1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,000 S1: Oh, I have been looking forward to this program because 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,600 S1: someone is going to be given permission to do something 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,920 S1: that is going to change their life for the good. 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,079 S1: I believe that because it happened to me when we 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,280 S1: had our guest on the first time and then the 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,840 S1: second time on this topic, we've been talking all week 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,200 S1: about the Bible as we begin 2026 and kind of 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,680 S1: encouraging you to get into the scriptures daily, the verses 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,040 S1: every Christian ought to know. We talked about reading through 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,920 S1: the Bible in a year, the positives and the pitfalls 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,160 S1: of that. How do you make daily Bible study a conversation, 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,640 S1: a relationship rather than a duty? And today we come 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,960 S1: to the topic of memorization. Do you have verses memorized 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,400 S1: that come back to you at moments of crisis? One 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,200 S1: of my contentions here today is that, as we've talked 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,040 S1: about Robert Smith's health situation since Christmas Eve, I guarantee 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,970 S1: you there are verses that Nancy, his wife memorized that 18 00:01:02,970 --> 00:01:05,970 S1: have washed over her soul as she's gone through this 19 00:01:05,970 --> 00:01:09,530 S1: deep valley with him. So there's so much good that 20 00:01:09,530 --> 00:01:12,090 S1: can happen in your life if you hide God's Word 21 00:01:12,090 --> 00:01:17,450 S1: in your heart. But if that's true, if you believe that, 22 00:01:17,490 --> 00:01:19,410 S1: why don't we do it more often? Why don't we 23 00:01:19,410 --> 00:01:22,130 S1: have more of it hidden? And that's not to shame 24 00:01:22,130 --> 00:01:24,610 S1: you or me. It's just to ask the question. Why 25 00:01:24,610 --> 00:01:26,770 S1: don't you do it more often? Well, if you're like me, 26 00:01:26,770 --> 00:01:29,569 S1: it's easy to say my brain doesn't hold information like 27 00:01:29,569 --> 00:01:32,169 S1: that anymore. That's what I said to Glen and Marshall 28 00:01:32,170 --> 00:01:34,090 S1: when we first talked about this. And she said, Chris, 29 00:01:34,130 --> 00:01:36,770 S1: you are wrong, wrong, wrong. She said it nicer than that, 30 00:01:36,770 --> 00:01:39,490 S1: but that was basically her message. You can do this 31 00:01:39,930 --> 00:01:42,410 S1: no matter your age, no matter your stage in life, 32 00:01:42,410 --> 00:01:44,610 S1: you can do this. So let's get started. Here's the 33 00:01:44,610 --> 00:01:47,130 S1: question I want you to answer today as you listen. 34 00:01:47,610 --> 00:01:51,450 S1: What verse or passage have you memorized and when did 35 00:01:51,450 --> 00:01:55,330 S1: that passage mean the most to you? In other words, 36 00:01:55,330 --> 00:01:57,410 S1: at some point in your life, that verse that you 37 00:01:57,410 --> 00:02:02,150 S1: had memorized came back to you in real life and 38 00:02:02,150 --> 00:02:04,550 S1: made a difference. Do you have something like, is that 39 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:07,510 S1: something like that ever happened? Your answer might be just 40 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:14,549 S1: the thing somebody else needs to hear today. (877) 548-3675 is 41 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:16,630 S1: our number. We begin with a thank you to Ryan 42 00:02:16,630 --> 00:02:20,190 S1: McConaughey doing all things technical. Trish is our producer. Lisa 43 00:02:20,190 --> 00:02:23,750 S1: is going to be answering your calls and real quickly partners. 44 00:02:23,750 --> 00:02:25,750 S1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I want to mention 45 00:02:25,750 --> 00:02:29,389 S1: back Fence Partners because in December we were hoping we 46 00:02:29,389 --> 00:02:31,790 S1: have a goal each month. We were hoping that seven 47 00:02:31,790 --> 00:02:37,270 S1: listeners would become monthly partners, meaning this program's listener supported. 48 00:02:37,270 --> 00:02:40,030 S1: We depend on you to have these conversations, and a 49 00:02:40,030 --> 00:02:43,350 S1: partner gives a gift of any size each month and 50 00:02:43,350 --> 00:02:47,430 S1: receives one thing they receive my weekly back fence post, 51 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:50,470 S1: which is a video. And sometimes sometimes I don't comb 52 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:53,429 S1: my hair, so don't judge me for that. Today's video 53 00:02:53,470 --> 00:02:55,790 S1: you have to see this. We talked with Keith Getty 54 00:02:55,830 --> 00:03:00,079 S1: about his sing hymnal in December. And there was one 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,800 S1: hymn I noticed that had been changed slightly, and we 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,960 S1: didn't have time during the program to talk about it. 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,080 S1: So afterward, we recorded this conversation, and our partners are 58 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,600 S1: getting that today. It's fascinating why they changed the text 59 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,960 S1: of this hymn. If you are a partner, follow the link, 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,440 S1: open that up and you'll hear Keith's explanation. That's the 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,040 S1: kind we sing, the kind of sing. That's the kind 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,080 S1: of thing we send out as part of our thank 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,680 S1: you to partners every week. So come on, become a 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,080 S1: jump into partner pool today, 866, nine five or go 65 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,480 S1: to Chris. Of course you can give a one time 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,640 S1: gift as well. But I want to especially highlight partners. 67 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,680 S1: I mentioned we had a goal of seven people in 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,840 S1: December 16th signed up. So come on. Thank you. Thank you. 69 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:56,890 S1: Partners go to Chris. Glenn Marshall is married to her pastor, William. 70 00:03:56,890 --> 00:04:00,210 S1: She's the mother of two sons. She's the author of 71 00:04:00,210 --> 00:04:06,210 S1: The Promise is His Presence, Everyday Faithfulness, Known and Loved. 72 00:04:06,210 --> 00:04:09,050 S1: And today's resource we're coming back to again. I can't 73 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:13,530 S1: get away from it. Memorizing scripture, the basics, blessings and 74 00:04:13,530 --> 00:04:17,089 S1: benefits of meditating on God's Word. She's a member of 75 00:04:17,089 --> 00:04:20,290 S1: Grace Fellowship in Sikeston, Missouri, where she and her husband 76 00:04:20,330 --> 00:04:23,570 S1: have served for more than 20 years. Glennon. Welcome back. 77 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:25,010 S1: Can you tell? I'm excited. 78 00:04:25,690 --> 00:04:27,690 S2: I'm so glad to be back. And here's what I 79 00:04:27,690 --> 00:04:30,810 S2: love about this, because anytime I talk to someone about 80 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:33,690 S2: scripture memorization and then they go and they do it, 81 00:04:34,089 --> 00:04:37,090 S2: what happens is what happened to me is that it 82 00:04:37,089 --> 00:04:42,250 S2: almost becomes your personality. You see how powerful and transformative 83 00:04:42,250 --> 00:04:43,770 S2: it is in your life, and then you can't stop 84 00:04:43,770 --> 00:04:45,370 S2: talking about it. This is why I had to write 85 00:04:45,370 --> 00:04:47,410 S2: a book, because I could not shut up about it. 86 00:04:47,450 --> 00:04:50,609 S2: And so I love that it just caught you like that. 87 00:04:50,650 --> 00:04:51,330 S2: I love it. 88 00:04:51,370 --> 00:04:54,380 S1: Bingo. Well, I had done this earlier in my life. 89 00:04:54,380 --> 00:04:56,460 S1: And then it went to Moody Bible Institute, and there 90 00:04:56,460 --> 00:04:58,980 S1: were central passages, and you had to memorize these central 91 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:03,020 S1: passages and hide them away. All good things. But then 92 00:05:03,020 --> 00:05:05,260 S1: you get a little older and you get busy with life, 93 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:07,740 S1: and you do this and my synapses and I can't 94 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:10,739 S1: remember my address. You know, all that kind of stuff. 95 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:13,900 S1: But what you did the last time you were on here, 96 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:16,219 S1: the last couple of times, because we have actually given 97 00:05:16,220 --> 00:05:19,260 S1: this book away to anybody who gives a gift. Um, 98 00:05:19,660 --> 00:05:22,220 S1: what what happened was you gave me permission to go 99 00:05:22,260 --> 00:05:25,900 S1: ahead and try, and you give somebody like me permission 100 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:30,460 S1: and and Katy bar the door. Um, and so that's 101 00:05:30,460 --> 00:05:33,260 S1: what I. That's what I hope will happen today, even 102 00:05:33,260 --> 00:05:36,380 S1: with people who call in with verses that they've memorized, 103 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:39,580 S1: that this, you know, will come back to you at 104 00:05:39,580 --> 00:05:42,580 S1: some point in your life and you'll see maybe why 105 00:05:42,580 --> 00:05:45,219 S1: you memorized that passage. Do you agree with that? 106 00:05:45,260 --> 00:05:48,859 S2: Um, I totally do. And I think also what happens 107 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:50,940 S2: is something maybe you memorized as a child, because that's 108 00:05:50,940 --> 00:05:54,040 S2: when we think scripture memorization is the thing that people do. 109 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,120 S2: It's as kids, right? That's what kids do. And then 110 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,760 S2: we get old and our brains don't work as good. 111 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,640 S2: So we we don't think that we should or even 112 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,120 S2: that we can. And then you have something come back 113 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,279 S2: to you like you're talking about. A passage comes back 114 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,840 S2: that you memorized as a child, and you realize how 115 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,960 S2: powerful it is. And for me, it's been multiple passages 116 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,360 S2: have come back multiple times. And anytime that happens, I'm like, 117 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,120 S2: oh yeah, I need to memorize more. Because just having 118 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,560 S2: that reservoir is just so good for my soul. 119 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,520 S1: This also does something to your brain. I think as 120 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,160 S1: you get older, you know, and you can say, I 121 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,280 S1: can't do that anymore. And you may be right. It 122 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,719 S1: may be more difficult. But doesn't memorization do something to 123 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,880 S1: to the brain to help you to exercise it? 124 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,640 S2: It does. Because the thing is that the brain is 125 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,040 S2: like what they use the word, the word like neuroplasticity, 126 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,719 S2: like it's plastic in a way. And so it can 127 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,169 S2: be trained to do new things even as you age. 128 00:06:53,450 --> 00:06:57,290 S2: And I think we feel the difficulty of remembering new 129 00:06:57,290 --> 00:07:00,370 S2: information or trying to learn a new technology as we 130 00:07:00,370 --> 00:07:03,529 S2: get older. And yet we're kind of cutting ourselves short 131 00:07:03,529 --> 00:07:06,729 S2: because the brain is an amazing organ. And the thing 132 00:07:06,730 --> 00:07:10,530 S2: is that repetition is the thing that makes it tick. 133 00:07:10,530 --> 00:07:13,890 S2: If you really want to try to remember new things, 134 00:07:13,890 --> 00:07:16,210 S2: to learn new things, to try a new even like 135 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:19,290 S2: a new hobby, like to play an instrument or learn 136 00:07:19,290 --> 00:07:21,730 S2: a language, it's repetition is the key. That is what 137 00:07:21,730 --> 00:07:25,690 S2: your brain does. And so the more you teach your brain, 138 00:07:25,690 --> 00:07:29,290 S2: the more you rehearse and repeat things over and over. 139 00:07:29,330 --> 00:07:32,730 S2: I mean, that's how you create more neural pathways to 140 00:07:32,770 --> 00:07:35,970 S2: get to the information you're trying to recall. And I mean, 141 00:07:36,010 --> 00:07:38,850 S2: I think actually it's a great way for those of 142 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:40,930 S2: us who, you know, maybe have some family history of 143 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:43,210 S2: dementia as we age. This is a great way to 144 00:07:43,250 --> 00:07:46,570 S2: exercise your brain and also to remember God created your 145 00:07:46,570 --> 00:07:50,580 S2: brain to to memorize His word. And so it's something 146 00:07:50,580 --> 00:07:52,660 S2: he blesses, even if it feels hard. 147 00:07:53,060 --> 00:07:56,380 S1: I think there is fear in here too, because we 148 00:07:56,380 --> 00:07:59,460 S1: had this yesterday, as we talked about, Joanna Weaver was 149 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:02,060 S1: with us and we talked about reading the Bible through 150 00:08:02,060 --> 00:08:05,100 S1: in a year. And she said that in her life 151 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:09,460 S1: that actually early on repelled her because she got stuck 152 00:08:09,460 --> 00:08:12,140 S1: in Leviticus or numbers or whatever it was. And she 153 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:14,420 S1: gave up and she thought, well, I can't do this. 154 00:08:14,700 --> 00:08:17,620 S1: And so the fear and in another caller yesterday said 155 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:20,620 S1: her fear was that I at my. She was 79. 156 00:08:20,620 --> 00:08:23,180 S1: And she said, my fear is that I won't be 157 00:08:23,220 --> 00:08:26,140 S1: able to finish, that I won't get through it. And 158 00:08:26,140 --> 00:08:29,740 S1: I think it's the same way with Bible memorization that 159 00:08:29,740 --> 00:08:33,219 S1: if you're memorizing a verse or a passage, you're afraid, oh, 160 00:08:33,260 --> 00:08:35,500 S1: I'm going to put all this work in, and then 161 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:37,460 S1: I'm not going to be able to remember it, that 162 00:08:37,460 --> 00:08:40,819 S1: I'm going to be a failure at this. Talk about that, 163 00:08:40,820 --> 00:08:44,100 S1: because I don't think that's your heavenly father whispering that 164 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:45,540 S1: to you, that you're going to fail. 165 00:08:45,580 --> 00:08:48,710 S2: Not at all. I mean, and that's us taking good 166 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:51,990 S2: things like spiritual disciplines that God gave us for our growth, 167 00:08:51,990 --> 00:08:55,990 S2: for our perseverance, for our, you know, nourishing our relationship 168 00:08:55,990 --> 00:08:59,750 S2: with him and then returning it into a skill or 169 00:08:59,790 --> 00:09:03,070 S2: an accomplishment, which is what we do as humans. You know, 170 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:05,190 S2: if we can take something good and turn it into 171 00:09:05,230 --> 00:09:08,350 S2: something troublesome real, real quick. But I think the fear 172 00:09:08,390 --> 00:09:10,190 S2: comes in because we're like, well, I'm not going to 173 00:09:10,190 --> 00:09:11,750 S2: get it right. Therefore I'm not going to do it 174 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:14,830 S2: at all. But we have to remember that our spiritual 175 00:09:14,830 --> 00:09:18,550 S2: disciplines are not just rules for us to follow. They 176 00:09:18,590 --> 00:09:21,670 S2: are pillars of growth in our relationship with God. And 177 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:25,750 S2: so memorizing scripture or even daily Bible reading shouldn't be 178 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:30,310 S2: something that we're trying to perfectly do or perfectly accomplish. 179 00:09:30,510 --> 00:09:33,630 S2: We need to view it as something that aids our 180 00:09:33,630 --> 00:09:37,910 S2: growth and deepens a relationship. And so when you think 181 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:40,790 S2: about relationships and friendships and or even a marriage or 182 00:09:40,790 --> 00:09:43,710 S2: even a relationship with a child, if something goes wrong 183 00:09:43,710 --> 00:09:46,550 S2: or you have an awkward conversation or you have a disagreement, 184 00:09:46,670 --> 00:09:50,210 S2: you don't just quit the relationship. You know, you give 185 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:52,250 S2: it another go. You talk through things again, and you 186 00:09:52,290 --> 00:09:54,250 S2: keep going. And I think we have to remember when 187 00:09:54,250 --> 00:09:56,329 S2: it comes to the things that God has given us 188 00:09:56,330 --> 00:10:02,170 S2: for spiritual growth, it's also nurturing that relationship. He loves us, 189 00:10:02,330 --> 00:10:04,689 S2: and he wants us to grow in our knowledge of him, 190 00:10:04,690 --> 00:10:08,210 S2: because that will deepen our affection for him. And so 191 00:10:08,250 --> 00:10:10,730 S2: I think it all goes back. Yeah, it goes back 192 00:10:10,730 --> 00:10:13,370 S2: to how do we view spiritual disciplines. Is it a 193 00:10:13,370 --> 00:10:16,570 S2: thing to do, or is it a tool for growth 194 00:10:16,570 --> 00:10:20,329 S2: and deepened love? And that change that changed everything for me. 195 00:10:20,370 --> 00:10:24,650 S1: It and it does. It resonates with me right now 196 00:10:24,650 --> 00:10:29,490 S1: because I am by nature an achiever, and I want 197 00:10:29,490 --> 00:10:33,770 S1: to do things to be able to achieve and accomplish things, 198 00:10:33,929 --> 00:10:36,810 S1: to make myself feel better. And maybe there's something in 199 00:10:36,850 --> 00:10:39,410 S1: there that I think if I perform well enough for God, 200 00:10:39,410 --> 00:10:42,170 S1: then he's going to like me better. You know, if 201 00:10:42,170 --> 00:10:45,900 S1: I if I memorize great swaths of scripture, than I get. 202 00:10:45,940 --> 00:10:49,700 S1: You know, a star. I'm going to have a closer 203 00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:52,220 S1: place to him at the table or whatever it is. 204 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:56,340 S1: And it's like, no, if it's about the relationship, then 205 00:10:56,340 --> 00:10:59,580 S1: it's not about how long it takes me to, you know, 206 00:10:59,620 --> 00:11:03,100 S1: to memorize this verse or this passage, what it what 207 00:11:03,140 --> 00:11:08,780 S1: the process is. The his presence is the promise is 208 00:11:08,780 --> 00:11:13,540 S1: presence is the gold here. And so that's what we're 209 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:15,700 S1: going to do today at the back fence. And I 210 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:21,580 S1: want you to answer that question at (877) 548-3675. What verse 211 00:11:21,580 --> 00:11:24,020 S1: would you suggest is what I asked on Facebook? What 212 00:11:24,059 --> 00:11:28,900 S1: verse would you suggest that we memorize and has that verse? 213 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:45,950 S1: If you've memorized it, come back to you. (877) 548-3675. We've 214 00:11:45,950 --> 00:11:49,110 S1: been talking about the Bible all week as this is 215 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:53,910 S1: the first full week of 2026 and Glenn Marshall is 216 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:57,590 S1: back with us. She wrote a book titled Memorizing Scripture 217 00:11:57,630 --> 00:12:01,150 S1: The Basics Blessings and Benefits of Meditating on God's Word 218 00:12:01,190 --> 00:12:04,230 S1: as their featured resource. If you haven't read it, go there. 219 00:12:04,270 --> 00:12:08,030 S1: It's it's a you say, well, what do you need 220 00:12:08,030 --> 00:12:11,710 S1: to tell me about memorizing? I'll tell you, this book 221 00:12:11,710 --> 00:12:13,870 S1: will give you the permission to do it first of 222 00:12:13,870 --> 00:12:16,150 S1: all and say you can do it. But it also 223 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:19,030 S1: has some of these tips, such as one of the 224 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:22,670 S1: most helpful things to me Glenn is trying to do. 225 00:12:22,670 --> 00:12:26,630 S1: This was writing, taking the passage that you want to 226 00:12:26,630 --> 00:12:31,390 S1: memorize and writing down the first letter of each word 227 00:12:31,390 --> 00:12:35,750 S1: in the verse. So you just have these, these letters there, 228 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:38,350 S1: and you have to come up with the, you know, 229 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:41,230 S1: the rest of the word. But if you've got that, 230 00:12:41,230 --> 00:12:46,370 S1: it's like, oh, I sweeter also than honey S80 from 231 00:12:46,370 --> 00:12:49,170 S1: Psalm 19. I've had S80 in there. I looked at 232 00:12:49,170 --> 00:12:52,210 S1: that sweeter also than honey. It's like Seth, why did 233 00:12:52,210 --> 00:12:56,050 S1: I write Seth? No no no, no sweeter also than honey. 234 00:12:56,290 --> 00:13:01,210 S1: And it's, you know, treasuring God's word there. Better than gold, 235 00:13:01,210 --> 00:13:05,210 S1: much better than gold, even much fine gold. Sweeter also 236 00:13:05,250 --> 00:13:08,690 S1: than honey. And drippings of the honeycomb. That's that's from 237 00:13:08,690 --> 00:13:11,130 S1: my synapses that I didn't think I could hang on 238 00:13:11,170 --> 00:13:14,530 S1: to that. And and you helped me do that. So again, 239 00:13:14,530 --> 00:13:15,209 S1: thank you. 240 00:13:15,330 --> 00:13:17,930 S2: I'm so glad. I think that method, which is not 241 00:13:17,929 --> 00:13:21,250 S2: original to me, but it is, has been very helpful 242 00:13:21,290 --> 00:13:23,170 S2: because if you think about it like, let's say you 243 00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:26,090 S2: take a verse like Psalm 23, the Lord is my shepherd, 244 00:13:26,090 --> 00:13:28,929 S2: I shall not want, and you're working on it. Let's 245 00:13:28,929 --> 00:13:31,730 S2: say it's the first time you've ever memorized it and 246 00:13:31,730 --> 00:13:33,650 S2: you think you've got it. The Lord is my shepherd. 247 00:13:33,650 --> 00:13:35,570 S2: I shall not want. And then let's say you close 248 00:13:35,570 --> 00:13:37,209 S2: your Bible and you get out a piece of paper, 249 00:13:37,210 --> 00:13:38,690 S2: and you're going to try to write it, and your 250 00:13:38,690 --> 00:13:42,180 S2: mind goes completely blank. So if you will work on 251 00:13:42,179 --> 00:13:44,740 S2: a tricky verse or a tricky passage or something that's 252 00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:48,020 S2: just new, and you just write down the first letter 253 00:13:48,020 --> 00:13:50,739 S2: of each word and you do that a few times, 254 00:13:50,740 --> 00:13:53,700 S2: that's all your brain needs. It will fill in the blanks, 255 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:56,100 S2: which I actually think is amazing. And then if you are, 256 00:13:56,340 --> 00:13:58,939 S2: maybe you're going to try to do a longer passage. 257 00:13:58,940 --> 00:14:02,740 S2: Nothing helps review go more quickly than that first letter 258 00:14:02,740 --> 00:14:05,459 S2: method because your brain wants to go faster. It wants 259 00:14:05,460 --> 00:14:08,060 S2: to go with the speed that you speak, not at 260 00:14:08,059 --> 00:14:11,500 S2: the speed that you write. And so cutting it down 261 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:14,059 S2: to one first letter of each word. That's really all 262 00:14:14,059 --> 00:14:16,100 S2: your brain needs. I mean, it's really, truly amazing the 263 00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:17,820 S2: way the Lord has created our brains. 264 00:14:18,059 --> 00:14:23,220 S1: The other thing that freed me up was you said, 265 00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:26,740 S1: don't try to be perfectionistic with this, and I'm a 266 00:14:26,740 --> 00:14:29,540 S1: very perfect. If I'm going to memorize this thing, I'm 267 00:14:29,540 --> 00:14:32,020 S1: going to get every I'm going to get the commas right, 268 00:14:32,060 --> 00:14:34,460 S1: not just the words, you know. Is this a singular 269 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:37,620 S1: or plural? Here I'm going to guess. Is it sky 270 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:41,870 S1: or sky's uh, in the in the Psalm 19. I'm 271 00:14:41,870 --> 00:14:43,830 S1: going to get all of that right. And you freed 272 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:48,710 S1: me up to say, look, don't if you memorize it 273 00:14:48,750 --> 00:14:53,630 S1: exactly right. Wonderful. But don't let that hold you back. Right? 274 00:14:54,270 --> 00:14:57,950 S2: Right. I mean, perfection. I mean, that really resonates with 275 00:14:57,950 --> 00:14:59,870 S2: me because I am I'm a very type A person. 276 00:14:59,870 --> 00:15:01,590 S2: I'm going to do everything myself. I'm not going to 277 00:15:01,630 --> 00:15:03,150 S2: ask for help. I'm going to do it myself because 278 00:15:03,150 --> 00:15:05,470 S2: I'm going to do it better than everybody else. And 279 00:15:05,470 --> 00:15:08,310 S2: so I am a perfectionist in that way. And and 280 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:10,830 S2: that can give you a fear of failure that keeps 281 00:15:10,830 --> 00:15:12,910 S2: you from even starting. You're like, I'm not even going 282 00:15:12,910 --> 00:15:14,510 S2: to do it because I know I can't get it perfectly, 283 00:15:14,510 --> 00:15:16,950 S2: so I'm not even going to try. And the thing is, 284 00:15:16,950 --> 00:15:21,110 S2: is that our goal in memorization is not perfect recitation. 285 00:15:21,150 --> 00:15:22,910 S2: I mean, it would be nice if you could recite 286 00:15:22,910 --> 00:15:26,190 S2: it word for word, and many times you will, with 287 00:15:26,190 --> 00:15:29,830 S2: a lot of repetition and practice and rehearsing. But our 288 00:15:29,830 --> 00:15:33,990 S2: goal with scripture memorization is never recitation. Our goal is 289 00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:38,390 S2: transformation because it is the daily work that you do 290 00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:41,000 S2: in and trying to remember the words and you know, 291 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,280 S2: why did David use this adjective? Or why this imagery? 292 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,320 S2: What is the Lord saying when he describes himself like this? 293 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,280 S2: It's that process that you're thinking through to store those 294 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,160 S2: words in your heart and mind that is changing you. 295 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,280 S2: That's that's where the the gold is in the process. 296 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,280 S2: Because in all our spiritual disciplines, it's not the end 297 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,880 S2: goal of completing the task. It is the digging. It's 298 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,680 S2: the reading. It's the studying. It's the working those words 299 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,480 S2: down into your heart, soul and mind. That's where the 300 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,680 S2: Holy Spirit is changing you with his powerful word. So 301 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,840 S2: I mean, it is all about the journey. 302 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,120 S1: Here it is. It's about the process, not just the outcome. 303 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,480 S1: But here's the thing. And we'll go to your calls. (877) 548-3675. 304 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,760 S1: I want to hear what verses you memorized and how 305 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,240 S1: those kind of came back to you. If they did, 306 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,440 S1: or suggest a passage that you think we ought to memorize. 307 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,020 S1: But even last night I was having trouble sleeping. And there's, 308 00:16:39,060 --> 00:16:41,420 S1: you know, stuff going on. And I'm thinking about Robert 309 00:16:41,460 --> 00:16:45,740 S1: Wolgemuth and the update that Nancy gave yesterday. That was 310 00:16:46,060 --> 00:16:49,340 S1: not what she wanted to to send out and and 311 00:16:49,540 --> 00:16:52,660 S1: not what we wanted to read about his situation there. 312 00:16:52,660 --> 00:16:56,140 S1: And you can read that more at caringbridge. Keep praying 313 00:16:56,140 --> 00:17:00,460 S1: for for Robert and Nancy and all those around him. 314 00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:03,540 S1: But I woke up. It was like 3:00 in the morning. 315 00:17:03,580 --> 00:17:06,860 S1: I said, okay, I'm going back to Psalm 63. And 316 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:15,340 S1: I got into. The very first part of it. Uh oh, God. See, 317 00:17:15,380 --> 00:17:16,820 S1: now I can't do would you put me on the 318 00:17:16,820 --> 00:17:19,180 S1: spot or you didn't put me on the spot? Uh, 319 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:22,619 S1: I always think of of, uh, Rich Mullins when I 320 00:17:22,619 --> 00:17:25,380 S1: get to this. Oh, God, you are my God. Earnestly 321 00:17:25,380 --> 00:17:29,100 S1: I seek you. And there's these three. My souls. My 322 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:31,820 S1: soul thirsts for you at the very beginning. And then 323 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:34,379 S1: my soul will be satisfied. And then my soul clings 324 00:17:34,380 --> 00:17:36,710 S1: to you a little bit down. So it's like it's 325 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:40,310 S1: perfect way to hang on to my soles. But when 326 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:44,470 S1: I got to the place where I was supposed to remember. 327 00:17:44,750 --> 00:17:47,990 S1: So I have looked upon you in the sanctuary, beholding 328 00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:51,470 S1: your power and glory, I couldn't. I got the so. 329 00:17:51,470 --> 00:17:54,750 S1: But I couldn't remember. And I remembered sanctuary. But what 330 00:17:54,750 --> 00:17:57,550 S1: was the stuff in the middle? What's the stuff in 331 00:17:57,550 --> 00:18:00,230 S1: the middle? I started getting frustrated. I started getting this 332 00:18:00,230 --> 00:18:03,470 S1: self-talk is, you see, you're not you're not very good 333 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:07,190 S1: at this whole thing. And then when I woke up, 334 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:11,670 S1: you know, a couple hours, three, four hours later, I 335 00:18:11,710 --> 00:18:15,109 S1: got into into here and I started it over again 336 00:18:15,390 --> 00:18:19,590 S1: and I got it absolutely correctly. You know, I'm really, 337 00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:23,350 S1: really close. That came back to me. And I think 338 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:27,389 S1: that tells me that sometimes when I'm tired, sometimes when 339 00:18:27,390 --> 00:18:31,669 S1: I'm stressed, sometimes when I, you know, I can't pull 340 00:18:31,670 --> 00:18:35,520 S1: those words back out, that there's something else going on 341 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,680 S1: and I give myself space for that. Do you agree 342 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,360 S1: with that? 343 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,399 S2: I do. And as you're describing this, I'm thinking you're 344 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,399 S2: only human, Chris. You know, you, uh, you do have limitations. 345 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,480 S2: As amazing as your brain is. It's the middle of 346 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,560 S2: the night, and you're tired and groggy, and, you know, 347 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,920 S2: you actually knew that scripture better than you thought. And 348 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,800 S2: I think, you know, if you get to a point 349 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,760 S2: like that, where, I mean, I've had many times in 350 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,640 S2: the night where I can't sleep and I go to 351 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,280 S2: a verse or a passage and roll through that kind 352 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,080 S2: of mental Rolodex of scripture until I go to sleep. 353 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,520 S2: And if I can't remember a passage, I just go 354 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,600 S2: back to the part I can say verbatim, because there's 355 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,440 S2: something for me there to just meditate on. 356 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,160 S1: If you can't remember it, go to the part, part 357 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,320 S1: of it. Go to the part you can remember. Um, okay, 358 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,520 S1: so here's what I want to do. Open the lines 359 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,880 S1: of your verse that you suggest here. Today might be 360 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,760 S1: the very thing that somebody else needs to hear, or 361 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,730 S1: that they would hear you talk about this memorization thing, 362 00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:42,330 S1: get excited about it and try it themselves. (877) 548-3675. Jessica 363 00:19:42,330 --> 00:19:44,690 S1: is up first. Jessica, why'd you call today? 364 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:50,570 S3: Um, so I wanted to share of Psalm 27. Um, 365 00:19:50,810 --> 00:19:54,450 S3: I memorized that last summer. I was doing a Bible 366 00:19:54,450 --> 00:19:58,010 S3: study on it, specifically with a group of ladies, and 367 00:19:58,050 --> 00:20:01,170 S3: it was a nine week Bible study. So each week 368 00:20:01,170 --> 00:20:03,729 S3: I broke it down to memorize it by the end 369 00:20:03,730 --> 00:20:08,090 S3: of the study. Um, and then I realized after the 370 00:20:08,090 --> 00:20:14,010 S3: study and I kept reciting it, uh, weekly to retain it. Um, 371 00:20:14,170 --> 00:20:18,170 S3: and I still do um, to I was reciting it 372 00:20:18,170 --> 00:20:21,930 S3: and paying attention to the words and realized that it 373 00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:28,090 S3: describes my life currently. Um, and, and that that just 374 00:20:28,130 --> 00:20:31,570 S3: helps my heart to know that God has been there, 375 00:20:31,710 --> 00:20:35,030 S3: done that. He sees and he knows, and I take 376 00:20:35,030 --> 00:20:35,990 S3: comfort in that. 377 00:20:37,230 --> 00:20:39,550 S1: I am so glad you called, Jessica. Now let me. 378 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:42,350 S1: If you don't want to answer this, you don't have to. Um, 379 00:20:42,670 --> 00:20:45,390 S1: so what's going on? What's the value? It sounds like 380 00:20:45,390 --> 00:20:47,230 S1: you're going through a valley. Is that true? 381 00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:51,030 S3: Yeah. It's a pretty deep valley, and I don't see 382 00:20:51,030 --> 00:20:56,350 S3: it ending really until. Until the rapture. Um, so my 383 00:20:56,350 --> 00:21:02,550 S3: marriage is, um, uh, at roommate status, and I am, 384 00:21:02,869 --> 00:21:05,870 S3: although it's not, the persecution I receive is not near 385 00:21:05,869 --> 00:21:09,510 S3: as bad as people in third world countries, but, um, 386 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:13,470 S3: it's still hard for me, um, to take. And I 387 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:18,510 S3: have to be reminded constantly from the Lord, which he does, um, 388 00:21:19,230 --> 00:21:22,550 S3: to that it's not as severe as theirs, and you 389 00:21:22,550 --> 00:21:24,750 S3: can handle it, or I can handle it, and to 390 00:21:24,790 --> 00:21:27,149 S3: just keep moving forward in his strength. 391 00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:28,990 S4: But that's frustrating. 392 00:21:28,990 --> 00:21:31,440 S1: If you are married to somebody that you want. You 393 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,359 S1: want to be your soulmate. You want to be linked 394 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,080 S1: together and you feel like your roommates and you. I 395 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,000 S1: can't believe you said that because yesterday I was recording 396 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,720 S1: with Doctor Gary Chapman, and our guest that day said, 397 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,920 S1: the very, that very thing. If you feel like a 398 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,960 S1: roommate with your spouse, there's hope for you. And the 399 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,760 S1: reason why he said it's Doctor Greg Smalley. The reason 400 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,800 S1: why he said that, he said, is because he and 401 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,560 S1: his wife, Aaron, felt the same way. So the the 402 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,440 S1: place where you are stuck right now, uh, when we 403 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,080 S1: get done here, Jessica, I want you to hang on. And, uh, 404 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,640 S1: Trisha will get your information. I think we could send 405 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,000 S1: you something that might be encouraging to you, but, um, 406 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,680 S1: why don't you jump in here and talk about that 407 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,680 S1: whole thing of Psalm 27 and her specific situation? 408 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,760 S2: Well, I mean, I think what it just encourages me 409 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,359 S2: so much is in a situation like that, the temptation 410 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,050 S2: would just be to be bitter all the time. And yet, 411 00:22:31,369 --> 00:22:33,810 S2: God's Word has been a balm. And it's the place 412 00:22:33,810 --> 00:22:36,050 S2: where you go to, and I love. I mean, that's 413 00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:39,090 S2: a beautiful psalm because it speaks of who the Lord 414 00:22:39,090 --> 00:22:42,930 S2: is to David when other people have rejected him. And 415 00:22:42,930 --> 00:22:45,290 S2: the Lord is his light, his salvation, he fills him 416 00:22:45,290 --> 00:22:47,930 S2: with joy. And there's a lot of hope that, you know, 417 00:22:47,970 --> 00:22:49,850 S2: one day I'm going to see the land of the living, 418 00:22:49,850 --> 00:22:52,609 S2: and I think of all the places to sink down 419 00:22:52,609 --> 00:22:56,170 S2: in Scripture and be encouraged. You. You've chosen a beautiful 420 00:22:56,170 --> 00:22:59,689 S2: Psalm that's deeply encouraging, and I love that the Lord 421 00:22:59,690 --> 00:23:03,450 S2: has given us words like this. They're written originally to David, 422 00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:06,730 S2: but they are for us. He's your light. He's your salvation. 423 00:23:06,730 --> 00:23:09,409 S2: And I just want to encourage you to. He sees 424 00:23:09,410 --> 00:23:13,010 S2: what no one else sees. He knows your loneliness in 425 00:23:13,010 --> 00:23:17,010 S2: your marriage, and he loves you like no one else. 426 00:23:17,369 --> 00:23:19,370 S2: And I just want to encourage you to hold on 427 00:23:19,450 --> 00:23:22,130 S2: to the fact that if you feel unloved in other relationships, 428 00:23:22,130 --> 00:23:23,690 S2: you will never lose his love. 429 00:23:23,970 --> 00:23:28,620 S1: Hmm. Is there a specific verse that you hang on to. 430 00:23:28,660 --> 00:23:31,580 S1: Even tighter, Jessica, than some of the others. 431 00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:43,379 S3: In that Psalm. Um, just I guess. Maybe the persecution 432 00:23:43,580 --> 00:23:49,180 S3: that surrounds me all every day. Um, it just hurts 433 00:23:49,180 --> 00:23:52,340 S3: my heart because I am my love language. One of 434 00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:56,619 S3: them is words of affirmation. And just to get the 435 00:23:56,619 --> 00:24:01,219 S3: evil looks and words. It it really hurts my heart. 436 00:24:01,220 --> 00:24:07,220 S3: And and it puts fear in. And, um, I'm not 437 00:24:07,220 --> 00:24:10,379 S3: supposed to live in that, but, um. It's difficult. 438 00:24:11,020 --> 00:24:14,140 S1: Boy, I hear your. I hear your heart. Jessica. I'm 439 00:24:14,140 --> 00:24:17,820 S1: so glad that you got through today. Um, I love 440 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:21,620 S1: the the 11th verse. Teach me your way, O Lord, 441 00:24:21,619 --> 00:24:26,060 S1: and lead me on a level path because of my enemies. 442 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,679 S1: of you. Look through the in Proverbs and in the 443 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,560 S1: Psalms and this image of the way or the path, 444 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,320 S1: the road that's broad, that leads to destruction, and then 445 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,720 S1: the path that leads to righteousness, that God really does 446 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,399 S1: care enough to give us this path to go on 447 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,000 S1: and to look at those things. And the other verse 448 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,080 S1: that I have underlined here is, I believe that I 449 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,520 S1: shall look upon the goodness of the Lord in the 450 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,000 S1: land of the living and, uh, speak that over you 451 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,800 S1: in your situation with your marriage and all that you're 452 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,520 S1: going through. Jessica. Hang on. Tricia will get your information. 453 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,600 S1: Anything else you want to add to that? Glenna, before 454 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,440 S1: we take a break. 455 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,679 S2: I just want to encourage you to keep going to 456 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,560 S2: God's Word for your comfort. Because what matters more than 457 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040 S2: what your husband thinks of you, what others say about 458 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,320 S2: you is what the Lord thinks of you. And I mean, 459 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,280 S2: if you are in Christ, you are greatly loved. 460 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,530 S1: Yes. Do you hear the struggle that Jessica has gone through? 461 00:25:28,530 --> 00:25:32,570 S1: And then the place that God's Word brings, that encouragement 462 00:25:32,890 --> 00:25:35,610 S1: that she hides, that I think that's the spirit at 463 00:25:35,609 --> 00:25:39,690 S1: work and it can happen to you. Memorizing Scripture by 464 00:25:39,690 --> 00:25:42,770 S1: Glenna marshall is our featured resource. If you haven't gone 465 00:25:42,770 --> 00:25:45,650 S1: through it, you haven't read it. It's a great resource. 466 00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:50,850 S1: Just go to Chris for more of your calls. Straight ahead. 467 00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:07,690 S1: This is so good. So Jessica just called. She talked 468 00:26:07,690 --> 00:26:11,610 S1: about Psalm 27, and then I flipped over to our 469 00:26:11,609 --> 00:26:15,650 S1: Facebook page. And Ashley says, my heart breaks for Jessica. 470 00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:18,930 S1: My verse for her is, in this world you will 471 00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:22,890 S1: have trouble, but take heart, for he has overcome the world. 472 00:26:23,090 --> 00:26:25,619 S1: God bless you. Praying that God will keep you strong 473 00:26:25,619 --> 00:26:29,100 S1: in the midst of trial. There are others. The question 474 00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:31,340 S1: that I had for you on Facebook is what verse 475 00:26:31,340 --> 00:26:34,940 S1: or passage from the Bible would you suggest I memorize 476 00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:38,859 S1: and why? And there are a number of people who have, uh, 477 00:26:38,859 --> 00:26:43,380 S1: who have written in here. Um, Psalm 51 Russell says, 478 00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:47,260 S1: we all have sinned in our life and we need forgiveness. 479 00:26:47,420 --> 00:26:50,820 S1: It's almost like the psalmist was talking about the crucifixion 480 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:53,780 S1: of Jesus before it was about to happen. Like God 481 00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:59,140 S1: has a plan for that. Thank you Jesus. Yes, Psalm 51. 482 00:26:59,140 --> 00:27:05,020 S1: I've often talked about Psalm 51 and the depth of David's, um, 483 00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:10,620 S1: just brokenness before God in the middle, after his willful sin, 484 00:27:10,619 --> 00:27:14,780 S1: and how kind God was to send a prophet not 485 00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:17,260 S1: to judge him, but to tell him a story that 486 00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:20,619 S1: showed him his own heart. And I think that's what 487 00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:24,240 S1: Scripture will do for us. Glenna marshals. Joining us memorizing 488 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,040 S1: Scripture is our featured resource at Chris Dot. Olga is 489 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,360 S1: in Chicago. Olga, why did you call today? 490 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,440 S5: Hi, I called uh, I love to listen to radio. 491 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,000 S5: And now what? I heard your your show. I mean, 492 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,600 S5: it was brought up to my heart of joy, and 493 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,760 S5: I'm like, I'm gonna try to share my scripture that 494 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:55,000 S5: God had allowed me to memorize because for many years, 495 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,960 S5: you know, my sister said that when I was three 496 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,760 S5: years old, I would put my knees, I would put 497 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,520 S5: myself on my knees and my hands and my chest. 498 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,560 S5: And obviously that is a stimulative way of praying. So 499 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,359 S5: my parents passed away when I was two. My mom 500 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,760 S5: took I was two when my mom passed. And my father, uh, 501 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,240 S5: was I was three when my father passed. All this time, 502 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,690 S5: nobody teach me to love God, but I just I 503 00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:29,530 S5: just look for God everywhere I go. So, um, I'm 504 00:28:29,530 --> 00:28:33,610 S5: 56 now. I have my children. Obviously not everything has 505 00:28:33,650 --> 00:28:38,570 S5: been like. So like like a rose, you know, or 506 00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:42,290 S5: like roses. So now that I started reading my Bible, 507 00:28:42,610 --> 00:28:46,010 S5: you know, things to a person. Uh, actually, I should 508 00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:49,290 S5: say thanks to the Spirit of God that had, um, 509 00:28:49,490 --> 00:28:53,290 S5: guide me to do that, the scripture that I memorized. 510 00:28:53,290 --> 00:28:57,130 S5: And I think it's very, very, um, it just pulls 511 00:28:57,130 --> 00:29:01,250 S5: you out of darkness. Jeremiah 2911 for I know the 512 00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:04,250 S5: plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to 513 00:29:04,290 --> 00:29:07,209 S5: prosper you and not to harm you. You know, to 514 00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:10,450 S5: give you hope and a future. You know, I share 515 00:29:10,450 --> 00:29:14,530 S5: that with my, uh, my customers. You know, the place 516 00:29:14,530 --> 00:29:18,810 S5: that I work. Sometimes I see them so broken and, um. 517 00:29:18,810 --> 00:29:22,060 S5: And I listen to them and I pray to God for, 518 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,500 S5: you know, three seconds, four seconds. I say, God, give 519 00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:27,980 S5: me the light that you want me to have to 520 00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:31,860 S5: share to find the opportunity to share your word. And 521 00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:35,100 S5: that has given. And I and you know, so much 522 00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:39,140 S5: I want to say, um, some kind of peace to 523 00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:42,740 S5: those individuals because they said, God, I wasn't going to 524 00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:45,100 S5: come to the bank today, but I came and I 525 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:48,940 S5: found you. Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing it. 526 00:29:48,940 --> 00:29:51,460 S5: Can I give you a hug? And I just don't 527 00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:56,420 S5: get tired of sharing this scripture because, um, just like, 528 00:29:56,460 --> 00:30:00,100 S5: you know, I mean, it's it's so great to to 529 00:30:00,140 --> 00:30:01,660 S5: be able to do that. 530 00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:03,940 S1: Olga, tell me where you're originally from. 531 00:30:04,860 --> 00:30:08,300 S5: I am from Mexico and a farm from the farm 532 00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:13,300 S5: in Mexico. And and I and I'm telling you, Chris, 533 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:17,180 S5: I have so many testimonials about what God has done 534 00:30:17,180 --> 00:30:18,710 S5: in my life, you know. 535 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:19,590 S6: But the trauma that. 536 00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:21,910 S1: You went through. Listen, the trauma that you went through 537 00:30:21,910 --> 00:30:24,110 S1: when you were two and losing your mom and three, 538 00:30:24,150 --> 00:30:28,190 S1: losing your dad, a lot of people would turn their 539 00:30:28,190 --> 00:30:30,870 S1: back on God. Because, you know, how could you do 540 00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:34,870 S1: this to me? And I, I get that, I understand that. 541 00:30:35,030 --> 00:30:38,230 S1: But for you, it almost. It feels like it. It 542 00:30:38,270 --> 00:30:41,590 S1: thrust you closer to him. It made you want to 543 00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:45,990 S1: draw closer to him. And then to give that to 544 00:30:46,030 --> 00:30:48,150 S1: other people. And I love it that you give your 545 00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:51,150 S1: customers a hug. If they say it's okay, that you 546 00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:54,350 S1: give them a hug and that you're praying for them. 547 00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:58,910 S1: That's what hiding Jeremiah 2911. That's what it'll do in 548 00:30:58,910 --> 00:31:01,590 S1: your heart. And Glenn, I'm sure there's something on your 549 00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:03,710 S1: heart when you hear Olga's story. 550 00:31:04,150 --> 00:31:07,150 S2: Well, first of all, she just has so much joy. 551 00:31:07,270 --> 00:31:10,030 S2: And I just think that's beautiful. And I also hear, like, 552 00:31:10,150 --> 00:31:13,110 S2: I think what she's saying is, what? What else do 553 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:16,190 S2: I have to give someone who's so broken that's better 554 00:31:16,190 --> 00:31:19,330 S2: than giving them God's word. And I mean, she's just 555 00:31:19,330 --> 00:31:21,490 S2: wrapping it up like a present and giving it to them. 556 00:31:21,490 --> 00:31:23,250 S2: And I just I commend you, oh, Lord, for that. 557 00:31:23,250 --> 00:31:26,810 S2: I think that is such a precious and kind way 558 00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:29,130 S2: to love people, to give them the truth and the 559 00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:32,890 S2: encouragement of Scripture. Keep doing that. We need more of that. 560 00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:36,930 S1: Amen. And so, and as you said a little earlier, 561 00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:39,770 S1: hiding your the God's Word in your heart as a child, 562 00:31:39,770 --> 00:31:42,490 S1: that it comes back to you. But I've got somebody 563 00:31:42,490 --> 00:31:46,490 S1: here on Facebook who's saying I'm 61 and I'm memorizing. 564 00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:48,890 S1: I'm going to read that here in a minute. Olga. 565 00:31:48,890 --> 00:31:52,810 S1: Thank you. Reggie's in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Hi, Reggie. Go right ahead. 566 00:31:56,170 --> 00:31:59,170 S1: And I don't hear Reggie. Reggie. Okay. 567 00:31:59,210 --> 00:32:00,170 S7: Hi, Chris. Sorry about that. 568 00:32:00,370 --> 00:32:02,930 S1: Oh, there he is. All right. Romans six. Take me 569 00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:04,090 S1: to Romans six. 570 00:32:05,050 --> 00:32:09,050 S7: Yeah. I'm just so excited. I was driving, and I 571 00:32:09,090 --> 00:32:11,130 S7: turned on the radio like I normally do. And I'm 572 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:15,700 S7: just really excited to hear, um, just scripture memorization being 573 00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:19,140 S7: part of the discussion and just a spiritual discipline that 574 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,820 S7: it's challenging for me. It's encouraging, but it's so important, 575 00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:26,820 S7: I think, to every believer. And it was foundational for 576 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:29,380 S7: my walk as a believer early on. And it's something 577 00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:31,100 S7: that I've kind of stepped away from. And I try 578 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,340 S7: to always bring myself back to to practicing. But yeah, 579 00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:39,340 S7: Romans six is just a, um, just a, you know, 580 00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:41,620 S7: one of the earlier scriptures that I memorized, I had 581 00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:44,500 S7: a mentor who encouraged me, uh, you know, not just 582 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:49,540 S7: memorizing a few verses, but the whole entire chapter and the, uh, 583 00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:53,180 S7: how it helps with, you know, overcoming sin and sin 584 00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:56,300 S7: begins as a desire. Desire is typically starts in your thoughts. 585 00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:59,580 S7: So instead of meditating on those sinful thoughts, you start 586 00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:02,460 S7: meditating on God's Word. And it just those those sinful 587 00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:04,860 S7: thoughts just go away. And you just continue to just 588 00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:07,140 S7: enjoy just the splendor of God's Word. 589 00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:10,660 S1: So again, we come back to that relationship, Glenna, that 590 00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:12,460 S1: that's what this fosters. 591 00:33:13,550 --> 00:33:16,590 S2: Yeah, I'm amending the whole time he's talking, because that 592 00:33:16,590 --> 00:33:20,390 S2: was one of the things that drew me into memorization initially, 593 00:33:20,550 --> 00:33:23,190 S2: was feeling like I didn't know how to fight sin 594 00:33:23,470 --> 00:33:27,150 S2: and what scripture memorization does exactly what he says, because 595 00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:30,310 S2: he's quoting James one there that, you know, sin begins 596 00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:33,270 S2: with your desires, and then that gives, you know, what 597 00:33:33,270 --> 00:33:35,790 S2: is fully grown gives, becomes sin. And when it's fully 598 00:33:35,790 --> 00:33:38,150 S2: grown becomes death, you know? And so how do you 599 00:33:38,150 --> 00:33:42,350 S2: fight sin? You meditate on God's Word and it changes 600 00:33:42,350 --> 00:33:44,830 S2: the way you think, which then changes the way you 601 00:33:44,830 --> 00:33:47,150 S2: approach life, the way you act, the way you react, 602 00:33:47,150 --> 00:33:50,030 S2: the way you pursue things or not pursue things. It 603 00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:53,230 S2: changes everything. So I wholeheartedly agree with him. He is 604 00:33:53,230 --> 00:33:55,750 S2: definitely on to just one of the key benefits of 605 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:57,870 S2: Scripture memorization is in fighting sin. 606 00:33:58,190 --> 00:34:02,510 S1: Reggie, what, uh, translation did you memorize it in? 607 00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:06,469 S7: Funny you should ask that. So, uh, you know, when 608 00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:09,029 S7: I first early on in my walk, I think I 609 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:12,680 S7: started with NIV just reading the Bible. And when I 610 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,879 S7: started memorizing, I just. I don't know why I went 611 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,879 S7: to New King James. It's more of a, you know, 612 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,440 S7: I mean, they're all paraphrases, but just a, I guess, 613 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,560 S7: a pure version, if you may. Mhm. So I use 614 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,360 S7: new King James and it's funny because our church uses 615 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,440 S7: NIV now and whenever I get a chance to speak 616 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,640 S7: I always revert back to my new King James. 617 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,480 S1: Well, and the very first Bible I got in when 618 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,360 S1: I was a kid was the King James Version. So 619 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,240 S1: a lot of those verses that I have hidden away 620 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,680 S1: have the these and the those, and there's something magisterial 621 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,680 S1: about that translation. You know, if you can understand some 622 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,080 S1: of the, the words that are a little more archaic now, 623 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,600 S1: but that that really have sunk deeply into my spirit 624 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,280 S1: of the the way that it starts then in my version, 625 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,200 S1: because I'm using the Holman CSB. What should we say then? 626 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,860 S1: Is that how it starts in the new King James. 627 00:35:13,660 --> 00:35:16,260 S7: Yes, yes. What shall we say then? Shall we continue 628 00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:18,939 S7: in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not. How shall 629 00:35:18,940 --> 00:35:22,500 S7: we who died to sin, continue any longer in it? 630 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:24,270 S7: And by the time you get to verse like 3 631 00:35:24,270 --> 00:35:27,300 S7: or 4, whatever you've been struggling with typically goes away. 632 00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:30,660 S7: And I have to give credit to, you know, Bill 633 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:34,180 S7: Gothard seminars, those old seminars from, uh, you know, quite 634 00:35:34,180 --> 00:35:37,739 S7: a few years ago, uh, I learned that the principle 635 00:35:37,739 --> 00:35:39,859 S7: there and of course, as was shared to me through 636 00:35:39,860 --> 00:35:42,380 S7: a mentor who also attended, who was an alum from 637 00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:46,380 S7: the Basic Principles seminar. But just, um, you know, age 638 00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:49,860 S7: old principle of scripture memorization that, uh, I hate to 639 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:52,419 S7: present it that way as age old because it's it's 640 00:35:52,420 --> 00:35:55,860 S7: relevant for today. It's needed for today. Uh, and it's 641 00:35:55,860 --> 00:35:59,580 S7: just helps the believer, uh, exercising that power we have 642 00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:02,060 S7: over sin, over darkness. Yes. 643 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:05,580 S1: I'm so glad you got through, Reggie. God bless you, friend. Uh, 644 00:36:05,780 --> 00:36:11,230 S1: and and talk about that, Glenna. The memorizing larger passages 645 00:36:11,230 --> 00:36:15,110 S1: rather than just isolated verses and what that does. 646 00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:18,989 S2: Well, I mean, the context is huge because, you know, 647 00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:22,950 S2: cherry picking verses can sometimes lead you to pull versus, 648 00:36:22,989 --> 00:36:26,109 S2: you know, understand verses outside of their context. Um, and 649 00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:27,910 S2: I'm not saying you shouldn't just choose a verse here 650 00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:30,589 S2: and there, because I do that frequently. But when you 651 00:36:30,590 --> 00:36:33,670 S2: choose to settle down in a chapter like Reggie did 652 00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:37,430 S2: with Romans six, you're getting like an like Roman. Specifically, 653 00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:41,270 S2: you're getting an argument that Paul is laying down his 654 00:36:41,870 --> 00:36:44,870 S2: argument for why we should not presume upon God's grace. 655 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:47,710 S2: And so it just what it does is it deepens 656 00:36:47,710 --> 00:36:50,230 S2: the meaning of that verse that you love, if you'll 657 00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:54,190 S2: maybe memorize the verses around it like the surrounding verses, 658 00:36:54,350 --> 00:36:58,549 S2: it's actually going to help you understand it so much better. And, uh, 659 00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:00,989 S2: and he's right, I have experienced this. If you get 660 00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:03,670 S2: stuck stumbling over the first part, once you get going, 661 00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:05,310 S2: your brain will just pick it up. And I can 662 00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:07,589 S2: tell he he knows that passage. Well. You can hear 663 00:37:07,590 --> 00:37:08,560 S2: it in his voice. 664 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,880 S1: Yeah. And the excitement that I hear in his voice 665 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,880 S1: as well. And we're going to go to more of 666 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,520 S1: your calls. And if this is something that you're saying, 667 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,799 S1: I really want to talk to people who are my 668 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,239 S1: age in their 60s and then in the 70s and 669 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,480 S1: in in the 80s. And if you're in 90, I'll 670 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,960 S1: raise my voice a little bit more. If you're in 671 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,480 S1: your 90s and you say, well, I cannot do this. 672 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,880 S1: Glenna is here to tell you and me. Yes, you can. Yes, 673 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,440 S1: you can do this. And there's. And I'd love to 674 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,560 S1: hear from somebody who's in their, you know, say over 675 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,280 S1: 70 who has been doing this. I've got a response 676 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,120 S1: from Facebook. I want to read to you when we 677 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:56,279 S1: come back. (877) 548-3675. You go to Chris Fabry lives. You'll 678 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:02,080 S1: see Glenna marshall's excellent book, Memorizing Scripture The Basics Blessings 679 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,040 S1: and Benefits of Meditating on God's Word. Featured resource at 680 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:20,580 S1: Chris favorite. relevant. You have to hear what Pamela says today. 681 00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:25,180 S1: I started memorizing scripture three years ago when I was 61. 682 00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:27,819 S1: You do the math. I'm not sure. I think it 683 00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:30,859 S1: was after hearing Glenna marshall maybe sharing on Revive Our 684 00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:35,700 S1: Hearts with Nancy DeMoss, I have been amazed at how 685 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:38,580 S1: much I've been able to memorize at this late stage 686 00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:41,379 S1: of life, with a brain that was never all that 687 00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:45,140 S1: sharp to begin to begin with, she says. I use 688 00:38:45,140 --> 00:38:48,979 S1: an app called verses. The verses don't come to mind 689 00:38:48,980 --> 00:38:51,060 S1: as much as I might hope, but more than I 690 00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:53,739 S1: actually expected. One of the first things I memorized was 691 00:38:53,739 --> 00:38:57,299 S1: Psalm 19. Right now with my church, I'm working on 692 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:02,380 S1: memorizing Romans chapter eight. I am up to about verse 17. 693 00:39:02,420 --> 00:39:05,299 S1: I'm so thankful for Glenna and Nancy and anyone else 694 00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:07,910 S1: who has encouraged me and all of us to get 695 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:12,029 S1: Scripture in our minds and hearts. So go to that 696 00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:16,029 S1: right there. How? If you're listening, if someone's listening and 697 00:39:16,030 --> 00:39:19,430 S1: it's like, yeah, okay, maybe I'll try this. How do 698 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:20,470 S1: you get started? 699 00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:24,390 S2: Okay. So the first thing they need to do is, uh, 700 00:39:24,670 --> 00:39:28,149 S2: pick something to memorize. And sometimes that's the biggest, you know, 701 00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:29,750 S2: hang up that people have is I don't know where 702 00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:31,549 S2: to start. So I always tell people, I know I've 703 00:39:31,550 --> 00:39:34,069 S2: said it on your show before, start with Psalm one 704 00:39:34,070 --> 00:39:36,469 S2: because it's six short verses. You can do it all 705 00:39:36,469 --> 00:39:38,549 S2: in one. You can spend as much time. This is 706 00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:40,630 S2: not a race. You know. You're not racing or competing 707 00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:42,910 S2: against anyone. You're just hiding God's Word in your heart. 708 00:39:42,910 --> 00:39:47,670 S2: And yet, this Psalm exhorts us and gives us the 709 00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:51,549 S2: blessings of meditating on God's Word day and night. And 710 00:39:51,550 --> 00:39:53,589 S2: so it kind of gives us some mental imagery. And 711 00:39:53,590 --> 00:39:56,430 S2: speaking of imagery, it gives us a word picture which 712 00:39:56,430 --> 00:40:00,230 S2: can sometimes be helpful in memorizing something new. It gives 713 00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:02,230 S2: you like some visuals to hang on to as you're 714 00:40:02,230 --> 00:40:04,960 S2: working your way through. So what you need to do, 715 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,520 S2: and this is what I tell people, you need to 716 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,480 S2: write it out somewhere and put it where you're going 717 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,279 S2: to see it regularly. Maybe that is to put it 718 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,400 S2: on post-it notes and tape it to your bathroom mirror 719 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,000 S2: or on your desk at work. I have shared this 720 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,840 S2: and this is still my chosen method of memorization. I 721 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,120 S2: print it out and kind of large print because I'm 722 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,920 S2: one of those people who needs readers everywhere. I slide 723 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,960 S2: the text into a Ziploc bag and I tape it 724 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,880 S2: to my shower wall, and I work on it a 725 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,879 S2: little bit every day. And I've gotten through whole books 726 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,799 S2: of the Bible that way. And so the point is, 727 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,000 S2: you're just going to start with that first phrase of 728 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,959 S2: the first verse, and you're just going to say it, 729 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,360 S2: read it ten times out loud. Then close your eyes, 730 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,400 S2: say it out loud ten times. You're going to do 731 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,080 S2: that a couple of times. The next day you're going 732 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,239 S2: to see if you can say it without looking, and 733 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,920 S2: if you can't, then just try again. Do the ten times, 734 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,839 S2: read it out loud ten times, then close your eyes 735 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,560 S2: and say it out loud ten times. And then once 736 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640 S2: you've got it, you know, go to the next phrase. 737 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,520 S2: And I really like to let punctuation be my guide here, 738 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,120 S2: because those little commas and semicolons can be a good 739 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,930 S2: place to just take a breath. And so if you 740 00:41:04,969 --> 00:41:09,570 S2: are in Psalm one, blessed is the man who walks 741 00:41:09,610 --> 00:41:11,410 S2: not in the counsel of the wicked. So maybe that 742 00:41:11,410 --> 00:41:13,130 S2: would be the first phrase I would do, and I 743 00:41:13,130 --> 00:41:15,450 S2: might spend a week on it if it's brand new 744 00:41:15,450 --> 00:41:18,049 S2: to me, and once I've got it down, I'll move 745 00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:19,850 S2: on to the next phrase. Nor stands in the way 746 00:41:19,850 --> 00:41:21,529 S2: of sinners and then go on to the next phrase. 747 00:41:21,570 --> 00:41:23,130 S2: Nor sits in the seat of scoffers. And then I'll 748 00:41:23,130 --> 00:41:24,689 S2: go back and work on that verse. Make sure I've 749 00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,770 S2: got it before I move on to the second verse. 750 00:41:26,969 --> 00:41:29,729 S2: And then I just review what I've done each day 751 00:41:29,730 --> 00:41:32,089 S2: and then go on to the next part. There's it's 752 00:41:32,090 --> 00:41:36,650 S2: really not rocket science. It really just is faithfulness and repetition. 753 00:41:36,650 --> 00:41:40,290 S2: That's really what your brain needs. And so the big 754 00:41:40,810 --> 00:41:43,089 S2: the big key here is you just got to start. 755 00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:45,890 S2: You've just got to start. And and don't be afraid 756 00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:47,690 S2: to get it wrong. I get verses wrong all the 757 00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:50,250 S2: time when I'm first learning them. And then if I'm 758 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:52,410 S2: really struggling, I just can't get it. I'm like, what 759 00:41:52,410 --> 00:41:54,169 S2: is wrong with me? My brain will not grab Ahold 760 00:41:54,170 --> 00:41:56,130 S2: of this. Then I I'm going to take a few minutes. 761 00:41:56,130 --> 00:41:57,730 S2: I'm going to copy it out a few times. I'm 762 00:41:57,730 --> 00:41:59,489 S2: going to do the first letter method. I'm just going 763 00:41:59,489 --> 00:42:01,049 S2: to write down the first letter of each word a 764 00:42:01,050 --> 00:42:04,390 S2: few times, and then try saying it out loud until 765 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:05,750 S2: I know I've got it, and then I'll move on 766 00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:08,029 S2: to the next section. So you know it's the way 767 00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:10,350 S2: you learned spelling words as a kid. You're just going 768 00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:12,270 S2: to say it out loud over and over again until 769 00:42:12,270 --> 00:42:12,950 S2: you get it. 770 00:42:13,390 --> 00:42:16,750 S1: And it's that kind of practicality that is in the 771 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:21,270 S1: book that will really encourage you. Memorizing Scripture by Glenna marshall. 772 00:42:21,390 --> 00:42:24,310 S1: Hattie is in Indiana. Hattie, why did you call today? 773 00:42:25,830 --> 00:42:28,350 S8: Uh, Chris, I used to listen to you when I 774 00:42:28,350 --> 00:42:33,310 S8: was a nurse in 2013 leaving out of Zionsville, but 775 00:42:33,350 --> 00:42:40,350 S8: in 2014, I came down with breast cancer, um, 2019 776 00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:45,870 S8: and 1222. And it's on the left side. And with 777 00:42:45,870 --> 00:42:49,629 S8: me being a divorcee for many years, I decided I 778 00:42:49,630 --> 00:42:54,150 S8: wasn't going to do treatment, but I went to Bible school. 779 00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:58,830 S8: Lester Summerall, uh, our church had the books and stuff, 780 00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:02,600 S8: and I learned through just reading and spending time with God. 781 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,000 S8: I learned scripture back and forth on my job. I 782 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,120 S8: would play it in the morning, play it at night, 783 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,440 S8: and then I went to Taylor University. That came to 784 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,239 S8: Kokomo and took, uh, Old Testament and New Testament history. 785 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:23,200 S8: But here's what I look for at 79. Intimacy with Jesus. 786 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,320 S8: I've been around a lot of people that can memorize 787 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,560 S8: and just tell you all kind of scriptures, but their 788 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,800 S8: lives didn't line up to it. It's all about letting 789 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,920 S8: it get in your heart and intimacy. So I stand 790 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,600 S8: on Psalms 91. I do it for my family and 791 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,680 S8: for myself and for people that I meet. And the 792 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,480 S8: Lord has allowed me with all this memory problem, after 793 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,560 S8: all these surgeries, to remember the whole thing by heart. 794 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,400 S8: So I use it in that way. And acts 1631 795 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,450 S8: my household shall be saved, And acts eight 2026. In 796 00:44:01,450 --> 00:44:04,570 S8: your salvation, angels, after I pray for all the people 797 00:44:04,570 --> 00:44:07,170 S8: out here in my condo that I know are dealing 798 00:44:07,170 --> 00:44:11,850 S8: with illness and stuff. So it's more about the memorization. 799 00:44:12,330 --> 00:44:15,170 S8: It's the heart. And I've gone through a year I 800 00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:18,770 S8: can't read like I used to. Um, but I do 801 00:44:18,770 --> 00:44:23,330 S8: the app Bible app. I've been through the Bible the 802 00:44:23,330 --> 00:44:25,930 S8: whole year and I'm starting again. So I have to 803 00:44:25,969 --> 00:44:27,330 S8: play it to myself. 804 00:44:27,370 --> 00:44:31,090 S6: Look at you. And I'm 79. 805 00:44:31,090 --> 00:44:32,730 S8: I'll be 80 in July. 806 00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:34,010 S6: 79. 807 00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:36,730 S1: And she's doing Psalm 91. I hope you'll be doing 808 00:44:36,730 --> 00:44:39,450 S1: Psalm 91 when you're 91. Hattie. 809 00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:42,770 S6: Yeah, I I'm 79. 810 00:44:42,810 --> 00:44:46,570 S8: I'll be 80 in July, but I can remember all 811 00:44:46,610 --> 00:44:49,810 S8: of Psalms 91. In the morning I get up, I 812 00:44:49,850 --> 00:44:53,210 S8: do that and Psalms 23, the Lord's Prayer, and I 813 00:44:53,210 --> 00:44:56,089 S8: plead the blood of Jesus all over my friends and 814 00:44:56,090 --> 00:44:58,980 S8: people and stuff, install, and I minister out in the 815 00:44:58,980 --> 00:45:02,620 S8: grocery store by. And then my daughter in law sent 816 00:45:02,620 --> 00:45:06,380 S8: me a little, um, card thing that I hand out. 817 00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:08,980 S8: I can see people, and I get that unction and 818 00:45:08,980 --> 00:45:10,460 S8: I'm giving money away. 819 00:45:12,340 --> 00:45:13,339 S6: I hope I see you. 820 00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:15,660 S1: At the grocery store next time I go. Okay, so 821 00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:18,940 S1: here's the thing. What Hattie is talking about is this 822 00:45:18,940 --> 00:45:22,420 S1: organic thing that when you start to take this in 823 00:45:22,739 --> 00:45:26,620 S1: and you get God's Word inside of you, it will 824 00:45:26,620 --> 00:45:31,100 S1: come out. It will bubble over in your life. It 825 00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:34,020 S1: will help you when you get frustrated. It will help 826 00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:37,419 S1: you when you have bad diagnosis. Glenn, am I am 827 00:45:37,420 --> 00:45:43,500 S1: I speaking your love language? Glenn. Do you resonate with 828 00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:45,380 S1: what Hattie was just saying? 829 00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:49,660 S2: I love what she said. What she's going for is 830 00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:53,420 S2: intimacy with Jesus. What? That's it. Like, that's why we 831 00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:57,360 S2: do anything, uh, to grow in our faith. Its intimacy 832 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,879 S2: in Jesus. And she has it. And that's beautiful. It's 833 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,440 S2: it's just so beautifully attractive and so full of joy. 834 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,160 S6: Yeah. 835 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,400 S1: And and I could just feel a hug coming from Hattie. 836 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:07,720 S6: Here. 837 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,440 S1: Today. And the grocery store, too. Um, Glenna, this flew by. 838 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,200 S1: It always does when we have this conversation, but I'm 839 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:20,200 S1: really hoping this encouraged somebody to memorize scripture. You can 840 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,880 S1: get the book Memorizing Scripture The Basics Blessings and Benefits 841 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,279 S1: of Meditating on God's Word by Glenna marshall. Click through 842 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:33,960 S1: today's information right there. Chris. Hope you enjoyed the conversation today. 843 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,120 S1: Tomorrow my pal John is going to be here, John Gager. 844 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,799 S1: And we're going to go to the Psalms and change 845 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,759 S1: the self talk with the Psalms. We'll do that tomorrow 846 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,000 S1: right here on Chris Fabry live production of Moody Radio 847 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,720 S1: ministry of Moody Bible Institute.