1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,680 S1: For the last 20 years, he's been singing his songs, 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,479 S1: curating a playlist of rap and hip hop that has 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,120 S1: touched millions of hearts and lives with gospel truth. And today, 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,639 S1: Reach Records artists. Trip Lee is going to unveil something new. 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,440 S1: Is it a new direction for him? Well, yeah, you 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,320 S1: could say that. But as I've listened to the Brag 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,160 S1: Worship EP For Your Glory, I think it's a slightly 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,760 S1: different form, but it comes from the same heart of 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,360 S1: wanting to draw people into an experience, to bring their 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,440 S1: lives into a posture of worship, rather than just sit 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,240 S1: on the sidelines and watch. To be a spectator, a fan, 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,760 S1: you're going to find out more about what that means 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,000 S1: straight ahead on Chris Fabry Live. Welcome to a conversation 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,120 S1: from the heart to the heart for the heart here 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,920 S1: on Presidents Day. Since we're observing that holiday, we will 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,360 S1: not be with you live today. But let me thank 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,459 S1: our team. Ryan McConaughey doing all things technical. Trish is 18 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:05,660 S1: our producer. Lisa's helping out. Josh has the day off 19 00:01:05,660 --> 00:01:09,220 S1: because of programs recorded today. We caught up with trip 20 00:01:09,260 --> 00:01:11,980 S1: Lee at the end of January and sat down with him. 21 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:15,179 S1: And if you enjoy this conversation or any of the 22 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:19,059 S1: conversations we have at the back fence, would you consider 23 00:01:19,060 --> 00:01:22,140 S1: becoming a back fence partner? Give a gift of any 24 00:01:22,180 --> 00:01:25,260 S1: size each month and you will get my back fence 25 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:29,420 S1: post every Thursday its video we send out for your encouragement. 26 00:01:29,540 --> 00:01:32,060 S1: You'll be able to receive our monthly thank you that 27 00:01:32,060 --> 00:01:35,259 S1: I choose for listeners and a whole lot more. Go 28 00:01:35,260 --> 00:01:38,300 S1: to Chris org. Scroll down. You'll see how you can 29 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:40,979 S1: become a partner today. Or you can give a one 30 00:01:41,020 --> 00:01:45,660 S1: time gift right there. Go to Chris. Org. It really 31 00:01:45,660 --> 00:01:49,020 S1: helps us continue these discussions from the heart. So if 32 00:01:49,020 --> 00:01:58,670 S1: you want to encourage us call 866958669532279 or go to 33 00:01:58,710 --> 00:02:03,870 S1: Chris and thanks for your support of the radio backyard fence. 34 00:02:04,510 --> 00:02:07,710 S1: Tripoli is a Dove Award and Stellar Award winning artist 35 00:02:07,710 --> 00:02:11,870 S1: whose career has shaped Christian hip hop for nearly two decades. 36 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:15,390 S1: After many assumed he'd stepped away from music, he reignited 37 00:02:15,389 --> 00:02:19,709 S1: his momentum in 2023 with a monthly series of singles, 38 00:02:19,710 --> 00:02:23,590 S1: leading to his surprise album, The Epilogue. Now he's expanding 39 00:02:23,590 --> 00:02:27,790 S1: his creative reach with Bragg Worship and the debut of 40 00:02:27,790 --> 00:02:31,030 S1: a new worship EP, For Your Glory. We have It 41 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:34,590 S1: linked at the website. Chris Fabry, Livorno. He joins us 42 00:02:34,590 --> 00:02:38,030 S1: from Atlanta. Tripoli. Welcome back. How you doing? 43 00:02:38,310 --> 00:02:40,310 S2: I'm doing good. Thank you so much for having me. 44 00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:44,070 S1: I remember back when you were just a just a little, 45 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:47,750 S1: little fella coming on this program. It's been a long 46 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:51,230 S1: time since that first book that I think that we 47 00:02:51,230 --> 00:02:52,070 S1: talked about. 48 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:56,430 S2: Yes. And, you know, hearing you say two decades, you know, 49 00:02:56,470 --> 00:02:58,770 S2: kind of, uh, you know, it kind of shook me 50 00:02:58,770 --> 00:03:00,690 S2: a little bit. I'm like, oh, man. Lots of time 51 00:03:00,690 --> 00:03:02,570 S2: has gone by, but I'm grateful. 52 00:03:03,370 --> 00:03:06,970 S1: Uh, bring me up to date. So you were pastoring, 53 00:03:06,970 --> 00:03:09,810 S1: and now you're not pastoring. You were in Texas and 54 00:03:09,810 --> 00:03:12,650 S1: then Atlanta and moved back. Give me up to date. 55 00:03:12,690 --> 00:03:14,530 S1: What's trip doing these days? 56 00:03:14,970 --> 00:03:18,210 S2: Yes. So, I mean, this particular project has been something 57 00:03:18,250 --> 00:03:19,930 S2: that's been on my heart for a really long time. 58 00:03:19,970 --> 00:03:23,489 S2: You know, even before my last few, uh, hip hop albums. 59 00:03:23,490 --> 00:03:27,010 S2: And I was pastoring in Dallas and, um, you know, 60 00:03:27,050 --> 00:03:29,370 S2: I have a, I have a health issue. I have 61 00:03:29,370 --> 00:03:31,690 S2: a chronic illness that I've had for a long time. 62 00:03:31,730 --> 00:03:34,250 S2: And one of the hard things is my energy is 63 00:03:34,250 --> 00:03:37,090 S2: so up and down. Um, and so that made me, 64 00:03:37,130 --> 00:03:38,850 S2: you know, I got to a place where it felt like, 65 00:03:38,850 --> 00:03:42,850 S2: I think, um, the flexibility that comes from being an 66 00:03:42,850 --> 00:03:45,770 S2: artist mainly is something that would be healthier for me 67 00:03:45,770 --> 00:03:47,850 S2: and for my family. And so that's why I'm not 68 00:03:47,850 --> 00:03:52,010 S2: pastoring anymore. But, you know, my passion for the church, 69 00:03:52,010 --> 00:03:53,850 S2: for what God is doing in this people hasn't changed 70 00:03:53,850 --> 00:03:56,310 S2: at all. And this worship album really grew out of, 71 00:03:56,350 --> 00:03:58,950 S2: you know, my time pastoring and just being a member 72 00:03:58,950 --> 00:04:01,630 S2: of local churches. And so I'm, I, you know, this 73 00:04:01,630 --> 00:04:04,870 S2: feels like I am still serving God's church with the 74 00:04:04,870 --> 00:04:06,270 S2: music I'm trying to put out. 75 00:04:06,310 --> 00:04:09,030 S1: Yeah, we're going to hear some of that today. But 76 00:04:09,070 --> 00:04:11,430 S1: let me go a little bit more into the personal. 77 00:04:11,550 --> 00:04:15,150 S1: So you, you and Jessica married in 2009. So that's 78 00:04:15,150 --> 00:04:19,550 S1: about what, 16? My math is off, but somewhere around 79 00:04:19,550 --> 00:04:20,630 S1: 16 years. 80 00:04:20,830 --> 00:04:23,350 S2: Yes. That is that's right, 16 years. I was still 81 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:25,750 S2: in college when me and my wife got married. 82 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:28,630 S1: Three children still. Is that right? 83 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:30,789 S2: Yes. Three children? Yes. 84 00:04:30,830 --> 00:04:34,230 S1: How have your children changed you? 85 00:04:34,870 --> 00:04:39,790 S2: Wow. Um. Man, my children have changed me. One. You know, 86 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:41,390 S2: sometimes I'll look in my life and I think, wait, 87 00:04:41,390 --> 00:04:43,550 S2: what was I doing with all of my time before 88 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:47,029 S2: I had all these kids? Um, before I had basketball 89 00:04:47,029 --> 00:04:49,190 S2: games to go to. And, you know, I think some 90 00:04:49,190 --> 00:04:51,270 S2: of the main ways that my kids have changed me 91 00:04:51,270 --> 00:04:54,770 S2: is it makes me a lot more aware of what 92 00:04:54,770 --> 00:04:57,890 S2: I'm doing, because I have one of the amazing things 93 00:04:57,890 --> 00:05:00,370 S2: about how God has created us is we learn from 94 00:05:00,370 --> 00:05:03,570 S2: mimicking other people and watching what they do. And there's 95 00:05:03,570 --> 00:05:05,610 S2: so many things that I see in my kids, whether 96 00:05:05,650 --> 00:05:07,450 S2: good or bad, that I'm like, oh, they got that 97 00:05:07,450 --> 00:05:09,570 S2: for me, or they got that for my wife. One 98 00:05:09,570 --> 00:05:11,330 S2: of the things that's done for me is this made 99 00:05:11,330 --> 00:05:15,050 S2: me really aware of the importance of every moment. Of course, 100 00:05:15,050 --> 00:05:17,370 S2: we know that we live every moment before God. We 101 00:05:17,370 --> 00:05:18,930 S2: have to give an account to God for all of 102 00:05:18,930 --> 00:05:21,930 S2: our words. One of the gifts of children is that 103 00:05:21,970 --> 00:05:24,450 S2: there is a little person who's soaking in so much. 104 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:27,930 S2: And so it's another motivation to, you know, be zealous 105 00:05:27,930 --> 00:05:30,490 S2: for good works in every little area of my life. 106 00:05:30,490 --> 00:05:32,650 S2: And it also, it is the most amazing thing that 107 00:05:32,650 --> 00:05:36,130 S2: I think I've ever seen, sincerely, is seeing my kids 108 00:05:36,330 --> 00:05:38,690 S2: grow and become people. Seeing them learn how to talk, 109 00:05:38,730 --> 00:05:41,970 S2: seeing their personalities bloom, um, seeing the things that they're 110 00:05:41,970 --> 00:05:45,810 S2: interested in, seeing their gifts, seeing just I think it 111 00:05:45,810 --> 00:05:48,690 S2: is literally the most amazing thing I've ever watched. And 112 00:05:48,690 --> 00:05:51,490 S2: so I feel really, really sincerely grateful to God for 113 00:05:51,490 --> 00:05:53,900 S2: allowing me to be a father for me. 114 00:05:54,260 --> 00:05:57,940 S1: When I look at kids, my own or others, it's 115 00:05:57,940 --> 00:06:01,020 S1: like the delight they can delight in. You know, they're 116 00:06:01,020 --> 00:06:04,859 S1: fully into whatever they're into, you know, playing in the 117 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:08,820 S1: in the mud or doing. They're all they're they're right there. And, 118 00:06:08,820 --> 00:06:11,339 S1: and I think life kind of beats that out of you. 119 00:06:11,380 --> 00:06:13,820 S1: You become an adult. This is the important thing I'm 120 00:06:13,820 --> 00:06:16,820 S1: doing over here. And it's like children have a delight. 121 00:06:16,820 --> 00:06:20,460 S1: And if we can capture that for ourselves and kind 122 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:22,900 S1: of get back to that, I think that's what Jesus 123 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:26,539 S1: was talking about, partly in the becoming as children. 124 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:29,539 S2: Yes, absolutely. And, you know, I think there are even 125 00:06:29,540 --> 00:06:32,580 S2: some ways, as parents, that we can look at the 126 00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:35,580 S2: stuff that our kids are doing or their neediness from 127 00:06:35,620 --> 00:06:37,860 S2: us and feel like, oh, well, let me you know, 128 00:06:37,900 --> 00:06:40,020 S2: it can be frustrating because it feels like it's getting 129 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:42,380 S2: in the way of your life. And something that God 130 00:06:42,380 --> 00:06:44,620 S2: is always reminding me is that whatever I'm doing with 131 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:47,300 S2: my kids, whether that is talking to them about the 132 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:50,260 S2: Bible or just playing with my five year old on 133 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:52,880 S2: the floor before dinner time, This is not something that's 134 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,839 S2: getting in the way of my life. This is my life. 135 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,760 S2: This is what God has called me to. This is 136 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,200 S2: an excellent use of my time. There's nothing better I 137 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,039 S2: could be doing with my time than shaping this little person, 138 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,239 S2: made in the image of God. More incredible than any 139 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,640 S2: song I've ever made, is that God allowed me to 140 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,320 S2: help make a person and shape them for the world. 141 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,960 S1: Isn't that great? I from the first time that we 142 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,760 S1: talked and I've heard your music, I've loved your heart. 143 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,800 S1: And when you mentioned just a minute ago the chronic illness, um, 144 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,360 S1: my guess is there's somebody listening today who's got a 145 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,160 S1: little closer to the radio as they're as they're listening 146 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,280 S1: to this and say, well, wait a minute. What what's 147 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:34,400 S1: going on? Because through through your songs, the illness causes 148 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,520 S1: you to see your dependence on him, uh, and can 149 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,840 S1: draw you closer, or it can push you away, and 150 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,400 S1: you blame God, right? 151 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,080 S2: Yes, absolutely. And I think some of it depends on 152 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,280 S2: how we see the illness. You know, for me, I 153 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,500 S2: think there are times I'm very tempted to see my 154 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:55,940 S2: illness as an obstacle to what God is doing in 155 00:07:55,940 --> 00:07:57,580 S2: my life. Like there are these things that I want 156 00:07:57,620 --> 00:07:59,700 S2: to do for, for the Lord, and this illness is 157 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:01,619 S2: keeping me from it. But the way that the Bible 158 00:08:01,660 --> 00:08:04,700 S2: talks about trials, you know, maybe in James one where 159 00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:07,580 S2: he says, you know, consider it pure joy when you 160 00:08:07,580 --> 00:08:10,260 S2: face trials of many kinds. And the reason is because 161 00:08:10,260 --> 00:08:12,620 S2: it's through that that God is maturing us, helping us 162 00:08:12,620 --> 00:08:16,060 S2: to develop perseverance and the character. So it's really helpful 163 00:08:16,060 --> 00:08:18,700 S2: to me to remember that my health challenges, as frustrating 164 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:20,900 S2: as they can be, and they are, and I'm not 165 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:25,300 S2: always enduring those challenges in ways that I'm excited about. 166 00:08:25,300 --> 00:08:28,260 S2: But that is the way that God is working in 167 00:08:28,260 --> 00:08:29,940 S2: my life. That's the way that God is turning me 168 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:31,300 S2: into the man that he wants it to be. That's 169 00:08:31,300 --> 00:08:32,900 S2: the way that God is going to use me in 170 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:36,140 S2: the world as he wishes. Um, and it's just an 171 00:08:36,140 --> 00:08:39,420 S2: amazing reminder of how strong God is, much stronger than 172 00:08:39,420 --> 00:08:41,060 S2: the things that make us feel weak. 173 00:08:41,500 --> 00:08:44,260 S1: Mm. Somebody needed to hear that today. Tripoli is joining 174 00:08:44,260 --> 00:08:48,579 S1: us at the radio Backyard fence, Bragg worship and the 175 00:08:48,580 --> 00:08:53,270 S1: debut of the new EP, For Your Glory is linked 176 00:08:53,270 --> 00:08:55,390 S1: at the website, and we're going to hear some of 177 00:08:55,429 --> 00:08:59,150 S1: that music throughout the broadcast today. Hope you will enjoy 178 00:08:59,150 --> 00:09:02,430 S1: that and stay with us for where that Bragg came from. 179 00:09:02,429 --> 00:09:04,349 S1: Straight ahead on Moody Radio. 180 00:09:06,030 --> 00:09:09,230 S3: Wake up. Wake up. 181 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:21,190 S4: If I fall. If I fall. Let it be in you. 182 00:09:22,750 --> 00:09:29,910 S4: Let it be in you. And if I hold. If 183 00:09:29,910 --> 00:09:36,429 S4: I hold. Let it be in you. Let it be 184 00:09:36,429 --> 00:09:37,150 S4: in you. 185 00:09:38,190 --> 00:09:41,150 S1: Tripoli is joining us today on Chris Fabry Live. Oh, 186 00:09:41,150 --> 00:09:43,990 S1: it's so exciting to have him back on the program 187 00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:46,710 S1: and to talk about his music, but this time not 188 00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:51,650 S1: his rap music, but a new worship project from Bragg Worship, 189 00:09:51,850 --> 00:09:53,610 S1: and we're going to find out where that came from. 190 00:09:53,650 --> 00:09:56,330 S1: If you go to Chris Fabriclive, you'll see the new 191 00:09:56,330 --> 00:10:00,130 S1: EP For Your Glory, and you're hearing music from that 192 00:10:00,330 --> 00:10:03,330 S1: throughout the program. Today our program is recorded. Don't Call 193 00:10:03,330 --> 00:10:10,410 S1: Us Today. This comes from Bragg, comes from Jeremiah chapter nine. Uh, 194 00:10:10,650 --> 00:10:13,250 S1: so where did this spark in your heart, this idea 195 00:10:13,250 --> 00:10:14,250 S1: of Bragg. 196 00:10:15,370 --> 00:10:18,330 S2: Sure. Well, there's been a, you know, a theme throughout 197 00:10:18,330 --> 00:10:21,930 S2: my music, um, for a long time. It's about bragging 198 00:10:21,929 --> 00:10:24,330 S2: on and boasting in the Lord. And, you know, I'm 199 00:10:24,330 --> 00:10:27,250 S2: a rapper. Hip hop is a very boastful art form. 200 00:10:27,290 --> 00:10:29,210 S2: You know, sometimes I say, if there was an Olympics 201 00:10:29,210 --> 00:10:31,730 S2: for bragging, rappers would win the gold medal every year. 202 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:35,690 S2: It is a very in-your-face, bragging art form. And so 203 00:10:35,690 --> 00:10:38,730 S2: I've always thought. But of course, if the universe revolves 204 00:10:38,730 --> 00:10:41,290 S2: around God and not me, then I want to boast 205 00:10:41,290 --> 00:10:45,929 S2: in him. And Jeremiah chapter nine verse 23 says, this 206 00:10:45,929 --> 00:10:48,710 S2: is what the Lord says. The wise person should not 207 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:51,189 S2: boast in his wisdom. The strong should not boast in 208 00:10:51,190 --> 00:10:53,870 S2: his strength, the wealthy should not boast in his wealth. 209 00:10:53,870 --> 00:10:55,950 S2: But the one who boasts should boast in this, that 210 00:10:55,950 --> 00:10:58,630 S2: he understands and knows me, that I am the Lord, 211 00:10:58,630 --> 00:11:02,110 S2: showing faithful love, justice, and righteousness on the earth. For 212 00:11:02,110 --> 00:11:06,150 S2: I delight in these things. Um, Scripture is really clear that, uh, 213 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:09,069 S2: we should boast in him. You know, Paul even says, 214 00:11:09,070 --> 00:11:11,350 S2: what do you have that wasn't given to you? So 215 00:11:11,350 --> 00:11:14,590 S2: why are you arrogant? As if it wasn't a gift? Um, 216 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:16,870 S2: and so, you know, that being a major theme of 217 00:11:16,870 --> 00:11:19,390 S2: my music, I thought, okay, well, with this album that's 218 00:11:19,429 --> 00:11:22,790 S2: meant for Christians to make much of God together, what 219 00:11:22,830 --> 00:11:25,150 S2: better way to sum that up than by bragging on him? 220 00:11:25,150 --> 00:11:28,190 S2: So that's why I called it brag worship. Um, and yeah, 221 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:30,309 S2: I that's my goal with the music. It would help 222 00:11:30,309 --> 00:11:32,070 S2: people to make much of Jesus together. 223 00:11:32,070 --> 00:11:34,829 S1: Mhm. Yeah. And that is, that is a theme that 224 00:11:34,830 --> 00:11:38,430 S1: has run through your life, your, your teaching as well 225 00:11:38,429 --> 00:11:41,110 S1: as the music. And as soon as I read that 226 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:44,670 S1: and started listening to the songs, the, the verses from 227 00:11:44,670 --> 00:11:48,770 S1: First Corinthians came back to me where Paul says, consider 228 00:11:48,770 --> 00:11:51,690 S1: your calling. Not many were wise from a human perspective, 229 00:11:51,690 --> 00:11:55,850 S1: not many powerful, not many of noble birth. Instead, God 230 00:11:55,850 --> 00:11:59,170 S1: has chosen what is foolish in the world to shame 231 00:11:59,170 --> 00:12:01,290 S1: the wise, and God has chosen what is weak in 232 00:12:01,290 --> 00:12:03,449 S1: the world to shame the strong. God has chosen what 233 00:12:03,450 --> 00:12:07,250 S1: is insignificant and despised in the world, which is viewed 234 00:12:07,490 --> 00:12:10,170 S1: as nothing to bring to nothing what is viewed as 235 00:12:10,170 --> 00:12:15,370 S1: something so that no 1st May boast in his presence. 236 00:12:15,530 --> 00:12:18,610 S1: It is from him that you are in Christ Jesus, 237 00:12:18,610 --> 00:12:24,370 S1: who became wisdom from God for us our righteousness, sanctification, redemption. 238 00:12:24,370 --> 00:12:28,050 S1: So that that that really kind of encapsulates what you're 239 00:12:28,050 --> 00:12:29,170 S1: talking about, doesn't it? 240 00:12:29,570 --> 00:12:33,410 S2: Absolutely, absolutely it does. And I think we maybe underestimate 241 00:12:33,410 --> 00:12:37,250 S2: sometimes how passionate God is for his own glory, and 242 00:12:37,410 --> 00:12:39,530 S2: how loving it is of God to be all about 243 00:12:39,530 --> 00:12:42,250 S2: his own glory. God wants to draw our attention to 244 00:12:42,290 --> 00:12:45,180 S2: how big and how amazing he is. It's what everything 245 00:12:45,179 --> 00:12:47,660 S2: was created for. But also it's best for us because 246 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:49,940 S2: there are so many times when we give too much 247 00:12:49,940 --> 00:12:52,900 S2: value and attention to things that are only going to 248 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:55,060 S2: let us down. It's like sitting on a chair that's 249 00:12:55,059 --> 00:12:57,100 S2: made out of tissue paper. You can sit on it 250 00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:59,100 S2: if you want, but it cannot hold you up. And 251 00:12:59,100 --> 00:13:01,300 S2: one of the things God does by drawing attention to 252 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:05,060 S2: himself as he says instead, you should sit, you should stand, 253 00:13:05,059 --> 00:13:07,180 S2: you should build your life on me because I'm actually 254 00:13:07,179 --> 00:13:09,820 S2: something worth building your life on. So not only is 255 00:13:09,820 --> 00:13:12,220 S2: it something God is passionate about, but it's very loving 256 00:13:12,220 --> 00:13:15,260 S2: for him to be passionate about it. Um, and we 257 00:13:15,260 --> 00:13:18,380 S2: want to be as passionate about his glory as he is. 258 00:13:18,660 --> 00:13:20,020 S5: What I said at the beginning. 259 00:13:20,020 --> 00:13:22,179 S1: Of the program, do you to tell me if you 260 00:13:22,179 --> 00:13:25,220 S1: agree with that? Because I as I listen to this 261 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:29,740 S1: EP and your song, especially for your glory, I don't 262 00:13:29,740 --> 00:13:33,699 S1: think it's a new direction. It's kind of a new direction. 263 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:37,860 S1: It's simply a different form that comes from the same 264 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:42,180 S1: heart of wanting to draw people into an experience, not 265 00:13:42,179 --> 00:13:44,439 S1: just to sit on the sidelines and watch and be 266 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,160 S1: a spectator. Be a fan, but to bring their lives 267 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,720 S1: into a posture of worship. Is that what you're trying 268 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,200 S1: to do? 269 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,160 S2: Yes. That is that is what I'm trying to do. 270 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,920 S2: There are themes that have been in my music. You know, 271 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,760 S2: some of the when people will come to me and 272 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,160 S2: they'll say, this song, for instance, like Sweet Victory or 273 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,720 S2: Song that I had in 2014 where I talked about 274 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,840 S2: my illness and I talked about hoping and God, in 275 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,120 S2: the midst of trial, people would come to me and say, hey, um, 276 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,760 S2: you know, this helped me to get through my own 277 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,240 S2: illness or my mom was in the hospital. This is 278 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,920 S2: what she listened to every day, or this song kept 279 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,400 S2: me from taking my life. Um, and that's been so 280 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,200 S2: important to me to make music where we don't have 281 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,640 S2: to pretend that life isn't hard in order to say 282 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,000 S2: that God is really good, that we can say life 283 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,120 S2: is hard and God is good. So with a song 284 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,760 S2: like For Your Glory, um, you know, it begins by saying, 285 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,640 S2: why do trials keep coming for me? Uh, why does 286 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,320 S2: hope love to ignore me? Still, I trust you write 287 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,120 S2: my story. And that song is saying, I know life 288 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,820 S2: is really hard. Hope seems distant. Um, But in the 289 00:14:41,820 --> 00:14:43,620 S2: midst of it, I know that God is at work 290 00:14:43,620 --> 00:14:45,820 S2: and I know that everything he's doing, even if it 291 00:14:45,820 --> 00:14:47,860 S2: feels hard, it is for my good and it's for 292 00:14:47,860 --> 00:14:50,820 S2: his glory. And and with this music, I want Christians 293 00:14:50,820 --> 00:14:54,260 S2: to be able to celebrate that and rejoice in that 294 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:55,100 S2: all together. 295 00:14:55,460 --> 00:14:59,420 S1: But it's not rap. It's like if people say, trip Lee, 296 00:14:59,460 --> 00:15:01,660 S1: it's like it's got to be, no, this is not rap. 297 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:05,940 S1: This is different. So, uh, has anybody said anything to you? 298 00:15:05,940 --> 00:15:08,020 S1: I'm disappointed that it's not rap. 299 00:15:09,620 --> 00:15:11,340 S2: I think the main thing that's been happening as I 300 00:15:11,340 --> 00:15:13,500 S2: was making this record, even telling my friends about it, 301 00:15:13,540 --> 00:15:15,340 S2: was people being like, wait, wait, what are you doing? 302 00:15:15,340 --> 00:15:18,020 S2: And why are you doing that? You know, I've loved 303 00:15:18,020 --> 00:15:19,820 S2: hip hop and I still do. And there will be 304 00:15:19,820 --> 00:15:22,300 S2: more rap albums to come. But, you know, I know 305 00:15:22,300 --> 00:15:24,700 S2: how important worship music is. This this is part of it. 306 00:15:24,740 --> 00:15:27,660 S2: It is blessed me. There's something special that happens when 307 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:31,340 S2: Christians sing God's praises together. And singing together is not 308 00:15:31,340 --> 00:15:34,180 S2: something that we made up. Sometimes we think like, oh, 309 00:15:34,220 --> 00:15:36,460 S2: the Western church made up a bunch of stuff. The 310 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:39,060 S2: fall and the and the light show and all of that. 311 00:15:39,060 --> 00:15:41,630 S2: And the songs we sing. Us singing songs is not 312 00:15:41,630 --> 00:15:44,150 S2: something that we made up. This is something God commands 313 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:46,990 S2: us to do. Colossians three says, let the Word of 314 00:15:46,990 --> 00:15:50,390 S2: Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another 315 00:15:50,630 --> 00:15:53,750 S2: through psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. God has commanded us 316 00:15:53,750 --> 00:15:55,190 S2: to do that. It's one of the ways that he 317 00:15:55,190 --> 00:15:58,150 S2: grows us. And so I wanted to write some songs 318 00:15:58,150 --> 00:16:01,670 S2: that Christians can sing together. I want churches to sing 319 00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:04,710 S2: these and small groups to sing these, um, families to 320 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:07,710 S2: sing these, because there's something special that happens when we 321 00:16:07,750 --> 00:16:10,510 S2: sing God's truth with one voice together. 322 00:16:11,150 --> 00:16:14,710 S1: So if you come into the service after the announcements 323 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:17,590 S1: and after the first couple of songs to to hear 324 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:20,950 S1: the message that is given, because that's where God's going 325 00:16:20,950 --> 00:16:23,830 S1: to speak to you, you're saying, no, no, no, that's 326 00:16:23,830 --> 00:16:24,590 S1: not it. 327 00:16:25,190 --> 00:16:28,350 S2: Absolutely. The the the songs that we sing together, it 328 00:16:28,350 --> 00:16:31,710 S2: is not a icebreaker before the real thing. It's not like, oh, 329 00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:34,630 S2: just little openers before the headliner or it's not the 330 00:16:34,630 --> 00:16:37,150 S2: emotional stuff before the real meat of the word. I 331 00:16:37,150 --> 00:16:40,370 S2: think sometimes people think that, um, a way to be 332 00:16:40,370 --> 00:16:44,090 S2: a serious Christian is only to care about preaching and 333 00:16:44,090 --> 00:16:46,490 S2: the music stuff. You know, that's just some extra stuff. No, 334 00:16:46,490 --> 00:16:49,730 S2: God has commanded it. And we see it all throughout Scripture. 335 00:16:49,730 --> 00:16:51,730 S2: And so when we show up, if we want to 336 00:16:51,730 --> 00:16:53,810 S2: show up late because we don't like the music, I 337 00:16:53,810 --> 00:16:55,330 S2: had a friend asked me one time, he said, do 338 00:16:55,330 --> 00:16:57,170 S2: we have to sing at church because I don't like 339 00:16:57,170 --> 00:17:00,010 S2: the songs my church sing? Um, and he said, I 340 00:17:00,010 --> 00:17:01,890 S2: just usually try to show up late. And what I 341 00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:03,930 S2: encouraged him in is, yes, we do have to sing 342 00:17:03,930 --> 00:17:07,290 S2: at church. It's what God has commanded us to do. Um, 343 00:17:07,330 --> 00:17:10,450 S2: even in the Bible, even in the Old Testament, when 344 00:17:10,490 --> 00:17:12,650 S2: Israel crosses through the Red sea, the first thing they 345 00:17:12,650 --> 00:17:14,850 S2: do when they get on the other side, after Pharaoh 346 00:17:14,850 --> 00:17:17,410 S2: and his army, um, the sea crashes in on him, 347 00:17:17,410 --> 00:17:19,730 S2: is they sing together. They sing a song about the 348 00:17:19,730 --> 00:17:22,649 S2: strength of God. They say God is a man of war. 349 00:17:22,690 --> 00:17:25,410 S2: Pharaoh and his armies have been crushed in the sea. Um, 350 00:17:25,410 --> 00:17:28,570 S2: there's something special. Um, it's almost like word. Just spoken 351 00:17:28,570 --> 00:17:30,530 S2: word isn't enough. It wasn't enough to just have a 352 00:17:30,530 --> 00:17:32,129 S2: small group of put it in the group text. They 353 00:17:32,130 --> 00:17:36,330 S2: wanted to sing big, beautiful songs together about how big 354 00:17:36,330 --> 00:17:39,149 S2: and strong the God of the Bible is. 355 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:42,429 S1: So when I heard for your glory, I just jotted 356 00:17:42,430 --> 00:17:45,550 S1: down some notes, and I wrote that for my good 357 00:17:45,550 --> 00:17:50,350 S1: and for your glory, that I resonate with that. Um. 358 00:17:50,830 --> 00:17:55,990 S1: There is a feeling of I can trust in God 359 00:17:56,030 --> 00:17:59,909 S1: because he is sovereign. So in a sense, the whole 360 00:17:59,910 --> 00:18:03,030 S1: song is telling yourself the truth about who you are 361 00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:07,030 S1: and who God, how great God is. Um, but there's 362 00:18:07,030 --> 00:18:10,869 S1: also this idea of the bad that's in my life. 363 00:18:10,869 --> 00:18:13,950 S1: I want to make sense of it, and I can't 364 00:18:13,950 --> 00:18:16,470 S1: make sense of it. And that leads me back to 365 00:18:16,510 --> 00:18:19,670 S1: trust in a sovereign God. Is that what you're trying 366 00:18:19,670 --> 00:18:20,390 S1: to do there? 367 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:22,990 S2: Absolutely. I mean, and it's one of the things that 368 00:18:22,990 --> 00:18:24,950 S2: is unique to human beings. We always want to make 369 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:27,950 S2: sense of what's going on around us. We won't always know. 370 00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:30,390 S2: God doesn't always tell us the exact reasons for every 371 00:18:30,390 --> 00:18:33,110 S2: little thing that happens. But the Bible is really clear 372 00:18:33,109 --> 00:18:36,230 S2: that everything God is working out, it is for the 373 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,159 S2: good of those that he loves and calls according to 374 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,359 S2: his purpose. But not only that, it's also for his 375 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,840 S2: glory to show how incredible he is. You know, if 376 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,040 S2: God was just strong but he wasn't good, then that 377 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,919 S2: strength would not be a comfort to us because we 378 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,560 S2: wouldn't know how he would land on us if God 379 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,840 S2: was just sovereign. But we couldn't trust him. But not 380 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,159 S2: only is everything for God's glory, and he's sovereign over everything, 381 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,080 S2: but also he works all things for our good because 382 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,920 S2: he loves us. He's adopted us. And for me, that 383 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,960 S2: gives me peace and comfort, even in really difficult seasons 384 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,240 S2: that I can't make sense of. 385 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,120 S6: Why do trials keep coming for me? Why does hope 386 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,960 S6: love to ignore me till I trust you? Write my story. 387 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,479 S6: I know the truth. But hear the lie. You said 388 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,440 S6: chase my worst desires wanna trust you. But I'm tired. 389 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,139 S6: Watch my step. Please hold my hand. I place my 390 00:19:36,180 --> 00:19:40,940 S6: hope in your plan for my good and for your glory. 391 00:19:43,820 --> 00:19:48,100 S6: Please make joy. How good is pain? Make me grow 392 00:19:48,140 --> 00:19:53,100 S6: after this rain. For my good and for your glory. 393 00:19:55,859 --> 00:20:03,020 S6: For my good and for your glory. How did I 394 00:20:03,020 --> 00:20:07,940 S6: fall in this deep? You give strength when I'm my weakest. 395 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:16,060 S6: Help me trust when I can't see. I surrender to you. 396 00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:19,899 S6: Take me if it breaks me. Can you shake me? 397 00:20:19,940 --> 00:20:27,060 S6: Use me where ever you place me. Watch my step. 398 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:31,540 S6: Please hold my hand. I place my hope. In your plan. 399 00:20:31,780 --> 00:20:39,160 S6: For my good and for your glory. Please make joy. 400 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,600 S6: How good is pain? Make me grow. After this, pray 401 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:51,160 S6: for my good and for your glory. For my good 402 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:57,280 S6: and for your glory. When I'm in a storm, I 403 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:02,320 S6: think I'm done. No matter the foe. You overcome it 404 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,960 S6: for evil. But you turn around, turn it around I 405 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,000 S6: quick I forget how many times you made a path 406 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,080 S6: I could not find. Renew my mind for your glory. 407 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,639 S6: Watch my step. Please hold my hand I place my hope. 408 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,920 S6: In your plan. For my good and for your glory. 409 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,140 S6: Please make joy out of his pain. Make me grow 410 00:21:36,180 --> 00:21:41,140 S6: after this rain. For my good and for your glory. 411 00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:51,460 S6: For my good and for your glory. Be my Savior 412 00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:55,859 S6: and your story. He met death. Then took it for me. 413 00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:59,100 S6: For my good and for your glory. 414 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:04,739 S1: That is Tripoli. The song for your glory from the 415 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:09,220 S1: new EP. For Your glory from Bragg Worship. And you're 416 00:22:09,220 --> 00:22:11,220 S1: hearing it today on Chris Fabry Live. We have the 417 00:22:11,220 --> 00:22:17,139 S1: link at the website, Chris, Chris Fabriclive. But here's the 418 00:22:17,140 --> 00:22:19,940 S1: other thing about the album. As I listen through trip, 419 00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:23,860 S1: you've put other people forward in this project, right? 420 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:26,580 S2: Yes, yes I have. Um, you know, one of the 421 00:22:26,580 --> 00:22:28,980 S2: things I didn't want to happen with this project is 422 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:32,430 S2: I didn't want it to be limited by whatever my 423 00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:35,150 S2: vocal abilities are. You know, I'm a rapper primarily. It's 424 00:22:35,150 --> 00:22:36,950 S2: not that I can't hold a note, but, you know, 425 00:22:36,990 --> 00:22:39,869 S2: I'm not going to wow anybody with any vocal runs. 426 00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:45,909 S2: And so Naomi Raine and Doe and Jonathan Traylor and 427 00:22:45,950 --> 00:22:48,710 S2: Leah Smith and Madison Ryann Ward, those are the artists 428 00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:51,150 S2: that I'm working with on this EP. And they all 429 00:22:51,150 --> 00:22:53,510 S2: helped to bring these songs to life, and I'm just 430 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:55,629 S2: so grateful that they were willing to collaborate with me 431 00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:56,109 S2: on it. 432 00:22:56,310 --> 00:23:01,469 S1: I really like the the song fortress, uh, Naomi Raine, 433 00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:06,110 S1: and there's a sample of of children's voices in here, too. 434 00:23:06,430 --> 00:23:07,390 S1: Tell me about that. 435 00:23:08,030 --> 00:23:10,430 S2: I mean, that's really, you know, as I was making 436 00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:13,710 S2: some of these songs, there are things that are common 437 00:23:13,710 --> 00:23:16,590 S2: in hip hop and how hip hop produces songs, and 438 00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:18,790 S2: I wanted to include some of those elements, and some 439 00:23:18,790 --> 00:23:20,990 S2: of those things sometimes are just kind of off the 440 00:23:21,030 --> 00:23:24,790 S2: wall vocal samples that just, uh, that just sound interesting. 441 00:23:24,790 --> 00:23:26,550 S2: And that's one of the things that was included in 442 00:23:26,550 --> 00:23:28,350 S2: this one. And, you know, I don't want how we 443 00:23:28,350 --> 00:23:30,570 S2: think of what worship has to sound like to be 444 00:23:30,570 --> 00:23:33,250 S2: too limited. So there was some cool production elements that 445 00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:34,450 S2: we that we just added in. 446 00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:38,250 S1: Yeah, I love that. Keep me from believing my own lies. 447 00:23:38,530 --> 00:23:42,370 S1: That spoke to me, you know. Uh, and the idea 448 00:23:42,369 --> 00:23:44,649 S1: of the fortress. This is a, you know, a god 449 00:23:44,650 --> 00:23:47,729 S1: is a fortress. An ever present help in time of trouble. 450 00:23:47,770 --> 00:23:51,850 S1: He's our refuge. That's what Naomi is singing about, right? 451 00:23:52,090 --> 00:23:55,290 S2: Yes. When we, me and Naomi wrote this song together and, 452 00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:58,010 S2: you know, kind of our anchor scripture was Paul talking 453 00:23:58,010 --> 00:24:01,609 S2: about the thorn in the flesh and saying, you know, uh, 454 00:24:01,730 --> 00:24:04,610 S2: that God said his grace is sufficient. And he and 455 00:24:04,609 --> 00:24:07,730 S2: Paul said, I can boast all the more gladly in 456 00:24:07,730 --> 00:24:10,610 S2: my weakness, you know, because it's when he's weak that 457 00:24:10,609 --> 00:24:13,090 S2: he's really strong. And I wanted people to be able 458 00:24:13,090 --> 00:24:15,090 S2: to embrace the fact that it's okay for us to 459 00:24:15,130 --> 00:24:17,130 S2: be weak. That doesn't have to feel like the end 460 00:24:17,130 --> 00:24:19,250 S2: of the world, because we have a strong God who 461 00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:22,050 S2: shows up. And sometimes when things are going well, we 462 00:24:22,090 --> 00:24:24,770 S2: convince ourselves that our strength is enough. And that's part 463 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:26,250 S2: of what we were getting at with the help me 464 00:24:26,290 --> 00:24:29,389 S2: keep me from believing my own lies. I'm feeble until 465 00:24:29,390 --> 00:24:32,950 S2: my fortress arrives. God's strength is the strength that matters. 466 00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:34,870 S2: And as long as we think as our strength, that's 467 00:24:34,869 --> 00:24:36,310 S2: when we're going to be at our weakest. 468 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:44,190 S4: And weakest. 469 00:24:44,190 --> 00:24:49,950 S7: When I'm strongest in my eyes. I'm hopeless. When I 470 00:24:49,950 --> 00:24:55,790 S7: rejoice in my eyes. Lord, keep me low. Until I 471 00:24:55,830 --> 00:25:02,870 S7: recognize I'm feeble. Till my fortress I'm feeble till my 472 00:25:02,869 --> 00:25:08,270 S7: fortress arrives. My God can't do anything. His grace is 473 00:25:08,270 --> 00:25:12,230 S7: enough for me. When my strength is gone. He shows up. 474 00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:15,830 S7: When I call my God, he shows up. What's death 475 00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:20,470 S7: to a risen king? He conquered the enemy. When my 476 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:24,270 S7: strength is gone, he shows up. When I call my God, 477 00:25:24,270 --> 00:25:34,680 S7: he shows up. Shows up. Shows up. Shows up. 478 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,880 S1: That's Naomi Raine. The song is fortress and it's on 479 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,879 S1: the new worship EP. For your glory trip Lee is 480 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,760 S1: with us today. You can find out more about that 481 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:52,200 S1: project at the website. Chris Fabriclive Chris Fabriclive more straight 482 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,760 S1: ahead on Moody Radio. 483 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,200 S7: My fortress. My god, can't do anything. Anything. 484 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:14,320 S8: I lift my head. I'm searching now. Where is your 485 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:21,240 S8: sweet glory? I heard about can't find your face beneath 486 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,780 S8: this weight. What does it take to taste and to 487 00:26:25,780 --> 00:26:30,420 S8: see your grave. I need you to draw my eyes. 488 00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:37,780 S8: Draw my eyes to you, to you, to you. Jesus. 489 00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:43,620 S8: Can you draw my eyes? Draw my eyes to you. 490 00:26:44,580 --> 00:26:47,540 S1: This is Chris Fabry live on Moody Radio. That is 491 00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:52,180 S1: Doe singing on the new worship EP For Your Glory 492 00:26:52,180 --> 00:26:55,979 S1: from Bragg Worship and trip Lee from the very heart 493 00:26:56,020 --> 00:27:00,180 S1: of trip Lee. Uh, don't call us today. Our programs recorded. Okay, 494 00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:04,180 S1: so take me to into that song. Draw my eyes 495 00:27:04,220 --> 00:27:07,740 S1: as I listen to it. I thought, we have a choice. 496 00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:10,659 S1: Every day we have a choice. What I'm going to look, 497 00:27:10,820 --> 00:27:14,260 S1: look at, look up to, look down to focus on. 498 00:27:14,420 --> 00:27:15,300 S1: Am I getting it? 499 00:27:15,660 --> 00:27:19,300 S2: Absolutely. You know, I wrote that song, um, on one 500 00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,220 S2: Sunday when I went to church on a Sunday morning 501 00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:25,400 S2: and the songs were starting. We're trying to worship together 502 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,040 S2: and I feel so distracted. I'm thinking about the things 503 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,600 S2: I didn't get done during the week. I'm thinking about 504 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,800 S2: the ways that I failed. I'm looking at people. I'm like, oh, 505 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,359 S2: I forgot to call them back. I'm thinking about what 506 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,120 S2: I want to do next week, and there's all this 507 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,359 S2: stuff surrounding going around in my mind, and I and, 508 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,920 S2: you know, I'm like singing. And then I get distracted. 509 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,880 S2: I'm like, Lord, help me to focus on you. Draw 510 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,399 S2: my eyes to you. Um, I wrote that down in 511 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,479 S2: my notebook and then wrote that song later that day. 512 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,800 S2: And I think, um, you know, there's a part on 513 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,440 S2: the bridge that says, um, uh, you reign. We know 514 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,440 S2: this when I don't notice. It's not your beauty. It's 515 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,239 S2: my eyes. When we don't, we're not blown away by 516 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,960 S2: how big and glorious, beautiful God is. It's not because 517 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,560 S2: he stopped being glorious. It's because we're not looking at him. Clearly, 518 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,520 S2: we can't see him. And so this song is meant 519 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,440 S2: to be honest about the fact that sometimes we get 520 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,919 S2: distracted and we need to be reminded how incredible Jesus is. 521 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,000 S1: It is a gift to be able to see that 522 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,720 S1: you're distracted, you know? Yes, to be able to see that. Okay, 523 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,220 S1: I'm not able to focus right now and you can 524 00:28:25,220 --> 00:28:27,340 S1: go two ways with that. You can feel guilty, you 525 00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:29,459 S1: can feel shame, you can beat yourself up, or you 526 00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:33,700 S1: can say, okay, all right, I'm distracted. God, you've reminded 527 00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:36,260 S1: me here. Thank you for that. You know, I'm going 528 00:28:36,260 --> 00:28:38,820 S1: to put a note down about who I need to call, 529 00:28:38,860 --> 00:28:42,500 S1: you know, because that's important. But yeah, so that frees 530 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:46,260 S1: you up. You can live freely rather than shackled, right? 531 00:28:46,580 --> 00:28:50,060 S2: Amen. And God, um, God won't be surprised when we 532 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,460 S2: confess to him that we're distracted, or even that we're 533 00:28:52,460 --> 00:28:54,260 S2: wrestling with doubt. I think about the man in the 534 00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:56,900 S2: in the gospels that said to Jesus, Lord, I believe, 535 00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:59,420 S2: help my unbelief. We can we can even take our 536 00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:02,140 S2: distraction to God, our unbelief to God, because that's just 537 00:29:02,140 --> 00:29:04,459 S2: how gracious he is. And so we can be freed 538 00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:06,500 S2: instead of just feeling shame. 539 00:29:06,620 --> 00:29:11,100 S1: Yes. Um, take me back to your childhood and what 540 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:14,700 S1: you wanted to do, and that may sound off the wall, 541 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:18,780 S1: but I think what we what we wanted or desired 542 00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:21,459 S1: in our childhood, we talked about that the light of kids. 543 00:29:21,910 --> 00:29:24,990 S1: There's something that's there that's still in your heart that 544 00:29:24,990 --> 00:29:27,910 S1: is going in a slightly different direction. I think you 545 00:29:27,910 --> 00:29:29,870 S1: wanted to play sports, didn't you? 546 00:29:30,190 --> 00:29:33,469 S2: Sure. Yes. I, um, I love sports. When I was 547 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:37,590 S2: a kid, you know, I loved basketball and I loved baseball. Um, 548 00:29:37,630 --> 00:29:39,230 S2: and it was one of those things where when you're 549 00:29:39,230 --> 00:29:41,150 S2: a kid, you you want to do all the stuff 550 00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:43,070 S2: that the people you look up to do. And so 551 00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:44,670 S2: I was like, oh, I love Michael Jordan. I'm gonna 552 00:29:44,670 --> 00:29:47,150 S2: try to play basketball. I love Ken Griffey Jr. I'm 553 00:29:47,150 --> 00:29:50,470 S2: gonna try to play baseball. And also I loved music. 554 00:29:50,510 --> 00:29:52,469 S2: So I was like, man, I love these. My dad 555 00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:54,630 S2: was always playing me his favorite music. I was starting 556 00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:56,750 S2: to fall in love with music. And so rap was 557 00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:59,710 S2: another thing that I tried to do. Um, and, and, 558 00:29:59,750 --> 00:30:01,710 S2: you know, it was it wasn't until I was, you know, 559 00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:03,550 S2: a teenager that I was like, wait, me and my 560 00:30:03,550 --> 00:30:06,270 S2: friends loved rap together, but I think I might actually 561 00:30:06,270 --> 00:30:08,870 S2: be good at this. And, um, when I met Jesus 562 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:11,990 S2: when I was 14, that's when I started to think like, oh, 563 00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:15,670 S2: maybe I should use my music, um, in a different 564 00:30:15,670 --> 00:30:18,110 S2: way than I have been. Um, so, yeah, you know, 565 00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,970 S2: I've always been creative. I've loved to make stuff. I 566 00:30:20,970 --> 00:30:23,770 S2: used to, you know, I was no, I, you know, 567 00:30:23,810 --> 00:30:25,730 S2: I wasn't good enough to be a moody radio, but 568 00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:28,610 S2: I was making fake radio shows on my karaoke machine. 569 00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:30,530 S2: I was, you know, recording songs off the radio that 570 00:30:30,530 --> 00:30:33,850 S2: I liked and recording little intros and transitions. I just 571 00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:36,650 S2: loved the idea of having an idea and being able 572 00:30:36,650 --> 00:30:38,770 S2: to make it. And I think that is one of 573 00:30:38,770 --> 00:30:41,410 S2: the things that has still been with me. I just 574 00:30:41,410 --> 00:30:44,170 S2: I'm so grateful that God, you know, who's the greatest 575 00:30:44,170 --> 00:30:46,850 S2: creator says, oh, you made in my image. I'm going 576 00:30:46,890 --> 00:30:50,890 S2: to let you have some of the experience of making something, um, 577 00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:53,370 S2: and then getting to see that thing made that just 578 00:30:53,370 --> 00:30:54,650 S2: brings me so much joy. 579 00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:58,130 S1: That's one of the things anytime I hear your music, 580 00:30:58,130 --> 00:31:01,410 S1: a project like this, or listen to you talk or 581 00:31:01,810 --> 00:31:05,770 S1: see you preach, you know, online or do interviews, I 582 00:31:05,770 --> 00:31:10,890 S1: think about you being about identity. Uh, who who am I? 583 00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:14,330 S1: Am I what I do? Am I what I accomplish, 584 00:31:14,610 --> 00:31:18,330 S1: am I what I project to others, my public relations team, 585 00:31:18,370 --> 00:31:21,790 S1: you know. Or is there a substance to me that 586 00:31:21,790 --> 00:31:25,630 S1: gets its identity from a different place than what other 587 00:31:25,630 --> 00:31:29,910 S1: people can see? Uh, talk about that whole identity package. 588 00:31:30,510 --> 00:31:33,030 S2: Yes. You know, I was actually just this morning, I 589 00:31:33,030 --> 00:31:36,030 S2: was reading, rereading, uh, one of my favorite little books, 590 00:31:36,030 --> 00:31:39,830 S2: The Freedom of Self-forgetfulness, from Tim Keller. And he was 591 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:44,870 S2: talking about the fact that, um, you know, sometimes when our, um, 592 00:31:44,910 --> 00:31:47,590 S2: you know, when we are feeling insecure, when our ego 593 00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:50,790 S2: is damaged, it's because we try to find meaning in 594 00:31:50,790 --> 00:31:52,710 S2: something other than God. And I think one of the 595 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:54,510 S2: things that God reminds me all the time is I 596 00:31:54,510 --> 00:31:56,510 S2: don't have to, like, go out and prove that I 597 00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:58,710 S2: have worth and value. So even as I'm about to 598 00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:00,390 S2: put out a new record, one of my main prayers 599 00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:02,670 S2: is God help me not to base my worth and 600 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:04,989 S2: value on how many likes this post gets or how 601 00:32:04,990 --> 00:32:09,310 S2: many people stream these new songs. Um, what gives me 602 00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:12,270 S2: worth and value is something that no, that nobody can 603 00:32:12,270 --> 00:32:14,150 S2: give me or take away is that I am made 604 00:32:14,150 --> 00:32:16,150 S2: in the image of God, and I am purchased by 605 00:32:16,150 --> 00:32:18,440 S2: the blood of Jesus. And that is a fight to 606 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,720 S2: to hold on to every single day. And the stuff 607 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,520 S2: that I do, I think it, you know, I want 608 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,200 S2: to do it because it pleases God, not because it 609 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,960 S2: gives me worth and value or because I want to 610 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,400 S2: enrich other people's lives. I want to bring other people joy. 611 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,040 S2: I want to point other people to good things. Um, 612 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,160 S2: and so that's a prayer that I'm, that I'm always 613 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,920 S2: praying and, um, yeah, others can pray for me even 614 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,680 S2: now is new music comes out. 615 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,600 S1: Yeah. Well, that takes us back to the whole delight, 616 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,760 S1: you know, it's like what you can delight in. And 617 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,880 S1: what you see in Tim Keller's writings can delight other people, 618 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440 S1: and that's doing that. Today I pulled up a quote 619 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,880 S1: that I want to read. This has come back to 620 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,800 S1: me again and again and again from A.W. Tozer. This 621 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640 S1: is from the pursuit of God. He says, the pursuit 622 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,680 S1: of God will embrace the labor of bringing our total 623 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,880 S1: personality into conformity to his. And this not judicially, but 624 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,840 S1: actually I do not here refer to the act of 625 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,020 S1: justification by faith in Christ. I speak of a volunteer 626 00:33:17,060 --> 00:33:21,820 S1: exalting of God to his proper station over us, and 627 00:33:21,820 --> 00:33:25,700 S1: a willing surrender of our whole being to the place 628 00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:31,740 S1: of worshipful submission which the creator creature circumstance makes proper. 629 00:33:31,780 --> 00:33:34,700 S1: Now that's that's a mouthful, but it leads up to 630 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:38,580 S1: this sentence the moment we make up our minds that 631 00:33:38,580 --> 00:33:42,740 S1: we are going on with this determination to exalt God 632 00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:48,540 S1: over all. We step out of the world's parade. And 633 00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:51,060 S1: I have thought about that and thought about that. And 634 00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:53,660 S1: in a sense, what you've done here with this worship 635 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,220 S1: worship album, you've stepped out of the rap parade. Not 636 00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:59,340 S1: because the rap parade is bad, you know, just because 637 00:33:59,620 --> 00:34:02,459 S1: this is the place where God told you to go 638 00:34:02,660 --> 00:34:05,780 S1: and you can't judge the success or failure of it 639 00:34:05,780 --> 00:34:09,859 S1: by anybody's response. You just have to be faithful to 640 00:34:09,940 --> 00:34:13,100 S1: be in the parade that you're in. Talk about that. 641 00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:17,560 S2: Absolutely. Um, you know, I, I don't get to decide 642 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,759 S2: how other people receive the things that I make. What 643 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,480 S2: God has called me to do is to be faithful. And, 644 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,719 S2: you know, I think so often sometimes people say, hey, 645 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,280 S2: how do I get to, you know, where you've gotten 646 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,799 S2: with your music or in other ways? And sometimes I'm like, 647 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,359 S2: I don't know how to give you a one, two, 648 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,879 S2: three step, because what I was trying to do was 649 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,919 S2: to be faithful to Jesus. I was trying to get 650 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,040 S2: better at the things that God has given me to do, 651 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,439 S2: and then everything else is in his hands. I think 652 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,840 S2: sometimes we think we can reverse engineer particular responses like, oh, 653 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,360 S2: if I do this, this and this, it'll lead to this, 654 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,000 S2: but that's just not how it works. Um, the Psalms say, 655 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,000 S2: unless the Lord builds the house, those who labor labor 656 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,600 S2: in vain. And I am so aware over, you know, 657 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,560 S2: the time that I've been making things and putting them 658 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,040 S2: into the world, that there are times when I think, oh, 659 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,240 S2: this is the greatest thing I've ever made. And and 660 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,799 S2: it's not how people receive it. And sometimes I'm like, oh, 661 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,399 S2: this is all I have. And the Lord uses it mightily. 662 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,920 S2: And I love that because God humbles me time and 663 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,529 S2: time again and reminds me, um, that he's everything is 664 00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:17,570 S2: really in his hands and not and not in mine. 665 00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:22,450 S1: Yeah. So that that word that the Tozer used to surrender. 666 00:35:22,650 --> 00:35:25,810 S1: That's what I hear coming. When you worship God, you 667 00:35:25,810 --> 00:35:30,290 S1: really are surrendered. You're surrendering all of yourself to him, 668 00:35:30,290 --> 00:35:32,810 S1: which is why it's important in church not to come 669 00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:35,569 S1: in late, you know, and hear the message to, to 670 00:35:35,610 --> 00:35:38,090 S1: be part of that process. Right? 671 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:42,650 S2: Yes. Um, part of any interaction with God, any healthy 672 00:35:42,650 --> 00:35:45,970 S2: and holy interaction with God is just an offering ourself 673 00:35:45,969 --> 00:35:47,890 S2: to him and saying, God, here I am. That's one 674 00:35:47,890 --> 00:35:50,650 S2: of the beauties of the gospel is, you know, we 675 00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:53,330 S2: build our whole life around performing for everybody else, showing 676 00:35:53,330 --> 00:35:55,969 S2: how great we are, showing how many good things we've done. 677 00:35:55,969 --> 00:35:59,090 S2: And when we come before God, um, he sees us 678 00:35:59,210 --> 00:36:01,170 S2: exactly how we are. And one of the amazing things 679 00:36:01,170 --> 00:36:02,930 S2: about God is that we can be fully known by 680 00:36:02,930 --> 00:36:05,730 S2: him and fully loved by him. And so I would 681 00:36:05,730 --> 00:36:09,169 S2: encourage us not to fight how vulnerable that surrender to 682 00:36:09,170 --> 00:36:11,930 S2: God feels, but to embrace it. One because it is 683 00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:14,950 S2: the only place, the only relationship in the universe where 684 00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:17,710 S2: you can have that perfectly and purely, but also because 685 00:36:17,710 --> 00:36:19,989 S2: it's so good for our souls. Because when we are 686 00:36:20,030 --> 00:36:23,190 S2: willing to say, God, here I am, warts and all, 687 00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:25,590 S2: and that's the place where we can really give everything 688 00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:27,430 S2: to him and to be open in our hearts to 689 00:36:27,469 --> 00:36:28,870 S2: go wherever he points us. 690 00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:33,870 S1: That's Tripoli. If you go to Chris Livorno, click through 691 00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:38,270 S1: today's information. You'll see the new worship EP For Your Glory. 692 00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:42,149 S1: You're hearing music from that today at the radio Backyard fence. Again, 693 00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:46,590 S1: go to Chris Fabry Live.com more straight ahead on Moody 694 00:36:46,590 --> 00:36:48,110 S1: Radio here. 695 00:36:52,110 --> 00:37:09,029 S6: These will bow tongues will say that it rains from above. Erase. Erase. Erase. 696 00:37:10,969 --> 00:37:16,570 S6: Your knees will bow. Tongues will say that it rains 697 00:37:16,570 --> 00:37:17,850 S6: from above. 698 00:37:27,130 --> 00:37:31,570 S1: From Tripolis new EP. For your glory, this is Leah Smith. 699 00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:33,009 S1: Take my life. 700 00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:41,370 S7: Broke down I've run out of running. I can hear. 701 00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:43,930 S8: You summon me. 702 00:37:43,969 --> 00:37:44,970 S7: Out of my. 703 00:37:44,969 --> 00:37:45,969 S8: Grave. 704 00:37:46,450 --> 00:37:55,210 S7: I count all my old ways forsake. Count my soul awake. 705 00:37:55,570 --> 00:38:08,650 S7: And all my shame erase. Jesus, save me, raise me. Holy. 706 00:38:09,290 --> 00:38:17,870 S7: Your home all by yourself. Take my life. Why look 707 00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:24,190 S7: back when you're my captain? Turn me right loose. My 708 00:38:24,190 --> 00:38:30,990 S7: whole gave you control. Take my life. Why look back 709 00:38:30,989 --> 00:38:38,509 S7: when you're my captain. Turn me right. Walking in new life. 710 00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:44,029 S1: That's Leah Smith. Take my life from the new worship 711 00:38:44,070 --> 00:38:48,029 S1: EP from Tripoli for your glory. You can find it 712 00:38:48,030 --> 00:38:52,270 S1: at Chris Fabbri, Livorno. Click through today's information. Oh, what 713 00:38:52,270 --> 00:38:54,390 S1: a pleasure to get to talk with trip. Okay. Take 714 00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:58,030 S1: me into that song with Leah Smith. Why look back 715 00:38:58,030 --> 00:39:00,590 S1: when you're my captain? That grabbed me. 716 00:39:01,350 --> 00:39:04,270 S2: Yes. I mean, there's so many times when we feel 717 00:39:04,270 --> 00:39:07,230 S2: drawn to things that are different to where the Lord 718 00:39:07,230 --> 00:39:09,880 S2: is leading us, but of course, the reason we came 719 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,600 S2: to Jesus is because we realized, okay, I'm actually not 720 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,399 S2: a good Lord of my life, so let me put 721 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,600 S2: things in in his hands. And when Jesus says, you know, 722 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,319 S2: deny yourself and come after me, he's saying, we need 723 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,600 S2: to acknowledge that sometimes I lead myself off of cliffs 724 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,840 S2: and there is a Savior who's saying, let me lead 725 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,160 S2: you in the right direction. Um, and I think Christians do. 726 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,640 S2: Sometimes we we come to Jesus because we know we 727 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,000 S2: need his forgiveness, and then we start trying to build 728 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,600 S2: this record of how perfectly righteous we are. And I 729 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,319 S2: love in Philippians three where Paul goes to this like 730 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,400 S2: amazing resume of who he is. He's like, if anyone 731 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,399 S2: has confidence in the flesh, it's me. And he names 732 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,120 S2: all these amazing things that people would see as pious 733 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,239 S2: and everything. But then he says everything. That was a 734 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,239 S2: gain to me. I've considered to be a loss because 735 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,880 S2: of Christ. He's saying the righteousness that matters is the 736 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,319 S2: righteousness that was given to me as a gift by Jesus. 737 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,040 S2: So I'm not trying to prove myself. You are my captain. 738 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,120 S2: I've surrendered everything to you. Everything that matters most. It 739 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,400 S2: has the most value that I can bank on and 740 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:09,219 S2: boasted is in Jesus. 741 00:40:10,219 --> 00:40:14,260 S1: What has kept you from veering off and going over 742 00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:14,900 S1: a cliff? 743 00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:19,540 S2: God's grace. Purely God's grace. You know, I can think 744 00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:22,900 S2: of so many times where I could have seen myself, um, 745 00:40:22,940 --> 00:40:25,740 S2: making poor decisions that led me in a bad direction. 746 00:40:25,739 --> 00:40:27,620 S2: And then I think about the people that God sent 747 00:40:27,620 --> 00:40:30,779 S2: into my life, or the passage of scripture that he 748 00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:33,780 S2: directed me to. God has just been really, really gracious. 749 00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:37,260 S2: You know, there's nothing in me that ever feels like, uh, 750 00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:41,140 S2: I'm better than anyone, or I am incapable of going 751 00:40:41,140 --> 00:40:44,940 S2: off track. It is purely God's grace. And, um, the 752 00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:47,419 S2: people who are closest to me are encouraged by me, 753 00:40:47,420 --> 00:40:49,739 S2: but they're not overly impressed by me. You know, people 754 00:40:49,739 --> 00:40:52,300 S2: on the internet, the things you share on social media, 755 00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:55,180 S2: those are your highlights, the highlight reel. My wife sees 756 00:40:55,180 --> 00:40:58,180 S2: the highlights and lowlights. You know, my best friends, they 757 00:40:58,180 --> 00:41:00,340 S2: know what I'm strong at. They know what I'm weak at. 758 00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:03,100 S2: And they're not afraid to encourage me for the good things. 759 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:06,180 S2: And they are not afraid to encourage. To rebuke me. 760 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,839 S2: for the ways that I fall short. And God has 761 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,360 S2: used that tremendously in my life, and I am terrified 762 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,320 S2: of getting to a place where everyone in my community 763 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,000 S2: is more impressed with me than they are just a 764 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,520 S2: loving brother or sister to me. 765 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,399 S1: And they love you too, even as. And that's the 766 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,759 S1: hard thing for me to understand about God and His 767 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,160 S1: love for me. It's like he can't love me anymore, 768 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,520 S1: no matter my performance. It's like, but that's that's not 769 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,040 S1: the way the world works. That's not the way relationships 770 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,319 S1: do some good. You know, they're going to like me 771 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,000 S1: some bad. You're going to not like me. And that's 772 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,319 S1: not what God does. 773 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,960 S2: Not at all. And he wants that to be reflected 774 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,399 S2: in how we love and interact with one another. And 775 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,680 S2: God has used that. You know, tremendously in my life 776 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,440 S2: to keep me, to keep me on the right path. Yeah. 777 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:56,439 S1: Um, what what mistake have you made? Go back in 778 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,480 S1: your life? What mistake have you made that if you 779 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,719 S1: could do it over again, you'd say, ah, I do 780 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,640 S1: that differently. 781 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,089 S2: Oh, man. I mean, we could. We could be here 782 00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:08,250 S2: all day. We might need another hour. Chris. Um, you 783 00:42:08,250 --> 00:42:10,330 S2: know one thing. You know, one thing even in, uh, 784 00:42:10,370 --> 00:42:13,529 S2: relation to this project is I wish that I would 785 00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:16,250 S2: have learned to play an instrument earlier in my life. 786 00:42:16,290 --> 00:42:20,570 S2: You know, I didn't learn to start playing, uh, keys until, um, 787 00:42:20,770 --> 00:42:22,730 S2: you know, a few years ago. And really, it started 788 00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:25,130 S2: because I wanted to do this worship project. And I thought, 789 00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:26,850 S2: if I'm going to write worship songs and I need 790 00:42:26,850 --> 00:42:28,890 S2: to learn, I can't ask people to, like, send me 791 00:42:28,930 --> 00:42:30,890 S2: hip hop beats, to write worship songs to. I have 792 00:42:30,890 --> 00:42:34,009 S2: to learn chord progressions a little bit better. I have 793 00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:35,489 S2: to learn how to play stuff. I need to learn 794 00:42:35,489 --> 00:42:37,290 S2: how to produce, and I wish I would have done 795 00:42:37,290 --> 00:42:39,810 S2: that earlier. But it is one of those things where 796 00:42:39,810 --> 00:42:42,569 S2: it's a reminder that God has perfect timing, because I'm 797 00:42:42,570 --> 00:42:45,450 S2: not sure that this is part of what was enjoyable 798 00:42:45,450 --> 00:42:47,770 S2: about learning to produce. And learning to write these worship 799 00:42:47,770 --> 00:42:50,770 S2: songs was the process of learning new things, and that's 800 00:42:50,770 --> 00:42:52,489 S2: been a way that I think God got me to 801 00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:53,290 S2: this place. 802 00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:58,210 S1: Yeah. Um, let me go back to your kids then. 803 00:42:58,250 --> 00:43:01,370 S1: As you are singing these songs, are you doing these 804 00:43:01,370 --> 00:43:06,230 S1: worship songs? Do you see your children? Years from now, 805 00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:09,510 S1: being in church singing the songs that you've written? 806 00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:12,589 S2: Oh, I mean, I would love that. Um, my, uh, 807 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:16,030 S2: my daughter, uh, Selah. She is 11 years old. Um, 808 00:43:16,030 --> 00:43:18,550 S2: she is of my kids right now. She's the one 809 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:22,350 S2: who is, uh, the most musical. And we love to 810 00:43:22,350 --> 00:43:23,790 S2: sit at the piano. You know, there's some of these 811 00:43:23,790 --> 00:43:26,430 S2: songs that, uh, I said, Selah. Hey, here's a song 812 00:43:26,430 --> 00:43:28,110 S2: I just wrote. What do you think? And she sits 813 00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:30,589 S2: at the piano and sings with me. She actually wrote 814 00:43:30,590 --> 00:43:33,109 S2: a song that I put on my last album, The Epilogue. 815 00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:35,549 S2: You know, she's a better songwriter than me right now 816 00:43:35,590 --> 00:43:38,589 S2: at 11 than I was when I was 16. And, um, 817 00:43:38,590 --> 00:43:41,230 S2: it's amazing to watch that. So my prayer is, you know, 818 00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:44,150 S2: there's a thing about, you know, great worship songs that 819 00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:46,509 S2: draw people to Jesus that can go further than a 820 00:43:46,510 --> 00:43:48,750 S2: great sermon in terms of the amount of people that's 821 00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:51,029 S2: able to impact and the frequency with which it's able 822 00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:53,950 S2: to impact people. And I would be overjoyed if the 823 00:43:53,950 --> 00:43:57,149 S2: Lord used any of these songs as something that had 824 00:43:57,150 --> 00:44:00,070 S2: a long lifespan of blessing. God's people in any particular 825 00:44:00,070 --> 00:44:02,190 S2: community would be an amazing blessing to me. 826 00:44:02,650 --> 00:44:05,170 S1: I think I asked you this years and years ago, 827 00:44:05,170 --> 00:44:08,009 S1: but what is success for Tripoli? 828 00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:12,450 S2: You know, I think it looks different in different seasons. 829 00:44:12,489 --> 00:44:16,330 S2: I mean, primarily, I want to be faithful to God. Um, 830 00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:20,850 S2: you know, I'm terrified of of the possibility that I 831 00:44:20,850 --> 00:44:23,810 S2: would die. And people who were far away from me 832 00:44:24,210 --> 00:44:26,250 S2: would say wonderful things about me. They would say, he 833 00:44:26,250 --> 00:44:28,370 S2: did this for me. I heard this song. I heard 834 00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:31,250 S2: this sermon. He blessed me and that the people close 835 00:44:31,250 --> 00:44:33,330 S2: to me wouldn't have as many good things to say. 836 00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:35,810 S2: I want to be faithful in a way where the 837 00:44:35,810 --> 00:44:38,770 S2: closer you are to me, you still see that I'm 838 00:44:38,770 --> 00:44:41,890 S2: trying to be faithful and have an impact there. Um, 839 00:44:41,890 --> 00:44:44,290 S2: so I want to be faithful to God above everything else. 840 00:44:44,330 --> 00:44:47,330 S2: With a project like this, if this encouraged people to 841 00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:50,930 S2: think of singing songs to God as not just fluff 842 00:44:50,930 --> 00:44:53,290 S2: before a sermon, if that was the only impact that 843 00:44:53,290 --> 00:44:55,009 S2: God had, is it helped some people to think more 844 00:44:55,010 --> 00:44:57,489 S2: carefully about that? That would feel like success to me 845 00:44:57,489 --> 00:44:59,810 S2: if there were a few churches that that brought these 846 00:44:59,810 --> 00:45:02,630 S2: songs into the life of the church, and it helped them. 847 00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:04,750 S2: It helped the church to have a clearer sense of 848 00:45:04,750 --> 00:45:07,350 S2: the fact that we can lament and praise God in 849 00:45:07,350 --> 00:45:10,230 S2: the same breath that would feel like success to me. Um, 850 00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:11,989 S2: I just want to be faithful to God and leave 851 00:45:11,989 --> 00:45:13,950 S2: the results in his hands. But those are the some 852 00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:15,910 S2: of the things that I've been praying for with this 853 00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:16,870 S2: particular record. 854 00:45:17,590 --> 00:45:21,350 S1: I love it, and it comes through loudly, clearly. There's 855 00:45:21,350 --> 00:45:25,830 S1: even a an old hymn, just a couple of lines. 856 00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:29,709 S1: An interlude of Jesus paid it all in here. I 857 00:45:29,710 --> 00:45:31,950 S1: really love that. That's that's really cool. 858 00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:34,350 S2: And I, you know, I was, uh, there was a 859 00:45:34,350 --> 00:45:36,910 S2: time when I was at a church, um, where we, 860 00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:39,110 S2: you know, there were no drums. It was very different. 861 00:45:39,110 --> 00:45:40,830 S2: The music was very different than what I was used to. 862 00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:44,470 S2: And we sang mostly old hymns. And I got a 863 00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:48,509 S2: deep education in that and a deep appreciation for some 864 00:45:48,510 --> 00:45:51,750 S2: of these old hymns that were rich theologically and that 865 00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:55,390 S2: spoke about both trials and the beauty of God and 866 00:45:55,390 --> 00:45:58,350 S2: the saving grace of Jesus. Jesus Paid it all is 867 00:45:58,350 --> 00:46:00,000 S2: one of my favorites. And, you know, know, if I 868 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,120 S2: keep making these worship projects, which I know there's at 869 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,120 S2: least another one on the way, um, then I would 870 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,840 S2: love to keep introducing some of those old hymns that 871 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,600 S2: have blessed me. 872 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,440 S1: Keep doing what you're doing, friends. Keep sharing your heart 873 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,560 S1: and surrendering open handed. I can just tell. And the 874 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,160 S1: music we will commend to folks. If you go to 875 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,960 S1: Chris Fabry live org, we've got the link right there 876 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,240 S1: to the new EP. Thank you for sharing with us today, 877 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,720 S1: trip and spending the time. 878 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,320 S2: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. 879 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,120 S1: Again. Go to Chris Fabry live and you'll see the 880 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:39,120 S1: new EP For Your Glory from Tripoli and Friends as 881 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,480 S1: they relive our program's production of Moody Radio, a ministry 882 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,200 S1: of Moody Bible Institute. Thanks for listening.