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S1: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: Give him praise, guys. It's Carl and crew mornings here.
S2: We've got a whole week on mindset. And this is.
S2: This is huge. Our mind is a battlefield. We all
S2: agree with that. Right, guys?
S3: No doubt. Yes. Every day.
S2: Is. Is anyone? Am I alone in this one or
S2: do I find. Am I the only one out there
S2: that's battling thoughts that come pepper in my mind morning,
S2: noon and night?
S3: You are not. And it's so annoying. I don't know
S3: if you've ever just had that. Just a feeling of
S3: great annoyance over it where you're like, okay, where is
S3: this coming? Like, I'm just driving down the highway, like,
S3: what's going on? Where is that coming from? And it
S3: annoys you. It can make you feel ashamed because of
S3: these things that just pop into your head. And sometimes
S3: if you let that shame feeling creep in and and
S3: you don't do anything with it, then you just kind
S3: of hide inside of it, which is very dangerous when
S3: it comes to temptation.
S2: It's huge. What's your thought on this one, Ali?
S4: Well, you know, it's every age. You know, I was
S4: having a conversation with with my son, and he's in
S4: sixth grade, and, you know, he he's one of those
S4: kids who kind of gets along with everybody. And so
S4: people joke around with him, and he takes jokes. Well,
S4: but he says sometimes he gets aggravated and he goes
S4: and he goes, and then something will pop in his mind,
S4: like something really mean that he could say back to
S4: a particular kid, that would be a great comeback and
S4: that would shut the whole conversation down. He goes, but I,
S4: I didn't say it.
S2: I can I tell you something? I need to hold
S2: on here. Time out. Way to go. Yes, mom and Henry.
S2: Way to go. You guys are. You guys know you're
S2: you're going to sit there and you're going to take
S2: some applauds from me for a big applause. You are
S2: raising a good man. Kids do not naturally grow up
S2: thinking I need to constrain this thought. That would be
S2: a destructive salvo to Goober over here.
S4: And the thing that I was. Thank you. By the
S4: grace of God, I was very proud because he understood.
S4: I was proud of him, because he understood that the
S4: impact of the words that he would have would hurt his,
S4: you know, classmate far more than the things that they
S4: were lobbing at him. He he was self-aware enough to
S4: know if I throw this grenade. And I he had
S4: clearly spent some time because it was a very specific diss.
S4: And I'm like, whoa, that's a doozy. Glad you didn't
S4: say it. It's like I was tempted to, because I
S4: was irritated that they just kind of kept poking fun
S4: at me, but I didn't. So temptation comes in many
S4: forms and it starts early. You're tempted as a kid
S4: to do things that you know you shouldn't.
S2: Yeah, that wasn't a grenade. That was called a bunker
S2: buster that he was fixing to lob. That goes through.
S5: Boom, boom, boom.
S2: Four layers of underground tunneling and gets to the desired target.
S2: You mentioned a point that is important. I want you
S2: to get this boom crew. Have you ever been beat
S2: up because you thought your temptation was sin, or it
S2: somehow reflected poorly on you? Don't do that ever again.
S2: You know why? You got enough sin that you need
S2: to deal with, let alone temptation.
S3: That's very.
S2: True. Just get really practical here. Why? Why heap more
S2: grief on yourself by going, oh, my temptation makes me awful.
S2: Did you know that Jesus was tempted in every way,
S2: yet without sin? That's in Hebrews 415. Yeah. And did
S2: you know that we've been given a way of escape?
S2: This is First Corinthians 1013. Did I say Hebrews 415?
S3: Yes.
S2: Okay, so first Corinthians 1013. This is what Paul says.
S2: No temptation is overtaking you, meaning that temptation can overtake
S2: you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful.
S2: He will not let you be tempted beyond what you
S2: can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also
S2: provide a way of escape or a way out, depending
S2: on your translation, that you can endure it. What's the
S2: implication here about temptation? What is it?
S4: It's common.
S3: It's common. It's it's not sin. You have a way
S3: of escape. Jesus provides you with a way out before
S3: you are overcome by it.
S2: Have you ever thought something? And you go, oh, ick!
S2: How can I even think that?
S4: Of course.
S2: Ick. I mean, you wake up after a dream and
S2: you go, ick! How could I even think that? I've
S2: been in dreams where I walk out and I'm glad
S2: I woke up because I'm running from someone.
S3: Mhm. Mhm.
S2: Yeah. Thankfully those went away years ago. But you get the,
S2: the mind is a battlefield. I've got a book called
S2: battlefield of the mind and it is so true. So here's,
S2: here's the thing that we've got to remember. Can Satan
S2: use temptation as a birthplace for sin. Certainly it all
S2: begins there. What Jesus do with temptation, by the way,
S2: when he came out of the wilderness and Satan tempted him,
S2: what did he use?
S3: He used scripture scripture to come.
S2: Back to God, specifically Deuteronomy, and he had them ready
S2: for this memorized.
S3: Yep. He didn't have a scroll with him that he
S3: pulled out.
S2: Yeah, he didn't have a pocket scroll. Hang on a second, Satan.
S3: Let me pull out my pocket scroll.
S2: No, he had to memorize and he wielded that. I
S2: gotta do this. I gotta say this. There's a word
S2: called rhema, and it's the spoken word of God. And
S2: that's what the word is spoken there. When Jesus said, Satan,
S2: man shall not live by bread alone, but by every
S2: rhema word that comes from the mouth of God. Now
S2: let me tell you why this is so important. Speaking
S2: out the word of God. I'm just throwing this in
S2: for free right now. Speaking out the Word of God
S2: is the way you deal with temptation. No, I'm not
S2: going to provide any provision for the flesh. You have
S2: no grounds there? No. I'm going to redeem the time
S2: because the days are evil. I'm getting off my booty,
S2: and I'm not going to sit here and watch one
S2: more show on Netflix. Nope. I'm not going to treat
S2: my body like a trash can. And nope, I'm going
S2: to find my fullness in Jesus. I'm not going to
S2: shove another Quarter Pounder with cheese in there. I mean, guys,
S2: we're tempted with stuff constantly, but the big off the
S2: hook thing here right now is temptation is not sin.
S2: Isn't that great news?
S4: It is because so much of what happens in our mind,
S4: we can start to get beat up over it. And
S4: then sometimes the guilt and shame of the thoughts you
S4: are thinking can actually lower your defense to sin.
S6: Oh Allie, what a great perception.
S2: It's exactly right because we've seen it do it.
S4: Yeah. And because you think, well, man, if I'm the
S4: type of person who already thinks thoughts like that and
S4: then all of a sudden you start. Well, maybe I'm
S4: the kind of person who might do something like that.
S2: Coming up here. Allie had a conversation with a great guy.
S2: In fact, he's done some writing on this very thing.
S2: So buckle up. Hang on, get a swig of water, guys.
S2: We're going to be talking, sifting today. Truth. All day long.
S2: Just sifting it. Spit out the pits. Hold on to
S2: the good stuff. Temptation. What do you know to be
S2: true or not true? Hang on.
S1: She was trying to earn her way to God, but
S1: God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in
S1: the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S4: Well, you probably don't need a definition of temptation. You
S4: know what it feels like to have the desire to
S4: do something that otherwise isn't good for you, or that
S4: you should not, but the desire remains. Let's talk about
S4: it with our special guest, Doctor Bradley Baron. Is that
S4: a good working definition of temptation? I want to do something,
S4: but I know I shouldn't.
S7: That's a very good working temptation. It's going to be
S7: something we face every minute of every day in many ways.
S4: And you've tackled it. You're the author for this month's
S4: today in the Word devotional. What was your starting point
S4: for just tackling this big, important topic?
S7: Yeah, I should say the starting point was not that
S7: I'm such a great expert. The starting point was that
S7: I wanted to learn something about it, and I was
S7: a little surprised to find that we had not covered
S7: it in today in The Word before. So it was
S7: something that came out of my own Bible study that
S7: I thought would be helpful to our readers.
S4: What surprised you?
S7: Well, one is the fact that today the word had
S7: never done it before when it's so common. It's all
S7: through the pages of Scripture, whether it's narrative or expository.
S7: And you know, 30 days wasn't nearly enough.
S4: So let's talk about the source of temptation. We've heard
S4: of the kind of the big three, which are the
S4: source of temptation can be what?
S7: The world, the flesh and the devil. So the world
S7: is outside, right? So I look at my neighbor's new car,
S7: and maybe I'm tempted to covet it or envy. And
S7: then there's the flesh. Those are temptations that come from inside.
S7: We're in the process of being redeemed, but we're not
S7: quite there yet. And then the devil. He is the adversary.
S7: He's the enemy of our souls. And he would love
S7: to get us one degree off true north, meaning true
S7: north being Christ. I mean, he doesn't usually tempt me
S7: to rob a bank because that wouldn't be very tempting
S7: to me. But he slides in some subtle, attractive temptation
S7: that gets my eyes off Christ, and once he gets
S7: one degree off, he'll try for two degrees and then
S7: three degrees.
S4: And so where do we see in Scripture? I mean,
S4: you said it's all over. What are some common passages
S4: of Scripture or places that can help us understand how
S4: to deal with temptation?
S7: The first one that pops into my head is the
S7: Lord's Prayer, right? Only a few topics are actually mentioned
S7: in the Lord's Prayer, and temptation is one of them.
S7: Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
S7: So that's one of the ways to overcome temptation is
S7: to stay in prayer. That's certainly what Christ did. And
S7: of course, then Christ himself faced temptation in the wilderness.
S7: That's one of the defining episodes in his ministry. And
S7: he fought it by quoting scripture. You know, so there's
S7: it's not rocket science here. Quoting Scripture and prayer. Scripture
S7: and prayer are two of the ways to resist. If
S7: you're looking for the range. Adam and Eve faced temptation
S7: in the garden, and obviously they did poorly with that.
S7: And we all faced the consequences as a result. Right.
S7: But you get, you know, everybody everybody got Abraham, who
S7: was tempted to lie to Pharaoh and he gave in
S7: to that. You got Ezekiel, who was tempted not to
S7: deliver the word of the Lord. And of course, the
S7: apostles taught in the epistles that temptation was going to
S7: be a daily reality for every one of us. By
S7: resisting it, this is how we draw near to Christ
S7: and become more like him.
S4: And as we resist temptation, because I think most people
S4: would like to think that, won't there come a time
S4: when I have read enough of the word, when I've
S4: prayed enough, when I've walked long enough with the Lord
S4: that I'm not dealing with these pesky temptations? Is that
S4: a is that even something to aim for? That somehow
S4: we could be insulated to the point where we won't
S4: experience it.
S7: Yes and no. Will it get easier as you get
S7: more mature? Yes. Absolutely. You get better spiritual habits, stronger
S7: spiritual disciplines. You're closer to the Lord. You know more
S7: of Satan's tricks. On the other hand, will you be
S7: completely insulated and not even bothered by temptation? Well, yes.
S7: That's when Christ returns. Sure. Or you join him in glory.
S7: But I do think that for mature saints, the battle
S7: does get easier in the sense that you know how
S7: to win it just by relying on the Lord.
S4: Now, commonly quoted passage of Scripture is about God providing
S4: a way of escape, us not being tempted beyond what
S4: we can bear out of. First Corinthians ten, I believe.
S4: What do you say about that scripture as you did
S4: your study?
S7: Well, I think that we've never felt the full strength
S7: of temptation because we usually give in. Right? Right. The
S7: only one who has felt the full strength of temptation
S7: is Christ. And he never gave in. And the more
S7: I study temptation, that just amazes me that every day,
S7: every minute, you know, it wasn't just in the wilderness.
S7: Satan was tempting him. And not once in any way
S7: did he ever give in. And so that's our way
S7: of escape, is to go to the one who knows
S7: every temptation that we're facing. And he faced stronger ones
S7: than we've ever faced. And he sympathizes with us in
S7: our weakness. He is our way of escape. He is
S7: our rescuer.
S4: The. We're talking about this month's devotional today in The Word.
S4: I would encourage you to jump in as we are
S4: into the month of February. Just a couple of days.
S4: Get in, grab it on the app. There's paper copies.
S4: You can go on the website and get it sent
S4: to your inbox every day. Just text the word today
S4: to 855 five 7898. Text today to 855 five 7898.
S4: Doctor Barron, thank you so much for your time this morning.
S4: Quick footnote. If you get the paper copy of today
S4: in the word, if you get that in your mail,
S4: as I do, be sure to flip through to the end.
S4: They have a Q and A section each month. And
S4: this month Carl does the Q and A on his
S4: book Killing Sin talking about temptation. So be on the
S4: lookout for that. And if you do not get that
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S4: Text today to 800 555 7898.
S1: He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then
S1: he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl
S1: and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: Sometimes we take the bait. Temptation is real. We don't
S2: have to cave to it. There's a way of escape.
S2: But what do we do when we take the bait?
S2: You know we're no longer slaves to sin. We're bond
S2: servants of righteousness. And that all that indicates what? Paul's.
S2: Excuse me. What Paul's teaching us in the book of
S2: Romans is that we now have a brand new power
S2: structure that we are living in, and it's not our own.
S2: I gladly say in our coach for radio says all
S2: the time, keep sharing it. And I'm like, oh, I
S2: share it too much. And he's like, no, you got
S2: to keep sharing it. Nobody shares those kind of things.
S2: And I look, I am so grateful for the grace
S2: of God that set me free from a raging cocaine
S2: addiction and alcohol addiction and a lot of crazy living.
S2: But here's one thing I found. When I was a
S2: young follower of Jesus, I found myself in small groups
S2: and just growing like a weed man. The Bible was open.
S2: We're going. But there was one little thing that would
S2: happen that I saw a reoccurring pattern and I thought,
S2: oh my goodness, I wonder if there's a way out
S2: of this. You ever been in a small group of
S2: guys where you saw people that had the courage to
S2: share something that, like they opened up their chest cavity
S2: and they're like, this is what I'm battling with.
S3: Oh, yeah.
S2: And doesn't that give you a sense of, oh, man,
S2: how courageous is that?
S3: Yeah, yeah. And it also puts a little courage in
S3: me to be able to say, okay, hey, this person
S3: showing that you can be open and honest here. This
S3: is a safe place to do that and so I
S3: can be open and honest.
S2: It's so cool. One of the challenging things can be
S2: is when you come back the next week and everybody
S2: is sharing and somebody says, ah, man, I fell in
S2: the ditch again. And without a strategy. I've seen this
S2: happen many times where somebody comes back and pretty quick
S2: after second, third, fourth time, they're like, it's not even
S2: sometimes spoken, right. It's like, oh, you know, he or
S2: she isn't sharing anymore. And then the thought in your mind,
S2: if you're attending the group is and I wonder if
S2: they got victory over that.
S6: Thing.
S3: Right. Well, because sometimes this isn't the case all the time,
S3: but sometimes it's the case of, well, you know, I'm
S3: sharing with people, but it's not getting any better. And
S3: and so I don't want to have to go every
S3: week and say it's not getting any better. And because
S3: that's a hard thing to say, there's there is a
S3: lot of lot of shame that comes to us in
S3: that when we feel stuck.
S2: We're all in recovery. No one has arrived in the
S2: madness cycle. If you are under the influence of the spirit,
S2: the Spirit of God will convict you and you're like, okay,
S2: this has to change. But without a strategy, we have
S2: missed the mark. That's in shame. Repent. And then let's
S2: say after repentance, it's like, I'm going to do this.
S2: You ever felt like, yeah, I've got victory. We're going
S2: to do this. I'm never going back there again. Got it.
S2: You you string together a day or two or a
S2: week or a month, and then you're in a heap.
S6: Right? Yes.
S2: We've got.
S6: To go.
S2: To the point where we say, I don't care if
S2: it's gossiping in the lobby. I don't care if it's
S2: flying off the handle with anger. I don't care if
S2: it's not loving your wife as Christ loved the church,
S2: or if it's food, or if it's you started sipping wine.
S2: Now it's sipping you. Whatever. This pornography. Come on. Whatever
S2: it is, we're all in recovery. And I am so
S2: fired up because what I was asked on a podcast yesterday,
S2: what caused you to write this book? I think a
S2: couple of things. One is how many responded to that chapter.
S2: Robert Louis told me. He said when I wrote seven resolutions,
S2: he said this chapter on killing sin. Nobody's talking about
S2: it like this. And he said, this is worth this
S2: is worth the whole thing. So we took that and
S2: we kind of zoomed out and took a little bigger
S2: look at it. But it's still only 138 page book.
S2: I want to write a book that was actually read
S2: from cover to cover, because 85% of books never get read.
S2: Isn't that something? Wow, 85%. So I wanted you to
S2: read it and apply it because it's more than a
S2: book to read. It's a life to live. It's called
S2: killing sin. Conquer the one thing that is defeating you.
S2: And when I say one thing, it's never one thing.
S2: But there's usually when you guys agree. And we did
S2: this one time over a year ago. What's that one
S2: thing that's holding you back from everything that God has
S2: for you? And people know it. It comes to the
S2: top of our mind, man. We do not have to
S2: be asked too many times.
S3: No. There's always there's always something you can think of sometimes.
S3: Sometimes you can think of a couple, you know, but
S3: there's always at least one thing that comes to your
S3: mind that says, okay, this is at the forefront for
S3: me right now, and I would be walking so much
S3: stronger in the Lord if this wasn't affecting my walk.
S6: And we all have them.
S3: Yes.
S6: Everyone.
S2: And if you if you can't find it, set an
S2: appointment with Ali. She'll help you find this sucker.
S4: Wow.
S2: So here's the deal. I've got something really cool to announce,
S2: because share is coming up in March, and it's going
S2: to be the premium, which all that means for gift
S2: of any amount that's given. We're going to send it
S2: to you free, but we're going to prime the pump
S2: on this thing, and I'm so fired up. Now, if
S2: you're outside of Chicagoland, I want to tell you there's
S2: talk about getting me out of Chicagoland to do this.
S2: And it's it's worth getting on a bird and doing it.
S2: So we're going to work on that. But if you're
S2: in Chicagoland, we're doing a book signing and it's totally
S2: for free. All we're going to encourage you to do
S2: is when shear rolls around, would you be a part
S2: of this thing? So come get a free copy of
S2: my book, Killing Sin. I'm going to sign it over
S2: to you. We're going to have a party there. Ali,
S2: you got all the details and any other mustard you
S2: want to add?
S4: It's going to be Saturday, March 1st. So coming up
S4: just in a couple of weeks out at Villa Park
S4: at Premium Motors. Villa Park is in DuPage County in
S4: the suburbs here in Chicagoland. So if that's within a
S4: rocks throw from where you're at or you can get to,
S4: I would love to invite you out between nine and noon.
S4: Just stop in. You don't have to stay long. You
S4: can grab a book, get it signed, grab a cup
S4: of coffee, say hello, and then get on with your Saturday.
S4: But would love to get you out there to meet
S4: you to get this book. Just text the word book
S4: for the details 805 5570 898. Text book to (800) 555-7898.
S2: I am so fired up to meet you. I really am.
S2: And there is, um, there's a there's something going on.
S2: It's with a lot of young people, but it's starting
S2: to bubble up in the church. I am seeing a
S2: spiritual hunger for doing business with God at a at
S2: a real serious discipleship level. And one of those involves
S2: just dragging out of the shadows, bringing into the light
S2: something that has been defeating you. And we want that
S2: for you. So I hope to see you March 1st,
S2: nine to noon, three hour window. We want you to
S2: get it on your calendar early here. And it's there's
S2: no charge for this book. I'm just going to sign
S2: it over to you and say, God bless you and
S2: shake your hand. Our hope is that our hope is
S2: that you would be a part of share when it
S2: rolls around. And this is a premium that we're giving out.
S2: And man, I'm more I'm so I'm so thrilled because
S2: I don't know, I can get a face in my
S2: mind's eye of someone breaking free from something that's been
S2: hounding them and living in the shadows and mocking them
S2: for 20 years, two months, whatever it is. So we're grateful.
S2: Just text. You want the details. It's going to be
S2: at Premium Motors in Villa Park from nine to noon
S2: on March 1st. Just text the word book. Just book
S2: to 800 555 7898. Book to (800) 555-7898. And it's going
S2: to be quite a party. Isn't that going to be
S2: a party, Ali?
S4: It's going to be great. I'm excited. We'll have some
S4: moody folks out there to greet you as well. Pick
S4: up some, you know, some little moody swag. Text book
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S1: She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.
S1: Super die is in the crew. It's Carl and crew
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S2: Okay, we're going to go sluice in here. Let me
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S3: Only if you sluice for gold.
S2: Yeah. Yeah. Not not not you read Wikipedia? That ain't
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S2: That's what we need. We need an expert like you.
S4: I mean, there was my favorite show when I was
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S6: Oh, there we go.
S4: They did have a gold mining episode where they heard
S4: that there could be goals. So they they left, left
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S6: What.
S2: Guys she knows every episode.
S3: There's gold in them there.
S6: Hills.
S4: This is like, you know, me and my little bonnet.
S6: Yeah, she had a bonnet. All of her sisters.
S2: Had.
S6: A bonnet.
S4: Yeah, we did matching bonnets we got for Christmas because
S4: this show, we thought we were the Ingles sisters.
S6: Hold it.
S2: Did your brother have suspenders?
S4: No. I mean, we.
S6: He.
S3: Should have.
S6: Done that.
S4: We couldn't. We had to. He was the youngest with
S4: three older sisters. So we I mean, we tried to
S4: dress him up and stuff, but I think my parents
S4: shut that down wisely.
S2: Proud of your.
S6: Dad? Poor guy.
S2: No, that ain't happening.
S4: He's a wise man. He's. He's survived three dominant personality.
S4: Older sisters.
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S2: That was a dick. Okay. Oh, boy. So here's the deal, guys.
S2: If you have sluiced or panned for gold, you got
S2: to call in 805, 55, 78, 98.
S4: We just have two yeses. Or I've panned for gold
S4: on text message. But we got to hear from you
S4: for this to count. So tell us if you've done this. 855, five, 78, 98. This.
S4: I don't think this is a common experience.
S3: I don't think so either.
S2: Is it? It is in Alaska.
S4: Really?
S2: Oh, yeah.
S4: Even to this day.
S2: Yeah. People have gold pan art. Like, there's artists that
S2: take gold pans and they do artistic landscapes. It used
S2: to be super popular. And then everybody had one of these,
S2: and then it's like, oh, everybody's got one of these.
S2: But I mean, it's so common.
S4: Like you would buy a gold pan and there was
S4: art in it.
S2: Oh, yeah, there's art. So they took a clean gold pan,
S2: and the old ones didn't have ridges like these new
S2: fangled plastic ones that have ridges. It's kind of they're
S2: really getting high tech now, but the old ones were
S2: just pans. So they're shallow pans that you washed water
S2: around in a circular fashion. Got all the debris out. Dirt,
S2: big rocks, ugly stuff. And then there's the gold in theory.
S2: Didn't work for me. But where is it? I'm going
S2: to stay on the horn here. We don't we don't
S2: have anyone that's done gold panning or sluicing.
S3: Well, we have, uh, if I'm seeing the phone correctly,
S3: we have your wife calling in. Janine, is this you?
S8: Yeah. Yeah, I've gone panning for gold quite a few times.
S3: What did you know that, Carl?
S2: Uh, no. Here's what's weird. My phone box is broken.
S2: I don't see anyone calling in.
S3: Oh, really? Yeah.
S2: Oh, so I got totally shocked. Uh, babe, what are
S2: you are you doing this morning? And tell me, am
S2: I learning something about you that I did not know?
S8: Well, you know, I grew up in Colorado, and they
S8: have these, um, rocky rivers everywhere, and my dad was
S8: really into it. We had the little miners cabins near
S8: our home up in the mountains in Colorado, and we'd
S8: go out panning for gold.
S2: Okay. Yeah. I did not know this. 37 years. My
S2: bride calls in to our radio show and is telling
S2: me stuff I did not know. Babe, did you ever
S2: find gold?
S8: We found fool's gold. Um, but I have to add
S8: another piece. You know, I was really into the little
S8: house on the prairie, too. Like Ali and I had
S8: the little bonnet. Yes, I had the dress, and I watched.
S8: I read every book. Yeah.
S4: So that's. Oh, we have that in common. Thank you.
S4: I'm glad you had the bonnet.
S5: Hey, babe.
S4: That's amazing.
S2: Babe? Yeah. What do you say we go gold pan
S2: in the summer. Let's go up.
S5: North.
S2: Seriously, you and me.
S5: Let's head north.
S2: Let's. Let's go north. Let's try to find some gold.
S2: You and me. Wouldn't that be a fun date, babe?
S8: I think all the gold's already taken out. So, anyway,
S8: it was a fun childhood thing that we did with
S8: my dad. So, anyway, travel and gold panning. Yeah.
S2: Okay. Thanks for calling in.
S3: That's great.
S2: Okay. My dad's full of surprises. I did not know
S2: that she was gold panning with her dad. How did
S2: I not know that in 37 years of marriage, I
S2: thought I'd asked her all these questions.
S3: You learn something new every day.
S2: Okay? We got. Well, we got our gold panner. Now
S2: we got to coming up here. What in the world
S2: are we panning for this? This whole sifting principle is
S2: really biblical, isn't it, Ali?
S4: It is because we're called to do this with our thoughts.
S4: You want to extract out the good stuff and leave
S4: all the waste behind.
S1: You can take them out of Alaska, but you can't
S1: take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.
S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: Yeah, we're in this together, guys. We're all in it together.
S2: What a powerful passage of scripture here. And, Ali, you've
S2: heard this. Why don't you read it and then give
S2: your story on this? Because this is the ultimate sifting
S2: process of getting bad thinking or things raised up against God.
S2: Things that are not part of the gospel out of
S2: our life. Tearing down these strongholds. Taking thoughts captive. What
S2: a powerful text, huh?
S4: In Second Corinthians ten, starting with verse, verse three, for
S4: though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging
S4: war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our
S4: warfare are not of the flesh, but have divine power
S4: to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion
S4: raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought
S4: captive to obey Christ. I have a mentor who uses
S4: this verse often when she prays for people, for people,
S4: for situations. And the first couple times it kind of
S4: caught me off guard because when I when I hear
S4: this verse.
S5: Strong.
S4: I think about the, you know, the, the real in
S4: besetting sins. It's kind of what I, how I've heard
S4: this verse used like, you know, somebody maybe stuck in
S4: pornography or lust or something, clearly that those thoughts need
S4: to be taken captive. There's a warfare approach to kind
S4: of taking that ground back, but she uses it when
S4: she's praying for somebody who's anxious because those anxious thoughts,
S4: anxiety has elevated itself. It has raised itself up against
S4: the knowledge of God, the Word of God that says
S4: we can be anxious for nothing. And I'm like, whoa, okay.
S4: That's a different way that every single mindset that you
S4: can think of, every wrong way of thinking, does this.
S4: It elevates itself above the Word of God. Therefore, it
S4: needs to be taken captive. And for some reason, it
S4: has just expanded my view of how to how to
S4: use and apply this verse. Hearing it prayed for situations
S4: that I wouldn't have necessarily thought necessitated it. But every
S4: mindset anxious, fearful, angry, proud, lustful all of those mindsets
S4: have to be brought down.
S2: It's so good, Ali. I'm so pumped that you shared that,
S2: because a lot of times we look at this passage
S2: and it's strong, man. I mean, we are destroying arguments
S2: and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God.
S2: All of that rubble, debris, mud. Using, using this gold
S2: panning metaphor again, all that stuff that dilutes or hides
S2: the nuggets of who we are in Jesus, how he
S2: operates in this world, how the church is to function.
S2: What do we do when we get tempted? How do
S2: we handle adversity in the body of Christ? Why is
S2: there Disorder and every evil practice. So mind below and go, oh, God, there's.
S2: Envy and selfish ambition. I mean, it's how cool is this?
S5: You know.
S4: Because we think you think about your gold mining metaphor.
S4: We can think about those things as worthless. The the
S4: the dirt, the mud, all that stuff is sort of worthless.
S4: It doesn't matter much when it comes to our thoughts, though.
S4: I don't think we realize the threat that these lofty
S4: opinions and wrong mindsets pose, that they're not just sort
S4: of this harmless thing that just is sort of there,
S4: but it shouldn't be. It actually is opposing the Word
S4: of God, raising itself up, elevating it above the knowledge
S4: of God. So when we look at it, we can't
S4: look at it as like this harmless sort of thing that,
S4: oh yeah, it probably shouldn't be there. It's like, no,
S4: taking it captive is an aggressive move, but we have
S4: to look at wrong mindsets with that kind of viewpoint.
S2: We touched on this a couple of days ago. It's not.
S2: Janet Parshall interviewed someone about this. I just heard a
S2: bit of it. My bride said it was epic. And
S2: it's not the we're not in this New Age movement.
S2: We're in a New Thought movement. And it's a twist
S2: on New Age that's actually more subtle. But we've talked
S2: about this in the past. But be careful with this
S2: language of I can imagine this into being, or I
S2: can manifest this in my mind that has no business
S2: in the gospel followers mindset or lips. So we got
S2: to pull that stuff out now. Does what we think
S2: about matter? Yeah, but you can manifest all you want,
S2: but God wants to do immeasurably more than you can
S2: ask or imagine.
S5: Yes.
S2: So why are you limiting God by trying to manifest
S2: a new car in your front yard? When God has
S2: so much more? Yeah, and I'm not against new cars.
S2: Take it captive. Give it to God today.