WEBVTT - Dear Gary | May

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<v S1>I'm calling with some concerns.

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<v S2>My wife and I had a squabble over me being stupid.

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<v S3>This is a big problem in our culture. I'm having

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<v S3>trouble figuring out what my husband's love language is.

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<v S4>Welcome to building relationships with Doctor Gary Chapman, author of

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<v S4>the New York Times bestseller, The Five Love Languages. Today,

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<v S4>it's our May, Dear Gary broadcast as we feature your

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<v S4>questions to our host.

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<v S5>That's right, Doctor Gary Chapman is in the house and

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<v S5>ready for your questions and comments. And we have a

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<v S5>number that you can call if you want to ask

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<v S5>Doctor Chapman a question. It's 1866424 Gary.

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<v S4>And we have a featured resource at our website Building Relationships.

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<v S4>It's the Five Love Languages of Children workbook bundle, which

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<v S4>includes the book and the workbook. Find out more at

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<v S4>Building Relationships.

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<v S5>All right. You have to tell us more about this

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<v S5>resource and who it's for. Gary, this five Love Languages

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<v S5>of Children workbook bundle.

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<v S6>Actually, Chris, it can be for an individual parent or

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<v S6>a husband or wife doing it together, or it can

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<v S6>be used in a small group. The workbook. What you

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<v S6>basically you're reading the chapter in the in the book,

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<v S6>the original book, the Five Love Languages of children. It's

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<v S6>for parents. And then you turn to this first chapter

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<v S6>of the workbook, and it actually helps you apply what

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<v S6>you've just read in that chapter. And if it's a group,

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<v S6>then you all in the group discuss, you know, your

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<v S6>responses to that in the workbook. So I think it's

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<v S6>going to be a really a good tool. Of course,

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<v S6>the Five Love Languages of Children has been out for

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<v S6>a long time. The workbook is a newer thing that

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<v S6>we've added because we think it's going to help people,

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<v S6>as I said, in small groups, but also just a

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<v S6>husband and wife working through it, or even an individual

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<v S6>parent working through it. So I think it's going to

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<v S6>be an asset to really applying what you're reading as

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<v S6>you work through the book. With The Five Love Languages

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<v S6>of Children.

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<v S5>I love the thought of small groups, though, because you

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<v S5>get parents together and they start talking about, you know,

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<v S5>here's what we're struggling with. And, and parents realize, hey,

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<v S5>we're not alone in this. There are other people who

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<v S5>have the same kinds of situations.

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<v S6>Yeah, absolutely. And that's always encouraging. And it stimulates conversations

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<v S6>after the session is over. You know, you hurt somebody

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<v S6>said something that really helped you and you go have

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<v S6>a conversation with them. So, you know, the Christian life

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<v S6>was meant to be lived in community. So I think

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<v S6>anytime we're doing something in smaller groups where we can

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<v S6>interface with each other and be honest and open, whatever

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<v S6>the topic, uh, it's going to create growth in our lives.

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<v S5>Well, you can find out more about that featured resource

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<v S5>at Building Relationships. It's the five Love Languages of children.

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<v S5>Work book bundle. Just go to building relationships. Okay, Gary.

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<v S5>Our first caller today wanted to remain anonymous, so we

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<v S5>have transcribed her question. And here it is. Gary. Here's

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<v S5>my situation. When my husband and I dated, we both

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<v S5>rode bikes. Now he won't do anything active. He won't

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<v S5>even walk the dog. When I pray at the table,

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<v S5>he says, we don't need to pray every night for

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<v S5>our food. What can I do? I was the one

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<v S5>who always did the devotions with the children, and he

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<v S5>doesn't really talk about his faith at all. Recently, my

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<v S5>son renewed his spiritual life and we've been doing devotions together.

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<v S5>That's a huge blessing and an answered prayer. But I

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<v S5>would like some advice about my husband.

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<v S6>Well, you know, Chris, I'm guessing that a number of

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<v S6>our listeners might identify with this. It's where one person

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<v S6>is walking with God and another is not walking with God.

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<v S6>because anyone who is walking with God will be willing

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<v S6>to share that walk with other people, and especially in

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<v S6>the family. Again, I'd say, first of all, you cannot

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<v S6>make your husband participate with you in daily devotional time.

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<v S6>You cannot make him want to give thanks for the

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<v S6>food when you sit down to eat. You can pray

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<v S6>that God will work in his heart. God may or

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<v S6>may not use you to do that, but that God

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<v S6>would work in his heart by bringing people into his

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<v S6>life who can speak into him or circumstances into his life.

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<v S6>Because sometimes it's circumstances that God uses to shake up

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<v S6>a person who is either not a Christian at all,

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<v S6>or is not really walking in close fellowship with God.

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<v S6>A conversation probably would not hurt for you just to

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<v S6>sit down with him and say, one night, honey, I

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<v S6>want to talk to you about this. I don't know

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<v S6>how you feel, and you just kind of share your heart, but,

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<v S6>you know, I enjoy talking with you. I enjoy having

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<v S6>prayer together. I would like to have devotions together. I

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<v S6>think you know that. And I don't know inside of

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<v S6>you what's going on? Is it that you don't like

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<v S6>God or you don't know God or what? What is

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<v S6>it that has you where you are in this situation?

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<v S6>And I'm not trying to make you do anything because

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<v S6>I can't do that. I'm just sharing with you my

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<v S6>heart and just trying to understand where you are and

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<v S6>what's going on inside of you. As I said, I

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<v S6>don't know that it would hurt to have such a conversation.

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<v S6>It may or may not help, but I don't think

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<v S6>it would hurt because he will walk away and he

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<v S6>may get angry. I don't know, Depending on his personality,

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<v S6>he may get angry with you for even bringing it

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<v S6>up and say, I don't want to talk about it

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<v S6>and da da da da. He can't keep you from

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<v S6>talking to God. And God said, you know, ask for wisdom,

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<v S6>I'll give it to you. So pray that God will

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<v S6>give you wisdom in terms of what you might do,

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<v S6>and that God would bring other people into his life

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<v S6>or situations that would really speak to him deeply. Because

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<v S6>often that's what has to happen. The Apostle Paul's life

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<v S6>was radically changed. He was not an apostle when he

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<v S6>had an encounter with God. And God can bring things

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<v S6>in situations into people's lives today that can wake them

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<v S6>up just as fast and just as meaningfully.

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<v S5>The other part of our question is that he doesn't

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<v S5>exercise anymore. So this one is you mentioned that first,

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<v S5>and it's not as big an issue probably. But you know,

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<v S5>he used we used to ride bikes together. He doesn't

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<v S5>walk the dog now. Uh, and you've said through the

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<v S5>years you can influence your spouse, but you can't control

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<v S5>them and what they do, right?

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<v S6>Yeah, absolutely. Chris. And you know what's behind that behavior?

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<v S6>I don't know. Does he have physical problems? You know,

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<v S6>how old is he? What is his physical condition? Do

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<v S6>any of those things play into the fact that he

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<v S6>doesn't even want to walk the dog or take a

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<v S6>walk himself? And if so, she's concerned about his physical well-being.

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<v S6>Because if we're not active up to the limit that

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<v S6>we can be active, then we're going to deteriorate. The

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<v S6>body will deteriorate. So I understand her concern there. She

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<v S6>might invite him to walk with her if she. If

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<v S6>she'll take a walk and say, honey, would you like

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<v S6>to walk with me? He'll probably say no. But if

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<v S6>you do it on a regular basis, he may decide

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<v S6>to join you. And I don't know if there are

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<v S6>men in his life that might connect with him and

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<v S6>invite him into some men's activities at a church if

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<v S6>you're involved in a church. Because there are lots of

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<v S6>things going on for men in most of our churches.

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<v S6>And some of them are even physical because some churches

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<v S6>have gymnasiums. And they invite men to come and do

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<v S6>workouts and so forth. So all we can do is

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<v S6>expose him to opportunities. But again, as you said, Chris,

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<v S6>we can't make our husbands or wives do anything, but

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<v S6>we can have a positive influence. And that influence is

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<v S6>not nagging them. It's not nagging them, but it is

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<v S6>trying to have meaningful conversations with them and ask what

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<v S6>you might do, or what someone else might do to

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<v S6>help them in a particular area that we'd like to

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<v S6>see improvement.

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<v S5>Well, we love your questions about love languages, and if

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<v S5>you want to call that listener line and give us yours,

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<v S5>we'd love to hear from you today. 866424. Gary, here

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<v S5>is a love language question that is a little bit complicated.

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<v S1>Hi Gary, I'm calling with some concerns. I started doing

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<v S1>your five love languages, and I'm getting really stumped because

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<v S1>my husband is an alcoholic and I'm struggling with trying

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<v S1>to answer the questions faithfully and truthfully. So I was

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<v S1>just wanting if you had some kind of ideas or

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<v S1>tips that might help me, that would be amazing. Thanks. Bye.

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<v S6>Okay, what I understand the caller to say is that

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<v S6>she's taken the free quiz at Five Love Languages, but

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<v S6>she's having trouble even answering the questions, choosing between 2

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<v S6>or 3 things. Let me just throw this out. If

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<v S6>you're trying to discover your own love language or someone

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<v S6>else's love language, there are three informal ways in which

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<v S6>this can be done. One is ask yourself, how do I.

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<v S6>If you want to know your love language, how do

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<v S6>I typically express love to other people? Am I a

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<v S6>gift giver? Am I giving encouraging words, or am I

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<v S6>having long conversations with people? How do I most normally

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<v S6>express love to other people? That's a clue to what

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<v S6>your primary love language is. That is what you want

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<v S6>to receive. And you can ask the same thing about

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<v S6>the other person your husband. For example. How does he

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<v S6>typically express love to you or anybody else? It may

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<v S6>not be your primary language, but he's he's doing something, perhaps.

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<v S6>And then the second is what do you complain about

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<v S6>most often? Or what does he complain about most often?

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<v S6>Complaint reveals the love language. You know, if you're saying

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<v S6>to him, I just feel like we don't ever spend

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<v S6>time together anymore, you're revealing to yourself and to him

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<v S6>that your primary language is quality time. We don't ever

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<v S6>have any time together. Or if you say, you know what?

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<v S6>What really bothers me most is that he won't do

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<v S6>anything with me. He won't do any activities with me. Again,

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<v S6>you're asking for quality time, him doing something with you

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<v S6>that's meaningful. So. And what does he complain about? Most often,

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<v S6>if indeed he complains. And then thirdly, what do you

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<v S6>request of him? Most often, if you're asking him to

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<v S6>help you do something around the house or do something

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<v S6>for you around the house, then acts of service may

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<v S6>be your primary language. If he. What request does he

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<v S6>make of you? So whatever request he's making of you

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<v S6>is a clue to what his primary love language is.

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<v S6>So you answer those three questions for yourself. You can

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<v S6>pretty well figure out what your primary love language is.

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<v S6>And if you ask those same three questions of the

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<v S6>person that you are loving your spouse or someone else

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<v S6>that you have a close relationship with, you can pretty

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<v S6>well determine what their primary love language is.

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<v S5>How does the issue of alcohol cloud things or complicate

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<v S5>it more?

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<v S6>Well, alcohol always clouds all of life. It affects all

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<v S6>of life. I don't know in a particular situation like

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<v S6>this in terms of love language or determining a love language,

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<v S6>how it might affect that. It depends obviously, on, you know,

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<v S6>how often is he under the influence of alcohol and

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<v S6>how does it affect his behavior? Because, uh, let's face it,

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<v S6>a person who's addicted to alcohol is going to have

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<v S6>a lot of problems in relationships, as well as problems

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<v S6>at work and other other things. So it's detrimental to

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<v S6>any relationship. So that's why the Bible is so clear.

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<v S6>Don't get drunk. You know, it's just simple. That's simple

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<v S6>from the Bible. Don't get drunk. No one's life or

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<v S6>marriage was ever helped by somebody getting drunk. And when

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<v S6>people are addicted to it, it's a lifestyle. It's a

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<v S6>lifestyle that destroys. We need to do everything we can

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<v S6>for a person who is an alcoholic, to try to

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<v S6>find help and try to get them to the place

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<v S6>where they're willing to go for help so they can break, really,

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<v S6>the bondage of that addiction.

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<v S5>Well, I mentioned our phone number 866424 Gary just a

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<v S5>minute ago. And if you have a concern about your

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<v S5>marriage or a parenting struggle, maybe you're in a dating

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<v S5>relationship and you have a question or comment, we'd love

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<v S5>to hear from you. 866424 Gary. But on a previous

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<v S5>broadcast I mentioned, I said something like, if you have

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<v S5>a positive story about your marriage, call us. And here

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<v S5>is our first bit of good news right now.

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<v S7>Hey Gary, I wanted to make this comment on the program,

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<v S7>that program topic of what has made one's marriage go

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<v S7>a little better, a little smoother. Oh, I guess 4

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<v S7>or 5, six years ago, my wife and I implemented

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<v S7>a standing date night into our routine. And what that

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<v S7>looks like is one day a week, every Wednesday, we

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<v S7>shut everything down and we, uh, go on a date.

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<v S7>As I said, a standing date. And, uh, my wife

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<v S7>has grown to really look forward to that. I look

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<v S7>forward to that. And, uh, we don't let anything get

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<v S7>in the way of that. Prior to establishing that date night,

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<v S7>you know, things weren't as smooth as they could be. And, uh,

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<v S7>and there were times where we just didn't see eye

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<v S7>to eye and, uh, we let any little things, pop

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<v S7>up and cause us to have a little argument here

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<v S7>or argument there. So it reminds me of the love

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<v S7>language of spending time. Uh, that is definitely my wife's

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<v S7>love language. Spending time. And she really enjoys that. Cherish that.

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<v S7>Thank you.

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<v S6>Well, Chris, as I heard that question, it sounds to

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<v S6>me like I heard waves. I don't know if he

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<v S6>was on the beach when he asked that question. Did

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<v S6>you hear that?

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<v S5>I yeah, it was it sounded like, uh, road noise

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<v S5>to me, but it can, you know, it can be

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<v S5>just like holding a seashell up to your ear. You

0:15:19.860 --> 0:15:21.060
<v S5>can hear that as well.

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<v S6>That's what I heard. I said he must be walking

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<v S6>on the beach. We saw. Well, at any rate, I'm

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<v S6>really glad that he called, because he's sharing a practical

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<v S6>idea that enriched his marriage. And for if quality time

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<v S6>is their language especially, that would be powerful. It would

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<v S6>be very interesting to know some of the things that

0:15:43.010 --> 0:15:46.489
<v S6>they do on their date night. Might give other people ideas.

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<v S6>For some people, a date night is simply going out

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<v S6>for dinner. Uh, well, that's that's fine. But maybe there's

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<v S6>other things that he, he and she have done that

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<v S6>would be helpful to know. But I do think setting

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<v S6>a time in which the two of you do something

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<v S6>together on a regular basis, whether you call it a

0:16:07.450 --> 0:16:09.810
<v S6>date night or it doesn't even have to be night,

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<v S6>it can be a date in the middle of the day,

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<v S6>depending on your schedule in which you do something together

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<v S6>that both of you want to do. A way of

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<v S6>spending time with each other. Because we can get so

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<v S6>busy in the context of daily life, we don't ever

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<v S6>have any quality time with each other in which we're

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<v S6>just giving our attention to each other. We may be

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<v S6>doing something else. We may be riding a bicycle. We

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<v S6>may be, you know, building a habitat for humanity house together,

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<v S6>but just doing something. I do think there's value in

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<v S6>having variety on, on the dates that you have. But yeah,

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<v S6>this is a great idea, and I really appreciate him

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<v S6>sharing that. Many people have discovered what he's discovered the

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<v S6>value of a regular time together.

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<v S5>Two things stand out to me. One, he said he

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<v S5>used the phrase we shut everything down. It's like, yeah,

0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:09.360
<v S5>and and in that he's saying, you are my priority.

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<v S5>Us is the priority here. And everything else shuts down

0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.720
<v S5>because we're going to spend some time together. And so

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<v S5>that's the one thing that I picked up. The second

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<v S5>is it sounds like he gets as much out of

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<v S5>this time together, uh, if not more than she does,

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<v S5>even if quality time is not his love language.

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<v S6>Yes. Quality time does not have to be your primary

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<v S6>love language for you to enjoy time together, doing things together.

0:17:41.430 --> 0:17:44.430
<v S6>You know, that's why the whole thing, when you're falling

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<v S6>in love, what do we do? We date. We call

0:17:46.990 --> 0:17:50.030
<v S6>it date. We get together and give each other our

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<v S6>undivided attention. Doing all kind of things together, growing together.

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<v S6>I don't know why we stopped that when we get married,

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<v S6>but it's something that will enhance a marriage for sure.

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<v S5>Let's keep the positive vibes going. Listen to this next call.

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<v S5>Who has had a big change in his life?

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<v S2>Hi, I am from Indiana and several years ago my

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<v S2>wife and I had a squabble over me being stupid

0:18:20.790 --> 0:18:25.149
<v S2>and she asked me to leave the house, which I did.

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<v S2>And in doing that, I realized the only friend I

0:18:28.790 --> 0:18:32.070
<v S2>had was Jesus Christ. But I had not been living

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<v S2>for Jesus Christ for several years. I got saved when

0:18:35.540 --> 0:18:39.379
<v S2>I was nine, and I hit high school, military and college,

0:18:39.380 --> 0:18:43.340
<v S2>and my life became worldly and that's all I had

0:18:43.340 --> 0:18:48.100
<v S2>was the world. So I started reading books, Gary Smalley,

0:18:48.500 --> 0:18:52.740
<v S2>Chapman and some others. But Chapman's book really got me

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<v S2>thinking about a lot of things. One Friday afternoon, my

0:18:57.100 --> 0:18:59.260
<v S2>wife wanted to talk to me, so my dad came

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<v S2>to work. We went back to my father's house and

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<v S2>we sat and talked and and my wife told me

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<v S2>that unless I changed, I wasn't going to ever come back.

0:19:09.220 --> 0:19:10.980
<v S2>And I said, well, how are you going to know

0:19:10.980 --> 0:19:15.820
<v S2>I changed if you if I'm not around? And she said, well,

0:19:15.820 --> 0:19:19.260
<v S2>that makes sense. She said, so you can come home.

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<v S2>And if I don't see a change in two weeks,

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<v S2>you're out again. So I went home and I did

0:19:24.260 --> 0:19:29.139
<v S2>everything I could to listen and pray about what I

0:19:29.140 --> 0:19:32.580
<v S2>needed to do to be the right husband. Reading books

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<v S2>One Sunday we were going to go to church and, uh, well,

0:19:38.609 --> 0:19:41.609
<v S2>we got a phone call and I answered the phone,

0:19:41.609 --> 0:19:44.890
<v S2>which was a mistake. It was her father, and he

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<v S2>wanted to know why I was there. And I told

0:19:46.890 --> 0:19:48.770
<v S2>him that I live here. And he got angry. So

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<v S2>I gave the phone to my wife, and my wife said,

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<v S2>you know, she did something that changed my life completely.

0:19:55.130 --> 0:19:58.290
<v S2>She said, I need a father and a husband more

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<v S2>than I need a mother and dad. And that just

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<v S2>turned my life around. My wife threw her parents under

0:20:05.330 --> 0:20:08.330
<v S2>the bus for me, and I just realized that how

0:20:08.330 --> 0:20:11.130
<v S2>could I not live for her if she's living for me?

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<v S2>And so I changed. And this week we celebrate 59 years.

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<v S2>God has been number one in our lives. We found

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<v S2>a good church, which we've been in for over 40

0:20:20.770 --> 0:20:24.090
<v S2>something years, and it's just wonderful that your book led

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<v S2>me back to my wife and the Lord. Thank you, Gary,

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<v S2>for writing the book. Thank you for what you do.

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<v S2>God bless you in the future. and talk to you later. Bye.

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<v S6>Well, that is certainly an encouraging call. Chris, when you

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<v S6>hear what God did in a person's life and that

0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:45.560
<v S6>one of my books had a positive impact in that process,

0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.639
<v S6>he may be talking about the five love languages. I

0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.160
<v S6>don't think he called it in particular, but obviously that's

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.880
<v S6>the best known book that I have written. He also

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.920
<v S6>mentioned Gary Smalley, who was a friend of mine, and

0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.840
<v S6>I always enjoyed being with Gary and the books he

0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.679
<v S6>he wrote on marriage. He's in heaven now. Many of

0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:05.399
<v S6>you know that. But the caller demonstrates when you make

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:10.120
<v S6>a choice to change, you have all the help of God.

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<v S6>We can go on our own way, do our own thing,

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.240
<v S6>leave God out of our lives if that's what we

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<v S6>choose to do. But we will never have the kind

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<v S6>of life we really would like to have without God.

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<v S6>Because deep in the human heart, there is a longing

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<v S6>to have a relationship with God. So great to see

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<v S6>God does change lives and the fact they've been together

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<v S6>now 59 years is a testimony. The reality that not

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<v S6>only does God change us in the moment, but God

0:21:42.510 --> 0:21:45.790
<v S6>guides us and we continue to grow because the Christian

0:21:45.790 --> 0:21:49.750
<v S6>life with God is always a growth experience.

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<v S5>I love that 59 years and the question I have is,

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<v S5>did her mom and dad ever come around? Do they

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<v S5>ever see that he really has changed and embraced him?

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<v S5>We we can't know that. The other thing I loved

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<v S5>about what he said was he said the question of

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<v S5>by saying it was me being stupid, which I think

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<v S5>I think a lot of men can understand that. But

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<v S5>but the but there's another aspect to this. It's like

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<v S5>it sounds to me like, uh, the first motivation for

0:22:22.790 --> 0:22:26.630
<v S5>him was my wife said, if you don't change, then

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<v S5>you're not coming back here. And that was a wake

0:22:28.980 --> 0:22:32.140
<v S5>up call for him. But it also sounds like something

0:22:32.140 --> 0:22:35.659
<v S5>else happened in his heart. There was something more than

0:22:35.660 --> 0:22:37.580
<v S5>I just have to toe the line and do what

0:22:37.580 --> 0:22:40.780
<v S5>she wants me to do. At some point there was

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<v S5>an interchange and almost a transformation that that happened. Do

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<v S5>you agree with that?

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<v S6>Yeah, that's that's my guess too, that as he read

0:22:50.820 --> 0:22:54.060
<v S6>my book and other books, God worked in his heart

0:22:54.060 --> 0:22:56.179
<v S6>and he turned to God because he said, you know,

0:22:56.220 --> 0:22:58.740
<v S6>he'd walked his own way, just kind of rule God

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<v S6>out of his life. But I think he let God

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<v S6>back in his life and the books, you know, helped

0:23:03.940 --> 0:23:07.860
<v S6>him with that and gave him practical ways to cooperate

0:23:07.859 --> 0:23:12.700
<v S6>with God in loving your spouse and an attitude of

0:23:12.700 --> 0:23:17.020
<v S6>serving each other. When we get the concept that Jesus

0:23:17.060 --> 0:23:21.060
<v S6>is our model and he said about himself, the Son

0:23:21.060 --> 0:23:24.620
<v S6>of Man did not come to be served, but to serve,

0:23:25.220 --> 0:23:28.090
<v S6>and then give his life a ransom for others. And

0:23:28.090 --> 0:23:31.010
<v S6>when a husband and wife has that attitude of service,

0:23:31.410 --> 0:23:34.330
<v S6>they're both going to become winners. You know, he's reaching

0:23:34.330 --> 0:23:36.810
<v S6>out to her. She's reaching out to him. That's what

0:23:36.810 --> 0:23:40.410
<v S6>marriage is all about. Two are better than one. When

0:23:40.410 --> 0:23:42.609
<v S6>we work together with that attitude.

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<v S5>Maybe there's somebody listening today and they hear themselves in

0:23:47.490 --> 0:23:51.450
<v S5>that call. A husband or wife, you know, maybe being stupid.

0:23:51.490 --> 0:23:54.650
<v S5>And it's like, I want that 59 years together, I

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<v S5>want that. You're saying that there's hope for that couple, right?

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<v S6>Absolutely, Chris. And it has to start with one of them.

0:24:03.570 --> 0:24:06.370
<v S6>It normally doesn't start the same time with both of them,

0:24:06.369 --> 0:24:10.570
<v S6>but someone has to decide. You know, I'm going to

0:24:10.810 --> 0:24:15.170
<v S6>ask God to give me wisdom on how to reach

0:24:15.170 --> 0:24:19.210
<v S6>out to my spouse in love. And ultimately, if they're

0:24:19.210 --> 0:24:22.970
<v S6>not responding. Yeah. Then there is the time to say, uh,

0:24:22.970 --> 0:24:25.290
<v S6>I don't know how you feel, but you appear to

0:24:25.290 --> 0:24:28.680
<v S6>have no interest in our marriage. And so there is

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:32.280
<v S6>a time for tough love. But that tough love should

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.760
<v S6>always come after there's been a stage of tender love.

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.600
<v S6>Loving them even though they don't deserve it.

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<v S5>Gary. Here is a basic, fundamental bedrock question from a

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.470
<v S5>listener that I think is going to help somebody else

0:25:25.470 --> 0:25:26.909
<v S5>who's listening. Here we go.

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<v S8>Hi, Gary. I was calling to find out how I

0:25:32.070 --> 0:25:38.470
<v S8>go about locating therapists or counselor in my area that

0:25:38.470 --> 0:25:44.270
<v S8>deals with my personal needs. That would be great. Thank you.

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<v S6>Well, you know, that's a common question that people ask

0:25:48.350 --> 0:25:52.430
<v S6>if they are not aware of, you know, counselors in

0:25:52.470 --> 0:25:56.790
<v S6>their area. There are several approaches. One would be to

0:25:56.830 --> 0:26:01.670
<v S6>call some of the churches in your area and ask them,

0:26:01.710 --> 0:26:05.910
<v S6>you know, do they know of Christian counselors in your area?

0:26:05.950 --> 0:26:09.710
<v S6>Because many times the pastor and staff members of churches

0:26:10.270 --> 0:26:12.909
<v S6>know who the Christian counselors are, and they would be

0:26:12.910 --> 0:26:16.590
<v S6>glad to refer you to one of them. Locally, that's

0:26:16.590 --> 0:26:19.790
<v S6>probably the best thing you could do is call a

0:26:19.790 --> 0:26:24.740
<v S6>church and ask that question. You can also call focus

0:26:24.740 --> 0:26:28.780
<v S6>on the family in Colorado Springs. You can locate them online.

0:26:28.900 --> 0:26:34.340
<v S6>Just Google focus on the family. They have counselors, some

0:26:34.380 --> 0:26:39.500
<v S6>20 counselors who are available in the daylight hours basically

0:26:40.020 --> 0:26:42.460
<v S6>to talk with you. And they will not do long

0:26:42.500 --> 0:26:47.380
<v S6>term counseling, but they will recommend to you counselors in

0:26:47.380 --> 0:26:50.460
<v S6>your area because they have a list of counselors all

0:26:50.460 --> 0:26:54.940
<v S6>over the country, Christian counselors. And you share your basic problem,

0:26:54.940 --> 0:26:57.820
<v S6>the one you're struggling with, and they will give you

0:26:57.820 --> 0:26:59.900
<v S6>a list of some folks in your area that you

0:26:59.900 --> 0:27:04.419
<v S6>can call. There is another organization called American Association of

0:27:04.420 --> 0:27:10.899
<v S6>Christian Counselors. I think the website is AA dot. I

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<v S6>could be wrong about that. Don't quote me on that one.

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<v S6>But American Association of Christian Counselors, you can Google it.

0:27:17.700 --> 0:27:20.780
<v S6>They also have a list of counselors all over the country.

0:27:21.300 --> 0:27:23.930
<v S6>So you give them your zip code, and they will

0:27:23.930 --> 0:27:27.010
<v S6>give you a list of counselors that you can contact

0:27:27.010 --> 0:27:29.770
<v S6>in your area, and then call them and see if

0:27:29.770 --> 0:27:32.410
<v S6>they work with folks who are having the problem that

0:27:32.410 --> 0:27:33.050
<v S6>you're having.

0:27:33.410 --> 0:27:36.649
<v S5>Yes. He had a guest not long ago who said

0:27:36.970 --> 0:27:40.770
<v S5>that she and her husband were going through a financial struggle,

0:27:40.770 --> 0:27:44.450
<v S5>and they met with the same counselor one on Monday

0:27:44.490 --> 0:27:46.609
<v S5>and the other on Wednesday, and then they got together

0:27:46.609 --> 0:27:49.090
<v S5>on Friday. So it was three times a week. And

0:27:49.090 --> 0:27:52.929
<v S5>she said they used a sliding scale of, you know,

0:27:52.970 --> 0:27:56.210
<v S5>whatever their income was. So they were helping them out

0:27:56.210 --> 0:27:59.570
<v S5>in order to, to help with this marriage struggle, that

0:27:59.570 --> 0:28:02.369
<v S5>they were a deep marriage struggle that they were going through.

0:28:02.570 --> 0:28:06.050
<v S5>And so there are those counselors. There's also in churches,

0:28:06.410 --> 0:28:10.410
<v S5>counseling that is offered free. A lot of times those

0:28:10.410 --> 0:28:13.689
<v S5>are the the bigger churches can can offer that, whereas

0:28:13.690 --> 0:28:16.810
<v S5>the smaller church can't. So I think what you're saying

0:28:16.810 --> 0:28:20.920
<v S5>is there's a lot of different avenues. Don't give up, right?

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:25.840
<v S6>Absolutely. Absolutely, Chris. And what you just mentioned is important

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:30.000
<v S6>that many, many of the larger Christian churches do have

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:34.920
<v S6>pastors or people on their staff or even sometimes volunteers

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:39.080
<v S6>who are counselors or who are coaches, sometimes called coaches,

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.000
<v S6>that that can be very helpful to people who are

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:42.960
<v S6>looking for help.

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.960
<v S5>Well, if you have a question for Doctor Chapman like

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.760
<v S5>that 1866424 Gary, we'd love to hear from you if

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:53.160
<v S5>you have positive response, if you've had, uh, you've been

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.800
<v S5>reading Gary's book and there's something that has happened in

0:28:55.800 --> 0:29:02.760
<v S5>your relationship, let us know about it. (866) 424-4279. Here's a

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.080
<v S5>response to a previous broadcast and the topic we dealt

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:07.760
<v S5>with hit home with her.

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.360
<v S9>Hello. Um, I just want to say I heard your

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:16.640
<v S9>program on addiction. Sexual addiction. I worked in the hospital

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:20.910
<v S9>for 25 years, and this is a big problem in

0:29:20.910 --> 0:29:26.030
<v S9>our culture. And the thing is, we are ignoring it

0:29:26.150 --> 0:29:31.030
<v S9>because they get hooked on it through the culture, accepting it.

0:29:31.390 --> 0:29:34.110
<v S9>They get hooked on it through the internet. They get

0:29:34.150 --> 0:29:39.590
<v S9>hooked on it through the movies. It's saturated in our culture.

0:29:40.070 --> 0:29:43.670
<v S9>The church has been silent because it's embarrassing to have

0:29:43.670 --> 0:29:46.910
<v S9>to deal with it. And I've been thinking about it

0:29:46.910 --> 0:29:48.790
<v S9>for a long time, because I've been out here in

0:29:48.790 --> 0:29:53.950
<v S9>the single world for years, never remarried because of the

0:29:53.950 --> 0:29:59.070
<v S9>problems with sexual freedom. I just thought it wasn't right

0:29:59.070 --> 0:30:03.670
<v S9>that people are accepting it so freely and living together

0:30:03.710 --> 0:30:07.910
<v S9>is nothing. They don't make the real commitment. Sometimes they do,

0:30:07.950 --> 0:30:13.350
<v S9>sometimes they don't. And it's in our culture. It's saturated

0:30:13.350 --> 0:30:17.820
<v S9>in our culture that it is accepted. It, and then

0:30:17.860 --> 0:30:22.260
<v S9>it just escalates to an addiction. And lots of people

0:30:22.540 --> 0:30:25.260
<v S9>can get on the internet and find anything they want

0:30:25.300 --> 0:30:29.620
<v S9>dating everything. And so there's a town near me that

0:30:29.620 --> 0:30:35.460
<v S9>has 300,000 retirees, and they have many, many problems there

0:30:35.500 --> 0:30:43.500
<v S9>with sexual diseases running through the place. And not only that,

0:30:43.900 --> 0:30:46.420
<v S9>I just thought, well, what do we do? What do

0:30:46.420 --> 0:30:50.300
<v S9>we do as Christians, as a culture that we're in?

0:30:50.780 --> 0:30:55.460
<v S9>And I do believe that AA is a great program,

0:30:55.860 --> 0:30:58.740
<v S9>and I wish they had Christ in the program more

0:30:58.940 --> 0:31:04.700
<v S9>so the higher power. But maybe we need on AA

0:31:04.740 --> 0:31:07.220
<v S9>for addictions. I'm sure there is one. I don't even

0:31:07.220 --> 0:31:12.180
<v S9>know about it. Just as a Christian and a believer. Yes,

0:31:12.620 --> 0:31:16.130
<v S9>it is a very embarrassing problem. And thank God that

0:31:16.130 --> 0:31:20.690
<v S9>this woman called in and told you in the world

0:31:20.890 --> 0:31:24.490
<v S9>personally put herself out there to let you know how

0:31:24.490 --> 0:31:28.010
<v S9>bad it is. And I just want to thank you.

0:31:28.010 --> 0:31:32.970
<v S9>I'm not criticizing believers or the church. I'm just saying

0:31:33.330 --> 0:31:37.490
<v S9>it's an issue, a big one. Okay. Thank you so much.

0:31:37.490 --> 0:31:40.610
<v S9>I hope that you keep the program going. I like

0:31:40.650 --> 0:31:43.610
<v S9>the fact that you honestly want to know what people

0:31:43.610 --> 0:31:47.970
<v S9>are thinking. I think it's really good to know what's

0:31:47.970 --> 0:31:51.410
<v S9>going on out here. And I wouldn't have known it

0:31:51.410 --> 0:31:55.290
<v S9>unless I had been thrown into a single world years ago.

0:31:56.050 --> 0:31:57.930
<v S9>Thank you. Have a wonderful day.

0:31:59.010 --> 0:32:02.130
<v S6>Well, Chris, this caller is putting her finger upon a

0:32:02.130 --> 0:32:06.850
<v S6>reality in our culture. And she's right. We often don't

0:32:06.850 --> 0:32:12.690
<v S6>discuss this, but the reality is that Christian guidelines for

0:32:12.690 --> 0:32:18.000
<v S6>sexuality T are largely ignored by millions of people in

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:23.280
<v S6>this country. I mean, the Bible is very clear. Husbands

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:27.760
<v S6>and wives, men and women are committed to each other

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.280
<v S6>in the context of marriage. This is where sexual intercourse

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:36.960
<v S6>is very, very meaningful. Outside of that framework, it is

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.160
<v S6>not what God had in mind. What has happened is

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:44.880
<v S6>many people, she's right, are addicted. This is their God.

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:49.160
<v S6>This is where they find those pleasures along the way

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.719
<v S6>that give them meaning to life. It's the only meaning

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:57.600
<v S6>they have because they have no relationship with God. So yeah,

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.920
<v S6>it certainly needs to be addressed more than it is addressed.

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:05.440
<v S6>And she's right. While there are AA Alcoholics Anonymous, which

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:09.920
<v S6>she talked about, those addicted to alcohol, and there are other, uh,

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:14.750
<v S6>organizations that deal with addiction to alcohol and drugs. You

0:33:14.750 --> 0:33:18.310
<v S6>don't see, and it's not well known in the country

0:33:18.310 --> 0:33:22.910
<v S6>that there's any organization like that for sexual addiction. So

0:33:22.910 --> 0:33:27.310
<v S6>it's a tremendous need. And any counselors out there who

0:33:27.310 --> 0:33:29.670
<v S6>might be listening to us, this is an area that

0:33:29.990 --> 0:33:34.590
<v S6>you might want to seek to discuss this with other leaders,

0:33:34.590 --> 0:33:38.030
<v S6>pastors and leaders in the church as to what can

0:33:38.030 --> 0:33:40.550
<v S6>be done or what maybe is available that we're not

0:33:40.550 --> 0:33:43.710
<v S6>even aware of. That would be helpful. It's an issue

0:33:43.710 --> 0:33:46.750
<v S6>that has to be dealt with. Otherwise, we continue down

0:33:46.750 --> 0:33:52.110
<v S6>this pathway of lives literally being destroyed because they've written

0:33:52.110 --> 0:33:54.630
<v S6>God out of the equation of their lives and are

0:33:54.630 --> 0:33:57.390
<v S6>doing simply what brings them momentary pleasure.

0:33:57.750 --> 0:33:59.630
<v S5>You know, it was interesting to me that she brought

0:33:59.630 --> 0:34:03.190
<v S5>up this place that's near her with a lot of

0:34:03.190 --> 0:34:06.790
<v S5>people there who are older, who are caught in this

0:34:06.790 --> 0:34:09.510
<v S5>same thing. So this is not just the younger generation

0:34:09.510 --> 0:34:12.379
<v S5>and they're not this is everybody, isn't it?

0:34:12.860 --> 0:34:18.420
<v S6>It is, Chris, because we have largely ignored the traditional

0:34:18.460 --> 0:34:24.460
<v S6>biblical teaching on sexuality, and we have allowed any kind

0:34:24.460 --> 0:34:28.740
<v S6>of sexual relationship as being legitimate. And when we do that,

0:34:28.739 --> 0:34:31.020
<v S6>we just open the door for people to be addicted

0:34:31.020 --> 0:34:33.739
<v S6>to it. Because let's face it, the Bible says there

0:34:33.739 --> 0:34:37.379
<v S6>is pleasure in sin for a season. So we're not

0:34:37.380 --> 0:34:40.299
<v S6>denying that there's pleasure in this. But what we are

0:34:40.300 --> 0:34:44.460
<v S6>saying is it does not lead to ultimate satisfaction because

0:34:44.460 --> 0:34:48.660
<v S6>it is a rebellion against God's principles and God's guideline

0:34:48.660 --> 0:34:51.940
<v S6>and everything God laid down for us. He laid it

0:34:51.940 --> 0:34:56.300
<v S6>down out of his love. He knows us. He made us,

0:34:56.620 --> 0:35:00.419
<v S6>and he knows sexuality and everything else about us. And

0:35:00.420 --> 0:35:03.420
<v S6>he gave us guidelines to follow. And when it has

0:35:03.420 --> 0:35:07.339
<v S6>its proper place, it's beautiful. But when we make it

0:35:07.340 --> 0:35:10.219
<v S6>a god, it is a false god.

0:35:11.500 --> 0:35:15.020
<v S5>Gary. Here is a marital love language question that you

0:35:15.020 --> 0:35:17.299
<v S5>may have heard before. See if you can give some

0:35:17.300 --> 0:35:17.940
<v S5>help here.

0:35:19.340 --> 0:35:24.060
<v S10>Hi, Gary. I have a few questions about me and

0:35:24.060 --> 0:35:26.980
<v S10>my husband's relationship. First of all, I just wanted to

0:35:26.980 --> 0:35:29.740
<v S10>say thank you for the work that you have done.

0:35:29.739 --> 0:35:31.980
<v S10>It's been such a blessing. I've read the five love

0:35:31.980 --> 0:35:35.259
<v S10>languages and have been really trying to apply it to

0:35:35.300 --> 0:35:39.020
<v S10>my marriage, but I'm having trouble figuring out what my

0:35:39.020 --> 0:35:43.739
<v S10>husband's love language is. He takes the test and he

0:35:43.739 --> 0:35:46.620
<v S10>seems to get a different result each time he takes

0:35:46.620 --> 0:35:51.260
<v S10>the quiz. And I'm not sure how to really show

0:35:51.260 --> 0:35:54.180
<v S10>him love when I don't know what his love language is,

0:35:54.219 --> 0:35:58.180
<v S10>or in the way that he connects to the most.

0:35:58.300 --> 0:36:01.780
<v S10>So if there's any advice or direction you could offer,

0:36:01.820 --> 0:36:04.260
<v S10>I'd be really grateful. Thank you.

0:36:05.060 --> 0:36:08.300
<v S6>Well, Chris, earlier in a question, I gave those three

0:36:08.450 --> 0:36:14.209
<v S6>informal ways to discover a person's love language. Namely, how

0:36:14.210 --> 0:36:17.330
<v S6>does he most typically express love to you or to

0:36:17.370 --> 0:36:21.730
<v S6>other people? And then what does he complain about most often?

0:36:22.090 --> 0:36:26.010
<v S6>And what does he request most often? Uh, if you

0:36:26.050 --> 0:36:29.569
<v S6>utilize those three things, you can probably figure out his

0:36:29.570 --> 0:36:33.210
<v S6>love language. But I'll give you another practical idea. What

0:36:33.210 --> 0:36:36.930
<v S6>if you say to him every 2 or 3 weeks, uh,

0:36:36.930 --> 0:36:41.529
<v S6>on a scale of 0 to 10, how full is

0:36:41.530 --> 0:36:45.489
<v S6>your love tank? Or how much love do you feel

0:36:45.489 --> 0:36:49.690
<v S6>coming from me? And whatever figure he gives you? Less

0:36:49.690 --> 0:36:54.130
<v S6>than ten, you say? Well, this week, what is the

0:36:54.130 --> 0:36:56.529
<v S6>most powerful thing I could do to show you that

0:36:56.530 --> 0:37:00.370
<v S6>I love you? And chances are, he will tell you

0:37:00.410 --> 0:37:04.250
<v S6>specifically what on that particular week would be most meaningful

0:37:04.250 --> 0:37:08.840
<v S6>to him. And these answers may not always fall into

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:13.120
<v S6>one of the languages, because there are people who who

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:17.280
<v S6>really all five of them speak deeply to them. And

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:21.320
<v S6>normally these fall into two categories. It's either a person

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:25.640
<v S6>who received all five growing up and they've always felt loved.

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.319
<v S6>And so if their spouse is giving them all five

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.600
<v S6>a mixture of all five, they're going to feel loved.

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:35.200
<v S6>The other is people who never felt loved growing up,

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.200
<v S6>and they're not really sure what makes them feel love

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:40.239
<v S6>because they're not even sure what it feels like to

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:44.080
<v S6>feel loved. The question I gave you on a scale

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.640
<v S6>of 0 to 10, how full is your love tank

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.920
<v S6>is a good way of identifying at that moment in

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:55.240
<v S6>that particular week, what would be most important to them?

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.439
<v S5>I've heard you say two, and maybe this is more

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.759
<v S5>with children than a spouse, but one week go with

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:06.310
<v S5>physical touch, the next week you go with quality time

0:38:06.510 --> 0:38:11.030
<v S5>and you observe how they respond to this week after

0:38:11.030 --> 0:38:12.110
<v S5>week after week.

0:38:12.510 --> 0:38:16.870
<v S6>Yeah, yeah, that is another approach because you overdo it

0:38:16.870 --> 0:38:18.910
<v S6>on each one of them. And that week you're really

0:38:18.910 --> 0:38:21.630
<v S6>focusing on that one. And you will notice a difference

0:38:21.630 --> 0:38:24.549
<v S6>in them in the week when you're really hitting their

0:38:24.550 --> 0:38:27.590
<v S6>primary love language. Yeah. Thanks for reminding me of that, Chris.

0:38:28.230 --> 0:38:32.149
<v S5>1866424 Gary is our number. We'd love to hear your

0:38:32.150 --> 0:38:36.590
<v S5>question or your comment about a relationship that has revived.

0:38:36.790 --> 0:38:43.750
<v S5>1-866-424-4279 Gary A few minutes ago we heard about sexual

0:38:43.750 --> 0:38:47.149
<v S5>addiction and what it's doing in the culture. Here's a

0:38:47.190 --> 0:38:49.310
<v S5>real life struggle from a listener.

0:38:50.190 --> 0:38:53.589
<v S11>Hi Gary. First, thank you so much for your work

0:38:53.590 --> 0:38:57.710
<v S11>over the years. My question is, if your husband is

0:38:57.710 --> 0:39:03.230
<v S11>addicted to pornography, will the love languages still be effective?

0:39:04.070 --> 0:39:04.820
<v S11>Thank you.

0:39:05.980 --> 0:39:09.780
<v S6>I think it depends on what the caller means by effective.

0:39:10.739 --> 0:39:15.620
<v S6>If a person is addicted to porn, will knowing their

0:39:15.620 --> 0:39:19.660
<v S6>primary love language and speaking on a regular basis cause

0:39:19.660 --> 0:39:24.140
<v S6>them to turn away from the addiction of porn? I

0:39:24.140 --> 0:39:27.339
<v S6>don't know that that would be true. Just like if

0:39:27.340 --> 0:39:30.859
<v S6>they're addicted to alcohol, I don't know that speaking their

0:39:30.860 --> 0:39:35.420
<v S6>primary love language on a regular basis will cause them

0:39:35.420 --> 0:39:40.380
<v S6>to lay aside or turn away from alcohol, because this

0:39:40.380 --> 0:39:44.460
<v S6>is both of those are addictions, and there has to

0:39:44.500 --> 0:39:48.980
<v S6>be a process of helping that person understand, first of all,

0:39:48.980 --> 0:39:52.140
<v S6>why they need to break the addiction. Because if they're

0:39:52.140 --> 0:39:54.980
<v S6>not motivated themselves to do it, it will not happen.

0:39:55.380 --> 0:39:59.219
<v S6>I do think, however, persons addicted to porn, as the

0:39:59.219 --> 0:40:03.689
<v S6>caller indicated, if you speak their primary love language on

0:40:03.690 --> 0:40:08.089
<v S6>a regular basis over an extended period of time, and

0:40:08.090 --> 0:40:10.930
<v S6>you are aware of what they're doing and they're aware

0:40:10.930 --> 0:40:14.130
<v S6>that this hurts you very deeply. There is a place,

0:40:14.130 --> 0:40:16.970
<v S6>I would say, six months down the road, you speak

0:40:16.969 --> 0:40:19.930
<v S6>their love language for six months at least once a week,

0:40:19.930 --> 0:40:24.250
<v S6>very consistently, and then one day say to them, I

0:40:24.250 --> 0:40:27.850
<v S6>don't know how you feel about our relationship, but I

0:40:27.850 --> 0:40:30.530
<v S6>feel like in the last six months I have loved

0:40:30.530 --> 0:40:33.649
<v S6>you in what I believe is a way that's very

0:40:33.650 --> 0:40:38.450
<v S6>meaningful to you. And I do love you, but you

0:40:38.489 --> 0:40:42.049
<v S6>know how painful it is for me to know that

0:40:42.050 --> 0:40:45.890
<v S6>you are addicted to porn. And I ask you in

0:40:45.890 --> 0:40:49.010
<v S6>the past to make changes, to reach out and get help,

0:40:49.010 --> 0:40:51.890
<v S6>but you have not. So I want to say to you,

0:40:51.890 --> 0:40:54.529
<v S6>I love you too much to sit here and do

0:40:54.530 --> 0:40:59.970
<v S6>nothing about this issue. So and here's the tough love.

0:41:00.010 --> 0:41:02.640
<v S6>Then you tell them what you're going to do. I'm

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.680
<v S6>going to move in with my mom for a month.

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.640
<v S6>I'm not abandoning you. I'm not leaving you. I'm not

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:12.439
<v S6>divorcing you. But I want to challenge you to deal

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.759
<v S6>with this problem because it's not good for you. It's

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.440
<v S6>not good for me. And it doesn't bring glory to God.

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:23.839
<v S6>But the tough love approach will stimulate that spouse often

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:25.920
<v S6>to reach out and get the help they need to

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:30.040
<v S6>break that addiction. But it has to follow after. There's

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.400
<v S6>been a time of tender love over a period of time.

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.879
<v S6>Because if you simply have complained about it numerous times

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.960
<v S6>and then you take the tough love approach, they will

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<v S6>say to themselves, well, I'm glad you're out of here,

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<v S6>and I hope you don't come back because they're tired

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<v S6>of all your criticism. So tender love over an extended

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<v S6>period of time, followed by tough love, is often the

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<v S6>road for them to get the help they need.

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<v S5>You know as well as I do, though, Gary, that

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<v S5>in the culture, pornography is just it's there, it's ubiquitous.

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<v S5>It's everywhere. And it's it's a joke, you know, on comedies,

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<v S5>on TV. It has been a joke for years and

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<v S5>years and years. It's not anything bad. Why are you

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<v S5>why are you so, you know, stuck in the in

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<v S5>the Puritan realm, you know, all of those things. So

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<v S5>unless the person who is addicted sees that it's a problem, it's,

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<v S5>you know, you're swimming upstream, aren't you?

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<v S6>Absolutely, Chris. Absolutely. That's why I say if they are

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<v S6>not open to seek help, then we can't make them change.

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<v S6>It's just like an alcoholic, you know, they often say

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<v S6>I'm not an alcoholic. I mean, I'm I'm in control

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<v S6>of what I'm doing. You know, that's we all we

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<v S6>tend to be defensive of whatever we're doing that the

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<v S6>other person is complaining about. And the other thing would be,

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<v S6>I don't know what her husband's relationship with God is

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<v S6>whether he has a relationship or doesn't have a relationship.

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<v S6>But obviously, his relationship with God will have a lot

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<v S6>to do with whether he's sensitive to this area or

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<v S6>whether he's not.

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<v S5>Would you just take a moment for the the spouse

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<v S5>or the maybe it's a parent who sees this going

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<v S5>on with their kids, uh, an addiction to pornography. Would

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<v S5>you pray for that spouse or that parent who's trying

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<v S5>to love well and is having a hard time?

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<v S6>Sure. Father, you know what we're talking about. And you

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<v S6>know the caller and you know those who are listening today,

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<v S6>who have family members who are caught in this destructive

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<v S6>expression of sexuality. I pray, first of all, that you'd

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<v S6>give them wisdom to know what they might do that

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<v S6>would be helpful to that spouse or that child. And

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<v S6>I pray, father, that your spirit would continue to confront

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<v S6>those individuals who may be listening, who are themselves the

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<v S6>ones who are addicted to pornography. Father, I know you

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<v S6>love them. And I know you want to deliver them

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<v S6>from this. And I know you want them to follow

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<v S6>your guidelines for sexuality. Because you made us and you

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<v S6>made made us sexual. And your purposes and your guidelines

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<v S6>are for our benefit. So I pray that you'd open

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<v S6>the eyes of those who may be listening today, who

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<v S6>are in bondage to this. And give them not only

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<v S6>a desire, but then give them the power to break

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<v S6>the bondage and come back in the real world for

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<v S6>their good and for your glory. In the name of Christ. Amen.

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<v S5>Amen. Well, that is our conversation for today. Thank you

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