1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,799 S1: Welcome to our Wednesday edition of Chris Fabry live program 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,120 S1: From the Heart to the heart for the heart. Today, 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,560 S1: a good friend returns, a friend who has been through 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,439 S1: probably the most difficult season of her life. And I've 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,560 S1: wanted to have this conversation for several weeks, but I 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,840 S1: wanted it to be at the right time. I wanted 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,160 S1: to be when she was ready. And last week, she wrote, 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,360 S1: she said that she had kind of gotten over a 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,520 S1: hurdle of sorts and she thought it was time. So today, 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,159 S1: Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth will join us and we're going to 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,440 S1: talk about the loss of Robert, the process she's going 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,159 S1: through right now, the road ahead. And since we're in 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,280 S1: the middle of Holy Week, I'm sure we'll talk about 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,320 S1: the reality of the resurrection and the hope that comes 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,320 S1: from that truth. Let me thank our team behind the scenes, 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,840 S1: Ryan McConaughey doing all things technical. Tricia's our producer. Lisa's 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,480 S1: helping out Josh, Phil Kraus and Steven Hedges helping out 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,390 S1: as well. And let me thank you for your support 19 00:01:01,390 --> 00:01:05,110 S1: in March. Since today is the first day of April, 20 00:01:05,110 --> 00:01:07,869 S1: we had folks sign up to become back fence partners. 21 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:11,950 S1: So encouraging. And we had some one time gifts in March. 22 00:01:11,950 --> 00:01:13,950 S1: And I want you to know how much that support 23 00:01:13,950 --> 00:01:17,429 S1: means to us. So if you did give in March, 24 00:01:17,430 --> 00:01:19,429 S1: or if you're a partner and you give each month. 25 00:01:19,430 --> 00:01:23,190 S1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. And since today is 26 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:25,310 S1: the first day of a new month, I've chosen something 27 00:01:25,310 --> 00:01:28,390 S1: that has spoken to me. Just the title of it 28 00:01:28,430 --> 00:01:30,869 S1: hits a nerve with me. And we're going to have 29 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:33,470 S1: the author, Christopher Ash on in a few days. The 30 00:01:33,470 --> 00:01:37,990 S1: title is not old, not young, not done following Jesus 31 00:01:37,990 --> 00:01:41,110 S1: in your 50s and 60s. And if you're in that 32 00:01:41,110 --> 00:01:45,030 S1: stage of life with new challenges you've never faced, I 33 00:01:45,030 --> 00:01:47,070 S1: think it's going to give you a fresh perspective, a 34 00:01:47,069 --> 00:01:50,830 S1: hopeful outlook on where you are and the impact your 35 00:01:50,830 --> 00:01:53,750 S1: life can have right here, right now. Let me send 36 00:01:53,750 --> 00:01:56,550 S1: you a copy. And they say 60 is the new 40. 37 00:01:56,910 --> 00:01:59,130 S1: So this might be good for those in their 70s 38 00:01:59,130 --> 00:02:02,770 S1: and 80s the principles apply. Click through today. The easiest 39 00:02:02,770 --> 00:02:07,410 S1: way is to go online. Chris Fabbri. Fabbri. Chris Fabbri 40 00:02:07,450 --> 00:02:10,730 S1: live dot o r g. I want to send you that. 41 00:02:10,730 --> 00:02:15,090 S1: Not old, not young, not done. Chris Fabbri Livorno. Or 42 00:02:15,090 --> 00:02:19,690 S1: you can call us at 866 95. Fabbri thanks for 43 00:02:19,690 --> 00:02:23,769 S1: your support of the radio backyard fence. We were privy 44 00:02:23,770 --> 00:02:26,090 S1: on this program to some of the love story of 45 00:02:26,090 --> 00:02:30,130 S1: Robert Wolgemuth and Nancy Lee DeMoss at the time. Just 46 00:02:30,130 --> 00:02:33,490 S1: about from the beginning, the relationship went from friendship to 47 00:02:33,530 --> 00:02:38,090 S1: something more. Around Founder's Week of 2015. That was in February. 48 00:02:38,090 --> 00:02:41,570 S1: They were married in November of that same year. And 49 00:02:41,570 --> 00:02:45,610 S1: between then and now, we have had some really good conversations. 50 00:02:45,610 --> 00:02:48,090 S1: In fact, Nancy was going to join us at the 51 00:02:48,090 --> 00:02:51,130 S1: beginning of the year in January to talk about Bible reading, 52 00:02:51,130 --> 00:02:55,850 S1: the devotional life. But Robert's hospitalization prevented that, and he 53 00:02:55,850 --> 00:02:58,919 S1: died on January 10th of this year at the age 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,200 S1: of 77. So I wanted Nancy to come on today, 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,680 S1: and I don't have a whole lot of questions written 56 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,680 S1: down here. Nancy, I just wanted to have a chat 57 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,680 S1: with the founder and lead Bible teacher for Revive Our Hearts. Um, 58 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,639 S1: you wrote to me last week, you said, I think 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,200 S1: I'm ready to join you when you have an opening. 60 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,280 S1: It's like I would move everybody off the calendar to 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,000 S1: talk with you. You said the last two months since 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,960 S1: Robert's funeral have been much harder than I anticipated. Still 63 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,000 S1: many tears several times a day. But over the past 64 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 S1: several days, I've received sweet encouragement from his word and 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,040 S1: have sensed the weight, the heaviness, the mental fog beginning 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,360 S1: to lift some. So let's start right there. Tell me 67 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,280 S1: more about that. 68 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,880 S2: Wow. Well. Hi, Chris. Thank you. You have been such 69 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,680 S2: a part of our journey, and Robert and I. Robert 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,500 S2: was a big fan of yours, as am I, and you've. um, 71 00:03:56,700 --> 00:04:00,060 S2: you've helped us in so many others to tell the 72 00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:07,940 S2: gospel story through and through our life circumstances. And I 73 00:04:07,940 --> 00:04:10,700 S2: can remember if I could just backtrack here a moment 74 00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:14,180 S2: back at that Founders Week in 2015, you interviewed me 75 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:17,900 S2: and I just had my first date with Robert, but 76 00:04:17,900 --> 00:04:21,500 S2: nobody knew that it was a big secret at the moment. 77 00:04:21,860 --> 00:04:24,940 S2: And you were doing like 20 questions, things I want 78 00:04:24,980 --> 00:04:28,900 S2: to ask Nancy Lee Dumas. And at one point in 79 00:04:28,940 --> 00:04:31,940 S2: that interview, you said, so have you ever been in love? 80 00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:36,859 S2: And I didn't know what to say because I didn't 81 00:04:36,860 --> 00:04:40,020 S2: know what the answer was. And I kind of stumbled 82 00:04:40,020 --> 00:04:43,420 S2: and stammered. And, um, it wasn't long before we were 83 00:04:43,420 --> 00:04:47,060 S2: able to say, yes, there is love being awakened in 84 00:04:47,060 --> 00:04:50,980 S2: my heart. And you chronicled and shared some of that 85 00:04:50,980 --> 00:04:54,300 S2: journey with us and with your listening audience. So it's 86 00:04:54,370 --> 00:04:57,810 S2: been a sweet, sweet journey. Um, I can't thank the 87 00:04:57,810 --> 00:05:05,650 S2: Lord enough for ten amazing years with this precious man. Um, 88 00:05:05,650 --> 00:05:07,970 S2: that the Lord sent to me when I was 57. 89 00:05:07,970 --> 00:05:13,290 S2: He was 67, having been married and widowed after 45 90 00:05:13,290 --> 00:05:16,770 S2: years of marriage. And just the Lord wrote our story. 91 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:21,370 S2: And you know what? He's still writing my story. Um, 92 00:05:21,490 --> 00:05:26,290 S2: and I see that even in the weeks since Robert's homegoing, 93 00:05:26,970 --> 00:05:30,529 S2: that time was the time in the hospital and the 94 00:05:31,410 --> 00:05:34,969 S2: weeks leading up to the funeral were so full and 95 00:05:34,970 --> 00:05:38,049 S2: filled with grace, but filled with, filled with tasks and 96 00:05:38,770 --> 00:05:42,410 S2: nurses and doctors and people and planning and things to 97 00:05:42,410 --> 00:05:45,929 S2: get done and probably some adrenaline, a lot of help 98 00:05:45,930 --> 00:05:49,370 S2: from the Lord and others. But then the day after 99 00:05:49,370 --> 00:05:54,960 S2: the funeral, um, January 23rd was the funeral and it 100 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,960 S2: felt like the day after. There was just this big crash, 101 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,640 S2: and I felt like my brain turned to mush. And 102 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,000 S2: just a lot of, um, that's when the dam broke 103 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,159 S2: on the tiers. And they, you know, it's been something 104 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,479 S2: I've never experienced in this way before. I've talked and 105 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,680 S2: ministered to and loved on a lot of widows in 106 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,480 S2: the past, and I'm not sure I had any clue. Um, 107 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:31,080 S2: but the Lord knew and he knows and he orders 108 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,120 S2: our days. And I've just over these last several weeks, um, 109 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,719 S2: been clinging to grace. I say sometimes that it's like 110 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,360 S2: waves of grief that come surging in at, you know, 111 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:52,260 S2: grief is messy, it's complex, it's unpredictable. And sometimes these 112 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:54,860 S2: waves just like catch you off guard and you don't 113 00:06:54,860 --> 00:06:58,740 S2: know they're coming and you feel like they're just swallowing 114 00:06:58,740 --> 00:07:03,060 S2: you up. But then at the same time, or within 115 00:07:03,060 --> 00:07:07,339 S2: moments or that same day, or just shortly, or there 116 00:07:07,380 --> 00:07:13,020 S2: are also these waves of grace and waves of gratitude 117 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:16,780 S2: at the kindness of the Lord, the goodness of the Lord, 118 00:07:16,820 --> 00:07:20,140 S2: the 60 plus years of walking with the Lord and 119 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:25,140 S2: seeing him be so faithful, so kind. The grace it 120 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:31,059 S2: comes through heartfelt text or a call, or more often 121 00:07:31,060 --> 00:07:33,860 S2: than anything else, the Word of God. And I got 122 00:07:33,900 --> 00:07:36,140 S2: to tell you, the first few weeks there, I felt 123 00:07:36,140 --> 00:07:38,340 S2: like I could hardly read. I did a lot of 124 00:07:38,340 --> 00:07:42,260 S2: audio listening to the scripture because my mind just couldn't 125 00:07:42,260 --> 00:07:44,780 S2: lock in on the words. And the more I've heard 126 00:07:44,780 --> 00:07:47,580 S2: now from other widows, I realize this is not unusual. 127 00:07:47,780 --> 00:07:51,330 S2: It's not uncommon, but the Word of God, whether coming 128 00:07:51,330 --> 00:07:53,650 S2: into my ears or now, as I'm able to read 129 00:07:53,650 --> 00:07:59,290 S2: it more carefully, those waves of grace. Um, the, the, 130 00:07:59,410 --> 00:08:04,610 S2: the beginning of the fog lifting, uh, has come so 131 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:07,810 S2: much through the Word of God. And I'll just give 132 00:08:07,810 --> 00:08:10,450 S2: you one example. I have, uh, some of our, your 133 00:08:10,450 --> 00:08:13,410 S2: listeners know that we have a revive our hearts note 134 00:08:13,450 --> 00:08:18,610 S2: taking Bible produced by our friends at LifeWay Bibles with 135 00:08:18,610 --> 00:08:21,929 S2: the Christian Standard Bible. And throughout that Bible, there are 136 00:08:21,930 --> 00:08:26,930 S2: prayers in the margin that I wrote for this particular 137 00:08:26,930 --> 00:08:30,570 S2: edition of the Bible, applying the Scripture to everyday life. 138 00:08:30,570 --> 00:08:33,969 S2: And they connect to specific passages. Well, just in my 139 00:08:33,970 --> 00:08:37,650 S2: reading through the scripture about a week ago, I came 140 00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:41,210 S2: to this to First Samuel chapter seven, where there's that 141 00:08:41,210 --> 00:08:46,730 S2: rock of God called Ebenezer. The Lord has helped us 142 00:08:46,730 --> 00:08:49,550 S2: to this point. And Chris, here's what I had written 143 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:53,709 S2: that's printed in this Bible that I'm now reading. It says, 144 00:08:53,710 --> 00:08:58,230 S2: oh Lord, there is an Ebenezer stone of help erected 145 00:08:58,230 --> 00:09:01,230 S2: in my heart. For you have helped me to this 146 00:09:01,230 --> 00:09:05,750 S2: point of my life in one difficulty after another. You 147 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:08,790 S2: have been there when I cried out to you. Your 148 00:09:08,790 --> 00:09:12,270 S2: help in the past assures me that you will help 149 00:09:12,270 --> 00:09:16,310 S2: me in my present challenges. Your mercies have been new 150 00:09:16,309 --> 00:09:20,189 S2: every morning and they will not cease now. And I 151 00:09:20,190 --> 00:09:23,550 S2: know that you will help me in whatever difficulties I 152 00:09:23,550 --> 00:09:29,550 S2: encounter in the future. All the way home to Heaven. Amen. 153 00:09:30,309 --> 00:09:33,589 S2: That was something I wrote over a year ago. Now 154 00:09:33,590 --> 00:09:37,630 S2: I'm reading it in the margin of my note taking 155 00:09:37,630 --> 00:09:42,150 S2: Bible and saying, Lord, thank you. Thank you for your help. 156 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:47,189 S2: Thank you for being my rock of salvation, my strength, 157 00:09:47,190 --> 00:09:51,140 S2: my hope in the midst of the tears, the grief 158 00:09:52,059 --> 00:09:54,700 S2: and the grace and the gratitude. And sometimes when it 159 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:57,260 S2: feels all jumbled up together, as I may sound a 160 00:09:57,260 --> 00:10:02,380 S2: little jumbled in this conversation, but it's God's grace shining 161 00:10:02,380 --> 00:10:06,220 S2: through and assuring us that he is present, that he 162 00:10:06,220 --> 00:10:09,620 S2: knows what he's doing, and that he is at my side. 163 00:10:09,740 --> 00:10:14,260 S2: Robert's gone. This house feels. I'm telling you. The silence 164 00:10:14,260 --> 00:10:21,220 S2: is deafening. The emptiness is cavernous. In this home where 165 00:10:21,220 --> 00:10:24,140 S2: we both were basically here all the time, under the 166 00:10:24,140 --> 00:10:30,020 S2: same roof. But the presence of Christ. I don't always 167 00:10:30,020 --> 00:10:34,060 S2: feel it, but I know it. I know he is here. 168 00:10:34,059 --> 00:10:36,940 S2: He has promised he will not abandon us. He will 169 00:10:36,940 --> 00:10:40,540 S2: not forsake us. He will never leave us. And so 170 00:10:41,620 --> 00:10:44,220 S2: when I said the I felt like I could talk. 171 00:10:44,660 --> 00:10:47,810 S2: It was because I was sensing my own heart being 172 00:10:47,850 --> 00:10:52,210 S2: able to take hold of the promises of God and 173 00:10:52,210 --> 00:10:57,530 S2: walk through this haltingly. Most days, but with so much 174 00:10:57,530 --> 00:11:01,690 S2: confidence that the best is yet to come, that God 175 00:11:01,690 --> 00:11:05,209 S2: knows what he's doing, and that I can trust him 176 00:11:05,210 --> 00:11:09,890 S2: to write this new hard chapter of my story. 177 00:11:10,809 --> 00:11:13,650 S1: Well, that is our prayer today, that the waves of 178 00:11:13,650 --> 00:11:19,090 S1: grace that have passed over you, Nancy, that you're talking about, 179 00:11:19,090 --> 00:11:22,210 S1: would then extend to you as you listen today. I 180 00:11:22,210 --> 00:11:24,770 S1: don't know what you're going through. Don't know what loss 181 00:11:24,770 --> 00:11:27,890 S1: you've been through in your life, but I want you 182 00:11:27,890 --> 00:11:33,770 S1: to listen through that prism of God's grace and his waves. Uh, 183 00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:37,290 S1: she just mentioned you can trust God to write your story. 184 00:11:37,290 --> 00:11:40,530 S1: That's a book that she wrote. Nancy wrote with Robert. 185 00:11:40,690 --> 00:11:43,970 S1: It's our featured resource if you go to Chris Fabry live.org. 186 00:11:44,370 --> 00:12:00,829 S1: Chris Fabry live. Author. Speaker. Bible teacher for Revive Our Hearts. 187 00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:04,350 S1: Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth is with us today at Radio Backyard 188 00:12:04,350 --> 00:12:08,070 S1: Fence and our featured resource today is the book that 189 00:12:08,070 --> 00:12:11,030 S1: she and her husband, Robert wrote. You can trust God 190 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:16,470 S1: to write your story embracing the mysteries of Providence. Just 191 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:22,230 S1: go to Chris Dot. One of the questions I did 192 00:12:22,230 --> 00:12:24,590 S1: write a couple of questions down. One of them is, 193 00:12:24,950 --> 00:12:27,150 S1: is it hard as a person who has ministered to 194 00:12:27,190 --> 00:12:30,510 S1: others for so long to be the person being ministered to? 195 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:31,949 S1: What do you think? 196 00:12:33,710 --> 00:12:40,910 S2: Well, yes. Um, but you know, God pours grace into 197 00:12:40,910 --> 00:12:45,740 S2: the humble. So I need you need. We all need 198 00:12:45,780 --> 00:12:50,300 S2: desperately God's grace to do anything. To live, to survive, 199 00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:54,380 S2: to breathe, to. To function, to grow spiritually. To deal 200 00:12:54,380 --> 00:12:57,700 S2: with sorrow, to to minister effectively. We need. We can't 201 00:12:57,700 --> 00:13:00,980 S2: do anything without God's grace. And how do we get 202 00:13:00,980 --> 00:13:04,620 S2: that grace? We have to be needy. We have to 203 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:08,700 S2: be humble. So sometimes when you're only in a place 204 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:12,860 S2: of ministering to others, I think it's at least I 205 00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:17,340 S2: can say for myself, sometimes there's this subtle sense of, um, 206 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:20,420 S2: the other person has a need and I'm the one 207 00:13:20,420 --> 00:13:23,140 S2: pouring into their, I'm the one giving grace to minister 208 00:13:23,140 --> 00:13:26,540 S2: to their need, but I can't have that grace if 209 00:13:26,540 --> 00:13:30,900 S2: I don't get God's grace myself. So everything that makes 210 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:33,740 S2: me need God. I've said this to women through revival 211 00:13:33,740 --> 00:13:37,740 S2: hearts probably a thousand times, certainly hundreds of times. Anything 212 00:13:37,740 --> 00:13:43,119 S2: that makes me need God is a blessing. So this time, 213 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:49,520 S2: this season of great sense of neediness and desperation and, um, 214 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,080 S2: needing our team and the people around me and family 215 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:58,040 S2: members and close friends and pastors and, um, that's a 216 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,960 S2: good place to be. Now, we don't always have to 217 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,800 S2: be intensely desperate to get God's grace. But in those 218 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,679 S2: times when we are, it's a good thing because we 219 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,840 S2: just realize, I can't do anything without God's help and 220 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,920 S2: without the help of others. So to lean into that 221 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:19,920 S2: and to say, yes, I need Chris. The, the, the letters, 222 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,680 S2: the emails, the texts from people I've never met before 223 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,040 S2: and people I know well and everything in between. Just saying, 224 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,160 S2: we're praying for you. And I'm going, thank you Lord. Um, people, 225 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,960 S2: I sat with one of our pastors and his wife 226 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,520 S2: for three hours in my living room the other day, just, um, 227 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,950 S2: kind of pouring out my heart and I love blessing them. 228 00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:45,109 S2: But they sat down and said, how can we bless you? 229 00:14:45,310 --> 00:14:47,550 S2: How can we minister to you? Would I rather be 230 00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:49,790 S2: the one able to do the giving in that moment? 231 00:14:49,830 --> 00:14:53,550 S2: Of course. But I believe that everything God is giving 232 00:14:53,550 --> 00:14:57,390 S2: me through His Word and his people in this season 233 00:14:57,910 --> 00:15:01,710 S2: is something that in turn, I will be able to 234 00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:06,510 S2: let overflow into the lives of others. In fact, widows 235 00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:09,790 S2: are coming out of the woodwork. I had no idea 236 00:15:09,790 --> 00:15:13,870 S2: how many there are. Of course, most women who are 237 00:15:13,870 --> 00:15:16,950 S2: married will be widowed at some point in their lives, 238 00:15:16,950 --> 00:15:21,670 S2: just statistically. But they're they're writing me and they're you 239 00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:26,430 S2: know what they're saying? They're comforting me and they're saying, 240 00:15:26,430 --> 00:15:32,670 S2: God comforted them when they were ready and still are needy. 241 00:15:32,830 --> 00:15:35,790 S2: God still comforts them. And they're giving to me out 242 00:15:35,830 --> 00:15:39,030 S2: of the comfort that they've received from the Lord. That's biblical. 243 00:15:39,070 --> 00:15:43,820 S2: Of course, Second Corinthians chapter one. We minister comfort to 244 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:46,860 S2: others with the comfort that we have received from the 245 00:15:46,860 --> 00:15:50,100 S2: Lord and from others. So there's nothing wasted. There's no 246 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:53,900 S2: experience wasted. My neediness, my desperation. Is it hard? Yes. 247 00:15:53,940 --> 00:15:56,380 S2: That's a long answer to a short question. But is 248 00:15:56,380 --> 00:16:00,620 S2: it good? Yes, because anything that makes me need God 249 00:16:00,620 --> 00:16:04,180 S2: and God's people is really a precious gift. 250 00:16:05,820 --> 00:16:10,060 S1: The books that he wrote toward the end, his final 251 00:16:10,060 --> 00:16:14,700 S1: was finish line and then gun lap. And, uh, the 252 00:16:14,740 --> 00:16:17,860 S1: conversations that I would have with him, just with him 253 00:16:17,860 --> 00:16:22,180 S1: here and him speaking into men's lives who were struggling 254 00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:25,020 S1: with the Bible that he was able to devotional Bible 255 00:16:25,060 --> 00:16:28,420 S1: he put together. There was something about him because he 256 00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:32,300 S1: was not afraid to talk about death. I feel like 257 00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:38,560 S1: Robert knew at some level that the door was closing 258 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,760 S1: that the end was coming. I don't know that he knew. 259 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,880 S1: You know, it didn't know a date or anything, but 260 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,520 S1: he just. This was heavy on his heart and he 261 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,040 S1: knew that the time was was short. Do you agree 262 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:50,880 S1: with that? Yeah. 263 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:57,160 S2: I do. Chris. It, um, it seems so obvious in retrospect. Um, 264 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:04,440 S2: he was so intentional in those last months about making sure. Well, 265 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,920 S2: he always was in, in the course of our ten years, 266 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,160 S2: he always wanted to make sure that there that his 267 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,320 S2: conscience was clear that when he would have these scans, 268 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,280 S2: he had a lot of health issues over the last 269 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,840 S2: several years. And Robert had so many MRIs and Cat scans. 270 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,600 S2: And when he would go into that tube or that scan, 271 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,600 S2: he would pray. Psalm 139, Lord, search my heart. Show 272 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,040 S2: me if there's as this to as this equipment is 273 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,439 S2: searching me physically, would you search my heart? And he 274 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,920 S2: would tell me that somebody God put on his heart. 275 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,310 S2: It wasn't morbid or overly introspective. It was just he 276 00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:41,270 S2: wanted a clean heart. He wanted to be ready when 277 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:44,470 S2: it was his time, and he wanted to have a 278 00:17:44,470 --> 00:17:49,909 S2: clear conscience. But also he, um, Robert bought a a 279 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:58,470 S2: huge stash of nice, nice, um, stationery cards with his 280 00:17:58,470 --> 00:18:01,430 S2: name on them. And when the order came like a 281 00:18:01,430 --> 00:18:03,470 S2: year ago and I saw how many there were, I said, honey, 282 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:05,590 S2: did you intend to order this many. We're not going 283 00:18:05,630 --> 00:18:07,910 S2: to live long enough to use all these. He said, 284 00:18:07,910 --> 00:18:10,470 S2: I know, I'm sure I ordered too many, but he says, 285 00:18:10,869 --> 00:18:13,710 S2: for whatever time I have left, I want to spend it. 286 00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:16,310 S2: I want to write notes to people who have blessed 287 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:19,150 S2: me and meant something to me, people I care about. Well, 288 00:18:19,150 --> 00:18:21,310 S2: there were still a lot left, but he did write 289 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:24,350 S2: a lot of notes. Um. He called. I didn't know 290 00:18:24,350 --> 00:18:27,189 S2: this till I didn't put this together till after Robert 291 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:32,630 S2: was gone. But about six weeks before maybe. Yeah, less 292 00:18:32,630 --> 00:18:36,730 S2: than that. Before he was hospitalized and quickly became unconscious. 293 00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:41,850 S2: Robert planned a Zoom call between his pastor in Orlando 294 00:18:41,850 --> 00:18:45,690 S2: from years ago and our pastor here in South Bend, who, 295 00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:48,850 S2: both of whom he had asked if they would participate 296 00:18:48,850 --> 00:18:51,369 S2: in his funeral some day. Having no idea when it 297 00:18:51,369 --> 00:18:53,730 S2: would be, but he scheduled a Zoom call with these 298 00:18:53,730 --> 00:18:56,570 S2: two men who didn't know each other. And he said 299 00:18:56,570 --> 00:18:59,210 S2: to them, I want you to meet each other, because 300 00:18:59,210 --> 00:19:01,770 S2: I don't want the first time you see each other's 301 00:19:01,770 --> 00:19:05,130 S2: faces to be at my funeral. That was the end 302 00:19:05,130 --> 00:19:08,690 S2: of November. And did he know that? No, I don't 303 00:19:08,690 --> 00:19:12,050 S2: think he knew. But he wanted to live in such 304 00:19:12,050 --> 00:19:16,570 S2: a way. He told me months ago, he said, I, sweetheart, 305 00:19:16,570 --> 00:19:21,410 S2: I want Will Ellerman to speak at my funeral. Well, 306 00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:25,210 S2: Will is a 26 year old young man who's a 307 00:19:25,210 --> 00:19:28,250 S2: precious friend of ours. He has down syndrome, and he 308 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:32,530 S2: and Robert have such a precious relationship. And Will did 309 00:19:32,609 --> 00:19:36,520 S2: speak at Robert's funeral. It was just precious. But months ago, 310 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,680 S2: Robert was thinking about that. So. Did he have a premonition? 311 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,600 S2: I don't know about that. But I know that he 312 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,320 S2: knew that he was getting older, he was having health challenges, 313 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,639 S2: and he just wanted to be ready. Which, by the way, 314 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,760 S2: is such a wise thing for all of us to consider, 315 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,840 S2: no matter how old or young we may be. I mean, 316 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,720 S2: I have a brother who was killed in a in 317 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,440 S2: a car wreck when he was 22 years old. My 318 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,560 S2: dad dropped dead of a heart attack at the age 319 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,040 S2: of 53. So God gave Robert almost 78 years. But 320 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,880 S2: we don't know that we have that. So I think 321 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,320 S2: the message of those books that he wrote toward the 322 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,520 S2: end of his earthly life and the the message of 323 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,159 S2: his life, what I want to be the message of 324 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:29,119 S2: my life is let's live today, this Holy Week, this 325 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,430 S2: Easter resurrection weekend, and the week after and the week 326 00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:37,070 S2: after when we've all forgotten about Easter. Not that we 327 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:42,110 S2: should ever forget about it, but let's live today in 328 00:20:42,109 --> 00:20:47,070 S2: light of the possibility that it could be my last. 329 00:20:47,230 --> 00:20:49,190 S2: And by the way, that was a sweet thing, not 330 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:52,790 S2: only in Robert's life, but in our marriage. And, you know, 331 00:20:52,830 --> 00:20:56,590 S2: I didn't get to say goodbye to Robert. He crashed 332 00:20:56,590 --> 00:21:00,189 S2: physically before there was a chance to say any sweet things. That. 333 00:21:00,190 --> 00:21:03,869 S2: That's something that has evoked tears and sadness on my part. 334 00:21:03,910 --> 00:21:08,110 S2: We didn't have any precious conversation as he was dying. 335 00:21:08,150 --> 00:21:10,350 S2: Robert had that with his late wife, Bobby. It was 336 00:21:10,350 --> 00:21:13,230 S2: very sweet. I heard about that many times. We didn't 337 00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:16,870 S2: have that, but what we did have was ten years 338 00:21:16,869 --> 00:21:21,550 S2: of day after day saying to each other the things 339 00:21:21,550 --> 00:21:25,230 S2: we would want to say and would wish we had said, 340 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:28,429 S2: if it would prove to have been our last day. 341 00:21:28,910 --> 00:21:32,250 S2: So we wrote them. We said them. I'm still finding 342 00:21:32,490 --> 00:21:36,850 S2: pieces of scraps of paper and paper towels and things 343 00:21:36,850 --> 00:21:40,730 S2: around the house with scribbled notes on them and cards 344 00:21:40,730 --> 00:21:44,690 S2: and just the memory of words spoken. How many times 345 00:21:44,690 --> 00:21:46,490 S2: a day did that man tell me that he loved 346 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:51,570 S2: me as Christ loves his church and his people? We 347 00:21:51,609 --> 00:21:53,810 S2: said it to each other, and Robert taught me so 348 00:21:53,810 --> 00:21:58,449 S2: much about living that way. So yeah, he said the 349 00:21:58,450 --> 00:22:02,010 S2: things he was ready. And when it came time to 350 00:22:03,210 --> 00:22:06,850 S2: for his heart to beat for that last time, take 351 00:22:06,850 --> 00:22:11,969 S2: that final breath. Gone from here, but present with the 352 00:22:11,970 --> 00:22:16,930 S2: Lord and ready to see Jesus. I love that. Yeah. 353 00:22:17,410 --> 00:22:20,370 S1: And that's the glorious hope. That's the blessed hope. But 354 00:22:20,369 --> 00:22:24,530 S1: it doesn't erase the present process that you're going through 355 00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:27,810 S1: or anybody who's going through that. I thought one of 356 00:22:27,810 --> 00:22:30,960 S1: the sweetest things of the. And you said you didn't 357 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,639 S1: get to say goodbye. I thought one of the sweetest 358 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,200 S1: things in the memorial service that was on online that 359 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,720 S1: I got to see was when you stood and when 360 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,280 S1: you started to speak. And there was a I don't 361 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,040 S1: know if you remember this, but there was a point 362 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,159 S1: where you said and Robert would get up in the 363 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,040 S1: middle of the night and it was like I knew 364 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,399 S1: I knew what the finish of the sentence was. And 365 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080 S1: then you kind of caught yourself and then you, you 366 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,280 S1: pivoted and it's almost like I'm protecting him even now. 367 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,520 S1: You were protecting him from getting up and whatever he 368 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,560 S1: needed to do. And, and because you don't have to 369 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,119 S1: explain everything that's going on. I just thought that was 370 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:16,320 S1: so honoring and and protecting him. Do you know what 371 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,800 S1: I'm saying? 372 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,120 S2: Well, Robert would have done that for me. He did 373 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,080 S2: it a lot. And we did it for each other 374 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:27,560 S2: because there's something sweet and intimate and, um, so personal 375 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,700 S2: about the marriage relationship. Not all of that is meant 376 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:34,060 S2: to be broadcast to the world, but I'm also thankful 377 00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:38,580 S2: that Robert was very comfortable with us sharing out of 378 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:42,139 S2: our lives, out of our journeys. Not only the good things, 379 00:23:42,140 --> 00:23:45,820 S2: but also the hard things. Um, Robert was comfortable sharing 380 00:23:46,580 --> 00:23:50,420 S2: in retrospect his failures. And, um, and I have tried 381 00:23:50,420 --> 00:23:52,380 S2: to do the same and to say not for the 382 00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:57,500 S2: sake of, um, you know, just response, but for the 383 00:23:57,540 --> 00:24:00,540 S2: sake of, for the good of God's people and for 384 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:03,659 S2: the sake of magnifying the grace of God and the 385 00:24:03,660 --> 00:24:07,340 S2: kindness of God, that's what, you know, whatever we talk about, 386 00:24:07,540 --> 00:24:10,100 S2: the goal is not that. It's not about me. It's 387 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:12,340 S2: not about Robert. I mean, I've thought a lot about 388 00:24:12,340 --> 00:24:14,620 S2: me and a lot about Robert, and I feel a 389 00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:18,859 S2: little bit more self-centered in some ways in my own 390 00:24:18,859 --> 00:24:23,500 S2: grieving process than, um, maybe is a good thing in 391 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:27,379 S2: the long run. But all the time I keep having 392 00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:31,330 S2: to lift my eyes up and turn my eyes upon Jesus, 393 00:24:31,330 --> 00:24:35,810 S2: even when they're filled with tears and say, Lord, this ultimately, 394 00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:39,330 S2: this is about you. What are you doing in me, 395 00:24:39,369 --> 00:24:42,810 S2: through me, in this Holy Week? What is the death 396 00:24:42,810 --> 00:24:45,970 S2: of Christ? How does it have bearing on my life 397 00:24:45,970 --> 00:24:50,930 S2: as a grieving widow? How does the resurrection speak into 398 00:24:51,010 --> 00:24:54,609 S2: my pain, my heartache and the heartache and pain? Maybe 399 00:24:54,609 --> 00:24:58,410 S2: even many times worse. For some who may be listening 400 00:24:58,450 --> 00:25:01,810 S2: to this conversation and and feel like you can hardly 401 00:25:01,810 --> 00:25:07,930 S2: take a breath. Well, Christ, the gospel speaks into all 402 00:25:07,930 --> 00:25:10,650 S2: of that and doesn't just wipe it away. The time 403 00:25:10,650 --> 00:25:13,370 S2: for the wiping away of tears is yet to come. 404 00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:16,490 S2: In the meantime, I've shed more tears, probably in the 405 00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:20,490 S2: last since Robert's funeral. Seven, eight weeks, whatever that's been 406 00:25:20,490 --> 00:25:23,609 S2: then maybe in my whole life combined. But that's real. 407 00:25:24,010 --> 00:25:24,850 S2: That shows. 408 00:25:25,410 --> 00:25:29,040 S1: That shows the connection that you had and that you 409 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,520 S1: are connected with where you are right now. And that 410 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,879 S1: is a gift to us, to everybody listening who's going 411 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,359 S1: through the same some kind of loss. So I'll pause 412 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,560 S1: right there. Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth is with us today. You 413 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760 S1: can trust God to write your story. They've been talking 414 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,320 S1: Robert and her been talking about that for a few 415 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,320 S1: years now. And you can find out more. If you 416 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,320 S1: haven't read that book, you can see it at Chris 417 00:25:52,359 --> 00:26:08,480 S1: Fabry live.au. Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth from Revive Our Hearts is 418 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,760 S1: with us today at the radio backyard fence. And most 419 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,600 S1: of you, if not everyone who's listening right now, you 420 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,720 S1: know what she has been through since the death of 421 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,560 S1: her husband, Robert in January 10th is when that happened. 422 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,979 S1: And here we are, April 1st. So this is a 423 00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:30,659 S1: real fresh wound. I want to read, uh, an email. 424 00:26:30,660 --> 00:26:33,420 S1: Just got my 48 year old niece suffered a cardiac 425 00:26:33,420 --> 00:26:37,580 S1: arrest last November. She died on Thanksgiving. One of the 426 00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:41,860 S1: pastors at Robert's service said grief is adjusting to the 427 00:26:41,859 --> 00:26:46,020 S1: presence of absence. That has really spoken to me because 428 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:49,580 S1: it's so true. My condolences to Nancy. I'm so sorry 429 00:26:49,619 --> 00:26:54,060 S1: for her loss. Grief is the adjusting to the presence 430 00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:56,580 S1: of absence. Do you agree with that, Nancy? 431 00:26:56,780 --> 00:27:01,900 S2: Yeah. When? Robert's long time ago. Pastor said that in 432 00:27:01,940 --> 00:27:04,300 S2: the opening of that service. I think it struck us all. 433 00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:08,139 S2: I've heard many people refer back to that phrase he 434 00:27:08,140 --> 00:27:13,060 S2: was quoting from another author. And it it's yeah, it's apt, 435 00:27:13,060 --> 00:27:18,659 S2: it's descriptive of there's the presence of the absence that 436 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:21,659 S2: you're not accustomed to and you have to get used to, 437 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:23,460 S2: and yet you don't know if you want to get 438 00:27:23,609 --> 00:27:27,290 S2: used to it. So the, the, the mind and the 439 00:27:27,290 --> 00:27:33,410 S2: emotions can spill over through the eyes. And, um, but 440 00:27:34,330 --> 00:27:42,610 S2: I'll say this, um, that's where Christ comes to move 441 00:27:42,609 --> 00:27:48,610 S2: into speak into, draw near to the absence, the empty 442 00:27:48,650 --> 00:27:52,929 S2: places of our hearts. It doesn't bring that person back. Um, 443 00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:56,770 S2: but it gives us perspective and hope. And I'm going 444 00:27:56,770 --> 00:27:59,090 S2: to tell you like about half the time, depending on 445 00:27:59,090 --> 00:28:04,250 S2: the day, um, I'm more focused on the, on the grief. 446 00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:07,290 S2: And then there are moments when the grace is what 447 00:28:07,290 --> 00:28:09,290 S2: I become more aware of and it goes back and 448 00:28:09,290 --> 00:28:12,010 S2: forth a lot and sometimes just on top of each other. 449 00:28:12,010 --> 00:28:16,090 S2: And I'm just saying, you know what? That's okay. God 450 00:28:16,090 --> 00:28:19,010 S2: is patient. He's kind. Uh, can I tell you about 451 00:28:19,010 --> 00:28:21,369 S2: something that has been fresh in the word to me 452 00:28:21,650 --> 00:28:25,680 S2: along this line again, I've been reading through the Bible 453 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,600 S2: with thousands of women doing this with Revive Our Hearts 454 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,800 S2: around the world. And about a week or so ago, 455 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,960 S2: we came to the book of Ruth. And I've. I've 456 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,479 S2: taught verse by verse through the book of Ruth many 457 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,200 S2: times over the years. Um, but it was so precious 458 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,000 S2: and sweet to me in this new reading. Um, because 459 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,360 S2: I'm seeing here in the time of the judges, which 460 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:53,440 S2: was a chaotic, um, abysmal time in the history of 461 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,080 S2: the Israelites, there was a famine in the land. I mean, 462 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,360 S2: this is it's just a hard, bad time. And now 463 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,720 S2: you have these three widows. And by the way, God 464 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,720 S2: has such a heart for widows. God loves widows. You 465 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,000 S2: see it all the way through the scripture. And he 466 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,959 S2: also says that we should love widows. The people of 467 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,480 S2: God should care and love for widows. And I've experienced 468 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,520 S2: so much of that even in these several weeks. But 469 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,060 S2: here you have not only Naomi, whose husband has died, 470 00:29:25,060 --> 00:29:28,060 S2: but then you have her two daughters in law who've 471 00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:32,100 S2: lost their mates. Naomi's son. So you have three bereaved 472 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:37,260 S2: women who are hopeless and grieving. They have no future 473 00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:40,620 S2: in that culture, no means of provision. They're in the 474 00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:43,740 S2: foreign land of Moab. I mean, it's just could not 475 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:48,500 S2: be worse. And then God orchestrates circumstances to bring Naomi 476 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:53,140 S2: and her daughter in law, Ruth, back home to Bethlehem. 477 00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:56,620 S2: And the something I caught me that I just hadn't 478 00:29:56,620 --> 00:29:58,740 S2: thought of in this way before. But at the end 479 00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:02,100 S2: of chapter one, it says, so Naomi came back and 480 00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:05,300 S2: arrived in Bethlehem with her daughter in law, Ruth, at 481 00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:08,980 S2: the beginning of the barley harvest. That's the end of 482 00:30:08,980 --> 00:30:12,420 S2: chapter one. Just a little detail there. God doesn't waste details. Well, 483 00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:15,820 S2: chapter two, you have the entrance. We're told Ruth and 484 00:30:15,820 --> 00:30:18,820 S2: Naomi don't know it yet, but there's a Redeemer. There's 485 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:23,170 S2: a family, a kinsman, who has the right and will 486 00:30:23,170 --> 00:30:27,970 S2: have the desire to redeem. Naomi and Ruth from their losses. 487 00:30:27,970 --> 00:30:30,450 S2: But we don't. They don't know that yet. Then you 488 00:30:30,450 --> 00:30:33,770 S2: come to the end of chapter two. Ruth is gleaning 489 00:30:33,770 --> 00:30:37,610 S2: in Boaz's fields. He's shown grace to her. He's been 490 00:30:37,610 --> 00:30:39,850 S2: kind to her, but she doesn't know that he's the 491 00:30:39,850 --> 00:30:42,489 S2: one who can really help her long term. And it 492 00:30:42,490 --> 00:30:46,130 S2: says that in the last verse of chapter two, Ruth 493 00:30:46,130 --> 00:30:49,490 S2: stayed in those fields. She gathered grain until the barley 494 00:30:49,490 --> 00:30:53,770 S2: and the wheat harvests were finished. Well, my little curious 495 00:30:53,770 --> 00:30:56,570 S2: mind goes, they came to Bethlehem at the beginning of 496 00:30:56,570 --> 00:31:02,090 S2: the barley harvest, and they. She gleaned there in that 497 00:31:02,090 --> 00:31:05,770 S2: field until the end of the barley and the wheat harvest. 498 00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:08,250 S2: So I'm thinking, well, how long was that? And did 499 00:31:08,250 --> 00:31:11,170 S2: a little research. It turns out that the barley harvest 500 00:31:11,210 --> 00:31:13,570 S2: we learn about this in the book of Leviticus would 501 00:31:13,570 --> 00:31:18,750 S2: start about the time of Passover. The wheat harvest would 502 00:31:18,750 --> 00:31:23,670 S2: end about the time of Pentecost, the Feast of Pentecost. 503 00:31:23,710 --> 00:31:28,830 S2: About 6 to 8 weeks later, there's a span of time. 504 00:31:28,830 --> 00:31:31,750 S2: And I'm thinking, when you put a New Testament lens 505 00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:37,670 S2: on this Passover, representative of the sacrifice of the Lamb 506 00:31:37,670 --> 00:31:41,190 S2: who dies for the people of God, and God saves 507 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:44,830 S2: and rescues his people, that's what they celebrated at Passover. 508 00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:48,390 S2: That's what we're celebrating here in Holy Week on Good Friday, 509 00:31:48,550 --> 00:31:51,990 S2: the death of the Lamb of God for the sin 510 00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:54,750 S2: of the world to rescue and deliver us from our sin. 511 00:31:54,790 --> 00:31:59,150 S2: That's when Ruth and Naomi came back to Bethlehem. But 512 00:31:59,350 --> 00:32:03,230 S2: it wasn't until weeks later. The time of the Feast 513 00:32:03,230 --> 00:32:08,590 S2: of Pentecost that the the Redeemer began to become known 514 00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:13,030 S2: to her and. And the Pentecost, symbolizing God not only 515 00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:15,910 S2: saving his people, but God now living in and through 516 00:32:15,950 --> 00:32:19,380 S2: his people as the Holy Spirit in the New Testament 517 00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:22,820 S2: would come to live in the people of God. So 518 00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:25,980 S2: throughout this book, this little four chapters, God is giving 519 00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:31,700 S2: hope to these hopeless women. In fact, Naomi, maybe a 520 00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:35,420 S2: bitter woman. She's saying, the Almighty has afflicted me. He 521 00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:39,340 S2: has opposed me. And that's how she felt. But the 522 00:32:39,340 --> 00:32:44,700 S2: truth is that God loved this older widow so much 523 00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:50,500 S2: that he would one day afflict his son for her, 524 00:32:50,620 --> 00:32:55,300 S2: for me. He would turn his back toward his face, 525 00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:59,220 S2: away from his own son. He didn't, um, oppress us. 526 00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:02,300 S2: He didn't oppose us or afflict us. He opposed and 527 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:05,860 S2: afflicted his own son so that he could show us 528 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:08,380 S2: his love. So you get to the very end of Ruth, 529 00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:11,420 S2: and you see that this child who is born. Fast 530 00:33:11,420 --> 00:33:14,380 S2: forward to Ruth and Boaz. This isn't just a little 531 00:33:14,380 --> 00:33:17,850 S2: romantic tale. Of course it has that element in it. 532 00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:22,290 S2: But the son that is born to Ruth and Boaz, 533 00:33:22,690 --> 00:33:27,810 S2: the Scripture tells us that he would become the Redeemer 534 00:33:27,810 --> 00:33:31,490 S2: for Naomi. It says he will renew your life and 535 00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:35,410 S2: sustain you in your old age. The Lord has given 536 00:33:35,410 --> 00:33:38,969 S2: you a son. That son, of course, would become the 537 00:33:39,010 --> 00:33:42,890 S2: ancestor of David, from whom would be born the Lord Jesus. 538 00:33:42,890 --> 00:33:47,050 S2: So we see hardship and pain and tears and grief 539 00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:54,130 S2: and weeping and futility, being swallowed up in time through grace, 540 00:33:54,650 --> 00:33:58,850 S2: through a kinsman redeemer. Well, all of this just foreshadowing 541 00:33:59,290 --> 00:34:04,570 S2: what we're celebrating this week. Yes, Good Friday, it's hard. 542 00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:08,050 S2: It was hard for Jesus. It was hard for the father. 543 00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:12,290 S2: It's hard for us to experience loss and pain and suffering. 544 00:34:12,290 --> 00:34:14,910 S2: But we learn in the Scripture that Jesus was a 545 00:34:14,910 --> 00:34:19,590 S2: man of sorrows and acquainted with grief, yet he gave 546 00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:23,270 S2: up his life so that we could have life. And 547 00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:27,029 S2: the promise, the hope that the day will come when 548 00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:30,870 S2: those who are in Christ have no more tears, no 549 00:34:30,870 --> 00:34:37,990 S2: more sorrow, no more sadness, no more pain, no more dying, 550 00:34:38,430 --> 00:34:46,270 S2: no more darkness. Just eternal, unending joy and life with Christ. 551 00:34:46,630 --> 00:34:50,350 S2: Those are two of the three widows experienced that in 552 00:34:50,390 --> 00:34:53,710 S2: that little jewel of an Old Testament book. But how 553 00:34:53,710 --> 00:34:55,910 S2: precious that we can look back to that and then 554 00:34:55,910 --> 00:34:59,670 S2: look to the New Testament and find for our pain 555 00:34:59,870 --> 00:35:03,110 S2: and our sorrow and our sinfulness. Listen, our worst problem 556 00:35:03,110 --> 00:35:07,670 S2: isn't our grief. Our worst eternal problem is the darkness 557 00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:12,790 S2: and sinfulness of our own hearts. Jesus, our Boaz came 558 00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:17,580 S2: to redeem us from all of that. Hallelujah. 559 00:35:18,260 --> 00:35:18,940 S1: Amen. 560 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:20,660 S2: What a savior. 561 00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:24,899 S1: But but here's the other crazy thing about that. They 562 00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:28,700 S1: came back to Bethlehem. And what would happen in Bethlehem 563 00:35:28,739 --> 00:35:33,020 S1: years down, you know. You know, they where where Ruth 564 00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:37,260 S1: was living. Was that in the. Could she have seen 565 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:41,540 S1: where the stable was? You know, years and years, centuries later, 566 00:35:41,980 --> 00:35:45,339 S1: where the Redeemer would be born. And the other thing 567 00:35:45,340 --> 00:35:48,180 S1: I'd like to think of is, since I think Obed 568 00:35:48,219 --> 00:35:50,660 S1: is the one who was born, and then Obed was 569 00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:53,860 S1: the father of David. Um, I like to think of 570 00:35:53,900 --> 00:36:00,379 S1: Grandma Ruth as singing to David or, um, writing poems, 571 00:36:00,420 --> 00:36:05,260 S1: little poems, and David capturing an idea of the way 572 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:10,500 S1: the playing with words from his grandma Ruth. You know, 573 00:36:10,540 --> 00:36:13,360 S1: like sitting on his lap, and that he would learn 574 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,280 S1: that from his mom as well as his grandmother. Wouldn't 575 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,440 S1: it be? It's going to be really fun. 576 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,000 S2: Great storyteller. Kristen, you're so good with words. And then 577 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,360 S2: you just add to that the little tidbit that Boaz's 578 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:31,680 S2: mother was likely Bathsheba. So you think about the pain 579 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:38,080 S2: and issues with, um, that relationship. Um, wait and see. 580 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,480 S1: Not Bathsheba was Rahab, right? 581 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,799 S2: Rahab. Sorry. Thank you for helping me there. But Rahab 582 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,640 S2: the outcast. Thank you. Yes. Um, the one who did 583 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,200 S2: not had nothing to do with the people of God. 584 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,880 S2: But God had found her and found and put faith 585 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,520 S2: in her heart and redeemed and brought her into the 586 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,200 S2: people of God. So God is always a redeeming God 587 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,360 S2: who is making all things new, including our messy, messed 588 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,840 S2: up family lines, which they all are since Genesis chapter three. 589 00:37:10,110 --> 00:37:13,070 S2: So yes, and it takes us back to Bethlehem and 590 00:37:13,070 --> 00:37:18,469 S2: then to a mountain called Golgotha, Calvary, and then to 591 00:37:18,469 --> 00:37:21,830 S2: an empty tomb, a tomb where first it wasn't empty 592 00:37:21,830 --> 00:37:24,590 S2: at the start. There was a body laid there. Robert's 593 00:37:24,590 --> 00:37:27,989 S2: body is in the ground right now. I stood and 594 00:37:27,989 --> 00:37:32,069 S2: wept at that place not too many weeks ago. But 595 00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:36,189 S2: one day the promise of this coming Lord's Day is 596 00:37:36,190 --> 00:37:40,390 S2: that resurrection is coming. Christ has been raised from the dead. 597 00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:44,549 S2: Through him we have hope. Robert's body will be raised 598 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:46,750 S2: from the ground. So will ours. If they go in 599 00:37:46,750 --> 00:37:50,430 S2: the ground before Jesus comes back, we meet the Lord 600 00:37:50,430 --> 00:37:53,750 S2: in the air and we live forever with him. It 601 00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:58,630 S2: doesn't take away the sting of today, but it gives us. 602 00:37:58,630 --> 00:38:03,669 S2: This is what Apostle Paul said we don't grieve as 603 00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:07,670 S2: the world does. We grieve but not as those who 604 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:12,060 S2: are without hope. We grieve, but we grieve with hope 605 00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:16,780 S2: and grace. And where would we be without this Holy Week, 606 00:38:17,540 --> 00:38:20,380 S2: without the cross, without the resurrection? 607 00:38:21,219 --> 00:38:25,500 S1: And what you have just described is this intricate plan 608 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:30,140 S1: of a sovereign God who uses all of that for 609 00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:34,460 S1: his glory and for our good. Even in the middle 610 00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:37,420 S1: of all of the questions and all of the pain 611 00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:41,100 S1: and the struggle. And my hope is today, if you 612 00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:44,140 S1: are praying for somebody who is very far away from 613 00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:46,820 S1: God and you think there's no hope, oh friend, don't 614 00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:50,660 S1: you stop praying for that Rahab or whoever it is 615 00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:54,740 S1: that is running from God. Keep praying for them. More 616 00:38:54,739 --> 00:39:07,299 S1: with Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth straight ahead on Moody Radio. Doctor 617 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,560 S1: Rosalee De Rossi is going to be with us tomorrow, 618 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,440 S1: on Monday, Thursday, and we're going to remember Gethsemane with 619 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,359 S1: poetry and songs and and other things. I hope you 620 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,440 S1: can join us. Liz Curtis Higgs coming back again on Friday. 621 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,120 S1: The women at the cross want you to hear that 622 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,920 S1: program from a few years ago. But Nancy DeMoss, Wolgemuth 623 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,719 S1: is with us today in our featured resource. If you 624 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,440 S1: go to chris.org and click through today's information and it's 625 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,080 S1: on the main page too. You can trust God to 626 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,839 S1: write your story. Embracing the mysteries of providence that she 627 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,560 S1: wrote with Robert. And, uh, if you don't want to 628 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,160 S1: answer this question, you just tell me, Chris, move on. 629 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,880 S1: But I've heard different widows talk about this through the years, 630 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,839 S1: and it's way too early for you to even think 631 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,800 S1: about this, but it's on my mind. The ring. What? 632 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,320 S1: What have you decided what to do about the ring 633 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,760 S1: that you have worn for the last ten years? 634 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,750 S2: Yeah, it is early, I know. Um, I haven't, and 635 00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:12,790 S2: it's a special ring that has a whole history and 636 00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:16,750 S2: background and so I'll take that into consideration. But um, 637 00:40:17,070 --> 00:40:20,590 S2: one of the first things I did was while Robert was, um, 638 00:40:21,989 --> 00:40:25,670 S2: unconscious in the hospital and his whole body was swelling, 639 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:28,670 S2: his fingers were swelling badly. And I saw his ring, 640 00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:30,830 S2: which normally they take off when you get to the 641 00:40:30,830 --> 00:40:33,390 S2: hospital for something like this, but they hadn't. So I 642 00:40:33,390 --> 00:40:35,430 S2: said to the nurses, there's somebody, could you help me 643 00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:37,870 S2: get this off? Because it was really stuck on there. 644 00:40:37,950 --> 00:40:40,590 S2: She worked hard at it. She got it off. And 645 00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:45,430 S2: there were a couple really special things that are engraved 646 00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:50,350 S2: inside that ring, Robert's ring. And um, so I, I've 647 00:40:50,350 --> 00:40:52,950 S2: carried that with me, but since the funeral, I've been 648 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:58,069 S2: wearing it on a necklace. Um, that I don't know 649 00:40:58,070 --> 00:41:00,470 S2: what I'll do with it eventually, but it's been precious 650 00:41:00,469 --> 00:41:03,670 S2: to me and will continue to be. So that's a 651 00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:07,330 S2: special thing for me now. and I've heard some widow 652 00:41:07,330 --> 00:41:11,330 S2: say they like to wear that ring on their finger. 653 00:41:11,370 --> 00:41:14,770 S2: The ring that was given to them. For some a 654 00:41:14,770 --> 00:41:18,890 S2: short time, some a longer time. Um, I don't know. 655 00:41:18,930 --> 00:41:23,170 S2: I'm not hurrying. And yet I know that the season 656 00:41:23,170 --> 00:41:25,530 S2: will come when it will be a new season. And 657 00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:29,810 S2: I wore for years until Robert proposed to me a 658 00:41:29,850 --> 00:41:34,730 S2: ring on that finger because, um, I had such a 659 00:41:34,730 --> 00:41:39,170 S2: sense of being one with Christ. And we used to 660 00:41:39,210 --> 00:41:41,489 S2: joke a little bit, half jokingly, that I was a 661 00:41:41,489 --> 00:41:45,649 S2: Protestant nun. And so I had a ring that just 662 00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:48,010 S2: reminded me of the love of Christ. There wasn't anything 663 00:41:48,050 --> 00:41:52,049 S2: mystical or strange about it. But, um, and I still 664 00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:54,609 S2: have that ring. And the day that Robert proposed, I 665 00:41:54,610 --> 00:41:57,569 S2: took that one off and put this one on that 666 00:41:57,570 --> 00:42:00,690 S2: I'm still wearing at the moment. Um, maybe the day 667 00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:03,049 S2: will come when I will switch those back. But you 668 00:42:03,050 --> 00:42:09,120 S2: know what? I'm just trying to not hurry to sit 669 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,480 S2: in the moment and to be okay. I think I 670 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,200 S2: have probably encouraged some others in my life over the 671 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,279 S2: years to. I'm not like a super feely, um, naturally 672 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,040 S2: compassionate person. That's not. That doesn't come naturally to me. 673 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,800 S2: So I probably have nudged some people more quickly than 674 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,480 S2: was necessary into moving to the next chapter. And we 675 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,839 S2: do need, you know, by God's grace, we do move forward. 676 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,360 S2: But what that looks like, what that means for every 677 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,799 S2: person is going to be a little different. And that's 678 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,879 S2: why it's important to have people in our lives who 679 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,799 S2: can help us think through these things. So we're not 680 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,720 S2: doing it in isolation, but we're doing it in context 681 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,640 S2: of the people of God who love us and know 682 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,000 S2: us and can help us speak into our hearts as 683 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,040 S2: that becomes as as we need that. 684 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,390 S1: You talked about the profound silence, and I'm assuming that 685 00:43:05,390 --> 00:43:09,029 S1: the night, middle of the night, that's the toughest part 686 00:43:09,469 --> 00:43:14,029 S1: to to go through alone. But the thing about Robert, 687 00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:16,910 S1: you could hear his voice and you'd pick it out of, 688 00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:19,469 S1: you know, it's like, well, there's Robert Walker. I know 689 00:43:19,469 --> 00:43:23,509 S1: that voice anywhere. Do you hear his voice still, or 690 00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:26,989 S1: do you keep a voicemail from him or talk about 691 00:43:26,989 --> 00:43:27,830 S1: his voice? 692 00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:32,069 S2: Well, he's recorded so many things over the years, and 693 00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:34,550 S2: so thankfully, there are a lot of videos and programs 694 00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:36,510 S2: like this one that I can go back to and 695 00:43:36,510 --> 00:43:41,630 S2: listen to his voice and of course, some voicemails as well. Um, so, 696 00:43:42,430 --> 00:43:44,990 S2: but I hear it in my, in my mind's ear, 697 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:47,270 S2: and I was at a conference a week or so 698 00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:52,150 S2: ago a for Christian leaders. And um, it was mostly 699 00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:56,270 S2: men at the conference, mostly pastors and church staff. And, 700 00:43:56,830 --> 00:44:02,410 S2: but they sang so many traditional and modern hymns, and 701 00:44:02,410 --> 00:44:05,610 S2: with not a whole lot of instrumentation from the platform, 702 00:44:05,610 --> 00:44:09,290 S2: so you could hear the voices of those, you know, 703 00:44:09,330 --> 00:44:14,450 S2: like 1500 men. And Robert had this lovely baritone singing voice, 704 00:44:14,450 --> 00:44:17,490 S2: and I would I could just almost hear him standing 705 00:44:17,489 --> 00:44:19,650 S2: next to me. He would have loved these hymns. He 706 00:44:19,650 --> 00:44:22,489 S2: would have been standing there singing with all his heart. And, 707 00:44:22,530 --> 00:44:25,810 S2: you know, this was a Presbyterian church. And the Presbyterians, 708 00:44:25,810 --> 00:44:28,290 S2: they not like the Baptists. They sing all the stanzas. 709 00:44:28,290 --> 00:44:31,250 S2: The Presbyterians do. And if you wait long enough on 710 00:44:31,250 --> 00:44:35,170 S2: these hymns, almost inevitably they get to heaven. I mean, 711 00:44:35,210 --> 00:44:38,250 S2: it's from this life to that life, the the life 712 00:44:38,250 --> 00:44:40,690 S2: we have now and then the hope we have eternally. 713 00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:44,290 S2: So I found myself in time after time throughout those 714 00:44:44,290 --> 00:44:48,370 S2: few days, feeling as if Robert were there, what it 715 00:44:48,370 --> 00:44:51,010 S2: would be like to have him there singing and these 716 00:44:51,010 --> 00:44:55,730 S2: hymns about heaven. And almost everyone sent me into new tears. Um. 717 00:44:56,010 --> 00:44:59,760 S2: But yes, I hear his voice. I don't hear it literally, 718 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,560 S2: although I can go to the online and can hear it, 719 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,080 S2: but such a sweet gift it is. And and sweeter 720 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,720 S2: even now to hear in a fresh way the voice 721 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,520 S2: of the Lord through His Word, ministering grace and comfort 722 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,520 S2: and peace. Every time I open this Bible that's in 723 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,400 S2: front of me, and the Holy Spirit makes that voice 724 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,839 S2: of the Lord so real and personal to me, I 725 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,040 S2: can't thank him enough. 726 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,960 S1: Well, we can't thank you enough for taking the time. 727 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,680 S1: It's been such an encouragement just for me. You know, 728 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,200 S1: for for where I am and what I'm going through. 729 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,920 S1: And I'm sure other listeners would say the same thing. Uh, 730 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,600 S1: it's just been, it's just been you and me here, 731 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,759 S1: but I think there's been some other people who have 732 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,800 S1: come along and, and people who will hear this, you know, 733 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,000 S1: later today or tomorrow or 50 years from now and 734 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,640 S1: gain encouragement for you being authentic about what you have 735 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,219 S1: been through or going through and will continue to go 736 00:46:00,219 --> 00:46:03,700 S1: through until you meet again. Until you see the face 737 00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:07,300 S1: of your Savior and see Robert again. God bless you, friend. 738 00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:08,060 S1: Thank you. 739 00:46:08,060 --> 00:46:09,100 S2: Thank you Chris. 740 00:46:09,980 --> 00:46:12,620 S1: Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth. You can find out more about her 741 00:46:12,660 --> 00:46:16,580 S1: again and listen to Revive Our Hearts. Heard on probably 742 00:46:16,700 --> 00:46:19,419 S1: most of these stations, or at least many of these 743 00:46:19,420 --> 00:46:24,820 S1: stations and go to the website chris.org. You can trust 744 00:46:24,820 --> 00:46:29,020 S1: God to write your story. Embracing the mysteries of Providence. 745 00:46:29,340 --> 00:46:32,060 S1: Look up the book by Robert finish line. Look up 746 00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:35,180 S1: the book like the shepherd leading your marriage with love 747 00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:39,220 S1: and grace or gun lap. Staying in the race with purpose. 748 00:46:39,940 --> 00:46:44,340 S1: Just go to Chris fabry.org. Thanks for listening Rosy's up tomorrow. 749 00:46:44,380 --> 00:46:46,779 S1: Hope you'll join us for Chris Fabry live production of 750 00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:50,380 S1: Moody Radio, a Ministry of Moody Bible Institute.