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S1: Very happy Tuesday to you. Thrilled. We're going to spend

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S6: As the war with Iran continues, a diplomatic front is emerging.

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S1: For those of us who traveled to Israel knowing that

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S1: Yes, it certainly does. The Lord has a sense of humor. Wow.

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S1: First of all, from the sources that you have still

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S1: You know, that's interesting. You said that. I'm not surprised.

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S1: Wow. That's fantastic. And you know, you said something important

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S10: how we do it. That's very secret. But we are

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S10: giving Bibles to to people. Now the Christians in Iran

442
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S10: are on fire. They are sharing. They're loving people in

443
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S10: these dark days. They are light. They're salt. They're serving

444
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S10: at the same time, the Christians in Iran. This is

445
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S10: a prayer request. If this regime stays, there will be

446
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S10: an ugly major wave of persecution for Christians. This regime

447
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S10: will start killing Christians because they see us as their enemies.

448
00:23:27,550 --> 00:23:30,670
S10: They will arrest and kill. Many, many Christians and Christians

449
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S10: know that the whole country wants this regime to change.

450
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S10: But Christians have their own reason because right now they

451
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S10: are sharing the gospel. Their lives are in danger that

452
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S10: right now they are being arrested. But if the regime stays,

453
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S10: they will be killed in masses. Christians will be arrested

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S10: and killed in masses. Let's pray. Let's bind the spirit

455
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S10: of Islam, bind the spirit of death and violence in Islam.

456
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S10: Because it's not. It hasn't gone away. It's still there.

457
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S10: But we have the power to bind that spirit and

458
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S10: set the captives free. Let's do that.

459
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S1: Amen. Oh, that is exactly why I love talking with you.

460
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S1: So let me tell my friends again where they can

461
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S1: learn more about Iran Alive Ministries, the websites, the name

462
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S1: of the ministry. Iran alive dot o r g. Read

463
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S1: the stories, be moved to prayer and action. And if

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S1: the Lord leads you financially support the amazing work that

465
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S1: they're doing. There's the headlines and then there's the headlines

466
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S1: being made in heaven. And as C.S. Lewis said, Aslan

467
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S1: is on the move. Something's happening in Iran. So be

468
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S1: praying because this is history in the making before our eyes.

469
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S1: Thank you. Hormoz back after this. Anyone can read the

470
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S1: news every day. And in the market, we're committed to

471
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S1: telling the news as seen through the lens of Scripture.

472
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S1: As Christians, we must be informed about what's going on

473
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S1: in the world and respond appropriately. When you become a

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S1: partial partner, you ensure that we continue here on your station,

475
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S1: equipping the church to discuss current events using the Bible

476
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S1: as our solid foundation. Why not become a partial partner today?

477
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S1: Call 877 Janet 58 or go online to In the

478
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S1: Market with Janet Parshall. Aren't you glad that the Lord

479
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S1: gave us the word? I don't know about you, but

480
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S1: I'm so glad I don't have to wake up every

481
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S1: morning and stumble in the dark and try to figure

482
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S1: out what truth is. And I love the fact that

483
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S1: in the classic Pilgrim's Progress, John Bunyan refers to the

484
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S1: Word of God as the map. And we certainly need

485
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S1: that map to help us figure out how we go

486
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S1: from East of Eden before we cross over to the

487
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S1: Celestial City again to borrow from Bunyan. And you know,

488
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S1: I don't know about you, but one of the personal

489
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S1: aspects of Scripture that I love so much are the biographies.

490
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S1: I am so thankful that not only is Jesus there

491
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S1: from Genesis and every single book all the way to revelation,

492
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S1: but that he includes stories of real people. And I

493
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S1: know our temptation is to look at these biographies and think, well,

494
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S1: they're superheroes, right? When we had once upon a time,

495
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S1: brick and mortar Christian bookstores, you could go in and

496
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S1: buy a superhero of Joshua or Daniel or Noah, and

497
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S1: that's what we were. We were looking at them thinking,

498
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S1: they're superheroes and they're not. When you really roll up

499
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S1: your sleeves and quiet the world and set your mind

500
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S1: on things above, you realize that these are fallen, fallen,

501
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S1: fractured people filled with foibles and fears, and they're just

502
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S1: like you and me. And I think that's reflective of

503
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S1: God's love, that he lets us see that these are

504
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S1: flawed people who pressed into a great God, who let

505
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S1: them experience supernatural things because they put their trust in him.

506
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S1: So we're going to talk about that. We're going to

507
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S1: talk about how God is always there for us, even

508
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S1: when we can't sense that he's there for us. And

509
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S1: we're going to talk to someone who loves to write

510
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S1: about the Bible. Shannon Bream. Oh, wait, did that surprise you?

511
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S1: Shannon Bream, Fox News Bible. Let me connect the dots

512
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S1: for you. She serves as the anchor of Fox News Sunday.

513
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S1: She is also serving as the chief legal correspondent for

514
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S1: the network and host of the podcast Living the Dream.

515
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S1: Just love that title. But today she joins me as

516
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S1: someone who has delivered four straight New York Times number

517
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S1: one bestsellers, and the newest book that she's written, Nothing

518
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S1: is Impossible with God is in fact, the fourth. In fact,

519
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S1: it debuted as number one on The New York Times.

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S1: So that raises a whole series of questions, Shannon, that

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S1: I want to talk to you about. You know, I

522
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S1: could talk about the fact that you practice law, Employment.

523
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S1: Labor law for a while that you went to liberty. Sheldon.

524
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S1: There go flames. Love, liberty. Shout out to one of

525
00:27:24,350 --> 00:27:27,590
S1: my favorite schools, then go on. You get a law degree.

526
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S1: You work in various markets. You get involved in beauty

527
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S1: contests along the way. One ends up paying for law school. Fabulous.

528
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S1: You work in markets like Charlotte, North Carolina. You come

529
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S1: to DC, you work at WRC TV here, and you

530
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S1: meet Brit Hume, who opens the door for an audition. Actually,

531
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S1: he opened the door that got it already opened for you.

532
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:47,230
S1: You get hired by Fox and the rest is history.

533
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S1: But you write these books that are absolutely 1,000% grounded

534
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S1: in the Word of God. Every one of them, whether

535
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S1: they're love stories or stories of women in the Bible.

536
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S1: And I think to myself, wait a minute, with your background,

537
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S1: you could be writing for law review articles. You could

538
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S1: be talking about beauty, external beauty, because of something that

539
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S1: you've experienced and God has gifted you with. But you

540
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S1: come in like a laser beam, always writing these books

541
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S1: about the Word of God. So it raises a bunch

542
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S1: of questions. Are these books reflective of your private time

543
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S1: in the word. Did you not tell anybody and took

544
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S1: a semester off and went to a seminary? Where did

545
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S1: you learn to dive so deep in the Word of God?

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S11: Well, Janet, thank you so much for that kind introduction.

547
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S11: It is always such a joy to be with you.

548
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S11: You know, when I was at liberty, you take so

549
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S11: many Bible classes and theology classes there. I'm one class

550
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S11: short of theology minor, so I should just do it

551
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S11: online and get it done. Um, but you know what

552
00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:46,090
S11: I was being poured into from the time I was

553
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S11: a child. I dedicated this latest book to my mom

554
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S11: because she was such a steady Bible teacher in her

555
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S11: own home. You know, in many respects with me. So

556
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S11: I was blessed to go to Christian school and be

557
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S11: in a really strong biblical church, a couple different ones

558
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S11: growing up. And so I just had such a blessing

559
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S11: of people pouring scripture into me. And it's part of

560
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S11: my daily practice every day to spend time in the word,

561
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S11: to spend time in prayer. And every time I do

562
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S11: one of these books, it's a different collection of stories,

563
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S11: and I feel like, yes, I know these stories. Yes,

564
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S11: I think I know these people. But now I feel like, oh,

565
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S11: I've got so many questions. I can't wait to get

566
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S11: to heaven. Only by Jesus's grace and salvation so that

567
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S11: I can ask them so many more questions about these stories.

568
00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:31,870
S11: But my hope is always in putting them together that

569
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S11: maybe somebody who wouldn't pick up a Bible or go

570
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S11: to church will maybe see the title and say, huh,

571
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S11: what's that about? And then go to Scripture, go to

572
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S11: church after they are encouraged by some of these stories.

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S1: Well, and I love your answer, by the way, and

574
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S1: it creates an interesting dichotomy that I want to talk about,

575
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S1: because you have made it very public that your job

576
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S1: as a Fox News personality is to not give your opinion.

577
00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:58,070
S1: Very rare, by the way, in your world, you are

578
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S1: just it's dragnet. It's the facts, ma'am, just the facts.

579
00:30:00,510 --> 00:30:02,990
S1: And that kind of balanced approach is really what the

580
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S1: standard of good journalism should be all about. But boy,

581
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S1: when you write these books, there is zero ambiguity. I mean,

582
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S1: you just laid the facts out biblically. In fact, in

583
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S1: the last chapter of this book, I thought, well, if

584
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S1: somebody was smart, they'd take that whole last chapter, condense

585
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S1: it and use it as a gospel track, because you

586
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S1: lay out the message of salvation so beautifully and so

587
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S1: historically at the end. And of course, I mean, it's

588
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S1: the ultimate story of nothing is impossible because God made

589
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S1: things possible because of what Christ did for us on

590
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S1: the cross. You have you do not waiver. In fact,

591
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S1: you talk about Elijah. I'll talk about him in a minute.

592
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S1: There's no limping between two opinions for you when it

593
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S1: comes to what you read in the scripture. I find

594
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S1: that interesting. Is it a release? Is it your commitment?

595
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S1: Is it the definer of who you are? Is it

596
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S1: because you can put down your journalist hat and you

597
00:30:49,170 --> 00:30:50,810
S1: can put on the crown as a daughter of the

598
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S1: king and say, here's what the word says.

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00:30:53,650 --> 00:30:56,170
S11: Yes, and what a hopeful thing it is. And I

600
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S11: think all of us who are believers think, why are

601
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S11: we not shouting this from the rooftops? I mean, we

602
00:31:00,730 --> 00:31:03,010
S11: all have different jobs and different places in the home

603
00:31:03,010 --> 00:31:05,290
S11: and in the workplace and in school, but we're all

604
00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:07,850
S11: sort of on mission when we're out there sharing the

605
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S11: goodness of Christ and being his ambassadors. So this is

606
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S11: a collection of stories of overcomers. And it was always

607
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S11: my plan. Of course, we close with the ultimate overcomer. Jesus,

608
00:31:17,270 --> 00:31:19,630
S11: you know, coming to be fully man, fully God, but

609
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S11: experience all of the difficult things we go through, knowing

610
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S11: what he was going to face in that trip to

611
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:28,190
S11: the cross and that brutal, brutal sacrifice and journey that

612
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S11: he made. But he's the ultimate overcomer of sin and

613
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:34,910
S11: of death. And that just feeds hope into every other

614
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S11: bit of scripture. Everything else we know about the word

615
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:40,430
S11: and about how God has been working over time. And

616
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:41,990
S11: you're right, I feel like so many of these Old

617
00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:44,310
S11: Testament stories, there are a lot of them in this book.

618
00:31:44,550 --> 00:31:49,110
S11: There are there are hints forward to the ultimate Savior.

619
00:31:49,150 --> 00:31:52,710
S11: No more sacrifices, no more, you know, debts that can't

620
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:55,510
S11: be paid, that have to be paid over and over again.

621
00:31:55,550 --> 00:31:58,709
S11: When Christ came, he settled that for us forever. So

622
00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:01,190
S11: for me, it's just such a hopeful thing. And it's

623
00:32:01,190 --> 00:32:03,910
S11: always been I try to keep it the center and

624
00:32:03,910 --> 00:32:07,070
S11: the focus of my life. And so, um, it's, it's

625
00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:09,510
S11: good news that I just am humbled and so, so

626
00:32:09,510 --> 00:32:11,730
S11: grateful just to be a messenger to share it. And

627
00:32:11,730 --> 00:32:14,209
S11: I thank the Lord for the platform he's given me

628
00:32:14,210 --> 00:32:15,010
S11: to do that.

629
00:32:15,050 --> 00:32:17,930
S1: Well, in that same vein, and I know you won't

630
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:20,210
S1: say names and I wouldn't ask you to, but in

631
00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:22,930
S1: your capacity as someone who goes right down the middle,

632
00:32:22,930 --> 00:32:24,970
S1: neither to the right or the left doesn't give an opinion,

633
00:32:24,970 --> 00:32:27,170
S1: but simply reports and digs into the story to find

634
00:32:27,170 --> 00:32:30,450
S1: the facts. Are there people who know because you're unashamed

635
00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:32,610
S1: of the gospel of Jesus Christ? You are a living

636
00:32:32,650 --> 00:32:36,690
S1: epistle in such a beautiful ambassador for Christ to people

637
00:32:36,690 --> 00:32:39,209
S1: that whose names we might recognize ever come up to

638
00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:41,770
S1: you and say, so tell me about this Jesus of yours.

639
00:32:43,210 --> 00:32:45,570
S11: You know, I've had people come to my office at

640
00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:48,210
S11: work that sometimes are in crisis in their lives, or

641
00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:50,290
S11: a loved one is and will say, I don't really

642
00:32:50,290 --> 00:32:52,730
S11: know this whole religion thing, but I know you know

643
00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:55,250
S11: God and that you pray. And could you pray for

644
00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:57,690
S11: my family or pray for me? And that is just

645
00:32:57,690 --> 00:33:01,130
S11: the most humbling privilege to to be able to do that.

646
00:33:01,170 --> 00:33:03,970
S11: I've had, you know, talks with a lot of lawmakers

647
00:33:03,970 --> 00:33:07,530
S11: and prominent folks like you. You say you'd recognize their names. Um,

648
00:33:07,530 --> 00:33:09,970
S11: some of them boldly live their faith out loud. Some

649
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:12,710
S11: of them are more quiet about it, but I find

650
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:16,990
S11: that there are some beautiful places of bipartisanship with Bible

651
00:33:16,990 --> 00:33:20,790
S11: studies on the Hill lawmakers, their staffers, those kinds of things.

652
00:33:20,830 --> 00:33:23,310
S11: And so there are good people of faith who do

653
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:26,270
S11: want to talk about Jesus all through Washington.

654
00:33:26,270 --> 00:33:29,990
S1: Amen. Shannon, you and I understand Washington, both of us

655
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S1: being here. And I'm so glad you said that to

656
00:33:31,630 --> 00:33:34,350
S1: people who are listening all across the country, because I

657
00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:36,630
S1: know that they must sometimes think, can anything good come

658
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:39,750
S1: out of Washington? Well, whether it comes out good or not,

659
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S1: the bottom line, it didn't. Paul direct his young protege

660
00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:45,310
S1: Timothy to pray for those in authority. And what you

661
00:33:45,310 --> 00:33:47,630
S1: just said reminds us that you don't know. I mean,

662
00:33:47,670 --> 00:33:49,390
S1: there's a God shaped void in the heart of every

663
00:33:49,390 --> 00:33:51,190
S1: single one of us. Even if you get to use

664
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:54,150
S1: a special elevator on Capitol Hill, you still need the Lord.

665
00:33:54,190 --> 00:33:56,310
S1: You're up for re-election. You can have your name on

666
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:58,150
S1: the cover of time magazine if you want. You get

667
00:33:58,150 --> 00:34:00,590
S1: the best tables at the Capitol Grill, but the bottom

668
00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:03,350
S1: line is, when you die, do you know Jesus? And

669
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:06,670
S1: that hole is there by divine design. So isn't that

670
00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:08,600
S1: a catalyst for us to be praying for those who

671
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,440
S1: are in authority.

672
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,720
S11: 100%, and we should care about their safety, about their wisdom,

673
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,719
S11: about their discernment. You know, because the Lord talks about you,

674
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,960
S11: you want the leaders in the place where you live

675
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,280
S11: to do well and to prosper and to be safe.

676
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,280
S11: And they you want good people to be in leadership

677
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,239
S11: and for people to be guided by the right hand

678
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,359
S11: of God. I mean, I pray that as I know

679
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,719
S11: you do for our leaders as well. And there are

680
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,360
S11: some leaders there who are very open about their faith.

681
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,440
S11: I think about speaker Mike Johnson, who, you know, I

682
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,600
S11: knew him over the years when he was an attorney

683
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,879
S11: out doing religious freedom cases. And then eventually, you know,

684
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,080
S11: kind of being a young, um, you know, quieter member

685
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560
S11: of Congress. This is a man, as you know, he

686
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,480
S11: did not want to be speaker. He was not seeking this.

687
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,880
S11: And the thing that's beautiful about his story is he

688
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,480
S11: holds it so loosely, he relies on the Lord so heavily.

689
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,239
S11: He and his wife, Kelly, please pray for them. Um,

690
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,080
S11: they're on my list, along with a lot of other

691
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,480
S11: people all through Washington. Um, but he's somebody who doesn't

692
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,420
S11: cling to power because he knows the way that it

693
00:35:07,420 --> 00:35:10,100
S11: came about was only through, you know, the Lord opening

694
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:11,939
S11: and closing doors like he does in all of our lives,

695
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:16,500
S11: in our secular spaces, in our religious spaces, in our homes. Um,

696
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:18,900
S11: and he firmly believes, listen, when God's done with me

697
00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:20,980
S11: in this role or I'm not useful or this is

698
00:35:20,980 --> 00:35:22,940
S11: not where he wants me this season anymore, I won't

699
00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:26,779
S11: be the speaker anymore. And, um, he's able from that place,

700
00:35:26,980 --> 00:35:29,100
S11: I think to try to lead with a lot of integrity.

701
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:32,820
S11: And like I said, there are bipartisan conversations and Bible

702
00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:35,820
S11: studies that he's a part of. So there is, um,

703
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:38,580
S11: you know, across the aisle a conversation about how faith

704
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:41,020
S11: should inform what we do in the way that folks

705
00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:42,819
S11: are voting on the Hill. I know that to be

706
00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:44,460
S11: true of Democrats and Republicans.

707
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:47,259
S1: Yes. You just heard that from Shannon Bream. So take

708
00:35:47,260 --> 00:35:49,900
S1: that to heart and in your quiet time, be praying

709
00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:52,739
S1: for those that God has placed into authority. When we

710
00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:54,419
S1: come back, I want to dig some more into this

711
00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:57,460
S1: fabulous book. I love it because it's nothing but biographies,

712
00:35:57,460 --> 00:36:00,700
S1: but it's divided into three parts overcoming when you don't

713
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:03,820
S1: understand God's plan. Okay, raise your hand if you've experienced that.

714
00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:06,879
S1: Overcoming when it's hard to love others. Oh yeah. And

715
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,879
S1: number three, overcoming when God feels far away. And in

716
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,760
S1: every one of those segments, Shannon does this marvelous job

717
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,879
S1: of breaking down a study of their life and how

718
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,760
S1: they pressed into God when it seemed like it was

719
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,880
S1: the impossible. But as the title reflects, nothing is impossible

720
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,919
S1: with God. The fourth New York Times best selling book

721
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960
S1: that Shannon Bream has authored, it is fabulous, just like

722
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,240
S1: all of the other books. Maura Shannon right after this.

723
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,080
S1: So when I think of Shannon Bream, three B's come

724
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,200
S1: to mind beauty, brains, and Bible. All of them. All

725
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,419
S1: the time. She is a four times New York Times

726
00:37:05,420 --> 00:37:07,819
S1: best selling author. So she wrote first Finding the Bright Side,

727
00:37:07,820 --> 00:37:09,779
S1: which is more or less a memoir. Then she wrote

728
00:37:09,780 --> 00:37:12,100
S1: the women of the Bible speak. Then the mothers and

729
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,420
S1: daughters of the Bible speak. Then the love stories of

730
00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:18,020
S1: the Bible speak, and now nothing is impossible with God.

731
00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:22,780
S1: It's subtitled 11 Heroes, one God, Endless Lessons in Overcoming.

732
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:25,100
S1: And again she breaks the book up into three parts,

733
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:27,859
S1: starting with overcoming. When you don't understand God's plan. There

734
00:37:27,860 --> 00:37:30,739
S1: she looks at Gideon, Moses, and Peter. Part two is

735
00:37:30,739 --> 00:37:33,660
S1: overcoming when it's hard to love others starts. No surprise

736
00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:37,380
S1: there with Joseph and then Jonah, Daniel and Nehemiah. And

737
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:40,100
S1: the third one overcoming when God feels far away and

738
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:43,700
S1: she looks at Noah, Joshua, Elijah, and then of course

739
00:37:43,739 --> 00:37:47,900
S1: ends with Jesus. All of these are fabulous characters in study.

740
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:49,940
S1: And as I said, I love the fact that they're

741
00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:52,859
S1: flesh and blood. They're not superheroes, they're not fabrications. They're

742
00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:57,140
S1: not mythic people. They're real people who had flawed problems

743
00:37:57,140 --> 00:38:00,660
S1: and characters all. But God used them in a powerful way.

744
00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:03,120
S1: And so I chose one just to look at real

745
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,000
S1: quickly with you, Shannon. And that was the business with Elijah,

746
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,360
S1: because I think particularly you're talking to people who have

747
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,520
S1: a kind of spiritual fatigue. They don't feel that God

748
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,080
S1: is there. So, so much of what I loved about

749
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,560
S1: the book is that you remind us first and foremost

750
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,279
S1: of the character of God, and then you change our

751
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,319
S1: perspective by realizing that based on his character, he is

752
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,480
S1: a God who can be trusted. So here's Elijah who

753
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,239
S1: has these unbelievable mountaintop, no pun intended, experiences, but at

754
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,080
S1: the same time is hiding in a cave. I mean,

755
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,040
S1: I love this, and at the point where he's really

756
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,440
S1: just so exasperated, he wants to be done with life.

757
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,839
S1: He probably didn't feel like God was close by. But

758
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,359
S1: as you write in the book, feelings are fallible. They're

759
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,080
S1: not facts, and it's important that we understand the two.

760
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,799
S1: So when you extrapolate the life of Elijah, how can

761
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
S1: we look at him and say, listen, he was obedient.

762
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,120
S1: He had ups and downs. He was being chased. He

763
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,040
S1: had fear for his life. But time and time again,

764
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,560
S1: God met him and supplied what he needed, whether it

765
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,700
S1: was a friend in Obadiah or whether it was a

766
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:02,900
S1: raven giving him food.

767
00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:05,739
S11: Oh, I just love it. I think that he is

768
00:39:05,739 --> 00:39:08,100
S11: such a great character study in all of those things

769
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:11,259
S11: that really mirror our life as believers that, you know,

770
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:13,140
S11: there were times he was so bold and brave when

771
00:39:13,180 --> 00:39:15,020
S11: God told him, listen, you got to go take a

772
00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:18,060
S11: message to King Ahab, who was incredibly wicked and a

773
00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:21,100
S11: terrible person and married to Queen Jezebel, also very frightening

774
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:25,420
S11: and awful. And Elijah has this bravery like, okay, and

775
00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:27,580
S11: he goes and he takes these messages that are difficult.

776
00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:30,340
S11: He knows, um, it could cost him his life, especially

777
00:39:30,340 --> 00:39:32,100
S11: when you're going to the king with this message that

778
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,460
S11: is not going to be well received. And we see

779
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:37,180
S11: over and over again how he is so brave, and

780
00:39:37,180 --> 00:39:40,259
S11: he witnesses in his part of these incredible miracles, you know,

781
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,859
S11: the showdown with the prophets of Baal. I mean, it's

782
00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:45,940
S11: one of the most spectacular, miraculous stories in the Bible.

783
00:39:46,140 --> 00:39:48,940
S11: And even having experienced all of that, he goes on

784
00:39:48,940 --> 00:39:50,899
S11: the run at one point. He is driven at points

785
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:54,100
S11: by fear and as you said, fatigue and loneliness. And

786
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,779
S11: those can be things we all experience in life. And

787
00:39:56,780 --> 00:39:58,859
S11: while he's kind of, you know, hemming and hawing with God,

788
00:39:58,860 --> 00:40:01,239
S11: God does meet him where he's at. He will meet

789
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,560
S11: us where we are. When we're worried, when we feel alone.

790
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,120
S11: You know, Elijah's trying to argue. I'm the only one

791
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,520
S11: left out here representing you, God, and fighting for what's good.

792
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,560
S11: You know, the Lord reminds them, first of all, you're

793
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,600
S11: never alone. As a believer. You have the Holy Spirit.

794
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,000
S11: You have the Lord with you. But he says to him,

795
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,520
S11: there's a remnant. You're not fighting this alone. And what

796
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,200
S11: an encouragement to him. But I mean, Elijah's story beginning

797
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,399
S11: to end. I mean, there were so many miracles that

798
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,600
S11: came through his story and through what he was doing.

799
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,120
S11: And yet even with all of that, he had downtimes

800
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,160
S11: where it's okay, we're all going to have on our

801
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,120
S11: journey of faith. Valleys in deep, dark places. I mean,

802
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,839
S11: for me, those have been some of the places I've

803
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,400
S11: had the clearest presence of God, though I wouldn't choose them.

804
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,440
S11: But man, Elijah's story is full of so much encouragement.

805
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,960
S1: Yeah. On that note, Shannon, only because you make it

806
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,000
S1: public and you've made it public several times. You were

807
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,359
S1: struggling with this up to a certain point. Undiagnosable eye

808
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,100
S1: disease that was causing unremitting pain. On a scale of

809
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,340
S1: 1 to 10. It was ten plus all the time.

810
00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:02,580
S1: And you finally, you really made it a matter of

811
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:04,900
S1: prayer that the Lord would lead you to the right doctor.

812
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:07,540
S1: He gives you this diagnosis, but then ends with the words,

813
00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:10,500
S1: but it's not curable. You leave and you talk about

814
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:14,060
S1: sobbing in your car afterwards, because now you've got this,

815
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:16,380
S1: this Damocles sword over your head that says, okay, now

816
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:17,900
S1: we've given it a name so you don't have to

817
00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:20,940
S1: guess anymore, but it's never going to go away. What

818
00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:23,540
S1: I loved about this is that rather than getting mad

819
00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:26,580
S1: at God, you learned how to press in even more.

820
00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:30,140
S1: That doesn't happen overnight. That comes from developing some spiritual muscle,

821
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:30,940
S1: it seems to me.

822
00:41:32,060 --> 00:41:33,939
S11: Well, I thank the Lord that by the time I

823
00:41:33,940 --> 00:41:36,740
S11: was at that crisis in my life, I'd seen his goodness,

824
00:41:36,739 --> 00:41:40,500
S11: I'd seen his faithfulness before. He'd worked through really difficult things.

825
00:41:40,739 --> 00:41:43,900
S11: And so, yeah, I mean, I have friends who, you know,

826
00:41:44,260 --> 00:41:46,500
S11: have reacted in different ways. They lose a loved one

827
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,060
S11: and they're angry at the Lord. And I understand that too.

828
00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:52,299
S11: Or they face a diagnosis or something difficult. I've had

829
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:54,020
S11: my fights with the Lord. And gosh, we see that

830
00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:55,020
S11: in every one of these.

831
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:55,700
S1: You know, these.

832
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:57,680
S11: People that's in the book, sort of Jesus, you know,

833
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000
S11: kind of trying to reason with God to get out

834
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,440
S11: of whatever he's asking of them. And he is able

835
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,680
S11: to take all of our questions, all of our emotions,

836
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,560
S11: our fear, our anger. He can work through all of

837
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,960
S11: that and meet us where we're at. But I was

838
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,160
S11: at that point of just complete surrender at that moment

839
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,640
S11: in my car crying and crying, Lord, I don't know

840
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,440
S11: how I move forward. I don't know how I keep

841
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,880
S11: going with this. And he just showed up in a

842
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,000
S11: way that, you know, he said in my spirit, not audibly,

843
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,600
S11: but it was unmistakably that he said to me, I

844
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,600
S11: will be with you. And you know, when I look

845
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,319
S11: back on it, I think, you know, where did that

846
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,480
S11: come from? It was clearly his voice speaking, but how

847
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,680
S11: many times did I read that in the word where

848
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,440
S11: he told people who were discouraged and afraid and in danger,

849
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,720
S11: I will be with you. I mean, it's his promise

850
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,440
S11: to us, and it's been enough for me.

851
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,280
S1: Wow. I want to underscore something that you've said, because

852
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,640
S1: what happens in your spiritual growth wasn't by accident. You

853
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,200
S1: have this unbelievably busy, demanding career that has to be

854
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,339
S1: reactive to the news and the world around you, which

855
00:42:55,340 --> 00:42:56,980
S1: means you play life on the balls of your feet

856
00:42:56,980 --> 00:42:59,939
S1: on a regular basis. But you made the declaration here

857
00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:01,779
S1: in front of a national audience that you don't do

858
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:04,500
S1: this without spending time in the word. You were able

859
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:07,739
S1: to hear God's voice, whether it's figuratively or not. We've

860
00:43:07,739 --> 00:43:10,220
S1: all had that sense of impression that he's speaking to us,

861
00:43:10,219 --> 00:43:12,860
S1: probably through the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit, that

862
00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:15,819
S1: I will be with you. Can you just underscore the

863
00:43:15,820 --> 00:43:18,299
S1: fact that we can read about the 11 characters that

864
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:20,819
S1: you write about in this book? But boy, it is

865
00:43:20,820 --> 00:43:23,140
S1: imperative we spend time in the word, give us a

866
00:43:23,140 --> 00:43:26,180
S1: challenge to say, look, that's not your grandmother speaking. How

867
00:43:26,180 --> 00:43:27,859
S1: do you go to work? How do you get out

868
00:43:27,860 --> 00:43:30,580
S1: there and influence in the marketplace of ideas? If you

869
00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:32,899
S1: haven't been fed first, give us a challenge to get

870
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:34,100
S1: into the word regularly.

871
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:38,620
S11: Amen. It's where I start every day and the time

872
00:43:38,620 --> 00:43:41,060
S11: in prayer. The time in listening for God's voice and

873
00:43:41,060 --> 00:43:43,140
S11: reading His Word with all of the truth is that

874
00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:45,580
S11: we need to find. It equips us for the day ahead.

875
00:43:45,980 --> 00:43:49,219
S1: Wow, Shannon, thank you so much. You know, I'm thrilled

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S1: that God just keeps blessing you with your writing, that

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S1: you are unapologetic as identifying yourself as a child with

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S1: the Most High King, and that you write with such

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S1: biblical truth. Like you, we get a gazillion books to

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S1: review and in my world in particular, some are straight

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S1: as an arrow, others lean to the left and they're

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S1: nowhere near what the gospel teaches us. But your books

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S1: are so biblically spot on. I love to recommend them,

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S1: and I really am excited about this book, because all

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S1: of us have those times when we wonder, Is God there?

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S1: Will he really meet me in my pain? Can he

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S1: say to me like he did to Shannon, I will

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S1: be there for you. And the answer is yes, yes

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S1: and yes, but get to know him by spending time

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S1: in His Word and read Shannon's book, and then buy

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S1: several copies and give them to a friend, because there

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S1: isn't a person out there who's wondering if God is

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S1: real and how they can know him personally. The Lord

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S1: bless you, Shannon. I look forward to your next book.

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S1: And when you see Shannon on the air, pray for her,

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S1: would you? That she would have wisdom, discernment, and grace

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S1: as an ambassador for the King. See you next time, friends.