WEBVTT - Hour 1: The Supernatural World Around Us 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.800 Hi friend, thank you so much for downloading this podcast 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:06.920 and I truly hope you hear something that edifies encourage, equips, enlightens, 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.520 and then gets you out there in the marketplace of ideas. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.440 But before you go, I want to tell you about 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.680 this month's truth tool. It's called Have You Ever Wondered? 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.720 And I absolutely love this topic because if you're like me, 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.600 going out into the night sky and looking up and 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.439 seeing a million stars, don't you just stop and think 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.560 about God? And are you not in a moment of 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.960 awe and wonder or looking out over the vast expanse 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.600 of an ocean and you start thinking, what is man, 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:32.800 that thou art mindful of him? And it makes you 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.240 wonder about the magnificence of God? I think that sense 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.480 of wonder was put there on purpose, and this wonderful 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.720 book includes a composite of multiple authors who have written 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.879 from their perspective as a scientist, or a historian, or 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.160 a mathematician or an artist, on why they all have 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.599 this sense of awe through the work that they do. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.120 In other words, the heavens declare the glory. And as 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.440 it tells us in Romans, we are really without excuse 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:00.150 because his handiwork is everywhere. 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Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. 0:02:25.260 --> 0:02:27.420 A very happy Thursday to you. Thank you so much 0:02:27.419 --> 0:02:30.420 for spending the hour with us. Well, I do hope 0:02:30.419 --> 0:02:33.220 that as you spend time in the word and spend 0:02:33.220 --> 0:02:35.780 time at his feet, because we've been given permission to 0:02:35.820 --> 0:02:39.540 go just right there with the absolute authority from the 0:02:39.540 --> 0:02:42.140 King himself to enter into the throne of grace. I 0:02:42.139 --> 0:02:43.739 don't know about you, but that takes my breath away. 0:02:43.740 --> 0:02:45.620 I know I've met a lot of important people in 0:02:45.620 --> 0:02:46.940 my life. And let me tell you, the rules of 0:02:46.940 --> 0:02:51.380 deportment are generally you don't talk unless spoken to, you 0:02:51.380 --> 0:02:53.700 don't ask questions, you don't touch. The list goes on 0:02:53.700 --> 0:02:56.650 and on and on. I have yet to have any 0:02:56.650 --> 0:02:59.609 world leader ever say, you can come boldly into my 0:02:59.610 --> 0:03:02.210 office anytime you want to. And yet the king, the 0:03:02.210 --> 0:03:04.930 king of all creation, says just that. I hope you 0:03:04.930 --> 0:03:07.450 take him up on his invitation and spend time in 0:03:07.450 --> 0:03:09.810 his presence all day long. Not just when you put 0:03:09.810 --> 0:03:11.369 your head down at the pillow at night, but when 0:03:11.370 --> 0:03:13.889 you start your day an all day long. After all, 0:03:13.889 --> 0:03:16.650 prayer is nothing more and nothing less than the love 0:03:16.650 --> 0:03:19.490 language between two people who love each other. And I 0:03:19.490 --> 0:03:21.450 hope you're in constant communication with him. One of the 0:03:21.450 --> 0:03:22.850 things I talked to him about all the time was, 0:03:22.850 --> 0:03:26.650 what's going on in Israel? Now, remember, this has been 0:03:26.970 --> 0:03:30.010 this is Intel. There's no entity on planet Earth that 0:03:30.010 --> 0:03:31.890 has Intel. You haven't heard Bill gates say this earlier 0:03:31.889 --> 0:03:34.530 this week. There's no country on planet Earth that has 0:03:34.530 --> 0:03:37.650 the Intel capabilities than Israel. Better than the United States, 0:03:37.650 --> 0:03:40.530 bar none. And they have been watching and watching and watching. 0:03:40.530 --> 0:03:41.930 When you got a neighbor down the road, a piece 0:03:41.930 --> 0:03:43.370 who's saying, I'm going to blow you up, you're the 0:03:43.370 --> 0:03:46.250 little Satan. We've got nuclear capabilities. We're going to annihilate 0:03:46.250 --> 0:03:49.930 the Zionist regime. You can decide that they're calling Wolf, 0:03:49.930 --> 0:03:52.050 or you can decide that they're deadly serious. And then 0:03:52.090 --> 0:03:56.200 you plant some Mossad, as they did inside Iran. How's 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.720 that for chutzpah? Inside Iran. And they knew beyond a 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.120 shadow of a doubt that their nuclear capabilities were literally 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.760 inches away. They said, nope, got to strike now. But 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:09.200 this is not parallel warfare by any stretch of the imagination. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.760 With pinpoint precision goes after nuclear sites where the heavy 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:18.320 water is, etc. where the military jets are. Right now. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.320 Israel has domination in the air power part of this confrontation, 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.160 but they also do it with pinpoint specificity. That's not 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.240 what Iran does. That's not what Iran does. When you're 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:32.440 fomented by hate and blindness, spiritual blindness, you don't play 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.640 the same way. Here's Chris Mitchell from CBN news. Have 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:35.200 a listen. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:36.279 With. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.039 The Soroka Hospital in Beersheba took a direct hit. One 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.720 of the doctors there stated just yesterday we evacuated the 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.320 old surgical building that took a direct hit. Today. It's 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:55.109 a great miracle. As Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz put it, 0:04:55.110 --> 0:04:58.150 these are the most severe kinds of war crimes, and 0:04:58.150 --> 0:05:02.430 Khamenei will be held accountable for his crimes. Katz described 0:05:02.430 --> 0:05:08.510 Israel's new goal to destabilize the Ayatollah regime. Meanwhile, in Washington, 0:05:08.510 --> 0:05:12.110 President Trump has approved the Iran attack plans but is 0:05:12.110 --> 0:05:15.270 holding off on giving the orders, according to the Wall 0:05:15.270 --> 0:05:19.790 Street Journal. Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, Trump 0:05:19.790 --> 0:05:22.510 says he's not looking for a fight with Iran. 0:05:22.710 --> 0:05:26.350 But if it's a choice between fighting and them having 0:05:26.350 --> 0:05:28.350 a nuclear weapon, you have to you have to do 0:05:28.350 --> 0:05:31.110 what you have to do. We're not looking for a ceasefire. 0:05:31.110 --> 0:05:34.950 We're looking for a total, complete victory. Again, you know 0:05:34.950 --> 0:05:37.589 what the victory is no nuclear weapon. 0:05:38.150 --> 0:05:41.310 In an address to the nation Wednesday night, Israeli Prime 0:05:41.310 --> 0:05:45.630 Minister Benjamin Netanyahu thanked the president for standing by Israel 0:05:45.750 --> 0:05:48.630 and told Israelis the goals of the war. 0:05:50.029 --> 0:05:54.210 We've embarked on this operation to eliminate two existing threats 0:05:54.210 --> 0:05:56.690 to the State of Israel, the nuclear threat and the 0:05:56.690 --> 0:06:00.810 ballistic missile threat. We're moving step by step towards eliminating 0:06:00.810 --> 0:06:04.890 these threats. We control the skies over Tehran. We're striking 0:06:04.890 --> 0:06:09.130 the ayatollahs regime with tremendous force. We're striking the nuclear weapons, 0:06:09.130 --> 0:06:12.570 the missiles, the headquarters, the symbols of the regime. 0:06:12.850 --> 0:06:16.570 Despite the attacks, Ayatollah Khamenei remains defiant. 0:06:17.370 --> 0:06:17.890 Iran. 0:06:18.450 --> 0:06:21.729 The Iranian nation, will stand firmly against the war imposed 0:06:21.730 --> 0:06:23.849 on it, as it has done so far. It will 0:06:23.850 --> 0:06:28.050 also stand firmly against imposed peace. The Iranian nation will 0:06:28.050 --> 0:06:31.890 not surrender to anyone aiming to impose anything on it. 0:06:31.930 --> 0:06:36.289 Yet the Israel Defense Forces are now expanding their target list. 0:06:37.610 --> 0:06:40.970 During the strikes, we struck more than 20 targets around Tehran. 0:06:40.970 --> 0:06:45.130 These targets belong to the regime's military industries and security apparatus. 0:06:45.370 --> 0:06:49.610 That includes the regime's centers of power, Israeli Defense Minister 0:06:49.610 --> 0:06:53.240 Israel Katz told the Iranian people it's time to rise 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:57.640 up and overthrow Khamenei's regime, he said. Symbols of power 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.960 are being bombed and collapsing from the broadcasting authority and 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:06.240 soon other targets as masses of residents flee. This is 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:12.160 how dictatorships fall. Iranian American journalist Lisa Vitari tells CBN's 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.560 Raj Nair the people of Iran have long endured a 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:16.960 brutal dictatorship. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.160 This is not just since October 7th. This is not 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.960 just since Friday. This is something that has been building 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.600 up in the Iranian people for 46 years. They are 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.680 sick and tired of it. You know, to see someone 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:31.000 who is hanged because of a Facebook post or because 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.640 they are a journalist or an athlete or a dancer, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.760 this is the life and the reality that they have 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:37.520 been living. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:42.120 Earlier this week, Netanyahu told Israeli Channel 14 history is 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:43.160 being made. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:48.760 That we are at a historic turning point and everyone 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.750 is slowly turning to realize it after victory over Iran. 0:07:52.790 --> 0:07:54.790 A new Middle East will emerge. 0:07:54.830 --> 0:07:57.230 Chris Mitchell CBN news, Jerusalem. 0:07:57.390 --> 0:08:00.030 I want to pick up on that last point after 0:08:00.030 --> 0:08:03.910 victory over Iran. A new Middle East will emerge now. 0:08:03.950 --> 0:08:07.830 I spent some time yesterday with a retired IDF officer 0:08:08.190 --> 0:08:10.750 who gave me a briefing on what is happening, and 0:08:10.750 --> 0:08:13.310 I thought his perspective on this was crucial enough for 0:08:13.310 --> 0:08:15.310 me to want to share it with you. And I 0:08:15.310 --> 0:08:18.110 think it's important because this is how we counter being 0:08:18.110 --> 0:08:20.310 good Bereans. Some of the things you're hearing in the 0:08:20.310 --> 0:08:25.030 press that are fomented by spiritual hatred, spiritual blindness, and 0:08:25.030 --> 0:08:27.630 an animus toward the Jewish people. So it's important that 0:08:27.630 --> 0:08:30.790 we get the facts. First of all, Israel is right now, 0:08:30.790 --> 0:08:33.750 whether it's talked about on the alphabet soup networks or not, 0:08:33.790 --> 0:08:37.390 Israel is shaping the future of the Middle East. It 0:08:37.390 --> 0:08:41.829 is why we've got protection in the air in Syria 0:08:41.830 --> 0:08:45.070 and in Lebanon and in Saudi Arabia. All of those 0:08:45.070 --> 0:08:48.500 countries think that Iran is a problematic nation. You get 0:08:48.500 --> 0:08:50.579 rid of them, you take care of them. And if 0:08:50.620 --> 0:08:55.060 Iran's nuclear capabilities were eliminated, that would completely change the dynamic. 0:08:55.059 --> 0:08:57.860 One of the princes in Saudi Arabia said, look, if 0:08:57.860 --> 0:09:00.340 they say that they have nuclear capability, we're going to 0:09:00.340 --> 0:09:01.860 have to take them at their word and then we're 0:09:01.860 --> 0:09:04.460 going to get nuclear capability. So a couple of other 0:09:04.460 --> 0:09:08.300 things right now, there are still 5000 hostages. 20 are 0:09:08.300 --> 0:09:11.620 presumed to be alive. Israel at this point does have 0:09:11.620 --> 0:09:16.140 air superiority. Iran needs launchers to be able to fire 0:09:16.140 --> 0:09:19.540 off their missiles, and their launchers are being destroyed as 0:09:19.540 --> 0:09:22.219 we speak. So that's causing a problem. By the way, 0:09:22.260 --> 0:09:24.980 more than a third of Iran's missiles are already gone. 0:09:25.020 --> 0:09:27.459 There's a shortage of cash as a result of what's 0:09:27.460 --> 0:09:30.620 been going on, and that's helping to create civil unrest, 0:09:30.620 --> 0:09:32.939 which is a blessing, because if the people want to 0:09:32.980 --> 0:09:35.860 overthrow the Ayatollah and you just heard that in the story, 0:09:35.860 --> 0:09:37.660 this might be the moment to be able to do 0:09:37.700 --> 0:09:39.660 just that. By the way, if you hear a Western 0:09:39.660 --> 0:09:43.260 journalist say Israel is targeting journalists, that building, by the way, 0:09:43.260 --> 0:09:45.819 where that person in the hijab was there when the 0:09:45.860 --> 0:09:49.250 bomb was dropped. That is the propaganda center for Iran. 0:09:49.250 --> 0:09:51.930 It is not about journalism. They call it the execution 0:09:51.929 --> 0:10:01.050 network because they broadcast executions back after this. So many 0:10:01.050 --> 0:10:04.610 in our culture today are spiritually curious but hesitant about religion. 0:10:04.610 --> 0:10:06.890 That's why I've chosen. Have you ever wondered is this 0:10:06.890 --> 0:10:10.449 month's truth tool explore how everyday experiences might be the 0:10:10.450 --> 0:10:13.890 signpost pointing to deeper biblical truths. As for your copy 0:10:13.890 --> 0:10:15.730 of have you ever wondered when you give a gift 0:10:15.730 --> 0:10:19.410 of any amount to in the market, call eight 7758, 0:10:19.450 --> 0:10:22.969 that's eight 7758 or go to in the market with 0:10:22.970 --> 0:10:23.730 Janet Parshall. 0:10:27.530 --> 0:10:32.610 All people fundamentally within their DNA, within their very makeup, 0:10:32.970 --> 0:10:36.890 have a belief in the supernatural that which is beyond nature, 0:10:36.890 --> 0:10:39.930 that which is beyond merely the collision of atoms, as 0:10:39.929 --> 0:10:41.609 it were, in our everyday lives. 0:10:41.809 --> 0:10:45.319 I don't think we should fear looking at phenomena, I 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.560 think we should look at them on their own terms, 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.640 analyze them very carefully and very critically, and see what's there. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:56.080 And explicitly. The worry of scientific naturalists is that this 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.040 is going to thrust us back into the dark ages. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.120 A lot of skeptics will say, well, miracles are impossible. Why? 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.800 Because they violate the laws of nature. You can't violate 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:06.880 the laws of nature. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.320 People would pray for me, and sometimes it felt like 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.880 this power that just zapped me. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.880 When I woke up. She says, can you do anything 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.800 that you didn't do before? I looked at my hand 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.160 that was clutched. I said, hand move! 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:21.480 Oh my goodness. 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.960 Another doctor came in and he said, what is going 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.760 on in here? He's dead. It's over. I said, shock 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.640 him one more time. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.360 Well, maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't. Let's look at 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:35.120 the evidence. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.800 And that's exactly what Billy Hallowell does in his brand 0:11:42.950 --> 0:11:48.590 new spectacular documentary called Investigating the Supernatural, and he takes 0:11:48.590 --> 0:11:51.270 a look at miracles. When you watch this, you may 0:11:51.270 --> 0:11:53.630 be starting from the position of a skeptic, but I 0:11:53.670 --> 0:11:56.230 guarantee you by the time this is over, you're going 0:11:56.270 --> 0:11:58.670 to have to ask yourself a lot of questions about 0:11:58.710 --> 0:12:01.670 is Aslan still on the move today? By the way, 0:12:01.830 --> 0:12:04.230 this documentary is peppered with some of our best friends. 0:12:04.230 --> 0:12:06.069 Lee Strobel is in there. You just heard Doctor Sam 0:12:06.070 --> 0:12:08.150 Storms talking as well. In fact, I want you to 0:12:08.150 --> 0:12:11.069 hear one more little bit of the documentary. Take a listen. 0:12:11.110 --> 0:12:16.390 According to a recent poll, 80% of people in the U.S. 0:12:16.429 --> 0:12:22.309 believe in a supernatural dimension to reality. But sometimes it 0:12:22.309 --> 0:12:26.030 feels like it's 80% who don't believe in it. And 0:12:26.030 --> 0:12:28.590 I think part of that is in terms of the 0:12:28.590 --> 0:12:33.069 dominant culture, which comes partly out of academia. 0:12:33.110 --> 0:12:36.430 Colleges and universities have been co-opted by a kind of 0:12:36.470 --> 0:12:42.420 scientific materialism or naturalism, which teaches that all that there 0:12:42.420 --> 0:12:44.700 is is what we can touch and what we can 0:12:44.700 --> 0:12:48.059 feel and what we can see and experience. Science is 0:12:48.059 --> 0:12:50.460 the determiner of what is true and what is false. 0:12:51.380 --> 0:12:52.100 But the truth. 0:12:52.100 --> 0:12:57.260 Is, there is a conflict between what the world proposes 0:12:57.260 --> 0:13:00.780 they believe and what they actually believe. When you really 0:13:00.780 --> 0:13:03.059 ask deep questions or you look at the way that 0:13:03.059 --> 0:13:07.420 people behave, it's very clear that within all people there 0:13:07.420 --> 0:13:09.660 is a sense that there is something more. 0:13:10.340 --> 0:13:13.820 I did a scientific survey of American adults and I 0:13:13.820 --> 0:13:16.020 asked the question, have you ever had at least one 0:13:16.020 --> 0:13:19.900 incident in your life that you can only explain as 0:13:19.900 --> 0:13:25.140 a miracle of God? And 38% of American adults said yes. 0:13:25.140 --> 0:13:30.580 So almost four out of ten. Now you extrapolate that number. 0:13:30.580 --> 0:13:34.740 That would mean there is almost 100 million miracles just 0:13:34.740 --> 0:13:40.059 in America. Now, let's say 99% of them are wrong. 0:13:40.170 --> 0:13:42.689 Let's just throw out 99% and say no. It was 0:13:42.690 --> 0:13:46.130 just a huge coincidence. So let's throw those out. That 0:13:46.130 --> 0:13:50.370 still leaves a million miracles having taken place just in 0:13:50.370 --> 0:13:51.970 the context of our continent. 0:13:53.410 --> 0:13:55.770 When you've got that many people claiming those things, you 0:13:55.770 --> 0:14:01.170 can't start with the premise that uniform human experience excludes miracles. 0:14:02.450 --> 0:14:04.569 Now, do I have your attention? You are so going 0:14:04.570 --> 0:14:08.690 to want to watch this. It's called investigating the supernatural miracles. 0:14:08.690 --> 0:14:11.130 I've got a link on my information page so that 0:14:11.130 --> 0:14:12.969 you can click on through and discover how you can 0:14:12.970 --> 0:14:14.410 watch it. But in the meantime, I'm going to spend 0:14:14.410 --> 0:14:17.530 some time with Billy. Billy Hallowell is a journalist, a commentator, 0:14:17.570 --> 0:14:20.970 a digital TV host. He has covered thousands of huge 0:14:20.970 --> 0:14:24.330 stories dealing with faith and culture. He has written tens 0:14:24.330 --> 0:14:27.410 of thousands of stories on faith, culture and politics. And 0:14:27.410 --> 0:14:29.210 by the way, he's the author of four books, playing 0:14:29.210 --> 0:14:32.850 with Fire a modern investigation into demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts 0:14:32.850 --> 0:14:36.290 The Armageddon Code one Journalist's Quest for End Times answers 0:14:36.290 --> 0:14:39.000 Fault Line how a seismic shift in culture is threatening 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.960 free speech and shaping the next generation, and left standing 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.600 the miraculous story of how Mason Wells faith survived the Boston, 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.480 Paris and Brussels terrorist attack. The list goes on and 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.960 on and on right now. He is currently working with 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:55.040 CBN News and Faithwire and Billy boy. God's anointed you 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.880 you know how to tell a good story and chase 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.200 one down. But what I love about this in particular 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.920 is you start out where I think an overwhelming majority 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.200 of people will start when they watch this documentary, which is, um, 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.880 not so much. Maybe I read it in scripture. I'm 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.000 not so sure it's happening today. So I'm going to 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:12.800 quest this. You know, one of the old adages we 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.200 have in journalism is you have to have independent verification, right? 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.560 And so you decided to pursue this, but you started 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.520 out as a skeptic. Tell me about why you wanted 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:21.800 to do this documentary. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.080 You know, I love that you're starting there because I 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.080 think a lot of us, we'll even say that we 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.400 believe in our minds, right? We'll say, okay, I believe, 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.320 I believe, I read it in Scripture, I know it happened, 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.920 but I'm not really quite sure if it happens today. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:36.680 Or you know what? Maybe I don't even care if 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.830 it happens today because I don't want to commit to it, 0:15:38.830 --> 0:15:40.590 so I'm not going to think about it. And I 0:15:40.590 --> 0:15:43.030 think that's where I sort of was. I would have 0:15:43.030 --> 0:15:45.670 said I believed, but I hadn't really experienced anything in 0:15:45.670 --> 0:15:48.230 my heart that would have led me to that place. 0:15:48.270 --> 0:15:51.350 And so when it came to different projects that were 0:15:51.350 --> 0:15:54.990 coming up with with CBN Christian Broadcasting Network, we I 0:15:54.990 --> 0:15:58.350 pitched some ideas and we were just talking. And really 0:15:58.390 --> 0:16:00.430 I know we say this a lot in the faith space, 0:16:00.430 --> 0:16:02.030 but it really was a God thing. I mean he 0:16:02.030 --> 0:16:04.710 just opened doors within a couple of weeks. I mean, 0:16:04.750 --> 0:16:07.070 this doesn't normally happen. Within a couple of weeks, we 0:16:07.070 --> 0:16:10.150 were greenlit to do a TV series, which is not 0:16:10.150 --> 0:16:11.870 what we ended up doing. We were going to do 0:16:11.870 --> 0:16:15.270 a three part TV series on Angels and Demons, Heaven 0:16:15.270 --> 0:16:19.110 and Hell and miracles, and we started out going into 0:16:19.110 --> 0:16:21.870 the field and starting with miracles, and as soon as 0:16:21.870 --> 0:16:25.230 we got into it, it was immediately apparent that we 0:16:25.230 --> 0:16:28.990 could not tell a true miracle story in 30 minutes 0:16:28.990 --> 0:16:31.630 that we needed a full film. And so this project 0:16:31.630 --> 0:16:35.270 morphed very quickly. Again, total God thing into a documentary 0:16:35.340 --> 0:16:36.620 film series. 0:16:36.620 --> 0:16:38.340 Wow. And I want to talk about some of the 0:16:38.340 --> 0:16:40.020 miracles in there. I'm not going to give it all away. 0:16:40.020 --> 0:16:41.700 I want you to watch it. But I'm telling you. 0:16:41.700 --> 0:16:43.460 By the way, can I just tell you the craftsmanship, 0:16:43.460 --> 0:16:45.660 the way that I'm not surprised? This is CBN everything 0:16:45.660 --> 0:16:48.780 is five star but the the production values on this. 0:16:48.780 --> 0:16:51.420 The research the cinematography the way the arc of the 0:16:51.420 --> 0:16:55.300 story is told it is absolutely riveting. Again it's called 0:16:55.300 --> 0:16:58.820 investigating the supernatural miracles. And I have a link on 0:16:58.820 --> 0:17:00.820 my page Billy when we come back, the first question 0:17:00.820 --> 0:17:02.420 I want to ask you is I want to talk 0:17:02.420 --> 0:17:05.020 about you. How did this change you as a human being? 0:17:05.020 --> 0:17:08.980 Because you may have been the investigator, but you were not. 0:17:09.220 --> 0:17:11.619 You were not a totally neutral position. You walked in, 0:17:11.660 --> 0:17:14.340 as you just said, kind of questioning like the overwhelming 0:17:14.340 --> 0:17:16.300 majority of us do. But I want to know if 0:17:16.300 --> 0:17:18.739 this documentary changed you personally, and then we're going to 0:17:18.740 --> 0:17:20.939 tease a little bit a couple of the miracle stories 0:17:20.940 --> 0:17:22.340 that are in this, because I'm going to tell you 0:17:22.340 --> 0:17:25.620 what he's God, we're not. His thoughts are far above us. 0:17:25.619 --> 0:17:27.980 His ways are not our ways. I'm never going to 0:17:27.980 --> 0:17:30.220 put God in a box. And do I believe he's 0:17:30.220 --> 0:17:34.440 a miracle working God? Oh yes indeed. Deed much more 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:35.080 after this. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.879 The question of why God does miracles in some cases 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.680 and doesn't do them in others is not just an 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:08.640 intellectual challenge. It is a personal issue to people who suffer. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.880 And I think there are several ways to look at it. 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.640 If God healed everybody now who asked him? People would 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:19.320 become Christians just to get the benefit. That's not what 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.119 following Jesus is about. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.119 You know, God is not a vending machine that we 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.800 put in a certain prescribed prayer and he automatically heals. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.720 He is sovereign. He understands things that we don't understand. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.750 He sees things that we don't see. 0:18:32.790 --> 0:18:37.270 Maybe God wants to use that particular affliction, disease, or 0:18:37.270 --> 0:18:40.790 your suffering to accomplish something in you that in his 0:18:40.790 --> 0:18:44.990 infinite wisdom he knows can only be achieved as you 0:18:44.990 --> 0:18:48.710 respond to your pain and your suffering by ever increasing 0:18:48.710 --> 0:18:50.150 dependence upon him. 0:18:50.350 --> 0:18:54.469 Here's a different take on this because God intervenes at 0:18:54.510 --> 0:18:56.430 times we think, well, then he can always intervene whenever 0:18:56.430 --> 0:18:58.950 he wants. But the reason we can't ever make sense 0:18:58.950 --> 0:19:00.870 out of what he does or when he doesn't, is 0:19:00.869 --> 0:19:03.150 because there's a whole lot else going on in this 0:19:03.150 --> 0:19:06.869 cosmos that we don't know about, the myriads of myriads 0:19:06.869 --> 0:19:09.230 of angelic beings that are in that heavenly realm. They 0:19:09.230 --> 0:19:12.389 all make decisions and, well, I don't know much of 0:19:12.390 --> 0:19:14.830 what goes on up there. I know that sometimes those 0:19:14.830 --> 0:19:17.910 decisions affect what goes on down, what goes on down here. 0:19:18.190 --> 0:19:22.710 And so if God doesn't intervene, it seems like it 0:19:22.710 --> 0:19:24.950 would have been good to I have to assume that 0:19:24.990 --> 0:19:27.390 there's there's something's blocking that. 0:19:27.430 --> 0:19:31.030 You know, in the final analysis, I go to Romans 828. 0:19:31.740 --> 0:19:34.020 There we are told that God causes all things to 0:19:34.060 --> 0:19:36.699 work together for my good. If I'm called according to 0:19:36.740 --> 0:19:38.140 his purpose and if I love him. 0:19:38.140 --> 0:19:40.660 Some people will say, well, my suffering is too much. 0:19:40.660 --> 0:19:43.260 God can't possibly in this world or the next cause, 0:19:43.300 --> 0:19:46.179 good to emerge from my suffering. To which I say, 0:19:47.380 --> 0:19:50.700 God has taken the worst possible thing that has ever 0:19:50.700 --> 0:19:53.699 happened in the universe, which is the death of the 0:19:53.700 --> 0:19:56.060 Son of God on a cross. And out of that 0:19:56.060 --> 0:19:58.379 he has created the best thing that's ever happened in 0:19:58.380 --> 0:20:00.619 the universe, which is the opening of heaven to all 0:20:00.619 --> 0:20:03.260 who follow him. So if God can take the worst 0:20:03.260 --> 0:20:05.020 thing in the universe and turn it into the best 0:20:05.020 --> 0:20:08.740 thing in the universe, he can even redeem our suffering 0:20:08.740 --> 0:20:11.620 in this world or the next and draw good from it. 0:20:12.220 --> 0:20:14.300 Amen. You know, I have to tell you, what I 0:20:14.300 --> 0:20:18.180 find so important about this documentary is not just the 0:20:18.180 --> 0:20:21.580 aspect that it's investigating the supernatural as it manifests itself 0:20:21.580 --> 0:20:24.660 in miracles. It forces every one of us to have 0:20:24.660 --> 0:20:26.700 to deal with the question of suffering. And that's something 0:20:26.700 --> 0:20:29.140 we've dealt with since we walked out of the garden. 0:20:29.140 --> 0:20:32.730 And this really also speaks to how we see God, 0:20:32.730 --> 0:20:35.129 how we view the character of God, the wisdom of 0:20:35.130 --> 0:20:37.210 both Lee and Sam in that clip that you just 0:20:37.210 --> 0:20:40.290 heard all things working together for good. We think it 0:20:40.290 --> 0:20:42.010 means it all has to turn out good as we 0:20:42.050 --> 0:20:43.850 define it. No, no, no, no, that's not what that 0:20:43.850 --> 0:20:47.010 verse means. It means that in God's good and perfect will, 0:20:47.050 --> 0:20:49.609 he will make sure that what needs to be done 0:20:49.609 --> 0:20:52.490 will be done. As we are being conformed to, transformed 0:20:52.490 --> 0:20:55.090 to the image of Christ. Billy Hallowell is the brains 0:20:55.090 --> 0:20:58.850 behind this new documentary investigating the supernatural miracles. He is 0:20:58.850 --> 0:21:02.090 a superb creator of content. He is a journalist, a 0:21:02.090 --> 0:21:05.290 commentator and a digital TV host. So my question for 0:21:05.290 --> 0:21:07.889 you personally, it's real easy to say it's subjective. I'm 0:21:07.890 --> 0:21:09.490 going to keep it all in arm's reach. You were 0:21:09.490 --> 0:21:12.330 deeply immersed in all of this. Did it change you, Billy, 0:21:12.330 --> 0:21:13.250 and your beliefs? 0:21:14.090 --> 0:21:16.850 Oh, absolutely. And I can't stop talking about it. I 0:21:16.850 --> 0:21:20.290 actually haven't been able to stop thinking about it. Um, honestly, 0:21:20.330 --> 0:21:22.929 you know, this has been. It's been such an amazing experience. 0:21:22.930 --> 0:21:25.330 I thought going into it, we're going to create this documentary. 0:21:25.330 --> 0:21:28.679 It's going to hopefully inspire people to to see, you know, 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.720 they're going to be presented with information. They can make 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:34.240 a decision on what they believe. But selfishly, I walked 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:38.320 away from it. Deeply changed, really. It kind of obliterated 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.600 everything I thought I knew, you know, all of these things. 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.760 I thought I knew about miracles and, you know, really, 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:46.880 it forced me, just like you were just saying, to 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.920 ask all the same questions. And I think the biggest question, 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.359 and this is what I'm still processing, am I experiencing 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:56.720 everything that God has for us? Am I open to it? 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.240 Have I been have I been too quick to maybe 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.640 dismiss certain elements of the supernatural? You know, we throw 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.840 that word around. Supernatural. I'm reading the Bible. I read 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:07.760 the Bible every year. The last couple of years. I 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:09.879 read through the whole entire thing. And I'm focusing right 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:13.000 now just on the New Testament this year and every 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.600 page the supernatural now is popping off the page at me. 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.639 And it's so funny because in the past I would 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:20.719 have read it and I would have just kind of 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.360 kept going. And now I'm pausing and I'm pondering and 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:26.560 I'm wondering, you know, what? What is still happening today 0:22:26.670 --> 0:22:28.670 and what is not. And I think that's a big 0:22:28.670 --> 0:22:32.270 question that the church is grappling with right now. And 0:22:32.270 --> 0:22:34.590 a lot of people have decided, well, it's all dead. 0:22:34.590 --> 0:22:37.630 It's not happening. And I think the evidence really is 0:22:37.630 --> 0:22:40.390 on the other side of that, that that things are happening, 0:22:40.390 --> 0:22:43.790 that people are being healed. But to your point, there's 0:22:43.790 --> 0:22:47.990 still pain. Even Lazarus died again, right? So, you know, 0:22:48.190 --> 0:22:50.830 the miracles run out at some point. But but that 0:22:50.830 --> 0:22:52.310 doesn't mean they're not happening. 0:22:52.350 --> 0:22:55.590 Amen. And Brother Paul asked for that thorn to be removed, 0:22:55.590 --> 0:22:58.870 and it was not. So I think this really is 0:22:58.869 --> 0:23:01.310 so important, Billy. Not just because we're all, hey, look, 0:23:01.310 --> 0:23:03.870 we love touched by an angel who doesn't love miracle stories. 0:23:03.869 --> 0:23:06.230 But the reality is this goes much deeper because it 0:23:06.230 --> 0:23:08.429 really does go to the core question of suffering. And 0:23:08.430 --> 0:23:11.109 who is God and why? Why does he allow fill 0:23:11.109 --> 0:23:12.990 in the blank? And why didn't he do fill in 0:23:12.990 --> 0:23:15.070 the blank? And I think this is going to cause 0:23:15.070 --> 0:23:17.310 some spiritual growth as a result of this. The other 0:23:17.310 --> 0:23:19.869 thing too, is the people that you got with credentials, 0:23:19.869 --> 0:23:22.990 you have neuroscientists, you have people who got their education 0:23:22.990 --> 0:23:25.420 at Harvard. You have people the husband and wife team 0:23:25.420 --> 0:23:30.260 in Indiana are absolutely amazing, doing objective empirical studies on 0:23:30.260 --> 0:23:33.179 this where they've got the Sanhedrin of the medicine world 0:23:33.180 --> 0:23:36.380 looking at this going, something's going on. Am I right 0:23:36.380 --> 0:23:37.220 about that? 0:23:37.300 --> 0:23:39.820 You're 100% right. And I think that was so important 0:23:39.820 --> 0:23:43.340 to us going into this, because, look, faith is about faith. 0:23:43.380 --> 0:23:46.780 You know, it's not all. Even if you can prove 0:23:46.780 --> 0:23:49.180 and I think you can you can get 98% of 0:23:49.180 --> 0:23:51.219 the way there proving that a miracle happened. Right? You 0:23:51.220 --> 0:23:53.540 get to a place where you say there's no other explanation. 0:23:53.540 --> 0:23:55.619 And I think the miracles we show in the film, 0:23:55.619 --> 0:23:59.060 I have not had one atheist, agnostic, or skeptical Christian 0:23:59.060 --> 0:24:01.700 who doesn't believe in miracles come to me and say, 0:24:01.700 --> 0:24:03.820 here's another explanation. They don't have them. 0:24:04.060 --> 0:24:05.899 But but it requires faith. 0:24:06.380 --> 0:24:06.780 It requires. 0:24:06.780 --> 0:24:10.420 100%. Yep. And I love Lee Strobel's example about prove 0:24:10.420 --> 0:24:12.780 me your name. And if you don't know what that means, 0:24:12.780 --> 0:24:14.939 get the DVD. All right. Which takes me to how 0:24:14.940 --> 0:24:16.700 exactly you can watch this. So I have a link 0:24:16.859 --> 0:24:19.740 on my website on the information page, right under the 0:24:19.780 --> 0:24:21.939 definition of the two hours we do every day, you're 0:24:21.940 --> 0:24:24.170 going to see a red box. It says Program details 0:24:24.170 --> 0:24:26.210 and audio. Click then on takes you to the info page. 0:24:26.330 --> 0:24:28.050 I have a hot link. Turn it on. You can 0:24:28.050 --> 0:24:31.050 either order the DVD or you can watch it streaming. 0:24:31.050 --> 0:24:33.129 But either way, do it. And can I tell you 0:24:33.130 --> 0:24:36.050 something else? Don't do it by yourself. Invite a skeptic, 0:24:36.050 --> 0:24:38.850 someone who doesn't yet know Jesus as their personal savior, 0:24:38.850 --> 0:24:41.410 because this is going to start a conversation that could 0:24:41.410 --> 0:24:46.330 have eternal consequences. Billy. Let's talk again soon. Absolutely. Outstanding 0:24:46.330 --> 0:25:17.970 documentary back after this, friends. Oh, even if you've never 0:25:17.970 --> 0:25:19.490 been on the back of a horse, does that not 0:25:19.490 --> 0:25:21.850 make your heart race just a little bit faster? And 0:25:21.850 --> 0:25:24.280 could you not feel the snorting from his nostrils on 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.480 the back of your neck? And can you not smell 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.359 the leather of the saddle? Boy, I tell you what, 0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:30.240 I love horse stories. And that's why I love the 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.760 writings of Rebecca. And she's got a new book out 0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:37.080 called Great Horse Stories Wisdom and Humor from our Majestic Friends. 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.840 And I love the fact that Rebecca, who spent 15 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:41.800 years doing ranch work. And by the way, you know 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:45.200 anything about running a ranch? Wow. You don't punch a clock. 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.760 It's every single day. You got to turn them out. 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.399 You got to bring them in. You muck the stalls, 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.000 you feed them, you water them, you nurse them, you 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.480 baby them, you deliver them. And in addition to all 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.880 of that, she was guiding some pack trips. She also 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.120 worked as a wilderness ranger. What an awesome job. And 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.920 she's the author of several Christian books about horses and 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.800 the West. And she's won all kinds of writing competitions, 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.760 so it wouldn't it would be a full life just 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:08.320 to be on the back of a horse and to 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.679 do all the ranch work. But then God makes you 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.000 a writer. So then she blends these two together, and 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:16.040 she teaches about our relationship with the Lord by taking 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.880 a look at horses. Just amazing stuff. And I'm going 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:26.830 to let you jump in at any time. Friends at 1877548367518775483675. Rebecca, 0:26:26.830 --> 0:26:28.550 I think I've asked you this before. And by the way, 0:26:28.550 --> 0:26:30.590 I treasure every single time I get to spend time 0:26:30.590 --> 0:26:32.910 with you. How old were you when you first fell 0:26:32.910 --> 0:26:33.990 in love with horses? 0:26:34.869 --> 0:26:38.150 Oh, I think it happened in my DNA from God. 0:26:38.670 --> 0:26:43.510 It had to have. I think my first word was 0:26:43.510 --> 0:26:47.030 probably horse, to my mother's dismay. But I've always had 0:26:47.030 --> 0:26:49.830 a fascination with horses, haven't you? Janet, I know you're 0:26:49.830 --> 0:26:50.670 a horse lover. 0:26:51.030 --> 0:26:54.270 Mhm. Mhm. And it just, you know, it's amazing. In fact, 0:26:54.270 --> 0:26:57.230 I was just spending time with a mare this morning, 0:26:57.230 --> 0:26:59.950 an eight year old mare who had had some very 0:26:59.950 --> 0:27:02.830 rough handling, and it was so obvious that she looked 0:27:02.830 --> 0:27:05.270 at human beings and thought, are you someone who can 0:27:05.270 --> 0:27:07.470 be trusted, or do I have to fear all of you? 0:27:07.750 --> 0:27:09.430 And as I just walked with her for a while 0:27:09.430 --> 0:27:11.230 and loved on her neck, you could see her eyes 0:27:11.270 --> 0:27:13.830 soften and her pace slow down, and then she'd start 0:27:13.830 --> 0:27:15.830 to rub the back of my neck and I thought, wow, 0:27:15.830 --> 0:27:17.990 what a picture of learning to trust God and feeling 0:27:17.990 --> 0:27:20.700 safe in his arms. I mean, that's what you write about. 0:27:20.700 --> 0:27:23.020 You see it. And I even think you have to 0:27:23.020 --> 0:27:25.740 have a background in horses. You just see that idea. 0:27:25.740 --> 0:27:28.380 And isn't it cool that God writes so much about 0:27:28.380 --> 0:27:30.899 horses in Scripture, talks about the bit and the bridle, 0:27:30.900 --> 0:27:32.740 and that says a lot about us, doesn't it? 0:27:33.859 --> 0:27:36.500 Yes it does. But the best part is we get 0:27:36.500 --> 0:27:38.060 to come back on horses. 0:27:38.619 --> 0:27:42.700 Yes, yes. And that Jesus is a writer. That Jesus 0:27:42.740 --> 0:27:44.500 is a writer. Don't you love that? 0:27:44.940 --> 0:27:45.460 Yes. 0:27:46.859 --> 0:27:49.980 I'm so glad. So I think that it was important 0:27:49.980 --> 0:27:52.140 to remember that he came in on a donkey. But 0:27:52.180 --> 0:27:54.419 he's coming back on a horse, which tells me something 0:27:54.420 --> 0:27:56.820 about the place that horses have in the heart of Jesus. 0:27:56.820 --> 0:27:58.899 By the way, I want you to tell me about 0:27:58.900 --> 0:28:01.020 Wind Dancer, and I'd love for you to explain to 0:28:01.020 --> 0:28:03.940 our friends what's the difference between a donkey and a mule? 0:28:03.980 --> 0:28:06.260 Because I bet some folks listening don't know the difference. 0:28:06.900 --> 0:28:09.300 Oh my gosh, there is a huge difference because they're 0:28:09.300 --> 0:28:12.500 actually different species with different number of chromosomes. And I 0:28:12.500 --> 0:28:15.900 don't know the exact numbers, but a mule is a 0:28:15.940 --> 0:28:20.440 horse mom and a donkey, dad. And it's a hybrid 0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.359 animal that's made from those two species. Because a mule 0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:27.240 is usually sterile and can't be bred. Wind dancer is 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.960 a mule that I was blessed enough to own a mare, 0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:35.800 and through a tumultuous relationship, a breeder lied to me, 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.920 a trainer lied to me, and I brought a bought 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.720 a horse who had been vet checked and it turned 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:44.120 out she had had a broken hind leg. And um, 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:48.560 so that actually those stories are coming up in, um, 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:54.400 another book. However, God redeemed that situation by giving me 0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.520 the idea to breed this mare and get a mule. 0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.080 And so Wind Dancer is a mule out of that 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.239 Tennessee walk and mare out of a gaited jack, and 0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.880 I'm going to hopefully be riding her this year. She 0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.200 is a ham. She loves people because I talked to 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.120 her in the womb every day from the day she 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:12.080 was conceived. 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.760 Wow. And you say that she recognizes your voice right away. 0:29:16.470 --> 0:29:17.230 She does. 0:29:18.110 --> 0:29:18.910 She knows. 0:29:19.510 --> 0:29:22.310 She knows who I am. Just like we. Just like 0:29:22.310 --> 0:29:26.230 we recognize God's voice in our spirit. It's a it's 0:29:26.230 --> 0:29:29.270 an amazing. It's a relationship. It's a communication between the 0:29:29.270 --> 0:29:31.270 two of us. Just like our relationship with God is 0:29:31.270 --> 0:29:33.870 a communication between the two of us, between God and I. 0:29:33.870 --> 0:29:35.790 I'm not doing all the talking. God's not doing all 0:29:35.790 --> 0:29:37.990 the talking. But we work together. 0:29:38.470 --> 0:29:41.710 Wow. Wow. Well, speaking of God and talking, that leads 0:29:41.710 --> 0:29:43.390 me to prayer. And I want you to tell our 0:29:43.390 --> 0:29:47.110 friends about Skysong, because I can just picture you doing 0:29:47.110 --> 0:29:48.830 what you say you love to do on the back 0:29:48.830 --> 0:29:51.590 of Skysong, which is talking to the Lord. Some people 0:29:51.590 --> 0:29:53.670 are going talking to the Lord. I'm hanging on for 0:29:53.670 --> 0:29:55.670 dear life. How can you possibly be praying at the 0:29:55.670 --> 0:29:59.070 same time? But that's your favorite place to pray, isn't it? 0:30:00.590 --> 0:30:03.670 It is, it is. It is so amazing. And a 0:30:03.750 --> 0:30:06.990 matter of fact, that's how he got his name I was. 0:30:07.030 --> 0:30:09.510 Names of horses are very, very important to me. And 0:30:09.510 --> 0:30:11.110 I was saying, God, what am I going to name 0:30:11.110 --> 0:30:13.790 this horse running through all these different names? And I thought, 0:30:13.990 --> 0:30:16.660 I pray when I ride, that's the primary thing that 0:30:16.660 --> 0:30:20.020 I do is that's my time, my personal time, intimate 0:30:20.060 --> 0:30:23.820 time with God. So I'm going to name him Skysong 0:30:23.820 --> 0:30:27.860 because that means because prayer is a song in the 0:30:27.860 --> 0:30:29.100 sky to God. 0:30:30.380 --> 0:30:35.300 Yeah. Wow. How wonderful, how wonderful. Talk to me about Nana. 0:30:35.540 --> 0:30:36.860 A lot of you say that, and a lot of 0:30:36.860 --> 0:30:39.860 people are thinking about their precious grandmother. But there's a 0:30:39.860 --> 0:30:42.380 different Nana that you write about in your latest book 0:30:42.380 --> 0:30:45.180 called Great Horse Stories. And let me say the subtitle 0:30:45.180 --> 0:30:48.420 Wisdom and Humor from Our Majestic Friends. And that certainly 0:30:48.420 --> 0:30:50.500 is an apt description of a horse. But you talk 0:30:50.540 --> 0:30:52.020 about Nana. What was she like? 0:30:52.820 --> 0:30:56.500 Well, Nana was a Norwegian fjord horse, and if anybody 0:30:56.540 --> 0:30:59.180 has had a Norwegian fjord horse, they know that God 0:30:59.180 --> 0:31:03.140 put extra personality in their little bodies. They're not necessarily 0:31:03.140 --> 0:31:07.260 big horse. They're usually cream. But, um, their manes have 0:31:07.260 --> 0:31:11.700 got their black and white, so they're very stunning. And 0:31:11.740 --> 0:31:14.290 there was some people over in eastern Montana. Friends of 0:31:14.290 --> 0:31:17.130 mine and the daughter wanted a horse, and she'd saved 0:31:17.130 --> 0:31:20.330 all her money. And they or was saving it on 0:31:20.330 --> 0:31:23.170 a on a plan. And they picked out this horse 0:31:23.170 --> 0:31:25.370 and it ended up to be a young horse. The 0:31:25.370 --> 0:31:28.050 daughter had had a problem with her temper, and the 0:31:28.050 --> 0:31:32.930 mother was very, very concerned that the daughter would totally erupt. 0:31:33.410 --> 0:31:37.570 So they and perhaps even ruin the horse. They're out 0:31:37.570 --> 0:31:41.690 on a trail ride. Nothing's going right. The little girl 0:31:41.690 --> 0:31:46.290 gets upset because the the situation is looking like it 0:31:46.290 --> 0:31:49.370 could blow up. She was not trusting Nana, which was 0:31:49.370 --> 0:31:53.850 a fairly new horse to her, and she started having 0:31:53.850 --> 0:31:57.090 a fit. Well, Nana was going slowly because she was 0:31:57.090 --> 0:32:00.170 carrying precious cargo on her back on the trail and 0:32:00.170 --> 0:32:02.810 she was not about to get her feathers flustered by 0:32:02.810 --> 0:32:05.729 the other horses acting up, and the daughter wanted to 0:32:05.730 --> 0:32:08.730 go as fast as the other horses, and Nana decided 0:32:08.730 --> 0:32:12.040 she wasn't going to participate, and the little girl was 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.840 kicking her and screaming at mom, saying, mom, Nana's not 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.720 doing what I want. And mom is saying, it's okay, 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:24.320 calm down. The little girl's temper skyrockets. Nana turns off 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.240 the trail, ignoring the little girl, and walks out into 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.400 the middle of the field and lets the girl have 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.360 her temper tantrum and little girl screaming at the top 0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:33.959 of her lungs. 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.640 Just screaming, mom, she won't do anything I want. 0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:42.360 And Nana's just standing there like a wonderful grandmother, totally patient, 0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:47.920 just letting the little girl. And finally, finally Katie settles 0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:53.280 down and she she just goes, oh. And instantly Nana 0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:55.760 scuttles over to the other horses and takes her. And 0:32:55.760 --> 0:33:01.200 it was like Nana was that girl's nanny. It was amazing. 0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.880 Wow. Was Nana her name before this incident? Because there's 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:08.320 a paradox there that she was protective like that and 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.430 had the name Nana, or was it named after the fact. 0:33:12.670 --> 0:33:16.030 Nana was named beforehand. Wow. And I don't I don't 0:33:16.030 --> 0:33:18.430 know if she came from the breeder with that name, 0:33:18.910 --> 0:33:21.310 but oh my gosh, what an amazing horse! And she 0:33:21.310 --> 0:33:24.510 was so young at that time. Here is here's this 0:33:24.550 --> 0:33:27.190 young horse and a young girl. And the horse had 0:33:27.190 --> 0:33:29.230 the wisdom of an ancient horse. 0:33:30.070 --> 0:33:32.590 Mhm. Mhm. And Katie ended up getting a lot of 0:33:32.590 --> 0:33:34.469 ribbons on the back of Nana did she not. 0:33:35.030 --> 0:33:37.950 She did. And she's showing again this year. She's gotten 0:33:37.950 --> 0:33:41.070 tons of ribbons. But the most wonderful thing is, is 0:33:41.070 --> 0:33:44.470 that Nana was so different for eastern Montana. You think 0:33:44.510 --> 0:33:46.750 eastern Montana you've got quarter horses? 0:33:46.790 --> 0:33:47.070 Yes. 0:33:47.110 --> 0:33:51.910 You're doing roping. You're doing all this different stuff. Well, Katie, um, 0:33:52.550 --> 0:33:55.830 Katie actually wrote English in a show in eastern Montana 0:33:55.830 --> 0:33:59.070 and was the only contestant. It was obviously. 0:33:59.070 --> 0:34:02.190 Stuck out like a sore thumb. And this little chubby Norwegian. 0:34:02.230 --> 0:34:05.630 Fjord horse with a black and white mane and riding 0:34:05.630 --> 0:34:08.109 an English saddle, wearing a helmet. And everybody else had 0:34:08.110 --> 0:34:12.500 cowboy hats on western saddles. And Katie is just devastated 0:34:12.500 --> 0:34:16.980 because she's always been a bigger boned gal, always been 0:34:17.460 --> 0:34:23.460 a maybe, um, a little, um, she would express herself 0:34:23.500 --> 0:34:28.700 very poignantly, oftentimes wonderful gal, heart of gold, but she 0:34:28.700 --> 0:34:30.379 always felt like she was on the outside. So now 0:34:30.380 --> 0:34:33.259 she's really on the outside. She has a misfit horse. 0:34:33.260 --> 0:34:37.420 She stands out like a sore thumb. But you know what? 0:34:37.460 --> 0:34:41.379 That horse, um, did so well. And as the day 0:34:41.380 --> 0:34:45.860 progressed in that show, Katie discovered that it was wonderful 0:34:45.860 --> 0:34:49.180 to be different because all the other kids in eastern 0:34:49.180 --> 0:34:52.060 Montana were going, tell me about your horse. I've never 0:34:52.060 --> 0:34:56.580 seen a horse like that before. So instead of Katie being, um, 0:34:56.620 --> 0:35:00.700 put on the outside as a misfit, she discovered that 0:35:00.700 --> 0:35:04.380 being different is wonderful because people like to find out 0:35:04.380 --> 0:35:08.010 about different things. And she's gone on to excel. She's 0:35:08.010 --> 0:35:11.810 just an amazing young lady. Wow. But all because of 0:35:11.810 --> 0:35:12.290 a horse? 0:35:12.730 --> 0:35:15.129 Yes. And, Rebecca, what I love in this book is 0:35:15.130 --> 0:35:17.410 that you give us thoughts to ponder at the end 0:35:17.410 --> 0:35:19.609 of each one of these precious little stories. And each 0:35:19.610 --> 0:35:21.730 one of them is a jewel. And in the story 0:35:21.730 --> 0:35:24.570 of Katie and Nana, you remind us that God made 0:35:24.570 --> 0:35:28.169 us unique and that he might possibly have made us 0:35:28.170 --> 0:35:32.049 to stand out like a Norwegian fjord. So what you're 0:35:32.050 --> 0:35:35.610 saying is celebrate your uniqueness, rather than being so concerned 0:35:35.610 --> 0:35:39.210 about blending in completely in the crowd. Here's Katie now 0:35:39.250 --> 0:35:43.689 who has this very different perspective in Montana. She's not 0:35:43.690 --> 0:35:47.009 doing barrel racing. She's doing English instead. And yet that's 0:35:47.010 --> 0:35:50.089 exactly how she was designed to be made. Wow. There's 0:35:50.090 --> 0:35:53.489 a great lesson there about celebrating the uniqueness of who 0:35:53.489 --> 0:35:55.730 we are in God. I want to ask you a question, 0:35:55.770 --> 0:35:57.450 and I'm coming up to a break and the music 0:35:57.450 --> 0:35:58.969 is going to start to roll in a second, and 0:35:58.969 --> 0:36:00.450 I'll give you a chance to think about it. But 0:36:00.450 --> 0:36:02.689 in all your years of working with horses and doing 0:36:02.690 --> 0:36:06.120 ranch work, and particularly because we draw so many parallels 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.640 through your writings about how God works with us and 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.160 the messages that he sends us. Have you ever found 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:16.040 a horse where you said utterly, totally, completely unredeemable on 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.920 his way to the glue factory? There's nothing here. Just 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.400 throw him on the ash heap of history because he's 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:24.080 no good for anybody. Did you ever run into a 0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.239 horse like that? I'll leave that question hanging and we'll 0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.920 get an answer from Rebecca on Dev right after this. 0:37:15.510 --> 0:37:18.830 Rebecca again has written several Christian books. Her newest is 0:37:18.830 --> 0:37:22.950 called Great Horse Stories. Wisdom and humor from Our Majestic Friends. 0:37:22.950 --> 0:37:24.989 And before the break, Rebecca, I asked you because of 0:37:24.989 --> 0:37:27.069 all your years. And it's tough stuff. It's what? It's 0:37:27.070 --> 0:37:29.549 what my husband calls the Charlotte's Web experience. You take 0:37:29.550 --> 0:37:31.590 it all or you can't take any of it because 0:37:31.590 --> 0:37:34.830 it's all in there. Especially when an animal gets sick 0:37:34.830 --> 0:37:36.589 and you don't think the animal is going to make it. 0:37:36.590 --> 0:37:39.549 But as particularly in the horse world and you've seen this, 0:37:39.550 --> 0:37:41.950 I'm sure, a thousand times over, where someone goes, ah, 0:37:41.989 --> 0:37:43.710 that's just a bad horse. Just put him down. Just 0:37:43.710 --> 0:37:48.230 get rid of him. Untrainable so damaged. So, um, non-usable, 0:37:48.230 --> 0:37:51.190 you might as well just euthanize the horse in your years. 0:37:51.190 --> 0:37:52.870 Have you ever seen that? And do you think there 0:37:52.870 --> 0:37:53.830 is such a horse? 0:37:55.830 --> 0:37:59.069 Boy? You know, that's a really tough question. Um, if 0:37:59.070 --> 0:38:02.430 it were an injury, I would have to go with the, 0:38:02.430 --> 0:38:05.140 see that report as to whether the horse would be 0:38:05.140 --> 0:38:07.340 in pain or not. That would be my deciding factor. 0:38:08.260 --> 0:38:09.899 If a horse was going to be in severe pain, 0:38:09.900 --> 0:38:13.740 then I would say I would choose to have to 0:38:13.780 --> 0:38:16.260 euthanize the horse. But other than that, Janet, I have 0:38:16.260 --> 0:38:19.940 seen so many miracles, miracle after miracle after miracle of 0:38:20.219 --> 0:38:22.940 horses who have recovered from injuries that never should have, 0:38:23.060 --> 0:38:26.100 horses that lived through things that never should have, and 0:38:26.100 --> 0:38:30.900 horses that turned around personality wise, that really never should 0:38:30.940 --> 0:38:34.219 have from what they had been through. So it's it's 0:38:34.219 --> 0:38:36.859 hard to say. Are you willing to give up on 0:38:36.860 --> 0:38:41.220 a horse for me? No I can't. But the interesting 0:38:41.260 --> 0:38:43.219 thing is, is there's actually a story in this book. 0:38:43.219 --> 0:38:45.940 It's called The Castaway, and it's about a woman who 0:38:45.940 --> 0:38:48.620 found a horse that had been abandoned at a ranch 0:38:48.620 --> 0:38:51.899 where she was boarding her horse. And the rest, it 0:38:51.900 --> 0:38:54.380 had come in on a cattle truck because the person 0:38:54.380 --> 0:38:56.420 who was selling the cattle didn't want the horse, and 0:38:56.420 --> 0:38:58.580 he was just a rack of bones, hadn't been taken 0:38:58.580 --> 0:39:00.900 care of. And he sent him he loaded him on 0:39:00.900 --> 0:39:03.129 the cattle truck to get rid of them. And this 0:39:03.130 --> 0:39:07.130 gal discovered him in a. It was in California, but 0:39:07.130 --> 0:39:09.890 it was a winter weather. It was sleeting. The horse 0:39:09.890 --> 0:39:11.969 was hypothermic. She saw it at night and took it 0:39:11.969 --> 0:39:16.130 in and rescued this horse. It became her favorite saddle horse. 0:39:16.530 --> 0:39:19.610 And as I was writing that story, God reminded me 0:39:19.610 --> 0:39:22.930 of a time. And I still fight with this. There 0:39:22.969 --> 0:39:25.489 are there are times when I see people, and I 0:39:25.489 --> 0:39:28.129 think you people have made the decision to be who 0:39:28.170 --> 0:39:31.689 you are, and you're pretty disgusting. And sometimes it's hard 0:39:31.690 --> 0:39:34.650 for me to love those people. It's easier for me. 0:39:34.650 --> 0:39:36.969 And God showed me through different times that it's easier 0:39:36.969 --> 0:39:39.770 for me to love a hurting animal than a hurting person. 0:39:39.770 --> 0:39:44.130 And God said, but I created people in my image. 0:39:46.250 --> 0:39:49.089 And that puts them on a whole different plane than 0:39:49.090 --> 0:39:51.690 a hurting animal. Why don't I have the same compassion 0:39:51.690 --> 0:39:55.169 for people that I do for animals? When people are 0:39:55.170 --> 0:39:59.129 created in the image of God and he really, he 0:39:59.130 --> 0:40:02.790 really shook me to the core. Janet on that. When 0:40:02.830 --> 0:40:05.870 at one time I had an opportunity, God asked me 0:40:05.870 --> 0:40:08.630 to feed a man who had dreadlocks in his hair. 0:40:08.670 --> 0:40:11.870 He was hunched over. He was old. He was rotten teeth. 0:40:11.870 --> 0:40:14.469 He was disgusting. And I drove past him on the 0:40:14.469 --> 0:40:17.310 road and he was standing next to a fast food 0:40:17.310 --> 0:40:21.630 joint and God said, go feed him. And I said, ah, 0:40:22.070 --> 0:40:23.629 I don't have any cash. Let me go to the bank. 0:40:23.670 --> 0:40:26.190 If he's still there when I get back, I'll feed him. 0:40:26.310 --> 0:40:28.470 So I did. I went and got cash, came back 0:40:29.590 --> 0:40:31.590 and the guy wasn't there, and I kind of breathed 0:40:31.590 --> 0:40:33.590 a sigh of relief and God said, no, go into 0:40:33.590 --> 0:40:36.790 the parking lot. And the guy was standing back by 0:40:36.790 --> 0:40:39.750 the dumpsters, getting more treasures for his black bag that 0:40:39.750 --> 0:40:43.230 he was carrying around. And I pulled over next to 0:40:43.270 --> 0:40:45.230 him and, and I said, you know, I'd like to 0:40:45.230 --> 0:40:47.910 buy you something to eat. And he he had those 0:40:48.030 --> 0:40:51.230 his eyes were like they were shifty eyes and he 0:40:51.230 --> 0:40:54.589 was squinty and he stunk. The man hadn't changed his 0:40:54.590 --> 0:40:57.509 clothes in years or taken a bath. I mean, excuse me. 0:40:57.989 --> 0:41:03.260 It was totally disgusting. And he said yes. My vision 0:41:03.260 --> 0:41:04.859 of what God asked me to do was to go 0:41:04.860 --> 0:41:06.860 in there and buy the guy a meal and leave. 0:41:07.140 --> 0:41:10.219 I didn't want to sit with him, so I went in. 0:41:10.219 --> 0:41:12.340 I asked the guy what he wanted. He said one taco, 0:41:12.340 --> 0:41:15.060 so I bought him the whole meal like a box 0:41:15.060 --> 0:41:17.300 because it looked like he needed more than one taco 0:41:17.700 --> 0:41:19.940 and he wouldn't ask for it. And then God told 0:41:19.940 --> 0:41:22.819 me to go sit with a man, and I went, really? 0:41:23.300 --> 0:41:25.259 Now see if it would have been a horse, I 0:41:25.260 --> 0:41:28.060 would have been cooking them, cooking the mash on the 0:41:28.060 --> 0:41:32.299 stove and adding molasses. And but because it was a 0:41:32.300 --> 0:41:35.580 human being now think how warped my thought pattern is 0:41:35.580 --> 0:41:37.940 in this. This is the image of God. This man 0:41:37.940 --> 0:41:40.899 wearing dreadlocks in filthy clothes is created in the image 0:41:40.900 --> 0:41:43.259 of God, and I'm treating him like he's a piece 0:41:43.260 --> 0:41:47.900 of trash. There's something wrong with that. So, God, God 0:41:47.900 --> 0:41:49.980 proceeded to work on my heart. So I sat down 0:41:49.980 --> 0:41:52.419 with a man and watched him eat. And he's just 0:41:52.420 --> 0:41:55.060 shoving it in his mouth. Of course, no manners and 0:41:55.100 --> 0:41:57.610 wiping his hands. And he's got this beard. And he 0:41:57.610 --> 0:42:00.330 had been chewing and he had this chew stuck in 0:42:00.330 --> 0:42:03.730 his beard. It was disgusting. And then he he takes 0:42:03.730 --> 0:42:05.609 a couple bites and he looks up at me and 0:42:05.610 --> 0:42:07.330 he says, who do you want me to kill? 0:42:08.450 --> 0:42:08.850 Whoa. 0:42:10.170 --> 0:42:13.970 And I, I said, no. See, this is the story. This. 0:42:14.010 --> 0:42:16.450 The stories in this book are so powerful. Janet, that's 0:42:16.450 --> 0:42:20.810 the castaway story. Um, I looked at him and I said, 0:42:20.810 --> 0:42:22.569 I don't want you to kill anybody. And he said, 0:42:22.570 --> 0:42:24.250 then why did you buy me a meal? 0:42:25.489 --> 0:42:26.770 Mhm. Wow. 0:42:26.890 --> 0:42:30.130 See, because he had been living on the streets so long, 0:42:30.210 --> 0:42:32.969 life had no importance to him anymore. And he was willing. 0:42:33.010 --> 0:42:35.210 People had asked him to kill somebody else for buying 0:42:35.210 --> 0:42:36.210 him a taco. 0:42:37.330 --> 0:42:37.650 Mhm. 0:42:38.010 --> 0:42:42.370 So I, I, I said I bought you a meal 0:42:42.410 --> 0:42:45.410 because Jesus told me to buy you a meal and 0:42:45.410 --> 0:42:47.890 he looked at me really strange then, and I said 0:42:47.890 --> 0:42:50.009 I just poured out the salvation message. I told him 0:42:50.010 --> 0:42:52.330 that God loved him, that it didn't matter what he 0:42:52.330 --> 0:42:54.930 had done, that God would forgive him, give him a 0:42:54.930 --> 0:42:57.879 brand new life and redeem him. And he opened up 0:42:57.880 --> 0:42:59.400 to me, and he said that he had been a 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:03.280 World War or a Vietnam vet, and because of drugs 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.440 and alcohol and the stuff he had dealt with, he 0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.759 lost his family and his greatest desire was to be 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:13.600 reunited with his son. And I went, okay, well, Jesus 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:15.319 can do that. Well, he didn't want to have anything 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.359 to do with Jesus. And I proceeded to tell him, 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.440 there's nothing that you can do that's bad enough that 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.799 you can keep Jesus away. You can. Jesus will love 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.880 you no matter what. You just have to receive him. Anyway, 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.000 it was time to go and I stood up and 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.719 God said, give him a hug and I'm going, okay, see, 0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.239 now God's got my heart to the spot where I 0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:36.680 can do that. He softened my heart. I had a 0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:40.040 hardened heart. It wasn't the man. It wasn't about buying 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:44.400 the man food. It was about Rebecca's heart. And so 0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.760 I gave the guy a hug. And as I'm giving 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.120 him a hug, he said, I haven't had a hug 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.120 in over 40 years. 0:43:55.550 --> 0:43:56.030 Wow. 0:43:57.230 --> 0:43:57.790 And he had. 0:43:57.830 --> 0:44:00.350 Tears flowing down his cheeks. And of course, his face 0:44:00.390 --> 0:44:03.629 is a filthy mess. And he's got these lines where 0:44:03.630 --> 0:44:07.109 his tears were. Well, the crazy part was a month. No, 0:44:07.110 --> 0:44:10.549 a couple weeks later, I. Oh, I'll have to wrap 0:44:10.550 --> 0:44:12.069 up real quick. A couple of weeks later, I met 0:44:12.070 --> 0:44:14.589 him at a shelter and he had given his life 0:44:14.590 --> 0:44:15.310 to the Lord. 0:44:15.989 --> 0:44:16.310 Oh. 0:44:16.830 --> 0:44:21.350 Wow. Rebecca, what a story. Wow. Now, see, this is 0:44:21.350 --> 0:44:23.510 why I tell you whether you like horses or not, 0:44:23.510 --> 0:44:25.830 you're going to learn so much about who you are 0:44:25.870 --> 0:44:29.070 in his eyes by reading Rebecca's book. And you know what? 0:44:29.310 --> 0:44:31.030 I want to give it to you. Can I first 0:44:31.030 --> 0:44:33.230 ten callers. Ten callers. That's how much I want to 0:44:33.230 --> 0:44:38.230 give this book away. 1-877-548-3675. Rebecca, come back again soon. 0:44:38.230 --> 0:44:41.149 Let's talk the whole hour. I would love to do that. 0:44:41.150 --> 0:44:48.150 1-877-548-3675 great Horse Stories wisdom and humor from our Majestic Friends, 0:44:48.150 --> 0:44:51.550 the latest book by Rebecca. And I'll see you next time, friends.