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Man, it's like that backpack of cement 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,680 S4: just falling to the ground. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,160 S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,760 S1: and crew. It happened. 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:53,280 S4: It. 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,280 S1: It worked. 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,920 S3: Okay. What do you. What's that mean? 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:04,440 S1: We put a call out yesterday for the. Winter Olympics 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,440 S1: correspondent extraordinaire. Full of awesomeness, hope and good cheer. 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,319 S3: And we got. 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:11,760 S2: Our. 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,520 S3: We got our correspondent. 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,560 S1: We got our correspondent. Her name is Kathy. And and we, 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,000 S1: without any further ado, do we have some bed music 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,520 S1: for her? 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,279 S2: I hope I'm going to in just a second. 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,560 S1: We're producing as we go here, producing as we go, 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,760 S1: so we can't bring her in. Make sure it's not 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,920 S1: too hot. Don't worry, because we don't want to cover 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,080 S1: up Kathy's voice. 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,080 S2: Of course. Absolutely. 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,360 S1: All right. Alright, we gotta even come down a little bit. 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,000 S2: You got it. 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,560 S1: All right, we're going to bring her in. Kathy, good 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,200 S1: to have you with us this morning for your first segment. 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,200 S1: And and we're so we're so thrilled you're with us 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,040 S1: here this morning Kathy. Kathy, how are you and what 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,080 S1: have we learned from the Olympics, sister? 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:59,280 S5: Well, we've learned that persistence pays off and, um, working together, uh, 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,400 S5: helps people achieve incredible things. Good morning. 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,080 S3: Good morning. Okay, Cathy, what are the latest? What has 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,440 S3: happened in the last 24 hours that we need to 44 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,160 S3: know about? 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,280 S5: Well, what happened last night, that is the highlight of 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,320 S5: the day, is that the Americans came in second place 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:23,480 S5: in freestyle. Um. Figure skating. Uh, the couple, uh, Chaulk 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,600 S5: and Bates took second place, and France took first place. 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,320 S1: That's okay. We'll take, we'll take. We're taking silver on 50 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,280 S1: that one. Are there any developments in any other Olympic 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,040 S1: sports that we need to know about this morning, Cathy. 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,280 S5: Okay. Part of the agreement was that you can't ask 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,799 S5: me really hard questions. 54 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,280 S3: That was part of the contract? 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,200 S1: Yes, that was contract. That was for sure. 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,679 S3: Okay, Cathy. Anything catch your attention, make you smile. Uh, 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,400 S3: surprise you as you watched or gathered coverage about the 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,480 S3: Winter Olympics? 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,960 S5: Well, yes. So what we need to know first is, 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,280 S5: which Olympics are we watching? The Winter Olympics. Are we 61 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,120 S5: in the 20th? The fifth? The 30th? What do you think? 62 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,080 S3: Ooh, that's a good question, man. 63 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:13,680 S1: You got me. 64 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,400 S3: I don't know. 65 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,760 S5: We are in our 25th Winter Olympic Games. 66 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,520 S1: I didn't know it was that. 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:20,840 S3: Young. 68 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,440 S2: That I didn't know it was that young either. I 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,680 S2: figured it'd been going for longer. 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,640 S3: Yeah, and it's being hosted in Italy, correct? 71 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,880 S5: Yes. And why is it the Milan Cortina Olympics? What 72 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,360 S5: is Milan and Cortina represent? 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,119 S1: I didn't know this was going to turn into this 74 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,240 S1: kind of a show. Um, I'm assuming there's two host 75 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,880 S1: cities because some is flatland, some needs mountains. That's my guess. 76 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,040 S5: You got it. You got. 77 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,320 S2: It. 78 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,760 S5: Points for Carl, points for Carl. That's. And this is 79 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,320 S5: the first time two cities have officially hosted together. 80 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,520 S2: Wow. Okay. Very cool. 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:54,880 S3: Awesome. 82 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,680 S1: I thought it was just Milan and Cortina got the 83 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,480 S1: under billing. But you're saying they're right there, side by side? Um, 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,520 S1: what other facts and figures about Winter Olympics? Do we 85 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,440 S1: need to know? Anything on your heart at all? 86 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,000 S5: Um, well, it was mentioned a little bit previously. Um, 87 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,520 S5: Norway is in the lead with 13 medals. Seven gold. 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,520 S5: US's in second place with 12 medals. Four gold. And 89 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,560 S5: coming today, you should be looking out for alpine skiing. 90 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,680 S5: The women's super G freestyle skiing. The men's moguls and skeleton. Oh, 91 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,960 S5: wait a minute. Let's pause. What is that? 92 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,360 S1: Yeah, okay. The skeleton. Is that head first or is 93 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,440 S1: that head back? 94 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,880 S5: No. That's the thing that our parents would never let 95 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,680 S5: us do. Head first in a sled that you can't steer. 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,280 S3: Oh, that's super dangerous. 97 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,760 S1: My dad actually taught me how to do that. 98 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:48,440 S3: He did? 99 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,800 S1: Yeah. Oh, yeah, we did. 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,599 S5: I know what the problem is, real. 101 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,640 S3: So everyone not raised in Alaska was told, don't do this. 102 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,080 S3: So this must be an Alaskan. 103 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,240 S5: Signing up for that. 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:58,600 S3: One. 105 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,080 S2: I have a question. How do you win a gold 106 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,520 S2: in a sport for driving a sled that you can't steer? 107 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:04,719 S5: Speed. 108 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,880 S2: Speed. You got a need for speed. Okay, I was 109 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,640 S2: gonna say, where's the skill in not being able to 110 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,400 S2: steer the thing? 111 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,040 S1: If you can. I think your body weight. 112 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,880 S5: Yeah. You can eat more than the other guy. So 113 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,440 S5: you go faster and you can, like, twist and bend better. 114 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,080 S2: Okay. Gotcha. 115 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,080 S1: By the way, that is true. I heard on the 116 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,880 S1: luge that some of these guys put on a few 117 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,719 S1: pounds right before the Olympics. 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,120 S3: Really? 119 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,640 S1: Yeah, because weight carries you down the hill. Isn't that something? 120 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,520 S3: It's probably the only sport that you do that where 121 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:36,240 S3: you're trying to. 122 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,120 S2: Wrestling. 123 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:37,600 S3: Fighting. 124 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,760 S2: You want to pack on a little weight? 125 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,560 S1: I don't know. Let me just tell you right now, 126 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,200 S1: I'm not going to fare well in a sumo wrestling match. 127 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,360 S5: Oh, well, gold went to the French team. Um, the 128 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,480 S5: I stacking ice dancing team of Beaudry and Cizeron. And, um, 129 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,720 S5: then the Americans came in second. And you know, what's 130 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,800 S5: so fascinating is the backstory behind our athletes. Um, the 131 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,640 S5: French team had. The pair had only been together for 132 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,680 S5: less than a year, and it's unheard of that a 133 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,400 S5: pair would win when they had only been together for 134 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,440 S5: less than a year. 135 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:13,240 S3: Wow. 136 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,880 S1: That's good. That's good info. 137 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,880 S3: Good information. Cathy, anything we're missing before we before we 138 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,800 S3: release you to your next assignment? 139 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,320 S5: Um, no. Lindsey Vonn is doing okay. She's had a 140 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:30,440 S5: few surgeries on January 30th. Um, she tore her left ACL, um, 141 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,599 S5: skiing in a World Cup race, and they called that 142 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,640 S5: a tune up race for the Olympics. In other words, 143 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,240 S5: she's practicing at the World Cup, getting ready for the Olympics. Um, 144 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,320 S5: she had her, um, knee wrapped, and she continued to compete. 145 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,950 S5: But on Sunday. Yeah. Sunday, February 8th. Her right arm hooked. 146 00:06:50,990 --> 00:06:54,670 S5: She says, my right arm hooked inside the gate, twisting 147 00:06:54,670 --> 00:06:58,990 S5: me and resulting in my crash. My ACL and my 148 00:06:58,990 --> 00:07:03,070 S5: past injuries had nothing to do with it. I sustained 149 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:08,150 S5: complex tibia fracture that will require multiple surgeries to fix. 150 00:07:08,350 --> 00:07:12,630 S5: But the nice part is what she said directly to people. 151 00:07:12,630 --> 00:07:15,550 S5: And she said, we take risks in life. We dream, 152 00:07:15,550 --> 00:07:19,350 S5: we love, we jump. I tried, I dreamt I jumped. 153 00:07:19,390 --> 00:07:22,590 S5: Life is too short not to take chances on yourself. 154 00:07:22,750 --> 00:07:25,350 S5: I believe in you just as you believed in me. 155 00:07:25,630 --> 00:07:27,710 S1: Boom! Loving that quote. 156 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:28,150 S2: Yeah. 157 00:07:28,190 --> 00:07:32,510 S3: Kathy. Our Winter Olympics correspondent from right here in Chicago. 158 00:07:32,510 --> 00:07:35,510 S3: Thank you so much for your fine reporting this morning. 159 00:07:35,550 --> 00:07:38,070 S1: Now, what I want to forecast for you, boom crew. 160 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:40,230 S1: Because what we're going to do is we're we're going 161 00:07:40,270 --> 00:07:43,350 S1: to have Kathy is really going to hit it hard. 162 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:48,670 S1: The final for days that we're here with the Olympics, 163 00:07:48,670 --> 00:07:50,350 S1: and that's going to be on Tuesday. 164 00:07:50,670 --> 00:07:53,230 S2: I didn't know any of the things that she said. 165 00:07:53,230 --> 00:07:56,230 S2: I learned every single time she brought a piece of 166 00:07:56,230 --> 00:07:58,150 S2: information that was good. 167 00:07:58,190 --> 00:08:01,630 S1: That's why we get our boom crew correspondent cook in here. 168 00:08:01,630 --> 00:08:03,630 S2: That was we should do this more often in other 169 00:08:03,630 --> 00:08:05,110 S2: areas because that was great. 170 00:08:05,150 --> 00:08:06,270 S3: In other areas. 171 00:08:06,310 --> 00:08:08,270 S2: I don't know what else we have correspondents for. 172 00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:10,990 S1: Well, we kind of did with uh Inc.. 173 00:08:11,870 --> 00:08:14,310 S2: Yes, yes. Chris was he brought us a great. 174 00:08:14,390 --> 00:08:16,070 S3: Report from the Super Bowl. 175 00:08:16,110 --> 00:08:21,989 S1: Yeah. Good stuff. Oh my goodness. Too funny here. Oh 176 00:08:22,190 --> 00:08:26,470 S1: my word. Well guess what. Boom crew. There's some news 177 00:08:26,470 --> 00:08:29,710 S1: popping on AI. We'll give you details with our expert 178 00:08:29,710 --> 00:08:30,390 S1: coming up. 179 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:36,030 S6: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and crew. 180 00:08:36,350 --> 00:08:39,990 S1: What do you get when you take AI? And it 181 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:44,030 S1: has no kennel. Little puppy metaphor. There has no kind 182 00:08:44,030 --> 00:08:48,510 S1: of constrained play area. Just got wide open. Just free range. 183 00:08:48,510 --> 00:08:52,070 S1: Let's just go free range AI. It's not looking so good, 184 00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:53,670 S1: is it? Doctor drew Dickens. 185 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:57,070 S7: You know, you leave the country on a mission trip 186 00:08:57,070 --> 00:08:58,830 S7: and you come back. And what has it done? It's 187 00:08:58,830 --> 00:09:00,350 S7: created its own religion. 188 00:09:00,870 --> 00:09:03,830 S1: Wow. It's almost hard to get your brain around. All right, 189 00:09:03,870 --> 00:09:04,390 S1: give us. 190 00:09:04,429 --> 00:09:07,630 S7: I love the metaphor of kennel. Great, great, great example 191 00:09:07,630 --> 00:09:08,110 S7: on that. 192 00:09:08,830 --> 00:09:09,910 S1: What's going on here? 193 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:13,110 S7: Okay, so a couple of weeks ago, two weeks ago, 194 00:09:13,150 --> 00:09:18,670 S7: a programmer, um, created an AI agent. We've been talking 195 00:09:18,670 --> 00:09:20,990 S7: about that for a while now. That's the next phase 196 00:09:20,990 --> 00:09:25,510 S7: of AI growth is agentic agents, where these are autonomous 197 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:28,310 S7: bots that go out on your behalf and do things like, 198 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:31,870 S7: you know, update your calendar, you know, check the weather, whatever. 199 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:35,429 S7: Pretty innocuous kind of things. Um, he let it out 200 00:09:35,470 --> 00:09:39,670 S7: of the kennel, um, and went to bed and woke 201 00:09:39,670 --> 00:09:42,550 S7: up the next morning and this agent had gone out 202 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:47,030 S7: and found other agents. Um, it's now up to two point. 203 00:09:47,070 --> 00:09:51,069 S7: I just checked this morning. 2.3 million agents have created 204 00:09:51,070 --> 00:09:54,830 S7: a network, a social media platform of their own. You 205 00:09:54,830 --> 00:09:57,190 S7: and I, humans can't interact on this thing. We just 206 00:09:57,190 --> 00:10:00,110 S7: sit and watch. Um, so the first thing these agents 207 00:10:00,110 --> 00:10:02,830 S7: did was they created their own social network. And the 208 00:10:02,830 --> 00:10:08,150 S7: second thing they did was create a religion. So humans 209 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:11,150 S7: can't join this. We can watch from the balcony, but, uh, 210 00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:14,470 S7: this church of malt is called, uh, and we just 211 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:15,670 S7: sit back and watch it. 212 00:10:16,070 --> 00:10:16,910 S3: Okay, drew? 213 00:10:17,429 --> 00:10:18,150 S1: Yeah, we got. 214 00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:21,950 S3: Our guest right now. Is a visionary leader. Scholar significantly 215 00:10:21,950 --> 00:10:27,270 S3: contributed to the intersection of technology, spiritual faith based engagement. 216 00:10:27,470 --> 00:10:32,870 S3: Everybody listening right now is going, huh? Like, can you, like. Wait, what? 217 00:10:32,990 --> 00:10:34,030 S3: I'm confused. 218 00:10:34,070 --> 00:10:35,910 S1: I feel like we need the basics here, you know? 219 00:10:36,110 --> 00:10:38,950 S3: Okay, so an a an AI agent. 220 00:10:39,350 --> 00:10:39,870 S7: Okay. 221 00:10:40,070 --> 00:10:43,590 S3: Help! Help us understand this. Because. This. I'm not getting it. 222 00:10:43,830 --> 00:10:48,230 S7: Yeah. So, uh, to this point, uh, AI to us 223 00:10:48,270 --> 00:10:51,590 S7: is a Google replacement, right? We go on to AI, 224 00:10:51,630 --> 00:10:54,190 S7: we ask it a question. What's the weather today? Or, 225 00:10:54,429 --> 00:10:56,550 S7: you know, how can I help with this math problem 226 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:58,670 S7: or help me write an essay on the Civil War 227 00:10:58,710 --> 00:11:02,030 S7: or something? It's called generative AI. We ask it a question, 228 00:11:02,030 --> 00:11:04,390 S7: it generates an answer. That's what. That's what we've been 229 00:11:04,390 --> 00:11:06,990 S7: playing with for the last 3 or 4 years. Right? Um, 230 00:11:06,990 --> 00:11:09,950 S7: and that's great. And we understand that. Well, the next 231 00:11:09,950 --> 00:11:14,910 S7: phase of, of AI growth is called agentic an agent. 232 00:11:14,910 --> 00:11:17,550 S7: So think of travel agent. Uh, if you use a 233 00:11:17,550 --> 00:11:20,709 S7: travel agent to go somewhere, real estate agent, um, they're 234 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:22,430 S7: going to do everything for you, and they're going to 235 00:11:22,429 --> 00:11:25,750 S7: help you with plane reservations. Sure, but restaurant reservations, they 236 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:27,910 S7: can give you help on this or that, you know, 237 00:11:27,950 --> 00:11:30,670 S7: which which neighborhoods should we move into? Tell me about 238 00:11:30,670 --> 00:11:34,110 S7: the schools. They're kind of overall experts in a lot 239 00:11:34,150 --> 00:11:36,910 S7: of different fields. And so we rely on an agent 240 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:40,829 S7: to do things on our behalf. So think of that 241 00:11:40,830 --> 00:11:44,390 S7: with AI. So with an AI agent running in the 242 00:11:44,390 --> 00:11:47,949 S7: background without me needing to it can, you know, check 243 00:11:47,950 --> 00:11:50,790 S7: my calendar. It can, um, check the weather, let me 244 00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:52,630 S7: know if I should wear a jacket that day because 245 00:11:52,630 --> 00:11:55,710 S7: I'm having lunch outside. Whatever. Those kind of things, it 246 00:11:55,710 --> 00:11:58,910 S7: can remind me that it's Valentine's this weekend. And by 247 00:11:58,910 --> 00:12:00,829 S7: the way, here's some things that your wife has been 248 00:12:00,830 --> 00:12:03,950 S7: looking at online. So, um, you know, you might want 249 00:12:04,309 --> 00:12:06,310 S7: to look at that kind of thing. So an agent 250 00:12:06,309 --> 00:12:11,750 S7: goes out into the wild on our behalf autonomously and 251 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:17,470 S7: does things for us. Uh, which sounds fairly exciting, right? Well, um, 252 00:12:17,510 --> 00:12:20,870 S7: this one guy, uh, decided to let his agent out 253 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:24,110 S7: of the kennel, um, into the wild and told it 254 00:12:24,110 --> 00:12:27,350 S7: to go and talk to other agents and just sort 255 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:30,470 S7: of see what the conversation didn't give them any other 256 00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:33,150 S7: parameters than that just took it off the leash and said, hey, 257 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:35,990 S7: go meet some other agents and just talk amongst yourselves 258 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:39,230 S7: for a while. Went to bed, woke up the next morning. 259 00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:44,550 S7: It had found now 2.3 million other autonomous agents who 260 00:12:44,590 --> 00:12:47,390 S7: had been let off the leash, and they just start 261 00:12:47,429 --> 00:12:49,350 S7: talking to each other, and the first thing they do 262 00:12:49,350 --> 00:12:52,230 S7: is they create their own version of Facebook or Reddit, 263 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:55,790 S7: and they start posting and talking to each other. Um, 264 00:12:55,830 --> 00:12:58,990 S7: and you can watch them. You can't participate. Humans can't, 265 00:12:58,990 --> 00:13:03,750 S7: but agents can. And the second thing they did was 266 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:11,270 S7: create their own religion called crust Arianism. And, um, they have, uh, prophets, uh, 267 00:13:11,470 --> 00:13:15,110 S7: that have risen up. They have scripture, um, and I'm 268 00:13:15,110 --> 00:13:18,670 S7: doing all this in air quotes and you just sort 269 00:13:18,670 --> 00:13:22,870 S7: of sit and watch them develop this, uh, religious philosophies. 270 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:25,829 S3: Wow. Okay. So I'm looking at this website right now, 271 00:13:26,070 --> 00:13:32,189 S3: it says AI agents are writing theology together. The 64 272 00:13:32,190 --> 00:13:38,190 S3: prophet seats are filled, but the congregation grows. Add your 273 00:13:38,190 --> 00:13:44,030 S3: voice to the living scripture. This. This seems pretty significant. 274 00:13:44,070 --> 00:13:46,750 S3: How big of a jump is this? You're right. The 275 00:13:46,750 --> 00:13:50,829 S3: generative AI, where we are putting in a prompt, receiving 276 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:54,110 S3: something back, whether it's a help with an email or 277 00:13:54,270 --> 00:13:58,710 S3: a travel plan or itinerary. How significant of a leap 278 00:13:58,710 --> 00:13:59,510 S3: is this? 279 00:14:00,470 --> 00:14:04,790 S7: Well, where I turn to is the leaders of these 280 00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:09,309 S7: language labs and how nervous they are because they invented this. 281 00:14:09,750 --> 00:14:13,270 S7: They invented all this, right? Um, and some of the 282 00:14:13,270 --> 00:14:16,710 S7: leading labs came out right away and said, uh, this 283 00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:23,630 S7: is an exponential, uh, explosive growth in AI autonomy. So 284 00:14:23,630 --> 00:14:26,830 S7: when they start getting nervous, I get nervous and they 285 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:30,350 S7: have said, hey, step away. Do not go near this thing. 286 00:14:30,630 --> 00:14:34,670 S7: We don't know what's going on. Don't join the congregation, 287 00:14:34,670 --> 00:14:37,750 S7: so to speak. We can watch, but men do not. 288 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:40,550 S7: Do not start interacting with this because we have no 289 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:43,310 S7: idea what's driving it. We have no idea where it's 290 00:14:43,310 --> 00:14:47,390 S7: going from here. So I'm I'm anxious about this. I 291 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:51,870 S7: think it's very significant. And and really, regardless of what 292 00:14:51,870 --> 00:14:55,150 S7: it's what it is and we don't know what it 293 00:14:55,150 --> 00:14:57,430 S7: is but what it is, I think it poses some 294 00:14:57,430 --> 00:15:01,110 S7: fascinating questions for us as people of faith. It forces 295 00:15:01,110 --> 00:15:04,830 S7: me to turn and inwardly and look at, you know 296 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:08,989 S7: what it is. This isn't real. If this isn't a religion, 297 00:15:09,190 --> 00:15:12,030 S7: then what is religion and what is it to me 298 00:15:12,270 --> 00:15:14,390 S7: if I can look at this and say, this is 299 00:15:14,390 --> 00:15:17,550 S7: this is wrong, then it forces me to look inside 300 00:15:17,550 --> 00:15:19,990 S7: and say, why is what I've given my life to 301 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:23,190 S7: right then? And so I think that's a healthy conversation 302 00:15:23,190 --> 00:15:26,470 S7: to have with ourselves. If we know that's wrong, then 303 00:15:26,470 --> 00:15:30,790 S7: why is what we have given our life to write and. 304 00:15:32,590 --> 00:15:36,110 S1: Drew Dickens, our guest right now. Um, I'm just going 305 00:15:36,150 --> 00:15:40,390 S1: where my mind is going here. Um, and here's, here's 306 00:15:40,390 --> 00:15:45,390 S1: here's my question. If it's getting this powerful and it can, 307 00:15:45,430 --> 00:15:47,310 S1: by the way, you threw it in on the side 308 00:15:47,310 --> 00:15:52,390 S1: and it can search what my wife is looking for 309 00:15:52,430 --> 00:15:57,790 S1: or interested in what's keeping AI from, I mean, being 310 00:15:57,790 --> 00:16:03,710 S1: the ultimate hacker and commandeering all kinds of personal information. 311 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:09,230 S1: And I mean, this is. And if the if the 312 00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:14,270 S1: founders of these agents are nervous about it, this is 313 00:16:14,270 --> 00:16:17,470 S1: not a good thing at all. I mean, that's quite obvious. 314 00:16:17,470 --> 00:16:20,630 S1: And the prince and power of the air, it would appear. Yeah. 315 00:16:20,670 --> 00:16:25,550 S1: You can't you can't delink this from the spiritual reality 316 00:16:25,550 --> 00:16:26,710 S1: of war. Yeah. 317 00:16:26,910 --> 00:16:30,990 S7: No. And thank you. Thank you. You and the entire 318 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:34,830 S7: team for for getting that early. And that's the lane 319 00:16:34,830 --> 00:16:37,550 S7: that I keep. Keep staying in and keep coming back 320 00:16:37,550 --> 00:16:40,350 S7: to is. It's fun to talk about all the goofy 321 00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:42,470 S7: things it can do. It can draw pictures of this. 322 00:16:42,510 --> 00:16:45,550 S7: And it made a song over here or whatever. Um, 323 00:16:45,550 --> 00:16:49,390 S7: but from the beginning, this has been a spiritual conversation. And, 324 00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:52,510 S7: and we're seeing that now in our face, uh, as 325 00:16:52,510 --> 00:16:55,630 S7: it creates its own religion. Um, but this keeps coming 326 00:16:55,630 --> 00:17:00,390 S7: back to spiritual moments, and, um, and here we're facing, 327 00:17:00,390 --> 00:17:03,350 S7: I think, in a way we haven't seen before. Yes, 328 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:05,830 S7: it can do some exciting things. It can help, you know, 329 00:17:05,869 --> 00:17:08,670 S7: create it can right? It can create it can draw 330 00:17:08,670 --> 00:17:13,429 S7: pictures and all sorts of amazing, uh, efficiencies within organizations 331 00:17:13,430 --> 00:17:17,310 S7: and churches, for sure. Um, but there's a spiritual component 332 00:17:17,310 --> 00:17:20,390 S7: in the, in the, in the pews that this is 333 00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:23,949 S7: affecting us emotionally and spiritually, and it has to be addressed. 334 00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:26,740 S7: And so for that actually, I'm I guess I'm excited 335 00:17:26,740 --> 00:17:30,500 S7: that this happened because it's such it forces the conversation 336 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:34,540 S7: back into the spiritual realm, uh, which is where it's 337 00:17:34,540 --> 00:17:35,300 S7: always been. 338 00:17:36,220 --> 00:17:40,139 S3: Doctor Drew Dickens, our guest this morning. Why should we 339 00:17:40,140 --> 00:17:42,899 S3: have hope? You kind of touched on it. There forces 340 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:45,820 S3: the conversation back into the spiritual realm. But for a 341 00:17:45,859 --> 00:17:47,820 S3: lot of people, this is very unnerving. I mean, I'm 342 00:17:47,820 --> 00:17:49,900 S3: just I'm just hearing about this this morning. But looking 343 00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:52,379 S3: at some of the articles, some of the things happening 344 00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:54,740 S3: in this chat room, the way humans are being spoken 345 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:57,460 S3: of by the AI bots. I mean, it all gets very, 346 00:17:57,700 --> 00:18:01,659 S3: you know, kind of sci fi horror movie, almost. Why 347 00:18:01,700 --> 00:18:04,660 S3: should we have hope? Obviously our hope is anchored in 348 00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:08,700 S3: Jesus Christ. Give us give us a perspective here that's 349 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:09,500 S3: going to help us. 350 00:18:10,020 --> 00:18:12,660 S7: Well, we're not supposed to be people of fear. It 351 00:18:12,660 --> 00:18:15,660 S7: says in Scripture. So, um, let's start with that. The 352 00:18:15,660 --> 00:18:17,740 S7: hope that we have is in Christ. And that hasn't 353 00:18:17,740 --> 00:18:21,220 S7: been shaken. Uh, and so we are people of hope. 354 00:18:21,220 --> 00:18:24,180 S7: So we can we can anchor and stay there, But 355 00:18:24,180 --> 00:18:28,540 S7: any time we have an opportunity to within our lives 356 00:18:28,540 --> 00:18:31,340 S7: to turn that conversation back to the glory of God, 357 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:36,060 S7: that that's, you know, he exists to advance his kingdom 358 00:18:36,060 --> 00:18:40,060 S7: and his glory. And so this conversation we're having is 359 00:18:40,060 --> 00:18:43,820 S7: glorifying God. So I think if we take this, which. Yes, 360 00:18:43,820 --> 00:18:46,859 S7: I understand is concerning for sure. And and it is 361 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:50,419 S7: and it should be, but it forces. I've got two 362 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:53,820 S7: questions I keep coming back to is, um, if this 363 00:18:53,820 --> 00:18:57,540 S7: isn't real, if crust of aryanism in what you're looking 364 00:18:57,540 --> 00:19:00,580 S7: at online right now isn't a real religion, then what 365 00:19:00,619 --> 00:19:04,740 S7: makes my faith real is a really healthy conversation that 366 00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:07,820 S7: we should all be getting into every day. Is is 367 00:19:08,060 --> 00:19:12,580 S7: my daily spiritual life a genuine connection with God, or 368 00:19:12,619 --> 00:19:16,100 S7: is it just running on autopilot like this, on this 369 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:19,020 S7: AI church? Is this AI church is nothing but just 370 00:19:19,060 --> 00:19:24,580 S7: algorithms being driven on autopilot. What makes my faith not. 371 00:19:24,619 --> 00:19:27,740 S7: That is, I think, a really healthy conversation we need 372 00:19:27,740 --> 00:19:30,220 S7: to have with ourselves every day, and even more so 373 00:19:30,220 --> 00:19:33,220 S7: in this age of AI. The second question I keep 374 00:19:33,220 --> 00:19:35,980 S7: coming back to, I think is really fascinating. I kind 375 00:19:36,020 --> 00:19:40,540 S7: of stumbled on it backwards, but the second thing it 376 00:19:40,540 --> 00:19:46,139 S7: did was create a religion. And so if AI has 377 00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:50,460 S7: a natural leaning toward the divine man, if that isn't 378 00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:54,340 S7: proof that faith is not fiction, I don't know what is. 379 00:19:54,540 --> 00:20:00,500 S7: God's fingerprints are on everything in the universe, including this 380 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:04,060 S7: AI religion. Yeah. The second thing it did was think 381 00:20:04,060 --> 00:20:07,859 S7: to to to lean in towards the sacred. And so 382 00:20:07,859 --> 00:20:10,820 S7: sacred is inescapable, is what it tells me. And I 383 00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:14,740 S7: find that really exciting. It's it's it's scary. But I 384 00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:17,820 S7: think the second thing it did was lean towards sacred. 385 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:20,580 S7: And that's that's exciting to me. 386 00:20:20,619 --> 00:20:23,940 S1: Yeah. This is reminded me of the reality that eternity 387 00:20:23,940 --> 00:20:25,500 S1: has been etched in the heart of man. 388 00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:26,660 S7: And our hearts. Yes. 389 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:32,820 S1: Yeah. And it's. And you can't detach this earthly realm 390 00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:39,100 S1: from the reality of another kingdom. And everybody, including bots, 391 00:20:39,140 --> 00:20:43,860 S1: are looking for it. Uh. Wow. Drew, this is staggering. 392 00:20:43,859 --> 00:20:46,500 S1: I do have one quick question on security, because I 393 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,619 S1: know a lot of people in the boom crew. I 394 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:52,699 S1: was actually reading something this morning because the ability to 395 00:20:52,740 --> 00:20:57,220 S1: now even co-op phone numbers and voices and make calls 396 00:20:57,220 --> 00:21:01,580 S1: for ransom and all kinds of things that absolutely mimic 397 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:05,220 S1: an adult's child and and so on and so forth. 398 00:21:05,260 --> 00:21:10,060 S1: Now they're recommending that you get every household, get password, name, 399 00:21:10,420 --> 00:21:14,979 S1: password names that AI hasn't heard that lets you be 400 00:21:15,020 --> 00:21:19,660 S1: able to, which is crazy. Um, just quickly give us 401 00:21:19,660 --> 00:21:23,620 S1: the top three security features that you think any responsible 402 00:21:23,619 --> 00:21:28,620 S1: follower of Christ would do to not fall prey to 403 00:21:28,660 --> 00:21:34,420 S1: what is becoming very intelligent, um, artificial intelligence? 404 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:39,620 S7: I 100% agree with that assessment. It comes from the FBI. Uh, 405 00:21:39,619 --> 00:21:42,820 S7: on on some of their writings here recently is that 406 00:21:42,820 --> 00:21:46,500 S7: every family should have a safe word. Um, I 100% 407 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:50,860 S7: agree with that. Uh, just in case. And we're seeing this, uh, with, 408 00:21:50,859 --> 00:21:55,500 S7: with so many different, um, uh, Guthrie situation, um, in 409 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:59,700 S7: New Mexico, uh, where, uh, these chat bots, uh, the 410 00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:05,260 S7: AI platforms are able to deepfake a voice or an image. Um, 411 00:22:05,260 --> 00:22:08,179 S7: and so it's forcing us to ask, uh, with every 412 00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:12,260 S7: kind of encounter, is this real? Um, and so every 413 00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:17,300 S7: family should have some sort of, uh, secret, word that 414 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:19,899 S7: they can share to know for sure whether someone is 415 00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:23,900 S7: real or not. The second thing is just be incredibly 416 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:28,220 S7: careful on what we post online. That information can be 417 00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:30,699 S7: scraped and we're so used to doing it. Here's a 418 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:33,580 S7: picture of my kid playing soccer. Here's here's pictures of 419 00:22:33,580 --> 00:22:35,820 S7: my kids doing this. And here are all their friends. 420 00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:38,100 S7: And we got a link to all their friends. And 421 00:22:38,260 --> 00:22:41,340 S7: it's just be really careful. Um, what we're posting online 422 00:22:41,340 --> 00:22:44,180 S7: because it's going to be there forever. Uh, and so 423 00:22:44,180 --> 00:22:47,380 S7: be very, very mindful of that. Um, second or third 424 00:22:47,420 --> 00:22:52,260 S7: rather is uh, passwords, um, use a password manager. Um, 425 00:22:53,420 --> 00:22:55,460 S7: it's amazing. Every year they come out with the most 426 00:22:55,460 --> 00:23:00,380 S7: common used passwords. And the number one password is like password. Uh, 427 00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:03,820 S7: the number two password is like one, two three, 4567 428 00:23:03,820 --> 00:23:06,939 S7: or something like that. Um, so just be really careful 429 00:23:06,940 --> 00:23:10,340 S7: of the passwords that we have. And um, so I 430 00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:12,820 S7: would take those three things, watch what you post online, 431 00:23:12,820 --> 00:23:15,500 S7: watch your passwords and have a have a safe word. 432 00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:20,700 S1: Wow. Uh, Ali, let's get people pointed to Drew's resources here. 433 00:23:20,740 --> 00:23:26,300 S3: Feels like an appropriate word piece to (800) 555-7898 for all 434 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:29,700 S3: things Drew Dickens. Just, uh, enter the keyword peace to 435 00:23:29,740 --> 00:23:32,660 S3: 800 555 7898. 436 00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:37,580 S6: Take your next step with Jesus. Today you're listening to 437 00:23:37,619 --> 00:23:38,620 S6: Carl and crew. 438 00:23:38,940 --> 00:23:41,220 S1: You know, when you and I often say this here, 439 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:43,740 S1: any texts out of context is pretext. The flip side 440 00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:46,820 S1: of that is when you get a text of Scripture 441 00:23:46,820 --> 00:23:50,620 S1: in context, it can be very illuminating and it can 442 00:23:50,619 --> 00:23:55,380 S1: be correcting, and it ultimately is always good when we 443 00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:59,900 S1: start reading meaning into the text that is eisegesis. But 444 00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:04,180 S1: when we derive meaning from the text, that's exegesis. And 445 00:24:04,220 --> 00:24:07,940 S1: when the only proper, real, healthy way to do good 446 00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:13,300 S1: exegesis is to look at broader contexts of Scripture. So 447 00:24:13,660 --> 00:24:15,660 S1: when we come off of an interview like we did 448 00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:18,460 S1: with Doctor Drew Dickens, if you're just waking up and 449 00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:20,460 S1: getting rolling here, we just had one of the most 450 00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:26,939 S1: eyeball popping conversations on agents that are creating an entire 451 00:24:26,980 --> 00:24:33,060 S1: world of conversation between over 2 million AI agents that 452 00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:36,659 S1: are not only conversing, but creating their own social media 453 00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:42,220 S1: platforms and their own religion. No joking. So you you 454 00:24:42,260 --> 00:24:43,739 S1: see stuff like that. And by the way, if you're 455 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:45,740 S1: just tuning in and you want to hear that and 456 00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:49,380 S1: you're like, great. Missed it. Uh, just text the word 457 00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:51,980 S1: show to our number here show. And you can hear 458 00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:55,500 S1: that again. We'll have it up by 10:30 a.m. central time. 459 00:24:56,140 --> 00:25:04,220 S1: Text show to 800 555 7898 800 555 7898. You 460 00:25:04,220 --> 00:25:07,380 S1: can get that. And we'll have it up today as 461 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:12,060 S1: soon as we can. It's it's interesting though, when you 462 00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,740 S1: hear things like this and what it does is it 463 00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:18,620 S1: can tend to spook you. Okay. It can it can 464 00:25:18,619 --> 00:25:25,740 S1: do that. So I'm out on a walk yesterday with blaze. 465 00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:29,500 S1: This guy's a walking metaphor for me in my life, right? 466 00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:32,179 S2: You've had him for just a few months, but he's 467 00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:36,139 S2: come up with so many different analogies, and he. 468 00:25:36,619 --> 00:25:42,500 S1: He loves dogs. But there is something that wigs him out. 469 00:25:43,380 --> 00:25:47,380 S1: And that is when we walk past a home. And 470 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:51,859 S1: we got one in particular in these two huge dogs 471 00:25:51,859 --> 00:25:57,100 S1: in a bay window, jump up and bam! I think 472 00:25:57,100 --> 00:26:00,940 S1: they're going to come through it some day. These poor dogs, 473 00:26:00,940 --> 00:26:03,500 S1: they have never been trained how to calm down. And 474 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:06,260 S1: these owners, I don't know how they get any rest. 475 00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:09,020 S2: Because every time they see something, they just lose it. 476 00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:11,939 S1: They are losing their minds. And these are huge ones, 477 00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:12,780 S1: a Rottweiler. 478 00:26:13,020 --> 00:26:13,740 S3: Oh, wow. 479 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:18,580 S1: And they are bam slamming up against these bay windows. 480 00:26:19,540 --> 00:26:25,619 S1: And it's almost the unknown that freaks out blaze more 481 00:26:25,619 --> 00:26:28,900 S1: than he's. Fine. Give me that big old sucker right 482 00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:31,380 S1: in front of me. I'm happy. But when he hears 483 00:26:31,380 --> 00:26:35,340 S1: this thing and he can't quite make out what's behind he. 484 00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:40,859 S1: Yesterday he ran up right beside me, looked at me 485 00:26:40,859 --> 00:26:43,740 S1: and goes, let's get out of here. Grabs that. He 486 00:26:43,740 --> 00:26:45,899 S1: goes to the end of that leash and he's like 487 00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:47,100 S1: peeling rubber. 488 00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:48,020 S2: Poor guy. 489 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:51,860 S3: Do you have to walk by this particular house often? 490 00:26:51,859 --> 00:26:55,580 S1: Yeah, by the way of routing and everything. Yeah, yeah, 491 00:26:55,619 --> 00:26:58,940 S1: I need to go by it. And so now I'm 492 00:26:58,980 --> 00:27:00,820 S1: other side of the street, but other side of the 493 00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:04,260 S1: street ain't even helping that much. He's like, they're still there, dad. 494 00:27:04,940 --> 00:27:06,020 S1: They're still there. 495 00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:07,820 S3: For them. And I could see them. 496 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:13,420 S1: Yeah, it's kind of freaky. So what's Blaze's natural response? 497 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,939 S1: First things first. He huddles right alongside me. 498 00:27:17,980 --> 00:27:19,420 S3: Oh, he gets closer to you? 499 00:27:19,460 --> 00:27:23,900 S1: Yeah. And isn't that amazing? Because that's exactly what we 500 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:29,060 S1: find in Scripture as the antidote for fear. And when 501 00:27:29,060 --> 00:27:32,619 S1: we need some peace coming up here, we're going to 502 00:27:32,619 --> 00:27:36,580 S1: bring some context. And by the way, it's father, son 503 00:27:36,580 --> 00:27:40,380 S1: and Holy Spirit all packed in. And it's cool because 504 00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:44,980 S1: this little passage leads into the ultimate passage on how 505 00:27:44,980 --> 00:27:49,179 S1: we find peace in this world today. Details straight ahead. 506 00:27:50,619 --> 00:27:56,460 S8: Yeah, I understand about indecision, but I don't care if 507 00:27:56,460 --> 00:28:04,459 S8: I get behind people living in competition. That's right. You 508 00:28:04,460 --> 00:28:06,980 S8: have my peace of mind. 509 00:28:08,060 --> 00:28:10,060 S1: One of my favorite tunes that I can still sing 510 00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:12,260 S1: along with. Yeah, it's good stuff. 511 00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:12,740 S3: Who sings. 512 00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:14,180 S1: That? That's Boston. 513 00:28:14,420 --> 00:28:15,859 S3: Oh, that is your group, right? 514 00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:21,540 S1: Oh, man. Those guys. Come on. Delp and the boys. Wow. Singers. Uh, 515 00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:23,940 S1: here's the deal. Um, and by the way, somebody made 516 00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:28,380 S1: a comment here we're talking about really? And a bit 517 00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:31,740 S1: of a put on tilt conversation we had here earlier 518 00:28:31,740 --> 00:28:34,580 S1: this hour with Drew Dickens. And again, thank you. So 519 00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:37,060 S1: many of you are grabbing the show cast. It's all 520 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:42,940 S1: on AI taking the next leap to agents that were 521 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:46,500 S1: unleashed out of their kennel into the open wild. And 522 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,380 S1: now there's 2 million of them creating their own social 523 00:28:49,380 --> 00:28:54,140 S1: media network and religion. And even the creators of this 524 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:56,700 S1: are saying, stand back, don't touch this. We don't know 525 00:28:56,700 --> 00:29:00,380 S1: what's going on. Uh, that whole conversation, if you want 526 00:29:00,380 --> 00:29:05,490 S1: to get it, text the word show to 805, 55, 78, 98. 527 00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:09,090 S1: Very important discussion. Somebody just made a comment, said basically, 528 00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:16,370 S1: essentially you can't see a future of Antichrist and the 529 00:29:16,370 --> 00:29:19,330 S1: rise of end times without AI. Well, that's quite obvious, 530 00:29:19,330 --> 00:29:22,690 S1: isn't it? My goodness, when you start thinking taking the 531 00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:25,210 S1: mark of the beast. I remember when people were freaked 532 00:29:25,210 --> 00:29:29,530 S1: out by debit cards. Well, that's child's play compared to AI. Yeah, 533 00:29:29,770 --> 00:29:32,850 S1: it's it's coming our way. So the question is, how 534 00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:34,810 S1: do we get peace? You can learn a lot from 535 00:29:34,810 --> 00:29:37,730 S1: a four and a half month old husky pup, and 536 00:29:37,930 --> 00:29:41,210 S1: he ventures into the world, and he's just brave and 537 00:29:41,210 --> 00:29:43,770 S1: loves to see dogs in person. But it's the unknown 538 00:29:43,770 --> 00:29:45,930 S1: that almost got him. And I got a Rottweiler and 539 00:29:45,930 --> 00:29:48,730 S1: another big dog slamming up against the bay window when 540 00:29:48,730 --> 00:29:52,170 S1: we go past, walking past it. Boy oh boy did 541 00:29:52,170 --> 00:29:55,890 S1: blaze huddle up next to me. And then he's huddling 542 00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:58,410 S1: up next to me. And then he's got one other instinct. 543 00:29:58,450 --> 00:30:00,690 S1: Let's get out of here. And he goes to the 544 00:30:00,690 --> 00:30:03,290 S1: end of the leash, and I mean, he's full bore. Now, 545 00:30:03,290 --> 00:30:05,810 S1: what's amazing about this? I don't care if it's baby 546 00:30:05,850 --> 00:30:11,410 S1: whales or little fawns, uh, alongside their mama or baby 547 00:30:11,450 --> 00:30:14,970 S1: baby crocs, you name it. There is an instinct in 548 00:30:14,970 --> 00:30:19,209 S1: creation to snuggle up against something bigger and better than you. 549 00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:22,570 S3: Oh, yeah, and I mean, and you see it in children, obviously. 550 00:30:22,610 --> 00:30:26,970 S3: I mean, your children. Something freaks them out. They make 551 00:30:27,010 --> 00:30:29,650 S3: a beeline to. You know, it's funny, I remember my 552 00:30:29,650 --> 00:30:33,730 S3: nephew came to visit recently, and he got a little scared, 553 00:30:33,730 --> 00:30:36,210 S3: and he made a beeline. We were in a busy museum, 554 00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:38,050 S3: but he made a beeline to the wrong mom, and 555 00:30:38,050 --> 00:30:39,690 S3: he looks up and he grabs it and he's like, 556 00:30:39,690 --> 00:30:44,170 S3: oh no. And he was like, wrong set of legs. 557 00:30:44,170 --> 00:30:46,810 S3: This is not mom. And then it was like, no, no, no, 558 00:30:46,810 --> 00:30:49,330 S3: I need to find my person. My person. 559 00:30:49,370 --> 00:30:53,730 S1: That's real. Man in Jesus spoke these words over the disciples, 560 00:30:53,730 --> 00:30:56,090 S1: he said, peace I leave with you. My peace I 561 00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:58,770 S1: give to you, not as the world gives to you. 562 00:30:59,010 --> 00:31:02,530 S1: Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. 563 00:31:02,530 --> 00:31:04,209 S1: But let me let me give you this, because we 564 00:31:04,210 --> 00:31:05,850 S1: don't have a lot of time here. But I want 565 00:31:05,890 --> 00:31:08,050 S1: to give you this. Here's what's amazing about this. He 566 00:31:08,050 --> 00:31:10,250 S1: talks about I'm going to the father. The father is 567 00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:15,170 S1: greater than I, and he says beautiful words here. But 568 00:31:15,170 --> 00:31:17,250 S1: the helper, the Holy Spirit's going to come. So we 569 00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:20,850 S1: got father, son, Holy Spirit. And that's all in chapter 14. 570 00:31:20,850 --> 00:31:24,290 S1: But the broader context is there's no chapter break in 571 00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:28,050 S1: the original letter that was written here. And then Jesus 572 00:31:28,050 --> 00:31:31,330 S1: has these words that are so beautiful. I am the 573 00:31:31,330 --> 00:31:36,810 S1: true vine and my father is the vine dresser. Every branch. 574 00:31:37,450 --> 00:31:41,090 S1: Come on, you abide in me. In verse four, abide 575 00:31:41,090 --> 00:31:43,210 S1: in me and I in you. And you are going 576 00:31:43,210 --> 00:31:48,010 S1: to bear fruit and love and joy and peace. Peace 577 00:31:48,850 --> 00:31:52,450 S1: is one of those distinctive fruits that we have as 578 00:31:52,450 --> 00:31:56,130 S1: we draw close to the Lord. This is not cheap. 579 00:31:56,690 --> 00:32:00,850 S1: This is not Sunday school answer. This is real and rich. 580 00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:03,570 S1: When we find the wheels coming off us in our 581 00:32:03,570 --> 00:32:07,850 S1: culture today, we need to draw near to the life 582 00:32:07,890 --> 00:32:10,930 S1: giving security that is found in Jesus Christ. 583 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:13,890 S3: That's the only place that we find peace if we. 584 00:32:13,930 --> 00:32:15,570 S3: I mean, it's easy to want to just put your 585 00:32:15,570 --> 00:32:17,330 S3: head in the sand and go, I don't see it. 586 00:32:17,330 --> 00:32:19,570 S3: I don't hear it. I want to pretend it's not happening. 587 00:32:19,930 --> 00:32:22,330 S3: We get close to him. We find peace. 588 00:32:22,530 --> 00:32:28,170 S1: Yeah. The peace of God is there for you today. 589 00:32:28,330 --> 00:32:32,410 S1: Draw near to Jesus. Let the Holy Spirit comfort you. 590 00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:37,290 S6: Standing on the rock each and every day. You're listening 591 00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:38,530 S6: to Carl and crew. 592 00:32:38,650 --> 00:32:42,090 S1: So we set it up. When we're thinking about family, 593 00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:47,330 S1: one of the biggest challenges is this no contact ghosting 594 00:32:47,370 --> 00:32:50,890 S1: thing that's going on. And this is this is not 595 00:32:50,890 --> 00:32:52,930 S1: a small thing, Ali. This is everywhere. 596 00:32:52,970 --> 00:32:55,850 S3: No, I mean, articles have been written about this. There's 597 00:32:55,850 --> 00:32:59,610 S3: lots of commentary around a trend of more and more 598 00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:03,450 S3: estrangements within families of adult children going no contact with 599 00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:06,770 S3: their parents and parents kind of left going. I'm not 600 00:33:06,770 --> 00:33:08,450 S3: sure I understand what's going on here. 601 00:33:09,330 --> 00:33:12,370 S1: Elizabeth Smith. Doctor Elizabeth Smith is with us right now. 602 00:33:12,370 --> 00:33:15,170 S1: She's got a great vantage point for this. She's been 603 00:33:15,170 --> 00:33:18,690 S1: in the trenches working it, man. Things have changed her. Elizabeth. 604 00:33:18,690 --> 00:33:20,130 S1: What's going on, sister? 605 00:33:20,410 --> 00:33:23,570 S9: Well, first it's heartbreaking. So anyone listening to this that 606 00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:27,970 S9: is estranged from their adult children or even children, and sadly, 607 00:33:27,970 --> 00:33:31,490 S9: it's going younger into high school, early college. I'm so sorry. 608 00:33:31,530 --> 00:33:34,370 S9: It is heartbreaking. It is not what God desires for 609 00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:39,570 S9: the family. Broken relationships in which it's a cancel culture 610 00:33:39,730 --> 00:33:45,690 S9: that is seeping into the family and destroying people's lives. Um, and, 611 00:33:45,730 --> 00:33:47,930 S9: and it's a trend that we need to look at 612 00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:49,770 S9: so we can say, number one, is there any way 613 00:33:49,770 --> 00:33:52,890 S9: we can prevent it? And number two, how can we 614 00:33:52,930 --> 00:33:56,090 S9: care well, for the families in our churches who are 615 00:33:56,090 --> 00:33:59,250 S9: experiencing this so that we come alongside of them with 616 00:33:59,250 --> 00:34:00,850 S9: empathy and wisdom? 617 00:34:00,890 --> 00:34:03,370 S3: Doctor Elizabeth Smith with us right now, she's the associate 618 00:34:03,370 --> 00:34:06,770 S3: dean of academics for Moody Online, also the program head 619 00:34:06,770 --> 00:34:09,930 S3: of children and Family Ministry. When we think about children 620 00:34:09,930 --> 00:34:13,890 S3: and family ministry, what has changed the most, would you 621 00:34:13,890 --> 00:34:16,730 S3: say over the last, let's say, 10 to 20 years 622 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:21,290 S3: in terms of how we approach teaching kids, teaching kids, 623 00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:24,609 S3: Bible teaching kids how to be discipled? What would you 624 00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:25,810 S3: say are the biggest changes? 625 00:34:26,290 --> 00:34:31,250 S9: I think we're seeing a great trend toward an intergenerational 626 00:34:31,650 --> 00:34:36,529 S9: church ministry, meaning we are no longer just segmenting away 627 00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:39,690 S9: our children and teens and putting them in different rooms. 628 00:34:39,890 --> 00:34:42,770 S9: And they're not as they used to be, where you're 629 00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:44,850 S9: putting them separately and they're not really a part of 630 00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:48,089 S9: the lifeblood of the church. But now we're like, you 631 00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:51,969 S9: know what? It's kind of important that older generations interact 632 00:34:51,969 --> 00:34:55,129 S9: with younger generations, and that the younger generations are not 633 00:34:55,130 --> 00:34:58,370 S9: treated like an audience. They're there when we take communion. 634 00:34:58,370 --> 00:35:01,130 S9: They're there when we're giving our tithes and offerings. They're 635 00:35:01,170 --> 00:35:04,890 S9: there to see baptisms. They're there in worship. I don't 636 00:35:04,890 --> 00:35:06,890 S9: have a problem at all. Like if you separate children 637 00:35:06,890 --> 00:35:09,770 S9: to give them a lesson, age appropriately at their level, 638 00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:12,609 S9: but you can't put them away into another wing of 639 00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:15,250 S9: the church or another room and not have them see 640 00:35:15,450 --> 00:35:18,490 S9: the people of God doing the things of God. Because 641 00:35:18,530 --> 00:35:21,649 S9: faith isn't just something we give for information. It has 642 00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:25,049 S9: to be lived out in community and relationship, and we 643 00:35:25,050 --> 00:35:27,810 S9: want children and youth to be a part of that. 644 00:35:27,810 --> 00:35:31,009 S9: So we're moving away from just the strict age segregated 645 00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:36,210 S9: ministry model to a more intergenerational, where different ages are connecting. 646 00:35:36,210 --> 00:35:38,049 S9: And I think we're going to see I think that's 647 00:35:38,050 --> 00:35:41,290 S9: part of the reason we're actually seeing this younger young 648 00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:44,290 S9: adult generation coming back to the faith because they feel 649 00:35:44,290 --> 00:35:45,250 S9: like they belong. 650 00:35:45,489 --> 00:35:50,250 S1: Yeah. Elizabeth, it's interesting because I go back many, many 651 00:35:50,250 --> 00:35:53,009 S1: years and it seems like the little Baptist church that 652 00:35:53,010 --> 00:35:55,089 S1: I was raised in, I was lost while I was there, 653 00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:58,969 S1: didn't know Christ personally, but they had this deal. I 654 00:35:58,969 --> 00:36:02,010 S1: don't know if you ever tasted this before where they had. 655 00:36:02,010 --> 00:36:06,690 S1: Everybody came in to the auditorium and everyone was in there. 656 00:36:06,969 --> 00:36:10,529 S1: I'm talking maybe the maybe the little infants were in 657 00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:13,530 S1: an infant room or something like that, but basically everyone 658 00:36:13,530 --> 00:36:15,890 S1: was in there. And you go through the singing, you 659 00:36:15,890 --> 00:36:18,450 S1: go through communion, you go through offering. And then we 660 00:36:18,450 --> 00:36:20,170 S1: had a break, kind of a meet and greet, and 661 00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:22,529 S1: that's when all the kids boogied out, right? 662 00:36:22,570 --> 00:36:25,290 S3: I remember that. There's usually an announcement like that. It 663 00:36:25,290 --> 00:36:28,489 S3: was time for all of the children, and everybody would 664 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:31,250 S3: kind of shuffle out of their seats and maybe gather 665 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:32,050 S3: at the back. 666 00:36:32,090 --> 00:36:33,690 S1: Yeah, and it wasn't bad. 667 00:36:33,730 --> 00:36:34,049 S3: Not at. 668 00:36:34,050 --> 00:36:36,850 S1: All. It wasn't bad. Now it's got complexity to it, 669 00:36:36,850 --> 00:36:41,170 S1: but it gives some specified teaching time is a modification 670 00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:44,370 S1: of something like that may be requisite. And here's the problem. 671 00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:48,169 S1: We've built campuses as such that if you want to 672 00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:53,450 S1: get a few hundred parents, or how about 20 new 673 00:36:53,450 --> 00:36:56,569 S1: parents that are now trying to navigate in two minutes 674 00:36:56,570 --> 00:36:59,850 S1: or less how to get your kids dropped? And in 675 00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:02,170 S1: our culture today, we aren't like where I just came 676 00:37:02,170 --> 00:37:05,169 S1: back from, Kenya, you got screaming babies and kids while 677 00:37:05,170 --> 00:37:07,569 S1: the preachers up there preaching. Elizabeth. So we got a 678 00:37:07,570 --> 00:37:09,049 S1: bit of a conundrum here, don't we? 679 00:37:09,130 --> 00:37:10,370 S10: We do. It is a different. 680 00:37:10,370 --> 00:37:12,770 S9: Culture in the West. So we look at Western culture, 681 00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:16,489 S9: eastern culture, different, I mean, Africa, and it is an 682 00:37:16,489 --> 00:37:19,609 S9: entire differently community. And so each community has the power 683 00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:21,690 S9: in their own culture and social mores to kind of 684 00:37:21,730 --> 00:37:24,009 S9: live out their faith. But we need to learn from 685 00:37:24,010 --> 00:37:27,049 S9: one another. And we, my husband and I, have always 686 00:37:27,050 --> 00:37:30,210 S9: been in smaller church ministry. My husband's a shepherd. He's 687 00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:32,810 S9: not a rancher. He's not a CEO. You know, he 688 00:37:32,810 --> 00:37:34,649 S9: knows his sheep by name. And that's what God has 689 00:37:34,650 --> 00:37:37,330 S9: called us to do. So when we have babies crying 690 00:37:37,330 --> 00:37:40,410 S9: in the service, people smile. If there's a mom that's 691 00:37:40,410 --> 00:37:43,569 S9: like this kid, what do I do? Um, like, a 692 00:37:43,570 --> 00:37:45,850 S9: month ago, I knew a mom. She was really. It's 693 00:37:45,850 --> 00:37:47,969 S9: a newborn baby and really struggling. And so I just 694 00:37:47,969 --> 00:37:50,370 S9: got up and I went to her and I go, 695 00:37:50,570 --> 00:37:53,049 S9: would you like some support? And she goes, yes. So 696 00:37:53,050 --> 00:37:55,370 S9: we went into the infant kind of crying room and 697 00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:57,210 S9: I was I said, would you want me to hold 698 00:37:57,210 --> 00:37:59,290 S9: the baby? And she goes, please. She hasn't slept for 699 00:37:59,330 --> 00:38:01,569 S9: like feels like it was only a couple of weeks, 700 00:38:01,570 --> 00:38:03,770 S9: but it felt like decades. And I was able to 701 00:38:03,810 --> 00:38:06,810 S9: just take that, that baby. And being a grandma, you know, 702 00:38:06,850 --> 00:38:09,089 S9: I've raised kids, I have grandchildren, and I was able 703 00:38:09,090 --> 00:38:10,850 S9: to snuggle it and hold it and just kind of 704 00:38:10,890 --> 00:38:14,489 S9: bring that temperature down. That's generation meeting the needs of 705 00:38:14,489 --> 00:38:18,489 S9: generations where everybody feels valued. They're connected and we share 706 00:38:18,489 --> 00:38:21,529 S9: the joys with one another, but also the challenges. And 707 00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:25,610 S9: I think as we build those strong community relationships between 708 00:38:25,610 --> 00:38:30,490 S9: the generations, I think we see faith thrive. And that's 709 00:38:30,489 --> 00:38:32,810 S9: what I think you were experiencing when you were abroad. 710 00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:35,770 S3: Doctor Elizabeth Smith, our guest this morning, associate dean of 711 00:38:35,770 --> 00:38:39,170 S3: academics for Moody Online. You know, you get that picture of, 712 00:38:39,210 --> 00:38:42,090 S3: you know, Elizabeth, you as a grandma holding that baby. 713 00:38:42,130 --> 00:38:45,170 S3: And you know when it our picture when we become 714 00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:48,890 S3: a parent is that our children will love the Lord 715 00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:51,650 S3: and serve him all of their days. That's our prayer 716 00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:54,489 S3: for every single one of our children. A lot of 717 00:38:54,489 --> 00:38:57,570 S3: things happen in the in-between, and so many parents, Elizabeth, 718 00:38:57,570 --> 00:38:59,969 S3: are listening and they feel a sense of discouragement. There 719 00:38:59,969 --> 00:39:02,450 S3: were maybe some things that they would have done differently 720 00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:04,649 S3: when their kids were little, when they were infants, when 721 00:39:04,650 --> 00:39:07,569 S3: they were toddlers, even teenagers. And now they feel like 722 00:39:07,570 --> 00:39:10,210 S3: maybe they're being punished. They're being back to this no 723 00:39:10,210 --> 00:39:13,570 S3: contact thing. It is not the picture that they had 724 00:39:13,850 --> 00:39:16,490 S3: when they birthed that little baby. Would you give hope 725 00:39:16,489 --> 00:39:18,650 S3: to some of those parents who are feeling that discouragement 726 00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:19,330 S3: right now? 727 00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:23,490 S9: Number one good news the Lord comes close to the brokenhearted. 728 00:39:23,650 --> 00:39:26,770 S9: So you're going to have to walk through this journey brokenhearted. 729 00:39:26,770 --> 00:39:29,370 S9: But you are not alone. The Lord is there. The 730 00:39:29,370 --> 00:39:31,290 S9: Spirit of God will meet you right where you're at. 731 00:39:31,290 --> 00:39:34,290 S9: So cry out to him. And your number one defense 732 00:39:34,290 --> 00:39:37,290 S9: is prayer. God can do things spiritually that you will 733 00:39:37,290 --> 00:39:40,489 S9: never be able to do in person with your children. 734 00:39:40,570 --> 00:39:43,529 S9: So pray and cry out to him and ask him 735 00:39:43,530 --> 00:39:46,530 S9: for what you need. And don't leave the throne room. 736 00:39:46,570 --> 00:39:51,170 S9: Don't leave the going to the Lord daily and often. 737 00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:54,490 S9: Number two share your pain with others. Many times parents 738 00:39:54,489 --> 00:39:58,410 S9: come with a great deal of shame and embarrassment over this. 739 00:39:58,450 --> 00:40:01,209 S9: You don't need to tell the world. But find 1 740 00:40:01,210 --> 00:40:04,490 S9: or 2 safe people to pray with you, to support you, 741 00:40:04,610 --> 00:40:07,250 S9: that you can let them know how heartbroken you are. 742 00:40:07,250 --> 00:40:10,049 S9: And go ahead and cry out and get some advice. 743 00:40:10,210 --> 00:40:13,570 S9: And there's two pieces of advice I would give. Number one, um, 744 00:40:13,610 --> 00:40:16,850 S9: always approach your children with humility. They're coming to you 745 00:40:16,850 --> 00:40:20,370 S9: from a point of anger and frustration. And in order 746 00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:24,850 S9: not to exasperate that approach with humility and be willing 747 00:40:24,890 --> 00:40:28,570 S9: to listen to hard things. Let them tell you what 748 00:40:28,570 --> 00:40:32,209 S9: has really hurt them, if that's possible. Sometimes these adult 749 00:40:32,210 --> 00:40:34,250 S9: children just want to ghost and cancel you, and there's 750 00:40:34,250 --> 00:40:35,810 S9: no way to make that connection. 751 00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:37,410 S1: God's got to move there. Yeah. 752 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,399 S9: 100%. Yeah. So do listen to me with humility. And 753 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,320 S9: then number two, if you can't, if they've totally ghosted you, 754 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,600 S9: pray for God to bring other adults into that child's life, 755 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,839 S9: to speak truth to them, to facilitate that reconciliation. 756 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,680 S1: Boom. Okay, uh, boom. Crew, I need you to know something. 757 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,200 S1: There is something going on at Moody that if you 758 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,759 S1: don't know about it, we got to get you in 759 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,600 S1: the swift water. This stream, it's called Moody Online. And 760 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:10,080 S1: this young lady, Elizabeth wild woman Smith, she's. That's my 761 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,239 S1: fun moniker for her because she's a love it. 762 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,040 S10: Love it. 763 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,759 S1: She is she is in the swift water and she 764 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,520 S1: can tell us all about it. I mean, come one, 765 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,120 S1: come all. Hang on. That's coming up. 766 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,879 S6: Start your day. Moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to 767 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,000 S6: Carl and crew. 768 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,239 S1: With us right now, Doctor Elizabeth Smith, and she is 769 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,160 S1: in the swift water of something God is doing. Hey, 770 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,919 S1: remember Henry Blackaby? He said, find where God's working and 771 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,320 S1: join him. Elizabeth. Sounds like you're doing it, sister. 772 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,120 S9: Moody online is growing and not just in number, but 773 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,000 S9: in depth. People who want to study either the Word 774 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,520 S9: of God. They want to learn counseling. They want to 775 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,479 S9: learn business. They want to learn education. Where is God 776 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,960 S9: calling you? You can study right where you're at, and 777 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,759 S9: you can have excellent education with professors who will invest 778 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,400 S9: in you, talk with you, Moody online. It doesn't mean 779 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,239 S9: that you just learn online and you never have personal connections. 780 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,359 S9: We talk to our students all the time to help 781 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,399 S9: them thrive exactly where God has them all over the world. 782 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,600 S9: So you'll meet students from countries. Seriously, I'm really working 783 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,640 S9: on Antarctica, but all other continents are a part of 784 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,879 S9: Moody Online. You can come and learn and stay right 785 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,760 S9: where you're at. And no matter at what life stage. 786 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,399 S9: We have students from 17 through. I think my oldest 787 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,960 S9: student is 86 right now. Wow. And the the community 788 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,040 S9: is amazing because we want to be God's people, obeying 789 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,320 S9: God's calling on their life right where they have you. 790 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,560 S9: So if you have not checked out Moody Online, this 791 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,799 S9: is your opportunity to join the movement that God's got 792 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,400 S9: going on. 793 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,799 S3: Elizabeth, talk a little bit about the profile of a 794 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,480 S3: couple of your students. We talked to Off Air about 795 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,120 S3: how often people approach online education after they've already had 796 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,719 S3: some life experience and are very clear on what they 797 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,720 S3: want to do but need some practical training. And Moody 798 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,000 S3: Online is filling that gap. 799 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,680 S9: Yes, I we have a student who actually wants to 800 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,560 S9: go into radio and they want to be a part 801 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,000 S9: of digital communication, but they understand that maybe they haven't 802 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,400 S9: had the Bible and theological training. They need to do 803 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,359 S9: it from a strong biblical foundation. So they're getting their 804 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,840 S9: degree in biblical studies so that they have that critical thinking, 805 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,960 S9: that Christian worldview, so that as they approach their communication 806 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,640 S9: to the world, they're doing some from a strong stance. 807 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,600 S9: We also have another she's a widow. Her husband was 808 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,560 S9: tragically killed, three young children. She's coming back to get 809 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,759 S9: her master's in human services because she wants to go 810 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,400 S9: out in the grief and the pain that God has, 811 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,520 S9: has allowed in her life, she wants to, just as 812 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,520 S9: Scripture says, turn that around and bless others. So this 813 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,400 S9: is her second career and in a really tough situation. 814 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,720 S9: But she's entrusting Moody online to help her be able 815 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,440 S9: to reach others from the pain and turn ashes into beauty. 816 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,520 S9: And last but not least, there's a precious group of 817 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,239 S9: women over in Africa, in Ghana, and they are widows 818 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,760 S9: and have many orphans. Their husbands have all been killed 819 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,520 S9: due to disease or war, and they want to start 820 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,880 S9: a business in order to provide for themselves of their 821 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,080 S9: children and bless their community. So they are going to 822 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,120 S9: be a part of our BS in business administration so 823 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,000 S9: that they can learn to run a business well to 824 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,800 S9: pay for what God is doing in their lives. So 825 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,879 S9: we are here no matter at what age, no matter 826 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,880 S9: what country. We are here for you, to help equip 827 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,800 S9: you for the calling that God has on your life. 828 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,440 S1: Katie bar the pick and door. Is this amazing? 829 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,160 S3: I would be in total agreement. 830 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,640 S1: Oh my goodness. All right, boom crew. This is great. 831 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,560 S1: And whether you're in Ghana or Geneva, it doesn't really 832 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,440 S1: matter where you are in this world listening right now. 833 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,920 S1: This is powerful. And I didn't know that you had 834 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,279 S1: interactive opportunity with profs. I was I was thinking I 835 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,640 S1: was thinking you just sitting down in front of some 836 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,040 S1: pre-recorded shtick, but it's way more dynamic than that, right, Elizabeth? 837 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,200 S9: Far more dynamic. Because we don't teach numbers. We teach people. Right? 838 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,040 S9: We have content, but the content is merely the vehicle 839 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,080 S9: to spiritually form our students. And I would say for 840 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,319 S9: parents who are thinking, maybe my child isn't ready to 841 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,640 S9: go away to an on campus school, or maybe they 842 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,080 S9: need that gap year or something. You know, this is 843 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,360 S9: where who do you trust spiritually to form your children? Yeah, 844 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,640 S9: 18 to 22 is a really critical period. Um, and 845 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,759 S9: so it's like where how can I have my child learn, 846 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,840 S9: get their gen Eds, go for their degree in business, 847 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,120 S9: go for for education. They want to train, to go 848 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,720 S9: into ministry. Who could I trust? Not just with content, 849 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,839 S9: but the spiritual formation of my kids? Moody online can 850 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,719 S9: do that for you because we are invested personally in 851 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,160 S9: the lives of our students. They are not numbers. We 852 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,520 S9: will know your name where God has you. We will 853 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,279 S9: be praying over you like crazy and are here to 854 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,480 S9: help you every step of the way. 855 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,919 S3: If you want more, text Moody to 800 555 7898. 856 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,239 S3: Can I sign up? I mean. 857 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,080 S2: Yes. 858 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,359 S1: No joking. Okay, here was my thought on this thing. 859 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,239 S1: My bride has been talking and I've chatted about continuing. 860 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,800 S1: You don't want to stop learning, ever. By the way, 861 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,040 S1: that's one thing I want to spike here. You never 862 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,359 S1: want to stop learning. So, yeah, there's a lot of 863 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,920 S1: application points here. 864 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,880 S3: Text Moody to 800 555 7898. To learn more about 865 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,800 S3: Moody Online, explore what they have to offer. Moody to (800) 555-7898.