WEBVTT - Hour 2: Christmas Bible Questions

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<v S1>Hello, friends. It's time for the second hour of Open

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<v S1>Line with me. Michael Zelnick. This is Moody Radio's Bible

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<v S1>Study Across America, where we're taking your questions about the Bible, God,

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<v S1>and the spiritual life. I'm, uh, my name, as I said,

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<v S1>is Michael Zelnick. I'm the academic dean here at Moody

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<v S1>Bible Institute. I teach Jewish studies and Bible, and we're

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<v S1>live today sitting around the radio kitchen table talking about

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<v S1>your questions. So it's time to give me a call.

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<v S1>People often say, when can I get my call in?

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<v S1>I'd like to call, but it's always busy at the

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<v S1>beginning of the hour. Right now is the time to

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<v S1>call (877) 548-3675. That's (877) 548-3675. Beginning of the hour's best time

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<v S1>to call. That's a trick. There's some guy that always

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<v S1>wanted to call. I always think it's funny. He wanted

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<v S1>to call from Florida every week. A minute before the

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<v S1>program began, I would see the flashing light over there.

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<v S1>He was calling. He knew the beginning of the hour.

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<v S1>That's when to call. (877) 548-3675. If you can't call, just

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<v S1>go to our website, Open Line radio.org. You can scroll down.

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<v S1>You'll see a link there. It says Ask Michael a question.

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<v S1>You click on that. And that will take you to

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<v S1>a page where you can post your question. And Trish

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<v S1>will put it in the mailbag, and then we'll talk

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<v S1>about it on the air. So that's open line radio.org.

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<v S1>All the other links there I think you'll find helpful

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<v S1>as well. Uh anyway, I hope you have your Bible open.

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<v S1>Hope you have a second cup of coffee, because we're

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<v S1>ready to talk about the scriptures. And we're going to

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<v S1>talk with Roger in Minnesota, listening on KBW and also

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<v S1>listening on the Moody Radio app. Welcome to Open Line. Roger.

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<v S1>How can I help you today?

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<v S2>Um, thank you for taking my call. Um, I had

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<v S2>a thing happen to me. I was on Facebook about

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<v S2>a week ago or so, and I was I posted

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<v S2>a couple of positive things about the election, and, uh,

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<v S2>a classmate that I haven't really talked to since high

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<v S2>school popped on, and he started saying that I was crazy. And, uh,

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<v S2>the president elect has the Antichrist. And so that triggered

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<v S2>me thinking. I started asking him, well, how do you

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<v S2>know about the Antichrist? Have you been reading the Bible?

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<v S2>And he said, no, I don't read that stuff. And

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<v S2>I gave him my testimony and he says, well, you're

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<v S2>believing a lie. And I said that, um, no, I'm

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<v S2>not believing a lie. And I told him about a

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<v S2>couple of miracles in particular that.

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<v S1>Well, Roger, Roger, Roger, just just go ahead with a question,

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<v S1>if that's okay.

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<v S2>Oh. I'm sorry. Okay. Um, uh, it turns out that

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<v S2>he mellowed out and put a heart up. And he said,

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<v S2>I see where you're coming from. I've been hard on you.

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<v S2>And I said that, well, I, um, I want to

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<v S2>reach out to you. And, um, where do I go

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<v S2>from here without saying something stupid or, you know, and

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<v S2>but using scripture.

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<v S1>So now that's not the question we have on the,

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<v S1>on the screen here. Uh, okay.

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<v S2>I'm kind of nervous about the whole thing too, but.

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<v S1>Okay. Uh, let me ask you this. What I would

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<v S1>do is always maintain a relationship. I'll answer the question

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<v S1>you asked. Maintain a relationship. I like to think, uh,

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<v S1>it's really important when we share our faith to do it.

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<v S1>I like an agricultural model. You know, the first thing

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<v S1>you do when you're going to grow something is you

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<v S1>break up the soil, you, you, and then you sow

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<v S1>seed in it. And then the third part is so

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<v S1>you have cultivation of the soil, sowing the seed, weeding it.

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<v S1>And then finally reaping, letting it grow and reaping a harvest.

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<v S1>So the the first part of cultivating the soil is

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<v S1>with relationship of friendship. That's it. That's what what breaks

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<v S1>up the soil and allows the seed to be sown.

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<v S1>So I would start with keeping that relationship open. Keep

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<v S1>talking with him. Uh, periodically raise a flag, identify as

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<v S1>a believer, talk about an answer to prayer. Talk about

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<v S1>something God is doing in your life and see if

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<v S1>he is wanting to hear more. If he is, then

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<v S1>what you get to do is sow seed. Uh, well,

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<v S1>arguing is probably not the best, but it depends. You know, I,

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<v S1>I had a relationship with Hilda Kozar and we argued

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<v S1>through the scriptures. Uh, you look at acts 17, Paul

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<v S1>argued in the synagogues over whether or not Jesus is

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<v S1>the Messiah. So it's not hostilely arguing, but engaging with

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<v S1>each other. That's, I think, important. One of the things

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<v S1>when when you sow seed, the very first thing that

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<v S1>happens is weeds come up. That's objections. And that's when

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<v S1>you you clear out those weeds. You're answering those objections

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<v S1>which could be perceived by some as arguing, but just

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<v S1>answering those objections. And then finally, when you'll perceive when

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<v S1>a person's getting ready, you ask them what's keeping them

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<v S1>from trusting in Jesus. And they might say this or that.

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<v S1>You might answer those objections, but, you know, give them time,

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<v S1>and that will be the way to encourage someone to

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<v S1>make a decision. If they say, I can't think of

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<v S1>anything keeping me from trusting in Jesus, then you say, well,

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<v S1>let's do that right now. How about that? So and

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<v S1>by the way, if you're listening and people have been

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<v S1>sowing seed in your life, what's keeping you from trusting

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<v S1>in Jesus right now? All you have to do is

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<v S1>tell them, I know I've done things wrong, but God

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<v S1>sent the Messiah, Jesus, who died for my sins and

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<v S1>rose again put my trust. I put my trust in him.

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<v S1>And if you'll do that right now, there should be

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<v S1>nothing keeping you from doing that if you put your

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<v S1>trust in him. I just love it. A forever. A

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<v S1>forever forgiven relationship with God taking us through this life

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<v S1>and into the next. What a great, great privilege. So anyway,

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<v S1>thanks for your call, Roger. Really appreciate it. Uh, we're

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<v S1>going to talk with Alice in Pompano, Pompano Beach, Florida,

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<v S1>listening on Wrnb. Welcome to Open Line. Alice. How can

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<v S1>I help you?

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<v S3>Hi. I just had two points I wanted to make

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<v S3>and see if you agree with them. The first is

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<v S3>on repentance, and people seem to extend it out to

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<v S3>mean something besides change your mind. The Bible says God repented.

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<v S3>So as far as I'm concerned, you know in either

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<v S3>language it would be change your mind. But the other

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<v S3>thing is um, regarding salvation. Like people say, it's God's gift,

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<v S3>but they don't give him full credit for the payment.

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<v S3>They think they have to commit their lives to follow Christ.

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<v S3>Ask them in their heart. Confess like those things are

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<v S3>for service. They have nothing to do with free salvation.

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<v S3>When you believe, you get salvation.

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<v S1>Okay, Alice, let me just explain. Uh, first of all,

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<v S1>what repentance is. Repentance in the New Testament means change

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<v S1>your mind. So, for example, in acts three, when, uh,

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<v S1>speaking to a crowd of Jewish people who had rejected Jesus,

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<v S1>Peter says, repent, change your mind. You rejected him as Messiah.

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<v S1>Accept him now as the Messiah. So that's metanoia. There's

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<v S1>another word that's used both in the Hebrew Bible of

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<v S1>turn and in the in the New Testament as well,

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<v S1>means to turn. And what that refers to is turn

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<v S1>away from what you used to trust and turn to

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<v S1>the one you do you now trust. So faith and

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<v S1>repentance are two sides of the same coin. I think

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<v S1>a great example of that usage is in First Thessalonians

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<v S1>chapter one, where it talks about Paul's describing the Thessalonians,

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<v S1>and he talks about how they came to faith. And

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<v S1>what he says is that they turned from idols. Here

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<v S1>it is. Ready. Uh, they said he says in verse nine,

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<v S1>first Thessalonians one nine for they they themselves report what

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<v S1>kind of reception we had from you, how you turned

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<v S1>to God from idols to serve the living and true God,

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<v S1>and to wait for his son. So what did they do?

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<v S1>They turned to God. But what did they also do?

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<v S1>They turned away from idols. And so, in a sense,

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<v S1>faith is turning to God, trusting in what Jesus has provided,

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<v S1>his death and his resurrection And repentance is turning away

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<v S1>from that which we used to trust our own good deeds,

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<v S1>our own righteousness, anything like that. Okay. I appreciate the call, Alice. Uh,

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<v S1>thanks so much. Uh, we're going to talk to, uh,

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<v S1>Wilburn in Akron, Ohio, listening on Wkjf. Welcome to Open Line. Wilburn.

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<v S4>Yes. How are you doing, doctor? Uh, I know it

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<v S4>may be early. Happy hanukkah. Thank you. Shalom. Thank you. Yeah.

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<v S1>To you as well.

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<v S4>My question. Okay. My question is from Galatians when God

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<v S4>says the Bible says Paul, God is not mocked. We

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<v S4>must show what we reap. So the reaping process. Now,

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<v S4>do we do that on our own, or can God

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<v S4>still be with us? Or just like since we don't

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<v S4>mock God, you know, like he just leaves us, you know,

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<v S4>like to reap whatever it is, whether it's good or

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<v S4>bad on our own.

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<v S5>Well, sir.

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<v S1>I don't think reaping is something that we choose to do.

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<v S1>Here's what the let's read the whole verse. So you

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<v S1>see what it's saying. It says, don't be deceived. God

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<v S1>is not mocked. Whatever a man sows, he will also reap. Well,

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<v S1>what is he talking about? Sowing? Because the one who

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<v S1>sows to his flesh will reap corruption from the flesh,

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<v S1>but the one who sows to the spirit will reap

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<v S1>eternal life from the spirit. So the the point is

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<v S1>that what are we feeding in our lives? Are we

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<v S1>feeding our spirit or that's sowing? Are we feeding, uh,

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<v S1>our flesh? Uh, what are we inputting? You know, the

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<v S1>old computer principle. Garbage in, garbage out. That's all this is.

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<v S1>If we if we if we fill our mind with trash,

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<v S1>watch movies that are corrupting. If we read books that

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<v S1>harm us, if we, uh, spend, I think a lot

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<v S1>of time on the internet. The result will be it

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<v S1>will corrupt our souls. The consequence? That's what we we.

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<v S1>That's what reaping is. What's the consequence of that? Our

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<v S1>behavior will reflect that corruption. However, if we read scripture,

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<v S1>if we renew our minds, if we listen to spiritual music,

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<v S1>if we, uh, if we input into our mind things

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<v S1>that are of value, like Philippians four talks about anything

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<v S1>of excellence, then what will will have a harvest of

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<v S1>righteousness and eternal life? So that's that's what that's talking about.

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<v S1>So appreciate the call. Wilburn. Thank you so much. We're

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<v S1>going to take a break here. When we come back

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<v S1>we'll talk about your questions. Again the number (877) 548-3675. My

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<v S1>name is Michael Radonich. This is open line on the

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<v S1>Moody Radio. All across Moody Radio. So stay with us.

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<v S1>We'll be right back.

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<v UU>Emmanuel. Emmanuel. Emmanuel. Emmanuel. Wonderful counselor, Lord of life. Lord

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<v UU>of all. He is the Prince of Peace.

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<v S1>Ah! One of my favorite passages from Scripture put to

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<v S1>song Isaiah nine six. Uh, and that's actually one of

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<v S1>the passages we'll be studying when we do a special

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<v S1>Christmas Bible study. It'll be Chris favorite, and Tricia McMillan

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<v S1>and Eva Wright and me will be studying passages from

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<v S1>the Book of Isaiah that foretell the coming of the Messiah.

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<v S1>That'll be one of them. I hope you'll be listening.

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<v S1>A couple of weeks from now on, a special pre-recorded

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<v S1>open line. Uh, also, uh, I it's kind of like

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<v S1>carols here at Moody Bible Institute this weekend. It's one

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<v S1>of the great productions that Moody does. We love it here.

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<v S1>And it's just wonderful. And, uh, one of the encouraging

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<v S1>things is I met some kitchen table partners on the

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<v S1>Journeys of Paul tour that I went on in September,

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<v S1>and they are going to they drove up from other

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<v S1>states and they are here for the weekend, and they're

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<v S1>going to Candlelight Carols, and I'm going to meet up

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<v S1>with some of our kitchen table partners tonight. I'm pretty

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<v S1>excited about that. What's a kitchen table partner? It's people

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<v S1>who commit to give monthly so we can stay on

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<v S1>the air weekly. And one of the things I like

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<v S1>to do is I send every other week a special

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<v S1>Bible study moment right into their mailbox, their email box,

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<v S1>and then they click on that, get to hear a

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<v S1>little Bible study for about 5 or 7 minutes. and

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<v S1>I love producing those. Eva helps me with those quite

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<v S1>to the phones now. Uh, we're going to talk to

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<v S1>Barbara in Chicago listening on Wmbi, our flagship station. Welcome

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<v S1>to Open Line. Barbara. Hi.

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<v S6>Thank you. Michael, um, I was wondering when the angel

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<v S6>came to Mary and told her that she should call

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<v S6>her son Jesus. Is that the origin of the name? Uh,

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<v S6>is it the Greek origin? Because I know the Jews

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<v S6>call Jesus Yeshua. Why aren't we calling Jesus Yeshua too?

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<v S1>Well, in the event, I'm sure the angels spoke Aramaic

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<v S1>or Hebrew with Mary and said, Yeshua, because that's the

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<v S1>Hebrew name. Uh, it's like Joshua. That's really that's really

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<v S1>what it is. Yehoshua uh, or shortened form Yeshua salvation.

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<v S1>And so that's what I'm sure was said, however, when

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<v S1>the Gospels were written in Greek.

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<v S7>I don't have my phone right now.

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<v S1>We're at a drive up window right now. There we are. So. Okay, Barbara.

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<v S1>So when the Bibles were written in Greek, they the

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<v S1>gospel was written. The Gospels were written in Greek. They

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<v S1>used the name Jesus, which is the Greek word for Yeshua.

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<v S1>They just used the Greek word, the Greek transliteration Jesus.

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<v S1>And then when it was translated into English, Jesus became Jesus.

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<v S1>That's it. It's it's just going from one language to

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<v S1>another language to another language. And that's how it goes

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<v S1>from Yeshua to Jesus to Jesus. That's what we've got. And, uh,

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<v S1>you know, I feel comfortable calling him Yeshua. That's probably

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<v S1>if it wouldn't shock everyone in the radio audience, I

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<v S1>would probably call him Yeshua 100% of the time, because

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<v S1>that's even when I read my Bible and I see Jesus,

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<v S1>I see Yeshua. When I see Christ, I say Messiah.

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<v S1>That's that's just natural to me. Partially because I was

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<v S1>raised in a Jewish home. And honestly, I thought the

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<v S1>name Jesus Christ was a first and a last name.

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<v S1>You know, like Joseph, Christ, Mary, Christ. And they had

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<v S1>a little baby boy named Jesus Christ. I didn't have

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<v S1>any idea that Christ meant Messiah. So when I first

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<v S1>heard the gospel and heard that the name or the

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<v S1>title Christus meant Messiah, I'm like, ah! And I really

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<v S1>prefer that because that's who I was looking for. I

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<v S1>was looking for the Messiah. Every Jewish person is longing

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<v S1>for the coming of the Messiah. So but, you know,

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<v S1>I kind of adapt to the culture of our listeners.

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<v S1>And I say the Lord Jesus and and I'm happy

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<v S1>with that. Uh, you know, God understands whatever word we use.

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<v S1>That's fine. Now, I will caution you. There's a lot

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<v S1>of people out there saying that his Hebrew name is Yeshua,

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<v S1>and that is a corruption. It is not right. It's

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<v S1>they say it's the combination of the your the name

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<v S1>of God, Yahweh and Shua, which I don't know what

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<v S1>they're saying it is. That's not what it's Yeshua. Uh,

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<v S1>y e s uh y e lead to it again.

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<v S1>Y e s h ü and that's that's what I would, uh,

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<v S1>you know, if you're going to call him by his

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<v S1>Hebrew name. That's it. Okay.

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<v S6>Okay. Thank you so much, Michael.

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<v S1>Yeah. Thank you so much for calling Barbara. Uh, Randy

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<v S1>in Indiana, listening on WGN. Ah, welcome to Open Line.

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<v S1>How can I help you?

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<v S8>Hey. Good morning Michael. Thank you for taking my call.

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<v S8>I have a question for you. I'm sort of, uh,

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<v S8>learning Christian. And, uh, when we get to heaven, are

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<v S8>we going to know, like, our parents? Are we going

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<v S8>to recognize them as our parents, or are we going

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<v S8>to recognize our siblings or grandfather or grandmother? Uh, that

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<v S8>sort of, uh, confusing to me a little bit there. Well.

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<v S1>I'll give you a couple of reasons why I think, yes,

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<v S1>we will recognize people, uh, in Luke 16. And it's

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<v S1>a parable. I recognize this the parable of Lazarus and

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<v S1>the rich man. But the rich man, even though he

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<v S1>is separated from Lazarus and and suffering, whereas Lazarus is

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<v S1>finding comfort at Abraham's bosom, the the rich man recognizes

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<v S1>Abraham as Abraham. People say, how did he know it

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<v S1>was Abraham? I maybe name tags, I don't know. But

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<v S1>the thing is, he was recognizable. And also in First

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<v S1>Thessalonians chapter four, it talks about the great reunion that's

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<v S1>going to take place when the dead in Christ shall

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<v S1>rise first, and we who are alive and remain are translated,

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<v S1>and we'll meet them in the air, and so will

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<v S1>be together with them forever. So it does appear that

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<v S1>there's a great reunion that happens at the rapture. And

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<v S1>so I think that when we if we die and

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<v S1>go to heaven, we see them before that rapture that yes,

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<v S1>indeed will will recognize them. Okay.

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<v S8>Well, I appreciate that. Thank you very much.

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<v S1>Thank you for asking. Uh, call again. Thanks a lot. Uh,

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<v S1>we're we're going to talk with Adrian in Florida listening

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<v S1>on R&amp;B. Welcome to Open Line. Adrian.

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<v S9>Hi. Thank you for taking my call. Um, I was

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<v S9>just reading how God spoke through Nathan to David when

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<v S9>he said, I will build you a house. And then

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<v S9>with the incident with Bathsheba. I was just wondering why

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<v S9>God never spoke to David directly where he was a

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<v S9>man after his own heart. But then he spoke to

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<v S9>Solomon and other kings that that weren't as close to

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<v S9>to God as David.

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<v S1>Well, he didn't really speak to Solomon. He spoke to

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<v S1>Solomon in a dream.

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<v S5>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v S1>So there's only one prophet through to whom God spoke

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<v S1>face to face. That was Moses and Moses was promised

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<v S1>that God would send a prophet like him to Israel.

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<v S1>That would be the Messiah, the Lord Jesus. Deuteronomy 18

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<v S1>predicts that. And so why it is that he chose

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<v S1>to speak to David through a prophet, but chose to

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<v S1>speak to Solomon through a dream? No clue. Uh, you know, uh,

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<v S1>I don't think there's anything in Scripture that would tell

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<v S1>us why, other than God is sovereign and decides to

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<v S1>do whatever he wants to do. Okay.

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<v S5>Okay. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

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<v S1>Yeah. Okay. Thanks for calling, Adrian. Appreciate it. Uh, Joni

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<v S1>in Nashville, Tennessee. Welcome, listener. Welcome to Open Line. How

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<v S1>can I help you today?

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<v S10>Um, yeah.

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<v S11>I was I've been listening, and I am just very curious.

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<v S11>Where did evil come from? Has it always existed? Just

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<v S11>like God?

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<v S1>No evil. Evil is not tangible, you know.

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<v S11>Well, neither. Neither is God at this point.

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<v S1>Well, the what I mean, he's not evil, is not

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<v S1>a being, is what I'm saying. Uh oh.

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<v S11>Okay.

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<v S5>You know.

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<v S1>Uh, God is an eternal being, and he always existed. Uh,

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<v S1>in fact, there was no such thing as a beginning

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<v S1>until God created beginnings. Uh, but where did.

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<v S11>Evil come from?

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<v S5>Well.

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<v S1>You know, uh, I'll do my best to try to

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<v S1>answer that. I'm not sure that anyone has the best

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<v S1>answer for that. Uh, but God isn't the author of evil. Uh, and, uh,

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<v S1>and that's really important, uh, for us to know that God,

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<v S1>God didn't create evil. Okay. Uh, Now it does say

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<v S1>in Isaiah 45 that this is a verse that some

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<v S1>people cite as God creating evil. Uh, it says in

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<v S1>Isaiah 45, um, I got to look it up. Uh,

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<v S1>that in verse seven it says, I form light.

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<v S5>And.

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<v S1>Create darkness. I make success and create. And the Hebrew

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<v S1>word is there for evil. So God creates evil. People say,

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<v S1>but in context it just means disasters that God is

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<v S1>in charge of even of of of the tumults in

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<v S1>the world. If there's a tsunami or something like that,

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<v S1>that God is still in charge of that. Uh, so

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<v S1>I don't think God created moral evil. This is how

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<v S1>I understand where it came from in Ezekiel 28. This

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<v S1>is the beginning of evil. Uh, its its first talking

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<v S1>to the king of tyre, and then it goes to

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<v S1>the power behind the king of tyre, which was Satan.

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<v S1>And it says the reason I know its not the

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<v S1>king of tyre any longer. It says you were the

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<v S1>seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.

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<v S11>Can you tell me where you are? Ezekiel 28.

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<v S5>What?

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<v S1>Verse 12 God says to the king, are you there?

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<v S5>Yeah.

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<v S1>Okay. You are the seal of perfection, full of wisdom,

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<v S1>perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God. Well,

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<v S1>the King of tyre never was in the Garden of Eden. Uh,

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<v S1>so this is talking to to the one behind him. Uh,

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<v S1>every kind of precious stone covered you, and it mentions them. Uh,

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<v S1>and then it says in verse 14 you were an

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<v S1>anointed guardian cherub. So he was an angelic being. For

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<v S1>I had appointed you. You were on the holy mountain

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<v S1>of God. You walked among the fiery stones from the

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<v S1>day you were created. This is verse 15. You were

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<v S1>blameless in your ways until wickedness was found in you.

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<v S1>Where did that come from? It came from Lucifer, from

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<v S1>this evil one. God didn't create that. It was found

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<v S1>in him. Did God allow it? Obviously. But that's the first.

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<v S1>That's the beginning of evil, as far as I can tell,

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<v S1>was when Satan fell.

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<v S5>Okay. Okay.

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<v S11>All right. So. Well, my, my, that's that's perfect. And

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<v S11>I've read that passage and that's kind of what I

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<v S11>had thought. But then when, I don't know, I was

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<v S11>listening to you talk to other people, and the whole

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<v S11>subject of evil came up, and I was thrown for

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<v S11>a loop. Yeah. I always thought that evil was like

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<v S11>it wasn't a thing, but it. But it has to exist.

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<v S11>Just like a hole exists in dirt, but without the dirt,

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<v S11>there's no hole.

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<v S1>Yeah, the thing is that it didn't exist before Satan fell.

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<v S1>So don't don't know how it happened. You know, I

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<v S1>just I know that we don't have every answer. I'll

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<v S1>give you Deuteronomy 2929. Why don't you look that up?

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<v S1>I'll read it when we come back. Thanks for your call, Johnny.

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<v S1>I really appreciate it. We'll be right back with more

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<v S1>of your questions. Right here on Open Line.

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<v UU>With Michael Radelet. Oh, man named John the.

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<v S12>Baptist had been heralding the news about the coming of

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<v S12>a savior for both the Gentiles.

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<v UU>And the Jews. And it happened in Judea, in the

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<v UU>town of Bethlehem.

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<v S12>With a bright star or the stable.

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<v S1>Well, there's that great song by Kathy Mattea. Check out

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<v S1>her Christmas album. One of the best Christmas albums I

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<v S1>think ever made. And it's a great reminder he came.

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<v S1>That song begins by talking that the Messiah came for

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<v S1>both the Gentiles and the Jews. And I want to

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<v S1>encourage you to remember that when the Lord Jesus came,

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<v S1>he was the light to the Gentiles and the glory

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<v S1>of his people, Israel. So.

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<v S5>Amen.

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<v S1>Tahira Haynes is going to join me in just a

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<v S1>moment with the mailbag. I did want to remind us

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<v S1>all about Deuteronomy uh, 29, verse 29. Uh, the last caller,

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<v S1>I said, there's some things that we have to just

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<v S1>trust God to know. Deuteronomy 2929. The hidden things belong

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<v S1>to the Lord our God, but the revealed things belong

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<v S1>to us and to our children forever, so that we

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<v S1>may know and follow all the words of this instruction.

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<v S1>Now what is this saying? Some things God knows and

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<v S1>we'll never know. But he revealed what we need to know.

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<v S1>He revealed that we need to choose good and reject

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<v S1>the evil. He didn't reveal where evil came from. I

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<v S1>just am drawing what I can from Scripture and I

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<v S1>won't go further than that. Don't go beyond that which

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<v S1>is written, is what Paul says. Uh, one of the

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<v S1>interesting things I was reading, actually, this is kind of

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<v S1>a I was reading a book with Eva about by D.L.

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<v S1>Moody about how to study the scriptures. And, uh, D.L.

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<v S1>Moody told the this story about a guy named, uh, Talmadge. Uh,

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<v S1>here's what he says. Talmadge was bothering professor DeWitt with

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<v S1>questions about the Bible and God and and wanting to

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<v S1>know things that couldn't be known. The professor said, Mr. Tallmadge,

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.960
<v S1>you'll have to let God know some things that you don't.

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<v S1>And I love that. I love that. So there are

0:28:31.230 --> 0:28:33.450
<v S1>some things we just don't know. God knows. And I'm

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<v S1>going to be happy with that. So, uh, also, uh,

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<v S1>I did want to mention that, you know, it's the

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<v S1>from the Moody Bible Commentary. And now to hear us

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<v S1>hear with the with the mailbag, you have a lot

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<v S1>of questions there. I'm sorry I had to take up

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<v S1>your time with all those things.

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<v S13>No, thank you so much. And we really do love

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<v S13>our listeners. And we could not do what we do

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<v S13>without our listeners. So thank you, everyone. And, um, we

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<v S13>do have some questions. Our first question is from Melanie

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<v S13>in California, and she listens. She uses the podcast. She says,

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<v S13>I am a listener of Moody Radio and a fellow

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<v S13>follower of Jesus Christ. From my understanding of Scripture, Zechariah

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<v S13>and Elizabeth are descendants from the line of Aaron, a Levite.

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<v S13>Elizabeth and Mary are cousins, making merry. A Levite, Joseph,

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<v S13>Mary's husband, is from the line of David, who is

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<v S13>from the tribe of Judah. How is Jesus considered to

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<v S13>be from the seed of David? Well.

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<v S1>According to his by rights, he's got the authority to

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<v S1>rule on the throne of David, because he was adopted

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<v S1>by Joseph, and because he was adopted by Joseph wasn't

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<v S1>his physical father, but adopted by him. And you can

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<v S1>read the the lineage or the genealogy in Matthew one.

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<v S1>And that shows where how it goes from David to Solomon,

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<v S1>and then down all the way to Joseph. Okay. So

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<v S1>he's the son of David, in that sense, adopted through

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<v S1>his father, Joseph. If you read the lineage or the

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<v S1>genealogy in Luke three, that's really Mary's genealogy. And it

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<v S1>says that she's from the line of David through Nathan

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<v S1>all the way down to marry and and heli. There

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<v S1>is Joseph's father in law. Not it says his father,

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<v S1>but it's Ellie is actually. Or Ellie is actually the

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<v S1>father in law of Joseph. So it has Mary's genealogy.

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<v S1>And then it goes to Joseph. Ellie, the father of Joseph.

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<v S1>It's the father in law of Joseph. So that's Mary's genealogy.

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<v S1>How can Elizabeth? Elizabeth was also probably from the line

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<v S1>of David family of David. But she married Zechariah outside

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<v S1>of her tribe. He was from the priestly tribe. Not

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<v S1>not Elizabeth. Or it's possible that Elizabeth's parents, her father

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<v S1>was a priest, and her mother had been from the

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<v S1>line of David and married in there somewhere back that way. But, uh,

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<v S1>likely she was from the line of David as well,

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<v S1>the family of David, and had married into a priestly line.

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<v S13>Thank you for explaining that, and for tying Elizabeth into

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<v S13>the story as well. Thank you.

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<v S5>Yeah.

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<v S1>I hope that answered it, I hope so.

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<v S13>Yeah. And thank you, Melanie, for that question. We have

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<v S13>another question from Susan in Idaho who listens via Kmbi.

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<v S13>What is the birth order of Noah's sons in Genesis

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<v S13>924 it says the youngest son. And is that referring

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<v S13>to him or to the youngest grandson? Cainan?

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<v S5>Well.

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<v S1>This is one of those things where, uh, let me

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<v S1>read you the verse. It's not talking about Cainan. Cainan

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<v S1>was the grandson of Noah. Noah, the son of Ham. Uh,

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<v S1>but in 918, it says Noah's sons who came out

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<v S1>of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Ham was

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<v S1>the father of Canaan. So that's what we know. Shem,

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<v S1>Ham and Japheth. People think that because Japheth is mentioned third,

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<v S1>he's the youngest. Could be. Doesn't necessarily have to be.

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<v S1>But then in 924 it says, uh, praise the Lord

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<v S1>God of Shem. Conan will be his slave. God will.

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<v S1>I'm sorry. I'm reading the wrong verse. When Noah awoke

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<v S1>from his drinking and learned what his youngest son had

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<v S1>done to him, well, his youngest son clearly is Ham,

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<v S1>the father of Canaan. That's what he had done. So

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<v S1>maybe when the names are listed, they're not listed in

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<v S1>birth order. That's one possibility. The other possibility is here

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<v S1>in verse 24, Noah woke from his drinking and learned

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<v S1>what his the Hebrew could just as well mean his

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<v S1>younger son, meaning younger than Shem. Okay, but not necessarily youngest.

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<v S1>So that that could be it as well. I, I don't,

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<v S1>I don't know what the answer is, but it's one

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<v S1>of those two.

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<v S5>Thank you. Okay.

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<v S13>Thank you thank you Susan as well. And then also

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<v S13>we have Lori, who sent a question via Facebook. When

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<v S13>Satan was evicted from heaven, God allowed him to be

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<v S13>the prince on earth. Where did the angels who were

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<v S13>with him go? Are they also on earth tempting and

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<v S13>terrorizing people, believers and non-believers alike?

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<v S1>Well, I don't know. That's not how I describe demonic works,

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<v S1>but I think that basically most of the demons are

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<v S1>the angels that fell with him, became demons, and they are,

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<v S1>you know, up to their malice and malicious works. That's

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<v S1>what they're doing. I see them right now. They've been

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<v S1>tempting Chris, our engineer, this whole hour, uh, trying to

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<v S1>get the right time for when we're going to come in, so. So, no,

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<v S1>I don't think that was demons. I think that was

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<v S1>just normal. Uh, but, uh, The. The interesting thing is that, uh,

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<v S1>the we don't know, there's some that are, uh, at

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<v S1>the abyss, they're unleashed in the tribulation period, and they're

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<v S1>bound from the time that they feld up until the

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<v S1>future tribulation. So God bound some of them for a while.

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<v S1>Others are active. We see them operative in the Gospels.

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<v S1>We see demons operative, uh, in the book of Daniel,

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<v S1>for example, Daniel chapter ten, the Prince of Persia is

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<v S1>a demon. Uh, an angel that fell. So that's what

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<v S1>they're doing. They're just one third of the angels fell

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<v S1>with Satan, and they're they're they're making trouble. That's what

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<v S1>they're doing, by the way. You know, one of my

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<v S1>favorite books. Have you read The Screwtape Letters?

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<v S13>I have not read.

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<v S1>That by C.S. Lewis. It's a wonderful book, and it's

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<v S1>a fictional account of letters from a senior tempter to

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<v S1>his nephew, a junior tempter named Wormwood. So Uncle Screwtape

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<v S1>writes to Wormwood, his nephew, and it's all about how

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<v S1>he should try to tempt his first of all, this man.

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<v S1>And then finally, when he becomes a Christian, not the

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<v S1>not the demon, but the demon has to now deal

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<v S1>with the man becoming a Christian. And what does he

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<v S1>try to do to harm him? And at times it's

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<v S1>funny and sometimes it's very insightful. Uh, it's it's a

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<v S1>it's a great book. And I really encourage you, if

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<v S1>you want to know the, the wiles of the enemy

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<v S1>about what he's trying to do to us. That's a

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<v S1>good book to read. I think it's really very good. Well,

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<v S1>we're going to take a break here. Thank you.

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<v S13>Tara, thank you as well. Doctor.

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<v S1>Nick, that's Tara Haynes, and I'm Michael Riedel. You've been

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<v S1>listening thus far to Open Line. We're going to come

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<v S1>back with more of your questions right here. Uh, on

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<v S1>the air with the with your phone calls. Uh, stay

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<v S1>with us. This is Moody Radio's open line, and we're

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<v S1>wishing you a happy holiday. We'll come back with more

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<v S1>Christmas music.

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<v UU>In just a moment. While shepherds kept them watching over

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<v UU>silent flocks by night. Behold, throughout the heavens the sun,

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<v UU>the holy light. Oh, I said, go tell it on

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<v UU>the mountain over the hills.

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<v S14>What a great version! That's one of the.

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<v S1>First songs I listened to. I was so surprised that

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<v S1>these two Jewish guys from That's Not Them, but these

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<v S1>two Jewish guys from New York, Simon and Garfunkel, had

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.149
<v S1>Go Tell It on the mountain on one of their

0:37:51.150 --> 0:37:53.670
<v S1>early albums, and I'm like, hmm, I wonder why they

0:37:53.700 --> 0:37:55.799
<v S1>were doing that. They just liked the folk song. But

0:37:55.800 --> 0:38:00.030
<v S1>it's a great song. Uh, that the Messiah, Jesus has

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<v S1>indeed been born. That's what we're celebrating this whole month,

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<v S1>not just this day or, uh, because it's Candlelight Carols

0:38:07.500 --> 0:38:12.000
<v S1>at Moody or on the 24th and 25th of December.

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<v S1>We're celebrating it every day. How great that we have

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<v S1>a messiah. Well, uh, I failed to mention that our

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<v S1>mailbag last time was the Febc mailbag. I want to

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<v S1>remind people that febc Far Eastern Broadcasting Company partners with

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<v S1>I really want you to check out their podcast, the

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<v S1>Febc podcast. It's called Til All Have Heard. The way

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<v S1>to find it is go to febc.org. Check all of

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<v S1>that out. Also, uh, Chosen People Ministries has has got

0:38:56.250 --> 0:38:58.770
<v S1>a great offer. This is the last week. You'll have it.

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:04.080
<v S1>It's a book called The Heart of the Apostle. It's about, uh,

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<v S1>the Apostle Paul's great heart and love for his own

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<v S1>Jewish people. Based on Romans nine through 11, I think

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.020
<v S1>you're going to really enjoy it. So many people think

0:39:11.050 --> 0:39:13.930
<v S1>Paul was trying to make the story of Jesus into

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<v S1>something more palatable for the Gentiles. When Paul himself says

0:39:17.620 --> 0:39:19.990
<v S1>what he was trying to do is provoke his own

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<v S1>people to jealousy by bringing the gospel to the Gentiles.

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<v S1>It's a great, great book, and all you have to

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<v S1>do to get it is go to Openline radio.org. Scroll

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<v S1>down to where you see it. There's a link that

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<v S1>says A free gift from Chosen People Ministries. Click on

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<v S1>that and you'll be able to get a copy of

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<v S1>The Heart of the Apostle. I think you're really going

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<v S1>to like that. Now we're going to talk to Maria

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<v S1>in Georgia, listening on the Moody Radio app. Uh, welcome, Maria.

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<v S1>How can I help you today?

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<v S15>Yes. Hi. My teenage son has been bringing up the

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<v S15>400 years of silence between the Old and New Testament.

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<v S15>Meant and how that affects prophecy, because he has heard

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<v S15>that the 400 years of silence is not necessarily true.

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<v S15>And how would we know if Isaiah was written 700 years,

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<v S15>if we include that 400 years as part of those

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<v S15>silent years?

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<v S1>You know, I have no idea what this is talking about.

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<v S1>I don't know what in the world your son is hearing.

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<v S1>I've not heard that. It's here's the thing. We know

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<v S1>when the Kings were reigning and based on when the

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<v S1>kings reigned, that's when Isaiah gave his prophecies. So, for example, uh,

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<v S1>I don't have the exact dates in my head, but

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<v S1>I have them written here in my Bible. Uh, Hezekiah, though,

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<v S1>would would be right around 700 BC. And so when

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<v S1>was Abraham Isaiah ministering to him? It was right around

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<v S1>700 BC. And and so we we date the book

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<v S1>of Isaiah Somewhere around 700 BC. That's it has nothing

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<v S1>to do with the 400 silent years. I don't know

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<v S1>what what people are. Here's the thing. When someone comes

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<v S1>up with something new and everything you ever heard was

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<v S1>wrong and all that. Let me just say that's usually

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<v S1>a sign that when everyone comes up with something innovative

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<v S1>that no one heard of before. Likely wrong. That's all.

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<v S5>That's.

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<v S1>That's what I would say. I don't, you know, see

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<v S1>if you can get some clarity or have your son

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<v S1>call so I can find out more about this. Okay.

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<v S15>Yes.

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<v S5>Thank you. Okay.

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<v S1>Thanks, Maria. So, uh, Anne in Fort Myers, Florida, was

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<v S1>listening on Wcqs. Welcome to open Line, Anne. How can

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<v S1>I help you?

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<v S3>Thank you. Thank you for taking my call.

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<v S16>Um, I've been enjoying reading about Samuel. His courage and

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<v S16>his heart for the Lord. And I came across a

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<v S16>verse in first Samuel 227 and it says, now a

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<v S16>man of God came to Eli and said to him,

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<v S16>this is what the Lord says. Did I not clearly

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<v S16>reveal myself to your father's house when when they were

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<v S16>in Egypt under Pharaoh? And I was wondering, who is

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<v S16>the man of the Lord? Who are they referring to,

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<v S16>an angel or another prophet? I just was not clear

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<v S16>on that.

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<v S1>The phrase man of God is a term from now.

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<v S1>This is first. Second Samuel takes place immediately after the judges.

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<v S1>So we think it was written then, but it was

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<v S1>more likely written right closer to Kings, because there are

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<v S1>books that go together first, second Samuel, first second kings.

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<v S1>They tell one story, you know, it starts with the

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<v S1>foil for King David. That's, uh, that that's King Saul

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<v S1>and then King David, then King Solomon, first kings and

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<v S1>then second kings, the rest of the kings, and so forth. Okay,

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<v S1>so it's a four volume set, probably written near the

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<v S1>time of the captivity, and the term that was used

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<v S1>for a prophet then is man of God. So it

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<v S1>just means a prophet. Uh, earlier, uh, a prophet was

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<v S1>called a seer. Uh, but nevertheless, uh, the man of God,

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<v S1>you see it in first Kings 13. There's a guy,

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<v S1>he's unnamed. He's an unnamed man of God. He appears.

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<v S1>You see, Elijah and Elisha, they're called the man of God, uh,

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<v S1>in different texts. So it just means a prophet. Okay.

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<v S16>Very good. That really helps me. Thank you so.

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<v S5>Much. Sure.

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<v S1>So glad you called. Uh, Drew in Michigan. Welcome to

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<v S1>Open Line. How can I help you today?

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<v S17>Hey, doctor, your show is a real blessing.

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<v S5>Thank you.

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<v S17>Chapter 18, Book of Revelation describes the future destruction of

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<v S17>the city of Babylon. At the close of this present age,

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<v S17>a beloved radio TV pastor teaches that Babylon has to

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<v S17>be rebuilt in order for the prophecy to be fulfilled

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<v S17>in light of Christ's imminent return. I find very little

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<v S17>in my research about a rising, bustling megalopolis of Babylon.

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<v S17>I believe Babylon refers figuratively to the global Antichrist.

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<v S5>Well well, well.

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<v S1>You know what? Let me. Let me just answer what

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<v S1>you're saying, okay? If that's okay. Uh, I, I agree

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<v S1>that Babylon has to be rebuilt, or it could very

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<v S1>well be just a reference to Babylonia, not the particular

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<v S1>city of Babylon. Uh, Charlie Dyer wrote a great book

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<v S1>about it called The Rise of Babylon. Uh oh.

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<v S5>Good.

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<v S1>And, uh, Charlie is a very trusted prophecy teacher. He

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<v S1>he wrote two great journal articles about revelation 17 and 18,

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<v S1>about why we should take the word Babylon there, literally. Uh,

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<v S1>so I think in Iraq, someday there's either going to

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<v S1>be a city of Babylon, or it may be just

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<v S1>referring to Babylonia in general. I don't think Charlie says that,

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<v S1>but I think it could very well be, which would

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<v S1>be that same area. And but I do think, you know,

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<v S1>sometimes when it says, uh, sometimes a city is just

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<v S1>a city, it's just Babylon. It's don't we don't have

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<v S1>to find it. I know it's the book of revelation, but, uh,

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<v S1>you know, usually like when it when it's saying something symbolic,

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<v S1>it will tell us it's symbolic. No place does it

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<v S1>look symbolic. And the other thing is the description of

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<v S1>the fall of Babylon in Revelation 17 and 18 looks

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<v S1>identical to the description of the fall of Babylon, the

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<v S1>city of Babylon predicted in Jeremiah 50 and 51. And

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<v S1>that's never happened. So to make it fit. Uh, so

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<v S1>how do I believe in the imminency of the Lord Jesus?

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<v S1>I think the rapture will happen first, and that's can

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<v S1>happen imminently. Any moment. I'm ready for it right now.

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<v S1>And then sometime after that, there will be a covenant

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<v S1>between the future false Messiah and the people of Israel,

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<v S1>and that will start the tribulation period. And then somewhere

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<v S1>in there, that's when the fall of Babylon happens in

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<v S1>the tribulation. So that's what I think about that. But

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<v S1>mostly I'm looking for Jesus. That's what I want. Uh, well,

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<v S1>that's the program for the week. Thanks for listening, everyone.

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