WEBVTT - Hour 1: The Battle Lines Are Drawn 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.800 Hi friend, thank you so much for downloading this podcast 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:06.920 and I truly hope you hear something that edifies encourage, equips, enlightens, 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.520 and then gets you out there in the marketplace of ideas. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.440 But before you go, I want to tell you about 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.680 this month's truth tool. It's called Have You Ever Wondered? 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.720 And I absolutely love this topic because if you're like me, 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.600 going out into the night sky and looking up and 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.439 seeing a million stars, don't you just stop and think 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.560 about God? 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Before they get started, let's take a quick 0:02:09.540 --> 0:02:11.740 look back at some of the highlights from the week. 0:02:17.220 --> 0:02:21.340 I is an extremely powerful thing and has enormous capacity 0:02:21.380 --> 0:02:25.780 for both good and evil. But every bit of thought 0:02:25.780 --> 0:02:31.340 in AI is human thought, and AI leverages leverages our thoughts. 0:02:31.340 --> 0:02:33.900 I think in some ways that we don't fully understand yet. 0:02:33.940 --> 0:02:36.940 I mean, it's a very complex matter, but everything in 0:02:36.980 --> 0:02:40.579 there is us. The computer is just is just the instrument. 0:02:40.580 --> 0:02:43.900 It's the tool. We must not let our lives be 0:02:43.900 --> 0:02:47.900 governed by this idea that since God is God and he's. 0:02:47.940 --> 0:02:51.460 He is, uh, good and gracious and generous. He's going 0:02:51.500 --> 0:02:53.139 to do for me whatever he wants to do, whether 0:02:53.139 --> 0:02:56.299 or not I ask. And I just think the answer 0:02:56.300 --> 0:02:59.740 to that is no, he isn't. He has suspended the 0:02:59.780 --> 0:03:03.540 bestowal of his blessings on the petitions and the intercession 0:03:03.540 --> 0:03:06.380 of his people. So I know that's hard for people 0:03:06.380 --> 0:03:08.700 to reconcile, but there's no way to get around the 0:03:08.700 --> 0:03:10.620 clear teaching of Scripture in that regard. 0:03:10.940 --> 0:03:13.019 We never think to pray for the people with talent 0:03:13.020 --> 0:03:15.339 who don't know the Lord. And so I want to 0:03:15.340 --> 0:03:18.900 highlight the names of people who really are incredible talents 0:03:18.940 --> 0:03:22.540 given from God, and ask us to lift them up 0:03:22.540 --> 0:03:25.820 and to let God work through them personally, not just 0:03:25.820 --> 0:03:28.180 with their talent. And so I like to do it 0:03:28.180 --> 0:03:31.860 with people with names of people who really are household 0:03:31.900 --> 0:03:34.300 to a lot of us. And so this is the 0:03:34.300 --> 0:03:36.020 way I don't want to say on here, they need 0:03:36.020 --> 0:03:38.820 Jesus or they're lost or they're bad. I want to say, 0:03:38.820 --> 0:03:41.180 let's appreciate their talent. We know it's from God, and 0:03:41.180 --> 0:03:43.660 let's lift them up so the Lord can do more 0:03:43.660 --> 0:03:44.300 with them. 0:03:44.980 --> 0:03:47.780 Anybody claiming the Bible doesn't have a sexual ethic has 0:03:47.780 --> 0:03:52.940 either not read the Bible or is reading the Bible, um, with, with, uh, 0:03:52.940 --> 0:03:56.930 blindfold Because virtually every book in the New Testament, not 0:03:56.930 --> 0:04:00.130 to mention most of the Old Testament books, mentions and 0:04:00.130 --> 0:04:03.130 condemns sexual sin that right away tells you there is 0:04:03.130 --> 0:04:06.530 such a thing as sexual behavior that is not God's will. 0:04:06.770 --> 0:04:10.410 And the only form of sexual expression that's commended in 0:04:10.410 --> 0:04:15.130 both testaments is a heterosexual covenant union of marriage between 0:04:15.130 --> 0:04:16.450 a man and a woman. 0:04:16.610 --> 0:04:18.890 They don't want to be under Hamas. They don't want 0:04:18.890 --> 0:04:21.210 to be under the Palestinian Authority. They want to be 0:04:21.210 --> 0:04:24.690 under Israel. And so there's going to be a great pushback. 0:04:24.690 --> 0:04:27.010 So what are we just going to force these people 0:04:27.010 --> 0:04:29.570 to do this and it's going to get worse. We're 0:04:29.570 --> 0:04:32.530 going to get worse. It's just going to cause more radicalism. 0:04:32.890 --> 0:04:35.450 So who knows what's going to happen. But it's just 0:04:35.490 --> 0:04:39.530 Israel again is in the vice grip. They just go 0:04:39.529 --> 0:04:43.810 from one crisis to another. And this is a vise grip. 0:04:43.810 --> 0:04:46.130 They've got a date. They've got a time. We're forcing 0:04:46.130 --> 0:04:50.010 a Palestinian state. And whether you like it or not, well, 0:04:50.010 --> 0:04:53.920 what country would undergo Go that and not fight back. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.120 To hear the full interviews from any of those guests, 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.359 go to In the Market with Janet Parshall and click 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.960 on Past Programs. Here's some other stories making headlines this week. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.520 US job growth cooled in May amid uncertainty about President 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.520 Trump's tariffs, according to a closely watched report out Friday 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:14.720 from the Labor Department. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.039 Immigrant communities across the United States are reacting in shock 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.200 to the president's sweeping new travel ban. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.400 Donald Trump and Chinese leader XI Jinping spent over an 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:27.200 hour on the phone Thursday talking trade. The rare leader 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.239 to leader call came after weeks of tensions over tariffs 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:31.760 and critical minerals. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.440 Janet and Craig have lots to share, and they'll put 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.960 the first story on the table when we return. To 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.599 get more information or to download the podcast of any 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.600 of the interviews, go to In the Market with Janet Parshall. 0:05:57.830 --> 0:06:00.470 So many in our culture today are spiritually curious but 0:06:00.510 --> 0:06:03.830 hesitant about religion. That's why I've chosen. Have you ever wondered, 0:06:03.830 --> 0:06:07.390 is this month's truth to explore how everyday experiences might 0:06:07.390 --> 0:06:10.590 be the signpost pointing to deeper biblical truths? As for 0:06:10.589 --> 0:06:12.750 your copy of have you ever wondered when you give 0:06:12.750 --> 0:06:14.790 a gift of any amount to in the market, call 0:06:14.790 --> 0:06:19.550 877 Janet 58. That's 877 Janet 58 or go to 0:06:19.589 --> 0:06:21.029 in the market with Janet Parshall. 0:06:25.670 --> 0:06:31.029 This is London. London calling in the home overseas and 0:06:31.029 --> 0:06:36.750 European services of the BBC and through United Nations radio Mediterranean. 0:06:37.390 --> 0:06:43.990 And this is John Snagge speaking. Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary 0:06:43.990 --> 0:06:48.390 Force have just issued communique number one, and in a 0:06:48.390 --> 0:06:52.630 few seconds I. I will read it to you. Communique 0:06:52.670 --> 0:06:58.470 number one, under the command of General Eisenhower, Allied naval forces, 0:06:58.710 --> 0:07:03.670 supported by strong air forces, began landing Allied armies this 0:07:03.670 --> 0:07:09.870 morning on the northern coast of France. I'll repeat that communique. 0:07:09.990 --> 0:07:15.830 Communique number one. Under the command of General Eisenhower, Allied 0:07:15.830 --> 0:07:22.910 naval forces, supported by strong air forces, began landing Allied 0:07:22.910 --> 0:07:29.950 armies this morning on the northern coast of France. This 0:07:29.950 --> 0:07:34.590 ends the reading of Communique Number one from Supreme Headquarters 0:07:34.870 --> 0:07:36.590 Allied Expeditionary Force. 0:07:37.950 --> 0:07:42.670 And that's what radio sounded like June 6th, 1944. Hello, friends. 0:07:42.670 --> 0:07:44.990 Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. Craig partial 0:07:44.990 --> 0:07:46.870 is with me. And this is where Craig and I 0:07:46.870 --> 0:07:50.940 want to start today because history matters and we need 0:07:50.940 --> 0:07:55.740 to understand who we were, particularly when that great, great 0:07:55.740 --> 0:07:58.300 group of people who fought in World War Two are 0:07:58.300 --> 0:08:01.860 slowly stepping into eternity. Our dads were part of World 0:08:01.860 --> 0:08:06.100 War two. My children's grandparents were part of World War two. 0:08:06.140 --> 0:08:09.020 And with each succeeding generation, we are one tick away 0:08:09.260 --> 0:08:11.340 from trying to understand how in the world do you 0:08:11.340 --> 0:08:14.100 press on, persevere, and hang on to hope when the 0:08:14.100 --> 0:08:17.380 entire world is on fire. So D-Day was in fact 0:08:17.380 --> 0:08:20.740 the name given on the June 6th, 1944 date. It 0:08:20.740 --> 0:08:22.860 was the invasion of the beaches at Normandy. There were 0:08:22.860 --> 0:08:27.059 actually five beaches on that northern coast of France. U.S. troops, 0:08:27.060 --> 0:08:30.220 Canadian troops, UK troops and others during World War II. 0:08:30.260 --> 0:08:33.420 What you just heard was the BBC covering Great Britain. 0:08:33.420 --> 0:08:36.020 You can imagine how they were glued to their radios 0:08:36.020 --> 0:08:39.620 hearing about this assault that was taking place. Remember, it's 0:08:39.620 --> 0:08:42.020 not that far from the southern part of the UK 0:08:42.020 --> 0:08:44.339 to the northern coast of France. You can actually drive 0:08:44.380 --> 0:08:48.370 a tunnel underneath the ocean between those two countries. Now, France, 0:08:48.370 --> 0:08:50.490 at the time, you will recall, was occupied by the 0:08:50.490 --> 0:08:55.330 armies of Nazi Germany and the amphibious amphibious assault. It 0:08:55.330 --> 0:08:59.010 had a codename. It was called Operation Overlord. Landed some 0:08:59.010 --> 0:09:04.130 156,000 Allied soldiers on the beaches of Normandy by the 0:09:04.130 --> 0:09:07.290 end of the day. Now, despite their success, some 4000 0:09:07.330 --> 0:09:10.329 Allied troops were killed by German soldiers defending the beaches. 0:09:10.650 --> 0:09:14.330 And at the time, the D-Day invasion was the largest naval, 0:09:14.330 --> 0:09:17.729 air and land operation in history, and within a few days, 0:09:17.730 --> 0:09:25.569 about 326,000 troops, more than 50,000 vehicles and some 100,000 0:09:25.610 --> 0:09:29.809 tons of equipment had landed. By August of 1944, all 0:09:29.850 --> 0:09:33.170 of northern France had been liberated. In the spring of 1945, 0:09:33.210 --> 0:09:36.370 the allies had defeated the Germans. Historians often referred to 0:09:36.410 --> 0:09:40.850 D-Day as the beginning of the end of World War Two. 0:09:40.890 --> 0:09:43.969 It's very important that we remember what happened that day, 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.559 but it took courage. The same choice to be brave then, 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.680 is the same choice to be brave now. General Dwight 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.280 D Eisenhower was at the time the general for the U.S. forces. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.040 He would later go on to become president of the 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.559 United States. But you can imagine what it would be 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.400 like to give the directive, when so many would end 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.600 up giving all that they had on those beaches of Normandy. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.640 Here's a part of what General Eisenhower said. 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:15.240 Soldiers, sailors and airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force, you 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.720 are about to embark upon the great crusade toward which 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.760 we have striven these many months. The eyes of the 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.439 world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.800 loving people everywhere march with you in company with our 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.560 brave allies and brothers in arms. On other fronts, you 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.360 will bring about the destruction of the German war machine, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.119 the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of Europe, 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.910 and security for ourselves in a free world, your task 0:10:44.910 --> 0:10:48.470 will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, 0:10:48.470 --> 0:10:53.070 well equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely. But 0:10:53.070 --> 0:10:57.110 this is the year 1944. Much has happened since the 0:10:57.110 --> 0:11:02.350 Nazi triumphs of 1940 41. The United Nations have inflicted 0:11:02.350 --> 0:11:07.070 upon the Germans great defeats in open battle. Man to man. 0:11:07.870 --> 0:11:11.470 Our air offensive has seriously reduced their strength in the 0:11:11.470 --> 0:11:14.550 air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. 0:11:15.270 --> 0:11:19.150 Our home fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in 0:11:19.150 --> 0:11:23.030 weapons and munitions of war, and placed at our disposal 0:11:23.070 --> 0:11:27.469 great reserves of trained fighting men. The tide has turned. 0:11:27.990 --> 0:11:31.189 The free men of the world are marching together to victory. 0:11:32.070 --> 0:11:35.190 I have full confidence in your courage, devotion to duty 0:11:35.190 --> 0:11:39.030 and skill in battle. We will accept nothing less than 0:11:39.030 --> 0:11:43.470 full victory. Three. Good luck, and let us all beseech 0:11:43.470 --> 0:11:47.829 the blessing of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking. 0:11:48.790 --> 0:11:53.350 The roughly 160,000 allied troops who landed in Nazi occupied 0:11:53.350 --> 0:11:59.030 France on June 4th. June 6th, 1944. Not only successfully 0:11:59.030 --> 0:12:02.910 executed the largest air, land, and sea invasion in history, 0:12:02.910 --> 0:12:05.670 and that remains to this day. They did so amid 0:12:05.670 --> 0:12:09.630 daunting obstacles, terrible bloodshed and stakes that couldn't have been higher. 0:12:09.870 --> 0:12:13.670 Dwight D Eisenhower said, we will accept nothing less than 0:12:13.670 --> 0:12:17.710 full victory, and victory in this battle was far from 0:12:17.710 --> 0:12:20.550 certain in the first hours of that day. Out of 0:12:20.590 --> 0:12:25.350 that day came the saying, all gave some, some gave all. 0:12:25.470 --> 0:12:28.270 When Steven Spielberg made his movie Saving Private Ryan, it 0:12:28.270 --> 0:12:31.350 opens with 22 minutes of action of the landing on 0:12:31.350 --> 0:12:34.309 the beaches. There's not a single word of dialogue spoken. 0:12:34.630 --> 0:12:36.990 And history records that there were several World War Two 0:12:37.030 --> 0:12:39.500 vets who, in the opening of that film, found it 0:12:39.500 --> 0:12:42.500 so realistic they literally had to walk out of the theater. 0:12:42.700 --> 0:12:45.380 We cannot forget their sacrifice. It's easy to do that, 0:12:45.380 --> 0:12:49.900 particularly with each continuous generation. But Craig, it's imperative that 0:12:49.900 --> 0:12:52.780 we remember. I look at America now, and I look 0:12:52.780 --> 0:12:57.059 at our animus and our our slothfulness and our licentiousness, 0:12:57.059 --> 0:12:59.380 and I think to myself, do we still have that 0:12:59.380 --> 0:13:02.060 same character? Do we still have that same courage? Could 0:13:02.059 --> 0:13:04.860 you get out of that first boat that hit Omaha 0:13:04.900 --> 0:13:07.179 Beach as one of the five beaches as an example, 0:13:07.380 --> 0:13:09.380 and you see the bullets the way the Germans were 0:13:09.380 --> 0:13:10.980 bunkered up at the top of the hill. So you 0:13:10.980 --> 0:13:13.620 talk about, from a military perspective, they had clear aim 0:13:13.620 --> 0:13:16.020 right down at those soldiers who hit the beach. And 0:13:16.020 --> 0:13:17.740 the footage, by the way, which you can find black 0:13:17.740 --> 0:13:20.500 and white, some of it colorized, is horrific because in 0:13:20.500 --> 0:13:23.580 very short order, the waters were filled with the bodies 0:13:23.580 --> 0:13:25.860 of our troops. Who gave their all your thoughts? 0:13:25.940 --> 0:13:29.500 Yeah, we think so much, and rightly so, of the 0:13:29.500 --> 0:13:34.260 landing crafts that had to wade in to a storm 0:13:34.260 --> 0:13:38.570 of bullets coming their way. But also we had the 0:13:38.570 --> 0:13:42.690 Army Air Corps as an example, uh, trying to protect 0:13:42.690 --> 0:13:47.569 them and and soften up the Nazi defenses, uh, along 0:13:47.570 --> 0:13:52.650 that coast. I read one account, uh, where a gentleman 0:13:52.650 --> 0:13:55.809 who is now 106 years old and was at, uh, 0:13:56.690 --> 0:13:59.689 as part of the attack on, uh, in the landing 0:13:59.690 --> 0:14:01.810 in Normandy, he was with the Air Corps, and he 0:14:01.809 --> 0:14:05.209 was a repairman for those pilots and for those airplanes 0:14:05.210 --> 0:14:07.850 for the Army Air Corps. He said half of the 0:14:07.850 --> 0:14:13.330 pilots in his one company lost their lives on D-Day, 0:14:13.370 --> 0:14:17.089 trying to protect those on those landing crafts. So as 0:14:17.130 --> 0:14:22.770 of now, we may think, well, was victory uh, shortly after, actually, 0:14:22.770 --> 0:14:26.650 it took 11 months after that, before V-E day, victory 0:14:26.650 --> 0:14:31.610 in Europe. But every historian of that war recognizes this, 0:14:31.650 --> 0:14:36.479 and that is it created the way forward to achieve victory. 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.800 Had we not done that, had those men and women 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:47.760 given their last sacrifice, the most important sacrifice for freedom? 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:53.400 In that storm of of defense that the Nazis raised, 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.240 then it could have been several years. It could have 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:01.680 been a non-victory, considering some of the weaponry that Nazi 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.040 Germany was experimenting with at the time. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:05.880 And, you know, it was a high risk decision, wasn't it? 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.520 Operation Overlord, you find it very interesting that that was 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.560 the code name that they gave for it. But you 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.960 rightfully pointed out that it takes almost a year before 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.000 you can claim victory. But here's what is so significant 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.920 about that day. And it has it tells me. And 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.280 Eisenhower was a man of faith, by the way, but 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:23.600 tells me that they had to do a lot of 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.360 soul searching before they knew they were going to send 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.760 so many people into harm's way. But by being on 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.920 that beach, it established a new major front against the 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.080 Germans in the West, and it helped the Soviet forces 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.830 facing the bulk of German troops in the east. And 0:15:35.830 --> 0:15:38.910 that's why, less than a year later, Germany was forced 0:15:38.910 --> 0:15:41.670 to surrender. You wonder what would have happened if there 0:15:41.670 --> 0:15:46.190 had not been a D-Day, June 6th, 1944. If so 0:15:46.190 --> 0:15:49.430 many weren't willing to go into harm's way for the 0:15:49.430 --> 0:15:52.230 sake of something greater than themselves. And again, I just 0:15:52.230 --> 0:15:56.310 keep asking myself the question today, when we're in a post-truth, post-modern, 0:15:56.310 --> 0:15:59.190 post-Christian era, do we still have the same strength of 0:15:59.190 --> 0:16:03.510 character if called upon today? Could we still have some 0:16:03.510 --> 0:16:06.430 who gave all but some, some who gave all and 0:16:06.430 --> 0:16:07.510 all who give some? 0:16:07.550 --> 0:16:12.590 Yeah. We also have to remember that there were, uh, climactic, uh, 0:16:12.590 --> 0:16:16.070 and I don't mean, uh, dramatic, but I mean the 0:16:16.070 --> 0:16:21.670 climate and the weather point in that landing, uh, the, 0:16:21.870 --> 0:16:25.830 the planning team behind the invasion and the timing of 0:16:25.830 --> 0:16:30.550 it had to take into consideration what the weather factors were, uh, 0:16:30.550 --> 0:16:35.110 and it, uh, You knew at some point that it 0:16:35.110 --> 0:16:37.369 was going to be between the fifth and the 7th 0:16:37.370 --> 0:16:41.230 of June, but that was depending on weather. And, of course, 0:16:41.230 --> 0:16:47.990 weather is beyond human control. Yes, but we know in whom, uh, that, uh, 0:16:48.350 --> 0:16:53.510 atmospheric and weather condition lies. Uh, we we cannot forget 0:16:53.510 --> 0:16:57.510 the providential hand of God and the prayers, even, uh, 0:16:57.630 --> 0:17:02.270 and most importantly, from General Eisenhower himself, uh, asking for 0:17:02.270 --> 0:17:08.070 God's providential care and support in winning that war against 0:17:08.109 --> 0:17:13.070 absolute abject evil. And there's no way to counter to 0:17:13.109 --> 0:17:16.110 characterize it other than that it was a battle of 0:17:16.109 --> 0:17:16.870 good and evil. 0:17:17.270 --> 0:17:19.910 Every Memorial Day weekend, we have a concert that's held 0:17:19.910 --> 0:17:22.270 in front of the U.S. Capitol. It's called the Memorial 0:17:22.310 --> 0:17:25.469 Day Concert. And every year we honor those who have served. 0:17:25.470 --> 0:17:28.470 This year, there were several members who did fight on 0:17:28.510 --> 0:17:32.460 that day in 1944, all of them very aged, all 0:17:32.460 --> 0:17:35.139 of them very proud, all of them keenly aware of 0:17:35.140 --> 0:17:38.619 the sacrifice their brothers made on the beaches at Normandy. 0:17:38.660 --> 0:17:42.379 May we never forget and always remember their courage. That's 0:17:42.380 --> 0:17:54.020 the legacy they left for us back after this. I 0:17:54.060 --> 0:17:57.100 shared yesterday that on today's edition of In the Market 0:17:57.100 --> 0:17:59.460 with Janet Parshall, knowing that Craig would be with us 0:17:59.460 --> 0:18:02.780 and his background as a constitutional attorney, that we would 0:18:02.780 --> 0:18:05.899 break down two significant cases that were handed down by 0:18:05.900 --> 0:18:07.979 the U.S. Supreme Court yesterday. There were more than two 0:18:08.020 --> 0:18:10.140 that were handed down, but two in particular. We're going 0:18:10.140 --> 0:18:13.700 to highlight both of them a 9 to 0 decision. Now, 0:18:13.700 --> 0:18:16.580 there are only nine justices that sit at the High Court. 0:18:16.580 --> 0:18:20.260 So that's pretty rare. But it also really solidly affirms 0:18:20.260 --> 0:18:23.020 the outcome of the particular case, by the way. Let 0:18:23.020 --> 0:18:25.100 the record reflect, Your Honor, that this is the merry 0:18:25.100 --> 0:18:28.100 month of June and the and the term ends at 0:18:28.100 --> 0:18:30.370 the end of the month. We're still waiting for some 0:18:30.369 --> 0:18:34.410 very important decisions, including one called Skrmetti, and that could 0:18:34.410 --> 0:18:36.730 come down any time. And that will deal with a 0:18:36.730 --> 0:18:41.650 whole myriad of issues of free speech, exercise of religion, transgenderism. 0:18:41.650 --> 0:18:43.530 So it's going to be one of those hot button ones. 0:18:43.530 --> 0:18:46.090 I guess the hotter they are, the later in the 0:18:46.090 --> 0:18:47.690 month they get handed down. But you can bet Craig 0:18:47.690 --> 0:18:49.010 and I will be on top of that and we'll 0:18:49.010 --> 0:18:51.090 share when they come out. But as for now, let 0:18:51.090 --> 0:18:55.290 me start first with one. And in a unanimous decision yesterday, 0:18:55.290 --> 0:18:57.690 the Supreme Court upheld the claims of a woman who 0:18:57.690 --> 0:19:02.570 faced workplace discrimination because of her majority group identity and 0:19:02.570 --> 0:19:04.530 in this case, what was her majority group. She was 0:19:04.530 --> 0:19:07.729 a heterosexual. So the decision upholds the rights of a 0:19:07.730 --> 0:19:11.370 majority group, individuals, to be free from reverse discrimination. I 0:19:11.369 --> 0:19:13.850 find that to be a sloppy word anyway. Discrimination is 0:19:13.850 --> 0:19:17.530 discrimination when it comes in any way, shape or form. Uh, 0:19:17.530 --> 0:19:20.369 but but the part of this that's so significant is 0:19:20.369 --> 0:19:23.570 that it was considered about the protection provided us under 0:19:23.570 --> 0:19:26.879 title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. For 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.600 Justice Jackson delivered the opinion. Justice Thomas delivered a concurring 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.280 opinion and that was joined by Justice Gorsuch as well. So, Craig, 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.400 give the background on the facts of this case and 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.359 why this was significant. And again, you don't have this 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.960 kind of unanimity that often in Washington. I always jump 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:44.760 up and down and wave the flagpole when it happens. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.400 So you get a nine zip. That means there must 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.200 have been some real clarity in the law on this one. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:49.040 Talk to me about it. 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:53.040 Yeah. The the person who brought this lawsuit originally, um, 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:57.919 in the case called Ames versus Ohio Department of Youth Services, uh, 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.840 the plaintiff was Marlene Ames, and she's, as you said, 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.160 was a heterosexual woman. Uh, she worked for the Department 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.840 of Youth Services, uh, for a number of years. In fact, uh, 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:14.520 started around 2004. So she had been there until, uh, 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.560 the episode that led to the lawsuit, which is 2019. 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.720 So she was there for 15 years. She was a 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:25.800 veteran of that agency, uh, apparently highly qualified. And she 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:29.120 applied for a new management position that was open. And 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.200 as you know, in government agencies, they they will make 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:37.000 public postings of, uh, promotional opportunities. And she applied for that, 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.640 but she was turned down and she was replaced in 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:44.160 that position, which she was qualified for by another candidate 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:48.840 who was a lesbian. Um, so, uh, based on some 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:52.000 of the fact finding that she and her attorney made, uh, 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.960 by the way, they subsequently later on, they demoted her 0:20:56.119 --> 0:21:00.800 from her role as a program administrator. Um, and later 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.560 hired a gay man to fill that role. So, in 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.320 other words, not only does she not get the promotion, 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.440 but then she was demoted and replaced in her regular 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.520 position that she had been at for some 15 years. Um, 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:18.640 by by a gay person. So twice she was discriminated against, 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:23.280 according to her lawsuit by, uh, a minority group, which is, uh, 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.510 you know, a gay woman and a gay man. Um, 0:21:26.510 --> 0:21:29.389 but here's here's the issue. Here's the legal issue. The 0:21:29.390 --> 0:21:32.590 legal issue is title VII of the Civil Rights Act 0:21:32.630 --> 0:21:37.389 says that if you are discriminated against in employment, and 0:21:37.390 --> 0:21:41.190 that's what title VII deals with, is discrimination in employment 0:21:41.470 --> 0:21:48.629 based on protected categories such as race or religion or sex. 0:21:49.869 --> 0:21:52.750 Then you have a claim and you can bring your 0:21:52.750 --> 0:21:54.590 claim if you can prove that in fact, it was 0:21:54.590 --> 0:21:57.510 done intentionally and not accidentally or for some other reasons, 0:21:57.510 --> 0:22:01.550 like poor performance on the part of the employee. Uh, 0:22:01.550 --> 0:22:04.830 but what has happened over the years, because, of course, 0:22:04.830 --> 0:22:07.470 1967 was the beginning of the Civil Rights Act and 0:22:07.470 --> 0:22:11.070 a lot of lower court decisions trying to interpret, well, 0:22:11.070 --> 0:22:15.310 what happens in a reverse discrimination case where, let's say 0:22:15.310 --> 0:22:20.590 a majority group, uh, is so-called discriminated against by a 0:22:20.590 --> 0:22:24.540 minority group, uh, in who are in charge of that 0:22:24.540 --> 0:22:28.300 particular place of employment. So they have this rule. And 0:22:28.300 --> 0:22:31.180 the Sixth Circuit, U.S. Court of Appeals had followed their 0:22:31.180 --> 0:22:35.379 own created rule. It's not in the text that Congress passed. 0:22:35.900 --> 0:22:39.700 It's the legal rule generated by the courts, the lower 0:22:39.700 --> 0:22:43.460 courts saying this if you're in a majority opinion or 0:22:43.460 --> 0:22:47.980 in a majority category, like let's say a heterosexual, um, 0:22:49.500 --> 0:22:52.540 then you have a higher burden of proof. You don't 0:22:52.540 --> 0:22:56.420 have an equal opportunity for proving your case. You actually 0:22:56.420 --> 0:22:59.379 have a higher level of proof. You have to show 0:22:59.420 --> 0:23:03.500 additional background information to show why you fit into the 0:23:03.540 --> 0:23:07.020 very unusual, in the words of the court category of 0:23:07.020 --> 0:23:10.900 reverse discrimination against majority group. Here's what the Supreme Court 0:23:10.900 --> 0:23:15.740 all nine justices, regardless of what their jurisprudential philosophy is, left, 0:23:15.740 --> 0:23:18.980 middle or right. Every one of them said, wait a minute, 0:23:19.260 --> 0:23:24.369 the text. of the law is what should be binding here. 0:23:24.369 --> 0:23:28.290 And there's no such test. It says if you're discriminated 0:23:28.290 --> 0:23:32.850 against based on sex or religion or race, regardless of 0:23:32.850 --> 0:23:36.210 whether you're a majority or minority, it's an it should 0:23:36.210 --> 0:23:39.690 be an equal outcome. It should be an equal application 0:23:39.690 --> 0:23:43.370 of justice. But the Sixth Circuit said no. Supreme court 0:23:43.369 --> 0:23:47.649 said no. Go back and wipe that extra rule off 0:23:47.650 --> 0:23:53.970 the books. The the law itself doesn't apply. Any additional proof, 0:23:54.290 --> 0:23:58.090 any additional evidentiary, uh, proof that you have to bring 0:23:58.130 --> 0:24:01.810 as a majority, uh, rather than a minority. But there's 0:24:01.810 --> 0:24:05.650 a bigger implication for this. And it's how much power 0:24:05.650 --> 0:24:08.490 do federal judges have to make it up as they 0:24:08.490 --> 0:24:11.889 go along in terms of inventing rules that aren't there 0:24:11.890 --> 0:24:14.770 in the congressional statute they're supposed to interpret? 0:24:14.810 --> 0:24:17.570 Well, to that point, I think there's many layers to 0:24:17.609 --> 0:24:20.000 this decision. And I'm so thankful that you talked about 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.919 the legal perspective. There's a cultural application to this as well. 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.200 And I do also want to talk about another 9 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.080 to 0 decision handed down yesterday. This one deals specifically 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.719 with religious liberty. These are important cases by the way. 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.640 And again just let the record reflect it's June. This 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.040 is when now all the ones where they've heard oral arguments, 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.440 almost every one of them will have a written and 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.840 decision made by the High Court that will be handed 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:43.280 out by the end of the term, which is the 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.760 end of this month. So for the next couple of weeks, 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.719 it's going to be a legal heyday. We'll keep you 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:56.200 posted more after this. Jesus told us to go into 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:57.840 the world and not run away from it, and he 0:24:57.840 --> 0:24:59.680 didn't say it would be easy. In the market with 0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:02.000 Janet Parshall is a program designed to come alongside and 0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:04.920 walk with you into the marketplace of ideas. Partial partners 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:06.840 are those friends who support our program on a regular 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.920 monthly basis. They know the mandate of influencing and occupying 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.199 until he comes. So why don't you become part of 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:16.000 the inner circle of support? Call 877 Janet 58 or 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:21.040 go to in the market with Janet Parshall. This is 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.160 in the market with Janet Parshall. Craig partial is with 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:24.879 me as he is on Fridays, where we put on 0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:26.480 the lens of Scripture and take a look at the 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.320 world around us. Two important cases handed down by the 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.400 US Supreme Court yesterday that you and I should know 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.320 about both of them, 9 to 0. So that's significant 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.160 and solid. And the first one dealt with whether or 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:40.280 not there is such a thing as reverse discrimination. And 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:43.080 it all involves a woman who was working in Ohio 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.120 who not once but twice was passed over for her 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.879 majority position. She was a heterosexual and given to a 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.920 member of the LGBTQ community. So it raises the question about, 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:57.080 is there such a thing under that title? Seven protection 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.200 of the Civil Rights Act of 64. Is there such 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.400 a thing as protection from, quote, reverse discrimination? Now, let 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.200 me repeat myself. I happen to find the words cryptic discrimination, 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.239 particularly for a believer, is discrimination. It's not reverse. I 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.120 understand its application in the law, but to me it's 0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:15.910 it's repeating yourself. Discrimination is discrimination. So the court to nine. 0:26:15.950 --> 0:26:19.310 ZIP says, no, absolutely not. And I also take umbrage 0:26:19.310 --> 0:26:22.750 with categorizing somebody in a, quote, majority opinion. But here's 0:26:22.750 --> 0:26:24.750 something that I thought about, Craig, you started out talking 0:26:24.750 --> 0:26:28.270 about the legal application of this decision. I think there's 0:26:28.270 --> 0:26:31.350 a cultural application that cannot be ignored. I think this 0:26:31.350 --> 0:26:34.750 was a very sharp finger in the eye of die. 0:26:35.109 --> 0:26:38.670 When you want to talk about diversity, equity and inclusion, 0:26:38.670 --> 0:26:42.150 and you're hiring people based on what their skin color 0:26:42.150 --> 0:26:46.710 is or what their sexual orientation is, you are practicing 0:26:46.710 --> 0:26:50.750 just by the application of that, a form of reverse discrimination. 0:26:50.750 --> 0:26:54.270 So I'm wondering, even if it wasn't addressed directly in 0:26:54.270 --> 0:26:56.510 the decision, and we talked about three who wrote on it, 0:26:56.550 --> 0:27:00.470 Brown delivers it. Thomas concurs, and Gorsuch writes an opinion 0:27:00.470 --> 0:27:03.190 along with the concurrence by Thomas. I'm wondering if that 0:27:03.190 --> 0:27:05.669 will take some of the wind out of the application 0:27:05.670 --> 0:27:08.989 of die, knowing that because of this ruling, now you 0:27:08.990 --> 0:27:09.909 have to be careful. 0:27:09.950 --> 0:27:14.260 Yeah, really, if you kind of go to 1000 foot 0:27:14.900 --> 0:27:19.340 perspective on this. It really involves the question is the 0:27:19.340 --> 0:27:24.540 ground upon which the Constitution is based level ground for everybody, 0:27:24.820 --> 0:27:28.140 or are some groups going to get super preference under 0:27:28.140 --> 0:27:30.740 the Constitution? Well, the answer should be no. The same 0:27:30.740 --> 0:27:34.180 thing with title VII or any act passed by Congress. 0:27:34.180 --> 0:27:39.540 Because of course, Congress has to abide by the Constitution 0:27:39.820 --> 0:27:42.260 in the laws that they create. Because if it becomes 0:27:42.260 --> 0:27:46.420 an unconstitutional statute that Congress passes, the Supreme Court ultimately 0:27:46.420 --> 0:27:48.939 will knock it down. They will send it back and say, 0:27:49.220 --> 0:27:54.540 start it again. Try another version, because this one's unconstitutional. Likewise, 0:27:54.540 --> 0:28:01.860 if title seven, which involves discrimination against, you know, classic 0:28:02.340 --> 0:28:07.900 categories of protection like race, sex or religion, uh, if 0:28:07.940 --> 0:28:12.290 the if the landscape underneath those principles in that statute 0:28:12.290 --> 0:28:15.890 are not even they're not equal, then in fact, we 0:28:15.890 --> 0:28:20.930 have unequal application of justice. And that's unconstitutional no matter 0:28:20.930 --> 0:28:24.050 which way you look at it. So discrimination, as you said, 0:28:24.050 --> 0:28:28.170 is discrimination regardless of whether you're a, quote, majority group, 0:28:28.170 --> 0:28:31.929 let's say white employees with three Asians in it, the 0:28:31.930 --> 0:28:34.810 Asians are in a minority position in that company. But 0:28:34.850 --> 0:28:38.130 as Justice Thomas, in his concurrence, by the way, when 0:28:38.130 --> 0:28:42.650 the Supreme Court, um, arrives at a unanimous decision, justices 0:28:42.650 --> 0:28:46.290 can still agree with it but have concurring opinions to 0:28:47.250 --> 0:28:48.450 add some additional. 0:28:48.490 --> 0:28:48.770 Further. 0:28:48.770 --> 0:28:54.210 Background and context to other concerns they have that really 0:28:54.210 --> 0:28:58.690 gave their vote in favor of the unanimity of the decision. 0:28:58.690 --> 0:29:01.770 Justice Thomas made the point of saying, look, how do 0:29:01.770 --> 0:29:05.770 you categorize majority in some states in the union, there 0:29:05.810 --> 0:29:09.730 are actually numerically slightly more women than men. So are 0:29:09.730 --> 0:29:12.890 men a minority? And then if you look at religion, 0:29:13.250 --> 0:29:17.170 are you talking majority religions versus minority religions? There are 0:29:17.170 --> 0:29:20.690 some communities where other religions are a majority and they're 0:29:20.690 --> 0:29:22.810 not Christian. So how do you divide that pie up? 0:29:23.170 --> 0:29:25.770 That's a dangerous precedent to start. Let me continue with 0:29:25.770 --> 0:29:28.130 Thomas because I thought his observation was brilliant. He wrote, 0:29:28.130 --> 0:29:31.730 in his opinion, to highlight the problems that arise when 0:29:31.730 --> 0:29:36.130 judges create a textual legal rules and frameworks that becomes 0:29:36.130 --> 0:29:39.090 a problem. And he calls the rule, quote, a product 0:29:39.090 --> 0:29:43.330 of improper judicial lawmaking. Now, that's tongue in cheek because 0:29:43.370 --> 0:29:46.450 judges don't make laws. And what he's saying is the 0:29:46.450 --> 0:29:49.650 Sixth Circuit, basically Ex Nihilo, came up with a standard 0:29:49.650 --> 0:29:51.770 that doesn't exist. And I found it interesting that, in 0:29:51.770 --> 0:29:55.330 her opinion, Justice Brown also said there's nothing in the 0:29:55.330 --> 0:29:57.610 text that says that you've got this higher standard that 0:29:57.610 --> 0:29:59.370 has to be applied to someone who's in a majority 0:29:59.410 --> 0:30:03.290 category as opposed to minority. So I think that's extremely important. 0:30:03.290 --> 0:30:07.010 And I think, like I said, with the conversation that's 0:30:07.010 --> 0:30:11.040 been going on non-stop in this country about die. This decision, 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:15.000 I think, offers a clarity that says you can try, 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.720 but if you really do hiring and there isn't. For example, 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.680 under title seven of the 64 Civil Rights Act, you've 0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:24.800 done a Passover and you have discriminated against. This is 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:25.720 going to be the consequence. 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.800 Yeah. And in a broader sense, you know, I've always 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.280 taken the position and I still hold to it because 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.520 I think there's some truth in it that when courts 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:37.160 all the way up to the US Supreme Court release 0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.760 an opinion and they render an opinion in a given case, 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.000 they do really two things. The most important thing and 0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:49.440 the constitutional thing in the, uh, the article three of 0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:53.120 the Constitution thing is that they are acting as judiciary, 0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.920 as a separate branch of government that says what the 0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.040 law is. They don't write the law. They simply interpret 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.440 what the law is as written. And if Congress intended 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.720 something else, then the Supreme Court says, you better rewrite it, 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.870 because we're just going on the text. So the job 0:31:09.870 --> 0:31:13.910 of the court is to interpret, not to write. Uh, 0:31:14.310 --> 0:31:16.830 and in this case, the Sixth Circuit and a number 0:31:16.830 --> 0:31:21.830 of other circuits devised these rules because it made it 0:31:21.830 --> 0:31:25.350 easier for them to say, we're doing the right thing 0:31:25.350 --> 0:31:29.590 here in a discrimination case, but it's not the judge's rule, uh, 0:31:29.950 --> 0:31:33.030 authority to say, what is the better thing to do? 0:31:33.230 --> 0:31:36.270 That's for Congress to do. That's why we elect them 0:31:36.270 --> 0:31:40.670 to Congress to do the right thing by their constituency. Rather, 0:31:40.670 --> 0:31:45.030 the judges simply say title VII doesn't say that. And 0:31:45.030 --> 0:31:48.310 if Congress wants to rewrite it and add some additional 0:31:48.350 --> 0:31:51.950 burdens on majority groups, we'll review that when the time comes, 0:31:51.950 --> 0:31:52.750 but not now. 0:31:52.790 --> 0:31:54.790 Scalia was famous for saying just that if you don't 0:31:54.790 --> 0:31:56.830 like the law, come back with different laws. But we 0:31:56.830 --> 0:31:58.950 don't make the laws. So let's turn our attention to 0:31:58.990 --> 0:32:01.590 the other case, another nine zero decision that was handed 0:32:01.590 --> 0:32:05.500 down yesterday, this one, the Catholic Charities Bureau. Uh v 0:32:05.500 --> 0:32:09.940 Wisconsin Labor and Industry Review Commission. That's long, cumbersome title, 0:32:09.980 --> 0:32:12.180 but this is an important case dealing with religious liberty. 0:32:12.180 --> 0:32:13.220 What are the facts, Greg? 0:32:13.260 --> 0:32:16.860 Yeah, this was very troublesome. I remember you and I 0:32:16.900 --> 0:32:17.940 discussing this case. 0:32:17.980 --> 0:32:18.260 On this. 0:32:18.260 --> 0:32:20.100 Show. And in fact, we talked about both cases, but 0:32:20.100 --> 0:32:23.660 this one in particular, um, you know, I don't like 0:32:23.660 --> 0:32:27.340 to prophesize or predict, but, uh, you may remember that 0:32:27.340 --> 0:32:31.820 I said this, this one really should be, um, an 0:32:31.900 --> 0:32:34.180 not an easy one, but an easier one for the 0:32:34.180 --> 0:32:37.700 Supreme Court to agree on. Um, it should be a 0:32:37.740 --> 0:32:41.060 no brainer here. The state of Wisconsin, all the way 0:32:41.060 --> 0:32:46.020 up to the Wisconsin Supreme Court, affirmed a rule in 0:32:46.020 --> 0:32:53.140 Wisconsin where a Catholic charity was denied tax exemption because, 0:32:53.380 --> 0:32:57.700 in the opinion of the trial court that was supported 0:32:57.700 --> 0:33:01.100 by the Wisconsin State Supreme Court, in the opinion of 0:33:01.100 --> 0:33:05.770 the courts, uh, the charity, which had a goal and 0:33:05.770 --> 0:33:10.890 mission statement that was based on their beliefs, based on 0:33:11.010 --> 0:33:14.770 the biblical view of charity and helping others because of 0:33:14.810 --> 0:33:18.410 the freedom that the gospel gives us. They said, no, 0:33:18.410 --> 0:33:21.410 that's not enough. You have to show that you are, 0:33:21.730 --> 0:33:26.410 in fact proselytizing, which is another word for evangelizing. Um, 0:33:26.850 --> 0:33:30.930 to change people's mind with your message. And if your 0:33:30.970 --> 0:33:34.530 charity work doesn't include that? Well, we're not going to 0:33:34.530 --> 0:33:37.010 give you an exemption. Now, at the time, I remember 0:33:37.010 --> 0:33:39.490 our discussion because I was the thing that troubled me 0:33:39.490 --> 0:33:43.210 the most was the fact that you've got judges saying, no, 0:33:43.570 --> 0:33:45.050 that's not religious. 0:33:45.050 --> 0:33:45.570 That's not church. 0:33:45.610 --> 0:33:46.450 That's not religious. 0:33:46.490 --> 0:33:46.850 Enough. 0:33:47.170 --> 0:33:49.610 Right. And that's not the role of the court to 0:33:49.650 --> 0:33:55.170 decide whether, uh, they've got their doctrine strapped on. Right. Uh, 0:33:55.170 --> 0:33:58.570 to be religious enough to qualify for an exemption. Um, 0:33:58.610 --> 0:34:03.810 if you are going to say exemptions for any religious activity, 0:34:03.810 --> 0:34:07.410 then you have to interpret ultimately religion fairly broadly, not 0:34:07.410 --> 0:34:13.770 so broad as to be inapplicable, or I should say nonsensical. 0:34:14.170 --> 0:34:16.370 There are some groups that pretend to be religious. You 0:34:16.370 --> 0:34:21.010 and I have talked about them that really are are fake, uh, 0:34:21.570 --> 0:34:25.089 organizations for political purposes or sociological purposes. They really aren't 0:34:25.090 --> 0:34:28.089 religious at all. But there's no question that this was 0:34:28.090 --> 0:34:31.730 a religion based charity, and all the work they did 0:34:31.730 --> 0:34:36.089 was empowered and influenced by those religious beliefs that should 0:34:36.090 --> 0:34:40.330 have qualified easily. And the Supreme Court agreed, uh, that, 0:34:40.370 --> 0:34:44.210 in fact, to parse it out that way, to impose 0:34:44.250 --> 0:34:49.489 yet another requirement on a religion or followers of a 0:34:49.489 --> 0:34:53.970 religion to have equal treatment again and its equal treatment 0:34:53.969 --> 0:34:58.250 under law, issue this one involving religion. You better make 0:34:58.290 --> 0:35:01.560 sure that you have level ground for everybody and that 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.240 your interpretation makes sense. 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.520 Uh, hats off to. Becket fund for their superb representation 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:09.960 in this case. So grateful for the work that they do. 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.319 And continue to do. Their tagline is Religious Liberty for all. 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.839 And this was a perfect example of. That so hat 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.239 tip to Becket for the superb work that they were doing, 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.640 what I found was necessary. Craig, is that again, we've 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.719 talked about this. In colloquial terms, that nowhere in the 0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.240 Constitution do you find the phrase separation of church and state. 0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.759 That that song has been played over and over and 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.440 over again. And it really was in that remarks that 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.680 Jefferson made, not to government, but to a group of Baptists, 0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.480 the Danbury Baptist Society. It was an assurance to them 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.759 that the government wasn't going to poke their nose in 0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.400 their lives, and they were going to be free to 0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.040 worship as they saw fit. And remember, we just had 0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.319 a revolution from a nation that forced you to have 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.600 a particular kind of religion and actually has a history 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.400 of burning people at the stake who didn't believe the 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.040 way the state believed. So why this is part of 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:54.839 the First Amendment is because that was one of the 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.359 more onerous things that they were rebelling against as part 0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.230 of the American Revolution. But this really was a question 0:36:00.270 --> 0:36:04.390 of unnecessary entanglement. When the government decides to say to 0:36:04.430 --> 0:36:07.150 a religious organization, nah, we don't think that was a 0:36:07.150 --> 0:36:10.190 religious enough organization. If there were such a thing as 0:36:10.190 --> 0:36:11.750 church and state, you would have hit the red button 0:36:11.750 --> 0:36:15.070 at that point. But they didn't. They they just pushed 0:36:15.070 --> 0:36:17.469 their way in. That's why the only people who use 0:36:17.469 --> 0:36:20.110 that as a cudgel are the people who really want 0:36:20.150 --> 0:36:24.069 government intrusion in religion, not people who are saying, look, 0:36:24.070 --> 0:36:26.029 just let us be free to worship as we see fit. 0:36:26.030 --> 0:36:29.430 That's why Becket's tagline is so important religious liberty for all. 0:36:29.469 --> 0:36:31.630 Government doesn't get in the way of your liberties. 0:36:31.670 --> 0:36:35.350 If you don't want entanglement, then give a broad version 0:36:35.390 --> 0:36:38.430 of treatment for religion rather than a narrow version that 0:36:38.430 --> 0:36:39.310 kicks some of them out. 0:36:39.350 --> 0:36:42.549 Right. So two excellent decisions yesterday. Doesn't always happen that way, 0:36:42.550 --> 0:36:45.150 but these are a couple we're celebrating back after this. 0:36:49.190 --> 0:36:51.310 So it's interesting, Craig, you talked before about how we 0:36:51.310 --> 0:36:54.549 discussed both of those Supreme Court cases in previous episodes 0:36:54.550 --> 0:36:57.340 of In the Market with Janet Parshall. Well, we discussed 0:36:57.340 --> 0:37:01.100 suicide pods in previous episodes as well. A right to 0:37:01.140 --> 0:37:05.540 die activist questioned for murder after the death of a 0:37:05.540 --> 0:37:09.340 woman using one of those suicide pods, has died by 0:37:10.020 --> 0:37:13.420 assisted suicide. You can't make this stuff up. Stick with me. 0:37:13.460 --> 0:37:17.060 Florian Willet apparently had a mental health crisis after he 0:37:17.060 --> 0:37:21.100 was arrested by Swiss police in September last year, said 0:37:21.140 --> 0:37:24.300 Philipp Nietzsche. You cannot make this up if you know 0:37:24.300 --> 0:37:27.860 Nietzsche is the paradox here. Cannot be missed. Exactly. Philipp 0:37:27.860 --> 0:37:32.339 Nietzsche is the inventor of the suicide capsule. Yes. There 0:37:32.340 --> 0:37:35.620 you go. Nothingness. Uh, Mr. Willett was the director. The 0:37:35.620 --> 0:37:38.420 one who committed suicide by assisted suicide. Who developed the 0:37:38.420 --> 0:37:40.660 suicide pods. Are you tracking with me? Here was the 0:37:40.660 --> 0:37:45.300 director of last resort. Note the twisting of language. The suicide. 0:37:45.300 --> 0:37:49.100 The Swiss suicide organisation which was set up to facilitate 0:37:49.100 --> 0:37:52.660 the use of these suicide pods. So apparently, the 47 0:37:52.660 --> 0:37:56.209 year old German was investigated for aiding and abetting suicide. 0:37:56.210 --> 0:37:58.730 So it wasn't cut and dry. Not just quite the clean, 0:37:58.770 --> 0:38:01.290 slick market program. They had about just go out in 0:38:01.290 --> 0:38:02.969 the woods and slip in one of these pods, and 0:38:02.969 --> 0:38:06.250 all your problems will go away forever. No, it wasn't 0:38:06.250 --> 0:38:10.210 quite that tidy. So prosecutors investigated whether he had strangled 0:38:10.210 --> 0:38:12.370 the woman when she was in the pub. But that 0:38:12.370 --> 0:38:15.370 was ruled out because before he was released in December 0:38:15.610 --> 0:38:20.650 after 70 days of pre-trial detention. And so Mr. Nietzsche, 0:38:21.050 --> 0:38:25.569 the director of Exit International, he must have teamed up 0:38:25.570 --> 0:38:27.530 with his buddy Jean-Paul Sartre. Right, Craig? 0:38:27.690 --> 0:38:29.530 So a happy bunch. 0:38:29.610 --> 0:38:34.130 Happy bunch. Exactly. Gone was his warm smile, said Mr. Nietzsche. 0:38:34.330 --> 0:38:36.890 And self-confidence in its place was a man who was 0:38:36.890 --> 0:38:40.650 deeply traumatised by the experience of incarceration and the wrongful 0:38:40.650 --> 0:38:44.610 accusation of strangulation. Talk about missing the forest for the trees. 0:38:44.610 --> 0:38:48.570 So he was mentally depressed because of his being incarcerated. 0:38:48.570 --> 0:38:50.529 How about the fact that you built a machine that 0:38:50.530 --> 0:38:52.450 took a woman's life? That that bother you at all, 0:38:52.450 --> 0:38:54.089 or just the part that you were incarcerated. 0:38:54.090 --> 0:38:57.569 Your thoughts? Yeah. Um, you know, I was struck with it. 0:38:57.650 --> 0:39:01.810 You and I have gone back, uh, many years dealing 0:39:01.810 --> 0:39:06.330 with this issue. I handle a case in a state 0:39:06.330 --> 0:39:09.489 Supreme court, um, dealing. And this was a long time 0:39:09.489 --> 0:39:12.810 ago dealing with the issue. And it is one that 0:39:12.850 --> 0:39:15.850 really tells us a lot about the problems in our 0:39:15.850 --> 0:39:21.450 culture and in the thinking that has, uh, really a 0:39:21.450 --> 0:39:24.650 very delusional aspect to it. And that is that somehow 0:39:24.650 --> 0:39:28.530 you're winning if you are the person deciding the time 0:39:28.530 --> 0:39:31.850 and date of your demise. What you don't realize is 0:39:31.850 --> 0:39:35.970 God already knew it in advance. He didn't cause it. 0:39:35.969 --> 0:39:39.650 But in a world, a sin sick world, uh, since 0:39:39.650 --> 0:39:43.210 the garden, um, people make bad choices. And I really 0:39:43.210 --> 0:39:46.450 felt bad for this individual because there were some mental 0:39:46.450 --> 0:39:50.009 health issues with him, clearly. And apparently he had sought 0:39:50.050 --> 0:39:52.480 psychiatric help. But you know what I thought? I thought 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.240 of a verse. I thought of what Jesus said in 0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:59.359 the 10th chapter of John, verse ten. He said, the 0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:04.080 thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:08.360 came so that they might have life and have it abundantly. Um. 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.399 Euthanasia like this. Which is a fancy word that is 0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:17.280 a euphemism for suicide. Let's face it. It's taking your 0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:20.919 own life, no matter what aspect of language you want 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:24.080 to apply to it. The bottom line is you. For 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.840 you to say, I'm making a choice, and I'm being 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:32.040 victorious by being the person determining the time and date 0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.439 of my life is not only a delusion, because that 0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:38.439 was determined when you know God created the first atom 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:42.920 in the universe. But more importantly, he's lost the opportunity 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.880 for an abundant life, that there are forces out there 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:52.109 and bad ideas that have come to steal, kill and destroy. 0:40:52.310 --> 0:40:55.830 They don't come dressed like that. They come dressed like 0:40:55.830 --> 0:41:01.630 the euthanasia movement for self-determination and having a good exit 0:41:01.630 --> 0:41:05.069 from life and choosing your way to be able to 0:41:05.110 --> 0:41:09.310 leave this life behind us. And the language and the 0:41:09.310 --> 0:41:14.870 flourishes and the advocacy all covers the fact that this 0:41:14.870 --> 0:41:18.950 is killing and destroying a life that could have found 0:41:18.950 --> 0:41:22.950 an abundant life and eternal life had they gone to 0:41:22.989 --> 0:41:24.950 the life giver and His Word. 0:41:25.750 --> 0:41:27.910 There is a way that seemeth right unto man and 0:41:27.910 --> 0:41:29.509 the end there in his death. I mean, if that 0:41:29.510 --> 0:41:32.509 isn't a succinct verse for that particular situation. The other 0:41:32.510 --> 0:41:34.550 thing I was also thinking about, too, is this raises 0:41:34.550 --> 0:41:37.350 some transcendent issues that is maturing believers we need to 0:41:37.350 --> 0:41:40.509 be thinking about. And that is, is there anything profitable 0:41:40.510 --> 0:41:43.110 that can come out of suffering? You know, we've talked 0:41:43.150 --> 0:41:45.350 interesting a couple of times this week. We've been talking 0:41:45.350 --> 0:41:47.469 about suffering. It is an age old question. It's one 0:41:47.469 --> 0:41:50.259 humankind has struggled with since we walked out of the garden. 0:41:50.260 --> 0:41:53.219 But can we see a value in that? Why would 0:41:53.219 --> 0:41:56.060 we be invited into the fellowship of his suffering? So 0:41:56.300 --> 0:41:59.340 you've got someone who's suffering mentally or physically, and you're thinking, 0:41:59.340 --> 0:42:01.060 isn't it merciful? I mean, look what we do to 0:42:01.100 --> 0:42:03.140 the family dog. Isn't it merciful to do this to 0:42:03.180 --> 0:42:07.060 a family member as well? Well, those are deep theological questions. 0:42:09.860 --> 0:42:13.819 Searching about this. And I've decided for me personally that 0:42:13.860 --> 0:42:16.940 while no one wants to suffer. Suffer is where I 0:42:16.940 --> 0:42:20.259 get refined like no place else. The points get whittled off, 0:42:20.260 --> 0:42:23.660 the having to press into him, completely understanding you were 0:42:23.660 --> 0:42:27.820 never in control. And these circumstances are reminding you absolutely 0:42:27.820 --> 0:42:31.820 you have no control whatsoever. So, um, the idea that 0:42:31.820 --> 0:42:33.140 all you have to do to get rid of your 0:42:33.140 --> 0:42:35.620 problems is to simply step into this pod, which, by 0:42:35.620 --> 0:42:37.700 the way, this woman who was killed, I'm not going 0:42:37.700 --> 0:42:40.340 to say she committed suicide. They said it was fast 0:42:40.340 --> 0:42:42.780 and it was dignified. They put her in a pod 0:42:42.780 --> 0:42:45.500 and they suffocated her. That's what, in a word, that's 0:42:45.500 --> 0:42:49.580 how the mechanics work. There's nothing dignified about that. It's brutal. 0:42:49.580 --> 0:42:52.739 And it fails in our recognition of the image of 0:42:52.739 --> 0:42:56.300 God in our fellow man. How dare we? Your thoughts? 0:42:56.340 --> 0:42:58.700 You know God has a plan for how we should 0:42:58.739 --> 0:43:01.939 handle suffering. The perspective. And it's again in his word. 0:43:01.940 --> 0:43:04.540 He made it easy for us. Second Corinthians, the very 0:43:04.540 --> 0:43:09.500 first chapter. God who comforts us in all our afflictions 0:43:09.540 --> 0:43:12.939 so we may be able to comfort those who are 0:43:13.060 --> 0:43:16.940 in any affliction with the comfort with which we ourselves 0:43:16.980 --> 0:43:19.779 are comforted by God. When you go through trials and 0:43:19.780 --> 0:43:23.219 tribulations and God is able to bring you through, you 0:43:23.219 --> 0:43:27.380 can bring that fact of God's comfort to other people 0:43:27.380 --> 0:43:30.060 who are suffering so that they may receive the blessing 0:43:30.060 --> 0:43:30.820 of it as well. 0:43:30.900 --> 0:43:34.100 We talked to Doctor Matthew McCullough of Edgefield Church yesterday 0:43:34.100 --> 0:43:36.259 on his new book, remember Heaven. And one of the 0:43:36.260 --> 0:43:39.340 reasons why he challenged us to remember heaven is to 0:43:39.380 --> 0:43:41.740 remember that when we get our perspective right on heaven, 0:43:41.739 --> 0:43:44.300 it helps us endure. As the words of Scripture declared 0:43:44.300 --> 0:43:49.370 these momentary afflictions that whatever we're dealing with here, it 0:43:49.370 --> 0:43:52.930 is going to be surpassed by the eternality of being 0:43:52.930 --> 0:43:56.170 forever in his presence. So it's important that we remember 0:43:56.170 --> 0:43:59.050 that and that we continue to press on. So something 0:43:59.050 --> 0:44:01.250 to think about. A lot of stories there. So we 0:44:01.250 --> 0:44:03.170 thank you so much for spending the hour with us, 0:44:03.170 --> 0:44:06.930 reminding you again love our truth tool. It talks about 0:44:06.930 --> 0:44:09.290 the wonder of God. So a whole bunch of authors 0:44:09.290 --> 0:44:12.810 contributed and asked questions about why we seek money when 0:44:12.810 --> 0:44:15.410 we know it won't satisfy, why we want happy endings 0:44:15.410 --> 0:44:18.569 and stories, why we long for happiness. The list goes 0:44:18.570 --> 0:44:20.530 on and on and on. And when it all gets 0:44:20.530 --> 0:44:23.009 said and done, it points to God himself and the 0:44:23.010 --> 0:44:25.649 relationship of a great king who put that sense of 0:44:25.650 --> 0:44:28.130 awe and wonder in us because he is the very 0:44:28.130 --> 0:44:31.129 essence of awe and wonder. It's a great truth tool. 0:44:31.130 --> 0:44:33.650 It's yours for a gift of any amount. 877 Janet 0:44:33.650 --> 0:44:37.450 58 or online at in the market with Janet parshall.org. 0:44:38.210 --> 0:44:39.850 Have a great weekend. Stick around if you can join 0:44:39.850 --> 0:44:41.570 us for the next hour or listen on the podcast. 0:44:41.570 --> 0:44:42.570 We'll see you next time.