WEBVTT - Hour 1: Ways to Enjoy the Bible 0:00:08.210 --> 0:00:12.950 Today is Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement described in 0:00:12.950 --> 0:00:16.610 Leviticus 16. It's the perfect time to talk about how 0:00:16.610 --> 0:00:20.150 sins were forgiven before the Messiah Jesus came, and how 0:00:20.150 --> 0:00:24.590 they can still be forgiven today. Stay with me. We'll 0:00:24.590 --> 0:00:27.800 talk about that in just a moment. Hello, friends. Welcome 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:31.490 to Open Line with doctor Michael Melnick. That's me. Moody 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:36.260 Radio's Bible study across America. As I said my Name 0:00:36.260 --> 0:00:39.890 Michael Ray Melnick, academic, dean and professor of Jewish Studies 0:00:39.890 --> 0:00:42.620 and Bible at Moody Bible Institute. And I'm so glad 0:00:42.620 --> 0:00:46.040 to be with you, sitting around the radio kitchen table 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.300 and taking your questions about the Bible, God, and the 0:00:50.300 --> 0:00:52.430 spiritual life. If you have a question and you'd like 0:00:52.430 --> 0:00:58.970 to call the phone number here (877) 548-3675. Let me give 0:00:58.970 --> 0:01:01.450 it to you again. Maybe a little slower. You can 0:01:01.450 --> 0:01:11.080 write it down. (877) 548-3675. And usually when people ask me 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.630 when can I get my call through? It's hard to 0:01:13.630 --> 0:01:15.190 get through. I know it's hard to get through. But 0:01:15.190 --> 0:01:17.560 the best time to call at the beginning of the program. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.260 So if you've been wondering about a particular question, now's 0:01:20.260 --> 0:01:27.250 the time to call before everyone else does. Again (877) 548-3675. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.370 Thanks to Tricia McMillan, she's in the producer's chair. Chris 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:34.180 Seeger is our tech guy today, and tiara is answering 0:01:34.180 --> 0:01:41.350 the phones. Again, phone number (877) 548-3675. Go get yourself a 0:01:41.350 --> 0:01:45.760 cup of coffee. Open your Bible. Because we're about to 0:01:45.790 --> 0:01:51.520 study the scriptures together. Here's a common question asked of 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.720 me during the Old Testament. During those times, how did 0:01:55.720 --> 0:02:01.990 the Jewish people experience forgiveness. It's a good question because 0:02:01.990 --> 0:02:05.170 the Messiah, Jesus, had not yet come and hadn't provided 0:02:05.170 --> 0:02:09.520 atonement with his death and resurrection. It's especially significant during 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.850 the fall High Holy Days with Rosh Hashanah a week 0:02:12.850 --> 0:02:17.529 and a half ago and Yom Kippur today. So the 0:02:17.530 --> 0:02:22.270 simple answer is that people have experienced God's forgiveness the 0:02:22.270 --> 0:02:27.340 same way always. We've always been forgiven by grace through 0:02:27.340 --> 0:02:30.760 faith in the revealed will of God. That's it. Let 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.060 me say it again by grace through faith in the 0:02:34.060 --> 0:02:37.450 revealed will of God, it says in Genesis 15 six, 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:41.140 Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him or 0:02:41.139 --> 0:02:45.250 reckoned to him as righteousness. When the nation of Israel 0:02:45.250 --> 0:02:47.889 lived under the laws described in the book of Leviticus, 0:02:47.889 --> 0:02:51.820 which is where we see the Day of Atonement, what 0:02:51.820 --> 0:02:54.010 was the revealed will of God? Of them they were 0:02:54.010 --> 0:02:57.110 called upon to believe that the sacrifices they offered would 0:02:57.110 --> 0:03:00.080 provide atonement. They were also to trust that one day 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.070 the Messiah would come and provide. Atonement. So what was 0:03:04.070 --> 0:03:08.839 Yom Kippur about? On Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.930 the high priest would first offer a bull for himself 0:03:11.930 --> 0:03:15.230 and his family and then offer a goat for the 0:03:15.230 --> 0:03:19.970 sins of the people of Israel. Leviticus 1615 reads, The 0:03:19.970 --> 0:03:23.210 high priest is to sprinkle it against the mercy seat 0:03:23.210 --> 0:03:26.690 and in front of it. Then these two sacrifices, the 0:03:26.690 --> 0:03:31.730 bull and the goat, provided ritual cleansing. Not not actual cleansing, 0:03:31.730 --> 0:03:34.880 but ritual cleansing for the whole tent of meeting, the 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:41.930 holy place and the altar. Additionally, Leviticus 1617 says, they made. 0:03:41.930 --> 0:03:45.950 And here's the key word atonement, a word that means 0:03:45.950 --> 0:03:50.660 wipe away or to cover. It would make atonement for 0:03:50.660 --> 0:03:54.500 the sins of the priest, his family, and the people 0:03:54.500 --> 0:03:59.100 of Israel. These sacrifices, in a sense, provided a covering 0:03:59.100 --> 0:04:02.970 for the sins of Israel until the Messiah Jesus would come, 0:04:03.090 --> 0:04:06.360 and then he would die for sin and be raised again. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:11.280 And with his death and resurrection, the Messiah Jesus actually 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:16.140 became the ultimate sacrifice for sin, taking away sin completely, 0:04:16.380 --> 0:04:20.190 which the blood of these bulls and goats never could do. 0:04:20.220 --> 0:04:22.770 It worked like this. I might buy stuff with a 0:04:22.770 --> 0:04:26.340 credit card and then when the bill comes due, I think, ah, 0:04:26.370 --> 0:04:29.580 I can't pay it. So I pay the minimum monthly 0:04:29.580 --> 0:04:33.719 payment at the due date. And this keeps the bank 0:04:33.750 --> 0:04:38.190 at bay for another month. My debt is paid, but 0:04:38.190 --> 0:04:41.100 when I increase my debt the next month because I 0:04:41.100 --> 0:04:45.060 keep using that credit card, more interest is added. And 0:04:45.060 --> 0:04:47.730 the next month when the bill comes, I again only 0:04:47.730 --> 0:04:52.170 pay the minimum amount and I never deal with the principal. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.070 That's how the sacrifices were. They covered the debt from 0:04:56.070 --> 0:05:00.150 Yom Kippur to Yom Kippur, but they never paid the 0:05:00.150 --> 0:05:04.800 principle debt to God. When the Messiah Jesus came, his 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:09.360 death atoned for all sin. He paid the principal and 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.750 the interest for all past debts and even future ones. 0:05:12.779 --> 0:05:16.350 His resurrection proved he did that. And that's why we're 0:05:16.350 --> 0:05:21.240 forgiven by grace, through faith in the Messiah, Jesus, and 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:25.920 through him alone. God has provided and revealed forgiveness through 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.580 Jesus the Messiah. Hebrews 911 says of the Lord Jesus 0:05:29.580 --> 0:05:32.580 our High priest, he entered the Most Holy place once 0:05:32.580 --> 0:05:35.490 for all, not by the blood of goats and calves, 0:05:35.490 --> 0:05:40.500 but by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption. Hebrews 0:05:40.500 --> 0:05:44.070 1012 says of Jesus the Messiah, that after offering one 0:05:44.070 --> 0:05:47.339 sacrifice for sins for ever, he sat down at the 0:05:47.339 --> 0:05:50.550 right hand of God, showing that the work of atonement 0:05:50.550 --> 0:05:56.830 was complete. the Yom Kippur sacrifices. In fact, all the torahs. 0:05:56.860 --> 0:06:01.510 The Law of Moses animal sacrifices pointed forward to the 0:06:01.510 --> 0:06:06.430 Messiah's ultimate sacrifice. Jesus, the Messiah's offering of himself was 0:06:06.430 --> 0:06:09.910 that ultimate sacrifice. Today, we don't trust in bulls and 0:06:09.910 --> 0:06:13.060 goats to give us a covering for sin. Rather, we 0:06:13.060 --> 0:06:16.210 believe in the Lord Jesus, and all our debt to 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.890 God is removed forever and ever. Contemporary Jewish people observe 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.910 Yom Kippur without sacrifices because the Romans destroyed the temple 0:06:24.910 --> 0:06:28.390 in A.D. 70. All over the world, Jewish people today 0:06:28.390 --> 0:06:32.830 are praying sorrowful penitential prayers. Jewish people make sure to 0:06:32.860 --> 0:06:36.100 reconcile with those whom they may have hurt. They fast 0:06:36.100 --> 0:06:39.670 from food to show their sorrow from sin for sin. 0:06:39.670 --> 0:06:44.050 But for the most part, most Jewish people don't believe 0:06:44.050 --> 0:06:48.700 in the Messiah Jesus and don't have any assurance of forgiveness. 0:06:48.730 --> 0:06:52.500 That's why messianic congregations across the globe are so significant, 0:06:52.500 --> 0:06:56.280 messianic Jews come together to observe Yom Kippur, not to 0:06:56.310 --> 0:07:01.080 plead for forgiveness, but to celebrate the true forgiveness available 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.380 only by faith in the Messiah, Jesus, and to proclaim 0:07:04.380 --> 0:07:07.799 this good news of Jesus to all people, especially their 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.580 Jewish friends and family. When I was in college, I 0:07:11.610 --> 0:07:14.730 typed papers for my profs and if there was an error, 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.190 I used a little wite-out to correct them. A little 0:07:17.190 --> 0:07:20.580 liquid paper, something like that. It provided a covering but 0:07:20.580 --> 0:07:24.240 didn't take away the errors. When I went to seminary, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.590 I would type my papers on an IBM Selectric typewriter 0:07:28.590 --> 0:07:31.410 and it would suck the errors right off the page, 0:07:31.410 --> 0:07:35.340 but still leave an imprint. You could know that I 0:07:35.340 --> 0:07:38.220 made a mistake there, that there was an error, and 0:07:38.220 --> 0:07:42.780 then I would type over those those imprints. But when 0:07:42.780 --> 0:07:46.920 I did my doctoral dissertation, I used a computer. Now 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:51.360 with a computer, I could delete a line, I could 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:56.220 delete a whole file. I could delete everything, the whole 0:07:56.220 --> 0:08:01.050 hard drive, and they would be gone forever. It was 0:08:01.050 --> 0:08:05.400 possible to format that hard drive. Couldn't find anything again. Well, 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.450 that's a picture of what the Messiah Jesus atonement did 0:08:09.450 --> 0:08:12.510 for us. He wiped the hard drive of our guilt 0:08:12.510 --> 0:08:15.540 before God so that our sins would never be held 0:08:15.540 --> 0:08:20.610 against us again. And that's the ultimate and true forgiveness 0:08:20.610 --> 0:08:24.840 that we can now celebrate and proclaim every day, and 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:35.550 especially today, on Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur is a solemn day, 0:08:35.550 --> 0:08:40.770 and normally we wouldn't say Happy Yom Kippur, but if 0:08:40.770 --> 0:08:44.100 we know Messiah Jesus, it's a celebration of atonement, not 0:08:44.100 --> 0:08:47.010 a plea for it. And that's what I would encourage everyone. 0:08:47.370 --> 0:08:54.100 Remember that Trust in Jesus and never, ever fear losing that. 0:08:54.100 --> 0:08:58.360 A relationship with God, the forgiveness that he provides. Well, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.250 we're going to go right to the phones now. Carol 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.670 in Illinois is listening on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line, Carol. 0:09:03.700 --> 0:09:05.110 How can I help you today? 0:09:05.830 --> 0:09:10.000 Oh. Thank you. Good morning. Um, so I told the 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.569 call answerer, I have been a Christian my whole life. 0:09:13.570 --> 0:09:17.770 And then lately, um, it's like it doesn't make sense 0:09:17.770 --> 0:09:20.620 to me. And here's the thought that I came up 0:09:20.620 --> 0:09:25.600 with yesterday. God, if I may be blasphemous, is the problem. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.530 He wanted sin to be accounted for and paid for, 0:09:29.530 --> 0:09:32.950 and he didn't care who did it. I always thought, well, 0:09:32.950 --> 0:09:36.339 how can Jesus die for me? I'm the one being 0:09:36.340 --> 0:09:38.709 the sinner, but it was the wrong way of looking 0:09:38.710 --> 0:09:41.469 at it. It just needed to be taken care of. 0:09:41.470 --> 0:09:44.500 And God found somebody and it was taken care of. 0:09:44.530 --> 0:09:48.939 Is that the right way to understand that I'm. 0:09:49.150 --> 0:09:51.760 I got you right up to God. Found a way. 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.780 Just found Jesus. Like, randomly. Is that what we're talking about? 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.060 Well, he must have had some thought about it and said, 0:10:01.059 --> 0:10:04.690 I will find, I think, to use Bible terms servant, 0:10:04.690 --> 0:10:07.000 and this Messiah is going to do it. And of course, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.540 he had foreknowledge way thousands of years ago. But yeah, 0:10:10.570 --> 0:10:11.230 kind of. 0:10:11.260 --> 0:10:16.210 Yeah. Well, you know, the Bible calls, uh, the Lord Jesus, 0:10:16.210 --> 0:10:19.270 the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:20.470 Mhm. 0:10:20.590 --> 0:10:26.110 Uh, the, uh, Jesus is the God man. He existed 0:10:26.110 --> 0:10:30.459 eternally as God the Son, uh, was incarnate as a 0:10:30.460 --> 0:10:35.110 fully human being. But the intention of God the Father 0:10:35.110 --> 0:10:39.940 was always to offer up his son. Uh, so I 0:10:39.940 --> 0:10:42.100 don't think it was a random selection. Oh, here's a 0:10:42.100 --> 0:10:44.920 good guy. Let's let's let's do this. I think that's 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:51.110 a wrong way of looking at this. Uh, and it says, uh, 0:10:52.340 --> 0:10:54.410 I'm going to read you a verse. It's first Peter 0:10:54.410 --> 0:10:58.969 119 that we were redeemed, not with perishable things like 0:10:58.970 --> 0:11:02.150 silver or gold. Here's verse 19, but with the precious 0:11:02.150 --> 0:11:05.960 blood of Messiah, like that of a lamb without defect 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:11.179 or blemish. He was chosen before the foundation of the world, 0:11:11.179 --> 0:11:16.910 but was revealed at the end of times for you, uh, 0:11:16.910 --> 0:11:20.959 through him are believers in God. So I don't think 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.210 it was just a random selection. I think it was 0:11:23.210 --> 0:11:26.720 an intentional plan of God. We often think of God 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.390 looking down at Adam and Eve in the garden going, 0:11:29.390 --> 0:11:33.290 oh no, what am I going to do? Not the 0:11:33.290 --> 0:11:36.020 way it worked, the way it worked was God the 0:11:36.020 --> 0:11:39.740 father always had a plan. He knew exactly what would happen. 0:11:39.740 --> 0:11:43.099 Did God intend for humanity to sin? I don't believe 0:11:43.100 --> 0:11:46.420 that he gave people a genuine choice, but he knew 0:11:46.750 --> 0:11:50.890 that they were going to choose poorly. Uh, the whole 0:11:50.890 --> 0:11:55.780 plan of God is sovereign. So how do we balance 0:11:55.780 --> 0:11:58.600 the freedom of Adam and Eve in the garden, along 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.330 with the sovereign plan of God? I have no idea. 0:12:01.330 --> 0:12:05.110 But I believe it's both. Both are true. And. And 0:12:05.110 --> 0:12:08.319 God always knew that he would provide atonement through only 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.190 one the God man, the Messiah, the Lord Jesus. It 0:12:12.190 --> 0:12:14.590 was always part of his plan. So no, I don't 0:12:14.590 --> 0:12:17.440 think we should think of it as just sort of 0:12:17.470 --> 0:12:19.870 random selection. Oh, this is a good guy. Let's make 0:12:19.870 --> 0:12:23.110 him the atonement. But rather the only one. He is 0:12:23.110 --> 0:12:25.090 the only one. He's the one that lived the perfect 0:12:25.090 --> 0:12:28.569 life so he could be our righteous, pure and spotless 0:12:28.570 --> 0:12:33.970 lamb for us. Just as Isaiah 53 foretold that all 0:12:33.970 --> 0:12:36.370 we have gone astray, each of us has turned to 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.290 his own way. But the Lord laid on him the 0:12:38.290 --> 0:12:42.460 righteous one, the iniquity of us all. I hope that 0:12:42.460 --> 0:12:44.660 helps a little bit. Carol does it. 0:12:44.809 --> 0:12:45.740 It sure does. 0:12:45.770 --> 0:12:48.020 Oh, good. Good. Well, we're going to we're going to 0:12:48.020 --> 0:12:49.730 take a little break here. I've got a special guest 0:12:49.730 --> 0:12:53.510 coming in in a moment. Uh, so glad you're with 0:12:53.510 --> 0:12:56.510 me this morning. This is open line with Michael Radonich. 0:12:56.510 --> 0:12:58.640 We're going to talk about studying the Bible with Jim 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.790 Coakley in just a moment. So stay with us. This 0:13:01.790 --> 0:13:04.370 is really important program. It'll change your life if you 0:13:04.370 --> 0:13:07.400 start reading the Bible in this very special way. We're 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.709 coming right back at you with our special guest. So 0:13:09.710 --> 0:13:26.270 don't go away. And we're back. Welcome back. I'm so 0:13:26.270 --> 0:13:28.609 glad to talk with you this morning. We're having a 0:13:28.610 --> 0:13:33.590 great time around the world already. You know, the Bible 0:13:33.590 --> 0:13:37.490 is much more than just a collection of ancient texts. 0:13:37.490 --> 0:13:41.959 It's it's God's masterpiece. And it's his gift to us 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.540 and to help us claim it for all it's worth. 0:13:44.570 --> 0:13:48.319 We'd like to send you a resource called 14 Fresh 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.470 Ways to Enjoy the Bible. It's a really helpful book. 0:13:51.500 --> 0:13:54.500 It was written by my friend and moody Professor Jim Coakley, 0:13:54.500 --> 0:13:59.240 and it reveals how the same techniques used by modern 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:04.459 authors were also employed by biblical writers long ago. And 0:14:04.460 --> 0:14:07.730 it gives us a fresh way to look at the scriptures. 0:14:07.820 --> 0:14:11.150 Readers will. If you read this book, it will give 0:14:11.150 --> 0:14:16.130 you practical strategies to engage the word, and it will 0:14:16.130 --> 0:14:19.190 really help you get a fresh way of reading the Bible. 0:14:19.190 --> 0:14:24.440 And it's fairly simple to understand and to read and 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.960 to put into practice. And so I really want to 0:14:26.990 --> 0:14:29.000 encourage you to get this book and it's yours. If 0:14:29.030 --> 0:14:31.460 you give a gift of any size to open line, 0:14:31.460 --> 0:14:32.870 we want to send it to you as a way 0:14:32.870 --> 0:14:36.020 of saying thank you. It's our current resource. So if 0:14:36.050 --> 0:14:39.830 you'd like to get a copy of 14 Fresh Ways 0:14:39.830 --> 0:14:42.979 to Enjoy the Bible. The best thing to do is 0:14:42.980 --> 0:14:51.890 go to our website openline radio.org or call (888) 644-7122. And 0:14:51.890 --> 0:14:54.320 when you give a gift of any size, remember to 0:14:54.350 --> 0:14:57.740 ask for 14 fresh ways to enjoy the Bible. We'd 0:14:57.740 --> 0:15:00.710 love to send you a copy of this book and 0:15:00.710 --> 0:15:04.700 especially fun today for me. Joining me right now is 0:15:04.700 --> 0:15:07.160 the author of that book. As I mentioned, my friend 0:15:07.190 --> 0:15:10.760 Jim Coakley. I've taught here at Moody with Jim for 0:15:10.790 --> 0:15:14.840 seems like forever, 25 years, 25 years. There we go. 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.430 I beat you by about six years. But that's all. 0:15:19.430 --> 0:15:21.830 Right. I'll. I'll bow to superior knowledge. 0:15:21.860 --> 0:15:24.740 Oh, there we go. Anyway, my friend Jim Coakley is 0:15:24.740 --> 0:15:26.570 right here with me. And thank you so much for 0:15:26.570 --> 0:15:29.180 writing this book. And thank you for joining us this morning. Oh, it's. 0:15:29.180 --> 0:15:31.430 Great to be with you, Michael, and the Open Line listeners. 0:15:31.550 --> 0:15:33.380 And it's really I mean, it's really a joy to 0:15:33.410 --> 0:15:36.770 get to promote this book because it really gives people 0:15:36.770 --> 0:15:39.480 a tool to use for Bible reading. And that's what 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.270 really excites me the most is that to, again, not 0:15:42.270 --> 0:15:44.820 just give people a fish, but to teach people how 0:15:44.820 --> 0:15:46.740 to fish. And this book will teach you how to 0:15:46.770 --> 0:15:48.210 fish as you read the Bible. 0:15:48.210 --> 0:15:51.840 So I know you must have heard me tell. I 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.850 tell students all the time. Write down the first law 0:15:53.850 --> 0:15:58.530 of biblical interpretation. It's in order to understand the Bible, 0:15:58.530 --> 0:16:00.990 we must read it. Let's read it. And that's. That's 0:16:00.990 --> 0:16:02.670 what the first law is. The second is, if we 0:16:02.670 --> 0:16:06.450 didn't understand it the first time, read it again. And 0:16:06.660 --> 0:16:09.960 and so that's really what I, I believe. But sometimes 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.260 people just read it sort of carelessly. And I think 0:16:13.260 --> 0:16:16.229 what I noticed about this book is it, it's a 0:16:16.230 --> 0:16:20.640 way of, of teaching people to read the Bible with intentionality. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:21.510 Is that what you're saying? 0:16:21.540 --> 0:16:24.330 Yes. I mean, we talk about the three principles, so 0:16:24.330 --> 0:16:30.000 to speak, of Bible interpretation, observation, interpretation, application. But what 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.710 I have found over the years, and that's why I 0:16:31.710 --> 0:16:34.110 really was motivated to write this book, is that we 0:16:34.110 --> 0:16:37.110 really don't help people with the observation stage. And so 0:16:37.110 --> 0:16:39.430 this book is really geared to say, what should you 0:16:39.430 --> 0:16:42.790 start observing in the text? First, let's start with the 0:16:42.790 --> 0:16:46.300 things that we know the biblical authors are using. And 0:16:46.300 --> 0:16:49.000 then we can go deeper with that. But sometimes people 0:16:49.030 --> 0:16:51.850 are just kind of whiteboarding, looking at the scriptures, and 0:16:51.850 --> 0:16:53.710 they don't know what to look at. But here it 0:16:53.710 --> 0:16:55.990 gives them a lane that they can start to drive 0:16:55.990 --> 0:16:58.690 in and I think get some low hanging fruit right away. 0:16:58.930 --> 0:17:01.570 I know that one of the things that you talk about, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.030 I think it's in chapter 11, you can say that again. 0:17:04.060 --> 0:17:07.780 It's repetition, right? Right. So one of the things I've 0:17:07.780 --> 0:17:13.180 noticed is that people will notice repetitions if they well, 0:17:13.180 --> 0:17:15.490 if they're careful, they'll start reading and say, oh, that 0:17:15.490 --> 0:17:18.340 phrase is used again, or that idea is being repeated or, 0:17:18.369 --> 0:17:22.030 you know, they'll notice that, but they'll never ask the question, 0:17:22.030 --> 0:17:24.610 why is this being repeated? And that's what you would 0:17:24.609 --> 0:17:28.150 encourage them to do, right? Not just to notice the repetition. Right. 0:17:28.150 --> 0:17:30.100 What I basically am trying to train people to do 0:17:30.100 --> 0:17:32.710 is have a series of questions that they always are 0:17:32.740 --> 0:17:35.980 kind of, in a sense, dialoguing with the biblical author. Now, 0:17:35.980 --> 0:17:38.570 of course, we're not going to get clear audible answers back, 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.240 or at least I don't. But these are the types 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.760 of questions. Why is this passage here? Why is this 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.850 phrase or this word repeated so often? Why is this 0:17:46.850 --> 0:17:49.730 next to this other account? Why are we hearing this 0:17:49.730 --> 0:17:52.880 character speak? All those questions are always running through my 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.770 mind now as I'm reading the Bible, and I get 0:17:54.770 --> 0:17:58.550 productive observations as I ask those kind of basic questions. 0:17:58.580 --> 0:18:01.580 Okay, so you have 14 ways to observe the Bible, 0:18:01.580 --> 0:18:04.070 which I think this is just a really terrific tool 0:18:04.070 --> 0:18:07.970 and it's a great way to do it. Okay. Tell me, 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.630 what do you think is the most important of these 0:18:11.630 --> 0:18:13.610 14 or are they all equal? 0:18:13.609 --> 0:18:16.850 Well, it all depends really on really the type of 0:18:16.850 --> 0:18:19.159 literature that you're reading. A lot of these do have 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.820 more incense payback when you look at narrative texts, because 0:18:22.820 --> 0:18:27.710 these are narrative storytelling techniques that are used. But repetition 0:18:27.710 --> 0:18:30.740 is clearly very important because it's used in all genres. 0:18:30.740 --> 0:18:33.500 It's used by all biblical authors. And so that one 0:18:33.500 --> 0:18:36.030 is really high up on. but I mean, for me, 0:18:36.030 --> 0:18:38.040 the one that was probably the one that really kind 0:18:38.070 --> 0:18:41.159 of set me kind of on this trajectory was, in 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.560 a sense, step up to the mic like we're doing here, 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.619 is paying attention to when the biblical author yields the 0:18:46.619 --> 0:18:49.649 microphone over to a character in the story and lets 0:18:49.650 --> 0:18:53.609 us hear that character's own voice. And so, because I 0:18:53.609 --> 0:18:55.770 read the Bible for many, many years, like it was 0:18:55.770 --> 0:18:59.010 all God's Word, everything is inspired. And it is. But 0:18:59.010 --> 0:19:02.550 I never nuance a difference between a narrator who's controlling the, 0:19:02.580 --> 0:19:05.940 so to speak, the script with the allowing the character 0:19:05.940 --> 0:19:08.310 to speak. And oftentimes, as we say, you know, out 0:19:08.310 --> 0:19:10.649 of the mouth comes the issues of the heart. And 0:19:10.650 --> 0:19:14.189 so we get to hear characterization. But oftentimes what we 0:19:14.220 --> 0:19:17.220 find is that the big idea, or the main theme 0:19:17.220 --> 0:19:19.050 of this passage is found on the lips of one 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.930 of the characters. Exactly. That is huge. When you're trying 0:19:21.930 --> 0:19:23.760 to find out what the Bible is trying to teach you. 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.820 If you pay attention to that quotation marks, pay attention 0:19:26.820 --> 0:19:29.100 to quotation marks. Nobody ever taught me that in basic 0:19:29.100 --> 0:19:30.420 Bible interpretation. Yeah. 0:19:30.420 --> 0:19:36.250 So one of my Favorite passages that show this is 0:19:36.250 --> 0:19:40.480 first Samuel 25. Yeah, it's when with David and Abigail 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.169 and Nabal. I don't know if listeners remember that story. 0:19:44.170 --> 0:19:48.670 It's a story about Nabal being selfish and not really 0:19:48.670 --> 0:19:51.340 paying what he ought to have paid David for protection 0:19:51.340 --> 0:19:55.119 and security. And Abigail comes and intervenes, because David wants 0:19:55.119 --> 0:20:03.670 to go kill Nabal for his horrible, foolish attitude. And, uh, 0:20:03.670 --> 0:20:06.909 what you notice is the characters start speaking. The narrator 0:20:06.910 --> 0:20:09.100 doesn't tell us what the message of the story is. Yeah. 0:20:09.100 --> 0:20:13.540 He gives up the microphone and she says, uh, the 0:20:13.540 --> 0:20:19.030 Lord who? Well, she tells him to keep from vengeance. Uh, 0:20:19.060 --> 0:20:24.760 pay no attention to Nabal. She says, uh, I, your servant, 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.100 didn't see my Lord's young men whom you sent. Now, 0:20:27.130 --> 0:20:29.020 my lord, as surely as the Lord lives, and as 0:20:29.020 --> 0:20:31.570 you yourself live, it is the Lord who kept you 0:20:31.570 --> 0:20:35.590 from participating in bloodshed and avenging yourself by your own hand. 0:20:35.590 --> 0:20:38.229 And she goes on to repeat that let there be 0:20:38.230 --> 0:20:41.500 no remorse or troubled conscience for my Lord because of 0:20:41.500 --> 0:20:45.340 needless bloodshed. And then David says to her, today, you 0:20:45.369 --> 0:20:48.880 kept me from participating in bloodshed and avenging myself. Wait, 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.979 what's the point of this passage? Right. 0:20:51.010 --> 0:20:51.760 Avoiding bloodshed. 0:20:51.790 --> 0:20:53.410 Yeah. Avoiding vengeance. Right. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.109 Personal vengeance. That's not the way forward. Yeah. 0:20:56.140 --> 0:20:58.030 And so what I think is so interesting is I 0:20:58.030 --> 0:21:02.409 once heard a world famous preacher preached this passage, and 0:21:02.410 --> 0:21:05.770 he preached about wives submission to their husbands. Yeah. And 0:21:05.770 --> 0:21:08.740 I thought he wasn't listening to the characters. He was 0:21:08.740 --> 0:21:12.129 applying his own, trying to look for an application point. 0:21:12.310 --> 0:21:15.340 And what I think is so interesting about that is 0:21:15.340 --> 0:21:18.760 that you think that we could apply the lesson of not. 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:19.780 Seeking vengeance. 0:21:19.810 --> 0:21:22.570 Seeking vengeance. I mean, I've talked to a lot of 0:21:22.570 --> 0:21:24.490 people when I was a pastor who wanted to get 0:21:24.490 --> 0:21:28.180 back at someone else, a spouse, a neighbor, or, you know, 0:21:28.210 --> 0:21:32.570 and so what I love about your book is. It's 0:21:32.570 --> 0:21:39.200 a little known, but greatly used concept. Yes. Yeah. And so, uh, 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.389 is there a passage that you think of where the, 0:21:41.390 --> 0:21:43.850 the voice of the character comes out? 0:21:43.850 --> 0:21:45.590 You think of, you know, the centurion at the foot 0:21:45.590 --> 0:21:48.350 of the cross? Yeah. You know, the whole gospel writer 0:21:48.350 --> 0:21:51.590 has been talking about the life and ministry and the 0:21:51.590 --> 0:21:53.629 death of Christ, but all of a sudden, you know 0:21:53.660 --> 0:21:56.600 who gets it? Who puts it all together first, a pagan. 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.930 It's a pagan Roman centurion who says, surely this was 0:21:59.930 --> 0:22:01.580 the Son of God. And if we, the readers, are 0:22:01.580 --> 0:22:03.980 reading the gospel correctly, we need to come to that 0:22:03.980 --> 0:22:06.139 same conclusion. That's a great that's a great lesson. 0:22:06.140 --> 0:22:08.060 That's so it's not just Old Testament story, not just 0:22:08.060 --> 0:22:08.480 Old Testament. 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:08.810 It's in the. 0:22:08.810 --> 0:22:12.410 Gospel. So it's a principle of narrative. I think that 0:22:12.410 --> 0:22:16.730 that is vital. So, uh, you know, we're going to 0:22:16.730 --> 0:22:19.460 take some questions and if you're listening, now's the time. 0:22:19.490 --> 0:22:22.400 Give us a call. There's a couple of lines open. 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.310 We're going to take just plain Bible questions. But if 0:22:25.310 --> 0:22:27.470 you have a question particularly about Bible study, you can 0:22:27.470 --> 0:22:34.200 call right now. Our number is (877) 548-3675. Now's a good 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.350 time to call. Okay, so what do you think? If 0:22:37.380 --> 0:22:41.400 you were to give this to someone to help them, 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:44.880 disciple them, mentor them, and reading the Bible, how would 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:45.990 you use this book? 0:22:46.020 --> 0:22:49.290 Boy, I've had two. Within the last two weeks. I've 0:22:49.290 --> 0:22:52.380 had two small groups tell me they're using this very 0:22:52.380 --> 0:22:55.020 profitably in a small group study. To me, that's the 0:22:55.020 --> 0:22:57.930 best way to study in community and kind of share 0:22:57.930 --> 0:23:01.620 your observations. Know these basic techniques, have some of these 0:23:01.619 --> 0:23:04.050 handles like step up to the mic. And all of 0:23:04.050 --> 0:23:06.659 a sudden now there's a church in Virginia and I 0:23:06.660 --> 0:23:10.260 know there's a high school out in the suburbs. Cisco 0:23:10.260 --> 0:23:13.199 told me that the Cisco Cotto. Yeah. Cisco, one of 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.780 our professors, she said that the teachers using it for 0:23:15.780 --> 0:23:18.240 his junior high, high school students to train them how 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:19.650 to study and read the Bible. 0:23:19.650 --> 0:23:22.169 I think that's just wonderful to be in a group 0:23:22.170 --> 0:23:24.840 and practice this. And I think what you could do, 0:23:24.869 --> 0:23:27.600 you know, I know there's some adult Bible fellowships, adult 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.760 Sunday school classes. You could go through one a week 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.369 or home groups. Yes, go through one a week. And 0:23:33.369 --> 0:23:35.709 and you give enough examples from the Bible that you 0:23:35.710 --> 0:23:39.730 could actually study those passages. Right. Where you show where 0:23:39.730 --> 0:23:43.270 the principles are. And I think that that will enhance 0:23:43.300 --> 0:23:46.359 by practicing it with those passages, you'll start to learn 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:47.860 to use it with other passages. 0:23:47.890 --> 0:23:50.740 As this is Pastor's Appreciation Month, this would be a 0:23:50.740 --> 0:23:53.320 great gift to give your pastor, because he might know 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.000 a lot of these techniques, but sometimes you need a 0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:58.240 little spark. I give plenty of examples that will put 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.330 into that will kind of get their juices flowing, so 0:24:01.330 --> 0:24:04.540 you can really equip your pastor stronger by giving him 0:24:04.540 --> 0:24:07.000 this book and letting him know that you appreciate him. 0:24:07.030 --> 0:24:09.700 Yeah, I think that that's a great thing. And also 0:24:09.730 --> 0:24:15.520 Sunday school leaders and, uh, Bible study, uh, facilitators and 0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.320 all the people that are doing this, it's it's a 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:19.600 great tool and that's why we're using it as our 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:21.969 current resource. So, you know, remember give a gift of 0:24:21.970 --> 0:24:25.629 any size. And as a result, if you give a 0:24:25.660 --> 0:24:31.020 gift of any size. Call (888) 644-7122. I shouldn't be doing 0:24:31.020 --> 0:24:33.840 that so much, but I would love people to get 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:35.850 this in their hands. And it's a great way to 0:24:35.850 --> 0:24:38.820 do it by giving a gift to open line. And 0:24:38.820 --> 0:24:42.630 that would be something that's really, really helpful. Uh, now 0:24:43.290 --> 0:24:47.430 I know this won an award and let another man 0:24:47.430 --> 0:24:51.030 praise you, but tell me exactly what award this book won. 0:24:51.060 --> 0:24:54.330 Yeah, Christianity Today this year gave it for 2020 for 0:24:54.330 --> 0:24:56.490 book of the year award in the category of Bible 0:24:56.490 --> 0:24:59.250 and Devotional. I mean, and I was again in, in 0:24:59.250 --> 0:25:02.970 the running with other well-known Christian authors, and it was 0:25:02.970 --> 0:25:06.960 really humbling to realize that they honored me with this reward. 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:11.520 And so it's it's really a special a special benefit 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.139 that I've been able to receive. 0:25:13.170 --> 0:25:16.679 I was thrilled when I heard about that award, because 0:25:17.190 --> 0:25:22.590 so often books that are awarded are, are kind of, uh, very, 0:25:22.590 --> 0:25:26.430 very geared for what's going on in the world right 0:25:26.430 --> 0:25:29.460 now and things like that, and rightly so. Right? But 0:25:29.460 --> 0:25:33.000 the Bible is always relevant, right? And it's always going 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.370 to change our lives. Amen. As we read it. And 0:25:35.369 --> 0:25:37.530 so this is a book that will make us all 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:40.410 better Bible readers, we're going to come right back with 0:25:40.410 --> 0:25:42.960 more of Jim Coakley. We're going to take your questions. 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:46.230 So don't go away. This is open line with my guest, 0:25:46.260 --> 0:25:48.720 Jim Coakley, and me, Michael Radonich. 0:25:48.869 --> 0:25:49.830 Be right back. 0:26:06.150 --> 0:26:09.660 Welcome back to Open Line. My name is Michael Radonich. 0:26:09.660 --> 0:26:12.899 Joining me today, Jim Coakley for this hour. And also 0:26:12.930 --> 0:26:15.690 Tricia McMillan is in here with the mailbag. I am 0:26:15.690 --> 0:26:19.890 so grateful that we get to do, uh, the mailbag, 0:26:19.890 --> 0:26:23.129 because Far Eastern Broadcasting Company partners with Open Line to 0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:27.660 bring you the weekly ABC mailbag. 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She's producing everything, 0:27:09.450 --> 0:27:12.060 it seems like, at Moody Radio and Jim Coakley, my 0:27:12.060 --> 0:27:16.290 colleague in the classroom, I love the teamwork that comes 0:27:16.290 --> 0:27:20.250 with Moody Radio and Moody Bible Institute. And I appreciate that. 0:27:20.250 --> 0:27:25.540 There are team members, People who actually listen to Open 0:27:25.540 --> 0:27:29.020 Line every week and feel like it's helping them take 0:27:29.020 --> 0:27:31.630 their next step in their walk with the Lord Jesus. 0:27:31.630 --> 0:27:36.010 I'm so grateful for that. And then also, I'm so 0:27:36.010 --> 0:27:39.790 grateful that there are people who listen regularly, who think 0:27:39.790 --> 0:27:41.560 that they want to be part of the team, and 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:46.300 an even more expansive way by becoming kitchen table partners. 0:27:46.330 --> 0:27:49.570 What they do is they give monthly so that we 0:27:49.570 --> 0:27:52.690 can be on the air weekly. We so appreciate that. 0:27:52.690 --> 0:27:57.040 And the best way to become a kitchen table partner 0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:01.510 is by going either to our our website, open Line 0:28:01.510 --> 0:28:08.889 radio.org or calling (888) 644-7122. And one of the things that 0:28:08.890 --> 0:28:13.179 we do, Tricia, is we produce the Bible study moment 0:28:13.180 --> 0:28:16.360 and we're finishing up one right now. It's a it's 0:28:16.390 --> 0:28:20.860 a little Bible study designed exclusively for our kitchen table partners. 0:28:20.859 --> 0:28:22.790 They listen to it. What's it about now that we're 0:28:22.790 --> 0:28:23.630 just finishing a series. 0:28:23.630 --> 0:28:26.450 That we're finishing up? We're on the the last one. 0:28:26.450 --> 0:28:29.540 We'll go out, I think, next week about the covenants, 0:28:29.540 --> 0:28:33.290 the five biblical covenants and what they are and then 0:28:33.290 --> 0:28:34.640 how they're fulfilled. 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:36.770 Yeah, it was a lot of fun to do, wasn't it? 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.110 Yeah we did. We recorded them all in the. The 0:28:39.110 --> 0:28:40.550 last one goes out next week. Yeah. 0:28:40.580 --> 0:28:42.110 I'm so I'm so glad for that. And we're going 0:28:42.140 --> 0:28:44.030 to start a new series that you don't even know 0:28:44.030 --> 0:28:45.890 what it is about it, but I do. I've already 0:28:45.890 --> 0:28:47.479 picked it out. And because you. 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.220 Write these, these aren't you know, we don't have these 0:28:49.220 --> 0:28:50.540 other writers doing this and. 0:28:50.540 --> 0:28:53.060 Sometimes even joins me. We talk through them like we 0:28:53.060 --> 0:28:55.490 did with the covenants. So I've got I can't wait 0:28:55.490 --> 0:28:56.780 to tell you about it, but I'm not going to 0:28:56.780 --> 0:28:57.770 say what it is now. 0:28:57.770 --> 0:28:59.660 But that's called a tease. Yeah. 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.390 But anyway, again, if you'd like to become a kitchen 0:29:02.390 --> 0:29:05.570 table partner, we'd so appreciate you considering doing that. Uh, 0:29:05.570 --> 0:29:12.980 the number again. (888) 644-7122 or go to open line radio.org. Okay, Tricia, 0:29:13.010 --> 0:29:14.660 you've got some mailbag questions. 0:29:14.690 --> 0:29:18.170 I do. Lori in Florida listens to R&B and says 0:29:18.170 --> 0:29:20.250 a friend of a different faith is wanting to read 0:29:20.250 --> 0:29:23.520 and study the Bible. What is a good study Bible 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.370 to help someone read for themselves for the first time? 0:29:26.370 --> 0:29:28.950 She says, I have several study Bibles, but I'm not 0:29:28.950 --> 0:29:31.380 sure how easily understood the notes are for folks stepping 0:29:31.380 --> 0:29:33.570 through it on their own for the first time. 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.300 Okay, so let's start with my guest, Jim Coakley. Jim. 0:29:36.300 --> 0:29:39.090 Yeah, there's a number of study Bibles, as you mentioned, Lori. 0:29:39.090 --> 0:29:41.040 And so, you know, which one is there? You kind 0:29:41.070 --> 0:29:44.130 of have to know who you're talking to or about 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.950 in terms of what level that they're at. But there's 0:29:46.950 --> 0:29:49.260 some really good basic ones. I mean, the Ryrie Study 0:29:49.260 --> 0:29:53.190 Bible has been around. Moody publishers has produced that. It's 0:29:53.190 --> 0:29:56.790 a good all around kind of basically answer the typical 0:29:56.790 --> 0:30:01.740 questions that readers have. It's fairly accessible, not too overly complicated, 0:30:01.830 --> 0:30:04.230 and it's a good all around study Bible that I 0:30:04.230 --> 0:30:05.580 would really recommend. One of my. 0:30:05.580 --> 0:30:08.640 Favorite things about the Ryrie Bible is that you can 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.640 carry it. It's not so big. Yeah. And then the 0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:16.440 other thing about it is, uh, that he's got this 0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:20.200 survey of doctrine and outline form in the back, and 0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.320 he's got an outline of church history and all the 0:30:23.350 --> 0:30:25.060 he's got a section on how he got the Bible. 0:30:25.060 --> 0:30:29.380 So some of the appendices, I think are tremendously helpful. 0:30:29.410 --> 0:30:29.740 It's like a. 0:30:29.740 --> 0:30:31.000 Mini Bible college education. 0:30:31.030 --> 0:30:33.729 Yeah, right. It's great. And, you know, of course, he 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.540 he was my professor at Dallas Seminary when he would 0:30:37.540 --> 0:30:40.000 sometimes say, okay, I'll give you the exam early, but 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.670 you have to promise on a Bible that you're going 0:30:42.670 --> 0:30:44.920 to come to class for the last few weeks if 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:45.730 I give you a promise. 0:30:45.730 --> 0:30:46.390 On a Bible. 0:30:46.420 --> 0:30:48.760 Yeah. And so he'd have to take out our Bible. 0:30:49.030 --> 0:30:50.260 Yeah. And, you know. 0:30:50.260 --> 0:30:52.060 He said, get out your Bible. Then he'd say you 0:30:52.060 --> 0:30:56.170 need a proper Bible. Joking with us a revival. It 0:30:56.170 --> 0:30:59.350 was pretty fun. And Jim's copy of the Ryrie Bible 0:30:59.350 --> 0:31:02.590 is signed, but mine was not, because, you know, it 0:31:02.590 --> 0:31:04.210 was so normal for me to see him in class. 0:31:04.210 --> 0:31:05.830 I didn't think to get it signed. Yeah. 0:31:06.010 --> 0:31:09.430 So he spoke at my baccalaureate for graduation from Calvary 0:31:09.430 --> 0:31:10.210 Bible College. 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.520 Yeah. So there you should have should have gotten it. 0:31:12.730 --> 0:31:15.190 Let me just mention a couple of others. There's the 0:31:15.190 --> 0:31:18.920 ESV study Bible. Very good study Bible. The problem with 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:20.960 it is it's so big you have to have it 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.660 on your desk at home, not carry it around with you. 0:31:23.660 --> 0:31:26.840 It's just way too big. The NIV Study Bible same issue. 0:31:26.870 --> 0:31:28.610 You can get it to carry around, but the print 0:31:28.610 --> 0:31:30.470 is so small to get it to be the size 0:31:30.470 --> 0:31:33.530 that you can carry. I can't even read it anymore. 0:31:33.530 --> 0:31:38.420 And then the Holman Study Bible also. I contributed to that. 0:31:38.420 --> 0:31:43.550 Daniel notes on that. It's a really good study Bible. Um, 0:31:43.790 --> 0:31:47.060 but I would say the problem is what I like 0:31:47.090 --> 0:31:50.300 about Ryrie is that it was just done by one person, 0:31:50.300 --> 0:31:54.620 so it's consistent. Uh, the Holman Study Bible was edited 0:31:54.620 --> 0:31:57.680 by a couple of people to try and make it consistent. 0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.010 But some of the books, there's one whole book that 0:32:01.010 --> 0:32:04.400 I think is extremely messianic in the Old Testament, and 0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.360 the author didn't cite one messianic prophecy. Yeah. And so 0:32:08.390 --> 0:32:11.690 it has an inconsistency, but generally very good. 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.050 Okay. So a quick clarification. The study Bible. So you're 0:32:15.050 --> 0:32:20.090 talking about the Ryrie Study Bible? He did not, um, 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:25.850 translate the Bible? No. Right. So so there's two different 0:32:25.850 --> 0:32:28.580 questions then that that she will need to find the 0:32:28.580 --> 0:32:31.940 Bible for. There's the translation. So that's the ESV or 0:32:31.940 --> 0:32:36.590 the Holman Christian Standard Bible or the the I guess 0:32:36.590 --> 0:32:39.170 Ryrie comes in a couple of different translations, I think. 0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.930 I think it's the American standard, American King James. Yes. 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:43.910 And there's an and it was. 0:32:43.910 --> 0:32:45.890 Done based on the new American standard. 0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.400 Okay. How does that how does how does that change it? Like, 0:32:49.430 --> 0:32:51.979 like if I pick up an NIV study Bible versus 0:32:51.980 --> 0:32:55.610 the versus the Ryrie NASB study Bible that you're holding, 0:32:55.820 --> 0:33:00.350 what's what, what will be? Well, are the scriptures different? 0:33:00.380 --> 0:33:01.070 No, the. 0:33:01.070 --> 0:33:01.640 The. 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.980 The text of the Bible is different, but because that's the. 0:33:03.980 --> 0:33:04.760 Translation, if. 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:06.560 You have an ESV rivalry, which I don't even know 0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.680 if they make anymore, but there was an ESV Ryrie uh, 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.190 if there was a different translation and he's noting a word, 0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.500 it'll say the word in the ESV. They edited it 0:33:16.500 --> 0:33:18.330 to do that, and then it'll say in the new 0:33:18.330 --> 0:33:22.530 American Standard it was, and then it will discuss it 0:33:22.530 --> 0:33:24.630 that way. Okay. So and the same thing with the 0:33:24.630 --> 0:33:27.840 old NIV Bible, which I don't know. I don't know 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.900 what which they keep changing the translations based on what's 0:33:30.900 --> 0:33:33.000 the popular translation right now. Right. 0:33:33.030 --> 0:33:35.220 But what they're doing is taking if I take a 0:33:35.250 --> 0:33:39.390 non study Bible and just hold it an ESV Bible 0:33:39.660 --> 0:33:42.780 and I pick up an ESV study Bible. The only 0:33:42.780 --> 0:33:46.320 difference is the notes that have been added that kind 0:33:46.350 --> 0:33:48.390 of help shed the light on this is the word 0:33:48.390 --> 0:33:51.000 that they translated, or this is some background to this 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:52.170 book or verse. 0:33:52.350 --> 0:33:55.410 Kind of thing. There's an intro to the book. There's 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:59.490 a annotations or explanations at the bottom of the page. 0:33:59.490 --> 0:34:02.430 Those are the notes. And then at the back, uh, 0:34:02.430 --> 0:34:07.650 there's usually some appendices of like in the Rye, Rye. 0:34:07.650 --> 0:34:10.950 I mentioned the Survey of Doctrine and different things like that. 0:34:10.980 --> 0:34:14.410 I think I think they're a great tool and and 0:34:14.410 --> 0:34:18.129 they don't necessarily have to be what you carry around 0:34:18.130 --> 0:34:20.589 with you. They're like a good resource, like the Moody 0:34:20.590 --> 0:34:23.380 Bible Commentary, which you would keep on your desk and 0:34:23.380 --> 0:34:27.520 turn to. But one of the things that I this 0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.700 is okay, now, this is going to sound weird. I 0:34:30.700 --> 0:34:34.420 encourage people to use it as a resource, but not 0:34:34.420 --> 0:34:37.810 as their regular, not their Bible. Yeah. Or what they 0:34:37.810 --> 0:34:40.750 read every morning. Right. Why would why would I say that? 0:34:40.780 --> 0:34:43.629 Because there's a difference between just reading for kind of 0:34:43.660 --> 0:34:46.330 allowing the Word of God to wash over you versus 0:34:46.330 --> 0:34:48.489 then going down deep into study. And we need both 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.640 kind of readings. Mhm. And that's also true regarding the 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:56.020 translation depending on their kind of ability in English, like 0:34:56.020 --> 0:34:58.720 people who will come from overseas or English as their 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.660 second or third language, like the NIV is written to 0:35:01.690 --> 0:35:04.390 an eighth grade level. And New American standard I think 0:35:04.390 --> 0:35:06.670 is written to like an 11th grade level. So again, 0:35:06.670 --> 0:35:10.420 depending on their English skills, that might be a factor 0:35:10.420 --> 0:35:12.589 as well in which study Bible you use. Okay. 0:35:12.620 --> 0:35:13.340 Yeah. Okay. 0:35:13.370 --> 0:35:17.120 So that's it. And so I really want people not. 0:35:17.150 --> 0:35:19.640 I found myself when I first got a study Bible. 0:35:19.670 --> 0:35:21.529 The very first one I ever had is I found 0:35:21.530 --> 0:35:25.010 myself reading the notes, not the word. Yes. And I 0:35:25.010 --> 0:35:28.040 realized I've got to get a Bible without notes and 0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:31.190 read that. And then what happens is, as I find 0:35:31.219 --> 0:35:34.160 I have questions, then I might grab a study Bible. 0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.469 And that's where I would begin, by looking at the 0:35:36.500 --> 0:35:39.590 annotation to see what did Doctor Ryrie have to say 0:35:39.590 --> 0:35:42.980 about this, or what did the, uh, back in the 0:35:42.980 --> 0:35:47.569 day it was what did, uh, psi psi psi psi. Scofield. 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.419 That was my first study Bible, actually. Me, too. That 0:35:50.420 --> 0:35:52.820 was the only one that was around for ages. 0:35:52.850 --> 0:35:54.320 Now, I gotta say this. People are going to be 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:57.830 shocked about this. They have a new American standard. Scofield. 0:35:57.830 --> 0:36:00.200 It was done for the King James, right? And my 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:01.670 wife picked it up and she said, you know, this 0:36:01.670 --> 0:36:04.399 is a pretty good study Bible. So I found that 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.940 interesting that the old Scofield Study Bible is still pretty good. 0:36:07.969 --> 0:36:10.500 Except that in the book of Ecclesiastes is an agreement 0:36:10.530 --> 0:36:14.790 that he said that these are the words of a man? Uh, what? Basically, 0:36:14.790 --> 0:36:18.540 it was like these are the inspired record of man's words. Huh. 0:36:19.110 --> 0:36:19.860 So he doesn't agree. 0:36:19.860 --> 0:36:23.850 With he doesn't believe that there's challenges, of course, with Ecclesiastes. 0:36:23.910 --> 0:36:24.150 Now what? 0:36:24.150 --> 0:36:26.730 The Ecclesiastes tough book. But in the end, what the 0:36:26.730 --> 0:36:30.060 whole thing is, it's I think there's I understand Ecclesiastes 0:36:30.210 --> 0:36:33.630 not to scare people, but it's Solomon evaluating all the 0:36:33.630 --> 0:36:36.299 different philosophies of life and finding them faulty. And at 0:36:36.300 --> 0:36:38.340 the end he says, here's what it comes down to 0:36:38.370 --> 0:36:39.150 fear God. 0:36:39.150 --> 0:36:40.020 Keep his commandments. 0:36:40.020 --> 0:36:42.900 That's right. That's it. So anyway, well, we're going to 0:36:42.900 --> 0:36:44.400 take a break here. Yes we are. That was a 0:36:44.430 --> 0:36:45.930 long discussion, but it was really helpful. 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:46.800 It was, it was. 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.810 So when we come back, we're going to take some 0:36:48.810 --> 0:36:51.780 of your Bible questions with my guest, Jim Coakley. He's 0:36:51.780 --> 0:36:54.690 not just my guest. He's my good friend. Really appreciate him. 0:36:54.690 --> 0:36:58.770 He's a great expert on Bible lands and all sorts 0:36:58.770 --> 0:37:02.040 of things like that. Uh, and Bible reading. Thanks, Tricia, 0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.350 for bringing the questions in. We'll be right back with 0:37:04.350 --> 0:37:19.960 more of your questions right here on Open Line. Welcome 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.690 back to Open Line. Let me tell you about the 0:37:22.690 --> 0:37:27.820 current Chosen People resource. Many think of the Torah. What's 0:37:27.820 --> 0:37:31.720 the Torah? It's the five books of Moses. 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When you 0:38:38.180 --> 0:38:39.800 click on that, it will take you to a page 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.839 where you can sign up for your own free copy 0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:45.440 of the portion. And we're going to take a couple 0:38:45.469 --> 0:38:49.160 of calls. Is that okay, Jim? Sounds good. Yeah, I'm 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.560 here with Jim Coakley, my friend and colleague here at 0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:54.260 Moody Bible Institute, and we're going to talk to Shirley 0:38:54.260 --> 0:38:58.610 in Florida listening on WGN. Welcome to Open Line, Shirley. 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.020 How can we help you today? 0:39:00.950 --> 0:39:05.719 Hi. Good morning. Um, I have a question about, um, 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.740 the Garden of Eden. And I was wondering about the 0:39:09.739 --> 0:39:13.520 snake is in the Bible. Do they say that the 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.450 snake is just representative of the devil? Devil? Or was 0:39:17.450 --> 0:39:20.840 it actually a snake that talked? And if it was 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:24.800 a snake that talked? Um. I'm wondering, was all the 0:39:24.830 --> 0:39:28.130 animals talking or why didn't they get freaked out about 0:39:28.130 --> 0:39:31.160 a snake talking and run? Yeah. 0:39:31.190 --> 0:39:32.660 Well, yeah. 0:39:32.690 --> 0:39:33.980 I mean, I think a couple of things we can 0:39:33.980 --> 0:39:37.220 say kind of to get the conversation started. One, this 0:39:37.219 --> 0:39:39.680 is so early on that they probably wouldn't know the 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.430 difference between talking and non talking animals right from the start. 0:39:43.610 --> 0:39:46.040 But you're right, I think it would be strange to 0:39:46.070 --> 0:39:49.130 have them hear an animal speak. Now we do have other. 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.190 Although they may have been shocked. Yeah, but the Bible 0:39:52.190 --> 0:39:52.640 doesn't say. 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:54.620 The Bible doesn't say. Yeah, but we do have other 0:39:54.620 --> 0:39:57.950 talking animals. We have balaam's donkey that talks. And so 0:39:57.950 --> 0:40:01.700 that's a shocking word that did not surprise Balaam. Yeah. 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:03.259 It's like this is of course, he may. 0:40:03.260 --> 0:40:04.010 Have been surprised. 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.210 He may have been surprised, but he blew right past it. 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.760 Yeah, the Bible doesn't address it. You know, whether they're 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.370 surprised or not. And that's really an important thing. Sometimes 0:40:11.370 --> 0:40:14.730 we we think, oh, this is what should be included. 0:40:14.730 --> 0:40:16.890 But the author thought, nah, that's not important. He's going 0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:20.820 to just put in what is important. So but now 0:40:20.850 --> 0:40:23.400 I happen to think it was a snake that talked. 0:40:23.430 --> 0:40:24.870 Yes, I agree with you. 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.739 And and the thing is, when you look at Balaam's donkey, 0:40:29.430 --> 0:40:33.689 it was supernatural power. God opened the mouth right of 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:37.529 that animal. Uh, it wasn't Narnia. It was. And the 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:39.780 same thing in the Garden of Eden. It was a 0:40:39.780 --> 0:40:44.460 supernatural power that opened the mouth of that snake. And 0:40:44.460 --> 0:40:46.890 what makes us know that it's not God? 0:40:47.580 --> 0:40:52.590 Well, you think of the telling people to disobey the commandments. 0:40:52.590 --> 0:40:55.109 And that's where I go back to. And since my 0:40:55.140 --> 0:40:58.230 one of the techniques in my book is first impressions. Yeah. 0:40:58.380 --> 0:41:01.440 So we think of again the serpent, the snake in 0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:04.629 the garden. First thing we see him doing is, of course, 0:41:04.630 --> 0:41:09.160 he's using cunning words. Lying. Uh, and so one of 0:41:09.190 --> 0:41:11.469 the things that we see about, again, the first impression. 0:41:11.500 --> 0:41:14.859 A very, very common technique is that even the New 0:41:14.860 --> 0:41:17.500 Testament writers say that Satan is the father of lies, 0:41:17.650 --> 0:41:19.450 and we see that right from the beginning. So, again, 0:41:19.450 --> 0:41:22.359 from a literary standpoint, the focus is not so much 0:41:22.390 --> 0:41:25.629 on why did this animal speak, but in what he says, 0:41:25.660 --> 0:41:28.450 and basically get the Adam and Eve to disobey. But 0:41:28.450 --> 0:41:32.110 we see that Satan's main, not his only tool that 0:41:32.110 --> 0:41:34.509 he has, is to get people to believe lies. 0:41:34.780 --> 0:41:37.840 And and one of the things that that he does 0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:41.770 there is he gets them to believe a lie. He 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:45.069 he takes over the power of the serpent's speech and 0:41:45.070 --> 0:41:47.469 is able to talk about it. And there's a lot 0:41:47.469 --> 0:41:49.509 more to be said about that. But here's the thing 0:41:49.540 --> 0:41:52.270 to remember in Isaiah 14. Now, I don't know where 0:41:52.300 --> 0:41:54.520 Jim is lands on this, but I happen to believe 0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.370 when there's a judgment on the king of Babylon, and 0:41:57.370 --> 0:42:00.819 then it talks about the power behind the king of Babylon, 0:42:00.820 --> 0:42:04.610 and it's clearly Satan. So you have that in Isaiah 14. 0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:07.969 The five I wills there. About him standing against God 0:42:07.969 --> 0:42:12.080 and us, you know, sending higher and then in. Ezekiel 28, 0:42:12.110 --> 0:42:14.720 there's a judgment of the king of tyre, and then 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.479 it starts talking about, you were in Eden. You were 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:21.440 an anointed cherub, a kind of angel. Obviously the king 0:42:21.469 --> 0:42:24.830 of Tyre wasn't. And it's talking about the power behind 0:42:24.830 --> 0:42:25.700 the king of tyre. 0:42:25.820 --> 0:42:28.280 And it's that seed of the woman, seed of the serpent. 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.710 And we see that beginning battle right in the garden 0:42:30.739 --> 0:42:34.009 and continuing into Ezekiel and to even in the Book 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.560 of Revelation. So and it's part of that stream. 0:42:36.590 --> 0:42:40.190 Yeah. And so what I think is happening is that there's. Yeah, 0:42:40.219 --> 0:42:43.040 serpent for sure, but he's been taken over by the enemy, 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.820 and the enemy is is controlling its speech. So in 0:42:46.820 --> 0:42:49.130 verse 14, you've sort of got a judgment of the 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.759 animal to be a perpetual symbol of defeat. It says 0:42:52.820 --> 0:42:58.820 in Isaiah uh, 63, I think it is, or 64 0:42:58.850 --> 0:43:03.029 it talks about how the animals will no longer in 0:43:03.030 --> 0:43:06.960 the kingdom when the Messiah is reigning. The lions going 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.290 to no longer be a predatory animal, and the wolf 0:43:10.290 --> 0:43:13.109 won't be predatory. They'll lie down with the lamb and 0:43:13.110 --> 0:43:16.830 all this, but the serpent will still eat dust, so 0:43:16.860 --> 0:43:22.470 a perpetual symbol of defeat. And then, of course, what 0:43:22.469 --> 0:43:28.830 comes is the next. The next verse. Verse 15. The ultimate, 0:43:28.830 --> 0:43:34.439 eternal defeat of of the enemy, that his head will 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.900 be crushed by the Messiah. I think also. 0:43:36.900 --> 0:43:39.270 Too, the imagery, the metaphor of a snake. Again, just 0:43:39.270 --> 0:43:41.490 think from the ancient standpoint that snake comes out of 0:43:41.489 --> 0:43:43.440 the ground. They have, you know, typically they come out 0:43:43.469 --> 0:43:46.230 of holes. And so anything that kind of deals with 0:43:46.230 --> 0:43:50.580 two realms is kind of that, what's the engaging power 0:43:50.580 --> 0:43:53.160 that's happening? And so it's coming from below, so to speak. 0:43:53.250 --> 0:43:56.730 And yet it operates above. And so there's that kind 0:43:56.730 --> 0:43:58.350 of I think that's one of the reasons why the 0:43:58.350 --> 0:44:00.569 snake was the selected animal? 0:44:00.870 --> 0:44:03.060 Yeah, I think so. I think so. Does that help 0:44:03.060 --> 0:44:03.990 at all, Shirley? 0:44:05.250 --> 0:44:07.950 Yeah, that's really good. And I was thinking too, as 0:44:07.950 --> 0:44:11.730 you were saying, there were so intrigued with the snake talking, 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.520 and that's why they were paying attention to it. Yeah. 0:44:14.550 --> 0:44:17.160 And, you know, they should have just said, get thee 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:21.060 behind me, snake. But they didn't. So anyway. Hey, thanks. 0:44:21.060 --> 0:44:22.350 Thanks so much for your call. 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:24.090 Blessings to all of our Florida listeners. 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:28.380 Yeah. That's right. And we're going to talk to Steven 0:44:28.380 --> 0:44:32.010 in Michigan listening to Wndb. Welcome to Open Line, Steven. 0:44:33.090 --> 0:44:33.870 Hello. 0:44:34.410 --> 0:44:37.740 Well, hello, Steven. How old are you? 0:44:38.489 --> 0:44:39.209 Seven. 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:43.590 You're seven years old. And what grade are you in? 0:44:44.850 --> 0:44:45.420 Second. 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.549 You're in second grade. And do you know how to 0:44:47.550 --> 0:44:48.540 read yet? 0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:50.879 Yeah. 0:44:51.060 --> 0:44:53.399 You can read a little or a lot. 0:44:55.350 --> 0:44:55.980 A lot. 0:44:56.010 --> 0:44:58.780 Good. Do you like reading the Bible? 0:44:59.230 --> 0:44:59.620 Yeah. 0:44:59.650 --> 0:45:01.630 Okay, listen, you know, we're running out of time, so 0:45:01.630 --> 0:45:03.100 go ahead with your question. 0:45:03.100 --> 0:45:08.739 And, uh, if if Adam and Eve were perfect and 0:45:08.739 --> 0:45:11.890 God and God said they were perfect, and God doesn't lie, 0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:13.180 how did they sin? 0:45:13.210 --> 0:45:16.990 Well, let me just say quickly they weren't perfect. They 0:45:16.989 --> 0:45:22.780 had untested holiness, you might say. They were. They were 0:45:22.780 --> 0:45:27.069 not perfect in the sense. Perfection only comes when tested 0:45:27.070 --> 0:45:31.480 and they pass the test, but they it's sort of like, uh, 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:35.230 when you're in school, uh, you may think I'm perfect, 0:45:35.230 --> 0:45:37.930 but you have to take the test first before you 0:45:37.930 --> 0:45:43.120 actually achieve the perfect score. Right. And so they were 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:47.230 just untested. They hadn't sinned. They hadn't obeyed yet. They 0:45:47.230 --> 0:45:51.069 were just untested. And when the test came, they failed. 0:45:51.070 --> 0:45:53.620 But they weren't called perfect until later. 0:45:53.620 --> 0:45:57.770 And they had the capacity to choose. right. And yet 0:45:57.770 --> 0:46:00.920 they also had the capacity to choose wrong. And sadly, 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:02.239 they chose the wrong path. 0:46:02.270 --> 0:46:05.360 Yeah, yeah. I hope that helps. Steven, thanks so much 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:09.350 for calling. Thanks for listening, everyone. 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