1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,039 S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,680 S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide. Overcome 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,440 S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined. Start 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,880 S1: your morning with a laugh. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,720 S2: Practical from the Bible. Tips and tricks to kill. Not 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,640 S2: tricks but tips and tricks. 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,360 S3: Tips and tricks to kill. Tips and tricks. 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,400 S1: Delivering the truth daily. 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,280 S4: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,840 S4: with achievement in good works. Well, God wasn't impressed by that, 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,239 S4: even if other people were. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,080 S2: The gospel changes everything. 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,519 S5: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,440 S5: just falling to the ground. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,919 S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,680 S1: and crew. Tis the season. Not to be jolly, but 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,900 S1: tis the season to be Cleaning. 18 00:00:59,940 --> 00:01:02,580 S6: FA la la la la la la la la. 19 00:01:03,020 --> 00:01:05,780 S2: Can you just change that song to make it match 20 00:01:05,819 --> 00:01:08,300 S2: whatever season you like? Yeah. For spring you can do 21 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:10,420 S2: it for summer. Just gotta. We gotta find lyrics for 22 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:12,179 S2: each of these things. We'll just sing it all year round. 23 00:01:12,220 --> 00:01:13,020 S1: Why is spring. 24 00:01:13,020 --> 00:01:13,700 S6: Cleaning? 25 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:16,780 S7: Blah blah blah blah blah. Let me get my mouth 26 00:01:16,780 --> 00:01:20,500 S7: moving here. Why is spring cleaning? That's a hard two words. 27 00:01:20,540 --> 00:01:25,420 S7: Why is that? Why is spring cleaning a thing? Uh, 28 00:01:25,860 --> 00:01:29,020 S7: I know why we're all huddled up over the winter months. 29 00:01:29,060 --> 00:01:30,660 S2: Yeah, that's a good one. 30 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:35,539 S7: Eating, putting wrappers, stuffing them down in corners of couch corners. 31 00:01:35,540 --> 00:01:36,339 S7: Couch corners. 32 00:01:37,940 --> 00:01:40,060 S2: Yeah, I think there's probably some reality to that. Things 33 00:01:40,060 --> 00:01:42,420 S2: get cluttered up in the cold months, at least for 34 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:44,500 S2: most of the country, through the cold months. But I 35 00:01:44,500 --> 00:01:47,580 S2: think then as well, you know, taking it like the 36 00:01:47,580 --> 00:01:52,300 S2: metaphorical way you've got like spring is a time of renewal. Yeah. 37 00:01:52,340 --> 00:01:54,500 S2: You know, things are popping up, spring it around. 38 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:55,660 S7: Coming through the soil. 39 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:57,500 S2: Yeah. And you say you want to have a little 40 00:01:57,540 --> 00:02:00,210 S2: bit of renewal in your life as well. Get rid 41 00:02:00,250 --> 00:02:03,450 S2: of some things, freshen up some things, make it feel new. 42 00:02:03,490 --> 00:02:07,450 S7: Yeah, I went out front here about a week ago, 43 00:02:07,810 --> 00:02:11,330 S7: got out a shovel and those street sweepers, usually there's 44 00:02:11,330 --> 00:02:14,369 S7: cars out on the streets, you know, so they go 45 00:02:14,370 --> 00:02:16,329 S7: all around them and there were no cars there. And 46 00:02:16,330 --> 00:02:20,250 S7: I'm like, ha! Tis the season to be street sweeping. 47 00:02:20,570 --> 00:02:22,850 S7: And so I got out my big old green monster 48 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:28,209 S7: dumpster and a little flat shovel and just scooped it. Boy. 49 00:02:28,250 --> 00:02:32,169 S7: And it's there's endorphins that go off when you do that. 50 00:02:32,970 --> 00:02:38,890 S2: There is something that feels innately amazing about cleaning things. 51 00:02:38,889 --> 00:02:41,730 S2: I get that feeling every night when when we're getting 52 00:02:41,730 --> 00:02:43,650 S2: ready for bed because I've got a two year old. 53 00:02:43,889 --> 00:02:45,730 S2: And so the living room. 54 00:02:45,889 --> 00:02:48,210 S7: Ah, you're right about this one. Keep going. 55 00:02:48,250 --> 00:02:50,970 S2: Dude gets filled with toys all throughout the day. And 56 00:02:50,970 --> 00:02:54,290 S2: then at nighttime, it's time to get those things cleaned up. 57 00:02:54,290 --> 00:02:57,550 S2: And it feels so good to get that living room 58 00:02:57,550 --> 00:02:59,190 S2: floor visible again. 59 00:02:59,230 --> 00:03:02,790 S7: I love our granddaughter. I love baby Kate so much. Yes, 60 00:03:02,830 --> 00:03:04,950 S7: and she is so much fun. But when she's out 61 00:03:04,990 --> 00:03:07,230 S7: of here, I love so much. 62 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:07,790 S2: Cleaning up. 63 00:03:08,030 --> 00:03:12,750 S7: Collapsing the little temporary wood fence thingy that we have 64 00:03:12,790 --> 00:03:16,549 S7: that creates a playpen, collapsing that down, getting that all 65 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:18,510 S7: flat and organized. Oh, it's. 66 00:03:18,510 --> 00:03:18,590 S2: A. 67 00:03:18,590 --> 00:03:21,430 S7: Beautiful thing hauling all of those toys up to the 68 00:03:21,430 --> 00:03:22,829 S7: designated spot. 69 00:03:23,230 --> 00:03:23,549 S2: You like. 70 00:03:23,590 --> 00:03:24,030 S7: Oh yeah. 71 00:03:24,110 --> 00:03:26,070 S2: Look at how much space I have in here. 72 00:03:26,750 --> 00:03:30,669 S7: We got our home back. Ah, she's a blessing and 73 00:03:30,669 --> 00:03:33,070 S7: a half, but it's just wild how that works, isn't it? 74 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:36,110 S2: Yeah, it really is. It's just something good about cleaning, man. 75 00:03:36,150 --> 00:03:38,470 S7: Well, we have got a real treat for you all 76 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:41,750 S7: week long. We're titling it get It together. And not 77 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:46,230 S7: from a posture of condemnation, but encouragement. And we're bringing 78 00:03:46,230 --> 00:03:49,750 S7: in a couple expert voices this week that we've never 79 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:51,430 S7: heard here before on Carl and Chris. 80 00:03:51,470 --> 00:03:54,390 S2: I'm excited. I love some new voices coming in. 81 00:03:54,430 --> 00:03:57,580 S7: It's going to be great. Buckle up. Get a swig 82 00:03:57,620 --> 00:04:00,940 S7: of water. Put the broom down. We'll get to that 83 00:04:00,940 --> 00:04:03,980 S7: in time. First off, we got to get equipped, coached 84 00:04:03,980 --> 00:04:08,700 S7: and otherwise encouraged in getting it together right here on 85 00:04:08,700 --> 00:04:09,580 S7: Carl and Crew. 86 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:14,580 S1: Take your next step with Jesus today. You're listening to 87 00:04:14,620 --> 00:04:15,660 S1: Carl and Crew. 88 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:21,300 S7: Tis the season not to be jolly but to be cleaning. 89 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:24,779 S7: It's springtime. And you know I want to just begin 90 00:04:24,779 --> 00:04:29,740 S7: with this reality boom crew. It can feel overwhelming. It 91 00:04:29,740 --> 00:04:34,059 S7: can feel discouraging. You can hear voices of condemnation. Those 92 00:04:34,060 --> 00:04:37,620 S7: are not of God. So we're walking a tightrope here 93 00:04:37,620 --> 00:04:42,740 S7: today because we want to champion the theology of organization order, 94 00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:47,940 S7: and yet not tromp on your soul because Satan's there already. 95 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:50,860 S7: And we want to get some freedom because we're all 96 00:04:50,860 --> 00:04:54,680 S7: about taking that next step with Jesus. With me right 97 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,240 S7: now is Eileen Coffin. She is guys. I mean, literally 98 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,360 S7: in 2013 she won the best green service. It's a 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:09,480 S7: national association of productivity and organizing professionals. She's a CPO, 100 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,680 S7: if you know what that is. That's the certified professional organizer. 101 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,800 S7: And she's with us right now. Eileen, you're with me 102 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,280 S7: on this one. We don't need to tromp on people here. 103 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,279 S7: They feel beat up enough, right, sister? 104 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,840 S8: That's right. And I always tell everyone, it's not your fault. 105 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,160 S8: There's no judgment here. The world and the enemy of 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,800 S8: this world has kept us at a pace where it's like, 107 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,279 S8: you know, it goes against everything God has ever told us. 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,200 S8: So I always say there's no judgment, I get it, 109 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,840 S8: I understand we're all riding the boat. 110 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,040 S7: Yeah. Uh, Eileen, I want to begin with the theology 111 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,680 S7: of order. And I love going after this. And I 112 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,120 S7: know you're prepared for this one. A lot of times 113 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,620 S7: we look at order or organization. And we actually see 114 00:05:55,620 --> 00:06:01,140 S7: that as almost like a it's detached from God, but 115 00:06:01,140 --> 00:06:04,740 S7: nothing's closer to the character of God. Is that right, Eileen? 116 00:06:04,779 --> 00:06:07,940 S8: That's correct, that's correct. It even starts with the first 117 00:06:07,940 --> 00:06:11,780 S8: thing he says in Scripture. Genesis one one God is 118 00:06:11,779 --> 00:06:14,539 S8: a God of order. You know, in the beginning God 119 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:19,260 S8: created he and he took order out of disorder. First 120 00:06:19,260 --> 00:06:20,419 S8: thing order. 121 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:24,419 S7: Where else do we find in Scripture this theology of order? 122 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:29,860 S8: It's the the scriptures. The Bible is replete of of, 123 00:06:30,140 --> 00:06:34,700 S8: of scriptures. Just. It's everywhere. You you don't you don't 124 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:39,660 S8: have to go very far. Um, Ecclesiastes 311, he has 125 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:44,100 S8: made everything beautiful in its time. John. John nine four 126 00:06:44,140 --> 00:06:46,620 S8: is as long as it is day, we must work 127 00:06:46,620 --> 00:06:48,780 S8: of him who sent me. Night is coming and no 128 00:06:48,779 --> 00:06:52,690 S8: one can work. I love this one in Psalms 9012, 129 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:54,890 S8: teach us to number our days, that we may gain 130 00:06:54,890 --> 00:06:59,930 S8: a heart of wisdom. Yeah. Um, it's just, you know, 131 00:06:59,970 --> 00:07:03,610 S8: Ecclesiastes three one. There's a time for everything. A season 132 00:07:03,890 --> 00:07:08,529 S8: or activity under the heavens. Time is replete. Work for this. 133 00:07:08,529 --> 00:07:10,730 S8: The six days. And on the seventh day you rest. 134 00:07:10,770 --> 00:07:13,130 S8: I mean, it's it's everywhere. 135 00:07:13,170 --> 00:07:16,690 S7: Yeah, I love it that that Psalm 90 is such 136 00:07:16,690 --> 00:07:20,090 S7: a cool psalm because it's the only song that Moses wrote. 137 00:07:20,330 --> 00:07:24,330 S7: And I've been saying this a lot. He doesn't say 138 00:07:24,330 --> 00:07:28,570 S7: wise people redeem time. He says people redeem time and 139 00:07:28,570 --> 00:07:35,250 S7: bring order to their lives become wise, which is hugely hopeful. So, Eileen, um, 140 00:07:36,170 --> 00:07:39,650 S7: where do we begin when you're coaching someone who feels 141 00:07:39,650 --> 00:07:44,370 S7: like I'm disorganized? Um, maybe there's a clutter issue. Maybe 142 00:07:44,370 --> 00:07:48,010 S7: there's just no organization to the few things they have. 143 00:07:48,370 --> 00:07:51,190 S7: How when you're coaching someone. I want you to do 144 00:07:51,190 --> 00:07:55,070 S7: a mass coaching session here this morning. When you're coaching someone, 145 00:07:55,070 --> 00:07:56,150 S7: where do you begin? 146 00:07:57,030 --> 00:07:57,670 S8: Prayer. 147 00:07:58,350 --> 00:07:58,910 S7: Really? 148 00:07:59,550 --> 00:08:04,590 S8: Yes. Prayer. Because it's not about me. It's not about them. 149 00:08:04,590 --> 00:08:07,950 S8: It's about what the Holy Spirit wants to fulfill within them. 150 00:08:08,670 --> 00:08:09,070 S7: I love. 151 00:08:09,110 --> 00:08:12,190 S8: That. So the first thing you do is you pray 152 00:08:12,190 --> 00:08:15,830 S8: and you ask the Lord. So many of my clients go, Eileen. 153 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:19,030 S8: I always ask them, what's bothering you the most. And 154 00:08:19,030 --> 00:08:23,350 S8: they'll say, well, in terms of space, they'll say, you know, well, this, 155 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:25,710 S8: this one or this one or this one. I said, okay, 156 00:08:25,910 --> 00:08:28,510 S8: let's pray and ask the Lord. Which one does he 157 00:08:28,510 --> 00:08:32,710 S8: think is the priority? And they'll come back and they'll go, oh, Eileen, 158 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:35,429 S8: you know, that was really strange. I heard this, so 159 00:08:35,429 --> 00:08:38,390 S8: maybe we should start it here. So I said, okay. 160 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:41,630 S8: And so the thing about time is if you want 161 00:08:41,630 --> 00:08:45,869 S8: to do this, if you're really committed and you're really, 162 00:08:46,110 --> 00:08:48,590 S8: you know, this is a high priority in your life. 163 00:08:48,940 --> 00:08:52,260 S8: If you're saying yes to this, what are you saying 164 00:08:52,260 --> 00:08:56,660 S8: no to? In other words, we only all have 24 165 00:08:56,660 --> 00:09:00,780 S8: hours in a day. And if you want to create 166 00:09:00,780 --> 00:09:04,180 S8: something that you've never done before, you're going to have 167 00:09:04,179 --> 00:09:08,700 S8: to give something up in order to fulfill your desire. 168 00:09:09,020 --> 00:09:13,220 S7: You know, you've written get organized God's way, bring God's 169 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:17,140 S7: order into every area of your life, and you've been 170 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:22,460 S7: interchanging time redemption with organization. I'm getting a hint here 171 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:26,940 S7: that you think time redemption is paramount to getting things 172 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:28,540 S7: lined up. Is that true? 173 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:33,140 S8: That's correct, that's correct. Our we only have so many, 174 00:09:33,179 --> 00:09:35,700 S8: so many days. And then we're going to be with 175 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:38,780 S8: the Lord. And so the concept is, is that do 176 00:09:38,780 --> 00:09:41,380 S8: we want to continue to continue to do with what 177 00:09:41,380 --> 00:09:45,220 S8: the world has taught us to just stay focused on 178 00:09:45,220 --> 00:09:48,679 S8: materialism or stay focused on how busy we are has 179 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,520 S8: to so that we don't. We don't seep into those 180 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,280 S8: gifts and those callings that the Lord has planned for 181 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,160 S8: our lives before we were even born. Yeah. And, and 182 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,760 S8: we're all going to stand before the Lord. That's not 183 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,920 S8: the issue, but how we spent our time on earth, 184 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,000 S8: what we were able to accomplish with those giftings and 185 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,400 S8: those abilities that he only gave us. We're one body. 186 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,480 S8: We're not. You know what I do? I can't do 187 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,280 S8: what you do. So if we're one body, we have 188 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,199 S8: to understand what are our giftings? How can I qualify 189 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,480 S8: for all the purposes that God had placed in my life? 190 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,040 S8: So that when I stand before him, he will say, 191 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:32,920 S8: well done. 192 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,520 S7: I lean cough. My guest right now, sought after speaker, 193 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:41,320 S7: certified professional organizer, and an award winner of Best Green 194 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,760 S7: Service by the National Association of Productivity and Organizing Professionals. 195 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:48,030 S7: I still want to go after this because I think 196 00:10:48,030 --> 00:10:51,830 S7: you're right on, Eileen. This is really profound, but there's 197 00:10:51,830 --> 00:10:55,150 S7: a lot of people that want to get to that. 198 00:10:55,390 --> 00:10:59,990 S7: But they've got to clean up this. Why is that so? 199 00:11:00,710 --> 00:11:05,430 S8: In order to get to hear the Lord, he has 200 00:11:05,429 --> 00:11:11,670 S8: a still small voice. Clutter and disorganization screams. I mean, 201 00:11:11,710 --> 00:11:14,189 S8: I have so many clients that go. I go into 202 00:11:14,190 --> 00:11:17,790 S8: that spare bedroom. I can't even walk in. It's screaming 203 00:11:17,790 --> 00:11:20,750 S8: at me or I can't concentrate or I can't. And 204 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:26,189 S8: so what they are feeling is literally a very scientific back. 205 00:11:26,510 --> 00:11:30,510 S8: And that's equal that that back is by Albert Einstein. 206 00:11:30,550 --> 00:11:35,630 S8: E equals MC squared. All matter has energy. And so 207 00:11:35,630 --> 00:11:38,869 S8: when you walk into a small area with so much 208 00:11:39,030 --> 00:11:43,470 S8: stuff around you, all of that stuff is creating its 209 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:48,290 S8: own unconscious energy bombarding you. And so what you are 210 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:51,969 S8: hearing and what you are feeling is an unconsciousness of 211 00:11:52,050 --> 00:11:55,850 S8: that energy that's being propelled at you. And so you 212 00:11:55,850 --> 00:11:59,650 S8: have to leave. So in order for you to actually 213 00:12:00,050 --> 00:12:03,970 S8: begin hearing from the Lord in his still small voice, 214 00:12:04,370 --> 00:12:08,610 S8: you have to begin eliminating the shouting that the clutter 215 00:12:08,610 --> 00:12:09,690 S8: is giving to you. 216 00:12:09,890 --> 00:12:13,490 S7: Profound. Eileen Cough is my guest coming up here in 217 00:12:13,490 --> 00:12:16,569 S7: a moment. Let's get really practical. And then we're going 218 00:12:16,610 --> 00:12:18,530 S7: to have a link for you. Boom crew. Hang on. 219 00:12:18,570 --> 00:12:20,130 S7: More with Eileen straight ahead. 220 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:23,170 S1: Your shot of hope to get you through the day. 221 00:12:23,410 --> 00:12:26,770 S5: You are so, so loved. God does not want you 222 00:12:26,770 --> 00:12:28,850 S5: to stay in your past. And I want you to 223 00:12:28,890 --> 00:12:30,170 S5: know and believe that today. 224 00:12:30,170 --> 00:12:32,010 S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew. 225 00:12:32,450 --> 00:12:37,810 S7: Eileen Cough is my guest. She's a speaker, certified professional 226 00:12:37,809 --> 00:12:41,130 S7: organizer and award winner, by the way, from the National 227 00:12:41,130 --> 00:12:46,630 S7: Association of Productivity and organizing professionals. Eileen, let's just break 228 00:12:46,630 --> 00:12:51,230 S7: it down. You've established something good. When we have space 229 00:12:51,230 --> 00:12:55,390 S7: that is disorganized, I guess you don't even have to 230 00:12:55,429 --> 00:12:58,390 S7: not look at it to know that it's there, right? 231 00:12:58,429 --> 00:13:01,350 S7: Even those cupboards or closets, even if you got the 232 00:13:01,350 --> 00:13:04,510 S7: doors closed, it's still screaming your name, right? 233 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:08,990 S8: Well, in some respects, yes. Sometimes we've lived with it 234 00:13:08,990 --> 00:13:13,470 S8: for so long we don't even notice it. And so 235 00:13:13,510 --> 00:13:15,990 S8: when I say when you want to get started, take 236 00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:19,790 S8: a picture. Okay. Take a picture of the space and 237 00:13:19,790 --> 00:13:21,870 S8: then go into another room and take a look at 238 00:13:21,870 --> 00:13:25,069 S8: it and people will go, oh, it really doesn't look 239 00:13:25,070 --> 00:13:27,189 S8: like that, does it? Or, oh my gosh, I never 240 00:13:27,190 --> 00:13:30,790 S8: realized it was so bad. Or the look at things 241 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:35,710 S8: with with a picture is, is the truth. And they'll say, oh, 242 00:13:35,710 --> 00:13:39,309 S8: I never even realized it until I actually put it 243 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:43,100 S8: in and took a picture of this space, how bad 244 00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:44,220 S8: it really is. 245 00:13:44,380 --> 00:13:47,099 S7: What do you do then, Eileen? After you get a picture, 246 00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:50,699 S7: what do you do? But besides sitting down and and 247 00:13:50,700 --> 00:13:53,660 S7: grabbing a plate of Oreos. Because that's so discouraging. What 248 00:13:53,660 --> 00:13:54,380 S7: do you do? 249 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:57,860 S8: Well, it's different for everybody, but here's just a couple 250 00:13:57,900 --> 00:14:01,540 S8: of really good pointers that you can start with. I 251 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:04,540 S8: always say you can't do a whole room. You've got 252 00:14:04,540 --> 00:14:08,620 S8: to break it down into teeny tiny little, you know, places. 253 00:14:09,059 --> 00:14:13,660 S8: So I say, okay, so take a paper towel roll 254 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:17,100 S8: and put it up to your eye and take one 255 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:20,780 S8: little area of the corner of a room and whatever 256 00:14:20,780 --> 00:14:25,260 S8: is within that circle of that that you're looking through, 257 00:14:25,540 --> 00:14:29,460 S8: that's what you do. And they'll go, oh my gosh, 258 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:31,300 S8: you mean I don't have to do all of this 259 00:14:31,340 --> 00:14:32,020 S8: wall or all. 260 00:14:32,060 --> 00:14:33,220 S9: Of this space? 261 00:14:33,580 --> 00:14:38,620 S8: And I go, no, you just start small because in Scripture, 262 00:14:38,980 --> 00:14:44,040 S8: God has this already covered. It's in Joshua when Joshua 263 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,640 S8: goes and takes the land and that's what we're doing. 264 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,040 S8: We're taking our land and he says, you can only 265 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,000 S8: have it little by little. I'm giving it to you, 266 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,600 S8: but you're going to have to fight for it. Good. 267 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,320 S8: It's not just yours. You've got to fight for this, 268 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,200 S8: but you have to do it little by little. And why? 269 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,960 S8: Because the wild beasts will come in and devour everything 270 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,320 S8: you've done. If you do it all at once. 271 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,040 S7: Okay. What? What do you do next? You've looked through it. 272 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,200 S7: You've seen it. You've got the big picture. Now you've 273 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,840 S7: got the toilet paper roll. Love that picture. Now, what 274 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,360 S7: do you do? 275 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,860 S8: You set a timer. You only give yourself 10 or 276 00:15:23,860 --> 00:15:27,520 S8: 15 minutes a day. Now, why is that? Because this 277 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,760 S8: is new. And this has gone to bombard you with 278 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,120 S8: all kinds of thoughts and all kinds of emotions and 279 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,720 S8: everything that you that you have not tackled before. So 280 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,270 S8: you only want to do this 10 or 15 minutes 281 00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:45,990 S8: a day. But be consistent because you're building a habit, 282 00:15:46,270 --> 00:15:49,830 S8: you're building structure into your life that hasn't been there before. 283 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:53,910 S8: So when you do this, little by little, it all 284 00:15:53,910 --> 00:15:57,030 S8: of a sudden becomes so motivating and you can begin 285 00:15:57,070 --> 00:16:00,030 S8: seeing the results that you've never seen before. 286 00:16:00,430 --> 00:16:03,550 S7: How do you determine, Eileen, what needs to be thrown out, 287 00:16:03,550 --> 00:16:05,670 S7: what needs to be given away, and what needs to 288 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:06,630 S7: be held on to? 289 00:16:07,390 --> 00:16:11,070 S8: Well, the first thing I say is you can do 290 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:14,870 S8: what I call a treasure hunt. Okay. You can go 291 00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:18,310 S8: around saying that small little area and pick up the 292 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:20,990 S8: things that are most important to you. So that's your 293 00:16:20,990 --> 00:16:24,870 S8: treasure hunt for the day. Okay, so what wasn't picked 294 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:28,270 S8: up is either something that is to be put into 295 00:16:28,270 --> 00:16:32,990 S8: the trash or being recycled responsibly. And the other one 296 00:16:32,990 --> 00:16:37,550 S8: is blessing, I call it don't have a donate bin, 297 00:16:37,550 --> 00:16:39,890 S8: then have what I call the blessing bin. 298 00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:41,290 S7: Oh, yes. 299 00:16:41,930 --> 00:16:49,330 S8: Everything that you have in your home. Everything. Everything God 300 00:16:49,330 --> 00:16:53,770 S8: has blessed you with. And if you're not being responsible 301 00:16:53,770 --> 00:16:57,210 S8: with the blessings that God has given to you, he's 302 00:16:57,210 --> 00:17:01,210 S8: looking to see, can you bless someone else with it? 303 00:17:02,330 --> 00:17:05,090 S7: Guys, you're listening to Eileen Cough right now and there 304 00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:09,130 S7: are some gold nuggets in here. And I have already 305 00:17:09,130 --> 00:17:11,970 S7: taken a look at her website and it is loaded 306 00:17:11,970 --> 00:17:14,610 S7: with content. So here's what I want you to do. 307 00:17:15,090 --> 00:17:19,730 S7: You want a Christ centered way to tackle what seems 308 00:17:19,730 --> 00:17:23,650 S7: to be impossible? We've got a plan for you. Eileen does, 309 00:17:23,650 --> 00:17:31,010 S7: I should say, text the word order to 800 555 7898. 310 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:38,149 S7: One word order to 800 555 7898. You're going to 311 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:41,390 S7: find a wealth of content there. 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Let's 345 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,879 S7: let the Word of God direct us here. 346 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,840 S2: Absolutely. And I love having that. The understanding of God's 347 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,560 S2: character in that knowing we're created in the image of 348 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,320 S2: God we talked about earlier this hour. Why does it 349 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,040 S2: feel so good to have things clean and in order? Well, 350 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,120 S2: we're made in his image, so when we understand him more, 351 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,840 S2: we can understand some of these innate things within ourselves more. 352 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,800 S7: Amen. Alright, get the show cast by texting show to 353 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:08,880 S7: 800 555 7898 800 555 7898. Well the beat goes 354 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,359 S7: on here. Young Thunder. 355 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:10,840 S3: Where. 356 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:11,560 S2: Are we going? 357 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,879 S7: Well, the interesting thing is that we find ourselves maybe 358 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,240 S7: in clutter. And what if I told you that there's 359 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,600 S7: an emotional spiritual clutter that needs to be dealt with? 360 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,440 S7: First and foremost, we're going to be tackling that aspect 361 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,320 S7: of disorder coming up. 362 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,389 S1: She's a Choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her. 363 00:20:35,710 --> 00:20:39,510 S1: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew 364 00:20:39,550 --> 00:20:40,709 S1: on Moody Radio. 365 00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:44,550 S7: There's a classic term that's used Young Thunder. You've heard 366 00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:48,390 S7: this one before. The issue is rarely the issue. 367 00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:52,350 S2: Yeah, and it said a lot because it's true. If 368 00:20:52,350 --> 00:20:57,030 S2: I'm walking around grumbling and maybe having some trouble controlling 369 00:20:57,030 --> 00:21:00,229 S2: my anger, it's probably not just because the guy in 370 00:21:00,230 --> 00:21:02,389 S2: front of me cut me off. There's probably something deeper 371 00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:02,790 S2: to that. 372 00:21:02,910 --> 00:21:05,790 S7: I mean, scripture's clear. What comes out of your mouth 373 00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:09,030 S7: is really a heart issue. And counselors say the presenting 374 00:21:09,030 --> 00:21:13,070 S7: issue often isn't the issue, because what presents itself is 375 00:21:13,070 --> 00:21:17,149 S7: often something a little bit deeper. Lori Davies with me 376 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:22,430 S7: right now, former journalist, women's ministry director, and she's got 377 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:27,310 S7: a handle on this thing called emotional hoarding, letting go 378 00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:30,470 S7: of the stuff that keeps you stuck. We've got a 379 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:33,290 S7: whole week here of get it together, folks. And yet 380 00:21:33,290 --> 00:21:38,330 S7: there's no condemnation in this. What usually is the presenting issue? 381 00:21:38,369 --> 00:21:41,090 S7: That when you dig a little deeper, there's something emotional 382 00:21:41,130 --> 00:21:42,690 S7: going on. What do you say, Lori? 383 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:45,730 S10: Yeah, that's a loaded question right out of the chute. 384 00:21:45,730 --> 00:21:48,810 S10: I think maybe we could pick on anger for a 385 00:21:48,810 --> 00:21:52,250 S10: minute since since you brought that up, you know, anger, 386 00:21:52,290 --> 00:21:56,370 S10: we often talk about it as a secondary emotion. So 387 00:21:57,010 --> 00:22:02,290 S10: when we talk about quote unquote hoarding anger, to your point, 388 00:22:02,290 --> 00:22:05,490 S10: what we're really hoarding is something deeper. It takes a 389 00:22:05,530 --> 00:22:08,810 S10: lot of courage to go kind of digging for that, 390 00:22:08,810 --> 00:22:11,770 S10: looking in our emotional closets, if you will, because often 391 00:22:11,770 --> 00:22:19,530 S10: what we find there underneath anger is grief or loneliness. Fear, 392 00:22:19,690 --> 00:22:22,930 S10: something that's much harder to express. Anger is easier to grab, 393 00:22:23,130 --> 00:22:25,210 S10: which is why when someone cuts you off in traffic, 394 00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:28,970 S10: you unload in anger. But yeah, to your point, there's 395 00:22:29,010 --> 00:22:31,070 S10: there's almost always something deeper. 396 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:35,109 S7: Yeah, I'm, I'm loving this topic. I don't know that 397 00:22:35,109 --> 00:22:39,310 S7: we've ever gone after this. Um, you know, we can 398 00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:45,190 S7: think about organizationally stuff that you hoard, but your contention 399 00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:49,830 S7: is emotionally, if we don't offload and clean the shelves 400 00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:52,030 S7: of our heart, it's going to bite us in the 401 00:22:52,030 --> 00:22:54,310 S7: backside here. Bottom line. Right. Lori. 402 00:22:54,910 --> 00:22:57,949 S10: Yeah, that's a really clear bottom line. I mean, I 403 00:22:57,950 --> 00:23:04,110 S10: think emotionally hoarded hearts are an awful lot like physically 404 00:23:04,109 --> 00:23:09,909 S10: hoarded homes. There's only so much space. And at a 405 00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:13,910 S10: certain point in a hoarded home, for example, entire rooms 406 00:23:13,910 --> 00:23:17,710 S10: stopped working the way they were designed to, to work. 407 00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:20,430 S10: You know, you can't make dinner in the kitchen anymore 408 00:23:20,430 --> 00:23:24,150 S10: because there's stuff stacked everywhere. So it's the same in 409 00:23:24,150 --> 00:23:27,510 S10: an emotionally hoarded heart, you know, entire areas of our 410 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:31,260 S10: heart Stop working right. If we don't, let the Lord 411 00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:34,859 S10: be Lord over everything in there. 412 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:39,220 S7: Uh, Lori. So let's, let's even back up a little 413 00:23:39,260 --> 00:23:43,100 S7: bit more. What is emotional hoarding? 414 00:23:44,060 --> 00:23:46,260 S10: Yeah, that's a great question. I think we're all familiar 415 00:23:46,260 --> 00:23:50,500 S10: with emotional baggage, right? Right. So when we use that term, 416 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:57,500 S10: we're generally talking about, um un processed undealt with difficult emotions. 417 00:23:57,540 --> 00:24:00,899 S10: And so this emotional hoarding, this concept kind of takes 418 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:04,379 S10: that up a notch because this is now we're getting 419 00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:09,820 S10: into emotions that we have allowed to accumulate. Sometimes we 420 00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:14,740 S10: do that willingly. You know, we like holding on to grudges, 421 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:19,020 S10: which the emotion attached to that is bitterness. Sometimes we 422 00:24:19,020 --> 00:24:23,020 S10: do it in sort of a self-preservation way, right? Like 423 00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:27,080 S10: we learned patterns in childhood. We learned to say sorry 424 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,160 S10: for things that maybe weren't our fault. So now we 425 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,840 S10: struggle with false guilt. And sometimes we think we should 426 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,720 S10: hold on. If we hold on to that shame that'll 427 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,640 S10: keep us from relapsing into sin. So there's a variety 428 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,000 S10: of reasons why we hold on. But this idea of 429 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,080 S10: emotional hoarding is emotional accumulation. 430 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,120 S7: How many people are emotionally hoarding because they don't want 431 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,400 S7: to let someone else off the hook? 432 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,600 S10: Oh, man. Well, all of us maybe. 433 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,680 S7: Yeah, I think probably 100% right at some level. 434 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,400 S10: Yeah, at some point in our lives. Actually, I like 435 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,440 S10: that question a lot because one of the things that 436 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,600 S10: surprised me when I was researching this book. Emotional hoarding 437 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,720 S10: was that statistically, at any given time, each of us 438 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,720 S10: is holding on to seven grudges. 439 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,000 S11: Wow. Wow. 440 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,240 S7: There's science on this. 441 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,950 S10: There's science. And actually, I said that at a retreat 442 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:29,630 S10: last weekend. And, you know, there were a couple women 443 00:25:29,670 --> 00:25:31,629 S10: seated near the front that were kind of like making 444 00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:35,230 S10: the facial expression. I'm not holding a grudge. And to 445 00:25:35,270 --> 00:25:38,230 S10: that I said, and if you feel like you have 446 00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:41,189 S10: a clean slate, you're not a grudge holder. You forgive easily. 447 00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:43,230 S10: That's great news. But that means the woman next to 448 00:25:43,230 --> 00:25:44,869 S10: you is holding grudges. 449 00:25:46,869 --> 00:25:50,710 S7: And the one you've thought that is. It isn't true anyway. Um. 450 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:51,510 S10: Right. Yeah. 451 00:25:52,030 --> 00:25:57,590 S7: So if you're going to not emotionally hoard grudges, what's 452 00:25:57,630 --> 00:26:00,030 S7: God planned to deal with them? And I'm not talking 453 00:26:00,030 --> 00:26:03,350 S7: about all out bitterness, I'm just talking about grudges because 454 00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:06,109 S7: those can be nagging and weighty, can't they? 455 00:26:07,910 --> 00:26:10,470 S10: Yeah, I think I think it takes a little bit 456 00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:14,109 S10: of courage to look in the mirror and say, you know, 457 00:26:14,150 --> 00:26:19,710 S10: I'm holding on to this and I like how it feels. Yeah. 458 00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:24,250 S10: So I think that's a good starting point. But I 459 00:26:24,530 --> 00:26:27,410 S10: think it just takes a you know, when Jesus said, 460 00:26:27,410 --> 00:26:31,410 S10: carry your cross daily. I used to think that meant 461 00:26:31,410 --> 00:26:34,850 S10: just check marks on a reading plan. I think this 462 00:26:34,850 --> 00:26:38,250 S10: is the kind of stuff he was talking about. Lay 463 00:26:38,250 --> 00:26:40,689 S10: it down. It's not worth the cost. 464 00:26:41,330 --> 00:26:44,050 S7: Laura Davies is my guest right now. Coming up here 465 00:26:44,050 --> 00:26:47,330 S7: in a moment. Let's get. We can't unpack all of 466 00:26:47,330 --> 00:26:50,969 S7: it because you've written on it extensively, but let's give 467 00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:56,250 S7: some basic steps of how you identify emotional hoarding and 468 00:26:56,250 --> 00:26:58,810 S7: how you begin to offload it more with my guest, 469 00:26:58,850 --> 00:27:00,209 S7: Laura Davies, straight ahead. 470 00:27:00,650 --> 00:27:03,410 S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 471 00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:06,690 S7: Laura Davies with me right now, she's the author of 472 00:27:06,690 --> 00:27:09,090 S7: a brand new book, and we're going to feature this 473 00:27:09,130 --> 00:27:12,330 S7: in just a moment. But one of the cool things, 474 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:14,730 S7: and when I say brand new, I'm talking this month, guys, 475 00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:17,450 S7: one of the cool things that we're tackling here today 476 00:27:17,450 --> 00:27:19,969 S7: that I don't think we've ever gotten after this directly 477 00:27:19,970 --> 00:27:24,560 S7: is emotional hoarding. How do you help people identify whether 478 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,320 S7: they're hoarding really bad emotions? Because not all emotions are bad. 479 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,359 S7: By the way, but how do you help people identify 480 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,680 S7: if they're doing that? 481 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:38,800 S10: Each chapter in emotional hoarding deals with an emotion. And 482 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,040 S10: so in each chapter, there's kind of a cheat sheet on, hey, 483 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:48,000 S10: this might be building up in you if a, b, c, d, e. Um, 484 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,919 S10: so globally 10,000 foot view, I would say we can 485 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,880 S10: tell we're emotional hoarders if we're ruminating on something, think 486 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,840 S10: about it all the time. Or if we're completely avoiding 487 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,080 S10: it going the opposite direction, like you've heard the euphemism, 488 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,359 S10: you know, just sweeping things under the rug. 489 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:05,960 S7: Yes. 490 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,840 S10: So one way or the other, a lot of this 491 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,720 S10: stuff shows up in our physiology. You know, we're not 492 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:17,440 S10: sleeping well. Our tummies hurt. Um, so there are those 493 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,520 S10: kind of global symptoms, but then in each chapter I 494 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,660 S10: look at, well, what happens if worthlessness has built up 495 00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:29,660 S10: in you? What are the symptoms of that? Same with fear. 496 00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:33,860 S10: Same with worry. Same with bitterness. We've already hit on. 497 00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:38,140 S10: So I think the reader will kind of be able 498 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:42,060 S10: to look step by step at, hey, this. This might 499 00:28:42,060 --> 00:28:44,300 S10: have built up and I didn't even see it. 500 00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:47,300 S7: So let's take a big one. Let's take the emotion 501 00:28:47,340 --> 00:28:51,940 S7: of bitterness over betrayal. Okay, let's just go after that one. 502 00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:54,340 S7: If I walk into you and I say, and by 503 00:28:54,340 --> 00:28:58,100 S7: the way, this is women and men, everybody struggles with this. 504 00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,260 S7: But let's say I walk in you and go, Lori. 505 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:05,660 S7: All right, here's the deal. I was burned by a buddy, 506 00:29:06,140 --> 00:29:09,420 S7: and that betrayal hurts. And the reason it's betrayal is 507 00:29:09,420 --> 00:29:11,500 S7: because he was a buddy, right? You don't you don't 508 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,620 S7: feel betrayed by the guy on the street that calls 509 00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:17,460 S7: you an idiot. So I was betrayed. Now I've got 510 00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:21,480 S7: this emotion that I'm holding on to or hoarding. How 511 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,400 S7: do I let it go? 512 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,240 S10: Well, first you have to identify it. We can't fix 513 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,280 S10: what we won't name. So I think take inventory first. 514 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,320 S10: Are you consumed with negativity toward that person? Do you 515 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,320 S10: not like it? If something good happens to that person. 516 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,920 S7: Oh good one. 517 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,120 S10: Do you keep tabs on that person not letting them 518 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,240 S10: out of your life? Like, do you do you kind 519 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,479 S10: of check their social media all the time? Um, do 520 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,480 S10: you feel irritated if their name comes up? So I 521 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,000 S10: think first we have to look at is this has 522 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,040 S10: this built up in me? And then for the letting go, 523 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,560 S10: I think there has to be a movement toward, Lord, 524 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,360 S10: I'm willing to start this process of forgiveness. You know, 525 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,400 S10: the the dad in Mark nine, the dad who says, 526 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,480 S10: I believe, Lord, help my unbelief. I think we kind 527 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,200 S10: of start the same process with forgiveness. Like, Lord, I 528 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,510 S10: forgive all my unforgiveness And we enter that process of, 529 00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:24,030 S10: of understanding that bitterness isn't going to get us closer 530 00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:26,790 S10: to Christ. It's not going to get us closer to people. 531 00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:30,950 S10: And in the end, it's just not worth the toll 532 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:32,469 S10: that it takes on our hearts. 533 00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:37,390 S7: What's the blue sky vision here? Lori. Lori Davies, my guest, 534 00:30:37,390 --> 00:30:39,709 S7: by the way, author of this new book, Emotional Hoarding. 535 00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:40,990 S7: I'm going to have a link for you here in 536 00:30:40,990 --> 00:30:42,950 S7: just a moment, not only to the book but to 537 00:30:42,990 --> 00:30:45,550 S7: her site. So it's going to be a cool, cool 538 00:30:45,550 --> 00:30:48,510 S7: link here. But what's the blue sky vision? What are 539 00:30:48,510 --> 00:30:51,190 S7: we aiming for? How do you I mean, come on, 540 00:30:51,230 --> 00:30:53,590 S7: put a carrot out there. What are we going after here? 541 00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:59,190 S10: Freedom. Freedom is our target. I think if we're looking 542 00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:02,790 S10: essentially at what happens when things stack up, we're talking 543 00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:08,990 S10: about grudges. Maybe dread around secrets, regrets, fear when all 544 00:31:09,030 --> 00:31:12,190 S10: of that stuff compounds. Well, that starts to sound like 545 00:31:12,190 --> 00:31:13,350 S10: a life of bondage. 546 00:31:13,710 --> 00:31:14,150 S11: Yeah. 547 00:31:14,830 --> 00:31:19,090 S10: That's exactly where the enemy wants us to. 548 00:31:19,090 --> 00:31:21,250 S7: Here it is, guys. Boom! Crew, we want to get 549 00:31:21,250 --> 00:31:24,650 S7: this in your hands. Text the word stuck. It's called 550 00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:28,490 S7: emotional hoarding. Letting go of the stuff that keeps you stuck. 551 00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:34,890 S7: Just text the word stuck to 805, five, five, 78, 98, 552 00:31:34,930 --> 00:31:40,450 S7: 805 five, five, 7898. You're going to find two links 553 00:31:40,450 --> 00:31:43,770 S7: embedded there. Use them both and watch God work in 554 00:31:43,770 --> 00:31:46,810 S7: your life. Freedom is the goal. Text the word stuck 555 00:31:46,810 --> 00:31:50,970 S7: to 800 555 78, 98. 556 00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:55,330 S1: Get to know the team behind the scenes. Follow Carl 557 00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:57,530 S1: and crew on Facebook and Instagram. 558 00:31:58,090 --> 00:32:02,930 S7: Yeah man, what a day. What a day. You know 559 00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:03,770 S7: what today is? 560 00:32:04,530 --> 00:32:05,330 S2: What's today? 561 00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:05,890 S3: I know. 562 00:32:06,370 --> 00:32:07,370 S7: What's today. 563 00:32:07,530 --> 00:32:08,490 S12: Saint Patrick's day. 564 00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:09,450 S7: It sure is. 565 00:32:09,490 --> 00:32:09,690 S2: Oh. 566 00:32:09,690 --> 00:32:10,010 S3: Is it? 567 00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:12,010 S12: Are you wearing green? Oh, no you're not. I don't 568 00:32:12,010 --> 00:32:14,570 S12: think any of us know. I'm sorry about all of 569 00:32:14,570 --> 00:32:16,280 S12: us going. Scoring. Well, there you go. 570 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,080 S7: So what did you know about super? I nailed it. 571 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,600 S7: What did you know about Saint Patrick's Day? I knew 572 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,360 S7: one thing as a kid growing up. 573 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:26,960 S3: Was that. 574 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,440 S7: You got to wear green. 575 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,440 S2: Gotta wear green or you get pinched. 576 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,720 S12: That was about it. Yeah. 577 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,200 S7: And then as I got older, I learned one other 578 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,720 S7: thing about Saint Patrick's Day. 579 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,000 S2: What's that? 580 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,560 S7: You know, it's a day for drinking. 581 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,280 S3: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Pubs are. 582 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,440 S7: Flowing and. 583 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,200 S3: Green. 584 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,360 S7: Beer and all that stuff. 585 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:46,800 S3: Yeah. 586 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:53,360 S7: You know, it's interesting. Um, it's interesting how we have 587 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,480 S7: to be careful with history or else great legacies can 588 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,800 S7: be lost. Right, guys? 589 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,600 S3: Very true. 590 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:00,400 S12: Yeah. 591 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,840 S7: I was thinking about this last night. And this morning 592 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,040 S7: as I was working on a project of Saint Patrick, who, 593 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,440 S7: by the way, 300 find out his birth date. I 594 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,820 S7: don't actually have that. I think we've got it pinned 595 00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:21,980 S7: down somewhere. But he was taken as a slave. Uh, 596 00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:26,380 S7: to Ireland when he was 16 years old, guys. And 597 00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:30,380 S7: he worked alone in the cold. And he was raised 598 00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:34,540 S7: in a Christian home. But as often is the case, 599 00:33:35,020 --> 00:33:37,340 S7: he was Christian in name only when he was taken 600 00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:41,140 S7: as a slave. But then God got a hold of 601 00:33:41,140 --> 00:33:47,500 S7: him in the middle of the day, middle of the night, cold, alone, hurting. 602 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:54,660 S7: And boy did did God do a work in his life. 603 00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:58,380 S7: Saint Patrick is one of the most extraordinary guys going, 604 00:33:58,660 --> 00:34:03,900 S7: one of the most extraordinary guys going. And we're going 605 00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:07,940 S7: to do something really fun here this half hour. We're 606 00:34:07,940 --> 00:34:10,779 S7: going to reach back and I want you to I 607 00:34:10,780 --> 00:34:13,520 S7: don't care if it's Kelly. I don't care if it's 608 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,799 S7: Brother Lawrence. I don't care who it is. But if 609 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,040 S7: you want to champion one of the greats of old 610 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,319 S7: and give us a quick snapshot about their life in 611 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,040 S7: like 3 or 4 sentences, somebody who's dead and gone, 612 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,560 S7: maybe long dead and gone, and you want to get 613 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,759 S7: a snapshot of their life. Maybe you just know a 614 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,080 S7: few things about them and have read their writings. Maybe 615 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,640 S7: it's a watchman nee, for instance, who was, uh, passed 616 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:51,560 S7: away in 1972 in prison in China, 20 years incarcerated 617 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,480 S7: for his faith, was given an opportunity to come to America. 618 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,440 S7: I mean, there's another one, right? Wow. 619 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,239 S2: Great legacy. 620 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,800 S7: The problem with Saint Patrick is that what got lost 621 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,600 S7: in this thing is you got to wear green or 622 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,480 S7: it's a day for drinking, right? And the dude had 623 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,910 S7: so much more than that. Let me tell you how 624 00:35:12,910 --> 00:35:18,029 S7: much more I have got a link for you that 625 00:35:18,030 --> 00:35:20,710 S7: is going to take you to a post that I 626 00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:24,549 S7: made about Saint Patrick. It's not fully exhaustive, but it's 627 00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:29,589 S7: got quotes from his quote confession, which is a great writing, 628 00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:33,390 S7: and it tells the story of Saint Patrick. So I'm 629 00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:35,830 S7: going to let you read it first. Then I'm going 630 00:35:35,830 --> 00:35:37,670 S7: to expand on it a little bit for this next 631 00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:40,390 S7: 30 minutes. But we're going to take your calls as well. 632 00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:44,190 S7: But I want you to grab this. We need to 633 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:49,390 S7: reclaim the legacy of Saint Patrick today. Put a stake 634 00:35:49,390 --> 00:35:51,830 S7: in the ground and go, no, this is who this 635 00:35:51,830 --> 00:35:55,430 S7: guy was. And what a rich man of faith. I 636 00:35:55,430 --> 00:36:00,109 S7: can't wait to meet Saint Patrick. My goodness. And by 637 00:36:00,110 --> 00:36:02,550 S7: the way, we don't pray to him. Saint Patrick wouldn't 638 00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:06,350 S7: have wanted that. Oh, wait. We got one mediator between 639 00:36:06,350 --> 00:36:10,610 S7: God and man, and his name is Jesus. Yeah, but boy, 640 00:36:10,610 --> 00:36:14,730 S7: what a life, what a life, what a legacy, what courage. 641 00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:19,730 S7: And it was forged in faith. Responsible for. I can't 642 00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:24,890 S7: hold myself back. Responsible for baptizing thousands upon thousands of 643 00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:28,770 S7: people in Ireland. Went back to the very people that 644 00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:32,930 S7: had taken them captive. Even though God had delivered him. 645 00:36:32,930 --> 00:36:36,570 S7: He heard in a vision the the voice of people 646 00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:40,489 S7: of Ireland saying, come back here, boy, you who were 647 00:36:40,489 --> 00:36:44,930 S7: rich in faith, come back to us. And he did it. 648 00:36:44,969 --> 00:36:48,890 S7: Risk of death at every corner. So just text the 649 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:54,290 S7: word pat p a t not saint, not Patrick, just 650 00:36:54,290 --> 00:37:00,529 S7: pat to 800 555 7898. I want you to get 651 00:37:00,530 --> 00:37:04,330 S7: a real taste of Saint Patrick's Day, and I've just 652 00:37:04,330 --> 00:37:06,250 S7: got the Cliff's Notes there. And then at the end 653 00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:09,799 S7: of this post, I've got a few little takeaways for you. 654 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:17,600 S7: Text the word pat p a t to 800 555 7898. 655 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:25,120 S7: One word pat to 800 555 7898. Today we're going 656 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,000 S7: to reclaim the legacy of Saint Patrick. What a fun 657 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,640 S7: thing to do on Saint Patrick's Day. 658 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,040 S12: Man, I love this, I really do, I really do. 659 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,320 S2: Let's make it more than just. 660 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:35,760 S3: A day. 661 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,360 S2: For partying. 662 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,600 S12: And green, you know? 663 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,200 S3: Yeah, I mean, yeah. 664 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,200 S7: Dye the river green. That's okay. By the way, I 665 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,120 S7: didn't know that in the in in the river downtown Chicago. 666 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,879 S7: I didn't know it only took double check me on 667 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,760 S7: this one. I thought I misheard and maybe I did, 668 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,520 S7: but £40 or something of this dye. That can't be, 669 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:02,240 S7: can it? Anyway, forget Diane Rivers or drinking green beer. 670 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,620 S7: Text the word pat to 800 555 7898. Got a 671 00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:09,380 S7: link for you that's going to take you to a 672 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:14,740 S7: post that I made that's reclaiming this great legacy. One 673 00:38:14,739 --> 00:38:20,180 S7: word Pat p a t to 800 555 7898. And 674 00:38:20,180 --> 00:38:24,100 S7: coming up, we're going to flashback, reclaim a ton of 675 00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:26,259 S7: legacies in the next 30 minutes is going to be 676 00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:28,300 S7: a fun little exercise, isn't it guys. 677 00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:28,500 S3: I. 678 00:38:28,540 --> 00:38:28,779 S2: Can't. 679 00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:29,100 S3: Wait. 680 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:29,779 S12: Looking forward to. 681 00:38:29,820 --> 00:38:30,060 S3: It. 682 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,580 S1: Hang on your shot of hope to help you through 683 00:38:34,580 --> 00:38:38,540 S1: the day. This is Karl and crew on Moody Radio. 684 00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:42,780 S7: Who invented that beer drinking garbage about Saint Patrick's? 685 00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:44,380 S3: I don't know. Here's how. 686 00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:47,380 S7: Here's how it happened. It actually happened with the Irish 687 00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:50,900 S7: immigrants to America because they wanted to keep their culture strong. 688 00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:54,180 S7: They felt very alienated. You talk about a persecuted group 689 00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:57,620 S7: of people. When the Irish came stateside here, they were 690 00:38:57,620 --> 00:39:01,980 S7: looked down upon big time. So there was a desire 691 00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:04,259 S7: to keep that culture alive and they turned it into 692 00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:07,719 S7: a festival and then it just kind of slid downhill 693 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,680 S7: into green beer and green rivers, and you got to 694 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,439 S7: wear green or you get pinched. Yeah, but what a 695 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,120 S7: bummer if it stayed there. 696 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,480 S2: Yeah, I mean, we had it. This is not the 697 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,960 S2: first time we've seen people or holidays that are honored 698 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,440 S2: for something noble or, or Christ like. Take Christmas for example. 699 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,840 S2: And then it's turned into like, well, we got Santa 700 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,000 S2: Claus and he gives gifts and presents and he comes 701 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,040 S2: down your chimney and eats your cookies and milk. And 702 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:34,760 S2: it's like, well. 703 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,400 S3: Yeah, and. 704 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,200 S7: Santa is cool. 705 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,560 S3: Santa. 706 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,160 S2: I don't, I ain't got no problem with. 707 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,200 S3: Santa, but. 708 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,880 S7: Christ is. 709 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,160 S3: Better. 710 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,000 S7: Central. 711 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,600 S2: Yes. 712 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,560 S7: So the birth of the savior of the world. 713 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,920 S2: Yeah. You gotta have that. 714 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,480 S3: Yeah. 715 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,600 S2: So yeah, no, I yeah, we lose the we lose 716 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,120 S2: the point sometimes on some of these things. It's good 717 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,440 S2: to go back and reclaim and understand what these things 718 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,400 S2: are really about. 719 00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,960 S3: Yeah. 720 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,000 S7: So text the word pat and, uh, I've got the 721 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,670 S7: whole story. Not the whole story, but I got the 722 00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:09,629 S7: high points of Saint Patrick's life. It'll blow your mind. 723 00:40:09,630 --> 00:40:12,589 S7: It'll blow the circuits. You're going to find out how 724 00:40:12,590 --> 00:40:15,190 S7: the shamrock is more than a shake. It was used 725 00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:18,270 S7: to explain the Holy Trinity. That's what he used it for. 726 00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:22,670 S2: That's crazy. The Shamrock shake, man. I remember when I 727 00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:26,830 S2: worked at McDonald's. Shamrock Shake big. Obviously someone came in 728 00:40:26,830 --> 00:40:29,950 S2: and ordered over 200 small Shamrock shakes. 729 00:40:31,110 --> 00:40:31,710 S3: Not joking. 730 00:40:32,469 --> 00:40:33,990 S2: For a big party, they were having. 731 00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:36,110 S12: A joke or something. 732 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:38,150 S2: Okay, it was a real thing. We put them in 733 00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:40,390 S2: cardboard boxes because they had no other way to carry them. 734 00:40:40,750 --> 00:40:40,950 S3: All right. 735 00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:42,750 S7: We're going to have some fun here. Right now. We're 736 00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:46,109 S7: not talking Shamrock Shakes here. I can't imagine how many 737 00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:50,350 S7: chemicals were in those suckers a lot. Oh. When? When 738 00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:53,310 S7: you buy stuff in in. It's designed to melt, but 739 00:40:53,310 --> 00:40:54,990 S7: it doesn't. It just gets hard. 740 00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:57,390 S2: It gets hard. It doesn't. 741 00:40:57,390 --> 00:40:58,190 S3: Get hard. 742 00:40:58,230 --> 00:41:00,709 S7: No, I mean, cheap ice cream doesn't melt. It just 743 00:41:00,710 --> 00:41:04,770 S7: sits there and kind of coagulates. I mean, it melts 744 00:41:04,810 --> 00:41:07,930 S7: a little. No, I'm not kidding you guys. I know 745 00:41:07,930 --> 00:41:09,410 S7: I'm going crazy here. 746 00:41:09,450 --> 00:41:09,770 S3: I know. 747 00:41:09,770 --> 00:41:10,170 S12: But I'm like. 748 00:41:10,690 --> 00:41:11,569 S3: Oh, I love it. 749 00:41:12,370 --> 00:41:14,650 S7: If you want to hear about Saint Patrick, text the 750 00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:16,850 S7: word Pat to our number here, man, I've got it 751 00:41:16,850 --> 00:41:19,890 S7: laid out for you in bullet format with some takeaways 752 00:41:19,890 --> 00:41:24,570 S7: at the end and, uh, follow along guys. Text Pat 753 00:41:24,570 --> 00:41:31,770 S7: to 800 555 7898 800 555 7898. Okay. This leads 754 00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:35,649 S7: to a phenomenal discussion. Do you know how many stories 755 00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:38,089 S7: of greats that have gone before us, that lived these 756 00:41:38,090 --> 00:41:41,969 S7: incredible lives? And some of you have read about them 757 00:41:41,969 --> 00:41:45,770 S7: recently or, and there's myriad of these. I mean, you 758 00:41:45,810 --> 00:41:49,489 S7: take Kelly, the Quaker. I love his writings. You take, uh, 759 00:41:49,489 --> 00:41:55,210 S7: watchman nee surprised by the spirit. Is that is that. Yeah. 760 00:41:55,210 --> 00:41:59,089 S7: That's watchman nee uh, you take I mean, the list 761 00:41:59,090 --> 00:42:01,730 S7: goes on and on. We did this earlier this morning. 762 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,560 S7: Early this morning Chuck Colson came up. Beautiful man. I 763 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,640 S7: mean there's greats out there. So I'm asking you to 764 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,880 S7: call and in 2 to 3 sentences talk about the greats. 765 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,879 S7: And these are not I'm not looking for family members necessarily. 766 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,840 S7: I'm looking for these historic figures that are maybe somewhat 767 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,560 S7: obscure to the modern mind. But man, they've got a 768 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,770 S7: their life is a story to tell. And in 3 769 00:42:27,770 --> 00:42:31,760 S7: or 4 sentences, share it. Give us a call 800 770 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,240 S7: 555 7898. Give us a call right now. Light it up. 771 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040 S7: 800 555 7898. 772 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,399 S1: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to 773 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,560 S1: Carl and Cru. 774 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,359 S7: Yeah, man, we're just taking your stories here. I want 775 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,560 S7: you to think about this one for a moment. Boom Cru, 776 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,359 S7: think about the people that have gone before us. And 777 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,640 S7: I'm not I'm not. I want to be specific here. 778 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,339 S7: I'm actually looking for people who have gone on to 779 00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:04,540 S7: their reward. These are spiritual greats that have gone on 780 00:43:04,580 --> 00:43:09,420 S7: to their reward. And think about their lives. Uh, Young Thunder, 781 00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:12,660 S7: you were mentioning Elizabeth Elliot, and that's my wife's love language. 782 00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:13,140 S7: How about you? 783 00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:15,540 S12: Super day. I mean, without a doubt, Billy Graham was 784 00:43:15,540 --> 00:43:18,100 S12: the first one that popped into my head. Yeah, without 785 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:20,779 S12: a doubt. I mean, the most prominent. I mean, come on. 786 00:43:20,820 --> 00:43:24,820 S12: Evangelist of the 20th century, another C.S. Lewis. Yeah. His writings. 787 00:43:24,820 --> 00:43:26,620 S12: Come on. Yeah. Big time. 788 00:43:26,660 --> 00:43:26,859 S3: Yeah. 789 00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:30,260 S7: Good stuff, good stuff. So we're taking your calls here. 790 00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:33,060 S7: Let's celebrate the lives and legacy of those that have 791 00:43:33,060 --> 00:43:36,140 S7: gone before us here. It's an awesome thing to look 792 00:43:36,140 --> 00:43:39,220 S7: back at these lives. I mean, I, I think about 793 00:43:39,260 --> 00:43:41,460 S7: Watchman Nee. I don't know if there are any other 794 00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:43,420 S7: watchman nee fans out there. 795 00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:46,060 S2: I, I did not know about Watchman Nee until you 796 00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:46,899 S2: had talked about him. 797 00:43:46,940 --> 00:43:48,180 S3: Oh my goodness. 798 00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:49,060 S12: With Jonathan. 799 00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:53,740 S2: And I love the story. I they offered him the 800 00:43:53,739 --> 00:43:58,859 S2: opportunity to stay alive if he just would leave the country. 801 00:43:59,210 --> 00:43:59,730 S7: China? 802 00:43:59,770 --> 00:44:02,410 S2: Yeah. China. And he said, no, I'm not gonna do it. 803 00:44:02,410 --> 00:44:05,010 S2: This is this is where God has called me to be. 804 00:44:05,290 --> 00:44:08,009 S2: They kept him in prison. And for years he faced 805 00:44:08,210 --> 00:44:12,250 S2: so much persecution and hardship and eventually died there. But 806 00:44:12,250 --> 00:44:14,210 S2: I couldn't believe it. It was a great story of 807 00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:15,610 S2: his and faithfulness. 808 00:44:15,650 --> 00:44:19,969 S7: It's phenomenal for sure. Samantha in Miami, Florida. What do 809 00:44:19,969 --> 00:44:20,810 S7: you say, Samantha? 810 00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:27,690 S13: Hello. Um, I'm very inspired by Horatio Spafford. Um, despite 811 00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:31,049 S13: all the hardship that he went through, he continued to 812 00:44:31,050 --> 00:44:34,569 S13: be a great man of God and used everything he 813 00:44:34,570 --> 00:44:36,130 S13: went through to spread the gospel. 814 00:44:36,610 --> 00:44:37,570 S7: You got that right. 815 00:44:38,010 --> 00:44:43,290 S13: Having gone to Israel and established, uh, churches and outreach there, he, uh, 816 00:44:43,290 --> 00:44:46,490 S13: he did a lot of his work is still, uh, 817 00:44:46,810 --> 00:44:49,250 S13: there shining through the through the darkness. 818 00:44:49,290 --> 00:44:49,650 S3: Yeah. 819 00:44:49,690 --> 00:44:51,730 S7: Big time. Amazing. Grace. Right? 820 00:44:51,770 --> 00:44:54,250 S2: Horatio Spafford uh, it is well, with my soul. 821 00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:57,169 S7: It is well with my soul. That's right. Yeah, it 822 00:44:57,170 --> 00:44:58,149 S7: is well with my soul. 823 00:44:58,190 --> 00:45:01,190 S3: He wrote that following the great Chicago Fire. 824 00:45:01,190 --> 00:45:02,030 S2: I didn't know that. 825 00:45:02,070 --> 00:45:02,470 S3: Yeah. 826 00:45:03,950 --> 00:45:04,589 S7: Really? 827 00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:06,790 S2: Yeah. It was it was in follow up to the 828 00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:08,070 S2: Great Chicago Fire. 829 00:45:08,110 --> 00:45:09,069 S3: I did not know that. 830 00:45:09,110 --> 00:45:12,469 S2: And the deaths of his four daughters on a transatlantic 831 00:45:12,469 --> 00:45:15,629 S2: voyage aboard the S.S. Harvey. 832 00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:21,710 S7: Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's, uh, you might want to 833 00:45:21,710 --> 00:45:22,870 S7: tee that one up here. 834 00:45:22,910 --> 00:45:24,149 S3: Yeah, you got it here. 835 00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:24,310 S7: My. 836 00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:24,670 S3: Man. 837 00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:30,430 S7: Yeah. It is. Well, with my soul. MM. Good stuff. So, 838 00:45:30,430 --> 00:45:33,469 S7: what do you say? Boom! Crew. Who is that person 839 00:45:33,469 --> 00:45:39,150 S7: that has gone before us? And they left a legacy 840 00:45:39,150 --> 00:45:47,830 S7: that's so incredibly powerful. 805, five five, 78, 98, 800 841 00:45:47,830 --> 00:45:53,910 S7: 555 7898. We'll get back to your phone calls here 842 00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:54,830 S7: in just a moment. 843 00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:59,690 S1: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight. 844 00:45:59,890 --> 00:46:03,690 S1: Super di is in the crew. It's curl and crew 845 00:46:03,690 --> 00:46:04,930 S1: on Moody Radio. 846 00:46:05,170 --> 00:46:07,209 S7: Man, we got a lot of feedback coming in here 847 00:46:07,210 --> 00:46:10,290 S7: right now. This is beautiful. Who's that great. That's gone 848 00:46:10,290 --> 00:46:13,090 S7: before us that we can't leave and lose the legacy. 849 00:46:13,090 --> 00:46:14,930 S7: By the way, I've been spiking this on the heels 850 00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:19,609 S7: of Saint Patrick, Saint Patrick's Day. Who's Saint Patrick? I'll 851 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:22,169 S7: tell you who he is. He's one of the great 852 00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:26,050 S7: heroes of the faith. Born around 385 A.D.. 853 00:46:26,170 --> 00:46:26,650 S3: That's right. 854 00:46:26,690 --> 00:46:31,050 S7: Wrote a book, confessions, and where he articulated the story. 855 00:46:31,050 --> 00:46:35,690 S7: I've put like six, seven quotes with a bulleted life 856 00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:39,450 S7: story of everything you need to know about Saint Patrick today. 857 00:46:39,489 --> 00:46:42,049 S7: And I'm getting some responses on this. People are going, 858 00:46:42,090 --> 00:46:44,930 S7: I never knew this story. This is why we got 859 00:46:44,930 --> 00:46:48,330 S7: to spread the word, guys. So text the word pat 860 00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:55,200 S7: to 800 555 7898. Just the word pat to 800 861 00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:02,360 S7: 555 7898. Going back to the phone lines, grabbing these heroes, Pete. Kenosha, Wisconsin. 862 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,320 S7: What do you say, Pete? 863 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,440 S14: Hey, good morning guys. Uh, the person that comes to 864 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,880 S14: mind for me is Phil Robertson from the Duck Commanders. Yeah. 865 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,360 S14: Before you laugh, that was a man who was a sinful, 866 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,719 S14: sinful person early on in his life, gave his life 867 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,359 S14: to Christ and became an ambassador. Everything he did was 868 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,200 S14: for God and about God, and he wanted that for everyone. 869 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,360 S7: I had him on air here before he went on 870 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,840 S7: to his reward, bro. And was he bringing the heat? Guys, 871 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,080 S7: you remember that interview? 872 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,280 S12: I do remember that interview. Yeah. 873 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,239 S2: He was an incredible man. 874 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,319 S7: Incredible man of God. Way to go, Pete. Appreciate you 875 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,920 S7: mentioning Phil Robertson, Jeanette and Florida. What do you say, Jeanette? 876 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:53,560 S15: Uh, uh, Doctor Barkham, he was instrumental, especially with the homeschool. 877 00:47:53,660 --> 00:47:59,740 S15: and he lived the life. He was such a such 878 00:47:59,780 --> 00:48:03,219 S15: an apologetic for the Lord. And he went home to 879 00:48:03,260 --> 00:48:08,140 S15: be with the Lord last year. And it's just such a. 880 00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:12,100 S15: You know, I believe he left such a dent. Yeah. 881 00:48:12,140 --> 00:48:18,180 S15: When it comes to, uh, being a good apologetic and 882 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:22,219 S15: especially for the, for the home school because he had 883 00:48:22,219 --> 00:48:26,859 S15: about 13 kids and he lived what he, what he ministered. 884 00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:30,180 S7: Yeah. I knew a little bit about that home. Go ahead. Jeanette. 885 00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:34,300 S15: Yeah. Um, not a lot of people know about him, 886 00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:37,060 S15: but if you listen to some of his message when 887 00:48:37,060 --> 00:48:41,100 S15: it comes to the family raising kids. Yeah. And just 888 00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:46,620 S15: for even the modern day, the deception we're facing. He 889 00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:48,580 S15: spoke out boldly. 890 00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:50,580 S7: He did. Jeanette, let me tell you what I want 891 00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:53,690 S7: to speak on. He was one of the clearest gospel 892 00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:57,969 S7: preachers you will ever hear. I can find him online. 893 00:48:57,969 --> 00:49:01,649 S7: YouTube clips, shorts, reels are all over the place. We 894 00:49:01,690 --> 00:49:05,650 S7: are so grateful for this testimony. We've got Elizabeth Elliott 895 00:49:05,650 --> 00:49:11,089 S7: came in here from Newton, Mississippi. We've got others coming in. 896 00:49:11,090 --> 00:49:11,410 S7: We aren't. 897 00:49:11,450 --> 00:49:11,690 S3: Going to. 898 00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:12,050 S12: Be able. 899 00:49:12,530 --> 00:49:16,450 S7: George Mueller was featured here. Wow, what a good thing. 900 00:49:16,450 --> 00:49:20,930 S7: It's a good thing to look at these great men 901 00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:23,169 S7: and women of faith that have gone before us and 902 00:49:23,170 --> 00:49:28,649 S7: reclaim their legacy. Man. It matters. It really does. You 903 00:49:28,650 --> 00:49:31,890 S7: want to learn about Saint Patrick? Text the word pat 904 00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:36,250 S7: right now. I've written in a very short post what 905 00:49:36,250 --> 00:49:38,609 S7: you need to know about Saint Patrick that is not 906 00:49:38,610 --> 00:49:42,730 S7: commonly known about him. It might rock you. Text Pat 907 00:49:42,730 --> 00:49:51,450 S7: to (800) 555-7898 one word. Pat to (800) 555-7898.