1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,479 S1: Get ready for a grand old conversation at the radio 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,960 S1: backyard fence today on Chris Fabry Live. He is a 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,680 S1: Grammy and CMA Award nominated singer and songwriter. Grew up 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,160 S1: singing in church in Covington, Georgia. Moved to Nashville with 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,200 S1: a guitar and a dream when he was 24. And 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,480 S1: the reason he's here today is to talk about a 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,920 S1: decision that he's made. After all his success, he still 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,320 S1: wrestled with a deep emptiness. There was a void in 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,000 S1: his heart, a God shaped vacuum that couldn't be filled 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,760 S1: by career achievements. What happened? Are you going to hear 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,720 S1: about that and why? Drew Parker sings Blame Jesus. He 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,080 S1: is straight ahead. That is. Drew is straight ahead on 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,200 S1: Chris Avery live program From the heart to the heart 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,599 S1: for the heart. And we thank our team. Ryan McConaughey 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,160 S1: doing all things technical. Trisha's our producer. Lisa is hanging 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,160 S1: around doing all things. Lisa and Josh will be answering 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,160 S1: your calls today. And since it's Friday. That's right, it's 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,520 S1: time for the fabulous Fabbri Friday site. Here's what it 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,440 S1: does one. We oxygenate your blood. Two we get your 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,440 S1: endorphins going. Three we raise your serotonin level. Four we 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,039 S1: promote lymphatic drainage, and five we stimulate your parasympathetic system. 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,720 S1: That's why we call it the five lung languages. We 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,319 S1: also stimulate your vagus nerve. We help you release acetylcholine. 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,120 S1: And don't you dare forget what it does to cortisol dissipation. 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,600 S1: Taking four seconds of air through your nose right now. 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,720 S1: Hold it four seconds. And then as you release that 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,120 S1: air through your mouth, push on the left side of 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,080 S1: your rib cage to get rid of all that bad 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,840 S1: carbon dioxide. Today we present a country music sigh a 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,040 S1: Jerry Jeff Walker, Hank Williams, Johnny Cash sigh. Give a sigh. 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:48,120 S1: For people with names like Vern, Skeeter, Buck, lefty, Conway, Faron, 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,920 S1: Tom T, and Tubb. And don't forget Kenny, Dolly and 33 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,120 S1: Loretta and Merle and Patsy and the eddies. Rabbitt and 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,680 S1: Arnold and Willie. Waylon and the boys, Charlie and Marty 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,920 S1: and Reba. And make sure you get a ticket to 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,080 S1: the Grand Ole Opry. And don't you dare forget the 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,480 S1: name of Drew Parker, who you'll hear from today at 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,840 S1: the radio backyard fence. Today's Cy is brought to you 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,839 S1: by Little Green Apples, the city of Galveston. And by 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,080 S1: the time this program is over, I will get to Phoenix. Drew, 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,400 S1: what'd you think of that? 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,440 S2: That's good. I love it, man. You know, it brings 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,240 S2: back everything that I love about country music. You were 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,079 S2: naming all the people that I grew up on and 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,040 S2: the people that I love. 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,080 S1: That's the first question that I had. How many of 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,000 S1: those artists had an effect on you? 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,280 S2: Well, the one that sticks out over and over and 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,880 S2: over is Merle Haggard. I mean, just, you know, his 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,360 S2: songs were some that I listened to with my dad 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,119 S2: growing up. The only one I didn't hear you say, 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,440 S2: and maybe you did, but, uh, you know, one of 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,960 S2: the greatest influences on my life was Keith Whitley. I mean, um, 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,080 S2: I was a massive Keith Whitley fan. He is probably, 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,200 S2: in my opinion, the greatest country singer of all time. Um, 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,320 S2: but man, that takes me back to the roots of 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,119 S2: country music and what made me fall in love with 58 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,760 S2: country music so many years ago. 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,040 S1: What was it about Keith Whitley that turned the light 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:10,800 S1: on for you? 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,560 S2: You know, I think it was it was believability. I 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,840 S2: believed everything that he that he sang like he had 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:22,200 S2: lived it. Um, you know, and he grew up singing bluegrass, 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,640 S2: and I grew up in Georgia, so there was a 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,120 S2: lot of those kind of rootsy things. Um, you know, 66 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,760 S2: that I grew up on music wise, you know, I mean, 67 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,880 S2: Keith passed away before I was ever born, but, um, 68 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,800 S2: once I discovered his music, it was just I was 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,640 S2: locked in on that, and just. I just loved his voice. 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,440 S2: I've always been like a, you know, as far as 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,880 S2: music goes, I've always loved the singer first. I think 72 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,040 S2: I've loved the singer before. I loved the song, um, 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,480 S2: which is interesting because now I feel like I'm the 74 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,920 S2: opposite now. But growing up, I, the singer is what 75 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,000 S2: I was, you know, fell in love with first and 76 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,800 S2: then fell in love with the song later. But now 77 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,839 S2: I think it's kind of. I'm a little the other 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,600 S2: way on that. I love the song. First. 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,760 S1: When you say singer, though, you're not just talking about 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,800 S1: the the image that you have, you know, George Jones 81 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,360 S1: or Johnny Paycheck or whoever it is you're talking about 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,880 S1: the voice and the way that voice and the earthiness, 83 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,960 S1: the the realness. I think that's the main thing that 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,480 S1: touches people's heart about country music is it feels like 85 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,000 S1: these are real people, right? 86 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,760 S2: 100%. Yeah. When I can, you know, when, um, George 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,960 S2: Jones is, you know, singing a song. I believed it like, 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,560 S2: I could, I could hear the hurt and the sadness 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,360 S2: and the excitement or happiness, whatever. That's what I fell 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,799 S2: in love with was the conviction that came through the voice. Um, 91 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,520 S2: and so which which makes you fall in love with 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,840 S2: the song at the same time? 93 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:56,010 S1: Yeah. And and was it partly your dad, too, and 94 00:04:56,010 --> 00:04:59,290 S1: his influence that made you gravitate toward country music? 95 00:04:59,490 --> 00:05:02,370 S2: 100%, yeah. My my dad was the biggest Willie Nelson 96 00:05:02,370 --> 00:05:05,289 S2: fan in to this day. Still the biggest Willie Nelson 97 00:05:05,290 --> 00:05:07,450 S2: fan I know. And so a few years ago, I 98 00:05:07,450 --> 00:05:11,170 S2: got to tour with Willie for a weekend and opened 99 00:05:11,170 --> 00:05:13,170 S2: some shows. And so my dad got to come out 100 00:05:13,170 --> 00:05:15,410 S2: to those, which was super cool. Got to end the 101 00:05:15,410 --> 00:05:18,130 S2: show singing Will the Circle Be Unbroken with Willie Nelson, 102 00:05:18,130 --> 00:05:21,529 S2: that that will forever be, you know, at the top 103 00:05:21,529 --> 00:05:24,050 S2: of the list of of cool things that I've gotten 104 00:05:24,050 --> 00:05:26,969 S2: to do in my career. But yeah, just my dad. 105 00:05:27,010 --> 00:05:33,170 S2: Huge influence of mine. And I think partly I, I 106 00:05:33,210 --> 00:05:39,130 S2: feel this sense of pride of, of like somewhat chasing 107 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:41,849 S2: my like my dream of chasing music is also somewhat 108 00:05:41,850 --> 00:05:45,849 S2: my dad's dream that I feel this sense of need 109 00:05:45,850 --> 00:05:48,410 S2: to do it based on something that I feel like 110 00:05:48,410 --> 00:05:52,250 S2: my dad loved so much and my dad never chased. 111 00:05:52,490 --> 00:05:56,210 S2: You know, the desire or chase the dream of playing music. 112 00:05:56,210 --> 00:05:58,770 S2: But he was such a fan and so passionate and 113 00:05:58,770 --> 00:06:02,010 S2: so part of me. I feel this like need that 114 00:06:02,010 --> 00:06:04,529 S2: I need to make him proud in the sense of 115 00:06:04,770 --> 00:06:08,130 S2: I feel like somewhat. I'm living my dad's dream second 116 00:06:08,170 --> 00:06:09,090 S2: hand a little bit. 117 00:06:10,450 --> 00:06:13,969 S1: The the guitar of Willie Nelson. I saw him back 118 00:06:13,970 --> 00:06:16,529 S1: in the 70s. He's still got that same old guitar 119 00:06:16,529 --> 00:06:18,570 S1: with the with the hole in it. You talk about 120 00:06:18,570 --> 00:06:23,690 S1: reality and. Yeah, the sound of that thing. But it's him. 121 00:06:23,850 --> 00:06:25,089 S1: It's totally him. 122 00:06:25,370 --> 00:06:28,370 S2: It is. Yeah. It's crazy. I, I remember me and 123 00:06:28,370 --> 00:06:30,530 S2: my dad. My dad came out to those shows I 124 00:06:30,529 --> 00:06:33,330 S2: was opening for Willie, and we're walking backstage and they 125 00:06:33,330 --> 00:06:34,969 S2: had the case and they had the guitar, and it 126 00:06:34,970 --> 00:06:38,130 S2: was just sitting there on a stand. Nobody's like, you know, 127 00:06:38,170 --> 00:06:40,250 S2: my whole life I'm like, surely he pays like a 128 00:06:40,250 --> 00:06:43,130 S2: security guard to just sit beside the guitar and protect it. 129 00:06:43,130 --> 00:06:45,370 S2: And it's like just sitting backstage on this stand and 130 00:06:45,370 --> 00:06:47,690 S2: I'm like, I look at my dad, I'm like, I mean, 131 00:06:47,690 --> 00:06:51,089 S2: we gotta touch it while we're here, right? And so. Yes. Yes. Um, 132 00:06:51,130 --> 00:06:52,090 S2: but yeah. It's crazy. 133 00:06:52,610 --> 00:06:55,410 S1: Okay, so, drew, I the reason I wanted to have 134 00:06:55,410 --> 00:06:57,650 S1: you on here is because I watched that short film. 135 00:06:57,650 --> 00:07:01,650 S1: I want to play the first few four minutes of 136 00:07:01,770 --> 00:07:04,849 S1: hanging up a hat. This is why I wanted to 137 00:07:04,850 --> 00:07:06,850 S1: have drew on. This is what he said in that 138 00:07:06,850 --> 00:07:07,650 S1: short film. 139 00:07:07,850 --> 00:07:11,650 S2: They say Nashville is a ten year town. I used 140 00:07:11,650 --> 00:07:13,850 S2: to think that meant it took ten years to make it, 141 00:07:14,330 --> 00:07:18,370 S2: but looking back, I realize it's not about time. It's 142 00:07:18,370 --> 00:07:22,770 S2: about transformation. Ten years ago, I packed up everything I 143 00:07:22,770 --> 00:07:26,050 S2: owned and moved to Nashville, Tennessee with nothing but a 144 00:07:26,050 --> 00:07:29,290 S2: dream and a fire in my heart. Country music was 145 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:32,170 S2: all I had ever wanted, and for a decade I 146 00:07:32,210 --> 00:07:35,850 S2: gave it everything I had. I wrote songs that got 147 00:07:35,850 --> 00:07:39,650 S2: recorded by major artists, stepped into the Grand Ole Opry circle, 148 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:42,690 S2: signed a record deal, heard my songs on the radio, 149 00:07:43,050 --> 00:07:47,890 S2: and in many ways, I lived the dream. But then 150 00:07:47,890 --> 00:07:53,930 S2: something shifted That dream started to feel incomplete. For over 151 00:07:53,930 --> 00:07:55,730 S2: a year and a half, I felt a stirring. I 152 00:07:55,730 --> 00:07:59,370 S2: couldn't shake, a whisper growing louder. God was trying to 153 00:07:59,370 --> 00:08:02,890 S2: get my attention, but I wasn't ready to listen. I 154 00:08:02,930 --> 00:08:06,210 S2: kept saying, not now, God. The album just came out. 155 00:08:06,210 --> 00:08:09,210 S2: The new singles going to radio. Things are finally going 156 00:08:09,250 --> 00:08:14,130 S2: my way. But when God wants your attention, he'll get it. 157 00:08:15,010 --> 00:08:19,010 S2: On December 1st, 2024, I couldn't resist the weight of 158 00:08:19,010 --> 00:08:24,170 S2: his calling any longer. I finally prayed, God, I know 159 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:27,250 S2: you've been speaking and I've been too stubborn to listen. 160 00:08:27,730 --> 00:08:31,570 S2: I'm ready now. Please make it clear. No guessing. No 161 00:08:31,570 --> 00:08:34,690 S2: vague signs. Just tell me what you want me to do. 162 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:38,170 S2: Five days later, I was out shopping with my wife 163 00:08:38,170 --> 00:08:41,650 S2: when my phone rang. It was my manager of ten years, 164 00:08:41,690 --> 00:08:45,689 S2: Chris Cappy. At the time, Cappy was an unbeliever, which 165 00:08:45,690 --> 00:08:47,530 S2: is why it hit me like a freight train when 166 00:08:47,530 --> 00:08:48,170 S2: he said. 167 00:08:48,450 --> 00:08:50,650 S3: Hey, man, I know how much this dream means to 168 00:08:50,650 --> 00:08:53,090 S3: you and I know how hard you've been working for it. 169 00:08:53,330 --> 00:08:55,330 S3: But for the past week, I've been waking up in 170 00:08:55,330 --> 00:08:57,330 S3: the middle of the night with you on my mind. 171 00:08:57,330 --> 00:08:59,690 S3: And every time I wake up, I hear this voice 172 00:08:59,690 --> 00:09:01,929 S3: or something that I just can't shake. And I feel 173 00:09:01,929 --> 00:09:03,809 S3: like I'm supposed to tell you something. That you're supposed 174 00:09:03,809 --> 00:09:06,530 S3: to be a Christian artist. You're supposed to sing songs 175 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:07,489 S3: about Jesus. 176 00:09:08,170 --> 00:09:11,010 S2: Those words were everything I thought God had been trying 177 00:09:11,010 --> 00:09:13,410 S2: to say to me for so long, which is why 178 00:09:13,410 --> 00:09:16,130 S2: it all caught me off guard. I could hear the 179 00:09:16,130 --> 00:09:19,690 S2: hesitation in Cappy's voice like he thought he'd said something wrong. 180 00:09:19,929 --> 00:09:23,210 S2: He started backtracking, trying to soften the moment, but I 181 00:09:23,210 --> 00:09:25,530 S2: stopped him and told him that just five days prior, 182 00:09:25,809 --> 00:09:27,410 S2: I had asked God to speak to me in a 183 00:09:27,410 --> 00:09:30,810 S2: way I couldn't deny, and that God had just used 184 00:09:30,809 --> 00:09:34,929 S2: him to do it. And that moment we both knew 185 00:09:35,290 --> 00:09:39,090 S2: God was moving. One of the first people I reached 186 00:09:39,090 --> 00:09:41,730 S2: out to after this happened was Pastor Joby Martin from 187 00:09:41,730 --> 00:09:45,290 S2: the church of 1122 in Jacksonville, Florida, and he asked 188 00:09:45,290 --> 00:09:47,650 S2: me if I had heard his most recent sermon titled 189 00:09:47,650 --> 00:09:51,250 S2: Why Do You Doubt? So let's make this personal. 190 00:09:52,929 --> 00:09:56,770 S4: We're in the culmination of this 1010 life. Some of 191 00:09:56,770 --> 00:10:01,410 S4: you are new. Welcome. You're sitting in the boat, and 192 00:10:01,410 --> 00:10:03,290 S4: you can have a tendency to be filled with fear 193 00:10:04,250 --> 00:10:07,370 S4: in Jesus. Just like the guy in the video said 194 00:10:07,890 --> 00:10:11,530 S4: speaks to you louder than you can hear me right now. 195 00:10:11,929 --> 00:10:14,610 S4: But deep down in those inside places, and you know, 196 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:18,370 S4: he's calling you to do something and he's calling you 197 00:10:18,370 --> 00:10:20,850 S4: to step out of the boat and you're looking at 198 00:10:20,850 --> 00:10:23,530 S4: it going, it doesn't make sense. And he's like, yeah, 199 00:10:23,530 --> 00:10:24,730 S4: I know, I know, I know, but I'm the God 200 00:10:24,730 --> 00:10:27,290 S4: of the impossible. And I'll give you everything you need 201 00:10:27,290 --> 00:10:29,250 S4: to accomplish everything that I have called you to do. 202 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:31,290 S4: But I'm calling you to step out of the boat. 203 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:33,490 S4: Where has he called you to step? On the. 204 00:10:33,490 --> 00:10:39,209 S2: Boat. And that's when it hit me. God wasn't just speaking. 205 00:10:40,090 --> 00:10:44,850 S2: He was calling me to trust him. To stop doubting. 206 00:10:45,570 --> 00:10:49,850 S2: To step out of the boat. So here I am 207 00:10:50,730 --> 00:10:54,650 S2: after ten years of chasing country music. I'm stepping out, 208 00:10:55,450 --> 00:10:58,250 S2: not hanging up the hat, just trading it for a 209 00:10:58,250 --> 00:11:01,770 S2: new one. A hat for Jesus. 210 00:11:04,090 --> 00:11:07,610 S1: Here's what I think might happen today. You are listening. 211 00:11:07,610 --> 00:11:10,929 S1: And you're feeling that same thing God is calling, whispering. 212 00:11:11,370 --> 00:11:14,569 S1: He's wooing you home or to get out of the 213 00:11:14,570 --> 00:11:16,810 S1: boat for the rest of the hour. I want you 214 00:11:16,809 --> 00:11:20,250 S1: to hear Drew Parker's story and how he responded to 215 00:11:20,290 --> 00:11:27,210 S1: that call here on Chris Fabry Live. Our number is (877) 548-3675. 216 00:11:36,010 --> 00:11:38,690 S1: Singer songwriter Drew Parker is with us today at the 217 00:11:38,690 --> 00:11:43,250 S1: radio backyard fence. He has penned such number one hits 218 00:11:43,250 --> 00:11:48,410 S1: in mainstream country music as Forever After All, sung by 219 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:53,130 S1: Luke Combs. Jake Owen's Home Made and others. You can 220 00:11:53,130 --> 00:11:55,250 S1: find out more about him. We have a link to 221 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:59,050 S1: his website right there at Chris Lives. We're going to 222 00:11:59,050 --> 00:12:01,610 S1: play Blame Jesus here in a little bit. You probably 223 00:12:01,610 --> 00:12:05,210 S1: have heard that song as well, but drew the rest 224 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:08,929 S1: of that short film then. Was you on a phone call, 225 00:12:08,929 --> 00:12:11,650 S1: you on your cell phone calling someone? And my guess 226 00:12:11,690 --> 00:12:15,890 S1: is it wasn't a specific person that you were talking to. 227 00:12:16,090 --> 00:12:20,850 S1: It's just something anybody who's listening to us today, you 228 00:12:20,890 --> 00:12:23,210 S1: want to say, look, if this is God is whispering 229 00:12:23,210 --> 00:12:26,010 S1: in your heart, move toward him. Is that right? 230 00:12:26,450 --> 00:12:30,050 S2: 100%? That was that that that part of the video 231 00:12:30,090 --> 00:12:32,410 S2: was so important to me to get that at the 232 00:12:32,410 --> 00:12:37,050 S2: very end, because I wanted people to know that, that 233 00:12:37,050 --> 00:12:39,410 S2: I've been in it. Obviously, I've been in the same 234 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:44,490 S2: place of just sitting there, God Knocking on the door 235 00:12:44,490 --> 00:12:46,650 S2: of my heart saying, hey, I've got this for you. 236 00:12:46,650 --> 00:12:49,130 S2: But me ignoring it, and for me, it was holding 237 00:12:49,130 --> 00:12:52,210 S2: on to things that I wanted. Things that I worked 238 00:12:52,210 --> 00:12:55,530 S2: so hard for, things that I thought I deserved. And 239 00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:58,809 S2: instead of stepping into what God had for me and 240 00:12:59,050 --> 00:13:03,929 S2: it took me so long to see that, um, and really, 241 00:13:03,929 --> 00:13:07,050 S2: it was just a moment of desperation of me finally 242 00:13:07,050 --> 00:13:10,490 S2: sensing God wanted something different from me, me saying this prayer. 243 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:15,730 S2: And I wanted to leave the video with that of like, 244 00:13:15,929 --> 00:13:18,010 S2: if you've been there, if you've set in the boat 245 00:13:18,010 --> 00:13:20,530 S2: wondering what God has for you, you don't have to 246 00:13:20,570 --> 00:13:23,170 S2: be scared of it. Just step into it. Because I 247 00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:26,170 S2: can promise you, no matter what it looks like, if 248 00:13:26,610 --> 00:13:29,090 S2: we think we know what's best for us. But God, 249 00:13:29,290 --> 00:13:33,290 S2: I mean, he created everything, why would he ask us 250 00:13:33,290 --> 00:13:35,530 S2: to do something? Why would we step into something that's 251 00:13:35,530 --> 00:13:37,010 S2: not going to be better for us? It may not 252 00:13:37,010 --> 00:13:39,370 S2: appear that way, but I can promise at the end 253 00:13:39,370 --> 00:13:40,890 S2: of the day, it's going to be. And I just 254 00:13:40,890 --> 00:13:44,329 S2: wanted to challenge folks to step into what God had 255 00:13:44,330 --> 00:13:46,410 S2: for them. You know, the whole step out of the boat, 256 00:13:46,410 --> 00:13:49,369 S2: Peter is standing there. He's in the boat and God's 257 00:13:49,410 --> 00:13:52,689 S2: Jesus is walking on the water. And Jesus is like, 258 00:13:53,010 --> 00:13:55,689 S2: come on, Peter. And Peter steps out of the boat. 259 00:13:55,730 --> 00:13:57,850 S2: He does take a step of obedience. And then he 260 00:13:57,890 --> 00:14:01,370 S2: doubts and he starts to drown. He starts to fall 261 00:14:01,370 --> 00:14:03,809 S2: in the water and he's swimming. And you know, and 262 00:14:04,330 --> 00:14:06,690 S2: there's so many times that we've doubted what God has 263 00:14:06,690 --> 00:14:10,610 S2: for us because we're scared. And I can tell you 264 00:14:10,610 --> 00:14:14,410 S2: the last over the last year of my life, since 265 00:14:14,410 --> 00:14:18,690 S2: stepping into God's calling all my life, man, it looks 266 00:14:18,690 --> 00:14:21,250 S2: completely different. My life looks completely different than what I 267 00:14:21,250 --> 00:14:24,170 S2: thought it was going to look like. But there's it's 268 00:14:24,170 --> 00:14:28,090 S2: so beautiful. There's so much freedom there. Um, and it's 269 00:14:28,090 --> 00:14:31,490 S2: so awesome, and I, I hate that I maybe missed 270 00:14:31,490 --> 00:14:33,170 S2: out on this for so long. You know what I mean? 271 00:14:33,170 --> 00:14:35,570 S2: That God may have been trying to steer my heart 272 00:14:35,570 --> 00:14:38,370 S2: here for a long time, and. And I just kept 273 00:14:38,370 --> 00:14:40,170 S2: holding on to what I wanted. 274 00:14:40,620 --> 00:14:42,060 S1: And how was. 275 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:42,900 S2: It? It was. 276 00:14:43,220 --> 00:14:46,220 S1: How was it different than what you envisioned? You thought 277 00:14:46,220 --> 00:14:48,700 S1: it would be blank. 278 00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:53,860 S2: Well, I thought for one, I would spend so much 279 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:56,500 S2: time on the road playing shows and that that would 280 00:14:56,500 --> 00:15:02,140 S2: satisfy me. Um, you know, I, Chris, I think I've 281 00:15:02,540 --> 00:15:08,460 S2: learned so much over the last year how infant like 282 00:15:08,780 --> 00:15:14,740 S2: my faith was prior to hearing from the Lord. Um, 283 00:15:15,660 --> 00:15:19,380 S2: I got in 2023, I found myself in a place 284 00:15:19,380 --> 00:15:21,979 S2: where a friend of mine that I love so much 285 00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:25,500 S2: started asking questions about the Lord, and I had no 286 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:27,900 S2: answers for him, and I couldn't even open up my 287 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:29,820 S2: Bible and turn to him and show him an answer 288 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:33,060 S2: to it. Even though I've been a believer since I 289 00:15:33,060 --> 00:15:37,540 S2: was a young boy, my faith and my knowledge of 290 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:41,540 S2: the Bible and my faith in Jesus was so infant 291 00:15:41,540 --> 00:15:44,820 S2: like that, I couldn't even. Someone that I loved so dearly, 292 00:15:44,820 --> 00:15:46,940 S2: I couldn't even steer them toward the Lord. And now 293 00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:49,060 S2: I feel like I've, you know, I'm still not where 294 00:15:49,060 --> 00:15:51,260 S2: I want to be, but I'm man, I spend so 295 00:15:51,260 --> 00:15:53,700 S2: much time with the Lord over the last year, digging 296 00:15:53,700 --> 00:15:56,820 S2: in the word and in prayer that I just feel 297 00:15:56,820 --> 00:16:00,300 S2: like I'm ready for those conversations now. But that is 298 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:02,780 S2: really what started to break my heart and steer my 299 00:16:02,780 --> 00:16:07,140 S2: heart towards what God had for me. Like, I felt, um, 300 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,340 S2: I really felt like a loser in that situation when 301 00:16:09,340 --> 00:16:11,620 S2: this friend was asking me questions and I didn't have answers, 302 00:16:11,620 --> 00:16:13,940 S2: and I couldn't even help him turn in the Bible 303 00:16:13,980 --> 00:16:17,460 S2: to to guide him. And I felt like I really 304 00:16:17,460 --> 00:16:19,780 S2: felt like a loser in that situation. And that's when 305 00:16:19,820 --> 00:16:23,820 S2: God broke my heart and really started steering me towards 306 00:16:23,820 --> 00:16:27,220 S2: the direction of obedience. And God wanted to recognize obedience 307 00:16:27,220 --> 00:16:30,940 S2: in my life. And I began to pray and seek, 308 00:16:30,940 --> 00:16:34,140 S2: really seek the Lord. And that's when God started kind 309 00:16:34,140 --> 00:16:37,100 S2: of aligning his plan, you know, or aligning my life 310 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:41,660 S2: with his plan for me. Um. And, man, it's just 311 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:43,180 S2: I don't, you know, I don't know what my life 312 00:16:43,180 --> 00:16:46,380 S2: would have looked like if I hadn't, you know, really 313 00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:48,540 S2: sought after the Lord. A year and a half. 314 00:16:48,580 --> 00:16:50,060 S1: Surrender. Its surrender. 315 00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:52,460 S2: If I hadn't surrendered to that moment, I don't know 316 00:16:52,460 --> 00:16:55,660 S2: what my life would look like. Um. I can't imagine 317 00:16:55,660 --> 00:16:57,940 S2: I would be as happy and as joyful as I 318 00:16:57,940 --> 00:16:59,620 S2: am now. I can't imagine that I would be the 319 00:16:59,620 --> 00:17:02,580 S2: husband and the father that I am now. And so 320 00:17:02,620 --> 00:17:05,460 S2: I'm grateful for it in those areas, you know, and 321 00:17:05,460 --> 00:17:10,500 S2: growing in my discipleship through friends and through other other guys. 322 00:17:10,540 --> 00:17:12,780 S2: And so that's what. 323 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:12,859 S1: It. 324 00:17:12,859 --> 00:17:13,699 S2: Looks like now. 325 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:16,860 S1: How are you different? If I could have Mallory on here, 326 00:17:16,859 --> 00:17:19,700 S1: your wife, or if I could have, uh, Harley or 327 00:17:19,740 --> 00:17:22,740 S1: Landry on here, though. Landry, I think, is still pretty young. 328 00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:26,139 S1: She would be. Yeah. She makes a noise, but I 329 00:17:26,140 --> 00:17:27,940 S1: don't know if I could ask you the question, but 330 00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:31,500 S1: how would they say you're different than you were before this? 331 00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:34,020 S2: Well, they would definitely say I'm more present. And I 332 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:37,660 S2: don't mean physically, although I am more present physically. I 333 00:17:37,660 --> 00:17:42,340 S2: think they would see that I'm more present emotionally and spiritually. 334 00:17:42,380 --> 00:17:46,460 S2: You know that that I have stepped into truly what 335 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:51,260 S2: God wants for my life. And I have found a desire, 336 00:17:51,380 --> 00:17:56,220 S2: and I now don't hunger for anything other than for 337 00:17:56,220 --> 00:17:59,580 S2: the Lord. I mean, that that is so true. Like, um, 338 00:18:00,700 --> 00:18:05,020 S2: I used to be so consumed and analytics of people 339 00:18:05,020 --> 00:18:08,100 S2: listening to my music or likes and follows and shares 340 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:12,220 S2: on social media and man, that is all behind me 341 00:18:12,260 --> 00:18:15,100 S2: like it is. And so now my focus is literally 342 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:18,820 S2: on the Lord and, you know, discipling my children. I mean, 343 00:18:19,380 --> 00:18:22,700 S2: I pray with my daughter every night. We read the 344 00:18:22,700 --> 00:18:27,020 S2: Bible every night. And, you know, we did that before 345 00:18:27,020 --> 00:18:29,219 S2: I fully surrendered to the Lord. But it wasn't on 346 00:18:29,220 --> 00:18:33,180 S2: a regular basis, and it was more out of a habit, 347 00:18:33,220 --> 00:18:38,859 S2: which I think is where kind of my. Head space 348 00:18:38,859 --> 00:18:41,580 S2: has been pretty much the first 33 years of my 349 00:18:41,580 --> 00:18:44,420 S2: life until I fully surrender to the Lord was like. 350 00:18:44,619 --> 00:18:48,220 S2: I was like a checklist. Christian. You know where, well, I, 351 00:18:48,380 --> 00:18:50,940 S2: I read my Bible from time I go to church. Check, 352 00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:54,379 S2: check that off the list. Um, you know, I pray 353 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:57,820 S2: check that. But I don't pray regularly. Pray regular. But 354 00:18:57,859 --> 00:19:00,860 S2: I it was this I was living in a cultural, 355 00:19:00,859 --> 00:19:04,860 S2: Christian like world. And man, that that is where my 356 00:19:04,859 --> 00:19:08,340 S2: heart is now is wanting to. And that was kind 357 00:19:08,340 --> 00:19:11,540 S2: of the end of the video, like, hey, if you 358 00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:14,020 S2: know Jesus and if you don't like, I would love 359 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:16,580 S2: to introduce you to him and tell him, and I 360 00:19:16,619 --> 00:19:20,699 S2: can't save you, but he can. And, um, but at 361 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:23,020 S2: the same time, if you do know Jesus, it's time 362 00:19:23,020 --> 00:19:26,740 S2: for us to get serious. Like Jesus doesn't care about 363 00:19:26,740 --> 00:19:29,419 S2: the cross that's in your Instagram bio. You know what 364 00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:32,260 S2: I mean? Like it is time to get serious about 365 00:19:32,260 --> 00:19:36,220 S2: following the Lord Jesus doesn't. He don't need any fans. 366 00:19:36,220 --> 00:19:40,619 S2: We're here to follow our creator and our Savior, the 367 00:19:40,619 --> 00:19:44,100 S2: one who has reconciled us back to our creator. And so, um, 368 00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:46,060 S2: you know, I'm not a preacher by no means, but 369 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:49,260 S2: the what the Lord has, he has just lit a 370 00:19:49,260 --> 00:19:52,500 S2: fire inside of me for people who for so long 371 00:19:52,540 --> 00:19:55,780 S2: I wore the I was Team Jesus, you know, my 372 00:19:55,780 --> 00:19:58,139 S2: whole life. And I've wore the jersey and I've rooted 373 00:19:58,140 --> 00:20:01,580 S2: on Team Jesus from the sidelines. But, man, if a 374 00:20:01,580 --> 00:20:03,580 S2: player in the game were to get hurt, don't look 375 00:20:03,580 --> 00:20:04,940 S2: to me to get in the game, because I'm not 376 00:20:04,940 --> 00:20:06,540 S2: going to be I'm not going to be your guy 377 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:11,139 S2: because I wasn't prepared for that and I wasn't, you know, 378 00:20:11,180 --> 00:20:13,899 S2: I wasn't discipled in that way, and I wasn't I 379 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:17,340 S2: didn't what I wanted that my my life didn't fit that, 380 00:20:17,780 --> 00:20:21,859 S2: you know, into that box. And so I've been there 381 00:20:21,859 --> 00:20:24,860 S2: and but now I'm like, let's get, let's get in 382 00:20:24,859 --> 00:20:26,500 S2: the game. And I just want to encourage everyone to 383 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:27,179 S2: get in the game. 384 00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:32,100 S1: Um, this decision that you made then, even though you're 385 00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:35,060 S1: still a country artist and you still write. You sing 386 00:20:35,060 --> 00:20:40,139 S1: country music. Um, has anything become harder because of this 387 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:42,900 S1: new wrinkle in your life? 388 00:20:44,980 --> 00:20:48,060 S2: I don't think so, man. I, I, I haven't found 389 00:20:48,060 --> 00:20:54,140 S2: anything yet, you know? Um, maybe maybe some opportunity has, 390 00:20:54,460 --> 00:21:00,300 S2: you know, gone away. Maybe. Right. But, man, the but 391 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:02,900 S2: the doors that have opened up are like, who even cares, 392 00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:05,940 S2: you know? Like, you know, it's just been like, God 393 00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:08,420 S2: is like, maybe remove one thing and replace it with 394 00:21:08,420 --> 00:21:12,060 S2: something that is so much more cooler and, you know, 395 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:15,419 S2: opportunity to share the gospel. And so, um, I don't 396 00:21:15,460 --> 00:21:18,580 S2: I wouldn't say anything has gotten more difficult. By no means. 397 00:21:18,580 --> 00:21:23,020 S2: I just it's just gotten different and, you know, more 398 00:21:23,020 --> 00:21:24,500 S2: aligned with what God wants for me. 399 00:21:25,260 --> 00:21:28,660 S1: Your story reminds me of others that we've talked with. 400 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:31,660 S1: We talked Ben Fuller, though he wasn't a Christian when 401 00:21:31,660 --> 00:21:34,020 S1: he moved to Nashville and he was chasing, he was striving. 402 00:21:34,020 --> 00:21:36,380 S1: He was doing that same thing that you're talking about. 403 00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:38,580 S1: It's like, I want to be in country music. And 404 00:21:38,580 --> 00:21:42,900 S1: then somebody invited him to church, or family did. And 405 00:21:43,140 --> 00:21:46,540 S1: there was something there that he knew that he didn't 406 00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:49,340 S1: have that he wanted in his life. And it was 407 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:52,780 S1: the freedom, you know, the forgiveness you don't know. Ben, 408 00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:53,300 S1: do you? 409 00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:56,219 S2: I don't know him. Um, but it's funny you say 410 00:21:56,220 --> 00:22:00,380 S2: that because at the end of the video and I'm 411 00:22:00,420 --> 00:22:03,020 S2: basically somebody asked me, he's like, who are you talking 412 00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:04,260 S2: to on the phone at the end of that video? 413 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:06,460 S2: I'm like, I was talking to you. I was talking 414 00:22:06,500 --> 00:22:09,620 S2: whoever's listening. Like, whoever the Holy Spirit moves to feel 415 00:22:09,619 --> 00:22:12,060 S2: convicted in that moment. That's who I'm talking to. Like, 416 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:15,580 S2: but in that, in that moment, I say, I said 417 00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:19,100 S2: something along the lines of, there's no way you'll ever 418 00:22:19,140 --> 00:22:21,460 S2: be able to fill the space in your heart that 419 00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:24,780 S2: was intended to be filled by Jesus. There's no way 420 00:22:24,780 --> 00:22:28,940 S2: there's any. There's nothing in this world. For me, it was, uh, 421 00:22:28,940 --> 00:22:32,500 S2: being rich and being famous and and to I, I 422 00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:34,900 S2: didn't get into the music business to be rich and 423 00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:40,580 S2: famous by no means. But those when those things became 424 00:22:40,619 --> 00:22:43,020 S2: dangling carrots out in front of me and you start, 425 00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:45,460 S2: you're like, well, if I man, if I just if 426 00:22:45,460 --> 00:22:47,419 S2: I just did this, I would actually get that. And 427 00:22:47,420 --> 00:22:49,540 S2: that would be kind of cool. It turns into a 428 00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:52,940 S2: thing that you desire and, and so your desires become 429 00:22:52,940 --> 00:22:57,340 S2: those things instead of your desire becoming Jesus. Like when 430 00:22:57,340 --> 00:22:59,619 S2: you when you wake up every morning and you pick 431 00:22:59,660 --> 00:23:01,900 S2: up your cross and you read the word and you pray, 432 00:23:01,940 --> 00:23:05,820 S2: your desire becomes to be more Christ like. But for me, 433 00:23:05,859 --> 00:23:10,020 S2: I realized that the reason I, I think, and this 434 00:23:10,020 --> 00:23:11,739 S2: is something that I've just kind of learned over the 435 00:23:11,740 --> 00:23:18,380 S2: last year, why, um, fame and fortune became a little 436 00:23:18,380 --> 00:23:22,700 S2: bit of what drove me is because I realized that 437 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:26,300 S2: was a marker, that I would be judged by the 438 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:29,500 S2: world by, if that makes sense. Like all the people 439 00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:32,660 S2: that said that I would. Oh, you'll never do it. 440 00:23:32,660 --> 00:23:36,300 S2: You'll never make it. I realized, well, the only the 441 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:39,500 S2: only factor that would prove them wrong is if they 442 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:41,260 S2: saw that I was rich. And if they saw that 443 00:23:41,260 --> 00:23:44,139 S2: I was famous, if they saw that I was on TV, 444 00:23:44,180 --> 00:23:46,700 S2: they're like, well, he made it. And I would prove 445 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:50,260 S2: them wrong. Right? And so that became the reason that 446 00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:52,820 S2: I saw it after those things was really just because 447 00:23:52,820 --> 00:23:56,379 S2: people said I would never make it right. And so 448 00:23:56,540 --> 00:24:00,780 S2: which is so, oh, disgusting that I ever even. 449 00:24:00,780 --> 00:24:01,619 S1: Shallow, isn't it? 450 00:24:01,619 --> 00:24:04,580 S2: Yeah, for sure that I would ever have thought that. 451 00:24:04,580 --> 00:24:08,780 S2: But that was I wanted to prove people wrong and, um, 452 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:11,580 S2: I was just using the wrong ways to do that. 453 00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:14,060 S2: And so the Lord just began to break my heart. 454 00:24:14,060 --> 00:24:16,020 S2: And that was my prayer. God, break my heart for 455 00:24:16,020 --> 00:24:19,900 S2: what breaks yours. And be careful when you pray that prayer. 456 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:22,219 S2: When you pray any bold prayer because God, God will 457 00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:24,420 S2: ask you to step into something that you had no idea. 458 00:24:24,460 --> 00:24:27,350 S2: And I mean God used an unbeliever. 459 00:24:27,950 --> 00:24:31,590 S1: Yes, I want to talk about that. Cathy. Cathy is 460 00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:34,709 S1: his name. And in the in the video, you say 461 00:24:34,750 --> 00:24:37,070 S1: at the time he was an unbeliever. So I want 462 00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:38,990 S1: to come back. I want you to tell me about that. 463 00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:41,910 S1: The other thing I want people not to get hung 464 00:24:41,910 --> 00:24:45,430 S1: up on is, okay, so we're talking with people in Nashville. 465 00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:48,390 S1: We're talking with singer songwriters. That's the only people who 466 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:53,270 S1: can learn from your story, know whatever it is that 467 00:24:53,270 --> 00:24:57,230 S1: you're striving for, whatever it is that you're chasing, whatever 468 00:24:57,230 --> 00:25:02,950 S1: your definition of success. Put that in the line. And 469 00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:06,750 S1: I think what Drew's message for all of us is, 470 00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:11,109 S1: it's unless God is part of that equation or all 471 00:25:11,150 --> 00:25:14,590 S1: of that equation, you're going to come it's going to 472 00:25:14,590 --> 00:25:17,070 S1: be empty at the end of the day. So let 473 00:25:17,070 --> 00:25:18,989 S1: me take a break. We'll come back. I want you 474 00:25:18,990 --> 00:25:22,469 S1: to hear his song, Blame Jesus. If you haven't heard it, 475 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:25,550 S1: you're going to hear it next. And then I want 476 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:28,710 S1: to ask some of those questions about success, or what 477 00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:30,909 S1: you would say to a younger person who says, I've 478 00:25:30,910 --> 00:25:33,229 S1: got this dream, I want to move to Nashville, or 479 00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:34,830 S1: I've got a dream, and I want to have a 480 00:25:34,830 --> 00:25:37,750 S1: TV show and do a cooking show or whatever the 481 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:40,310 S1: dream is. I want you to talk to that person 482 00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:44,390 S1: or the 24 year old drew, and we'll do that 483 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:46,350 S1: when we come back. And if you want to ask 484 00:25:46,350 --> 00:26:04,510 S1: a question, make a comment to drew. (877) 548-3675. Grammy and 485 00:26:04,510 --> 00:26:07,950 S1: CMA Award nominated singer songwriter Drew Parker is our guest 486 00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:10,910 S1: today at the radio backyard fence. This is his song 487 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:12,310 S1: Blame Jesus. 488 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:17,869 S4: Yeah, I've been known to burn it down. Burn every 489 00:26:17,869 --> 00:26:21,870 S4: bridge on every side of town. Just a lit match. 490 00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:29,350 S4: Looking for Guess. I was a wild horse. I lost 491 00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:33,510 S4: my way. I broke my heart just to watch it break. 492 00:26:33,950 --> 00:26:38,870 S4: I brought a ghoul, a rebel on the loose in street. 493 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:44,390 S4: These days, if you look at me. And what you see. 494 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:48,909 S4: Ain't what you used to see. Blame Jesus, blame the cross. 495 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:54,629 S4: Blame the blood that washed it all. Blame mercy, blame 496 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:59,629 S4: the scars. Blame the Savior who changed my heart. Blame 497 00:26:59,630 --> 00:27:05,510 S4: the stone that rolled away. Blame that all amazing grace. 498 00:27:05,790 --> 00:27:16,790 S4: If you're wondering why I can't be who I was. Blame. Jesus. Jesus. 499 00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:26,830 S4: Thought I was born to proof. Thought I was Superman. 500 00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:31,110 S4: Till this old boy heard about a man up on 501 00:27:31,109 --> 00:27:35,030 S4: the hill. Walked out of the grave. I'm forever changed. 502 00:27:35,030 --> 00:27:39,790 S4: That's why I blame Jesus. Blame the cross. Blame the 503 00:27:39,790 --> 00:27:45,550 S4: blood that washed it all. Blame mercy, blame the scars. 504 00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:50,390 S4: Blame the Savior who changed my heart. Blame the stone 505 00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:56,510 S4: that rolled away. Blame that all. Amazing grace. If you're 506 00:27:56,510 --> 00:28:03,909 S4: wondering why I can't be who I was. Blame Jesus. 507 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:15,550 S4: Blame Jesus for washing away my sin, my guilt, my shame. 508 00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:19,869 S4: Blame Jesus and the price he paid for who I 509 00:28:19,869 --> 00:28:38,830 S4: am and who I ain't blame Jesus. Jesus. Blame the cross. 510 00:28:39,270 --> 00:28:44,630 S4: Blame the blood that washed it all. Blame mercy, blame 511 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:49,670 S4: the scars. Blame the Savior who changed my heart. Blame 512 00:28:49,670 --> 00:28:55,270 S4: the stone that rolled away. Blame that all. Amazing grace. 513 00:28:55,910 --> 00:29:00,270 S4: If you're wondering why I can't be who I was. 514 00:29:02,350 --> 00:29:10,630 S4: Blame Jesus. Blame Jesus. 515 00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:31,550 S1: Drew Parker blame Jesus. I want you to hear that 516 00:29:31,550 --> 00:29:35,150 S1: song today. And, uh, maybe that's your song as well. 517 00:29:35,390 --> 00:29:37,270 S1: I was going to ask you where that song came from, 518 00:29:37,270 --> 00:29:40,710 S1: but you've really already told us that. That it comes, 519 00:29:40,750 --> 00:29:42,989 S1: you know, from your life, your heart. I want you 520 00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:46,030 S1: to go a slightly different direction. Tell me about the 521 00:29:46,030 --> 00:29:48,790 S1: process of writing that, because I see a lot of 522 00:29:48,790 --> 00:29:54,350 S1: these songs, country or otherwise, have multiple people behind them. 523 00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:58,590 S1: And this one, Dan Wilson, Ray Fulcher and you. So 524 00:29:58,590 --> 00:30:01,950 S1: how does that work together when you're writing songs? 525 00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:05,350 S2: Yeah. So I mean, for me, it always starts with 526 00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:08,670 S2: an idea. Um, and that idea is usually in the 527 00:30:08,670 --> 00:30:12,670 S2: form of a title. And, you know, I honestly, one 528 00:30:12,670 --> 00:30:16,350 S2: day I was just sitting around thinking about kind of 529 00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:19,710 S2: what God's done in my life and, you know, for 530 00:30:19,710 --> 00:30:22,670 S2: so many years. And in the music business, I mean, 531 00:30:23,270 --> 00:30:26,110 S2: we take credit for, you know, the success and the 532 00:30:26,110 --> 00:30:30,470 S2: things that we do. Like, you know, we wrote such 533 00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:33,270 S2: and such song. It had success like, and, you know, 534 00:30:33,310 --> 00:30:34,950 S2: whether I wrote that song with somebody else or whatever, 535 00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:36,550 S2: we take credit for it. And I got to think 536 00:30:36,550 --> 00:30:38,150 S2: about where I was in my life at the time, 537 00:30:38,150 --> 00:30:40,590 S2: and I was like, I can't take credit for any 538 00:30:40,590 --> 00:30:44,229 S2: of this. Like it. And if and there's gonna. And 539 00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:45,910 S2: then I started thinking about, well, there's going to be 540 00:30:45,910 --> 00:30:48,910 S2: people that are going to look at this new direction 541 00:30:48,910 --> 00:30:50,790 S2: I'm going and they're either not going to like it 542 00:30:50,790 --> 00:30:54,310 S2: or they're going to think, is he crazy? He's leaving. 543 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:57,670 S2: What does he do? You know, and I can only 544 00:30:57,670 --> 00:31:00,430 S2: blame you. Can you can't blame me for for making 545 00:31:00,430 --> 00:31:02,830 S2: the change. You can only blame Jesus. And so I 546 00:31:02,830 --> 00:31:05,510 S2: was like, well, that's an interesting thought. Blame Jesus. Like, 547 00:31:05,870 --> 00:31:08,310 S2: if somebody saw that title, they would be what would? 548 00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:11,950 S2: Why would you ever blame Jesus for anything? I was like, well, 549 00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:13,670 S2: you blame him for not being able to be the 550 00:31:13,670 --> 00:31:16,510 S2: person you used to be anymore. And so I sat 551 00:31:16,510 --> 00:31:20,630 S2: down with, um Dan and. And Ray. Ray is one 552 00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:22,630 S2: of my best friends in the entire world. We've been 553 00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:24,950 S2: friends for over ten years, and we've written a lot 554 00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:27,550 S2: of songs together. And anyway, they they had kind of 555 00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:30,710 S2: I had told them the story of this new direction 556 00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:32,590 S2: I was going to go, and I was like, I 557 00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:34,670 S2: have this idea. And they both fell in love with 558 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:38,270 S2: fell in love with it. And obviously we weren't. I mean, 559 00:31:39,630 --> 00:31:43,350 S2: I don't they were so gracious to let me like 560 00:31:43,510 --> 00:31:46,110 S2: kind of tell my story in this song and, and 561 00:31:46,110 --> 00:31:48,710 S2: just kind of help guide it and, and direct it. 562 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:51,630 S2: And um, I've written many songs with them over the years. 563 00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:53,710 S2: And so it was they were the perfect two to, 564 00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:56,310 S2: to kind of write this first song with and the 565 00:31:56,350 --> 00:31:57,830 S2: at least the first one I was going to put out. 566 00:31:57,830 --> 00:32:00,910 S2: And so, um, but yeah, it always starts with an 567 00:32:00,910 --> 00:32:03,150 S2: idea with I think every good song starts with a 568 00:32:03,150 --> 00:32:05,630 S2: good idea. And for me it was just a title. 569 00:32:05,630 --> 00:32:06,590 S2: In this instance. 570 00:32:06,910 --> 00:32:12,030 S1: Yeah. I want to find out at least two more questions. Success. 571 00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:14,830 S1: How do you define success? Now I want to find 572 00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:17,830 S1: out the rest of the story with Cappy, but Kirk 573 00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:20,070 S1: is on the line from Florida. Kirk, why did you 574 00:32:20,110 --> 00:32:20,750 S1: call today? 575 00:32:22,390 --> 00:32:25,750 S5: Well, I did for two reasons. Uh, drew, your story 576 00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:29,030 S5: is my story right now, and but I'm where you 577 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:31,790 S5: were when you were waiting for an answer from God 578 00:32:32,430 --> 00:32:35,030 S5: before I'd go further in that I want. Chris, I 579 00:32:35,030 --> 00:32:38,710 S5: want to tell you something that, uh, I've come to realize. 580 00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:41,990 S5: Your greatest gift to us on the radio is your humility. 581 00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:45,190 S5: I heard you do the Chris Brooks Show a couple 582 00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:48,510 S5: of days ago for the 10th anniversary. And it wasn't 583 00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:51,350 S5: about you. I mean, you kept. I. All I could 584 00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:54,110 S5: hear was the humility of trying to celebrate this other 585 00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:58,310 S5: man's success and so forth. So. And Chris Fabry, I 586 00:32:58,870 --> 00:33:01,910 S5: really enjoy your show all the time because you're just 587 00:33:02,110 --> 00:33:04,790 S5: you're always lifting other people up just like you are 588 00:33:04,790 --> 00:33:06,950 S5: drew today. So thank you. 589 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:08,630 S1: Very kind of you. Thank you. 590 00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:15,880 S5: Drew, uh, I've been in construction 90% of my life, And, uh, 591 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,960 S5: when I got out of the field in 2003, I 592 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,960 S5: got into licensed plan review in the state of Florida, 593 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,520 S5: where I now live and work my way up. And, 594 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,920 S5: you know, I was at the top of my game 595 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,240 S5: and my job pays $35 an hour because I've got 596 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,400 S5: two Florida licenses and I can approve building permits and 597 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,200 S5: mechanical permits. But that job got taken away from me 598 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,720 S5: because some people wanted to get rid of me. And 599 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,240 S5: I don't know why it happened. And it's been a 600 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,600 S5: three month process of being kicked in the gut. But 601 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,200 S5: I keep saying to God, you know, God, if you 602 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,200 S5: want me to change and do something different, please just 603 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,400 S5: let me know, because there's been something down inside of 604 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,280 S5: me and some of what you said in your testimony about. Yeah, 605 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,080 S5: I've been in men's ministry, and so I can open 606 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,640 S5: the Bible and lead people to Christ and things like that. 607 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,360 S5: I've gone overseas and done mission work and all that, 608 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,880 S5: but I have not been a deep digger in the Bible. 609 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,080 S5: For the first time. I started to read through the 610 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,200 S5: Bible this this January, and I'm on day 13 and 611 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,080 S5: with the Bible app with Charlie Covell. But help me 612 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,000 S5: know what to do next. Am I supposed to step away? 613 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,439 S5: And how do I find out for sure? Whatever God 614 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,280 S5: wants me to do, I'm available. And I turned 80 615 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,480 S5: in May and I'm so excited about life. 616 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,120 S1: Wow, you sound like you're about 35. 617 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,680 S5: Kirk, I. 618 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,640 S1: Know that something. 619 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,960 S5: Tells me that all the time. 620 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,480 S1: Yeah, okay. All right, so, drew, I know you can't. 621 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,959 S1: You can't tell Kirk what to do, but. Yeah, from 622 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,400 S1: your own life. Go ahead. 623 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,239 S2: Yeah. You know, Kirk, I for me, I, I think 624 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,880 S2: my answer came so, so crazy in such a way. 625 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,600 S2: And I think a lot of times we pray. I mean, honestly, 626 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,080 S2: when I prayed and asked God, God sent me a sign. 627 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,960 S2: I'll be honest, I don't know that I had the 628 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,160 S2: faith to think that God was going to answer it, 629 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,480 S2: especially not in the way that he did. And I 630 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,400 S2: think so many times we want clarity before we move. 631 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,920 S2: And God often gives clarity after we move in faith. Um, 632 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,920 S2: I think clarity usually clarity usually follows obedience. And God 633 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,239 S2: wants to recognize obedience. God wants to see us in 634 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,800 S2: His Word, and God wants us in in constant communication 635 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,960 S2: with him. You know, if God answered every prayer immediately, 636 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,759 S2: I think we would begin to trust the answer and 637 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,920 S2: not trust the answerer, if that makes sense. 638 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,480 S1: Or if you said yes every time. Right. 639 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,760 S2: Yeah. For sure. I think waiting teaches us to depend 640 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,480 S2: on who God is and not to, and to know 641 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,839 S2: that we aren't in control of it, but to give 642 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,959 S2: it all to him. Um, and and to grow in 643 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:13,920 S2: community and communication with the Lord. Um, you know, your emotions. 644 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,600 S2: I think our emotions aren't good indicators, um, of God's presence. 645 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,440 S2: I think he's here. Whether we feel him there, I 646 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,000 S2: know he is. I know he's there. Whether we feel 647 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000 S2: him there or not. I mean it in Psalm. He 648 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,640 S2: even says the Lord is near to the brokenhearted. You know, 649 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,680 S2: whether no matter what the situation is that we're going through. 650 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,480 S1: And so I can't believe that because I had Psalm 651 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,040 S1: 34 open right here. Wow. And that's verse 18, the 652 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,279 S1: Lord is near the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit. 653 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,480 S1: And what I heard from you, Kirk, was, uh, part 654 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,000 S1: of this. Your question is the fear that you're going 655 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,160 S1: to miss it. You're going to God's going to point 656 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,080 S1: you in a direction. You're going to miss it. Oh, no, 657 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,520 S1: I missed that. So what is what is the answer 658 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,400 S1: to that? I'd say go to Psalm 34. Read through 659 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,280 S1: that in your current situation and let that fourth verse 660 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,200 S1: wash over you too. I sought the Lord, and he 661 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:11,719 S1: answered me and delivered me from all my fears. So 662 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,680 S1: those fears that are grabbing Ahold of you. And that you. 663 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,080 S1: Which way am I going to go? Or, you know, 664 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,320 S1: this is when David was being sought and he's, uh, 665 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,120 S1: he's there in, in, uh, before abimalek. I think that's 666 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,839 S1: in Gath. Um, this is, you know, he's in in 667 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,640 S1: the in the presence of his enemies right here. And 668 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,080 S1: so think of all the fears that he has that 669 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,560 S1: can wash over him. And he chooses to say, I 670 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,080 S1: sought the Lord, and he answered me. It doesn't say 671 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,680 S1: how long it took, though. And I think that's one 672 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,160 S1: of the things, drew, that you're saying. No matter how 673 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,480 S1: long it takes, I'm going to I'm going to stay 674 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,040 S1: with you. So, Kirk, I want you to hang on. 675 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,480 S1: Stay with us today. Uh, I want to get your information. 676 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,480 S1: Tricia will get your information. I'd love to send you something. 677 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,600 S1: Thank you for your kind words about me and hearing 678 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,560 S1: the program the other day. God bless you, friend. You 679 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,919 S1: hang in there. Keep listening. And whatever God does, you 680 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,839 S1: blame Jesus and we'll be back. With more from Drew 681 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,560 S1: Parker straight ahead. 682 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,120 S4: Blame Jesus. 683 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,680 S1: Let me read you something from a listener in Missoula, Montana. 684 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,319 S1: He gave a gift yesterday. God has put the love 685 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,399 S1: of the Jewish people on my heart since I was 686 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,279 S1: a child in the 80s, and I learned about the Holocaust. Recently, 687 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,320 S1: he has intensified this love into an avid curiosity, joy, 688 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,239 S1: and fervent prayer for their increasing rate of belief in 689 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,239 S1: Jesus as Messiah. It is happening. Hearing of Doctor Redlich's 690 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,279 S1: book pushes my joy over the top. I want to 691 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,799 S1: help right where I live. We can only help when 692 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,520 S1: we know the right way. Thank you for offering that book. 693 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,400 S1: And she's talking about how should Christians think about Israel. 694 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,200 S1: I'd love to send you a copy it. It's concise. 695 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,440 S1: It's also timely. And that's why I wanted to give 696 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,719 S1: it away here. Call or click through today. Give a 697 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:44,120 S1: gift of any size. 86695538669532279. Or go to Chris Talk. 698 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,560 S1: Scroll down. You'll see how you can give right there 699 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,839 S1: here in January. And thank you for your support of 700 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,359 S1: the radio backyard fence. If you go to that website. Chris. 701 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,040 S1: Org click through today's information. You'll see more about Drew Parker. 702 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,680 S1: So talk about success. The way that you viewed success 703 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,480 S1: at 24 was I'm going to have some hits and 704 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,000 S1: I'm going to be famous and I'm going to travel 705 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,920 S1: and tours. ET cetera, et cetera. But the thing that 706 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,240 S1: we've been talking about the last couple of years here 707 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:18,000 S1: is the gold is in the process. It's in the 708 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,040 S1: middle of what you're doing. It's not the outcome of 709 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,160 S1: of the thing that we're striving for. It's in the 710 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,440 S1: process right here in the day to day. Do you 711 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,280 S1: agree with that? 712 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,320 S2: Oh, absolutely. I mean, we all want the moment, you know, 713 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:38,359 S2: the platform, you know. But but the real treasure is found. 714 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,480 S2: You know, when you arrive, it's found in who you 715 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,439 S2: become on your way there, down, you know, going down 716 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,840 S2: the road, you know, that's where the process is, the refining. 717 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,520 S2: It's where God shapes our character, builds our faith, breaks 718 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,400 S2: the walls of our pride. Uh, teach us. Teaches us 719 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:03,760 S2: real dependence on him strengthens our obedience. Um, you know, 720 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,280 S2: there's a pastor that I love, and I actually mentioned 721 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,439 S2: him in my little video. His name's Jobby Martin. He's 722 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,319 S2: been discipling me for the last year and a half. And, um, 723 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200 S2: he says this one thing that he used to coach 724 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,200 S2: his son's little league or maybe middle or high school 725 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,960 S2: football team, I can't remember exactly, but they're all working 726 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,880 S2: out in the weight room, in the gym. And he says, 727 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,120 S2: I just he says they're all kind of messing around 728 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,080 S2: and playing around. And he says, everybody wants to be big. 729 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,040 S2: Nobody wants to be sore. And I was like, that 730 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,319 S2: is the most incredible analogy for for the gold is 731 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,240 S2: in the process, not the not the outcome. And I'm like, 732 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,520 S2: everybody wants to be big. Nobody wants to be sore. 733 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,319 S2: I'm like, that is incredible. If we skip the grind 734 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,279 S2: to chase the look of being big, we wouldn't even 735 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,560 S2: have the strength to carry it, you know what I mean? Like, 736 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,200 S2: it's it's so good. 737 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,240 S1: Think of John the Baptist. Okay, so John the Baptist 738 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,279 S1: has got this five year plan and he's going to 739 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,040 S1: do this and that. We're going to get more followers 740 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,600 S1: and more baptisms. ET cetera. ET cetera. No. And here 741 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,440 S1: he is in prison, you know, and he can't do 742 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,440 S1: the thing that God had called him to do. So, 743 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,280 S1: you know, he's less than. No, no, he's he's following 744 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,240 S1: God's will right there. He's being used of God right there. 745 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:26,360 S1: But his cry was, he must increase, I must decrease. Right. 746 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,640 S2: Mhm. For sure. And if you think about it like, um, 747 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,560 S2: the gold for John the Baptist was in the wilderness. 748 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,440 S2: That's where he was refined. 749 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,120 S1: Exactly. And I, uh, I've been on the John the 750 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,160 S1: Baptist diet lately. It's working a locust for breakfast, a 751 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:53,359 S1: locust for lunch, and a sensible dinner. Where are you, Ryan? Where? 752 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,160 S1: I need you, okay. So? So, Cappie, you mentioned Cappie. Yeah. 753 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,720 S1: Who's not a Christian? Who called you up and said, 754 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,610 S1: I feel like you need to sing songs about Jesus. 755 00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:04,410 S1: What happened to him? 756 00:43:05,370 --> 00:43:09,570 S2: Uh, so Cappy's been my manager in music for over ten, 757 00:43:09,610 --> 00:43:15,050 S2: over ten years now, and, uh, um, and so, yeah, 758 00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:17,089 S2: he calls me up out of the blue. He's like, man, 759 00:43:17,090 --> 00:43:19,370 S2: I don't know how to tell you this, but I've 760 00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:21,489 S2: been waking up in the middle of the night for 761 00:43:21,489 --> 00:43:22,930 S2: the last week, and I feel like I'm supposed to 762 00:43:22,930 --> 00:43:24,170 S2: tell you something. And I'm like, well, what are you 763 00:43:24,170 --> 00:43:26,169 S2: supposed to tell me? At this point? I'm thinking, okay, 764 00:43:26,210 --> 00:43:31,250 S2: I've just prayed this prayer on December 1st, 2024. Five 765 00:43:31,250 --> 00:43:34,290 S2: days later, December 6th, Cappy's calling me. And I'm thinking, okay, well, 766 00:43:34,290 --> 00:43:37,010 S2: here's an answer from God. And Cappy's about to drop 767 00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:39,170 S2: me and he doesn't want to work with me anymore 768 00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:41,690 S2: and my career is over. That's literally what I'm thinking 769 00:43:41,690 --> 00:43:43,890 S2: as he's, like beating around the bush trying to tell me, 770 00:43:44,290 --> 00:43:46,610 S2: and I'm like, okay, well, what is it you're supposed 771 00:43:46,610 --> 00:43:48,049 S2: to tell me? And he's like, man, I don't know 772 00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:49,690 S2: how to tell you this, but for the last week, 773 00:43:50,090 --> 00:43:51,610 S2: I've been waking up in the middle of the night, 774 00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:54,450 S2: and I feel this voice telling me that I'm supposed 775 00:43:54,450 --> 00:43:56,250 S2: to tell you you're supposed to be a Christian artist 776 00:43:56,489 --> 00:44:01,529 S2: and sing songs about Jesus, and I'm just just undone 777 00:44:01,530 --> 00:44:03,690 S2: in this moment. I don't even know what to think. 778 00:44:03,690 --> 00:44:07,370 S2: Because I've known Cathy for so many years and I 779 00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:10,410 S2: know Cappie's not not a believer. And so I'm like, 780 00:44:10,450 --> 00:44:12,450 S2: what in the world? This is so odd to me 781 00:44:12,450 --> 00:44:15,690 S2: that obviously I've just prayed this prayer and God is 782 00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:18,610 S2: answering it through an unbeliever. What what does this mean? 783 00:44:18,650 --> 00:44:23,370 S2: And so but man, Cappie is I would say to 784 00:44:23,410 --> 00:44:26,689 S2: this day he's still technically an unbeliever. But man, God 785 00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:30,410 S2: is doing something miraculous in his life. And I think 786 00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:33,570 S2: Cappie is just the Holy Spirit is working on him. 787 00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:36,490 S2: And man, it's just it's been such a beautiful thing, 788 00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:39,250 S2: and I can't wait to one day tell everybody that 789 00:44:39,570 --> 00:44:41,850 S2: that Cappie has surrendered his life to Jesus. And and 790 00:44:41,850 --> 00:44:43,730 S2: I truly think it's going to happen one day. I mean, 791 00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:46,370 S2: the Lord is truly working on him. He came to 792 00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:49,690 S2: church with me for the very first time this past December. 793 00:44:49,969 --> 00:44:50,569 S1: Really? 794 00:44:50,610 --> 00:44:53,410 S2: Um, yes he did. And man, it was such a 795 00:44:53,410 --> 00:44:56,969 S2: moving service. And, you know, he thanked me for inviting him. 796 00:44:56,969 --> 00:44:59,970 S2: It's just been it's going to be so beautiful and 797 00:44:59,969 --> 00:45:04,930 S2: I'm so grateful for him hearing and being, you know. Yes, 798 00:45:04,969 --> 00:45:07,250 S2: hearing the voice of the Lord and relaying that message 799 00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:09,089 S2: to me, it's it's just beautiful there. 800 00:45:09,090 --> 00:45:12,210 S1: Again, it's not the outcome. It's not the you know, 801 00:45:12,250 --> 00:45:14,609 S1: I he just has to become a Christian. And you 802 00:45:14,610 --> 00:45:17,410 S1: pray for that. It's the process. You're going to love 803 00:45:17,410 --> 00:45:20,489 S1: him in the process no matter what he decides, because 804 00:45:20,489 --> 00:45:22,850 S1: it's his decision. You know, he has to I can't. 805 00:45:23,050 --> 00:45:23,689 S2: I can't save. 806 00:45:23,690 --> 00:45:27,490 S1: Him. Exactly. And it's the same with anybody listening right now. 807 00:45:27,610 --> 00:45:30,330 S1: You got somebody that you've been praying for and you, 808 00:45:30,370 --> 00:45:34,650 S1: you know, like like Cathy and Drew's life. Don't you 809 00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:38,009 S1: dare stop praying. Don't you dare stop loving them. Stay 810 00:45:38,010 --> 00:45:40,410 S1: in their life. Stay present. As you were saying a 811 00:45:40,410 --> 00:45:44,170 S1: little earlier. Drew, I'm so glad we got to have 812 00:45:44,170 --> 00:45:47,049 S1: this program. This. I'm going to get email from people. This. 813 00:45:47,050 --> 00:45:49,930 S1: That was so encouraging. It gave me a a shot 814 00:45:49,930 --> 00:45:53,930 S1: in the arm, you know, a good a kick, you know, 815 00:45:54,010 --> 00:45:58,129 S1: to be able to say you know what Really it 816 00:45:58,130 --> 00:46:01,569 S1: is all about him and. And how bold am I 817 00:46:01,610 --> 00:46:06,450 S1: going to be with my lips and my life for 818 00:46:06,450 --> 00:46:09,689 S1: God to have access? So thanks for sharing your story, drew. 819 00:46:09,730 --> 00:46:10,770 S1: God bless you, friend. 820 00:46:11,489 --> 00:46:14,290 S2: Amen. Thank you so much. You know, we're not supposed 821 00:46:14,290 --> 00:46:16,569 S2: to wait for the perfect conditions. We're just supposed to 822 00:46:16,570 --> 00:46:20,530 S2: take the next step of obedience. And God, you know, 823 00:46:20,570 --> 00:46:22,969 S2: will continue to open doors as long as we're walking 824 00:46:23,450 --> 00:46:26,049 S2: in his light and being obedient towards his will for 825 00:46:26,050 --> 00:46:26,570 S2: our life. 826 00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:31,089 S1: Well, I hope you'll pray for drew and the platform 827 00:46:31,090 --> 00:46:33,290 S1: that God has given him, the place that he's put 828 00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:36,169 S1: him in as a dad and as a husband, and 829 00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:39,810 S1: as a singer songwriter and as a friend. Uh, pray 830 00:46:39,810 --> 00:46:41,810 S1: for him and come back and see us soon. Drew. 831 00:46:41,810 --> 00:46:44,050 S1: And thank you for listening. Chris Fabry live a production 832 00:46:44,050 --> 00:46:47,770 S1: of Moody Radio, a ministry of Moody Bible Institute.