WEBVTT - Tools that Make the Bible Easier to Understand 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.360 Coming to you from the Morning Star Mission sponsored studio. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:09.240 This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio. It's Carl 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:09.840 and crew. 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.840 Helping you take your next step with Jesus. And we 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:17.480 have had a day. If you did not hear Michael 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:22.240 Ray Dolnick, he gave an acronym for how you approach 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.680 the Word of God. This bears repeating. We had hundreds 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.320 fly out the door. What is it, Ali? Specs. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.440 It's when doing your Bible study, put on your specs. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.400 This is from Michael Riedel a statement. Is there a 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:38.080 statement of truth? Is there a promise to claim? Is 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:42.200 there an example to follow? Is there a command to obey? 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.440 Is there a sin to avoid? So using those first 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.239 letters of each of those statements is kind of an 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.760 acronym specs statement of truth. Promise to claim example to 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.400 follow command to obey sin to avoid. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.600 Yeah. Good stuff. So you're like, all right I didn't 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.770 write that down. We've got it for you. Tech specs 0:01:00.770 --> 0:01:04.889 s p e s. That's it. No k in there. 0:01:05.170 --> 0:01:08.730 S e s. We'll get that right out to you. 0:01:08.770 --> 0:01:12.050 What a great tool. Specs s p e c s 0:01:12.090 --> 0:01:20.290 to 800 555 7898 800 555 7898. This is good already. 0:01:20.290 --> 0:01:24.650 And we just got going on this Monday morning. My goodness. Okay. 0:01:24.650 --> 0:01:27.090 Coming up in this half hour. Guess what we've got. 0:01:27.569 --> 0:01:30.289 We have got some time in this half hour. A 0:01:30.290 --> 0:01:32.530 moody Bible commentary that we're going to give away. It's 0:01:32.530 --> 0:01:34.850 not right now. So don't call in. But it's coming 0:01:34.850 --> 0:01:38.450 at you soon. But I've got a crazy question for you, 0:01:38.450 --> 0:01:40.250 and we're going to need you on the phone lines 0:01:40.250 --> 0:01:45.330 to answer this question. Here's the question. Give me three 0:01:45.650 --> 0:01:49.650 of the mandatory equipment tools that I had to carry 0:01:49.690 --> 0:01:51.890 on the Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race. 0:01:53.250 --> 0:01:54.210 Are we guessing? 0:01:54.410 --> 0:01:56.890 Yep. The callers are going to guess. You guys can't 0:01:56.890 --> 0:01:59.550 guess because I've. I've shared this before. I think you 0:01:59.550 --> 0:02:04.390 probably got I think you've probably got them. So 1100 0:02:04.390 --> 0:02:06.950 mile dog sled race across Alaska. I competed in it 0:02:06.950 --> 0:02:09.750 when I was 18. I know it's a little crazy. 0:02:10.190 --> 0:02:12.310 Have a hard time even imagining that I did it 0:02:12.310 --> 0:02:15.310 back in the day when I was 18, 1100 mile 0:02:15.310 --> 0:02:19.470 dog sled race. What kind of tools did they mandatorily 0:02:19.470 --> 0:02:22.590 make us carry on that race? If you get all three, 0:02:22.590 --> 0:02:24.750 you call in, you get all three. First one to 0:02:24.750 --> 0:02:27.669 get them gets the Carl and Coop prize pack. So 0:02:27.669 --> 0:02:30.550 call in, give it a guess. Three mandatory pieces of 0:02:30.550 --> 0:02:38.070 equipment for the Iditarod. Uh, is Google now? No, no, 0:02:38.110 --> 0:02:40.310 I on this one. You gotta you gotta go the 0:02:40.310 --> 0:02:45.630 old fashioned way. You got to guess 805, 55, 78, 98. 0:02:45.630 --> 0:02:50.030 Give us a call. Three essential tools that were mandatory 0:02:50.030 --> 0:02:53.230 for me to carry on the Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race. 0:02:53.230 --> 0:02:59.000 From Anchorage to Nome. There are probably seven. Okay. I'm 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:05.640 just asking that you get three. What were they? 805. Five. Five. 78. 98. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.600 There's method to this madness, right? Yes there is. 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.000 Yes there is. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.160 We're taking your calls right now. Guess three of them. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.239 You get a Carl and Crew prize pack. First one 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.799 to do it. I'm not going to keep giving them 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.919 out all day long. We'd be here all day long. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.320 But grab three of them and you get a Carl 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:32.720 and Crew prize pack. 805. Five. Five. 78. 98. 805 five. Five. 78. 98. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.040 Let's go mushing across Alaska here. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.080 She was trying to earn her way to God, but 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.600 God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.920 the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.320 All right, we got a fun question for you here, 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.680 and I'm going to fly blind. Ali. You bring them up, 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.360 we got a question teed up and a prize pack 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:53.880 on the line. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.940 Carl ran the Iditarod. It was a how many miles? 0:03:56.980 --> 0:03:58.060 How many miles was that? 0:03:58.100 --> 0:04:01.860 Oh, they called it 1100 mile race. Back in the day. 0:04:01.980 --> 0:04:03.460 You got lost. It might be more. 0:04:03.500 --> 0:04:08.780 1100 ish miles in Alaska. Is a famous dog sledding race. 0:04:08.780 --> 0:04:11.140 Carl did that when he was 18. So he's asking you, 0:04:11.540 --> 0:04:14.339 what do you think are the three essential tools that 0:04:14.740 --> 0:04:18.500 were required? There were more than three. But if you 0:04:18.540 --> 0:04:20.660 could get three right, you'll get a Carl and Crew 0:04:20.700 --> 0:04:23.420 prize pack. Let's see who gets close. Let's go to 0:04:23.460 --> 0:04:27.260 LaVonne from Illinois. Give us your three guesses. Go ahead. 0:04:28.620 --> 0:04:33.739 A warm coat, a good sled, and some faithful dogs. 0:04:33.779 --> 0:04:36.940 Okay, Carl, how do we land there? Any. 0:04:36.980 --> 0:04:40.740 Not. Not mandatory. Uh, that's funny you mention a coat. 0:04:40.740 --> 0:04:42.700 They should have made that mandatory, but I think that 0:04:42.700 --> 0:04:46.180 was self-evident. Kind of a deal. A sled was also self-evident. 0:04:46.180 --> 0:04:48.100 Good guess. Though, you got to have a good sled 0:04:48.100 --> 0:04:50.580 and dogs. I'm going to give you one on that 0:04:50.580 --> 0:04:54.510 because you actually have to finish the race with five. 0:04:54.550 --> 0:04:56.669 You can't go less than five if you get down 0:04:56.670 --> 0:05:00.070 to four. Boom, you're out of the race. But good. Go. 0:05:00.110 --> 0:05:01.830 I'm loving this. This is fun. 0:05:01.870 --> 0:05:05.350 Let's try another one. Lori. First time caller from Florida. 0:05:05.710 --> 0:05:08.190 Give us the three that you think were mandatory. 0:05:09.630 --> 0:05:12.790 Hi. Good morning guys. I think it is an ice pick. 0:05:12.830 --> 0:05:14.910 A rope and a fire starter. 0:05:15.150 --> 0:05:17.950 Oh good guesses. Uh, I'm going to give you fire 0:05:17.990 --> 0:05:21.870 starter because. A cooker was mandatory back when I ran 0:05:21.910 --> 0:05:24.790 back in the day a lot of years ago now. 0:05:24.910 --> 0:05:27.470 So if you're googling online, there's a little different. Kind 0:05:27.470 --> 0:05:29.670 of an angle on this, but I know ice pick 0:05:29.670 --> 0:05:33.630 and rope are not in there, but, uh, we're getting 0:05:33.630 --> 0:05:35.590 close with an ice pick, so that's what I'm going 0:05:35.630 --> 0:05:38.029 to say for future callers here. But good go, Lori. 0:05:38.029 --> 0:05:40.950 Thanks all of you taking guesses. This is wonderful. All right. 0:05:41.230 --> 0:05:42.270 Let's keep rolling here. 0:05:42.310 --> 0:05:45.110 Kiki, first time caller from Ohio. Give us your three. 0:05:46.350 --> 0:05:50.469 Well, I said, um, a sled in some outerwear, like, 0:05:50.470 --> 0:05:54.039 in case you fall off. Um. Like, why you riding 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.720 in some kind of something to stop your traction? Like 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.080 some pokes or something. You know, those sticks or whatever. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.080 Like they protect you from falling. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.200 Okay, okay. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:04.440 Very reasonable. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.120 Yeah. Very reasonable. Poles are used now. They're doing a 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.320 lot of sled pulling. So you'll see ski poles that 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.680 are used. Every musher uses them. So they push along 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.680 rather than just kicking between the runners, which is what 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.359 we did old school. But now a lot of sled pulls. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.400 So but none of those are required gear. Still looking 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.040 for top 3 or 3 of the required gear. You 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:26.960 got to have tools on board a sled when you're 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.840 mushing the dome. Let's keep going. Ali. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.720 Carol, first time caller from Florida. You get three guesses. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:32.479 Go ahead. 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.200 Okay. Uh, tent for like, a cover. If the wind 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.159 picks up too much, you got to get in shelter 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.760 and a flare in case you get lost. And some 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.240 MRE for food. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.840 Oh, this is good. Okay. Funny thing here, Carol. This 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.040 is a hoot. They didn't care if we had food 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:50.860 for the musher or not. But you had to have 0:06:50.860 --> 0:06:51.860 food for the dogs. 0:06:52.420 --> 0:06:52.860 Wow. 0:06:53.580 --> 0:06:58.099 Isn't that funny? And tint not required, uh, because most 0:06:58.100 --> 0:07:01.340 of us sleep in the sled bags on the Iditarod. 0:07:01.380 --> 0:07:05.140 I slept in my dog sled, and. But we're getting 0:07:05.140 --> 0:07:10.100 close with that one. Flair not required. Uh, meals for 0:07:10.100 --> 0:07:12.780 the dogs, though, was. We're getting closer. We're getting closer. 0:07:12.780 --> 0:07:14.180 All right, Ali, let's keep cooking here. 0:07:14.220 --> 0:07:17.020 Hanna, first time caller from Kentucky. Let's see how you 0:07:17.020 --> 0:07:19.460 do with this one. Go ahead. Give us your three guesses. 0:07:21.380 --> 0:07:25.660 Uh, chainsaw, a axe on snowshoes. 0:07:26.060 --> 0:07:29.060 Oh, Hannah's got two of the three. 0:07:29.260 --> 0:07:31.140 Whoa. Okay. Are you going to tell? Are you going 0:07:31.140 --> 0:07:32.180 to tell us which two? 0:07:32.220 --> 0:07:34.100 I'm going to tell? Because otherwise we're going to be 0:07:34.100 --> 0:07:38.060 here all day. Um, so axe and snowshoes were required 0:07:38.060 --> 0:07:41.740 gear when I competed in the Iditarod. Yep. You had 0:07:41.740 --> 0:07:44.300 to have snowshoes. If you didn't have them, you're disqualified 0:07:44.300 --> 0:07:46.420 from the race. If you didn't have an axe, you're 0:07:46.420 --> 0:07:48.910 disqualified from the race. Got to have him on board 0:07:48.910 --> 0:07:49.550 all the time. 0:07:49.590 --> 0:07:50.350 Okay, Hannah. 0:07:50.470 --> 0:07:54.070 No, no, no chainsaw required on the race. 0:07:54.110 --> 0:07:56.910 Hannah nailed two out of three. So we know that 0:07:56.910 --> 0:08:02.350 axe and snowshoes. So if you want to amend your answers. Axe, 0:08:02.350 --> 0:08:06.870 snowshoes and what? Let's give Steve, first time caller from Florida. 0:08:06.910 --> 0:08:13.910 Axe snowshoes. What do you think that last item is? Steve. 0:08:13.950 --> 0:08:16.830 First time caller from Florida. Go ahead. We've got axe 0:08:16.830 --> 0:08:19.270 and snowshoes. What do you think that third one is? 0:08:21.470 --> 0:08:23.630 Uh, axe, snowshoe and shovel. 0:08:24.550 --> 0:08:28.590 Are getting close. Steve, thank you for calling. Appreciate it. 0:08:28.870 --> 0:08:32.910 We got axe snowshoes, and there's. I've got seven things 0:08:32.910 --> 0:08:35.510 written down here that I had to carry on the Iditarod. 0:08:35.550 --> 0:08:37.150 Fill in the blank. One more. That's all we got 0:08:37.190 --> 0:08:37.830 to do. Ali. 0:08:37.870 --> 0:08:40.949 Kyle from Florida. Go. Go ahead. We've got axe snowshoes. 0:08:40.950 --> 0:08:42.510 Give a guess at that final one. 0:08:44.150 --> 0:08:46.640 A satellite phone or radio? 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.520 Yeah, it was illegal in my day. As a matter 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.240 of fact, they just made it legal to have satellite phones, 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.120 but we couldn't even have them back in the day. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.679 No phones, no radio, no communication. But good guess. These 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.160 are great guesses. All right, Ali, let's keep cooking. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.760 James, first time caller from Iowa acts snowshoes. Give a 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.480 guess at that. A final third item. 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.840 How about just a pair of pliers? 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.360 Yeah, that's not it. That's a good guess. And I 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:19.480 had pliers with me for sure. Boy, we're getting close here, guys. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.880 Let's go to Heidi. First time caller from Ohio. Give 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:23.760 us a guess. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:29.200 Okay. My third item. Axe, snow shoes and a compass. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:30.200 Compass? 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:35.360 No, that's a good idea. Guess. Really good. Guess. Really good. Guess. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:36.720 We're getting so close. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.400 Okay, let's see if Carol, first time caller from Florida, 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.880 can get that last one. Go. Go ahead. Carol, what's 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:42.600 your guess? 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.380 Listening to it at the snow shoes and dog food. 0:09:47.059 --> 0:09:49.540 You got it. Bingo. We'll give it to you right there. 0:09:49.580 --> 0:09:52.380 Carol from Florida. That was a group effort, guys. 0:09:52.420 --> 0:09:52.860 Yeah. 0:09:53.220 --> 0:09:53.980 It was a group effort. 0:09:54.020 --> 0:09:56.940 So give us the whole list of the seven snow shoes. 0:09:56.940 --> 0:09:57.939 Food for the dogs. 0:09:57.980 --> 0:10:00.540 Yeah, this might really surprise you, but it was mandatory 0:10:00.540 --> 0:10:04.140 to carry enough booties for a team between checkpoints. Dog 0:10:04.140 --> 0:10:07.460 booties so that if they if you were on ice 0:10:07.460 --> 0:10:10.380 or rough conditions, you could swap out booties and keep 0:10:10.380 --> 0:10:15.020 the dogs feet healthy. Wow. Um, axe food for dogs. 0:10:15.179 --> 0:10:19.300 Sleeping bag. That was Arctic approved. So you had to 0:10:19.300 --> 0:10:23.060 have a good sleeping bag on board. Obviously that should 0:10:23.059 --> 0:10:26.579 be self-explanatory, but for some guys, no joking. In Alaska, 0:10:26.580 --> 0:10:29.140 when I ran the Iditarod, not all these knuckleheads knew 0:10:29.179 --> 0:10:31.219 that they had to have a sleeping bag. They thought 0:10:31.220 --> 0:10:33.179 they were going to go sleep. In fact, I had 0:10:33.179 --> 0:10:35.940 a buddy that refused to sleep in a sleeping bag 0:10:35.940 --> 0:10:38.380 because he thought he would sleep too long. So he 0:10:38.420 --> 0:10:40.300 slept in all of his Arctic gear on top of 0:10:40.300 --> 0:10:41.820 the sled bag. How crazy is. 0:10:41.820 --> 0:10:43.469 That? Seems super dangerous. 0:10:43.630 --> 0:10:45.670 It was dangerous. As a matter of fact, he told 0:10:45.670 --> 0:10:47.710 me he wouldn't do it again after he ran a 0:10:47.710 --> 0:10:50.990 200 mile dog sled race and almost died. Okay. Um, 0:10:50.990 --> 0:10:55.750 a couple others. Uh, snowshoes, booties, axe, food for dogs, 0:10:55.750 --> 0:11:00.790 £2 of at least commercial feed for every dog in 0:11:00.790 --> 0:11:04.150 your team. When you left a checkpoint. Had to have that, uh, 0:11:04.590 --> 0:11:07.309 cooker was one thing that you had to have. Something 0:11:07.309 --> 0:11:09.230 that you could get over an open fire to cook 0:11:09.230 --> 0:11:12.710 that meal, and then another one back in the day. 0:11:12.710 --> 0:11:15.070 I don't know if this was mandatory or not. I 0:11:15.110 --> 0:11:17.709 forgot I'm forgetting the rules from my day, but I 0:11:17.750 --> 0:11:22.110 carried a 44. That's a pistol. And you carry that? Uh, 0:11:22.550 --> 0:11:25.270 not for killing game or anything like that and then 0:11:25.270 --> 0:11:29.510 eating it, but for especially self-protection. If you have a moose. 0:11:29.630 --> 0:11:33.750 Moose hate in the winter in Alaska, they don't like getting. 0:11:33.790 --> 0:11:37.270 They love dog sled trails because it's a it's a 0:11:37.270 --> 0:11:40.070 machine track. Usually a lot of snow machines have gone 0:11:40.070 --> 0:11:41.929 over it. And so the moose love they don't like 0:11:41.970 --> 0:11:44.610 waltzing through four feet of snow. So if you get 0:11:44.610 --> 0:11:48.010 in a really snowy area, those moose just congregate on 0:11:48.010 --> 0:11:50.490 the trail. So you come around the corner, here's a 0:11:50.490 --> 0:11:53.130 big old moose and you're like, out of the way, buddy. 0:11:53.170 --> 0:11:55.050 And there they are. They're like, I ain't getting in 0:11:55.090 --> 0:11:56.970 that deep snow. You can get in the deep snow. 0:11:56.970 --> 0:12:00.890 So it can be a standoff. And at times, very rarely. 0:12:01.250 --> 0:12:05.250 There's been occasions where moose will charge a team. Uh, 0:12:06.210 --> 0:12:09.250 I've had that happen before. Not on the Iditarod. Boy, 0:12:09.290 --> 0:12:10.450 moose charge a team. 0:12:10.450 --> 0:12:12.490 I won't ask for that story, because I know that 0:12:12.490 --> 0:12:15.050 would take us down a trail. Pun intended. 0:12:15.090 --> 0:12:18.490 It's it's tough because it can really be injurious to 0:12:18.530 --> 0:12:22.250 the musher and especially the dogs. But good guessing guys. 0:12:22.250 --> 0:12:24.290 We got some boom crews out there. 0:12:24.330 --> 0:12:25.250 Yeah, man. 0:12:25.610 --> 0:12:28.250 A lot of fun. Okay, coming up here in a moment. 0:12:28.250 --> 0:12:33.050 Back to resources for your spiritual life. Because running the Iditarod, 0:12:33.050 --> 0:12:36.450 probably not everyone's going to do it. But following Jesus, 0:12:36.450 --> 0:12:39.770 now we're talking coming up in a few minutes. We've 0:12:39.900 --> 0:12:42.900 got a moody Bible commentary on the line. Hang on. 0:12:43.340 --> 0:12:46.060 You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't 0:12:46.100 --> 0:12:49.939 take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew. 0:12:50.140 --> 0:12:52.700 It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:12:52.980 --> 0:12:55.660 Coming up here. We've got a great guest. We love 0:12:55.660 --> 0:12:56.780 this guy. Or what? Ellie? 0:12:56.820 --> 0:13:00.940 Hey, expert doctor Drew Dickens with some hot off the 0:13:00.940 --> 0:13:04.860 press updates for you and some cool ways to leverage AI. 0:13:05.420 --> 0:13:10.020 She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her. 0:13:10.460 --> 0:13:14.140 Super dei is in the crew. It's Carl and crew 0:13:14.179 --> 0:13:15.460 on Moody Radio. 0:13:15.780 --> 0:13:19.740 Well, he is coming at us hot. And if you 0:13:19.740 --> 0:13:22.500 don't catch up, we're going to be left in the dust. 0:13:22.540 --> 0:13:24.660 Does it scare you, Ali? What do you think about AI? 0:13:24.780 --> 0:13:29.140 Um. You know, it fascinates me, but I do find 0:13:29.140 --> 0:13:34.740 it a little scary. Like the robots and the kind 0:13:34.740 --> 0:13:37.740 of the not knowing if something that you're hearing or 0:13:37.740 --> 0:13:40.830 reading was written by an actual person. Most likely it 0:13:40.830 --> 0:13:45.150 was written by I as a journalist. It scares me 0:13:45.150 --> 0:13:45.790 a little bit. 0:13:46.350 --> 0:13:48.910 Yeah. I don't blame you. Uh, what do you say, 0:13:48.950 --> 0:13:53.150 Doctor Drew? Dickens. I expert before it was even popular. 0:13:54.750 --> 0:13:59.470 So? So you bring in the scary guy, right? That's right. So, Ali. 0:13:59.550 --> 0:14:01.990 Ali is already scared enough. So you bring in drew, 0:14:02.030 --> 0:14:03.230 and let's get really. 0:14:03.270 --> 0:14:05.750 Freak out a little bit more. What's going on? What's 0:14:05.750 --> 0:14:08.390 going on with I, in fact, back up a little bit. 0:14:08.429 --> 0:14:11.030 Give us your history. Wasn't there a time when you 0:14:11.030 --> 0:14:14.230 had written on. I did a doctoral dissertation and no one. 0:14:14.230 --> 0:14:15.510 You couldn't get a callback? 0:14:16.309 --> 0:14:20.510 Exactly. In seminary, I started writing on just technology and theology. 0:14:20.510 --> 0:14:22.630 But then when I started working my doctorate, which was 0:14:22.630 --> 0:14:26.390 an eternity ago, six years, I couldn't get a return 0:14:26.390 --> 0:14:29.870 phone call about I. Nobody. That was pre-gapped. Uh, so 0:14:29.870 --> 0:14:32.110 now it's just just like, oh my gosh, we haven't. 0:14:32.110 --> 0:14:33.750 You and I, the three of us haven't talked in 0:14:33.790 --> 0:14:37.730 maybe a month or so. And now everything has changed again. Uh, Ali, 0:14:37.770 --> 0:14:40.570 you just mentioned not knowing whether something was written by 0:14:40.570 --> 0:14:42.930 a person. I tell you what's been wild. There's been 0:14:42.930 --> 0:14:46.490 an ad for a company called Kalki, and the entire 0:14:46.530 --> 0:14:49.530 ad which would have normally taken an ad agency, I 0:14:49.530 --> 0:14:52.090 don't know, a year to have produced or whatever for 0:14:52.130 --> 0:14:55.210 untold millions of dollars. Uh, they did the entire thing 0:14:55.210 --> 0:14:57.850 in a day, created this ad in a day. And 0:14:57.850 --> 0:15:02.530 it's all generated by AI and costs. They're saying 97% 0:15:02.530 --> 0:15:06.130 less than what it would have cost an agency, and 0:15:06.130 --> 0:15:09.210 you can't tell it looks 100% real. It's just people 0:15:09.210 --> 0:15:10.970 we won't get into what call she is. That's a 0:15:10.970 --> 0:15:14.490 whole other conversation. But, um, it's it's people on video 0:15:14.490 --> 0:15:17.730 talking and you can't tell. So forget whether it's been 0:15:17.730 --> 0:15:20.690 written or not. Now we have, uh, whether it's been 0:15:20.690 --> 0:15:23.530 seen or not or created by a person and is 0:15:23.530 --> 0:15:27.490 what I'm watching and hearing real Doctor Drew. 0:15:27.490 --> 0:15:30.690 So give us what are the updates that we need 0:15:30.690 --> 0:15:33.410 to be aware of, just even since we've last spoken 0:15:33.410 --> 0:15:36.380 with you Since yesterday. 0:15:36.700 --> 0:15:40.700 Uh, so really, to can you continue that theme Google uh, 0:15:40.700 --> 0:15:42.660 has been they kind of stumbled coming out of the 0:15:42.660 --> 0:15:44.660 gate a few years ago. And boy, ever since then 0:15:44.660 --> 0:15:46.700 they've just been knocking it out of the park and 0:15:46.700 --> 0:15:49.980 they came out with a platform called Veo Veo three. 0:15:50.340 --> 0:15:55.220 And it allows for the creation of hyper realistic AI 0:15:55.220 --> 0:15:59.380 generated video. And what's wild about this is you think back, 0:15:59.420 --> 0:16:02.740 you know, I couldn't just decide tomorrow to start a 0:16:02.740 --> 0:16:05.140 radio station might cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to 0:16:05.180 --> 0:16:08.180 build out a studio. And you think about, you know, 0:16:08.180 --> 0:16:12.020 all the costs associated with production and whatnot. Now everybody 0:16:12.020 --> 0:16:17.900 has access. Google Gemini AI has 280 million daily active 0:16:17.940 --> 0:16:21.180 users who have access to these tools. Where I can 0:16:21.180 --> 0:16:25.140 today create something fake, fake news, whatever you want to 0:16:25.140 --> 0:16:27.620 call it. I can create a video, post it on YouTube, 0:16:27.660 --> 0:16:30.900 have it seen by millions, and never leave my laptop. 0:16:30.900 --> 0:16:35.510 And that's just the last couple of weeks and vo's driving, 0:16:35.750 --> 0:16:39.670 driving that industry like like we haven't seen any other technology. 0:16:39.950 --> 0:16:43.790 Doctor Drew Dickens with us right now. AI expert and 0:16:43.790 --> 0:16:46.870 consulted for all things AI when he couldn't get a 0:16:46.870 --> 0:16:49.870 call back six years ago. Finish up his PhD. This 0:16:49.870 --> 0:16:53.750 is crazy. What you're sharing here. I'm. I'm staying pretty 0:16:53.750 --> 0:16:56.550 abreast with what's going on. The only indication I had 0:16:56.550 --> 0:17:00.030 that that stuff like this was happening. My son has 0:17:00.030 --> 0:17:03.750 a good high school buddy who had built a significant 0:17:03.750 --> 0:17:08.830 company with graphic design and branding. He sold it a 0:17:08.830 --> 0:17:11.310 year ago because he's told my son he could see 0:17:11.310 --> 0:17:14.110 what's coming, and he he got rid of that company. 0:17:14.150 --> 0:17:17.429 He said, this is this company's dead in a year, 0:17:17.430 --> 0:17:20.190 and now it appears he might have been right. What 0:17:20.190 --> 0:17:23.390 is going on? What's going to happen to jobs in 0:17:23.390 --> 0:17:27.429 the area of just graphic design, let alone attorneys and 0:17:27.430 --> 0:17:28.350 everything else? 0:17:28.510 --> 0:17:30.670 Yeah, it's an interesting point. Your your son and his 0:17:30.670 --> 0:17:35.170 friend bring up Because just last week, several, uh, AI 0:17:35.210 --> 0:17:39.330 leaders were saying that 2020 6th May be the year 0:17:39.330 --> 0:17:44.490 that we see $1 billion valued company with one employee. 0:17:45.330 --> 0:17:48.090 Now kind of kind of wrap your head around that, okay. 0:17:48.130 --> 0:17:53.490 So no air, no walking it down to legal, no 0:17:53.890 --> 0:17:57.690 talking to the, you know, whatever. It's one employee, one 0:17:57.690 --> 0:18:00.609 one guy, one kid sitting on a laptop. Well, we 0:18:00.609 --> 0:18:03.530 will have a company valued at over $1 billion by 0:18:03.530 --> 0:18:06.570 this time next year. And it used to be robots. 0:18:06.609 --> 0:18:09.330 You know, Ali mentioned, you know, robots taking over the world. 0:18:09.369 --> 0:18:11.290 It used to be robots. I think where we're seeing 0:18:11.290 --> 0:18:13.810 most of the impact right now, most of the conversations 0:18:13.810 --> 0:18:16.810 on jobs being touched and again, to your son and 0:18:16.810 --> 0:18:20.409 his friend is software. Um, that's in that's a low hanging. 0:18:20.410 --> 0:18:23.090 That's a low bar, uh, because you can program. 0:18:23.130 --> 0:18:24.210 All the code writers. 0:18:24.210 --> 0:18:28.170 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And, uh, Zuckerberg meta came out with 0:18:28.210 --> 0:18:31.100 a quote, uh, two weeks or so ago now. Um, 0:18:31.100 --> 0:18:35.980 that already it's about 80% of their code. Meta. Facebook, Instagram. 0:18:36.260 --> 0:18:39.419 About 80% of their code is being written by AI. 0:18:39.740 --> 0:18:41.580 So it used to all be about that, but now 0:18:41.580 --> 0:18:44.220 it's getting into and again, not knowing what's been written 0:18:44.220 --> 0:18:46.980 by a person or not. So any anybody that's in 0:18:46.980 --> 0:18:51.740 content creation with writing. Yeah. With with producing like that 0:18:51.780 --> 0:18:54.780 boy study to become a plumber. That's the best advice 0:18:54.780 --> 0:18:55.580 right now. Wow. 0:18:56.060 --> 0:18:58.260 What's this do with you, Ali, when you hear this. 0:18:58.660 --> 0:19:01.900 There is the element of fear, of the uncertainty. But 0:19:01.900 --> 0:19:05.180 I want to talk about the positive here and kind 0:19:05.180 --> 0:19:06.780 of shift away. I don't want to seem like we're 0:19:06.780 --> 0:19:09.580 trying to freak everybody out. Coming up, Doctor Drew Dickens, 0:19:09.580 --> 0:19:12.380 our special guest. He's an AI expert. Let's talk about 0:19:12.380 --> 0:19:15.820 AI and spirituality. He has a whole podcast on this. 0:19:15.900 --> 0:19:19.540 How can we leverage AI to the positive to help 0:19:19.540 --> 0:19:22.980 us get stronger in the Lord? Is that possible? Can 0:19:22.980 --> 0:19:25.660 I even say that? Let's ask that question coming up. 0:19:26.340 --> 0:19:29.359 This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.560 With us right now. Doctor Drew Dickens, if you listen 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.639 to a few moments ago, you could go, oh no, 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.480 what is going to happen to me? My job, whatever 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.800 the case may be. But what if it could be true, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.240 as it was with the printing press, that we can 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:49.160 take something that appears to be, uh oh, maybe even 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.800 a form of something nefarious or evil, but God can 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.040 turn it for good. That's the point, right? Ali? 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.720 It is. Doctor Drew Dickens with us right now. How 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.600 can we leverage AI to help us in our walk 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.160 with the Lord? Is that possible? And to some people, 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:08.000 even asking that question seems like some sort of a 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:09.240 crime to even ask. 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.840 You know, I'm reminded of the verse in John 18 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.600 where Jesus is asked by Pilate, what is truth? And 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.480 that is a question I think more. There's so many 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.960 easy kind of toss away answers. Well, God is truth, 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.439 the Bible is truth, Jesus is truth, and all those 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:29.090 are true. But I think it's an important opportunity. It's 0:20:29.090 --> 0:20:32.250 an important time that each of us sit down and 0:20:32.250 --> 0:20:36.010 ask ourselves that question in a very serious way, because 0:20:36.010 --> 0:20:39.450 it's going to be challenged, whether it's jobs, whether it's 0:20:39.609 --> 0:20:42.609 video generation, whether it's, you know, watching the news and 0:20:42.609 --> 0:20:45.330 whether that's real or not. I think this, more than 0:20:45.330 --> 0:20:48.450 any other time, is an important opportunity to sit down 0:20:48.450 --> 0:20:51.889 and ask ourselves, what is truth? So when I say 0:20:51.930 --> 0:20:55.170 Scripture is true, God is true. What does that mean 0:20:55.170 --> 0:20:58.050 for me? Because that's going to be challenged. We're going 0:20:58.050 --> 0:21:03.170 to see videos of speakers of biblical speakers saying things 0:21:03.170 --> 0:21:06.730 that aren't true. And as we enter in times we 0:21:06.730 --> 0:21:09.729 know that from Scripture, from revelation that we're going to 0:21:09.850 --> 0:21:13.889 hear falsehoods. And so any any more time than this, 0:21:13.930 --> 0:21:16.090 it's going to be critical for us to sit down 0:21:16.090 --> 0:21:19.210 and evaluate our time with the Lord, our time in Scripture, 0:21:19.210 --> 0:21:22.169 where we're going to for resources like Moody, what are 0:21:22.170 --> 0:21:25.620 these teachers on air that I can trust? And that 0:21:25.619 --> 0:21:27.899 group is going to get smaller. And I think we 0:21:27.940 --> 0:21:31.180 each need to take the initiative to decide where I'm 0:21:31.220 --> 0:21:34.540 going for truth. But our ears are going to be tickled. 0:21:34.740 --> 0:21:37.379 They're going to be so many intriguing, alluring kind of 0:21:37.420 --> 0:21:40.300 things to look at, to listen to. Um, but what's 0:21:40.300 --> 0:21:42.340 the source of it? We're going to need to stop 0:21:42.340 --> 0:21:45.340 and ask ourselves that question. And through that, we grow 0:21:45.340 --> 0:21:47.100 closer to the Lord. And by the gifting of the 0:21:47.100 --> 0:21:50.980 Holy Spirit, we can grow closer to God through this opportunity. 0:21:51.020 --> 0:21:53.260 In fact, what an exciting opportunity for us to more 0:21:53.260 --> 0:21:56.060 intentionally decide what is truth to me. 0:21:56.300 --> 0:22:00.379 Doctor Drew Dickens, our guest right now a expert and 0:22:00.380 --> 0:22:03.060 born for such a time as this. You know, it's fascinating. 0:22:03.060 --> 0:22:07.340 I was wanting to study Jeremiah 49, the prophecy of Elam, 0:22:07.740 --> 0:22:12.140 and that is the Elamites, which is modern day Iran. 0:22:12.460 --> 0:22:16.500 And as I was studying that, it's just amazing what 0:22:16.580 --> 0:22:19.660 God did for me. I did a deep dive on 0:22:19.660 --> 0:22:22.900 I said, give me three different positions on this because 0:22:22.900 --> 0:22:25.560 I knew there was were three already fulfilled 600 BC 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:29.080 dual fulfillment. Future fulfillment. Who are the theologians? What do 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.359 they believe? What are they postulate and why? And what's 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:35.480 their basic arguments? No joking. It spit it out in 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:39.040 two seconds. Yeah, and then I cross-referenced to make sure 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:43.400 I'm not getting gobbledygook. And it's absolutely scoured the internet 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:45.960 for some of the best theologians. And I got six 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:50.720 different positions, clearly articulated in ways that I never could 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:55.240 have done in four hours with my library. 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:56.880 Yeah, exactly. Yes. 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:01.480 So there's things to leverage here, practically for anyone who's 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.159 broken and humbled before the Lord, that we can use 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:08.400 AI in powerful ways to fast track even learning. Right. 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:09.919 Well, and you mentioned grok, and I know you're a 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.120 fan of grok, and that's great. That's Elon Musk's, uh, 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.879 I exi used to be Twitter. Uh, his model probably 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.440 has the lowest guardrails. Uh, so it's going to give 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.720 you a lot more information. And boy, kudos to you 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:26.449 for stopping and double checking and cross-referencing those outputs. Perplexity 0:23:26.450 --> 0:23:29.050 is another language model that I would encourage everybody to 0:23:29.090 --> 0:23:32.649 take a look at. It provides citations. It sort of 0:23:32.690 --> 0:23:35.370 looks like Wikipedia at the end. There's almost a bibliography 0:23:35.369 --> 0:23:37.370 at the end of it at the end of their output. 0:23:37.410 --> 0:23:39.730 So it can it will tell you where it came from. 0:23:39.770 --> 0:23:43.850 ChatGPT of course, everybody's familiar with. So there are a 0:23:43.890 --> 0:23:46.810 lot of different language models out there for people to use, 0:23:47.170 --> 0:23:49.490 and all of them kind of have their specialty, if 0:23:49.490 --> 0:23:51.370 you will. And there are a lot of different versions. 0:23:51.410 --> 0:23:54.330 Not to get overwhelming with that, but any of those 0:23:54.330 --> 0:23:56.410 are a great place to start. And again, just the 0:23:56.410 --> 0:23:58.770 speed of you being able to chase a rabbit. You 0:23:58.770 --> 0:24:01.250 know how fun is that? When you when you're reading 0:24:01.250 --> 0:24:03.929 through Scripture and you see a reference to another verse, 0:24:03.930 --> 0:24:06.169 maybe in the Old Testament you're reading the new and 0:24:06.170 --> 0:24:08.649 you're like, wow, where did that come from? And all 0:24:08.650 --> 0:24:10.770 of a sudden you find yourself in, you know, third 0:24:10.810 --> 0:24:13.129 Hezekiah two eight or whatever, and you're like, wow, I 0:24:13.130 --> 0:24:15.890 did not I did not know that. And what an 0:24:15.890 --> 0:24:19.690 exciting opportunity just to just to get neck deep in 0:24:19.690 --> 0:24:22.230 the Word of God and allow it to have that 0:24:22.230 --> 0:24:23.510 tool to help you explore. 0:24:23.790 --> 0:24:27.830 Doctor drew, you spoke in a recent episode about how 0:24:28.070 --> 0:24:32.189 I guided you through grief in the loss of a 0:24:32.190 --> 0:24:34.989 family member. Can you tell? Tell us a little bit 0:24:34.990 --> 0:24:36.790 about what you shared in that episode? 0:24:37.350 --> 0:24:38.790 And by the way, in case any of your listeners 0:24:38.790 --> 0:24:41.350 are trying to look up third Hezekiah two eight, that's 0:24:41.350 --> 0:24:43.230 not a real passage. I just made that up just 0:24:43.230 --> 0:24:47.230 to illustrate the point. But but yes, it was about 0:24:47.230 --> 0:24:49.710 a month or so ago, and a friend passed away 0:24:49.710 --> 0:24:51.550 and I started to write a text. We've all done 0:24:51.550 --> 0:24:56.270 this and just found ourselves unable to find the words. Right? Um, 0:24:56.310 --> 0:24:58.630 and it says says that in Scripture about to interpret 0:24:58.630 --> 0:25:01.270 the groanings of our heart, you know, to the spirit. 0:25:01.270 --> 0:25:04.590 And I found myself just typing, deleting, typing, deleting. And 0:25:04.590 --> 0:25:07.990 I thought, okay, well, I'll have I write this text 0:25:08.030 --> 0:25:10.790 to one of my closest friends about his wife passing away, 0:25:11.109 --> 0:25:14.550 about how wrong is that? Did it. Um, and it 0:25:14.550 --> 0:25:17.669 was phenomenal. And I just couldn't send it, you know, 0:25:17.710 --> 0:25:20.119 it was like, you know, there's some things that should 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:24.160 be messy and should be hard. I makes everything easier. 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:25.840 And that's going to be, I think, part of the allure, 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.959 the tickling of the ear. It's going to be tempting 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.960 to take the short road, take take the wide gate, 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.600 not the narrow one. And I didn't send it, but 0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.800 it was interesting to see what a great job it did. 0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:39.920 And for me to realize, you know what? I do 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.280 need to do some of this the hard way. I 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.399 do need to get in there with pen and paper, 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.040 and do the hard work of studying and working through 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.119 the words. So that was a good lesson for me. 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.640 That is so beautiful. Well, we've got a link for you, 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:54.880 boom crew, because some of you are listening to this going, 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.240 all right, I might have a little bit of knees 0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.720 knocking here, but I'm ready to plug in a keyword. 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:00.720 What do you say, Ali? 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.119 Well, if you want more, we've got some resources for you. 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:05.439 Doctor Drew Dickens, our guest. We're going to link you 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.120 to the podcast and encouraging article and also a book 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.760 he has out, whispers of the spirit A 40 Day 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.040 Guide to Intimate Prayer. Lots there. Just text the word 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:23.450 drew to 805 555 7898. Text drew to 800 555 7898. 0:26:23.970 --> 0:26:27.010 He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you 0:26:27.010 --> 0:26:31.250 can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's 0:26:31.250 --> 0:26:33.450 curling crew on Moody Radio. 0:26:34.170 --> 0:26:35.970 Well, this whole week we're going to be giving you 0:26:35.970 --> 0:26:40.490 transformational resources. And I'm loving what we're doing here this 0:26:40.490 --> 0:26:42.050 week because we're going to give you some tools that 0:26:42.050 --> 0:26:44.330 are going to be dynamite all week long. Boy, some 0:26:44.330 --> 0:26:45.930 of the stuff that we have lined up for this 0:26:45.930 --> 0:26:49.410 week is epic. But I called the young man yesterday, 0:26:49.410 --> 0:26:52.810 called a young man, Doctor Michael Ray Melnick. 0:26:52.850 --> 0:26:53.409 Yes. 0:26:54.170 --> 0:26:56.690 And I said, Michael, could you come on air and 0:26:56.690 --> 0:27:00.170 share with us the most transformational tool that God has 0:27:00.170 --> 0:27:03.530 used in your life to grow spiritually? He said, I'd 0:27:03.570 --> 0:27:05.930 be happy to do that. And I do not know 0:27:05.930 --> 0:27:10.290 what it is. So I'm looking forward to it. And 0:27:10.290 --> 0:27:12.250 I also wanted him to weigh in a little bit 0:27:12.250 --> 0:27:16.630 about what's going on in Israel today, so we're going 0:27:16.670 --> 0:27:19.550 to get that for you. It's an important thing, though, 0:27:19.590 --> 0:27:22.149 to keep Kingdom focused. I did a quick deep dive 0:27:22.150 --> 0:27:24.350 over the last 2000 years. There's been a lot of 0:27:24.350 --> 0:27:28.350 things to derail us, but whether it's Augustine with City 0:27:28.350 --> 0:27:32.030 of God, whether it's the disciples that were in a 0:27:32.030 --> 0:27:36.470 Greco-Roman culture, boy, they didn't lose their focus on kingdom stuff. 0:27:36.470 --> 0:27:39.990 It is so easy to look at political landscape, cultural landscape, 0:27:39.990 --> 0:27:43.870 geopolitical stuff and get so derailed, is it not, Ali? 0:27:43.910 --> 0:27:47.350 You can get stuck in anger. You can get stuck 0:27:47.350 --> 0:27:49.830 in fear and uncertainty. I mean, there's a lot of 0:27:49.830 --> 0:27:52.750 different emotions you can be feeling if you spend a 0:27:52.790 --> 0:27:55.389 lot of time taking in the news. And we absolutely 0:27:55.390 --> 0:27:58.510 need to stay informed with what's happening in the world. 0:27:58.790 --> 0:28:01.710 But we do not have to give way to anger 0:28:01.710 --> 0:28:05.030 or fear or any of the other complex emotions that 0:28:05.030 --> 0:28:06.190 we may be feeling. 0:28:06.510 --> 0:28:10.030 Amen. That is so true. This is Tyrion. Honestly, we 0:28:10.030 --> 0:28:13.760 just need Jesus. Coming up, Doctor Michael Riedel down the 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:18.000 answer in the question. What's the most transformational tool God 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.120 has used in your life to grow spiritually? 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.520 You're listening to Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:30.040 Talking transformational resources all week long. I've got a transformational resource, Ali. 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:31.200 Oh. What's that? 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.760 I've got Michael Redlick on speed dial. And you know what? 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.480 He's a great sport. He picks up for me all 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.040 the time. He goes, what's up? And I go, all right. 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:47.080 Yesterday it was Jeremiah 4932 to the end of the chapter. Ilam, Iran. 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:51.360 And we had a great discussion. Let's get this young 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.920 man in here. Michael, what's the most transformational tool God 0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.440 has used in your life to grow you up with Jesus? 0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:59.600 Well, it's good to be with you. I'd like to 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.400 say it was you, but, uh. Yeah. 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:04.120 Yeah. Okay, okay. 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.880 Listen, the top 100 list, you're the. Yeah, you're you're 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.370 big there. You're you're tall. Uh, hey, no one's ever 0:29:12.370 --> 0:29:14.770 called me young in a long time, so I. 0:29:14.930 --> 0:29:17.650 Thought, I'm just feeling the joy of the Lord. And 0:29:17.650 --> 0:29:19.410 I thought I'd spread it around this morning. Michael. 0:29:19.650 --> 0:29:23.370 Thank you, thank you. Hey, uh, I'd say, you know, 0:29:23.410 --> 0:29:26.410 you guessed it. Uh, I never told you when we 0:29:26.410 --> 0:29:29.209 talked about this yesterday, but you guessed. And it's the 0:29:29.210 --> 0:29:31.290 word of God. It's the Bible. I think that's the 0:29:31.290 --> 0:29:35.290 most transformational tool in my walk with the Lord. Uh, 0:29:35.610 --> 0:29:40.010 but it's it's not just reading it. It's reading it 0:29:40.010 --> 0:29:45.810 for life. Change is what I think. Uh, I learned mainly, 0:29:45.850 --> 0:29:47.690 and I was always told I had to do that, 0:29:47.690 --> 0:29:51.090 but it was Howard Hendricks, a professor I had in 0:29:51.090 --> 0:29:54.690 seminary that taught us how to read it for life change. 0:29:55.050 --> 0:29:57.810 And it it really has made a difference. 0:29:57.850 --> 0:30:00.690 And what's what's the difference maker that he gave you? 0:30:01.010 --> 0:30:04.250 Well, first of all, there's a book with his material 0:30:04.250 --> 0:30:06.690 that people should get. It's a moody publishers book. It's 0:30:06.690 --> 0:30:09.770 called living by the book. It's sort of the course 0:30:10.010 --> 0:30:12.470 Bible study methods I took with him. It's put into 0:30:12.470 --> 0:30:15.190 a book and that's that's just a great tool for 0:30:15.190 --> 0:30:17.990 people to use. But one of the things he mentioned, 0:30:17.990 --> 0:30:20.030 and I talk about this all the time on Open Line, 0:30:20.030 --> 0:30:26.750 my radio program on Saturday mornings is, uh, specs. Uh, 0:30:26.750 --> 0:30:29.950 always put your specs on when you read the Bible. 0:30:30.190 --> 0:30:34.350 And what that refers to is putting, uh, glasses for 0:30:34.350 --> 0:30:38.670 life change. And so, uh, this is the acronym A 0:30:38.710 --> 0:30:43.590 sin to avoid a promise to claim an example to follow, 0:30:43.910 --> 0:30:48.510 a command to obey, or a statement to believe. Wow. That's. 0:30:48.550 --> 0:30:50.709 I'd forgotten that. You're right. Yeah. 0:30:51.030 --> 0:30:54.229 And, uh, when I read the Bible, I'm I'm I'm 0:30:54.270 --> 0:30:57.670 doing the observation interpretation application, just like I was taught. 0:30:57.670 --> 0:31:00.870 But that's what I'm looking for. Uh, I put my 0:31:00.870 --> 0:31:03.310 specs on, and I'm trying to not read it just 0:31:03.310 --> 0:31:07.390 for information gathering for, uh, you know, to know stuff, 0:31:07.590 --> 0:31:10.840 but to experience life change, and that's how I do it. 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:12.600 And I was going to give you an example just 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.920 the other day I was reading in Exodus, and it's 0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:18.080 sort of like an example not to follow, to be honest. Uh, 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:24.880 I was reading in Exodus six and it's there when, uh, under, uh, 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:31.240 the Exodus six nine, it says, uh, God promised that 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.280 he was going to bring the people of Israel out 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.640 of their bondage and give them the land that, uh, 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.680 that he promised them. And then it says, Moses told 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.200 this to the Israelites. Verse nine. But they did not 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:48.040 listen to him because of their broken spirit and hard labor. 0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.280 And I thought, how often does God have comforting words 0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:58.479 for us from His Word? Encouraging words. And because of difficulties, 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:02.720 tough circumstances, tough situations. Do we not want to hear it? 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:09.620 And and how do we make ourselves open in those 0:32:09.620 --> 0:32:13.700 tough times. And so then I wrote down, because Howard 0:32:13.700 --> 0:32:15.860 Hendricks always said, never read the Bible without a pen 0:32:15.860 --> 0:32:18.700 in your hand. How do we make ourselves open when 0:32:18.700 --> 0:32:22.980 we're broken? And I began to really contemplate and meditate 0:32:22.980 --> 0:32:26.020 on that from the Word of God. What is it 0:32:26.020 --> 0:32:29.540 that keeps us open to God's Word when we're broken? 0:32:29.700 --> 0:32:31.700 And I and I came up with some steps that 0:32:31.700 --> 0:32:35.740 I would take to keep myself open, even during tough times. 0:32:35.900 --> 0:32:40.500 And that's that's what I mean by reading the Bible. 0:32:40.500 --> 0:32:43.020 I'm not just reading the Bible to fill my head. 0:32:43.020 --> 0:32:45.580 I want to change my heart. And and that's what 0:32:45.580 --> 0:32:46.459 I'm looking at. 0:32:46.500 --> 0:32:49.780 Doctor Michael Riedel, our guest this morning. Coming up, we 0:32:49.820 --> 0:32:53.140 have seen a surge in Bible sales. We talked about 0:32:53.140 --> 0:32:57.580 this a little bit last year, 22% increase in sales 0:32:57.580 --> 0:33:00.020 of Bibles. So I'm going to ask Doctor Michael Riedel 0:33:00.460 --> 0:33:03.340 to this, to speak to that person who's getting a 0:33:03.340 --> 0:33:07.870 Bible for the very first time has no familiarity, has 0:33:07.870 --> 0:33:10.990 not been in a church, doesn't even know where to start. 0:33:10.990 --> 0:33:13.870 Do I open it and start at Genesis one and 0:33:13.870 --> 0:33:15.830 read it all the way through? What would you say 0:33:15.830 --> 0:33:19.150 to the brand new Bible reader that coming up with 0:33:19.150 --> 0:33:20.070 Doctor Michael Riedel? 0:33:20.750 --> 0:33:23.510 It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:33:23.750 --> 0:33:27.270 Well, when you've got people on TikTok documenting the purchase 0:33:27.270 --> 0:33:33.430 of their first Bible, you know, something shifted a little bit. 22% 0:33:33.470 --> 0:33:37.630 jump in Bible sales last year. Doctor Michael Riedel, our 0:33:37.630 --> 0:33:39.510 guest right now, I want you to speak to the 0:33:39.510 --> 0:33:44.430 person who is maybe purchasing or or opening a Bible 0:33:44.590 --> 0:33:49.229 for the very first time. What's the best tool to 0:33:49.270 --> 0:33:51.350 help them get a good start? 0:33:52.030 --> 0:33:53.710 Well, I would say the first thing to do is 0:33:53.710 --> 0:33:57.790 get a Bible that you can read and understand. You know, 0:33:57.830 --> 0:34:00.430 some people think, oh, I need to get a Bible 0:34:00.430 --> 0:34:05.680 that has flowery language or is the classic authorized version, 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:10.359 I'd say get yourself an understandable Bible. And the way 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.520 to do that is pick up something like the New 0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.560 Living Translation. I also think the one that I was 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:19.759 just reading from the Holman CSB. Very good translation. I 0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.239 think there are other good translations. I'm not trying to 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.480 say those are the only two, but those are easy 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:29.719 to understand. They're in modern language and you'll you'll do 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.959 much better with that. Second step is to not just 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:37.319 start in Genesis because that'll be kind of interesting. But 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.120 then you'll you'll get to Leviticus and you're like, oh man, 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:44.800 I'm not going through with this. And yeah, and so 0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.680 or even the second half of Exodus, you may have 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:51.920 a hard time. So what I would say is I read, uh, 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:56.280 from 3 or 4 different sections of the Bible every day. Uh, 0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:01.600 and so I read a gospel, an epistle, and I'll, 0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.939 I'll read from the historical books of the Old Testament, 0:35:05.140 --> 0:35:09.299 and then I'll read like Psalms, Proverbs, things like that. Uh, 0:35:09.340 --> 0:35:13.220 in the or prophets. And, and this way I'll take 0:35:13.860 --> 0:35:18.300 a couple of chapters from the historical books. A chapter from, uh, 0:35:18.420 --> 0:35:23.220 that Psalms, Proverbs, that area, and then a chapter from 0:35:23.219 --> 0:35:26.100 the New Testament, from the Gospels, and then a chapter 0:35:26.100 --> 0:35:29.180 from the epistles. And I'll end up with about five 0:35:29.620 --> 0:35:33.340 chapters a day, at least as a minimum. And that 0:35:33.340 --> 0:35:37.020 will give me a good smattering of, of, of, uh, 0:35:37.100 --> 0:35:40.020 where the Bible is. And this way I'm not stuck 0:35:40.020 --> 0:35:44.020 in just one area. It gives you a broader perspective. Uh, 0:35:44.260 --> 0:35:47.940 I would say also, uh, get some basic tools for 0:35:47.940 --> 0:35:50.940 understanding the Bible. I would say get that book by 0:35:51.100 --> 0:35:55.980 Howard Hendricks, which is, uh, really terrific book called living 0:35:55.980 --> 0:35:59.460 by the book. And then lastly, uh, what I would 0:35:59.460 --> 0:36:04.470 do is just keep reading. Be consistent. Don't think that 0:36:04.469 --> 0:36:06.790 that you need to be a genius to read the Bible, 0:36:06.790 --> 0:36:09.830 or you need some special skills. The most important skill 0:36:09.830 --> 0:36:12.590 you have is the ability to read. And so read 0:36:12.590 --> 0:36:17.029 the Bible. Uh, just regularly. And I'll give you my 0:36:17.070 --> 0:36:20.990 two rules of biblical interpretation. Ready? If you didn't. Well, 0:36:21.030 --> 0:36:23.830 in order to understand the Bible, we must read it. 0:36:24.390 --> 0:36:27.549 And then secondly, uh, if you didn't understand it the 0:36:27.550 --> 0:36:30.190 first time, read it again. And there we go. 0:36:30.590 --> 0:36:32.870 I love it. You know what? That's hope filled. That 0:36:32.870 --> 0:36:36.270 is so hope to anyone listening right now. I so 0:36:36.270 --> 0:36:38.830 appreciate that. I want to touch on this quickly. I 0:36:38.870 --> 0:36:42.550 called you yesterday about Jeremiah 49. You spoke of foreshadowing 0:36:42.550 --> 0:36:48.190 because this prophecy here by Jeremiah of Iran called Islam 0:36:48.630 --> 0:36:53.710 was not fully fulfilled in 600 BC. And it talks 0:36:53.750 --> 0:36:56.190 of the Lord will set up his throne in Elam 0:36:56.190 --> 0:36:58.710 and destroy the kings and officials, declares the Lord. But 0:36:58.710 --> 0:37:01.799 in the latter days I will restore the fortunes of Elam, 0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.880 declares the Lord. Speak about. There's a there's a lot 0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:08.080 of discussion about how do I read prophecy? Foreshadowing is 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:11.280 a phenomenal statement. Explain what you mean by that. 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:16.120 Well, Genesis 49, where it talks about in the latter days. Okay, 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.719 that's talking about the end of days. So, uh, I 0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.000 see the restoration that's there in Genesis 49 as an 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.839 end of days experience. Uh, but one of the things 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.319 that we have seen, and this is pretty typical with 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:33.160 biblical prophecy, and it's important to see this. It's not 0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.440 we don't see the fulfillment. We're not seeing partial fulfillment. 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:40.279 We're not seeing that. But what will happen over time 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.440 is that they'll seem to be that the very same 0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:47.080 thing that the Bible is talking about kind of happens, uh, 0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.680 in a, in a historical setting and we say, is 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.000 this the fulfillment? And it's not because it doesn't meet 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.600 all the requirements. However, it gives us a picture, a 0:37:56.620 --> 0:38:01.339 A foreshadowing of what the fulfillment will be. And there 0:38:01.340 --> 0:38:03.500 was a guy named Charles Briggs who wrote about this 0:38:03.540 --> 0:38:05.739 in a book about 100 years ago. And I was 0:38:05.739 --> 0:38:09.180 reading this book for my doctoral dissertation a long time ago, 0:38:09.180 --> 0:38:12.780 and I thought, he's exactly right. He's exactly right. So, 0:38:12.980 --> 0:38:20.100 for example, uh, the the desolation, the abomination of desolation 0:38:20.100 --> 0:38:27.100 by Titus and by Antiochus in, uh, in history foreshadows 0:38:27.140 --> 0:38:31.380 an abomination of desolation that the corruption of the temple. 0:38:31.620 --> 0:38:35.780 Yet in the future, when a future political ruler, false 0:38:35.780 --> 0:38:39.739 Messiah arises and does it now, what they did were 0:38:39.739 --> 0:38:45.740 not partial fulfillments. What Titus, the Roman general, did what Antiochus, 0:38:45.980 --> 0:38:50.180 the Syrian king, did. They were not fulfillments, but they 0:38:50.180 --> 0:38:52.980 were foreshadowings of what that end of days event will 0:38:52.980 --> 0:38:53.580 look like. 0:38:53.900 --> 0:38:56.910 Yeah, it's so fascinating. One more quick hit. I got 0:38:56.950 --> 0:38:59.670 one minute on this one. If you look at Israel, 0:38:59.670 --> 0:39:03.110 a lot of people question why are they God's chosen 0:39:03.110 --> 0:39:06.590 people when they are so secular and in many ways 0:39:06.630 --> 0:39:07.710 God less? 0:39:09.190 --> 0:39:14.590 Well, there there are no more godless than any other nation. 0:39:14.630 --> 0:39:15.510 Even even. 0:39:15.550 --> 0:39:16.630 Gentiles. Yeah. 0:39:17.070 --> 0:39:19.310 Yeah, I think we have to keep it that way. Uh, 0:39:19.310 --> 0:39:22.310 God chose Israel according to Deuteronomy. Not because they were 0:39:22.310 --> 0:39:25.950 better or bigger, but because he loved them. Uh, he 0:39:26.310 --> 0:39:29.070 he said this, and it says it even in their 0:39:29.350 --> 0:39:33.750 opposition to the gospel in Romans 1128. It doesn't matter. 0:39:33.950 --> 0:39:37.470 It says that God still loves them, still chooses them. 0:39:37.830 --> 0:39:41.029 If you read Romans 1128, it's very clear. Despite their 0:39:41.030 --> 0:39:46.070 opposition to the gospel, that that choice remains faithful. That 0:39:46.110 --> 0:39:50.670 it's dependent on God, not the people. And so, you know, 0:39:50.710 --> 0:39:53.550 people say it's biblical Israel and modern Israel the same. 0:39:53.710 --> 0:39:59.290 I would say biblical Israel, ancient biblical Israel, and modern Israel. 0:39:59.810 --> 0:40:03.169 They're both the nation state of the Jewish people. And 0:40:03.170 --> 0:40:07.129 so there is it's not exactly the same. Biblical was 0:40:07.130 --> 0:40:10.250 a theocracy. Today is a democracy, but it's still the 0:40:10.250 --> 0:40:13.009 nation state of the Jewish people. And so we have 0:40:13.010 --> 0:40:16.170 to see that connection and those promises that God made 0:40:16.170 --> 0:40:18.610 to Israel. God's going to be faithful to them. 0:40:19.050 --> 0:40:22.810 Michael Riedel, everybody, great young man. I'm going to keep 0:40:22.810 --> 0:40:25.290 calling you that. And thank you for ducking in here today. 0:40:25.330 --> 0:40:28.489 Really appreciate your contribution to the show. Michael. Thank you. 0:40:28.810 --> 0:40:32.130 We've got a resource for you right now, don't we, Ali? 0:40:32.489 --> 0:40:36.450 Yeah, we have that. Michael mentioned that Bible study specs. 0:40:36.450 --> 0:40:39.210 If you want that broken down, those things to look 0:40:39.210 --> 0:40:42.370 for as you're reading the Bible, just text specs s 0:40:42.370 --> 0:40:47.530 p e c s specs like spectacles specs to 855 0:40:47.570 --> 0:40:53.610 five 7898. Text specs to 855 five 7898.