1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,200 S1: Welcome to Tuesday's Chris Fabry Live! The 2026 edition. All 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,039 S1: rights reserved. This is the program from the heart to 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,240 S1: the heart and for the heart. And I believe wholeheartedly 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,400 S1: that one of the best things we can do at 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,439 S1: any time of the year, but especially here at the 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,320 S1: start of the new year, is to give encouragement to 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,680 S1: regularly engage with God's Word yourself. Sermons are great. Commentaries 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,479 S1: are great, Bible study tools are fantastic, but there is 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,360 S1: no substitute for you reading the text, mulling over what 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,800 S1: you read, letting it seep into your soul. Nobody else 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,600 S1: can do that for you and you gain so much 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,040 S1: from that discipline. I got a text yesterday from Joe, 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,599 S1: the prayer guy, who was our producer here for a 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,680 S1: number of years before he retired, and he sent me 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,160 S1: a verse from Hebrews, so excited about what he'd seen 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,030 S1: for the first time after reading it all his life. 17 00:01:01,270 --> 00:01:03,550 S1: That's the kind of excitement I would love to pass 18 00:01:03,550 --> 00:01:06,750 S1: along to you today. And all this week, as we're 19 00:01:06,750 --> 00:01:09,830 S1: talking about some aspect of getting into the word so 20 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:13,709 S1: that the word gets into us. To that end, I've 21 00:01:13,709 --> 00:01:16,830 S1: asked pastor and author doctor Josh Moody to join us today. 22 00:01:16,870 --> 00:01:21,030 S1: Talk about specific verses. Every Christian ought to know. Now, 23 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:24,229 S1: this is not Bible trivia. This is about knowing the 24 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:29,670 S1: foundational framework of our faith, kind of the underpinnings, the basics, 25 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:34,869 S1: so that you can build a strong, robust, structured faith 26 00:01:35,069 --> 00:01:39,110 S1: on what God says, not what just you and I think. 27 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:42,070 S1: What do you think are the Bible verses every Christian 28 00:01:42,110 --> 00:01:44,149 S1: ought to know? I put that question up on our 29 00:01:44,150 --> 00:01:46,390 S1: Facebook page. You can go there and answer that. Let's 30 00:01:46,390 --> 00:01:49,670 S1: talk about it straight ahead on Chris Fabry live online. 31 00:01:49,670 --> 00:01:53,270 S1: Chris Fabry. Let me thank our team. Ryan McConaughey is 32 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:56,670 S1: doing all things technical. Trisha is our producer. Lisa is 33 00:01:56,670 --> 00:02:00,060 S1: in the chair today. to hear was answering calls yesterday 34 00:02:00,060 --> 00:02:02,740 S1: and I said it was Josh. Is Josh here today? 35 00:02:02,780 --> 00:02:06,620 S1: You don't know Ananda. Ananda is here. Welcome back. Ananda. 36 00:02:06,740 --> 00:02:09,820 S1: So there you go, friends. Now you know everything. It 37 00:02:09,820 --> 00:02:13,220 S1: is important to think biblically about God, our own lives, 38 00:02:13,540 --> 00:02:16,100 S1: the issues that we face every day as well. And 39 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:18,340 S1: this month is our. Thank you for those who support 40 00:02:18,340 --> 00:02:21,579 S1: this very program. We have a little book that addresses 41 00:02:21,620 --> 00:02:26,220 S1: a controversial topic. How should Christians think about Israel? Turn 42 00:02:26,220 --> 00:02:28,420 S1: on the news. There's conflict in the Middle East. There's 43 00:02:28,419 --> 00:02:32,980 S1: rising anti-Semitism on college campuses and all around heated debates, 44 00:02:32,980 --> 00:02:35,260 S1: even in the church, about the Jewish people. What's the 45 00:02:35,260 --> 00:02:39,419 S1: Bible say? Has the church replaced Israel, or does God 46 00:02:39,419 --> 00:02:42,139 S1: still have a plan for the Jewish people? I want 47 00:02:42,180 --> 00:02:45,300 S1: to send you a copy of How Should Christians Think 48 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:48,540 S1: about Israel? Give a gift of any size. When you 49 00:02:48,580 --> 00:02:55,180 S1: call 86695 Fabri or go to the website. If you 50 00:02:55,180 --> 00:02:58,010 S1: haven't already gotten a copy, We talked with Mike Doctor 51 00:02:58,010 --> 00:03:01,570 S1: Michael Rudnick about this a couple of months ago. If 52 00:03:01,570 --> 00:03:03,730 S1: you don't have a copy, or maybe you'd like one 53 00:03:03,730 --> 00:03:05,570 S1: that you want to give to somebody else that you're 54 00:03:05,570 --> 00:03:09,169 S1: having these discussions with, call or click through today. Thanks 55 00:03:09,169 --> 00:03:18,889 S1: for your support. (866) 953-2279 or go to Chris Fabbri. Fabbri 56 00:03:19,210 --> 00:03:24,490 S1: Chris Fabbri live. I'm so excited to have doctor Josh 57 00:03:24,490 --> 00:03:27,570 S1: Moody back on the program. He's been senior pastor of 58 00:03:27,570 --> 00:03:32,330 S1: College Church in Wheaton since 2009. He is pastor, author, 59 00:03:32,330 --> 00:03:37,290 S1: conference speaker, and president and founder of God's Centered Life Ministries. 60 00:03:37,570 --> 00:03:40,930 S1: Grew up in the south of London in England. Became 61 00:03:40,930 --> 00:03:44,330 S1: a follower of Jesus in the Church of England, was 62 00:03:44,330 --> 00:03:48,090 S1: an undergraduate graduate at Cambridge. I could say so much 63 00:03:48,090 --> 00:03:50,450 S1: about it. We'd never get to his, uh, to him 64 00:03:50,490 --> 00:03:55,330 S1: and our featured resource today, which is our firm Foundation 65 00:03:55,370 --> 00:04:00,210 S1: Bible verses every Christian should know. Doctor Moody, welcome back 66 00:04:00,210 --> 00:04:01,770 S1: to the program. How you doing today? 67 00:04:02,810 --> 00:04:05,090 S2: Oh, Chris, thank you so much for your warm welcome. 68 00:04:05,090 --> 00:04:07,770 S2: It's wonderful to be with you. I always enjoy listening 69 00:04:07,810 --> 00:04:10,930 S2: to your program when I'm in the car, and just 70 00:04:10,930 --> 00:04:13,330 S2: a privilege to be with you and and to talk 71 00:04:13,370 --> 00:04:18,770 S2: about this very important theme, which I suggest is perhaps 72 00:04:18,770 --> 00:04:22,690 S2: the most, the most significant thing that we can get 73 00:04:22,690 --> 00:04:25,010 S2: into at the beginning of the new year, which is 74 00:04:25,010 --> 00:04:28,969 S2: how we can all start to root ourselves, uh, into 75 00:04:29,010 --> 00:04:31,130 S2: God's Word. And it can be a challenging thing to do, 76 00:04:31,170 --> 00:04:33,650 S2: can't it? We can all find it at times difficult 77 00:04:33,650 --> 00:04:36,130 S2: to keep the habit going in reading the Bible. And 78 00:04:36,690 --> 00:04:40,250 S2: and so this little resource that you so kindly mentioned, uh, 79 00:04:40,250 --> 00:04:43,810 S2: Bible verses every Christian should know is, is really intended 80 00:04:43,810 --> 00:04:46,169 S2: to help us. And we all find it difficult at times. 81 00:04:46,170 --> 00:04:48,290 S2: But to help us get into the Bible in a, 82 00:04:48,570 --> 00:04:50,690 S2: in an ongoing way. So yeah, it's great to be 83 00:04:50,690 --> 00:04:52,770 S2: with you, Chris. Thanks so much for all you do 84 00:04:52,770 --> 00:04:53,770 S2: to serve the Lord. 85 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,039 S1: Okay, what does that do then? What you just talked about. 86 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,720 S1: Regularly engaging personally with God's word. What does that do 87 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,800 S1: for the believer? 88 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,240 S2: What does it do for the believer? Well, uh, I 89 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,680 S2: suppose one image would be when Jesus talks about the 90 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,560 S2: importance of abiding in the vine. So we are as 91 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,400 S2: believers in Christ, not not like we are clothes in 92 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,440 S2: a closet, but like we're an arm in a body. 93 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,480 S2: So we're connected to Christ and we're in Christ by 94 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,679 S2: his work on the cross. As we as we read 95 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,640 S2: the Bible, as we pray, as we spend time with God, 96 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,760 S2: we're abiding in that reality. And so we're it's not 97 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,400 S2: simply I think a lot of people think about reading 98 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,720 S2: the Bible in sort of intellectual terms. And of course, 99 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,160 S2: there is a cognitive intellectual element to it. We do 100 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,480 S2: learn new things and have new insights, and that's all good. 101 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:57,150 S2: But the main benefit is something higher than that. It 102 00:05:57,150 --> 00:06:04,029 S2: goes with the cognitive, but it's a spiritual connection. And we, uh, 103 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:06,590 S2: you think about it, if you had the opportunity for 104 00:06:06,589 --> 00:06:11,310 S2: an audience with perhaps someone you admire very greatly, either 105 00:06:11,310 --> 00:06:14,630 S2: from the past or presently and you. Well, we have 106 00:06:14,630 --> 00:06:17,070 S2: the opportunity to to talk with the king of the 107 00:06:17,070 --> 00:06:20,589 S2: whole universe every morning, every evening to hear from him. 108 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:25,190 S2: And so reading the Bible is that connection with our 109 00:06:25,190 --> 00:06:28,510 S2: Lord and Savior, that, I mean, it's so dynamic and exciting, 110 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:31,430 S2: yet it can feel a bit like you've got to 111 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:33,510 S2: get to the gym and, you know, you can sort 112 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:36,190 S2: of fall off the wagon and be doing it less often. 113 00:06:36,190 --> 00:06:39,830 S2: You should do so. We're hoping to provide a resource 114 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:42,510 S2: to help help us all get into the into the 115 00:06:42,510 --> 00:06:44,229 S2: habit again of reading the Bible at the start of 116 00:06:44,230 --> 00:06:44,790 S2: this new year. 117 00:06:44,830 --> 00:06:47,470 S1: Okay, so you used that word twice now. And when 118 00:06:47,470 --> 00:06:51,150 S1: I when I hear habit, I think negative. You know, 119 00:06:51,190 --> 00:06:54,900 S1: I think a habitual thing I do habitually is can 120 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:57,740 S1: be negative. It doesn't have to be. But I'm asking 121 00:06:57,740 --> 00:07:00,580 S1: guests all this week, how do you make that time? 122 00:07:00,779 --> 00:07:04,060 S1: Not obligatory, not a box you check off so that 123 00:07:04,060 --> 00:07:06,060 S1: you can go do what you need to do. You 124 00:07:06,060 --> 00:07:10,420 S1: know you're paying. You're paying your spiritual dividend or or 125 00:07:10,580 --> 00:07:12,660 S1: the bill in the morning so that you can go 126 00:07:12,660 --> 00:07:14,860 S1: do whatever you want. Because if I don't have my devotions, 127 00:07:14,860 --> 00:07:17,100 S1: God's going to be mad at me. And that's that's 128 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:20,460 S1: not a relational way to look at it. So how 129 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:24,020 S1: do you do that without it becoming an obligation? 130 00:07:25,540 --> 00:07:27,820 S3: Yeah, I was thinking about that just. 131 00:07:28,180 --> 00:07:30,260 S2: As I was praying for our time together and thinking 132 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:32,460 S2: about the time together. And of course, there are two 133 00:07:32,460 --> 00:07:35,620 S2: ways to answer that. One is the is to accent 134 00:07:35,660 --> 00:07:40,180 S2: the positive, which was what I was just doing. In 135 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:42,140 S2: other words, to say, look, you have we have the 136 00:07:42,140 --> 00:07:44,100 S2: opportunity to spend time with the Lord Jesus. This is 137 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:46,900 S2: the most exciting thing you could possibly do. And so 138 00:07:46,900 --> 00:07:48,980 S2: we could go down that stream, and there's a lot 139 00:07:49,020 --> 00:07:51,570 S2: we could say about that. We could at least certainly 140 00:07:51,570 --> 00:07:53,970 S2: fill the next hour or two hours just talking about 141 00:07:53,970 --> 00:07:57,610 S2: the the glory of spending time with Jesus. You think 142 00:07:57,610 --> 00:08:01,010 S2: of the of the Christ hymn in Colossians 115 to 143 00:08:01,010 --> 00:08:06,090 S2: 20 and, uh, where Paul presents Jesus as having this 144 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:10,170 S2: dual supremacy of Lord of all creation and Lord of 145 00:08:10,170 --> 00:08:12,890 S2: the church. And so when you read his word, you're 146 00:08:12,890 --> 00:08:16,570 S2: spending time with him. I mean, so it's it's it's 147 00:08:16,570 --> 00:08:21,650 S2: not a it's to have a habit around something so 148 00:08:21,690 --> 00:08:24,090 S2: amazing that should thrill us. So there's that way of going. 149 00:08:24,130 --> 00:08:26,410 S2: We could speak about that. But as I, as I 150 00:08:26,410 --> 00:08:28,730 S2: was praying about the sort of question you just raised, 151 00:08:28,730 --> 00:08:31,370 S2: I actually went back in my mind to. So I'm 152 00:08:31,370 --> 00:08:33,969 S2: one of these and interrupt any time. Chris, I may 153 00:08:33,970 --> 00:08:35,330 S2: be going too long. I'm about to tell a story. 154 00:08:35,330 --> 00:08:36,970 S2: So if you want to cut me off, that's fine. 155 00:08:37,010 --> 00:08:39,970 S2: But I was I one of these people who at 156 00:08:39,970 --> 00:08:43,330 S2: the age of 13, was a kind of a cultural 157 00:08:43,330 --> 00:08:45,250 S2: thing in my background in England. I was sent off 158 00:08:45,250 --> 00:08:48,130 S2: to boarding school. And so you have to imagine what 159 00:08:48,130 --> 00:08:51,880 S2: that's like you. You're suddenly in a dormitory of like 13, 160 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,320 S2: 14 other teenagers and not a dormitory, like in a 161 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,280 S2: fancy university in America, but a dormitory, like one big 162 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,600 S2: room with iron beds and no privacy and that sort 163 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880 S2: of thing. So there I am as a Christian, and 164 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,600 S2: you're thinking, well, when am I going to read the Bible? 165 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,320 S2: I mean, to get out of the Bible in that context, 166 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,760 S2: you'd be laughed out of the room. You can't do it. 167 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,880 S2: And I thought, what is it that kept me reading 168 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,840 S2: the Bible then? I think, I think it was, you know, 169 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,040 S2: to be a sense of desperation. I have to survive 170 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,160 S2: this day. And I sometimes wonder whether the main reason 171 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,280 S2: for really frank with each other, why we don't commit 172 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,959 S2: to reading the Bible, is we think we can. Maybe 173 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:37,120 S2: we think we've got it covered. And, but but truly, 174 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,720 S2: we need him. Truly we do. And I think that's 175 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,719 S2: actually there is the sweet side of it. I get 176 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,200 S2: to spend time with him. But for me, there's also 177 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,870 S2: the desperation side to it. Every single day. I've got 178 00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:51,870 S2: another day ahead of me. I have to follow Jesus today. 179 00:09:52,390 --> 00:09:55,190 S2: The things I need, the things I don't, I need 180 00:09:55,190 --> 00:09:58,670 S2: to avoid, I've got to spend time with, with the 181 00:09:58,670 --> 00:10:01,910 S2: Lord and the word got to, you know. So that 182 00:10:01,910 --> 00:10:03,710 S2: drives me to my knees and drives me to open 183 00:10:03,710 --> 00:10:04,270 S2: the Bible. 184 00:10:04,630 --> 00:10:08,190 S1: You actually opened the book that way. You say the 185 00:10:08,190 --> 00:10:11,870 S1: power of the Bible is made especially evident in times 186 00:10:11,870 --> 00:10:16,069 S1: of exceeding crisis. The Gideon's Bible, found in a hotel room, 187 00:10:16,110 --> 00:10:19,310 S1: turned to for help when the drugs run dry. The 188 00:10:19,309 --> 00:10:22,550 S1: Bible imprinted with words of encouragement from the king, given 189 00:10:22,550 --> 00:10:25,350 S1: to the troops entering World War One, World War two. 190 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:28,750 S1: So there is this sense that when you don't know 191 00:10:28,750 --> 00:10:32,069 S1: where to turn, this is where you turn. But it 192 00:10:32,070 --> 00:10:38,190 S1: is as important in times when you don't feel that dependence, like, 193 00:10:38,190 --> 00:10:40,630 S1: I can handle this, God, because we we can be 194 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:44,310 S1: practical atheists that way. And, uh, so I'm going to 195 00:10:44,350 --> 00:10:49,620 S1: I'm going to open the lines up at (877) 548-3675. And 196 00:10:49,620 --> 00:10:52,500 S1: if you want to tell us what verse you think 197 00:10:52,540 --> 00:10:54,579 S1: ought to be included in this book, you go ahead 198 00:10:54,580 --> 00:11:01,819 S1: and call us (877) 548-3675. But what Doctor Moody has done 199 00:11:01,860 --> 00:11:05,860 S1: Bible verses every Christian should know is give us a 200 00:11:05,860 --> 00:11:12,340 S1: context of the of both knowing God and then following God. 201 00:11:12,460 --> 00:11:16,300 S1: So there are sections in here verses about knowing God 202 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:21,180 S1: as Creator, knowing him as sovereign, knowing him as holy, 203 00:11:21,220 --> 00:11:24,780 S1: as love, as faithful. And so we're going to go 204 00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:27,500 S1: into those. And my guess is there are verses that 205 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:30,020 S1: you will call in and tell us about that are 206 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:33,220 S1: on this list, or in this list of the Bible 207 00:11:33,220 --> 00:11:37,700 S1: verses every Christian should know. It's our featured resource today. 208 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:41,380 S1: Just go to Chris. Org. Click through today's information. You'll 209 00:11:41,380 --> 00:11:45,780 S1: see it right there along with doctor Josh Moody's information. 210 00:11:46,020 --> 00:11:50,820 S1: Chris Fabry liver. What do you think are the Bible 211 00:11:50,820 --> 00:12:11,620 S1: verses every Christian should know? (877) 548-3675. What are the Bible 212 00:12:11,620 --> 00:12:19,020 S1: verses every Christian should know? Here's the number (877) 548-3675. Doctor 213 00:12:19,020 --> 00:12:23,060 S1: Josh Moody of God-centered Life Ministries is with us and 214 00:12:23,059 --> 00:12:25,939 S1: our featured resource is a great book. It's a gorgeous. 215 00:12:25,980 --> 00:12:28,819 S1: There's a sense that it's a gift book. There's something 216 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:32,460 S1: you can give to somebody as well. Bible verses every 217 00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:38,020 S1: Christian should know. And that's the illustrations are just gorgeous 218 00:12:38,059 --> 00:12:41,980 S1: in here. Doctor Moody, is this a something that you 219 00:12:41,980 --> 00:12:44,010 S1: can give to somebody that you care about. 220 00:12:44,850 --> 00:12:47,090 S2: That's very much the hope. Yeah. They did such a 221 00:12:47,090 --> 00:12:50,290 S2: good job. Christian art gifts with this book, with the 222 00:12:50,290 --> 00:12:54,890 S2: illustrations and the presentation. And I saw some people already 223 00:12:55,290 --> 00:12:58,730 S2: commenting on Amazon about just that, how, you know, your 224 00:12:58,730 --> 00:13:01,130 S2: point about it being something easy, easy to give away. 225 00:13:01,130 --> 00:13:03,250 S2: You think of someone in your life, perhaps, who isn't 226 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:06,610 S2: yet a Christian, and this is something you can give 227 00:13:06,610 --> 00:13:09,090 S2: to them. So look, explore who God is and what 228 00:13:09,090 --> 00:13:11,250 S2: it means to follow him through the word itself. This 229 00:13:11,250 --> 00:13:13,810 S2: will be a guide to that. But then also, of course, 230 00:13:13,809 --> 00:13:16,410 S2: to your Christian friends and family. It's a it's a 231 00:13:16,410 --> 00:13:19,809 S2: great giveaway. Yeah. And we hope it will be. And 232 00:13:19,809 --> 00:13:22,130 S2: there are all these, uh, you have the little I 233 00:13:22,170 --> 00:13:24,810 S2: do a little introduction to each bit, just a short 234 00:13:24,809 --> 00:13:27,410 S2: page or so. And then there's the, the verses and 235 00:13:27,410 --> 00:13:29,290 S2: then underneath there are lines. So you can take out 236 00:13:29,290 --> 00:13:32,490 S2: a pen or a pencil and write your own comments. 237 00:13:32,490 --> 00:13:35,010 S2: So the goal of course is to in a sense, 238 00:13:35,050 --> 00:13:37,610 S2: get out of the way and help people to engage 239 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:41,610 S2: directly with the word itself. And there are there's a 240 00:13:41,610 --> 00:13:44,400 S2: way to do that through the context of the book 241 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:44,920 S2: as well. 242 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,839 S1: So I like that. I like it when you say 243 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,920 S1: get out of the way because, yeah, you just you 244 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,960 S1: kind of you're trusting the spirit to take over. Now 245 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,760 S1: here's one caveat though, and that is context. If you 246 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,280 S1: take you can you've heard this done, isolate Eisegesis isolate 247 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,520 S1: a verse or even a phrase in the Bible, and 248 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,920 S1: then use that in ways that is wildly unfaithful to 249 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,160 S1: the text surrounding it. You're not suggesting that, right? 250 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,880 S2: Absolutely not. No. In a way, the the tool is 251 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,760 S2: trying to do that. So there's the there are two 252 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,120 S2: halves to it, one knowing God and the other following God. 253 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,320 S2: And really, I'm I'm walking us through a basic way 254 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,120 S2: of putting together the, the the doctrine, the teaching of 255 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,000 S2: the Bible in a coherent way through these texts. No, 256 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,360 S2: you're absolutely right. Yeah. What's the old phrase, a a 257 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,390 S2: text where the context is a pretext or a proof text. 258 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:45,110 S2: And so you you just like you can yank anything 259 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:46,950 S2: at it. And we need to put it in context. 260 00:14:46,990 --> 00:14:49,910 S2: And so this is certainly this isn't everything. So we 261 00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:54,030 S2: want to encourage people to get into church here. Good 262 00:14:54,070 --> 00:14:57,670 S2: Bible teaching that walks through the passage in context. We 263 00:14:57,670 --> 00:15:01,150 S2: do that every. Uh, by God's grace, every Sunday morning 264 00:15:01,150 --> 00:15:03,190 S2: at college church and the many other churches around the 265 00:15:03,190 --> 00:15:06,190 S2: city in the country that do that, too, I'm sure. Um, 266 00:15:06,190 --> 00:15:09,430 S2: and you want, when you're reading your Bible, you don't 267 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:11,990 S2: just want to grab a verse out of context like that, 268 00:15:11,990 --> 00:15:15,910 S2: but this is one way to help us get into 269 00:15:15,950 --> 00:15:19,310 S2: a devotional pattern, and so we trust it will serve 270 00:15:19,950 --> 00:15:20,830 S2: to that end. 271 00:15:21,230 --> 00:15:24,950 S1: Here is what is different, though, about your book and 272 00:15:24,950 --> 00:15:28,150 S1: the way that you've put this together. It's not just 273 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:32,150 S1: listing a bunch of verses. You know. John 316. You 274 00:15:32,190 --> 00:15:37,150 S1: got it. John 316. You have chosen who God is 275 00:15:37,190 --> 00:15:40,620 S1: and how we can know him. And then our response 276 00:15:40,620 --> 00:15:43,580 S1: to him, basically what he's calling us to respond to 277 00:15:43,620 --> 00:15:46,700 S1: him with. And so turn in your book there to 278 00:15:46,740 --> 00:15:51,580 S1: page 15. I think it is knowing God as creator 279 00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:53,540 S1: in our modern world, we are trained to look at 280 00:15:53,540 --> 00:15:56,700 S1: the universe all around us through the eyes of a materialist. 281 00:15:56,940 --> 00:15:59,260 S1: It's hard for us to tend to think of things 282 00:15:59,260 --> 00:16:03,980 S1: as nothing but matter. To realize that even scientifically speaking, 283 00:16:03,980 --> 00:16:06,940 S1: things are not so simple. A person of sensitivity and 284 00:16:06,940 --> 00:16:09,860 S1: thought will realize that the age old question where do 285 00:16:09,860 --> 00:16:13,140 S1: we come from? Cannot be brushed aside or shrugged off 286 00:16:13,140 --> 00:16:16,100 S1: as a useless question to ask. And then you go 287 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:20,700 S1: on from there, and then you list the verses that 288 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:24,580 S1: you think show this from the scriptures. So can you 289 00:16:24,580 --> 00:16:28,420 S1: go through some of these and tell us why they're important? 290 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:29,740 S2: Hmm. 291 00:16:29,980 --> 00:16:30,300 S3: Yeah. 292 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:32,540 S2: So the actual verse is in that section. So yeah. 293 00:16:32,980 --> 00:16:35,860 S2: Genesis one one in the beginning God created the heaven 294 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:41,290 S2: and the earth. I mean, it's the. It's the foundational 295 00:16:41,490 --> 00:16:45,930 S2: text for the for the whole Bible that in the 296 00:16:45,930 --> 00:16:49,730 S2: beginning God. I mean, to answer your question, how does that, uh, 297 00:16:49,730 --> 00:16:53,970 S2: describe the, uh, the fact that the universe is not 298 00:16:53,970 --> 00:16:57,010 S2: simply a nothing but universe, as the Bible is claiming 299 00:16:57,010 --> 00:17:02,250 S2: that it's God who's the creator. Uh, so that's, you know, 300 00:17:02,290 --> 00:17:05,810 S2: that's pretty important. Uh, and then Genesis 127, so God 301 00:17:05,810 --> 00:17:08,130 S2: created human beings in his own image, in the image 302 00:17:08,130 --> 00:17:11,690 S2: of God. He created them male and female. He created them. 303 00:17:12,330 --> 00:17:16,889 S2: And so we moved past the, um, the reality of 304 00:17:16,890 --> 00:17:21,650 S2: the universe around us to the reality of humans themselves. 305 00:17:22,090 --> 00:17:27,210 S2: And this great text about us being the imago Dei, 306 00:17:27,250 --> 00:17:31,650 S2: made in the image of God, that we are in 307 00:17:31,650 --> 00:17:36,600 S2: his image. And so we are. We are not Defined 308 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,600 S2: by our own identity. What a key word today, our identity. 309 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,080 S2: We're defined by how he defines our identity. We don't 310 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:49,520 S2: self-define we our God defined. And that gives us a security, 311 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,320 S2: and it gives us a purpose, and it gives us 312 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:58,719 S2: a meaning far beyond merely being, uh, you know, a 313 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,080 S2: sort of bag of meat with a computer on top, 314 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,280 S2: which is the, I guess, a slightly, uh, simplistic way 315 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,840 S2: of describing the materialistic vision. But if we are just 316 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:13,720 S2: nothing but but atoms, it's very hard to construct any 317 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,320 S2: kind of meaning out of that. But we're made in 318 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,640 S2: the image of God, and therefore, of course, that grants 319 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,119 S2: us meaning. Psalm 19, verse one, the heavens declare the 320 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,360 S2: glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. 321 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:31,200 S2: So Psalm 19 is saying, Because of Genesis one one, 322 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,600 S2: in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, 323 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:39,110 S2: the heavens. The earth that is the universe, um, speak 324 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:48,270 S2: constantly of their architect, their creator and sustainer. And so 325 00:18:48,270 --> 00:18:53,670 S2: when we go to the Grand Canyon, when we look 326 00:18:53,670 --> 00:18:59,350 S2: at a beautiful sunset, when we are just blown away 327 00:18:59,470 --> 00:19:05,150 S2: by the the awesome power of the ocean, that that 328 00:19:05,150 --> 00:19:08,949 S2: that sensibility we're feeling is speaking of the of the 329 00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:14,030 S2: glory and power of God. Um, James, Jeremiah ten, verse 12. 330 00:19:14,030 --> 00:19:15,590 S2: But the Lord made the earth by his power, and 331 00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:18,469 S2: he preserves it by his wisdom. With his own understanding, 332 00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:20,630 S2: he stretched out the heavens. So it's one of those 333 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:25,750 S2: texts that talks about, um, how the the nature of 334 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:31,350 S2: reality is shaped by the wisdom of God. And so 335 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:36,460 S2: the sense of order, Uh, um, uh, the, uh, the 336 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:43,220 S2: so-called laws of the universe are reflective of the law giver. Um, 337 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:45,220 S2: so I guess we could go on, but that's that's 338 00:19:45,220 --> 00:19:45,980 S2: the kind of thing. 339 00:19:46,020 --> 00:19:47,820 S1: I love that, I love that, and I want to 340 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:52,260 S1: go back to, uh, Psalm 19. Because the heavens declare 341 00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:55,660 S1: the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. 342 00:19:55,900 --> 00:20:00,740 S1: And then it says, day to day pours out speech, 343 00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:07,260 S1: meaning it's not just a one time. Declaring the glory 344 00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:09,660 S1: of God is like you. Look at it again. Look 345 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:11,820 S1: at it today. Look at it in the in the afternoon. 346 00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:13,780 S1: Look at it in the evening, at night, at the stars, 347 00:20:13,820 --> 00:20:16,980 S1: everything it is proclaiming to you, it's speaking to you. 348 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:19,940 S1: And then verse three, there is no speech, nor are 349 00:20:19,940 --> 00:20:24,419 S1: there words whose voice is not heard. So this declaring 350 00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:27,460 S1: of the glory of God is just. It's going on 351 00:20:27,460 --> 00:20:30,020 S1: and on and on. And it says, their voice goes 352 00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:32,020 S1: out through all the earth, the words to the end 353 00:20:32,020 --> 00:20:34,820 S1: of the world, and it talks about the sun coming 354 00:20:34,820 --> 00:20:38,780 S1: out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, a strong man 355 00:20:38,780 --> 00:20:42,660 S1: running its course with joy. It's like it's the personification 356 00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:46,780 S1: of all of this. Out there is is meant to 357 00:20:46,820 --> 00:20:51,179 S1: show you that God is there. He's this creative being. 358 00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:53,620 S1: And you can have a relationship with him. 359 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:58,740 S2: Right? Right? Right, right. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. That whole 360 00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:04,220 S2: Psalm 19 is such a testimony to that, that truth 361 00:21:04,220 --> 00:21:07,300 S2: that you're speaking about there, Chris, that that it is 362 00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:15,580 S2: a constant orchestra that is playing the melody of not 363 00:21:15,580 --> 00:21:18,899 S2: just the existence of God, but the glory of God. Now, 364 00:21:18,940 --> 00:21:20,980 S2: of course, not everyone sees that. Not everyone agrees that 365 00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:23,780 S2: because the God is his age has blinded the minds 366 00:21:23,780 --> 00:21:25,820 S2: of unbelievers, so they cannot see the glory of God 367 00:21:25,820 --> 00:21:28,820 S2: in the face of Christ. So we don't all, uh, 368 00:21:29,060 --> 00:21:34,250 S2: we don't see what is real. If we're if we're not, uh, 369 00:21:35,050 --> 00:21:38,330 S2: brought alive by the Spirit of God. But that's not. 370 00:21:38,369 --> 00:21:40,090 S2: But once we do see it, it's like. How could 371 00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:43,090 S2: you not see that? Right? How could you not? Uh, 372 00:21:43,850 --> 00:21:48,169 S2: when God is at work in our lives and, uh, and, uh. Yeah. 373 00:21:48,170 --> 00:21:50,970 S2: So the and we're talking about very foundational things. So 374 00:21:50,970 --> 00:21:53,609 S2: each of these verses here is, as you go through them, 375 00:21:53,650 --> 00:21:58,850 S2: put notes underneath them, it should have this impact of 376 00:21:59,130 --> 00:22:02,370 S2: digging deep into your heart, your mind just on this 377 00:22:02,369 --> 00:22:04,409 S2: little bit of God as the creator, who he is. 378 00:22:04,450 --> 00:22:07,609 S2: And that helps answer many of the, uh, one of 379 00:22:07,609 --> 00:22:09,450 S2: the things I've reflected on, Chris, I don't know whether 380 00:22:09,450 --> 00:22:13,290 S2: you agree with this, is that Christians often seem to 381 00:22:13,330 --> 00:22:16,770 S2: run off into this conversation, this conversation, this kind of 382 00:22:17,010 --> 00:22:19,810 S2: in the minors. And I think a lot of it 383 00:22:19,810 --> 00:22:25,050 S2: is because we're not having clarity about the, the overall architecture, 384 00:22:25,090 --> 00:22:28,530 S2: the the thrust, the main themes of Scripture, so that 385 00:22:28,530 --> 00:22:31,480 S2: then we, you know, as Paul says in Ephesians, we're 386 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,840 S2: blown around by every kind of teaching here and there 387 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,120 S2: because we're not speaking the truth in love to each other. 388 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,800 S2: So part of, again, if we get into God's Word 389 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,640 S2: and hopefully this will be a good tool for, for you, 390 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,520 S2: but if you get into God's Word, then what happens 391 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,480 S2: is you start to have a rootedness so that when 392 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,240 S2: a question comes up about, you know, whether it's Israel 393 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,160 S2: or whether it's like some political thing or you've now 394 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,119 S2: got the architecture in your mind, go, well, I know 395 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,439 S2: how that fits into a larger story. So I'm no 396 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,280 S2: longer thrown off balance because I can see where it 397 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,760 S2: fits in, because God's the Creator and he did this, 398 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,720 S2: that and the other and well, okay, so I'm not 399 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,280 S2: I'm no longer insecure. So. And not. 400 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:09,560 S1: To. 401 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,680 S2: Win massively. 402 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,800 S1: Not to win arguments either because I think you can 403 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,919 S1: look at the scriptures, you know, if there's somebody knocking 404 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,320 S1: on your door who says Jesus is not God, well, 405 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,000 S1: show me the different verses that I can show them 406 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,440 S1: to prove them wrong. It's like, and I get that, 407 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,350 S1: I understand that, but this is not about trying to 408 00:23:29,390 --> 00:23:34,550 S1: win arguments. This is trying to understand who who does 409 00:23:34,550 --> 00:23:37,229 S1: God say he is, not? Who do I think he is? 410 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:40,510 S1: How can I make him in my own image? We're 411 00:23:40,510 --> 00:23:43,950 S1: trying to get at the truth. The capital T truth here, 412 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:44,550 S1: aren't we? 413 00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:49,949 S2: Right, exactly. And that it's a there's a. Yeah. So 414 00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:51,830 S2: we don't want to be the kind of people who 415 00:23:51,869 --> 00:23:56,470 S2: are are winning a point, but losing a person. Um, 416 00:23:57,070 --> 00:23:59,350 S2: you know, just win the argument, be lost. Then in 417 00:23:59,350 --> 00:24:02,430 S2: a sense, you've lost the argument. Because the point is, 418 00:24:02,430 --> 00:24:05,070 S2: you want to win this person. If you kind of 419 00:24:05,109 --> 00:24:08,670 S2: make some case that you feel like you've you've defeated 420 00:24:08,670 --> 00:24:10,629 S2: the guy, but you've just shamed him really, because you 421 00:24:10,670 --> 00:24:12,710 S2: made him feel like an idiot. Well, you've you've lost 422 00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:17,110 S2: the game. So the game is to is to is. 423 00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:22,510 S2: So we do need to be zealous for truth. Uh, 424 00:24:22,910 --> 00:24:27,460 S2: but with knowledge and love. So it's not like they're just, 425 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,139 S2: you know, going out there and beating people over the 426 00:24:30,140 --> 00:24:31,780 S2: head with the Bible isn't going to win them to 427 00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:33,980 S2: believe the Bible. On the other hand, not telling people 428 00:24:33,980 --> 00:24:36,460 S2: the truth, the Bible win them to believe the Bible either, 429 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:39,500 S2: because then they'll just think you're a nice guy, but 430 00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:42,139 S2: they won't know who the God is that you believe. 431 00:24:42,140 --> 00:24:44,980 S2: And so one of the things I've been trying to 432 00:24:45,020 --> 00:24:49,220 S2: emphasize in conversations in recent days is the importance of, 433 00:24:49,660 --> 00:24:53,980 S2: I alluded already to Ephesians, but the importance of the 434 00:24:53,980 --> 00:24:58,100 S2: balance of truth and love, which isn't downplaying the truth 435 00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:02,420 S2: or removing the love. It's just how we tell the truth. 436 00:25:03,180 --> 00:25:05,740 S2: So you're not just winning an argument, you're winning the person. 437 00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:10,300 S1: Exactly. I like this approach. And if you go to 438 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:14,500 S1: the website, Chris, you'll see the book that we're talking 439 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:18,540 S1: about today, a great resource from Josh Moody and God 440 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:22,580 S1: Centered Life Ministries, Bible verses every Christian should know. I'm 441 00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:24,460 S1: going to go to your phone calls if you're online. 442 00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:27,210 S1: Hang on there. And also I want to look at 443 00:25:27,250 --> 00:25:30,970 S1: what people have said on Facebook. But I'd love to 444 00:25:30,970 --> 00:25:37,650 S1: hear from you at (877) 548-3675. This is not just about 445 00:25:37,650 --> 00:25:42,129 S1: knowing more either. This is not just about knowledge. I 446 00:25:42,130 --> 00:25:44,129 S1: want to come back and talk about that with doctor 447 00:25:44,130 --> 00:25:47,850 S1: Josh Moody today at the radio backyard fence. This is 448 00:25:47,850 --> 00:26:04,250 S1: Chris Barrie live online Chris Fabry live. What a treat 449 00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:06,810 S1: to have doctor Josh Moody with us, senior pastor of 450 00:26:06,810 --> 00:26:11,850 S1: College Church in Wheaton, Illinois. He's been there since 2009. 451 00:26:11,850 --> 00:26:16,130 S1: So that's what, 16 years or so? Coming up on 17. 452 00:26:16,210 --> 00:26:18,970 S1: It's a long time. He's the founder and president of 453 00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:24,399 S1: God-centered Life Ministries, and his book, Bible Verses Every Christian 454 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,480 S1: Should know is our featured resource at Chris Fabry Livorno. 455 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,040 S1: Chris Fabry, Livorno okay. Answer that question before the break, 456 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,640 S1: I threw this. It's not about knowledge because I told 457 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,359 S1: you in the break. I think that's one of the 458 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,040 S1: reasons why I wanted to go to Bible school. I 459 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,040 S1: wanted to go to Moody Bible Institute because I knew 460 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560 S1: that there was so much that I didn't know about 461 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,560 S1: the Bible. And, and probably part of that was a 462 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,880 S1: control thing. You know, I knew all of these other 463 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,359 S1: people that could quote verses like you've done here for 464 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,320 S1: us today. And right from your the synapses, you just 465 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,639 S1: pull them out. It's like, I want to be like that. 466 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,440 S1: And if I know everything that I don't know, then 467 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,280 S1: I'm going to be helped. And the hard part of 468 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,040 S1: that is the more you know, the more you had 469 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,439 S1: to obey, the more you see of your own sin 470 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,280 S1: and how far away from him you are. So this 471 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,639 S1: is not just about knowledge, is it? 472 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,359 S2: No. It's not. No. And, uh, I remember having a 473 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,719 S2: conversation with a friend of mine. I won't say who 474 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,110 S2: it is, I'm sure you wouldn't mind if I did, 475 00:27:24,109 --> 00:27:26,510 S2: but I don't have his permission, so I won't mention it. 476 00:27:26,510 --> 00:27:29,510 S2: But when we are both doing doctorate work at Cambridge, 477 00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:33,070 S2: PhD in Theology at Cambridge, and we were sitting down 478 00:27:33,070 --> 00:27:35,430 S2: and talking about our experience of going to church, and 479 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:38,189 S2: he was saying, Josh, I go to church now, and 480 00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:40,670 S2: I just find it very frustrating. I just feel like 481 00:27:40,670 --> 00:27:43,310 S2: I know more than the preacher, and I'm afraid I 482 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:47,510 S2: was younger then, so I was a little more, um, bolshy, 483 00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:50,469 S2: I suppose. It's used in English for boisterous, but I 484 00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:54,390 S2: just said to him, you know, um, knowledge puffs up, 485 00:27:54,390 --> 00:27:56,910 S2: but love builds up, brother. And he was like, oh, 486 00:27:57,350 --> 00:28:00,350 S2: you can't say that. So I mean, there's so there's 487 00:28:00,350 --> 00:28:03,310 S2: a point there, isn't there? We you can have knowledge 488 00:28:03,310 --> 00:28:08,070 S2: but not know the one. Yes. And so it's a 489 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:10,350 S2: real we know this don't know it's a relationship with 490 00:28:10,350 --> 00:28:12,990 S2: the Lord. And so it's a false dichotomy to some extent. 491 00:28:12,990 --> 00:28:16,430 S2: But the, the, the end goal must be a deeper 492 00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:19,150 S2: personal knowledge of him. And if you want to get 493 00:28:19,150 --> 00:28:22,830 S2: to know a friend, you need to know about him. But. 494 00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:26,149 S2: But knowing him is not just knowing about him. 495 00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:31,350 S1: Exactly. Yeah. Let me go to our first caller. Adam 496 00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:35,429 S1: is in Colorado. Adam, tell me a verse that you think, uh, 497 00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:36,830 S1: every Christian ought to know. 498 00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:40,830 S4: Well, um, thank you for having me. I listen to 499 00:28:40,830 --> 00:28:44,870 S4: your show. Love it. Um, mine. I went through something traumatic, 500 00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:49,230 S4: life shattering for false accusations were made against me. And 501 00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:53,550 S4: Psalm 35, specifically verse 11 stuck out to me. Liars 502 00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:57,550 S4: accused me of crimes I know nothing about. They repay 503 00:28:57,590 --> 00:29:01,390 S4: evil for good. It talks about being alone and that 504 00:29:01,430 --> 00:29:05,310 S4: the Lord God is a warrior for you. And I 505 00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:08,910 S4: read the verse and like you said, knowledge is knowing 506 00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:11,950 S4: a tomato is a fruit. Understanding it is not putting 507 00:29:11,950 --> 00:29:17,710 S4: it in a fruit salad and really understanding that the 508 00:29:17,710 --> 00:29:21,060 S4: Lord is a loving, compassionate Lord. But he's also can 509 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,140 S4: be your warrior, your shield, and your sword. 510 00:29:23,620 --> 00:29:26,780 S1: Yes. You know what I love most about that, Adam? 511 00:29:26,780 --> 00:29:30,780 S1: That passage. And I have it in a slightly different translation. 512 00:29:30,780 --> 00:29:35,260 S1: Malicious witnesses rise up. They ask me if things that 513 00:29:35,260 --> 00:29:38,100 S1: I do not know, they repay me evil for good. 514 00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:42,820 S1: My soul is bereft. And for anybody who says, well, 515 00:29:42,820 --> 00:29:45,140 S1: you know. Well, the Bible is just if you do 516 00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:47,420 S1: this and that and everything will be okay. And it's 517 00:29:47,420 --> 00:29:50,220 S1: just all everything is good in there. It's like the 518 00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:54,020 S1: psalmist takes us to places of the heart that we 519 00:29:54,020 --> 00:29:58,140 S1: all understand. And you have been there. And I think that's, uh, 520 00:29:58,180 --> 00:30:00,580 S1: Doctor Moody. That is one of the things that we 521 00:30:00,580 --> 00:30:04,140 S1: have to realize that the warp and woof of life. 522 00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:07,420 S1: This is all for us in the scriptures, isn't it? 523 00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:10,740 S2: It is. Yeah, I love that. I love that Adam. 524 00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:13,620 S2: And I love that verse. And I was thinking of 525 00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:18,100 S2: Psalm 120 as well. Similarly, deliver me, O Lord, from 526 00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:22,650 S2: lying lips, from a deceitful tongue. And it's amazing, isn't it? 527 00:30:22,690 --> 00:30:25,330 S2: How God's Word comes in and speaks to us and 528 00:30:25,530 --> 00:30:31,650 S2: in the reality of what is painfully real. And so 529 00:30:31,690 --> 00:30:33,890 S2: I praise God that he did that for you. And 530 00:30:33,890 --> 00:30:35,930 S2: I'm sorry you went through that time. I praise God 531 00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:38,770 S2: that he spoke to you and showed you that he cares. 532 00:30:38,770 --> 00:30:40,450 S2: He knew what you were going through and there was 533 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:41,050 S2: a way out. 534 00:30:41,490 --> 00:30:44,850 S1: But if you hadn't gone through that, Adam, you wouldn't 535 00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:49,490 S1: know the depth of that truth that God is for 536 00:30:49,490 --> 00:30:51,570 S1: you and walking with you, right? 537 00:30:51,890 --> 00:30:55,450 S4: No, I wouldn't, and I had fallen. I've been a 538 00:30:55,450 --> 00:30:58,250 S4: Christian since I was little, and it's one of those 539 00:30:58,250 --> 00:31:02,010 S4: where I would still pray pretty much daily. But I 540 00:31:02,010 --> 00:31:05,570 S4: wasn't really praying, you know, saying a few words here 541 00:31:05,570 --> 00:31:08,970 S4: and there, asking for things instead of being grateful for 542 00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:13,850 S4: what I had, really put things in perspective and kind 543 00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:17,320 S4: of realign me with who I want to be, what 544 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,040 S4: I want to do. 545 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,520 S1: Yes, there's a great section on prayer that I want 546 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760 S1: to get to. Adam, thanks for your call. Josh, what 547 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,600 S1: were you going to say? 548 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,480 S2: Oh, I was just going to say the Lord graciously 549 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,400 S2: gives us those kind of wake up calls. And, uh, 550 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,360 S2: I think we've all had that in our lives. Uh, 551 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,600 S2: and it's a sense of his fatherly love. Isn't he? 552 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,920 S2: The father disciplines a child because he loves us. 553 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,600 S1: Exactly. And. But that's hard. That's hard to have to 554 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,360 S1: go through that whole. 555 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,080 S2: Thing at a time. But. But produces a harvest of righteousness. So, yeah, 556 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,560 S2: we don't we don't enjoy it, but it's good for us. So. 557 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,320 S2: And that's, um. Yeah. I've never. 558 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,040 S1: Known anybody. 559 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,920 S2: Lying lips and slander is a big thing today. Yeah. Sorry. 560 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,440 S1: I've never known anybody who has said, uh, I went 561 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,160 S1: through this really hard time in my life and went 562 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,479 S1: through this valley. Uh, and finally I got to the 563 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,600 S1: top of it and everything was okay. Again, I didn't 564 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,470 S1: learn anything from that. It's always the growth Happens in 565 00:32:16,510 --> 00:32:20,790 S1: that valley. But it's hard. It's hard, you know, just 566 00:32:20,790 --> 00:32:24,950 S1: like I'm bereft. The psalmist writes, so we have to 567 00:32:24,990 --> 00:32:27,190 S1: keep those in, in tension, don't we? 568 00:32:28,030 --> 00:32:32,110 S2: We do. Yeah. When I was younger, back when the 569 00:32:32,110 --> 00:32:36,030 S2: dinosaurs still roamed the earth, I used to like playing sports. And, uh. 570 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:39,390 S2: And I think there's a lot of analogies to life 571 00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:41,830 S2: through the hard work of sports. You know, you get 572 00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:44,030 S2: into a pretty dark place when you're training or when 573 00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:48,230 S2: you're playing some tough game, and but you learn there. 574 00:32:48,990 --> 00:32:51,190 S2: And so yeah, I do I do think that's the 575 00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:52,350 S2: way it works in life. 576 00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:55,630 S1: Okay. Uh, Chuck, hang on, because I want to go 577 00:32:55,630 --> 00:32:59,870 S1: to this idea of prayer, which is what Adam just mentioned. 578 00:32:59,910 --> 00:33:02,070 S1: There is a section then. So the first half of 579 00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:05,830 S1: the book is knowing God, and the second half is 580 00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:10,830 S1: following him. And in this section, uh, page 131 Following 581 00:33:10,830 --> 00:33:13,990 S1: God with prayer, there's a certain mystery to the effectiveness 582 00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:17,100 S1: of prayer. Why is it that the Almighty God uses 583 00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:21,180 S1: our prayers to accomplish his will? However, we slice and 584 00:33:21,180 --> 00:33:25,980 S1: dice the philosophical conundrum. There is no question God listens 585 00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:29,219 S1: when we pray with the right spirit and in humility 586 00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:33,420 S1: of heart. So real quickly, walk us through some of 587 00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:36,540 S1: these verses that you have included that every Christian ought 588 00:33:36,540 --> 00:33:37,540 S1: to know about prayer. 589 00:33:38,540 --> 00:33:43,500 S2: Okay. Yeah. So Psalm 145, verse 18, the Lord is 590 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:47,140 S2: near to all who call on him, to all who 591 00:33:47,140 --> 00:33:51,420 S2: call on him in truth. What a wonderful promise. You may. 592 00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:54,060 S2: It doesn't always feel like that, does it? When we're praying, 593 00:33:54,060 --> 00:33:56,940 S2: sometimes it feels like the prayers are bouncing off the ceiling, 594 00:33:56,980 --> 00:33:59,380 S2: as it were. But here we know that God is 595 00:33:59,380 --> 00:34:03,140 S2: near to us. And if we call him in truth, 596 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:06,660 S2: that is in sincerity. So the subjective sense of truth, 597 00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:09,460 S2: but also objective truth, that is, we're calling on the 598 00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:13,969 S2: God who is true. Wonderful promise. Nehemiah one, verse six 599 00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:17,450 S2: Nehemiah is praying one of the great prayers in the Bible. 600 00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:20,609 S2: Let your ear be attentive and your eyes open to 601 00:34:20,650 --> 00:34:23,050 S2: hear the prayer your servant is praying before you day 602 00:34:23,050 --> 00:34:26,049 S2: and night for your servants, the people of Israel. I 603 00:34:26,090 --> 00:34:30,969 S2: confess the sins we Israelites, including myself and my father's family, 604 00:34:31,489 --> 00:34:34,330 S2: have committed against you. And and and it goes on 605 00:34:34,330 --> 00:34:37,450 S2: that whole passage, Nehemiah is begging for God's mercy as 606 00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:39,890 S2: he's about to take a very bold step and ask 607 00:34:39,890 --> 00:34:41,609 S2: a favor before a king so that he can go 608 00:34:41,610 --> 00:34:45,930 S2: back and be involved in bringing renewal to God's people. 609 00:34:45,930 --> 00:34:49,250 S2: And that's a wonderful, wonderful. So there are there are 610 00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:52,049 S2: prayers in the Bible. There are prayers and there are 611 00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:55,650 S2: the model prayers. Nehemiah is a wonderful model prayer. Matthew 612 00:34:55,690 --> 00:34:59,330 S2: seven seven ask and it be given to you. Seek 613 00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:01,530 S2: and you will find. Knock and it will be opened 614 00:35:01,530 --> 00:35:05,170 S2: to you. It calls us to persistence. So not just asking, 615 00:35:05,170 --> 00:35:09,730 S2: but seeking. Not just seeking, but knocking. And I you know, 616 00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:14,080 S2: you can read books and think about the the philosophical conundrum, 617 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,840 S2: but also the theological depths of how prayer works. And 618 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,680 S2: and this isn't that kind of book. This is a 619 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,200 S2: very practical kind of book. So there's a lot there. 620 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,239 S2: But at a practical level, um, God, in his wisdom 621 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:31,320 S2: does call us to, uh, importunate prayer that is persistent, 622 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,319 S2: prevailing prayer. It almost sometimes feels like you need to 623 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,440 S2: sort of push through somehow until you. The Puritans used 624 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,000 S2: to say, pray until you pray, which I found very 625 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,360 S2: helpful over the years. So you keep on praying and praying, 626 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,400 S2: and then finally, you feel like you're actually praying. 627 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,400 S5: That's good. 628 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,719 S1: Now the next verse is one that if you take 629 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,880 S1: it out of context, you can get a whole lot 630 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,680 S1: of trouble. John 1414 if you ask anything in my name, 631 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,240 S1: I will do it. And I've heard people use that, 632 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,520 S1: you know, for a new car or or whatever. Uh, 633 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,360 S1: unpack that one for me. 634 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,880 S2: Well, first, just in the verse itself, in my name. 635 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,919 S2: It doesn't mean we do often pray. When we pray 636 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,680 S2: at the end of a prayer, we say In Jesus name, 637 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,120 S2: which is I often do that. It's a wonderful thing 638 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,800 S2: to do. But when the Lord says, here, um, ask 639 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,279 S2: anything in my name, he's not just saying, uh, you know, 640 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,120 S2: at the end of the prayer, if you say tag 641 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,600 S2: on in Jesus. In Jesus name, it'll be done. What 642 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:40,120 S2: he's saying there is, if you ask, in accordance with 643 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,240 S2: my will as reflected by my character. So the name, 644 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,520 S2: the Bible reflects who the person is, then? Yes, then 645 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,960 S2: I will do that. So then to have that kind 646 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,480 S2: of confidence in prayer, it's very important we learn to 647 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,160 S2: pray the Bible. So again, Bible verses here about prayer. 648 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,319 S2: So the more sure we are this is something that 649 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,400 S2: God actually has promised. That is it's in Jesus name. 650 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,350 S2: It's a reflect of his character and his will. And 651 00:37:09,350 --> 00:37:12,790 S2: the more sure we are that that prayer will be answered. Yes. So. 652 00:37:13,150 --> 00:37:15,989 S2: And the God's name to be hallowed, that prayer will 653 00:37:15,989 --> 00:37:16,630 S2: be answered. 654 00:37:17,310 --> 00:37:21,190 S1: The greatest example of that, you know, ask whatever it is. 655 00:37:21,230 --> 00:37:25,190 S1: Ask whatever you want is in the garden. When Jesus says, 656 00:37:25,230 --> 00:37:27,750 S1: if this cup can pass from me, you know this 657 00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:31,390 S1: is what I want. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours 658 00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:35,509 S1: be done. Yeah. That is you know, that's a foundational 659 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:36,709 S1: verse too, isn't it? 660 00:37:36,989 --> 00:37:40,230 S2: Yeah. It is. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. 661 00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:43,430 S1: Uh, let me go to Chuck in Florida. Chuck, tell 662 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:44,830 S1: me why you called today. 663 00:37:45,870 --> 00:37:48,989 S6: Uh, I'll tell you, uh, at the very at the 664 00:37:48,989 --> 00:37:52,629 S6: very beginning. Beginning of the conversation, uh, it was kind 665 00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:54,790 S6: of like going. It's kind of hard to read the word, 666 00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:57,750 S6: but I want to tell you, I have 36 chapters 667 00:37:58,750 --> 00:38:02,950 S6: of the Bible memorized. And every morning I go through 668 00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:05,950 S6: those 36 chapters, it takes me 2.5 hours. But I 669 00:38:06,190 --> 00:38:08,299 S6: got but I ain't got a television set or something 670 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:11,700 S6: like that. Those were distractions. But, uh, my word, I 671 00:38:11,739 --> 00:38:15,700 S6: got born again. I've been in the Army. In 1976, 672 00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:19,300 S6: I was getting kicked out, and I had a Gideon Bible, 673 00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:22,220 S6: and I read it straight through. I had a vision 674 00:38:22,219 --> 00:38:25,299 S6: of Jesus, and they seen the change in me and 675 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:27,420 S6: sent me to the white House as part of the 676 00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:30,940 S6: honor guard. But this is the verse I preached. Uh, uh, 677 00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:36,220 S6: obviously I'm a preacher, then said Jesus to those Jews 678 00:38:36,219 --> 00:38:39,580 S6: which believed on him, if you continue in my word, 679 00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:42,620 S6: then are you my disciples indeed? And you shall know 680 00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:45,819 S6: the truth, and the truth shall set you free. That, um, 681 00:38:45,940 --> 00:38:49,859 S6: one of the chapters I have memorized is John 617, 18, 19, 682 00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:52,540 S6: and 20. But that truth is God's Spirit, you know. 683 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:56,700 S6: And that Bible says in John 1421, those that love 684 00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:00,339 S6: me love my word. I mean, you know, and John ten, 685 00:39:00,340 --> 00:39:02,940 S6: I got memorized and says, my sheep hear my voice 686 00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:04,980 S6: and they follow me. You know, it's the there's a 687 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:06,130 S6: lot going on then. mean. 688 00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:09,569 S1: I can tell how excited you are, Chuck. I can 689 00:39:09,570 --> 00:39:12,290 S1: tell how excited. And you'll be excited to know that 690 00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:15,090 S1: on Thursday, we're going to come back to that very 691 00:39:15,130 --> 00:39:18,210 S1: thing that you just mentioned. And that is the power 692 00:39:18,210 --> 00:39:22,569 S1: of memorizing God's word that's coming up on Thursday. We're 693 00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:24,090 S1: up against a break here. I want to take a 694 00:39:24,090 --> 00:39:26,489 S1: quick break. I want to let Josh respond to what 695 00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:29,410 S1: Chuck was saying. All of these chapters that he has 696 00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:32,690 S1: memorized and hidden in his heart, as well as the 697 00:39:32,690 --> 00:39:36,489 S1: verses that he just quoted for us right there. And 698 00:39:36,489 --> 00:39:38,529 S1: we'll go to our Facebook page, too, and we'll hear 699 00:39:38,530 --> 00:39:53,770 S1: from some people. This is Chris Fabry live on Moody Radio. Okay. 700 00:39:53,770 --> 00:39:55,570 S1: So I told you what's going to happen on Thursday. 701 00:39:55,570 --> 00:39:59,290 S1: We're going to talk about Bible memorization tomorrow. Joanna Weaver 702 00:39:59,290 --> 00:40:02,529 S1: is coming back because I heard what she had to 703 00:40:02,530 --> 00:40:07,359 S1: say about reading the entire Bible, but reading it chronologically. 704 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,479 S1: But here's the the thing that she emailed me after 705 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,800 S1: I asked her to be on the program. She said, 706 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,480 S1: when I first started trying to read the entire Bible 707 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,560 S1: in a year, I got really discouraged with it. It 708 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,759 S1: got really kind of stuck with it, and it actually 709 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,439 S1: made me go away from the scriptures. So if that's 710 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,320 S1: the way that you feel with Bible reading, if it's 711 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,719 S1: just kind of lays there dry and dusty, make sure 712 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,520 S1: you listen tomorrow to Joanna. And then on Friday we're 713 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,600 S1: going to go to the Psalms. And my pal John 714 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,200 S1: Gager is going to talk about how to change your 715 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,240 S1: thought life by reading the Psalms. That's what we're doing 716 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,719 S1: all this week. Today it's doctor Josh Moody, and we've 717 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,240 S1: just heard this great, uh, these verses from the eighth 718 00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,000 S1: chapter of the book of John where Jesus says of 719 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,479 S1: if you, you will know the truth, and the truth 720 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,149 S1: will set you free if you continue. My word. You 721 00:41:05,150 --> 00:41:07,430 S1: really are my disciples. You will know the truth, and 722 00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:09,989 S1: the truth will set you free. Respond to that. Josh. 723 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:14,630 S2: Yeah. Um. Well, a wonderful verse and a wonderful testimony. 724 00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:18,630 S2: Just heard about memorizing scripture. Amen and amen. Uh, the 725 00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:23,950 S2: that verse, of course, is in the, uh, in, in context, 726 00:41:23,989 --> 00:41:26,030 S2: we've talked a little bit of times about in context, 727 00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:28,109 S2: you know, what kind of truth is we talking about? 728 00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:31,390 S2: Not not the truth about mathematics and all the truth about, 729 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:33,550 S2: you know, chemistry or something. It's the kind of truth. 730 00:41:33,590 --> 00:41:36,870 S2: And right before, in the context, Jesus is in debate 731 00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:39,830 S2: with the religious leaders of the time who are struggling 732 00:41:39,870 --> 00:41:41,790 S2: to accept him and many of them rejecting him. And 733 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:44,469 S2: he said, verse 28, So Jesus said to them, when 734 00:41:44,469 --> 00:41:47,550 S2: you've lifted up the Son of Man, that is when 735 00:41:47,550 --> 00:41:50,509 S2: Jesus goes to the cross, then you will know that 736 00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:53,469 S2: I am he. Then you'll know that I am, and 737 00:41:53,469 --> 00:41:55,470 S2: that I do nothing on my own authority. Speak just 738 00:41:55,469 --> 00:41:58,070 S2: as the father taught me. So the truth that Jesus 739 00:41:58,070 --> 00:42:00,350 S2: is speaking about is the truth of who Jesus is, 740 00:42:00,350 --> 00:42:03,620 S2: that he's the Son of God, that when he's crucified, 741 00:42:03,620 --> 00:42:07,460 S2: it reveals his glory. Which is the second half of 742 00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:10,140 S2: John is sometimes called the Book of Glory. It shows. 743 00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:13,180 S2: It shows who he is at the cross. And so 744 00:42:13,180 --> 00:42:15,460 S2: the truth that sets us free is the truth that 745 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:18,700 S2: when the truth of who Jesus is and we're set free, 746 00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:24,540 S2: when we follow him as the Christ and are saved 747 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:28,060 S2: by his death and resurrection for us, that's the truth 748 00:42:28,060 --> 00:42:29,140 S2: that sets us free. 749 00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:33,259 S1: Um, there's so much to say here. If you go 750 00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:38,219 S1: to Chris, click through today's information. You'll see Bible verses 751 00:42:38,219 --> 00:42:42,380 S1: every Christian should know on our Facebook page. We had 752 00:42:42,380 --> 00:42:46,060 S1: a number of people respond. Bailey said this and I agree. Bailey. 753 00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,339 S1: Ephesians two eight and nine. And this is the other 754 00:42:49,340 --> 00:42:53,100 S1: thing I like about your book, Josh, you use different verses. 755 00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:56,460 S1: Bailey quotes it in the King James because there's just 756 00:42:56,460 --> 00:43:01,819 S1: something magisterial about for by grace are ye saved through faith, 757 00:43:02,060 --> 00:43:05,180 S1: and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God, 758 00:43:05,380 --> 00:43:09,180 S1: not of works, lest any man should boast. And then 759 00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:13,020 S1: I love the then the next verse. For we are 760 00:43:13,060 --> 00:43:20,020 S1: his workmanship, that we have to understand that that helps 761 00:43:20,020 --> 00:43:22,940 S1: us understand what salvation really is, right, Josh? 762 00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:26,259 S2: It helps us understand what salvation really is. It helps 763 00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:32,340 S2: us put into the right sequence our effort, our work 764 00:43:32,340 --> 00:43:36,940 S2: for Jesus. Because of his work for us. We're created 765 00:43:36,940 --> 00:43:41,460 S2: to do something amazing where his masterpiece, his workmanship. Uh, 766 00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:43,900 S2: we're not saved by works, but by faith, by his grace. 767 00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:46,379 S2: And then, having been saved, were created for something. We 768 00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:52,980 S2: become his. His masterpiece of becoming essentially more like Christ 769 00:43:53,020 --> 00:43:56,460 S2: as the is the goal of his work in us. Yeah, 770 00:43:56,460 --> 00:43:58,980 S2: it's a it's a one of the first sermons I 771 00:43:58,980 --> 00:44:01,169 S2: preached in a church not the first time I preach. 772 00:44:01,210 --> 00:44:03,170 S2: One of the first times I preached in a church 773 00:44:03,890 --> 00:44:08,570 S2: was on that, uh, Ephesians chapter two. Yeah. So, yeah. Great. 774 00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:10,170 S5: So rich. It is so rich. 775 00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:13,169 S1: And and the, the thing that that excites me every 776 00:44:13,170 --> 00:44:16,930 S1: time I read that passage is that we were created 777 00:44:16,930 --> 00:44:21,890 S1: in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared ahead 778 00:44:21,890 --> 00:44:25,410 S1: of time in advance, that we should walk in them. 779 00:44:25,410 --> 00:44:30,450 S1: So it's like God created God. Uh, he chose us 780 00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:33,609 S1: in him before the foundation of the world, so that 781 00:44:33,610 --> 00:44:36,330 S1: we could do the works that he prepared in advance 782 00:44:36,330 --> 00:44:38,529 S1: for us to do. That's what you're doing today. That's 783 00:44:38,530 --> 00:44:40,890 S1: what you're doing on this program. As we talk about 784 00:44:40,890 --> 00:44:44,490 S1: these these texts, that that's what you do every Sunday 785 00:44:44,489 --> 00:44:47,609 S1: when you preach in, in at the church, that in 786 00:44:47,610 --> 00:44:51,410 S1: college church, you're doing the work that God has prepared 787 00:44:51,410 --> 00:44:52,770 S1: in advance for you to do. 788 00:44:54,969 --> 00:44:56,370 S2: An amazing thought, isn't it? 789 00:44:56,650 --> 00:44:57,290 S5: Yes. 790 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,680 S1: Comforting. It's a comforting thought because it's not all about 791 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,560 S1: me and what I can come up with and great 792 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,400 S1: thing I can do about God. All I got to 793 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,400 S1: do is step into what he has given me to do. Uh, 794 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,680 S1: so answer the question, what are you preaching about this Sunday? 795 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,600 S2: Uh, we're in Matthew's gospel. We're just going into a 796 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,480 S2: new section of it. We're talking about the truth about 797 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,400 S2: Jesus from the end of Matthew 13. Wonderful opportunity to 798 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,000 S2: come along and invite friends the truth about Jesus. 799 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,759 S5: Love it. Uh, talk to. 800 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,400 S1: The person real quickly. 30s who says, I read the Bible? 801 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,239 S1: It's dry and dusty. It's. I don't get anything out 802 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,279 S1: of it. Uh, it just lays there. What do you 803 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,319 S1: say to that person? 804 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,440 S2: Uh, be a long pastoral conversation. Probably. But the quickest 805 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,320 S2: thing I would say is make sure you don't start 806 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,080 S2: with Leviticus. You know, some bits are easier than others. 807 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,480 S2: You know, start with Philippians or something like that and 808 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,360 S2: take it easy, you know, take just a few verses 809 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:53,960 S2: at a time. 810 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,920 S1: Yes. 811 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,990 S2: Pray ask for the spirit to be at work. 812 00:45:57,390 --> 00:45:58,029 S1: Because. 813 00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:58,670 S2: Thoughts? 814 00:45:59,110 --> 00:46:02,350 S1: Yes. Because it's a relationship. Because this is not about 815 00:46:02,350 --> 00:46:05,270 S1: you getting in your quota. This is about you interacting 816 00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:08,229 S1: with God and letting him interact with you, I love it. 817 00:46:08,469 --> 00:46:11,069 S1: And what a great way to start the year. Doctor Moody, 818 00:46:11,110 --> 00:46:13,350 S1: thanks a lot for joining us here at the Back 819 00:46:13,390 --> 00:46:16,230 S1: Fence today. God bless you. And, uh, in your ministry. 820 00:46:17,110 --> 00:46:19,350 S2: Thank you so much for having me on. Really, I'm 821 00:46:19,350 --> 00:46:22,070 S2: very grateful. And the Lord's blessing on you and your word. 822 00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:27,669 S1: Doctor. Josh Moody Bible verses every Christian should know. It's 823 00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:31,549 S1: our featured resource at Chris Fabry Lives. 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