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S1: Yeah. Hang on. This is Forrest Frank. It's a good day.

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S1: godly lives in this present age. I think everybody out

443
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S1: there screams Yes, I want that. And we sell short

444
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S1: that potential, don't we, Jared? If we are just preaching

445
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S1: salvation to people and not discipleship through God's grace, explain

446
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S1: that from your vantage point.

447
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S10: Uh, I think it's interesting you started in in Titus,

448
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S10: if you continue on to verse 15, there's a really

449
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,199
S10: important point that's made there which says encourage the believers

450
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S10: to do them. So it's not just about teaching to

451
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,160
S10: do these things, but actually following through. And one of

452
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,840
S10: the the core elements that we focus on is faithfulness.

453
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:08,560
S10: And the reality is faithfulness is really defined by knowing,

454
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,880
S10: doing and training others to do the same. And in

455
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,760
S10: the West, in America, we often focus on discipleship as

456
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,360
S10: teaching or knowing things about God, and we fail to

457
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S10: put them in practice, and even more so fail to

458
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S10: train others to do the same. And what Titus 215

459
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S10: is saying there is teach these things and encourage the

460
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S10: believers to do them.

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S1: Yeah.

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S3: Wow. Doctor Jared Nelms, give us a little snapshot of

463
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S3: your own, of your own story. How did God capture

464
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S3: your heart? Obviously, we know that your dad is rich

465
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S3: in faith, pastored for many years. When did God really

466
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S3: grab Ahold of you?

467
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S10: Yeah, I was in the bush in southern Africa, a

468
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S10: country called Zambia. And we were I was with a

469
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S10: group of young adults, and we were out showing the

470
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S10: Jesus film to a tribe and a village that had

471
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,560
S10: never heard the name of Jesus. And I was a

472
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S10: bit far from the faith. I was a bit of

473
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,040
S10: a prodigal growing up in the church. I knew God

474
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S10: was real, but I hadn't really had a relationship with him.

475
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S10: And as the team was showing the Jesus film, God

476
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S10: spoke to me in that moment and in my faith

477
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S10: became more real than it had ever been. And since

478
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S10: that moment, I've wanted nothing more to do than to

479
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S10: be used by God.

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S1: Jared. That's a beautiful story, dude. Jared is, um, he's

481
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S1: a tall guy. When I first met him, I thought

482
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S1: it reminds me of my son. He's up there. He's

483
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S1: up there, man. Um, but a great heart. And that

484
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S1: heart has led to leadership of team. And we're going

485
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S1: to have a couple of days here in April, guys,

486
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S1: that we're going to jump in and watch God do

487
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S1: something amazing here. We're going to we're going to get

488
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S1: behind T. Isn't that going to be cool? Yes. But

489
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S1: coming up here um, after a couple of minutes here,

490
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S1: Jared I want to get after something that it's hard

491
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S1: to hear it, but I think we look at discipleship

492
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,050
S1: and we we want to lower the bar so that

493
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S1: we can get more and more people over it, meaning

494
00:25:20,090 --> 00:25:23,530
S1: less commitment and not so much time, you know, how

495
00:25:23,530 --> 00:25:26,969
S1: can we what's the minimum viable product we've got to

496
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S1: do to get people kind of down the path? And

497
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S1: then I go to Kenya and I'm meeting these guys

498
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S1: and gals and I'm going, uh oh, they're spending five,

499
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S1: six hours a week pouring through the word of God,

500
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S1: getting coached, mentored, discipled. So we're going to get some

501
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S1: facts and figures. We're going to get really honest about

502
00:25:47,609 --> 00:25:51,209
S1: this because, you know, training, which is what we find

503
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S1: in Titus two. Ali. It implies some kind of sweat

504
00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:57,770
S1: equity here. Right? A little bit a little bit. We'll

505
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S1: break it down Jared. Now special guest straight ahead.

506
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S7: A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is

507
00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:09,330
S7: in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

508
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S1: Yeah, what a week. I'm bummed that it's ending, actually.

509
00:26:12,290 --> 00:26:15,850
S1: Freedom Friday. Yeah. All right. We got to get to

510
00:26:15,890 --> 00:26:18,930
S1: a weekend, but we're gonna. We're gonna juice this for

511
00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:21,810
S1: all it's got. Jared nelms, doctor Jared Nelms, our guest

512
00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:25,490
S1: right now. He's the president and CEO of the Timothy Initiative.

513
00:26:25,530 --> 00:26:28,010
S1: More on the details of that and how we can

514
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S1: partner with them. That's coming up in April. But I

515
00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:34,450
S1: gotta tell you, Jared, I was so I'm still so

516
00:26:34,490 --> 00:26:37,490
S1: inspired by not only your work, but the work of

517
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S1: God's grace and mercy and the movement of the spirit

518
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S1: in different regions of the world where you're working, especially

519
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S1: where I was at in the northern kind of shores

520
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S1: of Kenya, man. Amazing. But here's the thing that stuck

521
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S1: with me, and that is we were, I think, out

522
00:26:55,970 --> 00:27:01,530
S1: of a good intention. We've many pastors, leaders, parents, you

523
00:27:01,570 --> 00:27:04,930
S1: name it. The kind of the ecosystem of discipleship in

524
00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:09,250
S1: America is we try to get everybody into the hoop

525
00:27:09,290 --> 00:27:11,730
S1: and wharf of discipleship. So we have a class or

526
00:27:11,730 --> 00:27:14,650
S1: we have a, we have a a preaching series and

527
00:27:14,650 --> 00:27:16,410
S1: then we're we're kind of done. All right now we're

528
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S1: all disciples. Discipleship, brother. It's work isn't it? And speak

529
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S1: to that for a second.

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S10: Yeah, I think there's what you're honing in on is

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S10: there's a, a constant pull to shape Christianity after our

532
00:27:33,210 --> 00:27:39,850
S10: own desires instead of God's. And somehow, unintentionally, I think

533
00:27:39,890 --> 00:27:45,530
S10: we have taken Jesus's command of take up your cross

534
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S10: and follow me. And we've somehow turned that into give

535
00:27:50,090 --> 00:27:52,050
S10: me your life, and I will make all your dreams

536
00:27:52,050 --> 00:27:56,130
S10: come true. And the reality is, the promise is that

537
00:27:56,130 --> 00:27:59,530
S10: you get God. Not all of your dreams come true.

538
00:27:59,930 --> 00:28:03,090
S10: And that is so much more valuable than having having

539
00:28:03,090 --> 00:28:07,649
S10: a relationship with God. So I think the gospel in

540
00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:12,020
S10: grace is not opposed to effort, it's opposed to earning.

541
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S10: We don't earn any righteousness with God. He gives that

542
00:28:15,940 --> 00:28:19,260
S10: by grace we are saved through faith. However, the gospel

543
00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:23,220
S10: is not opposed to effort. Jesus said, take up your

544
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S10: cross and follow me.

545
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S3: Doctor Jared Nelms from the Timothy Initiative with us this morning.

546
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S3: Let's talk about the effort aspect of it. When you

547
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S3: approach discipleship with the model that Ty has laid out globally,

548
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S3: what does that look like practically? Talk a little bit

549
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S3: about the training that goes into discipleship.

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S10: Yeah, it's it's really based on a simple idea of

551
00:28:47,980 --> 00:28:52,020
S10: just just imagine a three legged stool in your mind. Uh,

552
00:28:52,180 --> 00:28:55,300
S10: it's easy to understand. Each of the legs of the

553
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S10: stool represent three aspects of what it means to be

554
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S10: a faithful disciple of Jesus. Knowing, doing, and sharing. So

555
00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:09,340
S10: knowing is what does the Bible say? What does Jesus

556
00:29:09,340 --> 00:29:12,340
S10: call us to do? Jesus said, if you love me,

557
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:16,020
S10: you will obey my commands. So to to obey his commands,

558
00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:19,660
S10: we first have to know what they are. Secondly is

559
00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:23,940
S10: the doing. We move from knowledge in our head to

560
00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:28,020
S10: action in our hands and our feet. Obviously, this is

561
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S10: based on a love in Christ Jesus. Obviously says to

562
00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:36,980
S10: abide in his love and as a result of that

563
00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:40,220
S10: we will go and bear fruit. So we know and

564
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S10: we do. However, discipleship is not just about me. Jesus

565
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:48,660
S10: has empowered us and sent us to go and proclaim

566
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S10: the gospel to the world. So everything that I know,

567
00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:56,500
S10: everything I'm doing in obedience to Christ, I'm also called

568
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S10: to share that with other people so that they can

569
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S10: know so that they can do and they can share

570
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S10: with others also.

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S1: Okay. This is one of the coolest, simple little three

572
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S1: legged illustrations I've ever heard, isn't it, Ali?

573
00:30:08,580 --> 00:30:09,540
S3: Very much so.

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S1: Okay, so here's where we're stuck, Jared and and I,

575
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S1: I think you would being raised in America, you would

576
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S1: get this. We are basically hung up on that first leg.

577
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S1: We're good on preaching and helping people, knowing that next

578
00:30:24,780 --> 00:30:28,020
S1: step of doing we're struggling. But there's there's been a

579
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S1: resurgence of this. But here's what's interesting. That sharing piece

580
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:36,820
S1: that's a huge deal. And here's what's wild, Jared. And

581
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S1: I'm just I just want a mosh pit with you

582
00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:42,180
S1: guys for a second here. Here's what's wild. Here's what's wild.

583
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S1: Brain scientists know that the greatest thing we can do

584
00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:50,500
S1: is get out of ourselves if we're in a funk.

585
00:30:50,540 --> 00:30:56,060
S1: Isn't that wild? So this just is this. This three

586
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:59,220
S1: legged stool. When I'm. I'm at this baptism broadcasting live

587
00:30:59,220 --> 00:31:03,140
S1: from there in Kenya, 50 folks getting baptized, and I

588
00:31:03,310 --> 00:31:06,390
S1: was broadcasting live. I look across the back row of

589
00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:09,430
S1: these guys and usually the back row of guys, they're

590
00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:11,630
S1: the ones that are screwing around in America, right? The

591
00:31:11,630 --> 00:31:14,709
S1: back row, these guys, these are young men there in

592
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:18,150
S1: the back row. Why? Because they can get more focused intent.

593
00:31:18,150 --> 00:31:22,750
S1: Their faces look like we're in this thing. I mean,

594
00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:26,950
S1: the earnestness was huge. So I think for all of

595
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:30,750
S1: us here, we know knowing we know doing champion the

596
00:31:30,750 --> 00:31:34,870
S1: sharing and how you've seen that impact the practical lives

597
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:37,350
S1: of people that you minister to around the globe.

598
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:41,990
S10: I think as as we see the hand of God

599
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:45,190
S10: and the work of God in our midst, it's really

600
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:52,470
S10: hard when you find this treasure, this thing that transforms

601
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:57,270
S10: your life, this thing that has changed your perspective and

602
00:31:57,270 --> 00:32:01,110
S10: ultimately your eternity. How can you not want to share

603
00:32:01,110 --> 00:32:04,630
S10: that with other people. And when you're dealing with people

604
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:09,190
S10: that are coming from, uh, darkness, living in context of

605
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:14,110
S10: foreign religions and worshiping gods and having no hope and

606
00:32:14,110 --> 00:32:17,470
S10: living in darkness, once you see the light, once you

607
00:32:17,470 --> 00:32:20,790
S10: receive Jesus, how can I not share that with my

608
00:32:20,790 --> 00:32:24,590
S10: brothers and sisters? So when you when you reach people

609
00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:28,630
S10: in that place, they can't help but tell other people.

610
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S1: Yeah.

611
00:32:29,710 --> 00:32:33,030
S3: Doctor Jared Nelms, give us a story to to close

612
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S3: us out here as you've been doing this work, overseeing

613
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S3: this ministry. Give us a story that you've seen recently

614
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:41,310
S3: that really encouraged you.

615
00:32:41,870 --> 00:32:44,110
S10: Yeah, this this story just came in a few months

616
00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:47,950
S10: back in Southeast Asia in a, in a Buddhist context.

617
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:52,350
S10: There was a young man, uh, that struggled with, uh,

618
00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:56,750
S10: some sort of depression or mental instability, and they took

619
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S10: him to doctors. They took him to which doctors and healers.

620
00:33:00,550 --> 00:33:05,830
S10: Everything they tried couldn't work and ultimately they ended up.

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S10: The only solution was to build a cage and to

622
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:14,230
S10: put him inside. And so for 21 years, this man

623
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S10: lived inside a cage, struggling, desperate. His his mother sought

624
00:33:19,710 --> 00:33:24,470
S10: every possible solution. Until one day they heard about an

625
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:30,110
S10: average ordinary believer who prayed in the name of Jesus

626
00:33:30,110 --> 00:33:34,350
S10: and things changed. So they asked this young guy to

627
00:33:34,390 --> 00:33:37,190
S10: come over. Could you pray for this guy that's been

628
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:39,750
S10: in the cage? The man in the cage? So he said, sure,

629
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S10: I would love to. Long story short, he goes to

630
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S10: the village. He finds the man in the cage desperate.

631
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:49,830
S10: The man doesn't really react until he starts praying in

632
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:52,830
S10: the name of Jesus. And the man starts listening. The

633
00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:56,870
S10: man prays for him. He is delivered. He's ultimately taken

634
00:33:56,870 --> 00:34:00,080
S10: out of the cage He has received Christ. He's been

635
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,560
S10: baptized and now he is a disciple that is going

636
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,160
S10: and making disciples in all the surrounding villages.

637
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:05,920
S9: Wow.

638
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,880
S1: Okay, okay. We can shut the show down today.

639
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,120
S11: It's incredible what God's doing.

640
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S1: Oh, Jared, that's like walking streets with Jesus type story

641
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,120
S1: right there. Ali.

642
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,240
S3: Yeah. Man, that is so encouraging.

643
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,279
S1: Okay, let's point people to him. They can at least

644
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,400
S1: learn more. Hold on to your shekels. We're going to

645
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,799
S1: have a party in here for 48 hours down the

646
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,239
S1: road in April. But my goodness, Ali, uh, how can

647
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,720
S1: folks find out more about TT?

648
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:42,439
S3: You can text disciple to 800 555 7898. Autocorrect should

649
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,160
S3: help you out on this one. Text disciple to 800

650
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S3: 555 7898.

651
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,840
S7: Standing on the rock. Each and every day you're listening

652
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,120
S7: to Carl and crew.

653
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,320
S1: Oh my goodness. I am just so pumped about today

654
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,960
S1: that last story. I'm still living in the fumes of

655
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,720
S1: it right now.

656
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,320
S3: The story that Doctor Jared Nelms shared with us. Yeah,

657
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S3: I mean, you you picture 21 years living in a cage.

658
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S1: In a cage because he's demonized. What? Call it what

659
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,759
S1: you will, as Jared said on In Bondage someway, somehow.

660
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,640
S1: But you have to say that that's demonic because he

661
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,560
S1: hears the name of Jesus. The minute Jesus was spoken

662
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,719
S1: over this guy, he opens his heart to hear hear

663
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,400
S1: the gospel that is out of the cage into Christ.

664
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,960
S1: Baptized now going around community, sharing the love of Jesus Christ.

665
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:37,839
S3: It's beautiful.

666
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,279
S9: Oh my goodness.

667
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,920
S1: That boom crew. I just need you to know the

668
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,319
S1: gospel changes everything. You might be going through something today

669
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,770
S1: and you're like, I don't know who's got this. The

670
00:35:56,810 --> 00:36:00,850
S1: same God who made mud patties put them on ice.

671
00:36:01,410 --> 00:36:05,410
S1: Who declared, get off that pallet and walk. Take it up.

672
00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:08,969
S1: The same God who looked at a thief on the

673
00:36:08,969 --> 00:36:12,930
S1: cross and said, today you will be with me in Paradise.

674
00:36:13,210 --> 00:36:17,850
S1: That God of the 11th hour, that God of the impossible,

675
00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:22,410
S1: that God of the improbable, is the God who loves

676
00:36:22,410 --> 00:36:26,610
S1: you today. Give your life to him, number one. Number two,

677
00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:30,210
S1: do what he tells you to do. And number three,

678
00:36:30,370 --> 00:36:34,570
S1: give it away. Because there's people in cages today all

679
00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:44,490
S1: around us who need to be set free. Man. It's

680
00:36:44,489 --> 00:36:47,850
S1: just an awesome thing to know Jesus Christ. Isn't it Ali?

681
00:36:47,890 --> 00:36:50,969
S3: It is. I mean, when you think about the the

682
00:36:51,170 --> 00:36:54,810
S3: back to the cage thing. I mean, physically caged for

683
00:36:54,850 --> 00:36:58,330
S3: for 21 years is so hard to imagine.

684
00:36:58,370 --> 00:36:59,089
S1: It's hard to get your head.

685
00:36:59,210 --> 00:37:02,450
S3: But at the same time, many people have been in

686
00:37:02,450 --> 00:37:07,850
S3: bondage in some way for many years, even if not physically, emotionally, spiritually.

687
00:37:07,850 --> 00:37:11,210
S3: There's so many things that can hold you captive to

688
00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:13,609
S3: where you don't. You feel. You don't feel any more

689
00:37:13,610 --> 00:37:15,489
S3: free than somebody living in a cage.

690
00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:22,170
S1: So true, so true. Well, we're championing discipleship all week long.

691
00:37:22,170 --> 00:37:25,569
S1: So we got a practical question. And this isn't for everyone,

692
00:37:25,969 --> 00:37:27,410
S1: but it might be for you.

693
00:37:27,850 --> 00:37:31,529
S3: Yeah. We're asking you more than just sharing their faith.

694
00:37:31,730 --> 00:37:36,930
S3: Someone showed you or maybe is showing you currently what

695
00:37:36,930 --> 00:37:39,729
S3: it looks like to walk like Jesus. Who was it?

696
00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:43,410
S3: Who was it for you? Who has shown you how

697
00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:49,650
S3: to walk like Jesus? 805 55 7898. Celebrating discipleship on

698
00:37:49,650 --> 00:37:54,810
S3: this Freedom Friday. Taking your calls 805 55 7898.

699
00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:59,730
S7: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.

700
00:37:59,969 --> 00:38:03,730
S7: Super di is in the crew. It's curl and crew

701
00:38:03,770 --> 00:38:05,009
S7: on Moody Radio.

702
00:38:05,170 --> 00:38:06,969
S1: Got a question for you, Ali. Take it away.

703
00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:09,570
S3: We're talking about discipleship this week, so we're asking you

704
00:38:09,610 --> 00:38:13,569
S3: more than just sharing their faith. Who showed you what

705
00:38:13,570 --> 00:38:18,970
S3: it looked like to walk with Jesus? 805 55 7898.

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00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:21,410
S3: Let's kick it off with Tyler calling in this morning

707
00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:26,090
S3: from Chattanooga, Tennessee. Tyler, who showed you what it looked like?

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S12: Yes. So when I was going to college at Mississippi

709
00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:33,169
S12: State University, I heard there was a guy discipling people

710
00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:36,170
S12: at the coffee house. I saw him there, sitting across

711
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:39,250
S12: the table from another student teaching him the Bible. And

712
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:40,770
S12: I said, hey, can I meet with you? I heard

713
00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:43,250
S12: you were Randy, the guy teaching the Bible, right? He said, yeah.

714
00:38:43,290 --> 00:38:45,450
S12: And and he he met with me. And the first

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S12: thing he said to me, he said, you know why

716
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S12: I do this, Tyler? And he pulled up. second Timothy

717
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:53,339
S12: two two and said, A man was faithful to teach me,

718
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S12: and I want to share it with you.

719
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S1: Boom, brother Randy Phillips.

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S3: That's awesome.

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S1: Oh, way to go, Tyler. Wow. Okay, that proves it

722
00:39:02,219 --> 00:39:04,500
S1: right there. Well, that was worth it all.

723
00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:05,140
S3: I love it.

724
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S1: Seth. First time caller. Uh, Bedford, Indiana. What do you say?

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S13: Yes, Mark. Uh, I have somebody that I went to

726
00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:16,739
S13: church with for about 2 or 3 weeks, and, and

727
00:39:16,739 --> 00:39:19,299
S13: he said that he saw something in me, and he

728
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:23,380
S13: grabbed me to the side and started mentoring to me.

729
00:39:23,739 --> 00:39:26,339
S13: And I started going to weekly class with him. And

730
00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:29,500
S13: he taught me that waking up every morning, reading the

731
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S13: Bible or listening to the scripture or listen to songs

732
00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:36,460
S13: just fills your cup and I tell you it does.

733
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:38,939
S13: It has done that so much for me. I just

734
00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:41,259
S13: want to give a shout out to Mark Blake. He

735
00:39:41,260 --> 00:39:45,259
S13: has been such a Bible thumper for me. He's been

736
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S13: really helping me out.

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S1: Yeah, Bible thumping gets a bad rap. Because you know what?

738
00:39:49,460 --> 00:39:52,819
S1: You need to thump a Bible. You gotta thump it.

739
00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:56,780
S1: Way to go, Seth. Boom, brother. Uh, taking your calls.

740
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S1: 800 555. 78. 98. More than just sharing their faith.

741
00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:04,620
S1: Who showed you how to walk like Jesus? It's called

742
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S1: disciple making. Let's get one more in here. Ally.

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S3: Amanda. First time caller from Chattanooga, Tennessee. Well represented this morning.

744
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S3: Tell us, who was it who showed you how to

745
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S3: walk like Jesus?

746
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S14: Yes. My mother has always just been such an inspiring, um, like.

747
00:40:25,180 --> 00:40:30,780
S14: And she is battling stage four cancer and throughout throughout

748
00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:35,380
S14: her whole for the last six years, while she's been battling, um,

749
00:40:35,420 --> 00:40:39,140
S14: her cancer journey, she has always just kept a consistent

750
00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:43,980
S14: joy and said that nothing could fill her joy. And, um,

751
00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:47,580
S14: she just walks Walks with Jesus daily and she's a

752
00:40:47,580 --> 00:40:51,620
S14: true inspiration. Way to go. Four of her children and

753
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S14: her 14 grandchildren.

754
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S2: Boom!

755
00:40:55,580 --> 00:40:58,540
S1: Having a mom like that who's not just a great mama,

756
00:40:58,540 --> 00:41:02,860
S1: but she's a disciple. And mama. That's huge. Sister boom.

757
00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:04,900
S1: Taking your calls right now.

758
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:08,500
S3: More than just sharing their faith. Who was it? Who

759
00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:12,460
S3: showed you or is showing you how to walk like Jesus?

760
00:41:12,460 --> 00:41:20,220
S3: 855 five 7898 Freedom Friday taking your calls 800 555 7898.

761
00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:24,259
S7: Helping you take the next step in your walk with Jesus.

762
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:28,500
S1: God longs for us today to seek him and ask

763
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,740
S1: him to move in ways that we never could.

764
00:41:30,860 --> 00:41:32,780
S7: You're listening to Carl and crew.

765
00:41:33,739 --> 00:41:37,540
S1: Yeah. And you, the boom crew are showing up. Showing out. Man.

766
00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:39,740
S1: God is on the move in lives.

767
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S3: Ali, we're asking you on this Freedom Friday. Who was it?

768
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:45,990
S3: Who's showing you or has shown you what it looks

769
00:41:45,989 --> 00:41:49,030
S3: like to walk with Jesus. Let's go to Eric calling

770
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S3: this morning from Clay center, Kansas. Tell us, who was it?

771
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S15: Oh, gosh, I was hoping I wouldn't do this.

772
00:41:57,310 --> 00:41:58,110
S3: Oh. It's okay.

773
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:59,069
S15: Oh. Forgive me.

774
00:41:59,310 --> 00:42:00,750
S16: It's all right. No, no, dude.

775
00:42:00,790 --> 00:42:03,549
S1: Men. Men cry. As a matter of fact, let me

776
00:42:03,550 --> 00:42:05,469
S1: just tell you right now, you're getting the Carl and

777
00:42:05,469 --> 00:42:10,230
S1: Crew prize pack because you cry. So now, don't be

778
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:12,710
S1: coming in here with fake tears. All right, go ahead.

779
00:42:12,750 --> 00:42:17,630
S15: No. I'm not. Oh, man. Uh, I'm 71 years old,

780
00:42:17,830 --> 00:42:22,390
S15: and in 1974, I was 26 years old. I gave

781
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S15: my life to Christ. And shortly after that, it was

782
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:29,070
S15: a lay witness mission at our Methodist church. The kids

783
00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:32,550
S15: that came, I called ourselves kids at that time. They said,

784
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:34,550
S15: you've got to come with us to our youth group

785
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:39,670
S15: meeting in Abilene, Kansas, this rancher. But he he puts

786
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:44,030
S15: on these youth retreats through him. He had his basement

787
00:42:44,030 --> 00:42:47,590
S15: full of kids in the evening. Two evenings a week.

788
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:51,630
S15: Then later on, I was introduced to John Balderston, and

789
00:42:51,630 --> 00:42:55,270
S15: at that time he was a 7576 year old bus

790
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:59,069
S15: driver slash mechanic in a small school district. Him and

791
00:42:59,070 --> 00:43:04,029
S15: grandma traveled and put on youth retreats at different churches

792
00:43:04,030 --> 00:43:09,589
S15: for two days, and it was, oh, I learned so

793
00:43:09,590 --> 00:43:13,270
S15: much from him. I miss him so much, but I'm missing.

794
00:43:13,310 --> 00:43:16,229
S15: I know where he's at. But when I say I

795
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:20,390
S15: miss him, I miss his encouragement and his teaching of

796
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:24,030
S15: just his and his. I got my tears from him

797
00:43:24,070 --> 00:43:27,390
S15: because he would cry buckets. But anyway, thank you for

798
00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:27,910
S15: the time.

799
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:31,230
S1: But Eric, you're a good man, 71 years old, and

800
00:43:31,230 --> 00:43:33,190
S1: you can look back and you can point to a

801
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:35,469
S1: time in a basement, in a house, two nights a

802
00:43:35,469 --> 00:43:39,509
S1: week and encouragement along the way. That is discipleship, and

803
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:42,550
S1: we all need it in. The tears are flowing all

804
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:43,870
S1: these years later. Ali.

805
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:47,629
S3: It's so encouraging to hear these different like discipleship can

806
00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:52,550
S3: look different, right? It's the basement of someone's home who's

807
00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:55,390
S3: agreed to take on some kids. What did it look

808
00:43:55,390 --> 00:43:59,029
S3: like for you, Sheri? First time caller from Lebanon, Indiana.

809
00:43:59,030 --> 00:44:01,910
S3: Tell us, who was it who showed you how to

810
00:44:01,950 --> 00:44:03,069
S3: walk with Jesus?

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S14: It was my brother, my brother Dave. And he is

812
00:44:06,270 --> 00:44:09,270
S14: just an awesome Christian man. He never miss an opportunity

813
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:11,710
S14: to pray. And right now he is in South Sudan

814
00:44:11,710 --> 00:44:15,070
S14: working in an orphanage. Uh, that he has been, uh,

815
00:44:15,830 --> 00:44:19,270
S14: been so effective with. And he's just my inspiration. And

816
00:44:19,550 --> 00:44:23,230
S14: just every time we're together, it's just about the Lord.

817
00:44:23,230 --> 00:44:26,310
S14: And I love him so much. He's been an inspiration.

818
00:44:26,350 --> 00:44:28,310
S1: Well, how about you? Is he an older brother?

819
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:32,070
S14: He is a younger brother. He's my baby brother.

820
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S1: Oh my word, baby brother. Taking the discipleship to the fam.

821
00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:39,240
S1: That's awesome. How about that Sherry?

822
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,200
S3: That's beautiful.

823
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,040
S14: Yeah. He's awesome. I love him, and I love the Lord. And.

824
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,439
S14: And we both just grow together. It's just so wonderful. Uh,

825
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,200
S14: discipleship is amazing.

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S1: Yeah. I guarantee you, Eric, if your brother. If he

827
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,680
S1: could get on here right now, he'd be saying, oh, no,

828
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,520
S1: my big sister. She's the inspiration in my life. It

829
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,480
S1: works both ways.

830
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,399
S2: Yeah. It does.

831
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S3: Sherry, thank you so much. First time caller from Indiana.

832
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,759
S3: Really appreciate that story.

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S1: Uh.

834
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S2: You know, I was thinking, as we're talking about this

835
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,279
S2: when I was, uh, young in in the faith, the

836
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,040
S2: genuine faith, uh, you know, because when I was away

837
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,440
S2: from God, I believed in him, but I didn't have

838
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,680
S2: any desire to follow him. And so I didn't want

839
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,440
S2: to do anything. And when I came to faith, I

840
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,440
S2: kind of swung to the other side of the pendulum

841
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,400
S2: where I wanted to follow him so much. But I

842
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,560
S2: was also kind of being legalistic and very worried about it,

843
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,320
S2: that I was still kind of earning a place with God.

844
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,640
S2: And and when I messed up that it just was

845
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,640
S2: it was the most devastating kind of uncomfortable thing. M

846
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,600
S2: and a man named Doug discipled me, and he really

847
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,080
S2: taught me about about the the now and not yet

848
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,680
S2: where it's like, you know, I am forgiven. And yes,

849
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,640
S2: I still do make mistakes, but I'm forgiven. And when

850
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,880
S2: I pray and I talk to God about my mistakes,

851
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,279
S2: I am forgiven. And he said to me, this thing.

852
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,280
S2: He said, yes, pray to God for forgiveness. And he said,

853
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,360
S2: but also once you pray and ask for forgiveness, thank

854
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,239
S2: him that you are forgiven, because that's how true and

855
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,640
S2: how immediate it is. You don't have to earn your

856
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,000
S2: place back with him, you just gives it to you.

857
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,320
S2: That was so helpful for me.

858
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,359
S1: Yeah, that's such a beautiful thing because there's a lot

859
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,000
S1: of people that get paralyzed with, uh. It's the paralysis

860
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,359
S1: of overanalysis. You know what I'm saying?

861
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,719
S2: Oh, my gosh, it's so true. It's so true.

862
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,160
S1: Yeah, man, what a beautiful thing. Oh my word. What

863
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,400
S1: a what a week, Ali.

864
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,960
S3: Yeah. You know, just an encouragement. If there's someone in

865
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,800
S3: your life, even if you didn't call in, but someone

866
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,200
S3: in your life who really has modeled walking like Jesus

867
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,719
S3: for you. Send him a text or pick up the

868
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,400
S3: phone or write a letter. Or you know, and maybe,

869
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,480
S3: you know, if they're not, if they're no longer with us,

870
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,440
S3: they're on to their reward. Thank God for them today.

871
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,520
S1: A men and let it be. Oh my goodness, I'm

872
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:58,839
S1: going to spontaneously combust. It's like wow, freedom Friday guys.

873
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,440
S1: Walk in that freedom and share it. Give it away.

874
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,480
S7: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl

875
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,080
S7: and crew.

876
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,960
S1: I can only imagine. Is a phrase that has been used.

877
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,839
S1: For how many years would you say?

878
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,520
S2: I can only imagine. For how long?

879
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,360
S4: Really?

880
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,759
S1: That's not fair, man. That's not fair. That's not right.

881
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,680
S2: I don't know about long time.

882
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,879
S1: What about. I can only imagine two that hasn't been

883
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,200
S1: said very often.

884
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,560
S2: No, no, no, not very often. Especially when it's the

885
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,170
S2: number two and not to.

886
00:47:33,370 --> 00:47:35,770
S17: True, but the original song 1999.

887
00:47:36,170 --> 00:47:37,730
S1: 1999.

888
00:47:37,810 --> 00:47:40,170
S3: That song was such a classic.

889
00:47:40,330 --> 00:47:43,529
S17: I mean, mainstream into the early 2000. It stayed on

890
00:47:43,530 --> 00:47:44,130
S17: the charts.

891
00:47:44,170 --> 00:47:46,049
S2: I was three.

892
00:47:47,370 --> 00:47:49,410
S1: Oh my goodness.

893
00:47:50,410 --> 00:47:52,649
S3: The cool thing about that song is it became a

894
00:47:52,650 --> 00:47:54,530
S3: crossover classic.

895
00:47:54,570 --> 00:47:57,450
S17: Did it? That's what I'm saying. 1999 it was released,

896
00:47:57,450 --> 00:48:00,130
S17: but by the early 2000 it was mainstream all the way.

897
00:48:00,170 --> 00:48:00,650
S2: I didn't know.

898
00:48:00,650 --> 00:48:03,649
S17: That the the movie, the first movie did not come

899
00:48:03,650 --> 00:48:08,210
S17: out until 2018, but that song has stayed the course.

900
00:48:08,250 --> 00:48:08,930
S2: Yeah. That's awesome.

901
00:48:08,969 --> 00:48:12,250
S1: It's got staying power. Well, who in the world is

902
00:48:12,250 --> 00:48:17,250
S1: featured in this second release of I Can Only Imagine.

903
00:48:17,530 --> 00:48:19,210
S3: Not the song, but the movie.

904
00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:22,049
S1: The movie. I can only imagine. Two. Who in the

905
00:48:22,050 --> 00:48:24,770
S1: world is it? We gotta find this guy. Could somebody.

906
00:48:24,810 --> 00:48:26,410
S1: Could somebody find him for us?

907
00:48:26,890 --> 00:48:27,770
S2: Oh, look at that, I found him.

908
00:48:27,810 --> 00:48:28,330
S17: I'm on it.

909
00:48:28,410 --> 00:48:32,730
S1: Okay. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. guys. You guys are on it. Ali,

910
00:48:32,770 --> 00:48:33,770
S1: set it up, sister.

911
00:48:33,810 --> 00:48:36,890
S3: Yeah, we've got Tim Timmons joining us coming up today.

912
00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:40,810
S3: The released the movie I Can Only Imagine to it

913
00:48:40,850 --> 00:48:45,530
S3: explores the personal, heartfelt story behind the hit song that's

914
00:48:45,530 --> 00:48:47,050
S3: coming up here on Karl and crew.

915
00:48:47,530 --> 00:48:50,609
S7: He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you

916
00:48:50,610 --> 00:48:54,850
S7: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's

917
00:48:54,850 --> 00:48:57,170
S7: Karl and crew on Moody Radio.

918
00:48:57,370 --> 00:49:00,730
S3: Well, how about heading to the theater this weekend? That

919
00:49:00,730 --> 00:49:03,330
S3: lots of movies you could see. But there's one that

920
00:49:03,330 --> 00:49:06,330
S3: probably is going to stand out. Man. A Christian movie

921
00:49:06,330 --> 00:49:09,490
S3: on the big screen, I can only imagine. Two out

922
00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:15,250
S3: Today explores the personal, heartfelt story behind 2017 hit song

923
00:49:15,250 --> 00:49:19,810
S3: called Even If We have Tim Timmons, singer songwriter with us,

924
00:49:19,810 --> 00:49:23,450
S3: who spent over two decades in ministry writing songs both

925
00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:27,130
S3: from his personal experience. Talk about what it was like

926
00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:30,690
S3: to see your story on the big screen in this movie.

927
00:49:30,690 --> 00:49:32,010
S3: I can only imagine too.

928
00:49:32,290 --> 00:49:35,290
S18: Yeah, well, apparently I'm really good looking. I mean, when

929
00:49:35,290 --> 00:49:38,770
S18: you just see who plays me, it's like I'm. I'm

930
00:49:38,810 --> 00:49:42,650
S18: better than I thought. I keep telling my wife, um, no,

931
00:49:42,690 --> 00:49:45,330
S18: it is. It has been such a huge honor. I mean,

932
00:49:45,330 --> 00:49:48,450
S18: I don't take myself that serious. I take Jesus real serious,

933
00:49:48,450 --> 00:49:50,969
S18: but not myself. And so it's just kind of it's

934
00:49:50,969 --> 00:49:54,130
S18: fun to watch. And Milo has just become really close friends.

935
00:49:54,130 --> 00:49:56,489
S18: So just watching my friend play me. But I think

936
00:49:56,489 --> 00:49:58,290
S18: there's a piece of it, you know, watching with my

937
00:49:58,290 --> 00:50:01,530
S18: cancer journey that I really like found compassion and empathy

938
00:50:01,530 --> 00:50:04,290
S18: for myself. It's like, I wish everybody could just sit

939
00:50:04,290 --> 00:50:05,650
S18: and watch their life.

940
00:50:05,650 --> 00:50:05,850
S16: Story.

941
00:50:05,850 --> 00:50:08,569
S18: Outside of themselves, right? I mean, like, what a gift

942
00:50:08,570 --> 00:50:10,330
S18: that is. That's been really special.

943
00:50:10,610 --> 00:50:12,569
S1: Tim, let's back up a little bit because we can

944
00:50:12,570 --> 00:50:15,530
S1: do something here that the movie can't actually maybe drill

945
00:50:15,530 --> 00:50:17,770
S1: down on. But what was it like when you first

946
00:50:17,770 --> 00:50:21,570
S1: got the word man that you were big time afflicted here?

947
00:50:21,610 --> 00:50:23,250
S1: What flashed through your brain?

948
00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:25,970
S18: Yeah. I mean, they gave me five years to live

949
00:50:26,010 --> 00:50:29,859
S18: 25 years ago. Um, and there's still tumors on my

950
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:33,379
S18: liver today wearing out my heart. They say. I think

951
00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:37,339
S18: when I first found out, uh, it was just shock. And,

952
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:40,379
S18: you know, everybody goes through their own process, and that's

953
00:50:40,380 --> 00:50:42,460
S18: that's a whole nother book that I'll write of just

954
00:50:42,460 --> 00:50:44,700
S18: trying to help people in the beginning of their process,

955
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:48,580
S18: of their stages of grief. But I think the greatest

956
00:50:48,580 --> 00:50:53,299
S18: gift of sorrow and calamity and whatever things that we're

957
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:56,860
S18: going through is sobriety. I mean, it's perspective. It's like,

958
00:50:57,460 --> 00:50:59,859
S18: you know, not necessarily alcohol and drugs. Maybe that's what

959
00:50:59,860 --> 00:51:02,299
S18: it is, but it's sobriety. And just in today, like

960
00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:05,580
S18: I woke up again today and I write this X

961
00:51:05,580 --> 00:51:07,540
S18: and I've written it for so many years on my wrist.

962
00:51:07,540 --> 00:51:10,020
S18: That's a really big part of this movie that comes

963
00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:12,219
S18: out today. So people go see it. The X that

964
00:51:12,219 --> 00:51:14,860
S18: I write on my wrist stood for the Christ, and

965
00:51:14,860 --> 00:51:16,899
S18: it was just my reminder of like, Jesus, you woke

966
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:20,020
S18: me up again today. I want to be sober today

967
00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:22,900
S18: like I want to. I want to practice what you

968
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:24,739
S18: want to practice. I want to join you in what

969
00:51:24,739 --> 00:51:28,700
S18: you're doing. So it has really changed my life. And

970
00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:32,580
S18: even still, having this diagnosis and tumors in my body,

971
00:51:32,620 --> 00:51:35,899
S18: it's like, okay, who knows? Who knows if I get

972
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:38,100
S18: tomorrow and if I do, then I will wake up

973
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:40,380
S18: and join Jesus again. So that's what's been such a

974
00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:43,140
S18: great gift of cancer. I hate cancer, but that's been

975
00:51:43,140 --> 00:51:44,580
S18: a gift that God has brought through it.

976
00:51:45,140 --> 00:51:48,580
S3: Now that song, even if by Mercy Me, which inspired

977
00:51:48,580 --> 00:51:51,819
S3: the movie, I can only imagine too, that you wrote

978
00:51:51,820 --> 00:51:55,940
S3: this song. You said you create what you call prayers

979
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:58,739
S3: set to music. Talk a little bit about what it's what.

980
00:51:58,739 --> 00:52:01,940
S3: It's like writing songs from a place of of pain,

981
00:52:01,940 --> 00:52:03,900
S3: but also deep faith in Christ.

982
00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:07,340
S18: Yeah, I mean, everybody who's listening. You have a gift.

983
00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:10,300
S18: There's something in our gifts are not for us. Right?

984
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:15,020
S18: Everybody like like my my songwriting. If it's for me,

985
00:52:15,020 --> 00:52:17,380
S18: then I'm just. I'm not even seeing the kingdom of God.

986
00:52:17,380 --> 00:52:19,860
S18: I'm seeing the kingdom of Tim. And so one of

987
00:52:19,860 --> 00:52:21,740
S18: the gifts that I have is I get to write

988
00:52:21,739 --> 00:52:26,100
S18: my prayers, and I, I put them to songs. And now,

989
00:52:26,219 --> 00:52:28,500
S18: you know, millions of people get to pray those prayers

990
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:31,580
S18: with me. So I get to help Jesus. People pray

991
00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:35,140
S18: all week long. And really, that's what I'm doing. And

992
00:52:35,140 --> 00:52:37,140
S18: I don't really care about writing more Christian music. I

993
00:52:37,140 --> 00:52:38,739
S18: don't know how much more of that we need, but

994
00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:41,819
S18: like prayers that help us follow and join Jesus. I'm

995
00:52:41,860 --> 00:52:44,020
S18: totally in. So that's what I get to do. And

996
00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:46,460
S18: that's why I write all that I write.

997
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:48,540
S1: I got a lot of questions that are cropping up here,

998
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:52,740
S1: but a low hanging fruit. One is what do people

999
00:52:52,739 --> 00:52:56,779
S1: need to know about talking? First words out of their

1000
00:52:56,780 --> 00:52:59,180
S1: mouth when they got a friend that's come down with

1001
00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:03,100
S1: some kind of debilitating disease, or a prognosis that is

1002
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:05,739
S1: bad news, man. What do they need to do? We

1003
00:53:05,739 --> 00:53:08,300
S1: know that what they shouldn't do is slap Bible verses.

1004
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:10,740
S1: We get that. But what do they need to do?

1005
00:53:11,420 --> 00:53:13,819
S18: I don't fully know. Everybody's so different, right? I've got

1006
00:53:13,820 --> 00:53:15,420
S18: a few friends that are in the middle of it

1007
00:53:15,420 --> 00:53:18,380
S18: right now, some of my best friends. But I think

1008
00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:22,590
S18: Jesus people have been traditionally really bad at grief like

1009
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:26,910
S18: we wallpaper over grief like nobody's business. Because what we

1010
00:53:26,910 --> 00:53:30,150
S18: say is life's really hard. But you know what? God's good.

1011
00:53:30,190 --> 00:53:33,230
S18: And we put that butt word right in there. And

1012
00:53:33,230 --> 00:53:35,870
S18: I'm not a big fan of the butt word. I

1013
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:40,350
S18: think the word and is way more helpful. Yes. So hard.

1014
00:53:40,350 --> 00:53:43,150
S18: And God is good. And what if these two can,

1015
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:47,469
S18: like grief and gratitude, live in the same space? I mean,

1016
00:53:47,469 --> 00:53:50,750
S18: Jesus held that that tension all the time, and yet

1017
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:52,670
S18: we kind of just wallpaper over it and we're like,

1018
00:53:52,670 --> 00:53:54,790
S18: you know, that's why we slap Bible verses is we're like,

1019
00:53:54,830 --> 00:53:56,589
S18: you know, it's going to be okay and or God's

1020
00:53:56,590 --> 00:53:58,510
S18: going to do it. It's like, great, I love faith,

1021
00:53:58,550 --> 00:54:02,030
S18: I can have faith and be sad, you know, like, yeah,

1022
00:54:02,270 --> 00:54:05,270
S18: these don't have to be exclusive. So for me, when

1023
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:08,790
S18: I'm with somebody, often I'm just I practice just being

1024
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:11,950
S18: sad with them. Like, I just say, I'm so sorry.

1025
00:54:12,270 --> 00:54:15,270
S18: And I'm just. I'm for you. Like, that's all sometimes

1026
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:18,430
S18: people really need. And the Bible verses, God can do that.

1027
00:54:18,430 --> 00:54:20,709
S18: And later, when it's right, when Jesus opens that door,

1028
00:54:20,750 --> 00:54:22,670
S18: then that's the time to do that. But you know,

1029
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:26,990
S18: there's a sitting. Shiva is the Hebrews would use this

1030
00:54:26,989 --> 00:54:30,070
S18: this concept in the early Bible times of sitting Shiva.

1031
00:54:30,070 --> 00:54:32,670
S18: And when somebody was grieving, they would just do whatever

1032
00:54:32,670 --> 00:54:35,630
S18: that person did. If that person needed to eat, they

1033
00:54:35,630 --> 00:54:37,109
S18: would eat with them. If they needed to cry, they

1034
00:54:37,110 --> 00:54:38,830
S18: would all cry with them. If they needed to jump

1035
00:54:38,830 --> 00:54:41,310
S18: up and dance, they would dance with them. So if

1036
00:54:41,310 --> 00:54:43,669
S18: Jesus people can be better at just joining Jesus in

1037
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:47,029
S18: each other's grief, I think we'd have a much healthier community.

1038
00:54:47,390 --> 00:54:51,110
S3: Okay, so the movie I can only imagine to an

1039
00:54:51,150 --> 00:54:53,830
S3: all star cast, if you if you saw the first,

1040
00:54:53,830 --> 00:54:56,549
S3: I can only imagine, uh, and this one is going

1041
00:54:56,590 --> 00:54:59,230
S3: to be just as entertaining. Dennis Quaid and then you

1042
00:54:59,230 --> 00:55:03,870
S3: mentioned Milo Ventimiglia, who many people will know from This

1043
00:55:03,870 --> 00:55:06,350
S3: Is Us, his fame, their.

1044
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:07,550
S18: Gilmore Girls, all.

1045
00:55:07,550 --> 00:55:10,470
S16: These things. Yeah, man. He's he's a total stud.

1046
00:55:10,510 --> 00:55:14,750
S3: And he plays you. So just from the pure entertainment value,

1047
00:55:14,790 --> 00:55:17,109
S3: you go and watch a movie. You want to. You

1048
00:55:17,110 --> 00:55:19,790
S3: want to feel something, but you also want to just

1049
00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:23,549
S3: enjoy those two hours. This is an entertaining movie, right?

1050
00:55:23,590 --> 00:55:26,230
S18: It is. I think you will laugh a whole bunch

1051
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:28,910
S18: people and then you'll probably cry a whole bunch. It's

1052
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:32,590
S18: I'm so proud of this movie and what it's actually doing.

1053
00:55:32,590 --> 00:55:34,830
S18: And for people to see it in a theater, there's

1054
00:55:34,830 --> 00:55:39,110
S18: something really special about people not feeling alone. There's so

1055
00:55:39,110 --> 00:55:41,029
S18: many times when we feel alone, but I think this movie,

1056
00:55:41,070 --> 00:55:43,630
S18: even by the end, we get to do some things

1057
00:55:43,630 --> 00:55:46,630
S18: like collectively as a whole theater. So I would encourage

1058
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:48,430
S18: you to go see it, you know, in theaters, because

1059
00:55:48,430 --> 00:55:51,509
S18: it's actually really special to do something like this and

1060
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:53,189
S18: be a part of the church together.

1061
00:55:53,230 --> 00:55:54,430
S16: You, Tim.

1062
00:55:54,910 --> 00:55:56,830
S1: You said a hook right there, right at the end

1063
00:55:56,830 --> 00:55:57,390
S1: of that thing.

1064
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:59,870
S16: Yeah. We're doing something. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.

1065
00:55:59,870 --> 00:56:02,630
S18: It's true, but it's like there's something so special. And

1066
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:04,430
S18: at the end, there's something. You guys may not have

1067
00:56:04,430 --> 00:56:06,629
S18: seen it yet, but there's something at the end that's

1068
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:09,710
S18: really special for people, like for the whole, for the

1069
00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:13,670
S18: whole cinema to do together. It's actually it's really, really beautiful.

1070
00:56:13,710 --> 00:56:14,990
S18: So yeah, you know.

1071
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:17,600
S1: I want to tell you something. I was around Tim

1072
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,040
S1: briefly when I was teaching a bit at a little

1073
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,680
S1: church called Mariners Church, and Tim Timmons was leading worship.

1074
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,680
S1: And you know what, bro? I want to tell you something.

1075
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,440
S1: You impacted thousands of people there who would have thunk

1076
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,400
S1: what happened?

1077
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,640
S18: Happened, right?

1078
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:33,919
S16: Huh?

1079
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,319
S18: Right. I mean, yeah, yeah. I quit working for God

1080
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,759
S18: 15 years ago. I quit working for him. I've worked

1081
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,080
S18: for him my whole life, and it, uh, it was exhausting,

1082
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,160
S18: so I quit. I turned in my papers and everything,

1083
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,240
S18: and I just said, Jesus for the rest of my days.

1084
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,319
S18: I will never work for you again, but I will

1085
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,839
S18: join you in anything that you're doing. So if you

1086
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,760
S18: want to open up doors that are best for your kingdom,

1087
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,400
S18: I will walk through that. If I'm just supposed to

1088
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,640
S18: work at Starbucks, which is amazing, then I'll work at

1089
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,759
S18: Starbucks and I'll join you there. So that's really my

1090
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,680
S18: favorite part of this movie coming out. It's like I

1091
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,399
S18: didn't open any doors. Jesus keeps opening doors. What's best

1092
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,120
S18: for his kingdom, not mine. So that's like my favorite

1093
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:08,760
S18: part of this.

1094
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,920
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1095
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,439
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1096
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1097
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1098
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1099
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1100
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1101
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1102
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S7: You're listening to Curl and Crew on Moody Radio.

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S1: Okay, before I do my or my trumpet call and

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S1: I'm going to do that. Oh, guys, have we got

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00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,400
S1: a beautiful setup for this, the three legged stool that

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00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,840
S1: we were talking about this last hour of discipleship, knowing, doing, sharing.

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00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,240
S1: It's one thing to know, it's another thing to do,

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00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,480
S1: and it's another thing to hit the button and send it.

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00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,080
S16: Share it now with me.

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S1: You know where I'm going.

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00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,000
S3: I, um, I don't.

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S1: You don't.

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00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,360
S3: I don't know.

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S19: That was the best answer ever. Sorry, I.

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S1: I don't. Okay. All right. So so here's the deal.

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S1: We've got this deal and and let me explain it

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00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,160
S1: this way.

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00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,439
S6: Do do do do do do do do do do

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00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,120
S6: do do do do do do do do do do

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S6: do do do.

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S1: My trumpets not working really well but it's it's there.

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S1: Well so here's the deal. We've got this video thing now.

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S1: We've got 70 plus links that have gone out so

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S1: people know about it. Some people might be doing it,

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S1: but we have yet to have one person share it

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S1: back with us yet. So we got a red alert

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S1: going here. So cast the vision for this thing, Ali.

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S1: And we got to have some folks do some discipleship principles,

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S1: even with this offer that we're giving them.

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S3: Now I got you. Yeah, we are doing this for

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00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,730
S3: our upcoming spring share, and we are inviting you, our listener,

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S3: to share a testimonial. If there's something specific that you

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00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:18,370
S3: can point to that God has used Moody Radio for

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S3: help to take a next step, maybe helped you take

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S3: a first step. We're simply asking you in video form

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S3: to share that, and we're going to put together a compilation.

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S3: It's going to be a great, great project. We've been

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S3: working on. So are you willing to do that? 70

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S3: of you have texted to get the information we've given

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00:59:36,130 --> 00:59:39,210
S3: you like a week to get these things recorded, but

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00:59:39,250 --> 00:59:43,050
S3: obviously sooner is better. So if you are able to

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S3: willing to give glory to God, share that testimony. Text

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00:59:46,570 --> 00:59:51,490
S3: video to 800 555 7898. We're not going to talk

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S3: much about it after this week, after today. So this

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00:59:55,930 --> 00:59:57,650
S3: is going to kind of be a last call sort

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S3: of thing. So go ahead and text video to 800

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01:00:01,010 --> 01:00:05,970
S3: 555 7898. All you need is a laptop or desktop

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S3: computer with a webcam. And most of them nowadays have

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01:00:08,970 --> 01:00:11,810
S3: them built in. We'll send you a link. Step by

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S3: step instructions. You'll click record. Talk with a prompt that

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01:00:15,490 --> 01:00:18,689
S3: will give you for about 30s and send it our way.

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S3: Text video to (800) 555-7898.

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S1: Guys. And if some of you are wondering, man, is

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S1: this toot my own horn? No, this has got it working. You.

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S2: Yeah. We're celebrating God's faithfulness. Yeah, that's all we're doing.

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S1: Yeah. And so we're we're needing you to jump in here,

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S1: grab the link. Do it. Just as God's Spirit. We

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01:00:40,090 --> 01:00:43,850
S1: want God's Spirit prompting you, for sure. But we're asking

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S1: you to jump in. And what a testimony, guys. Some

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S1: of you have stories that like peel, paint. It's like

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01:00:50,050 --> 01:00:52,209
S1: strip it right down to the raw wood. It's like,

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01:00:52,250 --> 01:00:56,930
S1: oh my goodness. And it can be overcoming something. It

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01:00:56,930 --> 01:01:00,570
S1: can be new birth in Christ. You repented of your sins,

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S1: and through Moody Radio, you maybe made that. You had

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01:01:05,050 --> 01:01:08,050
S1: that breakthrough where the Holy Spirit moved in your life.

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S1: And it could be a a reorienting orienting of your life. And, uh.

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S1: Could be financial stewardship as a result of this, uh,

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S1: there's myriad ways in which you can feature what God

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S1: has done in your life through Moody Radio. And it's

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S1: the operative words there, what God has done in your life.

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S1: So come and get it, guys. Next video I'm smacking

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S1: stuff in the studio here. Text video to 800 555 7898.

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01:01:40,570 --> 01:01:48,090
S1: Video to 800 555 7898 are links are going out.

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01:01:48,130 --> 01:01:53,410
S1: Be sure to grab it. Ali and Savannah. Savannah primarily

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01:01:53,450 --> 01:01:55,610
S1: has done a great job teeing it up for you.

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S1: Come and get it. Text. Video. Tour number.

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S7: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to

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S7: Carl and crew.

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S1: Oh, we're gonna miss her. She's been dialed in and delivering. Yes.

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S1: Our Olympic correspondent. It's 8:00 central time. Cathy is with us. Right?

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S1: We need some theme music.

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S2: Yeah. Hold on. Give me two.

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S1: Seconds. We gotta. We gotta have that loaded up. Hold

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S1: the phone.

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S2: And here you are.

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S1: Hold the phone. Cathy. Good to have you with us, sister.

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S20: Good morning.

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S1: All right. What do we need to know?

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S20: So there are 60 minutes in a hockey game and

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S20: 57 minutes and 56 seconds into the game. Everyone thought

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S20: the Canadian women would win the gold, but in the

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S20: final two minutes, the U.S. women sent the game into

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S20: overtime and then scored.

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S19: So that's exciting. Cathy.

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S3: There were the our American women did really well yesterday

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S3: all the way around. Talk about what else happened.

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S20: Um, well, it's been. Well, first, let's finish hockey. You know,

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S20: the women's U.S. team has medaled in every Olympics since

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S20: the event was introduced in 98. I think you called

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S20: that domination. Um, one of those women said, my grandma

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S20: always told me that girls don't play hockey. Well, it

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S20: turns out they grow up into women and they play

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S20: hockey and they win gold medals.

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S19: Love it.

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S1: Yeah, it's just great. And that overtime goal. That's the

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S1: only I didn't see the one that tied it with

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S1: the with like just a couple of minutes left in regulation.

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S1: But the one that they won with in overtime. Oh

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S1: my word. It was absolutely beautiful. Little move to the left.

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S1: Little juke to the right. Hockey puck between the skate

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S1: and the and the hockey stick of Canada. And then

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S1: tapped right into the net. Oh it was a beautiful

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S1: it was a beautiful score. Um. Awesome highlights. All right.

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S1: What else do we need to know, Cathy?

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S20: So, you know, it's been 24 years since team USA

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S20: won gold in women's single figure skating, but Alysa Liu

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S20: changed that. Still, sportsmanship rules even though her score was

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S20: guaranteed to give her a medal despite all the stakes,

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S20: she sat at the Rinkside at the sideline and clapped

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S20: and cheered on her silver and bronze winning Japanese competitors.

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S20: And Carl, I think you have some backstory on Alissa

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S20: for us.

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S1: Oh my goodness. Well, I they kept saying, you know

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S1: this girl has she came back. She came back. So

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S1: I'm like, well came back from what? Somebody tell us

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S1: what's going on. And they didn't say what she came

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S1: back from. And probably because the story is a little

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S1: bit crazy. But her dad, Tiananmen Square, happened in China

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S1: back in the day. He immigrated to get away from it.

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S1: I don't know all the details around that, but all

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S1: I know is that when she was marching toward, I think,

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S1: the Olympics four years ago, was she in the Olympics

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S1: four years ago was just World Cup stuff.

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S20: Hard questions. You know the rule on that.

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S19: Okay. All right.

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S1: So anyway, whatever it was, China was actually touching base

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S1: with her stateside. So much so the State Department had

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S1: to get 24 over seven security around her family. Her

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S1: dad and herself. That's not good. And she got burned out.

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S1: And that probably was a contributing factor. She walked away

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S1: from the sport and said, I want to have friends.

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S1: I want to have fun. She set down the skates.

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S1: And would you believe the rest of the story is this.

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S1: She went skiing with some friends and loved the beauty

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S1: of kind of turning on skis, and it reminded her

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S1: of the skates. Picked him up in 2024 just to

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S1: go have fun and thought, no, my joy is coming

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S1: back for this sport and the rest is history.

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S19: Love that.

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S20: Wow.

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S19: I love that.

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S3: Comeback.

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S20: That's incredible. Yeah.

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S19: Okay.

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S20: Cathy Did any of you see the women's moguls finals?

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S20: I did, you know, these athletes mogul it down the slope,

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01:06:05,150 --> 01:06:08,150
S20: do a flip off a ramp, moguls some more, and

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S20: then they slide across the finish line upright and fast.

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S20: So moguls.

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S1: More moguls. More. Yeah. I gotta tell you, it's a young.

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S1: It's a young person's sport because your knees are getting

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S1: blasted through those moguls. But what, uh, what's the outcome?

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S20: So two Americans, Lumley and Cough, upset the field and

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S20: brought home the gold and the silver.

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S19: Woo!

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S2: Go, America!

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S19: All right, Cathy, what's.

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S3: The medal count?

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S20: Um, our medal count for today is, I said, our

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S20: medal count. You know, even though when I'm on the slope,

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S20: I always avoid the black diamond. Difficult runs. But anyway,

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S20: our medal count today is, um, second place with 27 medals.

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S20: Nine gold. Italy's right behind us with 26 medals, nine

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S20: gold and Norway is still smoking everyone with 34 medals

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S20: and 16 gold.

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S19: Oh, boy. Yeah.

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S3: And then the last couple days before this whole thing

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01:07:08,430 --> 01:07:12,510
S3: wraps on Sunday, I guess hockey. We have to look

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01:07:12,510 --> 01:07:15,070
S3: forward to a big hockey match up. Anything else in

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S3: these closing days?

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S20: Yeah, I was just watching men. Aerials. Finals. Um, you know,

1282
01:07:20,790 --> 01:07:24,430
S20: my new favorite event just ended. Also women's cross, which

1283
01:07:24,430 --> 01:07:27,070
S20: is considered a contact sport. You got to go look

1284
01:07:27,070 --> 01:07:31,430
S20: that up. And, um, and there's so much more today.

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01:07:31,790 --> 01:07:34,230
S20: But I do want to give a shout out to Janet,

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S20: a potential World Cup boom crew correspondent and Moody alumni

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S20: who's been feeding me content all day and night. Thank you, Janet,

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01:07:42,790 --> 01:07:46,310
S20: and the two most Olympic people in my life, my

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01:07:46,310 --> 01:07:49,710
S20: mom and my dad, who happens to be a new believer.

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01:07:50,030 --> 01:07:53,590
S20: But I hope you have Olympic caliber people in your

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S20: faith and your family and your life who help you

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,120
S20: be the best, most Christlike version of you. So until

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,040
S20: I answer the next call to report. Ciao.

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01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:09,040
S3: Thank you so much, Cathy. Gold medal for Cathy. Come on.

1295
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,840
S1: You have Olympic level people in your life.

1296
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,040
S2: Come on. Go get some.

1297
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:19,040
S3: If you don't. Hello? Man these updates. That was the final,

1298
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,919
S3: last and final call. And crew. Winter Olympic correspondent update

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S3: from Cathy. And we are so grateful.

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S2: That's sad.

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,040
S1: Yeah, it is kind of sad.

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01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,280
S2: That was a good, good little time we had.

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,439
S1: Take your vitamins, Cathy. We're going to need you for

1304
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:35,559
S1: years and years.

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,600
S3: Summer. Two years. Oh, yeah.

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01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:38,360
S2: Summer Olympics.

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01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,760
S3: I love that someone else was, like, helping behind the scenes.

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01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,200
S3: I know, like, she had her own personal producer. Yeah.

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,439
S1: Who's Janet out there dishing her the goods?

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01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,200
S3: Go, Janet. She had her own super di like. Like

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,599
S3: she does for us.

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S17: That was so great.

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01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:53,400
S3: That's amazing.

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S17: Thank you.