WEBVTT - Hour 1: Truth in Love 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.800 Hi friend, thank you so much for downloading this podcast 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:06.920 and I truly hope you hear something that edifies encourage, equips, enlightens, 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.520 and then gets you out there in the marketplace of ideas. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.440 But before you go, I want to tell you about 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.680 this month's truth tool. It's called Have You Ever Wondered? 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.720 And I absolutely love this topic because if you're like me, 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.600 going out into the night sky and looking up and 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.439 seeing a million stars, don't you just stop and think 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.560 about God? And are you not in a moment of 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.960 awe and wonder or looking out over the vast expanse 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.600 of an ocean and you start thinking, what is man, 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:32.800 that thou art mindful of him? And it makes you 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.240 wonder about the magnificence of God? I think that sense 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.480 of wonder was put there on purpose, and this wonderful 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.720 book includes a composite of multiple authors who have written 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.879 from their perspective as a scientist, or a historian, or 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.160 a mathematician or an artist, on why they all have 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.599 this sense of awe through the work that they do. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.120 In other words, the heavens declare the glory. And as 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.440 it tells us in Romans, we are really without excuse 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:00.150 because his handiwork is everywhere. 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Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. 0:02:24.060 --> 0:02:26.940 Thank you so much for spending the hour together. Okay. 0:02:26.940 --> 0:02:29.860 We're going to tackle that tough subject that is all 0:02:29.860 --> 0:02:31.940 around us, whether we want to talk about it or not. 0:02:31.940 --> 0:02:35.220 And I have to tell you, I'm pretty sure that 0:02:35.220 --> 0:02:39.060 the church didn't start this discussion, but it's imperative that 0:02:39.060 --> 0:02:42.780 we join in this discussion. And that's the issue of 0:02:42.780 --> 0:02:46.220 human sexuality. You know, I can tell you, I remember 0:02:46.220 --> 0:02:47.660 a time when you would have no more heard the 0:02:47.660 --> 0:02:50.700 word human sexuality over Christian radio than, you know, I 0:02:50.700 --> 0:02:53.299 pledge allegiance to the Communist flag. We wouldn't have been 0:02:53.300 --> 0:02:56.220 talking about those things, but we've matured, and I think 0:02:56.330 --> 0:02:58.970 we've also discovered that for the cause of the cross, 0:02:58.970 --> 0:03:01.450 we cannot be ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 0:03:01.450 --> 0:03:04.049 Any part of it, any part of it, including but 0:03:04.050 --> 0:03:06.370 not limited to the part about sex. Because, you know, 0:03:06.410 --> 0:03:08.010 I guess it's going to come as a shock. Grab 0:03:08.010 --> 0:03:11.770 the smelling salts. It was God who designed sex. Yeah. 0:03:11.810 --> 0:03:14.410 Not the world. It was God. So is it important 0:03:14.410 --> 0:03:16.649 to God? Well, he made it. And then he put 0:03:16.650 --> 0:03:19.530 it exactly where it's supposed to be. In a relationship 0:03:19.530 --> 0:03:23.130 between a husband and a wife, defined without any ambiguity 0:03:23.250 --> 0:03:26.049 as a husband and a wife, a male and a female. 0:03:26.530 --> 0:03:28.370 That was, by the way, for the record, Your honor, 0:03:28.370 --> 0:03:31.250 in a place of perfection. Well, then along comes a serpent, 0:03:31.290 --> 0:03:34.010 a serpent, and then we exercise free will. And then 0:03:34.010 --> 0:03:37.050 by man came death. And the sin of the world 0:03:37.050 --> 0:03:40.330 came in from the first Adam. Thank you. God was 0:03:40.330 --> 0:03:43.450 taken care of by the second Adam, Jesus Christ. But 0:03:43.450 --> 0:03:45.890 in the meantime, since we do live currently, check your 0:03:45.890 --> 0:03:48.570 mailing address. East of Eden. We are struggling with the 0:03:48.570 --> 0:03:52.410 area of human sexuality. So whether it's adultery, whether it's 0:03:52.410 --> 0:03:56.630 premarital sex, whether it's cohabitation, whether it's polyamory, whether it's 0:03:56.630 --> 0:03:59.750 man boy love, whether it's same sex attraction, whether it's 0:03:59.750 --> 0:04:02.910 I woke up in the wrong body any iteration you want. Satan, 0:04:02.910 --> 0:04:08.510 by the way, is unbelievably creative, with a dull colored palette. 0:04:08.510 --> 0:04:10.870 And so he's going to take everything that God made 0:04:10.870 --> 0:04:13.310 in perfection, and he's going to adulterate it as best 0:04:13.310 --> 0:04:17.589 he can. Because after all, he says with his tail rattling, 0:04:17.589 --> 0:04:20.910 did God really say, well, yep, he did. And that's 0:04:20.910 --> 0:04:23.270 what we're going to talk about this hour, this whole hour. 0:04:23.270 --> 0:04:25.429 And we're going to answer your questions. Because, folks, there's 0:04:25.430 --> 0:04:28.310 a lot of confusion outside the church. But you know 0:04:28.310 --> 0:04:31.430 what really gets me? It's the confusion working its way 0:04:31.790 --> 0:04:34.910 into the church. What's a third way? What's the other way? 0:04:34.910 --> 0:04:38.510 What's AJ6. What is that? There's all these. What's a 0:04:38.510 --> 0:04:42.109 gay Christian movement out there? I don't get that. God's 0:04:42.110 --> 0:04:43.950 word is pretty clear. I'm not that smart. But I 0:04:43.950 --> 0:04:46.670 can read black ink on white paper. And I can 0:04:46.670 --> 0:04:49.469 also tell you that we love and serve a God 0:04:49.470 --> 0:04:51.910 who can take care of whatever our problems are. How 0:04:51.910 --> 0:04:54.500 do I know that? because in that letter to the 0:04:54.500 --> 0:04:56.620 Corinthian church, an area, by the way, that was dealing 0:04:56.620 --> 0:05:00.380 with sexual immorality, in fact, when a culture became so 0:05:00.660 --> 0:05:04.740 paganistic and its sexuality, they were called being Corinthian ized. Ooh, 0:05:04.860 --> 0:05:07.659 not a compliment. So in his first letter to the Corinthians, 0:05:07.660 --> 0:05:10.500 Paul writes, and that is what some of you were. 0:05:10.540 --> 0:05:14.140 Pause on those words. That's why the activists and the 0:05:14.140 --> 0:05:17.940 LGBT and whatever other alphabet letters you want movement add 0:05:17.980 --> 0:05:21.179 on to. They don't like that story, because what they're 0:05:21.180 --> 0:05:24.180 doing is trying to deny the fact that there has 0:05:24.180 --> 0:05:27.180 been an alienation of affections, and God can redirect and 0:05:27.180 --> 0:05:29.659 change your heart and give you the desires of your heart. 0:05:29.660 --> 0:05:33.419 That's why such were not are were some of you? 0:05:33.420 --> 0:05:37.660 But but you were washed. This is my wash, rinse 0:05:37.660 --> 0:05:40.700 and spin cycle of Scripture I love this. You were washed, 0:05:40.860 --> 0:05:43.340 you were sanctified. You were justified in the name of 0:05:43.339 --> 0:05:45.900 the Lord Jesus Christ and by the spirit of our God. 0:05:45.940 --> 0:05:48.300 Is there hope? You betcha. And that's what we're going 0:05:48.300 --> 0:05:49.940 to talk about this hour. But first, a couple of things. 0:05:49.940 --> 0:05:52.650 We'll open the phone lines. Your chance to ask any question. 0:05:52.650 --> 0:05:54.090 You had a child come to you and say, mom, 0:05:54.089 --> 0:05:55.370 I think I'm gay. What are you going to do 0:05:55.370 --> 0:05:57.450 about it? You got a relative that says you're coming 0:05:57.450 --> 0:05:59.450 to my same sex wedding. You've got someone in church 0:05:59.450 --> 0:06:01.250 who says, but I was born this way and God 0:06:01.250 --> 0:06:03.650 doesn't make mistakes. And then you've got someone who says, 0:06:03.650 --> 0:06:05.930 But God tells us to love everybody. So I'm sure 0:06:05.930 --> 0:06:08.170 that you love the transgender and you're going to use 0:06:08.170 --> 0:06:10.729 my appropriate pronouns. Does it get messy? You betcha. But 0:06:10.730 --> 0:06:13.570 when all else fails, read the instructions. So we're going 0:06:13.570 --> 0:06:15.530 to give you a chance to ask any question you 0:06:15.529 --> 0:06:19.290 have this hour on this whole LGBTQ ad, whatever alphabet 0:06:19.290 --> 0:06:21.810 letters you want, because it's time for us to get 0:06:21.850 --> 0:06:23.970 really back to the word and find out what the 0:06:23.970 --> 0:06:32.130 word has to say. (877) 548-3675. Questions only (877) 548-3675. And you 0:06:32.130 --> 0:06:33.929 know who's going to answer the questions for you this hour. 0:06:33.970 --> 0:06:37.770 And Edward. And I'm so glad because Anne understands this story. 0:06:37.810 --> 0:06:41.530 She is that First Corinthians and such were some of you. 0:06:41.529 --> 0:06:44.210 And God takes this person who was a were and 0:06:44.210 --> 0:06:46.610 now is and is, and him, where she has been 0:06:46.610 --> 0:06:51.440 defined by his imputed righteousness, And she now helps minister 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.080 to people who struggle with unwanted same sex attraction. And so, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.640 for more than two decades, she has served as an author, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.640 a speaker, a spokesperson and an advocate for men and 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.120 women who do struggle in this area. And that's why 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.919 she has the role as executive director of restored Hope network. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.680 That's a conglomeration, if you will, of ministries that deal 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.880 with this subject. And boy, have we got an exciting 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.080 announcement to make about what's happening in the next couple 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.680 of days that I want you to hear about. Her mission, 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.080 quite literally, is leading the organization to restore hope to 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:24.360 those broken by sexual and relationships, and especially those impacted 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.880 by homosexuality. She is the author of Restoring Sexual Identity 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.200 Hope for Women Who Struggle with Same Sex Attraction, and 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.120 co-author of Love Won Out. She has also written for 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.520 spirit LED Woman, charisma and the Gospel Coalition and My Friend, 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.160 Pull Up a Chair. We have so much to talk about. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.560 But you know what? Right out of the gate, I'm 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.040 going to come up to a break soon. And I 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.040 don't care how long it takes us. I really want 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.600 my friends to know about what's coming up at the 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.110 Hope 2025 conference. We're going to talk about this a 0:07:51.110 --> 0:07:53.790 lot because the key verse for the conference is that 0:07:53.790 --> 0:07:56.910 verse right out of First Corinthians. And that's why you're 0:07:56.910 --> 0:08:01.070 calling it Hope 2025. And the theme is washed. Tell 0:08:01.070 --> 0:08:02.710 me about this virtual conference. 0:08:03.390 --> 0:08:06.750 Hello, Janet. It's so good to hear your voice. One 0:08:06.790 --> 0:08:09.070 on one here, right in front of all of your audience. 0:08:09.070 --> 0:08:11.270 What a delight to be with you. Thank you for 0:08:11.270 --> 0:08:15.430 having me. Um. Washed is going to be about Jesus 0:08:15.470 --> 0:08:20.430 washing away our sins by his blood. And it's about 0:08:20.430 --> 0:08:23.190 how to find hope and healing for those who are 0:08:23.190 --> 0:08:29.070 dealing with gender dysphoric issues or same sex attraction issues. Um, 0:08:29.070 --> 0:08:33.910 and so yes, we're handling all topics LGBT. Um, also 0:08:33.950 --> 0:08:38.910 talking about, um, how to create grace based environments within 0:08:38.910 --> 0:08:43.270 church situations so that people can encounter the love and 0:08:43.270 --> 0:08:46.750 mercy and forgiveness of Jesus as they walk through this stuff. 0:08:47.140 --> 0:08:52.220 And so we're even handling overcoming sexualized media addiction, otherwise 0:08:52.220 --> 0:08:55.579 known as porn. Wow. So it's a it's a pretty 0:08:55.580 --> 0:09:00.500 intense week that will be amazing offerings for people who 0:09:00.500 --> 0:09:01.580 are looking for help. 0:09:01.780 --> 0:09:03.740 Well, the reason I'm excited about this and we're going 0:09:03.780 --> 0:09:05.300 to get more details on the other side of the 0:09:05.300 --> 0:09:07.820 break is it's virtual, which means, you know, so often 0:09:07.820 --> 0:09:10.740 when you're talking to a national audience, it's frustrating and 0:09:10.740 --> 0:09:13.819 at some level unkind to talk about a conference that's 0:09:13.820 --> 0:09:15.939 the other side of the country that you can never attend, 0:09:15.940 --> 0:09:19.300 and there's no way to watch virtually. But I didn't walk. 0:09:19.300 --> 0:09:21.460 I ran to an because I wanted her to talk 0:09:21.460 --> 0:09:23.380 about this, because there isn't a person within the sound 0:09:23.380 --> 0:09:26.380 of my voice who can't attend this conference because it's 0:09:26.380 --> 0:09:29.540 that virtual. So now you got a bunch of questions, 0:09:29.540 --> 0:09:31.179 don't you? Right. You want to know when and how 0:09:31.220 --> 0:09:32.699 and where and what we're going to tell you all 0:09:32.700 --> 0:09:35.260 that when we return. But don't forget, after we talk 0:09:35.300 --> 0:09:38.380 about this conference, Anna's going to answer your questions on this. Okay. 0:09:38.420 --> 0:09:41.459 On human sexuality, what the conference is covering what she 0:09:41.460 --> 0:09:43.820 does daily in the ministry that God has called her to. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:49.440 77 5483675. Questions only. That's our number. We want to 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:56.680 hear from you back after this. The questions that matter 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.680 most often come while watching a sunset, or listening to music, 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.480 or looking into the night sky. That's why I've chosen. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.319 Have you ever wondered, as this month's truth tool, God 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.080 draws us to himself through a sense of awe and wonder, 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.320 and this book will help you discover how. As for 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.200 your copy of Have you ever wondered when you give 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:16.280 a gift of any amount in the market, call eight 7758. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.880 That's eight 7758 or go to in the market with 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:24.560 Janet Parshall? Oh, we got a lot of people online 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.640 with questions. I just love the way you respond. And 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.679 thank you, God, for raising up wonderful teachers like an Edward. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.560 We're talking about same sex attraction, the alphabet soup, trans, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.880 that whole stuff. But from a biblical perspective. Oh you betcha. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.080 It's being talked about in the marketplace of ideas. But 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.480 as soldiers of the cross, ambassadors for Christ, followers of 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.510 the king. What does he say? What are his values? 0:10:46.510 --> 0:10:48.510 What does he want us to say to a hurting 0:10:48.510 --> 0:10:51.110 culture on this particular topic? And that's why we're taking 0:10:51.110 --> 0:10:55.429 questions (877) 548-3675. We're going to do that in a bit. 0:10:55.429 --> 0:10:57.270 Thank you for your patience, friends, but I really want 0:10:57.270 --> 0:11:01.110 you to hear about the Hope 2025 conference entitled washed 0:11:01.150 --> 0:11:04.710 right out of that verse in First Corinthians. So and 0:11:04.710 --> 0:11:07.270 it is virtual. So now it's it's the 20th and 0:11:07.270 --> 0:11:10.190 the 21st. I have this right. So now that raises 0:11:10.190 --> 0:11:12.070 the question where do I go to get it. How 0:11:12.070 --> 0:11:14.270 do I sign up. Tell me the particulars. 0:11:14.790 --> 0:11:21.790 Absolutely. You go to our website which is restored hope network.org. Sorry, 0:11:22.230 --> 0:11:28.190 I almost blew it. Restored hope network.org. Um, and so 0:11:28.350 --> 0:11:31.030 once you go there you click on events and it 0:11:31.030 --> 0:11:33.470 is the Hope conference. It will have all the details 0:11:33.470 --> 0:11:37.989 of the speakers, what the sample schedule is, the simply 0:11:38.150 --> 0:11:41.950 the abbreviated schedule, um, and also the link to register. 0:11:42.260 --> 0:11:48.100 so the cost is $125 to attend. Um, which is 0:11:48.100 --> 0:11:51.900 a lot less than an in-person conference, which is wonderful. Um, 0:11:51.900 --> 0:11:53.980 the other thing, too, is, Janet, we want to give 0:11:53.980 --> 0:11:56.620 your listeners a 10% off code. 0:11:56.660 --> 0:11:58.020 Oh, wow. Thank you. 0:11:58.500 --> 0:12:02.620 So if they register, enter this into the code area. 0:12:02.660 --> 0:12:06.340 After you pick your general registration and you scroll down, 0:12:06.340 --> 0:12:09.620 it offers an option to type in a code. And 0:12:09.620 --> 0:12:12.260 that code is Janet. We're just going to use your 0:12:12.260 --> 0:12:15.940 first name. So there you go. I thought about all 0:12:15.980 --> 0:12:20.940 the other abbreviations that we decided on. Janet. So, um, yeah, 0:12:20.940 --> 0:12:23.980 if you just go there and you choose, that'll give 0:12:23.980 --> 0:12:29.020 you 10% off. It'll knock 10% off that cost. Wow. Um, yeah. 0:12:29.059 --> 0:12:31.460 And I'm not. I'm not. I want you to hit 0:12:31.460 --> 0:12:33.939 all the financial reimbursement to run a conference like this. 0:12:33.940 --> 0:12:35.500 But I just want to talk about the price for 0:12:35.500 --> 0:12:37.460 a minute. You know, if a husband and wife are 0:12:37.460 --> 0:12:40.020 going together, it's still 125. They're sitting in front of 0:12:40.020 --> 0:12:42.290 the same computer. Right. So I want you to figure 0:12:42.290 --> 0:12:44.250 that for the cost of the conference. So when you 0:12:44.250 --> 0:12:46.330 start thinking, well, if we had to pay individually to 0:12:46.330 --> 0:12:48.050 get into a conference, which you would, by the way, 0:12:48.050 --> 0:12:50.890 you can't do that when you're an in-person conference. But 0:12:50.890 --> 0:12:52.810 this is a cost that might be more manageable if 0:12:52.809 --> 0:12:54.850 you think, well, it's a husband and wife or a 0:12:54.850 --> 0:12:58.370 parent and a child or however iteration you do it, 0:12:58.410 --> 0:13:02.090 it's that access to the virtual conference. So thank you Anne. 0:13:02.130 --> 0:13:05.089 Restored Hope network. Org. By the way, I've made this 0:13:05.090 --> 0:13:06.730 real easy for you. I got a direct link on 0:13:06.730 --> 0:13:09.810 my information page. So if you're preparing dinner or you're 0:13:09.809 --> 0:13:11.970 stuck in traffic, it's all there in the info page. 0:13:11.970 --> 0:13:13.490 You try to make it easy for you, click it 0:13:13.490 --> 0:13:17.170 on and it's this Friday and Saturday. So people are going, 0:13:17.210 --> 0:13:18.929 wait a minute, I work on Friday. How much would 0:13:18.929 --> 0:13:21.650 I miss? So what are the hours for Friday and Saturday? 0:13:21.929 --> 0:13:25.770 Great question. It does start at 9 a.m. Denver time, 0:13:25.770 --> 0:13:29.650 mountain time. But the nice thing about this conference is 0:13:29.650 --> 0:13:31.969 you can either listen to it in your ear if 0:13:31.970 --> 0:13:34.969 you're able to do that while you work, or you 0:13:34.970 --> 0:13:39.280 can watch it immediately afterwards so you can join the 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.640 live conference on Saturday if that's what your schedule looks like. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.760 And then listen immediately to the Friday part on Sunday 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.600 or any other day you desire. It will not be 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:55.600 loaded up onto YouTube and our other media outlet until 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.800 probably January. So this gives you a window of six 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.359 months that you have access to this material, these materials 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.880 that you wouldn't otherwise have. Excellent. Um, so yes, there 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.520 are a bunch of benefits to that. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:08.880 Okay. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.880 The other thing, too, is that we have a watch party. Um, 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.160 we actually have eight watch parties around the country that 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.240 are happening. So if they they miss the in-person aspect 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.680 and they want to go to one. Well, we actually 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:27.400 have one in Spokane, Washington, near Detroit, Michigan, and Bella Vista, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:33.320 Arkansas and Rockford, Illinois, Oklahoma City, up near a not 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:37.830 to bury, but it'll be in Orlando, Florida. Conyers, Georgia, 0:14:39.150 --> 0:14:43.790 near Boston, Massachusetts. Um, and so they can also join 0:14:43.790 --> 0:14:45.550 one of those, but they'd have to reach out to 0:14:45.590 --> 0:14:48.630 us right away to get the info about how to 0:14:48.630 --> 0:14:50.910 join an in-person watch party. 0:14:50.950 --> 0:14:51.950 And that's where a group. 0:14:51.950 --> 0:14:52.350 Of. 0:14:52.550 --> 0:14:55.470 And that's a group of people watching together right in 0:14:55.470 --> 0:14:56.750 the same place physically. 0:14:56.790 --> 0:15:00.270 We. That's right. We sent watch party boxes. So they 0:15:00.270 --> 0:15:02.590 have a bunch of different ideas of how to host 0:15:02.870 --> 0:15:05.950 a watch party. It's like hosting another event, but you 0:15:05.950 --> 0:15:10.510 have the content from our conference that's being broadcast. Um, 0:15:10.550 --> 0:15:14.310 one of the one of the churches that's hosting us in, uh, 0:15:14.350 --> 0:15:19.110 Bella Vista, Arkansas, is a very large Southern Baptist church, 0:15:19.110 --> 0:15:22.070 and they're going to have seats for about 250 people. 0:15:22.070 --> 0:15:27.630 They're expecting over 150 to just that one watch party. Wow. 0:15:27.630 --> 0:15:29.430 So we shall see. 0:15:30.110 --> 0:15:32.670 That's that's awesome. All right. So let me just give 0:15:32.670 --> 0:15:34.470 you the flyover again. We're going to talk about it 0:15:34.470 --> 0:15:37.220 a lot because Anne was gracious. This is short notice. 0:15:37.220 --> 0:15:39.620 This comfort starts on Friday. So it's this week. I'm 0:15:39.620 --> 0:15:41.260 pretty sure she had a million and a half things 0:15:41.260 --> 0:15:43.100 to do. So for her to come and give me 0:15:43.100 --> 0:15:45.420 an hour of her time to take your questions, I 0:15:45.460 --> 0:15:47.980 just treasure. But most importantly, I wanted you to know 0:15:47.980 --> 0:15:50.460 about this conference because this is where you're going to 0:15:50.460 --> 0:15:52.740 get people who will answer these kinds of questions. Just 0:15:52.740 --> 0:15:54.860 quick fly over some of the topics the speakers are 0:15:54.860 --> 0:15:55.540 going to talk about. 0:15:55.540 --> 0:15:59.980 An absolutely. Jonathan Dougherty from Be Broken in Texas is 0:15:59.980 --> 0:16:04.060 going to be talking about overcoming sexualized media addiction. He's 0:16:04.060 --> 0:16:08.020 also going to be covering creating grace based environments for health, 0:16:08.180 --> 0:16:12.020 for hope and healing. Doctor Angeles is going to be 0:16:12.020 --> 0:16:15.580 speaking on trauma and the impact on spirit, soul and body. 0:16:15.620 --> 0:16:19.100 She also has a keynote that she'll be covering identity theft. 0:16:19.100 --> 0:16:22.860 What a great title. Yes, because that is in how 0:16:22.860 --> 0:16:26.940 to align with Christ. Christ centered identity. So she's going 0:16:26.980 --> 0:16:30.420 to be tying that all together. Um, Doctor Linda Seiler, 0:16:30.460 --> 0:16:35.880 PhD will be, um, covering accommodating celibate gay theology. A 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:40.600 deceptive path it's the side B Christianity. Side A is 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.000 generally the pro gay side. And then they contrast it 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:50.440 with so-called side B. And that essentially is nearly gay Christianity. 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.720 All it does is it say abstain, but you can 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:58.000 adopt a gay identity. What's deceptive about that? Hello, Tyler. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:58.760 Exactly. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:16:59.800 We'll be covering that. 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.400 So those are just a few. Okay. So again, it's 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.800 restored hope network. I have this on my website, but 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:11.200 if you're thinking about going directly. Great. Restored hope network. Org. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.840 There's an events tab. You click that on and then 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.479 you'll see Hope conference 2025. And again the theme is 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:22.320 called wash starts this Friday. And it'll be Friday and Saturday. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.439 And boy to have godly people rise up and talk 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.520 biblically about this. Not try to be the book of James, 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.840 a double minded man, unstable in all his ways. We've 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.109 got a foot in both worlds. It just doesn't work. 0:17:33.350 --> 0:17:37.710 It's grace filled narrative. Grace always is the narrative. Seasoned. 0:17:37.710 --> 0:17:40.350 The Bible said with salt. It's not an either or. 0:17:40.550 --> 0:17:54.830 It's a both end. Back after this. Okay, friends, from 0:17:54.830 --> 0:17:57.869 here it is your questions to an Edward, who is 0:17:57.869 --> 0:18:01.590 the executive director of restored Hope network. Questions you've got 0:18:01.790 --> 0:18:04.950 on same sex attraction transgenderism. The list goes on and 0:18:04.990 --> 0:18:11.350 on and on. (877) 548-3675. I'm going to Ohio first and 0:18:11.350 --> 0:18:13.590 Marlena is with us first. Thank you so much for 0:18:13.590 --> 0:18:15.510 being here. And your question for Ann, please. 0:18:16.590 --> 0:18:20.909 Yes. My step granddaughter is scheduled to get married to 0:18:20.950 --> 0:18:25.590 another woman in September, and she sent me a an 0:18:25.630 --> 0:18:30.030 invitation to the wedding. She knows where I stand with 0:18:30.030 --> 0:18:34.580 my faith in God. My question is, do I go 0:18:34.580 --> 0:18:38.340 to the wedding? Which could mean that I condone what's 0:18:38.340 --> 0:18:42.180 going on? How do I handle this as a Christian 0:18:42.180 --> 0:18:42.780 in love? 0:18:43.980 --> 0:18:49.379 Wonderful question. A very frequently asked question, unfortunately. The first 0:18:49.380 --> 0:18:53.660 thing is you're taking this seriously for a reason. When 0:18:53.660 --> 0:18:58.379 you go to a wedding, they often will say that 0:18:58.780 --> 0:19:02.980 the people who are attending are giving witness to the union. 0:19:03.180 --> 0:19:05.580 So it is a very weighty thing to take into 0:19:05.580 --> 0:19:09.820 account before God, before God and man, that kind of bond. 0:19:10.300 --> 0:19:13.580 So one thing I would say is if you determine 0:19:13.580 --> 0:19:16.780 after our conversation that you cannot go to the wedding 0:19:17.220 --> 0:19:20.180 or you go with conditions, you would need to talk 0:19:20.180 --> 0:19:23.340 with your your step granddaughter ahead of time and let 0:19:23.340 --> 0:19:25.940 her know that this is what you mean and this 0:19:25.940 --> 0:19:30.050 is what you do not mean, or that you cannot come. 0:19:30.050 --> 0:19:33.050 And here's why. But you love her and you want 0:19:33.050 --> 0:19:37.850 to be in relationship with your step granddaughter. So those 0:19:37.850 --> 0:19:40.169 are a couple of the challenges coming up. One is, 0:19:40.609 --> 0:19:44.130 standing in as a believer in a wedding means you're 0:19:44.130 --> 0:19:49.290 standing in the place of you're representing Jesus in that location. 0:19:49.650 --> 0:19:54.690 Would Jesus attend someone marrying their their sibling with Jesus? 0:19:54.690 --> 0:19:57.890 Attend a wedding with two women marrying a man or 0:19:57.930 --> 0:20:02.250 vice versa? Um, clearly no. He would call them people 0:20:02.250 --> 0:20:04.810 out of sin, or he would be there and convict 0:20:04.810 --> 0:20:07.530 of sin and they would repent. So those are the 0:20:07.530 --> 0:20:10.570 kinds of things that we expect when Jesus is involved, 0:20:11.730 --> 0:20:16.570 when we step into a situation according to First Corinthians six, 0:20:16.930 --> 0:20:21.010 we're actually bearing with us in our bodies and our 0:20:21.010 --> 0:20:24.730 temples the Holy Spirit. And so we do represent God 0:20:24.730 --> 0:20:28.480 in that scenario. So it's very important to take this seriously. 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:35.679 We actually have, um, in 2023, doctor Robert Gagnon, a 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:40.399 theologian at New Testament theologian, covered that very topic, and 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.960 it's available free if you want to listen in more 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.040 and really think it through in detail. If you go 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.920 to restored Hope network org and you go into resources, 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:55.640 it'll offer you previous, um, Hope conference recordings in 2023. 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:59.240 Doctor Robert Gagnon covered that very topic, so I highly 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.439 recommend that for further follow up. 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.160 Excellent. I hope that helps. And thank you so much 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.000 for the question. Nisha. I welcome you from Illinois. Thanks 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:08.520 for being here. Your question please. 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.000 Hi. Thank you so much for your time. I just 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:15.320 wanted to know if you have a family member that 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.640 is trans and you want to help them come to 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:23.280 like sanctification, but you were formerly in the community and 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:27.149 identified in the LGBT community. How would you best go 0:21:27.150 --> 0:21:28.590 about helping them? 0:21:29.550 --> 0:21:32.750 Great question. So the first thing is you can talk 0:21:32.990 --> 0:21:36.469 based on a personal experience. And I find that to 0:21:36.470 --> 0:21:39.550 be incredibly powerful when I'm talking to people, if I 0:21:39.910 --> 0:21:42.710 grab a coffee at an airport and all there is 0:21:42.750 --> 0:21:45.230 is Starbucks and I will talk to somebody who either 0:21:45.230 --> 0:21:49.670 identifies as gay or trans, it's actually fun for me 0:21:49.670 --> 0:21:53.470 to share Jesus with them, should they be willing to 0:21:53.710 --> 0:21:58.830 have that conversation. Because, um, it shows a couple of things. One, 0:21:58.869 --> 0:22:03.190 that God loves people enough that he's willing to speak 0:22:03.230 --> 0:22:06.109 truth to someone. In that scenario, he's not afraid of 0:22:06.109 --> 0:22:09.910 dirtying his hands. He's actually wanting and longing to draw 0:22:09.910 --> 0:22:13.909 people to himself. Um, in that there's redemption in the 0:22:13.910 --> 0:22:15.389 middle of it. And so I get to share a 0:22:15.390 --> 0:22:18.430 little bit about, hey, I once was gay, and look 0:22:18.470 --> 0:22:20.910 what Jesus did in my life. And it's not just 0:22:20.910 --> 0:22:24.230 my life. He's done this to many others, so you 0:22:24.230 --> 0:22:28.300 can actually approach that in a very powerful way from 0:22:28.580 --> 0:22:31.620 talking about what Jesus is and has been doing and 0:22:31.619 --> 0:22:34.660 what he did do in your life to bring about redemption. 0:22:34.660 --> 0:22:38.740 So that's a great starting point. Again, there's no way 0:22:38.740 --> 0:22:41.980 to pressure someone to becoming a Christian or line up 0:22:42.020 --> 0:22:46.540 their lives with the Lord. But another powerful tool in 0:22:46.540 --> 0:22:51.459 your toolbox is questions. Well, if this person claimed to 0:22:51.500 --> 0:22:54.419 know Jesus at some point and they claim they're a 0:22:54.420 --> 0:22:57.780 Christian today, then it's a great question to say, okay, well, 0:22:57.820 --> 0:22:59.780 how did you get to the point where God is 0:22:59.780 --> 0:23:04.740 somehow okay with this? What changed about how you interpreted Scripture? 0:23:04.780 --> 0:23:08.220 Have you really evaluated how you're looking at that? Are 0:23:08.220 --> 0:23:10.140 you looking at it through the lens of your sin, 0:23:10.140 --> 0:23:12.620 or are you looking at it through God's lens of 0:23:12.660 --> 0:23:18.340 interpreting accurately Scripture? And so who changed in this equation? 0:23:18.780 --> 0:23:23.060 Often it's us. So the fact is humans are quite 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:27.600 capable of justifying themselves in whatever form of sin, but 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.120 that can open a conversation of, well, how close do 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.000 you feel to God right now compared to previously? Um, 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.720 how is your life going right now? And oftentimes, someone 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.080 who's embracing trans, um, their whole scheme of life is 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:48.679 being flipped upside down. Um, their way of thinking everybody 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:53.400 else to flip their worldviews upside down. And so there's 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:58.680 often a case of mental instability, emotional instability, other things 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.359 like that that are not so encouraging. So it may 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.199 not be going well for that person. That would be 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:08.639 the time to insert maybe, um, the Lord has more 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:11.800 for you. You don't have to go down this pathway. 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.760 Are you sure this is the pathway that that God 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.960 has in mind for you? And is this the right 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.399 way to go and deal with truth claims? And that's 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.670 very exciting. That's where things happen. 0:24:24.150 --> 0:24:25.909 That's why I love talking to an. It's not a 0:24:25.910 --> 0:24:28.350 wonderful answer. Nisha, I hope that's an encouragement to you. 0:24:28.350 --> 0:24:31.350 Thank you for your compassionate heart and asking the question 0:24:31.350 --> 0:24:36.430 in the first place. (877) 548-3675. This is in the market 0:24:36.430 --> 0:24:39.350 with Janet Parshall. Any question you have on all of 0:24:39.350 --> 0:24:42.190 this sexuality stuff that we're talking about in the marketplace 0:24:42.190 --> 0:24:44.229 of ideas. But the difference here is how do we 0:24:44.230 --> 0:24:58.310 respond like Jesus? (877) 548-3675. Ministry is never a solo effort. 0:24:58.310 --> 0:25:00.790 You know my voice because I'm on the radio every day. 0:25:00.790 --> 0:25:02.909 Look a little further and you'd see right into the 0:25:02.910 --> 0:25:06.110 homes of listeners just like you. Partial partners who give 0:25:06.150 --> 0:25:09.109 a monthly gift and make this ministry available. Become a 0:25:09.109 --> 0:25:11.910 member of the team today by becoming a partial partner. 0:25:12.070 --> 0:25:16.669 Call eight 7758 or go online to in the market 0:25:16.670 --> 0:25:23.260 with Janet parshall.org. We're visiting with an Edward, who for 0:25:23.260 --> 0:25:25.820 more than two decades she has served as an author, 0:25:25.859 --> 0:25:28.540 a speaker, a spokesperson and an advocate for men and 0:25:28.540 --> 0:25:32.899 women who struggle with unwanted same sex attractions. That's why today, 0:25:32.900 --> 0:25:35.500 her role is executive director of restored Hope network. By 0:25:35.500 --> 0:25:37.380 the way, this was her story. That's why that verse 0:25:37.380 --> 0:25:40.780 in First Corinthians is so powerful. Someday, if you want. 0:25:40.820 --> 0:25:43.100 We'll have Anne come and share her story again. But 0:25:43.420 --> 0:25:47.020 such were some of you, including Anne. Not anymore. Now 0:25:47.140 --> 0:25:49.580 she's taking everything that has happened in her life through 0:25:49.580 --> 0:25:52.179 the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit and ministers to 0:25:52.220 --> 0:25:55.340 people who are broken and struggling in this area of 0:25:55.340 --> 0:25:58.300 sexual sin. I want to remind you again, also restored 0:25:58.300 --> 0:26:03.540 Hope network. I'll say it again. Restored Hope network. Their 0:26:03.540 --> 0:26:07.740 virtual conference entitled washed based on that verse in First Corinthians, 0:26:07.900 --> 0:26:11.020 starts this Friday and Saturday. It's a two day conference, 0:26:11.020 --> 0:26:14.420 starts at 9:00 Denver time. That's mountain time. But even 0:26:14.420 --> 0:26:16.460 if you can't, because you're on the job Friday, go 0:26:16.460 --> 0:26:18.300 to it. Remember, you have access once you sign up 0:26:18.300 --> 0:26:21.689 for this conference for six months for all of the messages, 0:26:21.690 --> 0:26:23.649 if you could only listen live on Saturday, you haven't 0:26:23.650 --> 0:26:25.410 lost anything. You're going to get your money's worth because 0:26:25.410 --> 0:26:28.730 you'll be able to listen up to six months. Absolutely fabulous. 0:26:28.770 --> 0:26:32.210 A great lineup of speakers really across the board dealing 0:26:32.210 --> 0:26:35.810 with issues of human sexuality that people struggle with. People 0:26:35.810 --> 0:26:38.810 in the church struggle with, issues the church struggles with. 0:26:38.810 --> 0:26:40.810 So it's going to be an absolutely fabulous conference. So 0:26:40.810 --> 0:26:44.449 check it out. Hope conference 2025. And I've got a 0:26:44.450 --> 0:26:46.890 direct link on my information page if that will help. 0:26:46.930 --> 0:26:51.649 All right. Back to the phones where we started. (877) 548-3675 0:26:51.690 --> 0:26:53.770 Kathy in Indiana, thank you for being here. And your 0:26:53.770 --> 0:26:55.010 question for Anne, please. 0:26:57.130 --> 0:27:00.370 Hello, Anne. Um, I have a daughter who's married. Her 0:27:00.369 --> 0:27:04.810 husband has declared himself non-binary. She gets very upset if 0:27:04.810 --> 0:27:07.010 we don't use the they them pronouns, but I don't 0:27:07.010 --> 0:27:08.890 even know how to use them. 0:27:10.650 --> 0:27:15.290 I guess I do get you. Um. So, son in law, 0:27:15.730 --> 0:27:20.480 who's decided? he is not neither male or female. That's 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:25.520 what non-binary means. So there is no, of course, justification 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:30.560 scientifically for not being either male or female. In fact, 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.800 our biology lines up exactly with the Word of God 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.760 because he, the Word of God, created all things. And 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:44.199 so there is no third sex or a lack of in-between. 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.919 So if we define things biologically, he has no room, 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.080 but he's defining himself emotionally, and he's defining himself by 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:58.760 identity apart from biological reality. Um, so that is where 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:04.080 he's at. Um, I wonder, Cathy, in your case, um, 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.080 are you able to relate to him or is he 0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.840 still in communication with you, or may I ask that? 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:14.480 I don't know, Cathy. No. 0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:19.429 None of them are actually communicating with us. But I 0:28:19.630 --> 0:28:24.869 actually became very good friends with my his mother. 0:28:25.390 --> 0:28:25.910 Okay. 0:28:25.950 --> 0:28:30.310 And so it is, you know, it's very difficult. Not 0:28:30.310 --> 0:28:32.990 only is he now declaring non-binary, but so is our 0:28:32.990 --> 0:28:37.550 ten year old grandson. His their oldest child. Oh. 0:28:37.990 --> 0:28:38.350 Okay. 0:28:38.390 --> 0:28:43.830 We are. I know it's, um. We we do not 0:28:43.830 --> 0:28:47.990 have any. We haven't seen them for at least five years. And, um. 0:28:48.550 --> 0:28:51.870 But the Lord in his grace. You know, I just 0:28:51.870 --> 0:28:54.190 keep trying to learn as much as I can. I 0:28:54.190 --> 0:28:58.830 don't have any intention of, you know, like my husband says, 0:28:58.830 --> 0:29:01.950 we want to be respectful, compassionate, but we want to 0:29:01.990 --> 0:29:07.430 stand firm on the word. And both my daughter and 0:29:07.430 --> 0:29:10.469 my son in law were raised. They declared they committed 0:29:10.470 --> 0:29:13.430 to Christ. And then somewhere along the line, and we 0:29:13.470 --> 0:29:17.370 don't know how. You know, Satan got a foothold and 0:29:17.370 --> 0:29:18.370 this is where we are. 0:29:18.770 --> 0:29:19.130 Yeah. 0:29:19.850 --> 0:29:22.530 Okay. Well, thank you so much, Cathy. Um, here are 0:29:22.530 --> 0:29:25.570 a couple of ideas. One is people are first and 0:29:25.570 --> 0:29:30.010 foremost often influenced in this pathway by either their peers 0:29:30.010 --> 0:29:34.570 who are embracing that ideology or through social media or 0:29:34.610 --> 0:29:40.050 through apps, TikTok, you name it, influencers online. So that's 0:29:40.050 --> 0:29:42.570 kind of where it's happening. And you can see that 0:29:42.570 --> 0:29:46.850 same influence going from father to son. He's still biologically 0:29:46.850 --> 0:29:54.210 a male, and he's influencing his male, uh, son to, um, 0:29:54.490 --> 0:29:57.650 embrace that too. It is natural for a son to 0:29:57.690 --> 0:30:00.770 want to imitate a father. And so this is unfortunately 0:30:00.770 --> 0:30:03.930 impacting the next generation, even though it may or may 0:30:03.930 --> 0:30:08.690 not be an issue that this child actually deals with. Um, 0:30:09.210 --> 0:30:13.280 so the question would be, um, how did you come 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:17.120 about believing that you were neither male nor female? And 0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.920 how could you be neither male nor female if you 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:24.400 produced a son? Um, uh, if you because we're actually 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:28.880 oriented around our biology, that enables us to contribute either 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.040 sperm or egg to the equation along with the other 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.960 parts of the, you know, the uterus, etc., that that 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.200 sustain and nurture life. Um, and that's a huge blessing 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.520 from the hand of God. So, um, a person who 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:50.400 embraces non-binary is actually running from the biological reality, scientific reality, 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:55.600 the physical material reality of our existence and the one 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.840 who made it. Now, there could be reasons why the 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:04.200 person is running from God, essentially, and reality itself. Um, 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.800 it could be for praise in this world. Because if 0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.000 let me tell you, if you're in school and some 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:15.670 very liberal area in this country like Washington, Oregon, California, Massachusetts, 0:31:15.670 --> 0:31:18.590 you name it. If you're there and you're in school 0:31:18.590 --> 0:31:22.230 and you say, I'm heterosexual, for example, as a youth 0:31:22.590 --> 0:31:27.030 you're going to be called, um, uh, a victimizer. You're 0:31:27.070 --> 0:31:30.430 the bad guy, especially if you're a white male. Um, 0:31:30.470 --> 0:31:33.070 and so a lot of people are choosing a different 0:31:33.070 --> 0:31:35.469 label to put on themselves just so they won't be 0:31:35.470 --> 0:31:40.070 harassed in school. Unfortunately, that's a bad idea, of course. Uh, 0:31:40.070 --> 0:31:43.790 but nonetheless, that's happening as well. That probably is not 0:31:43.790 --> 0:31:46.390 the case with your son in law, but who he's 0:31:46.390 --> 0:31:49.270 hanging around with does have an influence, and Scripture points 0:31:49.270 --> 0:31:53.910 to that as well. Um, and this is serious consequences 0:31:54.030 --> 0:31:57.790 if a person goes through surgeries because of a result 0:31:57.790 --> 0:32:02.950 of this, um, non-binary identity or goes through medical treatments, 0:32:03.310 --> 0:32:07.510 the amount of, um, mental health issues that the person 0:32:07.510 --> 0:32:13.740 encounters increases exponentially. The largest research study that was done 0:32:13.780 --> 0:32:17.820 on people who have experienced surgeries to align with what 0:32:17.820 --> 0:32:22.780 their mental idea of who they are sexually is that 0:32:22.780 --> 0:32:26.500 there is a very, very high suicide rate of completed suicide, 0:32:26.500 --> 0:32:31.140 not just a suicide attempt. Males that take female hormones 0:32:31.140 --> 0:32:36.500 are much more likely to have hospitalization after a suicide 0:32:36.500 --> 0:32:40.500 attempt than any other measure of suicidality as well. So 0:32:40.540 --> 0:32:44.700 it's it's this is a dangerous pathway. Mhm. Um, so 0:32:44.700 --> 0:32:47.540 I want to affirm you that what you're sensing about 0:32:47.540 --> 0:32:53.220 something being off is really important. Um, affirming the unreality 0:32:53.220 --> 0:32:57.940 of what they're experiencing. This individual or other individuals, both 0:32:57.980 --> 0:33:02.180 the grandson and son in law doesn't help them. Um, 0:33:02.660 --> 0:33:06.860 compassion helps them, but truth also helps them. And so 0:33:06.900 --> 0:33:10.250 they might buck against that. There are ways to keep 0:33:10.410 --> 0:33:12.650 a relationship, and I just want to let you know 0:33:12.650 --> 0:33:17.850 that some family members, like you're experiencing experience estrangement because 0:33:17.850 --> 0:33:22.250 you don't agree with the the ideology that your loved one, 0:33:22.250 --> 0:33:27.690 the ones that you reared are walking through and they 0:33:27.690 --> 0:33:31.170 cut you off. And so Gretchen Stockman during the Hope conference, 0:33:31.170 --> 0:33:33.810 is actually going to cover that. She's been estranged from 0:33:33.810 --> 0:33:36.530 a couple of her kids, one a gay son and 0:33:36.530 --> 0:33:40.210 one who identifies as trans. And so, um, she has 0:33:40.210 --> 0:33:45.850 been not compromising her faith, but also working towards reconciliation 0:33:45.850 --> 0:33:48.930 at the same time. And it's actually a beautiful story. 0:33:49.290 --> 0:33:51.290 So if you're able to come, there might be some 0:33:51.290 --> 0:33:55.090 incredible insights for you there. Another one that will be 0:33:55.090 --> 0:33:59.250 covered is Doctor Julie Hamilton, who is an expert, uh, 0:34:00.050 --> 0:34:04.450 licensed therapist as well. She has her PhD counseling. Gender 0:34:04.450 --> 0:34:08.960 dysphoric youth will be her topic. So with the grandson, 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:14.480 this might be really relevant. Um, just just a thought. Um, 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.719 I won't be able to give you much more detail 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:20.760 on a on a quick radio interview here, but those 0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:22.600 things would be good follow up for you. 0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:24.759 Cathy. This would be a good place for me to 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:29.520 say again, restored Hope network, you're going to see an 0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.680 events tab. Click that on and then you'll see a 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.640 reference to Hope conference. Click that on and it'll walk 0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.040 you through the steps on how you can be a 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.520 part of the virtual conference. You don't have to go anywhere. 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.120 You can watch this right through your screen at home 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.000 Friday and Saturday. And and I think it was brilliant 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.839 that you told us yet again about more of the 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.520 speakers that are going to be there. It is a 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.080 wide variety of topics, all of them biblio centric, and 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.279 I cannot underscore that enough. And it'll offer a lot 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.399 of help as well. So Cathy, thank you so much 0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.160 for being with us, Anna in Pennsylvania. Thanks for being here. 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:01.280 Your question please. 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:06.589 Yes. Um, thank you for having me. Um, how how 0:35:06.630 --> 0:35:09.670 do you explain to your child that's been raised in, 0:35:09.710 --> 0:35:14.270 you know, in the Christian faith that, you know, the word, um, 0:35:14.310 --> 0:35:19.230 homosexuality is a mistranslation in the Bible, that it doesn't 0:35:19.230 --> 0:35:21.870 mean what? It's that that's not what it really meant. 0:35:23.310 --> 0:35:25.390 Yeah. This is a new angle. This is a new 0:35:25.390 --> 0:35:28.150 thing that's happening. Going back to what is it, the documentary, 0:35:28.150 --> 0:35:31.270 I think it was 1946 or something. It's a mistranslation. 0:35:31.310 --> 0:35:35.790 And it's all it's propaganda. It is. There's that's a 0:35:35.790 --> 0:35:38.270 wonderful thing. When all else fails, read the instructions from 0:35:38.270 --> 0:35:42.469 Genesis to Revelation. There's zero ambiguity on this. It's torturous 0:35:42.469 --> 0:35:45.230 to try to think that, oh, no, no, they meant, uh, 0:35:45.230 --> 0:35:47.989 they were sexually immoral homosexuals, you know, they weren't being 0:35:47.989 --> 0:35:51.230 monogamously faithful. No, they were just talking about temple. I mean, 0:35:51.270 --> 0:35:55.510 every iteration under the sun, God makes it perfectly clear. Now, 0:35:55.550 --> 0:35:57.430 I took the air out of the room on that response. 0:35:57.430 --> 0:36:00.350 And so forgive me, when we come back, you answer, please, 0:36:00.550 --> 0:36:03.009 Anna's question, but I just want to encourage you, Anna. 0:36:03.090 --> 0:36:05.370 Just because I listen to the chatter in the marketplace, 0:36:05.610 --> 0:36:08.969 what you're having told to you that it was a mistranslation. 0:36:08.969 --> 0:36:13.250 This is a new part of the toolbox of propaganda 0:36:13.650 --> 0:36:17.009 that somehow this the whole argument hinges on a mistranslation 0:36:17.010 --> 0:36:18.610 of the word. But here's what the good part of 0:36:18.650 --> 0:36:21.609 that is. They're still understanding that it's the word that's 0:36:21.610 --> 0:36:25.130 the encumbrance to absolute, total licentiousness. What is it about 0:36:25.130 --> 0:36:28.810 the word that makes people stop and say, but, but okay, 0:36:28.810 --> 0:36:31.529 I can't just go full bore because there's something in 0:36:31.570 --> 0:36:34.210 that book that says something, but I don't know, maybe 0:36:34.210 --> 0:36:37.049 they mistranslated it. So be encouraged, because that's just part 0:36:37.050 --> 0:36:39.530 of the enemy's toolbox. You're going to hear Ann's response 0:36:39.530 --> 0:36:56.170 right after this. And Edward is with us, executive director 0:36:56.170 --> 0:36:59.009 of restored Hope network. And boy, this weekend, Friday and 0:36:59.010 --> 0:37:03.759 Saturday they have a fabulous conference. Virtual conference. Friday the 20th. 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:05.799 Saturday the 21st. I got a link for you to 0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.080 be able to sign up anywhere on planet Earth, and 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:09.920 you can be a part of this. And what you're 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:11.799 going to hear is a lot of what Anne has 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:13.920 been saying, and answers to your questions only by a 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:17.200 panoply of different speakers with areas of expertise. So please, 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.239 if this is a real and present issue in your family, 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.279 it would so be a great use of your time 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.480 to be able to get these answers from people who 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:28.640 are expert, qualified personal testimonies themselves. Now back to Anna 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.600 because Anna is hearing from one of her own babies 0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:35.279 this bit of propaganda that the problem hinges not on 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:39.520 what God said. The problem hinges on man's fallibility and 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.279 a mistranslation in the Scripture. And your response? 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.960 Well, I'll tell you, I've heard this argument many times before. Um, 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.120 what they don't realize is that the word homosexuality, though 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:54.839 it didn't exist until, uh, it came out of Europe 0:37:54.840 --> 0:38:00.629 and didn't exist until recently. Uh, the original all material 0:38:00.630 --> 0:38:05.070 in Greek and in Hebrew existed preexisted that many times over. 0:38:05.110 --> 0:38:05.870 That's exactly. 0:38:05.870 --> 0:38:08.710 Right. And if you look at the actual meaning of 0:38:08.710 --> 0:38:10.790 the words in Hebrew and Greek, which you can do 0:38:10.830 --> 0:38:17.189 easily these days, um, through Biblehub.com, Biblegateway, you name it, um, 0:38:17.190 --> 0:38:22.630 go get a literal translation, uh, Vine's dictionary, you name it, 0:38:22.630 --> 0:38:25.830 you can, you can look at all those things. But, um, 0:38:25.830 --> 0:38:29.950 Leviticus 1822 says, you shall not lie with a male 0:38:29.950 --> 0:38:33.989 as with a woman. So that's pretty clear in Hebrew. 0:38:34.030 --> 0:38:38.390 It's I cannot pronounce any of those words, but it 0:38:38.390 --> 0:38:43.630 literally says, you shall not lie. Uh. Lie down. Uh, 0:38:43.630 --> 0:38:48.430 Quentin is the word in Greek. Uh, means to bed someone. 0:38:48.430 --> 0:38:51.390 As a woman, you shall not bed a male as 0:38:51.430 --> 0:38:55.870 with a female. And so that's referring to sexuality. It 0:38:55.870 --> 0:38:59.020 is not. There's no constriction on that as far as 0:38:59.060 --> 0:39:04.260 abuse of minors or abuse of slaves or anything else, 0:39:04.260 --> 0:39:05.980 it had nothing to do with that. If you look 0:39:06.020 --> 0:39:09.700 at the context of the Scripture, so context is really 0:39:09.700 --> 0:39:13.259 important there, avoiding the context. And if you simply look 0:39:13.260 --> 0:39:16.500 at Romans one, you will see a lot of detail 0:39:16.500 --> 0:39:22.100 there to malakoi as being, uh, and um, arsenokoitai, which 0:39:22.100 --> 0:39:24.700 is something that Paul came up with as a result 0:39:24.700 --> 0:39:29.380 of the Levitical prohibitions, where God says that is a 0:39:29.739 --> 0:39:32.939 that's an abomination in his mind. That is, that is 0:39:32.940 --> 0:39:39.700 a serious, uh, uh, stepping off into sin, veering away 0:39:39.739 --> 0:39:44.100 from his design with our bodies. And truly it is. 0:39:44.100 --> 0:39:47.339 But Romans one, we'll talk about that, too, if you 0:39:47.380 --> 0:39:51.220 simply go back to the Greek or the Hebrew, it 0:39:51.219 --> 0:39:54.140 says exactly the same thing. We simply came up with 0:39:54.140 --> 0:39:58.370 a term later on in time that was homosexuality that 0:39:58.370 --> 0:40:03.610 we've come to. To understand is that phrase, which means 0:40:03.810 --> 0:40:08.570 somebody who has sex with somebody of the same sex. 0:40:09.330 --> 0:40:12.890 So a male or a female, it doesn't identify anywhere 0:40:12.890 --> 0:40:17.570 in Scripture. A person who is identified by a third dynamic, 0:40:17.570 --> 0:40:22.010 or a fourth or a 78th like Facebook offers you. 0:40:22.170 --> 0:40:24.410 Quite honestly, and I don't mean to make light of 0:40:24.410 --> 0:40:28.290 these things. These are really important because the sexuality and 0:40:28.290 --> 0:40:30.530 gender goes down to the core of a human being. 0:40:30.570 --> 0:40:31.330 Yes, mam. 0:40:31.969 --> 0:40:37.810 But we honestly must evaluate who we are by not 0:40:37.810 --> 0:40:41.129 just the body parts, but the DNA. That's part of 0:40:41.130 --> 0:40:45.009 every cell in the human body. If we treat a 0:40:45.010 --> 0:40:49.290 human being who's a female like a male, a female 0:40:49.290 --> 0:40:54.810 body embodied person who which means that's a female. If 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:58.680 we treat them as if they are because they identify 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.399 as male, we give them male medicines, medicines, we do 0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.680 hormone blockers, we give them opposite sex hormones. We go 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:11.040 through surgical processes. If you do that, you will increase 0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:16.720 testosterone in the body, which will elevate the the blood development. 0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.600 You'll have more red blood cells, which can lead to 0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:24.720 with a circulatory system that's not built for that. And 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:28.839 what can happen is a more likely situation where a 0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:32.360 person can have a stroke or a heart attack, because 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:36.520 clotting happens more frequently in a body that has more 0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:42.080 red blood cells. Okay. Or other blood particles. And so 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:46.400 you've got you've got problems right there. Forget about the 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:50.880 mental health issues, but mental health issues are a big deal. 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:55.580 It's no surprise to me That when you evaluate who 0:41:55.580 --> 0:41:58.620 are the violent crime people, it's usually male. So if 0:41:58.660 --> 0:42:02.700 you fill a female body with a bunch of male testosterone, 0:42:02.700 --> 0:42:06.020 that's at a really high level. The only kind of 0:42:06.060 --> 0:42:08.460 level that in a female body it would be present 0:42:08.460 --> 0:42:12.500 would be a some kind of really horrible cancer. Um, 0:42:12.500 --> 0:42:14.819 if that's the case, and you fill someone with that 0:42:14.820 --> 0:42:20.259 much testosterone, it's no surprise to me that a female 0:42:20.300 --> 0:42:22.419 who identifies as a male is the one who was 0:42:22.420 --> 0:42:27.739 out there shooting. Testosterone and outward violence tend to go along. 0:42:28.260 --> 0:42:31.379 Thank goodness men know how to control that testosterone, and 0:42:31.380 --> 0:42:35.100 they learn through puberty how to be in control of 0:42:35.140 --> 0:42:38.300 their bodies instead of their bodies being in control of them. 0:42:39.620 --> 0:42:43.060 And with good leadership, that can especially happen if you 0:42:43.060 --> 0:42:47.380 take a male body, a person who's in a male 0:42:47.420 --> 0:42:51.779 physical body, that means a male person, and you fill 0:42:51.890 --> 0:42:58.530 that person with female hormones, surgeries, blockers of male testosterone, 0:42:59.090 --> 0:43:02.450 you will get someone who looks like a female, potentially 0:43:02.450 --> 0:43:05.610 just like in the other scenario, but they will actually 0:43:05.610 --> 0:43:09.170 be having way too high of estrogen in their body. 0:43:09.489 --> 0:43:13.410 And that can lead to severe mental health issues. Like 0:43:13.410 --> 0:43:16.650 I mentioned before, which is that person is more likely 0:43:16.650 --> 0:43:21.210 to be suicidal with a serious compulsion to take their lives. 0:43:21.730 --> 0:43:25.170 And the research that was done in Sweden found that 0:43:25.210 --> 0:43:30.489 people were 41%, 19 times higher than the regular population 0:43:30.690 --> 0:43:34.850 to try and take their lives after surgery. They also 0:43:34.850 --> 0:43:37.410 had research in the last couple of years that looked 0:43:37.410 --> 0:43:41.810 at how likely is a person going to need psychological drugs, 0:43:42.610 --> 0:43:48.170 psychiatric drugs, and it increases hugely after they begin this process. 0:43:48.450 --> 0:43:52.120 So there's instability. That's not a good idea. 0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:56.439 Wow. Wow. And there's. There's so much more we can 0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.040 talk about. And many more people online to talk to you. 0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:00.959 I wish I had another hour. Let's do this again 0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.080 real soon. But in the meantime, I want to take 0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:05.520 the last couple of seconds here and promote the conference. 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:09.400 It's called washed. It's the hope 2025. Remember, it's the 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.680 restored Hope network. So it's the Hope 2025 conference. And 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.920 if you go to restored Hope network Dot, at the 0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.600 top you'll see a tab that says events. Click that 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.600 on and then you'll get reference to the Hope conference. 0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.879 Click on through and you can sign up. And again 0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.279 it's virtual. You don't have to travel anywhere. You can 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.279 watch it right through whatever screen you're going to sign 0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.600 up and use. And again it's Friday and Saturday. And 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:35.239 even if it starts at 9:00 mountain time on Friday, 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:36.919 but if you're saying, well, that's the middle of a workday, 0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.120 don't worry about it. When you sign up for this conference, 0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:41.560 you're going to get six months of an opportunity to 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.480 be able to hear all of the speakers. So check 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:45.879 it out because your questions are going to be answered 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.040 at this conference. Lord bless you and thank you, friends. 0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.000 We'll see you next time.