question what do you think, Simon? 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.270 He asked, from whom do the kings of the earth 0:41:06.270 --> 0:41:10.200 collect duty and taxes from their own sons or from others? 0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.379 Peter might not have understood why Jesus was asking such 0:41:13.380 --> 0:41:16.170 an unusual question, but once again he was quick to 0:41:16.170 --> 0:41:20.819 provide an answer from others. Jesus then explained the significance 0:41:20.820 --> 0:41:23.640 of the answer the sons of the king are exempt 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.060 from paying taxes, and since the temple was God's house, 0:41:27.060 --> 0:41:30.330 God's Son was also not required to pay the tax. 0:41:30.330 --> 0:41:34.319 But Jesus followed his mild rebuke with a practical suggestion, 0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.989 but so that we may not offend them. Go to 0:41:36.989 --> 0:41:39.750 the lake and throw out your line. Take the first 0:41:39.750 --> 0:41:42.360 fish you catch, open its mouth and you will find 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.300 a four drachma coin. Take it and give it to 0:41:45.300 --> 0:41:49.500 them for my tax and yours. End of story or 0:41:49.500 --> 0:41:52.590 so it seems to us. But there's something fishy about 0:41:52.590 --> 0:41:55.680 that answer. Peter was a fisherman, and most of the 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:59.430 time fishermen around the Sea of Galilee used nets rather 0:41:59.430 --> 0:42:02.010 than a hook and a line. So is this some 0:42:02.010 --> 0:42:06.060 sort of practical joke on Jesus's part? It's not. But 0:42:06.060 --> 0:42:08.279 there is a joke from this story played out on 0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.730 most Christians who visit Israel and have a Saint Peter's 0:42:11.730 --> 0:42:15.420 fish lunch somewhere around the lake. It's a joke because 0:42:15.420 --> 0:42:18.839 the fish they eat wasn't the type caught by Peter. 0:42:18.870 --> 0:42:21.270 How do I know that? Well, it's not because of 0:42:21.270 --> 0:42:23.700 my love of fish or fishing, which, if you've listened 0:42:23.700 --> 0:42:27.930 to this program for any length of time, you already know. Know. 0:42:27.930 --> 0:42:30.750 For this bit of truth, I defer to Mendel Nuna, 0:42:30.750 --> 0:42:33.839 a Jewish kibbutz who fished the Sea of Galilee for 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:38.010 many years. Here's his insight. It's because of this miracle 0:42:38.010 --> 0:42:40.440 that the mushed that's the Hebrew name of the fish 0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:44.610 that's today called Saint Peter's fish was given. However, from 0:42:44.610 --> 0:42:47.100 the realistic point of view, and in contradiction to all 0:42:47.100 --> 0:42:50.100 accepted tradition, it cannot have been the fish caught by 0:42:50.100 --> 0:42:53.340 Peter with a hook and line in this famous miracle. 0:42:53.340 --> 0:42:57.030 The reason is simple the mush feeds on plankton and 0:42:57.030 --> 0:43:00.750 is not attracted by other food. It's therefore caught with nets, 0:43:00.750 --> 0:43:03.780 not with hook and line. The fishermen on the lake 0:43:03.780 --> 0:43:07.800 have since time immemorial used hook and line with sardine 0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.919 as bait to fish for barbells, which are predators and 0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.910 bottom feeders. So the Saint Peter mushed or tilapia being 0:43:14.910 --> 0:43:17.910 served at the Sea of Galilee likely isn't the fish 0:43:17.910 --> 0:43:20.460 Peter caught with a hook and line. But back to 0:43:20.460 --> 0:43:23.130 our fishy story. Peter threw in his line along the 0:43:23.130 --> 0:43:26.130 water's edge, wondering what would happen next, but he shouldn't 0:43:26.130 --> 0:43:29.340 have been surprised because Jesus told him exactly what would happen. 0:43:29.340 --> 0:43:32.130 He caught this bottom feeder and as he opened its 0:43:32.130 --> 0:43:35.609 mouth to retrieve the hook there, lodged inside was a 0:43:35.610 --> 0:43:39.360 four drachma coin. In Greek, it says he found a 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:44.040 small stater which was equivalent to four drachmas. The story 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.730 actually ends before Peter carries out Jesus's command. So. So 0:43:47.730 --> 0:43:50.580 some believe Peter didn't actually catch a fish or pay 0:43:50.580 --> 0:43:53.460 the tax. But if that's the case, why did Matthew 0:43:53.460 --> 0:43:56.069 include the story at all? I think it's better to 0:43:56.070 --> 0:43:59.610 simply assume Peter did as Jesus commanded, caught the fish, 0:43:59.610 --> 0:44:02.279 found the coin, and paid the tax. And by the way, 0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.890 a drachma was the equivalent of a denarius or a 0:44:04.890 --> 0:44:08.250 day's wages. The annual temple tax was the equivalent of 0:44:08.250 --> 0:44:11.759 two days wages, and the coin inside the fish's mouth 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:15.240 paid that tax for both Peter and Jesus. But as 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:16.680 we stand here on the shore of the Sea of 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.350 Galilee and Capernaum, we need to ask ourselves an even 0:44:19.350 --> 0:44:23.820 bigger question why did Matthew include this story? Certainly, his 0:44:23.820 --> 0:44:26.370 background as a tax collector might be part of the reason. 0:44:26.370 --> 0:44:29.700 But within this section of his gospel, Matthew focuses on 0:44:29.700 --> 0:44:33.480 Peter and Jesus five times. In chapter 14, he mentions 0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.550 that it was Peter who tried to walk on the 0:44:35.550 --> 0:44:39.180 water to Jesus. In chapter 15, it's Peter who asked 0:44:39.180 --> 0:44:42.570 Jesus to explain the parable to them. In chapter 16, 0:44:42.570 --> 0:44:46.050 Jesus blesses Peter for understanding who he was and then 0:44:46.050 --> 0:44:49.920 turns around and chastises Peter for denying Jesus's prediction of 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.520 his coming death. And then here in chapter 17, Jesus 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:55.980 explains to Peter why he didn't have to pay the 0:44:55.980 --> 0:44:59.700 temple tax because of his authority as God's Son. Whether 0:44:59.700 --> 0:45:02.520 or not Peter understood it at the time, Jesus was 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.700 discipling him in a special way to help Peter master 0:45:05.700 --> 0:45:09.060 the lessons of living a godly life in a hostile world. 0:45:09.060 --> 0:45:12.479 So did Peter master those lessons? I think the answer 0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:15.630 can be found in first Peter two. There Peter wrote, 0:45:15.630 --> 0:45:19.470 submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted 0:45:19.469 --> 0:45:22.469 among men, whether to the king as the supreme authority, 0:45:22.469 --> 0:45:24.810 or to governors who are sent by him to punish 0:45:24.810 --> 0:45:27.540 those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 0:45:27.540 --> 0:45:30.270 For it is God's will that by doing good you 0:45:30.270 --> 0:45:33.840 should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men. Live as 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:35.730 free men, but do not use your freedom as a 0:45:35.730 --> 0:45:38.880 cover up for evil. Live as servants of God. Show 0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:43.709 proper respect to everyone. Love the brotherhood of believers. Fear God, 0:45:43.710 --> 0:45:47.010 honor the King. And that brings us back to Tax 0:45:47.010 --> 0:45:50.040 Day and the IRS. What does God want from his 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:53.790 followers today? He wants us to submit to civil authority 0:45:53.790 --> 0:45:56.430 and to do what's right in God's eyes. Or as 0:45:56.430 --> 0:46:00.180 Peter says, fear God and honor the King. So finish 0:46:00.180 --> 0:46:03.029 up those forms and get them mailed or sent electronically 0:46:03.030 --> 0:46:05.670 by the deadline. And then thank God for being able 0:46:05.670 --> 0:46:07.950 to do good and not use your freedom as a 0:46:07.950 --> 0:46:11.430 cover up for evil. Oh yeah, and when you're done, 0:46:11.430 --> 0:46:14.160 stop by your nearest fish joint for a fish sandwich. 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:16.350 Or if you're like me, head out for a Saint 0:46:16.350 --> 0:46:20.549 Peter's pizza. Or maybe even a Saint Peter's grilled chicken sandwich. 0:46:21.090 --> 0:46:23.430 They all sound good to me. Charlie. 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