WEBVTT - Tearing Down the Walls– Part 1

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<v S1>Today on Bold Steps, Mark Jobe shows us how to

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<v S1>tear down the walls that separate us from God.

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<v S2>One of the purposes in which Jesus came to fulfill

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<v S2>the mission of His father was the purpose of tearing

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<v S2>down walls. Jesus is a wall breaker, and if we

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<v S2>are to be the people of God, we also need

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<v S2>to learn what it means to tear down walls.

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<v S1>Welcome to Bold Steps with Mark Jobe. Mark is president

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<v S1>of Moody Bible Institute and the senior pastor of New

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<v S1>Life Community Church in Chicago. I'm Wayne Shepherd. Have you

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<v S1>ever felt like an outsider? Maybe you moved to a

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<v S1>new neighborhood or started a new job. Maybe you're starting

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<v S1>a new school. You may feel like you're on one

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<v S1>side of a wall and everyone else is on the other. Mark,

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<v S1>let's talk about that here today.

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<v S2>Yeah, Wayne, there are walls that separate a lot of

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<v S2>people in different ways. One of the most obvious wall

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<v S2>is the one that separates man from God. And that

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<v S2>has to come down first. But when that wall comes down,

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<v S2>it actually leads to the tearing down of a lot

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<v S2>of other walls around us Jew, Gentile, slave, free men, women,

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<v S2>black and white, Hispanic, Asian God is a wall breaker.

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<v S1>Well, let's see what the Scripture says about this in

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<v S1>Ephesians chapter two with Mark. Now our message tearing down walls.

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<v S1>Here's Mark job with bold steps.

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<v S2>One of the tools used to tear down walls. It's

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<v S2>called a sledgehammer. You know, walls are interesting, aren't they?

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<v S2>We build walls normally for protection. We build walls because

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<v S2>we want something kept out, and we build doors because

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<v S2>we will. We want to allow something to come in.

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<v S2>There's famous walls like East Germany from West Germany was

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<v S2>divided by the Berlin Wall. One of the most famous

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<v S2>walls was the. Or is the wall in China, the

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<v S2>Great Wall of China? A year and a half ago,

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<v S2>I was able to go to China for some studies

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<v S2>that I was doing, and I actually was able to

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<v S2>walk on the Great Wall of China. The Great Wall

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<v S2>of China took 200 years to build. Hundreds of thousands

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<v S2>of people worked on that great wall made out of

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<v S2>mud and mud bricks. The wall of China is 6700

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<v S2>miles long. And if you look at the terrain that

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<v S2>it was built on. It's just incredible that without tools

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<v S2>that we have in our modern day world, that they

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<v S2>were able to create this incredible wall going up and

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<v S2>down mountains that would span such a large a large cycle.

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<v S2>In fact, it's the only man made edifice that is

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<v S2>able to be seen from outer space with the naked eye.

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<v S2>You know why the Emperor of China built the wall

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<v S2>of China protection. He believed that there was going to

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<v S2>be invasion from Genghis Khan, and that he needed to

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<v S2>protect themselves from outside forces. And so he created this

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<v S2>wall for protection. You and I have walls. Oh, they're

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<v S2>not physical walls with bricks. But everybody has walls. Invisible walls.

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<v S2>We put up walls towards people in our life that

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<v S2>have hurt us, towards that family member that you just

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<v S2>kind of can't stand. And so at a family gathering,

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<v S2>you got that wall up. Oh yeah, you'll say hi,

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<v S2>but you know, that wall is up. Hey, don't get

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<v S2>too close because I know what happened last time. You

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<v S2>get close. There's walls sometimes in marriages. I just prayed

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<v S2>with a couple at our last service that is tearing

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<v S2>down walls. Even in their own marriage. There's walls that

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<v S2>we have in our life. Sometimes just. We put a

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<v S2>barrier of walls around us because some people walk with

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<v S2>a wall around them, thinking that if people really got

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<v S2>to know you, they wouldn't like you. And so although

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<v S2>you meet a lot of people, you keep people at

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<v S2>a distance, never let anybody get too close because you

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<v S2>feel if they really know the real me, they'll reject me.

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<v S2>There's walls all around this place. The city of Chicago

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<v S2>is known for some of its invisible walls. When I

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<v S2>first came to Chicago, to the southwest side. People showed

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<v S2>me a neighborhood and they said, you see this viaduct

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<v S2>on this side of the viaduct? It's all white on

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<v S2>that side of the viaduct. It's all black now. There's

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<v S2>no sign that says whites only, no sign that says

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<v S2>blacks only. But there's like this invisible wall. People know

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<v S2>you don't live in that neighborhood and you don't live

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<v S2>in that neighborhood. If you're this color, you don't live

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<v S2>over here, that color. You don't live over there. It's

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<v S2>an invisible wall of racial divide, but it's a wall nonetheless.

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<v S2>The thing about Jesus is that one of the purposes

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<v S2>in which Jesus Came to fulfill the mission of his

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<v S2>father was the purpose of tearing down walls. Jesus is

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<v S2>a wall breaker, and if we are to be the

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<v S2>people of God, we also need to learn what it

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<v S2>means to tear down walls. That's what Ephesians chapter two

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<v S2>is all about. It's really about tearing down walls. And

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<v S2>I'm going to begin reading in verse 11 of Ephesians

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<v S2>chapter two, as the apostle Paul talks to these folks

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<v S2>about the walls that need to be torn down. If

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<v S2>you're taking notes this morning, just write this down. Breaking

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<v S2>down walls. What do you need to know about breaking

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<v S2>down spiritual walls? The first thing you need to know

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<v S2>is that the wall is a part of everybody's story

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<v S2>at one time or another. Notice what Paul says. Therefore,

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<v S2>remember that formerly you who are Gentiles, you know what

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<v S2>a Gentile is? A Gentile is a non-Jewish person. So

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<v S2>you who were Gentiles, a non-Jewish person by birth, you

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<v S2>were called uncircumcised by those who called themselves the circumcision.

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<v S2>Remember that at a time you were separate from Christ,

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<v S2>excluded from the citizenship in Israel, foreigners to the covenant

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<v S2>of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. Well,

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<v S2>the Apostle Paul wants to remind these believers that he's

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<v S2>talking to. He wants to remind them that at one

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<v S2>time they were on listen, they were on the other

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<v S2>side of the wall. All of us at one time

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<v S2>have been outsiders. How about it? You say? Well, not me, pastor.

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<v S2>And I'm like the ultimate popular insider. No no no no.

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<v S2>You've been an outsider, too. Everybody's been an outsider at

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<v S2>one time or another. Hey, when you transferred to the

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<v S2>school in the middle of the school year, class had

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<v S2>already started. Everybody knew where they were seated immediately at

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<v S2>a lunch table. The clans and cliques all sat together.

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<v S2>But there you were with your lunch tray. The new kid,

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<v S2>the outsider wondering, should I sit at that table or

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<v S2>that table? Will they accept me? Where do I belong

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<v S2>and where do I fit in? Anybody know what I'm

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<v S2>talking about? The outsider. Maybe you were new at that

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<v S2>job and just hired. And when you got to that

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<v S2>floor and all your coworkers were there, you knew you

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<v S2>were the outsider. You knew that everybody had their friends

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<v S2>and talked a certain language, and they knew the system.

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<v S2>But you didn't know the system because you're what? You're

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<v S2>the outsider. Or maybe you moved into that neighborhood and

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<v S2>And everybody seems to have lived in that neighborhood forever.

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<v S2>And everybody knows each other's kids and everybody knows each

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<v S2>other's names. But you drive up and suddenly the conversation

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<v S2>gets quiet and no one seems to acknowledge you. You see,

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<v S2>you're a foreigner. You're an outsider. You don't belong. You're

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<v S2>on the other side of the wall. There's nothing more

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<v S2>intimidating than going to some events and walking in by yourself,

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<v S2>and everybody's talking and cliques and groups of people. But

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<v S2>there you are, not really knowing anybody in the room,

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<v S2>feeling a little bit like, I don't want to just

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<v S2>stand here and look dumb. The best thing to do

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<v S2>in those situations get a cup of coffee. At least

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<v S2>you are doing something. Something about just having something in

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<v S2>your hand that feels like at least I'm not just

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<v S2>standing there like this. I'm sipping my coffee. But there's

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<v S2>something extremely intimidating about being in a place where you

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<v S2>don't know people, and it doesn't seem like people want

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<v S2>to know you because you're on the other side of

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<v S2>the wall, the other side of the wall. You're the outsider,

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<v S2>not the insider. Paul is talking to believers. He's talking

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<v S2>to Christian, Gentile, non-Jewish people. And he's reminding them, never

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<v S2>forget that at one time in your life, you also

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<v S2>were on the other side of the wall. Never forget,

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<v S2>now that you're an insider. Never forget what it felt

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<v S2>like to be an outsider, because it wasn't that long

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<v S2>ago that you were on the outside of the wall.

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<v S2>It wasn't that long ago that you didn't really understand

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<v S2>the things of God, that you didn't really have Christ,

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<v S2>that you didn't understand his promises, that you were without

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<v S2>the hope of God in the world. It wasn't long

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<v S2>ago that people looked at you. There was a divide,

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<v S2>by the way, between the Jews and the Gentiles. And

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<v S2>in order to understand this, I have to give you

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<v S2>a little bit of historical perspective. Of course, you know

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<v S2>that Jesus was born a Jew, right? I know you've

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<v S2>seen the paintings. He looks like a German with blue

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<v S2>eyes and blond hair. But let me tell you, that's

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<v S2>not what Jesus looked like. Oh, that's a medieval painting

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<v S2>of Jesus. I can guarantee you Jesus wasn't white, blond

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<v S2>and blue eyed. That wasn't Jesus. He was probably more

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<v S2>than likely olive complected skin. Dark hair like you would

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<v S2>find in a in a middle eastern culture, Jewish individual.

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<v S2>And that's the image, really, of Jesus. He wasn't movie

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<v S2>star looking either. The Bible says he had no stately

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<v S2>form or majesty that we would gaze upon him. It

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<v S2>wasn't like he was. Whoa! Here is the latest Jewish

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<v S2>movie star either. He was just a normal, natural individual,

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<v S2>physically speaking. But he was born of Jewish descent. You

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<v S2>could trace his roots all the way back to the

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<v S2>lineage of King David. And when Jesus was born, he

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<v S2>never really traveled beyond 60 miles from his hometown. The

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<v S2>12 disciples that he chose were Jewish men. He ministered

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<v S2>primarily in the context of Jewish people. Why? Not that

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<v S2>Jesus wanted to exclude non-Jewish people, but he came unto

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<v S2>his own, first of all, to give the message to them.

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<v S2>And the Bible says, he came into his own, but

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<v S2>his own received him not. And then to them he

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<v S2>gave the right to become the sons of God, to whoever,

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<v S2>whoever believed on him. So he came first of all

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<v S2>to the Jewish people who were the chosen people of

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<v S2>God from generations previous. Through Abraham. He came to the

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<v S2>Jewish people and he gave them the first opportunity to

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<v S2>respond to his message. But he always the gospel always

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<v S2>came first to the Jew, but then it expanded to

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<v S2>the non-Jewish, to the Gentile. And you have to understand

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<v S2>that as you read the New Testament, because a lot

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<v S2>of the writings of Paul are directed in that direction.

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<v S1>We'll continue our message in just a moment here on

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<v S1>Bold Steps with Mark Jobe. But first, Mark, if you'll

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<v S1>permit me, I want to share something that's been weighing

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<v S1>on my heart lately. I've been thinking about how throughout history,

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<v S1>God has always raised up people who prioritized his mission,

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<v S1>even during some very turbulent times. Whether it was the

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<v S1>early church during persecution or believers during world wars, or

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<v S1>missionaries in hostile territories, there have always been those who

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<v S1>kept their focus on advancing the gospel despite everything happening

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<v S1>around them, and we've got a lot happening around us

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<v S1>right now.

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<v S2>And Wayne, oftentimes it's in the midst of a lot

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<v S2>of turbulence and turmoil that people start looking to the

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<v S2>heavens in special ways. And I believe that we live

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<v S2>in a moment like that. And I just want to

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<v S2>say that as a pastor, I've been a pastor for

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<v S2>over 30 some years in the city of Chicago. I

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<v S2>have never seen the openness that I've seen. Now that's incredible.

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<v S2>I'm having these conversations, especially with young people we've seen

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<v S2>at our church. Over a thousand people come to Christ

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<v S2>and get baptized in the last 24 months, mainly under

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<v S2>the age of 35, many that had no religious background

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<v S2>and are just hungry for God. And I think the

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<v S2>turbulence of the world has caused them to say I

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<v S2>need something. And many of us as believers, we're getting

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<v S2>too distracted by what's happening and not focused enough on

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<v S2>the gospel. And so I want to bring your attention

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<v S2>back to the opportunities that you have around you. That's

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<v S2>what Bold Steps is all about. Regardless of what's happening

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<v S2>in our world, we believe that the greatest news that

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<v S2>needs to be proclaimed is the good news that Jesus

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<v S2>Christ is here. He's the Savior, and we do not

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<v S2>want to miss this window of opportunity of so many

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<v S1>again is Mark.

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<v S2>Now, what you may not understand is that there was

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<v S2>an extreme bias, prejudice and racial divide between Jews and non-Jews.

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<v S2>In fact, if you read some of the Jewish literature

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<v S2>of the time, some of the Jewish writers of the

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<v S2>time indicated that God had created Gentiles for the sole

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<v S2>purpose of fueling the fires of hell. It was unlawful

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<v S2>for a Jew to help a Gentile woman give birth

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<v S2>for the this, for simply the fact that he would

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<v S2>be helping another Gentile into the world. In the days

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<v S2>of Jesus, a Jewish man would pray this prayer in

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<v S2>the synagogue. He would say, thank you, Lord, that you

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<v S2>did not, that I was not born a Gentile. And

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<v S2>thank you, Lord, that I was not born a woman,

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<v S2>because there was extreme bias towards women as well in

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<v S2>the days of Jesus. If you went to the temple,

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<v S2>even the temple itself showed that there was division. The

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<v S2>temple had the Holy of Holies. The Holy of Holies

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<v S2>was a place divided by a curtain, a heavy curtain.

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<v S2>Behind that heavy curtain in the Holy of Holies area

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<v S2>was the Ark of the covenant that had the tablets

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<v S2>of the Ten Commandments and a few other artifacts that

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<v S2>had been part of Israel's history, and it was a

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<v S2>sacred place, a place which was considered the place where

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<v S2>God would dwell in a manifest, special way. Only the

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<v S2>high priest would allow to go into the Holy of

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<v S2>Holies once a year on the Day of Atonement. Before

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<v S2>he went into the Holy of Holies, he had to

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<v S2>sacrifice and make sure that he was cleansed. He wore robes,

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<v S2>and at the bottom of that robe there were little bells.

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<v S2>The bells would indicate movement. As he moved around. People

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<v S2>knew that he was busy. About once he went behind

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<v S2>the curtain, you could hear the bells moving as he

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<v S2>went about his sacrificial duties, but they also would tie

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<v S2>a rope around his ankle, just in case he had

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<v S2>not done everything right, and he was struck dead by

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<v S2>the power of God, and no one could go in

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<v S2>to retrieve the body. They had a rope around the

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<v S2>ankle so that they could drag the body out in

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<v S2>case God struck him dead. I mean, not a job

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<v S2>that everybody would want. Definitely discouraged church attendance nowadays, right?

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<v S2>But outside of that court, the Holy of holies. And

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<v S2>there was another court. It was a court of men,

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<v S2>Jewish men. Only Jewish men were allowed to go into

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<v S2>that court of men. They were permitted to go into

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<v S2>that court and further away from the Holy of Holies.

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<v S2>Then there was the court of women. Jewish women were

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<v S2>allowed to enter into that court, but not into the

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<v S2>court of men and not into the Holy of Holies.

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<v S2>And then further out, way out here there was the

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<v S2>court of Gentiles. If you were a non-Jewish person, you

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<v S2>were only allowed into the court of Gentiles, not into

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<v S2>the court of women, not in the court of men,

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<v S2>not into the Holy of Holies. You were way out

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<v S2>there in the court of Gentiles, if you so happen

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<v S2>to be someone that said, I want to get closer

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<v S2>to the Holy of Holies, but yet I'm Gentile, and

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<v S2>you would go into the court of women or go

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<v S2>into the court of men. Jewish law prescribed that you

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<v S2>would be executed for violating that law.

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<v S1>You're listening to Bold Steps, the Bible teaching of Mark job.

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<v S1>Today's message is titled Tearing Down Walls, and you can

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<v S1>hear part two of the message on Friday's program. So

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<v S1>us more about the book. We've got the authors right here,

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<v S1>Aaron and Jason Davis, to speak with us.

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<v S2>Jason, you mentioned in your book Lies Boys believe that

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<v S2>one of the most harmful lies that boys can fall

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<v S2>for is that reading the Bible just isn't for me.

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<v S2>And in an age of declining Biblical literacy. How can

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<v S2>parents help their sons develop a love for God's Word

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<v S2>and really want to read it?

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<v S3>I think that you're right on and it is a

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<v S3>real issue. But an exciting thing is that searches for

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<v S3>Bible related content, uh, have skyrocketed over the last several months.

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<v S3>So I think there's a resurgence of interest in things

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<v S3>of Scripture. But, uh, when we're dealing specifically with young men,

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<v S3>I think that, yeah, it can be daunting, especially if

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<v S3>they just randomly open up their Bible. And it's a,

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<v S3>you know, numbers and they're just reading these chains of content. Uh,

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<v S3>and that's important content, but it's probably more appropriate for

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<v S3>somebody that has a better grasp on the full scripture.

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<v S3>So where I think families should start is with something

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<v S3>simple like lies, boys believe something to spark an interest

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<v S3>in Scripture and then challenging their their son. Hey, did

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<v S3>you read the Bible today? Did you? Can you tell

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<v S3>me about an adventure that Jesus had? Or tell me

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<v S3>about a challenge that Jesus faced? Tell me what the

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<v S3>disciples were up to and make it relatable to story

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<v S3>instead of just facts and figures and boys will relate

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<v S3>more to the story, especially when it involves adventure or

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<v S3>challenges and overcoming those challenges.

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<v S4>And if I could just talk to the mom or

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<v S4>the grandma listening, it looks different for our husbands and

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<v S4>our sons than it does for us. Uh, for me,

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<v S4>it's a quiet morning with my Bible open and a

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<v S4>cup of coffee nearby. I gather with a group of

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<v S4>women in a circle every week, and for a long

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<v S4>time I had that expectation for Jason, my husband and

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<v S4>my sons. And it looks different for them. Jason and

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<v S4>I teach boys and girls Sunday school, so he teaches

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<v S4>the boys. I teach the girls. We're on the same hallway,

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<v S4>and the girls literally are sitting quietly in a circle

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<v S4>with their Bibles open, reading the verses out loud, and

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<v S4>we can hear the boys all the way down the hall.

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<v S4>I don't know what they're doing, but they're they're loud.

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<v S1>And Jason.

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<v S4>Jason's taught me that it's important that those boys love

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<v S4>church and that they walk out of Sunday school going,

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<v S4>that was a great time. And they're getting the Bible,

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<v S4>but it looks different than it does for us. And

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<v S4>that's part of celebrating the differences between boys and girls.

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<v S4>And so I just think as moms, we can sometimes

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<v S4>have an expectation that our sons interactions with the word

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<v S4>will be quiet and they will exegete with us and

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<v S4>they will want to dialogue. And that just isn't always

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<v S4>how it happens. And they should have the freedom to

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<v S4>explore the word in the ways that are meaningful to them.

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<v S2>Yeah, and I love that you're pointing out the differences

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<v S2>with how boys and girls typically learn. There's always exceptions

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<v S2>to that. But thank you so much. This is a

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<v S2>great resource. I'm encouraged by the way, Jason, you mentioned

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<v S2>that there's an uptick in biblical literacy. They say 22%

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<v S2>sales of Bibles have gone up. And I'm also encouraged

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<v S2>that we live in a season where there's an upsurge

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<v S2>also in young men going to church, and I do

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<v S2>think that some of it has to do with the

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<v S2>lies that they've been raised with, and they're looking for truth.

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<v S3>Absolutely. They'll find it in Scripture. They'll find that truth.

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<v S2>So let's get them started. Young lies, Boys Believe by

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<v S2>Aaron and Jason. Thank you for this tool. I think

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