1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,640 S1: I can't wait. I am so excited. This is gonna 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,800 S1: be fun. I've been holding back for months, ever since 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,560 S1: I heard that there was a book coming out about 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,160 S1: Moody radio, and I'm holding it in my hands today. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,440 S1: And all this month, we are going to celebrate the 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,480 S1: 100th anniversary of the beginning of Moody Radio. And I 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,560 S1: have two guests today who are going to give us 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,840 S1: a behind the scenes look at putting this monumental project together, 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,640 S1: what they included and what they were unable to include, 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:40,040 S1: the voices, the melodies, and the uncompromising message of the 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,120 S1: gospel that is straight ahead. On this July 1st edition 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,320 S1: of Chris Fabry Live, the program From the Heart to 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,600 S1: the heart for the heart, let me thank our team 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,959 S1: behind the scenes. Ryan McConaughey's doing all things technical. Trisha's 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,240 S1: our producer, Lisa's helping out, but our program is recorded today. 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,480 S1: But I want to invite you to either call or 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,640 S1: go to the website and support us in July because 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,080 S1: this is a once in a hundred years resource. The 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,720 S1: book is titled This is Moody Radio 100 Years Proclaiming 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,080 S1: the Gospel. It's probably the most expensive book we've given 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,640 S1: on this program. Expensive because of all the pictures included. 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,160 S1: You know, when you do a book like this and 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,720 S1: you put pictures in there, the the cost goes up 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,360 S1: of production and you're going to see Sailor Sam and 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,480 S1: Ranger Bill and Bob Devine and Bob Murfin and A.W. 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,280 S1: Tozer and Wendell Lovelace. You're going to hear more about 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,240 S1: those names if you don't know who they are. But 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,880 S1: if you do know who they are, this will thrill 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,240 S1: you as you go through the history and learn some 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,600 S1: of the things you probably didn't know about Aunt Teresa 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,640 S1: and Don Cole and so many others. Give a gift 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,760 S1: of any size. Be as generous as you can in 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:59,320 S1: this 100th year. Call 86695538669532279. Or just go to Chris fabriclive.org. 34 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,800 S1: Chris Fabriclive dot ORG. Our resident historian at Moody Radio 35 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,760 S1: is and has been. Phil Shepherd, who served as National 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,480 S1: Operations manager for many years before he retired in 2020. Phil, 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,040 S1: welcome back. How are you doing today? 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,200 S2: Chris, thank you so much for having me on today. And, 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,480 S2: and my, my friend here, Kevin. 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,800 S1: Kevin is a Chicago based writer and editor, longtime church musician. 41 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,480 S1: He researches and writes about gospel music and early recording 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,440 S1: and radio. So this project, Kevin, my guess is lit 43 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,880 S1: up your prefrontal cortex when you heard about it. Oh. 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,840 S2: Absolutely. 45 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,160 S3: In fact, when Phil and I first conceived this picture, 46 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,880 S3: Phil and I in the archives, going through these forgotten 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,280 S3: closets and rooms that are just full of moody radio 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,840 S3: art facts, and we're looking at each other and saying, 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,639 S3: you know what? Someday somebody's got to write a book 50 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,799 S3: about this. And we we've dreamed about this book for 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,079 S3: a long time, and I'm so happy that it's out now. 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,560 S1: And this is so close to me because I've lived 53 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,480 S1: at least part of this, uh, the book. And Phil, 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:14,079 S1: you have two because you have curated and, and kept these, uh, 55 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,720 S1: these audio bits, some of which we're going to hear today. 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,760 S1: You've kept them because this is important, isn't it? 57 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,840 S2: Well, it is because it represents God at work in 58 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,280 S2: the lives of people, the people on this side of 59 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,360 S2: the microphone and the countless thousands on the other side. 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,480 S1: All right, here's what it sounded like. Moody radio went 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,880 S1: on in 1926. Here's what the first station ID sounded like. 62 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,880 S4: Good afternoon, radio friends. This is the Moody Bible Institute 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,720 S4: of Chicago, the West Point of Christian Service radio station WMBI. 64 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,480 S4: The station, which is dedicated wholly to the service of 65 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:59,950 S4: our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ w MB transmits by 66 00:03:59,950 --> 00:04:02,390 S4: authority of the Federal Radio Commission on a frequency of 67 00:04:02,390 --> 00:04:08,750 S4: 180 Kilocycles and the program which is being brought to 68 00:04:08,750 --> 00:04:13,550 S4: you during this hour, is broadcast from the auditorium of 69 00:04:13,550 --> 00:04:19,590 S4: the Institute and is brought to you by your announcer, H. 70 00:04:19,630 --> 00:04:27,070 S4: A Hermanson, assisted by Mrs. B a Lovelady. As we 71 00:04:27,070 --> 00:04:33,950 S4: did last week, we'll have to beg off honoring all 72 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:38,150 S4: the requests that have come in for this period, because 73 00:04:38,190 --> 00:04:42,390 S4: last week was letter week at WMBI. Hundreds and hundreds 74 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:46,310 S4: of letters came in and many of them with requests 75 00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:51,870 S4: for special numbers for special programs. And I have here 76 00:04:51,870 --> 00:04:55,190 S4: in my hands a handful of requests for this period, 77 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:59,230 S4: which it will be impossible for us to honor. We 78 00:04:59,230 --> 00:05:03,110 S4: trust that you will forgive us if we do not 79 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:04,470 S4: try to include them. 80 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:10,670 S1: I love that because it's live. Phil. All of that's live, right? 81 00:05:11,070 --> 00:05:13,870 S2: That was live. And in those days, the only recording 82 00:05:13,870 --> 00:05:17,230 S2: would be a record lathe cutting, cutting that in there 83 00:05:17,230 --> 00:05:20,349 S2: was there was no tape anything like we have today. Yeah. 84 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:23,549 S1: What one of the things I notice about that is 85 00:05:24,029 --> 00:05:28,150 S1: being assisted by Mrs. B.A. Lovelady. And that was one 86 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:29,550 S1: of the things I was going to bring out, the 87 00:05:29,550 --> 00:05:32,510 S1: importance of women in the history of Moody Radio. Can 88 00:05:32,510 --> 00:05:34,790 S1: you talk? Do you have any idea who she was? 89 00:05:35,350 --> 00:05:38,990 S2: Uh, not her in particular. She was probably an assistant 90 00:05:38,990 --> 00:05:42,589 S2: in the studio. Uh, h a hermanson. I don't think 91 00:05:42,589 --> 00:05:44,990 S2: anybody had first names in those days. Well, you know, 92 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:50,070 S2: Wendell a w p Loveless, uh, Howard Hermanson was his name, 93 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:55,830 S2: and he, along with William Bill King and Wendell Lovelace. 94 00:05:55,870 --> 00:06:00,710 S2: Those were the announcers trio and, uh, started our first 95 00:06:00,710 --> 00:06:05,589 S2: music enterprise on WMBI in 1928. But, uh, yeah, these, uh, 96 00:06:05,630 --> 00:06:09,150 S2: and we, we have audio of, of Herm as his 97 00:06:09,150 --> 00:06:12,190 S2: nickname was. At least that's what Wendell Lovelace called him 98 00:06:12,310 --> 00:06:16,990 S2: from 1976, looking back 50 years at that time. And, uh, 99 00:06:16,990 --> 00:06:21,150 S2: it's just amazing. And everybody to a t says it 100 00:06:21,150 --> 00:06:24,510 S2: was pioneering. We didn't know what we were doing, but 101 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:26,029 S2: we did the best we could. 102 00:06:26,270 --> 00:06:29,550 S1: And they had no idea then. I mean, we can 103 00:06:29,550 --> 00:06:32,510 S1: look back and we say, okay, radio and radio drama 104 00:06:32,510 --> 00:06:35,670 S1: and everything that happened, and then television and then the 105 00:06:35,670 --> 00:06:39,990 S1: explosion today of going into satellite and then the internet. 106 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:42,510 S1: But at that point, they had no idea what it 107 00:06:42,510 --> 00:06:42,910 S1: would be. 108 00:06:43,070 --> 00:06:46,510 S2: Uh, it was, it was, as Wendell Lovelace said, and 109 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:51,750 S2: Teresa and Teresa said it was trial and error. Trial 110 00:06:51,750 --> 00:06:52,390 S2: and error. 111 00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:55,750 S1: Aren't you glad for the vision, Kevin? Of people like 112 00:06:55,750 --> 00:06:58,510 S1: that who would jump into something new like that? 113 00:06:58,550 --> 00:07:01,349 S3: They knew for some reason they just knew that radio 114 00:07:01,350 --> 00:07:03,590 S3: was going to be hot. And so they jumped on 115 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:06,070 S3: the trend as soon as they could. You know, if 116 00:07:06,070 --> 00:07:09,029 S3: you were listening to that broadcast in 1926, you were 117 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:12,390 S3: probably listening to a radio that you built yourself, or 118 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:16,590 S3: maybe your neighbor built one, and everyone was gathered around 119 00:07:16,590 --> 00:07:20,510 S3: the one radio in the neighborhood just to hear the broadcast. 120 00:07:20,510 --> 00:07:24,270 S3: And then over time, they rightly predicted that radio was 121 00:07:24,270 --> 00:07:27,230 S3: going to take off. And Moody Radio itself was on 122 00:07:27,230 --> 00:07:29,670 S3: the right side of the growth curve. And they they 123 00:07:29,710 --> 00:07:31,230 S3: jumped in at the right moment. 124 00:07:31,230 --> 00:07:33,790 S1: But there was pushback. You know, the devil is the 125 00:07:33,790 --> 00:07:35,510 S1: prince of the power of the air, and we shouldn't 126 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:38,390 S1: do this. There were there were some people who were saying, no, 127 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:39,230 S1: don't do this. 128 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:43,150 S2: And that was the president of Moody Bible Institute saying that. 129 00:07:43,950 --> 00:07:46,350 S2: But he came around. He came around. 130 00:07:46,630 --> 00:07:48,270 S1: Who was that? James and James. 131 00:07:48,310 --> 00:07:50,390 S2: James Gray. Yes, yes. 132 00:07:50,430 --> 00:07:54,830 S1: Okay. So this is 27 years. Moody dies in 1899. 133 00:07:55,150 --> 00:07:59,670 S1: In 1926. Of course, they're ramping up for this. They 134 00:07:59,670 --> 00:08:02,830 S1: have to prepare for this a long time. But when W.M. 135 00:08:02,870 --> 00:08:05,910 S1: B Moody Bible Institute, when that went on the air, 136 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:09,550 S1: they didn't have 24 hour radio. Right? 137 00:08:09,590 --> 00:08:12,950 S2: Mhm. Uh, no, you only had several hours a day, 138 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:15,230 S2: and you had to share the frequency with other radio 139 00:08:15,230 --> 00:08:18,910 S2: stations as well. WMBI had to share their frequencies with 140 00:08:18,910 --> 00:08:25,950 S2: the Zenith Radio Corporation, WJAZJW jazz. And they shared with them, 141 00:08:25,950 --> 00:08:29,550 S2: and they had different iterations of sharing throughout the years. 142 00:08:29,550 --> 00:08:35,670 S2: It wasn't until 1941, uh, that would be, what, 15 143 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:39,750 S2: years of broadcasting piecemeal, uh, before they got a full 144 00:08:39,790 --> 00:08:43,150 S2: time license in 1941. It was a day of victory. 145 00:08:43,470 --> 00:08:44,190 S1: We're going to go. 146 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:44,790 S2: Through. 147 00:08:44,830 --> 00:08:48,710 S1: The the years on this program here on July 1st. 148 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:52,069 S1: And I want you to hear from Kevin and Phil 149 00:08:52,110 --> 00:08:56,150 S1: who have put together this is Moody Radio. It is 150 00:08:56,150 --> 00:08:59,510 S1: a pictorial of. You go through the years. You see 151 00:08:59,510 --> 00:09:01,990 S1: all of these different things. I want to send you 152 00:09:01,990 --> 00:09:05,350 S1: a copy of that. If you go to kris.org, scroll down, 153 00:09:05,350 --> 00:09:07,070 S1: you'll see how you can give a gift of any 154 00:09:07,070 --> 00:09:09,950 S1: size and receive this. Be as generous as you can. 155 00:09:10,270 --> 00:09:12,630 S1: But we are so excited about this. And we're going 156 00:09:12,670 --> 00:09:16,270 S1: to celebrate 100 years all this month. And we're going 157 00:09:16,309 --> 00:09:18,470 S1: to do that on Chris Fabry live by giving you 158 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:22,709 S1: This is Moody radio 100 years proclaiming the gospel. Go 159 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:32,870 S1: to Chris fabry.org, or you can call 8669538669532279. You will 160 00:09:32,870 --> 00:09:35,829 S1: hear Wendell Lovelace straight ahead on Moody Radio. 161 00:09:36,190 --> 00:09:43,910 S5: No, never. No. Never. Ever. For. 162 00:09:56,700 --> 00:09:58,780 S1: Thanks for joining us today for Chris Fabry Live. Our 163 00:09:58,780 --> 00:10:03,540 S1: programs recorded. We are celebrating all this month, 100 years 164 00:10:03,540 --> 00:10:06,740 S1: of Moody Radio and a book has been put together 165 00:10:06,740 --> 00:10:10,580 S1: by my friend Phil Shapard and his friend Kevin Mungan, 166 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:12,740 S1: who's now my friend as well. So I've got two 167 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:16,780 S1: friends with us. This is Moody Radio 100 years proclaiming 168 00:10:16,780 --> 00:10:20,820 S1: the gospel. It actually releases next week, but get in early. 169 00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:22,740 S1: You can give a gift of any size. Will send 170 00:10:22,740 --> 00:10:27,580 S1: you a copy of this. Find out more@chris.org. You've already 171 00:10:27,580 --> 00:10:31,460 S1: used his name, Wendell Loveless. He was the point of 172 00:10:31,460 --> 00:10:35,860 S1: the Spear of Moody Radio, wasn't he, Phil? 173 00:10:36,300 --> 00:10:41,420 S2: Well, on Uncommonly Knowledge is that he started it. Well, 174 00:10:41,420 --> 00:10:43,940 S2: he didn't start it. He actually joined the staff a 175 00:10:43,940 --> 00:10:47,660 S2: couple of months later. Uh, he came to the Institute, 176 00:10:47,660 --> 00:10:51,460 S2: and his title was a. He was a. I don't 177 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:53,460 S2: know how you call him. He was a clerk in 178 00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:58,500 S2: the extension department. But Wendell Lovelace had talent. He was 179 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:03,900 S2: a World War One marine officer, but he was also 180 00:11:03,940 --> 00:11:09,860 S2: a Chautauqua trooper and many folks today. What is a 181 00:11:09,900 --> 00:11:14,340 S2: Chautauqua trooper? It was. It was a. If you can 182 00:11:14,380 --> 00:11:17,780 S2: think of like vaudeville, right. But when you think of vaudeville, 183 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:23,579 S2: you think of bawdy. Okay, so the troopers were groups 184 00:11:23,580 --> 00:11:27,780 S2: of people that would travel around Itinerants and they would sing, 185 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:31,699 S2: they would have drama, they would have classical music. And 186 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:34,420 S2: he was one of those. And so he came with 187 00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:39,340 S2: the expertise of, of creativity and delivery. And he brought 188 00:11:39,340 --> 00:11:42,020 S2: a lot to the table when he started in October 189 00:11:42,020 --> 00:11:43,500 S2: of 1926. 190 00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:46,980 S1: Okay, so think of this. So he's born in 1892. 191 00:11:47,020 --> 00:11:51,579 S1: He's seven years old. When D.L. Moody dies, he's 21 192 00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:55,860 S1: or 2. When World War One starts, and then America 193 00:11:55,860 --> 00:11:57,940 S1: gets in a little bit later than that. So he's 194 00:11:57,940 --> 00:12:02,339 S1: in his mid 20s when he's doing that. By 1926 195 00:12:02,380 --> 00:12:07,220 S1: then he is 34 for me. 30. 34. Okay. So 196 00:12:07,220 --> 00:12:11,820 S1: he's so he's in his mid 30s and he sat 197 00:12:11,820 --> 00:12:16,100 S1: down with Myron Canedy. So why is Myron Kennedy, why 198 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:17,220 S1: is that name important? 199 00:12:17,260 --> 00:12:22,660 S2: Yeah, Myron came in from from Rochester, Minnesota. Uh, and 200 00:12:22,780 --> 00:12:25,500 S2: it's interesting how he came in. And I'm trying to 201 00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:28,300 S2: think of the fellow who offered a job. If he 202 00:12:28,300 --> 00:12:31,900 S2: would come down there. He came in and he was 203 00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:36,300 S2: the announcer on Moody Radio's first dramatic series. You call 204 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:39,460 S2: it like a soap opera, a serial. And he was 205 00:12:39,460 --> 00:12:42,100 S2: the announcer on number nine Elm Street. 206 00:12:42,140 --> 00:12:42,699 S1: Elm Street. 207 00:12:42,740 --> 00:12:47,780 S2: Yeah. Uh, but then, uh, he became a assistance, basically 208 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:52,819 S2: the assistant program director underneath, uh, Wendell Lovelace. And then 209 00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:59,300 S2: Wendell Lovelace left in 194647. Uh, Robert Parsons became the director, 210 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:03,100 S2: and Myron continued on as his assistant. 211 00:13:03,100 --> 00:13:06,300 S1: And Myron was Ranger Bill. 212 00:13:06,340 --> 00:13:10,140 S2: Right. When I tell you what, there was a fellow 213 00:13:10,140 --> 00:13:13,300 S2: by the name of Al Sanders. Yes, Al Sanders and 214 00:13:13,300 --> 00:13:17,180 S2: Margaret came to Moody in 1949. They were a mission 215 00:13:17,179 --> 00:13:19,860 S2: radio field. They were heading in that direction, but they 216 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:22,260 S2: thought they needed to get some Bible underneath their belt. 217 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:27,020 S2: They came to Moody. They spent four years there. Al became, uh, 218 00:13:27,020 --> 00:13:31,500 S2: a creative engine in the KiB club and became Uncle Al, 219 00:13:31,540 --> 00:13:35,820 S2: and he had missionary stories and moody publishers printed storybooks 220 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:40,179 S2: with Uncle Al. But Uncle Al, he had the idea 221 00:13:40,179 --> 00:13:44,100 S2: of a story where it's a Christian crime fighter. And 222 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:50,020 S2: his name was Captain James destiny. And, uh, and so, uh, 223 00:13:50,020 --> 00:13:53,020 S2: so that program went on the air early in 1950, 224 00:13:53,059 --> 00:13:55,140 S2: but listeners did not like it. 225 00:13:55,540 --> 00:13:55,939 S1: Really. 226 00:13:55,980 --> 00:13:59,939 S2: Christian know as a Christian has no business, uh, you 227 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:03,460 S2: have no business playing crime stories on Christian radio. And 228 00:14:03,460 --> 00:14:08,260 S2: so they needed something desperately to replace that. And, uh, 229 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:12,620 S2: the idea came, uh, to start a story about a 230 00:14:12,620 --> 00:14:17,339 S2: ranger who was strong and high ethics and, and all 231 00:14:17,340 --> 00:14:19,540 S2: of the different things that you would run into the 232 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:23,060 S2: challenges and the forest and the animals and the, the 233 00:14:24,180 --> 00:14:27,940 S2: characters that would come in. And Myron Kennedy was cast 234 00:14:27,940 --> 00:14:34,700 S2: as Ranger Bill Jefferson, but he wasn't just doing character bits, uh, Myron, uh, 235 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:39,900 S2: a classical education. And, and we have programs. Uh, he 236 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:43,530 S2: did a nightly program called reverie, and he would read 237 00:14:43,530 --> 00:14:49,250 S2: scripture and poetry. He had the daily open the Bible program, 238 00:14:49,250 --> 00:14:52,930 S2: where he would read nonstop out of the King James Version, 239 00:14:53,450 --> 00:14:57,210 S2: the Bible, the open Bible that was aired every afternoon. Uh, 240 00:14:57,210 --> 00:14:58,010 S2: a number of things. 241 00:14:58,010 --> 00:15:01,810 S1: So and it was live and, and as from what 242 00:15:01,810 --> 00:15:07,370 S1: I've heard, Myron didn't make mistakes. He didn't have pickups. 243 00:15:07,370 --> 00:15:09,290 S2: He was one one take Charlie. 244 00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:12,610 S1: Yeah. Like I would, you know, I'd do something like that. 245 00:15:12,610 --> 00:15:15,890 S1: And you had to pay somebody overtime to edit. Okay. 246 00:15:15,930 --> 00:15:19,290 S1: So I mentioned Myron Kennedy from a little later on, 247 00:15:19,690 --> 00:15:24,450 S1: who sat down with Wendell Lovelace at the 50th anniversary 248 00:15:24,450 --> 00:15:27,610 S1: of Moody Radio. So now here we are at 100. 249 00:15:27,610 --> 00:15:30,930 S1: And this is Myron asking Wendell Lovelace a question. 250 00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:34,330 S6: Can you think of some humorous things that happened during 251 00:15:34,330 --> 00:15:38,050 S6: the time of plenty? Plenty. Share with us a couple, 252 00:15:38,050 --> 00:15:38,490 S6: will you? 253 00:15:39,050 --> 00:15:42,730 S7: This condenser mic up here. Reminds me of one time 254 00:15:42,730 --> 00:15:46,010 S7: in the studio. This was the second type of mic 255 00:15:46,010 --> 00:15:48,210 S7: we had. We had first this that you had to 256 00:15:48,210 --> 00:15:51,610 S7: slap its face in order to distribute the carbon granules. 257 00:15:52,170 --> 00:15:55,090 S7: And then we had this, which was a great improvement. 258 00:15:55,370 --> 00:15:58,530 S7: And we'd always keep it at the piano. And one 259 00:15:58,530 --> 00:16:01,290 S7: day when the announcer's trio was singing on the air, 260 00:16:02,330 --> 00:16:05,450 S7: Herm Howard Hermansen was at the piano. Bill King and 261 00:16:05,450 --> 00:16:08,530 S7: I were standing in front of this. And Bill, who 262 00:16:08,530 --> 00:16:12,610 S7: was not the most graceful person in the world, stumbled 263 00:16:12,610 --> 00:16:17,130 S7: against it and knocked it over onto Hermansen, which got 264 00:16:17,130 --> 00:16:19,850 S7: us all laughing so hard that we had to cut 265 00:16:19,850 --> 00:16:26,250 S7: the air. And then Hermansen. Hermansen was a great inventor. 266 00:16:26,490 --> 00:16:29,970 S7: He had a very practical turn of mind, and we 267 00:16:29,970 --> 00:16:32,850 S7: were in the second studio that we had in the 268 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:39,410 S7: men's building, the 152 building Memories, memories. And we had 269 00:16:39,410 --> 00:16:46,010 S7: one window in that which opened onto a little aperture 270 00:16:46,010 --> 00:16:50,130 S7: between the walls. And that was our our only source 271 00:16:50,130 --> 00:16:53,690 S7: of fresh air, because we didn't have air conditioning in 272 00:16:53,690 --> 00:16:56,730 S7: those days, the days of the Civil War, we didn't 273 00:16:56,730 --> 00:17:01,130 S7: have we didn't have air conditioning. But Herm conceived the 274 00:17:01,130 --> 00:17:06,050 S7: idea of putting dry ice in a dish pan and 275 00:17:06,050 --> 00:17:09,250 S7: putting an electric fan back of it right in the window, 276 00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:13,530 S7: and blowing the fumes from the dry ice into the studio. Well, 277 00:17:13,530 --> 00:17:16,970 S7: you know, the dry ice fumes are very toxic, and 278 00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:20,250 S7: we all couldn't understand why we began to get so sleepy. 279 00:17:22,850 --> 00:17:27,050 S7: I remind him of that every time I write to him. Oh, 280 00:17:27,050 --> 00:17:29,810 S7: and there's so many times, so many other things. 281 00:17:30,290 --> 00:17:33,890 S6: Well, I know we could go on here bringing many experiences, but, 282 00:17:34,369 --> 00:17:38,210 S6: you know, to just to remind ourselves of a well-known phrase. 283 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:40,930 S6: I'm sorry, but our time is up and we're going 284 00:17:40,970 --> 00:17:43,530 S6: to have to terminate our interview. But we do. Thank 285 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:44,810 S6: you so much, Mr. Lovelace. 286 00:17:44,890 --> 00:17:47,250 S7: Well, thank you, Martin, and thank you, Walt, for the 287 00:17:47,250 --> 00:17:51,850 S7: opportunity to have this brief interview. And the Lord bless you. 288 00:17:51,890 --> 00:17:52,689 S7: Keep looking up. 289 00:17:53,130 --> 00:17:53,810 S6: Amen. 290 00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:59,010 S1: Right there. You can hear the the voice. And when 291 00:17:59,010 --> 00:18:02,890 S1: he said the 152 building, it's like even people at 292 00:18:02,890 --> 00:18:07,290 S1: Moody Bible Institute, they don't unless they've looked at the 293 00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:10,810 S1: the old pictures that you have in here. What that 294 00:18:10,810 --> 00:18:14,450 S1: means the 152 building that goes way back, doesn't it? 295 00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:20,050 S2: Yeah. Actually, the very first building built in the 1890s 296 00:18:20,050 --> 00:18:24,169 S2: was the 153 building. And the the number associates with 297 00:18:24,170 --> 00:18:30,369 S2: the Street Institute place. And across from 153 was 152. 298 00:18:30,650 --> 00:18:34,970 S2: And the building right next to the women's dormitory, which 299 00:18:34,970 --> 00:18:39,330 S2: is still the women's dormitory today, and the studio was 300 00:18:39,330 --> 00:18:42,170 S2: in the building behind it, and the transmitter was up 301 00:18:42,210 --> 00:18:44,649 S2: on the rooftop in a little building on top of 302 00:18:44,650 --> 00:18:46,970 S2: the women's dorm. And that room is still there. 303 00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:50,970 S1: Kevin, why is it important for us to remember this? 304 00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:54,330 S1: The trivia, the humor, you know, not what kind of 305 00:18:54,330 --> 00:18:58,610 S1: microphones there were and and the people. Why is it 306 00:18:58,609 --> 00:18:59,730 S1: important to remember. 307 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:04,530 S3: Just hearing Wendell Lovelace's voice takes us back to an 308 00:19:04,530 --> 00:19:08,290 S3: era where instantly you can tell the guy was wildly creative. 309 00:19:08,530 --> 00:19:11,129 S3: He's the kind of guy who woke up every morning 310 00:19:11,130 --> 00:19:14,290 S3: with ten ideas and. And at least one of them 311 00:19:14,290 --> 00:19:18,050 S3: was good. And he was the kind of guy who 312 00:19:18,050 --> 00:19:21,930 S3: was an entrepreneur when it came to programming. Christian radio 313 00:19:21,930 --> 00:19:25,170 S3: didn't exist back then as we know it. We we 314 00:19:25,210 --> 00:19:29,530 S3: can see the genre itself being invented before our eyes 315 00:19:29,570 --> 00:19:33,090 S3: just by watching what Wendell Lovelace was doing. He would 316 00:19:33,090 --> 00:19:37,450 S3: try all these wildly creative programs. If they didn't work 317 00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:41,810 S3: the next week, he'd try something else and refined everyone's 318 00:19:41,810 --> 00:19:47,010 S3: ideas and expectations about what Christian radio could be. And 319 00:19:47,570 --> 00:19:50,410 S3: if you were going to ask, what was Moody's big 320 00:19:50,530 --> 00:19:54,090 S3: contribution back in that era, you wouldn't say that Moody 321 00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:57,810 S3: Radio was the first Christian radio station, but you would 322 00:19:57,810 --> 00:20:00,690 S3: say that it was the most influential. And much of 323 00:20:00,690 --> 00:20:05,410 S3: what we know about Christian radio today was invented right 324 00:20:05,410 --> 00:20:07,770 S3: here at the corner of Chicago and LaSalle in the 325 00:20:07,770 --> 00:20:09,010 S3: Moody Radio studios. 326 00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:12,449 S1: And you cannot talk about the history of Moody Radio 327 00:20:12,450 --> 00:20:16,890 S1: without looking at something that we played with the station ID. 328 00:20:17,330 --> 00:20:21,290 S1: The first thing we played, and that was letter week 329 00:20:21,490 --> 00:20:24,930 S1: and how many people got involved. Moody radio is not 330 00:20:24,930 --> 00:20:27,850 S1: just Wendall Loveless and the people in front of the microphone, 331 00:20:27,850 --> 00:20:31,730 S1: or the engineers faithfully going through the years. It's the 332 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:36,409 S1: listeners who Funded that and had a vision for it 333 00:20:36,410 --> 00:20:38,010 S1: from the very beginning. Phil. 334 00:20:38,050 --> 00:20:41,129 S2: Yeah, they let's put it this way. They caught the vision. 335 00:20:41,530 --> 00:20:44,890 S2: They caught it. Uh, it was presented to them. I 336 00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:50,209 S2: found a piece in the in a 1925 Moody monthly 337 00:20:50,210 --> 00:20:54,850 S2: magazine where it was talking ahead of what our plans are. 338 00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:57,530 S2: And if you would like to join with us. Sounds 339 00:20:57,530 --> 00:21:00,490 S2: just like a Sheraton pitch, but I saw that in 340 00:21:00,490 --> 00:21:05,210 S2: 1925 and it. For the first couple of years there weren't. 341 00:21:05,210 --> 00:21:08,770 S2: I don't think there were any, uh, financial appeals. Somebody 342 00:21:08,770 --> 00:21:11,290 S2: had the idea, you know, we get these letters and 343 00:21:11,290 --> 00:21:17,450 S2: people call us. Why not have a campaign to tell people, hey, 344 00:21:17,690 --> 00:21:21,570 S2: this week, write a letter to us, tell us how 345 00:21:21,570 --> 00:21:24,530 S2: we're doing, how do we minister to you? So in 346 00:21:24,530 --> 00:21:31,129 S2: January of 1929, they did that, and 5000 letters came 347 00:21:31,130 --> 00:21:33,280 S2: in from that week of appeal. 348 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,680 S1: And what was the reach? What was it wasn't just 349 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,520 S1: in Chicago and not just Illinois. It's all over because 350 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,200 S1: of the way radio was at the time. 351 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,639 S2: Right when WMC went on the air in July of 1926, 352 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,080 S2: they had erected 100 foot self-supporting towers on the women's 353 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,120 S2: dorm and on the original 153 building and ran a 354 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,359 S2: wire between the two towers, and then had the wire 355 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,200 S2: drop down to the transmitter, very crude dipole antenna. But 356 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,040 S2: in January of 1928, they went from the 500 watt 357 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:12,400 S2: in downtown Chicago to 5000W, 20 miles west in Addison, Illinois, 358 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,920 S2: where our transmitter is still there today. But it became 359 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,720 S2: what was called a superstation, and it covered all of 360 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,840 S2: North America. 361 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,440 S3: You know, when people ask why letter Week was so important, 362 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,480 S3: I think that's it right there. People forget how phenomenally 363 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,720 S3: expensive radio was back then. All the new technology, all 364 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:38,400 S3: of the equipment, the specialized knowledge was breathtakingly expensive, and 365 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,760 S3: Moody had to figure out some way to continue the station. 366 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,080 S3: Most radio stations failed within the first two years because 367 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,440 S3: they couldn't keep up with the costs. Interestingly, when people 368 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,600 S3: talk about Moody radio, they don't understand that it really 369 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,920 S3: wasn't the first Christian radio station. It was actually the 70th. 370 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,720 S3: Number 70 on the Christian radio list. What happened to 371 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,040 S3: all of the others? Well, most of them failed because 372 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,840 S3: they couldn't afford to keep up. And so when when Coleman, 373 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,399 S3: Crowell and others took upon themselves to raise some money 374 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,520 S3: behind the scenes, what they did was they made sure 375 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,840 S3: that Moody Radio could last as long as it was, 376 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,800 S3: just by helping listeners understand how they can support such 377 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,000 S3: an important ministry. 378 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,280 S2: It was also the intersection of, uh, it was the 379 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,400 S2: fact that WMBI in Chicago had on the facilities on 380 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,960 S2: the premises the best Bible teachers and a student population 381 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,960 S2: of talented people, young people. And they brought all of 382 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,960 S2: that to the to the radio station. In the beginning, 383 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,280 S2: it was just Wendell Lovelace and his secretary, and then 384 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,800 S2: all the people that he was able to get on 385 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,040 S2: the air. So much so that in 1945, there were 386 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,080 S2: 150 people on the list. I have a list of 387 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:08,080 S2: 150 people that were full time, part time volunteers and 388 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,040 S2: predominantly students at the Moody Bible Institute. So none of 389 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,720 S2: the other early radio operators, whether it be a church 390 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,560 S2: they did not have they didn't have those people at 391 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,600 S2: at their at their facility. So they just didn't have 392 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,520 S2: the ability to produce the programs that Moody had. It 393 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,800 S2: was a it's not a perfect storm is a negative. 394 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,560 S2: It was a perfect arrangement that that God put together. 395 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,120 S2: And it was I it it, it was it was 396 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,200 S2: also it was all the the hand of D.L. Moody. 397 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,920 S2: Still reaching forward, he casts a long shadow. 398 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,880 S1: That's what I was going to ask you. What do 399 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,280 S1: you think D.L. Moody would have thought of Moody Radio? 400 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,800 S1: So do you think about that? And the other question 401 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:57,080 S1: I have is the. The enemy hates this message of 402 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,760 S1: the gospel going out one person at a time or 403 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,440 S1: in a church. But think of how much he must 404 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,520 S1: have hated this being on the airwaves. I want to 405 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,720 S1: talk with you about that spiritual warfare. This is Moody 406 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,920 S1: radio 100 years proclaiming the gospel. I hope you're catching 407 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,880 S1: the excitement that we have for this new book. It's 408 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,120 S1: our thank you this month. It's an expensive book to 409 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,480 S1: put together with all the pictures and everything, but it 410 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,240 S1: is so worth it. I'd love to put it in 411 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,120 S1: your hands. Be as generous as you can today. Just 412 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:34,879 S1: go to Chris Fabry live.org. Chris fabriclive.au. Or call us 413 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,119 S1: at 866.95. Fabry. The book is written by Kevin Junghans 414 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,879 S1: and Phil Shapard, our guests here at the Radio Backyard 415 00:25:43,880 --> 00:26:06,679 S1: Fence today. Again, Chris Fabry live dot ORG. Thanks for 416 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,919 S1: joining us today at the Radio Backyard Fence. Oh, I 417 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,520 S1: can't contain myself because I have been a fan of 418 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,560 S1: Moody Radio, even though I didn't come along until the 1980s. 419 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,399 S1: I've been a fan of Moody Radio because I've seen 420 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,320 S1: the longevity, because I think the reason why it's been 421 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,750 S1: around 100 years is the same reason that Moody Bible 422 00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:29,830 S1: Institute has been around for more than longer than that. 423 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:32,990 S1: And that is, it has stayed true to its original 424 00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:37,790 S1: vision to give the gospel, to root ourselves in God's 425 00:26:37,790 --> 00:26:40,790 S1: Word and to give that out that which doesn't change. 426 00:26:41,070 --> 00:26:43,869 S1: This is Moody radio is a new book by Kevin 427 00:26:43,869 --> 00:26:48,510 S1: Muggins and Phil Shapard 100 Years Proclaiming the Gospel. It's 428 00:26:48,510 --> 00:26:52,310 S1: our featured resource today, and it's our thank you gift. Oh, 429 00:26:52,350 --> 00:26:56,150 S1: go to the website, kris.org. If you have known anything 430 00:26:56,150 --> 00:26:58,470 S1: about Moody Radio through the years, you're going to want 431 00:26:58,470 --> 00:27:00,709 S1: to get a copy of this. It's going to explain 432 00:27:00,710 --> 00:27:02,750 S1: a lot of things that you did not know, and 433 00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:05,990 S1: some things that you did, and some voices behind the scenes. 434 00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:08,470 S1: We're going to hear one of those in just a minute. Again, 435 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:14,030 S1: go to kris.org. Kevin, you were talking in the break 436 00:27:14,109 --> 00:27:18,149 S1: about the, the pushback and, and the reviews of Moody 437 00:27:18,190 --> 00:27:20,710 S1: Radio and the Chicago Tribune. Tell me about that. 438 00:27:20,790 --> 00:27:24,750 S3: Right away, the next morning after that first broadcast, the 439 00:27:24,790 --> 00:27:27,710 S3: Chicago Tribune was running a review of the radio station 440 00:27:27,710 --> 00:27:31,790 S3: already an interesting. To us. It got glowing reviews. Here's 441 00:27:31,790 --> 00:27:34,630 S3: what the reporter said. The tone of this new station 442 00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:39,550 S3: is remarkably pure piano. Instrumental, vocal and voice tones seem 443 00:27:39,550 --> 00:27:43,110 S3: to be transmitted with the last degree of technical perfection. 444 00:27:43,390 --> 00:27:46,750 S3: The musical program was high class in every sense of 445 00:27:46,750 --> 00:27:50,830 S3: the word. That's what the Chicago Tribune said in 1926. 446 00:27:50,910 --> 00:27:55,750 S3: But that's not all that happened. The next morning, the 447 00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:59,630 S3: Chicago Tribune lawyers caught wind of the whole thing. They 448 00:27:59,670 --> 00:28:03,669 S3: drafted a very formal shakedown letter and presented it to 449 00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:08,270 S3: the Moody Radio brass. The next day, complaining that Moody 450 00:28:08,270 --> 00:28:13,070 S3: Radio's signal was on the wrong frequency. And the real 451 00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:16,990 S3: reason behind it was because the Chicago Tribune Tribune ran 452 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:22,070 S3: a station they called WGN standing for the world's greatest newspaper. 453 00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:24,990 S3: They were worried they might have some competition. 454 00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:25,830 S2: Wow. 455 00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:29,510 S3: And that happened a lot where the biggest players in 456 00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:34,310 S3: radio could throw their muscle around and force out of 457 00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:38,870 S3: the game the smaller players. Fortunately, Moody had a wonderful 458 00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:42,870 S3: behind the scenes personality in the form of Coleman Crowell. 459 00:28:43,070 --> 00:28:47,230 S3: He was the son of Henry Crowell, the owner of 460 00:28:47,270 --> 00:28:51,150 S3: Quaker Oats, who had in many ways impacted and funded 461 00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:54,870 S3: Moody in a lot of ways. His son, Coleman Crowell, 462 00:28:55,150 --> 00:28:59,390 S3: was a graduate of Yale University and had a major 463 00:28:59,390 --> 00:29:03,709 S3: in mechanical engineering. He was kind of the technical brains 464 00:29:03,710 --> 00:29:07,190 S3: behind Moody Radio at the start. And so when the 465 00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:09,910 S3: lawyers came in and said, oh, you're on the wrong frequency, 466 00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:14,230 S3: there was Coleman Crowell with his mechanical engineering degree from 467 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:18,070 S3: Yale and his nice three piece suit saying, no, I'm sorry, 468 00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:19,430 S3: you're not right about that. 469 00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:21,910 S6: I love it. 470 00:29:22,150 --> 00:29:24,150 S2: I love it. And I believe there was a list 471 00:29:24,150 --> 00:29:30,910 S2: of stations that were, uh, had received commendation for their 472 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:36,790 S2: performance technical performance. It was a list of maybe ten stations. And, uh, 473 00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:42,390 S2: WMBI was on that list. WGN was not. Interesting. 474 00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:46,270 S1: And look at remember, uh, now let's fast forward a 475 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:50,470 S1: lot of years when Bob Murfin hosted Morning Clock and 476 00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:53,870 S1: they had the Chicago Tribune had, you know, the best 477 00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:56,070 S1: personality on morning radio. 478 00:29:56,110 --> 00:29:57,350 S2: Who makes your morning. 479 00:29:57,350 --> 00:30:00,710 S1: Who makes your morning okay. And so this shows the 480 00:30:00,710 --> 00:30:03,830 S1: faithfulness of the people who listen to Moody Radio. There 481 00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:05,750 S1: were folks who went out and got stacks of those 482 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:10,150 S1: tribunes who, you know, responded. And instead of it was 483 00:30:10,150 --> 00:30:14,070 S1: Bob Collins who was the host for WGN at the time, 484 00:30:14,110 --> 00:30:18,030 S1: the expected winner. Yes, it had to be. It had 485 00:30:18,030 --> 00:30:21,870 S1: to be Bob Collins and Bob Murfin came in number 486 00:30:21,910 --> 00:30:25,590 S1: one and to Bob Collins and W s credit, they 487 00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:28,870 S1: had Bob Murfin on the air that day, didn't they? 488 00:30:29,070 --> 00:30:32,670 S2: Actually, both stations were connected together and so the listeners 489 00:30:32,670 --> 00:30:36,709 S2: of WGN got to hear Bob Murfins program and vice 490 00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:41,590 S2: versa with Bob Collins. The interesting thing is that there 491 00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:45,550 S2: were 18 names on the ballots that were printed in 492 00:30:45,550 --> 00:30:48,670 S2: the Chicago Tribune, and you had to have an actual ballot. 493 00:30:48,670 --> 00:30:52,190 S2: You couldn't photocopy them. And so there were listeners of 494 00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:55,670 S2: WMI who were standing at the end of the trains, 495 00:30:55,670 --> 00:30:59,110 S2: when people were going to throw their newspapers away, gathering 496 00:30:59,110 --> 00:31:03,510 S2: newspapers and clipping out the ballot. But there were 18 497 00:31:03,510 --> 00:31:06,710 S2: names on the ballot, and Bob Murfins name was not 498 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:11,550 S2: even on it. He won the contest as a write in. Wow. Okay. 499 00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:16,390 S2: And here's it gets better. He won with 52% of 500 00:31:16,390 --> 00:31:20,350 S2: the vote, and number two had 18%. 501 00:31:20,390 --> 00:31:21,510 S3: Not even close. 502 00:31:22,110 --> 00:31:22,990 S2: Isn't that something? 503 00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:27,470 S1: It is. Well, it shows the faithfulness of of the listeners, 504 00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:31,150 S1: you know. And how much they love exactly how much 505 00:31:31,150 --> 00:31:34,430 S1: they loved Bob. Now, one of the programs that we're 506 00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:37,390 S1: going to do here in July is and let me 507 00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:39,870 S1: tell you, let me stop. I'm so excited. This is 508 00:31:39,870 --> 00:31:42,830 S1: Moody radio is a book that Kevin and Phil put 509 00:31:42,830 --> 00:31:47,110 S1: together 100 years proclaiming the gospel. This month, it's our. 510 00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:49,990 S1: Thank you. I'd love to put it in your hands. 511 00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:53,110 S1: If you go to the website Chris Fabry live.org, scroll down, 512 00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:55,350 S1: you'll see how you can get a copy. Just give 513 00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:57,710 S1: a gift of any size. Be as generous as you can. 514 00:31:57,710 --> 00:32:00,270 S1: I'm going to say that because this is an expensive book. 515 00:32:00,310 --> 00:32:02,950 S1: Or you could, it'll it'll come out next week. You 516 00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:05,390 S1: can go and order it if you'd like to do that. 517 00:32:05,390 --> 00:32:08,510 S1: But I'd like to put a copy in your hands. 518 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:11,910 S1: Just go to chris.org. Or you can call the number 519 00:32:11,910 --> 00:32:15,950 S1: 866953 and say, how do I get a copy of 520 00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:19,220 S1: that book? This is Moody radio. They will tell you. 521 00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:23,020 S2: Yeah, actually. And it's worth it for page 161, where 522 00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:25,220 S2: you get to see a picture of Chris Fabry with 523 00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:29,460 S2: Don Cole, and you get pictures of Mike Kellogg and 524 00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:33,100 S2: all of these people that, uh, that we've loved throughout 525 00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:34,460 S2: the years. Yeah. 526 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:38,180 S1: Behind the scenes. Okay, let's go way back. This is 527 00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:43,540 S1: going back to the 1930s, but it was recorded in 1965. 528 00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:45,980 S1: A man by the name of George Beverly Shea. 529 00:32:46,540 --> 00:32:51,060 S8: Hello, friends, this is George Beverly Shea. From September 1938 530 00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:54,620 S8: until June 1944. It was my privilege to be at 531 00:32:54,620 --> 00:32:59,780 S8: these microphones daily to say WMBI Chicago. And today it 532 00:32:59,780 --> 00:33:07,380 S8: would be WMBIAM and FM Chicago 606 1039 years of 533 00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:11,100 S8: sending out the life giving word of our Lord, the 534 00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:13,980 S8: one who came to give peace to the individual heart. 535 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:18,580 S8: Personal peace in a world of unrest. Speaking of the 536 00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:20,700 S8: passing of time, I don't know who said it, but 537 00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:25,980 S8: it's so true. Fear not. Tomorrow, for God is already there. 538 00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:32,620 S8: This is Bev Shea, WMBIAM and FM Chicago 606 ten. 539 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:35,740 S8: It's a privilege just to repeat the call letters once again. 540 00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:38,980 S1: Isn't that great to hear Bev's voice? Chris? 541 00:33:39,020 --> 00:33:42,620 S2: The only thing that I'm looking at. Page number 216 542 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:47,940 S2: and there's a picture of Bev holding a microphone. Now, 543 00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:51,220 S2: this microphone was not one that he spoke into at 544 00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:53,620 S2: the radio station, but it's one of the kind that 545 00:33:53,620 --> 00:33:56,820 S2: he did. And that was given to him when he 546 00:33:56,820 --> 00:34:00,020 S2: was 98 years old and his home. And when he 547 00:34:00,060 --> 00:34:03,860 S2: sat there, I took that picture. He kept going, WMBI 548 00:34:03,980 --> 00:34:09,219 S2: Chicago WMBI Chicago. And that microphone in that picture. In 549 00:34:09,219 --> 00:34:13,700 S2: page 216, he sat on his Steinway piano next to 550 00:34:13,739 --> 00:34:18,020 S2: his Grammy Award and Collene Kaleen. His wife told me 551 00:34:18,020 --> 00:34:22,100 S2: whenever anyone would come into the room after that 2007, 552 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,500 S2: I gave it to him. Uh. He would point out 553 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:27,660 S2: the microphone that was next to his Grammy, by the way, 554 00:34:27,660 --> 00:34:31,219 S2: which he won in 1966. But he was so proud 555 00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:36,180 S2: of that microphone because it represented his years before, uh, 556 00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:39,340 S2: being a part of the Graham Association. And he held 557 00:34:39,340 --> 00:34:41,180 S2: those years so dear in his heart. 558 00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:43,259 S1: That's one of the things I want to talk about 559 00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:45,380 S1: and a program this month, and that is the launching 560 00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:48,940 S1: pad that Moody Radio has been for a lot of men, 561 00:34:48,980 --> 00:34:51,819 S1: a lot of women, some in front of the microphone, 562 00:34:51,820 --> 00:34:56,660 S1: some who sang or wrote music and then allow then, 563 00:34:56,700 --> 00:35:00,780 S1: you know, their lives changed because of what happened behind 564 00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:03,500 S1: the scenes. So we're going to do that. But music 565 00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:07,419 S1: is such a part of Moody Radio, and especially in 566 00:35:07,420 --> 00:35:09,819 S1: those early days when it was live. I want you 567 00:35:09,820 --> 00:35:13,100 S1: to listen to this from the 1930s, I believe it 568 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,940 S1: was 39. Miracles and melodies. 569 00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:29,219 S5: And may be free. Are. May be things. 570 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:34,979 S9: Amid the harsh, discordant notes of a world torn with 571 00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:38,260 S9: strife and conflict. 1st May gain comfort from such lovely 572 00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,660 S9: hymns as Raise Me, Jesus to thy bosom, played on 573 00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:43,260 S9: the incomparable Novachord. 574 00:35:55,380 --> 00:35:58,180 S1: I've never heard of a novachord until I heard that. 575 00:35:58,180 --> 00:36:00,420 S1: Do you have any idea what the Novachord is? 576 00:36:00,420 --> 00:36:04,620 S3: It was made right here in Chicago by the Hammond Company. 577 00:36:04,860 --> 00:36:08,540 S3: In fact, people probably remember the Hammond organ either in 578 00:36:08,580 --> 00:36:12,979 S3: their church or played in jazz music, especially built right 579 00:36:12,980 --> 00:36:16,420 S3: here in Chicago, not far from the Moody campus. Before 580 00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:18,940 S3: they invented the Hammond organ, they had this thing called 581 00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:23,540 S3: the Novachord, which was probably like an early synthesizer. And 582 00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:25,660 S3: you can hear that tone in the background. 583 00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:29,140 S1: Would they push their feet? Would they use their feet 584 00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:30,940 S1: to do it or something else? 585 00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:32,020 S2: It's electronic. 586 00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:35,580 S3: It's just an electronic keyboard, and it shares a lot 587 00:36:35,580 --> 00:36:38,860 S3: of affinity with the electronic keyboards you see today. Except 588 00:36:38,860 --> 00:36:42,419 S3: it was very early 1930s. They bought one here at 589 00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:45,900 S3: Moody when they opened the studio in Crowell Hall, and 590 00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,100 S3: it became a familiar sound on the radio. 591 00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:52,460 S2: Yeah. And that particular program, Musical miracles, melodies, the the 592 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:56,779 S2: concept came from the president of Moody at the time, 593 00:36:57,020 --> 00:37:01,299 S2: Will H. Houghton, who himself was a comedian on the 594 00:37:01,300 --> 00:37:02,780 S2: vaudeville circuit in. 595 00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:05,020 S1: Was he really BBC years? 596 00:37:05,219 --> 00:37:09,660 S2: Okay. But he had the idea. He had the idea 597 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:14,420 S2: for that after having launched a network program called Let's 598 00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:17,660 S2: Go Back to the Bible, but miracles and melodies. And 599 00:37:17,660 --> 00:37:21,300 S2: they actually hired a producer outside, down in the loop, 600 00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:25,060 S2: away from Moody, and they produced that. And Bev, Bev 601 00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:29,540 S2: Shea said that he was very tough. He was so exacting. Well, 602 00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:32,779 S2: the fact was they recorded those live to record, and 603 00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:36,060 S2: if anybody made a mistake, they had to break it 604 00:37:36,060 --> 00:37:38,979 S2: and they had to start all over again. But, uh, 605 00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:43,299 S2: that one, that program actually ran from 1940, uh, it 606 00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:47,020 S2: was released up until 1969. And the little known fact 607 00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:51,219 S2: is Bev was the announcer when you get into the drama. 608 00:37:51,219 --> 00:37:53,660 S2: So you've got the music first, then it goes to 609 00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:57,620 S2: a real life drama of a miracle. And Bev is 610 00:37:57,620 --> 00:38:01,859 S2: the announcer who announces the, the, the, the story in that. 611 00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:04,300 S2: But it lasted for a long time. We have we, 612 00:38:04,340 --> 00:38:07,620 S2: we have a number of extant copies of that program. 613 00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:14,090 S1: You cannot understand Moody Radio today without knowing what has happened, 614 00:38:14,090 --> 00:38:18,170 S1: to remember what has happened before. And that's what Phil 615 00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:21,050 S1: and Kevin have done in this book. This is Moody 616 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:26,330 S1: radio 100 years proclaiming the gospel. There's so many pictures. 617 00:38:26,330 --> 00:38:28,930 S1: It is such a rich history. Even if you're new 618 00:38:28,930 --> 00:38:31,370 S1: to Moody Radio, this will be fun for you, but 619 00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:35,090 S1: especially if you have a little bit of history with 620 00:38:35,290 --> 00:38:39,569 S1: somebody like Don Cole or Mike Kellogg and music through 621 00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:41,489 S1: the night, we're going to hear from them coming up 622 00:38:41,489 --> 00:38:44,530 S1: straight ahead. But if you go to Chris Fabry live.org, 623 00:38:44,570 --> 00:38:46,650 S1: you'll see how you can get a copy of This 624 00:38:46,650 --> 00:38:50,010 S1: is Moody Radio by giving a gift of any size 625 00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:52,970 S1: right there. Chris Fabry live dot ORG. 626 00:39:14,170 --> 00:39:16,810 S10: It's such a beautiful experience to me to sit here 627 00:39:16,810 --> 00:39:23,210 S10: in a softly lighted, small, intimate studio and produce a 628 00:39:23,210 --> 00:39:24,930 S10: program called Night Watch. 629 00:39:25,770 --> 00:39:30,690 S1: All that voice of Bill Pierce, the music and then 630 00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:33,489 S1: the voice. And then I think of Chuck Wagner, who 631 00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:37,250 S1: came along after Bill, and then of Mike Kellogg, who 632 00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:40,489 S1: did music through the night. It's the same feel that 633 00:39:40,489 --> 00:39:41,730 S1: you get, Kevin. 634 00:39:42,090 --> 00:39:44,650 S3: Bill Pierce had one of the great voices of the 635 00:39:44,650 --> 00:39:49,690 S3: 20th century. Anyone who's ever heard that voice knows instantly 636 00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:54,850 S3: it could only be one person. Interestingly, he understood how 637 00:39:54,850 --> 00:39:59,610 S3: radio was changing. It was going from a short period 638 00:39:59,610 --> 00:40:02,290 S3: of time where the broadcasts would just be during the 639 00:40:02,290 --> 00:40:05,250 S3: day to a round the clock approach, where they had 640 00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:09,490 S3: to have appropriate programming for the evenings. all through the night, 641 00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:13,050 S3: and they quickly discovered that the programs would be different. 642 00:40:13,050 --> 00:40:15,930 S3: They couldn't sound quite like a morning show, could they? 643 00:40:16,290 --> 00:40:19,169 S3: And so he completely turned the whole genre on its 644 00:40:19,210 --> 00:40:23,730 S3: ear and deliberately created something that feels right when you 645 00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:27,050 S3: listen to it in the evening. He found out there's 646 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:29,569 S3: a whole new audience of people who worked at night, 647 00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:33,410 S3: who traveled at night, who were awake at night and 648 00:40:33,410 --> 00:40:37,410 S3: listening to the radio. He tapped into that audience because 649 00:40:37,450 --> 00:40:40,450 S3: a lot of times that particular audience was up at 650 00:40:40,450 --> 00:40:44,250 S3: night and they had questions. He had a wonderful way 651 00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:47,969 S3: of taking the sort of questions that you wonder about, 652 00:40:48,010 --> 00:40:51,650 S3: turning them around and pointing them to the gospel, and 653 00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:55,410 S3: did it in such a warm, inviting way. Some people 654 00:40:55,410 --> 00:41:01,129 S3: didn't necessarily like the approach. It was slower. Yes, and 655 00:41:01,130 --> 00:41:06,489 S3: sometimes languid. And he would pause for a long time 656 00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:10,609 S3: In between each phrase, which seemed to fit the time 657 00:41:10,610 --> 00:41:13,569 S3: of day so well. But if you were expecting more 658 00:41:13,570 --> 00:41:15,890 S3: than morning radio, it wasn't like that at all. 659 00:41:16,530 --> 00:41:19,089 S1: But it was also a musical musical. He was so 660 00:41:19,130 --> 00:41:22,370 S1: musical with. He played the trombone. He did. 661 00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:23,250 S2: And he sang. 662 00:41:23,570 --> 00:41:24,090 S1: Yes. 663 00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:27,969 S3: Top notch musician in World War Two. He played in 664 00:41:27,969 --> 00:41:31,009 S3: one of the service bands and traveled the Pacific Ocean, 665 00:41:31,290 --> 00:41:35,890 S3: playing in Bob Crosby's service band. Bob was the the 666 00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:40,890 S3: brother of Bing Crosby and, uh, was a well-known jazz musician. 667 00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:44,609 S3: Pierce could step into any jazz band in the country 668 00:41:44,770 --> 00:41:49,089 S3: and play his trombone and do so authoritatively. He was 669 00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:51,850 S3: one of. He was on the side, one of America's 670 00:41:51,850 --> 00:41:56,129 S3: great jazz trombonists, and he figured out how he could 671 00:41:56,130 --> 00:41:59,489 S3: take that ability that he learned when he was in 672 00:41:59,489 --> 00:42:03,250 S3: the Marines during World War Two, turned it into a ministry, 673 00:42:03,250 --> 00:42:07,890 S3: and had a wonderful ministry producing records featuring his trombone 674 00:42:07,890 --> 00:42:11,730 S3: and his singing, and also featuring his music on Moody 675 00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:15,130 S3: radio in ways that really changed the way music sounded. 676 00:42:15,770 --> 00:42:20,370 S1: Here is another voice that our listeners might remember on 677 00:42:20,410 --> 00:42:21,330 S1: Moody Radio. 678 00:42:22,170 --> 00:42:28,050 S6: Hello and welcome to Music Through the Night. I'm your host, 679 00:42:28,050 --> 00:42:32,130 S6: Michael Kellogg. I'd like to spend the next few hours 680 00:42:32,130 --> 00:42:38,850 S6: with you or any portion of that time. Basically, what 681 00:42:38,850 --> 00:42:41,290 S6: we'd like to do during the time together that we 682 00:42:41,290 --> 00:42:46,650 S6: have is magnify the Lord Jesus Christ to glorify him 683 00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:50,930 S6: and all that we say in the music that we play. 684 00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:56,890 S6: In the thoughts that we hear from God's Word and 685 00:42:56,890 --> 00:43:02,090 S6: from men of God. We hope that you can spend 686 00:43:02,090 --> 00:43:04,370 S6: a little bit of your time with us this evening. 687 00:43:05,410 --> 00:43:09,770 S1: So that had the same kind of feel that we 688 00:43:09,810 --> 00:43:14,610 S1: had with Bill Pierce, but just a different voice, a 689 00:43:14,890 --> 00:43:18,250 S1: great deep voice. You work with Mike many years. Phil? 690 00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:22,890 S2: Yeah, I think it's as simple as knowing your audience 691 00:43:23,170 --> 00:43:28,170 S2: because Mike knew that people were listening for companionship. They 692 00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:32,529 S2: they needed encouragement. And if they were awake after midnight, 693 00:43:32,530 --> 00:43:36,649 S2: there was something going on that kept them awake. And 694 00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:39,370 S2: Mike often used to take a comfort in knowing that 695 00:43:39,370 --> 00:43:43,570 S2: he put a lot of people to sleep. I gotta 696 00:43:43,570 --> 00:43:48,529 S2: tell you, Mike and I met together in the Atlanta airport, 697 00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:53,649 S2: and one of his faithful writing listeners also came there, 698 00:43:53,650 --> 00:43:56,170 S2: and we were on the concourse, concourse number two, I 699 00:43:56,170 --> 00:43:58,569 S2: think it was. And for the first time, she got 700 00:43:58,570 --> 00:44:02,130 S2: to meet Mike Kellogg. And I thought to myself, there's 701 00:44:02,170 --> 00:44:05,680 S2: thousands of people running past us, back and forth. And 702 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,320 S2: in her mind, there's one guy here, it's Mike Kellogg. 703 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,880 S2: It was so profound and experience for me to realize 704 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,719 S2: how powerful Mike's ministry was in the life of at 705 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,560 S2: least that person. He spoke to her heart and he 706 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,760 S2: helped many people, um, helped. You know, there's many people 707 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,480 S2: who got sent off into eternity listening to Mike Kellogg. 708 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,960 S1: Yes. And that emotion, that connection, is what is all 709 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,000 S1: over this book with all of the pictures and all 710 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,520 S1: that you've written. This is Moody radio 100 years proclaiming 711 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,160 S1: the gospel. It's our thank you right now. Give a 712 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,840 S1: gift of any size to Chris Fabry live. I can't 713 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,560 S1: end this program on the 1st of July without letting 714 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,600 S1: you hear from this man. 715 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,480 S11: We should be putting God on the box and planning, right? 716 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,720 S11: That's right. 717 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,480 S12: We cannot put him in a box and slam the 718 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,399 S12: lid down. And I myself, I have to tell you, 719 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,640 S12: I'm always hoping for some special manifestation of the Holy Spirit. 720 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,200 S11: Mhm. I am too. 721 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,200 S12: And, uh, I go many years without seeing it. And 722 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,759 S12: it seems to me that faith is holding on when 723 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,160 S12: you see no visible evidence of his presence. Our lives 724 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,320 S12: must be scrutinized. They've got to come under the scrutiny 725 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,040 S12: of God so that he will know, or that we 726 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,520 S12: will know what kind of Christians we were. And that's 727 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,160 S12: why in Romans 19 or rather 14, it says that 728 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,440 S12: we must all appear before the judgment seat of God. 729 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,760 S1: There is another voice from World War Two. Phil, another 730 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,560 S1: person who served in the military who then came. Well, 731 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,000 S1: he went to Angola as a missionary and then came 732 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,400 S1: eventually to Moody Bible Institute, I. We have only scratched 733 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,120 S1: the surface here. 734 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,560 S2: I know. 735 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,400 S1: Isn't that is so frustrating because there's so much to tell, 736 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,359 S1: but that's why I'm so glad we're giving the book 737 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,399 S1: away as a. Thank you. Thank you to. For all 738 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,000 S1: the work that you've done. You gotta come back later 739 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,240 S1: on in the. Because I think it was July 28th 740 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,640 S1: at WMB, I went on the air at. 741 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,680 S2: 7:30 p.m. Wednesday night, July 28th, 1926. 742 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,479 S1: Kevin. Thank you, thank you. What you're doing. 743 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,239 S3: This has been great fun. Loved it. 744 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,200 S1: Yeah. Phil, thanks for your work. 745 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,080 S2: Chris, as always. Thank you. 746 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,560 S1: This is Moody Radio, the book 100 Years Proclaiming the Gospel. 747 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,239 S1: You can find out more at Chris Fabry live.org. Chris 748 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,560 S1: Fabry live.org. Oh, I hope you've enjoyed the conversation today. 749 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,480 S1: The Radio Backyard Fence are programmed to production of Moody Radio, 750 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,080 S1: a Ministry of Moody Bible Institute.