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S3: It seems that the the calendar moves even more quickly.

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S3: By the way, did you know that the way to

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S3: make the calendar slow down is to definitely have routines,

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S3: but also have experiences in your life? And I noticed

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S3: that I'm going to be going to Kenya with T.I,

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S3: the Timothy Initiative in January. That's great. Yeah, we're going

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S3: to be checking out actually a very unreached people group,

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S3: And I'm really excited to be doing this. My Brad's

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S3: going to be traveling with me, but it's those kind

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S3: of encouragement, these experiences that we have with God. Even

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S3: God in the word have a profound effect of slowing

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S3: down the clock. Brain scientists? Yeah, brain scientists have said

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S3: that routine, although it is good if all you have

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S1: Yeah, well, because you're when you have experiences, you're making memories.

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S1: I remember this in January and this in March and

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S3: Yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, when I was, uh,

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S3: good time there. Philippi, my bride and I. It was

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S3: Take it in for all it's worth. Well, we are

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S3: a little bit. It's all about hiking through the scriptures.

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S3: really good stuff we're going to cover today. The first

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S2: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to

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S3: It's Carl and crew, and we are tackling promises this

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S3: whole week. And they are Christmas promises. They're found all

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S3: but probably Gabriel, wouldn't you say? Colin.

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S5: Yes. And announcing the name of Jesus. You'll give him

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S5: Yes, yes. And Savior is at the heart of the

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S3: Yeah. And save you from your sins. Yeah. Let's linger

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S5: he forgives us. And that's wonderfully true. But the word

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S5: There's a there's a power here that's actually going to

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S3: It doesn't mean sinless perfection. So, Colin, how do you

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S5: You shall not steal. You're not going to do it.

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S3: out of the reach of your power to do a

439
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S3: work in them, to set them free from something that

440
00:25:01,619 --> 00:25:05,139
S3: is a sin, shame, repent, repeat, cycle. And I pray

441
00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:08,980
S3: right now chains would be broken, people would be walking free.

442
00:25:10,420 --> 00:25:12,540
S3: And Lord, I pray too that they would pick up

443
00:25:12,540 --> 00:25:14,700
S3: the sword of the spirit, which is the Word of God,

444
00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:17,419
S3: that they would do battle in the name of Jesus,

445
00:25:17,420 --> 00:25:21,380
S3: that they would find victory by proclaiming your word, the

446
00:25:21,380 --> 00:25:25,580
S3: spoken Word of God, the Rhema word, speaking it out

447
00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:30,250
S3: in the face of temptation. Give them victory. We pray,

448
00:25:31,050 --> 00:25:33,570
S3: and we thank you that as we pray, Your Holy

449
00:25:33,570 --> 00:25:36,770
S3: Spirit goes to work immediately. What a joy that is.

450
00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:39,090
S3: God and we give. I just give you a shout

451
00:25:39,130 --> 00:25:45,609
S3: of praise. Thank you God. These are honest people, so

452
00:25:45,609 --> 00:25:49,530
S3: move on their behalf. Show them the moves that they

453
00:25:49,530 --> 00:25:52,410
S3: need to take by the power of your spirit. I

454
00:25:52,410 --> 00:26:01,930
S3: pray in Jesus name. Amen. And let it be. We

455
00:26:01,930 --> 00:26:08,010
S3: love you guys. God's got a plan for you. You

456
00:26:08,010 --> 00:26:12,570
S3: are no longer slaves to sin. Grab the Word of God.

457
00:26:12,730 --> 00:26:16,490
S3: Speak it out. Find a few passages of Scripture that

458
00:26:16,490 --> 00:26:20,690
S3: you can speak out. Share with a trusted friend what

459
00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:25,530
S3: you're battling with. Don't walk alone. God will give you victory.

460
00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:29,830
S3: I believe it, I've seen it. It's real coming up

461
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:33,629
S3: here in a moment. Sometimes at Christmas time, it's good

462
00:26:33,630 --> 00:26:38,430
S3: for us to understand who. There's some people that have

463
00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:43,030
S3: a rough go in life and they're all over the world.

464
00:26:43,630 --> 00:26:44,230
S3: Hang on.

465
00:26:44,510 --> 00:26:49,190
S2: She's a choreographer extraordinaire, and everything is Greek to her.

466
00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:53,270
S2: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew

467
00:26:53,270 --> 00:26:54,550
S2: on Moody Radio.

468
00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:57,470
S3: You know, it's one thing to claim to have been

469
00:26:57,470 --> 00:27:01,750
S3: radically impacted by Jesus Christ, but one of the great

470
00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:04,990
S3: evidences of it. And people ask for evidence here all

471
00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:07,109
S3: the time, because we're casting a vision of life that's

472
00:27:07,109 --> 00:27:09,270
S3: found in Christ. One of the great evidences of it

473
00:27:09,270 --> 00:27:13,910
S3: is that there's going to be mercy and humility and justice.

474
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:19,430
S3: I mean, I'm talking Micah six eight. I'm talking love

475
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:23,510
S3: that radiates so clearly that people will say, man, I

476
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:25,590
S3: see the deeds in your life and I want to

477
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:28,660
S3: give glory to God. And every once in a while,

478
00:27:28,660 --> 00:27:31,260
S3: a ministry comes along and we're like, oh boy, we

479
00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:34,820
S3: got to get this one featured like right now. John

480
00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:37,739
S3: Merlino is with us right now. John, it's such a

481
00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:39,940
S3: joy to have you with us. I'm so fired up

482
00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:43,380
S3: about this conversation. Let's back up a little bit. Um,

483
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:45,980
S3: God worked in your heart. I want to let you

484
00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:48,540
S3: share the story. He worked in your heart radically a

485
00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:51,220
S3: number of years ago. What happened that led to this

486
00:27:51,220 --> 00:27:53,100
S3: powerful ministry? And what are you doing?

487
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:58,060
S7: After college, I went to Nepal with four friends from college.

488
00:27:58,060 --> 00:28:01,500
S7: We worked with street kids and really had our hearts

489
00:28:01,540 --> 00:28:04,780
S7: broken by what we saw and experienced. And a couple

490
00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:07,020
S7: years after that, a friend had helped to start a

491
00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:09,700
S7: home and he was going back. He called me and

492
00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:11,659
S7: you know, I got a one way ticket thinking I'd

493
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:14,380
S7: be home by Christmas. I got back to Nepal and

494
00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:17,940
S7: I saw on the one hand the tragedy of street children,

495
00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:20,540
S7: and on the other hand, the kids in this home

496
00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:23,859
S7: being loved and cared for. And that contrast made me

497
00:28:23,859 --> 00:28:25,419
S7: feel like this is what I, what I want to

498
00:28:25,420 --> 00:28:27,439
S7: do with my life. And so I started talking to

499
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,520
S7: friends and we started what would become Love Justice International.

500
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,240
S7: Our mission is sharing the love of Christ by fighting

501
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,760
S7: the world's greatest injustices. And that's what we try to

502
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,800
S7: do around the world.

503
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,680
S3: Man, you're doing it. And I got to tell you something.

504
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920
S3: I dug into your website a little bit. You guys

505
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,440
S3: are not playing games, man. You are literally doing a

506
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,520
S3: head count on how many of these traffickers are getting incarcerated. Convicted?

507
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,200
S3: You're intercepting. You've got stations set up so that you

508
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,360
S3: can be eyes and ears on the ground. You're not

509
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,920
S3: playing games, are you? John.

510
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,719
S7: You know, human trafficking is one of the world's greatest injustices. And,

511
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,880
S7: you know, 50 million people who live in slavery today.

512
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,240
S7: And these are people who are made in the image

513
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,000
S7: of God having their personhood violated in the worst ways imaginable.

514
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,600
S7: And these people are as precious as the people you

515
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,720
S7: and I love most. And so if we want to

516
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,280
S7: know how God feels about it, just imagine how we

517
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,840
S7: would if it was happening to the people we love most.

518
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,920
S3: Yeah. I'm so with you. Give us a story, bro.

519
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,670
S3: I mean, these are hard. And this is going to

520
00:29:24,670 --> 00:29:28,270
S3: be a gut ripper for sure, but give us a story,

521
00:29:28,270 --> 00:29:30,510
S3: something that's on your heart that people need to get

522
00:29:30,510 --> 00:29:32,670
S3: a feel. I want you to take us there.

523
00:29:33,270 --> 00:29:35,270
S7: Yeah, well, I'll just tell you a story of a

524
00:29:35,270 --> 00:29:39,110
S7: real intercept that happened recently. I'm going to call this

525
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:42,150
S7: woman Julia. And she was 20 years old, living in

526
00:29:42,150 --> 00:29:45,350
S7: rural Nepal, in a village where there are few economic opportunities.

527
00:29:45,390 --> 00:29:47,430
S7: She was offered a job by a trafficker, and she

528
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:49,910
S7: traveled with him to India. And when she got there,

529
00:29:49,910 --> 00:29:52,510
S7: our monitors noticed her crossing the border with a much

530
00:29:52,550 --> 00:29:55,470
S7: older man. They stopped to question him and at first

531
00:29:55,470 --> 00:29:57,950
S7: she lied, saying that they were married. Then she decided

532
00:29:57,950 --> 00:30:00,990
S7: to tell the truth and she was intercepted. Her trafficker

533
00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:04,070
S7: was arrested. She ended up staying in a shelter during

534
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:06,710
S7: initial court procedures. Our team had a chance to share

535
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:09,310
S7: the gospel with her and she became a Christian, and

536
00:30:09,390 --> 00:30:12,390
S7: soon she started expressing a desire to help others. And

537
00:30:12,430 --> 00:30:15,630
S7: she would become a monitor for us for several years.

538
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:18,830
S7: She would intercept more than 50 people before she left

539
00:30:18,830 --> 00:30:21,229
S7: to start a family. So I know a little bit

540
00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:24,010
S7: about what happens to the victims of human trafficking who

541
00:30:24,010 --> 00:30:27,210
S7: are not intercepted. How these innocent girls try to run away,

542
00:30:27,250 --> 00:30:30,050
S7: and they're hunted down and beaten up, and they're broken

543
00:30:30,050 --> 00:30:32,930
S7: in through some of the most horrific types of assault

544
00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:35,970
S7: you can imagine. And just when I think of what

545
00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:38,530
S7: we're able to do for Julia and what we're able

546
00:30:38,530 --> 00:30:42,090
S7: to do for someone about every 20 minutes, I guess

547
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,330
S7: I just would say that I'm blessed and honored to

548
00:30:44,370 --> 00:30:45,930
S7: be able to be a part of what God is

549
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:46,970
S7: doing in that.

550
00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:50,810
S3: Wow. John Merlino with us right now. Wow. John, this

551
00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:53,530
S3: is so moving, bro. You don't know this, but I

552
00:30:53,530 --> 00:30:57,170
S3: was in Mumbai and we were working with an organization

553
00:30:57,170 --> 00:31:00,450
S3: that's doing a great work. And I went right into a,

554
00:31:01,450 --> 00:31:05,010
S3: a brothel, a big, huge open air brothel. And I

555
00:31:05,050 --> 00:31:08,130
S3: saw these pimps face to face. And then we started

556
00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:13,170
S3: finding out. They'll drug these girls. They'll get them strung out, man.

557
00:31:13,170 --> 00:31:15,610
S3: And this is not just some action film that we

558
00:31:15,610 --> 00:31:19,450
S3: see here stateside. They're doing everything they can to hold

559
00:31:19,450 --> 00:31:22,800
S3: on to these girls. There's a level of darkness in

560
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,360
S3: this sex trafficking slavery that's hard to even get your

561
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,840
S3: head around until you see it face to face. John,

562
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,040
S3: how do you keep from getting almost anesthetized to the

563
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,200
S3: pain and the evil?

564
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,240
S7: Because we're intervening before all that happens. We're not necessarily

565
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,760
S7: face to face with it. You know, like most strategies

566
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,920
S7: that are used to fight human trafficking, the common ones

567
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,040
S7: are rescue and aftercare and awareness and the rescue and aftercare.

568
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,920
S7: Tremendously important, but it fails to prevent it from happening.

569
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,440
S7: And awareness aims to prevent it. But it doesn't have

570
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,440
S7: a tangible impact. And so our work aims at that

571
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,080
S7: most strategic moment when a person is in the process

572
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,320
S7: of being trafficked, but before they've been exploited, and it

573
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,760
S7: tangibly prevents people from being lured into the horrors of

574
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,120
S7: modern slavery. So I have faced up to that. I've

575
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200
S7: had my heart broken by it. We say that a

576
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,360
S7: broken heart is the anointing that you need to have.

577
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,800
S7: But I also believe God loves every person more than

578
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,480
S7: I can imagine. You know, no sparrow falls outside his

579
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,500
S7: care so somehow, and I don't know how. He's sovereign

580
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:24,620
S7: over all of it. I'm not anybody's savior. I'm just

581
00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:26,340
S7: going to be a part of what God is doing.

582
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:29,660
S3: So how in the world do you identify and intercept?

583
00:32:29,660 --> 00:32:32,420
S3: I am so intrigued with this ministry, bro. And we're

584
00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:34,220
S3: going to give you a link here, boom crew, because

585
00:32:34,220 --> 00:32:36,620
S3: it's Christmas time and there is a gift you can

586
00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:40,700
S3: give to someone who's being hauled across borders or into

587
00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:45,060
S3: a town, or they've been abducted something, and you can intervene.

588
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:48,460
S3: This is so intriguing to me. How does it operate?

589
00:32:48,460 --> 00:32:49,420
S3: How do you do this?

590
00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:53,900
S7: We have staff who are working in strategic transit locations

591
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:56,820
S7: like a bus station, a border crossing, a train station,

592
00:32:56,820 --> 00:33:00,300
S7: and they're basically looking for signs of human trafficking and

593
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,860
S7: then questioning people and using questioning to uncover active human

594
00:33:03,860 --> 00:33:07,140
S7: trafficking cases. And they'll seek to intercept someone, either by

595
00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:09,580
S7: convincing them not to go involving the police or in

596
00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:12,100
S7: the case of minors, involving their parents. So, you know,

597
00:33:12,140 --> 00:33:14,300
S7: it looks a lot of different ways in different places.

598
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:17,300
S7: All of our work is done through local churches, local subcommittees,

599
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,690
S7: local Christians. We do it in 17 countries. We have

600
00:33:20,730 --> 00:33:25,250
S7: 57 stations around the world, and 150 or so monitors

601
00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:27,930
S7: who just stand on the front lines of this fight

602
00:33:27,930 --> 00:33:31,490
S7: and daily intervene against some of the most vicious criminal

603
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:33,490
S7: networks and on behalf of some of the most vulnerable

604
00:33:33,490 --> 00:33:34,370
S7: people in the world.

605
00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:37,650
S3: Do you have the support of local authorities where you work,

606
00:33:37,690 --> 00:33:40,850
S3: or are you independent, or are you working in conjunction

607
00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:44,130
S3: with local authorities? I'm sure they appreciate those countries that

608
00:33:44,130 --> 00:33:46,410
S3: are sensitive to this. Appreciate you being there.

609
00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:49,010
S7: We do have the cooperation and support of local authorities.

610
00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:52,250
S7: We can't, you know, without permission to do this work

611
00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:54,410
S7: in almost all in all the contexts we work in,

612
00:33:54,410 --> 00:33:56,810
S7: we could not do it. The actual level of like

613
00:33:56,850 --> 00:34:00,570
S7: full cooperation we have varies, but generally we do. We

614
00:34:00,610 --> 00:34:03,810
S7: work with the police, we get permission from local authorities,

615
00:34:03,810 --> 00:34:05,610
S7: and really, we couldn't do what we do without the

616
00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:08,569
S7: support and protection of police and local authorities in the

617
00:34:08,570 --> 00:34:09,410
S7: places we work.

618
00:34:09,850 --> 00:34:13,690
S3: Are they trapped, attempting to traffic? Are you intercepting girls

619
00:34:13,690 --> 00:34:14,810
S3: and boys?

620
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:18,049
S7: Yeah, even. Even men. Women and children. It can even

621
00:34:18,090 --> 00:34:20,750
S7: be men. There's sex trafficking that you talked about is

622
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:23,589
S7: one type of trafficking. There's also labor trafficking. And that

623
00:34:23,590 --> 00:34:26,669
S7: can be it tends to be younger. That does tend

624
00:34:26,670 --> 00:34:29,270
S7: to be more children. But there's men as well.

625
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:31,710
S3: What do we need to know that we don't know?

626
00:34:31,989 --> 00:34:35,430
S3: The average person listening right now is super sensitive to this.

627
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:38,830
S3: And we got some radically committed Jesus followers who are

628
00:34:38,830 --> 00:34:41,230
S3: going to send you some Christmas gifts here. My man,

629
00:34:41,230 --> 00:34:45,190
S3: to these men and women and boys and girls, frankly. Uh,

630
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:47,430
S3: but what do we need to know that we don't know?

631
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:49,350
S3: Give us the inside skinny here, John.

632
00:34:49,790 --> 00:34:51,509
S7: I would just say that the world is full of

633
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:55,510
S7: brokenness and injustice, and God's heart is broken over it.

634
00:34:55,550 --> 00:34:57,950
S7: Jesus says, whatever you do for the least of these,

635
00:34:58,310 --> 00:35:01,110
S7: you do for me. And so the world's greatest injustices,

636
00:35:01,110 --> 00:35:03,910
S7: the people who are suffering the most, they are far away.

637
00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:06,710
S7: Injustice in this world is so horrible, and it's so

638
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:10,910
S7: close to God's heart. And so we've just crossed 100,000

639
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:13,670
S7: individuals that we've intercepted to prevent them from being trafficked.

640
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:17,900
S7: And it took us 19 years to reach that 100,000 milestone.

641
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:19,899
S7: We're going to we're on pace to double it in

642
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,860
S7: three years. So you can think of our strategy as

643
00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:26,459
S7: a strategically parked police car that can deter speeding. That's

644
00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:28,739
S7: what we do with human trafficking. And we believe that

645
00:35:28,739 --> 00:35:31,259
S7: the scaling of the strategy around the world can drive

646
00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:34,660
S7: the downfall of slavery in the places where it's most rampant.

647
00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:36,819
S7: So the church today has an opportunity to be a

648
00:35:36,820 --> 00:35:39,180
S7: part of this, and you can be a part of

649
00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:42,299
S7: making a tremendous impact in the lives of some of

650
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:43,540
S7: the neediest people in the world.

651
00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:47,900
S3: Yeah, man. I'm sitting here right now looking at your website,

652
00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:50,940
S3: watching the scroll bar. I mean, the amount of shelters

653
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:53,379
S3: you got, 20 of them set up, you've rescued or

654
00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:58,859
S3: intercepted 100,000 men, women and children who are prevented from

655
00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:05,420
S3: being trafficked. Active monitoring stations, 57 countries where you've piloted

656
00:36:05,460 --> 00:36:10,860
S3: transit monitoring. 31 countries. Man, you're getting with the program,

657
00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:13,779
S3: aren't you? My man? I'm proud of you. This is amazing.

658
00:36:14,739 --> 00:36:17,770
S3: We want to help. John. This is cool. Boom! Crew.

659
00:36:17,969 --> 00:36:22,170
S3: We try to provide opportunities, especially around Christmas. I mean,

660
00:36:22,170 --> 00:36:24,250
S3: one of the coolest things that we can do here

661
00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:28,690
S3: is at Christmas time, always reach outside of our immediate

662
00:36:28,690 --> 00:36:32,530
S3: family and go, wow, there's a whole world out there.

663
00:36:32,730 --> 00:36:35,210
S3: Some people don't have presents to unwrap. Some are in

664
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:38,049
S3: the clutches of someone who's trying to traffic them slave

665
00:36:38,090 --> 00:36:40,930
S3: trade them in some way. And we can be part

666
00:36:40,930 --> 00:36:44,370
S3: of intercepting. This is one of the coolest ministries going.

667
00:36:45,010 --> 00:36:50,210
S3: John Molano with a great ministry called love Justice. And

668
00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:53,569
S3: I want you to grab this keyword justice. If God's

669
00:36:53,570 --> 00:36:58,969
S3: prompt in your heart to intercept a little girl and

670
00:36:59,210 --> 00:37:04,290
S3: break the cycle of madness, text justice to 800 555

671
00:37:04,330 --> 00:37:09,730
S3: 7898 800 555 7898.

672
00:37:10,050 --> 00:37:13,850
S2: He was running from God. But God's love brought him home.

673
00:37:14,050 --> 00:37:17,950
S2: Carl is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on

674
00:37:17,989 --> 00:37:19,029
S2: Moody Radio.

675
00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:21,750
S3: Carl and crew. What a day we're having here. And

676
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:24,630
S3: we are ramping up toward Christmas. So guess what? We're

677
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:29,109
S3: taking your requests. And I remember this when I was

678
00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:32,310
S3: a kid. It was done all the time. Like all

679
00:37:32,350 --> 00:37:32,950
S3: the time.

680
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:33,590
S4: Big deal.

681
00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:35,069
S1: Especially in Christmas.

682
00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:37,270
S3: Who's that overnight lady? What's her name?

683
00:37:38,070 --> 00:37:38,710
S1: I don't know.

684
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:40,310
S3: Oh, what's her name?

685
00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:41,110
S4: There were many.

686
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:46,069
S3: The woman that, uh. What is it, Elvira? No. Is

687
00:37:46,070 --> 00:37:49,070
S3: that the name of a woman? Overnight? Somebody that does

688
00:37:49,070 --> 00:37:52,150
S3: overnight anyway. She takes requests, and just every once in

689
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:54,830
S3: a while. I stumbled on it years ago, and it's like, oh,

690
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:57,950
S3: my goodness. And people love it. You know, I'm blown away.

691
00:37:57,950 --> 00:38:01,390
S3: So we're taking requests, uh, for your favorite Christmas song

692
00:38:01,390 --> 00:38:06,390
S3: and why? 805 55 7898. Yeah. We're going to roll

693
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:09,270
S3: along here this half hour. And it's the why that

694
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:11,630
S3: I'm most compelled by. Why don't I get that story

695
00:38:11,630 --> 00:38:16,610
S3: behind it? Why do you request that song? So let's go. Gina.

696
00:38:16,610 --> 00:38:19,770
S3: Right here in Illinois. What's your favorite song and why? Sister.

697
00:38:21,210 --> 00:38:26,090
S8: Hark! The herald angels sing. God and sinners reconciled. It

698
00:38:26,090 --> 00:38:30,009
S8: opens up prayer. We can always go to our Savior

699
00:38:30,010 --> 00:38:32,770
S8: in prayer. It just feeds my spirit.

700
00:38:33,330 --> 00:38:36,210
S3: That's beautiful. Good enough reason right there, sister. Here's a

701
00:38:36,210 --> 00:38:39,450
S3: little Chris Tomlin. Hark, the Herald angels sing. That's a

702
00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:42,450
S3: way to get us rolling here today. This is for you, Gina.

703
00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,370
S3: And a whole lot more. Let's enjoy.

704
00:38:46,570 --> 00:38:58,770
S9: The hell angels sing. Glory to the newborn king. Peace

705
00:38:58,770 --> 00:39:11,970
S9: on earth and mercy mild. God, sin reconciled. Joyful all

706
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:24,680
S9: nations rise. Join the triumph of the skies with angelic

707
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:35,960
S9: host proclaim Christ is born in Bethlehem high. The help

708
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:57,080
S9: of angels sing. Glory to the new born King. Christ

709
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:07,439
S9: by highest is heaven on earth. Christ the ever lasting Lord.

710
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:17,180
S9: Late in time. Behold him come up. Spring up of

711
00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:28,500
S9: a virgin's womb, veiled in flesh. God has seen his incarnation.

712
00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:43,580
S9: And pleased as man with men to dwell Jesus our Emmanuel.

713
00:40:44,219 --> 00:40:55,500
S9: How the hell thrilled angels sing. Glory to the newborn King.

714
00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:18,169
S9: The heaven born Prince of Peace. Hail the sun of righteousness.

715
00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:28,610
S9: Light and life to all he brings. Risen with in

716
00:41:28,730 --> 00:41:38,330
S9: his wings. My, he lays his glory by. Born that

717
00:41:38,330 --> 00:41:47,930
S9: men more may die. Born to raise the sons of earth.

718
00:41:48,730 --> 00:41:57,730
S9: Born to give his second birth. On the heads of

719
00:41:58,050 --> 00:42:07,529
S9: angels sing. Glory to the new born king.

720
00:42:07,730 --> 00:42:12,030
S3: Sinners. reconciled man. Chris Tomlin, Hark, the herald angels sing. Well,

721
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:14,350
S3: we are going to pick up the pace here, I think. Tammy.

722
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:17,590
S3: First time caller. Dalton. Georgia. What's your favorite song and why?

723
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:23,070
S10: Uh, absolutely. Love the Little Drummer Boy by for King

724
00:42:23,070 --> 00:42:26,629
S10: and Country. I saw them perform that a few years

725
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:30,069
S10: ago at the Country Music Awards ceremony. I believe it

726
00:42:30,070 --> 00:42:32,950
S10: was something like that, but, I mean, it was amazing.

727
00:42:33,230 --> 00:42:36,150
S10: It was just blew me away. It was just beautiful.

728
00:42:36,190 --> 00:42:40,030
S10: I mean, it it I it I can't say enough

729
00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:43,029
S10: about it. And I still love that performance. Yeah. It

730
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:44,029
S10: was just amazing.

731
00:42:44,070 --> 00:42:46,109
S3: Yeah. It's beautiful. I hope to hear it myself. I'm

732
00:42:46,110 --> 00:42:49,669
S3: going to be going joining them at a concert right

733
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:52,549
S3: here in Chicagoland area. This is Little Drummer Boy for

734
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:55,950
S3: King and Country. This thing's got some zip to it here.

735
00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:58,310
S3: Just here we go, here we go.

736
00:43:01,590 --> 00:43:11,780
S11: So they told me. PA rum pum pum pom. On

737
00:43:11,940 --> 00:43:17,060
S11: new born king to see. PA rum pum pum pum.

738
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:30,299
S11: Our finest gifts we bring our umpa pom pom. To

739
00:43:30,340 --> 00:43:36,420
S11: lay before the king. Power up the pum pum. Rum

740
00:43:36,420 --> 00:43:47,060
S11: pum pum pum. Rum pum pum pum. So to honor him.

741
00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:52,819
S11: PA rum pum pum pum. When we come.

742
00:43:55,940 --> 00:43:58,859
S12: J j.

743
00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:13,120
S11: So baby PA rum pum pum pum. I am a

744
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:21,680
S11: poor boy too. PA rum pum pum pum. I have

745
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:30,360
S11: no gifts to bring. PA rum pum pum pum. That's

746
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,440
S11: fit to give our king power up a bum bum

747
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:45,080
S11: bum bum bum bum rum pum pum pum. Shall I

748
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:52,200
S11: play for you? PA rum pum pum pum on my

749
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,120
S11: drum J.

750
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:11,150
S12: J. 12. J Hey hey hey!

751
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:22,830
S11: Enough! Power up a pom pom. The ox and lamb

752
00:45:22,830 --> 00:45:31,430
S11: kept time. PA up a bon bon. I'll play my

753
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:41,270
S11: song for you. PA pom pom. I'll play my best

754
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:47,070
S11: for him. PA pa pum pum, rum pum pum pum.

755
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:56,910
S11: Rum pum pum pum. Then he smiled at me. PA

756
00:45:56,910 --> 00:46:02,109
S11: rum pum pum pum. Me and my tum.

757
00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:33,049
S3: That's called putting a finish on it right there. That's

758
00:46:33,050 --> 00:46:36,049
S3: for king and country. Little drummer boy. Well, it's so

759
00:46:36,050 --> 00:46:39,810
S3: good taking your requests. This is awesome. Just for a

760
00:46:39,810 --> 00:46:43,170
S3: short spurt here. Judy Morton, Grove, Illinois. What's your song

761
00:46:43,170 --> 00:46:43,730
S3: and why?

762
00:46:44,450 --> 00:46:48,810
S13: Okay, my song is I'll Be Home for Christmas 1998.

763
00:46:48,810 --> 00:46:51,250
S13: My son was in the army. Showed up at my

764
00:46:51,250 --> 00:46:55,810
S13: front door for Christmas. Fred had a kitten in his

765
00:46:55,810 --> 00:46:58,129
S13: hand and that's what I remember.

766
00:46:58,290 --> 00:47:01,530
S3: Oh, that. That is great.

767
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,399
S1: He can't get better than that.

768
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,840
S14: Oh my goodness.

769
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,080
S3: Here's a little Barlow girl. I'll be home for Christmas.

770
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,600
S3: This is for you, Judy. And a whole lot more.

771
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:23,880
S15: I'm dreaming tonight of a place I love even more

772
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:35,279
S15: than I usually do. And although I know it's a

773
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:55,239
S15: long road back. I promise you. I'll be home for Christmas.

774
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:17,140
S15: You can place of me. Please have snow and mistletoe

775
00:48:18,620 --> 00:48:37,020
S15: and presents around the tree. Christmas Eve will find me.

776
00:48:41,300 --> 00:49:02,930
S15: Where the light gleams. I'll be home for Christmas. If all.

777
00:49:06,130 --> 00:49:21,810
S15: My dreams. I'll be home for Christmas. Christmas plans. You

778
00:49:21,930 --> 00:49:34,530
S15: can plan on me. Please have snow and mistletoe and

779
00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:49,130
S15: presents round the tree. Christmas Eve will find me. Where

780
00:49:49,130 --> 00:50:01,630
S15: the love lies. Clear. I'll be home for Christmas, if

781
00:50:01,630 --> 00:50:28,470
S15: only in my dreams. Please have snow and mistletoe and

782
00:50:28,469 --> 00:50:43,070
S15: presents around the tree. Christmas Eve will find me. Where

783
00:50:43,310 --> 00:50:59,700
S15: the love light gleam. I'll be home for Christmas. If

784
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:16,100
S15: only my. If only. My dreams.

785
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:29,459
S3: Love it man. Barlowgirl. I'll be home for Christmas. Cool

786
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:33,140
S3: little rendition on that one. That's for you, Judy.

787
00:51:33,140 --> 00:51:36,739
S4: And surprised by her son coming home from the military.

788
00:51:36,780 --> 00:51:39,779
S3: And about 10 or 20,000 more of you that go. Yeah,

789
00:51:39,820 --> 00:51:40,900
S3: I'll take that one.

790
00:51:41,620 --> 00:51:46,180
S2: A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is

791
00:51:46,180 --> 00:51:49,819
S2: in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

792
00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:53,020
S3: Again, I just want to spike this just briefly. There

793
00:51:53,020 --> 00:51:58,049
S3: is a distinction in belief between believing in Jesus as

794
00:51:58,850 --> 00:52:04,010
S3: the Messiah in theory, and then believing him and receiving

795
00:52:04,010 --> 00:52:07,170
S3: him to yourself. And then you become children of God.

796
00:52:07,210 --> 00:52:10,370
S3: It's very important distinction here, because one of the great

797
00:52:10,370 --> 00:52:16,010
S3: deceptions of salvation is that, yeah, I believe. No, it's

798
00:52:16,050 --> 00:52:20,210
S3: it involves repentance. There is no, it's not good news

799
00:52:20,210 --> 00:52:24,169
S3: if it excludes the element of repentance, turning around belief

800
00:52:24,170 --> 00:52:27,049
S3: that turns your life around. And that's done by the

801
00:52:27,050 --> 00:52:31,089
S3: grace of God. It's it's all him. This Christmas season,

802
00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:35,609
S3: we want Jesus to mean something to you, don't we?

803
00:52:35,650 --> 00:52:38,930
S3: Susie Larson we want him to mean something, sister.

804
00:52:39,210 --> 00:52:42,089
S16: Absolutely. So good to be with you this morning. God

805
00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:43,049
S16: bless you guys.

806
00:52:43,170 --> 00:52:46,370
S4: Got Susie Larson joining us right now. Best selling author,

807
00:52:46,410 --> 00:52:49,930
S4: national speaker, host the popular radio show, radio show Susie

808
00:52:49,969 --> 00:52:53,729
S4: Larson live. Susie. In this season, what's the first thing

809
00:52:53,730 --> 00:52:56,229
S4: that you sense God is doing in your own life,

810
00:52:56,270 --> 00:52:57,190
S4: your own family.

811
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:59,790
S16: Well, you know, actually just posted while I was waiting

812
00:52:59,790 --> 00:53:01,710
S16: to get on with you on Instagram about just the

813
00:53:01,710 --> 00:53:03,910
S16: idea that for most of us, this is a season

814
00:53:03,950 --> 00:53:07,390
S16: of blessing and battle trial of triumph, joy and sorrow.

815
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:10,470
S16: These things are often in tension in the season because

816
00:53:10,469 --> 00:53:13,149
S16: you see the festivities all around you, but you're so

817
00:53:13,150 --> 00:53:16,270
S16: aware of the battles you're facing. And if we have

818
00:53:16,270 --> 00:53:19,589
S16: a wrong view of what Christmas really is about, we

819
00:53:19,590 --> 00:53:22,190
S16: will fall into the ditch of despair. You know, we

820
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:25,910
S16: so sanitize that first Christmas that we tend to hold

821
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:29,990
S16: up a commercialized version as an idea of success. But

822
00:53:29,989 --> 00:53:33,870
S16: Jesus came to all kinds of oppression and injustice and

823
00:53:33,870 --> 00:53:37,670
S16: sorrow and bondage and captivity. He was born in the dark,

824
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:40,670
S16: as they say. He came at a time when it was,

825
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:43,029
S16: you know, the world was a mess. And our world

826
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:46,150
S16: is a mess now. And yet he came and he's

827
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:48,430
S16: coming again. So what I'm sitting with is I'm thinking

828
00:53:48,430 --> 00:53:51,029
S16: about the idea of true joy. I mean, a joy

829
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:53,390
S16: that you actually feel and the joy that's the fruit

830
00:53:53,390 --> 00:53:55,730
S16: of the spirit. The the joy. That's our strength. It's

831
00:53:55,730 --> 00:53:57,810
S16: kind of piggybacking off of what Karl just said, but

832
00:53:57,850 --> 00:54:00,370
S16: this little passage is where I'm sitting. It's Luke six

833
00:54:00,370 --> 00:54:02,969
S16: and it says, why do you keep calling me Lord? Lord,

834
00:54:02,969 --> 00:54:05,930
S16: when you don't do what I say, I will show

835
00:54:05,930 --> 00:54:08,570
S16: you what it's like when someone comes to me, listens

836
00:54:08,570 --> 00:54:11,130
S16: to my teaching, and then follows it. It's like a

837
00:54:11,130 --> 00:54:13,609
S16: person building a house who digs deep and lays the

838
00:54:13,610 --> 00:54:16,850
S16: foundation on solid rock. When the flood waters rise and

839
00:54:16,850 --> 00:54:19,810
S16: break against that house, it stands firm because it's well built.

840
00:54:19,810 --> 00:54:21,969
S16: So I'll just pause here. He's saying, you know, it's

841
00:54:21,969 --> 00:54:24,850
S16: making the distinction, like Carl was saying, you know, even

842
00:54:24,850 --> 00:54:31,489
S16: the demons believe. But biblical belief shows that this way. Listen. Follow. Build, listen. Follow, build.

843
00:54:31,489 --> 00:54:34,690
S16: You're listening to what Jesus says. You're following his lead,

844
00:54:34,690 --> 00:54:38,169
S16: and you're building your life accordingly. You're building an infrastructure

845
00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:41,170
S16: in your life of belief based on the promises of God.

846
00:54:41,210 --> 00:54:44,009
S16: When the storms come, it's the storm that will break

847
00:54:44,010 --> 00:54:46,049
S16: against the house. The house will stand, but it goes.

848
00:54:46,090 --> 00:54:48,850
S16: He goes on to say, anyone who hears and doesn't

849
00:54:48,850 --> 00:54:51,370
S16: obey is like a person who builds a house right

850
00:54:51,410 --> 00:54:54,480
S16: on the ground without any kind of foundation. Again, when

851
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,319
S16: the floods sweep, it's the house that falls. And I'll

852
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,960
S16: just tell you many, many years ago, as you know,

853
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,480
S16: I was as you know, I battled a lot with

854
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,480
S16: health challenges around Lyme disease. And I was begging God

855
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,360
S16: to heal me. And I didn't have a firm, really

856
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,000
S16: foundation of the father's love. And I didn't know that

857
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,560
S16: he had me in a training season. I just thought

858
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,399
S16: I was a have not or maybe in on a technicality,

859
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,600
S16: because the contrast of my friends blessings and my battles

860
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,000
S16: was so stark. So I reduced my prayers to God.

861
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,960
S16: If you're not going to do it for me, would

862
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,279
S16: you heal me from my little children? Because they need

863
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,800
S16: a mother? And there was a day that God thundered

864
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,239
S16: in my spirit. He said, Susie, I could heal you today,

865
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,080
S16: but you'd lose it tomorrow. I'm like.

866
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:34,840
S4: What? Wow.

867
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,600
S16: He said, I could heal you today, but you'd lose

868
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,279
S16: it tomorrow. I'm like, why? And he said, because you

869
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,759
S16: don't have the infrastructure for healing. You think like a

870
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,799
S16: sick person. And I started to realize because back then,

871
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,280
S16: 30 something years ago, they didn't know much about Lyme.

872
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,719
S16: And it made you feel like a hypochondriac because you

873
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,020
S16: had symptoms all over the place. So I thought, like

874
00:55:53,020 --> 00:55:55,660
S16: a sick person, I was led astray by every symptom,

875
00:55:55,660 --> 00:55:58,380
S16: every fear. I mean, the symptoms turned to fear at

876
00:55:58,380 --> 00:56:00,540
S16: every turn. And so I'd been, even though I was,

877
00:56:00,540 --> 00:56:02,899
S16: I had right theology around salvation. If you go back

878
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:05,540
S16: to this passage, I was building a house of fear

879
00:56:05,739 --> 00:56:10,100
S16: because my thoughts, my my rehearsed thoughts, even my prayers

880
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,820
S16: were begging, pleading. You know, I was building a house

881
00:56:12,820 --> 00:56:14,900
S16: of fear. And so I've done a lot of brain

882
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:17,700
S16: science research since then. And I will tell you your

883
00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:20,500
S16: brain scans for the things you most repeatedly think of.

884
00:56:20,540 --> 00:56:22,660
S16: So there are a lot of Christians even walking through

885
00:56:22,660 --> 00:56:24,580
S16: the season right now. You might have a right theology

886
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:27,740
S16: on salvation, but you're not listening, following, or building because

887
00:56:27,739 --> 00:56:31,220
S16: you're building based on your trials. When I started to think,

888
00:56:31,219 --> 00:56:34,100
S16: I really renewed my mind around my health. Back then,

889
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:36,819
S16: this was again, I don't know, 30 years, 20, 30

890
00:56:36,820 --> 00:56:39,100
S16: years ago, I started, you know, I was a fitness person,

891
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:41,020
S16: so I knew enough about my human body to go,

892
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:43,140
S16: you know what? There's more, right with my body than

893
00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:45,060
S16: wrong with my body. So, you know, my eyes still

894
00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:46,580
S16: adjust when I go from a dark room to a

895
00:56:46,580 --> 00:56:48,900
S16: light room. Thank you for that, Lord. You know I

896
00:56:48,940 --> 00:56:52,609
S16: can see my children. I can listen to worship. I

897
00:56:52,610 --> 00:56:55,250
S16: can speak a blessing. There's so many things I can do.

898
00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:57,050
S16: I'm not going to focus on what I can't do.

899
00:56:57,330 --> 00:56:59,129
S16: And I can just tell you, I'm standing here now,

900
00:56:59,130 --> 00:57:01,569
S16: all these years later and I will say I'm a

901
00:57:01,570 --> 00:57:04,210
S16: healthy person resisting affliction. I am not a sick person

902
00:57:04,210 --> 00:57:06,810
S16: trying to get healthy, but I would say that that

903
00:57:06,810 --> 00:57:11,090
S16: idea of building an infrastructure applies to every area of life. Yes. Amen.

904
00:57:11,250 --> 00:57:14,170
S3: Amen. Susie Larson, our guest right now, when we get back,

905
00:57:14,210 --> 00:57:16,010
S3: here's what I feel prompted to do. We're going to

906
00:57:16,010 --> 00:57:18,130
S3: go away from a text that we were going to

907
00:57:18,130 --> 00:57:20,970
S3: go after. We're going to go after Luke six. Believe

908
00:57:21,290 --> 00:57:23,650
S3: honest belief. We're going to I'm going to share with

909
00:57:23,650 --> 00:57:26,770
S3: you something very stunning, because there's a young man sitting

910
00:57:26,770 --> 00:57:29,930
S3: in studio here that that passage that you read, God

911
00:57:29,930 --> 00:57:32,090
S3: used in his life in a big way. His name

912
00:57:32,090 --> 00:57:35,330
S3: is Young Thunder or Jonathan Rank. I call him Young Thunder,

913
00:57:35,610 --> 00:57:41,169
S3: but believe authentic belief follow build incredible stuff and what

914
00:57:41,170 --> 00:57:44,250
S3: you've just heard can set you free. But we've got

915
00:57:44,250 --> 00:57:45,730
S3: more coming up straight ahead.

916
00:57:46,770 --> 00:57:50,830
S2: Take your next step with Jesus Today you're listening to

917
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:51,830
S2: Carl and crew.

918
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:54,270
S3: All right. God has an appointment for you here today.

919
00:57:54,270 --> 00:57:57,830
S3: This is tremendous. Uh, Susie Larson, our guest with us

920
00:57:57,830 --> 00:58:02,470
S3: right now, she opened with really felt the spirit's prompting

921
00:58:02,510 --> 00:58:05,270
S3: to go to Luke chapter six, verse 46. Now, here's

922
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:07,910
S3: what I want you to hear. Boom, crew. Why do

923
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:10,189
S3: you call me Lord? Lord, and do not do what

924
00:58:10,190 --> 00:58:13,990
S3: I tell you? We were talking about belief that does

925
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:19,510
S3: not save the demons have that the belief that saves

926
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:23,350
S3: is much different. It results in obedience. It is fueled

927
00:58:23,350 --> 00:58:26,230
S3: by the spirit. Only the Spirit of God can birth

928
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:30,110
S3: this new person in you. But young Thunder, quickly! That's

929
00:58:30,110 --> 00:58:31,310
S3: your story, isn't it, my man?

930
00:58:31,350 --> 00:58:34,510
S1: Yeah, it's my story. I was I was raised in church, uh,

931
00:58:34,510 --> 00:58:37,830
S1: a pastor's kid. I went to Moody Bible Institute and graduated,

932
00:58:37,830 --> 00:58:40,790
S1: and I worked here at Moody Radio and was telling

933
00:58:40,790 --> 00:58:44,390
S1: people about Jesus. But I was living a double life. I,

934
00:58:44,510 --> 00:58:46,150
S1: I had a lot of sin in my life, and

935
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:48,460
S1: I didn't care much to fix it. I wanted to

936
00:58:48,460 --> 00:58:50,540
S1: go my own way, and my motives were my motives.

937
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:53,260
S1: They weren't for God. And in the midst of God

938
00:58:53,260 --> 00:58:55,180
S1: confronting me with all my sin, I said, God, you

939
00:58:55,180 --> 00:58:57,140
S1: love me, you forgive me. You have grace for me.

940
00:58:57,340 --> 00:59:00,300
S1: And he quoted Luke 646 to me, saying, why do

941
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:02,340
S1: you call me Lord, and do not do what I say?

942
00:59:02,660 --> 00:59:05,380
S1: And I had no rebuttal for that. If I was

943
00:59:05,380 --> 00:59:07,300
S1: going to be a follower of his, I needed to

944
00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:09,260
S1: be a follower of his. And he needed to be

945
00:59:09,260 --> 00:59:11,820
S1: my master, not just my benefits giver.

946
00:59:11,820 --> 00:59:13,700
S3: And he saved your soul shortly thereafter.

947
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:15,660
S1: And he saved my soul shortly after. And now.

948
00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:18,020
S3: You were. Then you were baptized. So, I mean, this

949
00:59:18,020 --> 00:59:21,820
S3: is pastor's kid. Moody Bible Institute came on the radio show.

950
00:59:21,980 --> 00:59:24,460
S3: We start breaking down Matthew seven. Many will say on

951
00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:28,660
S3: that day, Lord, Lord, and you became an authentic believer

952
00:59:28,660 --> 00:59:32,340
S3: in Jesus Christ, no longer just demonic belief in who

953
00:59:32,340 --> 00:59:32,820
S3: he was.

954
00:59:32,860 --> 00:59:35,260
S1: I told Jesus, I believe in you, but now I

955
00:59:35,300 --> 00:59:36,020
S1: follow you.

956
00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:39,260
S3: Susie, build on that sister. This is a God moment here.

957
00:59:39,580 --> 00:59:41,780
S3: I want you to give the gospel to people. That

958
00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:45,460
S3: includes repentance, because that's what's left out, isn't it, Susie?

959
00:59:45,780 --> 00:59:48,400
S16: And absolutely is. And we've done such a disservice by

960
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,000
S16: watering down the gospel, which is no gospel at all.

961
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,160
S16: The gospel is so potent it set captives free. It,

962
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,640
S16: you know, delivers the depressed, and it transfers us out

963
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,880
S16: of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of God's Son.

964
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,840
S16: So if you're listening today, and you are even only 80%

965
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,720
S16: assured you're going to heaven, then that's no assurance whatsoever,

966
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,240
S16: because you can have full assurance. The thing is, there's

967
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,600
S16: a chasm between your orphan status and your status, and

968
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,760
S16: the only way to bridge that chasm is Jesus. Nothing

969
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,800
S16: you can do. If you have one sin in your life,

970
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,680
S16: you're disqualified from being an heir of God. You can't

971
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,000
S16: jump high enough. And so love came down. Jesus came down.

972
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,800
S16: And so the gospel is it's costly. It's not simplistic,

973
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,080
S16: but it is simple A, B, c acknowledge, believe and confess.

974
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,680
S16: I mean, with your whole heart you get to that

975
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,360
S16: place like this young gentleman just said, I'm acknowledging I

976
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,120
S16: need a Savior. I am a sinner. I cannot cross

977
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,080
S16: that chasm. I believe that Jesus lived and died, rose again,

978
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,430
S16: and he blew the doors off of the devil's claim

979
01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:49,150
S16: on me. And now I confess Jesus as my Lord

980
01:00:49,150 --> 01:00:51,830
S16: and King, which means I repent of my sin. I

981
01:00:51,830 --> 01:00:54,190
S16: ask him to come and cleanse me from all unrighteousness,

982
01:00:54,190 --> 01:00:56,590
S16: to heal my soul, to make me whole. And what

983
01:00:56,590 --> 01:00:59,790
S16: happens then is you're transferred over that chasm into the

984
01:00:59,790 --> 01:01:02,430
S16: kingdom of God's dear son. You're filled with His spirit,

985
01:01:02,430 --> 01:01:06,270
S16: and suddenly your eternal address is changed, your spiritual DNA

986
01:01:06,430 --> 01:01:09,070
S16: is changed. And what happens then? As you walk in

987
01:01:09,110 --> 01:01:11,510
S16: the spirit, your tastes start to change. I mean, what

988
01:01:11,510 --> 01:01:14,110
S16: your cravings are even start to change. There's a big

989
01:01:14,110 --> 01:01:18,070
S16: difference between perpetual sinning and just occasional stumbling. So when

990
01:01:18,070 --> 01:01:20,470
S16: you are transferred into the kingdom, you are brand new

991
01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:21,230
S16: through and through.

992
01:01:21,550 --> 01:01:26,550
S3: Amen. Susie, um, I want you to pray in just

993
01:01:26,550 --> 01:01:28,070
S3: a moment, but we have a link for you. And

994
01:01:28,070 --> 01:01:31,910
S3: here's what's amazing. A lot of you have seen a

995
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:36,390
S3: pattern of invitation to follow Jesus that includes raising a

996
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:39,430
S3: hand or accepting Jesus. It's really a cry of the soul.

997
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:42,070
S3: There's no patent prayer in Scripture that says, oh, pray

998
01:01:42,070 --> 01:01:45,250
S3: these magic words because it's a cry of soul. And

999
01:01:45,250 --> 01:01:48,610
S3: so if today is the day that your the blinders

1000
01:01:48,610 --> 01:01:50,490
S3: are down, and by the power of the Holy Spirit,

1001
01:01:50,530 --> 01:01:54,530
S3: he's revealed to you, I am a sinner. I've. I've

1002
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:58,689
S3: never had the the power to obey, even though I've

1003
01:01:58,690 --> 01:02:01,610
S3: had an inkling to obey because I've never repented. But

1004
01:02:01,610 --> 01:02:06,370
S3: today I'm turning around and surrendering all to Jesus. I

1005
01:02:06,370 --> 01:02:09,650
S3: just want you to text the word new because God's

1006
01:02:09,650 --> 01:02:12,850
S3: doing a miracle in your life today. He's taken a

1007
01:02:12,850 --> 01:02:16,570
S3: dead person and making them alive in Christ Jesus. So

1008
01:02:16,570 --> 01:02:19,090
S3: if that's you, just text the word new. We're going

1009
01:02:19,130 --> 01:02:23,050
S3: to keep moving on here with great truth. But text

1010
01:02:23,090 --> 01:02:26,330
S3: the word new. And now the word you hear make

1011
01:02:26,330 --> 01:02:32,650
S3: more sense than ever before. Text it to 800 555 78, 98.

1012
01:02:32,690 --> 01:02:40,490
S3: One word new to 800 555 7898. Wow. This is

1013
01:02:40,490 --> 01:02:46,120
S3: this beautiful believe follow and then interestingly build.

1014
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,600
S4: Listen, follow and build elaborate a little bit on that

1015
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,600
S4: last part. Susie Larson, our guest right now, because as

1016
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,320
S4: you mentioned, when we see in Luke 646 where we started,

1017
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,880
S4: it is quickly followed by 47 and 48, which talks

1018
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,800
S4: about the comparison to a man building a house who

1019
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,080
S4: digs deep, who lays the foundation on the rock. Take

1020
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,000
S4: it from there, Susie.

1021
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,120
S16: Well, I would challenge you to give you a little homework,

1022
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,680
S16: maybe spend some time in Psalm 145, because it tells

1023
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,000
S16: us over and over again to meditate on the majesty

1024
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,640
S16: of God, to think on his miracles, to give specific

1025
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,200
S16: examples of his power. And when you're building your life,

1026
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,760
S16: you literally are building an infrastructure in your soul, in

1027
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,080
S16: your brain and your belief system. My God is good.

1028
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,600
S16: His promises are true. His ways are higher and best.

1029
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,520
S16: I will follow his lead into his hands. I commit

1030
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,200
S16: my spirit. That requires an all in mentality, mind, body

1031
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,480
S16: and spirit. You're building your life. You're shifting all of

1032
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,000
S16: the weight onto God's promises and truth, and your life

1033
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,620
S16: will start to show for it when the storms come.

1034
01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:46,100
S16: Your house will stand and the storm will break. I'm

1035
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:49,540
S16: telling you, many Christians are living like practical atheists. But

1036
01:03:49,540 --> 01:03:51,500
S16: when you start to take a look and even an

1037
01:03:51,500 --> 01:03:54,220
S16: audit of your thoughts, of your belief system, even where

1038
01:03:54,220 --> 01:03:56,420
S16: your emotions take you, it shows you what you believe

1039
01:03:56,420 --> 01:03:57,100
S16: about God.

1040
01:03:57,140 --> 01:03:59,100
S4: I mean, it's so true, right? I mean, it's the

1041
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,900
S4: storm that tests the strength of the house, right? I mean,

1042
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:05,620
S4: because in calm weather, most of the houses look pretty similar.

1043
01:04:05,660 --> 01:04:06,460
S16: Exactly.

1044
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:08,700
S3: How do we get Susie? Because I'm back to what

1045
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:10,580
S3: you said at the start of this interview, and we're

1046
01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:11,820
S3: going to give you a link because some of you

1047
01:04:11,820 --> 01:04:14,620
S3: are like, I might have missed that first part without

1048
01:04:14,620 --> 01:04:17,260
S3: rehearsing everything that God had to do to get your

1049
01:04:17,260 --> 01:04:23,540
S3: mind aligned with the truth. How does that work? Right now,

1050
01:04:23,540 --> 01:04:27,380
S3: someone feels like I've had stinking thinking. I never used that.

1051
01:04:27,380 --> 01:04:31,060
S3: I've heard it before. I've had stinking thinking for years.

1052
01:04:31,060 --> 01:04:34,620
S3: And some people are the Holy Spirit's quickening them right

1053
01:04:34,620 --> 01:04:38,180
S3: now to realize, my goodness, I've not been a place

1054
01:04:38,180 --> 01:04:41,330
S3: of healing. My heart's not prepared for those truths. What

1055
01:04:41,330 --> 01:04:42,210
S3: do we do, Susie?

1056
01:04:42,570 --> 01:04:45,410
S16: I truly invite you and encourage you to back up

1057
01:04:45,410 --> 01:04:47,690
S16: from your emotions and ask yourself, what am I believing

1058
01:04:47,690 --> 01:04:50,290
S16: about God right now? I mean, because really, it's your

1059
01:04:50,290 --> 01:04:53,610
S16: beliefs that really impact how you walk. And so I

1060
01:04:53,610 --> 01:04:56,250
S16: would really take audit of those things and start to

1061
01:04:56,290 --> 01:04:59,650
S16: immerse yourself in the Word of God and truly stand

1062
01:04:59,650 --> 01:05:02,410
S16: on that truth until it feels true, where you make

1063
01:05:02,410 --> 01:05:04,610
S16: declarations over your life and this is not name it,

1064
01:05:04,610 --> 01:05:06,930
S16: claim it. I really mean it. I mean, for me,

1065
01:05:06,970 --> 01:05:09,210
S16: you know, again, I love the brain science, but they said,

1066
01:05:09,210 --> 01:05:11,970
S16: science has said the only way to interrupt rogue thoughts

1067
01:05:11,970 --> 01:05:14,210
S16: that take you into the ditch is when you're speaking.

1068
01:05:14,450 --> 01:05:17,610
S16: Now you apply that scripturally. Is the spoken word how

1069
01:05:17,610 --> 01:05:20,250
S16: powerful it is to say, you know what? No. My

1070
01:05:20,250 --> 01:05:23,090
S16: God is for me. Who can stand against me? You

1071
01:05:23,090 --> 01:05:26,290
S16: find a promise for your problem in Scripture, marinate in it,

1072
01:05:26,290 --> 01:05:29,130
S16: stand on it, build on it, and it will start

1073
01:05:29,130 --> 01:05:32,530
S16: to change your emotions, your perspective. And that literally is

1074
01:05:32,530 --> 01:05:35,170
S16: how you navigate the storms of life. But it takes

1075
01:05:35,170 --> 01:05:38,890
S16: application a daily application. I think we've reduced the gospel

1076
01:05:38,890 --> 01:05:40,990
S16: as you said to to a formula, you check the box,

1077
01:05:40,990 --> 01:05:43,950
S16: then you go on and do life like a practical atheist.

1078
01:05:43,950 --> 01:05:45,669
S16: And I'm just saying, when you get in and you

1079
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:49,150
S16: engage with God's Word and you stand on it, everything changes.

1080
01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:51,350
S3: We got numbers of people that have surrendered their life

1081
01:05:51,350 --> 01:05:53,750
S3: to Christ this morning. We might have time to acknowledge you,

1082
01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:56,390
S3: but here's what. Here's what I say. You said something

1083
01:05:56,670 --> 01:06:01,150
S3: and I am burning right now with this. Listen to me, boom. Crew.

1084
01:06:01,470 --> 01:06:07,150
S3: The spoken word of God is referred to 70 times

1085
01:06:07,150 --> 01:06:10,470
S3: in the New Testament. The Greek word is rhema. We

1086
01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:12,669
S3: don't talk Greek words all the time here, but this

1087
01:06:12,670 --> 01:06:16,830
S3: matters because this is not logos as in the word.

1088
01:06:17,030 --> 01:06:19,470
S3: And it's not to be trapped in our mind like

1089
01:06:19,470 --> 01:06:24,150
S3: some new form of eastern thought. No, it comes off

1090
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:27,950
S3: of our lips. Jesus did it, Susie. You know it well,

1091
01:06:27,950 --> 01:06:31,470
S3: coming out of the temptation he said, man shall not

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S3: live by bread alone, but by every rhema word spoken

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S3: from the mouth of God. That word is the spoken word.

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S3: Jesus did it by quoting Deuteronomy back to Satan, referred

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S3: to again in Ephesians six. Take up the sword of

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S3: the spirit. We have neglected getting off our lips the

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S3: truth that Jesus leveraged to get victory over Satan himself.

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S3: What's your comment, Susie?

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S16: Well, I might have mentioned this in a previous interview,

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S16: but I got a friend in a fight of her

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S16: life and she formed a little battle box, just a

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S16: little plastic box with recipe cards. Every time a rhema

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S16: word jumps off the page, she writes it on the

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S16: recipe card. And this is now her battle box. Every

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S16: single day she pulls those cards out of the box.

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S16: This is separate from her morning prayer time. Reading time.

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S16: She marches around her house so her ears hear her

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S16: mouth say, I will not die, but live and declare

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S16: the works of the Lord. He sent forth his word

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S16: to heal me and rescue me from the grave. You know,

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S16: the words in Scripture aren't any words like a normal

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S16: book of words. They are living, breathing, powerful, active. And

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S16: they move things. They change the atmosphere. We have got

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S16: to engage with His word, with our mouths, because that's

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S16: when our hearts and our minds start to align as well.

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S4: Susie Larson, our guest right now we want to connect

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S4: you to Susie has something daily blessings, among other things,

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S4: on our web, on her website. But if you want

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S4: to start practicing this, practicing this as we've described, this

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S4: is going to help you. So just text mind to

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S4: 800 555 7898. Text mind to 800 555 7898.

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S3: Oh, Susie, thank you for ducking in here, sister. This

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S3: is powerhouse and we're going to play this again. Hang on,

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S3: we'll tell you how to get it. If you haven't

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S3: gotten subscribed to our show cast. God's spirit had a

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S3: little diversion for us today and we're glad we took it.

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S3: But right now, grab this link for Susie. Text the

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S3: word mind to mind m I n d to 800

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S3: 555 7898 800 555 7898.