1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,640 S1: He's back and he has some help and hope. For 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,800 S1: those of us who are constantly plagued by the negative 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,440 S1: talk in our heads, the sabotaging self-talk. How do we 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,960 S1: overcome those powerful voices inside that cause us to doubt, 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,639 S1: to waffle, to fear, to lash out in anger? My 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,120 S1: audio compadre, John Gieger, says the best antidote is God's Word, 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,600 S1: and he's taken a trip through the Psalms to help 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,680 S1: us change our mindset to agree with God about ourselves, 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,320 S1: rather than listen to the nattering nabobs of negativity that 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,000 S1: might reside there. Here's my question to you today. What 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,600 S1: self-talk sentence do you need to silence today? What is 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,240 S1: the negative voice inside you saying? I have some responses 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,440 S1: to that already, but I want to hear from you 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,600 S1: and John's going to help us both out. Here's the 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:08,230 S1: number 5483675. Call early call often. (877) 548-3675. Put another way, 16 00:01:08,270 --> 00:01:12,069 S1: what negative thought keeps returning. What do you need to 17 00:01:12,110 --> 00:01:19,310 S1: stop saying to yourself? Eight. 775483675. We begin with a 18 00:01:19,310 --> 00:01:22,030 S1: thank you to our team. Ryan McConaughey doing all things technical. 19 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:25,910 S1: Trish is our producer. Lisa is doing things technicals today. 20 00:01:26,350 --> 00:01:29,550 S1: Josh will be answering your calls. And here he is. 21 00:01:29,550 --> 00:01:33,710 S1: John Gager serves Moody Radio as writer producer, nationally syndicated 22 00:01:33,709 --> 00:01:38,870 S1: radio host, award winning audiobook narrator. He's a journalist. He's 23 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:42,110 S1: a speaker. He's traveled more than 40 countries. He's the 24 00:01:42,110 --> 00:01:44,830 S1: author of such books as if I Could Do It 25 00:01:44,830 --> 00:01:49,590 S1: All Over Again, and Kids Say the Wisest Things. His 26 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:52,309 S1: latest is our Thank You. Right now, if you support 27 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:54,430 S1: this program with a gift of any size, we're going 28 00:01:54,430 --> 00:01:59,060 S1: to send you powerful self-talk from the Psalms. We've been 29 00:01:59,060 --> 00:02:01,980 S1: given away all this month, and I'd like to put 30 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:03,900 S1: one in your hands. You can find out how to 31 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:05,940 S1: do that and how to give a gift at Chris 32 00:02:05,980 --> 00:02:09,220 S1: Fabry live.org. John welcome back. How are you doing today? 33 00:02:09,260 --> 00:02:11,500 S2: Hey, it's great to be back here in the backyard 34 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:14,220 S2: radio fence or radio backyard. I always get it wrong, 35 00:02:14,220 --> 00:02:15,660 S2: but I'm glad to be here. Chris. 36 00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:16,820 S1: It's the fence. It's just. 37 00:02:17,020 --> 00:02:17,419 S2: The fence. 38 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:20,220 S1: Belly up to the fence and let's have a conversation. Okay, 39 00:02:20,419 --> 00:02:23,299 S1: so the book was out in January. I had you 40 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:26,660 S1: on then. I liked it so much. I thought, my listeners, 41 00:02:26,660 --> 00:02:28,460 S1: I want to put this in their hands because I 42 00:02:28,460 --> 00:02:31,339 S1: think it can really make a difference. Uh, what kind 43 00:02:31,340 --> 00:02:33,260 S1: of feedback? What are people saying to you? 44 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:35,980 S2: Well, I think they're saying things like, boy, this is 45 00:02:35,980 --> 00:02:39,820 S2: where I'm at. I say so many self-condemning self judging 46 00:02:39,820 --> 00:02:42,619 S2: things to myself. Thank God for the Psalms. Uh, some 47 00:02:42,620 --> 00:02:44,859 S2: of them are saying, I'm glad the chapters are short. 48 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:48,419 S2: And I go, whoa, wait a minute. And then they clarify, 49 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:50,260 S2: you know, it, it helps me because I can pick 50 00:02:50,260 --> 00:02:52,380 S2: it up at any time. And they are short. They're, 51 00:02:52,419 --> 00:02:56,060 S2: they're short by intention. I think I'm part Add. So 52 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:59,850 S2: that helps. So we're hearing things that people are learning 53 00:02:59,850 --> 00:03:03,690 S2: that they can to claim these snatches and verses and 54 00:03:03,690 --> 00:03:06,970 S2: phrases of the Psalms, to speak to their own negative self-talk. 55 00:03:07,130 --> 00:03:09,170 S1: You know, what I like about it as well is 56 00:03:09,169 --> 00:03:11,690 S1: it's kind of like Doctor Rudnick's book about the 50 57 00:03:11,730 --> 00:03:15,650 S1: most asked questions. It's like these these 20 questions right here. 58 00:03:15,650 --> 00:03:17,730 S1: I don't have a problem. But this one over here 59 00:03:17,930 --> 00:03:20,369 S1: and I, it's the same kind of thing here. I 60 00:03:20,370 --> 00:03:23,490 S1: see the self-talk that I have a problem with, a 61 00:03:23,490 --> 00:03:26,250 S1: struggle with, and I can find that chapter and go 62 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:26,850 S1: to it. 63 00:03:26,850 --> 00:03:29,370 S2: Yeah, the book is is relevant because we all struggle 64 00:03:29,370 --> 00:03:32,690 S2: with this negative self-talk you're talking about, Chris. We allow 65 00:03:32,690 --> 00:03:37,490 S2: our minds to be bombarded with the wrong things, unbiblical messages. 66 00:03:37,810 --> 00:03:40,890 S2: And you think about the research. 42.5 million Americans suffer 67 00:03:40,890 --> 00:03:46,130 S2: from anxiety. 29% have been diagnosed with depression. That says, 68 00:03:46,130 --> 00:03:47,970 S2: we got a problem here. And I think the problem 69 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:52,810 S2: is us. It's our allowance of these ungodly unbiblical thoughts 70 00:03:52,810 --> 00:03:55,610 S2: into our minds. You know, that we can't control necessarily 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,920 S2: what creeps in, but we don't have to give it 72 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,720 S2: a free pass. I think it's, uh, I think of 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,680 S2: the guy who said it, but our minds are sort 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,560 S2: of like an airport. We're we're the air traffic controller. 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,600 S2: Max Lucado says we can allow those flights in and 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,440 S2: we can determine who goes out. And so we need 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,760 S2: to be better at being more vigilant in maintaining what 78 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,080 S2: we allow in and out of our our thought life. 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,520 S1: It's one of those questions about, you know, does the 80 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,360 S1: devil insert thoughts into my mind? And I the more 81 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,039 S1: the longer I live, the more I think he doesn't 82 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,000 S1: need any help from me. I do all the work myself. 83 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,840 S1: He doesn't have to whisper to me. And that's part 84 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,560 S1: of the problem. So define that. When you say self-talk, what? 85 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,839 S1: What are you actually talking about? 86 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,360 S2: Self-Talk is that nonstop 24 over seven stream of thinking 87 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,880 S2: that you don't have to subscribe to? Did I tell you, Chris, that, 88 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,440 S2: you know, all these subscription based services, our granddaughter Emma 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,159 S2: and Ava, they were over recently and, and they're listening 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,800 S2: to Alexa and Alexa says, you know, if you'd like 91 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,270 S2: this song and the others like it. Why? We can 92 00:04:56,270 --> 00:04:58,910 S2: provide them for you with a subscription of 7.99 a month. 93 00:04:58,910 --> 00:05:01,710 S2: Would you like a trial subscription? And Ava says, of 94 00:05:01,710 --> 00:05:05,870 S2: course we would. She signed us up. But you don't 95 00:05:05,870 --> 00:05:09,070 S2: have to sign up for self-talk. It just is. It's 96 00:05:09,070 --> 00:05:11,230 S2: neither bad nor good, but it is there. And we 97 00:05:11,230 --> 00:05:14,350 S2: can't stop it. But we can train it. We can't 98 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:17,550 S2: control it. We can't answer back to those negative thoughts 99 00:05:17,550 --> 00:05:21,309 S2: that again, are neither godly nor helpful. And they come 100 00:05:21,310 --> 00:05:22,429 S2: every single day. 101 00:05:22,589 --> 00:05:25,510 S1: So what you're talking about then is something that I've 102 00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:28,310 S1: talked about here in the last couple of years. It's 103 00:05:28,510 --> 00:05:32,350 S1: if you focus on the outcome and you have another 104 00:05:32,350 --> 00:05:35,630 S1: negative thought, you'll think, oh, I'm a failure. And that's 105 00:05:35,630 --> 00:05:38,870 S1: stinking thinking right there. But if you focus on the process, 106 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:42,630 S1: I am in the process of allowing God to retrain 107 00:05:42,670 --> 00:05:47,310 S1: my brain. Then if you come up with a negative 108 00:05:47,310 --> 00:05:51,630 S1: thought and you recognize it, you're that's a win, right? 109 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:54,809 S2: Absolutely. That's a win. I think we give too little 110 00:05:54,810 --> 00:05:57,890 S2: credence to those wins, too little value to them, and 111 00:05:57,890 --> 00:06:00,650 S2: put too much emphasis on the struggle that we're in 112 00:06:00,650 --> 00:06:03,410 S2: or the mistakes that we made. But every time we 113 00:06:03,410 --> 00:06:06,610 S2: can stop and learn to kind of assess what is 114 00:06:06,610 --> 00:06:10,330 S2: this threat, what is happening here? And better yet, what's 115 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:13,490 S2: a biblical response? Now we're on the right track. 116 00:06:13,529 --> 00:06:16,330 S1: Yeah, that's John Gager. I'd love to hear from you. 117 00:06:16,370 --> 00:06:19,730 S1: What is it that you need to stop saying to yourself? 118 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:23,650 S1: What do you say most often during the day? And 119 00:06:23,650 --> 00:06:27,690 S1: maybe it happens when you first get up in the morning. Oh, no, 120 00:06:27,730 --> 00:06:31,169 S1: I'm getting up late. You know, you're having that negative stuff. 121 00:06:31,410 --> 00:06:35,730 S1: Is there a self-talk sentence that you need to silence? 122 00:06:35,890 --> 00:06:38,010 S1: John's going to help you out today. He's going to 123 00:06:38,010 --> 00:06:47,650 S1: help me out. Here's the number 87754836758775483675. There have been 124 00:06:47,650 --> 00:06:50,570 S1: a number of people who've answered this on Facebook, and 125 00:06:50,570 --> 00:06:55,120 S1: I'll keep her anonymous here. But she said this and 126 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,280 S1: it really hurt me when I read this. It hurt 127 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,760 S1: me for her. She says I am worthless because I 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,640 S1: am disabled. Now just sit with that for a minute. 129 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,960 S1: I am worthless because I am disabled now. It's the 130 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,080 S1: second half of that's true. I'm disabled, you know, that's 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,920 S1: that's the situation that she finds herself in. So that's true. 132 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,280 S1: But the I am worthless part is what I want 133 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,360 S1: you to talk with her about. What would you say 134 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,160 S1: to her? Where would you take her in the song? 135 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,120 S2: Well, it's easy for somebody like me who walks and 136 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,720 S2: runs to say otherwise. But the truth of the matter is, 137 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,679 S2: Psalm 139 has no exception clauses. I am fearfully and 138 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,840 S2: wonderfully made. It says. It doesn't say those of us 139 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,480 S2: who are mobile are fearfully and wonderfully made. I am 140 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,800 S2: fearfully and wonderfully made. So any person with any kind 141 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,750 S2: of challenge, impairment or disability is still fearfully and wonderfully made, 142 00:07:52,750 --> 00:07:55,830 S2: and not one whit less than any of the rest 143 00:07:55,830 --> 00:07:59,990 S2: of us. So that's step one. Stop one. I think 144 00:07:59,990 --> 00:08:02,750 S2: we have to also realize. Stop two. Step two. Maybe 145 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:04,870 S2: that this is a lie of the enemy and he 146 00:08:04,870 --> 00:08:08,270 S2: loves it. It's one of his. It's his greatest hit. 147 00:08:08,310 --> 00:08:11,390 S2: You're not. You're not worth anything. You're worthless because you 148 00:08:11,390 --> 00:08:15,350 S2: can't do this. And all of us know this song. 149 00:08:15,390 --> 00:08:18,910 S2: I mean, there are a thousand different sound alikes. You know, 150 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:22,550 S2: I get my worth when I'm productive, when I'm this, 151 00:08:22,590 --> 00:08:26,350 S2: when I'm that. Know our self-worth comes from God himself. 152 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:29,550 S2: We're made in his image. And you right now, whatever 153 00:08:29,550 --> 00:08:32,630 S2: the physical condition of your body is, you're fearfully and 154 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:35,870 S2: wonderfully made. Let's start there. Let's park there. 155 00:08:36,710 --> 00:08:41,390 S1: So you use Psalm 139. I'm going one Psalm back 156 00:08:41,390 --> 00:08:44,270 S1: from that, and I want you to get involved here 157 00:08:44,270 --> 00:08:47,910 S1: as well. This person who said, I'm worthless because I'm disabled, 158 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:55,660 S1: what would you say to her. (877) 548-3675. Psalm 138. The 159 00:08:55,660 --> 00:09:00,340 S1: last verse, verse eight says, the Lord will fulfill his 160 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:04,300 S1: purpose for me. And if Ephesians two eight and nine 161 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:07,820 S1: are true, God has prepared in advance. Good thing, good 162 00:09:07,820 --> 00:09:12,220 S1: works for her to do. Um, that he's, that he's 163 00:09:12,220 --> 00:09:14,980 S1: going to empower her to do. And the Lord is 164 00:09:14,980 --> 00:09:18,780 S1: going to fulfill his purpose for your life in the 165 00:09:18,780 --> 00:09:22,300 S1: middle of your disability. And I would say not in 166 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:25,940 S1: spite of your disability, but maybe even using, I think 167 00:09:25,940 --> 00:09:28,780 S1: of Johnny Erickson. Tada! And, you know, and her voice. 168 00:09:28,980 --> 00:09:32,860 S1: God can use whatever it is that has washed into 169 00:09:32,860 --> 00:09:35,540 S1: your life for his glory. Do you agree, John? 170 00:09:35,580 --> 00:09:37,939 S2: Oh, I'm so glad you brought up Johnny. Tada! But, 171 00:09:37,940 --> 00:09:40,699 S2: you know, even Paul himself had a thorn in the flesh. 172 00:09:40,700 --> 00:09:44,300 S2: He had something there. Everybody has an impairment, a challenge 173 00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:47,059 S2: of some kind. And that's not to minimize somebody who 174 00:09:47,059 --> 00:09:50,170 S2: is a quadriplegic, but I'm just saying we're in a 175 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:52,890 S2: in a similar way, we're all in something of that 176 00:09:52,890 --> 00:09:55,850 S2: same boat. So we need to recognize that and take 177 00:09:55,850 --> 00:09:58,730 S2: courage in the fact that our God says we have 178 00:09:58,730 --> 00:10:02,010 S2: worth and value. And as you quoted from that lovely Psalm, 179 00:10:02,010 --> 00:10:04,650 S2: he will perform that which he has planned for us. 180 00:10:04,650 --> 00:10:07,850 S1: He will. Do not forsake the work of your hands, 181 00:10:07,850 --> 00:10:09,930 S1: is how that ends then. All right, so here's the 182 00:10:09,929 --> 00:10:16,330 S1: number (877) 548-3675. I'd love to hear your response. What would 183 00:10:16,330 --> 00:10:18,650 S1: you say to the person who says I'm worthless because 184 00:10:18,650 --> 00:10:21,890 S1: I'm disabled? Or is there some kind of thing that 185 00:10:21,890 --> 00:10:24,449 S1: you're saying to yourself? Is there a sentence you're saying 186 00:10:24,490 --> 00:10:27,130 S1: to yourself and you're trying to stop it, and you 187 00:10:27,130 --> 00:10:31,050 S1: don't know how? John Gager is here. Powerful self-talk from 188 00:10:31,050 --> 00:10:34,650 S1: the Psalms is our featured resource, and it's our gift 189 00:10:34,650 --> 00:10:37,530 S1: to you. If you support the Chris Fabry Live, if 190 00:10:37,530 --> 00:10:40,530 S1: you support this program, I'd love to send you a copy. 191 00:10:40,770 --> 00:10:42,689 S1: You can go to the website and find out how. 192 00:10:42,730 --> 00:10:50,480 S1: Chris fabry.org. Chris Five dot ORG. 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And I'm asking 204 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,079 S1: you to respond to the question today as well. What 205 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,360 S1: is it that you're saying to yourself that you need 206 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,959 S1: to stop? I'm going to get to your calls. I 207 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,270 S1: understand that there's a time when you went into the 208 00:11:47,270 --> 00:11:50,670 S1: cockpit of a 747 to have an interview. John. 209 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:54,790 S2: Yeah. Years ago, my dad had connections with a 747 pilot. 210 00:11:54,830 --> 00:11:59,030 S2: Now for the aeroplane challenged folks. That's that's the Air 211 00:11:59,030 --> 00:12:01,790 S2: Force One model that our presidents fly in with the 212 00:12:01,830 --> 00:12:04,550 S2: double decker thing up in the front. And what a 213 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:07,110 S2: cool thing to sit in that cockpit, Chris, with all 214 00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:11,550 S2: those buttons and knobs and and thrusters and so on. 215 00:12:11,870 --> 00:12:13,590 S2: And I said to the guy, can I, can I 216 00:12:13,590 --> 00:12:16,189 S2: play with any of these buttons? He said, help yourself. 217 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:18,710 S2: So I just pulled on one at random and this 218 00:12:18,710 --> 00:12:22,750 S2: is what I heard. Glide slope. Pull up, glide slope. 219 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:25,790 S2: Pull up. I said, what's that all about? He says, well, 220 00:12:25,790 --> 00:12:28,110 S2: that that alarm is going off right now because we're 221 00:12:28,110 --> 00:12:30,590 S2: too close to the ground. If this were an actual 222 00:12:30,590 --> 00:12:34,070 S2: air flight. That warning is saying you're heading down at 223 00:12:34,070 --> 00:12:36,590 S2: too fast an angle and you're going to crash unless 224 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:40,110 S2: you pull up glide slope, pull up. And I think 225 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:42,790 S2: for for all of us, the Word of God is 226 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:46,340 S2: that that warning bell, That glide slope. Pull up. You 227 00:12:46,340 --> 00:12:49,340 S2: know we can't control again the thoughts that necessarily introduce 228 00:12:49,340 --> 00:12:53,500 S2: themselves waft through our minds. But once they're there, we can. 229 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:56,380 S2: And we better address them. We better, as that warning said, 230 00:12:56,380 --> 00:12:59,020 S2: pull up. And I think we can do that. When 231 00:12:59,020 --> 00:13:01,780 S2: we reach for the powerful self-talk we get from the Psalms, Chris. 232 00:13:02,220 --> 00:13:06,699 S1: And the neural pathways that we have, I am constantly 233 00:13:06,740 --> 00:13:09,540 S1: I'll go back and listen to programs that I've done 234 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:12,860 S1: ten years ago and think, we should re-air this again, 235 00:13:13,220 --> 00:13:16,900 S1: and I'll listen to something that the. The guest said 236 00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:20,179 S1: ten years ago that I didn't remember. And as soon 237 00:13:20,179 --> 00:13:25,020 S1: as the guest would say, you know, X, I would think, oh, 238 00:13:25,220 --> 00:13:28,620 S1: that reminds me of the. And before I've even finished 239 00:13:28,620 --> 00:13:32,219 S1: the thought, I begin saying the same thing. 240 00:13:32,260 --> 00:13:32,620 S2: Wow. 241 00:13:32,740 --> 00:13:36,020 S1: From ten years ago. And it's like or, or I 242 00:13:36,059 --> 00:13:39,380 S1: will look at, you know, a story that I've written 243 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:42,179 S1: or listen. Sometimes I'll listen to my the books that 244 00:13:42,179 --> 00:13:44,290 S1: I've written and I'll think, oh, I should have added 245 00:13:44,290 --> 00:13:47,530 S1: this in there, and then it'll be there because I've 246 00:13:47,530 --> 00:13:50,490 S1: got this way of thinking, this pattern of thinking, which 247 00:13:50,490 --> 00:13:53,450 S1: can be good or bad. I've got this way of 248 00:13:53,450 --> 00:13:57,449 S1: thinking that gets me on this track and inserts the 249 00:13:57,450 --> 00:14:00,530 S1: very thing that comes to mind in a lot of 250 00:14:00,530 --> 00:14:04,569 S1: different ways from my from my childhood, from formative years. 251 00:14:04,770 --> 00:14:07,210 S1: And again, that can be a really good thing. Or 252 00:14:07,210 --> 00:14:09,890 S1: it can be a really bad thing if it's negative. Right. 253 00:14:10,410 --> 00:14:13,370 S2: And so when we come to a psalm like Psalm 27, 254 00:14:13,410 --> 00:14:17,209 S2: verse one says, the Lord is my light and my salvation. 255 00:14:17,210 --> 00:14:19,850 S2: Whom shall I fear? You know, right there that is 256 00:14:19,850 --> 00:14:23,610 S2: a that is a altitude adjusting moment for us. We're 257 00:14:23,610 --> 00:14:26,690 S2: pulling up. The Lord is my light and my salvation. 258 00:14:26,810 --> 00:14:29,330 S2: In other words, there's no need to fear. Whom should 259 00:14:29,330 --> 00:14:31,210 S2: I fear? No one. The Lord is the strength of 260 00:14:31,210 --> 00:14:34,130 S2: my life. And so the Word of God has a 261 00:14:34,130 --> 00:14:37,170 S2: way of getting us back up into the clouds where 262 00:14:37,170 --> 00:14:40,490 S2: we belong spiritually. But it doesn't happen unless we reach 263 00:14:40,490 --> 00:14:44,080 S2: for it, claim it, own it, personalize it, quote it intentionally. 264 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,960 S1: You got to be intentional with this. That's right. And 265 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,560 S1: that's what this that's what I love about this book, 266 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,280 S1: Powerful Self-Talk from the Psalms. That's why I chose it 267 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,120 S1: this month to give to anybody who supports us. Go 268 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:59,560 S1: to the website Chris dot Mattson Indianapolis. Hi, Matt. Why 269 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,600 S1: did you call today? 270 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,120 S3: Hey, how are you doing? Um, yeah, the main thing is, 271 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,320 S3: is I feel like the Lord has recently put me 272 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,720 S3: through a similar I call it my road to Damascus. 273 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,160 S3: It was kind of like a the scales coming off 274 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,920 S3: of my eyes. And it really kind of dealt with this, uh, 275 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,800 S3: subject a little bit, which was he really reminded me 276 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,480 S3: to like, stop gaslighting myself, you know what I mean? 277 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,280 S3: It's like that becomes the easiest person that we start to, 278 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,200 S3: we start to tell those little justified deceptions as we 279 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,440 S3: go through our lives and these little white lies. And 280 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,750 S3: the thing is, is that the one that we really 281 00:15:40,750 --> 00:15:43,430 S3: need to work on first is, is that reflection in 282 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:45,710 S3: the mirror? And so one of the things that he 283 00:15:45,750 --> 00:15:49,750 S3: had told me about was, um, the using the word good, 284 00:15:49,950 --> 00:15:52,310 S3: you know, somebody, oh, he's a good guy. He's a 285 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:55,510 S3: good this, they're, they're a good that or you know, and, 286 00:15:55,550 --> 00:16:00,750 S3: and it brought me on to the, um, the, the, 287 00:16:00,750 --> 00:16:04,150 S3: the part in Matthew where, uh, the guy wants to 288 00:16:04,190 --> 00:16:06,989 S3: join up with Jesus and he calls him good rabbi 289 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:11,430 S3: and Jesus kind of like, you know, kind of has 290 00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:14,150 S3: that reply, like, who, who, who said that I'm good. 291 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:16,950 S3: Who says that I'm good? And you know that there's 292 00:16:16,950 --> 00:16:19,550 S3: only one that is good and that's the father. And 293 00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:22,790 S3: it really just resonated with me because, I mean, we 294 00:16:22,830 --> 00:16:26,390 S3: hear that so often and but yet we're comparing ourselves 295 00:16:26,390 --> 00:16:27,590 S3: to other sinners. 296 00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:32,510 S1: We can do that. We can do that so easily. 297 00:16:32,510 --> 00:16:34,670 S1: So let me make sure that I understand what you're 298 00:16:34,670 --> 00:16:40,140 S1: saying that you're, you're, um, you're taking that word good 299 00:16:40,140 --> 00:16:43,420 S1: and you're applying it to yourself and you're saying rather 300 00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:47,620 S1: than you're you're terrible, you're you're awful, you're good because 301 00:16:47,620 --> 00:16:49,540 S1: of what God has done in your life. 302 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:52,460 S3: Well, no, just that, just that we're, we're good because 303 00:16:52,460 --> 00:16:55,140 S3: of what we think that we do in our lives 304 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:58,300 S3: that we deserve. Or you know what I mean? That, 305 00:16:58,340 --> 00:17:00,940 S3: but but the fact is, is that we say that 306 00:17:00,940 --> 00:17:05,260 S3: to ourselves. And to me, that's so damaging because again, 307 00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:08,740 S3: it gives us that false sense of, of who we 308 00:17:08,740 --> 00:17:12,340 S3: really rely on. Yeah. That it isn't about self. 309 00:17:12,460 --> 00:17:14,980 S1: You've gone back to the identity thing, John. I think 310 00:17:14,980 --> 00:17:17,100 S1: that's what he's putting his finger on. Right? 311 00:17:17,900 --> 00:17:20,660 S2: Yeah, I think so. Because we we find our identity 312 00:17:20,660 --> 00:17:22,619 S2: in so many things that are not the right thing, 313 00:17:22,619 --> 00:17:25,300 S2: the one thing, and that's God himself and what he 314 00:17:25,340 --> 00:17:28,020 S2: has done for us through Jesus, whom he sent to 315 00:17:28,020 --> 00:17:29,620 S2: die on the cross for our sins. You know, when 316 00:17:29,619 --> 00:17:33,060 S2: we get that sort of a framework established and the 317 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:35,300 S2: kind of framework that we build on rather than these 318 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:38,730 S2: other lesser things, incorrect things, We're in a much more 319 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:41,410 S2: sturdier shape emotionally and spiritually. 320 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:45,010 S1: Yeah, but I've had different guests. I think it was 321 00:17:45,010 --> 00:17:48,010 S1: Robert Wolgemuth. I can still hear his voice. You're a 322 00:17:48,010 --> 00:17:50,370 S1: good man. Or somebody who said, you're a good man. 323 00:17:50,369 --> 00:17:53,730 S1: It's like, I'm going to believe that, you know, even 324 00:17:53,770 --> 00:17:56,770 S1: though there is all this that I could, I could 325 00:17:56,810 --> 00:18:01,770 S1: inform him that it would say, no, that I'm not good. 326 00:18:01,970 --> 00:18:05,410 S1: I'm going to believe this because he's speaking that into 327 00:18:05,490 --> 00:18:08,449 S1: my life, you know, and if I am in Christ, 328 00:18:08,690 --> 00:18:12,609 S1: and if Christ's righteousness is on me, then when the 329 00:18:12,609 --> 00:18:16,250 S1: father says that he delights in His son, you know 330 00:18:16,290 --> 00:18:18,689 S1: this is my son, whom I am well pleased, I 331 00:18:18,730 --> 00:18:23,890 S1: delight in him. Then that spills over onto me because 332 00:18:24,170 --> 00:18:26,330 S1: that's I'm in Christ, right? 333 00:18:26,369 --> 00:18:28,130 S2: Yeah. I love the Scripture that says, for he has 334 00:18:28,130 --> 00:18:31,530 S2: made him to be sin for us who knew no sin. 335 00:18:31,570 --> 00:18:34,609 S2: Now get this part two that we might be made 336 00:18:34,609 --> 00:18:38,350 S2: the righteousness of God in him we have that. We 337 00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:41,389 S2: are that not because of our attainment, because of our goodness, 338 00:18:41,390 --> 00:18:43,990 S2: because of our worth, but because of his goodness, as 339 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:46,870 S2: Matthew West puts it. It's not because I'm worthy, but 340 00:18:46,869 --> 00:18:49,950 S2: it's because he's good. He has given to us his 341 00:18:49,950 --> 00:18:53,430 S2: own righteousness. That means we have value. It means we 342 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:55,869 S2: have worth. And Chris Fabry, it means you are a 343 00:18:55,869 --> 00:18:56,510 S2: good man. 344 00:18:56,830 --> 00:18:59,950 S1: Thank you, thank you. And if you'll hang on, Matt, 345 00:18:59,950 --> 00:19:02,310 S1: because you're a good guy, too. I want to send 346 00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:06,030 S1: you a copy of this book, Powerful Self-Talk from the 347 00:19:06,030 --> 00:19:09,510 S1: Psalms by John Gager. It's our featured resource, and it's 348 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:11,630 S1: our thank you. Right now. If you give a gift 349 00:19:11,630 --> 00:19:13,989 S1: of any size. Easiest way to do it is go 350 00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:17,190 S1: to the website. Chris Fabry live.org. I'd love to hear 351 00:19:17,230 --> 00:19:19,470 S1: have your response to. When you fill out that form. 352 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:22,070 S1: There's a way to, to say a couple of words 353 00:19:22,270 --> 00:19:25,270 S1: and tell us what the program means to you, that 354 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:29,110 S1: today's program, we're just in the last few weeks or months. 355 00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:35,340 S1: Go to Chris Fabry live.org. Terry is in Birmingham, Alabama. Hi, Terry. 356 00:19:35,380 --> 00:19:36,140 S1: Go right ahead. 357 00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:40,140 S4: Hey, uh, I'm calling in reference to the lady that 358 00:19:40,140 --> 00:19:44,300 S4: said she felt like she was useless. Uh, my mother 359 00:19:44,300 --> 00:19:47,260 S4: gave me the same comment. Not, uh, just a few 360 00:19:47,260 --> 00:19:51,939 S4: weeks ago. She lives in an apartment with my sister, 361 00:19:52,420 --> 00:19:57,140 S4: and she's 98 years old, and she'll be 99 next month. 362 00:19:57,700 --> 00:20:02,379 S4: And I keep her supplied with Bibles, and she will 363 00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:06,140 S4: have maintenance men come in to make repairs on the, uh, 364 00:20:06,260 --> 00:20:08,500 S4: in the apartment, and she'll give them a Bible and 365 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:11,220 S4: share the gospel. And a few weeks ago she said, 366 00:20:11,220 --> 00:20:14,340 S4: I just feel so useless sitting here in this chair 367 00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:17,580 S4: all day. I can't get out and go anywhere to share. 368 00:20:17,820 --> 00:20:20,940 S4: And I said, mother, as long as you're faithful, you 369 00:20:20,980 --> 00:20:23,620 S4: keep giving those Bibles and keep sharing the gospel with 370 00:20:23,619 --> 00:20:26,979 S4: those maintenance men. God's going to bring the lost to you. 371 00:20:27,260 --> 00:20:29,379 S4: Just be faithful and he'll bring them to you. You 372 00:20:29,380 --> 00:20:31,379 S4: don't have to go looking for them. 373 00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:35,609 S1: I love it. You know what I love about that, Terry, 374 00:20:35,650 --> 00:20:39,530 S1: is you're helping her be supplied to. It's not just 375 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:42,170 S1: her doing this on her own. You're getting to be 376 00:20:42,170 --> 00:20:43,330 S1: a part of that, right? 377 00:20:44,130 --> 00:20:44,730 S4: Right. 378 00:20:45,330 --> 00:20:46,850 S1: Yeah. John, what do you think? 379 00:20:46,890 --> 00:20:50,490 S2: I love the the family effort here. As you said. 380 00:20:50,690 --> 00:20:53,570 S2: You know he's not there when those repairmen are. But 381 00:20:53,570 --> 00:20:56,810 S2: she is. She can't get the Bibles and things, but 382 00:20:56,810 --> 00:21:00,090 S2: he can. So they're working together. You know, Paul says, 383 00:21:00,609 --> 00:21:03,850 S2: what is it? Apollos watered. I planted the seed. However 384 00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:06,369 S2: it went. So it's all part of the same team, 385 00:21:06,369 --> 00:21:08,530 S2: all heading toward the same thing. So we all do 386 00:21:08,530 --> 00:21:11,810 S2: have worth, dignity, value in the eyes of God who 387 00:21:11,810 --> 00:21:14,330 S2: has given us his righteousness through Jesus. 388 00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:17,690 S1: Terry, what is your mom's name? 389 00:21:18,690 --> 00:21:20,730 S4: Ruby RUBYE. 390 00:21:20,770 --> 00:21:23,330 S1: Are you kidding? Oh, I love it. Uh, okay, so 391 00:21:23,330 --> 00:21:25,290 S1: here's what I'm going to do. You hang on. Trisha's 392 00:21:25,290 --> 00:21:27,210 S1: going to get your information. I'm going to send you 393 00:21:27,210 --> 00:21:30,130 S1: a copy of this powerful self-talk from the Psalms, and 394 00:21:30,130 --> 00:21:32,370 S1: I want you to give it to Ruby for us. Okay? 395 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,160 S1: All right. There's Terry, and we're going to send him 396 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,520 S1: a copy of Powerful Self-Talk from the Psalms. CAS is 397 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,520 S1: in Florida. Hi, cas. Why did you call today? 398 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,360 S3: Hey, how. 399 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,000 S5: You doing, guys? Uh, I just have a quick question. Um, 400 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:58,840 S5: how do you get over, like, uh, a negative talk from, like, uh, parents, 401 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:04,720 S5: maybe from, uh, like growing up and then, uh, into adulthood? 402 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,879 S1: Yeah. How old were you when they said these kinds 403 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,520 S1: of things to you? Were you just a little little kid? 404 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,600 S5: Oh, from. Yeah, from the. From the beginning. 405 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:15,840 S2: Yeah. 406 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,600 S1: And what types of things did you hear from them? 407 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,920 S1: What what did you what did you hear? 408 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,679 S5: Oh, just a bunch of negative stuff, you know, basically, 409 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,719 S5: you know, you're not worth this. Not worth that. 410 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:34,470 S1: Yeah. Yeah. That's that is can be so ingrained in 411 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:37,190 S1: your heart and your soul, and it follows you because 412 00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:39,590 S1: you not only hear your own voice, but you'll hear 413 00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:45,510 S1: your mother's voice or your father or, you know, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, whatever. John, 414 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:46,190 S1: what do you say? 415 00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:48,629 S2: I think it's sad and I think it's true. And 416 00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:51,830 S2: I think it happens, happens a lot. And so so 417 00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:54,430 S2: we have to say, okay, now what? That's why Cass 418 00:22:54,430 --> 00:22:58,150 S2: is called the now what is we have to not 419 00:22:58,150 --> 00:23:03,030 S2: stew in in this bath of of negativity, we have 420 00:23:03,030 --> 00:23:05,750 S2: to intake something that's much more powerful. That's the word 421 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:08,590 S2: of God itself, the Word of God, sharper than any 422 00:23:08,590 --> 00:23:11,109 S2: two edged sword. And so and so we want to 423 00:23:11,109 --> 00:23:13,909 S2: turn to other things like the Psalms. And so we 424 00:23:13,910 --> 00:23:16,230 S2: say things like Psalm 34, verse one, I will bless 425 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:20,229 S2: the Lord at all times. His praise shall continually be 426 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:23,389 S2: in my mouth. The weird thing is, when we quote 427 00:23:23,390 --> 00:23:26,950 S2: that verse, even at those times, and especially at those 428 00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:30,219 S2: times when we least feel it, God has a way 429 00:23:30,220 --> 00:23:34,020 S2: of rearranging our emotions, bringing us joy, bringing us back 430 00:23:34,020 --> 00:23:37,619 S2: to himself. So I think the answer is we begin 431 00:23:37,619 --> 00:23:41,260 S2: taking in the Word of God, memorizing small portions of 432 00:23:41,260 --> 00:23:43,820 S2: it so we can reach for it, quote it when 433 00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:47,260 S2: those negative thoughts come back. That probably sounds oversimplified, Chris, 434 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:49,820 S2: but I think that's the basic strategy. 435 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:54,860 S1: Well, I was just looking up Psalm 685 that God 436 00:23:56,060 --> 00:24:00,300 S1: is father of the fatherless and protector of widows is 437 00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:03,940 S1: God in his holy habitation. And the things that your 438 00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:08,180 S1: parents said to you are not the things that God is, 439 00:24:08,220 --> 00:24:12,139 S1: is saying about you or doesn't want them to be. Cass. 440 00:24:12,540 --> 00:24:16,420 S1: And is there one in particular thing that kind of 441 00:24:16,420 --> 00:24:18,820 S1: sticks that kind of comes back to you? Is it 442 00:24:18,820 --> 00:24:21,900 S1: the worthless, that you're worthless, that kind of thing? Does 443 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:23,220 S1: that keep coming back to you? 444 00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:27,740 S5: Well, after, you know, uh, you know, I've already, you know, 445 00:24:27,780 --> 00:24:29,929 S5: went through to school. I was the first one in 446 00:24:29,930 --> 00:24:32,050 S5: my family to make it through college. I have a 447 00:24:32,050 --> 00:24:36,370 S5: master's degree. Uh, other people in my family have not. Uh, 448 00:24:36,369 --> 00:24:41,050 S5: I've done everything to prove them wrong, but for some reason, 449 00:24:41,050 --> 00:24:44,450 S5: it just keeps coming back. And it's affecting my career. 450 00:24:44,690 --> 00:24:48,330 S5: Like the choices I make. And I'm in my 50s now, 451 00:24:48,330 --> 00:24:52,210 S5: and it's, it's kind of tough. Um, you know, I 452 00:24:52,210 --> 00:24:53,850 S5: get to the point where I don't even want to 453 00:24:53,850 --> 00:24:58,689 S5: pray no more sometimes. Um, I just want to give up. 454 00:24:59,570 --> 00:25:02,250 S1: Well, you know, and, and I get that we had 455 00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:05,690 S1: a guest yesterday. Victoria was talking about that very thing 456 00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:08,330 S1: that she wanted to give up. And one of the 457 00:25:08,330 --> 00:25:12,530 S1: reasons why she was on this hamster wheel of performance 458 00:25:12,730 --> 00:25:15,610 S1: was because she wanted to prove all the doctors wrong 459 00:25:15,609 --> 00:25:18,369 S1: about what they had said about her. And it strikes 460 00:25:18,369 --> 00:25:22,570 S1: me that maybe you're doing the same thing, uh, Cass, 461 00:25:22,570 --> 00:25:25,330 S1: with your parents. You want to prove them wrong, and 462 00:25:25,330 --> 00:25:29,680 S1: you keep coming up against yourself and your own heart. John, 463 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,040 S1: I'm going to give you a chance to respond to that. But, Cass, 464 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,119 S1: hang on. I want to send you a copy of 465 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,280 S1: the book as well. Powerful self-talk from the Psalms Featured resource. 466 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,959 S1: And I thank you this month. Even today, if you 467 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,360 S1: go to Chris favorite.org. I'd love to send you a copy. 468 00:25:45,600 --> 00:26:06,720 S1: Go to chris.org. More straight ahead on Moody Radio. One 469 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,960 S1: of the things I love about radio is the immediacy 470 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,120 S1: of it, as well as the long term effects of it, 471 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,000 S1: because here we are. I'm talking with John Gager today 472 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:23,520 S1: about the Psalms and how the Psalms to ourselves, helps 473 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,230 S1: us quiet some of that negative self-talk that we give 474 00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:30,429 S1: ourselves the things that. Well, I'll read a few of 475 00:26:30,430 --> 00:26:34,350 S1: these on Facebook. I'm not good enough. You ever said that? 476 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:38,629 S1: I'm never good enough. Another person says, uh, Tina, a 477 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:41,790 S1: childhood friend of mine whose mom actually led my mom 478 00:26:41,790 --> 00:26:45,270 S1: to the Lord. Um, both of them have since passed away. 479 00:26:45,310 --> 00:26:48,750 S1: Tina says you're a mess. I'm constantly saying we are 480 00:26:48,750 --> 00:26:52,230 S1: a mess. Well, that might be true in a certain sense. 481 00:26:52,270 --> 00:26:55,470 S1: You know, you're going through struggles in life, but that's 482 00:26:55,470 --> 00:26:58,870 S1: not all true about you. And I know Tina knows that, 483 00:26:59,190 --> 00:27:02,270 S1: but the reason why I love this is it casts 484 00:27:02,270 --> 00:27:05,629 S1: calls in. He has been dealing John with this, these 485 00:27:05,630 --> 00:27:09,870 S1: voices from his childhood. And he's in his 50s now, 486 00:27:09,869 --> 00:27:13,950 S1: and it's still affecting him. What would you say to Cass? 487 00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:16,470 S2: I would take him to Psalm 68. In the book, 488 00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:18,910 S2: we look at a couple verses in a chapter we've 489 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:23,070 S2: titled A home for the Emotionally Homeless. And that kind 490 00:27:23,109 --> 00:27:24,820 S2: of feels to me a bit like where Cass cas 491 00:27:24,820 --> 00:27:29,220 S2: is at a home for the emotionally homeless. It says 492 00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:33,859 S2: this father of the fatherless and protector of widows is 493 00:27:33,859 --> 00:27:38,100 S2: God in his holy habitation. God settles the solitary in 494 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,860 S2: a home. He leads out the prisoners to prosperity, but 495 00:27:41,859 --> 00:27:45,580 S2: the rebellious dwell in a parched land. So without trying 496 00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:52,340 S2: to oversimplify, it feels cast like you are, um, uh, emotionally, uh, 497 00:27:52,340 --> 00:27:54,739 S2: a bit on your own. But God is in his 498 00:27:54,740 --> 00:27:58,700 S2: holy habitation. And he settles. Loves to settle the solitary 499 00:27:58,940 --> 00:28:01,340 S2: in a home leading out the prisoners. There's a sense 500 00:28:01,340 --> 00:28:04,340 S2: in which we're all prisoners to our negativity. He wants 501 00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:07,260 S2: to lead you out of that, to prosperity. Uh, not 502 00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:11,420 S2: financial prosperity, but spiritual wholeness. And he longs to do that. 503 00:28:11,420 --> 00:28:13,700 S2: And so I would point you to that psalm. It's 504 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:16,260 S2: a great a great rock, maybe for you at this time. 505 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:20,260 S1: Casts, uh, have you felt that way through your life 506 00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:22,419 S1: that you said you were the first to go to 507 00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:25,130 S1: college and you get a master's degree. And so you're 508 00:28:25,130 --> 00:28:30,450 S1: kind of on this performance track of getting on there. Um, 509 00:28:30,450 --> 00:28:33,770 S1: but have you felt like you're alone in this? I 510 00:28:33,810 --> 00:28:36,330 S1: got to do it myself. I've got to pull myself 511 00:28:36,330 --> 00:28:40,330 S1: up by my bootstraps. Has that kind of felt like 512 00:28:40,330 --> 00:28:41,530 S1: what you've been going through? 513 00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:49,330 S5: Yeah. Pretty much. Uh, yeah. I mean, basically, and I 514 00:28:49,330 --> 00:28:52,050 S5: have to show an example to others as well. My, uh, 515 00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:56,170 S5: my kids are already adults. So, um, uh, I got 516 00:28:56,170 --> 00:28:59,090 S5: a few of my, my other, some of my kids 517 00:28:59,090 --> 00:29:02,130 S5: are going to, uh, school, they're going to college. Uh, 518 00:29:02,130 --> 00:29:05,890 S5: they're getting their degrees a couple, but, uh, you know, 519 00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:09,730 S5: one one actually, but I'm sorry, because yeah, my other 520 00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:13,090 S5: two daughters, you know, they're just a little older, but it's, 521 00:29:13,090 --> 00:29:16,010 S5: it's like, uh, I have to try to set the example, 522 00:29:16,050 --> 00:29:19,250 S5: but at the same time, I'm not, I don't feel 523 00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:23,040 S5: like confident about things or where I'm, where I'm headed 524 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,840 S5: for the next 20 or 30 years with the remainder 525 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,600 S5: of my life as far as my confidence levels. Um, 526 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,160 S5: and I need to get, I need to have peace. 527 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,960 S5: I want peace. 528 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,960 S6: Mhm. Yes. 529 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,520 S5: And that's what I'm looking for is peace. Uh, and I, 530 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,560 S5: it's hard to find. 531 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,640 S1: And it's what I'm picking up from you. What I'm 532 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,520 S1: picking up from you is I live under the stress 533 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,680 S1: of having to perform and to do and to get 534 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,520 S1: things right. And I got to live in front of 535 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,360 S1: other people. And I've, you know, it's it's all on 536 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,280 S1: your shoulders and you're carrying a lot of weight. It 537 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,080 S1: sounds like. 538 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,400 S5: Yeah. And I just want to have peace in my 539 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,360 S5: life so I can have peace for others, give peace 540 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,280 S5: to others, and actually be a testimony one day. 541 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,080 S6: Yeah. Yeah. 542 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,600 S1: Well, you are just you being vulnerable here with us today. 543 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,200 S1: Your vulnerability that there's so many people who are listening, 544 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,480 S1: I guarantee you, Cass, who are in the same boat 545 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,580 S1: but wouldn't call, you know, for one reason or another. 546 00:30:21,580 --> 00:30:24,140 S1: Or maybe they're listening to this on the podcast and 547 00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:26,820 S1: you can't call, but here's what I want to do. 548 00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:29,340 S1: Call time out. John, I want you to pray for 549 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:31,180 S1: Kass in his situation today. 550 00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:35,220 S2: Let's join together across the the backyard fence here in prayer. Lord, 551 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:37,660 S2: we thank you for Kass for his courage and calling 552 00:30:37,660 --> 00:30:41,020 S2: for his honesty in painting the picture for us. But 553 00:30:41,020 --> 00:30:42,980 S2: we know that that's not the end of the story. 554 00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:48,100 S2: He's prayed for peace. And you've said this, that whoever 555 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:50,020 S2: calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved. 556 00:30:50,060 --> 00:30:53,100 S2: Kass is saved. Beyond that, you've said, cast all your 557 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:56,300 S2: cares upon him because he cares for you. And now 558 00:30:56,340 --> 00:30:59,180 S2: Chris and I and the rest of the family join 559 00:30:59,180 --> 00:31:01,460 S2: hands and hearts. And we pray that the peace of God, 560 00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:06,380 S2: which passes all understanding, would guard cas heart and mind 561 00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:09,140 S2: through Christ Jesus. And we pray it in the strong, 562 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:11,260 S2: mighty name of Jesus. Amen. 563 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:11,900 S6: Amen. 564 00:31:13,220 --> 00:31:15,060 S1: I'm going to give you one more a couple of 565 00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:19,500 S1: verses from Psalm 131. I want you to listen to this. Uh, 566 00:31:19,570 --> 00:31:22,850 S1: David writes, O Lord, my heart is not lifted up. 567 00:31:22,890 --> 00:31:26,250 S1: My eyes are not raised too high. I do not 568 00:31:26,290 --> 00:31:30,490 S1: occupy myself with things too great and too marvelous for me. 569 00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:36,610 S1: But I have calmed and quieted my soul like a 570 00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:40,690 S1: weaned child with its mother. Like a weaned child is 571 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:44,730 S1: my soul within me. And that's what we pray for 572 00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:47,690 S1: you today, that there would just be that quietness and 573 00:31:47,690 --> 00:31:52,490 S1: that assurance and that deep trust that God's got you. 574 00:31:52,570 --> 00:31:56,010 S1: And he's got all of this in control, and you 575 00:31:56,010 --> 00:31:58,930 S1: can trust him. You don't have to do this all 576 00:31:58,930 --> 00:32:02,050 S1: in your own power. Does that make sense, Cass? 577 00:32:02,770 --> 00:32:05,170 S5: Yes it does. And I thank you so much. And 578 00:32:05,170 --> 00:32:09,130 S5: I'm very grateful to you and the radio station as well. 579 00:32:09,690 --> 00:32:12,170 S1: God bless you, friend, and enjoy this book. We're going 580 00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:16,010 S1: to send it to you. Powerful self-talk from the Psalms. 581 00:32:16,130 --> 00:32:18,560 S1: I'm convinced, John, that there are people, a lot of 582 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,000 S1: people like Cass, who are saying a lot of these things, 583 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,800 S1: who just need to hear a little bit of encouragement, 584 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,120 S1: and it could be a game changer. Yeah. What do 585 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:27,440 S1: you think? 586 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,040 S2: Absolutely. Cass is simply the tip of the iceberg. So 587 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,240 S2: many of us wrestle with this sense of worthlessness, questioning 588 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,920 S2: our value, and as he put it, wanting a sense 589 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,560 S2: of peace. There's no peace when you're dominated by those 590 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,720 S2: kinds of thoughts. But thank God for the power of 591 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,200 S2: His Word. Thank God for the Psalms themselves. Got a 592 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,360 S2: quick story for you, Chris? 593 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,680 S1: Okay, wait. Before you do the the the enemy loves 594 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,400 S1: to keep you isolated too, because Cass could not have called. 595 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,600 S1: He could have just kept this to himself and kept 596 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,840 S1: on going. But being vulnerable. Like I said, our guest yesterday, 597 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,560 S1: Victoria was so vulnerable about all the things that she 598 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,760 S1: was going through, thought about taking her life, and she 599 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,360 S1: opened up and she told someone and just that act, 600 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,200 S1: taking that step was the, the thing that started the 601 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,590 S1: momentum of her seeing the truth about who she really was. 602 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:20,870 S1: And I pray the same thing for Cass. Okay. Tell 603 00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:21,510 S1: me the story. 604 00:33:21,550 --> 00:33:24,190 S2: So when we were kids, uh, there were four of 605 00:33:24,190 --> 00:33:27,110 S2: us in three years in our home for little boys. 606 00:33:27,550 --> 00:33:30,430 S2: And I'll never forget the Christmas time when dad got 607 00:33:30,430 --> 00:33:35,710 S2: these four little boys. A strombeck brand slot car racing set. 608 00:33:35,910 --> 00:33:38,190 S2: All right. A slot car. I mean, imagine a car 609 00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:41,510 S2: maybe 5 or 6in long. That's the scale, Chris. And 610 00:33:41,550 --> 00:33:43,750 S2: of course, you got two lanes going around this track. 611 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:45,590 S2: And what are little boys going to do with a 612 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:48,270 S2: race car track? They're going to take the controller and 613 00:33:48,270 --> 00:33:51,030 S2: they're going to shove the plunger all the way down 614 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:54,430 S2: full speed around that track. That's great along the straightaway. 615 00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:57,750 S2: But when you come to those curves. Whoa, baby. Eventually 616 00:33:57,750 --> 00:34:00,470 S2: the guardrails run out and those cars are just flipping 617 00:34:00,470 --> 00:34:04,350 S2: off the track. Chris, I think my dad spent most 618 00:34:04,350 --> 00:34:08,950 S2: of his Christmas vacation putting those stupid cars back on 619 00:34:08,989 --> 00:34:12,509 S2: the track. Patiently, lovingly. He did it wreck after wreck, 620 00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:16,740 S2: twist after, you know, twist. And and I think to myself, 621 00:34:16,739 --> 00:34:19,380 S2: that is something of a picture of our Heavenly Father 622 00:34:19,380 --> 00:34:22,820 S2: with the Word of God. It puts us back on 623 00:34:22,820 --> 00:34:26,419 S2: track spiritually. You know, we're busy. We're running a million 624 00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:28,700 S2: miles an hour. And and that's part of the reason 625 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:31,420 S2: we're off track. The other part is we're listening to 626 00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:33,859 S2: the wrong things. So we get off track. We, we 627 00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:38,180 S2: indulge those negative thoughts, that self-condemnation that comes along, and 628 00:34:38,180 --> 00:34:40,460 S2: then we're off track. But let the word of God 629 00:34:40,460 --> 00:34:42,979 S2: put you back on track as you learn to speak 630 00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:47,299 S2: powerful self-talk from the Psalms or any other passage of Scripture. 631 00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:51,300 S1: You know, there's so much noise around us. Yeah. John. 632 00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:55,340 S1: There's just this constant drumbeat of we talk about the 633 00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:59,020 S1: negative voices in here. You can see everything that's on 634 00:34:59,060 --> 00:35:01,940 S1: your on your feed is pretty much negative. You know, 635 00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:04,620 S1: the war is doing this and the gas prices are 636 00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:08,140 S1: here and everything, you know, hantavirus and all this. It's 637 00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:11,060 S1: like you listen to that. You need to quiet that 638 00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:14,180 S1: noise so that you can hear the truth. So you 639 00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:16,689 S1: get into the slot. The other thing that I learned 640 00:35:16,690 --> 00:35:19,489 S1: about those slot cars is there was usually one that 641 00:35:19,489 --> 00:35:23,530 S1: went faster than any of the other ones by design, 642 00:35:23,650 --> 00:35:27,370 S1: and I never got that one. It was for. 643 00:35:27,370 --> 00:35:29,810 S2: Boys. There was stiff competition for that one. 644 00:35:30,570 --> 00:35:34,610 S1: Uh, this is really good. And that's what you're hearing 645 00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:38,410 S1: here today is what I had hoped would happen with 646 00:35:38,410 --> 00:35:40,810 S1: this resource because I talked with John. Well, I got 647 00:35:40,810 --> 00:35:43,290 S1: to read it last year and I wrote a blurb 648 00:35:43,290 --> 00:35:47,529 S1: for the book. And when he came on in January, 649 00:35:47,530 --> 00:35:49,770 S1: I said, I really want our listeners to have a 650 00:35:49,770 --> 00:35:52,090 S1: copy of this. And so that's why I'm making it available. 651 00:35:52,090 --> 00:35:54,169 S1: If you give a gift of any size and many 652 00:35:54,170 --> 00:35:58,890 S1: of you responded today, go to the website, chris.org. Give 653 00:35:58,890 --> 00:36:01,410 S1: a gift of any size. We'll send you John's book, 654 00:36:01,450 --> 00:36:07,089 S1: Powerful Self-Talk from the Psalms, 40 days to a Biblical Mindset. 655 00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:10,170 S1: Just go to Chris Fabry live.org. Or if you'd like 656 00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:20,759 S1: to call, you can call 669558669532279, would love to put 657 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:34,400 S1: it in your hands today. So I asked on Facebook, 658 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,120 S1: what self talk sentence do you need to silence today? 659 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,279 S1: What negative thoughts keep returning to you. Let me just 660 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,440 S1: go through some of these. Linda says I don't matter 661 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,880 S1: to those around me. Uh, another. I'm not good enough. 662 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:54,120 S1: I failed and I'm behind instead of ahead. Diane says 663 00:36:54,120 --> 00:37:00,240 S1: no one cares. Uh. Why am I even here? I 664 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,720 S1: am not good enough. I'm lazy. Um, and then what 665 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,600 S1: our we started with I am worthless because I am disabled. 666 00:37:11,989 --> 00:37:14,709 S1: I asked, what would you say to that person? And 667 00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:16,750 S1: we've got a number of people still on the line. 668 00:37:16,750 --> 00:37:19,430 S1: So I want to go to Debbie in Cleveland, Ohio. Debbie, 669 00:37:19,469 --> 00:37:20,430 S1: why did you call? 670 00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:25,109 S7: Yes. Hi. I did want to address the lady that 671 00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:28,790 S7: thought she was worthless because she was in a wheelchair. 672 00:37:28,830 --> 00:37:30,150 S7: Can you guys hear me okay? 673 00:37:30,190 --> 00:37:30,870 S2: Sure can. 674 00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:34,390 S7: Oh, great. Great, great. So I just want to briefly 675 00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:39,270 S7: just share from my own experience, I have a sister 676 00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:43,550 S7: that's homeless. And so she's been homeless for about 17 years. 677 00:37:43,550 --> 00:37:48,910 S7: I mean, literally on the streets. And, um, I've been 678 00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:52,190 S7: a Christian for a long time. And over the years 679 00:37:52,469 --> 00:37:56,750 S7: I have prayed to God, I have fasted and I 680 00:37:56,790 --> 00:38:01,470 S7: have heard nothing about this, this topic with my sister, 681 00:38:01,469 --> 00:38:08,070 S7: nothing from God. And recently our mother passed away within 682 00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:11,380 S7: a year, and my sister and I had dinner together 683 00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:14,300 S7: for the first time in a very, very long time. 684 00:38:14,980 --> 00:38:18,780 S7: And we talked and she said, you know, she said, 685 00:38:18,820 --> 00:38:24,900 S7: I witnessed to homeless people and I never knew that. 686 00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:29,820 S7: So she, she worked with the church and she witnesses 687 00:38:30,219 --> 00:38:31,460 S7: to homeless people. 688 00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:31,860 S6: MM. 689 00:38:32,739 --> 00:38:39,540 S7: And I couldn't believe it. So the moral of the story, 690 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:46,700 S7: you don't know what God is doing with people. You cannot. Look, 691 00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:50,540 S7: I'm sure people have looked at my sister sleeping on 692 00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:55,340 S7: the street and thinking, oh, she's worthless. She's a bum. 693 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:59,740 S7: She's she's no good. And here God is, has been 694 00:38:59,739 --> 00:39:03,620 S7: using her to witness to homeless people. 695 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:06,180 S6: Those labels. 696 00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:10,130 S1: Those labels are so easy to put on other people. 697 00:39:10,130 --> 00:39:13,169 S1: And if we're being honest with ourselves, Debbie, they're easy 698 00:39:13,170 --> 00:39:17,810 S1: to put on ourselves. We label ourselves. Yes. And isn't 699 00:39:17,810 --> 00:39:20,050 S1: it just like God to kind of open your eyes 700 00:39:20,090 --> 00:39:24,330 S1: to that, just with a simple conversation dinner with your sister? 701 00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:29,170 S7: Right, right. Because I couldn't, I mean, I, I never 702 00:39:29,170 --> 00:39:31,690 S7: thought my sister was worthless or anything like that. She 703 00:39:31,690 --> 00:39:35,570 S7: brought me to Christ when I was 14 years old. But. 704 00:39:37,690 --> 00:39:42,890 S7: You know, I couldn't understand why God was not answering 705 00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:47,210 S7: my prayer. I'm your daughter. I am obedient as much 706 00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:49,370 S7: as I can be. I love you, I know you 707 00:39:49,370 --> 00:39:53,930 S7: love me. I could not understand why he did not 708 00:39:53,930 --> 00:39:58,290 S7: pull her off the street and take care of the situation. Yeah. 709 00:39:58,330 --> 00:40:03,050 S7: So here I find out 17 years later why she's 710 00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:05,690 S7: still on the street, at least from what I understand. 711 00:40:06,010 --> 00:40:06,810 S6: I'm so glad you. 712 00:40:06,810 --> 00:40:08,799 S1: Called and got through, John, what do you say to. 713 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,160 S6: That? 714 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,960 S2: Oh, I say amen. I love the fact that you're 715 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,680 S2: you're humbly acknowledging that God was at work all that 716 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,920 S2: time and also reminding us that, you know, we need 717 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,600 S2: to be real careful, as Chris has said about applying 718 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,400 S2: these labels, we love to do it never wise, never good. Because, hey, 719 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,400 S2: you know, people are doing that about us and we 720 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,239 S2: resent that. Let's treat others as we would be treated. 721 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,040 S2: As Jesus himself said. 722 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,400 S1: I've caught myself doing that. You know, labeling a person 723 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,160 S1: for political or social, cultural, spiritual stuff, you know, and 724 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,719 S1: it's like, I don't like people doing that to me. 725 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,840 S1: But what it does is it marginalizes it. It allows 726 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,920 S1: me not to have to think about that other person. 727 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,160 S2: Or. 728 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,160 S1: Care. Yeah. I put him in a box over there. 729 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,759 S1: And so I can put the lid on it and 730 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,719 S1: move on with my life. And it's like, no, I 731 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,400 S1: don't think that's that's the way it certainly wasn't the 732 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,880 S1: way that Jesus treated other people. I want to go 733 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,800 S1: to Claude before we end here today, Claude in Minnesota, 734 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,000 S1: why did you call Claude? 735 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,220 S8: Well, I've been listening to your program, and what was 736 00:41:10,219 --> 00:41:14,300 S8: my aha moment was I used to struggle with, uh, 737 00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:20,100 S8: what I call the consistent negativity. And I struggled with 738 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:24,420 S8: that for up until probably about six, seven months ago. 739 00:41:24,739 --> 00:41:28,020 S8: And I heard of the book, uh, the Life Changing 740 00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:33,540 S8: Art of self Brain surgery. And when I heard the interview, 741 00:41:33,580 --> 00:41:36,820 S8: I just felt like God was answering my prayer going, 742 00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:43,380 S8: this is where it's coming from. And to understand the 743 00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:47,580 S8: way God designed us and to realize that, yes, there 744 00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:51,420 S8: is a hope. He gave us hope. For me, it 745 00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:55,819 S8: gave me hope to change my my thinking. 746 00:41:57,020 --> 00:41:57,780 S6: Because we had doctor. 747 00:41:57,780 --> 00:42:00,580 S1: Lee Warren on to talk about that very thing. You probably, 748 00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:02,300 S1: if it was 6 or 7 months ago, you probably 749 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:06,089 S1: heard another program. But, um, you're right. And it goes 750 00:42:06,090 --> 00:42:10,009 S1: right along with what John is saying, because the what 751 00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:12,650 S1: Doctor Warren was talking about is the power of the 752 00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:16,089 S1: Scripture to get in and to change us from the 753 00:42:16,090 --> 00:42:19,009 S1: inside out. This is the Bible is not just a 754 00:42:19,010 --> 00:42:23,290 S1: book of words and and holy writ from way back when. 755 00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:26,330 S1: It is living and active, right? John? 756 00:42:26,330 --> 00:42:28,770 S2: The Word of God is quick and powerful, sharper than 757 00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:31,969 S2: any two edged sword, able to divide all the way 758 00:42:31,969 --> 00:42:34,450 S2: down to the level of the soul. And so with 759 00:42:34,450 --> 00:42:38,090 S2: that kind of power, how dare we ignore its input 760 00:42:38,090 --> 00:42:40,169 S2: into our own lives? You know, we're foolish to set 761 00:42:40,170 --> 00:42:43,689 S2: it aside when we could wield that power. Let's let's 762 00:42:43,730 --> 00:42:46,410 S2: be people of the word, not just reading it, but 763 00:42:46,410 --> 00:42:49,969 S2: ingesting it, memorizing it, pondering it, and reaching for it 764 00:42:49,969 --> 00:42:53,609 S2: when those negative self-talk kind of floats into our minds. 765 00:42:53,770 --> 00:42:56,049 S1: Claude, I'm glad you got Ahold of that book, and 766 00:42:56,050 --> 00:42:59,049 S1: I highly recommend it, and I'd love to put it 767 00:42:59,050 --> 00:43:01,930 S1: in your hands today, friend. A copy of John's book, 768 00:43:01,930 --> 00:43:05,680 S1: Powerful Self-Talk from the Psalms. again. All this month it's 769 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,759 S1: only the 12th of the month, but all this month 770 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,399 S1: we've been giving it and we'll continue that. But today 771 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,000 S1: would be a great day to go to the website. 772 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,120 S1: Chris Fabry live.org. Give a gift of any size, or 773 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,919 S1: you can call that number 86695. Fabry and we'll send 774 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,479 S1: it to you. John, let's end with this. You were 775 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,560 S1: in a couple of places in your life where you 776 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,239 S1: found I cannot live without this scripture. Tell me about. 777 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:32,359 S6: It. 778 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,680 S2: I'm a 15 year old boy in the hospital. I've 779 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,520 S2: had scoliosis surgery. That's curvature of the spine. I'm on 780 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,320 S2: a rotating bed. It's called a Stryker frame. Imagine two 781 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,080 S2: giant stainless steel hoops. Every four hours. You're moved from 782 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,640 S2: your stomach to your back for two weeks. The only 783 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,239 S2: problem is the mechanics. The motor went out. It had 784 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,719 S2: to be hand-cranked. And though I'm not a real big, 785 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,480 S2: heavy kind of guy, it was still a pain for 786 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,880 S2: the nurses to get in there and they. They tried 787 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,239 S2: to avoid my cry for help when it was four 788 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,230 S2: hours and I was in discomfort. Nonetheless, we got to 789 00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:05,109 S2: the end of this journey. It was the night before 790 00:44:05,110 --> 00:44:08,029 S2: I was going to get a body cast and they said, 791 00:44:08,030 --> 00:44:10,390 S2: now listen, your incision is going to is going to 792 00:44:10,430 --> 00:44:12,989 S2: really itch tonight. Now, mind you, it's two feet long. 793 00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:16,190 S2: You're cut open from your waist to your neck. And boy, 794 00:44:16,190 --> 00:44:18,830 S2: those words were true. And I started to scratch and 795 00:44:18,830 --> 00:44:20,910 S2: scratch some more. And the nurse came in and said, 796 00:44:20,910 --> 00:44:23,189 S2: what are you doing? Stop it! And the only way 797 00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:26,270 S2: I could stop Chris in the end, was to grab 798 00:44:26,270 --> 00:44:30,110 S2: the stainless steel tubes of that circular frame, quote every 799 00:44:30,110 --> 00:44:33,469 S2: word of God I'd ever memorized. And for the first time, 800 00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:37,550 S2: for the first time, I knew I needed the Bible. Well, 801 00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:40,069 S2: fast forward another 20 years later. I'm with former Moody 802 00:44:40,110 --> 00:44:43,310 S2: radio pastor Donald Cole. We're down in Angola, Africa. You 803 00:44:43,310 --> 00:44:47,830 S2: remember that, Chris? That was where he was a missionary. And, um, 804 00:44:48,110 --> 00:44:51,629 S2: I arrived safely with Pastor Cole, but none of my 805 00:44:51,630 --> 00:44:56,390 S2: luggage arrived. So all of the special shirts for the mosquitoes, 806 00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:59,990 S2: the Deet spray, the malaria pills that you had to have. 807 00:44:59,989 --> 00:45:03,020 S2: I didn't have one lick of it. And of course, 808 00:45:03,020 --> 00:45:07,100 S2: also gone missing forever was my Bible. Well, what do 809 00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,819 S2: you do? I mean, for the first couple of nights, 810 00:45:09,820 --> 00:45:12,180 S2: you're quoting every verse you ever learned as a kid 811 00:45:12,219 --> 00:45:15,540 S2: and Awana and Sunday school, but after that you go, boy, 812 00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:18,700 S2: I wish I'd learned more. Wish I'd memorized more. And 813 00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:23,820 S2: what about longer passages? I was so scarred that I. 814 00:45:23,860 --> 00:45:28,540 S2: I came home and started memorizing and have never turned back. 815 00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:32,140 S2: And eventually that focus turned toward the Psalms. Chris. And 816 00:45:32,140 --> 00:45:34,420 S2: God has just been such a great, great giver of 817 00:45:34,420 --> 00:45:37,860 S2: those wonderful verses, those Psalms. And I just want to 818 00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:42,299 S2: invite anybody listening. If you're wrestling with negative self-talk, the 819 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:44,940 S2: Psalms are a great place to camp out, hang out. 820 00:45:45,219 --> 00:45:48,420 S2: The Psalms are great verses to memorize. So pick one. 821 00:45:48,620 --> 00:45:52,100 S2: Pick a verse. Pick a chapter. Jump in. There's no 822 00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,500 S2: prizes for first place. Who cares if it takes you 823 00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:57,500 S2: a while? Just get at it and see what God 824 00:45:57,500 --> 00:46:01,090 S2: does as you look for powerful self-talk from the Psalms. 825 00:46:01,370 --> 00:46:06,089 S1: You will meet people in the Psalms, people like David 826 00:46:06,410 --> 00:46:10,050 S1: at the highest highs and the lowest lows, the depths 827 00:46:10,050 --> 00:46:14,090 S1: of his own sin, and then the forgiveness that comes 828 00:46:14,090 --> 00:46:18,410 S1: with confession. And that's one of the reasons why, John, 829 00:46:18,730 --> 00:46:21,290 S1: you were so passionate about this, why I think this 830 00:46:21,290 --> 00:46:24,450 S1: book is going to have a real change of heart 831 00:46:24,450 --> 00:46:28,049 S1: for somebody who's listening today, who's been overtaken with all 832 00:46:28,050 --> 00:46:31,250 S1: of these negative thoughts. We've been talking about powerful self-talk 833 00:46:31,250 --> 00:46:34,930 S1: from the Psalms 40 days to a biblical mindset. I've 834 00:46:34,969 --> 00:46:38,250 S1: given you a copy. Just go to Chris Fabry live.org. 835 00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:40,850 S1: Support us with a gift of any amount. We'd love 836 00:46:40,850 --> 00:46:44,330 S1: to send it your way. Go to Chris Fabry live.org. 837 00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:48,850 S1: And always remember, our program is a production of Moody Radio, 838 00:46:49,090 --> 00:46:51,650 S1: a Ministry of Moody Bible Institute.