WEBVTT - Hour 2:  One Day Closer

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<v S1>Hi friend, thank you so much for downloading this podcast

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<v S1>and I truly hope you hear something that edifies encourage, equips, enlightens,

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<v S1>But before you go, I want to tell you about

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<v S1>this month's truth tool. It's called Have You Ever Wondered?

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<v S1>And I absolutely love this topic because if you're like me,

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<v S1>going out into the night sky and looking up and

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<v S1>seeing a million stars, don't you just stop and think

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<v S1>about God? And are you not in a moment of

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<v S1>awe and wonder or looking out over the vast expanse

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<v S1>of an ocean and you start thinking, what is man,

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<v S1>that thou art mindful of him? And it makes you

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<v S1>wonder about the magnificence of God? I think that sense

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<v S1>of wonder was put there on purpose, and this wonderful

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<v S1>book includes a composite of multiple authors who have written

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<v S1>from their perspective as a scientist, or a historian, or

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<v S1>a mathematician or an artist, on why they all have

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<v S1>this sense of awe through the work that they do.

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<v S1>In other words, the heavens declare the glory. And as

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<v S1>it tells us in Romans, we are really without excuse

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<v S1>because his handiwork is everywhere. And this book invites you

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<v S1>to walk through the chapters written by people who all

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<v S1>have a sense of awe and wonder when it comes

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<v S1>to God through their various disciplines in life. It's an

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<v S1>amazing book and it's yours. For a gift of any amount,

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<v S2>Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. Today's program

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<v S2>is where Janet and her husband, Craig, take some of

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<v S2>the stories making headlines this week and offer their insight

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<v S2>and analysis. Before they get started, let's take a quick

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<v S2>look back at some of the highlights from the week.

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<v S3>When some new idea comes in to challenge those reigning paradigms,

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<v S3>it's often treated with some contempt. And this is exactly

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<v S3>what is going on with intelligent design and Darwinian evolution

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<v S3>right now. Neo-darwinian evolution, for better or for worse, is

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<v S3>the reigning paradigm within biology for how life arose and

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<v S3>and diversified to all the forms we see today. Intelligent

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<v S3>design is coming and saying, actually, there are other scientific

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<v S3>ways to look at this question that are not mechanistic,

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<v S3>that are not naturalistic. We can actually use our understanding

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<v S3>of what intelligent agents can to do, can do to

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<v S3>better understand how we can explain the complexity of biology.

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<v S4>Satan knows the Bible very well, and when he looks

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<v S4>at the entire Council of God, he's not omniscient, but

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<v S4>he knows his Bible. He knows that at some point

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<v S4>in the future, the the Jewish people are going to

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<v S4>go through with a bunch of people through the tribulation.

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<v S4>Some will survive, some will not. Those who survive will

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<v S4>call on Yeshua, will say, Baruch Hashem Adonai. Blessed is

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<v S4>he who comes in the name of the Lord, and

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<v S4>that will usher in the second coming of the Messiah.

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<v S4>When that happens, Satan is out of a job and

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<v S4>he does not like his retirement plan.

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<v S5>What do you call it when you say to a

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<v S5>mother you can kill your baby one hour before they

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<v S5>are born, but if you kill them an hour after

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<v S5>they are born, you'll be prosecuted. And the answer, of course,

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<v S5>is that this bill was it is not. It's not

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<v S5>even about abortion. It's about infanticide. And one of the things,

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<v S5>and you and I have talked about this before, I've

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<v S5>been saying this for years as the West turns away

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<v S5>from Christianity, particularly in the United Kingdom. We are not

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<v S5>progressing to a secular nirvana. We are regressing to a

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<v S5>Greco-Roman pagan view of the world.

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<v S6>The New Testament like a beautiful rainbow, beginning with the

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<v S6>first coming and ending with the second coming of Jesus.

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<v S6>And so even when you look at the whole Bible,

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<v S6>Genesis and Revelation are just perfectly corresponding bookends. You know,

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<v S6>from creation to new creation and from the garden to

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<v S6>the new Jerusalem. And so I commend to people, both

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<v S6>biblical theology and looking at, at the Bible more synthetically,

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<v S6>you know, how the different parts all fit perfectly within

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<v S6>the whole library of the 66 books of Scripture.

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<v S2>To hear the full interviews from any of those guests,

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<v S2>go to In the Market with Janet Parshall and click

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<v S2>on Past programs. Here are some other stories making headlines

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<v S2>this week.

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<v S7>European Union leaders are to be presented with a choice

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<v S7>by the European Commission. Get a quick trade deal with

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<v S7>the US at the cost of Washington getting better terms,

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<v S7>or escalate the fight in the hope of something better

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<v S7>in Nairobi.

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<v S8>Some are making money out of protests that shook the

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<v S8>Kenyan capital on Wednesday. Others are counting the cost after

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<v S8>confrontations between police and protesters turned chaotic.

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<v S9>US Health Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr's newly appointed panel of

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<v S9>vaccine advisers met for the first time on Wednesday.

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<v S10>Shell has denied reports it's in talks with BP regarding

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<v S10>a takeover. The Wall Street Journal said Wednesday that negotiations

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<v S10>were at an early stage, but shell said no talks

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<v S10>were taking place.

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<v S2>Janet and Craig have lots to share and they'll put

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<v S2>the first story on the table when we return. To

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<v S2>get more information or to download the podcast of any

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<v S2>of the interviews, go to. In the market with Janet Parshall.

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<v S1>The questions that matter most often come while watching a sunset,

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<v S1>or listening to music, or looking into the night sky.

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<v S1>That's why I've chosen. Have you ever wondered, as this

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<v S1>month's truth tool? God draws us to himself through a

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<v S1>sense of awe and wonder, and this book will help

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<v S1>you discover how. As for your copy of have you

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<v S1>ever wondered when you give a gift of any amount

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<v S1>in the market, call eight 7758. That's eight 7758 or

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<v S1>go to in the market with Janet Parshall. Happy Friday

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<v S1>to you friends. So glad we're going to spend this

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<v S1>hour together. Mr. Craig Parshall is with me. We take

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<v S1>a look at all kinds of stories making headlines through

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<v S1>the lens of Scripture. If you're interested, by the way,

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<v S1>our first hour today, Craig and I talked about some

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<v S1>of the major Supreme Court cases that were handed down

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<v S1>yesterday and today. Very important, dealing with some pretty big issues,

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<v S1>not the least of which is a reaffirmation of parents

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<v S1>rights and the free exercise clause of the First Amendment.

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<v S1>Thank you Lord, what a great decision. So you didn't

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<v S1>we talked about the first hour. Glad you're with us

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<v S1>this hour, by the way. I looked at my calendar

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<v S1>and I can't believe it. I blinked, I put my

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<v S1>Christmas decorations away and now it's time to put up

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<v S1>the American flag, because the 4th of July is right

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<v S1>around the corner. But Tuesday is the 1st of July,

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<v S1>which means from today until midnight on the last day

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<v S1>You Ever Wondered 877, Janet, 58 or online at In

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<v S1>you ever wondered is a compilation of authors under the

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<v S1>editorial leadership of Andy Bannister, who's been on this program.

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<v S1>He lives in the UK. Such a wonderful guy, and

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<v S1>it really is about how we have awe and wonder,

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<v S1>particularly on these summer nights. Oh, with all this heat,

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<v S1>if you're not having a rainstorm, look up there and

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<v S1>the skies are twinkling with stars. God made them all.

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<v S1>The Bible says he hung them all and he named

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<v S1>them all. I don't know about you, but my little

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<v S1>Mickey Mouse mind can't take all of that in. And

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<v S1>I am filled with awe and wondered. Our God is

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<v S1>an or some God. In fact, the word or should

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<v S1>really only be used about God rather than boy, wasn't

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<v S1>that ball game awesome? No. Awe is reserved to God himself,

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<v S1>and he puts that sense of awe and wonder in us,

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<v S1>not by accident, so that we might hunger for something bigger,

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<v S1>something greater, someone bigger and greater than us. And that's

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<v S1>the great and glorious King himself. I love this book.

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<v S1>It'll stir your heart. It'll make you say, wait a minute.

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<v S1>Why am I always happy when there's a happy ending

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<v S1>to a story? And why do I think that this

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<v S1>isn't going to satisfy me? And why do I still

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<v S1>have a hunger after I try that? But I'm still

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<v S1>wanting something more. All of that and more gets addressed

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<v S1>in the book. Have you ever wondered? So goes away.

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<v S1>Midnight Monday 877 Janet 58 or online at In the

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<v S1>Market with Janet Parshall. We're going to start out by

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<v S1>giving you an update on two cases that we talked

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<v S1>about before that I think are important. And I think

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<v S1>we owe you the duty of giving you an update

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<v S1>When some of these cases happen, there's a camp called

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<v S1>I'd Rather Have. Jesus. Uh, and it's. I can't even

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<v S1>say the name, but they the letters stand for. I'd

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<v S1>rather have Jesus. It's a Christian camp. It's in Bailey, Colorado.

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<v S1>My Colorado friends will know what camp I'm referring to.

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<v S1>They were told that they would have to let children

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<v S1>be indoctrinated by the trans cult. Whenever facilities were going

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<v S1>to be used by people. The boy went to this

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<v S1>Christian camp and he said, you know what? I'm a

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<v S1>girl and he's going to show up and he's going

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<v S1>to use the other bathroom. The camp said, no, no,

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<v S1>that's going to be a problem. We we just don't

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<v S1>think that's going to work for us. And so we

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<v S1>have some big concerns. Well, they asked for an exemption

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<v S1>being a religious camp after all. And Colorado, guess what?

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<v S1>Because boy are they aggressive there. We're praying for you. Colorado. Uh,

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<v S1>they refused to give in and said, no, we're not

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<v S1>going to give this protection to this Christian camp by

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<v S1>any stretch of the imagination. Well, then along comes a

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<v S1>little group called Alliance Defending Freedom. And they said, okay, well,

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<v S1>I'll meet you at Eurasia and we're going to see

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<v S1>what we can do. So rather than having this go

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<v S1>all the way through, they made an exception. Thank you, Lord,

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<v S1>to allow the camp to continue freely practicing their religious

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<v S1>free their beliefs that 99.99999% of all human beings throughout

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<v S1>the world would agree with Craig. Why is this such

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<v S1>a victory?

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<v S11>Well, it's a victory number one, considering the state of Colorado.

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<v S11>It has been. And we got close friends. We love

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<v S11>the people of Colorado, but the power structures, the political

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<v S11>power structures in Colorado are a hot mess. Uh, they

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<v S11>seem to enjoy. And they certainly have become experts in

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<v S11>targeting Christians of faith who have sincerely held beliefs about

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<v S11>not participating. As the Apostle Paul says in the very

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<v S11>evil that they don't agree with. But Colorado says, oh,

0:11:40.730 --> 0:11:43.870
<v S11>you will, or we'll be. You'll be fine. You'll be

0:11:43.870 --> 0:11:49.350
<v S11>sent to an education camp, basically. Um, and you'll lose

0:11:49.350 --> 0:11:52.590
<v S11>a lot of your civil liberties that other people have

0:11:52.630 --> 0:11:56.270
<v S11>that are first class citizens. You'll be a second class citizen.

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<v S11>So Colorado has been in a troubled state for some time.

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<v S11>I hope that this is the beginning of a turnaround,

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<v S11>where they're saying they're waking up to the fact that

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<v S11>they are on the wrong side, not not only of history,

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<v S11>but of the law.

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<v S1>And they did more than back up. By the way,

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<v S1>the state is clarifying in a memo on its website

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<v S1>and in administrative guides that churches, synagogues, mosques or any

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<v S1>other place that is principally used for religious purposes are

0:12:23.590 --> 0:12:26.110
<v S1>exempt from the requirements. Now, I'm going to say, given

0:12:26.110 --> 0:12:28.150
<v S1>the hostility, and this is the state that gave us

0:12:28.190 --> 0:12:32.310
<v S1>Jack Phillips masterpiece cake. Right. And I think creative 310

0:12:32.350 --> 0:12:34.590
<v S1>is also from Colorado, too, if I remember. Right. So

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<v S1>when you look at what they do when it comes

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<v S1>to religious liberty in Colorado, it's a chilling effect. So

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<v S1>this was good for this camp. I think I may

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<v S1>have figured out how to pronounce it. I'd rather. I'd

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<v S1>rather I'd rather have. Jesus, I a r a h

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<v S1>a j e a rad day. That's it. You think so? Yeah. Okay.

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<v S1>All right. Now, I may have that dead wrong, but anyway,

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<v S1>the bottom line. I'm happy for the camp. So, do

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<v S1>you remember another case that we talked about to this

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<v S1>one was Washington State. Washington state, by the way, was

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<v S1>going to have legislation called SB 5375. It was scheduled

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<v S1>to take effect on July 27th. Oh, that happens to

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<v S1>be today. Unlawfully targets. This is what some are saying.

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<v S1>And this is a complaint that has just been filed

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<v S1>by the Department of Justice. This is the update. This

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<v S1>is why we're telling you, the complaint argues that this legislation, quote,

0:13:27.540 --> 0:13:32.500
<v S1>unlawfully targets clergy and specifically Catholic priests by requiring mandatory

0:13:32.500 --> 0:13:36.780
<v S1>reporting of abuse for clergy without exempting the professional. That confessional,

0:13:36.780 --> 0:13:40.020
<v S1>by the way, which is supposed to be confidential, uh,

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<v S1>in fact, the lawsuit reads the Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation,

0:13:43.970 --> 0:13:46.450
<v S1>also known as confession, is one of the seven holy

0:13:46.450 --> 0:13:48.770
<v S1>sacraments of the Catholic Church. It is a sacred rite

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<v S1>with roots that can be traced back to the origins

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<v S1>of Catholicism. The seal of confidentiality is therefore the lifeblood

0:13:55.170 --> 0:13:58.810
<v S1>of confession. Without that, the free exercise of the Catholic religion, i.e.

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<v S1>the apostolic duties performed by the Catholic priests to the

0:14:01.490 --> 0:14:05.530
<v S1>benefit of Catholic parishioners, cannot take place. And so I

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<v S1>find it fascinating. And boy, do I admire this woman,

0:14:08.490 --> 0:14:12.570
<v S1>the assistant ag, Harmeet Dhillon. Uh, she is in charge

0:14:12.570 --> 0:14:15.730
<v S1>of DOJ Civil Rights division. And God bless her, she

0:14:15.929 --> 0:14:19.370
<v S1>while she is not, um, a professing Christian, she is

0:14:19.370 --> 0:14:23.730
<v S1>one who understands the invaluable nature of religious liberty. So

0:14:23.930 --> 0:14:25.930
<v S1>good for them. And by the way, while this hones

0:14:25.930 --> 0:14:30.170
<v S1>in specifically on Catholics, there is that that private confidentiality

0:14:30.210 --> 0:14:33.010
<v S1>it would spill way beyond the confessional booth in its application,

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<v S1>I'm sure. So give me your take on this.

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<v S11>Well, this is a season of the return to reason

0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:44.160
<v S11>And reasoned approach to the Constitution and to the long

0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.720
<v S11>history of the law in the United States and much

0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:52.040
<v S11>of the English common law that we inherited in the colonies,

0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:56.000
<v S11>and then, when we became a constitutional republic, was imported

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<v S11>into our understanding in the 1700s and into the 18th

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<v S11>and 19th century. Um, and it has stood the test

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<v S11>of time until very recently. Now, the confidentiality, uh, afforded

0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:16.360
<v S11>it has been known by various names. The, the, um,

0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:23.240
<v S11>the parishioner, uh, penitent, uh, clergy exception. Uh, it's also

0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:28.640
<v S11>been just simply the clergy confidentiality. Confidentiality exception. And by

0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:33.520
<v S11>the way, the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, uh, have adopted, uh,

0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:39.310
<v S11>those kinds of confidentiality requirements. And the states have historically

0:15:39.310 --> 0:15:44.150
<v S11>had them for two centuries. Now, suddenly some of the

0:15:44.310 --> 0:15:48.590
<v S11>more progressive, quote unquote states like the state of Washington

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<v S11>has decided, no, we're going to change the history of

0:15:51.390 --> 0:15:53.910
<v S11>the law on this issue. And by the way, it's

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<v S11>not just the Catholic Church. Uh, if a pastor of

0:15:57.430 --> 0:16:01.550
<v S11>a Protestant church has a member come in or even

0:16:01.590 --> 0:16:04.550
<v S11>a member of the public come in and say, I

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<v S11>need some spiritual counsel, but I need your I need

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<v S11>this to be confidential. Well, very often the the best

0:16:14.270 --> 0:16:18.510
<v S11>work that takes place in terms of a spiritual breakthrough

0:16:18.550 --> 0:16:22.230
<v S11>with a person who is burdened like that is the

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<v S11>protection of confidentiality. And by the way, confidentiality has been

0:16:25.910 --> 0:16:31.430
<v S11>extended to other important decision making processes. I'll give you

0:16:31.430 --> 0:16:37.460
<v S11>as an example, jury deliberations are absolutely sacred and confidential.

0:16:37.740 --> 0:16:41.140
<v S11>No one can force them to say what happened in

0:16:41.140 --> 0:16:44.420
<v S11>the jury room, unless the jury themselves want to break

0:16:44.420 --> 0:16:49.380
<v S11>that silence. That's confidential. You're voting when you vote. No

0:16:49.380 --> 0:16:51.220
<v S11>one can put a gun to your head and say

0:16:51.220 --> 0:16:54.220
<v S11>you're going to tell me who you voted for. That's illegal.

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<v S11>That has been protected for anonymity and for the anonymity

0:16:57.700 --> 0:17:01.940
<v S11>of your vote. So confidentiality here has a long history. Janet.

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<v S11>And I'm shocked that the state of Washington would say

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<v S11>we're going to obliterate all those hundreds of years.

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<v S1>And the next time somebody shouts separation of church and state,

0:17:10.900 --> 0:17:14.780
<v S1>just smile graciously. Because this is another example. Again, that really,

0:17:14.780 --> 0:17:17.260
<v S1>while it's not in the Constitution, it becomes a cudgel

0:17:17.580 --> 0:17:20.100
<v S1>for states like Washington who think they have the right

0:17:20.100 --> 0:17:24.940
<v S1>to intrude in the church, the very thing that Jefferson

0:17:24.940 --> 0:17:27.740
<v S1>warned against and promised he would protect when he wrote

0:17:27.740 --> 0:17:31.940
<v S1>to the Danbury Baptist Society. The government stays out of

0:17:31.980 --> 0:17:35.010
<v S1>the church. Period. End of statement. So I am very

0:17:35.090 --> 0:17:37.970
<v S1>happy to see DOJ put some shoe leather into this,

0:17:37.970 --> 0:17:39.770
<v S1>and we wish them all the best in their lawsuit

0:17:39.770 --> 0:17:42.050
<v S1>against Washington State. We're going to take a break. Come

0:17:42.050 --> 0:17:43.610
<v S1>right back. Now you've got an update because we had

0:17:43.650 --> 0:17:45.410
<v S1>talked about both of those in the past. I want

0:17:45.410 --> 0:17:56.929
<v S1>you to be current on this back after this. I

0:17:56.930 --> 0:17:59.250
<v S1>love good news stories. Sometimes we have to dig a

0:17:59.250 --> 0:18:00.810
<v S1>little bit harder to find those, but we got a

0:18:00.810 --> 0:18:03.370
<v S1>bunch today. First we started, like I said last hour,

0:18:03.410 --> 0:18:06.570
<v S1>talking about some really excellent decisions coming down from the

0:18:06.570 --> 0:18:09.010
<v S1>United States Supreme Court. That's a good news story. Then

0:18:09.010 --> 0:18:10.729
<v S1>we talk about the fact that the Christian camp in

0:18:10.730 --> 0:18:13.409
<v S1>Colorado is protected. That's a good news story. Then we

0:18:13.410 --> 0:18:15.169
<v S1>talk about the fact that the DOJ is going to

0:18:15.170 --> 0:18:20.450
<v S1>go over this unconscionable intrusion into the ecclesiastical practices of

0:18:20.450 --> 0:18:23.689
<v S1>a church and violate the privacy between a priest and

0:18:23.690 --> 0:18:26.930
<v S1>a parishioner, and it will spill beyond Catholicism. By the way,

0:18:26.930 --> 0:18:29.770
<v S1>the same vulnerability could take place in the pastor's study.

0:18:29.970 --> 0:18:32.129
<v S1>That's good that DOJ wants to go after that. And

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<v S1>here's another good story. And I was telling Craig boy,

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<v S1>I'll tell you, you'll talk about these cases of exploitation

0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.120
<v S1>until the cows come home. You'll do documentaries, ABC we'll spend,

0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:44.120
<v S1>you know, Dateline and 2020 and all this other stuff.

0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:49.720
<v S1>But when there's victory, when there's absolutely liberty and justice

0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.920
<v S1>gets meted out, how come it's so quiet? Well, we're

0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:54.399
<v S1>not going to be quiet. We're going to herald this

0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:59.000
<v S1>from the rooftops. It was called Operation Dragon Eye. Officials

0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.960
<v S1>are calling it the most successful child recovery effort in

0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.040
<v S1>the United States. I'm sorry. Did you. Did you not

0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:07.359
<v S1>get this in the news? Good. Well, let me tell

0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:14.920
<v S1>you then. Operation dragonfly, a rescued 66 zero critically missing children.

0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.480
<v S1>What if your baby was one of those 60 and

0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.880
<v S1>they were in Florida's Tampa Bay region? It was led

0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.560
<v S1>by U.S. marshals, and it involved over 20 agencies. It

0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.880
<v S1>was a two week operation. Only the Lord knows how

0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.720
<v S1>difficult this must have been. And it reflects a powerful

0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.429
<v S1>example of justice, compassion and government working in unity to

0:19:33.470 --> 0:19:37.949
<v S1>protect the vulnerable. These kids were ages 9 to 17.

0:19:37.990 --> 0:19:42.270
<v S1>They were identified as high risk, mainly endangered by abuse,

0:19:42.470 --> 0:19:46.629
<v S1>trafficking and exploitation. So the Florida Attorney General and U.S.

0:19:46.630 --> 0:19:52.109
<v S1>Marshal William Berger confirmed eight arrests, including suspected traffickers and

0:19:52.109 --> 0:19:56.469
<v S1>child predators. The suspects face serious charges ranging from human

0:19:56.470 --> 0:20:04.110
<v S1>trafficking to drug offenses, with bonds as high as $250 million.

0:20:04.270 --> 0:20:07.070
<v S1>Under the leadership of Governor Ron DeSantis, the Florida Department

0:20:07.070 --> 0:20:09.670
<v S1>of Children and Families played a vital role, ensuring that

0:20:09.670 --> 0:20:14.230
<v S1>each child received immediate physical and psychological care, and authorities

0:20:14.230 --> 0:20:17.070
<v S1>hope this rescue is a turning point for the young

0:20:17.070 --> 0:20:20.550
<v S1>lives involved. So there it is, shouted from the rooftops.

0:20:20.550 --> 0:20:23.790
<v S1>Rent an airplane. Fly it through the sky. 60 precious

0:20:23.790 --> 0:20:28.350
<v S1>children rescued from the claws of this demonic activity. I

0:20:28.390 --> 0:20:31.700
<v S1>think that's huge. And again deemed to be the largest

0:20:31.740 --> 0:20:35.060
<v S1>rescue of children being trafficked in the country. This is

0:20:35.060 --> 0:20:35.780
<v S1>a huge story.

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<v S11>There are those who, um, try to minimize the reality

0:20:41.980 --> 0:20:47.020
<v S11>of the risk to children and youth in this country. Um, well,

0:20:47.060 --> 0:20:50.940
<v S11>you know, statistically, you know, what are the odds? But

0:20:50.980 --> 0:20:56.140
<v S11>one child is too many to be human trafficked. One child, uh, who,

0:20:56.460 --> 0:21:00.100
<v S11>for whatever reason, finds his or her way on the

0:21:00.100 --> 0:21:04.700
<v S11>street and without a home is so vulnerable to predators.

0:21:04.700 --> 0:21:06.940
<v S11>And by the way, uh, a number of those who

0:21:06.940 --> 0:21:11.260
<v S11>had been arrested and charged with these crimes were known

0:21:11.300 --> 0:21:15.820
<v S11>sex offenders. So the the future of these children was

0:21:15.820 --> 0:21:22.460
<v S11>very dire. And I just praised these Florida law enforcement agents, uh,

0:21:22.500 --> 0:21:26.340
<v S11>and I, I wasn't sure from reading the background whether

0:21:26.340 --> 0:21:29.020
<v S11>the feds were involved as well. But there there are

0:21:29.130 --> 0:21:31.770
<v S11>a number of years ago there was a, I think

0:21:31.810 --> 0:21:36.609
<v S11>close to 80, um, children had been rescued, um, down

0:21:36.609 --> 0:21:39.850
<v S11>in Georgia. But it took, I think, close to a

0:21:39.850 --> 0:21:44.129
<v S11>year of tracking and surveillance to be able to determine

0:21:44.130 --> 0:21:47.050
<v S11>this and then find them and rescue them. So this

0:21:47.050 --> 0:21:50.010
<v S11>is happening not in a third world country, but in

0:21:50.010 --> 0:21:53.010
<v S11>the United States of America. And if you don't think

0:21:53.010 --> 0:21:57.090
<v S11>that this is a problem in your neighborhood, unfortunately, think again.

0:21:57.290 --> 0:22:00.010
<v S1>Wow. All right. That's good news story. Now let me

0:22:00.010 --> 0:22:02.489
<v S1>talk about AI because hey, it's Friday. We love to

0:22:02.490 --> 0:22:05.370
<v S1>talk about AI. Goldman Sachs said this week it's going

0:22:05.410 --> 0:22:08.330
<v S1>to roll out an artificial intelligence tool that could be

0:22:08.330 --> 0:22:12.129
<v S1>used to take over tasks traditionally done by junior bankers.

0:22:12.130 --> 0:22:14.290
<v S1>What did Craig and I what have we said over

0:22:14.290 --> 0:22:17.250
<v S1>and over and over again? You know, I it's more

0:22:17.250 --> 0:22:20.090
<v S1>than just making a pretty cartoon on your computer top.

0:22:20.290 --> 0:22:23.210
<v S1>It's going to end up taking away people's jobs. I

0:22:23.250 --> 0:22:25.570
<v S1>care about my fellow man. I care about their ability

0:22:25.570 --> 0:22:28.440
<v S1>to put bread on their table. I believe in human flourishing.

0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.679
<v S1>I think it's a biblical mandate. And guess what? Now

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:34.280
<v S1>we've got the rise of the machines. And so, of course,

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:37.280
<v S1>this is fueling ongoing fears that technology is going to

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:41.120
<v S1>soon eliminate entry level jobs. So I will be used

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.280
<v S1>to generate efficiency plans in the Wall Street giant's investment

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:48.800
<v S1>banking and wealth management divisions by helping employees with everyday tasks.

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.760
<v S1>According to an internal memo that was circulated and eventually

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:55.720
<v S1>got out to the press. Mhm. Uh, in fact, it's

0:22:55.720 --> 0:23:00.639
<v S1>interesting because Goldman Sachs, their CIO, uh, said this today

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:03.600
<v S1>marks an important moment in our AI journey as we

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:09.680
<v S1>are excited to announce the firmware launch of the AI assistant.

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.760
<v S1>We're giving them names now the first generative AI powered

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.840
<v S1>tool to reach this scale. So apparently the David Solomon

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.439
<v S1>led financial powerhouse had previously rolled out the tech to

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:26.470
<v S1>about 10,000 of its estimated 46,500 global employees. I'm. I

0:23:26.510 --> 0:23:28.270
<v S1>got to tell you, I'm. You know, they're all about

0:23:28.270 --> 0:23:30.070
<v S1>the bottom line. That's why they're bankers. That's why they're

0:23:30.109 --> 0:23:32.629
<v S1>Goldman Sachs. I get it. But it breaks my heart

0:23:32.630 --> 0:23:35.550
<v S1>because somebody's going to lose a job because of a machine. I,

0:23:35.590 --> 0:23:37.950
<v S1>I don't call that progress. I that makes this kind

0:23:37.950 --> 0:23:39.270
<v S1>of a story. Makes me unhappy.

0:23:39.430 --> 0:23:43.629
<v S11>You know, I read this story, um, and I immediately thought,

0:23:44.430 --> 0:23:47.790
<v S11>and this is going to show, you know, my proclivity

0:23:47.830 --> 0:23:51.070
<v S11>for certain movies that you and I enjoy. But I

0:23:51.070 --> 0:23:55.230
<v S11>immediately went back to the 1957 movie called Desk Set

0:23:55.230 --> 0:23:59.270
<v S11>between Katharine Hepburn. She was a information librarian who had

0:23:59.270 --> 0:24:02.950
<v S11>answered all wide variety of questions that were called in

0:24:02.950 --> 0:24:05.389
<v S11>to her, and she'd do it from her own notes

0:24:05.390 --> 0:24:08.470
<v S11>and her own knowledge. And then there was Spencer Tracy,

0:24:08.510 --> 0:24:11.429
<v S11>who was the computer expert who would come in and

0:24:11.430 --> 0:24:16.109
<v S11>he was going to replace Katharine Hepburn with a computer. Uh,

0:24:16.109 --> 0:24:18.469
<v S11>if you're tired of hearing these I stories about how

0:24:18.470 --> 0:24:22.190
<v S11>they're going to replace us, I'd advise you watch desk set.

0:24:22.190 --> 0:24:25.060
<v S11>It's a great comedy. But also there's a lesson there

0:24:25.340 --> 0:24:28.420
<v S11>that computers are not ready, nor will they ever be

0:24:28.420 --> 0:24:29.940
<v S11>ready to replace humans.

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<v S1>Yeah. And again, I don't know what the answer is

0:24:31.859 --> 0:24:34.859
<v S1>to this because somebody builds them. The guy who builds

0:24:34.859 --> 0:24:37.540
<v S1>the machine, the gal that builds the machine, they're making money.

0:24:37.540 --> 0:24:39.540
<v S1>The people who buy the machines are buying the machines

0:24:39.540 --> 0:24:41.419
<v S1>because it's going to cost them less money. And they

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<v S1>don't have to pay employee taxes or benefits to a machine.

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<v S1>I get it, but in the meantime, this is what

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<v S1>happens when you take God out of your worldview. You

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<v S1>don't see his image in your fellow man. Back after this.

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<v S1>the things Craig and I would like to do on

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<v S1>Fridays is really and truly help us learn to discern.

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<v S1>We talk about the Bereans a lot on this program.

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<v S1>So these people tested the writings of Paul. They didn't

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<v S1>swallow anything hook, line and sinker. And neither should we,

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<v S1>particularly when it comes to the careful handling of the

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<v S1>word of life holding fast to that which is good,

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<v S1>not adding to or subtracting from, but absolutely teaching line

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<v S1>upon line, precept upon precept, and not trying to bend

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<v S1>and twist whatever you read in Scripture to fit some

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<v S1>current cultural or political ideology that the person who's doing

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<v S1>the teaching might have. When that happens, you are hearing

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<v S1>a wolf, and it shouldn't come as any kind of

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<v S1>a surprise. We need to recognize that sound, don't we?

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<v S1>Matthew 715 says, beware of false prophets who come to

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<v S1>you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. And

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<v S1>that's just one of multiple verses that the Bible talks

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<v S1>about with those who are going to come among us,

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<v S1>and they're going to have all kinds of false teaching.

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<v S1>It is imperative that you and I learn to discern

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<v S1>either what we're hearing from the pulpit comes into alignment

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<v S1>with God's straight truth or gray in between. So you

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<v S1>read the word, and through the power and the inspiration

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<v S1>of the Holy Spirit, that's your Geiger counter. That's your

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<v S1>straight stick. That's your metric. Wait, wait, wait, what I

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<v S1>just heard from the pulpit doesn't say that in the Bible,

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<v S1>but that that doesn't come into alignment with. I just

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<v S1>read from the word of God. And so Craig and

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<v S1>I will oftentimes play what we call wolf audio. That's

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<v S1>what the two of us call it, because these are wolves.

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<v S1>And I'm not interested in naming the name of the pastor,

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<v S1>tell you if that's a male or a female. And

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<v S1>I'm never going to name the denomination because we, you know,

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:05.719
<v S1>we kind of root for the home team. And then

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.359
<v S1>you get so bound up in a particular denomination, you're

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<v S1>not hearing the utterances. So it's out of the overflow

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<v S1>of the mouth, out of the overflow of the heart.

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<v S1>The mouth speaks. It is listening to what someone says

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<v S1>that becomes imperative. So I want you to listen to

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<v S1>this person who's going to tell the story of the demoniac,

0:27:23.990 --> 0:27:29.750
<v S1>the Gerasene demoniac. This is an absolutely fascinating story in Scripture. And, well,

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<v S1>just put on your thinking cap, listen with the ears

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<v S1>on your heart and listen to what this person standing

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<v S1>at the pulpit in front of a gay flag draped

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<v S1>over the pulpit and draped over the altar and draped

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<v S1>around the person's speaking's neck. Just listen.

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<v S12>Loving this half life, he's he's alive. But then he's

0:27:50.150 --> 0:27:53.869
<v S12>he's living among the tombs. He's socially buried. And his

0:27:53.869 --> 0:27:58.110
<v S12>community describes him as dangerous. This is someone who would

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<v S12>have been so separated from belonging and community. He would

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<v S12>have been completely labeled as beyond help. But Jesus isn't

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<v S12>afraid of him. Jesus opens with a question what is

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<v S12>your name? Another thing that should perk our ears up

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<v S12>in Scripture, just like in our day to day lives, right?

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<v S12>Our names really matter. So when this man says Legion,

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<v S12>for we are many, that means something. And that's where

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<v S12>it gets explicitly political. Because Legion isn't just a word

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<v S12>for a lot. It's not just like he whipped out

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<v S12>a thesaurus and thought, what's a fun word? Legion is

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<v S12>something really specific. It's a military word. And in this

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<v S12>moment in time in history, it's a Roman word for

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<v S12>a division of soldiers. The language that the man is

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<v S12>using to name himself is the language of empire. He

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<v S12>doesn't say I'm hurting or I'm broken or I'm alone.

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<v S12>He says I am occupied. I am legion. The demons

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<v S12>that have been tormenting this man are not just personal.

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<v S12>They're political. They reflect the systems of domination that he

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<v S12>lives under. And however we engage these stories of demons,

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<v S12>whether we understand them as literal beings or we understand

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<v S12>them as the language that the people had at the

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<v S12>time to describe other afflictions. The gospel here is really clear.

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<v S12>By using the name Legion. This man has been so colonized,

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<v S12>so criminalized, so degraded, that he can only name himself

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<v S12>by what is hurting him. That's what Empire does. It

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<v S12>gives people labels instead of names. Undocumented. Unstable. Criminal threat.

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<v S12>Other Empire teaches people to call themselves Legion. So what

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<v S12>do we do with this today? With all the stuff

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<v S12>happening in the world, in the world that I talked

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<v S12>about at the beginning of our sermon, we do what

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<v S12>Jesus did. It's not so hard, but it's so radical.

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<v S12>We ask each other, what is your name? Not the

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<v S12>name on your birth certificate or your email handle, or

0:30:08.370 --> 0:30:10.810
<v S12>your real ID that you had to get but your

0:30:10.810 --> 0:30:13.330
<v S12>real name, what the spirit calls you, the name that

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<v S12>you claim when the chains fall off and no one

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<v S12>puts them back on.

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<v S1>Oy vey. Where do you start? With something. You know,

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<v S1>when all else fails, just read the instructions so you

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<v S1>can go to Luke chapter eight, verses 26 through 39.

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<v S1>It is a fabulous story. So because she makes such

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<v S1>a point of the person's name, let's talk about it.

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<v S1>So she rightfully talks about the name that it was legion,

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<v S1>meaning many. So if you look at a Roman legion,

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<v S1>that was a whole lot of soldiers. Okay. So I

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<v S1>don't think it's by happenstance that he's called Legion because

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<v S1>the answer is right there to be found in Scripture.

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<v S1>When Jesus says, what is your name? The demoniac answers, Legion,

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<v S1>for many demons have entered us. In other words, it

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<v S1>wasn't just one which would be awful enough. He's got

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<v S1>multiple demons that have taken up residence on him, a

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<v S1>legion of demons. And they, the Bible says, begged him

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<v S1>Jesus not to command them, the demons to depart into

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<v S1>the abyss. And this is where the large herds of

0:31:16.070 --> 0:31:19.750
<v S1>swine shows up. And what happens? They get cast into

0:31:19.750 --> 0:31:22.030
<v S1>the swine. The demons. Do the demons come out of

0:31:22.030 --> 0:31:24.150
<v S1>the man? They enter the swine. The herd rushed down

0:31:24.150 --> 0:31:26.830
<v S1>the steep bank into the lake and was drowned. And

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<v S1>there's so much more to the story. And the man,

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<v S1>of course, rejoices once the demons are gone. No, she

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<v S1>had to take a sharp turn into politics. I'm sorry.

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<v S1>Were they voting for Nero? Were they voting for the Epicureans?

0:31:37.510 --> 0:31:39.510
<v S1>Were they voting for the Stoics? Were they voting for

0:31:39.510 --> 0:31:42.150
<v S1>the Pharisees? Were they voting for the. Where does voting

0:31:42.150 --> 0:31:45.070
<v S1>and politics come into this? This is a man who's

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<v S1>occupied by demons, and Jesus rescues him and sets us free.

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<v S1>The demons, she said, are political. I'm pretty sure they

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<v S1>were not political at all, but hey, that's just me.

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<v S1>Your take. Craig.

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<v S11>Um, well, it's difficult to to try to decide where

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<v S11>to start with, um, all of the errors that this

0:32:09.390 --> 0:32:15.420
<v S11>cleric wearing a clerics collar in this church are committed.

0:32:15.420 --> 0:32:19.380
<v S11>But let me give you the overview. When I heard

0:32:19.380 --> 0:32:22.020
<v S11>this and read it, I thought, this is a perfect

0:32:22.020 --> 0:32:25.300
<v S11>example of the danger of what C.S. Lewis said was

0:32:25.300 --> 0:32:31.740
<v S11>the error of of naturalism. In other words, that every issue,

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<v S11>even if it looks like it's a spiritual or transcendent

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<v S11>or supernatural episode, for instance, some of Jesus's miracles, clearly

0:32:41.420 --> 0:32:48.420
<v S11>supernatural in nature. But the natural person goes, no, I'm

0:32:48.460 --> 0:32:52.500
<v S11>going to interpret this as a simple, natural act. How

0:32:52.500 --> 0:32:56.900
<v S11>can I explain it in natural terms and demythologize the

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<v S11>existence of any spiritual or transcendent spiritual aspect to this?

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<v S11>So it couldn't have been a legion of demons in

0:33:07.380 --> 0:33:11.260
<v S11>this individual, this man. It had to be a political

0:33:11.450 --> 0:33:15.890
<v S11>statement of a poor, tortured soul who was being oppressed

0:33:15.890 --> 0:33:21.810
<v S11>because the Roman Empire was in charge of his neighborhood. Um, no. No.

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<v S11>As a matter of fact, the story goes on. And

0:33:23.890 --> 0:33:29.610
<v S11>she this particular female cleric didn't expand on that. The

0:33:29.610 --> 0:33:33.850
<v S11>story goes on to say that Jesus exorcised the demons

0:33:34.410 --> 0:33:40.010
<v S11>and the demons, begged him not to, uh, begged him

0:33:40.010 --> 0:33:46.090
<v S11>to send them into the swine because of what frankly,

0:33:46.090 --> 0:33:51.290
<v S11>Jesus talked about in Matthew chapter 12. You see, the

0:33:51.410 --> 0:33:56.370
<v S11>the demonic world exists, the spiritual world exists. And as

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<v S11>Jesus explained in Matthew chapter 12, when someone is occupied

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<v S11>by a demon and is exercised spiritually, that demon is

0:34:07.330 --> 0:34:10.589
<v S11>ends up in a what Jesus described as a dry,

0:34:10.630 --> 0:34:14.910
<v S11>waterless places seeking rest and finding none. It's a place

0:34:14.910 --> 0:34:18.989
<v S11>of torment and so therefore they have to reoccupy a human.

0:34:19.390 --> 0:34:22.190
<v S11>Jesus is not going to allow that sends them into

0:34:22.190 --> 0:34:25.350
<v S11>the swine instead that go over the hill. That was

0:34:25.350 --> 0:34:31.190
<v S11>an entirely supernatural reality, showing the supernatural power of the

0:34:31.190 --> 0:34:35.150
<v S11>Son of God, not some political statement about the Roman Empire.

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<v S1>I think the part that breaks my heart the most.

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<v S1>And again, I man looks on the outward appearance. God

0:34:40.150 --> 0:34:41.830
<v S1>looks on the heart. We read in first Samuel. So

0:34:41.830 --> 0:34:44.630
<v S1>I can't tell you what's in this particular person's heart,

0:34:44.870 --> 0:34:47.589
<v S1>but I can tell you what I think she's missing,

0:34:47.830 --> 0:34:51.029
<v S1>and that's Jesus. Because if you read this, there's no

0:34:51.030 --> 0:34:53.790
<v S1>sense of politics. There isn't any sense of the empire.

0:34:53.790 --> 0:34:57.550
<v S1>The empire doesn't give people names. It gives them labels. Well,

0:34:57.550 --> 0:35:00.350
<v S1>here's what happens at the end of this. Precious. Honestly,

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<v S1>this is a story that puts a lump in your throat.

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<v S1>So the man from whom the demons had gone, the

0:35:04.550 --> 0:35:08.150
<v S1>Bible tells us, begged that he might be with him, Jesus.

0:35:08.150 --> 0:35:11.779
<v S1>But Jesus sent him away, saying, return to your home

0:35:11.780 --> 0:35:15.100
<v S1>and declare, how much God has done for you. And he,

0:35:15.100 --> 0:35:20.340
<v S1>the person who formerly had legions of demons inside him.

0:35:20.500 --> 0:35:24.339
<v S1>And he went away, proclaiming throughout the whole city how

0:35:24.340 --> 0:35:27.020
<v S1>much Jesus had done for him. So he goes from

0:35:27.020 --> 0:35:31.420
<v S1>being a demoniac to an evangelist. And this poor person

0:35:31.420 --> 0:35:34.380
<v S1>who is wearing the colored robes of the gay pride

0:35:34.380 --> 0:35:37.540
<v S1>flag on her podium, on her body, and on the

0:35:37.540 --> 0:35:42.380
<v S1>altar behind her, is so focused on trying to superimpose

0:35:42.420 --> 0:35:47.300
<v S1>sloppy political thinking into the story that she missed Jesus.

0:35:47.540 --> 0:35:49.819
<v S1>That Jesus was able to take a man who was

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<v S1>in excruciating pain and somehow had been occupied by all

0:35:53.820 --> 0:35:57.419
<v S1>these demons, and now he's so treasured what Jesus did

0:35:57.420 --> 0:35:59.580
<v S1>for him. He wanted to follow Jesus the rest of

0:35:59.580 --> 0:36:02.380
<v S1>his life. And Jesus says, no, just tell people how

0:36:02.380 --> 0:36:05.620
<v S1>much God loves you and what Jesus has done for you.

0:36:05.620 --> 0:36:07.930
<v S1>So I have to tell you, Craig, It breaks my

0:36:07.930 --> 0:36:11.450
<v S1>heart because not only is it a torturous misinterpretation of scripture,

0:36:11.450 --> 0:36:14.090
<v S1>you want the fancy word for it, it's eisegesis. She

0:36:14.130 --> 0:36:17.330
<v S1>put there what wasn't there, as opposed to exegesis, where

0:36:17.330 --> 0:36:20.609
<v S1>she pulled out of the scripture exactly what the scriptures taught,

0:36:20.610 --> 0:36:24.210
<v S1>and in the process she missed Jesus. Oh Lord, please

0:36:24.210 --> 0:36:28.770
<v S1>help us to never miss Jesus, particularly in your words

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<v S1>back after this. So did you ever stop and think

0:37:00.250 --> 0:37:02.529
<v S1>about the power of a name? I mean, how many

0:37:02.530 --> 0:37:04.690
<v S1>times do we read in the scriptures where somebody actually

0:37:04.690 --> 0:37:08.960
<v S1>has their name changed, right? And it's usually very significant.

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:13.200
<v S1>Abram becomes Abraham, Sarai becomes Sarah. Um, we just look

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.759
<v S1>at who gets called Israel in the Bible, right? I mean,

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:19.440
<v S1>these names are so tremendously important. And when you have

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.040
<v S1>a child, I don't know about you, but in the

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.160
<v S1>partial household, boy, did we do a lot of praying

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.239
<v S1>before we named our children because we thought this is

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:26.880
<v S1>going to be something they carry with them for the

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.200
<v S1>rest of their life. So after much prayer, it was

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.760
<v S1>decided that when we had children, we would name them

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.960
<v S1>after people in the Bible so that we would always

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.560
<v S1>have an open door to talk about the attributes the,

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.520
<v S1>the good and the bad, because most of the humans

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.440
<v S1>in Scripture have just that. They have good and they

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.719
<v S1>have bad things that we can learn from. But we

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.399
<v S1>wanted to give them a paradigm of a person in

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.719
<v S1>history that we could turn back to and say, this

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.680
<v S1>was what they did right. Here's where their challenges were,

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.560
<v S1>and that would become an open door. So hence Sarah, Rebekah,

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.640
<v S1>Samuel and Joseph. And, uh, we for our house, it

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:01.120
<v S1>was the right thing to do and we felt very

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.560
<v S1>happy about it. But I gotta tell you, there's a

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.830
<v S1>precious baby coming into the world. That's going to have

0:38:05.830 --> 0:38:09.910
<v S1>a challenge, because this baby is going to have an

0:38:09.910 --> 0:38:12.230
<v S1>interesting name. In fact, they put out a baby shower

0:38:12.230 --> 0:38:15.590
<v S1>announcement that says, join us to celebrate the upcoming arrival

0:38:15.590 --> 0:38:20.190
<v S1>of our little bundle of joy. The baby's name is Chernobyl.

0:38:20.510 --> 0:38:25.710
<v S1>Hope you can't make this up. Chernobyl hope. And apparently

0:38:25.710 --> 0:38:28.109
<v S1>that showed up in the baby shower invitation. It was

0:38:28.110 --> 0:38:33.069
<v S1>posted online under the title I'm Speechless. And Greg, there

0:38:33.070 --> 0:38:35.430
<v S1>are a lot of clever people out there because there

0:38:35.430 --> 0:38:38.950
<v S1>were people who commented. Someone said, I'm sure everyone at

0:38:38.950 --> 0:38:45.669
<v S1>the celebration will be radiant. Another person said, speak for yourself.

0:38:45.989 --> 0:38:47.710
<v S1>If I were a guest at the shower and heard

0:38:47.710 --> 0:38:53.149
<v S1>that name, I'd have a total meltdown. This one? Are

0:38:53.150 --> 0:38:56.709
<v S1>all friends invited or is this just for the nuclear family?

0:38:58.989 --> 0:39:02.710
<v S1>Of course, this is referring to the absolutely horrible incident

0:39:02.710 --> 0:39:05.700
<v S1>that took place at the Chernobyl Nuclear Center in the

0:39:05.700 --> 0:39:08.180
<v S1>former Soviet Union. It's just a terrible story. And then

0:39:08.180 --> 0:39:10.779
<v S1>other people said, well, after this they can they can

0:39:10.780 --> 0:39:15.100
<v S1>have Auschwitz, joy, Hiroshima love and Columbine kindness. This one said.

0:39:15.100 --> 0:39:18.820
<v S1>Introducing new triplets. Nine over 11 peace Boston Marathon sunshine

0:39:18.820 --> 0:39:23.740
<v S1>and Sandy hook radiance. So it's just amazing that people

0:39:23.739 --> 0:39:25.700
<v S1>would put that kind of a name on for the

0:39:25.700 --> 0:39:27.739
<v S1>rest of their life. Craig, your thoughts?

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<v S11>You know, I tried to find, um, some positivity in

0:39:35.860 --> 0:39:41.339
<v S11>this and I thought, did this dear woman who was

0:39:41.340 --> 0:39:47.220
<v S11>proposing this name, was she, uh, kind of stumbling on

0:39:47.219 --> 0:39:52.500
<v S11>trying to find an optimistic view for the future. In

0:39:52.500 --> 0:39:57.020
<v S11>other words, may we never have another Chernobyl or. And,

0:39:57.219 --> 0:39:59.540
<v S11>you know, that's where the hope part comes in.

0:40:00.100 --> 0:40:02.290
<v S1>Um, why would you burden a child with.

0:40:02.330 --> 0:40:07.810
<v S11>Exactly. In other words, think about the ramifications for your

0:40:07.810 --> 0:40:12.210
<v S11>child living with that. Uh, would you call, you know,

0:40:12.250 --> 0:40:15.049
<v S11>would they start adopting a nickname so they wouldn't have

0:40:15.050 --> 0:40:18.450
<v S11>to be burdened? Uh, hi, I'm czerny, you know, I'm

0:40:18.450 --> 0:40:25.810
<v S11>not Chernobyl. I'm. I'm Czerny. Um, on my journey. So, uh, but,

0:40:25.850 --> 0:40:31.570
<v S11>you know, on the on the serious side of this, uh, names, uh,

0:40:31.610 --> 0:40:36.610
<v S11>carry with it blessings or curses. Um, and you just

0:40:36.969 --> 0:40:40.250
<v S11>beautifully laid out some of our thinking just in our family.

0:40:40.250 --> 0:40:42.610
<v S11>And we know other families do this, too. A lot

0:40:42.610 --> 0:40:46.450
<v S11>of thought about the name that's going to be given

0:40:46.450 --> 0:40:50.609
<v S11>to a child very often thinking about names from your, uh,

0:40:50.610 --> 0:40:53.569
<v S11>extended family or to carry on the legacy of the

0:40:53.570 --> 0:40:57.690
<v S11>name of a grandfather or grandmother, uh, as a middle name, uh,

0:40:57.690 --> 0:40:59.890
<v S11>and to be able to create kind of a link

0:40:59.930 --> 0:41:03.040
<v S11>and an appreciation for the family that has come before

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:08.680
<v S11>and the attributes that they brought. So important names are significant. Um,

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.799
<v S11>so I'll pray for this person that they still have

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:12.640
<v S11>time to change.

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.839
<v S1>Hopefully that poor child. Wow. So at this point, I

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:17.719
<v S1>want to bring in a little common sense, because often

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.480
<v S1>what we talk about on Fridays really is just so

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.640
<v S1>lacking in common sense, whether it's this trans issue or

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.360
<v S1>some of the cases that we've talked about that the

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.640
<v S1>Supreme Court had to take up, or even the craziness

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:33.200
<v S1>of naming a child after a horrific human disaster. I

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.120
<v S1>think at this point, I want to call in your

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.799
<v S1>honor as my expert witness one, Andy Griffin. So you're

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:40.960
<v S1>going to hear a little craziness. And then here's the

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:44.839
<v S1>sagely wisdom that probably now you'd only see in black

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:46.879
<v S1>and white. And if you're lucky, you might find it

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.200
<v S1>somewhere written, but it's probably going to be shouted down

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:55.320
<v S1>by woke inclusivity language. And then again, there's this common sense.

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.120
<v S1>So you decide. Have a listen.

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.910
<v S13>When our children tell us who they are. It is

0:42:01.910 --> 0:42:06.510
<v S13>our job as grown ups to listen and to believe them.

0:42:06.830 --> 0:42:09.310
<v S14>Now, I'm afraid it don't work that way. You can't

0:42:09.310 --> 0:42:12.069
<v S14>let a youngin decide for himself. He'll grab it. The

0:42:12.110 --> 0:42:15.310
<v S14>first flashy thing with shiny ribbons on it. Then when

0:42:15.310 --> 0:42:17.510
<v S14>he finds out there's a hook in it, it's too late.

0:42:18.510 --> 0:42:21.029
<v S14>The wrong ideas come packaged with so much glitter, it's

0:42:21.030 --> 0:42:23.230
<v S14>hard to convince them that other things might be better

0:42:23.230 --> 0:42:26.589
<v S14>in the long run. And all a parent can do

0:42:26.590 --> 0:42:31.710
<v S14>is say, wait, trust me and try to keep temptation away.

0:42:33.070 --> 0:42:36.750
<v S1>Package with so much glitter. I mean that that's. I

0:42:36.790 --> 0:42:39.750
<v S1>love the simplicity of that. But it really is profound

0:42:40.430 --> 0:42:43.110
<v S1>because when you think of someone coming as a prince

0:42:43.110 --> 0:42:47.630
<v S1>of light, right? And how deceptive he was and shiny objects,

0:42:47.670 --> 0:42:49.870
<v S1>I mean, there's nothing new under the sun. And yet

0:42:49.870 --> 0:42:51.710
<v S1>he just said it in plain talk. And what I

0:42:51.710 --> 0:42:54.910
<v S1>liked was and he said it as a reminder for

0:42:54.910 --> 0:42:57.820
<v S1>us never to be ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ. No,

0:42:57.820 --> 0:42:59.580
<v S1>I'm afraid it just don't work that way.

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<v S11>I that advice beware of latching yourself to every shiny

0:43:08.620 --> 0:43:13.060
<v S11>new thing rather than that. Say, well, what are the

0:43:13.100 --> 0:43:16.780
<v S11>ancient truths that have stood the test of time from

0:43:16.780 --> 0:43:21.259
<v S11>time immemorial? And you'll find those, by the way, in

0:43:21.260 --> 0:43:25.340
<v S11>the covers of Genesis to Revelation. Walk in the word.

0:43:25.660 --> 0:43:28.219
<v S11>Keep it as the guide for your life. Those are

0:43:28.219 --> 0:43:32.860
<v S11>the ancient divine truths that are going to make sure

0:43:32.860 --> 0:43:36.380
<v S11>you don't fall for the shiny new thing. You will

0:43:36.420 --> 0:43:41.379
<v S11>hand handle, uh, life with the things that really matter

0:43:41.380 --> 0:43:44.220
<v S11>and the things that are true, rather than the things

0:43:44.219 --> 0:43:46.900
<v S11>that grab your attention and then melt away.

0:43:46.940 --> 0:43:49.420
<v S1>Yeah, well, that's the joy of truth, isn't it? Is

0:43:49.420 --> 0:43:52.500
<v S1>that it's eternal? It's the same yesterday, today and forever.

0:43:52.500 --> 0:43:56.250
<v S1>It's knowable. It's objective. It applies to all people in

0:43:56.250 --> 0:43:59.410
<v S1>all times and all places, and sometimes it isn't shiny.

0:43:59.770 --> 0:44:03.049
<v S1>And oftentimes it's not new, but it still is the

0:44:03.050 --> 0:44:07.570
<v S1>best thing that's out there. So seek truth. No truth.

0:44:07.570 --> 0:44:11.290
<v S1>Follow the one whose name is truth. And I hope

0:44:11.290 --> 0:44:12.930
<v S1>you have a great weekend. Thank you so much for

0:44:12.930 --> 0:44:15.569
<v S1>joining us in these conversations there again, designed to have

0:44:15.570 --> 0:44:17.450
<v S1>you take the Word of God and apply it to

0:44:17.450 --> 0:44:21.050
<v S1>every single aspect of the world around you. God didn't

0:44:21.050 --> 0:44:23.730
<v S1>make us stumble in the dark. He said, hear, my

0:44:23.730 --> 0:44:25.890
<v S1>word is a lamp unto your feet and a light

0:44:25.890 --> 0:44:28.489
<v S1>unto your path. Here I'm going away. And if I

0:44:28.489 --> 0:44:30.370
<v S1>don't go away, you're not going to have the benefit

0:44:30.370 --> 0:44:33.810
<v S1>of the comforter, the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit.

0:44:33.810 --> 0:44:36.450
<v S1>He hasn't left us. He hasn't left us on our

0:44:36.450 --> 0:44:38.529
<v S1>own by any stretch of the imagination. I don't know

0:44:38.530 --> 0:44:41.450
<v S1>about you, but in a world turned upside down and

0:44:41.489 --> 0:44:44.690
<v S1>on Fridays we point to all the upside down craziness

0:44:44.730 --> 0:44:48.450
<v S1>in the stranger things out there. Just cling to Jesus.

0:44:48.450 --> 0:44:50.850
<v S1>He is the same yesterday, today and forever. We'll see

0:44:50.850 --> 0:44:51.890
<v S1>you next time, friends.