WEBVTT - Apostle Paul as a Father

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<v S1>Did you know the Apostle Paul was a father? The

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<v S1>scriptures tell us that. Know the Apostle Paul may never

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<v S1>have married, and he certainly didn't have a child out

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<v S1>of wedlock. But the scriptures tell us that Paul was

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<v S1>a father spiritually. Exactly what were the attributes Paul tried

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<v S1>to exhibit as he ministered? What can we learn from

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<v S1>him about fatherhood? That's our focus today on this Father's

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<v S1>Day weekend. Welcome to the land and the book. I'm

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<v S1>John Gager, sitting across from our host, Old Testament scholar

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<v S1>and frequent Israel traveler, Doctor Charlie Dyer. Good to check

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<v S1>in with you, Charlie.

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<v S2>Oh, it's always great being with you, John. Know, a.

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<v S1>two weeks, we're shifting our focus from the regular day

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<v S1>to day headlines to catch up on some of the

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<v S1>developments in technology and archaeology. So much to explore here.

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<v S1>This week we'll look at recent advances in technology coming

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<v S1>out of amazing Israel. And then next week we'll explore

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<v S1>recent archaeological stories making the headlines. So here we go.

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<v S1>Fasten your seat belts. We've all heard horror stories about

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<v S1>the intrusive impact artificial intelligence will have on our lives,

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<v S1>including its ability to create deep fakes and even distort elections.

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<v S1>But not all AI technology is bad. What are some

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<v S1>of the benefits from AI coming out of Israel?

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<v S2>Well, the field of medicine is a major area where

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<v S2>AI is advancing and Israel is leading the charge. Like

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<v S2>an AI based voice monitor for smartphones that can detect

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<v S2>early signs of flare ups in patients with asthma or COPD,

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<v S2>or an AI program that can successfully predict if a

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<v S2>patient is developing Parkinson's or Alzheimer's based on a patient's

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<v S2>eye movements, or the ability to read a scan to

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<v S2>detect the early development of cancer. Now, these are just

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<v S2>some of the medical breakthroughs using AI coming out of Israel.

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<v S2>Some believe the greatest practical advances in AI will take

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<v S2>place in medicine. But I can do more than just

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<v S2>help doctors. An Israeli startup company called clarity AI is

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<v S2>using artificial intelligence to target the rise of deep fakes.

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<v S2>In essence, they're using AI to reverse engineer images, video

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<v S2>and audio to discover possible deep fakes. They can scan

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<v S2>each frame and each soundbite to look for anomalies in

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<v S2>the manipulation of the information. The goal is to allow

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<v S2>individuals to identify deep fakes that are AI generated and

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<v S2>in a wholly different realm. Two Israeli fathers created an

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<v S2>AI platform to allow their children to become stars of

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<v S2>their own written adventures. This personal platform eventually became Story Wizard,

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<v S2>a company now being used in schools around the world

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<v S2>to enable teachers to engage students in the art of

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<v S2>creating stories. The details for each assignment are created by

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<v S2>the teacher, and then the student uses the program to

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<v S2>help write their own unique adventure. The program writes the

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<v S2>story and even illustrates it while the student chooses the

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<v S2>names of the characters, the style of the artwork, and

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<v S2>all the other details, whether it's in medicine or helping

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<v S2>students develop creativity and storytelling, or even in spotting the

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<v S2>bad actors on the internet. Much good in the field

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<v S2>of artificial intelligence is there, and it's coming out of

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<v S2>amazing Israel.

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<v S1>Interesting. Well, the summer growing season is in full swing

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<v S1>and many look forward to eating cantaloupe. I'm one of them. Unfortunately,

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<v S1>it's hard to eat a large melon at one time,

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<v S1>and the rest often goes bad before it can be consumed.

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<v S1>But now an Israeli startup has developed single serving melons.

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<v S1>Sounds like a pretty sweet idea to me. Charlie.

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<v S2>Yeah, John, you think of this as the fruit equivalent

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<v S2>of a single serving carton of ice cream. Scientists at

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<v S2>Israel's Volcani Institute have developed a softball sized melon that

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<v S2>you can hold in your hand while you eat. They

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<v S2>discovered that a single gene mutation produced multiple small fruits

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<v S2>rather than a single large one. The company isolated, studied,

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<v S2>and then patented the gene and its effects. They created

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<v S2>a start up company called Super Fruit. In the past,

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<v S2>a decrease in fruit size led to a decrease in yield,

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<v S2>but their technology created a five fold increase in fruit

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<v S2>yield despite the fact that the fruit. Is three times

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<v S2>smaller than average. Now. It took 15 years to develop

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<v S2>the final product, but John imagined having a melon small

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<v S2>enough to fit into the palm of your hand. And

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<v S2>that's just as sweet and delicious as a regular melon,

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<v S2>but without the hassle of having to cut up and

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<v S2>store the leftover fruit.

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<v S1>Hey, what aisle are those in? I'd like to get

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<v S1>one right now. This is the land in the book

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<v S1>from Moody Radio, where we're shifting our focus from regular

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<v S1>day to day headlines to catch up on some of

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<v S1>the developments in technology. Israel's war with Hamas generated a

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<v S1>large number of casualties, but it also led to medical

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<v S1>innovations on the battlefield that have saved soldiers lives. What

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<v S1>are some of these innovations?

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<v S2>Yeah, one of the key innovations was to drastically reduce

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<v S2>the amount of time between injury and advanced medical intervention.

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<v S2>In the past, soldiers would be taken to a field

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<v S2>hospital with the more seriously wounded then transported to larger facilities.

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<v S2>In the current war, Israel's embedded 670 doctors and paramedics

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<v S2>directly with combat groups. They also adopted a policy of

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<v S2>airlifting every injured soldier using helicopters that are fully equipped,

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<v S2>flying emergency rooms staffed with surgeons and intensive care doctors.

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<v S2>In the first several months, they flew more than 950

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<v S2>aircraft operations, transporting approximately 4200 soldiers to hospitals, and the

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<v S2>new approach is paying dividends. The death rate of those

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<v S2>seriously injured has dropped from 15% in the past to 6.3%

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<v S2>in the current conflict, and the average time from injury

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<v S2>to hospital has dropped from two hours, which it was

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<v S2>during the 2014 Gaza War to just over an hour

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<v S2>during the current conflict. They're also exploring ways to develop

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<v S2>better bulletproof vests to help cut down on the injuries

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<v S2>from the current generation of bulletproof vests. Even in the

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<v S2>midst of fighting, Israeli doctors and scientists are searching for

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<v S2>better ways to help preserve the lives of those who

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<v S2>are injured and their efforts are paying off.

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<v S1>What does a person's nose have to do with healing

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<v S1>spinal injuries? Well, an Israeli startup has developed a nasal

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<v S1>therapy that can potentially help those with spinal injuries walk again.

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<v S1>I'm intrigued. Charlie, how does this innovation work?

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<v S2>Yeah, it's definitely a non-intuitive approach, but it seems to

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<v S2>offer significant potential Nurix owned biologic and that's Nutreco. Any

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<v S2>biologic developed expt and to treat damage to the nervous system.

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<v S2>Their concept is based on the medication's active ingredients and

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<v S2>on delivering the medication via the nose. The scientists worked

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<v S2>for many years on regeneration in spinal cord injuries using

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<v S2>stem cells. Their breakthrough came when they started using exosomes,

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<v S2>which are nanoscopic particles released by cells to pass messages

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<v S2>to one another. They discovered that exosomes taken from bone

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<v S2>marrow cells had the most potential to help regenerate cells

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<v S2>affected by a spinal cord injury. They then added a

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<v S2>form of RNA that prevents restrictions on the regeneration of cells.

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<v S2>The exosomes and specific RNA are inhaled through the nose,

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<v S2>pass through the brain blood barrier, and are then delivered

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<v S2>to the injured area of the spine, and because they

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<v S2>come from the patient's own cells, there's no immune response

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<v S2>or rejection. Now, the therapy has been successfully trialled in

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<v S2>lab rats with acute spinal cord injury. They hope to

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<v S2>enter clinical trials for humans in the very near future,

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<v S2>and are working for approval for this in North American hospitals.

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<v S2>Let's hope this treatment moves forward quickly and that the

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<v S2>promise it offers becomes a reality. You can imagine, John,

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<v S2>the impact on those who've suffered spinal cord injuries. It

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<v S2>could be incredibly significant.

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<v S1>Boy that's huge. Thank you Charlie. We'll look forward to

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<v S1>following that story as it develops. Well, several Israeli tech

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<v S1>firms are developing robots to help ease the chronic labor

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<v S1>shortage in agriculture. Now, does this mean, Charlie, we're going

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<v S1>to see R2-d2 and C-3po out harvesting vegetables or driving

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<v S1>tractors in the near future?

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<v S2>Yeah. Oh my, I hope not. But then that's the

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<v S2>short answer. No, but the reality behind these innovations is

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<v S2>still amazing. Now imagine autonomous flying drones working their way

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<v S2>down rows of fruit trees to pick ripe fruit and

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<v S2>then lower it to the ground for collection, or a

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<v S2>self-driving vehicle that can use 3D vision technology to harvest

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<v S2>greenhouse tomatoes. It can pick them from both sides of

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<v S2>the row and place them on a conveyor belt that

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<v S2>then delivers them to crates at the rear of the robot.

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<v S2>That machine, by the way, is already in use, and

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<v S2>in a little more futuristic sense, a company called Blue

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<v S2>White has developed a software platform that will enable one

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<v S2>human operator to manage a fleet of autonomous farm vehicles,

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<v S2>like tractors, to do everything from planting to harvesting. Now,

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<v S2>these are just a few of the innovations currently under

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<v S2>development in Amazing Israel to help ease the labor shortages

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<v S2>on farms, enabling a shrinking number of farmers to continue

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<v S2>feeding the growing population of the world. Charlie.

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<v S1>I'm listening to you rattle off all these innovations from

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<v S1>amazing Israel, and I'm drawn to Genesis 2218 through you,

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<v S1>all the families of the earth will be blessed. God says, now, obviously,

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<v S1>that ultimate and first blessing is the birth of Jesus

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<v S1>from a Jewish line. But is it possible God also

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<v S1>blesses us in these technological innovations that help with the

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<v S1>healing and that sort of thing?

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<v S2>I think it is, and I think that's been proven historically, uh,

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<v S2>the connection to Israel when God said in Genesis 12,

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<v S2>I'll bless those who bless you and those who curse you,

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<v S2>I'll curse. But those who sought to bless Israel end

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<v S2>up being blessed by God. And I think one of

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<v S2>the ways God has done that is letting the Jewish

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<v S2>people and their innovation and creativity become a blessing to others.

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<v S1>Hey, our website might just be a blessing to you

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<v S1>as you give it a look. It's at the land

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<v S1>and the book. Org coming up. The Apostle Paul is father.

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<v S1>We know him as Paul the Apostle, Paul the missionary

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<v S1>to the Gentiles. Paul the writer of one fourth of

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<v S1>the New Testament. But did you ever consider Paul as

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<v S1>a father figure? I'm John Gieger with segment two of

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<v S1>The Land and the book. And on this Father's Day weekend,

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<v S1>we've got something refreshing lined up for you. First, though,

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<v S1>this idea about sharing Christ in a winsome way with

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<v S1>a Jewish friend who needs to hear. So you've been

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<v S1>reaching out to a Jewish friend for some time, praying

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<v S1>for them, hanging out with them, talking things over and

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<v S1>everything's going well. And you say to yourself, man, this

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<v S1>seems to be taken forever. Why don't they just, you know,

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<v S1>they're asking questions about Yeshua. Why not just receive Jesus?

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<v S1>Beth Tavlin is on the administrative staff at Olive tree

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<v S1>Congregation in suburban Chicago, reminding us this isn't an instant process.

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<v S3>No, it's not an instant process. And it does take

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<v S3>time to develop a relationship with a Jewish person and

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<v S3>to help them come alongside and believe in the Messiah,

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<v S3>because many of them have been taught you can be anything.

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<v S3>Just don't believe in Jesus. Because. Because much like you

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<v S3>read in the New Testament, in the Gospels, the Jewish

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<v S3>people typically don't embrace Jesus right away. Yeah, they are

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<v S3>taught that the law is what saves them, and for

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<v S3>Messiah to come in and do away with the law

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<v S3>is in many cases very difficult to embrace.

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<v S1>So I think what you're really saying is we need

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<v S1>to give these people time and space and not have

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<v S1>unrealistic expectations. Correct.

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<v S3>But don't give up either, because you never know what's

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<v S3>going on in a person's heart, and they are thinking

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<v S3>and pondering and considering as long as they remain in

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<v S3>relationship with you and have not cut you off. They're

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<v S3>listening and they're learning and they're beginning to understand. And

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<v S3>it does take a long time.

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<v S1>Encouragement from Beth Tablan with Olive Tree Congregation in suburban Chicago,

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<v S1>here on the land and the book. Doctor Bob Mueller

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<v S1>is a marriage counselor who, along with his wife Cheryl,

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<v S1>founded For Keeps Ministries. Bob has written a number of

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<v S1>great marriage books, including The Marriage Miracle and The Six

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<v S1>Hearts of Intimacy. He speaks across the country and has

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<v S1>also taught internationally. It's an honor to have him on

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<v S1>the program. Welcome back, Bob to the land and the book.

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<v S1>Thank you.

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<v S4>John.

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<v S1>You know, some listeners might be struggling to make the

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<v S1>connection that you have in seeing Paul as a kind

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<v S1>of father figure. What what got you started going down

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<v S1>that track?

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<v S4>Well, John, I agree. I never looked at the Apostle

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<v S4>Paul because by all accounts, he was single and we

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<v S4>don't have any evidence that he ever was married and

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<v S4>so doesn't have any children, an unlikely candidate to be

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<v S4>seen as a father. But as I was examining my

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<v S4>own life, I've raised six children now, are all adults,

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<v S4>all married. I was asking myself what could I have

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<v S4>done differently as a father? And even now I remain

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<v S4>their father? What does the Bible say? That a father's

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<v S4>job description really is? What's the essence of it? And

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<v S4>one day in my personal study, I came across first

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<v S4>Thessalonians two, where Paul describes himself as a father among

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<v S4>the Thessalonians and John. It was like connecting two live wires.

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<v S4>All of a sudden there was just this spiritual voltage

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<v S4>where it occurred to me, I think the Holy Spirit

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<v S4>prompted me that, wait, here's a description of fatherhood divinely inspired,

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<v S4>given to us by God Himself through the inspired writings

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<v S4>of Paul about what a father is supposed to be.

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<v S4>And as I looked at it, I was amazed. I

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<v S4>was struck with some of the characteristics that I had

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<v S4>not necessarily associated with fatherhood.

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<v S1>Well, go ahead and enumerate some of those things that

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<v S1>you see in Thessalonians, or maybe even other portions of

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<v S1>Scripture that point us to Paul as a father figure.

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<v S4>Well, let me begin by reading the passage that proved

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<v S4>to be not just a game changer, but a life

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<v S4>changer for me. Sure, he writes and says, you are

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<v S4>witnesses and so is God of how holy, righteous, and

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<v S4>blameless we were among you who believed. And here it comes.

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<v S4>For you know that we dealt with each of you

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<v S4>as a father deals with his own children. And then

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<v S4>he enumerates that encouraging, comforting, and urging you to live

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<v S4>lives worthy of God, who calls you into his kingdom

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<v S4>and glory. There Paul clearly says, I was a father.

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<v S4>We were a father among you. And what he says

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<v S4>that means, I think is amazing. It's powerful and it's

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<v S4>a challenge to us today.

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<v S1>He's a popular author and conference speaker and a truly

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<v S1>gifted marriage counselor. We're honored to have doctor Bob Mueller

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<v S1>with us today on the land and the book. Would

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<v S1>it be your opinion, Bob, that Paul thought of himself

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<v S1>actively as a father when he when he taught and

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<v S1>when he wrote his letters, was he thinking, now this

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<v S1>is how a godly father would react?

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<v S4>Well, I don't know that he was specifically thinking of

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<v S4>himself as a father with young children or, you know,

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<v S4>raising kids as we do today. But there's no question spiritually,

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<v S4>he saw himself as a father. And the people, particularly

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<v S4>in Thessalonica, where he planted this church as spiritual children.

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<v S4>And the first thing he says to them is, you know,

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<v S4>you are witnesses of how holy, righteous and blameless we

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<v S4>were among you who believed. And John, that says to

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<v S4>me that maybe the first qualification of being a father

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<v S4>that can influence their children toward God is they need

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<v S4>to see a life of integrity in you. They need

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<v S4>to see that you walk with honesty. They need to

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<v S4>see it says how holy we were. And I don't

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<v S4>think he's patting himself on the back. He's talking about

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<v S4>being set apart for God's purposes, which was, you know,

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<v S4>the center of his heart, how blameless we were, how

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<v S4>he attempted to live in a way without any accusation

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<v S4>of a character or moral failure or financial misconduct. In

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<v S4>other words, he said, I set an example to you

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<v S4>of spiritual integrity in John. I think that is the

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<v S4>beginning place for any father who's raising children from the

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<v S4>time they put that beautiful baby in your arms till

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<v S4>the day you pack the trunk for college or send

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<v S4>them off. And then beyond that, because I don't think

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<v S4>fatherhood ever ends as long as we still have breath

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<v S4>in this life.

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<v S1>You know, Bob, if there was nothing further than this,

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<v S1>it seems to me that would be a life. Time

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<v S1>of work and focus and need. I mean, uh, you know,

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<v S1>we're both parents. You've got six. I've got two. We're

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<v S1>both grandparents. And, you know, even today, I feel the

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<v S1>pressure to ask myself, am I living my life with integrity?

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<v S1>You know, am I doing the stuff I encourage my

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<v S1>children to do? You know? So if there was nothing

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<v S1>other than this being a person of integrity, that would

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<v S1>be plenty to work on.

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<v S5>You know.

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<v S4>John, our kids are always watching us aren't they? Mhm.

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<v S4>I mean, they're always looking at us to see what

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<v S4>we will do in certain situations and how we'll respond

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<v S4>to certain challenges. And if we're being consistent. I remember

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<v S4>years and years ago when Promise Keepers was perhaps at

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<v S4>its zenith back in the 90s, I bought a baseball

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<v S4>cap at one of their rallies saying, you know, men

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<v S4>of integrity. It was stitched on the back of the

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<v S4>baseball cap. And once I was in our our van

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<v S4>in those days, we had conversion vans.

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<v S5>I remember this, Bob.

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<v S4>Yes. You know, and Cheryl and I are having a

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<v S4>little bit of a spat, and I'm being a little snarky,

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<v S4>and one of my kids, probably no more than 5

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<v S4>or 6 years old, I hear from the back seat, hey, dad,

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<v S4>what about men of integrity? Hmm. And I just took

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<v S4>that hat off. I took it off and put it

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<v S4>on the console. No, really. They're watching, they're listening. And, John,

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<v S4>here's the thing. They want you to succeed. They're not

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<v S4>looking for you to fail. Your kids are not. In

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<v S4>most cases, they're not rooting against you. They're rooting for you.

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<v S4>And they want to see us be people of honesty,

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<v S4>integrity of character. I recently had the incredible opportunity to

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<v S4>stand on the the church stage behind my oldest son

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<v S4>and his wife and their four beautiful daughters as they

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<v S4>were dedicated. Mm. And it just brought tears to my life.

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<v S4>I was getting to see the third generation of faith.

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<v S4>And is there anything that a parent wants any more

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<v S4>than that? Than to see your faith passed on to

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<v S4>your kids and to their children? And, John, any time

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<v S4>temptation enters, as it does to all of us, our lives,

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<v S4>our thoughts, I just imagine my children and my grandchildren

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<v S4>and their faces. If I had to admit something that

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<v S4>was terribly, terribly difficult or compromising, and that thought alone

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<v S4>is enough to snap whatever allurement that temptation may provide.

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<v S1>Doctor Bob Mueller is a longtime guest of Moody Radio,

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<v S1>a longtime guest at our dinner table, we're talking about

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<v S1>the apostle Paul as a father figure on this Father's

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<v S1>Day weekend. You know, Bob, some guys listening to this

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<v S1>conversation will never be fathers in the biological sense. Or

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<v S1>maybe they've had a shot at it and blown it.

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<v S1>But it seems to me Paul's life shows that all

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<v S1>of us, regardless of our marital status, can have enormous

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<v S1>influence for Christ in a younger person's life. Your thoughts

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<v S1>as you look at Paul?

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<v S4>Oh, absolutely. I think that any man who's walking with God,

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<v S4>if he's single and attempting to live the life Paul

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<v S4>said he was attempting to live. There are so many children.

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<v S4>There are children from single parent homes. There are children

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<v S4>in the foster system. There's children all around, sometimes school

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<v S4>teachers with their students. The school teacher who's a believer,

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<v S4>he's told me about how he's had a chance to

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<v S4>influence some of his students toward Christ. So no, this

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<v S4>isn't just for married folk. Paul was not married, and

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<v S4>yet his example as a spiritual father and a man

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<v S4>of integrity was reaching around the world at that time. Mm.

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<v S1>Well, what else does Paul tell us about fatherhood in

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<v S1>his own life and his example and in Scripture?

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<v S4>Well, John, this is so important. He says, you know,

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<v S4>we dealt with you as a father, deals with his

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<v S4>own children. Now, this is a very personal application. And

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<v S4>he starts with the word encouraging. And I don't think

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<v S4>we fathers can encourage our children enough. I don't think

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<v S4>we can over encourage them. Right. On the other hand,

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<v S4>it's possible to discourage them. Paul warns in Colossians 321, fathers,

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<v S4>do not embitter or exasperate your children, or they'll become discouraged. John,

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<v S4>I think fathers have an innate, God given power of

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<v S4>encouragement that not even their mothers have. Mothers have other

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<v S4>wonderful attributes that are uniquely theirs. And any outlines, those

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<v S4>actually in the paragraph above in first Thessalonians two. But

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<v S4>encouragement is a gift a father can give a child

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<v S4>that will last a lifetime. Every boy needs to hear

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<v S4>from his dad. I believe in you. You have what

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<v S4>it takes. You can do this. Every girl needs to

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<v S4>hear from her father. You. Our precious. You are cherished.

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<v S4>You're beautiful. And I think you're the prettiest girl or

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<v S4>one you know, I. I have three daughters, and I

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<v S4>told them all that they were the three prettiest girls

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<v S4>I knew next to their mother. And of course, all

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<v S4>the traits that you want to see in a masculine

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<v S4>soul and a feminine soul, a father is uniquely positioned

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<v S4>to encourage. And I think one of the best ways

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<v S4>to encourage our children is to listen. Yeah, it is

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<v S4>not our words often that so reaches them deeply, but

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<v S4>the fact that we'll listen to their sorrows, their fears,

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<v S4>their setbacks, their questions, their doubts, their insecurities, and listen

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<v S4>with the heart that says, you are my son. You're

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<v S4>my daughter. With you I'm well pleased and I love you.

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<v S1>You're listening to The Land and the book from Moody Radio.

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<v S1>I'm John Gager. Doctor Bob Mueller is a marriage expert

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<v S1>and founder of For Keeps Ministries. What would Paul say

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<v S1>to the dad who feels like he's already blown it?

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<v S1>He had his chances, and whether through poor choices or

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<v S1>because of baggage from his own childhood, he just he

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<v S1>just didn't do that well as a dad.

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<v S4>John, here's the good news today. It's never too late

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<v S4>to become the father you should be. It's never too late.

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<v S4>I don't care how old you are. I always say,

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<v S4>as long as your body is above room temperature and

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<v S4>your children's, there is a chance there is an opportunity.

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<v S4>Let me use that word instead to be the father.

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<v S4>In other words, if you've discouraged your kids, call them

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<v S4>up today, today and say to them, you are my son.

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<v S4>You are my daughter whom I love with you. I'm

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<v S4>well pleased. Now they may say, dad, did you get

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<v S4>a bad medical report? You know, is there? Should I

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<v S4>come home for some reason? No, I'm just long overdue.

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<v S4>If you've ignored them, stop ignoring them. Give them time.

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<v S4>If you've been critical of them, stop being critical. Start

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<v S4>being encouraging. If you did all the talking and never

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<v S4>listened to them, change that. Let them talk to you

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<v S4>and ask questions and draw their hearts out. John, this

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<v S4>is a wonderful thing. It's never too late. If the

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<v S4>kids are 47 today or 38 or 18, it's not

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<v S4>too late. They will respond. And I've seen it happen.

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<v S1>Bob, I think there's a whole lot of people who

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<v S1>are relieved to hear what you have to say and

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<v S1>would like to hear more. I hope you'll come back

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<v S1>and share further with us. Meanwhile, I want to point

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<v S1>you to our website where you can hear this conversation,

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<v S1>Segment three is next. It's Charlie Dyer's answers to your

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<v S1>Bible questions right here. You know, when you open your Bible,

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<v S1>there's no end to the questions that come to your mind,

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<v S1>because there's no end to the source of wisdom and

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<v S1>mystery that surrounds the Word of God. So much of

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<v S1>it very easy to understand. A child can understand it.

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<v S1>Yet there are dimensions to that Word of God that

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<v S1>are as they should be beyond us and should require

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<v S1>some digging. And that's what this next segment is all about.

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<v S1>Welcome to the land and the book I'm John Gager.

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<v S1>It's all about answering questions that have come to you

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<v S1>in your own journey through Scripture. Our host, Doctor Charlie Dyer,

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<v S1>has his Bible open. And Charlie, I think a lot

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<v S1>of people wonder, how do you share the gospel with

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<v S1>a Jewish person? Because of cultural, historical, and religious differences,

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<v S1>it can be challenging to navigate a gospel conversation with

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<v S1>somebody from a Jewish background. Maybe you've wondered how the

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<v S1>professionals do it.

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<v S2>And to answer that question, our friends at Life and

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<v S1>Let's get to our first question of the day from Mary.

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<v S1>She asks, what is the expression total depravity really all about?

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<v S1>Pastors and Bible teachers, at least in my hearing, seem

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<v S1>to say that in depravity, man is not as bad

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<v S1>as he could be. Is this true, or are there

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<v S1>different views?

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<v S2>Well, the best definition of total depravity, which I learned

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<v S2>in Bible college and seminary, is that at the fall,

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<v S2>all humanity inherited both the sin nature and the guilt

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<v S2>of Adam so that everything about them is affected by sin.

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<v S2>It doesn't mean people are as sinful as they can

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<v S2>possibly be, but it does mean we possess an inward

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<v S2>distortion that makes every part of our being wholly bad

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<v S2>and displeasing to God. One verse that comes to mind

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<v S2>to help this is Jeremiah 17, verses nine and ten.

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<v S2>The heart is more deceitful than all else, and desperately sick.

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<v S2>Who can understand it? Yet we don't even know why

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<v S2>we do things ourselves. But then it goes on and says, I,

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<v S2>the Lord, search the heart. I test the mind to

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<v S2>give each man according to his ways, according to the

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<v S2>results of his deeds.

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<v S1>Lynn says, I have been studying Mark 15 and 16

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<v S1>and I'm wondering, could you please help me with the timeline?

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<v S1>By days of the events of the Passion Week, I've

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<v S1>scribbled my own ideas out and can never quite get

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<v S1>those days correct.

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<v S5>Yeah, and we.

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<v S2>Could take the entire rest of the time just to

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<v S2>go through all the details. So let me give a

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<v S2>link online here that could help, I think not just Lynn,

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<v S2>but everybody, uh, go to bible.org that website and then

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<v S2>type in these words chronology and synopsis of Passion Week,

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<v S2>chronology and synopsis of Passion Week. They have a little

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<v S2>search bar there. Just type that in. Now here's why

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<v S2>I like the site. They're going to provide a day

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<v S2>by day account of all the events in chronological order,

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<v S2>along with the references to those events in all four Gospels.

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<v S2>And what I really like about the site is if

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<v S2>you hover your cursor over each of the references, it'll

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<v S2>bring up the Bible translation of that passage. So it

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<v S2>allows you to compare the accounts in each gospel without

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<v S2>having to flip from one book to another. Uh, again,

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<v S2>just go to Bible. Org and type in chronology and

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<v S2>synopsis of Passion Week in their search bar, and you'll

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<v S2>get a great research tool.

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<v S1>Marilyn asks, whenever I read or hear the story of

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<v S1>Joseph preached or mentioned, I always wonder why Joseph never

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<v S1>returned home at some point, even when he'd risen to

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<v S1>the position of governor of Egypt and was a prominent man.

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<v S1>Why did he never go back home to his father

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<v S1>and family?

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<v S2>That's actually a great question. I think the answer can

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<v S2>be found in two parts. A Joseph was sold into

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<v S2>slavery by his brothers when he was 17, and for

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<v S2>the next 13 years he was a slave in the

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<v S2>house of Potiphar and then placed in prison following the

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<v S2>false accusation of Potiphar's wife. So it wasn't until he

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<v S2>was 30 years old when he was released from prison

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<v S2>and entered the service of Pharaoh. Those first 13 years,

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<v S2>he wasn't free to return home. The second part of

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<v S2>his life in Egypt happened when he entered Pharaoh's court.

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<v S2>After interpreting Pharaoh's dream, he was put in charge of

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<v S2>the whole land of Egypt to help the country prepare

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<v S2>for the coming famine. And he was now, quote, free

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<v S2>in the sense that he was out of prison. He

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<v S2>had power. But for the next seven years he was

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<v S2>responsible for traveling throughout the land and preparing storage facilities

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<v S2>for the coming famine. And when the famine hit, he

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<v S2>was then placed in charge of grain sales and distribution.

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<v S2>He was finally reunited with his family in the second

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<v S2>year of that famine, when he would have been 39

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<v S2>or 40 years old. So in light of all that,

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<v S2>I don't believe he was able to return home first

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<v S2>because he was a slave and prisoner, and then later

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<v S2>he was given such great responsibilities. I think there's one

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<v S2>final reason, by the way, in spite of all that

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<v S2>Joseph did for Egypt, he was still a subject under Pharaoh.

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<v S2>In fact, when. Josiah's father died. Joseph had to go

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<v S2>to Pharaoh and ask permission to take the body of

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<v S2>his father back to Canaan for burial. That's in Genesis

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<v S2>chapter 50. So Joseph was a great man, but he

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<v S2>was still under the authority of Pharaoh and wasn't free

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<v S2>to do whatever he wanted.

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<v S1>That's Charlie Dyer. I'm John Geiger. This is the land.

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<v S1>And the book segment three is all about the questions

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<v S1>that you kind of ruminate about as you read through Scripture,

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<v S1>and this one is an interesting one. Is there any

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<v S1>historical verification for the darkness that covered the land from

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<v S1>the sixth hour to the ninth hour, during the crucifixion?

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<v S2>I don't know of any historical sources, apart from the

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<v S2>Gospels that describe that period of darkness. Of course, the

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<v S2>number of available historical sources is quite limited. Apart from Josephus,

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<v S2>and he wasn't born until about four years after the

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<v S2>events of the crucifixion. I don't know of any other

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<v S2>source that wrote in detail about that specific period of

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<v S2>time in Israel, and none of the official Roman sources

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<v S2>from that specific time period have ever been discovered either.

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<v S2>So the lack of supporting historical resources here is not surprising.

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<v S1>This listener wants a good explanation of Mark 16 verse 16. Charlie,

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<v S1>it says whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. Now,

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<v S1>this can be confusing for folks who say, wait, wait, wait,

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<v S1>I thought we didn't need to be baptized.

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<v S2>Yeah, and I start by saying I don't hold to

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<v S2>baptism as a requirement for salvation. So let me start

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<v S2>here by sharing what I think the best understanding is

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<v S2>of that verse, and actually answer two ways. First, in

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<v S2>that geographical area, that region in the first century, baptism

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<v S2>was the outward indication of belief and acceptance of the

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<v S2>gospel message. Even today, both Jewish and Muslim cultures in

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<v S2>that region, believers decision to be baptized is seen as

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<v S2>the proof of conversion, publicly indicating that they've turned from

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<v S2>their former beliefs to become a follower of Jesus, and

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<v S2>normally baptism immediately followed the decision to trust Christ. But second,

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<v S2>I think it's clear that baptism wasn't an essential requirement

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<v S2>for salvation. The second half of that verse shows the

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<v S2>opposite effect he who does not believe will be condemned.

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<v S2>It's it's the belief or lack thereof that either saves

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<v S2>or condemns. The baptism is simply an outward indication of

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<v S2>that inward saving faith. And also Paul, who did baptize

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<v S2>the Philippian jailer and his family in acts 16, later

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<v S2>wrote to the Corinthians, I am thankful that I did

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<v S2>not baptize any of you. And then he gives a

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<v S2>few exceptions that he did. But he says, in the end,

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<v S2>for Christ did not send me to baptize, but to

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<v S2>preach the gospel. And the point here is that the

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<v S2>gospel message did not include getting baptized as an essential

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<v S2>element for being saved. In fact, later in the book,

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<v S2>when Paul explains what the gospel is in first Corinthians 15,

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<v S2>he doesn't include baptism.

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<v S1>Sharon is teaching through the book of John and says,

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<v S1>I need your insight. In John 531, Jesus says, if

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<v S1>I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

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<v S1>But in John 814 it says, Jesus answered and said

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<v S1>to them, even if I bear witness of myself, my

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<v S1>witness is true, for I know where I came from

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<v S1>and where I am going. But you do not know

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<v S1>where I came from and where I am going now.

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<v S1>How can these statements be harmonized?

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<v S5>Yeah, I.

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<v S2>Think the context helps us harmonize the two statements. In

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<v S2>chapter five, Jesus is saying that under Jewish law, if

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<v S2>he was the only one testifying about himself, his testimony

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<v S2>wouldn't be considered legally valid, since in Deuteronomy 1915 it

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<v S2>was the evidence of 2 or 3 witnesses that was

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<v S2>required for a matter to be confirmed. But then Jesus

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<v S2>points out that there was indeed a second witness to

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<v S2>the truth of what he was saying and and doing.

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<v S2>And that was John the Baptist. That's why in the

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<v S2>next two verses, Jesus talks about another who testifies in

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<v S2>my favor and says about him, you have sent to John,

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<v S2>and he has testified to the truth. Now in John eight,

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<v S2>the context is slightly different, though once again, the Pharisees

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<v S2>challenged Jesus, saying, here you're appearing as your own witness.

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<v S2>Your testimony isn't valid. Uh, this time Jesus answers, using

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<v S2>a different argument, though. First he says in verse 14

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<v S2>that his testimony is valid or truthful because he, not them,

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<v S2>is the one who really knows his identity and mission.

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<v S2>Though his testimony alone might not have been enough to

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<v S2>meet the legal requirement of needing two witnesses in court,

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<v S2>what he was saying about himself was still true. And then,

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<v S2>having made that argument, Jesus provides a second witness to

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<v S2>show his claim about himself is indeed valid. He says,

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<v S2>I'm not alone. I stand with the father who sent me.

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<v S2>In your own law, it's written that the testimony of

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<v S2>two men is valid. I'm the one who testifies for myself.

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<v S2>My other witness is the father who sent me. So

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<v S2>in the end, Jesus did provide two witnesses. In both

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<v S2>of those chapters.

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<v S1>Charlie says, I'll be teaching a Sunday school lesson in

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<v S1>a few weeks. On the origins of the Bible. Could

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<v S1>you recommend a book that would be helpful in my preparation?

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<v S2>Yeah, I can actually recommend three, though there are many

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<v S2>others that are helpful. The first is a small book

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<v S2>by W.H. Griffith Thomas called How We Got Our Bible.

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<v S2>It was written about a century ago, but it's a

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<v S2>great summary. The second book is Evidence that demands a

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<v S2>verdict by Josh. McDowell is a section on the Bible

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<v S2>that provides some information in outline form, and the third,

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<v S2>probably the most complete of the three, is called A

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<v S2>General Introduction to the Bible by Norm Geisler and William Nix.

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<v S2>It provides a great deal of information on how the

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<v S2>books of the Bible came to be recognized as canonical,

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<v S2>and how the writings were preserved. Well, that's.

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<v S1>It for today's question and answer segment. If you didn't

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<v S1>hear yours, is it possible you didn't ask it? Yeah,

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<v S1>it takes a few weeks to get it on the air. Sure,

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<v S1>but you get a response pretty quick from Charlie. And

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<v S1>if you send us an email, we'll get right to it.

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<v S1>Here's how you connect the land and the book@moody.edu. Don't

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<v S1>you go away because Charlie Dyer's devotional is next here

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<v S1>on the land and the book. Happy Father's Day weekend

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<v S1>from the team here at The Land and the book,

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<v S1>I'm John Jaeger with our host, doctor Charlie Dyer. And Charlie,

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<v S1>your devotional takes us to some appropriate remarks for Father's Day.

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<v S1>I suspect.

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<v S2>It does father's wise words from Proverbs chapter four, and we'll.

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<v S1>Get to that after we listen to this testimony that

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<v S1>I think you need to hear.

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<v S6>Hi, my name is Janice and this is my Holy

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<v S6>Land experience. The thing that will never be the same

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<v S6>is the Bible will never be the same to me

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<v S6>when I read it, just simply because of all the

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<v S6>things that we've seen and how it applied to what's

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<v S6>already in Scripture. The second thing that was the most

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<v S6>fun was dancing on the boat and the Sea of Galilee.

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<v S6>And lastly, I think what surprised me the most was

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<v S6>how complex the issue is between Israel and the Arabs

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<v S6>and the whole conflict. And I think in the US

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<v S6>and for myself personally, I have made it much simpler

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<v S6>and it's very complex. So I would like to remember

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<v S6>to pray about that. And I think that's something that

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<v S6>I learned the most.

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<v S1>All right. Somebody who's been to the Holy Land and

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<v S1>had a great insight for us there. All right. We're

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<v S1>going to turn now to Proverbs chapter four for your devotional. Charlie.

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<v S1>Go ahead.

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<v S2>Ah, thanks. Well, in my office I have a special

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<v S2>file with precious items I've collected over the years. Now,

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<v S2>it's not filled with diamonds or gold bullion or stock certificates.

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<v S2>Anyone ransacking my office hoping to find those would be

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<v S2>sorely disappointed. My stash of treasures are cards, letters, emails,

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<v S2>other writings, and Bibles I've received over the years, and

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<v S2>these gems also include a hand drawn book, and I

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<v S2>use that term loosely from my then ten year old daughter.

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<v S2>It's definitely a keeper. Now. I also have a collection

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<v S2>of typewritten letters from my dad. For many years. He

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<v S2>would type a letter to my wife and me at

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<v S2>the beginning of each new year. Dad was a two

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<v S2>fingered typist, so these multi-page letters were a labor of love,

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<v S2>and he didn't know how to switch between uppercase and

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<v S2>lowercase on his small, portable typewriter. So each one shouted

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<v S2>out his message in all capital letters. But the best

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<v S2>part of each letter was the prayer he typed at

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<v S2>the very beginning. He was praying very specifically for both

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<v S2>of us, and I knew exactly what he was praying. Now,

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<v S2>dad didn't come to the Lord until he was in

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<v S2>his mid 40s, right about the time I left home

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<v S2>for college. But once he did place his trust in

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<v S2>Jesus as his Lord and Savior, he grew like a

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<v S2>weed spiritually. On the shelf to the left of my

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<v S2>desk I have three of the Bibles he wore out

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<v S2>over the next 40 years of his life as he read, pondered, underlined,

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<v S2>and then scratched out notes in the margin of each one.

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<v S2>A dad wasn't a professional pastor, though he did become

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<v S2>an elder at our local church. He was a World

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<v S2>War II vet, a high school graduate, and a blue

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<v S2>collar worker who spent much of his adult life as

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<v S2>a truck driver. But more than that, he became a

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<v S2>man of spiritual depth and wisdom who wanted his family

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<v S2>and everyone else to come to love God and His

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<v S2>Word just as much as he did. So. Since this

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<v S2>weekend is Father's Day, I thought it might be appropriate

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<v S2>to pull two of dad's Bibles off my shelf to

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<v S2>see what he discovered in his study of Proverbs four,

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<v S2>verses 20 through 27, Proverbs explains how life ought to

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<v S2>be lived, and a proper understanding of life begins with

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<v S2>a proper relationship to the God who designed it all.

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<v S2>The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

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<v S2>Solomon wrote these words to explain to his son how

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<v S2>life ought to be lived. Solomon wasn't perfect. He drifted

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<v S2>from many of the precepts he himself taught to his children.

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<v S2>But rather than becoming too hard on Solomon, let's remember

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<v S2>that we've all fallen short when it comes to living

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<v S2>out God's standards for life. So let's focus on what

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<v S2>God describes as the ideal way to live, so that

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<v S2>we can hopefully avoid some of the mistakes that Solomon

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<v S2>and our parents and we ourselves have made in the past.

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<v S2>Solomon began by imploring his child to pay attention to

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<v S2>what I say. Listen closely to my words. Do not

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<v S2>let them out of your sight. Keep them within your heart.

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<v S2>The heart focuses on the inner aspects of our being.

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<v S2>It encompasses our ability to comprehend our our feelings and

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<v S2>our will. And in verses 22 and 23, Solomon explains

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<v S2>why it's so important to take in, guard and protect

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<v S2>these truths. They are life to those who find them

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<v S2>and health to a man's whole body. In the margin

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<v S2>of one Bible, dad wrote that being guided by the

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<v S2>Holy Word of our Lord helps keep us spiritually vital

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<v S2>and spiritually healthy, which keeps away moral decay. In the

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<v S2>second Bible, he wrote that Solomon told his son to

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<v S2>keep these words in his heart because they offer health

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<v S2>and life with all these underlinings. In the verses, it

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<v S2>appears dad was trying to focus in on the key

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<v S2>commands Solomon was stressing and he bracketed verse 23 with

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<v S2>lines above and below to make sure it stood out.

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<v S2>Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the

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<v S2>wellspring of life. In verses 24 to 27, Solomon provided

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<v S2>some practical guidance on how to guard one's heart. He

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<v S2>began in verse 24 by focusing on what we say

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<v S2>put away perversity from your mouth, keep corrupt, talk from

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<v S2>your lips. It's interesting that the first place we need

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<v S2>to guard is our mouth. My dad applied this to

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<v S2>his life in one simple note in the margin do

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<v S2>not lie. And he did live his life always trying

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<v S2>to tell the truth, even when it meant that he

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<v S2>had to have some awkward conversations with individuals whom he

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<v S2>felt needed to be confronted for their actions. He tried

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<v S2>to speak the truth in love, as Paul wrote in

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<v S2>Ephesians 415, but he never shied away from saying what

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<v S2>he felt needed to be said. In verse 25, Solomon

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<v S2>moves from the mouth to the eyes as he says,

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<v S2>let your eyes look straight ahead. Fix your gaze directly

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<v S2>before you. Solomon had earlier described the way of the

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<v S2>wise and the way of the foolish, and it's called here.

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<v S2>As for the individual not to get distracted by the

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<v S2>temptations and allurements that try to pull us away from

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<v S2>the path of godliness toward the ways of the world.

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<v S2>Dad underlined. Let your gaze be fixed straight in front

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<v S2>of you and in the margin, he added On Jesus Christ.

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<v S2>He didn't include a reference, but I'm pretty sure he

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<v S2>was thinking of Hebrews 12 one and two, where we're

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<v S2>told not to let ourselves become entangled by sin, but

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<v S2>to run the race before us, fixing our eyes on Jesus. Finally,

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<v S2>in verses 26 and 27, Solomon moves from our mouth

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<v S2>and our eyes to our feet. Make level paths for

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<v S2>your feet and take only ways that are firm. Do

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<v S2>not swerve to the right or the left. Keep your

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<v S2>foot from evil. This theme is one Solomon keeps repeating.

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<v S2>In verses 18 and 19 he described the two pathways

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<v S2>available to everyone. The path of the righteous is like

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<v S2>the first gleam of dawn, shining ever brighter till the

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<v S2>full light of day. But the path of the wicked

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<v S2>is like deep darkness. They do not know what makes

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<v S2>them stumble. Dad liked these verses because he squeezed several

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<v S2>notes in the margin. For verses 18 and 19 he wrote,

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<v S2>the path of the righteous is like the sun's rays

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<v S2>in the morning. By noon it is in full light.

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<v S2>But for the wicked it's in deep darkness. And then

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<v S2>in another color ink. He wrote no hope. At verses

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<v S2>26 to 27 he wrote, our conduct should be right

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<v S2>and keep us on a level path. And in the

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<v S2>other Bible he wrote, walk a straight path for Jesus.

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<v S2>So what do these verses have to do with you

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<v S2>this Father's Day weekend? Some of you have a godly

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<v S2>father who is still alive, and if so, take some

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<v S2>time to let him know how much you appreciate the

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<v S2>impact he's made on your life over the years. But

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<v S2>what if your father's absent or has passed away? Does

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<v S2>Father's Day for you need to be a time of

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<v S2>sorrow and regret? I don't believe it has to be

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<v S2>for two reasons. First, you can still think back and

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<v S2>focus on the good experiences you had with your father.

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<v S2>What life lessons, spiritual or otherwise, did you learn from him?

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<v S2>What memories do you have of the ways he tried

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<v S2>to be a good father for you? Now? For some,

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<v S2>there might not be any memories. You may have grown

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<v S2>up without a father in your life. He might have

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<v S2>died when you were young, or he might even have

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<v S2>walked away from his commitment to his family. And if

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<v S2>that's the case, how can you apply these truths on

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<v S2>this Father's Day weekend? I believe the answer, then, is

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<v S2>to look beyond your earthly, biological father to your heavenly

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<v S2>father who has said he will never leave you nor

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<v S2>forsake you. Claim Psalm 68 five for yourself today a

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<v S2>father to the fatherless, a defender of widows, is God

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<v S2>in his holy dwelling. The anniversary of my dad's homegoing

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<v S2>is next month. He's been gone for several years and

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<v S2>I still miss him. But my Heavenly Father will always

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<v S2>be there for me, and he will be there for

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<v S2>you as well this weekend and every single day that follows.

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<v S2>And he wants you to listen to his wise words

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<v S2>in Proverbs 24, so that what you feel and think,

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<v S2>what you say, what you see and what you do,

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<v S2>point your friends and family toward him as well.

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<v S1>Thank you. Charlie loved having your dad's notes right there,

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<v S1>amplifying what we're reading in Scripture. Those are great insights. Well,

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<v S1>you know, our time is gone, but we want to

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<v S1>say thank you to this station for providing air time.

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<v S1>There's no accident about this program. By the way, the

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<v S1>fact that we're here, that you're hearing us is because

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<v S1>of the kindness of this radio station. So we thank

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<v S1>them and I hope you'll drop them a line as well,

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<v S1>letting them know that you appreciate the land and the book.

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<v S1>Our host, Charlie Dyer and producer Dan Anderson, want to

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<v S1>join me in saying thanks for listening to The Land

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<v S1>and the book, a production of Moody Radio, a ministry

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<v S1>of Moody Bible Institute.