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S5: All right. Big offering we're putting on the table here.

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S5: Big one. Oh, yeah. This is big. You do not

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S5: This proves the point. See if Mike Tirico I love

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S2: That's such an interesting thing that we're doing. We just

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S5: Changes everything. Now you're going to testify to it. How

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S8: Oh, jeez. I've been married since 2009, and my husband's

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S9: Yes. It was, um. I at first thought this this

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S5: Wow, Pam. Wow. That's beautiful.

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S5: It's absolutely beautiful. Incredible. Uh, Terrence, first time caller. Lorain, Ohio.

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S5: Yeah, that's just awesome. All glory to God. My long

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S5: We got a question for you today. How has God

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S10: I started, you know, I just want to give God

457
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:11,469
S10: the glory. Because if it wasn't for God, you know,

458
00:21:11,550 --> 00:21:13,310
S10: my wife and I would not be together today. You know,

459
00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:16,750
S10: we've been married for 12 years, been together for 15 years. And,

460
00:21:16,790 --> 00:21:18,350
S10: you know, it got to the point where, you know,

461
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:21,669
S10: I started little by little, taking my my wife to granite,

462
00:21:21,670 --> 00:21:24,270
S10: which I'm not very proud of. Right. But at the

463
00:21:24,270 --> 00:21:26,590
S10: same time, my wife started noticing that and she started

464
00:21:26,590 --> 00:21:29,670
S10: noticing some distance and by the glory of God. Long

465
00:21:29,670 --> 00:21:32,390
S10: story short, you know, we decided to take some marital

466
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:34,550
S10: classes in our church, and I'm just thankful that our

467
00:21:34,550 --> 00:21:37,189
S10: church is able to provide those resources. Yeah. And, you know,

468
00:21:37,230 --> 00:21:39,910
S10: we started to know each other more and and love

469
00:21:39,910 --> 00:21:41,750
S10: on each other more. Carry each other more. You know,

470
00:21:41,790 --> 00:21:43,989
S10: I started understanding what she really needs and what she

471
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:46,270
S10: understanding what I really need. And, you know, I just

472
00:21:46,270 --> 00:21:47,949
S10: thank God for it. Because, you know, it got to

473
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:50,629
S10: the point that it was getting overwhelming for my wife

474
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:53,189
S10: and just getting frustrated for me. And and again, if

475
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:56,630
S10: it wasn't for God intervening, you know, I can honestly

476
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:59,149
S10: say who knows what could have happened. But but the

477
00:21:59,150 --> 00:22:01,950
S10: Bible says that God brought together no man should separate.

478
00:22:01,950 --> 00:22:03,710
S10: So I'm so thankful that my wife and I, we've

479
00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:06,430
S10: been together 15 years. We were able to celebrate my

480
00:22:06,430 --> 00:22:09,470
S10: birthday yesterday and if it wasn't, my wife is a

481
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:11,669
S10: true giver. She has a big heart, and that's one

482
00:22:11,670 --> 00:22:14,670
S10: of the biggest things that I think that we tend

483
00:22:14,670 --> 00:22:16,870
S10: to forget. Oh, that person has a big heart. They're

484
00:22:16,869 --> 00:22:18,310
S10: not going to know. They're not going. They're going to

485
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:19,909
S10: be able to forgive me. That's just the lie of

486
00:22:19,910 --> 00:22:20,389
S10: the enemy.

487
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:21,870
S5: Yeah, you got that right.

488
00:22:21,910 --> 00:22:24,150
S10: One of the things, you know, I just appreciate the

489
00:22:24,150 --> 00:22:27,190
S10: fact that my wife was still saying, yes, I'm still yes.

490
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:29,750
S10: But one thing that I've noticed is that if the

491
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:32,390
S10: marriage does not work, if God is not rooted in

492
00:22:32,670 --> 00:22:35,030
S10: your marriage, if you're not built on the foundation of

493
00:22:35,030 --> 00:22:37,550
S10: the Word of God, then you're not going to be

494
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:39,989
S10: able to surpass what the enemy is throwing at you.

495
00:22:40,030 --> 00:22:42,030
S10: So the Bible says where the two or more gathered

496
00:22:42,030 --> 00:22:43,430
S10: in his name, he's in the midst. So that means

497
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:45,750
S10: whatever the enemy throws at you, then he's not going

498
00:22:45,790 --> 00:22:48,190
S10: to prevail against your marriage, because again, God has joined

499
00:22:48,190 --> 00:22:50,230
S10: you for a reason. We tend to forget that we

500
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:54,669
S10: didn't pick that spouse. God picked that spouse for us.

501
00:22:54,670 --> 00:22:57,510
S10: But that's just my testimony. I encourage people get in

502
00:22:57,510 --> 00:23:00,470
S10: the word. Know your, know your, your, your spouse. Because

503
00:23:00,510 --> 00:23:02,390
S10: at the end of the day, when you're empty nesters,

504
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:04,030
S10: that's the person you're going to spend the rest of

505
00:23:04,030 --> 00:23:04,750
S10: your life with.

506
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:08,790
S5: Hector. Hector I'm living that man right now. Thank you

507
00:23:08,790 --> 00:23:11,550
S5: so much for calling in. And what I loved about Hector.

508
00:23:11,869 --> 00:23:15,560
S5: The main thing is it's got to be Christ at

509
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,840
S5: the center that others all this other stuff is kind

510
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,520
S5: of tips and tricks.

511
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,320
S2: Hey coming to me with tips and.

512
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,360
S3: Jonathan.

513
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,959
S5: Kind of tips and tricks. Mark Tinley Park, thanks for

514
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,200
S5: holding on. What do you say? Tinley Park, Illinois.

515
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,199
S11: Uh, God has helped me and my wife in our

516
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,639
S11: marriage going through the loss of our two year old daughter.

517
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,600
S5: Oh my word, the oh.

518
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:43,560
S12: The.

519
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,680
S11: You know, and the only difference between the accident that

520
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,960
S11: took my daughter and Michael W Smith's daughter is I

521
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,200
S11: was the one who was behind the wheel. And when

522
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,960
S11: you have somebody from when you have somebody from DCFS

523
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,600
S11: in your in your house grilling you and basically holding

524
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,800
S11: the possibility of jail.

525
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:08,680
S12: Yeah.

526
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,040
S11: Over. You, you get scared.

527
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:11,840
S12: Yeah.

528
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,560
S5: And it's in, in your, in, in your process in

529
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,440
S5: a broken heart and everything. By the way I just

530
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,800
S5: want to interject here, I think you I think you

531
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,840
S5: mean Steven Curtis Chapman not Michael W Smith. But go

532
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:22,520
S5: ahead Mark.

533
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,280
S11: Yeah yeah that's right, that's right. My apologies.

534
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,040
S12: No that's not a problem.

535
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,800
S11: Yeah. Um but yeah. But as you know, God has

536
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:38,520
S11: worked through our marriage by we never blamed each other

537
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,800
S11: for something we could have done. It was always, no,

538
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,159
S11: it's my fault because I didn't do A, B and C. Yeah,

539
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,760
S11: and God was. He has healed the both of us. Like, no,

540
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,840
S11: it's not your fault, number one. And number two, I've

541
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320
S11: helped you through, you know, I've helped you through this.

542
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,080
S11: You know, we actually had some counsel from a gentleman

543
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,440
S11: who was, uh, working through this organization of pass with, um, uh,

544
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,440
S11: a a, uh, pregnancy aid center down here in the area.

545
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560
S11: And he had told us, you know, to stay rooted

546
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,399
S11: in your faith because 75% of marriages end in divorce

547
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,600
S11: within five years of the loss of a child.

548
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,680
S12: And next month.

549
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,240
S11: Next month, it'll be 17 years for us.

550
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,199
S5: Now, Mark, listen. Listen, Mark. Um. Awesome. We've got a

551
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,840
S5: boogie here, man. But I wanted to pause enough to say, bro, this.

552
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,479
S5: You're surviving. This thing is all glory to God. We

553
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,920
S5: are 100% with you on that one, and I am

554
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,960
S5: still so sorry for your loss. 17 years can feel

555
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:49,679
S5: like yesterday and man, that's heartbreaking bro. That is heartbreaking

556
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,880
S5: to go through all that and yet look at what

557
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,920
S5: God has done. What an amazing thing. What an amazing thing.

558
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,679
S2: Praise God.

559
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,200
S5: Yeah. All glory to God. Right, guys?

560
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,160
S3: Absolutely.

561
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,640
S2: Only he is responsible for for the mending and the

562
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,680
S2: sustaining of our marriages. We can't. We can't be good

563
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,520
S2: husbands and wives without him. Man.

564
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,480
S5: Oh, man. In surviving those storms. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Uh, Carolyn,

565
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,000
S5: let's get you in here quickly. First time caller. Chicago.

566
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,040
S5: What do you say, Carolyn?

567
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,720
S13: Hi. Um, I we've been married 41. It'll be 42

568
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,280
S13: years this year. And at 39 years, I got tired

569
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,760
S13: of his alcohol addiction. And we put our kids through

570
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,879
S13: a lot of things. We have three boys. Um, but I, um.

571
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,760
S13: I decided to file for divorce. He got served, and, um,

572
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,359
S13: I decided also. Well, I heard a message on Moody

573
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,080
S13: that they said, sometimes we're praying for restoration. You need

574
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,440
S13: to pray for resurrection. So I changed my prayers and

575
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,919
S13: I couldn't believe it. The change started happening. He joined

576
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,879
S13: Celebrate Recovery. Um. And I'm going to cry about.

577
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,119
S5: Yeah, that's all right.

578
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,560
S13: We we stopped the divorce, and we're both serving as

579
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,119
S13: celebrate recovery. Um, I thought I went there to support him.

580
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,560
S13: I need to help myself. So it was just awesome

581
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,000
S13: what God has done in my life.

582
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,879
S5: Carolyn, that is such a beautiful story.

583
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,000
S2: Oh my gosh.

584
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,760
S5: Are you kidding me?

585
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,639
S2: What reinforces.

586
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,439
S3: Carl? What you often say we're all in recovery.

587
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,600
S5: Recovery. This this notion that recovery ministry is for a

588
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,239
S5: select few in the church. Carolyn, can I just tell you,

589
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,400
S5: we're all in recovery, sister. Okay.

590
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,359
S13: Amen. Amen. I think everyone should go through Celebrate Recovery.

591
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,840
S5: I think the church should adopt a discipleship model that

592
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,280
S5: embraces the principles of celebrate recovery for that very reason.

593
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,960
S5: Because this notion. Sorry. I mean, you get me on

594
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,000
S5: my soapbox now, Carolyn. See there. But the this notion

595
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,280
S5: that we have this group of people over here that

596
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,240
S5: are in recovery and praise be to God, this big

597
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,120
S5: group over here that I don't even know. It's not

598
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,879
S5: the we've arrived group, but the the we've overcome quite

599
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,320
S5: a bit.

600
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,480
S2: Yeah, yeah. Or that recovery ministry is only for the

601
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,080
S2: most intense of sins.

602
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,760
S5: Yeah. I mean that's the that's the problem. Last time

603
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,800
S5: I looked. God still helping.

604
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:22,840
S2: Man.

605
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,119
S5: Uh, pathological gossipers.

606
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:25,600
S12: Yeah.

607
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,400
S5: Yeah.

608
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,640
S2: People who were routinely selfish liars.

609
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,320
S5: Yeah, yeah, he can handle it all. How about these

610
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,880
S5: calls wow.

611
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,440
S3: Wow and wow? Or should I say boom boom boom?

612
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,200
S12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I missed it.

613
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,120
S3: Boom boom.

614
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:49,520
S5: Boom boom. My goodness. If that doesn't fire you up.

615
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,800
S3: You got wet.

616
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,400
S2: Wood.

617
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,560
S5: Yeah God can dry it out. Oh. Let him do

618
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,680
S5: a work in you today. Boom.

619
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,400
S1: Crew Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic Overnight.

620
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,600
S1: Super dye is in the crew. It's curling crew on

621
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,600
S1: Moody Radio.

622
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,959
S5: It's always a joy to have this man with us.

623
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,640
S5: Let's set it up. How would you capture this man?

624
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,440
S5: Come on.

625
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,400
S3: Well, you know, I love that. Whenever we get him

626
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,600
S3: on with us, you like to say, is this the love, doctor?

627
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,920
S12: That's about what I say.

628
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,560
S3: That's what you say. So I'm just gonna go with that.

629
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,000
S12: Because.

630
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,680
S3: That always gives us all a good laugh. Because.

631
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,800
S5: Well, let me just let me just ask it. Right.

632
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,160
S5: Let's have some fun. Gary's a spirited guy. Is this

633
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,240
S5: the love, doctor?

634
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,640
S12: Absolutely.

635
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,080
S5: Doctor. Gary Chapman, everybody. Oh my goodness. You know, we're

636
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,160
S5: talking love, marriage, family all week long. It's so good

637
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,120
S5: to have you duck in here. We appreciate it. We

638
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560
S5: know you got a new book out with the parrots.

639
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,680
S5: So we're going to feature that here in a little bit.

640
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,120
S5: And boom crew you're going to want this one. Um,

641
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,410
S5: I really want to take a gander over the last Decades.

642
00:30:01,090 --> 00:30:07,170
S5: How have marriages changed? Cultural dynamics? Things have changed. What's

643
00:30:07,170 --> 00:30:10,010
S5: your vantage point? What are you seeing, Gary. And go

644
00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:12,690
S5: back a little bit and then lead us to where

645
00:30:12,690 --> 00:30:15,290
S5: are we at today? The good and the tough that

646
00:30:15,290 --> 00:30:16,090
S5: we're facing.

647
00:30:16,330 --> 00:30:20,010
S14: Well, life was much more simple.

648
00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:21,650
S12: In.

649
00:30:21,650 --> 00:30:26,970
S14: Former days when I came along. Now there's so many

650
00:30:26,970 --> 00:30:31,050
S14: things calling for our attention that often I think in

651
00:30:31,050 --> 00:30:34,130
S14: a marriage, each of us are so involved in other

652
00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:38,490
S14: things online and everything else, always calling our attention that

653
00:30:38,490 --> 00:30:42,730
S14: sometimes we're neglecting each other and we drift. And if

654
00:30:42,730 --> 00:30:47,010
S14: we drift, we always drift apart. You never drift together.

655
00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:48,770
S14: You got to put the oars in if you're going

656
00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:51,610
S14: to go together. And so I think that's one of

657
00:30:51,610 --> 00:30:55,890
S14: the big issues. I think also we have many younger

658
00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:59,930
S14: couples who grew up in homes where their parents divorced,

659
00:31:00,090 --> 00:31:03,610
S14: and so they don't have a model of a healthy,

660
00:31:03,610 --> 00:31:07,410
S14: long term marriage. They want it, you know they want it.

661
00:31:07,690 --> 00:31:10,890
S14: But if they get into trouble, then they begin to think, well,

662
00:31:10,930 --> 00:31:13,610
S14: I guess this is why my parents separated, you know?

663
00:31:13,650 --> 00:31:15,610
S14: So I guess maybe we're going to have to do

664
00:31:15,610 --> 00:31:18,170
S14: the same thing. But I think deep in their heart,

665
00:31:18,170 --> 00:31:21,810
S14: they really want to have a lifelong marriage that is

666
00:31:21,810 --> 00:31:25,850
S14: enjoyable and that enriches each other's lives. I think this

667
00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:28,890
S14: is the heart cry of the new generation, but I

668
00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:30,650
S14: think it's much more difficult today.

669
00:31:30,850 --> 00:31:35,090
S3: Doctor Gary Chapman, our guest right now, well known marriage counselor, speaker, pastor,

670
00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:39,090
S3: author of New York Times bestseller The Five Love Languages.

671
00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:43,050
S3: It has sold over 20 million copies and been on

672
00:31:43,050 --> 00:31:48,130
S3: the New York Times bestseller list continuously since 2007. That

673
00:31:48,130 --> 00:31:51,729
S3: is wild. I'm curious, with this much reach with the

674
00:31:51,730 --> 00:31:55,770
S3: Five Love Languages book and the resources, what's been the

675
00:31:55,770 --> 00:31:59,770
S3: most surprising ways that you have seen or heard of

676
00:32:00,130 --> 00:32:02,490
S3: the five love languages being utilized?

677
00:32:02,810 --> 00:32:05,770
S14: Well, people have used it in all settings. I wrote

678
00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:09,370
S14: the original book, of course, primarily for couples, but as

679
00:32:09,370 --> 00:32:11,970
S14: you know, we've had a lot of spinoffs since then.

680
00:32:12,010 --> 00:32:15,130
S14: How it works with the blended families, how it works

681
00:32:15,130 --> 00:32:18,650
S14: with children, how it works with teenagers, how it works

682
00:32:18,650 --> 00:32:21,650
S14: in the with special needs children, how it works in

683
00:32:21,650 --> 00:32:26,050
S14: the workplace. The five languages of appreciation, the workplace. And

684
00:32:26,050 --> 00:32:29,450
S14: that's been very, very encouraging. I never anticipated all of

685
00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:32,650
S14: that when I wrote the original book, because I discovered

686
00:32:32,650 --> 00:32:36,930
S14: this reality in the context of marriage counseling. You know,

687
00:32:36,970 --> 00:32:38,890
S14: people would sit in my office and one of them

688
00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:41,010
S14: would say, I just feel like he doesn't love me

689
00:32:41,010 --> 00:32:43,130
S14: or she doesn't love me. And the other would say,

690
00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:45,730
S14: I don't understand that I do this and this and

691
00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:48,410
S14: this and this. Why wouldn't you feel love? And I

692
00:32:48,410 --> 00:32:52,610
S14: realized that being sincere was not enough. You had to

693
00:32:52,650 --> 00:32:55,610
S14: learn how to speak the other person's language. What makes

694
00:32:55,610 --> 00:32:58,650
S14: one person feel love doesn't make another person feel love.

695
00:32:58,690 --> 00:33:01,490
S14: So I never really anticipated it going into all of

696
00:33:01,490 --> 00:33:04,770
S14: these other venues, but it was pretty easy because people

697
00:33:04,770 --> 00:33:07,410
S14: kept reading the book and say, yeah, this applies with

698
00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:11,050
S14: children too, doesn't it? So I teamed up with Doctor

699
00:33:11,050 --> 00:33:14,810
S14: Ross Campbell, a psychiatrist who'd spent 20 years working with children,

700
00:33:14,810 --> 00:33:17,130
S14: and we wrote The Five Love Languages of Children. And

701
00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:20,410
S14: then it just continued. So all of that really, uh,

702
00:33:20,410 --> 00:33:24,450
S14: it's been incredibly wonderful, but it was not anything that

703
00:33:24,450 --> 00:33:26,690
S14: I dreamed of when I wrote the original book.

704
00:33:26,970 --> 00:33:29,770
S5: You know, the interesting thing, Gary, yesterday we were tackling

705
00:33:29,770 --> 00:33:32,370
S5: this issue of love and the power of love. I

706
00:33:32,370 --> 00:33:35,450
S5: was using a sled dog metaphor from my days in Alaska,

707
00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:38,290
S5: running the Iditarod and all that stuff, and and it's

708
00:33:38,290 --> 00:33:42,450
S5: it's interesting, Gary. There's a lot of people motivated by

709
00:33:42,490 --> 00:33:46,330
S5: fear or obligation in their relationship with God, but the

710
00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:50,090
S5: love of God actually fuels a healthy response to God.

711
00:33:50,290 --> 00:33:53,810
S5: How much more so? Is that even true in marriage?

712
00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:58,010
S5: It seems like there's. This is what causes glorified roommates, right?

713
00:33:58,050 --> 00:34:01,090
S5: It's this obligation. Not so much fear, but there's some

714
00:34:01,090 --> 00:34:05,250
S5: fear based love out there. Um, I'm always coming back to.

715
00:34:05,290 --> 00:34:08,850
S5: There's got to be this. This connection with the love

716
00:34:08,850 --> 00:34:12,969
S5: of God. And from the overflow of that. It's not gimmicks.

717
00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:16,250
S5: It's not obligation. It's the real deal. What have you

718
00:34:16,290 --> 00:34:18,330
S5: seen along those lines?

719
00:34:18,969 --> 00:34:21,890
S14: Well, I think there's no question. But what? Christians have

720
00:34:21,890 --> 00:34:25,770
S14: an advantage in marriage because we have outside help. You know,

721
00:34:25,810 --> 00:34:28,570
S14: the scriptures say the love of God is poured into

722
00:34:28,570 --> 00:34:31,529
S14: our hearts by the Holy Spirit. So even if we

723
00:34:31,530 --> 00:34:34,210
S14: are married and things aren't going well and we don't

724
00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:38,370
S14: feel loved by our spouse, we can still be God's

725
00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:42,009
S14: agent for loving them. And we can say, Lord, you

726
00:34:42,010 --> 00:34:45,370
S14: know what I'm married to here. You know how it's going.

727
00:34:45,410 --> 00:34:48,650
S14: I don't feel loved by them, but I want to

728
00:34:48,650 --> 00:34:52,930
S14: be your agent for expressing love to them. And this

729
00:34:52,930 --> 00:34:55,890
S14: doesn't start with a feeling. It starts with an attitude.

730
00:34:55,930 --> 00:34:59,450
S14: It's the attitude of Christ because he loved us while

731
00:34:59,450 --> 00:35:02,330
S14: we were still unlovely. And we can love a spouse

732
00:35:02,330 --> 00:35:05,370
S14: who's unlovely. And when we do and speak it in

733
00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:09,610
S14: the right language, we are having a positive influence on them.

734
00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:12,930
S14: Because the scriptures say we love God because he first

735
00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:16,770
S14: loved us. Yeah, he started this. We just responded. And

736
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:20,690
S14: that principle is true in human relationships. So with the

737
00:35:20,690 --> 00:35:23,170
S14: help of God, we can love a spouse even if

738
00:35:23,170 --> 00:35:27,129
S14: we don't have positive feelings toward them because we don't

739
00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:30,489
S14: control our feelings. But we do control whether we're going

740
00:35:30,530 --> 00:35:34,050
S14: to let the feelings control us. And so I think

741
00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:37,250
S14: that's a powerful truth of and I think it would

742
00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:41,970
S14: revolutionize many marriages if they would communicate love to a spouse,

743
00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:45,130
S14: even when they don't feel loved. And see what happens.

744
00:35:45,130 --> 00:35:46,969
S14: Because love stimulates love.

745
00:35:47,370 --> 00:35:50,089
S3: Doctor Gary Chapman, our guest right now. Coming up, the

746
00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:54,650
S3: long anticipated follow up to the Five Love Languages just

747
00:35:54,690 --> 00:35:56,850
S3: released this past month. We want to tell you about

748
00:35:56,850 --> 00:35:58,930
S3: it with our special guest, Doctor Gary Chapman, coming up

749
00:35:58,930 --> 00:35:59,970
S3: here on Carl and crew.

750
00:36:00,770 --> 00:36:05,010
S1: Standing on the rock each and every day. You're listening

751
00:36:05,050 --> 00:36:06,290
S1: to Carl and crew.

752
00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:09,330
S3: Well, you've probably heard people talk about their love language.

753
00:36:09,330 --> 00:36:11,649
S3: I've heard this in pop culture with people who may

754
00:36:11,650 --> 00:36:14,649
S3: have never even heard of Doctor Gary Chapman, but they've

755
00:36:14,650 --> 00:36:17,489
S3: sure heard of those love languages. Doctor Chapman with us

756
00:36:17,489 --> 00:36:21,410
S3: right now, the long anticipated follow up. Tell us about

757
00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:22,930
S3: it just out this past month.

758
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:25,730
S14: Well, you know what's happened through the years. You know,

759
00:36:25,770 --> 00:36:28,610
S14: the original book's been out over 30 years now, and

760
00:36:28,610 --> 00:36:31,610
S14: the two questions have surfaced by people who've read the

761
00:36:31,610 --> 00:36:34,529
S14: original book. Uh, one of them is they say, you know,

762
00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:37,649
S14: Doctor Chapman in that book, you mentioned that the these

763
00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:41,530
S14: languages have dialects, but you don't tell us what they are.

764
00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:46,569
S14: And you also talk about how personality interfaces with the

765
00:36:46,780 --> 00:36:50,060
S14: love languages, but you don't really describe that very well.

766
00:36:50,620 --> 00:36:51,899
S14: And so in this new.

767
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:52,340
S12: Book.

768
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:56,779
S14: We're doing it, we're going to talk about all the not.

769
00:36:56,820 --> 00:36:59,339
S14: Not necessarily all of them, but many of the dialects

770
00:36:59,340 --> 00:37:02,500
S14: within each of these languages. And we're also going to

771
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:06,900
S14: talk about how personality interfaces with the love languages. And

772
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:10,460
S14: along with the book, of course, there's an online assessment,

773
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:16,420
S14: a premier love language assessment, which shows you which dialect

774
00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:19,379
S14: or which 1 or 2 dialects in your primary love

775
00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:23,540
S14: language really speak deeply to you. And so people having

776
00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:26,379
S14: that information, I think this book is going to help

777
00:37:26,380 --> 00:37:27,740
S14: a lot of people.

778
00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:33,100
S5: Give us a taste of dialect missing or connecting a

779
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:34,460
S5: positive or a negative?

780
00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:38,299
S14: Well, you know, let's take gifts for example. There are

781
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:42,260
S14: fanciful gifts, you know, like jewelry cost lots of money

782
00:37:42,620 --> 00:37:46,060
S14: and they're functional gifts. And sometimes we think, well, I'm

783
00:37:46,060 --> 00:37:48,500
S14: going to really do this big thing for them. But

784
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:51,859
S14: their dialect is not fanciful. It's functional. You know, they'd

785
00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:56,219
S14: much rather have a new coffee maker, you know, or uh,

786
00:37:56,219 --> 00:37:59,700
S14: and all the languages are have these dialects to them.

787
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:03,860
S14: And we understand that about our spouse. It gives us

788
00:38:03,860 --> 00:38:08,180
S14: more information to successfully keep their love tanks full.

789
00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:08,980
S12: Okay.

790
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:12,739
S5: Quick follow up on that. Is this as a dialect

791
00:38:12,739 --> 00:38:16,819
S5: to be discerned, or is a dialect to be discovered

792
00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:23,140
S5: through open, honest conversations? I have benefited most by shining

793
00:38:23,140 --> 00:38:28,819
S5: the surprise totally and just saying baby boom. Here's what

794
00:38:28,820 --> 00:38:33,620
S5: I want to discuss with you. There's something about just

795
00:38:33,620 --> 00:38:37,500
S5: finding out what the person's dialect is, isn't there, Gary?

796
00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:42,100
S14: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's really important. But I think many

797
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:45,060
S14: folks have not thought in terms of what what are

798
00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:48,339
S14: the dialects within my language, you know? And I think

799
00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:50,260
S14: that's why this book is going to help them, because

800
00:38:50,260 --> 00:38:52,500
S14: they're going to read a lot of examples of each

801
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:54,939
S14: one of these, and they're going to say in their mind,

802
00:38:54,980 --> 00:39:00,460
S14: oh yeah, that is the dialect in my language. And

803
00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:03,820
S14: it's going to help couples have an open discussion based

804
00:39:03,820 --> 00:39:07,100
S14: on the the book itself. And also if they take

805
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:11,500
S14: the premier quiz, they're going to really understand themselves better

806
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:14,140
S14: and then and then share with each other, you know,

807
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:18,299
S14: their dialect and their personality and how that affects, for example,

808
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,380
S14: you know, let's say the introvert extrovert. And if you

809
00:39:21,380 --> 00:39:24,860
S14: don't take this into account, let's say your spouse's language

810
00:39:24,860 --> 00:39:28,180
S14: is words of affirmation. So you're going to do something

811
00:39:28,180 --> 00:39:30,859
S14: really big the next time you get a group of

812
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:31,819
S14: people together.

813
00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:32,140
S12: You're.

814
00:39:32,140 --> 00:39:34,739
S14: Going to tell them how wonderful your husband is, how

815
00:39:34,739 --> 00:39:38,219
S14: wonderful you're just going on and on. And he's over

816
00:39:38,219 --> 00:39:40,500
S14: there thinking, oh, honey, no, not in front of all

817
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:43,540
S14: these people. No, no, no, do it in private, honey.

818
00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:47,900
S5: And I guess the flip side could be true as well, Gary.

819
00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:50,020
S5: It's like, don't just tell me. Tell a few of

820
00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:51,020
S5: my friends.

821
00:39:51,060 --> 00:39:56,180
S14: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So understanding personality and how they had

822
00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:58,540
S14: it interfaces with the love languages again is going to

823
00:39:58,540 --> 00:40:02,180
S14: be a great source of help for couples who maybe

824
00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:04,580
S14: feel like, well, I've tried to speak their language, but

825
00:40:04,580 --> 00:40:06,700
S14: it doesn't seem to be working. You know this is

826
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:07,459
S14: going to help you.

827
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:11,660
S3: The book is called The Love Language That Matters Most.

828
00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:14,779
S3: Now I'm not I don't think that you're going to

829
00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:17,419
S3: say that one of those five is more important than

830
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:20,860
S3: the others, right? What is the love language that matters most?

831
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:22,420
S3: What's the cliffnotes?

832
00:40:22,660 --> 00:40:24,859
S14: Well, we make this very clear in the book. The

833
00:40:24,860 --> 00:40:28,100
S14: love language that matters most is the love language of

834
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:31,660
S14: your partner, the other person, not yours. Theirs.

835
00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:38,060
S5: And therein lies the rub for half of America. Right there.

836
00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:40,580
S14: Yeah. And, you know, because, you know, there are a

837
00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:43,060
S14: number of people who have read it and they've discussed it,

838
00:40:43,060 --> 00:40:46,500
S14: and each of them know each other's language, and then

839
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:49,060
S14: they'll say, well, you know my language, if you really

840
00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:52,620
S14: love me, you'd speak my language. You know, we're all self-centered,

841
00:40:52,620 --> 00:40:55,700
S14: but we can be selfish and just focus on you

842
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:57,219
S14: need to be loving me in the way I need

843
00:40:57,219 --> 00:41:00,140
S14: to be loved. You know, rather than thinking in terms

844
00:41:00,140 --> 00:41:02,899
S14: of I am going to love them in the way

845
00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:06,020
S14: they need to be loved. And so biblical love doesn't

846
00:41:06,020 --> 00:41:09,500
S14: start with a positive feeling. It starts with an attitude.

847
00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:12,940
S14: And the attitude of love is, I want to enrich

848
00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:15,380
S14: your life. I want to do whatever I can to

849
00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:18,020
S14: help you become the person you believe God wants you

850
00:41:18,020 --> 00:41:21,060
S14: to become. And we have an attitude of love. Then

851
00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:24,380
S14: the love languages and dialects and all of this helps

852
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:27,620
S14: us know how to meet one of their needs, and

853
00:41:27,620 --> 00:41:31,020
S14: that is the deep emotional need we have to feel loved.

854
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:34,620
S14: So it starts with an attitude, and then we choose

855
00:41:34,780 --> 00:41:36,459
S14: to learn how to speak it in a way that's

856
00:41:36,620 --> 00:41:38,259
S14: meaningful to the other person.

857
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:41,500
S5: All right, two questions. Doctor Gary Chapman, when did you

858
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:45,540
S5: learn your wife's love language and when did you learn

859
00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:47,580
S5: her dialect of that language?

860
00:41:47,780 --> 00:41:51,180
S14: Well, it was before I knew anything about love languages,

861
00:41:51,180 --> 00:41:53,700
S14: because when I first got married, I gave my wife

862
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:56,219
S14: words of affirmation. I wouldn't have called it that, but

863
00:41:56,219 --> 00:41:58,540
S14: I told her how nice she looked. I told her

864
00:41:58,540 --> 00:42:01,219
S14: how much I appreciated what she did. I told her

865
00:42:01,219 --> 00:42:03,420
S14: probably a dozen times a day. I love you, honey.

866
00:42:03,460 --> 00:42:06,180
S14: I am so glad I married you. I love you,

867
00:42:06,219 --> 00:42:10,140
S14: love you, love you. And one night she said to me,

868
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:14,460
S14: you keep on saying I love you. If you love me,

869
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:17,259
S14: why don't you help me? And I said, what do

870
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:20,100
S14: you mean? She said, well, you don't ever offer to

871
00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:22,820
S14: wash the dishes or vacuum the floors or clean the toilet.

872
00:42:22,860 --> 00:42:24,940
S14: I mean, you don't offer to do anything. And I

873
00:42:24,940 --> 00:42:28,620
S14: didn't say this, but what I was thinking. What are

874
00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:31,259
S14: you talking about? My mother did those things.

875
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:32,100
S12: Oh, boy.

876
00:42:34,540 --> 00:42:37,939
S14: We bring our history with us. Okay? Yeah. I've said

877
00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:39,779
S14: to guys a lot of times, hey, guys, you're not

878
00:42:39,780 --> 00:42:43,100
S14: married to your mama. Don't forget that, you know? But

879
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:46,779
S14: looking back on that, she was telling me her love language.

880
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:49,060
S14: We didn't use the term or anything like that. But

881
00:42:49,060 --> 00:42:52,580
S14: I said to her, well, honey, I don't mind washing dishes.

882
00:42:52,580 --> 00:42:54,980
S14: I just didn't know you wanted me to do that.

883
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:57,660
S14: And I said, I can vacuum the floors. I said,

884
00:42:57,660 --> 00:42:59,299
S14: I know how to do that. I said, I don't

885
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:01,060
S14: mind doing that. I said, I don't know how to

886
00:43:01,060 --> 00:43:03,339
S14: clean the toilet. And she said, I can teach you.

887
00:43:03,380 --> 00:43:03,900
S14: You know.

888
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:07,540
S5: Here's the scrubber.

889
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:08,540
S12: So that's what.

890
00:43:09,260 --> 00:43:12,660
S14: She was telling me exactly what she wanted, you know,

891
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:16,580
S14: the acts of service that that alleviate her her energy

892
00:43:16,580 --> 00:43:19,219
S14: and give her a little more time, you know? But

893
00:43:19,219 --> 00:43:21,940
S14: I didn't I wouldn't have had the concept, you know,

894
00:43:21,980 --> 00:43:25,180
S14: of love languages. And listen, people had good marriages before

895
00:43:25,219 --> 00:43:28,300
S14: I wrote the five love languages. Okay? But if they did,

896
00:43:28,580 --> 00:43:31,980
S14: what happened to us? Happened to them. They stumbled upon

897
00:43:32,020 --> 00:43:34,670
S14: what makes the other person feel loved. And they were

898
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:36,230
S14: they were speaking it. You know.

899
00:43:36,270 --> 00:43:38,509
S3: Doctor Gary Chapman, our guest right now, I want to

900
00:43:38,510 --> 00:43:41,670
S3: spike a couple of things for you. We mentioned this book,

901
00:43:41,710 --> 00:43:44,430
S3: the Love Language that Matters Most How to Personalize love.

902
00:43:44,430 --> 00:43:46,870
S3: So they really feel it. He mentioned the quiz. But

903
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:49,230
S3: also you need to know if you've been tracking with us.

904
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:53,070
S3: National Marriage Week. Doctor Chapman is one of the speakers

905
00:43:53,070 --> 00:43:55,750
S3: and on the panel, so if you've been following along

906
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:58,469
S3: or want to jump in with these broadcasts that you

907
00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:01,630
S3: can watch with your spouse, all of that in one

908
00:44:01,630 --> 00:44:07,190
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909
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910
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911
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:16,230
S5: Hey, families are tough no matter what. Can we get

912
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:17,390
S5: an amen on that one?

913
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:17,669
S2: Amen.

914
00:44:17,710 --> 00:44:21,270
S3: Absolutely. I mean, you take lots of different types of

915
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:25,430
S3: people with different personalities, even though they share some DNA

916
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:32,590
S3: in common. It's very, very difficult to navigate conflict and change.

917
00:44:32,989 --> 00:44:36,989
S5: Yeah. It's hard. It's hard. And then you take two

918
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:41,990
S5: families and you blend them together. Uffda. Uffda little Swedish

919
00:44:41,989 --> 00:44:46,109
S5: lingo for you this morning. It's tough, guys. And one

920
00:44:46,110 --> 00:44:49,430
S5: of the best guys out there nailing this topic right

921
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:52,589
S5: now is Ron Deal. And he's going to be here

922
00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:57,029
S5: with us. This. This is a growing population set isn't it?

923
00:44:57,270 --> 00:45:00,069
S3: Yeah. And he's got some real practical hope and encouragement

924
00:45:00,070 --> 00:45:02,510
S3: for the step family coming up.

925
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:06,830
S1: He was running from God, but God's love brought him home.

926
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:10,870
S1: Carl is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on

927
00:45:10,910 --> 00:45:11,989
S1: Moody Radio.

928
00:45:12,350 --> 00:45:16,230
S5: I have a heart for blended families like never before.

929
00:45:16,270 --> 00:45:19,190
S5: The amount of stories and the amount of people that

930
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:24,510
S5: are in the grace and the blessing of blended families,

931
00:45:24,510 --> 00:45:26,710
S5: and I really mean that for so many of them.

932
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:31,150
S5: It's such an amazing story of God's mercy and goodness

933
00:45:31,150 --> 00:45:33,870
S5: and kindness. But boy, it comes with challenges.

934
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:36,509
S3: Ali certainly does. And we've got a raw deal with

935
00:45:36,510 --> 00:45:40,230
S3: us right now. Best selling author, licensed marriage and family therapist.

936
00:45:40,270 --> 00:45:43,950
S3: He's the founder and president of Smart Stepfamilies. If you

937
00:45:43,950 --> 00:45:46,230
S3: had to whittle it down to just 1 or 2,

938
00:45:46,270 --> 00:45:50,550
S3: what would be the primary big buckets that a lot

939
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:55,910
S3: of stepfamily issues, concerns, problems even fall into? What would

940
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:56,470
S3: that be?

941
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:59,270
S15: If you dig down into the details, it's really hard

942
00:45:59,270 --> 00:46:01,870
S15: to nail it down to 1 or 2. So let

943
00:46:01,870 --> 00:46:06,750
S15: me go. Macro here, not realizing that the blueprints of

944
00:46:06,750 --> 00:46:10,270
S15: the family you think you're building are the biological family.

945
00:46:10,270 --> 00:46:15,030
S15: Nuclear blueprints that do not fit the blended family dynamic

946
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:20,270
S15: that you actually have. That probably has to be the biggest, um, issue.

947
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:22,989
S15: And now from in other words, think about if you

948
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:25,950
S15: got blueprints for the first house you ever owned and

949
00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:27,910
S15: you've ever owned a second house. Now you have a

950
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:30,870
S15: different house. It has a different makeup, different composition, different

951
00:46:31,110 --> 00:46:35,190
S15: materials go into it, different ones. One story, one's two stories, one's.

952
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:38,870
S15: You know, all of those things matter to how you

953
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:42,750
S15: build the family. But most people think they're building the

954
00:46:42,750 --> 00:46:46,629
S15: blueprints of the first family unit, and there's just some

955
00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:49,630
S15: upside down in blended families that works differently. And so

956
00:46:49,630 --> 00:46:51,750
S15: you constantly feel like you're hitting your head against the wall.

957
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:54,670
S15: You're actually not. You're just building a home that you

958
00:46:54,670 --> 00:46:57,270
S15: don't quite understand the blueprints for. So that's what we

959
00:46:57,270 --> 00:47:00,430
S15: do at FamilyLife blended is we give people blueprints for

960
00:47:00,430 --> 00:47:04,230
S15: the home they're actually building. And it's just, as Carl said,

961
00:47:04,270 --> 00:47:07,230
S15: there is beauty to be found. There is majesty. There

962
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:10,190
S15: is redemption to be found for people that have experienced

963
00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:12,710
S15: difficulty in their life finding themselves in a blended family,

964
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:14,390
S15: you just got to have the right blueprints.

965
00:47:14,910 --> 00:47:21,230
S5: If pre-marriage counseling and thought and strategy and wisdom and

966
00:47:21,310 --> 00:47:26,270
S5: on your knees is important. Pre Remarriage has got to

967
00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:27,150
S5: be a premium.

968
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:30,029
S15: Double. Double premium. And here's the good news and the

969
00:47:30,030 --> 00:47:32,750
S15: bad news. We know premarital counseling works. That's the good news.

970
00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:36,430
S15: Here's the bad news. 75% of couples getting married and

971
00:47:36,430 --> 00:47:40,029
S15: forming a blended family have no premarital counseling. And here's

972
00:47:40,030 --> 00:47:44,310
S15: even worse news. Of the 25% who do get some. Yeah, 75.

973
00:47:44,350 --> 00:47:47,830
S15: Nothing of the 25 who do get something, what they

974
00:47:47,830 --> 00:47:50,910
S15: typically get from their pastor. And I'm not blaming pastors

975
00:47:50,910 --> 00:47:53,029
S15: don't know what they don't know. What they get from

976
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:55,069
S15: the pastor is the same thing the pastor gives the

977
00:47:55,070 --> 00:47:57,910
S15: first time married couple. But remember, the blueprints are different

978
00:47:57,910 --> 00:48:02,030
S15: and so they end up adding to the the idea

979
00:48:02,270 --> 00:48:05,870
S15: that you're building the family you lost and you're not.

980
00:48:05,870 --> 00:48:10,230
S15: And so churches inadvertently, we have not upgraded pre-marital counseling

981
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:13,350
S15: in the church in 50 years. We have to do this.

982
00:48:13,350 --> 00:48:15,910
S15: Have you seen the latest Barna report? Uh, family life

983
00:48:15,950 --> 00:48:19,830
S15: helped contribute to this. Listen, this is stunning stuff. I've

984
00:48:19,830 --> 00:48:21,950
S15: been saying this now for 30 years, but we finally

985
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:26,069
S15: have good church data that we can trust, uh, to

986
00:48:26,110 --> 00:48:29,469
S15: to sink our teeth into 53% of parents in the

987
00:48:29,469 --> 00:48:33,230
S15: US with children under 18, 53% of the time, those

988
00:48:33,230 --> 00:48:35,750
S15: kids are in a complex family dynamic, meaning they're in

989
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:37,750
S15: a single parent home and they're going back and forth

990
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:39,990
S15: between mom and dad's house, and there's a stepparent somewhere,

991
00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:43,150
S15: or there's going to be a future stepparent somehow connected

992
00:48:43,150 --> 00:48:46,030
S15: to that child's life. They are not in biological family

993
00:48:46,030 --> 00:48:51,629
S15: nuclear homes, 53%. But here's the other stat 74% of

994
00:48:51,630 --> 00:48:55,710
S15: Gen Z children are living in complex family environments. This

995
00:48:55,989 --> 00:48:59,189
S15: cannot be something we ignore anymore. And this is talk

996
00:48:59,230 --> 00:49:01,190
S15: about this is huge.

997
00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:04,710
S5: This is plate shifting stuff, Ron.

998
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:07,229
S15: It is, it is. And I'm glad we're talking about

999
00:49:07,230 --> 00:49:10,350
S15: it here because, uh, we have answers. We have solutions.

1000
00:49:10,350 --> 00:49:13,589
S15: We have good information to support families and to help

1001
00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:16,390
S15: local churches support them. One of the things our ministry

1002
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:19,910
S15: does this coming April 18th, a free live stream churches

1003
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:23,239
S15: around the world can host this for nothing. Put as

1004
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,520
S15: many people in the room as you can for nothing.

1005
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,360
S15: Couples can sit at home and be a part of

1006
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,640
S15: this live stream. Uh, we do this every year, and

1007
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,760
S15: more and more people are going, you know what? We

1008
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,319
S15: we don't know what to offer. We don't know how

1009
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,160
S15: to do this. Let's be a part of Blended and Blessed.

1010
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,319
S15: That happens in April. There's all kinds of opportunities for

1011
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,680
S15: people to tie in to what's available.

1012
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,720
S3: Ron, what are some of the main things you mentioned

1013
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,640
S3: a couple times that you're building a different house, and

1014
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:54,080
S3: sometimes pastors mistakenly give blueprint instructions like they're building the

1015
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,960
S3: first house. Give me some key distinctions that maybe often

1016
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,040
S3: get overlooked.

1017
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,719
S15: Here's a classic one. All right, future stepdad, uh, you're

1018
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,600
S15: going to come into this home. And what these kids

1019
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,719
S15: need is a strong father. So everything we've taught you about, uh,

1020
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,920
S15: being a strong man, being a strong husband, and being

1021
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,120
S15: the father of their of their in their household. That's

1022
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,920
S15: what you got to do wrong. We know from tons

1023
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,719
S15: of research that when a stepfather tries to, I call

1024
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,280
S15: this erase and replace the biological dad in the children's lives.

1025
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,400
S15: What happens is they erase and replace him. It undoes

1026
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,000
S15: everything he's trying to build. Rather, Ephesians six. Don't exasperate

1027
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,759
S15: your children. Well, you can exacerbate your stepchildren in a

1028
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,600
S15: heartbeat when you try to assert authority and relationship in

1029
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,719
S15: a in a position in their life that you have

1030
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,000
S15: not yet earned. I mean, nobody in their right mind

1031
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,719
S15: would say, oh, we got new neighbors. Let me go

1032
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,480
S15: over there and parent their children the way I want

1033
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,760
S15: to parent them. Nobody in their right mind would recommend that.

1034
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,680
S15: And yet we inadvertently make that same recommendation to a

1035
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,680
S15: lot of people. It's just because we don't know the

1036
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
S15: Upside Down. We don't understand that there's a different set

1037
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,120
S15: of blueprints, and there's a different way to form those

1038
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,960
S15: relationships a safe, respectful relationship in which children can eventually

1039
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,120
S15: then receive the authority of the new father figure in

1040
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,480
S15: their household. But that always comes with limits. It's always

1041
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,200
S15: in light of their relationship with their biological dad, living

1042
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,120
S15: or deceased. I mean, these are the kind of nuances

1043
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,080
S15: that we help people understand and really make a difference.

1044
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,879
S5: You know, Ron, I don't want to I'm in no

1045
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,000
S5: way diminishing what you're doing now. You're bracing yourself. Oh.

1046
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,440
S5: Going great. Oh, great. Um, I told this to Dennis

1047
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,839
S5: Rainey 8 or 9 years into our 11 year run

1048
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,640
S5: of with family life and and my contention with just normal, uh,

1049
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,359
S5: biological first run families. Right. Is that, you know, if

1050
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,440
S5: we give them all these, um, little trinkets of ideas

1051
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,920
S5: and strategies without there being the the heart of humility

1052
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,000
S5: teachability the power of the gospel, the power of Christ.

1053
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,600
S5: I'm not trying to oversimplify it. I'm actually trying to

1054
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,799
S5: build a base here. You can tell me if I'm

1055
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,920
S5: all wet. Isn't there something about the the personhood of

1056
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,640
S5: the mom and dad that are stepping into this family,

1057
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,280
S5: that that makes it. That's the basis that we're building

1058
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,839
S5: off of. You know what I'm saying here, Ron?

1059
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,000
S15: Yes, I know exactly what you're saying. So my recent

1060
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,120
S15: book is for all couples. My wife and I wrote

1061
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,400
S15: it with our marriage mentor and counselor, the Mindful Marriage. Um,

1062
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,840
S15: we hit on this really hard. Humility is a massive,

1063
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,680
S15: important topic for all relationships. Just real quick. First Peter

1064
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,799
S15: five five put on humility because God opposes the proud

1065
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,839
S15: and gives grace to the humble. And we say, and

1066
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,839
S15: so do spouses and so do children. If you come

1067
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,799
S15: to your spouse or your children in pride, they will

1068
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,279
S15: oppose you. This is the order in which God has

1069
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,320
S15: determined relationships vertically with him and horizontally in the planet.

1070
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,719
S15: So all you got to do is come in with attitude.

1071
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,920
S15: And I know in my way the highway and you

1072
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,920
S15: will not have children who want to follow that. You

1073
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,000
S15: will not have a spouse who really trusts you deeply

1074
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,720
S15: with their heart. However, step in with humility. And just

1075
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,840
S15: as God offers grace, so do spouses. So do children,

1076
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,120
S15: so do constituents, by the way. So from a political standpoint,

1077
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,399
S15: so do congregants. In a church leadership standpoint, humility is

1078
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,600
S15: the thing that invites people to go with you. But

1079
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,520
S15: humility is so humility is not me contending with you

1080
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,719
S15: to try to dominate and have power over. Instead, humility

1081
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,760
S15: is me saying, God, I need you. I'm desperate for

1082
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,960
S15: your guidance and leadership and and conviction in my life.

1083
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,680
S15: Somebody who exudes that in an authentic way will have

1084
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,520
S15: lots of people who follow, who understand, who want to help,

1085
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,839
S15: who want to support, want to jump in. We all

1086
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,160
S15: of a sudden we have an incredible amount of grace

1087
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,200
S15: for one another. This is also how human family relationships

1088
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,120
S15: work best. And so when it comes down to where's

1089
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,680
S15: my heart? Constantly bowing in humility to God and putting

1090
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,279
S15: on humility as it relates to you and others in

1091
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:09,800
S15: my life?

1092
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,400
S3: Ron Diehl, our guest right now with Smart Stepfamilies. How

1093
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,960
S3: much do stepfamilies, particularly in the church? Um, you know,

1094
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,600
S3: there's an element of shame that that can come with

1095
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,680
S3: blended families. We we know that God's design for a

1096
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,319
S3: one man, one woman for life union. Uh, because of

1097
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,879
S3: sin gets disrupted. Whether it's the the sin of divorce,

1098
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,799
S3: whether it is the sin of death. I mean, the

1099
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,080
S3: loss of of living in a fallen world, the loss

1100
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,440
S3: of a spouse. And therefore, you have a single parent

1101
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,400
S3: who remarries. How do you deal help families work through

1102
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,120
S3: what can sometimes feel like a lesser than arrangement?

1103
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,759
S15: Yeah, it's an excellent question, and it's an important one

1104
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,440
S15: because a lot of people do feel that spiritual shame.

1105
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,960
S15: And so they if they walk into church at all,

1106
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,480
S15: which often they don't, uh, if they do walk in,

1107
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,520
S15: they hide because they don't want to face the judgment

1108
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,160
S15: and shame from other people in, in, in some way.

1109
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,760
S15: This is a unique situation. Divorce and remarriage does offer, uh,

1110
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,760
S15: a position, somebody to have to face a certain kind

1111
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,080
S15: of judgment. But in another sense, this is a really

1112
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,200
S15: important question. This is no different than any other sin

1113
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,200
S15: that brings anybody into the local church. It is a

1114
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,240
S15: hospital and everybody there, it may not be divorce and remarriage.

1115
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,480
S15: You may not have been unfaithful to a previous spouse,

1116
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,280
S15: but you got sin. And in that sense, we are

1117
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,640
S15: all the same at the foot of the cross. There

1118
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,799
S15: is really no difference. We are falling at the feet

1119
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,240
S15: of our Savior saying, please, that's the humility piece. Please.

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00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,520
S15: You know, save me, make me more than I was.

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00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,759
S15: You know, lead me beyond who I was and and

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00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,280
S15: forgive me for what I have done. That's the posture

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00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,959
S15: of every believer. And so in that sense, there is

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00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:04,239
S15: no difference. When we come together as fellow believers, we

1125
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,440
S15: are constantly falling on the grace of God.

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00:56:07,450 --> 00:56:10,210
S5: Are you seeing stats turn around because the stat line

1127
00:56:10,210 --> 00:56:12,770
S5: on second and third and fourth go arounds and marriage

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00:56:12,810 --> 00:56:13,890
S5: ain't good. Ron.

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00:56:14,090 --> 00:56:17,690
S15: Yeah, no. Um, listen, if left to your own devices

1130
00:56:17,690 --> 00:56:21,450
S15: and you keep trying to build that wrong blueprint for

1131
00:56:21,530 --> 00:56:25,930
S15: your family and materials and resources into a family that

1132
00:56:25,930 --> 00:56:28,210
S15: doesn't even exist, you're going to have a lot of

1133
00:56:28,210 --> 00:56:32,210
S15: frustration and disillusionment and probably more divorce re divorce is

1134
00:56:32,210 --> 00:56:35,810
S15: really what that is, but have the right blueprint and

1135
00:56:35,810 --> 00:56:39,650
S15: patience and a persistence and a trust in God walking

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00:56:39,650 --> 00:56:45,129
S15: with others. My goodness. Um, families can do exceedingly well.

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00:56:45,130 --> 00:56:48,730
S15: Here's the good news. Blended families done well. They are

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00:56:48,730 --> 00:56:51,730
S15: redemptive organisms in the life of adults and children who

1139
00:56:51,730 --> 00:56:54,530
S15: have already been through something hard in their life. The

1140
00:56:54,530 --> 00:56:58,290
S15: the the wonderfulness of the new family can be a

1141
00:56:58,330 --> 00:57:01,489
S15: healing balm in their world and in their life. However,

1142
00:57:01,610 --> 00:57:06,770
S15: blended families done poorly just adds more stress, chaos, difficulty

1143
00:57:06,770 --> 00:57:10,650
S15: and pain to the people who have already experienced some pain.

1144
00:57:11,250 --> 00:57:13,570
S15: It's all about how you go about it, and that's

1145
00:57:13,570 --> 00:57:18,050
S15: why we're so gung ho on bringing the right blueprints

1146
00:57:18,050 --> 00:57:19,010
S15: to the right people.

1147
00:57:19,290 --> 00:57:21,290
S3: Ron Diehl, our guest right now, if you want more,

1148
00:57:21,290 --> 00:57:23,970
S3: we're going to point you to his website. Just text deal,

1149
00:57:24,890 --> 00:57:29,890
S3: deal to 800 555 7898. We'll get you the direct link.

1150
00:57:29,890 --> 00:57:34,210
S3: Just text deal to 800 555 7898.

1151
00:57:34,570 --> 00:57:39,130
S1: A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke, Ali is

1152
00:57:39,130 --> 00:57:42,770
S1: in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

1153
00:57:43,290 --> 00:57:46,410
S5: We did not forget it is that time of the day.

1154
00:57:46,410 --> 00:57:47,490
S5: That time of the hour.

1155
00:57:48,170 --> 00:57:51,690
S1: Making herself laugh no matter who joins her. It's time

1156
00:57:51,690 --> 00:57:53,770
S1: for Ali thinks it's funny.

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00:57:55,610 --> 00:57:59,970
S3: Little Valentine's Day theme for your jokes this morning as

1158
00:57:59,970 --> 00:58:03,770
S3: you're picking out that Valentine's gift for that special someone.

1159
00:58:04,210 --> 00:58:08,730
S3: What's one flower you should never give? On Valentine's Day.

1160
00:58:08,770 --> 00:58:12,970
S3: Roses are great. Uh, let's see what other lilies are. Great.

1161
00:58:12,970 --> 00:58:14,330
S3: But this flower never give on.

1162
00:58:14,890 --> 00:58:15,210
S5: Man, I.

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00:58:15,210 --> 00:58:15,770
S12: Don't know, but.

1164
00:58:15,810 --> 00:58:16,650
S5: This is timely.

1165
00:58:16,930 --> 00:58:22,130
S3: Cauliflower. Do not give your date. Cauliflower. You better not

1166
00:58:22,210 --> 00:58:25,130
S3: on Valentine's Day. Next up for you.

1167
00:58:25,170 --> 00:58:26,050
S12: That's a dad joke.

1168
00:58:26,290 --> 00:58:29,610
S3: Yeah, it's a classic dad joke. Uh, got a little, uh,

1169
00:58:29,650 --> 00:58:30,890
S3: farm joke for you?

1170
00:58:31,050 --> 00:58:31,450
S12: Yes.

1171
00:58:31,490 --> 00:58:32,050
S2: Come on.

1172
00:58:32,450 --> 00:58:35,850
S3: Taking, uh, taking to the pigs. What did one pig

1173
00:58:36,370 --> 00:58:40,490
S3: go and say to the other pig on Valentine's Day?

1174
00:58:40,530 --> 00:58:41,090
S2: What's that?

1175
00:58:42,090 --> 00:58:44,050
S3: Don't go breaking my heart.

1176
00:58:45,970 --> 00:58:49,370
S12: Ah! That's good.

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00:58:49,890 --> 00:58:57,810
S3: Text jokes to 800 555 7898. Jokes to 800 555 7898.

1178
00:58:58,010 --> 00:59:01,090
S12: Oh, so good, so good.

1179
00:59:01,130 --> 00:59:02,450
S5: So good, so good.