WEBVTT - The Importance of Bible Study 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:14.000 Over 90% of Jesus followers have never shared their faith. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.080 Many say they just don't know how. Is there some? 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.680 Are there some lessons we can learn from the Apostle Paul? 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:27.320 Stay with me. We'll talk about that in just a moment. Hello, friends. 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:32.120 Welcome to Open Line, Moody Radio's Bible study across America. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.040 My name is Michael Ray, and I'm so grateful to 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.360 be joining you right here around the radio kitchen table. 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.760 We're talking about your questions about the Bible, God and 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.640 the spiritual life. If you have a question and you'd 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:54.560 like to call the phone number, here is (877) 548-3675. I 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.920 think it's good to write that down. So let me 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:05.570 give that to you again. Write it down. (877) 548-3675. And 0:01:05.569 --> 0:01:08.050 I'll give you the little secret that I've been trying 0:01:08.050 --> 0:01:11.450 to tell people the last few weeks that people say 0:01:11.450 --> 0:01:14.130 they can't get through. The best way to get through 0:01:14.170 --> 0:01:16.209 is to call at the at the top of the hour, 0:01:16.250 --> 0:01:19.290 because we've got a whole bunch of lines open right now, 0:01:19.610 --> 0:01:22.730 so you can fill them up. Uh, and get your 0:01:22.730 --> 0:01:27.010 question in sitting in the producer's chair today, we've got 0:01:27.010 --> 0:01:32.370 two chairs, Tricia McMillan and and Lisa. He's helping her out. Uh, 0:01:32.730 --> 0:01:35.809 Omar is our tech guy, as always. Rihanna's answering the phones. 0:01:35.810 --> 0:01:39.810 Appreciate the whole team working here. Uh, to make this 0:01:39.810 --> 0:01:47.930 program available to you. Again, the phone number (877) 548-3675. Time 0:01:47.930 --> 0:01:50.450 to get yourself a cup of coffee. Open your Bibles. 0:01:50.450 --> 0:01:56.930 We're going to study the scriptures together. People are terrified 0:01:57.130 --> 0:02:03.740 of public speaking. Jerry Seinfeld often talks about that 90% 0:02:03.740 --> 0:02:07.980 of all people are terrified of public speaking. And so, 0:02:07.980 --> 0:02:13.859 he says, they actually fear public speaking more than they 0:02:13.860 --> 0:02:18.340 fear death. And so he says at a funeral, the 0:02:18.340 --> 0:02:21.140 person giving the eulogy is probably more scared than the 0:02:21.139 --> 0:02:24.860 person in the casket. But people are fearful of sharing 0:02:24.860 --> 0:02:29.260 their faith because they don't know how. And as a result, 0:02:29.260 --> 0:02:30.780 I think it'd be really good for us to get 0:02:30.780 --> 0:02:34.140 a little clue from the Apostle Paul. I've been reading 0:02:34.139 --> 0:02:37.580 in the book of acts, and there are some lessons 0:02:37.580 --> 0:02:41.019 to be learned about how we can share our faith. 0:02:41.300 --> 0:02:46.619 From the Apostle Paul. And I want to talk today 0:02:46.740 --> 0:02:52.460 about three keys to effective faith sharing. And I've been 0:02:52.740 --> 0:02:57.430 I've been taking a look at the defenses that the 0:02:57.430 --> 0:03:00.590 Apostle Paul made when he was on trial. And I 0:03:00.590 --> 0:03:02.990 think that there are three key lessons that we can learn. 0:03:02.990 --> 0:03:04.590 So let me give them to you. First of all, 0:03:06.110 --> 0:03:09.510 when we share our faith, we need to tell our 0:03:09.510 --> 0:03:13.430 faith story. We just need to tell our story. If 0:03:13.470 --> 0:03:16.429 you read Paul's defenses, you'll see that when he was 0:03:16.430 --> 0:03:19.870 before the crowd in acts 22, he tells his faith 0:03:19.870 --> 0:03:23.669 story how he came to know the Lord when he's 0:03:23.669 --> 0:03:27.150 before the Sanhedrin. In acts 23, he tells his faith 0:03:27.150 --> 0:03:31.150 story how he came to know the Lord in acts 26. 0:03:31.510 --> 0:03:35.830 When he's before Agrippa, he tells his faith story the 0:03:35.830 --> 0:03:38.990 way he came to know the Lord. It's it's really 0:03:38.990 --> 0:03:41.910 a great model for us. Why is it so important 0:03:41.910 --> 0:03:45.110 to learn how to share our faith story, how to 0:03:45.110 --> 0:03:48.590 tell how we came to know the Lord? Well, people 0:03:48.590 --> 0:03:50.910 can dispute all sorts of facts and figures. They can 0:03:51.150 --> 0:03:54.190 dispute interpretations of the Bible. They can argue about the 0:03:54.190 --> 0:03:57.630 existence of God. Whether Jesus is the Redeemer, they can 0:03:57.630 --> 0:04:00.270 argue all sorts of facts. What they can't argue with 0:04:00.310 --> 0:04:03.790 is our experience. So what we do is we tell 0:04:03.790 --> 0:04:09.470 our faith story so we can share our own personal experiences. 0:04:09.750 --> 0:04:11.589 I think that's why it's so important. So we need 0:04:11.590 --> 0:04:15.870 to learn how to tell our story in a factual, 0:04:16.550 --> 0:04:20.110 compelling way that points people to the Lord Jesus. So 0:04:20.110 --> 0:04:23.630 we need to tell our story. Here's a second lesson. 0:04:25.110 --> 0:04:29.349 We need to communicate according to culture. Why is this 0:04:29.350 --> 0:04:32.270 so important? Well, we see it in the Apostle Paul 0:04:32.670 --> 0:04:37.830 when he is before Jewish people. He whenever he's giving 0:04:37.830 --> 0:04:41.990 his defense, he emphasizes what they need to hear, which 0:04:41.990 --> 0:04:45.950 is that he's a Pharisee, that he is faithful to 0:04:45.990 --> 0:04:49.830 the pharisaic teaching of the resurrection. He talks about in 0:04:49.830 --> 0:04:54.680 these defenses the messianic hope. He's always talking about the Messiah. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.760 In fact, what he says is I stand. This is 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.599 what he says to Agrippa I in acts 26, verses 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:07.200 23 and 24. Uh, uh, I'll start with verse 22 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.400 to this very day of I have obtained help that 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.240 comes from God, and I stand and testify to both 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.720 small and great, saying nothing else than what the prophets 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.640 and Moses said would take place. Verse 23, that the 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.160 Messiah would suffer, and that at first he would rise 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.440 from the dead. He would proclaim light to our people 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:30.080 and to the Gentiles. He is summarizing the message of 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:34.560 the messianic hope from the Hebrew Bible. He's talking about 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.360 messianic prophecy. So when he talks to Jews, he talks 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.440 about what Jewish people need to hear. But when he 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:44.119 talks to Romans like Felix and Festus and others, he 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.960 always emphasizes what they need to hear, which is that 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:53.690 he's law abiding, and he frequently mentions the resurrection for hope, 0:05:53.850 --> 0:05:56.610 so he is giving a message to them. So for example, 0:05:57.130 --> 0:06:02.170 in acts 25 eight, when he is before a Roman official, 0:06:02.330 --> 0:06:07.370 he says this. Uh, neither against the Jewish law, nor 0:06:07.370 --> 0:06:11.250 against the temple, nor against Caesar have I sinned at all. 0:06:11.610 --> 0:06:15.010 He's trying to emphasize that he is law abiding, because 0:06:15.010 --> 0:06:18.690 what did the Romans care about? Keeping the law. Having 0:06:18.690 --> 0:06:23.810 everything in order? No problems. So here's the point. Paul 0:06:23.970 --> 0:06:26.530 never changed his message. It was always about Jesus that 0:06:26.529 --> 0:06:30.850 he died and rose again. But he adapted how he 0:06:30.850 --> 0:06:38.010 communicated that message to the culture. Uh, now, why is 0:06:38.010 --> 0:06:41.930 that so crucial? Because we are living in a time 0:06:41.930 --> 0:06:47.010 when people really need to understand the culture. We need 0:06:47.010 --> 0:06:49.690 to communicate to people in a way that they need 0:06:49.690 --> 0:06:52.260 to hear the gospel. We never change the message, but 0:06:52.260 --> 0:06:56.180 we become students of culture and then we communicate that message. 0:06:56.300 --> 0:07:00.779 We adapt the communication of the message to our cultural framework. 0:07:00.779 --> 0:07:02.859 So we need to tell our story. We need to 0:07:02.900 --> 0:07:07.060 communicate according to our culture. And then thirdly, and I 0:07:07.060 --> 0:07:10.380 think this is crucial, we need to keep the main thing, 0:07:10.940 --> 0:07:13.820 the main thing. That's one of my favorite expressions that 0:07:13.820 --> 0:07:17.380 Doctor George Sweeting, former president of Moody, now with the Lord. 0:07:17.420 --> 0:07:19.420 He used to always say, keep the main thing, the 0:07:19.420 --> 0:07:24.020 main thing. Paul always included the essentials, like the verse 0:07:24.020 --> 0:07:27.460 I just mentioned in acts 2623. What is the most 0:07:27.460 --> 0:07:33.780 essential message? The essential message is this that Messiah must suffer. That, uh. 0:07:33.780 --> 0:07:36.900 And that as the first to rise from the dead, 0:07:36.900 --> 0:07:40.140 he would proclaim light to the to our people and 0:07:40.460 --> 0:07:43.220 to the Gentiles. What is he talking about? Messiah, suffering 0:07:43.220 --> 0:07:46.140 and death. Jesus died for our sins, and that he 0:07:46.260 --> 0:07:48.700 was the first to rise from the dead. He was. 0:07:49.430 --> 0:07:51.910 He was raised from the dead. He was resurrected. What 0:07:51.910 --> 0:07:54.350 is the good news? That Jesus died for our sins 0:07:54.350 --> 0:07:58.470 and was raised for our vindication? That is the message 0:07:58.470 --> 0:08:02.870 of the gospel. Paul always kept the main thing, the 0:08:02.870 --> 0:08:05.030 main thing. This is really crucial since we're learning how 0:08:05.030 --> 0:08:07.950 to tell our story. When we tell our faith story, 0:08:08.870 --> 0:08:12.150 sometimes it becomes about us. But really, when we tell 0:08:12.150 --> 0:08:14.150 our faith story, what we have to talk about is 0:08:14.150 --> 0:08:18.470 what Jesus did for us. It's about him, not about us. 0:08:18.750 --> 0:08:22.430 Keep the main thing, the main thing. You know, sometimes 0:08:22.430 --> 0:08:24.990 we'll have an opportunity to talk about our faith with 0:08:25.270 --> 0:08:30.190 a cab driver or a, uh, a driver for one 0:08:30.190 --> 0:08:33.670 of the services, uh, that, uh, that you can get 0:08:33.710 --> 0:08:38.230 to pick you up from the car with the car. Right? Uh, 0:08:38.550 --> 0:08:41.110 you can Uber it. And when you're in an Uber, 0:08:41.350 --> 0:08:45.550 you can talk about your faith. It's a one time thing. Uh, 0:08:45.670 --> 0:08:48.080 maybe with a store clerk or something like that. Other 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.600 times we have long term friendships and, you know, we 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.400 build up to the opportunity where we raise the flag 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.880 from time to time, talk about what God's doing in 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.440 our life. And then people, we love people until they 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.400 ask us why. But all the time, no matter what, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.080 we need to be able to do these things, tell 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.560 our story. We need to communicate in a way that 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.640 they can understand it according to their culture. And we 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.800 need to keep the main thing, the main thing. I 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.520 had a great opportunity, a friend I've made about 15 years, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:23.280 and I've raised the flag from time to time in 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.199 these 15 years. And just about a month ago, he 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.240 and his wife were visiting our home. And he said, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.200 you know, I never understood why it is that you. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.200 This is a Jewish man, an Israeli. He says, why 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.320 you believe that Jesus is the Messiah. How did you 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:44.520 come to this? I'm like, oh, it's glad you asked. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.170 And we spent a good hour talking all about that, 0:09:49.170 --> 0:09:52.610 and I was able to communicate with him, my faith story, 0:09:52.610 --> 0:09:55.850 communicate the good news that Jesus died for our sins 0:09:56.090 --> 0:09:58.329 and was raised from the dead. And we talked all 0:09:58.330 --> 0:10:01.290 about it from the messianic hope in the Hebrew Bible, 0:10:01.330 --> 0:10:04.449 because that's the cultural background that he needed. I felt 0:10:04.450 --> 0:10:07.370 like this is an opportunity right from the Lord that 0:10:07.370 --> 0:10:09.890 I had been praying for. God's going to give us 0:10:09.890 --> 0:10:13.130 all those opportunities. We just need to seize them no 0:10:13.130 --> 0:10:16.250 matter what. We need to tell our story in a 0:10:16.250 --> 0:10:23.090 culturally sensitive way, always keeping the good news at the center. 0:10:32.170 --> 0:10:35.170 I hope that will encourage all of us to keep 0:10:35.170 --> 0:10:39.970 talking about our Lord. Uh, our Messiah to others. And also, 0:10:40.010 --> 0:10:42.650 we'll be talking about some other principles of how to 0:10:42.690 --> 0:10:47.250 communicate in weeks to come. Now, I do want to 0:10:47.250 --> 0:10:51.010 tell you about our current resource. It is a terrific book. 0:10:51.450 --> 0:10:56.050 It is something that that I really appreciate because it 0:10:56.050 --> 0:11:01.370 was written by, uh, my former professor, Doctor Howard Hendricks, 0:11:01.370 --> 0:11:04.490 one of the greatest teachers ever. And it's called Teaching 0:11:04.690 --> 0:11:09.170 to Change Lives. He was a master teacher. Uh, Prof. Hendricks, 0:11:09.170 --> 0:11:11.290 he's now with the Lord, and he was my teacher 0:11:11.290 --> 0:11:14.090 in seminary. And what he does in this book is 0:11:14.090 --> 0:11:18.810 he relates seven practical laws, laws that will transform our 0:11:18.809 --> 0:11:21.890 approach to teaching. Why is this so important? We're all teachers. 0:11:22.290 --> 0:11:25.290 We all teach someone, maybe a home group, maybe a 0:11:25.290 --> 0:11:29.050 Sunday school class. It may be just talking with with 0:11:29.050 --> 0:11:32.650 a friend. Uh, but we all are teaching our children. 0:11:32.650 --> 0:11:35.890 We all teach. And so we need to know how 0:11:35.890 --> 0:11:38.210 to teach to change lives. And if you'd like a 0:11:38.210 --> 0:11:40.690 copy of Teaching to Change Lives, the way to to 0:11:40.730 --> 0:11:43.900 get a copy is one way is to give a 0:11:43.940 --> 0:11:46.460 gift of any size to open line and we will 0:11:46.460 --> 0:11:49.460 say thank you. And we so appreciate those gifts by 0:11:49.460 --> 0:11:52.780 sending you a copy of Teaching to Change Lives by 0:11:52.780 --> 0:11:56.660 master Teacher Howard Hendricks. If you'd like to give, call 0:11:56.740 --> 0:12:09.340 (888) 644-7122 or go to open Line radio.org. Um. We're going 0:12:09.340 --> 0:12:15.620 to talk to Barbara in Ohio. Uh, and, uh, I 0:12:15.620 --> 0:12:17.980 don't know what station she's listening on, but welcome to 0:12:18.020 --> 0:12:20.900 the program, Barbara. How can how can I help you today? 0:12:21.380 --> 0:12:25.740 Oh. Good morning. I have a question. I recently changed, 0:12:25.980 --> 0:12:30.540 changed churches, and I found this church that I really love. 0:12:30.580 --> 0:12:33.579 They're so warm and welcoming. And I love the church. Well, 0:12:33.580 --> 0:12:37.020 they had an altar call, which my church does not, 0:12:37.059 --> 0:12:39.820 and I go I go to a very straight laced 0:12:39.860 --> 0:12:44.709 typical Christian Church before. And I went to this church 0:12:44.710 --> 0:12:47.110 and they were so loving and so warm and everything. Well, 0:12:47.110 --> 0:12:49.910 they had an altar call, which my church does not have, 0:12:50.470 --> 0:12:56.830 and I went up to pray. And as I was kneeling, praying, uh, 0:12:58.070 --> 0:13:01.670 two ladies came and prayed behind me and I could 0:13:01.670 --> 0:13:05.270 understand what they were saying. And then another lady came 0:13:05.270 --> 0:13:10.069 behind me and she prayed in tongues. And that just 0:13:10.870 --> 0:13:16.080 scared me. So I've never heard that. And I'm 75 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.270 or 76 years old and I've never heard that before, 0:13:20.190 --> 0:13:22.510 and I didn't. I don't know what to do. So 0:13:22.510 --> 0:13:25.070 what do I. Is that not? That's when I look 0:13:25.110 --> 0:13:27.630 it up. It tells me it's demonic and then it 0:13:27.630 --> 0:13:31.630 tells me, oh, it's okay if somebody interprets it. I, 0:13:31.790 --> 0:13:35.910 I didn't know that anybody was interpreting it. I didn't 0:13:36.110 --> 0:13:40.350 I didn't know anything. I just got completely upset. So 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.080 what can you tell me about that? 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.800 Well, first of all, I don't think it's demonic. So 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:50.720 take a breath. Everything's okay. Uh, I I, I know 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.040 that there are many people who say that, but I, 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.360 I don't believe that at all. Uh, I don't think 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.199 it's really according to the Bible, as I understand it, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.600 if you read acts two, when we see tongues described, uh, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:09.520 we see we see that tongues are real languages, not, uh, 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.080 ecstatic utterances like that. So, uh, I don't think they 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.000 were really praying in tongues. They were. It was just 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.600 sort of, uh, ecstatic utterances. And there's lots of different explanations, 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.720 explanations for that. But I don't think it was demonic. Uh, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.960 here's the only thing. The advice I would give you 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:33.560 is what Paul says in First Corinthians. He says, how 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.880 can someone say Amen if they don't know what you're praying? 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.770 And so if someone came up to me and wanted 0:14:39.770 --> 0:14:42.890 to pray in tongues for me, I would say, you know, 0:14:42.930 --> 0:14:45.330 I can't understand what you're praying. I can't say amen 0:14:45.330 --> 0:14:47.730 to that. So please don't do that. And that's the 0:14:47.730 --> 0:14:51.290 simple explanation for what I would do. Thanks for wanting 0:14:51.290 --> 0:14:52.930 to pray for me. Please pray in a language I 0:14:52.930 --> 0:14:56.690 can understand and and I would leave it at that. 0:14:57.290 --> 0:15:02.290 You're saying I should tell this person, don't pray for 0:15:02.290 --> 0:15:04.730 me in tongues, in a language. 0:15:05.450 --> 0:15:07.570 I would just say pray for me in English language. 0:15:07.570 --> 0:15:11.290 God hears that too. And and I understand that. That's 0:15:11.290 --> 0:15:12.090 what I would say. 0:15:12.650 --> 0:15:15.170 Why? Why and how do people do that? 0:15:16.530 --> 0:15:19.130 Well, that's a that's more than I can do right now. Barbara, 0:15:19.170 --> 0:15:21.130 you hang on. We'll come back and talk about that 0:15:21.130 --> 0:15:23.330 when we come back. Okay. We're going to take a 0:15:23.330 --> 0:15:26.810 break here. And when we come back, we'll talk about 0:15:26.810 --> 0:15:30.410 why do people do that? Uh, why do people pray 0:15:30.410 --> 0:15:33.290 in tongues and what are they doing when they do that? Uh, 0:15:33.690 --> 0:15:35.690 when we come back, we'll talk about that. You're listening 0:15:35.730 --> 0:15:39.660 to Open Line with Michael Ray Melnick And this is, uh, 0:15:39.700 --> 0:15:44.460 time for you to call (877) 548-3675 to get your question in. 0:15:44.500 --> 0:16:01.300 We'll be right back. So stay with us. Welcome back 0:16:01.300 --> 0:16:04.620 to Open Line. So glad you're listening today. I really 0:16:04.620 --> 0:16:09.700 appreciate it. Uh, well, we were just talking. Did we 0:16:09.700 --> 0:16:14.500 lose our our caller, Omar? Oh, there we go. Uh, 0:16:14.500 --> 0:16:18.980 Barbara listening in Ohio. Hey, Barbara. Welcome back. Uh, you 0:16:19.020 --> 0:16:22.340 were asking. Let's see if I understand your question. We 0:16:22.340 --> 0:16:25.460 talked about you wanted to know if when someone prayed 0:16:25.460 --> 0:16:30.500 over you. Surprisingly, when they prayed in tongues. Was that demonic? Yes. Uh, 0:16:30.780 --> 0:16:33.140 and I said no. And then you want to know? Well, 0:16:33.140 --> 0:16:35.660 why would she do it? Let me again reiterate. I 0:16:35.660 --> 0:16:40.550 think the best thing to do is just as I'm 0:16:40.590 --> 0:16:44.910 trying to find the verse in first Corinthians where Paul 0:16:44.910 --> 0:16:50.230 says that we can't say Amen if we don't understand 0:16:50.230 --> 0:16:53.710 what a person is saying. And I know I was 0:16:53.710 --> 0:16:55.590 having trouble finding it because I was looking in the 0:16:55.590 --> 0:16:58.790 book of Romans, even though I was really supposed to 0:16:58.790 --> 0:17:05.990 be looking in Corinthians. Uh uh. It says, uh, that 0:17:06.150 --> 0:17:11.350 it's not expected that we understand it. Uh, that, uh, 0:17:12.030 --> 0:17:14.189 the person who prophesies is greater than the person who 0:17:14.190 --> 0:17:18.030 speaks in tongues or languages, unless he interprets so that 0:17:18.030 --> 0:17:24.950 the church may be built up. Uh, uh, it says, uh, 0:17:24.950 --> 0:17:28.710 it keeps emphasizing the need for understanding, uh, unless you 0:17:28.710 --> 0:17:31.790 use your tongue for intelligible speech. How? Well, what is 0:17:31.790 --> 0:17:39.750 spoken be known. Um. and, uh, I think that's, uh, important. 0:17:39.750 --> 0:17:43.710 It says, uh, that the person who speaks in another 0:17:43.710 --> 0:17:47.149 language should pray that he can interpret. For if I 0:17:47.150 --> 0:17:51.189 pray in another language, my spirit prays, but my understanding 0:17:51.190 --> 0:17:55.429 is unfruitful, then first Corinthians 1416. Otherwise, if you prays 0:17:55.430 --> 0:17:58.830 with the spirit, how will the uninformed person or the 0:17:58.830 --> 0:18:03.430 person who doesn't understand say Amen at your giving of thanks, 0:18:03.470 --> 0:18:07.270 since he since he doesn't know what you're saying? Uh, 0:18:07.710 --> 0:18:10.590 I think that's a key for this. So that's why 0:18:10.630 --> 0:18:15.070 based on that, since there was no interpretation, I don't 0:18:15.070 --> 0:18:18.870 think there could be interpretation. Uh, the best thing to 0:18:18.869 --> 0:18:21.870 do when someone prays, if someone came up and wanted 0:18:21.869 --> 0:18:23.709 to pray for me in tongues. This is a true story. 0:18:23.710 --> 0:18:26.949 I was walking in the aisles many years ago in 0:18:26.950 --> 0:18:30.510 a grocery store, and I ran into a person that 0:18:30.510 --> 0:18:31.990 turned out they were believers and they said, can I 0:18:31.990 --> 0:18:35.480 pray in tongues for you. I said, no, uh, you 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.520 can pray in English for me. I'm happy for that. Uh, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:40.679 or pray in other language. You know, I said, if 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.919 you know Yiddish, I understand that pray in Yiddish, but, uh, 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.479 pray in Hebrew. But don't pray in a language I 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.119 don't understand. Well, they couldn't pray in any of those languages, 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.560 so they prayed in English. I would say that's the 0:18:53.560 --> 0:19:01.159 best thing. If someone started praying in tongues, uh, that, uh, 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.440 I would just ask them to pray in a language 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.080 I understand. What is this? Why are they doing this? 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:10.080 That's what you wanted to know, right? Barbara? Uh, tongues 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:15.400 in in the Bible are real languages. They're not just 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:19.440 mere ecstatic utterances. Now, one of the things that I 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:24.360 have seen, and this is proven in a variety of ways, uh, 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:31.250 is that when we disconnect our thoughts from our speech, Beach. 0:19:31.850 --> 0:19:35.410 It comes out and it sounds exactly like tongues and 0:19:35.410 --> 0:19:38.010 it's interesting. Back in the day, when people were praying 0:19:38.010 --> 0:19:39.810 for me to receive the gift of tongues, they kept 0:19:39.810 --> 0:19:42.370 telling me not to think anything, to empty my mind 0:19:42.369 --> 0:19:44.210 and just let the sounds that are in my mouth 0:19:44.210 --> 0:19:47.330 come out. And I think that can happen. I don't 0:19:47.330 --> 0:19:53.330 think it's wicked. I don't think it's demonic. It's just 0:19:53.690 --> 0:19:58.490 sort of an ecstatic utterance separating thought from speech. And 0:19:58.490 --> 0:20:01.450 that's how it comes out. Doesn't show any sign of 0:20:01.450 --> 0:20:05.929 true language, according to linguists. Now, the only danger I 0:20:05.930 --> 0:20:07.690 can see there is a woman in my very first 0:20:07.690 --> 0:20:13.770 congregation who prayed in this ecstatic utterance so much she 0:20:13.770 --> 0:20:18.050 couldn't pray in her own language, English. She couldn't pray. 0:20:18.450 --> 0:20:21.170 She just couldn't do it. And the only way that 0:20:21.170 --> 0:20:25.210 she could be helped be helped was to write out 0:20:25.210 --> 0:20:28.930 her prayers. And that's how she disciplined herself to learn 0:20:28.930 --> 0:20:32.220 how to pray. prayer. Pray so I wouldn't be afraid 0:20:32.220 --> 0:20:34.060 of it. I would just ask someone not to pray 0:20:34.060 --> 0:20:36.940 over me in tongues. Uh, now I'm going to say 0:20:36.940 --> 0:20:39.540 one last thing, Barbara. There may be people here just 0:20:39.540 --> 0:20:41.620 falling off their chairs because they get so upset because 0:20:41.619 --> 0:20:44.540 they are really committed to tongues, I understand that. I 0:20:44.540 --> 0:20:46.820 just want to say this is my opinion as I 0:20:46.820 --> 0:20:51.660 understand it from the scriptures. And, uh, I love these 0:20:51.660 --> 0:20:54.380 people who might disagree with me about this. I know 0:20:54.380 --> 0:20:57.379 you do too. We just, uh. I'm just trying to 0:20:57.380 --> 0:20:59.380 say this is my opinion. This is the advice I'm 0:20:59.420 --> 0:21:02.220 giving you. And if you if a person out there 0:21:02.380 --> 0:21:05.660 is disagreeing with me, well, that's that's fine. We can 0:21:05.660 --> 0:21:08.740 disagree without being disagreeable. Okay? 0:21:09.300 --> 0:21:10.820 I was just scared of it. 0:21:10.820 --> 0:21:13.940 I didn't understand it, and I still am scared of it. 0:21:13.940 --> 0:21:15.220 I've never heard it before. 0:21:15.580 --> 0:21:17.820 Well, there's no need to be scared. There's just. Just 0:21:17.820 --> 0:21:21.300 give your get your your, uh, holy chutzpah up your 0:21:21.300 --> 0:21:24.980 your your boldness and say, oh, I appreciate you praying 0:21:24.980 --> 0:21:27.659 for me, but please pray in a language I understand 0:21:27.660 --> 0:21:31.550 so I can understand it and say Amen. Okay. 0:21:31.910 --> 0:21:34.870 One just really quick question. Does the language come from 0:21:34.869 --> 0:21:37.510 the Holy Spirit inside this person? 0:21:37.869 --> 0:21:40.710 No, I think it's not the Holy Spirit. I think 0:21:40.710 --> 0:21:42.190 it's from the person themself. 0:21:42.790 --> 0:21:43.710 Okay. All right. 0:21:43.910 --> 0:21:46.310 Now people, people who pray in tongues think it is 0:21:46.310 --> 0:21:50.590 from the Holy Spirit, but I don't. Okay. I think 0:21:50.590 --> 0:21:52.350 it's just from themselves. Okay. 0:21:52.390 --> 0:21:52.950 All right. 0:21:52.990 --> 0:21:54.590 Thank you very much. You have a wonderful day. 0:21:54.630 --> 0:21:59.070 Sure. You too. We're going to speak with Brooke in Indianapolis, Indiana, 0:21:59.070 --> 0:22:02.150 listening on WGN. Welcome to Open Line, Brooke. How can 0:22:02.150 --> 0:22:02.830 I help you? 0:22:03.670 --> 0:22:06.990 Hello. I was having a discussion with my son this week. 0:22:06.990 --> 0:22:11.949 He's eight. He wanted to know when the curtain tore 0:22:11.990 --> 0:22:15.109 at the temple. When Jesus died. Was there any piece 0:22:15.109 --> 0:22:18.830 of it left? And then I had a follow up question. 0:22:19.230 --> 0:22:23.950 When did the Jewish people know to stop sacrificing? Or 0:22:23.990 --> 0:22:26.670 do they know immediately from the curtain tearing to stop 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:28.879 sacrificing animals? Or did it take a while? 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.680 The answer to the first question is no documented discussion 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:41.080 in rabbinic literature or Josephus about the temple curtain being torn. Uh, 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.040 there's no discussion about it, so I can't answer that question. 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:48.320 I presume they fixed it, you know, but I, I don't, 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:53.520 I don't know. There's nothing about it that I can 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:58.120 speak about it. Uh, and when did they stop sacrificing? Uh, 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:00.480 you can even see in the book of acts there 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:04.680 are still sacrifices in the temple. In the book of Hebrews. 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:08.119 It talks about Hebrews, I believe was written to people 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:12.280 in Jerusalem, Jewish people in Jerusalem in the early 60s, 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:15.440 and it talks in the book of Hebrews about sacrifices 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:16.880 still being offered. 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:17.360 Okay. 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:23.960 So when did sacrifice stop? Uh, in AD 70, when 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:27.359 the temple was destroyed by the Romans. That's when the 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.200 sacrifices stopped. Okay. 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:29.640 Okay. 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:30.879 Yeah. Thank you. 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.960 Yeah. Uh, tell tell your son. You know, there's some 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.760 things we just don't know the answer to. And, uh, 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.399 you know, it's it's really not that important for us. 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:46.800 We know that Jesus sacrifice paid our debts, and. Yeah. 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.119 Whether other people saw that with a torn curtain, we 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:50.440 don't know. Okay. 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:51.400 Okay. Yeah. 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:52.040 Thank you. Okay. 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:56.320 Great. Thanks for your call. Uh, Steven in Sarasota, Florida, 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.800 listening on. Welcome to Open Line. How can I help 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:00.360 you today? 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:04.400 Hi, doctor. Thanks so much for having me. Um, okay. 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:06.720 I wonder if you had any tips for witnessing to 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:11.600 a Jewish friend. Um, and I'm Jewish. I mean, Jewish, national, 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:17.080 not Jewish. By who? Um, expresses to me that she 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:23.730 has no, um, no interest or sense of desire Or 0:24:24.050 --> 0:24:26.889 in any way, shape or form for God. And never 0:24:26.890 --> 0:24:30.170 has she felt no inclination toward God. She was raised 0:24:30.170 --> 0:24:32.490 in a sort of a communal situation, as she's just 0:24:32.490 --> 0:24:34.890 she describes it. She's a brilliant artist with a lot 0:24:34.890 --> 0:24:37.770 of kind of Facebook followers and things. And we're both artists, 0:24:37.770 --> 0:24:41.130 so we share that. And that's how I know her. Um, 0:24:41.130 --> 0:24:44.970 but she has become increasingly expressive and passionate about Jewish affairs, 0:24:44.970 --> 0:24:51.209 especially with regard to this kind of, um, overwhelming anti-Semitism 0:24:51.210 --> 0:24:55.290 worldwide and nationally. Um, so that's that's I guess that's 0:24:55.290 --> 0:24:58.130 how I describe the challenges or I don't I'm at 0:24:58.130 --> 0:24:59.850 a loss because I don't know what it's like not 0:24:59.850 --> 0:25:01.770 to have spiritual desire. 0:25:02.130 --> 0:25:04.409 Okay, here's here's the thing. I would say, first of all, 0:25:04.410 --> 0:25:06.250 we never want to beat someone over the head that's 0:25:06.250 --> 0:25:09.330 not spiritually interested. What we have to do is create 0:25:09.330 --> 0:25:11.810 a desire for it. That's why our language should be 0:25:11.850 --> 0:25:15.170 like seasoned with salt. Make someone thirsty for what we 0:25:15.170 --> 0:25:19.570 have to say. Also, Romans 1111 says, salvation has come 0:25:19.570 --> 0:25:23.180 to the Gentiles to make Jewish people jealous. So what 0:25:23.180 --> 0:25:25.220 that means is we need to live our life in 0:25:25.220 --> 0:25:27.780 such a way, to be so loving, to be an 0:25:27.780 --> 0:25:31.460 example of a Gentile that doesn't hate Jewish people. That 0:25:31.460 --> 0:25:36.020 your friend's going to say, Steven, why are you so different? 0:25:36.180 --> 0:25:38.820 And then you can talk about your faith. Uh, live 0:25:38.820 --> 0:25:41.340 your life in such a way that it creates her. 0:25:42.180 --> 0:25:44.659 It gives you an opportunity because she will ask you 0:25:44.660 --> 0:25:47.980 the questions. Okay. We'll be back in just a moment, 0:25:47.980 --> 0:25:50.740 so stay with us. This is open line with Michael Radonich. 0:26:03.180 --> 0:26:06.740 And we're back. This is open line with Michael Ray. 0:26:07.180 --> 0:26:10.780 And joining me right now for the Febc mailbag is 0:26:10.780 --> 0:26:14.940 Tricia McMillan. We're so grateful that Far Eastern Broadcasting Company 0:26:14.940 --> 0:26:19.460 is part of the Open Line team. Uh, they they 0:26:19.619 --> 0:26:22.909 partner with us to bring you the weekly Febc mailbag. 0:26:23.390 --> 0:26:26.629 Febc is a wonderful organization that brings the good news 0:26:26.630 --> 0:26:31.310 to people via media and personal engagement. 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People think that we're just on 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.760 the air together on Saturdays, but we do a lot 0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.360 of stuff together. You know, we we sometimes do pre-records 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:30.560 during the week. Uh, I get to be on Chris 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.679 Fabry once a month, and you're always in charge of that, 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.320 making sure that happens. 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.760 That's a different program that we have on Moody Radio. Yes. Chris. 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:40.439 Debris live. 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.119 Um, yeah. Uh, and, uh, I think that's kind of 0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:47.959 kind of wonderful. I appreciate the whole team. And, uh, 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.560 I think it's it's fun time to be part of 0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:54.879 the team. And people often, I think it's interesting, a 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.480 lot of people who write to me on Open Line 0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.480 say they appreciate the whole team, and they even include 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:03.640 Eva in the team who's on occasionally. So I appreciate 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.880 that because she's the one texting me the answers anyway. 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:11.280 That's right. So, uh, anyway, uh, I appreciate all the 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.320 members of the team, all the listeners and also the 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.600 people who are part of the team by being our 0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.290 kitchen table partners. And what they do is they give 0:28:19.330 --> 0:28:22.369 monthly so we can be on the air weekly. And 0:28:23.050 --> 0:28:26.050 one of the things we do for our kitchen table 0:28:26.050 --> 0:28:29.649 partners is we give them a we send them a 0:28:29.650 --> 0:28:33.130 Bible study moment every other week. And that Bible study 0:28:33.130 --> 0:28:37.889 moment is a little brief Bible study about eight minutes long, 0:28:37.890 --> 0:28:41.410 7 or 8 minutes, sometimes ten minutes. We've been doing something. 0:28:41.450 --> 0:28:43.410 Have you did have you been listening to these Bible 0:28:43.410 --> 0:28:44.610 study moments lately? 0:28:44.610 --> 0:28:45.610 I have been. 0:28:46.690 --> 0:28:47.050 I think. 0:28:47.050 --> 0:28:48.330 They're kind of encouraging. 0:28:49.290 --> 0:28:51.210 Uh, it's Eva and me. We've been going through the 0:28:51.210 --> 0:28:55.690 book of Ephesians and, uh, uh, we we we just 0:28:55.690 --> 0:28:58.530 started we recorded a whole bunch that will be coming 0:28:58.530 --> 0:29:02.290 up in weeks ahead on Ephesians three. So that's been 0:29:02.290 --> 0:29:04.050 a lot of fun for us going through the book 0:29:04.050 --> 0:29:09.730 of Ephesians. Uh, eight minutes at a time, you know? Yeah, yeah. 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But but if 0:29:48.700 --> 0:29:51.980 you don't see them, um, send us an email at 0:29:51.980 --> 0:29:55.940 openline at or through the contact form on our website, 0:29:55.940 --> 0:29:59.940 which is Openline radio, and just let me know and 0:29:59.940 --> 0:30:02.900 I will forward that to who needs to see that to, 0:30:02.940 --> 0:30:05.420 to make sure that if you are already a kitchen 0:30:05.420 --> 0:30:07.820 table partner, that you are getting those because we want 0:30:07.820 --> 0:30:08.060 you to. 0:30:08.060 --> 0:30:10.100 And of course, I think one of the cool things 0:30:10.100 --> 0:30:12.900 is if you've missed a couple and then we send 0:30:12.900 --> 0:30:16.100 you the link again, uh, you can get in there 0:30:16.100 --> 0:30:17.300 and listen to past. 0:30:17.340 --> 0:30:17.740 Yeah. 0:30:17.860 --> 0:30:18.740 Uh, past. 0:30:18.780 --> 0:30:20.340 You can listen to the past. Several. Yeah. 0:30:20.780 --> 0:30:24.020 Yep. Yep. That's that's kind of fun. So. Well, listen, 0:30:24.020 --> 0:30:26.300 let's let's take some of these questions people sent in. 0:30:26.300 --> 0:30:29.540 All right? Our first question is from Judith in Illinois. 0:30:29.540 --> 0:30:32.820 She listens to WNBA and wants to know is first 0:30:32.820 --> 0:30:36.540 Thessalonians four verses 13 to 18 the only reference to 0:30:36.580 --> 0:30:38.100 the rapture in the Bible? 0:30:39.220 --> 0:30:45.460 No, uh, there's, uh, first Corinthians 15, which says that 0:30:45.460 --> 0:30:47.980 we'll all be changed in the twinkling of an eye. 0:30:48.300 --> 0:30:52.820 And that's a reference to the rapture. It's it's they're 0:30:52.820 --> 0:30:57.340 talking about in the section about the resurrection. Uh, and 0:30:57.340 --> 0:30:59.540 then it says, we shall all be changed. It's not 0:30:59.540 --> 0:31:02.500 talking about the nursery at church that we shall all 0:31:02.500 --> 0:31:05.620 be changed. It's it's we're going to be transformed. We're 0:31:05.620 --> 0:31:08.940 either going to be resurrected or will be raised up. 0:31:08.940 --> 0:31:12.180 And that's in first Corinthians 15. I'm trying to find 0:31:12.180 --> 0:31:16.030 the exact verse, Uh, but, uh, that's where it is. 0:31:16.270 --> 0:31:19.750 And it's, it's crucial to know that that's what it's 0:31:19.750 --> 0:31:22.350 talking about. I also believe in Matthew 24. Now, a 0:31:22.390 --> 0:31:25.390 lot of people who believe in the pre-tribulational rapture, as 0:31:25.390 --> 0:31:27.630 I do, don't agree with me about this, but I 0:31:27.630 --> 0:31:30.990 think we're in Matthew 24 where it talks about two people, 0:31:31.030 --> 0:31:34.910 two men in a field, one is taken or um, uh, 0:31:34.910 --> 0:31:39.990 that that's a reference to the rapture as well. So. 0:31:40.790 --> 0:31:45.230 Uh, the First Corinthians was uh, 1551 and 52 talks 0:31:45.230 --> 0:31:47.470 about we'll all be changed in the twinkling of an eye. 0:31:48.070 --> 0:31:52.070 That's the rapture. Exactly. And then, uh, I was going 0:31:52.070 --> 0:31:53.469 to have to read the whole chapter to get to 0:31:53.470 --> 0:31:54.310 verse 51. 0:31:54.350 --> 0:31:55.110 Yes. You would. 0:31:55.590 --> 0:32:01.430 Uh, and then, uh, Matthew 24, where it talks about 0:32:01.790 --> 0:32:04.870 the rapture. No one knows the day or hour. And 0:32:04.870 --> 0:32:10.310 it says, uh, that there will be, uh, two men 0:32:10.350 --> 0:32:14.480 will be in the field. One will be taken, one left. That's, uh, acts. Uh, 0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.920 Matthew 2440. And then, uh, verse 41, two women will 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.000 be grinding at the mill. One will be taken and 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.840 one left. Therefore, be alert since you don't know what 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.640 day your Lord is coming. I think that is a 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.560 reference to the rapture. 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:33.600 Okay. So and again, that first Thessalonians 413 to 18 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.600 is a is a big one that people will reference. 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:40.000 But and people will say, well, the word rapture doesn't 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:44.200 appear in the Bible, and I agree it doesn't. But 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:49.600 then again, it does because in first Thessalonians four, uh, 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.360 which I like to call the great snatch, uh, where 0:32:53.360 --> 0:33:01.600 it says in verse, I'm turning my pages once again. Uh, 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:05.880 there it talks about that we'll be snatched. And the 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.040 Greek word is the word that we get rapture from, 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.170 not the Greek word, the Latin word that was translated into. 0:33:12.210 --> 0:33:17.170 And that was something like wrapped. And then what happened 0:33:17.170 --> 0:33:19.370 was when they wrote about the rapture, they took it 0:33:19.370 --> 0:33:24.370 from the Latin, Latin translation. But actually it's the word 0:33:24.410 --> 0:33:29.890 harpazo in first Thessalonians 417, we who are still alive 0:33:30.850 --> 0:33:34.650 will be caught up or snatched together with them in 0:33:34.650 --> 0:33:36.930 the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And 0:33:36.930 --> 0:33:39.130 so we'll always be with the Lord. And so that 0:33:39.130 --> 0:33:44.770 word snatch, uh, or caught up, that is the word that's, uh, 0:33:44.770 --> 0:33:46.170 becomes the rapture. 0:33:46.210 --> 0:33:49.890 Okay. Okay. Thank you. Next question is from Ed, who 0:33:49.890 --> 0:33:52.930 listens online in Florida, says we're told that the rapture 0:33:52.930 --> 0:33:56.130 could happen at any time. He is looking at revelation 0:33:56.130 --> 0:33:59.690 five nine, which. Hold on, I did look this up 0:33:59.690 --> 0:34:00.970 ahead of time so that I could. 0:34:01.010 --> 0:34:02.250 I know revelation five nine. 0:34:02.250 --> 0:34:03.370 You know it from memory. 0:34:03.930 --> 0:34:04.570 Yes. 0:34:04.570 --> 0:34:04.970 Okay. 0:34:05.010 --> 0:34:06.810 It's that's about every tribe and tongue. 0:34:06.810 --> 0:34:10.500 Every tribe and tongue and people and nation. Um, so 0:34:10.940 --> 0:34:14.660 he wants to know, can you clarify what who this 0:34:14.660 --> 0:34:18.779 verse is referring to? Because mission agencies, um, who were 0:34:18.780 --> 0:34:22.420 doing mission work to share the gospel around the world, 0:34:22.420 --> 0:34:24.620 state that there are thousands of people, groups or tribes 0:34:24.620 --> 0:34:27.420 who have not yet heard, who've never heard the gospel 0:34:27.420 --> 0:34:30.860 message and still need to be reached. So would will 0:34:30.900 --> 0:34:34.980 all of those people here before the rapture comes, or 0:34:34.980 --> 0:34:35.780 do we know that? 0:34:37.540 --> 0:34:40.100 No, I don't think there's any condition that everyone needs 0:34:40.100 --> 0:34:43.740 to hear before the rapture. Revelation five nine is not 0:34:43.739 --> 0:34:48.260 talking about the rapture, uh, in any way, shape or form. 0:34:48.739 --> 0:34:53.540 What is happening here in revelation five is you have, uh, 0:34:54.020 --> 0:34:58.940 the verse that describes what it's like in heaven worshiping 0:34:58.940 --> 0:35:04.460 the lamb. And, uh, they saying he is worthy because 0:35:04.460 --> 0:35:08.950 he redeemed people for God by by your blood from 0:35:08.950 --> 0:35:12.270 every tribe, nation, tribe and language and people and nation. 0:35:12.270 --> 0:35:15.270 You made them a kingdom and priests to our God, 0:35:15.550 --> 0:35:18.230 and they will reign on the earth. All that's saying 0:35:18.230 --> 0:35:22.390 is that the Lord Jesus redeemed people and they're celebrating this. 0:35:22.390 --> 0:35:26.350 They're worshipping him for this, because what they're saying is 0:35:26.590 --> 0:35:30.950 he redeemed the people from the whole world. And that's 0:35:30.950 --> 0:35:34.950 true already true. It doesn't mean he's redeemed every person 0:35:34.950 --> 0:35:39.229 from every tribe and every tongue and nation. It's just 0:35:39.230 --> 0:35:41.710 saying that he has redeemed some from every tribe and 0:35:41.710 --> 0:35:45.750 tongue and nation all around the world. And, uh, every 0:35:45.750 --> 0:35:49.310 doesn't mean every last one any more than it means 0:35:49.630 --> 0:35:53.549 that everyone was going out to to hear John preach. 0:35:54.350 --> 0:35:57.790 It says that in John one, I believe everyone was 0:35:57.790 --> 0:36:00.270 going out to hear John the Baptist preach. Well, not everyone. 0:36:00.310 --> 0:36:04.350 It meant a lot. Most, uh, and so when it 0:36:04.350 --> 0:36:08.080 says every tribe and tongue and nation. It's only saying 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.040 that the whole world there are going to be people saved. 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.719 It doesn't mean that if there isn't someone from some 0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.920 tribe in the Amazon that never heard the gospel, that 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:19.200 that that's not true. 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:25.640 So okay, so will everyone. The questions are spinning in 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:33.960 my head. So. So will everyone have a chance to believe. 0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:38.960 Everyone has a chance because of general revelation? Romans one 0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:44.000 says that God created the world in such a way 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.960 that if anyone ever responds to the general revelation, the 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.719 the creation revelation, that God is the creator, if they 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.719 respond to that, I believe he'll send more. If you 0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:00.640 look at Romans one, it says that people are without 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:06.959 an excuse because they, uh, they have general revelation. Here's 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:11.960 what Romans 120 says. For his invisible attributes, that is, 0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:17.640 his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:22.479 since the creation of the world, being understood through what 0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:28.840 he has made. And as a result, people are without excuse. 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:33.560 So everyone has general revelation that is sufficient to cause 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.839 people to wonder why. If they respond to that, that's 0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:38.520 when God sends the missionaries. 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:39.880 So okay. 0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:40.360 That's. 0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:41.160 Yeah, okay. 0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:42.960 Everyone has a chance in that sense. 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:43.600 Yeah. Thank you. 0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:44.759 Well, are we going to take a break here or 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:45.839 are we going to do more? 0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:47.359 Let's take a break. Go back to. 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.680 Calls. Okay. We'll talk to you in a moment. You 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:56.560 give us a call. (877) 548-3675. That was Tricia McMillan, the 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.919 queen of the questions. Putting those together that you sent 0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:02.239 in to open line radio.org. And you posted them at 0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.969 ask Michael a question. Uh, I'm Michael. I'll be right 0:38:05.969 --> 0:38:08.169 back with more of your calls and questions in just 0:38:08.170 --> 0:38:26.690 a moment. So stay with us. Welcome back to Open Line. 0:38:26.730 --> 0:38:29.529 So glad to be with you today. Uh, you know, 0:38:29.570 --> 0:38:33.330 Chosen People Ministries, uh, is one of our partners that 0:38:33.330 --> 0:38:37.489 helped bring Open Line to you. And, uh, they want 0:38:37.489 --> 0:38:41.810 to encourage you to share the good news of the 0:38:41.810 --> 0:38:45.290 Messiah with your Jewish friends. And one of the most 0:38:45.290 --> 0:38:50.410 important ways to to do that is to understand and 0:38:50.410 --> 0:38:56.290 explain Isaiah 53 to people. Isaiah 53. It's actually 5213 0:38:56.330 --> 0:39:01.010 through 5312. And that passage is the most crucial aspect 0:39:01.410 --> 0:39:04.100 of talking about the Messiah in the Old Testament, because 0:39:04.100 --> 0:39:08.140 it not only reveals that Jesus is the Messiah, the 0:39:08.180 --> 0:39:10.660 suffering servant, but that he died for us as a 0:39:10.660 --> 0:39:15.180 substitution and was raised again. That's all in that wonderful passage, 0:39:15.180 --> 0:39:17.740 but people have a hard time understanding it, and so 0:39:17.780 --> 0:39:21.500 they are offering a free book. It's called interpreting or 0:39:21.620 --> 0:39:28.620 explaining Isaiah 53. And that passage is so crucial for us. 0:39:28.780 --> 0:39:31.540 And what they what that does in this little booklet 0:39:31.540 --> 0:39:33.820 is it goes through it verse by verse and explains 0:39:33.820 --> 0:39:37.300 what it means. 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Uh, now we're going 0:40:14.510 --> 0:40:19.270 to talk to Mary Lynn in Seville, Ohio, listening on 0:40:19.270 --> 0:40:21.390 the app. Welcome to Open Line. Mary Lynn. How can 0:40:21.390 --> 0:40:22.150 I help you today? 0:40:23.390 --> 0:40:28.390 Thank you. Uh, by the way, I am a kitchen 0:40:28.390 --> 0:40:32.390 table partner, and I'm really looking forward to your current 0:40:32.390 --> 0:40:36.910 resource as a teacher, so I'm excited about that. 0:40:37.469 --> 0:40:41.069 That's so excellent. And I am so grateful, uh, that 0:40:41.070 --> 0:40:43.590 your kitchen table partner. It means so much to me. 0:40:43.750 --> 0:40:45.070 Thank you. So. 0:40:46.469 --> 0:40:50.190 Uh, I was just wondering if you could explain why 0:40:50.190 --> 0:40:56.750 the Israelites offered so many animals for single sacrifices. Uh, 0:40:56.750 --> 0:41:03.959 for example, when King Solomon offered all those animals for 0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:09.360 the dedication of the temple. It was 22,000 head of 0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:14.920 cattle and 120,000 sheep and goats. And there's different times 0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:19.759 in Scripture that they offer several animals for sacrifice. 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:21.800 Well. 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.360 Uh, part of the sacrifice, part of the worship experience 0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.400 was the worship meal where the animal sacrifice was eaten. 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.680 And I would suspect that not only were they giving 0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:37.520 generously to God, that's what sacrifices are, but also they 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.719 had to feed a lot of people because all the 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:45.080 people present at the dedication. So that's that's part of it. 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:46.320 So okay. 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:52.040 So did they burn the animals then or how did they. 0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:57.930 They burned the they they burned the, uh, the unclean 0:41:57.930 --> 0:42:03.370 portions like the, uh, the, the waste system and all 0:42:03.410 --> 0:42:07.770 that in animals. Those were brought outside the temple and 0:42:07.810 --> 0:42:11.969 and burned up. But the the animals themselves were sacrificed 0:42:11.969 --> 0:42:12.810 on the altar. 0:42:15.450 --> 0:42:18.970 Okay. And then when they were sacrificed on the altar, 0:42:18.969 --> 0:42:20.010 then they ate them. 0:42:20.690 --> 0:42:21.170 Mhm. 0:42:21.530 --> 0:42:21.930 Yeah. 0:42:22.530 --> 0:42:25.930 Okay. Oh that explains it. So it was used for 0:42:25.930 --> 0:42:26.690 food then. 0:42:27.410 --> 0:42:30.690 Yes. Okay. Okay. All right. 0:42:30.850 --> 0:42:34.290 I just pictured them burning that just that on the 0:42:34.290 --> 0:42:35.770 altar and that was it. 0:42:36.450 --> 0:42:41.090 No, no, just the unclean portions were taken out and burned. Okay. 0:42:41.290 --> 0:42:42.330 Okay. Thank you. 0:42:42.850 --> 0:42:43.490 Yeah. Good. 0:42:43.489 --> 0:42:47.609 Thanks for your call, Marilyn. Uh, we're going to talk to, uh, 0:42:48.010 --> 0:42:54.210 Craig in Bellefontaine, Ohio. Uh, listening. Also listening online. Appreciate that. Uh, 0:42:54.210 --> 0:42:55.570 how can I help you today, Craig? 0:42:56.820 --> 0:43:00.700 Thank you very much, Doctor Riddell. And I'd like to 0:43:00.700 --> 0:43:05.220 thank you also for. I started giving to chosen people, 0:43:05.219 --> 0:43:08.620 but I have learned through this all millennialism to appreciate 0:43:08.660 --> 0:43:13.580 the remnant in Israel so much more. I have two 0:43:13.580 --> 0:43:19.219 daughters that have fallen into this belief of the all millennialism, 0:43:19.739 --> 0:43:22.900 and I have been trying to, when I have talked 0:43:23.140 --> 0:43:28.219 to the one, um, tried to go from the Old Testament, uh, 0:43:28.219 --> 0:43:31.540 just because the promises so that it's not a metaphor 0:43:31.540 --> 0:43:34.460 in revelation or whatever else or whatever else they want 0:43:34.500 --> 0:43:39.379 to make it. But Zechariah 823, where ten men will 0:43:39.380 --> 0:43:42.299 grab Ahold of the cloak of a Jew. It distinguishes 0:43:42.300 --> 0:43:46.219 the Jew from the Gentile in the Millennial Kingdom. Zechariah 0:43:46.219 --> 0:43:51.940 1210 tribulation pour out on David and all in Jerusalem, 0:43:52.180 --> 0:43:59.540 distinguishing between Israel And the Gentiles. And instead of having 0:43:59.540 --> 0:44:06.020 a replacement theology, uh, and millennial, uh, Isaiah 6520, where 0:44:06.020 --> 0:44:08.740 it's into the millennial kingdom for longer life, but there's 0:44:08.739 --> 0:44:11.899 still a curse of death. And those that don't make 0:44:11.900 --> 0:44:15.140 it to 100 are cursed. I'm trying to find out 0:44:15.140 --> 0:44:18.739 am I going the wrong direction? And am I misinterpreting 0:44:19.620 --> 0:44:20.620 these verses? 0:44:21.900 --> 0:44:25.180 Well, uh, let me just say, first of all, I'm 0:44:25.180 --> 0:44:28.899 glad your daughters are believers. And I wouldn't allow this 0:44:28.900 --> 0:44:33.380 to become a a big block between you and your daughters. 0:44:33.420 --> 0:44:37.100 You know, just this is not something to argue about. Uh, 0:44:37.300 --> 0:44:40.500 be grateful that they know the Lord, and and that's 0:44:40.739 --> 0:44:44.180 that's good news. If they ever want to discuss it, uh, 0:44:44.820 --> 0:44:47.339 you know, that's fine. Uh, but just do it in 0:44:47.340 --> 0:44:53.790 a loving way. And secondly, you asked the very right question. 0:44:53.790 --> 0:44:58.110 The reason, the difference, I think, between people who are 0:44:58.110 --> 0:45:00.270 millennial and those of us who believe in an actual, 0:45:00.270 --> 0:45:04.910 literal earthly kingdom with Israel at the center. Uh, well, 0:45:06.150 --> 0:45:08.549 that has to do with how we read the Bible. 0:45:09.590 --> 0:45:12.950 I believe that we should read progressively. So we start 0:45:12.950 --> 0:45:15.750 in the Old Testament, and we allow the Old Testament 0:45:15.750 --> 0:45:19.430 to inform our understanding of the New Testament. People who 0:45:19.590 --> 0:45:23.469 are a millennial. What they do is they take the 0:45:23.469 --> 0:45:26.270 New Testament and they read it back into the old. 0:45:26.270 --> 0:45:28.509 So they see the church in the New Testament, and 0:45:28.510 --> 0:45:30.390 then they see Israel in the old and say, the 0:45:30.390 --> 0:45:34.710 church is Israel. Uh, so, uh, it's the direction that 0:45:34.710 --> 0:45:38.230 they're reading. What you're doing is you're reading the Old Testament, 0:45:38.230 --> 0:45:40.950 taking it at face value as it was understood by 0:45:41.110 --> 0:45:45.510 those who wrote it, uh, and those who heard it originally. 0:45:45.750 --> 0:45:48.710 And now when you come to the New Testament, that 0:45:48.710 --> 0:45:52.480 informs your reading and it explains what different passages mean 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.439 in the New Testament. So I think that's the right 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.359 direction to read it. You're doing fine, Craig. Just make 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:02.799 sure that you keep loving those girls, okay? Don't, uh, 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.399 don't give up on them. Uh, be grateful they know 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:09.280 the Lord. And, wow, that's the first hour. It's gone 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:12.920 so fast. So glad that you are, uh, here, but 0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:15.520 stick around for the second hour. Uh, it's on most 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.640 of these stations. If your station doesn't carry it, you 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.000 can always listen online. Or you can check out the 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.560 Moody Radio app or even catch the podcast afterwards during 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.839 the break. Check out our website, openlibrary.org. 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