WEBVTT - Producing Fruit with Christ

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<v S1>Coming to you from the Morning Star Mission sponsored studio.

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<v S1>This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>The interesting thing about. About music is that it grabs

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<v S2>our soul. It really does. And it's going to take

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<v S2>you one way or another.

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<v S3>There's the catch.

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<v S2>That's the that's the deal, isn't it?

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<v S3>Absolutely. That's the bull's eye. You hit it.

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<v S2>The interesting thing about music, and this is why we

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<v S2>love interspersing, uh, especially songs that enthrall our minds with God,

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<v S2>is that it can capture us in a big way.

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<v S2>I mean, there's a whole hymnal in the scriptures.

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<v S4>The book of Psalms.

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<v S2>The Book of Psalms, which were sung. You know, I

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<v S2>was in Jerusalem on one of our visits there, and

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<v S2>I was with our guide, Omer Eshel, and we began

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<v S2>to open up the songs of ascent, and he and

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<v S2>I arm in arm with the Bible open, put music

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<v S2>to the song of ascent as we climb the steps

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<v S2>into Jerusalem.

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<v S4>Oh wow.

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<v S2>Isn't that.

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<v S4>Fun? Must have been an awesome experience.

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<v S2>Had me crying.

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<v S4>Oh boy. Had me crying about it.

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<v S2>Oh, isn't that something? So they can they they are

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<v S2>used mightily of the Lord to to capture something that's

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<v S2>just beautiful. You know, I had a thought early this morning,

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<v S2>and it is early, but early for us is earlier

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<v S2>than early. So. And you know, you're the boom crew.

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<v S2>Let me tell you what that means. It means that

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<v S2>we took this word boom. Because I had this crazy

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<v S2>habit of going boom when people would call in and

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<v S2>share testimonies. It's just an affirmation. It's even more than

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<v S2>a modern day Amen. It's just a yes. Let's go.

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<v S2>What a what a great thing you've just shared. And

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<v S2>we try to we try to boom you if it's

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<v S2>if it's crazy out of the blue nutso. We give

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<v S2>what's called a.

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<v S4>A boom.

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<v S2>A triple.

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<v S4>Boom. It's like a three exclamation point. Yes.

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<v S2>So it's and it all revolves around a few key things.

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<v S2>So let me give you an analogy from Commercial Fishing.

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<v S2>I used one of these yesterday. I spent eight seasons

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<v S2>commercial fishing in Alaska. And one of the things you

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<v S2>need to know if you're going the objective of commercial

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<v S2>fishing in Alaska. I was on a driftnet boat. It's

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<v S2>called a limited entry. There's only so many permits that

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<v S2>are given for Bristol Bay on the west coast of Alaska.

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<v S2>The waves are always pretty strong at times. There's times

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<v S2>there's just absolutely flat ocean, but those are rare days

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<v S2>and everybody's just like pumped up. But it's it's rocky.

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<v S2>It it can be a bit dangerous at times. But

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<v S2>if the objective is to get fish on the boat

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<v S2>and that is the objective as many red salmon or

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<v S2>sockeye salmon as we can, there's a couple key things

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<v S2>that you want to do. One is you want to

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<v S2>get the net down in the right place. Make sense?

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<v S4>Yeah. So to go where the fish are.

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<v S2>Gotta thank you. Ali. She's. Boy, she's a commercial.

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<v S4>Fisherman, yes I am.

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<v S2>You got to go where the fish are. And and

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<v S2>you want to make sure that you're caring for those

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<v S2>fish as you bring that net in. And what that

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<v S2>means for us in radio is very simple. There's a

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<v S2>couple key messages that are going to allow us to

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<v S2>do Christian radio. And I've got that in air quotes,

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<v S2>because Christian radio can be a lot of different things.

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<v S2>But there's a couple key things that we have observed

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<v S2>that God has put into our heart that are absolutely essential.

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<v S2>One is, if we're going to put our nets down,

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<v S2>we got to put our nets down in the waters

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<v S2>of clarity of the gospel. The gospel has been lost

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<v S2>for a lot of years here in the Western world.

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<v S2>Really lost. It's been dumbed down. What do I what

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<v S2>do I mean when I say that?

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<v S4>I mean, I think it's been when you think about

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<v S4>the gospel, the good news of Jesus Christ, it's been

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<v S4>reduced to church attendance, church membership, even, um, doing or

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<v S4>not doing certain things even. I mean, you think about

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<v S4>today's climate, even having a certain political position or affinity

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<v S4>or not.

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<v S2>Yeah. So it can be that and but generally speaking,

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<v S2>wouldn't you say people define themselves as Christians very culturally,

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<v S2>whatever those drivers are.

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<v S4>For all of the above reasons.

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<v S2>Yeah, for all of the above. And so you get

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<v S2>what is commonly called christers, right, which is Christmas and

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<v S2>Easter attenders. And by the way, I happen to be

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<v S2>of the mindset I have no knock on that. I'm like,

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<v S2>if they're coming twice a year. Let's go. Let's be

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<v S2>clear with the gospel. I'm not one that says let's

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<v S2>target them, but let's be clear when they're there. Yeah.

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<v S2>What's what's going on? And let's cast that net. So

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<v S2>there's a lack of clarity about what the gospel really is,

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<v S2>and then there's lack of clarity around what sanctification is

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<v S2>and how we get there. Fair enough guys.

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<v S5>Fair enough.

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<v S2>Those are two huge places that we try to lower

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<v S2>our nets around here. And what we've seen is an

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<v S2>incredible harvest. And it's humbling. And I want you to

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<v S2>know that I am convinced that God and this is

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<v S2>for you. God never elevates the messenger. He always elevates

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<v S2>the message, which is huge.

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<v S4>Because God can use anyone.

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<v S2>He proves it all the time with us.

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<v S4>Anyone? I mean, you think about a donkey spoke truth? Yes.

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<v S4>So true. It's all about the message.

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<v S2>And I mean, look at what Jesus said. Let the

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<v S2>little ones or the children come to me. And that

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<v S2>word for children is Nepos. It means one without words.

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<v S2>God is pleased to have someone come to him and

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<v S2>use them, when they all they have is open arms

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<v S2>and lifted hands, saying, I can't even form a word. God,

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<v S2>here I am. And he loves to use that. So

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<v S2>I want to clarify what that means coming up. And

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<v S2>then this half hour, we're going to ask a question

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<v S2>out of that. That's going to open up phone lines

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<v S2>today in a fun way. Sound good.

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<v S4>Friday. So that's what we do.

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<v S2>Yeah. And we're going to hear your freedom stories.

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<v S1>He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then

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<v S1>he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl

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<v S1>and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>So we want to be lowering our nets where the

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<v S2>fish are using a little commercial fishing metaphor from Alaska.

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<v S2>We had a spotter pilot back in the day, and

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<v S2>that was a 180 or a Super Cub that was

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<v S2>flying above the fishery that we were in, covering a

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<v S2>good amount of square miles. And at times they would say,

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<v S2>go south, go south. And I remember one afternoon the

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<v S2>sun baking down must have been 60 degrees out.

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<v S4>Ali sounds delightful. That's way too.

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<v S2>Cold. It was actually really warm that day for Alaska

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<v S2>temperatures in the summer. And they were like, go south,

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<v S2>go south, and we're on VHF radios. And and I'm

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<v S2>hearing the through the squawk box on the flying bridge

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<v S2>where my captain is and, and we're going south, and

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<v S2>I'm watching nets that have fish that are coming into them.

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<v S2>And I'm like, man, we got to throw it out, Marvin.

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<v S2>And then the spotter and he's saying, spotter pilots saying,

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<v S2>go south. And I'm like, ah, man, we're we're driving

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<v S2>right past paydays here. Well we went further south, further south,

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<v S2>further south. And then, then the pilot of the 180

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<v S2>who was flying up in the sky and we saw

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<v S2>him up there. He said, throw it out. There were

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<v S2>no boats around us and we threw it out. And

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<v S2>it's called smoke on the water. In the commercial fishing grounds,

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<v S2>we put out 300 yards of net, and as we

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<v S2>laid that net into the water, we have corks on

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<v S2>the surface of the water, but we would see that

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<v S2>cork line just surge with hundreds of salmon, hit it,

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<v S2>and then we would see splashes of tails and heads

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<v S2>up and down the whole thing. And we're just celebrating going,

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<v S2>look at this. And he said, I told you I'd

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<v S2>put you on him. I heard him in the squawk box.

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<v S2>Told you I'd put you on him. And what God

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<v S2>is doing here, even this week, is is putting us

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<v S2>on him. What is that? We want to go where

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<v S2>the fish are. There's a couple key messages that God

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<v S2>has called us to hear with Carl and crew, and

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<v S2>we're so grateful that you're along for the ride. But

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<v S2>one of them is we want to be super clear

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<v S2>with the gospel. Why I'm going to touch on this

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<v S2>quickly next week. We're going to unpack it totally. Matthew

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<v S2>seven Jesus spoke to the people and he said, many

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<v S2>will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, and

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<v S2>he's going to say, I never knew you. And these

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<v S2>are not people bellied up to a bar at happy hour.

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<v S2>I know we want to think in our minds, well,

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<v S2>those that God's going to say I never knew you.

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<v S2>It's like they've been far from him. No, the hallucination

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<v S2>of salvation is real. These are people who preached in

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<v S2>Jesus name and cast out demons in his name, and

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<v S2>did mighty works in his name, and that might make

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<v S2>you a little bit wiggy in your heart right now.

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<v S2>You could say, oh, Carl, my goodness, what's going to

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<v S2>what's happening here? If you are asking the question, how

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<v S2>can I know that? I know you can. And we're

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<v S2>going to we might even give a resource out today

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<v S2>so that people can know they stand with God, and

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<v S2>he stands with you, because that's very important to know. Yesterday,

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<v S2>in just a 35 minute span, we saw 117 people

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<v S2>surrender to Christ across the United States of America and Canada. Incredible, incredible.

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<v S2>And those are just the ones that that texted in

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<v S2>a link to get new, uh, new follower material that

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<v S2>have surrendered fully to Jesus. But that that that salvation

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<v S2>experience is the total surrender of oneself to the lordship

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<v S2>and leadership of Jesus Christ. So that's where we want

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<v S2>to lower our nets here constantly. The other one is

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<v S2>what happens after God harvests those. And and then we

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<v S2>work in partnership with God to say this big fancy

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<v S2>word here, sanctification, which just means growing up in Jesus Christ,

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<v S2>is all about a vision of what we've been hitting

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<v S2>this week. Bearing fruit 30, 60, 100 fold. The abundant

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<v S2>life that is promised in John 1010. I came to

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<v S2>give you life and life more abundant. It's found in

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<v S2>Psalm one one through three. Man, you walk away from fools, mockers,

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<v S2>and scoffers, but you hang out with the Word of

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<v S2>God and you meditate on it, and you're going to

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<v S2>be like a tree planted by streams of water. Your

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<v S2>leaf will never wither in. All you do will prosper.

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<v S2>The promise was to Joshua from God Himself. He said, listen,

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<v S2>you're going across the Jordan. Young man, listen to me.

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<v S2>Here's what you got to know. You camp out on

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<v S2>the Word of God. You meditate on it day and night,

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<v S2>and you will have success and prosperity in all that

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<v S2>you do. Our God is a God of abundance. And

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<v S2>so that's the blue sky vision. And here's the interesting thing.

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<v S2>Ali was in Romans six yesterday as we were praying

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<v S2>about how God would craft today and a huge epiphany

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<v S2>that we find everybody's bearing some kind of fruit. Right, Ali?

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<v S4>Absolutely. And you think about the questions that you start

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<v S4>to ask in life, whether it's a midlife crisis or

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<v S4>much earlier, you start to look at what's the fruit

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<v S4>of my life? Even if people don't use that language,

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<v S4>people take stock of what have I produced? What is

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<v S4>my life produced? And sometimes people have great grief over

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<v S4>looking at a life that has produced fruit that doesn't

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<v S4>benefit anyone.

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<v S2>Yeah, and that's okay. That's okay. Because here's what we

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<v S2>find as as we look at Galatians, you find a contrast.

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<v S2>You got fruit of the spirit, which is a result

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<v S2>of the abiding life in Christ. And then you've got

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<v S2>deeds of the flesh. Here's what we have in our life.

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<v S2>The question isn't will we have fruit? The question is,

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<v S2>what kind of fruit will we have?

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<v S4>Kind of fruit are we bearing?

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<v S2>Yeah. Now, God doesn't do that to freak us out.

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<v S2>He loves us so much, he's allowing us to look

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<v S2>at Galatians five and go, boy, what's coming out of

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<v S2>my life? Now here's the beauty. When you catch a

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<v S2>vision of what God wants to do in your life,

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<v S2>and you begin to cultivate this abiding life in Christ,

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<v S2>as we've been talking from John 15 all week, the

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<v S2>promise is that you will bear much fruit and glorify God.

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<v S2>And so we got a really cool question for you.

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<v S2>And we're going to open up phone lines. And I'm

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<v S2>asking you, as you are led by the Spirit of God,

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<v S2>just call in with your story.

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<v S4>You know, you experience a change of heart when you're

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<v S4>new in Christ, but you also experience a change of fruit,

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<v S4>the result, the consequences of how you're living. So we

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<v S4>want to know from you this morning on this Freedom Friday,

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<v S4>what was the biggest change of fruit that you noticed

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<v S4>when you experience new life in Christ. Maybe you went

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<v S4>from anxiety to peace. Maybe you went from lust to

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<v S4>all of a sudden you produce the fruit of self-control.

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<v S4>What was the biggest change of fruit you noticed in

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<v S4>yourself when you became new in Christ? 800 555 7898

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<v S4>855 57898.

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<v S2>We are ready, aren't we, guys?

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<v S3>Absolutely. Yeah. It's freedom Friday.

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<v S2>800 555 7898.

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<v S1>This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>All right, let's go right to the word of God.

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<v S2>Paint a picture here.

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<v S4>You know, when you look at Galatians five, you see

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<v S4>two different lists here. I want to read to you

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<v S4>starting with verse 16. But I say to you, walk

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<v S4>by the spirit, and you will not gratify the desires

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<v S4>of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are

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<v S4>against the spirit, and the desires of the spirit are

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<v S4>against the flesh. For these are opposed to each other

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<v S4>to keep you from doing the things you want to do.

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<v S4>But if you are led by the spirit, you are

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<v S4>not under the law. Then here it comes. Verse 19.

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<v S4>Now the works of the flesh are evident sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy,

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<v S4>fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and

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<v S4>things like these. I'll stop there. That's fruit.

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<v S2>Yeah.

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<v S4>That's the fruit of a life lived apart from God.

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<v S2>Yeah. And what's what's amazing about what Paul does here.

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<v S2>If you notice, he's got orgies in fits of anger

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<v S2>in the same list. Yes. And I think sometimes we

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<v S2>want to almost spiritualize or somehow dumb down some of

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<v S2>those things. But here's the power of this contrast. When

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<v S2>we are abiding in Christ, the Spirit of God is

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<v S2>filling us up and what comes out of our life

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<v S2>becomes this fruit that we can't take credit for.

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<v S4>No.

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<v S2>It's all God.

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<v S4>No. Then you jump down to verse 22. But the

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<v S4>fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.

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<v S4>Against such things there is no law. Your life is

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<v S4>producing fruit. It's just a question of what kind of

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<v S4>fruit are you producing?

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<v S2>So bang, that's the point. We're all producing some kind

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<v S2>of fruit. Yes. In fact, Jesus said this. You can

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<v S2>tell a tree by the fruit that it bears, which

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<v S2>means you can also tell what root system that tree has.

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<v S2>So as we get grounded and rooted in Jesus Christ,

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<v S2>and that's that's where we lower our nets around here

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<v S2>with Carl and crew helping us know that we are

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<v S2>truly born again. And then what that abiding, empowering life

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<v S2>looks like by God to bear fruit in keeping with

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<v S2>being disciples of Christ. Got a really cool question for

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<v S2>you this morning asking you to call in as the

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<v S2>Spirit of God leads. What was the biggest change of

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<v S2>fruit you noticed when you experienced new life in Christ?

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<v S2>Come on, break it down right now. Just one word

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<v S2>or a sentence or a paragraph of testimony. Call in

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<v S2>right now. What was the biggest change of fruit you

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<v S2>noticed when you experienced new life in Christ? 800 555 7898.

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<v S2>That's why we call you the Boom Crew. This is

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<v S2>your show. Call us right now. 800 555 7898 800

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<v S2>555 7898. What's the biggest change of fruit?

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<v S1>Your shot of hope to help you through the day.

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<v S1>This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>We are asking a question right now. That is Freedom Friday,

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<v S2>and Freedom Friday is an opportunity for you to stand

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<v S2>up and testify to the goodness and the power of

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<v S2>God in your life. All week long, we've been talking

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<v S2>about the beautiful promise of Jesus to His disciples and

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<v S2>to us. Today. I am the vine. You're the branch.

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<v S2>You abide in me. You will bear much fruit. Now

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<v S2>here's the aha moment. If you look at Romans six,

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<v S2>you will find out that we are all bearing fruit.

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<v S4>Yes, Romans 621 says, but what fruit were you getting

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<v S4>at that time from the things of which you are

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<v S4>now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.

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<v S4>But now that you have been set free from sin

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<v S4>and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get

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<v S4>leads to sanctification and its end eternal life. So there's

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<v S4>fruit everywhere you look at the fruit of your life.

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<v S4>What is your life producing when you are new in Christ?

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<v S4>What was the biggest change of fruit that you noticed?

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<v S4>800 555 7898.

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<v S2>Princess in Illinois. First time caller. What was that fruit

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<v S2>that changed when you were in Christ?

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<v S6>Hi. Good morning. My fruit is joy, peace, and that

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<v S6>peace that surpasses all understanding. You know, I'm dancing on

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<v S6>the grave that I once lived in. Well, yes. And

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<v S6>you know. So I am so grateful to God that

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<v S6>I am set free.

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<v S2>Isn't that amazing, Princess? Thank you for calling in Sister Boom.

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<v S2>This is why we call you the boom crew. Mark

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<v S2>in Florida. What do you say, man? Hello, Mark. We

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<v S2>got you. We're trying to get you loaded up. There

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<v S2>we go. Mark in Florida. What do you say?

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<v S7>Uh, when Christ came into my life, I started to

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<v S7>experience peace for the first time in a long time. Um,

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<v S7>and I just touch base with you guys for some reason.

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<v S7>This is like the third day I've listened to you

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<v S7>since y'all Joe went nationwide and it's awesome. Thank you.

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<v S2>Mark. Thank you. First time caller from Florida. Love you man.

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<v S2>Mark that that is what happens. That's the boom moment

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<v S2>when Christ takes over our soul. Maybe the one one

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<v S2>of the greatest evidences is peace. And that's the result

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<v S2>of of Jesus's promise. Come to me, all who are

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<v S2>weary and heavy laden, and I'll give you rest. And

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<v S2>it's like, oh my goodness, I've been looking for it

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<v S2>my whole life. And there it is, found in Jesus Christ.

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<v S2>It's amazing. Let's go back to the phone lines here, Marcia.

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<v S2>First time caller in Indiana. What do you say, Marcia?

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<v S8>Um. My temper.

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<v S4>Mhm.

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<v S8>It was, it was, um, when I, when I found Jesus,

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<v S8>I prayed, let me do whatever it takes to make

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<v S8>me like Jesus.

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<v S2>Ah, beautiful. You know, Marcia, here's the cool thing. One

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<v S2>of the fruits of the spirit is self-control. Has it

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<v S2>been awesome for you to witness God get that temper

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<v S2>under control? Marsha?

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<v S8>Yeah, he's under control for several years now.

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<v S2>That's beautiful sister.

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<v S3>That's awesome.

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<v S4>And you think about, like, how do you how do

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<v S4>you do that?

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<v S2>We don't.

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<v S4>We don't.

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<v S2>That's the see, this is this is the point bootstrapping

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<v S2>Christianity that says, okay, let's just say I've been born again.

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<v S2>I was at a point of absolute abandonment to the

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<v S2>Lordship of Jesus Christ. The great misnomer in Western Christianity

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<v S2>is then I got to get up and I got

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<v S2>to go. Please, God. Yes and no. Yes, we honor God,

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<v S2>but the way, the manner in which we do it

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<v S2>is by utter dependence. Still, the posture in which God

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<v S2>saves you is the same posture in which God will

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<v S2>grow you. I was at a men's conference a few

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<v S2>years ago, and I got on my knees and I said, gentlemen,

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<v S2>this is where you are born again. Full stop. Jesus

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<v S2>said it. Blessed are the poor in spirit. Theirs is

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<v S2>the kingdom of heaven. Spiritual bankruptcy, emptiness, dependence, full surrender

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<v S2>is where we are born again.

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<v S4>Yeah.

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<v S2>Full stop. Here's the irony. You ready for this? That's

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<v S2>how we grow in that posture of utter dependence on God.

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<v S2>There's no other way around it. It's a beautiful thing.

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<v S2>When we fully surrender to our Lord.

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<v S4>And we experience a change of heart, but also a

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<v S4>change of fruit. So we're asking you, what was the

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<v S4>biggest change of fruit you noticed when you experienced new

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<v S4>life in Christ? The results, the consequences of your life

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<v S4>were different. rent. Let's go back to the phones. Let's

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<v S4>go to Michael in Illinois. What was the change of

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<v S4>fruit that you noticed?

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<v S7>You know what?

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<v S9>My compassion kind of like, multiplied by tenfold. I started

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<v S9>looking at men as trees. Um. And I couldn't judge

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<v S9>anybody's situation. You know, it's like if it was not

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<v S9>for God's grace. There go I.

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<v S2>Yes.

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<v S9>And it just it just gives you a different perspective. Um,

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<v S9>as to, you know, why, where someone is in their

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<v S9>current state and how the compassion that you have to

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<v S9>have for that person because they just don't know God

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<v S9>like you do and they're on their way and you

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<v S9>need to participate and do something about it. But that's

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<v S9>that's probably the biggest change.

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<v S2>Michael. Boom, brother. That is spot on when you get

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<v S2>knocked over by the grace of God, that judgmental spirit,

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<v S2>that whole idea, when you're truly knocked over by grace,

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<v S2>you look around and you say, but for the grace

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<v S2>of God, there go I. Now you have a whole

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<v S2>new perspective on even caring for people around you. Boom!

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<v S2>This is why we call you the Boom Crew. Christ

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<v S2>is alive and well, and he's working in you. Coming up,

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<v S2>we've got a real treat for you. We got Chip

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<v S2>Ingram that's going to be coming in here talking about

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<v S2>what Joy really is and how to take hold of

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<v S2>it today on this Freedom Friday.

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<v S1>She was trying to earn her way to God, but

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<v S1>God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in

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<v S1>the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>It's Carl and crew. The beauty of the gospel is

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<v S2>that we can come as we are, overcome what seems

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<v S2>impossible and live as we never imagined. And it's all

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<v S2>about God. You know, happiness is an interesting thing, but

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<v S2>happiness is really linked to happenings. Things that are going

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<v S2>on around us, right?

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<v S4>Yes.

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<v S2>So happiness can be fickle. You can have a happy

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<v S2>moment at high noon, and by 3:00 things can be

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<v S2>going south.

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<v S3>So happy.

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<v S2>But the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, joy, joy, joy.

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<v S2>Chip Ingram going to unpack it for us coming up

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<v S2>here in three minutes.

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<v S1>You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't

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<v S1>take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.

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<v S1>It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>What a promise. What a vision. All you got to

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<v S2>do is look at John 15, and you see some

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<v S2>of the very final words of Jesus as he's making

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<v S2>his way to be the ultimate sacrifice for our sins.

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<v S2>And he tells his disciples, look, guys, it's to my

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<v S2>father's glory that you bear much fruit. And there's a

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<v S2>lot of ways to look at that fruit, but it's

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<v S2>a joy completed, according to Jesus himself in John 15,

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<v S2>that we would have this abiding relationship, close connection with

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<v S2>with Christ our Savior. And then the fruit of that,

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<v S2>all you got to do is go to Galatians five

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<v S2>and you see love and joy and multiple other attributes

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<v S2>of those that have this abiding relationship with Christ. We

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<v S2>got a man with us right now that knows and

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<v S2>wants for you to experience this in a big way. Chip. Joy.

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<v S2>I mean, come on. Talk about an attribute of being

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<v S2>filled with the power of God. That's got to be

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<v S2>one of the hallmarks, right?

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<v S10>Yeah, I think after love, I mean, all these are

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<v S10>an expression of the spirit working inside of our heart

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<v S10>as we're connected to Jesus by the power of the

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<v S10>Holy Spirit. But I love C.S. Lewis's quote that joy

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<v S10>is the serious business of heaven. It's really a byproduct

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<v S10>of that abiding that gives us incredible strength in the

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<v S10>midst of very challenging times.

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<v S4>Chip Ingram, our guest right now, pastor, author, teacher for

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<v S4>more than three decades. You know the title of this book,

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<v S4>I choose Joy. Many people would get behind that. I

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<v S4>spend some time on social media, and I often see

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<v S4>language around things like choosing joy, choosing happiness, choosing to

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<v S4>see your circumstances with a certain set of eyes. And

0:26:16.869 --> 0:26:19.590
<v S4>it's not all biblical. This is something I think most

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<v S4>people would embrace, even if they don't know what the

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<v S4>root is. But what do we miss in that messaging

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<v S4>of simply choosing to be joyful or choosing to be

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<v S4>happy in spite of sometimes what we're going through?

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<v S10>Well, I think the focus often there is that we

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<v S10>have this power and we can choose this and we

0:26:36.190 --> 0:26:38.949
<v S10>can choose that. And I think that part of the

0:26:38.990 --> 0:26:42.390
<v S10>choosing is important. We have a decision. But the fact

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<v S10>of the matter is, is that it is supernatural, abiding

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<v S10>presence of Jesus in us. The Apostle Paul is literally

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<v S10>waiting possible execution. And as you study Philippians chapter one,

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<v S10>he teaches us how to have God's perspective and to

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<v S10>be connected in the midst of the worst of circumstances.

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<v S10>And so it's something that God does. We participate. We choose.

0:27:06.700 --> 0:27:10.180
<v S10>We're not victims. But at the same time, that perspective

0:27:10.180 --> 0:27:14.780
<v S10>only comes when you see life circumstance and challenges through

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<v S10>the lens of an eternal perspective and what the spirit provides.

0:27:18.460 --> 0:27:21.020
<v S2>Now Chip Joy has some meat to it. It's got

0:27:21.020 --> 0:27:26.460
<v S2>some substance that actually sets itself apart from happiness. Help

0:27:26.500 --> 0:27:28.379
<v S2>us delineate between those two.

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<v S10>Well, happiness by and large. And by the way, I

0:27:31.660 --> 0:27:34.220
<v S10>think it's a wonderful thing to be happy. Sure, but

0:27:34.220 --> 0:27:38.700
<v S10>even the word it's based on happenings, good happenings, you're happy,

0:27:38.900 --> 0:27:44.380
<v S10>bad happenings or circumstances, you're not very happy. Joy supersedes that.

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<v S10>Joy in the midst of the most challenging times allows

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<v S10>us not necessarily always to be, oh, life is wonderful

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<v S10>and great and happy, but there's this sustaining presence of

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<v S10>God that gives you a perspective. As you look at

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<v S10>Philippians one, which is the the whole book is based

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<v S10>on that. You know, Paul's focus is upward on God

0:28:06.020 --> 0:28:10.020
<v S10>and outward on people while his circumstances are. I mean,

0:28:10.060 --> 0:28:13.620
<v S10>he's in prison. He's chained. It's that perspective that produces

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<v S10>the byproduct of joy.

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<v S4>Chip, was there something going on in your life that

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<v S4>prompted you to explore the topic of joy?

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<v S10>Yeah, it's, I guess, part embarrassing and part just real life.

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<v S10>The quick story is over a period of the last

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<v S10>7 or 8 years, I had excruciating back problems, multiple surgeries,

0:28:33.700 --> 0:28:37.140
<v S10>hardware in my back problems. After that, laying on my

0:28:37.140 --> 0:28:40.180
<v S10>side during Covid for 21 days could not get in

0:28:40.180 --> 0:28:44.100
<v S10>the hospital and being in pain all the time. Ice packs,

0:28:44.100 --> 0:28:48.260
<v S10>everything you can imagine almost 24 over seven. And you know,

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<v S10>it was a long journey and still have considerable pain,

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<v S10>but nothing like it used to be. And my wife,

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<v S10>one day I was doing one more rehab, learning to

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<v S10>walk again in the backyard and shuffling around. And I

0:29:00.660 --> 0:29:05.340
<v S10>sat down and she said, can I share something just honestly. Oh, yeah. Sure, honey.

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<v S10>Go ahead. And she goes, do you realize how negative

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<v S10>you've become?

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<v S2>Oh, boy. That hurts.

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<v S10>And I said, what? She said, honey, I love you.

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<v S10>But I married a positive, upbeat, future oriented, filled with

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<v S10>kind of faith. And these years, you've been through a lot.

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<v S10>I understand, but when you get up, you groan and

0:29:24.620 --> 0:29:27.580
<v S10>people ask a couple questions, and we're always talking about

0:29:27.580 --> 0:29:31.180
<v S10>your back. And, you know, there's this internal, you know,

0:29:31.220 --> 0:29:34.459
<v S10>publicly you're doing better. But around me, I see it

0:29:34.460 --> 0:29:37.980
<v S10>more than others. And I remember, of course, my first reaction,

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<v S10>because I'm so in tune with the Lord was no, no, no, no, no.

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<v S11>Oh, man.

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<v S10>And as those words were coming out of my mouth,

0:29:46.540 --> 0:29:49.620
<v S10>I was like, oh, you're so right. And I literally

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<v S10>it was probably three months later, I was to speak

0:29:51.940 --> 0:29:54.780
<v S10>at the Billy Graham Conference Center, and it was going

0:29:54.820 --> 0:29:58.140
<v S10>to teach on Philippians one. And as I studied through that,

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<v S10>what I recognized Was I needed to choose joy. And

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<v S10>this book is about going into training. This is not

0:30:05.210 --> 0:30:10.010
<v S10>thinking positive thoughts, declaring you'll be joyful, not looking at reality.

0:30:10.250 --> 0:30:13.490
<v S10>This is a journey and a process and a practice.

0:30:13.490 --> 0:30:15.970
<v S10>And I went into training that came out of that

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<v S10>passage to learn how to look at life through God's purpose,

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<v S10>God's focus, my ultimate hope, and readjust expectations. Where Jesus

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<v S10>met me by the power of the Holy Spirit to

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<v S10>allow me, despite the circumstances, to really experience joy. That's powerful,

0:30:34.090 --> 0:30:36.610
<v S10>and that is what it grew out of. And so

0:30:36.610 --> 0:30:39.050
<v S10>a lot of the very practical sides of it are

0:30:39.050 --> 0:30:41.410
<v S10>things that I've been doing for a number of years now.

0:30:41.410 --> 0:30:43.770
<v S10>I still have a card right in the front of

0:30:43.770 --> 0:30:48.490
<v S10>my desk that has a passage about rejoicing always. And

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<v S10>then be thankful. Be positive. Choose. Don't complain. And then

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<v S10>I have these four questions that flow out of that

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<v S10>passage that have transformed my thinking and therefore my life.

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<v S2>You know, Chip, I think your wife and my went to.

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<v S2>The Great Wife Clinic together on how to have tough

0:31:07.010 --> 0:31:08.850
<v S2>questions for their husbands.

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<v S4>You mentioned those four questions. Can you give us a

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<v S4>quick rundown on what they are?

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<v S10>Sure. The first one is where's your focus when our

0:31:15.610 --> 0:31:18.410
<v S10>focus is upward? You don't have to feel like it,

0:31:18.410 --> 0:31:21.050
<v S10>but you choose to worship an outward you. You care

0:31:21.050 --> 0:31:24.730
<v S10>and pray for other people. Versus your focus on yourself.

0:31:24.970 --> 0:31:28.530
<v S10>Things change when the question is, what's my purpose? What's

0:31:28.570 --> 0:31:32.530
<v S10>God's agenda in this challenging situation? Versus why me? This

0:31:32.530 --> 0:31:35.290
<v S10>isn't fair. I hate this, I can't believe God will

0:31:35.290 --> 0:31:38.290
<v S10>let this happen. And the third question is where's my hope?

0:31:38.450 --> 0:31:42.010
<v S10>Is it in circumstances? Is it in this person? Is it?

0:31:42.050 --> 0:31:44.050
<v S10>You know things are going to turn out right, is it?

0:31:44.090 --> 0:31:46.650
<v S10>My marriage is going to completely get better. Is it that,

0:31:46.690 --> 0:31:48.450
<v S10>you know, until God gives me a husband or a

0:31:48.530 --> 0:31:51.330
<v S10>wife or until my finances? We play a game where

0:31:51.330 --> 0:31:54.050
<v S10>we put our hope in places. And so when you ask,

0:31:54.050 --> 0:31:57.680
<v S10>where's my hope? And you realize the only anchor of

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:59.880
<v S10>your hope can be the person of Christ and what

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:02.560
<v S10>he's promised. And then the last question has probably the

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<v S10>most helpful is, what are my expectations toward the end

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.280
<v S10>of that passage in Philippians one, he says, while he's

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.200
<v S10>awaiting execution, he says to these Philippians, it has been granted.

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<v S10>The word is grace. It has been granted to you

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<v S10>not only to believe, but to suffer for his sake.

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:22.280
<v S10>And sometimes we get disillusioned because we're in difficult times.

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.120
<v S10>We think, God, I obey you, I love you, I'm

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.840
<v S10>following you. We unconsciously think if we do x, Y,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.920
<v S10>and Z that somehow God is obligated to make our

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:36.240
<v S10>life wonderful and no problems and healthy. And the fact

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<v S10>of the matter in a fallen world, part of the gift.

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<v S10>And this is hard for Americans to hear, especially part

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.560
<v S10>of the gift of God, is the gift to believe,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.520
<v S10>to be connected, to be forgiven, to have His Spirit

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.480
<v S10>taken up residence in us. And we go through suffering

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:55.520
<v S10>with us. That process in a fallen world is actually

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<v S10>one of the key elements that allow us to become

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.720
<v S10>more and more like Jesus. It creates a dependency that

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.880
<v S10>can't happen any other way. He allows it to happen.

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:08.920
<v S10>God isn't angry. He's not punishing people. But suffering is

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.200
<v S10>a part of the journey. And if you expect it

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.040
<v S10>to be great all the time because you've done X, Y,

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.360
<v S10>and Z your expectations, you set yourself up to be

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.800
<v S10>very disillusioned with God, with life, and with other people.

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<v S2>Yeah, and that's a performance metric rather than a proximity

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.840
<v S2>to Jesus metric. And it always fails us. On that note,

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:31.400
<v S2>we've been talking all week about the abiding life. I

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.200
<v S2>have this new conviction, having been a pastor and a

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.840
<v S2>leader for a lot of years. And sometimes I look

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.480
<v S2>back and go, Carl, why didn't you learn this stuff sooner?

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.840
<v S2>But the Lord's been gracious to me, and I feel

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:47.719
<v S2>like the church has put before people a bit of

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:51.400
<v S2>a hamster wheel of performance, and they're all good things.

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.470
<v S2>So it's. Read your Bible and pray and and give

0:33:54.470 --> 0:33:56.510
<v S2>and find your gifts and use them. And those are

0:33:56.510 --> 0:34:00.790
<v S2>all great. But I feel like we've neglected those abiding

0:34:00.790 --> 0:34:06.910
<v S2>disciplines of silence, solitude, aloneness with God, uh, where we

0:34:06.910 --> 0:34:09.950
<v S2>can cry out, search me, know me, try me in

0:34:09.950 --> 0:34:13.030
<v S2>the darkness of the morning. And I've been doing this

0:34:13.030 --> 0:34:19.470
<v S2>for goodness sakes, probably six months now, really regularly. And

0:34:19.510 --> 0:34:25.630
<v S2>I'm finding that that's the fuel for this fruit producing life.

0:34:25.670 --> 0:34:29.350
<v S2>It's it's him. It's his presence. It's not even activity.

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<v S2>Speak to that chip.

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<v S10>Well, I would have to say that I agree with you. And, um,

0:34:34.430 --> 0:34:37.750
<v S10>I think we have a transactional perspective. I'm going to

0:34:37.750 --> 0:34:42.109
<v S10>do these things. So. So that it's the so that

0:34:42.110 --> 0:34:44.670
<v S10>that kills us so that my life will be better,

0:34:44.670 --> 0:34:46.750
<v S10>my work will be better, my kids will turn out right,

0:34:46.750 --> 0:34:49.510
<v S10>my finances will go up, my marriage if I have one.

0:34:49.670 --> 0:34:52.990
<v S10>And so that is what kills us, because God refuses

0:34:53.230 --> 0:34:55.549
<v S10>to be a means to an end. And we don't

0:34:55.550 --> 0:34:57.149
<v S10>have to wait till we get to heaven to be

0:34:57.150 --> 0:35:00.469
<v S10>with him. The same spirit that raised Jesus from the

0:35:00.469 --> 0:35:04.589
<v S10>dead dwells in us, and its intimacy with him that

0:35:04.590 --> 0:35:09.150
<v S10>sustains you. It's intimacy that brings joy. And it's not.

0:35:09.310 --> 0:35:13.230
<v S10>I've read my two chapters. I've prayed through these three things. Okay, God,

0:35:13.230 --> 0:35:16.990
<v S10>here we go now. Make my life work. Yeah. It's

0:35:16.989 --> 0:35:20.750
<v S10>the byproduct. The blessings. Every good and perfect gift, in fact,

0:35:20.750 --> 0:35:24.190
<v S10>comes from him. But when the gifts get more important

0:35:24.190 --> 0:35:27.550
<v S10>than the giver, that's where we get in trouble. You know,

0:35:27.590 --> 0:35:29.549
<v S10>I've done a lot of counseling in my many, many

0:35:29.550 --> 0:35:31.910
<v S10>years as a pastor, and people come with all kinds

0:35:31.910 --> 0:35:34.629
<v S10>of problems and struggles, and I try to listen and

0:35:34.630 --> 0:35:37.590
<v S10>lean in and ask questions and be very, very concerned.

0:35:37.590 --> 0:35:39.950
<v S10>But I always get around to tell me a little

0:35:39.989 --> 0:35:42.870
<v S10>bit about your own private worship. Tell me about your

0:35:42.870 --> 0:35:47.029
<v S10>time Unhurriedly in God's Word and hearing from God and

0:35:47.030 --> 0:35:50.060
<v S10>being connected to him. And how do you practice his

0:35:50.060 --> 0:35:53.379
<v S10>presence throughout the day? And the correlation I've seen after

0:35:53.380 --> 0:35:58.620
<v S10>these many decades, Carl, is this little time with God really,

0:35:58.620 --> 0:36:02.660
<v S10>really big problems? I mean, the average follower of Jesus

0:36:02.660 --> 0:36:06.340
<v S10>doesn't spend any time with Jesus. And as a result

0:36:06.340 --> 0:36:09.380
<v S10>of that, they can't figure out why all the promises

0:36:09.380 --> 0:36:11.900
<v S10>of Jesus they're not experiencing in their life.

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<v S2>And joy is there.

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<v S4>If you want more from our guest, Chip Ingram. He's

0:36:15.700 --> 0:36:19.620
<v S4>a pastor, author, teacher, teaching pastor for living on the edge.

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<v S4>Just text the word joy to (800) 555-7898. Text joy to

0:36:25.620 --> 0:36:30.620
<v S4>800 555 7898. You'll get to his website. You can

0:36:30.620 --> 0:36:32.739
<v S4>see where to get the book. How to get a

0:36:32.739 --> 0:36:37.620
<v S4>free download. Text joy to 800 555 7898.

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<v S1>This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>Well, let me give you a metaphor from commercial fishing

0:36:46.020 --> 0:36:48.740
<v S2>that'll fit with why in the world we lower our nets.

0:36:48.780 --> 0:36:52.780
<v S2>Where we do here we're called to be fishers of men, right? Yes.

0:36:52.820 --> 0:36:56.700
<v S2>And by the way, fishing for men is not a

0:36:56.700 --> 0:37:02.219
<v S2>conversion discipline alone. It's not like getting people converted. Really?

0:37:02.219 --> 0:37:05.660
<v S2>Fishers of men is getting people on this path, which

0:37:05.700 --> 0:37:09.700
<v S2>includes regeneration, salvation of soul. But then growing up in

0:37:09.700 --> 0:37:14.899
<v S2>this relationship with God is. That's when the work begins.

0:37:15.180 --> 0:37:17.419
<v S2>I mean, talk to any pastor out there, they will

0:37:17.420 --> 0:37:20.580
<v S2>tell you. Yeah, it's easier to gather a crowd than

0:37:20.580 --> 0:37:24.219
<v S2>it is to make disciples. Disciple making is hard work.

0:37:24.820 --> 0:37:27.819
<v S2>But if, uh, let me take you to Alaska. Let's

0:37:27.820 --> 0:37:30.860
<v S2>go north. Come on. The rush is on. Here we go. Um,

0:37:31.060 --> 0:37:34.700
<v S2>so eight seasons I commercial fished in Bristol Bay, Alaska.

0:37:34.700 --> 0:37:36.340
<v S2>It's on the west coast of Alaska. It's on the

0:37:36.380 --> 0:37:40.700
<v S2>Bering Sea. 32 foot boats were the largest vessels that

0:37:40.700 --> 0:37:43.299
<v S2>you could have. I'm sitting here thinking about this now,

0:37:43.340 --> 0:37:45.529
<v S2>many years later, going now, why did they limit it

0:37:45.530 --> 0:37:48.850
<v S2>to 32ft? I don't know. Those are small boats for

0:37:48.850 --> 0:37:52.810
<v S2>some rough water, I'll tell you that. And I've known

0:37:52.810 --> 0:37:56.570
<v S2>people that we lost in Bristol Bay. It's a dangerous.

0:37:56.610 --> 0:37:59.890
<v S2>It's a dangerous fishery. There was one young man that

0:37:59.890 --> 0:38:03.090
<v S2>was fishing in the Dillingham district. I had met him

0:38:03.090 --> 0:38:05.410
<v S2>in King Salmon, Alaska. He was a young guy. We

0:38:05.450 --> 0:38:07.489
<v S2>were all in our 20s back, way back in the

0:38:07.489 --> 0:38:11.290
<v S2>day when I started, I was 19. Commercial fishing in Alaska.

0:38:12.010 --> 0:38:16.009
<v S2>And he was a great kid, but he was on

0:38:16.010 --> 0:38:18.250
<v S2>the bow of a boat throwing out an anchor. And

0:38:18.450 --> 0:38:20.210
<v S2>one of the things you got to do is stay

0:38:20.210 --> 0:38:24.970
<v S2>away from the lines. Stay away from the lines. And

0:38:24.969 --> 0:38:28.169
<v S2>he got his foot into a half hitch. And that

0:38:28.170 --> 0:38:31.930
<v S2>means that the the line is wrapped around your leg.

0:38:32.650 --> 0:38:36.410
<v S2>And that anchor took him overboard. And we found him

0:38:36.410 --> 0:38:40.050
<v S2>three days later. Washed up on a beach. Life comes

0:38:40.050 --> 0:38:43.089
<v S2>at you fast in Bristol Bay. A he can. It's

0:38:43.090 --> 0:38:48.370
<v S2>a very dangerous fishery, but there's great lessons that come

0:38:48.370 --> 0:38:51.330
<v S2>out of tough stuff. Have you ever noticed that the

0:38:51.330 --> 0:38:55.410
<v S2>best illustrations of life come out of tough stuff? Yeah.

0:38:55.450 --> 0:38:59.090
<v S2>And one of the things that we learned commercial fishing

0:38:59.090 --> 0:39:03.290
<v S2>in Bristol Bay. Number one, job one, get on the fish.

0:39:03.410 --> 0:39:04.930
<v S2>You don't want to set a net out in the

0:39:04.930 --> 0:39:07.730
<v S2>open ocean where there's no fish. And the other one

0:39:07.730 --> 0:39:09.810
<v S2>is when you get them on board, care for them

0:39:10.450 --> 0:39:12.450
<v S2>because there's nothing like. In fact, Ali and I were

0:39:12.450 --> 0:39:17.650
<v S2>just talking here about wild caught Alaskan salmon. There's nothing

0:39:17.650 --> 0:39:21.370
<v S2>like wild caught Alaskan salmon. But not all of them

0:39:21.370 --> 0:39:25.490
<v S2>are cared for in the way that you might really

0:39:25.489 --> 0:39:29.130
<v S2>make it palatable for, for you on your dinner table.

0:39:30.810 --> 0:39:33.050
<v S2>And that kind of drives what we do around here.

0:39:33.050 --> 0:39:36.850
<v S2>We want to get on the fish, so to speak,

0:39:36.850 --> 0:39:39.129
<v S2>because we're called to be fishers of men, and we

0:39:39.130 --> 0:39:42.839
<v S2>want to care for those rather than just be reckless

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:46.000
<v S2>with them when they come on board. And here's the

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:50.360
<v S2>beautiful thing about it. This is all God's work. He's

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.919
<v S2>the one that reels him in. He's the one that

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:56.359
<v S2>casts the net. We're just partnered with him in his

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.799
<v S2>greater ministry. And then we are charged with here in

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:04.320
<v S2>the morning show to help you not only be found

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:08.400
<v S2>in Christ, but then cared for as we grow and grow,

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.239
<v S2>and as we've been talking about this week, really bear

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.760
<v S2>fruit in Christ. One time we were on the west

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:17.440
<v S2>coast of Alaska. We were in the Ugashik district, so

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.880
<v S2>it was way south and east. And so we're out

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.840
<v S2>in high seas. We got big old sea swells, big

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:27.600
<v S2>rolling sea swells that come in from Russia, and these

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.759
<v S2>sea swells are just humongous. And then sometimes you'll get

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.879
<v S2>breakers in those sea swells. But we had our eyes

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:36.879
<v S2>focused on one thing. Let's get on the fish. Let's

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.360
<v S2>not worry about the weather. Let's get to those fish.

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.960
<v S2>And we had a 180, which is a small little

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:50.200
<v S2>plane that was had a spotter on board. So that spotter,

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.879
<v S2>it's an amazing thing because the vantage point and I've

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.960
<v S2>flown over those districts and seen fish from above, there's

0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:01.399
<v S2>things that you can see from a thousand 2000ft that

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:04.680
<v S2>you can't see at water level. Boy, there's another analogy

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:05.640
<v S2>for life, isn't it?

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.440
<v S4>Our perspective is pretty limited, in fact.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.239
<v S2>So I'm going to throw this in for free. This

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:14.000
<v S2>is why we talk with God every morning, because he

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.680
<v S2>is our ultimate spotter pilot. He can tell us, go south,

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.880
<v S2>go north, throw the net out. And this is what

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.359
<v S2>I want you to do here. God can do that

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.439
<v S2>for us. So the spotter pilot had us going south, south, south.

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.440
<v S2>And he's like, go south. And I'm hearing him on

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.000
<v S2>the squawk box. So we got this kind of open air.

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.319
<v S2>It's called a flying bridge where the captain is and

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.710
<v S2>he's up in the wheelhouse and there's there's sea waves

0:41:36.710 --> 0:41:38.989
<v S2>coming over that bow, but he's in his rain gear

0:41:38.989 --> 0:41:41.790
<v S2>and so he's taking whitewater over the front. Isn't that great?

0:41:42.150 --> 0:41:43.270
<v S11>It's like a movie.

0:41:43.790 --> 0:41:44.910
<v S3>I'm in an adventure.

0:41:44.950 --> 0:41:47.710
<v S2>It is. It's called Deadliest Catch, and I used to

0:41:47.750 --> 0:41:51.670
<v S2>deliver fish to all those boats that are in Deadliest Catch.

0:41:51.710 --> 0:41:55.310
<v S2>I've been on board almost all of them. Not the

0:41:55.310 --> 0:41:57.830
<v S2>newer ones, but I've been on the high spirits and

0:41:57.830 --> 0:42:00.550
<v S2>all those. I've been cool. I've been in the kitchen

0:42:00.550 --> 0:42:03.390
<v S2>and in the galley, having coffee with the captains. Isn't

0:42:03.390 --> 0:42:03.910
<v S2>that wild?

0:42:04.110 --> 0:42:04.509
<v S11>I love it.

0:42:04.550 --> 0:42:07.430
<v S2>So we would deliver fish to them, though, in these

0:42:07.510 --> 0:42:11.669
<v S2>off seasons for crab fishing. And it's just an amazing thing.

0:42:11.710 --> 0:42:13.629
<v S2>A lot of whitewater, a lot of rough water. So

0:42:13.630 --> 0:42:17.670
<v S2>he's yelling at us on the VHF radio, very high frequency.

0:42:18.590 --> 0:42:22.150
<v S2>And he's saying, go further south, and we're going past

0:42:22.150 --> 0:42:25.350
<v S2>boats that have their nets out 300 yards a gear,

0:42:25.550 --> 0:42:27.989
<v S2>and there's little plunk in and you can see fish

0:42:27.989 --> 0:42:32.070
<v S2>when they hit that net. And I'm like, Marvin we're

0:42:32.070 --> 0:42:35.589
<v S2>we're on we're on them. Shouldn't we throw it out?

0:42:35.630 --> 0:42:38.950
<v S2>And he said, he's telling me, keep going south and

0:42:38.950 --> 0:42:41.469
<v S2>we're yelling over the waves. I mean, yeah, we're. Are

0:42:41.469 --> 0:42:41.830
<v S2>you there.

0:42:41.830 --> 0:42:43.830
<v S11>With me, guys? I'm on the boat. We're there.

0:42:44.270 --> 0:42:47.350
<v S2>And finally we go south. And now we're going further south.

0:42:47.350 --> 0:42:50.510
<v S2>Now we're away from any boats. And he says, throw

0:42:50.510 --> 0:42:53.230
<v S2>it out and we get this buoy. At the end

0:42:53.230 --> 0:42:55.950
<v S2>of the gear, big orange buoy. And I throw that

0:42:55.950 --> 0:42:59.390
<v S2>thing out over the stern roller, and then out comes

0:42:59.390 --> 0:43:02.230
<v S2>300 yards of gear, one cork at a time. And

0:43:02.230 --> 0:43:05.390
<v S2>the cork sit on the surface of the water. And

0:43:05.390 --> 0:43:09.350
<v S2>I mean, immediately we got about one fathom of gear

0:43:09.390 --> 0:43:12.350
<v S2>out and we call it smoke on the water. The

0:43:12.350 --> 0:43:17.030
<v S2>fish started pouring in. We couldn't see it, but that

0:43:17.030 --> 0:43:20.470
<v S2>spotter pilot put us right over the sweet spot of

0:43:20.670 --> 0:43:23.989
<v S2>thousands of salmon that haul that day. We brought in

0:43:23.989 --> 0:43:26.590
<v S2>in one set £10,000 of fish.

0:43:27.270 --> 0:43:27.670
<v S3>Wow.

0:43:27.790 --> 0:43:28.229
<v S5>I like.

0:43:28.230 --> 0:43:29.230
<v S3>That you thought.

0:43:29.230 --> 0:43:32.069
<v S5>You saw it before you saw it. You were like, hey,

0:43:32.070 --> 0:43:35.500
<v S5>there's something over here. But the guy who saw the

0:43:35.500 --> 0:43:40.340
<v S5>whole picture was like, just wait. Something better is coming. Yeah.

0:43:40.420 --> 0:43:41.339
<v S5>Stay impatient.

0:43:41.380 --> 0:43:46.780
<v S2>We were just going by faith. Yeah. Which great metaphors here, right, guys?

0:43:47.020 --> 0:43:47.860
<v S3>He's got it coming.

0:43:47.900 --> 0:43:50.380
<v S2>I mean, God often says to us, go further south.

0:43:50.420 --> 0:43:52.859
<v S2>Go further south, a little further, a little further. And

0:43:52.860 --> 0:43:55.740
<v S2>then God will say, slap it out, slap it out.

0:43:56.219 --> 0:43:58.940
<v S2>So what we do here with Carl and crew is

0:43:58.980 --> 0:44:02.180
<v S2>we're trying to get over. We're trying to get over

0:44:02.180 --> 0:44:05.740
<v S2>the sweet spot of where God would have us. And

0:44:05.739 --> 0:44:08.060
<v S2>so one of the two things that drives us here

0:44:08.060 --> 0:44:10.500
<v S2>is we want to be able to give a clear

0:44:10.540 --> 0:44:14.580
<v S2>gospel message so that we can make sure that we're

0:44:14.580 --> 0:44:17.700
<v S2>doing everything to honor God, to be fishers of men.

0:44:19.620 --> 0:44:22.860
<v S2>We believe that. So next week, we're going to be

0:44:22.860 --> 0:44:28.259
<v S2>unpacking this incredible hallucination of salvation and and setting you

0:44:28.260 --> 0:44:31.100
<v S2>free from fear of do I know? How do I know?

0:44:31.100 --> 0:44:32.980
<v S2>I stand with God and He stands with me. And

0:44:32.980 --> 0:44:34.500
<v S2>those are great questions, right?

0:44:34.500 --> 0:44:34.820
<v S3>Yes.

0:44:34.860 --> 0:44:37.819
<v S2>I mean, everyone is going to face those questions, even

0:44:37.820 --> 0:44:41.420
<v S2>those of you that are born again. The other thing, though,

0:44:41.460 --> 0:44:45.620
<v S2>is this whole dynamic of how in the world did

0:44:45.620 --> 0:44:48.660
<v S2>we grow in Christ when God catches us, by the way,

0:44:48.660 --> 0:44:51.420
<v S2>we don't catch God. Let's get the metaphor right here.

0:44:51.620 --> 0:44:54.660
<v S2>God grabs us and he calls us out of darkness.

0:44:54.660 --> 0:44:56.180
<v S2>He did that for me. He took a kid with

0:44:56.180 --> 0:45:00.100
<v S2>a raging cocaine addiction and in his young 20s, raised

0:45:00.100 --> 0:45:04.020
<v S2>in church. Pretty good kid. Lost my mind. Type A

0:45:04.060 --> 0:45:07.700
<v S2>personality working in the oil fields of Alaska. Got a

0:45:07.700 --> 0:45:10.540
<v S2>raging cocaine addiction and I was so far from God

0:45:10.540 --> 0:45:13.540
<v S2>in my life. Was just a mess. And God said,

0:45:13.540 --> 0:45:15.419
<v S2>are you done yet? And on that day he saved

0:45:15.420 --> 0:45:18.660
<v S2>my soul. But here's what's awesome he not only saved

0:45:18.660 --> 0:45:22.379
<v S2>my soul, he put me on this path, guys, and

0:45:22.380 --> 0:45:25.739
<v S2>it's like he brought me on board his boat. But

0:45:25.739 --> 0:45:30.969
<v S2>then he's caring for me and he's he's nurturing me

0:45:30.969 --> 0:45:33.609
<v S2>and helping me grow. And and by the way, he's

0:45:33.610 --> 0:45:36.570
<v S2>not condemning me. So I hit my lips about three

0:45:36.570 --> 0:45:40.210
<v S2>weeks after I was born again and got my Tookie

0:45:40.210 --> 0:45:43.130
<v S2>and a swisher. Big time. And I'll share with you

0:45:43.170 --> 0:45:46.689
<v S2>next week that story, because that was a disaster. It

0:45:46.690 --> 0:45:50.490
<v S2>even caused me to question. Did did God save me?

0:45:50.969 --> 0:45:52.810
<v S2>And there's a lot of you that have that that

0:45:52.850 --> 0:45:55.170
<v S2>have had that experience where you're you're called out of

0:45:55.170 --> 0:45:57.330
<v S2>darkness into the light, you're truly born again. And then

0:45:57.330 --> 0:46:01.930
<v S2>you're like, ah, I just did something so dumb. God

0:46:01.930 --> 0:46:05.690
<v S2>must be fed up. God loves you and he's patient

0:46:05.730 --> 0:46:13.450
<v S2>and he's forbearing. Then he gives us a vision. And

0:46:13.450 --> 0:46:15.049
<v S2>this is the second part of what we want to

0:46:15.050 --> 0:46:17.730
<v S2>do around here is be these nurturers of you that

0:46:17.730 --> 0:46:20.690
<v S2>have been caught by the grace of God and brought

0:46:20.690 --> 0:46:23.810
<v S2>on board into the kingdom of God and help you

0:46:23.810 --> 0:46:26.210
<v S2>grow and go, and God with God. And this is

0:46:26.210 --> 0:46:30.049
<v S2>why we've been talking about bearing fruit this week. This

0:46:30.050 --> 0:46:33.770
<v S2>is why we've been talking about this. Because John 15

0:46:33.810 --> 0:46:37.890
<v S2>is clear. And I'm sorry. Sometimes I come uncorked. And

0:46:37.890 --> 0:46:40.410
<v S2>some of you may be new. Listening to us here

0:46:40.410 --> 0:46:44.530
<v S2>might think, is this guy for real? I'm. My joy

0:46:44.530 --> 0:46:48.050
<v S2>in the Lord. Started many years ago. But man, it's

0:46:48.050 --> 0:46:51.570
<v S2>built with passion over the years and I'm more sold

0:46:51.570 --> 0:46:55.370
<v S2>out to this thing called the sanctification process than ever before.

0:46:55.370 --> 0:46:58.090
<v S2>And it's a big fancy word for growing up in Jesus.

0:46:58.090 --> 0:47:01.970
<v S2>But what a promise. When Jesus looked at his disciples

0:47:01.969 --> 0:47:06.850
<v S2>and said, guys, you've been brought on board. You're my kids. You.

0:47:06.890 --> 0:47:10.370
<v S2>I caught you, by my grace. Now I want to

0:47:10.370 --> 0:47:12.650
<v S2>grow you. And that's when he looked at those grapes

0:47:12.650 --> 0:47:13.370
<v S2>and he says.

0:47:13.370 --> 0:47:16.850
<v S12>That's what I want you to have. It's to my

0:47:16.850 --> 0:47:22.530
<v S12>father's glory that you bear much fruit. Now, here's the kicker.

0:47:22.530 --> 0:47:23.330
<v S12>With that.

0:47:23.330 --> 0:47:25.720
<v S2>We've been exploring all week what it is to abide

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.920
<v S2>in Christ. Because we've we all know the pain of

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:32.040
<v S2>trying to produce fruit in our own power. Take it away, Ali.

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:33.120
<v S2>How painful is that?

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.480
<v S4>It is. I mean, when you're trying to do good.

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:37.880
<v S3>Things for God.

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:39.440
<v S2>How painful.

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:40.120
<v S4>Painful.

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:42.600
<v S2>And we know what it is to go. I can

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:44.560
<v S2>do it, I got this. And we know what it is.

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:46.680
<v S2>That in the 11th hour, God comes in and he

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:48.960
<v S2>can do more than we did in the prior ten.

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:52.560
<v S2>But here's what we're going to talk about on this

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:55.040
<v S2>Freedom Friday, because some of you have stories and they

0:47:55.040 --> 0:48:00.319
<v S2>are mighty stories. We want to talk about measuring the

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:04.680
<v S2>fruit that you now have in Christ. It's been a

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:07.560
<v S2>change of fruit. Now, Ali was talking with me yesterday

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.960
<v S2>and she had a great insight came out of Romans six.

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:10.480
<v S2>Take it away.

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.520
<v S4>Yeah. Romans six, starting with verse 20. It says, for

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.560
<v S4>when you were slaves of sin, you were free in

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.799
<v S4>regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.840
<v S4>that time from the things of which you are now ashamed?

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.919
<v S4>For the end of those things is death. But now

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:27.000
<v S4>that you have been set free from sin and have

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:30.040
<v S4>become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:35.200
<v S4>sanctification and its end eternal life. Our life is bearing fruit.

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:36.400
<v S4>It's producing.

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:36.840
<v S3>Something.

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:37.919
<v S2>Every everyone.

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:41.640
<v S4>Everyone's life is producing something. And sometimes people get it.

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.520
<v S4>Takes stock of it and go, what? What am I producing?

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:44.960
<v S3>Yeah.

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:49.760
<v S4>Anger. Am I producing fits of rage? Am I producing jealousy? Envy?

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.839
<v S4>You see a whole list in Galatians five. So we're

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:55.600
<v S4>asking you, when you experienced a change of heart, you

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.640
<v S4>were new in Christ. What was the biggest change of

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:03.040
<v S4>fruit that you noticed? You went from a change of

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:09.600
<v S4>heart to then a change of fruit. Tell us about it. 800, 555, 78, 98.

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:11.719
<v S4>We'll illustrate it with our own stories coming up, but

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.840
<v S4>we want to hear from you on this Freedom Friday.

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:17.359
<v S4>Biggest change of fruit you experienced when you experienced new

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:21.510
<v S4>life in Christ. 800 555 Five, 7898.

0:49:22.110 --> 0:49:26.630
<v S1>A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is

0:49:26.630 --> 0:49:30.270
<v S1>in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S12>It's a beautiful.

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<v S2>Thing when you can stop for a moment to look

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<v S2>at the fruit born in your life, and then you say, all,

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<v S2>glory to God. I didn't do this. This is God

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<v S2>at work in me. We're asking you a simple question

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<v S2>today on this Freedom Friday, what's the biggest change of

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<v S2>fruit you've noticed as you've experienced new life in Christ? Christina.

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<v S2>Right here in Illinois. What do you say? Christina.

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<v S13>Hey, Carl. I'm glad to speak with you guys. I

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<v S13>would say the biggest change I've noticed so far is

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<v S13>just the peace of knowing that I don't have to

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<v S13>respond in a back and forth, argumentative way to people

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<v S13>who bring offenses or criticisms to me, and just instead

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<v S13>let God handle it because he says vengeance is his.

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<v S13>And instead I just pray for that person because we

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<v S13>don't know what kind of hurts they're experiencing to cause

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<v S13>them to be that way. because I used to argue

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<v S13>with them all the time and now I just pray

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<v S13>for them.

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<v S2>Christina. That is power, sister. That's why we call you

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<v S2>the Boom crew. When you get released from that kind

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<v S2>of slavery, when you feel like I've got to get

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<v S2>my point across, I got to get them around the corner.

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<v S2>When you can say, no, this is God. He's going

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<v S2>to handle it. I'm going to let him fight my battles.

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<v S12>That's fruit.

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<v S4>That's a change of fruit. Thank you. Christina. You proved it.

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<v S4>Let's go back to the phones. Elena calling in from Illinois.

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<v S4>What was the biggest change of fruit you noticed when

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<v S4>you had a change of heart?

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<v S14>Forgiveness. I was in a 30 year abusive relationship, and

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<v S14>I was able to forgive. I was set free.

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<v S2>It's a big deal. And I want to bring some.

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<v S2>That's powerhouse, Elena, and we need that. And I just

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<v S2>want to say, boom, sister, you're in the boom crew.

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<v S2>Some perspective on this one that I want to give

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<v S2>to make sure that we're on with this one. This

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<v S2>is we got to be accurate here. Forgiveness does not

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<v S2>mean forgetting, and forgiveness does not mean that you are

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<v S2>somehow reintroducing a person who betrayed you, hurt you, injured

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<v S2>you back into your life. That's a twisted form of forgiveness.

0:51:40.700 --> 0:51:44.300
<v S2>But a healthy forgiveness is allowing yourself to be off

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<v S2>the hook of that person and dragging that offense around.

0:51:48.500 --> 0:51:53.259
<v S2>And candidly, a spirit of forgiveness, although full forgiveness really

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<v S2>would would benefit from an admission, a desire to make

0:51:57.860 --> 0:52:00.540
<v S2>right what was wrong, a confession of that sin so

0:52:00.540 --> 0:52:03.779
<v S2>that you can grant them that forgiveness is very transactional,

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<v S2>that freedom that you find by saying, I'm not going

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<v S2>to I'm not going to drag this dead carcass around anymore.

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<v S2>That's liberty. That is liberty. Why is this so important, ally?

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<v S4>You know, because when you think about what your life

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<v S4>is producing, it is producing fruit. And I think it's

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<v S4>good to take stock in a healthy way of what

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<v S4>am I producing? And I think people get to a

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<v S4>point in their life where they kind of grapple with that.

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<v S4>This is why people go through midlife crisis is because

0:52:32.700 --> 0:52:35.140
<v S4>they look back on their life and they don't see

0:52:35.140 --> 0:52:38.060
<v S4>the kind of fruit they were hoping for. They don't

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<v S4>see the kind of legacy building, and maybe they don't

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<v S4>have words for it. If there's not been a worldview

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<v S4>or a heart change. But people, everybody wants to leave

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<v S4>the kind of legacy that the world is better off

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<v S4>because of them, that their family is blessed because of

0:52:52.540 --> 0:52:55.140
<v S4>the choices that they made. But a change of heart

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<v S4>has to happen before we can have a change of fruit.

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<v S2>So true. There's a guy, his name's Dore. He wrote

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<v S2>a book called Measure What Matters. It's very popular. If

0:53:04.060 --> 0:53:06.940
<v S2>you're a business leader or you've got an MBA or

0:53:06.940 --> 0:53:09.500
<v S2>anything like that, you know of that book. But the

0:53:09.500 --> 0:53:14.090
<v S2>principle from it is great. His contention is that businesses

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<v S2>succeed or fail by one thing. They don't measure what matters.

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<v S2>And if you measure your life, your spiritual life in Christ,

0:53:26.650 --> 0:53:29.770
<v S2>by how many times you're going to church, wrong measurement.

0:53:31.050 --> 0:53:34.890
<v S2>It's good, but it's a field from the right one.

0:53:34.890 --> 0:53:37.970
<v S2>If you measure it by how many chapters you're getting

0:53:37.969 --> 0:53:40.330
<v S2>through in a day in the Bible, that's good, but

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<v S2>it's not the best measure. If you measure it by boy,

0:53:44.770 --> 0:53:47.130
<v S2>am I using my spiritual gifts or how much money

0:53:47.130 --> 0:53:51.690
<v S2>am I giving? Those are measures, but those are secondary measures.

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<v S2>The primary measure is found in Galatians five is the

0:53:54.850 --> 0:53:58.250
<v S2>fruit of the spirit. Being born in your life? Is

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<v S2>God altering you? And everything we're doing here with Carl

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<v S2>and crew is to help you see the need for God,

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<v S2>for salvation, and the need for God, for sanctification. And

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<v S2>the rest works itself out. How awesome is that?