WEBVTT - Mary Magdalene’s Story       

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<v S1>Just who was Mary Magdalene in the Bible? You know,

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<v S1>one touch from Jesus, and she was never the same.

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<v S1>Her new mission in life was to serve the one

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<v S1>who set her free. Well, on today's broadcast, you'll meet

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<v S1>Mary Magdalene in a fascinating conversation with Jill Ileene Smith. Plus,

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<v S1>we'll unwrap the mystery of the Cyrus Cylinder. You say?

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<v S1>What's that? You'll find out. And while we're at it,

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<v S1>we'll try to unwrap some of the mysteries that you've

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<v S1>encountered as you read Scripture. Welcome to the land and

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<v S1>the book with Old Testament scholar and Israel expert Doctor

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<v S1>Charlie Dyer. I'm John Gager, and you know, Charlie Passover

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<v S1>will soon be upon us. And one of the traditional

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<v S1>Passover questions is, hey, what makes this night different from

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<v S1>all others? Well, Passover is an important biblical holiday that

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<v S1>has great meaning for Jewish people and believers in Jesus.

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<v S1>And it seems like this is a great question to ask, right, Charlie?

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<v S2>Oh, absolutely, John. And if you want to know more

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<v S1>Its segment one of the land and the book with

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<v S1>our host, Charlie Dyer. We're looking at current events based

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<v S1>in the Middle East. Well, March 28th was the final

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<v S1>Friday of Ramadan, but it was also international cuts, or

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<v S1>Jerusalem Day, when Iran backed allies marched to call for

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<v S1>Israel's annihilation. As the month of Ramadan drew to an end,

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<v S1>what's been happening in the conflict between Iran, Israel and

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<v S1>the United States.

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<v S2>Yeah. You know, International Quds Day serves as a reminder

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<v S2>that Iran's leadership is actively committed to Israel's destruction and

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<v S2>has been since the ayatollahs took over there back in 1979.

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<v S2>This was actually the 46th year of that event. So

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<v S2>what's been happening over the last few weeks? Well, a

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<v S2>recent U.S. intelligence report said Iran isn't building a nuclear weapon. However,

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<v S2>that report is misleading. Iran is not currently constructing a

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<v S2>nuclear bomb, but they're preparing all the elements for that

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<v S2>to be assembled. Power plants and hospitals use uranium enriched

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<v S2>to between 3 and 5%. Iran now has £600 of

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<v S2>uranium enriched to a purity level of 60%. At that level,

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<v S2>it would only take around a week or so to

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<v S2>further enrich it to 90%, which would give them sufficient

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<v S2>uranium to produce 5 or 6 nuclear weapons. What isn't

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<v S2>known is how far along Iran is in developing the

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<v S2>technology to actually fashion and construct a nuclear device, but

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<v S2>they've spent decades working on those details. Now, 70 years ago,

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<v S2>it took the US just a few months to build

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<v S2>the first atomic bombs. Once we had sufficient uranium and plutonium.

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<v S2>Iran already has the missile technology to deliver a nuclear

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<v S2>bomb several thousand miles, putting all the Middle East and

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<v S2>most of Europe within range. So they might not yet

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<v S2>actually be building a nuclear bomb, but the timeline for

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<v S2>doing so is incredibly short once they make the decision

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<v S2>to do so. President Trump issued an ultimatum in early March,

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<v S2>giving Iran 60 days to enter into negotiations on a

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<v S2>new nuclear treaty. And this past week, the US moved

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<v S2>a group of B-2 stealth bombers and other aircraft to

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<v S2>a base in the Indian Ocean. What's unclear, probably deliberately so,

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<v S2>is if these bombers are there to attack the Houthis

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<v S2>in Yemen or the nuclear sites in Iran. But the

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<v S2>president did threaten to bomb Iran if they refused to

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<v S2>make a deal suggesting the planes might be a warning

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<v S2>to them. A second aircraft carrier is also on its

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<v S2>way to the region, adding additional support for a possible

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<v S2>US strike. Iran responded with threats to US bases in

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<v S2>the region. They also unveiled an underground missile base that

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<v S2>they claim housed thousands of ballistic and precision guided missiles,

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<v S2>and they've said they've already installed the missiles on their launchers.

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<v S2>Both sides are engaged in saber rattling, but there are

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<v S2>also possible hints at a willingness to negotiate. But the

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<v S2>time is starting to run out. We'll probably know in

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<v S2>about another month whether something's going to happen for peace

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<v S2>or for war.

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<v S1>That's Doctor Charlie Dyer. This is the land and the book.

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<v S1>I'm John Gage. We're looking at current events based in

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<v S1>the Middle East. Israeli archaeologists have been excavating a 2200

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<v S1>year old pyramid near the southern end of the Dead Sea.

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<v S1>What exactly is the structure being uncovered? What's it for?

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<v S1>What might have been its purpose?

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<v S2>Yeah, this is one of those where you have to

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<v S2>read it a little bit below the the headlines to

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<v S2>get all the details. Uh, Those who've been to Israel

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<v S2>and stayed down at the southern end of the Dead Sea,

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<v S2>and the hotels there, may have seen the general area

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<v S2>where this discovery was made. On the drive from the

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<v S2>Dead Sea toward Arad and Beersheba, the bus climbs up

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<v S2>into the wilderness, and along the way there are several

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<v S2>spots where you can look back to view the Dead Sea.

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<v S2>That's the area where this discovery was made. But someone

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<v S2>looking for a pyramid like the ones in Egypt would

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<v S2>be disappointed. The pyramid like structure found here is about

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<v S2>19ft tall and blends in with the surrounding rock. Originally,

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<v S2>the structure was a tower or a building that likely

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<v S2>guarded the roadway from Edom, past the Dead Sea toward Gaza.

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<v S2>So far, the excavators have uncovered papyrus fragments, wooden tools, fabrics,

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<v S2>and coins from the Hellenistic period, sometime after the structure

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<v S2>collapsed or was abandoned. The ruins were then reused by

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<v S2>someone who fashioned it into a monumental grave for himself.

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<v S2>While some artifacts from the grave were also discovered. The

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<v S2>grave must have been looted a long time ago. Excavations

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<v S2>at the site are continuing, so we'll provide an update

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<v S2>should anything else of significance be discovered.

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<v S1>How tall is this thing, do you think, Charlie?

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<v S2>They say 19ft. So just under 20ft tall. But, uh,

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<v S2>you know, it's so rocky in that area. It just

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<v S2>looks like all the other rocks in the area. But,

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<v S2>you know, as as they've explored over time, they did

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<v S2>notice it was, you know, man made these rocks have

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<v S2>been piled up. And then finally somebody decided, well, let's

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<v S2>take a look and see what's there.

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<v S1>Well, several news outlets in Israel reported on the release

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<v S1>of CIA documents suggesting the discovery of the Ark of

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<v S1>the covenant. Are these reports credible, or was that just

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<v S1>an April Fool's Day joke?

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<v S2>You know, if this story had appeared on April 1st,

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<v S2>I would have just assumed it was an April Fool's

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<v S2>Day joke, but it actually was published before April 1st.

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<v S2>The essence of the story is that declassified government documents

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<v S2>from 1988 show the CIA conducting a secret project to

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<v S2>test the possibility of using ESP or other psychic powers

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<v S2>to locate the Ark of the covenant. Kind of thinking

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<v S2>of the theme from the Raiders of the Lost Ark

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<v S2>at this point. But during the experiment, the term Ark

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<v S2>of the covenant was written down. Placed in an envelope

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<v S2>and then a remote, viewers were asked to identify and

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<v S2>locate the object. Without knowing what it was. During the experiment,

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<v S2>one individual described a container made of wood, gold, or silver,

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<v S2>similar in shape to a coffin adorned with images of

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<v S2>six winged angels. The individual also said the object was hidden.

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<v S2>They said subterranean, dark, wet, suggesting it still exists, though concealed. So,

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<v S2>you know, really, what are we to make of these

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<v S2>reports and this experiment? Well, I got three quick thoughts. First,

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<v S2>this could simply be a case of a lucky guess

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<v S2>by someone with an overactive imagination. Remember Raiders of the

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<v S2>Lost Ark? The movie was released in 1981, and filming

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<v S2>was underway for the 1989 sequel at the time of

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<v S2>this experiment. Now, when asked to find something that was lost.

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<v S2>It's possible the person simply thought of the Ark of

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<v S2>the covenant because of the movie. That second thought there

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<v S2>could be something more sinister here. Demonic influence Satan and

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<v S2>his forces can work through so-called psychic powers to reveal

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<v S2>things that almost seem like ESP, and that's why we're

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<v S2>to avoid things like that. My third thought, and here's

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<v S2>what I think we really need to remember. None of

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<v S2>this proves the existence of the real Ark of the covenant.

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<v S2>In Jeremiah 316, God said, in the last days, men

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<v S2>will no longer say, the ark of the covenant of

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<v S2>the Lord. It won't enter their minds or be remembered.

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<v S2>It won't be missed, nor will another one be made.

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<v S2>You know when the glory of the Lord left the temple,

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<v S2>the ark became nothing more than a gold covered box.

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<v S2>So it's not hidden in a warehouse in the Middle

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<v S2>East or in Washington, D.C., or anywhere else, according to

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<v S2>the Bible.

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<v S1>Yeah. Well, haven't you said before you your best suspicion

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<v S1>is that it is long gone. It deteriorated.

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<v S2>Yeah. Again, when God's glory left, it was just a

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<v S2>wooden box taken to Babylon. And with all the gold

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<v S2>that was used in it, it was melted down. And

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<v S2>I don't think we're going to see it. The real

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<v S2>one is in heaven. We know that the copy is

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<v S2>no longer with us.

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<v S1>Israeli researchers have uncovered the equivalent of a genetic on

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<v S1>off switch that they believe could help pave the way

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<v S1>for new treatments of some diseases. How exactly does this

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<v S1>latest innovation from amazing Israel work, Charlie?

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<v S2>Yeah, this seems to be so far beyond my pay grade,

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<v S2>but I found it just fascinating in the process of

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<v S2>mapping DNA methylation, a process where a small chemical tag

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<v S2>is attached to a specific part of a DNA molecule.

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<v S2>Israeli researchers gain insight into how genes are turned on

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<v S2>and off. The researchers identified more than 34,000 genomic regions

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<v S2>with distinct on off methylation patterns, many of which vary

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<v S2>depending on the cell type. They also discovered previously unknown

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<v S2>imprinting effects, where genes can be expressed differently depending on

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<v S2>whether they're inherited from the mother or the father. The

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<v S2>research opens up wide ranging possibilities for understanding the molecular

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<v S2>basis of genetic diseases. One of the most immediate benefits

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<v S2>could be the development of more accurate diagnostic tests for

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<v S2>diseases like cancer or other genetic disorders. It also holds

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<v S2>out promise for age related diseases like Alzheimer's. The Bible

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<v S2>tells us that we are fearfully and wonderfully made, and

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<v S2>this research from Amazing Israel shines a spotlight on one

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<v S2>aspect of God's creation of our bodies that could someday

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<v S2>lead to new, life changing advances in medicine. All thanks

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<v S2>to these dedicated doctors and scientists and researchers from Hebrew

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<v S2>University and Hadassah Medical Center.

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<v S1>Thank you Charlie. And that's a look at current events.

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<v S1>I'm curious, what is the Cyrus cylinder we'll be talking

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<v S1>about later on?

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<v S2>Well, it was actually a cylinder found in Iran that

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<v S2>helps explain Isaiah 44 and his mention of Cyrus.

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<v S1>Okay, biblical evidence there in archaeology, but much more to

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<v S1>come on today's program before we get there, including our

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<v S1>conversation with Jill Eileen Smith about Mary Magdalene. Just who

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<v S1>was she? Why does her life matter still today? That's

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<v S1>all ahead on today's edition of The Land and the book.

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<v S1>All Mary has ever known is fear and loss. Until

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<v S1>she uncovers a rabbi different than all the others. One

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<v S1>touch from Jesus. And she is never the same. Her

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<v S1>new mission in life is to serve the one who

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<v S1>set her free. But when the unthinkable happens, she must

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<v S1>fight not to descend into darkness once again. If you're curious,

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<v S1>we're talking about Mary Magdalene, the woman you've met in Scripture,

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<v S1>and today you're about to meet her in person. Through

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<v S1>the research and imagination of Jill Eileen Smith, this is

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<v S1>the land and the book, by the way. I'm John Gager,

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<v S1>inviting you to pause with me now for a quick

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<v S1>idea on what it could really look like to love

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<v S1>on our Jewish friends and neighbors. Opportunities to share Yeshua

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<v S1>with your Jewish friends come in all kinds of shapes

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<v S1>and sizes. Beth Evelyn's got a great story. She serves

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<v S1>on staff at Olive Tree Congregation in suburban Chicago. Beth.

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<v S3>One day I was talking on the phone with someone

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<v S3>from technical support about my computer. And when he saw

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<v S3>the name of our congregation, he started speaking to me

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<v S3>in Hebrew. Well, I don't speak Hebrew, but I did

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<v S3>take the opportunity to explain to him that we are

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<v S3>a congregation of Jewish people who believe in Jesus, and

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<v S3>he had not really explored that very much. And so

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<v S3>we talked about it a little bit more. And because

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<v S3>he was on the phone, I thought, well, I need

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<v S3>to give him some resources. So I directed him to

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<v S3>the website In Search of Shalom, which is a website

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<v S3>that has a lot of Jewish believers testimonies on video.

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<v S3>And so you can direct Jewish people there, and they

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<v S3>can go in the privacy of their own home and

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<v S3>watch these videos of people who have powerful testimonies. And

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<v S3>they're all Jewish believers.

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<v S1>In search of shalom.

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<v S3>Yes.

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<v S1>Great resource for somebody that's maybe just with tech support

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<v S1>on the phone. Thoughts there from Beth Taplin, who's with

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<v S1>Olive Tree Congregation here on the land and the book.

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<v S1>Jill Ileene Smith loves Jesus, loves his word and all

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<v S1>things related to learning more about the culture and times

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<v S1>of the people of the Bible, particularly the women whom

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<v S1>God has immortalized there. She's the best selling and award

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<v S1>winning author of many biblical novels, including her first series,

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<v S1>The Wives of King David. It's Great to Have you

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<v S1>on the land and the book, Jill.

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<v S4>Well, thanks for having me, John.

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<v S1>Well, we're here to meet the subject of your newest release,

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<v S1>Dawn of Grace, Mary Magdalene's story. Let me start by

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<v S1>asking you what drew you to the story of Mary

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<v S1>Magdalene in the first place?

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<v S4>Oh, boy. Well, I had written about almost all of

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<v S4>the major Old Testament women, and I wanted to come

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<v S4>up with more to write because I still had that desire.

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<v S4>I believe God created me with that desire to write

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<v S4>these stories. So I switched to the New Testament, and

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<v S4>then it was like, okay, who? And it's more like

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<v S4>which one was most interesting to me, and she was

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<v S4>one of them. So she was the first one. I

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<v S4>have two more coming down the road in the New Testament.

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<v S1>So great. Hey, do you think that we give Mary

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<v S1>Magdalene the spotlight in Scripture that she deserves? Have we

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<v S1>have we taken the time to really understand her? Why

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<v S1>or why not?

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<v S4>You know, as a culture worldwide, I think there's a

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<v S4>lot of misunderstanding about Mary Magdalene. And I remember doing

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<v S4>some research and I won't be able to quote the

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<v S4>guy's name exactly, but I think he was a pope

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<v S4>or a bishop or someone years and years ago who

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<v S4>kind of combined some of the different women in Scripture, like,

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<v S4>you know, the sinful woman that weeps at Jesus feet

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<v S4>or whatever, and kind of made the unnamed women part

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<v S4>of Mary Magdalene's story, and that's where she got the idea,

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<v S4>or we got as a world, whatever the idea, she

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<v S4>was a prostitute or the wife of Jesus, which is

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<v S4>a heretical thing going on. But the Bible clearly says

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<v S4>she was delivered of seven demons. That's all he tells us.

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<v S4>And then she helped support Jesus out of her means.

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<v S4>So that made me pause and go, well, how did

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<v S4>she get that money? You know, where did she have means?

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<v S4>Was she wealthy? Was she? I mean, I've read all

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<v S4>kinds of books on her. Some people think she was

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<v S4>older because she's named first a lot in Scripture, but

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<v S4>that doesn't mean for sure. She might have just been

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<v S4>the leader because she had a leadership ability, you know.

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<v S4>And I think the demon possession thing is something we

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<v S4>don't really understand in our culture, so we don't. I

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<v S4>guess maybe we just think of her more easily as

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<v S4>a prostitute. Yeah, but no, I think we need to

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<v S4>understand that because there's a lot of people with serious

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<v S4>mental issues in our world and a lot of evil,

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<v S4>and you can imagine the evil that goes on. You

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<v S4>have to ask yourself, is that someone who's just mentally ill,

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<v S4>or is there a demon situation going on like there

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<v S4>was back in Jesus day? There was a lot of

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<v S4>demon possession then, and I don't have any doubt that

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<v S4>there still exists today.

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<v S1>Yeah. Today on the land and the book An Unusual

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<v S1>Conversation About Mary Magdalene with Jill Eileen Smith describe Mary's

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<v S1>struggles as best we can conjecture. Obviously, she's been delivered

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<v S1>from this, uh, being indwelt by unclean spirits, demons. I mean,

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<v S1>that has to leave some scars, though, perhaps. What do

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<v S1>you think are her her struggles?

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<v S4>Well, I think if it was me, you know, and

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<v S4>I'd been really sick or had a really oppressed, something

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<v S4>oppressed me for a really long time, like she did, um,

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<v S4>whom the son sets free is free indeed, but that

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<v S4>doesn't mean she felt it. I envisioned her as relieved

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<v S4>to be free of the demons, but it's kind of like,

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<v S4>are they going to stay away? You know, I felt

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<v S4>like that she could have a fear that if I

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<v S4>don't stay close to Jesus, I'm susceptible. Especially when Jesus

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<v S4>told that parable. If she heard it about, you know,

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<v S4>if a house has got a man's got demon possessed

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<v S4>and the demons are cast out and he doesn't clean

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<v S4>his house up or whatever, the demons come back, find

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<v S4>it all swept, but there's nothing to replace them. He's like,

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<v S4>I can't. I'm not quoting it exactly.

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<v S1>His condition, his condition, in the end, is worse than

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<v S1>in the beginning.

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<v S4>Right, right. And so that if she heard that, I mean,

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<v S4>she could think, well, could they come back? I mean,

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<v S4>those kind of questions went through my mind. So I

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<v S4>just envisioned her devotion, and she was the most devoted

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<v S4>of all the followers. She would not leave his side

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<v S4>at the crucifixion. She had to know where he was buried.

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<v S4>And Scripture, if you read the Gospels at the end,

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<v S4>indicates she may have gone to the tomb three times separately. Um,

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<v S4>you know, some people want to just say, oh, well,

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<v S4>this says it this way, but maybe she was the

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<v S4>first one up in the morning and then saw that

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<v S4>the tomb was open but ran back, you know, and

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<v S4>then came back with the women. We don't know for sure,

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<v S4>but I envisioned from what I studied that she made

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<v S4>three trips before Jesus said her name, and she knew

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<v S4>he was alive.

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<v S1>All right. I want to go to, uh, Mary Magdalene,

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<v S1>sort of the before Jesus model here for a minute

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<v S1>if she were alive today. This is the before Jesus,

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<v S1>Mary Magdalene. How would she dress? Where would she live?

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<v S1>What would somebody passing her on the street notice most

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<v S1>about Mary Magdalene?

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<v S4>I think she would have looked pretty ragged. I doubt

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<v S4>she was homeless because she had wealth, but she could

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<v S4>have been driven to the wilderness like the other demon

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<v S4>possessed people were. She may not have wanted to eat.

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<v S4>She could have lost a lot of weight. Her clothes

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<v S4>could have been in tatters. She could have been dirty

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<v S4>from not taking good care of herself. Because demons lead

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<v S4>you to do things according to scripture. Like cut yourself

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<v S4>trying to kill yourself, um, drive you to like what?

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<v S4>The wilderness areas be too strong to be controlled. People

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<v S4>may have feared her, and she may have kind of

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<v S4>just gone off to be alone, more than they would

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<v S4>have seen her very often. I wouldn't say she'd be

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<v S4>like the person living in a homeless encampment, but she

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<v S4>might be the homeless person living off all by herself

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<v S4>back in that day and coming and going. Maybe, you know,

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<v S4>I don't know. But that was how I see it now.

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<v S1>Try to imagine that moment, and I'm sure you did

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<v S1>in writing the book. What was it like for Mary

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<v S1>to discover that Christ was interested in her? Exclusively for

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<v S1>her benefit? For her healing? What was that moment like?

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<v S4>Well, can you just imagine him calling your name? I

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<v S4>get goosebumps when I think of that. Just hearing him

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<v S4>say Mary. And I know that may not mean much

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<v S4>to some people, but it's like someone finally knew her.

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<v S4>It's like the minute he touched her physically or just

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<v S4>with his words. We aren't sure how he healed or

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<v S4>it doesn't say, but that's transforming. To hear him actually

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<v S4>call you by name, you are mine. I know The

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<v S4>chosen depicts that moment and they used that verse. Um.

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<v S4>I have called you by name. You are mine. And

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<v S4>I think that it applies to anyone who's healed and

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<v S4>delivered by the Lord. And in her case, I think

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<v S4>it was very true. I didn't use it the same

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<v S4>way they did, but I think that she would have

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<v S4>just been transformed in an instant.

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<v S1>Jill Eileen Smith is the best selling and award winning

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<v S1>author of the biblical fiction series The Wives of King David,

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<v S1>wives of the Patriarchs and Daughters of the Promised Land,

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<v S1>along with many others. She joins us today on The

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<v S1>Land and the book we're talking about, Dawn of Grace.

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<v S1>Her newest release, looking at Mary Magdalene's story. What do

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<v S1>you think was the turning point for Mary? I mean,

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<v S1>she had lived life her own way for so long. Uh,

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<v S1>it was nice to hear her name called out by Jesus.

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<v S1>But why should she trust this carpenter from Nazareth named Jesus?

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<v S4>Well, if she knew the minute he touched her or

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<v S4>called her or told the demons to leave. However, he

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<v S4>did it when she would know they were gone. And

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<v S4>I mean, if you're healed so instantly, I think there'd

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<v S4>be a really strong trust factor after that and wanting

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<v S4>to be with him. I can't imagine that she wouldn't.

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<v S4>I know fear and doubt will still come into any

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<v S4>of our lives when God may answer a prayer or

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<v S4>heal us, or just at our salvation, depending on our age,

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<v S4>it might be still difficult. We're still human. We're going

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<v S4>to doubt, we're going to struggle. And I think she did.

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<v S4>But I also think that especially once he resurrected, then

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<v S4>she could have the Holy Spirit's power to truly be

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<v S4>stronger in her faith. But, you know, she would have

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<v S4>had to learn it as she went along after being healed.

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<v S1>You know, demon possession is no lightweight condition. And it

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<v S1>seems to me that if there was hope for Mary Magdalene,

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<v S1>then that says volumes about messed up people around the world.

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<v S1>Your thoughts?

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<v S4>Yeah, absolutely. In doing the research for that, it was

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<v S4>tough because I do know people that are mentally ill,

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<v S4>but I've never met a demon possessed person. So I

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<v S4>went to, um, fellow author Bill Myers, who wrote a

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<v S4>book about demon possession, because he had experience with that.

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<v S4>I can't remember the title right now, but it's in

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<v S4>my book. I acknowledge him. But anyway, that book was

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<v S4>very eye opening. And then I watched a movie, nefarious,

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<v S4>which was also very eye opening. It was all about

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<v S4>demon possession, and it was like, wow. So I tried

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<v S4>to be as, um, like take from those things of

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<v S4>people who, you know, had more firsthand experience and apply

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<v S4>it to the story. But like I said, I have

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<v S4>no doubt there is a lot of it still going around.

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<v S4>The unclean spirits and the all the anime. I don't

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<v S4>even like to call his name, but, um, he's doing

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<v S4>his level best to destroy every human being, whether you're

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<v S4>a believer or not. But especially he's going after believers

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<v S4>and the Jewish nation. And you know he won't stop

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<v S4>until God stops him. And if he can get Ahold

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<v S4>of people and make them tools of his use, he will.

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<v S4>I mean, it's kind of scary, you know? But we

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<v S4>don't have to be afraid as believers.

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<v S1>That's right.

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<v S4>Greater is he who is in us, right? Than he

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<v S4>who's in the world.

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<v S1>Yeah. Hey, if you were to bring Mary Magdalene to

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<v S1>church services this Sunday, and they opened up the microphone

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<v S1>to anybody in the congregation with a testimony to share,

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<v S1>what one facet of her story do you think Mary

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<v S1>might choose to talk about?

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<v S4>I think she would tell the world I've seen the Lord,

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<v S4>because that was her absolute epiphany when he resurrected and

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<v S4>she thought he was the gardener, and he called her

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<v S4>name again, maybe for the first time, but I doubt it,

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<v S4>you know. But he called her name for the first

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<v S4>time of resurrection. She was the first person to see

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<v S4>him alive. I mean, she ran back to the disciples

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<v S4>and said, I've seen the Lord. And, I mean, I

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<v S4>don't think she ever stopped saying that because I think

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<v S4>it was like, wow. And you look at Scripture and go,

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<v S4>Jesus told the woman at the, well, I'm the Messiah.

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<v S4>The first person was a woman, the first person to

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<v S4>see him alive after he rose was a woman, and

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<v S4>he elevated women in such a wonderful way that we

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<v S4>still don't see in the world. But Jesus did. He

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<v S4>considers us all equal in Christ, and it's like, wow,

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<v S4>I don't think she would have gotten over that. She

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<v S4>probably danced or hopped or skipped or ran all the

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<v S4>way there, you know, it's like, wow. She wanted to

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<v S4>cling to him and he said, don't do that. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v S4>I think that would be her testimony.

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<v S1>I like that, danced, hopped, skipped. She probably did all

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<v S1>of them.

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<v S5>She probably did, yeah.

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<v S1>And that's a great place to pause this conversation while

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<v S1>you think about exploring further. The book is Dawn of Grace,

0:25:41.230 --> 0:25:44.070
<v S1>Mary Magdalene's story. You'll get to know her better as

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<v S1>you pick it up, and we'll link you to that

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<v S1>book and to Jill Eileen Smith's website when you visit ours.

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<v S1>The land and the book.org. Looking forward to more of

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<v S1>your Bible questions next here on the land and the book.

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<v S1>It's great to connect with you today on the land

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<v S1>and the book. Segment three I'm John Yeager, always glad

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<v S1>to be connected in the studio with Doctor Gerald Peterman

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<v S1>of Moody Bible Institute faculty. I say that so often

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<v S1>because to me, it's important, you know that.

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<v S6>Is it really true?

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<v S1>It's really true and it's really important. People need to

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<v S1>know that there isn't some guy just sitting here winging this.

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<v S1>This is somebody that our students get to benefit from

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<v S1>day in and day out, somebody that I enjoy chatting with,

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<v S1>but somebody, most importantly who knows and loves the word.

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<v S1>So thank you for doing this.

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<v S6>Well, I get to enjoy being with the students every day.

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<v S6>So that's that's really fun.

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<v S1>All right. And you always welcome those questions at The

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<v S1>Land and the book at Moody. Again email us at

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<v S1>the land and the book at Moody. Well, before we

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<v S1>get to our questions, let's think about the fact that

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<v S1>Passover is upon us. And and one of the traditional

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<v S1>Passover questions is what makes this night different from all others?

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<v S1>And of course, Passover is an important biblical holiday with

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<v S1>great meaning for Jewish people and believers in Jesus. But

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<v S1>in Messiah Dot. And with that, let's get right into

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<v S1>our first question of the day, this one from Ben.

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<v S1>He says, I hope it doesn't sound heretical, but I

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<v S1>have to ask Jesus, our Lord is 100% man and 100% God.

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<v S1>Now how can he be in everyone's heart at the

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<v S1>same time if he's fully man? My wife says that

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<v S1>when Jesus was raised back to heaven, he no longer

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<v S1>was a man, just God. That I don't believe. I

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<v S1>wanted to discuss it with her, but couldn't think of

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<v S1>any scripture to stand on. Any thoughts?

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<v S6>Well, Ben, thanks so much for the question. First, our

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<v S6>Lord can be in our heart because he is God,

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<v S6>and so he's omnipresent. But it's even better than that

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<v S6>because of his grace and his a saving power. He

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<v S6>is especially with us. This goes beyond mere omnipresence to

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<v S6>what I'm going to call special presence, just as God

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<v S6>has always been omnipresent. But in your Old Testament, you know,

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<v S6>he was especially present in the tabernacle in the holy place. See,

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<v S6>especially Leviticus 16. So now he is specially present with us. Now, second,

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<v S6>about our Lord's body. We can see from acts chapter

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<v S6>one that Jesus is talking to the 11, and he

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<v S6>promises the Holy Spirit is going to come. And then

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<v S6>in acts one nine we read this. And after he

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<v S6>said this, he was taken up. And as they were watching,

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<v S6>the cloud took him out of their sight. And while

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<v S6>he was going, they were gazing into heaven, and suddenly

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<v S6>two men in white clothes stood by them. They said,

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<v S6>Men of Galilee, why do you stand here looking into heaven?

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<v S6>This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven,

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<v S6>will come in the same way that you've seen him

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<v S6>going into heaven. So when our Lord returns, we'll see

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<v S6>his body. Matthew 2430 says, all the eyes of the

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<v S6>world will see the Son of Man coming on the

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<v S6>clouds of heaven. So I believe in an eternally embodied

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<v S6>Jesus Christ our Lord.

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<v S1>All right. Since you've gone toward the future for that question,

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<v S1>let me let me keep us there. Revelation 21 verse

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<v S1>four promises God shall wipe every tear from their eyes.

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<v S1>Two questions arise here. First, what is the likely source

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<v S1>of the crying? And second, is this wiping away a

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<v S1>one time thing? Or will we have regular occasion to

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<v S1>cry in heaven?

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<v S6>Oh wow that's wonderful. I really enjoyed this question. Let

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<v S6>me go to number two. I don't think there's going

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<v S6>to be any crying in heaven. I don't think there's

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<v S6>going to be any sadness, any mourning, any pain, any death.

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<v S6>These are the things we cry about. No, there will

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<v S6>be no more tears. But number one, this life often

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<v S6>has many tears. Joys, yes, but this life often has

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<v S6>many tears. And so this is a promise of the

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<v S6>blessing the Lord will give us, we will be personally comforted.

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<v S6>He will wipe every tear from our eyes.

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<v S1>Okay, so you're saying this is heaven itself, as opposed

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<v S1>to now that we're here and here we are crying

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<v S1>in heaven, and he'll come along and use his sleeve

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<v S1>and wipe away our tears. No. The gift of heaven

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<v S1>is the wiping away of tears.

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<v S7>The gift of heaven.

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<v S6>Is to have all our griefs wiped away by him. Yeah.

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<v S1>All right. We're going to back up just a bit

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<v S1>before being in heaven to the rapture with this next question.

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<v S1>A listener wants to know why wouldn't the rapture, the

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<v S1>sudden disappearance of millions of Christians, be sufficient to create

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<v S1>a global revival, or at least a large scale sense

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<v S1>of humility? As in, boy, those people we thought were

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<v S1>so nutty, they're actually right. There must be this God

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<v S1>they speak of. Why wouldn't the world in large numbers

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<v S1>turn to that reality?

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<v S6>Well, that is a great question. I really see where

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<v S6>this is coming from. The answer is because human hearts

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<v S6>can be very hard. Let me give you another example

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<v S6>from the Old Testament. In the Old Testament period, of course,

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<v S6>God brought his people Israel out of Egypt. It was miraculous.

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<v S6>It was it was stunning. And Rahab and her family

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<v S6>paid attention to it, and they were touched by it.

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<v S6>But the rest of the Canaanites were not. So here,

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<v S6>here what we have, we have God doing a miracle

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<v S6>that's talked about all over that part of the world.

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<v S6>And most of the people don't care. That seems to

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<v S6>me to be very similar to what you're talking about.

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<v S1>Yeah. And you think of the presence of Jesus himself

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<v S1>on this earth, right? How many saw these miracles and said, nah,

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<v S1>I don't think so.

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<v S6>John, that's a really good example. Sadly, what we see

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<v S6>sometimes is in the Gospels anyway. We see scribes, Pharisees

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<v S6>who say a miracle just happened. What are we going

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<v S6>to do about this? Because we can't stand it. Let's

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<v S6>kill him.

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<v S1>Right?

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<v S6>Right. This is not what you expect to happen as

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<v S6>a result of a miracle.

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<v S1>No. You're listening to the land and the book. Doctor

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<v S1>Gerald Peterman is answering listener questions today. If yours isn't

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<v S1>among them, could it be you haven't asked it yet?

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<v S1>Why not do that when you email us at The

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<v S1>Land and the book at Moody's, the land and the

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<v S1>book at Moody's. We'll keep going on future things with

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<v S1>this next listener question. This person says it feels like

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<v S1>there's a growing movement in evangelical circles today to deny

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<v S1>that those who end up in hell suffer. They're fully

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<v S1>conscious forever and ever. What's driving this trend and how

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<v S1>should we respond?

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<v S6>Well, it's hard to know exactly what's driving the trend,

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<v S6>but this strikes many people as vicious. How could a

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<v S6>God condemn someone to eternal punishment? It strikes many people

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<v S6>as vicious. They're not going to accept it because in

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<v S6>their view, God could never do such a thing. Well, okay,

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<v S6>I appreciate that. I think I understand where they're coming from.

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<v S6>Let's think of it from a different perspective. How bad

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<v S6>is sin? How bad is it to reject God when

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<v S6>there's so many evidences of him around the planet, and

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<v S6>there's so much evidence of the goodness of God in

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<v S6>the gospel. How bad is sin? Sin is as vicious

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<v S6>as hell is described as the punishment that corresponds to it.

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<v S6>So I understand where this question is coming from, but

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<v S6>I think it underestimates the viciousness of sin.

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<v S1>Yeah. Might just be that we have devalued or taken

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<v S1>the claws out of sin.

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<v S7>Yes.

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<v S6>I think you're.

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<v S7>Right.

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<v S1>He poisoned it as if such were possible.

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<v S7>Mhm.

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<v S1>Another question. Do you believe we are moving toward the

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<v S1>last times, the end times? And if so, in what

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<v S1>ways do you see the church today falling away from

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<v S1>the biblical faith as we're told it's going to do.

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<v S1>What are among your greatest concerns.

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<v S7>Mhm.

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<v S6>Well I think I hear 3 or 4 questions in there.

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<v S7>Go for all of them. Yes.

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<v S1>We got.

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<v S7>Time.

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<v S6>Um I think we're moving close, but I don't want

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<v S6>to be a prophet of doom, nor do I want

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<v S6>to fix a date. But I think we're getting close

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<v S6>because Jesus talks about the gospel being preached to all

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<v S6>nations before he arrives. And there is a massive push

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<v S6>going on right now. That where many people are being

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<v S6>evangelized for the first time and people are being reached

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<v S6>in unreached countries around the world. So we're seeing thousands

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<v S6>upon thousands upon millions of people come to know Christ,

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<v S6>to the number we've never seen before. I think this

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<v S6>is an indication we're moving toward the day. Now, John,

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<v S6>I forgot the second part of your.

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<v S1>Question would be what what issues do you see theologically

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<v S1>that maybe we're falling away from or twisting or deliberately, uh,

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<v S1>not paying attention.

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<v S6>To? Right, right. Uh, great. Thanks for reminding me of that.

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<v S6>I don't want to label anyone or any person or

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<v S6>any church, but, uh, there are many churches these days.

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<v S6>There are many churches these days that go by the

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<v S6>name of church who are losing their members because the

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<v S6>churches are abandoning what's in Scripture. And this has been

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<v S6>this has been going on for years. But I think

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<v S6>that's also accelerated the abandonment of classic Christianity, of biblical Christianity,

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<v S6>I think is at a height at this point. But

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<v S6>you'd have to be paying attention to see that. Yeah.

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<v S6>Many churches are closing down because they have stopped preaching

0:35:19.430 --> 0:35:22.190
<v S6>the gospel, and no one wants to come because there's

0:35:22.190 --> 0:35:25.630
<v S6>no there's no hope, there's no life, there's no vitality.

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<v S1>Yeah. We're talking with Doctor Gerald Peterman on this question

0:35:28.469 --> 0:35:30.549
<v S1>and answer segment here on the land and the book.

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<v S1>And again your question is welcome anytime when you email

0:35:33.630 --> 0:35:37.190
<v S1>us at the Land and the book at Moody's, you

0:35:37.190 --> 0:35:39.430
<v S1>don't just teach the Bible. You're a student of the Bible.

0:35:39.430 --> 0:35:42.510
<v S1>So for the listener who's asking what tools do you like,

0:35:42.510 --> 0:35:45.390
<v S1>what's on your shelf, what's on your computer, your phone,

0:35:45.510 --> 0:35:48.430
<v S1>any apps or tools or books? I think for my

0:35:48.430 --> 0:35:51.510
<v S1>own life, what has been very instrumental is Howard Hendricks

0:35:51.510 --> 0:35:54.030
<v S1>and his son, Bill. They wrote the book living by

0:35:54.030 --> 0:35:57.510
<v S1>the book. Tremendous tool for helping you understand and study

0:35:57.510 --> 0:35:59.630
<v S1>the scriptures. What thoughts come to your mind?

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<v S6>Well, um. Am I allowed to say this? Is this advertising?

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<v S6>I go I go to the Moody Bible Commentary quite often, right?

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<v S6>Because I'm reading scripture, I'm reading the Old Testament every year,

0:36:10.550 --> 0:36:13.189
<v S6>reading the New Testament every year. And sometimes I think, huh,

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<v S6>What's going on with that? So for a quick straight

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<v S6>to the point answer, I opened the Moody Bible Commentary.

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<v S6>So while there are lots of other books, the number

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<v S6>one book for me is the Moody Bible Commentary.

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<v S1>All right, great tip. And that's from Moody Publishers. A

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<v S1>link to Moody Publishers is at our website. The land

0:36:28.820 --> 0:36:32.460
<v S1>and the bookstores. And again, I'll mention it one more time.

0:36:32.500 --> 0:36:34.339
<v S1>Our email address. If you'd like to connect and get

0:36:34.340 --> 0:36:36.779
<v S1>your question on board with us. It's easy to do

0:36:36.780 --> 0:36:40.259
<v S1>so when you email the land and the book at Moody's.

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<v S1>I'm looking forward to Charlie Dyer's devotional next on the

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<v S1>land and the book. If you're new to the land

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<v S1>in the book, we've got one last segment for you.

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<v S1>It's our devotional segment. Charlie, what is the the goal here?

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<v S1>Your philosophy in what you put together for us week

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<v S1>after week?

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<v S2>Well, I want to try and introduce people to some

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<v S2>spot in the land and something that connects to the

0:37:13.370 --> 0:37:15.850
<v S2>Bible there. And again, the land and the book. It's

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<v S2>nice to put them together, but in a way that

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<v S2>provides something we can listen to and take home for

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<v S2>the week that draws us closer to God.

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<v S1>All right. And this week is no exception. You're continuing

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<v S1>a series titled What.

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<v S2>The 11 Inscriptions to the Bible. And today we're going

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<v S2>to be looking at the Cyrus Cylinder and Isaiah 44.

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<v S1>First, though, let's listen to this Holy Land experience. That's

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<v S1>what we call it. It's somebody's testimony, having come back

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<v S1>from the Holy Land, and they're kind of fired up

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<v S1>with an impression that God has laid on their heart.

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<v S1>Listen to this.

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<v S8>Hi, my name is John Mitchell. We, uh, toured the

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<v S8>Sea of Galilee and went down to the Dead Sea

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<v S8>and went to Jerusalem. And it just opened up the

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<v S8>Bible to me more than before. And I encourage everyone

0:38:05.930 --> 0:38:09.970
<v S8>to come and experience it. It's it's a wonderful experience

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<v S8>and you'll learn so much that you thought you maybe knew,

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<v S8>but you'll know so much more about it once you

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<v S8>be here.

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<v S9>Hi, my name is Rick Warren and this is my

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<v S9>second time here with Moody Bible Institute to the Holy Land.

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<v S9>And the thing that really hit me this time was

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<v S9>not the different places that we went to. Although they're fabulous.

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<v S9>The different experiences. But just as we've been talking so

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<v S9>much this week about the relationship between Palestine and Israel

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<v S9>and how truly complex it really is. And there are

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<v S9>no simple solutions.

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<v S1>All right, Charlie, I'm looking forward to your devotional today.

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<v S1>I guess we're based in Isaiah 44.

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<v S2>That's right John. We've reached the eighth in my series

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<v S2>of 11 inscriptions to the Bible, and I want to

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<v S2>start today's devotional with a rallying cry heard several times

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<v S2>in our nation's history. The British are coming. The British

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<v S2>are coming. Now, if you're a history buff, you might

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.880
<v S2>have in mind the Revolutionary War and Paul Revere's midnight

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.719
<v S2>ride to Lexington. But if you were a teenager in

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<v S2>the 60s. The same message brings to mind the arrival

0:39:11.950 --> 0:39:14.870
<v S2>of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones and Herman's Hermits,

0:39:14.870 --> 0:39:17.190
<v S2>the Dave Clark Five and all those other British rock

0:39:17.190 --> 0:39:20.509
<v S2>bands that took America by storm. But if you're a

0:39:20.510 --> 0:39:23.870
<v S2>lover of ancient history and antiquities, you might just be

0:39:23.870 --> 0:39:27.669
<v S2>thinking back to a more recent invasion. The British Museum's

0:39:27.710 --> 0:39:31.109
<v S2>Cyrus Cylinder Road show that came to five museums in

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<v S2>the summer of 2013. This historical treasure went on display

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<v S2>in Washington, D.C., Houston, New York City, San Francisco, and

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<v S2>Los Angeles. It was the first time the Cyrus Cylinder

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<v S2>had ever been in the United States. But you ask,

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<v S2>what's the Cyrus Cylinder and why is it so special?

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<v S2>The Cyrus Cylinder is our inscription of the day. It's

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<v S2>an ancient clay cylinder discovered in Babylon 145 years ago,

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<v S2>last month that announced Cyrus key political and religious goals.

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<v S2>It presented Cyrus as the pious leader sent by the

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<v S2>gods of Babylon to replace the impious Babylonian king Nabonidus.

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<v S2>It also announced his policy to repatriate those deported to

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<v S2>Babylon and to rebuild the sanctuaries that had been destroyed.

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<v S2>It was Cyrus's attempt to undo Babylonian policies and to

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<v S2>consolidate Persian rule by presenting him as a kinder and

0:40:26.260 --> 0:40:30.340
<v S2>gentler king. But what does this 2500 year old artifact

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<v S2>in the British Museum have to do with the Bible?

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<v S2>It actually connects two ways. The Book of Ezra begins

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<v S2>with a proclamation from King Cyrus that reads in part,

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<v S2>whoever there is among you of all his people, may

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<v S2>his God be with him. Let him go up to Jerusalem,

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<v S2>which is in Judah, and rebuild the house of the Lord,

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<v S2>the God of Israel. This proclamation to the Jewish people

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<v S2>parallels the one in the Cyrus Cylinder, written to the

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<v S2>people of Mesopotamia. Cyrus also allowed the Jews to go

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<v S2>home and rebuild their temple. But I see another connection

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<v S2>between the Bible and the Cyrus Cylinder. That's even more dramatic.

0:41:07.290 --> 0:41:11.170
<v S2>I say that because this connection took place over 150

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<v S2>years before Cyrus ever arrived on the scene. In Jeremiah 39,

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<v S2>the prophet concluded the first half of his book by

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<v S2>announcing God's final judgment on the nation of Judah. Behold,

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<v S2>the days are coming when all that's in your house

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<v S2>and all that your fathers have laid up in store

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<v S2>to this day shall be carried to Babylon. Nothing shall

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<v S2>be left. Isaiah announced that Judah would be going into

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<v S2>captivity in Babylon. He was so certain about this that

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<v S2>beginning in chapter 40, he begins writing to the people

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<v S2>who were going into captivity, people who hadn't yet even

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<v S2>been born at the time, he wrote. Isaiah offers comfort

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<v S2>and hope to those who would someday be carried off

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<v S2>into exile. God will bring you back to the land.

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<v S2>But how could they be sure? How could they know

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<v S2>this message was from God and not just wishful thinking

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<v S2>on the part of the prophet. God gave Isaiah a

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<v S2>very dramatic way to verify this prediction. Listen to God's

0:42:04.489 --> 0:42:07.600
<v S2>promise made a century and a half before the rise

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<v S2>of Cyrus. It is I who says of Cyrus, he's

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<v S2>my shepherd, and he will perform all my desire. And

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<v S2>he declares to Jerusalem, she will be rebuilt. And of

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<v S2>the temple your foundation will be laid. Thus says the

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<v S2>Lord to Cyrus his anointed, whom I have taken by

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<v S2>the right hand to subdue nations before him. For the

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<v S2>sake of Jacob my servant, and Israel my chosen one,

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<v S2>I have also called you by your name. I have

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<v S2>given you a title of honor, though you have not

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<v S2>known me. I am the Lord. There is no other

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<v S2>besides me. There is no God. God identified Cyrus by

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<v S2>name and said he would be victorious, and announced he

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<v S2>would be the one who would allow Israel to return

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<v S2>home and rebuild the temple. Now, how's that for getting specific?

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<v S2>In fact, some think it's too specific. No one could

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<v S2>predict something that accurately that far in advance. No one,

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<v S2>that is, except God. The critics who try to say

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<v S2>this was written after the time of Cyrus, not before.

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<v S2>Ignore two key truths. First, they missed the fact that

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<v S2>all the way through this section of Isaiah. God does

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<v S2>claim to be predicting the future. In chapter 41, God

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<v S2>challenges all the other so-called gods to announce to us

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<v S2>what's coming. Declare the things that are going to come afterward,

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<v S2>that we may know that you are gods. In chapter 42,

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<v S2>God says, I'm the Lord, that is my name. I

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<v S2>will not give my glory to another, nor my praise

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<v S2>to idols. Behold, the former things have come to pass.

0:43:35.660 --> 0:43:39.020
<v S2>Now I declare new things. Before they spring forth, I

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<v S2>proclaim them to you. In chapter 44, God issues this challenge.

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<v S2>Who is like me? Let him proclaim and declare it.

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<v S2>Let him declare the things that are coming and the

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<v S2>events that are going to take place. I could go on,

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<v S2>but you get the picture. God didn't just throw out

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<v S2>Cyrus's name in some haphazard fashion. It was a deliberate

0:43:58.860 --> 0:44:02.380
<v S2>prediction made to a specific group. It made no sense

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<v S2>to the people in Isaiah's day, but it made perfect

0:44:05.290 --> 0:44:08.610
<v S2>sense to those in captivity in Babylon, and it reminded

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<v S2>them that God was in charge and that they could

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<v S2>trust him. I said there were two reasons we knew

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<v S2>this was a prediction written in advance. The first is

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<v S2>the fact that God himself claims to be predicting the

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<v S2>future when he named Cyrus. And the second reason was

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<v S2>uncovered in Qumran. Those who said this couldn't be a

0:44:26.290 --> 0:44:29.850
<v S2>real prediction of Cyrus constructed an elaborate theory for how

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<v S2>the Book of Isaiah was written. The first 39 chapters

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<v S2>in deed might date back to the time of Isaiah,

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<v S2>they argued, but the last half of the book had

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<v S2>to be written hundreds of years later, after the rise

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<v S2>of Cyrus and the fall of the Babylonian Empire. Then, somehow,

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<v S2>over the centuries, these two separate books got joined together

0:44:48.090 --> 0:44:50.089
<v S2>and people forgot that they were the works of two

0:44:50.090 --> 0:44:54.130
<v S2>different writers. Now, that may sound plausible, at least until

0:44:54.130 --> 0:44:57.569
<v S2>the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered, including a complete scroll

0:44:57.570 --> 0:45:00.089
<v S2>of the Book of Isaiah. The scroll dates to the

0:45:00.090 --> 0:45:04.000
<v S2>second century BC. Chapter 39 ends on the next to

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.720
<v S2>the last line of a column. This was a perfect

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.120
<v S2>opportunity for the scribes to show a break in the

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:12.239
<v S2>book by starting chapter 40 on a new column. But

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<v S2>chapter 40 begins on the very next line without any break.

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<v S2>This was a single book written by the prophet Isaiah,

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<v S2>with a dramatic prediction of the rise of a king

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.920
<v S2>named Cyrus, who would allow the Jews to return home

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:29.160
<v S2>and rebuild the temple. And that's just what happened. The

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:32.759
<v S2>Cyrus Cylinder is impressive, but it pales in comparison to

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:36.720
<v S2>the Bible. Israel knew about Cyrus and his proclamation before

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.959
<v S2>Cyrus was even born, because the God of the universe,

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<v S2>the only true God, had told them all about him.

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<v S2>So what difference does all this make in your life today?

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<v S2>I think it comes down to this God could identify

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:53.160
<v S2>Cyrus by name because God was in control of history.

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.000
<v S2>And God has also announced dramatic events that will take

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.000
<v S2>place on this planet leading up to the return of

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.830
<v S2>his son. We don't need to live in fear or

0:46:01.830 --> 0:46:05.629
<v S2>uncertainty about what tomorrow holds because God is in control.

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<v S2>After predicting the coming of Cyrus, God made a statement

0:46:09.110 --> 0:46:13.069
<v S2>that can help us keep our bearings in otherwise uncertain times.

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<v S2>I made known the end from the beginning. From ancient

0:46:16.070 --> 0:46:19.350
<v S2>times what is yet to come. I say my purpose

0:46:19.350 --> 0:46:22.230
<v S2>will stand. And I will do all that I please.

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<v S2>The lesson for us is simple. Breathe easy. God is

0:46:26.150 --> 0:46:28.630
<v S2>in control. And if you'd like to see a photo

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<v S2>of the Cyrus Cylinder on display in the British Museum,

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<v S2>be sure to head over to our land in the

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<v S2>book Facebook page where I've posted a picture of it

0:46:35.989 --> 0:46:36.750
<v S2>that I took.

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<v S1>And it's well worth the visit. Check out that Facebook page,

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<v S1>I urge you. And I want to say thank you

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<v S1>to our host, Charlie Dyer. Thanks to this station for

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<v S1>making room for the land. In the book, I'm John

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<v S1>Geiger for our producer, Dan Anderson. Hope you have a

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<v S1>great day. The land and the book is a production

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<v S1>of Moody Radio, a ministry of Moody Bible Institute.