1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,680 S1: Let those who want to honor their moms unite today 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,280 S1: at the Radio Backyard fence. We want to hear your 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:16,000 S1: response to this entreaty. Choose one word to describe your mother. 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,680 S1: What one word comes to mind when you think about 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,680 S1: dear old mom? Tell me that word and why you 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,800 S1: chose it. As we begin this Friday before Mother's Day 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,080 S1: edition of Chris Fabry Live, the program from the heart 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,840 S1: to the heart for the heart. I have a special 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,800 S1: guest ready who has a word or two in mind 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:39,519 S1: about his mom. Let me hear from you at (877) 548-3675. 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,000 S1: That's how you reach us today. Let me thank our team. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 S1: Ryan McConaughey doing all things technical. Trish is our producer. 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,800 S1: Lisa is helping out. Josh will answer your calls. And 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,160 S1: since it's Friday. That's right. It's time for the fabulous 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,680 S1: Fabry Friday. Sy here's what it does. One we oxygenate 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,160 S1: your blood. Two, we get your endorphins going. Three, we 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:03,000 S1: raise your serotonin. level four. We promote lymphatic drainage and five, 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,160 S1: we stimulate your parasympathetic system. That's why we call it 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,880 S1: the five lung languages. We also stimulate your vagus nerve. 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,560 S1: We help you release acetylcholine. And don't you dare forget 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,120 S1: what it does. The cortisol dissipation taking four seconds of 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,640 S1: air through your nose right now. Hold it for seconds. 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,760 S1: And then as you release that air through your mouth, 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,880 S1: push on the left side of your rib cage to 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,640 S1: get rid of all that bad carbon dioxide. Give a 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,319 S1: sigh today for Renee's mom, who's one word is merciful. 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,600 S1: Carol says her word for her mom is intercessor. Great 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,320 S1: legacy here on the day after the National Day of Prayer. 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,280 S1: How about this from Linda encouraging. Mom was always my cheerleader. 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,360 S1: She left this earth last summer. I miss her, but 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,920 S1: let me venture a guess about Linda. I'll bet she 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,160 S1: can still hear the cheers of her mom. Barbara says 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,760 S1: her mom was devoted. How about you? What's your one 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,720 S1: word for your mom? Fabulous favorite Friday. Say is brought 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,850 S1: to you by Moody Radio, this station and the society 36 00:01:58,890 --> 00:02:02,530 S1: for the Preservation and Promulgation of Happy Moms Hearts on 37 00:02:02,530 --> 00:02:06,290 S1: Mother's Day and every day. I love these kind of 38 00:02:06,290 --> 00:02:09,929 S1: programs because we get to honor your mom. Father's day, 39 00:02:09,930 --> 00:02:11,970 S1: we honor your dad, and we just kind of open 40 00:02:11,970 --> 00:02:14,889 S1: up the lines and we let the love flow. And 41 00:02:14,889 --> 00:02:18,049 S1: I realize even from looking at the responses on Facebook 42 00:02:18,050 --> 00:02:22,369 S1: today that not everybody had the best experience with mom. 43 00:02:22,370 --> 00:02:26,049 S1: For some of you, Mother's Day is difficult because you 44 00:02:26,050 --> 00:02:30,410 S1: had a difficult mother. And that is real. And we 45 00:02:30,410 --> 00:02:34,610 S1: acknowledge that truth here at the outset. So our hope 46 00:02:34,610 --> 00:02:36,889 S1: here is not to pile on not not that it's 47 00:02:36,889 --> 00:02:40,169 S1: going to what we talk about with moms is will 48 00:02:40,169 --> 00:02:42,850 S1: hurt you in any way, but bring a little bit 49 00:02:42,889 --> 00:02:46,250 S1: of healing and hope for you. I wanted to bring 50 00:02:46,250 --> 00:02:50,410 S1: someone along whose mother I knew personally and go to 51 00:02:50,450 --> 00:02:52,850 S1: him first, and then he's going to stick around and 52 00:02:52,850 --> 00:02:55,329 S1: see what good places of the heart we can go together. 53 00:02:55,570 --> 00:02:59,929 S1: He actually Suggested the conversation for today in that word. 54 00:03:00,330 --> 00:03:03,610 S1: Credit where credit is due. His name is Brad Hutchcraft. 55 00:03:03,650 --> 00:03:07,810 S1: He is executive vice president of Hutchcraft Ministries. Been in 56 00:03:07,810 --> 00:03:11,970 S1: full time ministry for some 30 years, graduated in Wheaton College, 57 00:03:11,970 --> 00:03:16,130 S1: and then served on a southwest reservation in Arizona for 58 00:03:16,130 --> 00:03:19,810 S1: more than 14 years before relocating to serve as the 59 00:03:19,810 --> 00:03:24,049 S1: director of On Eagle's Wings about 15 or 16 years ago. 60 00:03:24,090 --> 00:03:26,570 S1: You see and hear him on the Go Mad podcast. 61 00:03:26,570 --> 00:03:29,290 S1: If you haven't linked into that with Doug and Brad, 62 00:03:29,290 --> 00:03:32,370 S1: you got to. Brad and his wife, Sarah were married 63 00:03:32,370 --> 00:03:36,050 S1: in 2003. You can do the math. They have three children. 64 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:40,010 S1: They live in Harrison, Arkansas. Brad Hutchcraft, how you doing today? 65 00:03:40,530 --> 00:03:42,890 S2: I'm doing great. It is so good to be with 66 00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:43,890 S2: you today, Chris. 67 00:03:44,410 --> 00:03:46,970 S1: You get to pick more than one word today. We're 68 00:03:46,970 --> 00:03:48,210 S1: going to give you a lot of words, but I 69 00:03:48,210 --> 00:03:51,610 S1: want you to start with, if I were to say, Brad, 70 00:03:51,610 --> 00:03:54,290 S1: push up against the wall. Brad. One word. What leaps 71 00:03:54,290 --> 00:03:57,130 S1: into your mind when you think about your mom? 72 00:03:57,690 --> 00:03:59,570 S2: Well, I wish I had been listening better because I 73 00:03:59,570 --> 00:04:04,690 S2: thought you said one page, so no, I, I, I actually, 74 00:04:04,690 --> 00:04:07,730 S2: I think of all the words that come to mind. 75 00:04:08,170 --> 00:04:13,410 S2: I'd probably lean into wise, uh, wisdom. I think, uh, 76 00:04:13,410 --> 00:04:15,490 S2: when it comes to mom, there are so many other 77 00:04:15,490 --> 00:04:19,890 S2: things that stem from that. Uh, I just learned so 78 00:04:19,930 --> 00:04:23,969 S2: much from her. Um, and looking back, you know, growing up, 79 00:04:23,970 --> 00:04:27,890 S2: you think you know everything, and, uh, then you get 80 00:04:27,890 --> 00:04:30,810 S2: to college and you're like, wow, I know nothing. And 81 00:04:30,970 --> 00:04:34,130 S2: you start thinking of the things that your parents taught 82 00:04:34,130 --> 00:04:37,490 S2: you and so many things that I and then I went, 83 00:04:37,490 --> 00:04:40,010 S2: when I went into full time ministry, the same thing, 84 00:04:40,010 --> 00:04:43,409 S2: I just kept going back to things that mom had 85 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:45,970 S2: taught me and some of the things that I was like, well, 86 00:04:45,970 --> 00:04:47,650 S2: that doesn't seem to make much sense. Or why do 87 00:04:47,650 --> 00:04:49,930 S2: we have to do it that way? And all of 88 00:04:49,930 --> 00:04:53,450 S2: a sudden the pieces start falling into place and I'm like, oh, wow. 89 00:04:53,570 --> 00:04:57,170 S2: She was really, really, really wise. 90 00:04:57,529 --> 00:05:01,290 S1: So it's in looking back at the moment, you knew 91 00:05:01,330 --> 00:05:04,050 S1: she was wise, but you didn't know how wise until 92 00:05:04,050 --> 00:05:05,170 S1: you looked back, right? 93 00:05:05,210 --> 00:05:08,969 S2: Yes. Yep. For sure. And I think that it was 94 00:05:09,330 --> 00:05:13,970 S2: sometimes it was pride that, you know, she's right. And 95 00:05:13,970 --> 00:05:17,050 S2: but you're going to push back. Um, I think that 96 00:05:17,089 --> 00:05:20,130 S2: I one of the things I'm very grateful for is, 97 00:05:20,250 --> 00:05:23,330 S2: you know, my mom, she went to be with the Lord. 98 00:05:23,330 --> 00:05:28,010 S2: We're just about ten years ago now on May 16th, 2016. 99 00:05:28,410 --> 00:05:32,210 S2: And I for that was completely unexpected. Honestly, at the time, 100 00:05:32,210 --> 00:05:35,570 S2: none of us knew what was coming. Um, grief is 101 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:40,130 S2: a freight train. And, uh, very, uh, you can't it's 102 00:05:40,130 --> 00:05:43,090 S2: it's unique to each person. Uh, we learned a lot 103 00:05:43,089 --> 00:05:45,850 S2: through that process and we miss her a lot. But 104 00:05:45,890 --> 00:05:48,970 S2: I am so grateful because in my life, I got 105 00:05:48,970 --> 00:05:52,170 S2: a lot of years with her. And so as I 106 00:05:52,210 --> 00:05:55,060 S2: walk through life, there's times I look back on from 107 00:05:55,060 --> 00:05:58,099 S2: when I was a kid and I'm like, man, mom 108 00:05:58,140 --> 00:06:01,780 S2: taught me that then. And then looking to college and 109 00:06:01,779 --> 00:06:04,340 S2: then in ministry. And then when I moved here to 110 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:07,460 S2: our headquarters and got a few years of working alongside 111 00:06:07,460 --> 00:06:09,780 S2: her and being able to look back, I go back 112 00:06:09,779 --> 00:06:13,739 S2: to that well of wisdom so often where I'm just like, man, 113 00:06:13,779 --> 00:06:15,860 S2: how how would mom have done this? How would she 114 00:06:15,860 --> 00:06:18,779 S2: go about this? And, and I learned so much from 115 00:06:18,779 --> 00:06:21,940 S2: her along the way. So just grateful that she had 116 00:06:21,940 --> 00:06:26,180 S2: patience with me. Uh, and I, I will say I'm 117 00:06:26,180 --> 00:06:31,060 S2: also grateful that I know the source of her wisdom because, um, 118 00:06:31,580 --> 00:06:38,700 S2: she was a praying, praying, praying mom. I, there is, I, I, actually, I, 119 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:44,260 S2: I have with me here, um, dad in I eight 120 00:06:44,260 --> 00:06:47,260 S2: years ago, he, uh, gave me for Christmas and, and 121 00:06:47,260 --> 00:06:51,419 S2: each of the kids just, uh, photocopied some of mom's 122 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:56,140 S2: prayer journal entries. And I have that here. And I 123 00:06:56,140 --> 00:06:58,580 S2: was reading through it again last night. And it's a 124 00:06:58,580 --> 00:07:00,460 S2: good thing I did then because I didn't want to 125 00:07:00,460 --> 00:07:04,500 S2: be a complete wreck on air today, but, um, there's 126 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:10,980 S2: prayer entries from 1994, 2005, then back to 95, then 2008, 127 00:07:11,140 --> 00:07:14,700 S2: and it covers everything I see in her prayer journal. 128 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:18,180 S2: Just my name, all the names of her children, her 129 00:07:18,180 --> 00:07:22,620 S2: husband's name, her grandchildren, native young people, the entire ministry 130 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:26,740 S2: that she co-founded with my dad, honest conversations with the Lord. 131 00:07:26,740 --> 00:07:30,820 S2: And I see how she was praying for me, even 132 00:07:30,820 --> 00:07:34,580 S2: when I maybe didn't even know what I needed prayer for. 133 00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:38,820 S1: You know, you got the one two punch. You know, 134 00:07:38,860 --> 00:07:41,740 S1: your dad's pretty wise, too. He's a pretty. 135 00:07:41,740 --> 00:07:41,980 S2: Smart. 136 00:07:41,980 --> 00:07:43,700 S1: Guy. Yeah, there's a. 137 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:44,140 S2: Difference. 138 00:07:44,940 --> 00:07:50,100 S1: There's a difference between people having knowledge and even having 139 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:54,340 S1: wisdom that they keep for themselves, and then wisdom that 140 00:07:54,340 --> 00:07:59,020 S1: they give to others that enriches others. Uh, your sister 141 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:02,660 S1: Lisa reached out on Facebook and answered the question and 142 00:08:02,660 --> 00:08:05,100 S1: I said, what? One word? And of course, Lisa had 143 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:08,700 S1: to have four. And here's what she said. See if 144 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:12,740 S1: you agree. Loved others and hilarious. 145 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:19,180 S2: Absolutely. The her laugh. Uh, the other word that I 146 00:08:19,180 --> 00:08:23,020 S2: was wrestling with here was wise and joyful. Um, as 147 00:08:23,020 --> 00:08:27,260 S2: far as just picking one because she was her, uh, 148 00:08:27,740 --> 00:08:30,860 S2: sometimes you get the people who are wise and they're 149 00:08:30,860 --> 00:08:34,380 S2: really serious and, you know, they're just kind of like, well, 150 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:37,180 S2: sit down and I will tell you what I know now. But, um, 151 00:08:37,220 --> 00:08:40,380 S2: that wasn't mom. She was lifestyle living. And so in 152 00:08:40,380 --> 00:08:42,820 S2: the midst of everything, she could be just kind of 153 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:45,180 S2: in this serious mode and then all of a sudden 154 00:08:45,179 --> 00:08:48,220 S2: bring that joy of the Lord into the situation. And 155 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:52,660 S2: her laugh. I. My dad said he would always say. 156 00:08:52,660 --> 00:08:55,420 S2: When my mom and my sister got into a room 157 00:08:55,420 --> 00:08:58,100 S2: and were laughing together, it measured on the Richter scale, 158 00:08:58,100 --> 00:09:02,660 S2: so I. And it was fairly true. Um, she brought 159 00:09:02,660 --> 00:09:04,700 S2: a lot of joy to people, just even in how 160 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:09,460 S2: she lived life. Um, I love this verse from Proverbs 31, 161 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:13,179 S2: Proverbs 3126. I wrote this one down. She speaks with 162 00:09:13,179 --> 00:09:16,460 S2: wisdom on her tongue. I think that's the what I 163 00:09:16,460 --> 00:09:18,540 S2: saw in my mom and heard from her was it 164 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:22,260 S2: wasn't a forced thing. Um, and the joy wasn't forced. 165 00:09:22,260 --> 00:09:26,820 S2: It was who she was and how she lived. Um, the, uh, 166 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:29,660 S2: when my mom was, uh, when I was growing up, 167 00:09:29,660 --> 00:09:33,620 S2: especially in high school, moms sometimes like to embarrass their children. 168 00:09:33,620 --> 00:09:35,220 S2: I don't know if you've ever noticed that. In fact, 169 00:09:35,220 --> 00:09:38,140 S2: mom had a shirt that I'm pretty sure she bought 170 00:09:38,140 --> 00:09:42,020 S2: for herself that said embarrassing my children. Just another service 171 00:09:42,020 --> 00:09:44,740 S2: I offer. And, uh, we, we experienced that on a 172 00:09:44,740 --> 00:09:48,510 S2: regular basis. I and she, So one of the things 173 00:09:48,510 --> 00:09:51,390 S2: she would do is right before I'm going into like 174 00:09:51,429 --> 00:09:55,870 S2: football practice, I into the locker room, she would wear 175 00:09:55,870 --> 00:09:59,829 S2: this bright red lipstick and she very fitting to her 176 00:09:59,830 --> 00:10:02,790 S2: personality and she would just plant one on the cheek. Uh, 177 00:10:02,830 --> 00:10:07,069 S2: she and I would just have this red lipstick. And 178 00:10:07,070 --> 00:10:09,910 S2: so I would go and I would go to rub 179 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:12,190 S2: it off and I'm like, I gotta get this off. 180 00:10:12,190 --> 00:10:17,150 S2: And she just, she said to me, Brad, you don't 181 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:21,309 S2: rub off your mama's kisses. You rub em in. Oh, 182 00:10:21,470 --> 00:10:26,069 S2: and that is how I view the wisdom of my mom. Yeah, 183 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:31,910 S2: that is how I see and remember her. Because my 184 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:35,350 S2: whole life I have learned and tried to now apply 185 00:10:35,550 --> 00:10:38,510 S2: not just with those kisses because I started rubbing them in. 186 00:10:38,510 --> 00:10:41,830 S2: It's the wisdom. It's not a mode of saying, well, 187 00:10:41,830 --> 00:10:44,190 S2: I don't need that, or I know better or whatever else. 188 00:10:44,190 --> 00:10:46,670 S2: It's like, what can I learn from this? What can 189 00:10:46,670 --> 00:10:50,270 S2: I learn from my mom? And it's rubbing that wisdom 190 00:10:50,270 --> 00:10:53,350 S2: lipstick in. And I and I'm so grateful that I 191 00:10:53,390 --> 00:10:55,350 S2: learned that before it was too late because I think 192 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:59,469 S2: some people that's leads to regrets where because you you 193 00:10:59,510 --> 00:11:02,470 S2: addressed it. Chris. There are people who don't have the 194 00:11:02,470 --> 00:11:06,510 S2: experience that I did, and I get that. And that's hard. Yeah. 195 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:11,430 S2: And but those same people could be that mom for 196 00:11:11,429 --> 00:11:14,190 S2: someone else, whether it's with their own children or people 197 00:11:14,190 --> 00:11:17,590 S2: that are out there that they have influence with that 198 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:21,590 S2: maybe view them as their mom or another mom or 199 00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:25,550 S2: whatever in their lives. For me, it was that I 200 00:11:25,550 --> 00:11:27,870 S2: didn't want to get that too late, and I'm glad 201 00:11:27,870 --> 00:11:31,910 S2: I didn't. So it's not too late, wherever you're at, uh, 202 00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:34,710 S2: to be able to say, well, whatever I experienced, I'm 203 00:11:34,710 --> 00:11:37,670 S2: either going to replicate it because it was good, or 204 00:11:38,190 --> 00:11:40,390 S2: I'm going to take a look at this and change 205 00:11:40,390 --> 00:11:42,710 S2: how things were done, because I know it needs to 206 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:43,910 S2: be done differently. 207 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:47,830 S1: And what you wouldn't give for one of those kisses today. 208 00:11:47,870 --> 00:11:48,710 S2: Oh my goodness. 209 00:11:48,750 --> 00:11:50,910 S1: You know, to have that. Okay, so here's what we're 210 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:53,390 S1: going to do. Go call time out. And then we're 211 00:11:53,390 --> 00:11:59,469 S1: just going to line you up on the phone at (877) 548-3675. 212 00:11:59,630 --> 00:12:01,630 S1: If you're on the line right now, you hang on. 213 00:12:01,630 --> 00:12:05,150 S1: I'm getting to you choose one word to describe your mother. 214 00:12:05,470 --> 00:12:07,870 S1: What's the word that comes to mind when you think 215 00:12:07,870 --> 00:12:14,390 S1: about your mom and tell me why you chose that? (877) 548-3675. 216 00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:27,990 S1: Find out more about Brad Hutchcraft and Chris fabriclive.com. Choose 217 00:12:27,990 --> 00:12:32,470 S1: one word to describe your mother. Angela said strong. She 218 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:35,870 S1: was an alcoholic but was sober for more than 38 219 00:12:35,870 --> 00:12:40,230 S1: years when she passed away in April of 2025. During 220 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:42,790 S1: that time, she helped so many people do the same. 221 00:12:43,190 --> 00:12:45,760 S1: I'm proud of the legacy she left. I know she's 222 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,200 S1: with Jesus. Marcia's one word is gifted. My mother was 223 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,600 S1: a trained vocalist who ended up not on a stage 224 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,559 S1: as her parents hoped, but in Greene County, Illinois, soloing 225 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,080 S1: and leading music at church and in the community, singing 226 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,880 S1: at weddings and funerals and directing an area choir. And 227 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:10,320 S1: she was a gifted, creative professional educator teaching elementary grades 228 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:16,959 S1: for 38 years. So those are Angela and Marcia's one words. Uh, 229 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:23,800 S1: how about you? Eight. 775483675. Brad Hutchcraft is here from 230 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,000 S1: the Go Mad podcast. Make sure you subscribe. On Eagle's Wings. 231 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,040 S1: We'll talk a little bit about that as we continue 232 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,640 S1: because that was one of the things on his mom's heart. 233 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,679 S1: But Alex is hanging on in Florida. Alex, give me 234 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,439 S1: your word. 235 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,079 S3: Hi. Hi, Chris. Uh, the word that comes to mind 236 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,280 S3: would have to be amazing. 237 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:42,599 S1: Why? 238 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,520 S3: Eight kids. I'm right smack in the middle. I mean, 239 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,199 S3: she didn't have a car. Even though my dad worked, 240 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,600 S3: my mom was always home tending, doing what she could 241 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,320 S3: for us. I remember when I had asthma, she was 242 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,920 S3: always taking me to the hospital every week. And when 243 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,199 S3: I joined the army and I came back from break, 244 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,760 S3: she made this fantastic dinner and I said, mom, you 245 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,640 S3: didn't have to. I'm just a regular guy. I'm a 246 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,440 S3: regular kid in the family. But she really stood out. 247 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,040 S3: Always had us on the bus going to church on Sundays. 248 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,600 S3: And I'm so grateful. And right before she passed, a 249 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,360 S3: little over ten years ago, I was with my sister 250 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,440 S3: and my mom had dementia. She was 83 and I said, mom, 251 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,720 S3: you don't have to fight anymore. You can rest now. 252 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,920 S3: God's got you. And with that, she was gone. 253 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:31,119 S1: Wow. Amazing. That's a really good word. And also, she 254 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,280 S1: she saw you. You know, even though a lot of kids, 255 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,480 S1: you felt special to her and Brad, you probably identify 256 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,480 S1: with that, don't you? 257 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,800 S2: Yeah. I, um, it's, it's interesting because as he shared there, I, 258 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,360 S2: one of the words that I had written down because 259 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,440 S2: this came to mind when he was sharing was she 260 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,360 S2: was present. She, I don't remember her not being there. 261 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,680 S2: And I know that she sometimes traveled with dad, but 262 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,120 S2: dad did a lot of travel traveling growing up, um, 263 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,320 S2: when I was younger and it never felt that way. 264 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,920 S2: It never felt like dad was gone. Um, because my 265 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,600 S2: mom did such an amazing job, uh, with kind of 266 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,760 S2: being in that dual role during those times and taking 267 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,640 S2: care of the things she needed to take care of. 268 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,320 S2: And I didn't realize how much she was balancing then 269 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,800 S2: because she had this whole ministry side, but she never 270 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,080 S2: put that, at least that I felt, uh, or saw 271 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,240 S2: above her family and making sure we were loved and 272 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,240 S2: cared for. And so, um, dad would be incredible when 273 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,240 S2: he would come home too. So he would give us 274 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,040 S2: a lot of quality time, quality moments with him. So 275 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,360 S2: we didn't feel like he was gone. But when he 276 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,320 S2: was traveling, mom filled that gap amazingly. She was incredibly loving. 277 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,560 S2: And I would also say she was grace filled because 278 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,840 S2: we were a handful. So that was yeah. I want 279 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,400 S2: to be clear that for those who are listening who 280 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,800 S2: are like, well, they probably had three wonderful children, maybe eventually, 281 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,320 S2: I don't know, but I'm not sure where, where they 282 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,760 S2: put that dividing line. But we, you know, we had 283 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,920 S2: the same sin struggles growing up that I others do. 284 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,000 S2: And I and my mom and dad both, I were 285 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,200 S2: just so grace filled and wanted us to not live 286 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,640 S2: up to their name or some made up standard. They 287 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,400 S2: wanted us to live up to the name of Jesus 288 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,080 S2: because they knew what he had done for us. Uh, 289 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,040 S2: I mentioned the prayer journal, Chris. And, uh, this I 290 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,440 S2: don't know what I was doing at this point in time. 291 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,690 S2: I just want to be clear, if anyone wants to 292 00:16:39,690 --> 00:16:41,530 S2: write in and say, well, what was she praying for? 293 00:16:41,530 --> 00:16:44,770 S2: I don't know, and it's probably better that way. Um, 294 00:16:44,850 --> 00:16:47,010 S2: she just wrote in one of her journals back in 295 00:16:47,010 --> 00:16:51,609 S2: the early 90s, I pray for dear Brad, especially tonight. 296 00:16:51,970 --> 00:16:56,050 S2: Bless him. Please, dear Lord Jesus, keep him pure and 297 00:16:56,050 --> 00:17:00,130 S2: clean and continue to make him the godly man you 298 00:17:00,130 --> 00:17:03,290 S2: want him to be. May he be a stalwart leader 299 00:17:03,290 --> 00:17:05,970 S2: for you, heavenly father. And I can tell you I 300 00:17:05,970 --> 00:17:09,290 S2: was not a stalwart leader at that point. I. And 301 00:17:09,730 --> 00:17:14,890 S2: she saw things. She believed things I about her three 302 00:17:14,890 --> 00:17:19,770 S2: children and then later about her grandchildren and then Native 303 00:17:19,770 --> 00:17:23,090 S2: American young people who called her Mama Hutch. And she 304 00:17:23,090 --> 00:17:25,810 S2: lived it out, starting at home and going out from there. 305 00:17:25,810 --> 00:17:28,730 S2: She wasn't a different person in the different places, but 306 00:17:28,730 --> 00:17:31,929 S2: she was always there for us, and she knew how 307 00:17:31,930 --> 00:17:34,530 S2: to pray for us, even if we didn't know she 308 00:17:34,530 --> 00:17:37,689 S2: was praying these things. This. We knew she was praying 309 00:17:37,690 --> 00:17:38,290 S2: for us. 310 00:17:38,330 --> 00:17:41,330 S1: What a legacy. What? That you can hold that in 311 00:17:41,330 --> 00:17:43,930 S1: your hands and read it. Alex, thank you for your call. 312 00:17:44,090 --> 00:17:47,570 S1: Here's Karen in Illinois. Karen, what's your one word about 313 00:17:47,570 --> 00:17:48,250 S1: your mom? 314 00:17:50,410 --> 00:17:53,770 S4: It's difficult to choose one word when you speak of 315 00:17:53,770 --> 00:17:59,130 S4: your godly mother. But I have chosen faithful. She was 316 00:17:59,130 --> 00:18:03,290 S4: faithful to her life. She was faithful to her husband. 317 00:18:04,090 --> 00:18:08,090 S4: She was faithful to her eight children. But she was 318 00:18:08,090 --> 00:18:11,889 S4: especially faithful to me. You could say I was the 319 00:18:11,890 --> 00:18:15,810 S4: black sheep of the family. I was very difficult, especially 320 00:18:15,810 --> 00:18:19,810 S4: in my teen years. But she never gave up on me. 321 00:18:20,650 --> 00:18:24,729 S4: She was faithful to me through it all. She was 322 00:18:24,730 --> 00:18:25,689 S4: with the Lord now. 323 00:18:27,170 --> 00:18:28,010 S1: So you. 324 00:18:28,650 --> 00:18:30,209 S4: You, you. 325 00:18:30,730 --> 00:18:33,209 S1: When you were a teenager. Then you did some things 326 00:18:33,210 --> 00:18:36,609 S1: that hurt your mom's heart, right? So how do you 327 00:18:36,930 --> 00:18:39,090 S1: how do you deal with that now? And as you 328 00:18:39,090 --> 00:18:40,129 S1: look back on it. 329 00:18:42,290 --> 00:18:48,210 S4: Sometimes it is I regret the pain that I've caused her. 330 00:18:49,210 --> 00:18:51,810 S4: And I have to ask Jesus to help me get 331 00:18:51,810 --> 00:18:58,050 S4: through that, because Jesus forgives and I need to forgive myself, too. 332 00:18:58,450 --> 00:18:59,050 S1: Yes. 333 00:18:59,490 --> 00:19:03,370 S4: And you would. I know my mom did. 334 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:07,450 S1: Yeah. I love it. I can hear it in your heart. 335 00:19:07,450 --> 00:19:10,610 S1: I can hear the the love of your mother. That 336 00:19:10,609 --> 00:19:14,010 S1: kind of just kind of poured over you so that 337 00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:18,490 S1: you don't live in that constant thinking of all the 338 00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:20,609 S1: bad things I did because that the enemy loves to 339 00:19:20,609 --> 00:19:22,410 S1: do that, doesn't he, Brad? He loves to bring up 340 00:19:22,410 --> 00:19:24,770 S1: all these bad things that you did out there. Back there? 341 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:25,330 S4: Yes. 342 00:19:25,770 --> 00:19:29,050 S1: But the love, the love of God, the love of 343 00:19:29,050 --> 00:19:32,770 S1: your mom, if that washes over you, you can live 344 00:19:32,770 --> 00:19:34,970 S1: in that in light of that, right, Brad? 345 00:19:36,010 --> 00:19:38,770 S2: Yeah. I think back to a time when I was 346 00:19:38,770 --> 00:19:41,090 S2: in high school and going through a really rough stretch 347 00:19:41,090 --> 00:19:43,770 S2: and just was not being honest about some things with 348 00:19:43,770 --> 00:19:47,410 S2: my parents and I, it wasn't even like big sin things. 349 00:19:47,410 --> 00:19:50,129 S2: It was just things that I was trying to keep private. 350 00:19:50,130 --> 00:19:53,129 S2: And so I wasn't being truthful with them about some things. 351 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:56,770 S2: And it came to a moment where, um, just I, 352 00:19:57,530 --> 00:20:00,090 S2: one of the most painful moments in my life is 353 00:20:00,090 --> 00:20:04,490 S2: seeing when all of that came to light and seeing 354 00:20:04,530 --> 00:20:09,850 S2: the heartbreak in my parents and the broken trust that 355 00:20:09,850 --> 00:20:13,650 S2: I didn't know how valuable it was at the time. 356 00:20:13,650 --> 00:20:17,169 S2: And it could have gone one of two ways. It 357 00:20:17,170 --> 00:20:20,850 S2: could have just driven a wedge between me and my parents, 358 00:20:20,850 --> 00:20:24,450 S2: and it could have been something that lingered and lasted. 359 00:20:24,450 --> 00:20:27,730 S2: But because of how my parents responded, yes, with discipline, 360 00:20:27,730 --> 00:20:31,450 S2: which that's pretty key. And sometimes it's missing, uh, in 361 00:20:31,490 --> 00:20:38,260 S2: today's world. But they responded with good discipline but loving discipline. 362 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:41,980 S2: And they made me know from the very beginning of 363 00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:44,980 S2: all of that, when the truth came out. And we're 364 00:20:44,980 --> 00:20:48,979 S2: working through this that don't let this define you. Don't 365 00:20:48,980 --> 00:20:52,900 S2: let the enemy cause us to define you because that 366 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:55,780 S2: is not who you are. It's what we teach. I 367 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:58,979 S2: to native young people and young people around the country 368 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:02,619 S2: and across North America that you are created. You are 369 00:21:02,660 --> 00:21:07,020 S2: God's masterpiece. You are created in Christ Jesus for good 370 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:09,379 S2: works that he prepared in advance for you to do. 371 00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:12,660 S2: And my mom and dad would live that out with us. 372 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:17,460 S2: I think of Psalm 1273 children are a gift from 373 00:21:17,460 --> 00:21:20,740 S2: the Lord. They are a reward from him. My parents 374 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:25,780 S2: never even in our awful seasons, they never made us 375 00:21:25,780 --> 00:21:28,740 S2: feel like we were a burden. They never made us 376 00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:33,140 S2: feel like we were some big disappointment. They just wanted 377 00:21:33,140 --> 00:21:35,939 S2: to help us get back on track. And so instead 378 00:21:35,940 --> 00:21:39,620 S2: of letting the enemy point fingers at us, they said, no, 379 00:21:39,619 --> 00:21:41,540 S2: we are still here for you. And they made an 380 00:21:41,540 --> 00:21:44,220 S2: avenue for me to rebuild trust with them, to be 381 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:47,020 S2: restored in a relationship with them, but most importantly, to 382 00:21:47,020 --> 00:21:50,740 S2: be restored in a relationship with Jesus. And that was 383 00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:54,140 S2: a turning point in my life. So I'm so grateful 384 00:21:54,140 --> 00:21:57,580 S2: that even when the devil, the accuser comes at us, 385 00:21:58,020 --> 00:22:00,820 S2: that we can have these voices that are saying, that's 386 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:03,179 S2: not who you are. And that all starts with who 387 00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:05,619 S2: our father, our Heavenly father says we are. 388 00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:08,460 S1: We talked with Danny Gresham earlier in the week, and 389 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:12,300 S1: she was saying that very thing from a teenage girl's 390 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:16,500 S1: perspective of the the hold that secrets have on a 391 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:20,020 S1: young girl's heart, a young guys heart and an older 392 00:22:20,020 --> 00:22:23,260 S1: man's or woman's heart as well. When you let that 393 00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:25,900 S1: come out into the light, yeah, it gets hard. It's 394 00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:29,100 S1: a struggle. And yet at the same time, that's where 395 00:22:29,260 --> 00:22:34,220 S1: the healing begins when the forgiveness can come. When it's 396 00:22:34,340 --> 00:22:36,300 S1: out there in the light. So I think somebody needed 397 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:38,460 S1: to hear that. Karen, I'm so glad you called. Interesting 398 00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:41,859 S1: that both Karen and Alex grew up in families where 399 00:22:41,859 --> 00:22:45,820 S1: there were eight kids. I like that Doug is in Illinois. Doug, 400 00:22:45,820 --> 00:22:46,940 S1: what do you say today? 401 00:22:48,340 --> 00:22:52,340 S5: Um, well, um, the, the one word that I can 402 00:22:52,340 --> 00:22:54,940 S5: describe my mom as is is warrior. 403 00:22:58,980 --> 00:23:01,220 S1: Tell me why the reason? 404 00:23:01,260 --> 00:23:03,260 S5: Uh, well, she was blind the last ten years of 405 00:23:03,260 --> 00:23:07,020 S5: her life. She lived to the ripe, ripe old age 406 00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:12,660 S5: of 90 and three months and three days. Um, but 407 00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:17,899 S5: she's with the Lord now. Um, she she would laugh 408 00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:20,220 S5: from the gut, you know, even though she was blind, 409 00:23:20,260 --> 00:23:22,699 S5: she would say, I wish I could see. And I 410 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:24,940 S5: told her, well, I'll, you know, I'll be here for 411 00:23:24,940 --> 00:23:27,340 S5: you like you were for me all those years. And 412 00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:29,540 S5: I will stay with you, you know, as long as 413 00:23:29,540 --> 00:23:36,260 S5: you need me. Um, but, uh, just talented. Um, she 414 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:40,460 S5: cared for people. Um, you know, she would do things 415 00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:46,420 S5: for people and and not expect anything in return. Mhm. Uh, 416 00:23:46,420 --> 00:23:50,340 S5: she just very missed. It's been four years since she left, so. 417 00:23:50,780 --> 00:23:55,700 S1: Four years. See, it's the same with you. Uh, the 418 00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:59,580 S1: warrior mom that you had for years. The emotion is 419 00:23:59,580 --> 00:24:02,940 S1: still there with Doug. Ten years. The emotion is still 420 00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:06,860 S1: there because of the impact that was made from a 421 00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:10,940 S1: life well lived. Doug. Yeah, but I when you say warrior, 422 00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:14,340 S1: is it like prayer warrior or something else? 423 00:24:14,740 --> 00:24:19,459 S5: She was a prayer warrior. She just handling. Can you 424 00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:24,700 S5: imagine going blind after living for 83 years? You know, 80, 425 00:24:24,740 --> 00:24:28,189 S5: 82 years. I just I can't even imagine how how 426 00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:32,710 S5: that would affect my, you know, the way I think. 427 00:24:32,990 --> 00:24:38,470 S5: But she handled it with grace and, you know, like 428 00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:42,070 S5: a warrior, like a soldier, just it was just amazing 429 00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:45,910 S5: how she would just laugh from the gut at, at 430 00:24:45,910 --> 00:24:50,710 S5: people's jokes and, and, you know, taking life. She never 431 00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:55,510 S5: took it, never took it that seriously because she had 432 00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:59,070 S5: faith in God. And, um, you know, I would get 433 00:24:59,070 --> 00:25:03,510 S5: scared when tornadoes would come through and, and I'd tell 434 00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:06,990 S5: her we need to go to the basement. And her 435 00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:13,510 S5: response would be. Don't be scared. Quit being scared. God's 436 00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:14,710 S5: got this. So. 437 00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:18,390 S1: Doug, I'm so glad you got to talk about your 438 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:22,270 S1: mom here today. And, uh, Mike said comforter. That's my 439 00:25:22,270 --> 00:25:25,550 S1: one word. My mom was always a comforter to me 440 00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:30,750 S1: on Facebook. Luan said. Steadfast. She weathered many challenging storms 441 00:25:30,750 --> 00:25:34,310 S1: in life death of her husband to suicide, a son's 442 00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:38,669 S1: diagnosis with schizophrenia and having committed her life to Christ 443 00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:43,149 S1: when pregnant with me, she demonstrated by example total resilience 444 00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:47,909 S1: and total dependence upon God. Raise my siblings and me 445 00:25:47,910 --> 00:25:52,510 S1: to love God and His Word. That's Luhan's one word steadfast. 446 00:25:52,670 --> 00:26:06,350 S1: More straight ahead. The one word that you think of 447 00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:09,270 S1: about your mom. That's what we're talking about today. Brad 448 00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:12,149 S1: Hutchcraft is with us. When I think of the fellow 449 00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:14,830 S1: named John Gager, who's going to join us again next week, 450 00:26:14,830 --> 00:26:18,990 S1: I think of the word. Is it two words, self talk. 451 00:26:19,030 --> 00:26:22,190 S1: There's a dash in there. It says probably two, but self-talk. 452 00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:25,870 S1: He has written a book called Powerful Self-Talk from the 453 00:26:25,869 --> 00:26:30,150 S1: Psalms 40 days to a Biblical mindset. And this we 454 00:26:30,150 --> 00:26:32,990 S1: had him on, I think it was in January, and 455 00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:36,190 S1: it was it was such a good concept that I 456 00:26:36,190 --> 00:26:39,750 S1: really wanted to give this to anybody who supports the program. 457 00:26:40,030 --> 00:26:42,310 S1: And even if you can't support the program, go to 458 00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:44,709 S1: the website or call the number. I'd love to put 459 00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:47,510 S1: this in your hands, but if you can reach out 460 00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:50,830 S1: with a gift of any amount during this month, today 461 00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:52,390 S1: would be a great day to do it. I want 462 00:26:52,430 --> 00:26:56,389 S1: to send you powerful self-talk from the Psalms by John 463 00:26:56,390 --> 00:27:00,510 S1: Gager Jerry Jenkins does the the foreword for John. And 464 00:27:00,510 --> 00:27:04,390 S1: this is more than 250 pages of just going into 465 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:09,110 S1: the Psalms and seeing what can we learn about ourselves 466 00:27:09,109 --> 00:27:13,590 S1: that will tell ourselves the truth rather than those negative things? 467 00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:16,190 S1: We often say, oh, you dummy, why did you say that? 468 00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:18,910 S1: Why did you do this? Let me send you a copy. 469 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:22,430 S1: Go to Chris Fabry live.org. Scroll down. You'll see how 470 00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:26,080 S1: to give a gift right there. Chris Fabry live.org. Or 471 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:33,199 S1: you can call (866) 953-2279. Would love to put this in 472 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:40,240 S1: your hands. 866995 Fabry. Kathleen is up next in Indiana. Hi, Kathleen. 473 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,000 S1: Go right ahead. What's your one word? 474 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,439 S6: Unconditional love. 475 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,280 S1: HMM. 476 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,119 S7: That's two. But we're going to give. 477 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,240 S1: You those two. Okay. 478 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:55,200 S6: Okay, so my mama raised five babies less than six 479 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,720 S6: years apart by herself. I was seven years old. I'm 480 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,400 S6: the second oldest, and she was like, 25 years old. 481 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,960 S6: She made sure we got to Christian schools. She worked 482 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,480 S6: seven jobs sometimes make sure she was beautiful. By the way, 483 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,400 S6: she could have been seduced by any man out there. Uh, 484 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,080 S6: she did not sacrifice her happiness and self. It was 485 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,399 S6: all about us. And she taught us. She taught us 486 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,040 S6: God's love through her. And she gave us the one 487 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:35,960 S6: thing that money cannot buy. And that's unconditional love. And 488 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,440 S6: we were a handful. Three boys, two girls. The boys 489 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,400 S6: were like, you know, rough and tumble babysitters would leave. Um, 490 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,320 S6: and she just made sure she even got. I mean, 491 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:58,360 S6: she made sure that we were loved unconditionally. Wow. When 492 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,520 S6: she didn't have any. 493 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,080 S1: What a legacy. The other word that I think of, though, 494 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,760 S1: with that Kathleen is, is sacrificial. That she. 495 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,600 S6: Gave that to somebody else. 496 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,320 S1: Sacrificed her herself for you and to bring you and 497 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,960 S1: your siblings up. Brad, what do you think about that? 498 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,640 S2: It's I, I love hearing people's hearts for their moms 499 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,000 S2: because you look back and you can you mentioned before, Chris, 500 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,000 S2: you can hear it in their voices. Uh, and that's, um, 501 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,320 S2: my family knows that I'm, I, I, I, I'm prone to, uh, 502 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,480 S2: wearing my emotions, uh, especially when it comes to, uh, 503 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,320 S2: just when something gets me going and the tears start coming, the, uh, 504 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,560 S2: the red eyes, as they'll say, but, um, but that's 505 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,360 S2: a good thing because we remember, um, the fact that these, 506 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,880 S2: the impact that moms had in our lives and the, 507 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,120 S2: and I think sacrificial is such a key word. Um, we, um, 508 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,600 S2: I think of all those times where we would go 509 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,120 S2: out to eat as a family and, you know, we 510 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,480 S2: were the family that, you know, you're sharing things and, uh, 511 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,640 S2: my parents full time ministry their whole lives and, uh, 512 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,080 S2: really trusting the Lord as I was, as we say, uh, 513 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,360 S2: we're a daily bread ministry, a very daily bread, uh, 514 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,400 S2: ministry sometimes, and they we would go out to eat 515 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,640 S2: and there were times that we would be eating and 516 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:30,360 S2: mom would grab the saltine crackers and that would come 517 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,239 S2: with a salad or whatever. And she would just make 518 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,160 S2: a little kind of saltine sandwich for herself so we 519 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,240 S2: could eat. And we were just like, mom, no, you 520 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,000 S2: should have some of this. And, and she, she was 521 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,120 S2: just like, you guys eat. And that was indicative of 522 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,360 S2: how she lived her life, that she was all about 523 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,480 S2: making sure that her family was cared for first. And 524 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,360 S2: she lived that out time and time again for us. 525 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,960 S2: And she had such a trusting heart for God's provision 526 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,800 S2: as well. Um, her life verse that she would go 527 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,080 S2: back to over and over. Proverbs three, Proverbs three five 528 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680 S2: and six, trust in the Lord with all your heart, 529 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,720 S2: and do not lean on your own understanding. That's where 530 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,920 S2: she got her wisdom from, not leaning on her own understanding. 531 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560 S2: In all your ways acknowledge him and he will make 532 00:31:17,650 --> 00:31:22,090 S2: straight your paths. She lived out trusting the Lord in 533 00:31:22,090 --> 00:31:23,970 S2: how she lived and how she loved. 534 00:31:24,490 --> 00:31:27,050 S1: The other thing that she did, and Ron, as your 535 00:31:27,050 --> 00:31:31,370 S1: dad Ron has talked about this, is she was available 536 00:31:31,770 --> 00:31:36,410 S1: to people who needed to talk with her, especially to 537 00:31:36,450 --> 00:31:40,210 S1: native young people who would call her at all hours 538 00:31:40,210 --> 00:31:42,610 S1: of the night, you know, and say, I need I'm 539 00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:45,210 S1: struggling with this. And I got to talk about this. 540 00:31:45,530 --> 00:31:48,170 S1: And she was right there for them. And I know 541 00:31:48,170 --> 00:31:50,690 S1: that there's this will be on her heart. There's something 542 00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:53,650 S1: special that's happening tomorrow in your neck of the woods. 543 00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:54,610 S1: Tell us about that. 544 00:31:55,050 --> 00:31:58,890 S2: There is, um, my mom was I helped start the 545 00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:03,770 S2: ministry with my dad on Eagle's Wings back in 1992. And, um, 546 00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:06,010 S2: it was just born out of seeing that there was 547 00:32:06,010 --> 00:32:09,490 S2: something more needed in helping bring hope to Native America. 548 00:32:09,490 --> 00:32:12,930 S2: And the answer was native young people bringing that message 549 00:32:12,930 --> 00:32:15,570 S2: of the hope of Jesus to their own people. And 550 00:32:15,730 --> 00:32:19,050 S2: so we. For 30 plus years now, we have been 551 00:32:19,050 --> 00:32:22,810 S2: equipping native young people to be messengers of hope. And 552 00:32:22,810 --> 00:32:25,050 S2: for so many years we said, well, if we only 553 00:32:25,050 --> 00:32:29,010 S2: had a place that we could teach them more about Jesus, 554 00:32:29,050 --> 00:32:32,050 S2: have them around longer. And so we are about to 555 00:32:32,290 --> 00:32:36,610 S2: graduate our fourth class from the On Eagles Wings Leadership 556 00:32:36,610 --> 00:32:40,930 S2: Center tomorrow. Ten incredible Native American young people from across 557 00:32:40,930 --> 00:32:44,570 S2: North America that have come together for nine months of 558 00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:48,090 S2: this gap year program, where they are learning some basic 559 00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:50,930 S2: theology things, but also just who you are in Christ 560 00:32:50,930 --> 00:32:54,850 S2: and how that impacts every area of your life. And it's, 561 00:32:55,010 --> 00:32:58,010 S2: it's one of those things where sometimes you wonder, well, Lord, 562 00:32:58,170 --> 00:33:01,370 S2: why didn't mom get to see this? Why didn't she 563 00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:05,850 S2: get to see this come to fruition? But her fingerprints 564 00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:09,170 S2: are all over the place, including we do have, um, 565 00:33:09,330 --> 00:33:12,050 S2: a nine one of the rooms there, uh, just for 566 00:33:12,050 --> 00:33:14,490 S2: the students to kind of hang out is a 1950s 567 00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:19,290 S2: themed cafe that is a black and white floor and 568 00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:22,450 S2: the red fridge, and it's got a jukebox working jukebox 569 00:33:22,450 --> 00:33:25,450 S2: in there and everything. And it's called Suzy Q's Cafe, 570 00:33:25,490 --> 00:33:28,050 S2: which was a nickname of my mom's growing up. It 571 00:33:28,050 --> 00:33:31,130 S2: has the Proverbs three, five, and six in there. Um, 572 00:33:31,170 --> 00:33:34,650 S2: it has a couple pictures of her. And we, we 573 00:33:34,690 --> 00:33:35,969 S2: were like, well, what do we put up there? And 574 00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:39,530 S2: it just says it's a place for Jesus joy and Java. So, uh, 575 00:33:39,570 --> 00:33:42,290 S2: we can get some coffee there, but, um, just sit 576 00:33:42,290 --> 00:33:45,170 S2: and have great conversations. And I know that's one of 577 00:33:45,170 --> 00:33:47,730 S2: the places my mom would have just hung out and 578 00:33:47,770 --> 00:33:50,930 S2: that people would have flocked to her there because she 579 00:33:50,930 --> 00:33:54,290 S2: was that kind of personality. So as we it's one 580 00:33:54,290 --> 00:33:58,570 S2: of those emotional milestone moments because we know that part 581 00:33:58,570 --> 00:34:03,690 S2: of her legacy continues on. Um, at, at the place 582 00:34:03,690 --> 00:34:06,250 S2: where my mom grew up, which is now actually where 583 00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:08,530 S2: my mom and dad moved to when they came from 584 00:34:08,530 --> 00:34:12,810 S2: new Jersey, uh, moved into the family farmhouse there. Uh, 585 00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:17,969 S2: there are these irises that my mom's grandma had planted 586 00:34:18,090 --> 00:34:21,970 S2: so many years ago now, and those are still blooming today. 587 00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:25,850 S2: They're still every year those come up and that'll bring. 588 00:34:25,850 --> 00:34:30,330 S2: He'll bring each of his, uh, daughters, daughters, and to Lisa, 589 00:34:30,330 --> 00:34:33,089 S2: to his daughters in law and to some now of 590 00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:34,850 S2: our native young people, some of our staff. He will 591 00:34:34,850 --> 00:34:37,690 S2: bring those into the office. And it is a reminder 592 00:34:37,690 --> 00:34:41,610 S2: that these the legacy goes on. They're still blooming after 593 00:34:41,610 --> 00:34:45,650 S2: all these years. Every graduating class we have, every time 594 00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:48,049 S2: we get to see some of the victories that we do, 595 00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:50,810 S2: even in our families that we know my mom prayed 596 00:34:50,810 --> 00:34:53,530 S2: for before she went to be with the Lord, that 597 00:34:53,530 --> 00:34:56,810 S2: we are seeing those irises bloom over and over again, 598 00:34:56,810 --> 00:35:01,210 S2: that mom's legacy continues to show up in our lives. Um, 599 00:35:01,250 --> 00:35:03,169 S2: and I would just say that if you're someone that 600 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:07,650 S2: has had a not great relationship, uh, with, uh, with 601 00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:12,540 S2: your mom, uh, one encouragement sometimes there's not much you 602 00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:14,819 S2: can do about it, and I get that. So for 603 00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:18,780 S2: those who you've tried everything and you're just still waiting 604 00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:22,739 S2: and praying, uh, that I understand that, but I know 605 00:35:22,739 --> 00:35:25,140 S2: that my brother Doug texted me so I can tell 606 00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:28,420 S2: this because I, um, he said it, but, um, he 607 00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:31,819 S2: was I, him and my mom did not always see 608 00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:33,500 S2: eye to eye on things. They both have kind of 609 00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:38,020 S2: this prophet side to them and this truth side and, uh, that, uh, 610 00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:42,100 S2: didn't always mix, but, um, he realized he, he just 611 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:44,660 S2: said to me, he said in his early 20s, he 612 00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:48,660 S2: realized that he had things to repent of. He had 613 00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:51,540 S2: things that he had to say I was wrong and, 614 00:35:51,620 --> 00:35:53,900 S2: and went before the Lord and just said, I know 615 00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:56,700 S2: that some of what is taking place is because of 616 00:35:56,739 --> 00:35:59,860 S2: what how I have been living in my attitude. Not 617 00:35:59,860 --> 00:36:01,859 S2: that he wasn't walking with the Lord, but it was 618 00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:05,219 S2: just this area that maybe he hadn't surrendered yet. And 619 00:36:05,219 --> 00:36:07,700 S2: when he did that, when he took time to repent 620 00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:12,340 S2: for the things he had done, it changed their relationship, 621 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:15,860 S2: it changed their relationship, and it was a whole different 622 00:36:15,860 --> 00:36:18,780 S2: ball game from there on out. So just an encouragement 623 00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:21,260 S2: to those that maybe there is something on your side 624 00:36:21,260 --> 00:36:26,220 S2: that I could do something about this. Don't wait again. 625 00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:29,500 S2: Don't wait while you, if your mom is still around 626 00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:33,420 S2: and there's time left with your mom, don't wait. You 627 00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:37,020 S2: won't regret trying to take those steps to make things right. 628 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:38,060 S8: That's a great word. 629 00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:41,180 S1: Thank you. Thank you, Doug, for for getting in touch 630 00:36:41,180 --> 00:36:44,020 S1: here today. And if your mom were here, I don't 631 00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:46,980 S1: hear her speaking, but I can hear her say, Chris. Chris. 632 00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:50,260 S1: So this warrior leadership thing is coming up this summer. 633 00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:52,460 S1: And if people don't know about On Eagle's Wings, that'd 634 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,380 S1: be a great thing to support. So we've got a 635 00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:58,420 S1: link at Chris Fabry live.org. And don't forget, my son's 636 00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:00,700 S1: on the Go Mad podcast and tell them what mad. 637 00:37:00,739 --> 00:37:02,740 S1: We're not telling them to go mad. It's mad. Mad 638 00:37:02,739 --> 00:37:05,180 S1: is make a difference. I remember Ron talking about that 639 00:37:05,180 --> 00:37:08,379 S1: 40 years ago. Go make a difference. That's what they're 640 00:37:08,380 --> 00:37:12,540 S1: talking about. That was my mad podcast. And so if 641 00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:15,899 S1: you want to subscribe to that podcast, you can. We've 642 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,859 S1: got a link right there at Chris Fabry live.org. If 643 00:37:18,860 --> 00:37:22,100 S1: you don't know about On Eagle's Wings, boy howdy, go 644 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:26,660 S1: to the same website. Chris Fabry live dot ORG. Your 645 00:37:26,660 --> 00:37:30,660 S1: one word about your mom more straight ahead on Moody Radio. 646 00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:44,940 S1: Anna s one word about her mom persevering no matter 647 00:37:44,980 --> 00:37:47,860 S1: what life throws at her. She dug in and kept going. 648 00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:50,620 S1: Her source of strength was her Savior and the Word 649 00:37:50,620 --> 00:37:53,700 S1: of God. She is a beautiful. She is a beautiful 650 00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:56,859 S1: example of. To her family still going strong, serving in 651 00:37:56,860 --> 00:38:00,020 S1: her church, leading women's Bible studies, being a retreat speaker, 652 00:38:00,140 --> 00:38:04,939 S1: practicing hospitality every Sunday. She'll be 87 tomorrow and she 653 00:38:04,940 --> 00:38:11,310 S1: is my hero. Happy birthday, Anna's mom, Glenna is in Florida. Glenna. 654 00:38:11,350 --> 00:38:13,110 S1: You're one word for your mom. 655 00:38:13,989 --> 00:38:14,950 S4: Principled. 656 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:18,950 S1: Principled. Now that one I haven't heard yet. Tell me why. 657 00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:22,790 S4: Mom was so principled. 658 00:38:22,989 --> 00:38:28,950 S9: That whatever the situation was, she would always respond. It's 659 00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:30,350 S9: the principle of the matter. 660 00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:35,510 S1: And that leaked down onto your life. Have you put 661 00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:37,790 S1: that in practice in your life in some way? 662 00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:42,549 S9: Oh, absolutely. Now, mom, even if mom went to the 663 00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:47,230 S9: supermarket and they gave her change and the change was 664 00:38:47,230 --> 00:38:51,109 S9: short by $0.02, she would have me jump in the 665 00:38:51,110 --> 00:38:55,270 S9: car and take her back because of the principle of 666 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:55,830 S9: the matter. 667 00:38:57,310 --> 00:38:59,550 S1: And what did that do in your heart as a kid. 668 00:39:01,110 --> 00:39:08,270 S9: That actually taught me values? It taught me how to 669 00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:12,790 S9: make sure to be honest, to always be on time. 670 00:39:15,110 --> 00:39:18,150 S1: Yeah, because you honor other people when you do that, 671 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:22,390 S1: not just with the returning the $0.02 or the Abraham 672 00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:27,110 S1: Lincoln story, the same thing. You honor other people because 673 00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:30,510 S1: their time is valuable too. It's not all about you. 674 00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:35,110 S1: It's not all about me. It's about others as well. 675 00:39:35,350 --> 00:39:38,750 S1: And I'm that that is interesting that you that would 676 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:41,630 S1: come up in your life and would would kind of 677 00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:45,790 S1: spill over because I think we live in a day. Brad, 678 00:39:45,790 --> 00:39:47,270 S1: I don't know if you agree with me or not, 679 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:49,590 S1: but I think we live in a day when that 680 00:39:49,590 --> 00:39:52,310 S1: kind of thing can very easily go by the wayside, 681 00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:53,150 S1: don't you think? 682 00:39:53,870 --> 00:39:57,350 S2: Oh my goodness, it is I it absolutely goes by 683 00:39:57,350 --> 00:40:01,390 S2: the wayside way too quickly. Um, my, uh, my mom 684 00:40:01,390 --> 00:40:03,910 S2: and my dad both lived out something for us. That 685 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:06,229 S2: is a word that I think has gone missing from 686 00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:09,109 S2: a lot of vocabularies. And that's integrity. And that's what 687 00:40:09,110 --> 00:40:11,750 S2: I hear when I principled that they had. They have 688 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:15,550 S2: integrity and things. And so, you know, the when I, I, 689 00:40:15,790 --> 00:40:18,270 S2: we would, my dad would be speaking someplace and we 690 00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:22,830 S2: were along with him. Uh, people would kind of lean in, um, to, uh, 691 00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:25,990 S2: to us as kids and get that little insider voice 692 00:40:25,989 --> 00:40:27,830 S2: and they would be like, so what are your mom 693 00:40:27,830 --> 00:40:31,830 S2: and dad really like? And it's like, well, first of all, 694 00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:35,550 S2: why are you asking that? Secondly, they are exactly like, 695 00:40:35,590 --> 00:40:38,630 S2: you see, they are the same people at home. What 696 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:41,310 S2: you see living, being lived out in public is what 697 00:40:41,310 --> 00:40:43,390 S2: they lived out in private with us. And so we 698 00:40:43,390 --> 00:40:46,870 S2: didn't have to pretend our parents were something that they weren't. 699 00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:49,750 S2: They had that integrity. The number one core value of 700 00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:52,950 S2: our ministry is high integrity, that we're going to seek 701 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:56,029 S2: to make the right choice, even if it's the hard choice. 702 00:40:56,270 --> 00:40:58,350 S2: And one of the reasons we can do that, and 703 00:40:58,350 --> 00:41:01,069 S2: we can model that for our whole staff here, is 704 00:41:01,070 --> 00:41:05,470 S2: because my mom and dad so faithfully have lived. Lived 705 00:41:05,469 --> 00:41:07,990 S2: that out. My dad still lives that out of saying 706 00:41:08,190 --> 00:41:11,350 S2: we're going to reflect Jesus, even in just the daily 707 00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:13,390 S2: decisions that we're going to make. 708 00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:14,870 S8: Bingo. Okay. 709 00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:17,669 S1: Glenna, thank you for your call today. Victoria says her 710 00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:23,190 S1: one word is devoted. Juanita says generous gave her time, money, 711 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:26,069 S1: and selflessly raised eight children. There's a lot of eight 712 00:41:26,070 --> 00:41:30,350 S1: kid families on the program today. And Tom and Patti. Mama. 713 00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:33,390 S1: My southern Ida Belle. She lost her mama when she 714 00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:36,350 S1: was 13 years old and lived a very difficult life. 715 00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:41,029 S1: Seven children born at home, a great cook, cornbread and 716 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:44,550 S1: iced tea and everything she made was delicious. A wonderful 717 00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:49,110 S1: mother loved her children like Jesus loves so. And then 718 00:41:49,150 --> 00:41:52,350 S1: Jill says, gentle. I rarely saw her get upset or 719 00:41:52,350 --> 00:41:55,549 S1: excited about any situation she loved. The Lord served him 720 00:41:55,550 --> 00:42:00,150 S1: and her family with joy. So that's the one word. 721 00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:02,839 S1: If you didn't get on the program today, turn to 722 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,680 S1: your neighbor and tell them the one, the word that 723 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,920 S1: is rolling around your soul about your mom. But here's 724 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,120 S1: the other thing. Brad Hutchcraft that I am thinking, if 725 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,399 S1: your mom were here, or if she could call in 726 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,759 S1: today and say, Chris, Chris, talk to Brad, get to 727 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,680 S1: the gospel, tell people about Jesus. So take the last 728 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,759 S1: couple of minutes and do what your mom, I think 729 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,800 S1: would ask you to do. 730 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,360 S2: She would. She absolutely would. One of the deepest, most 731 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,600 S2: personal memories I have with mom and I relived it. 732 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,560 S2: I went down memory lane just a few weeks ago. 733 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,200 S2: I was back in new Jersey, and I drove by 734 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,480 S2: the house that I grew up in. And, um, those 735 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,080 S2: front steps there, I was six years old and we 736 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,400 S2: came home from church and, um, I just had questions 737 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,680 S2: and I started talking to mom and, uh, she sat 738 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,720 S2: there with me. And in those moments, she told me 739 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,799 S2: more about who Jesus was and who he is and 740 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,520 S2: can be for me. And I gave my heart to 741 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,839 S2: the Lord there. So my mom was the one that 742 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,760 S2: led me to Jesus. And she did that repeatedly in life. 743 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,040 S2: She led me back to Jesus many times as well, 744 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,560 S2: just in how she lived and prayed. And I would 745 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,719 S2: just say that that is why I still miss her 746 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,799 S2: like crazy. Uh, every day coming to work, I drive by, uh, 747 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,759 S2: what is called, uh, we call the rapture launch pad, uh, 748 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,520 S2: for mom. Uh, that is I drive by there. And 749 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,759 S2: so I think of her often, and because of Jesus, 750 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,240 S2: there is hope on both sides of the grave here. 751 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,840 S2: There is hope for me both that I have this 752 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,239 S2: eternal life because of Jesus, but also that I get 753 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,000 S2: to see her again because of that. And there is 754 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,240 S2: hope for mom because she is having her best days 755 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,800 S2: ever every day, and she is getting to be with Jesus, 756 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:02,839 S2: who she loved so much. And I think what mom 757 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,359 S2: lived out for us was being able to show us 758 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,800 S2: that we were created to have this relationship with Jesus, 759 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,200 S2: and that when we don't have that, life doesn't really 760 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,160 S2: make a whole lot of sense, and that when we 761 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,960 S2: realize that we don't have that relationship because we've chosen 762 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,840 S2: to run our lives our way, when we've chosen to 763 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,919 S2: have this sin in our lives and say, I'm just 764 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,640 S2: going to do me, Lord, and you run the universe, 765 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,960 S2: I'll run me. And when we do that, we separate 766 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,880 S2: ourselves from God. We all have sinned and fall short 767 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,080 S2: of God's glory, as it says in Romans. And all 768 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,800 S2: of a sudden we we're left hurting and separated from God, 769 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,520 S2: but we're created to have this relationship. And Jesus made 770 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,480 S2: a way for us to do that. That's what my 771 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,520 S2: mom and dad lived out and explained to us, sitting 772 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,960 S2: there on those front steps of the house. That's what 773 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,000 S2: my mom was telling me, that Jesus died so I 774 00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,880 S2: can have this relationship with him. He paid my death penalty. 775 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,719 S2: So I don't have to live that life. So I 776 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,120 S2: don't have to die that death. He paid the penalty 777 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,480 S2: for me and I just had to choose. I just 778 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,440 S2: had to choose this relationship with Jesus. It doesn't mean 779 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,920 S2: life is always easy. It doesn't mean that everything always 780 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,640 S2: makes sense, but it means that there's hope. It means 781 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,920 S2: that there's peace. It means that there's life and it 782 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,799 S2: means there's eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. I 783 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,200 S2: am so grateful my mom did that. And if you're 784 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,200 S2: someone that's sitting there today saying, man, I just need 785 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,120 S2: some moments like that on the front steps. Yeah, we'll 786 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,919 S2: talk to someone, reach out to someone. The folks on 787 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,000 S2: this radio program would be happy to tell you more 788 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,000 S2: about Jesus. Reach out and talk to him because he 789 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,680 S2: is there listening wherever you're at, and he wants to 790 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,360 S2: have that same relationship with you. 791 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,560 S1: We've got on the website, Chris Fabry, live.org at the 792 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,370 S1: top and the bottom. How to Know Jesus or something 793 00:45:59,370 --> 00:46:01,890 S1: along those lines. So you can go right there if 794 00:46:01,930 --> 00:46:04,450 S1: you'd like to or and there's other places you can 795 00:46:04,450 --> 00:46:08,650 S1: go chat about Jesus online as well. But don't hear 796 00:46:08,650 --> 00:46:12,210 S1: Brad saying, uh, my mom was so great and she 797 00:46:12,210 --> 00:46:15,050 S1: earned her way into heaven. No, no, no, she would 798 00:46:15,050 --> 00:46:17,529 S1: not say that. No, there's nobody good enough to get 799 00:46:17,530 --> 00:46:22,290 S1: into heaven. But Jesus paved that way and he gave 800 00:46:22,290 --> 00:46:25,290 S1: his life for her. And he did the same for you. 801 00:46:25,570 --> 00:46:26,130 S1: And so to. 802 00:46:26,170 --> 00:46:27,049 S2: See her again. 803 00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:29,930 S1: You get to see her again. Brad, you've honored Karen 804 00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:32,010 S1: here today. Thank you for doing that, friend. 805 00:46:32,850 --> 00:46:35,290 S2: Amen. Thank you for letting me be here with you today, Chris, 806 00:46:35,290 --> 00:46:36,210 S2: I appreciate it. 807 00:46:37,010 --> 00:46:39,850 S1: And to all moms who are listening to those who 808 00:46:39,850 --> 00:46:43,089 S1: led someone on the front steps, happy Mother's Day. Come 809 00:46:43,090 --> 00:46:45,890 S1: on back on Monday for Chris Fabry Live, a production 810 00:46:45,890 --> 00:46:49,490 S1: of Moody Radio, a Ministry of Moody Bible Institute.