1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,800 S1: 100 Years of Moody Radio continues today with our tribute 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,840 S1: and salute to the people who got you up. Started 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,560 S1: your day with a song, a smile or two and 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,560 S1: launched you into the day with a biblical mindset that 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,159 S1: is still going on today. And I think it's the 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,400 S1: most important part of the day, really, for any radio 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,320 S1: station or network. The morning show sets the tone for 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,320 S1: the entire day, so you're going to hear some voices 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,160 S1: from the past as we honor those who got up early, 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,200 S1: like Bob Devine in Cleveland. What a tenure he had 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,199 S1: at CRF. And I want you to be thinking of 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,560 S1: your morning moment, something you remember, some encouragement that stuck 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,560 S1: in your soul. And whenever it was 50 years ago 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,760 S1: or this morning, give thanks to God for his morning 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,320 S1: kindness through Moody Radio. Let's get started with the program. 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,840 S1: From the heart to the heart for the heart, we 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,160 S1: call it Chris Fabry live online. Chris Favory live.org. And 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,480 S1: don't forget those behind the scenes. I speak for morning hosts. 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,880 S1: Through the decades, you would not have heard any moody 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,920 S1: radio morning program had it not been for those who 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,399 S1: supported the hosts through the years. Today we thank Chris 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,520 S1: Sigurd in for Ryan Mcconahay. Trish is our producer. Lisa 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,000 S1: is helping out. Josh will be answering your calls. To begin, 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,920 S1: I welcome my erstwhile compadre from the morning program in 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,639 S1: the 90s. He will be my anchor throughout this hour. 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,640 S1: You know him from Sound of Majesty, which you can 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,559 S1: still hear online. You may remember him from his days 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,039 S1: of hosting Prime Time America Inside look. Radio school of 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,640 S1: the Bible. The one the only Greg Wheatley. Hey, Greg. 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,119 S1: How are you? 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,199 S2: Oh, Chris, it's so good to be back with you. 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,800 S2: You name all those programs. I think, you know, I 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,960 S2: couldn't last on any of them. They kept kicking me 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,920 S2: off the program and had to give me a new one. 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,400 S1: So you were so good, they would just keep piling 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,920 S1: them on. Okay. So when you started at Moody, you 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,480 S1: eventually sat in with Bob Murfin. He was a mainstay 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,040 S1: of Moody Radio for many, many years. Is that right? 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,119 S2: I, I did when I hired in. Interestingly, when I 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:14,560 S2: came on to WMBI, I came as assistant manager. Um, 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,080 S2: and then I did really had very little air time 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,200 S2: at that point. Um, a little while after that. Yeah. 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,079 S2: I kind of sat in with Bob helped to produce 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,160 S2: the program kind of kind of a co-host lite. Uh, 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,680 S2: I would guess. Yes. Um, anybody's lite compared to Bob Murphy. Um. 46 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,520 S1: And people have never heard. Bob, you're going to have 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,520 S1: to explain to them, but I asked Andrew the other day, 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,680 S1: I said, what do you remember about Bob? Because she 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,120 S1: would engineer the morning program sometimes. And she said he 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,360 S1: would put his head down and he would just wave 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,239 S1: his hand in the air to start the music going. 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,840 S1: That's what she remembers about him. What do you remember? 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,360 S2: That is true, I remember that, yeah. Bob was a 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,810 S2: force to be reckoned with. He, uh, people Absolutely loved 55 00:02:57,810 --> 00:03:01,489 S2: Bob Murfin. And I'm sure those who you know are 56 00:03:01,490 --> 00:03:04,570 S2: still with us and remember him still would say that, uh, 57 00:03:04,570 --> 00:03:08,650 S2: he just, he just was a character and, um, always up, 58 00:03:08,650 --> 00:03:14,850 S2: always alive, always cheery. And, um, for a guy like me. 59 00:03:15,610 --> 00:03:15,970 S1: Right. 60 00:03:16,010 --> 00:03:18,130 S2: Kind of down on the farm. Yeah. Kind of kind 61 00:03:18,169 --> 00:03:22,970 S2: of homey. Um, but, uh, just an amazing, amazing force 62 00:03:22,970 --> 00:03:24,090 S2: at WMBI. 63 00:03:24,370 --> 00:03:26,250 S1: Okay, I'm going to come back to you, but I 64 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:29,369 S1: want to go to, uh, the co-author of the fantastic 65 00:03:29,370 --> 00:03:32,049 S1: new book, this is moody Radio Hour. Thank you. Right now, 66 00:03:32,050 --> 00:03:34,410 S1: if you support us with a gift of any amount, 67 00:03:34,410 --> 00:03:38,529 S1: go to Chris Fabry, live.org. Our resident historian and collaborator, 68 00:03:38,530 --> 00:03:42,970 S1: Phil Shepherd, who started, I believe in 1981 at WDM 69 00:03:42,970 --> 00:03:47,970 S1: in the Quad Cities. He retired from Moody Radio in 2020. Phil, 70 00:03:48,170 --> 00:03:51,530 S1: welcome back. Now take me to the 20 1926 was 71 00:03:51,530 --> 00:03:54,170 S1: the first time that we went on the air, but 72 00:03:54,170 --> 00:03:57,650 S1: in the 20s and 30s. Was there a morning program 73 00:03:57,650 --> 00:03:58,690 S1: on Moody Radio? 74 00:03:59,650 --> 00:04:03,530 S3: Hi, Chris. Yes there was. In fact, they schedule. The 75 00:04:03,530 --> 00:04:06,810 S3: usual schedule was 1030, started at 1030 in the morning 76 00:04:06,810 --> 00:04:09,770 S3: and went for about an hour. But they turned on 77 00:04:09,770 --> 00:04:13,810 S3: the transmitters at 7 a.m. for a 40 minute program 78 00:04:13,810 --> 00:04:18,290 S3: called the Family Altar League. It was actually an organization 79 00:04:18,290 --> 00:04:21,089 S3: that was located right next to the institute. And a 80 00:04:21,089 --> 00:04:23,890 S3: man by the name of John Meredith was the host 81 00:04:23,890 --> 00:04:27,890 S3: of that. And he, uh, he had an objective, uh, 82 00:04:27,890 --> 00:04:32,930 S3: I found in the, uh, January 1927, Moody monthly magazine. 83 00:04:33,089 --> 00:04:36,770 S3: He said, these 40 minutes on the radio are changing 84 00:04:36,770 --> 00:04:39,970 S3: the lives of many people who are learning to start 85 00:04:39,970 --> 00:04:43,529 S3: the day with prayer and Bible reading. So it was 86 00:04:43,529 --> 00:04:46,770 S3: a devotional type of a program beginning, but the last 87 00:04:46,770 --> 00:04:49,490 S3: ten minutes were for the kids. He called them the 88 00:04:49,529 --> 00:04:52,250 S3: early birds, and so he had a message. So he 89 00:04:52,250 --> 00:04:54,610 S3: only had 40 minutes. I mean, you get an hour 90 00:04:54,650 --> 00:04:57,210 S3: each day. He only had 40 minutes, and he tried 91 00:04:57,210 --> 00:05:00,010 S3: to do everything he could to reach people with the 92 00:05:00,010 --> 00:05:02,170 S3: Word of God and encourage them to, you know, get 93 00:05:02,170 --> 00:05:03,250 S3: them going in the morning. 94 00:05:03,290 --> 00:05:08,490 S1: Toward the end of the 1930s, a program debuted. This 95 00:05:08,490 --> 00:05:12,490 S1: was in April of 1939. Here's a little taste of that. 96 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:17,610 S4: And good morning. This is Beverly Shea bringing you hymns 97 00:05:17,610 --> 00:05:20,650 S4: from the chapel. Don Houston is at the organ to 98 00:05:20,690 --> 00:05:22,890 S4: accompany us in these sacred songs. 99 00:05:31,130 --> 00:05:33,290 S1: All right, I'll jump in there on Bev Shea, because 100 00:05:33,290 --> 00:05:36,370 S1: we're going to hear him again here in just a minute. Um, 101 00:05:36,370 --> 00:05:39,890 S1: so hymns from the chapel there is, you know, starting 102 00:05:39,890 --> 00:05:44,010 S1: in 1939, you think what was on the cusp of 103 00:05:44,050 --> 00:05:46,089 S1: happening in the world at that time, Phil? 104 00:05:46,730 --> 00:05:51,410 S3: Well, Europe was in World War One, World War two. And, uh, and, 105 00:05:51,410 --> 00:05:54,410 S3: and those in America were feeling that and they were 106 00:05:54,410 --> 00:05:58,529 S3: sensing that the world is is, uh, really melting down. 107 00:05:58,529 --> 00:06:01,290 S3: And so there was a need for encouragement. And it 108 00:06:01,290 --> 00:06:04,970 S3: was in 1942 that the idea of having a morning program, 109 00:06:05,130 --> 00:06:10,650 S3: an extended time to give news and information, devotional encouragement, uh, 110 00:06:10,650 --> 00:06:14,210 S3: a lighter, let's just say a lighter feel as we 111 00:06:14,210 --> 00:06:17,570 S3: know today, uh, serious at times, but yet lighter to 112 00:06:17,570 --> 00:06:20,490 S3: get people going that, that commenced right in the early 113 00:06:20,529 --> 00:06:22,890 S3: days of World War two in America. 114 00:06:23,529 --> 00:06:27,690 S1: Okay. Um, let's jump to the 70s. We talked about, uh, 115 00:06:27,690 --> 00:06:31,090 S1: Bob Murfin, who makes your morning the last time that 116 00:06:31,089 --> 00:06:34,050 S1: you were here, that contest. But he didn't start in 117 00:06:34,050 --> 00:06:37,370 S1: the 70s. He started in the late 40s on the 118 00:06:37,529 --> 00:06:38,850 S1: morning program. Is that true? 119 00:06:39,529 --> 00:06:44,089 S3: Yes. Actually, Bob was the youth pastor at Moody Memorial 120 00:06:44,089 --> 00:06:48,330 S3: Church and quite a popular guy even then. Uh, we 121 00:06:48,330 --> 00:06:52,010 S3: have some video of him leading singing on the church. 122 00:06:52,010 --> 00:06:55,450 S3: The church actually had a radio program themselves, but Bob 123 00:06:55,450 --> 00:06:59,650 S3: was involved in radio. Early on 1949, he took the 124 00:06:59,650 --> 00:07:05,610 S3: place of Robert Gerdes. Robert Gerdes went on to work 125 00:07:05,610 --> 00:07:09,890 S3: in Christian films. But yeah, Bob was entrenched there. Bob 126 00:07:09,890 --> 00:07:13,770 S3: was also an author. In 1951, Moody Press, now Moody 127 00:07:13,770 --> 00:07:19,210 S3: publishers published ideas and programs for Christian youth leaders, and 128 00:07:19,210 --> 00:07:25,050 S3: Bob had some pretty interesting, interesting ideas about reaching youth. 129 00:07:25,410 --> 00:07:29,090 S1: He was very animated, too. He could. He's getting you 130 00:07:29,090 --> 00:07:32,890 S1: up and all that. In 1970 he came back and 131 00:07:32,890 --> 00:07:35,930 S1: this clip, he's a little more reserved. But here's a 132 00:07:35,930 --> 00:07:38,290 S1: little bit from Morning Clock with Bob Murfin. 133 00:07:38,290 --> 00:07:41,850 S5: Four and a half after eight. The temperatures up are 134 00:07:41,850 --> 00:07:45,850 S5: 8:00 reading 69. Now, as we push on up toward 135 00:07:45,850 --> 00:07:49,890 S5: that 90 mark for today, you can just figure by 136 00:07:49,890 --> 00:07:51,970 S5: the time that thing really begins to go up, it's 137 00:07:51,970 --> 00:07:56,410 S5: going to go right straight up, isn't it? Earlier today 138 00:07:56,410 --> 00:07:58,650 S5: we were chatting with Bev Shea. We had some of 139 00:07:58,650 --> 00:08:02,650 S5: his songs on his new record called The Old Rugged Cross. 140 00:08:03,210 --> 00:08:06,490 S5: Through the years you've become quite contemporary, Bev, in some 141 00:08:06,490 --> 00:08:09,690 S5: of your songs. And so but basically I get the 142 00:08:09,690 --> 00:08:12,050 S5: feel you still like to come back and do the 143 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:13,290 S5: old ones well. 144 00:08:13,330 --> 00:08:16,610 S4: Well, I like to be realistic with my age class. 145 00:08:16,610 --> 00:08:20,930 S4: And yeah, I do appreciate the newer singers here, Doug 146 00:08:20,970 --> 00:08:25,970 S4: Oldham and Dave Boyer and Frank Boggs sings so well. 147 00:08:25,970 --> 00:08:27,810 S4: And then you had some of the female singers I 148 00:08:27,850 --> 00:08:30,170 S4: hear on the station. Yeah. Now and then. 149 00:08:30,210 --> 00:08:30,810 S5: Yeah. 150 00:08:30,930 --> 00:08:33,250 S4: We have Evie, who works with us in our crusades 151 00:08:33,250 --> 00:08:33,810 S4: quite a bit. 152 00:08:33,850 --> 00:08:37,370 S5: Yes. You enjoy Evie. She's a remarkable young lady. 153 00:08:37,410 --> 00:08:40,210 S4: She's a really. She really is. She's just about 22, 154 00:08:40,250 --> 00:08:44,770 S4: going on 23 now. And she's, uh, you know, just 155 00:08:44,809 --> 00:08:47,530 S4: sort of a kid, like. But she's, uh, truly loves 156 00:08:47,530 --> 00:08:50,820 S4: the Lord And she's a praying girl. Yeah. 157 00:08:51,059 --> 00:08:54,500 S5: You know, I mentioned the, um, the youthfulness of her, 158 00:08:54,660 --> 00:08:57,940 S5: but sometimes I get the feeling that she has lived 159 00:08:57,940 --> 00:09:01,660 S5: and is living at a deeper level with the Lord 160 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:03,500 S5: than contemporary people. 161 00:09:03,540 --> 00:09:06,059 S4: She gave me a recording that she made in Sweden 162 00:09:06,220 --> 00:09:09,260 S4: when she was age 15, and she has the. I'd 163 00:09:09,260 --> 00:09:12,660 S4: rather have Jesus in Swedish. Oh. And the whole record, 164 00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:15,620 S4: of course, is in Swedish, you know. And, uh. Yeah. 165 00:09:15,660 --> 00:09:19,780 S4: But it's amazing what, uh, what's happening to her? And she, 166 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:22,660 S4: she give praise to God for all of this. 167 00:09:22,700 --> 00:09:23,140 S5: Yeah. 168 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:27,300 S1: That right there, you can hear what Bob would do 169 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:31,420 S1: is kind of lean in and talk just like you would. 170 00:09:31,420 --> 00:09:33,980 S1: You felt like you're around the table with him when 171 00:09:33,980 --> 00:09:35,459 S1: he had a guest on. Right. Phil? 172 00:09:36,260 --> 00:09:41,620 S3: Well, it was and I to engineered his program at times. And, uh, 173 00:09:41,620 --> 00:09:44,460 S3: he had the strangest cuz I would engineer him in 174 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:47,380 S3: the morning time and I would engineer Jim Warren in 175 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:51,420 S3: the afternoon. And there were miscues at times between learning 176 00:09:51,420 --> 00:09:54,380 S3: what one wanted and the other one expected. Yes. 177 00:09:54,780 --> 00:09:58,380 S1: But Bob Bob was, as Greg was saying a minute ago, 178 00:09:58,420 --> 00:10:02,380 S1: he he had such character and he had such color 179 00:10:02,380 --> 00:10:06,219 S1: with everything. And coming from the farm he would. He 180 00:10:06,220 --> 00:10:09,300 S1: could tell the stories, you know, that happened to us 181 00:10:09,300 --> 00:10:13,819 S1: on the farm, as well as get down to theological truth. 182 00:10:13,820 --> 00:10:16,699 S1: And as he has. He played the songs and got 183 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:17,700 S1: people up in the morning. 184 00:10:17,740 --> 00:10:22,020 S3: Well, Bob, Bob could um, he could take any news 185 00:10:22,020 --> 00:10:26,100 S3: item and turn it around into a presentation of the gospel. 186 00:10:26,580 --> 00:10:29,540 S3: I can't remember the story, but there was one about 187 00:10:29,540 --> 00:10:33,180 S3: a whale and it was it was quite a tale. 188 00:10:33,380 --> 00:10:35,380 S3: Let me let me share with you something that he 189 00:10:35,380 --> 00:10:39,660 S3: did back in the 1940s. He had the idea to 190 00:10:39,700 --> 00:10:42,860 S3: get kids to come to church, his idea. And he 191 00:10:42,860 --> 00:10:46,340 S3: put this in the Chicago Tribune. His plan was to 192 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:50,620 S3: give each child who brought at least two children a kitten. 193 00:10:51,020 --> 00:10:54,300 S3: And so he was giving kittens away to get kids 194 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:58,220 S3: to come to church. Obviously, the objective was to bring 195 00:10:58,220 --> 00:11:02,220 S3: kids in to hear the gospel, but that was Bob Murfin. Yes. 196 00:11:02,620 --> 00:11:06,260 S1: That's that's exactly it. The other thing he did was 197 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:09,939 S1: a cup of cold water. And I remember when Andrea 198 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:14,020 S1: was engineering and they didn't have someone that they wanted to, 199 00:11:14,059 --> 00:11:16,900 S1: you know, to pinpoint for this. And she said, well, 200 00:11:16,940 --> 00:11:19,260 S1: my brother's in the Navy and he's over in Subic 201 00:11:19,260 --> 00:11:24,020 S1: Bay in the Philippines. And so they gave her brother's 202 00:11:24,059 --> 00:11:28,620 S1: address at Subic Bay. And months later he said, what 203 00:11:28,620 --> 00:11:31,140 S1: in the world did you do? People think I'm a 204 00:11:31,140 --> 00:11:34,860 S1: celebrity over here. I'm getting sacks and sacks of mail 205 00:11:35,340 --> 00:11:39,459 S1: from people in Chicago. And he couldn't believe the response 206 00:11:39,460 --> 00:11:43,460 S1: of the people that were writing in. That's Bob Murfin. 207 00:11:43,460 --> 00:11:46,460 S1: And if you were in Cleveland. Bob Devine and the 208 00:11:46,460 --> 00:11:49,459 S1: Clock Watcher program got you up in the morning, as 209 00:11:49,460 --> 00:11:52,380 S1: well as Nature Corner and Storybook Room. We're going to 210 00:11:52,380 --> 00:11:55,060 S1: take a break. Phil, thanks for your work on this book. 211 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:58,660 S1: This is Moody Radio 100 years proclaiming the Gospel Hour. 212 00:11:58,660 --> 00:12:03,260 S1: Thank you right now. Chris Fabry live.org. Chris Fabry live 213 00:12:03,260 --> 00:12:07,099 S1: dot ORG. More straight ahead on Moody Radio. 214 00:12:09,260 --> 00:12:16,420 S6: Give them all, give them all, give them all to Jesus. 215 00:12:23,780 --> 00:12:26,140 S1: We are paying tribute to that which has gone before 216 00:12:26,140 --> 00:12:30,179 S1: us here at Moody Radio from 1926 to the present. 217 00:12:30,179 --> 00:12:33,660 S1: Many people have invested time, talent and treasure and a 218 00:12:33,660 --> 00:12:36,900 S1: fair amount of caffeine in order to get you up 219 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:40,420 S1: in the morning. And the first guest that I had here, 220 00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:44,820 S1: Greg Wheatley, worked with me in the 90s. Actually, Greg, 221 00:12:44,820 --> 00:12:47,579 S1: we started on the day that Dan Rather and Connie 222 00:12:47,620 --> 00:12:52,660 S1: Chung began CBS news together. This was a big experiment, 223 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:54,780 S1: and we lasted longer than they did, which I think 224 00:12:54,780 --> 00:12:56,260 S1: is our claim to fame, don't you? 225 00:12:56,540 --> 00:12:59,780 S2: Well, it is. I mean, what a what an auspicious beginning, right? 226 00:12:59,820 --> 00:13:01,780 S2: But we outlasted them. 227 00:13:01,820 --> 00:13:05,460 S1: So what is your morning moment? I'm asking everybody to 228 00:13:05,460 --> 00:13:08,820 S1: give me one little snapshot of the morning that you remember. 229 00:13:09,780 --> 00:13:12,939 S2: You know, there's so many, Chris. So many. Every day 230 00:13:12,940 --> 00:13:16,180 S2: was a moment. Um, the one I think. And as 231 00:13:16,179 --> 00:13:18,179 S2: soon as I say this you're going to go, oh yeah. 232 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:21,820 S2: You had to sort of be up a little before 233 00:13:22,179 --> 00:13:25,540 S2: mornings began to get this one. But I arrived one 234 00:13:25,540 --> 00:13:30,980 S2: morning and, uh, there was nobody there. There was no engineer. 235 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:35,260 S2: Some something had happened to our engineer. Uh, Chris, I 236 00:13:35,260 --> 00:13:37,660 S2: think a lot of people know that, uh, sometimes you 237 00:13:37,660 --> 00:13:41,540 S2: worked from a home studio, and so you weren't there, 238 00:13:41,940 --> 00:13:44,660 S2: But that was expected. But but no engineer. 239 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:46,620 S1: Even when I was there, I wasn't there. 240 00:13:46,660 --> 00:13:49,260 S2: Even when you were there. But you know, that's another story. 241 00:13:50,140 --> 00:13:53,020 S2: But no one there. And so you have to understand, 242 00:13:53,020 --> 00:13:55,939 S2: I had not been in front of an audio board, 243 00:13:56,260 --> 00:13:58,900 S2: at least not at that one in a long time. 244 00:13:59,420 --> 00:14:01,819 S2: As Bob Murfin used to say, he said, I make 245 00:14:01,820 --> 00:14:06,100 S2: it a point to not learn this board, but I 246 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:08,620 S2: did not know what I was doing. And so it 247 00:14:08,620 --> 00:14:12,260 S2: came time for the program to start and I could 248 00:14:12,260 --> 00:14:15,819 S2: not figure out what to do. There are recordings extant 249 00:14:15,820 --> 00:14:20,060 S2: of that moment. Uh and, uh, it was just one 250 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:23,140 S2: awful moment. And, uh, you know, the panic, just the 251 00:14:23,140 --> 00:14:26,620 S2: panic in my you could hear it in my voice, right? Yes. Uh, 252 00:14:26,620 --> 00:14:29,859 S2: what what do I do here? So that's, that's my moment. 253 00:14:31,540 --> 00:14:36,340 S1: And those were extrapolated over many times in many different situations. 254 00:14:36,340 --> 00:14:39,740 S1: Do you remember when Peter Jennings came on the program 255 00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:40,340 S1: with us? 256 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:43,590 S2: Oh, yes. I still have a recording of that. Yeah. Yeah. 257 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:43,830 S1: Really? 258 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:44,310 S2: Yeah. Okay. 259 00:14:44,590 --> 00:14:47,310 S1: So and I remember the argument that we had an 260 00:14:47,310 --> 00:14:51,270 S1: hour before it where I wanted to do a call 261 00:14:51,270 --> 00:14:55,430 S1: in about. Yeah. And it was because I always went 262 00:14:55,430 --> 00:14:58,470 S1: a little, a little to the goofier side than you did. 263 00:14:58,510 --> 00:15:00,710 S1: And that's one of the things I loved about working 264 00:15:00,710 --> 00:15:02,870 S1: with you is you were kind of the, the straight 265 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:05,990 S1: laced guy, though, as I got to know you more, 266 00:15:06,110 --> 00:15:09,750 S1: it's like you had such fun. We had fun with words. 267 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:12,510 S1: We had all kinds of fun. But there were there 268 00:15:12,510 --> 00:15:14,910 S1: were moments of friction that we that we had to 269 00:15:14,910 --> 00:15:17,030 S1: work out just like any family. Right? 270 00:15:17,390 --> 00:15:20,630 S2: Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Um, we could name some others, but 271 00:15:20,630 --> 00:15:23,510 S2: we won't. Um, I'm trying to remember now what our 272 00:15:23,510 --> 00:15:26,430 S2: debate was about Peter Jennings. Was it what we wanted 273 00:15:26,430 --> 00:15:27,510 S2: to do with the interview? 274 00:15:27,550 --> 00:15:31,670 S1: Yeah. No, it was, it was I wanted people, I 275 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:37,150 S1: wanted people to call in and ask and suggest questions. 276 00:15:37,150 --> 00:15:40,990 S1: That would be kind of funny. silly not to before. 277 00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:41,470 S1: Not before. 278 00:15:41,470 --> 00:15:41,790 S2: He got. 279 00:15:41,790 --> 00:15:44,590 S1: There. Yeah. Not to ask him, but to just say, hey, 280 00:15:44,590 --> 00:15:47,030 S1: what would you what would you ask? You know, shoe 281 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:49,150 S1: size and that kind of thing. And you thought, no, 282 00:15:49,190 --> 00:15:51,710 S1: that's no, we shouldn't do that. And we didn't. And 283 00:15:51,710 --> 00:15:53,990 S1: I think you were right looking back, but I was 284 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:54,710 S1: kind of hurt. 285 00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:59,350 S2: Well, I hope you've forgiven me. I have. 286 00:15:59,510 --> 00:16:02,590 S1: But I brought it up here today to say, as 287 00:16:02,590 --> 00:16:05,710 S1: I listen back to the the audio that we have, 288 00:16:06,110 --> 00:16:10,430 S1: I hear people who first of all, like in a 289 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:13,750 S1: morning program is like going to battle every day with 290 00:16:13,750 --> 00:16:18,350 S1: yourself as well as all of the elements to get up, 291 00:16:18,390 --> 00:16:21,270 S1: you know, and to do this thing. And if you 292 00:16:21,310 --> 00:16:25,590 S1: are working with people that you really like, that is a, 293 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:28,150 S1: that is a plus. And all the morning shows that 294 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:31,150 S1: you're going to hear about here today that has happened. 295 00:16:31,190 --> 00:16:35,350 S1: These people really care about each other. And the next one. Chris, 296 00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:37,550 S1: do you have the do you have the clip? This 297 00:16:37,550 --> 00:16:42,430 S1: is from the morning program, from the night we we 298 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:47,030 S1: stopped in 99. Greg and then Mark and Dave came 299 00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:49,390 S1: on after us and here's what it sounded like. 300 00:16:50,190 --> 00:16:53,110 S7: I drove past what you did to past Comiskey this morning. Yes. 301 00:16:53,150 --> 00:16:55,550 S7: And they're still cleaning up after the ball game last night. 302 00:16:55,550 --> 00:16:57,670 S7: I think they have. I think I saw a promotion 303 00:16:57,670 --> 00:17:01,350 S7: there for, uh, Magglio Ordonez. Wobbly heads. Yeah. 304 00:17:01,710 --> 00:17:03,470 S8: I think they're called bobblehead dolls. 305 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:05,630 S7: Bobblehead dolls? Yeah. They're going to give those away to 306 00:17:05,670 --> 00:17:07,790 S7: upcoming game here. Yeah. Are those those things that we 307 00:17:07,790 --> 00:17:08,949 S7: used to see that kind of sit in the back 308 00:17:08,950 --> 00:17:09,869 S7: window and kind of just. 309 00:17:09,910 --> 00:17:10,470 S8: Bounce up and down. 310 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:10,949 S7: Bounce up and. 311 00:17:10,950 --> 00:17:12,830 S8: Down. They were big back in the 60s. You know, 312 00:17:13,310 --> 00:17:15,310 S8: still has some like Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle ones, 313 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:16,790 S8: you know. Oh yeah. Yeah. 314 00:17:17,150 --> 00:17:19,630 S7: I was kind of thinking that, uh, when our next 315 00:17:19,630 --> 00:17:20,550 S7: chair came around. 316 00:17:20,950 --> 00:17:21,790 S8: It'd be kind of fun. 317 00:17:21,869 --> 00:17:23,830 S7: Kind of have maybe. I wonder if Doctor Stoll would 318 00:17:23,830 --> 00:17:25,869 S7: allow us to. You don't think so. 319 00:17:25,910 --> 00:17:26,990 S8: Well, no. He might. 320 00:17:27,030 --> 00:17:28,590 S7: How about Don Cole said see? 321 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:30,550 S8: See, doctor Stoll is a big Yankees fan. The fact 322 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:33,389 S8: that he would be immortalized the same way that DiMaggio 323 00:17:33,390 --> 00:17:35,950 S8: and Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford. You know, I think 324 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:36,510 S8: he'd like that. 325 00:17:36,550 --> 00:17:37,949 S7: How about you? Could we make one of you? Could 326 00:17:37,950 --> 00:17:38,710 S7: we make a bobblehead? 327 00:17:38,750 --> 00:17:40,430 S8: It wouldn't be tough at all. Yeah, I do that 328 00:17:40,430 --> 00:17:41,390 S8: all the time anyway. 329 00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:44,109 S7: I'd be willing if they wanted to make me a bobblehead. 330 00:17:44,670 --> 00:17:47,510 S8: Now you're saying you're saying these would be premiums for. 331 00:17:47,550 --> 00:17:49,910 S9: Not me. Not. I just thought I'd share that. 332 00:17:50,030 --> 00:17:52,149 S8: Are you saying these would be premiums for people who 333 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:53,950 S8: would contribute to share? Is that what you're saying? 334 00:17:54,670 --> 00:17:57,230 S7: Well, yeah, you could kind of pick from your line 335 00:17:57,270 --> 00:17:59,270 S7: of the MBI bobbleheads. 336 00:17:59,310 --> 00:18:01,229 S8: Well, then you give, then you give again. And then 337 00:18:01,230 --> 00:18:02,790 S8: of course you get another one. You know, you could 338 00:18:02,830 --> 00:18:03,909 S8: complete your collection. 339 00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:05,230 S7: Wayne and Anita. 340 00:18:05,550 --> 00:18:09,109 S8: You get the entire set and collect yours. Just just 341 00:18:09,109 --> 00:18:10,550 S8: watch our heads bouncing up and back. 342 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:13,990 S1: I'll get a whole set. And for Christmas, here he is, 343 00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:18,870 S1: lifetime journalist. He's worked in Sacramento, Dallas, Pittsburgh. Came to Chicago, 344 00:18:18,910 --> 00:18:23,110 S1: hosted the morning ride from 1999 to 2013, founder of 345 00:18:23,109 --> 00:18:26,030 S1: the Elf Strand Group and a cultural affairs writer with 346 00:18:26,030 --> 00:18:30,550 S1: the Illinois Family Institute. Mark Elf Strand. Mark, what goes 347 00:18:30,550 --> 00:18:33,110 S1: through your mind when you hear those voices? 348 00:18:33,550 --> 00:18:35,470 S10: Well, a lot of fun times, of course, but I 349 00:18:35,470 --> 00:18:40,270 S10: had to follow the inimitable Chris Fabry. And, uh, that's 350 00:18:40,270 --> 00:18:43,070 S10: why today I just refer to myself as Wally the Snowflake. 351 00:18:43,109 --> 00:18:44,510 S10: Do you ever heard of that guy before? 352 00:18:45,550 --> 00:18:45,830 S1: Yeah. 353 00:18:45,869 --> 00:18:48,310 S2: Greg has two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 354 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:50,030 S1: You know, the other person who came in there was 355 00:18:50,030 --> 00:18:53,710 S1: Diana Berriman. She just jumped in there. Yes. She has 356 00:18:53,950 --> 00:18:57,430 S1: spanned all of these years. Mark, did you realize that? 357 00:18:58,030 --> 00:19:00,389 S10: Yeah. You know, she not only has she, but she 358 00:19:00,869 --> 00:19:04,030 S10: never aged in any of that time. That's what's remarkable. 359 00:19:06,109 --> 00:19:09,750 S1: Okay, Diana, jump in here. Tell me, tell me your 360 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:11,030 S1: morning moment. 361 00:19:12,190 --> 00:19:15,030 S11: My morning moment with Mark. Or just in general. 362 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:18,629 S1: In anything you want to say, the floor is yours. 363 00:19:19,109 --> 00:19:22,750 S11: Oh my goodness, I, without even going into tears because 364 00:19:22,750 --> 00:19:24,990 S11: I've been praying about this, I wouldn't even know where 365 00:19:24,990 --> 00:19:28,109 S11: to begin because, oh, I am going to start crying. Um. 366 00:19:28,109 --> 00:19:31,389 S11: I have been beyond blessed in all seriousness, to be 367 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:35,550 S11: part of the morning shows from Bob Murfin through you 368 00:19:35,550 --> 00:19:40,070 S11: and Greg through Mark, my dear friend Dave. Um, the 369 00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:43,389 S11: interim time. Carl and Junie, Carl and crew and all national. 370 00:19:43,869 --> 00:19:47,989 S11: I can't even believe or fathom. That was even in 371 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:52,470 S11: my tapestry of of being able to do something like this. 372 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:55,629 S11: And this has just been phenomenal. And it has been 373 00:19:55,630 --> 00:20:00,670 S11: a beautiful time of joy and learning and just the listeners, 374 00:20:00,670 --> 00:20:03,510 S11: that is the best part of anything with morning is 375 00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:07,030 S11: the listeners. I'm telling you, it is the listeners. 376 00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:09,230 S1: They love you, Diana. They do. Okay. I want to 377 00:20:09,230 --> 00:20:11,750 S1: ask you a question. I didn't ask you this before. 378 00:20:11,790 --> 00:20:14,550 S1: If I if I could ask you this. Sorry, Greg. Um, 379 00:20:15,550 --> 00:20:19,350 S1: were you Bob was the first contact you had with 380 00:20:19,390 --> 00:20:22,109 S1: Moody Radio. You weren't working for Moody Radio then you 381 00:20:22,150 --> 00:20:25,750 S1: were at Shadow Traffic, I think. Um, correct. Would you 382 00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:29,550 S1: say you were in a different spiritual place than than 383 00:20:29,550 --> 00:20:30,510 S1: you are today? 384 00:20:31,310 --> 00:20:34,280 S11: Oh, hands down. I actually was not a Christian. The 385 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,480 S11: call came from Monty Lyric newsman at the time for 386 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,159 S11: Bob Murfin, and they were looking for some traffic and 387 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,119 S11: some things like that of that nature, which my company 388 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,040 S11: was able to, you know, offer. And going through some 389 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,920 S11: of the different reporters in the morning. Moody was the 390 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,320 S11: only only station that fit actually in my schedule. My 391 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,360 S11: schedule was the only one that allowed it. And I'm like, 392 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:59,080 S11: what's moody? To be honest? And just through walking through 393 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,320 S11: it came to Christ. Even on the 94th floor of 394 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,400 S11: the observatory. 395 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:03,919 S8: Wow. 396 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,320 S11: Began working with Bob Murfin. He and his wife Jessie. 397 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:12,360 S11: Phenomenal mentors in that very precious, fragile time in my 398 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,760 S11: walk of faith and really coming out of it and 399 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,920 S11: going into it almost alone, really at that time, had 400 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,720 S11: no one around me, but then just morphed into my 401 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,159 S11: faith and it grew. And, uh, yeah, just following through 402 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,440 S11: and lo and behold, I get the call in 97. Hey, 403 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,600 S11: you want to join these? Uh, you know, because I 404 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:31,920 S11: had been. 405 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,280 S12: Working there. 406 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,320 S11: For a while by the time I joined, you know, 407 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,919 S11: I was a Christian and things were beautiful. And then 408 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,840 S11: I came across full time to Moody. 409 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,879 S1: That's a great story. Greg, what were you going to. 410 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,840 S2: I did not. Well, I didn't know that. Diana. Um, 411 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,639 S2: by the way, nice to talk to you again. Um, yeah, 412 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,520 S2: I did not know that. Know what I wanted to 413 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,760 S2: ask her was how come she had all that longevity? 414 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,919 S2: What gave you the lasting power that you were there? 415 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,280 S2: You you really stayed. 416 00:21:59,280 --> 00:21:59,919 S1: In her lane. 417 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:00,520 S2: Change. 418 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,480 S1: She stayed in her lane. She did what she was 419 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,359 S1: supposed to do. Right, Diana. 420 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,280 S11: Well, that's exactly it. And just like a chameleon, like 421 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,840 S11: through the different shows, through the different personalities, through the 422 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,280 S11: different hosts. Again, to say how blessed and honored and 423 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,560 S11: joyful I am. I can't even put into words, I 424 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,359 S11: really can't. 425 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,800 S1: That's great. That's so neat. I'm so glad you got 426 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,439 S1: on here. And now. Mark. Mark, you work with Diana for, 427 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,320 S1: you know, all those years. What is your morning moment? 428 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,800 S10: Well, just before I answer that question, we should mention 429 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,320 S10: that when Diana first told the people at Moody, you know, 430 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,480 S10: I love this so much, I do it for free. 431 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,760 S10: They took her up on that, and that's why she's 432 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,840 S10: been there for so long. 433 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,639 S2: Wow. That explains it. 434 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,840 S10: Yes. Well, that was the question about the moody moment. 435 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,240 S10: That's not hard at all. It would come from, uh, 436 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,880 S10: nine over 11. Um, as I'm sitting in the chair 437 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,080 S10: and all of a sudden, Dave Mitchell says he wants 438 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,600 S10: to come on the air with me. I've got an 439 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,719 S10: important announcement. And then he tells me that this plane 440 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,280 S10: has crashed into the one of the towers at the 441 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,560 S10: World Trade Center. And, you know, we're kind of all 442 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,520 S10: sitting there going, well, what was this? And so we 443 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,880 S10: have audio of that. Obviously, that can be played if 444 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,040 S10: we wanted to hear it. But the point was that 445 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,879 S10: that was kind of the interruption to start the morning. 446 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,560 S10: And then just a couple of moments later, uh, and 447 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,720 S10: it was just a few moments later, he comes back 448 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,639 S10: and says, I have another announcement. And then there was 449 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,720 S10: a second plane. And I remember getting up out of 450 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,720 S10: my chair. After that, we took a little break and 451 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,480 S10: I went out to the front office and I said, 452 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,480 S10: you know, if they can do that in New York, 453 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,439 S10: they can do this in Washington, D.C. and by the 454 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,640 S10: time the news had ended, the announcement came on that, 455 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,280 S10: of course, a plane did go down into the Pentagon, 456 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:50,159 S10: and that whole morning shifted dramatically. By 9:00, we started 457 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,640 S10: to go into the 9:00 programming. But just within about 458 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,560 S10: 15 minutes, uh, Bob Neff came down and said, we're 459 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,200 S10: not going to do this. We're going to just go. 460 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,400 S10: And you could tell Doctor Stohl and the whole board 461 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,760 S10: had come downstairs and the center studio to watch the television. 462 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,840 S10: So nobody's mind was on whatever their business meeting was about. 463 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,800 S10: They all wanted to know what was happening with those 464 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,879 S10: planes and what was going on in New York. So 465 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,439 S10: it was quite the day Wayne Shepherd came down. Um, 466 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,200 S10: he joined us on air and it was I was 467 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,480 S10: there not until 9:00. I was there until noon that day. 468 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,320 S1: Yeah. That will change. And isn't that what morning? The 469 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,320 S1: morning show is all about? It's about taking being able 470 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,199 S1: to take the detour. If you. And that one was easy. 471 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,480 S1: But there are detours that you take with callers. There 472 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,280 S1: are detours that you take with topics. One thing comes 473 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,240 S1: up and you follow that trail, you know, to go 474 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,840 S1: on so that you're, you're meeting the listener where they are. Right? 475 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,159 S10: Right. Yeah. And, and the thing is, the listener, uh, 476 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,680 S10: doesn't quite understand the dynamic of what's happening in the studio, 477 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,679 S10: but there's a lot of shuffling and things going around. 478 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,920 S10: In fact, that morning of nine over 11, they must 479 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,480 S10: have had 7 or 8 people, uh, taking notes. People 480 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,240 S10: were calling in, people were wondering what's going on. And 481 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,960 S10: of course, uh, other radio stations might have been covering 482 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,800 S10: it as a news thing, but our, our desire was 483 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,720 S10: to bring the faith component in. And that's why Doctor 484 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,600 S10: Stowell joined us to pray on the air. And it 485 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,760 S10: was just a very different dynamic and flowing only the 486 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,320 S10: way that live radio can. 487 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,720 S1: Yeah, that's Mark Elfstrom. We are highlighting and giving a 488 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,520 S1: tribute to morning shows on Moody Radio through the years, 489 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,640 S1: all the way back to 1926 to the present. And 490 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040 S1: if you go to Chris Fabry live.org, we have a 491 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,520 S1: special book. Our thank you is this is Moody Radio 492 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,480 S1: 100 years Proclaiming the gospel, written by Phil Shapard and 493 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,400 S1: Kevin Mongan's. We're sending this to you. If you give 494 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,240 S1: a gift of any size, today would be a great 495 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,960 S1: day to hear from you. Go to Chris Fabry live.org. 496 00:25:48,240 --> 00:26:08,800 S1: Chris Fabry live.org. We are paying tribute to Morning Radio 497 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,280 S1: at Moody Radio from 1926 until the present, and I 498 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,800 S1: got Greg Wheatley with me in the 9093 to 99. 499 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,840 S1: Greg and I were behind the microphones and we picked 500 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,040 S1: up where Bob Murfin left off. And I want to 501 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,570 S1: tell a story because Mark Elfstrom told a story in 502 00:26:24,570 --> 00:26:27,610 S1: the break. And this will fit in here. I don't 503 00:26:27,609 --> 00:26:29,970 S1: know if you remember this, Greg, but we were out 504 00:26:30,010 --> 00:26:35,610 S1: right after we had begun in May of 93, and 505 00:26:35,609 --> 00:26:38,770 S1: we were at a concert or doing whatever in the 506 00:26:38,770 --> 00:26:43,490 S1: community where they pushed us. And I remember an older 507 00:26:43,530 --> 00:26:47,609 S1: woman coming up and the look on her face was 508 00:26:47,609 --> 00:26:53,450 S1: she was just abject anger and, you know, real struggle. 509 00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:56,170 S1: And she was she was as kind as she could be. 510 00:26:56,170 --> 00:26:59,810 S1: But she really let me know. And I think you 511 00:26:59,810 --> 00:27:02,290 S1: were there too, that that what we were doing in 512 00:27:02,290 --> 00:27:06,810 S1: the morning was just terrible. And what she wanted was 513 00:27:06,810 --> 00:27:10,290 S1: Bob and his humor. And I don't get your humor 514 00:27:10,290 --> 00:27:13,210 S1: and I and it's it's a travesty. And you don't 515 00:27:13,210 --> 00:27:15,209 S1: do the whole, you know, it was all the things 516 00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:20,010 S1: comparing A to B and I, I took it, I 517 00:27:20,050 --> 00:27:23,649 S1: listened to her and I, and I said, That's coming 518 00:27:23,650 --> 00:27:26,490 S1: from a place of pain, and it's coming from a 519 00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:29,570 S1: place that she has lost something really good. So it's 520 00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:31,970 S1: like I moved on from that. It it hurt, but 521 00:27:31,970 --> 00:27:35,129 S1: I moved on from it. Six years later, as we're 522 00:27:35,130 --> 00:27:38,169 S1: leaving and Mark strand is about to come along, though 523 00:27:38,170 --> 00:27:41,690 S1: we didn't know at the time, um, we were out 524 00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:44,850 S1: at something and the same lady came up to me. 525 00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:47,410 S1: I didn't recognize her and she, she put her hand 526 00:27:47,410 --> 00:27:50,730 S1: on my arm and she said, I need to apologize 527 00:27:50,730 --> 00:27:53,450 S1: to you. And I said, what for? And she said, 528 00:27:53,450 --> 00:27:55,330 S1: six years ago, I came up to you at one 529 00:27:55,330 --> 00:27:57,609 S1: of these things, and I was. I was ugly to you, 530 00:27:57,609 --> 00:28:00,050 S1: and I was mean to you. And she said, I 531 00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:02,130 S1: didn't get your humor, and I didn't like the music 532 00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:04,410 S1: and I didn't, you know, all this a B thing. 533 00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:09,449 S1: And she said, but I have been praying for decades 534 00:28:09,730 --> 00:28:13,250 S1: that my kids would follow in our footsteps and follow 535 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:17,330 S1: in faith. And the other day my son called and said, mom, 536 00:28:17,369 --> 00:28:19,810 S1: did you hear what they said on Moody this morning? 537 00:28:20,530 --> 00:28:23,810 S1: And she said, I had to come and apologize to 538 00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:29,050 S1: you because God answered my prayer through you two goofballs. 539 00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:32,850 S1: She didn't say it that way, but she said, I 540 00:28:32,890 --> 00:28:36,250 S1: see what God was doing and I was just hurting 541 00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:39,970 S1: back then. And so that's the story. Now, Mark, you 542 00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:42,930 S1: pick up from there because you took up after us, right? 543 00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:46,250 S10: Yeah. And of course, it's always difficult when there's a 544 00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:49,050 S10: program change because you start getting cards and letters from 545 00:28:49,050 --> 00:28:52,370 S10: a lot of people. And what they're saying is, why 546 00:28:52,370 --> 00:28:55,890 S10: did they hire this guy? Uh, because we like the 547 00:28:55,890 --> 00:28:59,130 S10: other people. Well, sure, because that's how radio works. You 548 00:28:59,130 --> 00:29:02,650 S10: develop a relationship with listeners. And so when somebody new 549 00:29:02,650 --> 00:29:05,050 S10: comes on and you go, oh, no, no, that's not 550 00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:08,090 S10: what I wanted. And then over time, people get accustomed 551 00:29:08,090 --> 00:29:10,250 S10: to you or new people come on. And and that 552 00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:12,690 S10: whole thing shifts. So, uh, well, first of all, just 553 00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:15,729 S10: to that point, I'm hoping that Carl and crew received 554 00:29:15,730 --> 00:29:18,530 S10: that same kind of treatment that I got when I 555 00:29:18,770 --> 00:29:20,770 S10: know I'm just kind of kidding you on that. But 556 00:29:21,970 --> 00:29:24,410 S10: that is the reality of when you do program changes, 557 00:29:24,410 --> 00:29:27,209 S10: that there's people going to be dissatisfied for a season 558 00:29:27,210 --> 00:29:29,650 S10: until things just adjust. But you want me to tell 559 00:29:29,690 --> 00:29:30,770 S10: my Greg Wheatley story? 560 00:29:30,810 --> 00:29:31,770 S1: Yes, please. 561 00:29:32,290 --> 00:29:35,250 S10: Okay, so I was on the air for probably only 562 00:29:35,290 --> 00:29:39,010 S10: a few months, and I didn't know Greg at all. 563 00:29:39,010 --> 00:29:41,650 S10: And I didn't really know you at all. And all 564 00:29:41,650 --> 00:29:44,090 S10: of a sudden I get this call from Greg saying, hey, 565 00:29:44,090 --> 00:29:47,090 S10: why don't you come out to College Church in Wheaton? 566 00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:51,250 S10: And this is where we worship. And then, um, after 567 00:29:51,570 --> 00:29:55,010 S10: the service, we'd like to invite you over for lunch. 568 00:29:55,810 --> 00:29:59,770 S10: And I was like, almost dumbfounded that, you know, he'd 569 00:29:59,770 --> 00:30:03,290 S10: probably had his own pain with, uh, your show being, uh, 570 00:30:03,290 --> 00:30:05,810 S10: you know, terminated at that point. And yet he was 571 00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:09,050 S10: so gracious, so kind and his wife as well to 572 00:30:09,090 --> 00:30:11,690 S10: invite me over to their home. My wife would have come. 573 00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:15,210 S10: She hadn't moved out to Chicago yet. And, uh, just 574 00:30:15,210 --> 00:30:17,690 S10: I just loved the fellowship that we were able to 575 00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:18,810 S10: have with his family. 576 00:30:19,210 --> 00:30:22,690 S1: Yeah. And that's the family aspect of this, Greg. 577 00:30:23,370 --> 00:30:26,290 S2: Well, and it is so hard, you know, we're all 578 00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:29,570 S2: sharing these same stories because we've all been there. But 579 00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:33,810 S2: what a lesson to remember that as much as there 580 00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:37,290 S2: is this sort of transition pain, um, not just for 581 00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:40,850 S2: the listeners, but for us, you know, frankly. Um, but 582 00:30:40,850 --> 00:30:44,810 S2: as much as you experience that, uh, the lesson is, 583 00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:47,170 S2: you know, this is nothing personal. This is just the 584 00:30:47,170 --> 00:30:50,690 S2: way it works. And, um, there's a real, real life 585 00:30:50,690 --> 00:30:54,930 S2: lesson in there. So, boy, we ought to form a club. Right, guys? Yeah, yeah. 586 00:30:55,050 --> 00:30:57,250 S2: The former former morning hosts, uh. 587 00:30:57,250 --> 00:31:00,290 S1: God is at work. And here's another one. Here is 588 00:31:00,290 --> 00:31:05,930 S1: a broadcaster, podcaster, educator. He's worked in radio in Cleveland, Chicago, Minneapolis. 589 00:31:06,170 --> 00:31:09,890 S1: He hosted mornings with Brian on w CRF. You can 590 00:31:09,890 --> 00:31:12,290 S1: now see him and Laura and his co-host on the 591 00:31:12,290 --> 00:31:16,970 S1: Third Place podcast. Uh, founder, co-founder of Stained Glass Media, 592 00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:19,450 S1: Brian Dahlin Brian, how are you doing, friend? 593 00:31:19,850 --> 00:31:21,970 S13: I am honored to be hanging out with you guys. 594 00:31:22,930 --> 00:31:25,690 S1: You know, this this Mark L strand. He was a 595 00:31:25,690 --> 00:31:27,290 S1: fellow who mentored you, right? 596 00:31:28,170 --> 00:31:31,050 S13: Yeah. The only reason I'm in radio apart from God's sovereignty, 597 00:31:31,090 --> 00:31:34,010 S13: of course, is because Mark L strand took a chance 598 00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:37,410 S13: and hired a high school teacher from Minneapolis to produce 599 00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:39,850 S13: his morning show. And I think everybody on staff thought 600 00:31:39,850 --> 00:31:43,530 S13: he was nuts for doing this. Uh, and I'm not 601 00:31:43,530 --> 00:31:46,729 S13: sure how he felt, but after a while, um, yeah, 602 00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:50,370 S13: he he gave me more opportunity than I ever deserved 603 00:31:50,610 --> 00:31:53,730 S13: to be on the air and to produce his show. 604 00:31:54,290 --> 00:31:57,610 S13: And without his investment in me individually, I would have 605 00:31:57,610 --> 00:31:59,690 S13: never been able to get in radio, ever. 606 00:31:59,730 --> 00:32:01,170 S1: What did you learn from him? 607 00:32:02,370 --> 00:32:05,450 S13: Oh, he taught me how to do anything from back cell. 608 00:32:05,530 --> 00:32:08,690 S13: Get out of a song to how to connect with 609 00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:11,330 S13: a guest and disarm them a bit so they'd be 610 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:16,220 S13: relaxed on the air. He taught me how to communicate well. Um, 611 00:32:16,820 --> 00:32:19,220 S13: he taught me how to just do the mechanics of radio, 612 00:32:19,260 --> 00:32:22,260 S13: how to handle criticism. In fact, I remember when I 613 00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:25,820 S13: first started in Cleveland, I had kind of the same 614 00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:29,260 S13: welcome that you all were talking about. Uh, and I 615 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:32,580 S13: wrote to Mark and to you, Chris and I asked 616 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:36,140 S13: both of you for advice because I was barely hanging on. Yeah. Yeah. 617 00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:38,540 S13: And you both offered some wonderful words of wisdom that 618 00:32:38,540 --> 00:32:39,980 S13: you've already been sharing here. 619 00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:43,180 S1: Yeah. Uh, Mark, what do you say to Brian? 620 00:32:44,140 --> 00:32:47,540 S10: Well, there was a good reason for hiring him. We 621 00:32:47,540 --> 00:32:51,340 S10: actually had to work through human resources because Brian will testify. 622 00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:53,660 S10: They actually rejected his application. 623 00:32:53,980 --> 00:32:54,420 S13: That's correct. 624 00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:56,100 S10: The first time around. Is that correct, Brian? 625 00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:58,820 S13: Oh, yeah. I got a rejection letter in the mail. 626 00:32:58,940 --> 00:32:59,980 S13: So yeah. 627 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:02,220 S10: Which is very special. I hopefully you've saved that and 628 00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:05,340 S10: even framed it, but, uh, in any case, uh, then 629 00:33:05,380 --> 00:33:07,980 S10: what we actually had, I think it was Wayne Peterson 630 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:10,660 S10: who went downstairs and just said, we need to hire 631 00:33:10,660 --> 00:33:15,220 S10: this guy. And, uh, so Human Resources granted permission for that. 632 00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:19,100 S10: And you could tell that Brian was the multi-talented multi gifted, 633 00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:22,060 S10: and he actually had worked in some radio in terms 634 00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:25,300 S10: of a station in Minneapolis. And that's how we got connected. 635 00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:28,980 S10: And so once he came on board, I mean, he 636 00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:34,940 S10: proved himself so capable in so many areas so quickly. And, uh, 637 00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:36,940 S10: and not only that, but he's got a great sense 638 00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:39,860 S10: of humor and, uh, he just had a lot of kids, 639 00:33:39,860 --> 00:33:41,820 S10: which I'm sure gave him his sense of humor. 640 00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:46,420 S1: Because if you have a donkey and goats and all that. Right. Okay. And, 641 00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:49,620 S1: and so the lesson there is find somebody who believes 642 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:52,420 S1: in you. Find somebody who can lift you up. So. 643 00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:55,060 S1: So Brian, what is your morning moment? 644 00:33:56,060 --> 00:33:59,100 S13: Well, I mean, the, the moment for me is more 645 00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:02,260 S13: of a concept and it's, um, how much the people 646 00:34:02,260 --> 00:34:05,100 S13: I worked with over the years, uh, invested in me 647 00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,460 S13: and mattered to me. Now, of course, everybody brings up 648 00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:11,380 S13: lists or connections and that's really important. But radio is 649 00:34:11,380 --> 00:34:14,540 S13: such an intimate medium where there's just a small group 650 00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:18,259 S13: of us spending hours and hours. Having deep conversation in 651 00:34:18,260 --> 00:34:21,580 S13: front of people. And you develop friendships that will last 652 00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:24,540 S13: a lifetime. Um, for me here in Cleveland, it'll be 653 00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:28,740 S13: Ron and Daria and Lauren. Um, but at the same time, 654 00:34:28,739 --> 00:34:31,700 S13: I'll never forget all the people that invested in me 655 00:34:31,940 --> 00:34:33,980 S13: when I was working at WME as well. 656 00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:35,379 S3: Right. 657 00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:39,580 S1: And there's so much that we're seeing on, on Facebook 658 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:43,020 S1: about that kind of thing. Joe says, as I got 659 00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:46,379 S1: her kiddos ready for school, we all listened to Bob Murfin. 660 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:50,100 S1: Two of my fondest memories are the Chicago winning, the 661 00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:55,180 S1: best Chicago morning radio team and Bob singing oh, lutefisk. 662 00:34:55,660 --> 00:34:59,020 S1: Great times. Which takes us to the humor thing because 663 00:34:59,020 --> 00:35:02,660 S1: Brian people, they need the information. They need the the 664 00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:06,219 S1: deep communication. But they also need to laugh. Do you 665 00:35:06,219 --> 00:35:06,980 S1: agree with that? 666 00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:11,219 S13: Oh, absolutely. I, I already felt that just in who 667 00:35:11,219 --> 00:35:13,140 S13: I am as a person, how God made me. But 668 00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:17,180 S13: I saw Mark and Dave in Chicago just lean into that. Uh, 669 00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:22,299 S13: I remember when Mark aired an intentionally horrible version of 670 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:25,259 S13: O Holy Night by a guy who you can find 671 00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:27,660 S13: it on YouTube that he just butchered it on purpose. 672 00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:30,980 S13: And oh, did we laugh so hard. Uh, and I 673 00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:33,180 S13: tried to pick up some of that and just be 674 00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:35,660 S13: real and, and, you know, help people start their day 675 00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:39,900 S13: with serious conversation, but also as much laughing as we 676 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:40,860 S13: can possibly get. 677 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:43,940 S1: The other thing that happens here is, and you mentioned 678 00:35:43,980 --> 00:35:47,580 S1: nine over 11 Mark, and that is the warp and 679 00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:51,740 S1: woof of life, the real losses, because we heard Dave 680 00:35:51,739 --> 00:35:55,660 S1: Mitchell's voice a few minutes ago, but he's no longer 681 00:35:55,660 --> 00:35:58,980 S1: with us. We can't call him up. And you walk 682 00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:00,100 S1: through that, right? 683 00:36:00,739 --> 00:36:03,899 S10: Yeah. Well, actually, it was Brian who called me. I 684 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:06,620 S10: was at a movie theater at the time, and, uh, 685 00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:09,980 S10: this is, uh, several years ago now, but, uh, he 686 00:36:09,980 --> 00:36:13,819 S10: said you're not going to believe this. And I said, well, 687 00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:18,540 S10: I'm in a movie, so what is it? And he said, well, 688 00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:22,379 S10: we just lost Steve Mitchell. And I go, what? And 689 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:25,020 S10: he said, yeah, he was involved in a car accident 690 00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:28,860 S10: this morning in Indiana. And then things began to filter 691 00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:32,100 S10: out throughout the morning. And Dave had gone to play 692 00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,980 S10: hockey that morning, and it was a Sunday morning early 693 00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:38,540 S10: before church. And then he started to feel some tightness 694 00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:40,140 S10: in his chest. But he just thought that he was 695 00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:44,460 S10: having muscle tightening, got in his car and went down I-65. 696 00:36:44,820 --> 00:36:48,060 S10: And then his heart gave out on him and he 697 00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:51,740 S10: sort of slid into the the embankment and the embankment 698 00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:54,219 S10: on the side. And the car came to a stop 699 00:36:54,219 --> 00:36:57,340 S10: and but they could not revive him. So it was 700 00:36:57,380 --> 00:37:01,100 S10: it was just an incredibly sad loss for us. And 701 00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:03,460 S10: I remember going to the funeral afterwards and, you know, 702 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:07,380 S10: we were kind of all standing around in disbelief on that. But, uh, yeah, 703 00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:09,980 S10: that is the truly the ups and downs of life. 704 00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:12,100 S10: After our time at Moody, Dave and I would get 705 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,299 S10: together about every three months and just kind of catch 706 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:17,420 S10: up and such. So yeah, that was a lost friend. 707 00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:21,420 S1: Well, I want to thank you both for your work. Um, 708 00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:25,980 S1: what you did and what you continued to do being you. 709 00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:29,700 S1: And I wanted to include both of you in this 710 00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:33,940 S1: tribute because you're part of Moody Radio's 100 years proclaiming 711 00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:38,300 S1: the gospel, being there in the trenches every morning. Brian, darling, 712 00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:39,740 S1: thank you for doing that today. 713 00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:43,740 S13: Thanks for having me. A part of this conversation. I'm honored. 714 00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:48,420 S1: And, uh, you as well, my friend Mark Elf Strand, 715 00:37:48,460 --> 00:37:51,260 S1: even though you took over for us. I'm so glad 716 00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:53,780 S1: for what you and Dave and the crew and Monty 717 00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:57,340 S1: and the others there. What you accomplished in those years. 718 00:37:57,820 --> 00:38:00,300 S10: You know, we shouldn't forget Marty. Yeah. I still maintain 719 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,020 S10: a friendship. And we have lunch now and then, and 720 00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:05,940 S10: he's doing well, so. Oh, by the way, Chris, I 721 00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:08,710 S10: should mention, based on your earlier segment? I wear a 722 00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:11,150 S10: size 12 shoe, in case you were wondering. 723 00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:16,350 S1: Now we know from Mark strand, we're giving a tribute 724 00:38:16,469 --> 00:38:20,669 S1: to Moody Radio 100 years proclaiming the gospel. I have 725 00:38:20,670 --> 00:38:23,870 S1: one more guest. Greg Wheatley continues with me here at 726 00:38:23,870 --> 00:38:25,629 S1: the back fence. If you go to the website, Chris 727 00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:30,110 S1: Fabry live.org. Many of the people that you're hearing here today, 728 00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:34,390 S1: their pictures, their interesting information is in this new book. 729 00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:37,390 S1: This is Moody Radio. It's our featured resource. Go to 730 00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:49,549 S1: Chris Fabry live dot. I made a list of some 731 00:38:49,550 --> 00:38:52,910 S1: of the folks who have been on Moody Radio through 732 00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:57,150 S1: the years, and some in the local area and some nationally. 733 00:38:57,190 --> 00:39:00,910 S1: Dawn and Steve in Nashville, Dee and Scott in Spokane. 734 00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:05,550 S1: Eric and Bridget in Florida. Kelly and Steve in Indianapolis. 735 00:39:05,830 --> 00:39:09,430 S1: Harry and Shawna and Grand Rapids. Tom and Toby. Chattanooga. 736 00:39:09,469 --> 00:39:13,069 S1: Seth and Deb. Quad cities. And it's like, I don't 737 00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:15,910 S1: I can't have everybody on. But I wanted to just 738 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:20,190 S1: say the names today because you are a part of 739 00:39:20,190 --> 00:39:24,190 S1: this past hundred years and what has been done. God 740 00:39:24,190 --> 00:39:27,950 S1: has worked through what you have done. Uh, all, all 741 00:39:27,989 --> 00:39:32,150 S1: of us together. And there's one other team, Kurt and Kate, 742 00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:35,670 S1: in Florida. I got Kurt Goff with me. He's was 743 00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:39,189 S1: in TV news for more than a decade than came 744 00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:42,069 S1: to Chicago, took up the program where Mike Kellogg left off, 745 00:39:42,070 --> 00:39:45,990 S1: then went down with Kate to host Kurt and Kate Mornings, 746 00:39:45,989 --> 00:39:49,310 S1: the Kurt and Kate Cavalcade, Kurt Goff. How you doing today? 747 00:39:50,350 --> 00:39:53,029 S14: Kurt and Kate Cavalcade. That would have been a better 748 00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:55,310 S14: name for the show than Kurt and Kate mornings I 749 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:55,910 S14: like it. 750 00:39:55,950 --> 00:39:58,149 S1: It just came to me is this just keep the 751 00:39:58,150 --> 00:40:01,630 S1: alliteration going. Okay, I want to read from page 151 752 00:40:01,630 --> 00:40:04,110 S1: of this is Moody Radio folks. You got to get this. 753 00:40:04,270 --> 00:40:07,550 S1: It's a quote from Bob Murfin, who for many, you know, 754 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:10,469 S1: in Chicago, he was just a staple there. He said, 755 00:40:10,469 --> 00:40:12,469 S1: I learned a long time ago that people are what 756 00:40:12,469 --> 00:40:17,750 S1: are important. People are what are important in radio. It's people, 757 00:40:17,950 --> 00:40:23,030 S1: not programs, not fancy little dilly dilly dally things, but 758 00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:27,270 S1: it's people. And you communicate with people. People know that 759 00:40:27,310 --> 00:40:29,870 S1: you either love or you don't love them, or you 760 00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:33,470 S1: care or you don't care. Curt, do you agree with that? 761 00:40:34,350 --> 00:40:37,750 S14: Boy, I agree with that 100%. And, you know, the 762 00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:42,109 S14: superpower of radio, even in a digital age, you know, 763 00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:46,150 S14: and podcasting, that's great. Uh, you know, all the digital stuff, 764 00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:49,150 S14: the video, the YouTube and all of that is, is great. 765 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:53,870 S14: But something that radio has always done so well is 766 00:40:53,870 --> 00:40:57,070 S14: to connect one on one with people, and you don't 767 00:40:57,070 --> 00:41:01,910 S14: have that interruption or the distraction of video or what 768 00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:05,549 S14: have you, but it, you know, it just kind of 769 00:41:05,590 --> 00:41:09,950 S14: focuses on the heart. It's, it's like everything falls away 770 00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:12,989 S14: and there's an intimacy about this. And Chris, I think 771 00:41:12,989 --> 00:41:15,630 S14: you've talked about this on your program before you know it, 772 00:41:15,630 --> 00:41:18,989 S14: you live it. There's an intimacy about being one on 773 00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:22,830 S14: one with people, one person at a time, even though 774 00:41:22,830 --> 00:41:25,509 S14: there are many people listening that none of the other 775 00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:28,109 S14: platforms can reproduce. You can tell I'm a big fan 776 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:29,270 S14: of radio, can't you? 777 00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:33,350 S1: Sure can. Okay, so what is your morning moment that 778 00:41:33,350 --> 00:41:34,310 S1: comes to mind? 779 00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:38,390 S14: Well, it is so hard. That is a difficult question, 780 00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:41,469 S14: as others have been mentioning on the show today, uh, 781 00:41:41,469 --> 00:41:44,629 S14: to choose one moment because really it's a collection of, 782 00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:47,350 S14: of moments. But I think that you, you hit on 783 00:41:47,350 --> 00:41:51,990 S14: something that is, is very powerful and that is community. 784 00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:56,590 S14: And it's a matter of connecting with, uh, your listeners. 785 00:41:56,590 --> 00:41:58,590 S14: And I know with Kurt and Kate mornings, even overnight, 786 00:41:58,590 --> 00:42:01,750 S14: Kurt Goff live when I was in Chicago, uh, God 787 00:42:01,790 --> 00:42:05,790 S14: built Build communities there. And it was not just a 788 00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:08,790 S14: matter of, uh, a show. You know, we call it 789 00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:10,950 S14: a show or what have you, but it's not that 790 00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:14,589 S14: it's really an ongoing conversation, uh, day by day, but 791 00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:18,790 S14: it's walking with people through the challenges of life. And 792 00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:22,430 S14: part of that is when you just bear down and you, 793 00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:26,830 S14: you walk with others and you pray for them. For instance, 794 00:42:27,390 --> 00:42:29,790 S14: one of the things that we love to do was 795 00:42:30,270 --> 00:42:33,430 S14: have somebody just call in and, you know, follow the 796 00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:36,630 S14: lead of the Holy Spirit. I mean, it's totally, totally 797 00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:39,390 S14: his leading. And someone would share something. And then, as 798 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:42,270 S14: you know, then God would just kind of put his 799 00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:44,430 S14: finger on that, put it on the hearts of other people. 800 00:42:44,430 --> 00:42:46,870 S14: We'd have a call to action. Maybe somebody was in 801 00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:50,790 S14: a crisis, really needed some believers to surround them and 802 00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:53,589 S14: pray for them. And that's what being the body of 803 00:42:53,590 --> 00:42:55,910 S14: Christ is all about. And then the other part of 804 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:59,950 S14: it is laughing together. It's okay to laugh. And sometimes 805 00:42:59,950 --> 00:43:03,430 S14: that's the greatest gift you can give someone is a laugh. 806 00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:05,270 S14: And I always said, you can laugh at me or 807 00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:07,270 S14: laugh with me. As long as you're laughing, that's a 808 00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:07,950 S14: pretty good thing. 809 00:43:09,150 --> 00:43:12,950 S1: Before the program, Greg, I told Greg, uh, my goal 810 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:17,150 S1: every morning, 2.5 hours or however long it was, um, 811 00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:19,589 S1: was to make him laugh. I just wanted on the 812 00:43:19,590 --> 00:43:21,710 S1: air to make him laugh. If I could do that, 813 00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:24,549 S1: I'd been a success that morning. Greg. Did you did 814 00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:25,350 S1: you ever laugh? 815 00:43:25,950 --> 00:43:29,830 S2: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And and maybe maybe at him 816 00:43:29,830 --> 00:43:31,989 S2: and maybe with him sometimes, you know, a little bit 817 00:43:31,989 --> 00:43:33,149 S2: of both. Yeah. Oh yeah. 818 00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:37,629 S1: But there's that vulnerability. There's authenticity and the vulnerability. And 819 00:43:37,630 --> 00:43:42,270 S1: there's a fine line that you walk there, Kurt, but 820 00:43:42,310 --> 00:43:46,270 S1: identifying with the listeners, but then inviting them in. And 821 00:43:46,270 --> 00:43:50,870 S1: that takes you a little level deeper into their heart, right? 822 00:43:51,469 --> 00:43:54,510 S14: Oh boy. You described it so well. You know, when, 823 00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:58,589 S14: when we are real people, which we are, and we 824 00:43:58,590 --> 00:44:01,480 S14: have real Personalities when you laugh and when you talk 825 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,440 S14: about real life that just, uh, you build bridges. I 826 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,240 S14: call those bridge building segments. Uh, and basically you're building 827 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,520 S14: a bridge to somebody else's heart. And as you do that, 828 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,439 S14: then you get to know them. It's like building any 829 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,880 S14: other friendship. And then suddenly, you know, we talk about 830 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,000 S14: the most important things, the biblical things, the spiritual things. 831 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,680 S14: As believers, it's very natural because it's a part of who, 832 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,120 S14: who we really are. But when you laugh, it's amazing 833 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,560 S14: how disarming that can be. And we know a cheerful 834 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,880 S14: heart is good, like medicine. And, uh, you know, a 835 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,759 S14: cheerful heart is a continual feast. It says in Proverbs. 836 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,759 S14: So I like to capitalize on that, but it's the 837 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,120 S14: range of emotions, really. And again, I get back to 838 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,720 S14: the medium of radio. There's nothing like live radio either. 839 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,040 S14: It's like God working in real time. You see his 840 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,359 S14: hand move and everybody sees it. Who's listening at that 841 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,959 S14: particular moment. And it's faith building. And, uh, you know, God, 842 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,600 S14: you have the Holy Spirit can apply whatever's happening on 843 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,200 S14: the radio to many different people in many different situations. 844 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,120 S1: Barbara wrote this in 2002. My sister's newborn had open 845 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,160 S1: heart surgery. My father started chemo. A week later, my 846 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,840 S1: mom became ill with a 19 month ordeal. Six surgeries. 847 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,000 S1: So she goes on to say I was in utter physical, emotional, 848 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,000 S1: and spiritual exhaustion. One morning I was having trouble waking 849 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,359 S1: up and getting started. Moody Radio Cleveland's Marc Zimmermann was 850 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,560 S1: a mainstay in my mornings for years after Bob Devine 851 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,680 S1: and that lowest of mornings. He was addressing trials and 852 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,520 S1: tribulations and said something to the effect that as believers, 853 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:46,240 S1: we bear one another's burdens and we do not struggle alone. 854 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,200 S1: We stand on the prayers of those who care for us. 855 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,200 S1: It was exactly what I needed to hear, and I'm 856 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,920 S1: so glad that Marc was there in 2002. I'm so 857 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,840 S1: glad that, Kurt, that you have been there for many 858 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,560 S1: people in that same situation, you had no idea what 859 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,319 S1: was going on in their heart, but you were able 860 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,280 S1: to give them the truth that God was there, was 861 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,560 S1: walking through that with them was a shepherd of their heart. 862 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,480 S1: And it's still going on today on Moody Radio mornings, 863 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,120 S1: Carl and Allie and Diana and Young Thunder. And I 864 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,719 S1: hope you'll listen. But I wanted to pay tribute to 865 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:29,080 S1: those whose shoulders we all stand on. Thank you Kurt. Greg. 866 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,360 S1: Thank you. And if you go to website, the website 867 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,480 S1: Chris Fabry live.org, I would love to send you a 868 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,200 S1: copy of this book. This is Moody Radio 100 years 869 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,600 S1: proclaiming the gospel. Go to Chris Fabry live.org. Our program 870 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,320 S1: is a production of Moody Radio, a Ministry of Moody 871 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,560 S1: Bible Institute. Thanks for listening.