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So 33 00:01:24,430 --> 00:01:27,390 S1: either way, thank you in advance for prayerfully considering the 34 00:01:27,390 --> 00:01:30,669 S1: opportunity to financially support in the market with Janet partial 35 00:01:30,670 --> 00:01:32,710 S1: and keeping it on the air now, I hope you 36 00:01:32,709 --> 00:01:34,870 S1: hear something that will encourage you to get out and 37 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:37,830 S1: influence and occupy in the marketplace of ideas. 38 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:46,990 S2: Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. Today's program 39 00:01:46,990 --> 00:01:49,430 S2: is where Janet and her husband, Craig, take some of 40 00:01:49,430 --> 00:01:52,630 S2: the stories making headlines this week and offer their insight 41 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:55,510 S2: and analysis. Before they get started, let's take a quick 42 00:01:55,510 --> 00:01:57,670 S2: look back at some of the highlights from the week. 43 00:02:03,140 --> 00:02:05,500 S3: She throws the bucket of water on the witch and 44 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:09,300 S3: she goes, I'm melting, I'm melting. She goes down to nothing. 45 00:02:10,020 --> 00:02:12,900 S3: And then you think that all of these minions are 46 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:15,580 S3: going to beat them up? And no, that's not what happens. 47 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:19,660 S3: They say, thank you. You have freed us all. And 48 00:02:19,660 --> 00:02:21,299 S3: the Lord began to speak to me. He said, when 49 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:24,380 S3: you face what you face and you're blessed as Abraham 50 00:02:24,380 --> 00:02:27,180 S3: was blessed was to be a blessing. When you face 51 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:29,419 S3: that insecurity or you face that pride, or you face 52 00:02:29,419 --> 00:02:32,020 S3: that addiction or that thing that's been giving you the 53 00:02:32,020 --> 00:02:34,620 S3: comfort that keeps destroying you when you face it and 54 00:02:34,620 --> 00:02:37,300 S3: you destroy it, not only do you get set free, 55 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:40,100 S3: but everyone around you begins to get free because they 56 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:41,859 S3: begin to see the way you walk. 57 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:46,540 S4: The Church of England Anglican had become outnumbered by what 58 00:02:46,540 --> 00:02:53,340 S4: was called the dissenters denominations the Baptists, the Presbyterians, the Congregationalists, etc. 59 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:57,720 S4: so diversity, yes, but all people of the book and 60 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,360 S4: John Adams. John Adams observed as he looked back from 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,480 S4: his old age at this extraordinary event that had happened 62 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,600 S4: in Philadelphia with this drafting, this creation of the Declaration 63 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,080 S4: of Independence. And as he surveyed from the past, those 64 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,560 S4: men that he had served with who had produced that 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,960 S4: remarkable document that is laced with the language of faith. 66 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,880 S5: It's a battle. And we've all got to take responsibility 67 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,200 S5: for our own thoughts. And God is giving us the 68 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,839 S5: power to do that. Current estimates. The average person is 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,560 S5: on their phone three hours a day. Thousands of touch 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,600 S5: points every day. However, we say I can't spend 30 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,600 S5: minutes renewing my mind, but I can spend three hours 72 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,960 S5: scrolling on my phone. And I just thought the other day, 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,520 S5: what if we reversed that? And a Christian spent 30 74 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,400 S5: minutes on their phone on a given day, and the 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,840 S5: other 2.5 hours in the Word of God every day. 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,150 S5: Our lives would look radically different. The world would look 77 00:03:57,150 --> 00:03:58,110 S5: radically different. 78 00:03:58,670 --> 00:04:00,990 S6: My husband's a spiritual giant, not me. Don't ask me 79 00:04:00,990 --> 00:04:04,630 S6: to do that. But. But, Janet. God, I felt like 80 00:04:04,630 --> 00:04:07,790 S6: God said to me. Maggie, I will supply everything you lack. 81 00:04:07,790 --> 00:04:09,910 S6: And I said to God then, Lord, you know that's 82 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:12,230 S6: about 90% of what's going to take. I am not 83 00:04:12,230 --> 00:04:15,550 S6: a Bible study teacher, but we started with fear and 84 00:04:15,550 --> 00:04:17,670 S6: trembling with one small study. I used to come home 85 00:04:17,670 --> 00:04:20,830 S6: from that study just soaked in perspiration. And yet out 86 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:23,350 S6: of that, other churches began to say, well, how do 87 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:26,990 S6: we start something new at a historically old church where 88 00:04:27,029 --> 00:04:30,029 S6: nothing has existed? And because of that, I was asked 89 00:04:30,029 --> 00:04:34,070 S6: to join this regional association of evangelicals. And Janet saying 90 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:36,510 S6: yes to that calling changed my life. 91 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:40,710 S2: To hear the full interviews from any of those guests 92 00:04:40,750 --> 00:04:43,950 S2: go to In the Market with Janet Parshall and click 93 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:47,550 S2: on Past Programs. Here's some other stories making headlines this week. 94 00:04:48,270 --> 00:04:51,830 S7: General Mills shares fell more than 8% after the cereal 95 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:55,460 S7: maker cut its annual core sales and profit forecast. 96 00:04:55,500 --> 00:04:58,820 S8: Former South Korean President Yoon Suk yeol has been sentenced 97 00:04:58,860 --> 00:05:01,940 S8: to life in prison for his brief imposition of martial 98 00:05:01,940 --> 00:05:04,060 S8: law in December 2020 for. 99 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:06,900 S9: At least four people are dead after a multiple vehicle 100 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:11,060 S9: pileup on Interstate 25 in Colorado. More than 30 vehicles 101 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:13,620 S9: were involved in the collision. After powerful winds up to 102 00:05:13,660 --> 00:05:18,220 S9: 61mph kicked up dust and made visibility near zero. 103 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:21,340 S2: Janet and Craig have lots to share, and they'll put 104 00:05:21,339 --> 00:05:23,860 S2: the first story on the table when we return. To 105 00:05:23,860 --> 00:05:26,500 S2: get more information or to download the podcast of any 106 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:29,460 S2: of the interviews, go to. In the market with Janet Parshall. 107 00:05:47,660 --> 00:05:49,980 S1: How does our view of God get distorted? Do you 108 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:52,529 S1: struggle with feeling close to God? Well, that's why I've 109 00:05:52,529 --> 00:05:55,490 S1: chosen secure how to have a healthy attachment to God 110 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:57,970 S1: as this month's truth tool. Discover how to counter the 111 00:05:57,970 --> 00:06:00,770 S1: lies about the truth of God's character. Ask for your 112 00:06:00,770 --> 00:06:02,930 S1: copy of secure. When you give a gift of any 113 00:06:02,930 --> 00:06:07,770 S1: amount to in the market, call 877. 58 that's 877 114 00:06:08,170 --> 00:06:11,210 S1: 58 or go to in the market with Janet Parshall. 115 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:16,290 S1: Happy Friday to you friends. So glad you're with us. Mr. 116 00:06:16,290 --> 00:06:19,089 S1: Craig is with me as he's apt to do every Friday, 117 00:06:19,330 --> 00:06:21,410 S1: and I'm so glad he is, because what we do 118 00:06:21,450 --> 00:06:24,690 S1: is we practice, if I may, applied Christianity taking the 119 00:06:24,690 --> 00:06:26,849 S1: whole truth of the whole gospel, applying it to the 120 00:06:26,850 --> 00:06:29,370 S1: whole world around us. And so we've got a big 121 00:06:29,370 --> 00:06:31,250 S1: stack of stories that we take a look at as 122 00:06:31,250 --> 00:06:33,850 S1: many as time affords, and then we look at them 123 00:06:33,850 --> 00:06:37,409 S1: through the lens of Scripture. We see things a different 124 00:06:37,410 --> 00:06:39,610 S1: way from people who do not yet know the Lord 125 00:06:39,610 --> 00:06:42,890 S1: as their personal Savior. Your heart is transformed, your mind 126 00:06:42,930 --> 00:06:45,410 S1: is renewed. The people who live in darkness, which is 127 00:06:45,410 --> 00:06:47,650 S1: where we were before we came to faith in Christ, 128 00:06:47,690 --> 00:06:50,670 S1: have seen a great light. So we see things in 129 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:53,310 S1: a markedly different way that should give us hope, that 130 00:06:53,310 --> 00:06:55,589 S1: should give us calm, that should give us a joyous 131 00:06:55,589 --> 00:06:59,870 S1: expectation of Christ's glorious return. Note to file. Maybe the 132 00:06:59,870 --> 00:07:01,910 S1: best thing you'll hear all day. This is not as 133 00:07:01,910 --> 00:07:03,950 S1: good as it gets. The best is yet to come. 134 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:07,310 S1: But in the meantime, we are called in this temporal 135 00:07:07,310 --> 00:07:10,550 S1: world to be citizens, to influence and occupy, to let 136 00:07:10,590 --> 00:07:13,070 S1: our light so shine, to live such good lives among 137 00:07:13,070 --> 00:07:15,390 S1: the prophets. And not only that, but to seek the 138 00:07:15,390 --> 00:07:17,670 S1: welfare of the city. So we talk about these things, 139 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:21,750 S1: because out there in the marketplace is where that tribe is, 140 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:23,630 S1: that tribe that you and I are called to go 141 00:07:23,630 --> 00:07:26,430 S1: to and share the love of Jesus Christ. It's important 142 00:07:26,430 --> 00:07:28,870 S1: we understand where they're coming from. It's important we understand 143 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:31,470 S1: what they're talking about. But it's even more important that 144 00:07:31,470 --> 00:07:33,230 S1: you and I are ready and prepared to give a 145 00:07:33,230 --> 00:07:35,550 S1: reason for the hope that resides within us. So here 146 00:07:35,550 --> 00:07:37,670 S1: we go. We go round robin. We talk about a 147 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:39,230 S1: lot of topics. We're going to start with this issue 148 00:07:39,230 --> 00:07:42,550 S1: of anti-Semitism. By the way do you remember. And I 149 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:44,390 S1: don't think it's prescient just because Craig and I live 150 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:46,750 S1: in the DC area. But this was a story that 151 00:07:46,750 --> 00:07:50,460 S1: made national headlines. A young, precious couple. They were at 152 00:07:50,460 --> 00:07:54,740 S1: an event at the Capital Jewish Museum in downtown Washington, D.C. 153 00:07:54,740 --> 00:07:59,140 S1: they were standing outside, uh, last May. They were actually 154 00:07:59,140 --> 00:08:01,580 S1: on their way to Israel where he was going to 155 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:05,940 S1: propose to her. Precious, precious couple didn't do anything. Simply 156 00:08:05,940 --> 00:08:09,500 S1: standing outside this museum. And along comes a man and 157 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:13,739 S1: shoots and kills them both. He's a 31 year old 158 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:17,660 S1: Elias Rodriguez from Chicago. He has been charged in a 159 00:08:17,660 --> 00:08:22,420 S1: 13 count superseding indictment that was unsealed Wednesday of this 160 00:08:22,420 --> 00:08:27,140 S1: week in U.S. District Court with four counts of terrorism 161 00:08:27,380 --> 00:08:31,300 S1: while armed and a federal aggravating factor for substantial planning 162 00:08:31,300 --> 00:08:34,699 S1: and premeditation to commit an act of terrorism. All of that, 163 00:08:34,700 --> 00:08:36,780 S1: according to a news release that came out of the U.S. 164 00:08:36,780 --> 00:08:40,780 S1: Attorney's office in D.C.. He was previously indicted on a 165 00:08:40,780 --> 00:08:44,740 S1: hate crime and murder charge in this May 21st shooting 166 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:47,490 S1: of the 30 and 26 year old, both who were 167 00:08:47,490 --> 00:08:50,770 S1: staffers for the Israeli embassy. By the way, it was 168 00:08:50,929 --> 00:08:53,650 S1: at an inaugural, at an arraignment, rather, in September and 169 00:08:53,650 --> 00:08:56,330 S1: an earlier indictment, Rodriguez pleaded not guilty to all counts. 170 00:08:56,330 --> 00:08:57,970 S1: I don't know how you can do that, but he did. 171 00:08:58,210 --> 00:09:00,970 S1: Several of the charges filed against Rodriguez carry a maximum 172 00:09:00,970 --> 00:09:05,929 S1: penalty of death or life imprisonment. Um, and it's interesting 173 00:09:05,929 --> 00:09:10,650 S1: because the attorney general or the state's attorney for Washington, D.C., 174 00:09:10,690 --> 00:09:13,209 S1: said in a memo she sent out, my office will 175 00:09:13,210 --> 00:09:15,890 S1: not rest in our efforts to hold Elias Rodriguez accountable 176 00:09:15,890 --> 00:09:18,610 S1: for this horrific and target of an act of terror against, 177 00:09:18,610 --> 00:09:20,730 S1: and she names the two people that were killed and 178 00:09:20,730 --> 00:09:24,570 S1: our Jewish community. These additional terrorism related charges carry a 179 00:09:24,570 --> 00:09:28,130 S1: mandatory life sentence under D.C. code, while also reflecting the 180 00:09:28,130 --> 00:09:32,530 S1: reality that this was an act of terrorism. So that's 181 00:09:32,530 --> 00:09:34,410 S1: an important update. We're going to watch that the wheels 182 00:09:34,410 --> 00:09:37,210 S1: of justice grind very slow. This event happens May of 183 00:09:37,210 --> 00:09:40,050 S1: last year. Here we are in February and the charges 184 00:09:40,050 --> 00:09:42,329 S1: are still being stacked up against him. But Craig, before 185 00:09:42,490 --> 00:09:45,130 S1: I go to a story here that's going to speak 186 00:09:45,130 --> 00:09:49,520 S1: into this issue. I find it, um, not surprising. And actually, 187 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,200 S1: I'm very glad that the hef now of terrorism charges 188 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,520 S1: are being added to this. They were targeted because they 189 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,680 S1: were Jews. Let there be no ambiguity on this. 190 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,960 S10: Yeah. There's no question, uh, that anti-Semitism, both the rhetorical 191 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,679 S10: kind and the criminal kind, uh, is rampaging out of control. 192 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,960 S10: And the question is, what do we do about it? 193 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,320 S10: It's a fact. And, uh, these reports are not ending. 194 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:19,160 S10: They are increasing, and the incidents are becoming more troubling because, uh, 195 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,760 S10: if you look at history, if you look at the 196 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,280 S10: hatred that was generated for political control purposes, but also 197 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,560 S10: because of an ideological bias against the Jewish population in 198 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,040 S10: Nazi Germany, it started with insult, and then it moved 199 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:41,079 S10: to discrimination, and then it moved to, um, uh, attacking 200 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:47,100 S10: business and boycotts and smashing glass pane glass windows at 201 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:52,420 S10: Jewish shops. And then it ended up in, uh, official deportation. 202 00:10:52,420 --> 00:10:54,740 S10: And then it ended up, as we well know, in 203 00:10:54,740 --> 00:10:55,540 S10: the Holocaust. 204 00:10:55,580 --> 00:10:59,020 S1: Yeah. Unbelievable. So we're going to talk about anti-Semitism because 205 00:10:59,020 --> 00:11:01,060 S1: it is a sin. It is an absolute horrific sin. 206 00:11:01,059 --> 00:11:03,220 S1: And by the way, Craig, just give me a 32nd 207 00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:07,740 S1: take on this. To me it's like splitting hairs. You 208 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:10,940 S1: you can say I am opposed to the nation of Israel. Uh, 209 00:11:10,940 --> 00:11:15,060 S1: but I'm not an anti-Semite. Semite. The nation of Israel 210 00:11:15,059 --> 00:11:18,300 S1: is called the Jewish state. You cannot say the. By 211 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:20,700 S1: the way. And I love the way our pastor put it. 212 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:23,220 S1: I think it was spot on. Uh, I am a 213 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:26,740 S1: United States citizen, and I am proud of my country. 214 00:11:26,780 --> 00:11:29,620 S1: Doesn't mean that I approve of everything they do. And 215 00:11:29,620 --> 00:11:32,300 S1: because I don't approve of everything that do, they do. 216 00:11:32,500 --> 00:11:35,740 S1: That doesn't make me unpatriotic. Right. So, and I take 217 00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:37,540 S1: umbrage with some of the things that the Supreme Court 218 00:11:37,580 --> 00:11:39,179 S1: in Israel has handed down. And there are things that 219 00:11:39,179 --> 00:11:41,140 S1: get passed in the Knesset. I don't agree with it. 220 00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:44,330 S1: That doesn't mitigate the directive out of God's word that 221 00:11:44,330 --> 00:11:47,890 S1: these people were chosen by God to bring salvation into 222 00:11:47,890 --> 00:11:52,650 S1: the world. The Jews brought us salvation. We Gentiles have 223 00:11:52,650 --> 00:11:55,810 S1: been grafted on to the root of Jesse. Salvation comes 224 00:11:55,809 --> 00:11:57,650 S1: by way of the Jews, to the Jews first and 225 00:11:57,650 --> 00:11:59,810 S1: then the Gentiles. If you don't believe me, just go 226 00:11:59,809 --> 00:12:01,330 S1: to the New Testament. Where did Paul go on all 227 00:12:01,330 --> 00:12:04,089 S1: his missionary journeys? He went to the synagogues first, and 228 00:12:04,090 --> 00:12:05,890 S1: then he went to go preach to the Gentiles. 229 00:12:05,970 --> 00:12:08,449 S10: Basically he said, I'm a Jew. Jew, right? He said, 230 00:12:08,490 --> 00:12:11,850 S10: I here is here are my Jewish credentials. And he 231 00:12:11,850 --> 00:12:14,130 S10: laid them out in his epistles, and he laid them 232 00:12:14,130 --> 00:12:16,329 S10: out in his preaching in the book of acts. And 233 00:12:16,330 --> 00:12:19,450 S10: he made it very clear. But his mission was, uh, 234 00:12:19,770 --> 00:12:23,090 S10: to go to the Gentiles. That's where he felt God 235 00:12:23,090 --> 00:12:26,570 S10: was going to have him build, uh, all these new 236 00:12:26,570 --> 00:12:33,370 S10: churches and evangelize the non-Jewish, um, population in the Middle 237 00:12:33,370 --> 00:12:35,730 S10: East and then in Europe and so forth, uh, as 238 00:12:35,730 --> 00:12:41,480 S10: well as Rome. So, uh, Jesus was a Jew. Anyone 239 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,080 S10: who tries to tell you that he wasn't a Jew, um, 240 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,800 S10: has not read the New Testament. There are four Gospels. 241 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,880 S10: Read any one of them, and you will find out 242 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:55,200 S10: Jesus's credentials as a Jew. So, uh, it's important. And 243 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,520 S10: I think your point was well taken. At the beginning, 244 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,280 S10: the nation of Israel was finally recognized by by the way, 245 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,480 S10: it wasn't created in the 20th century by the United Nations. No, 246 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:11,319 S10: simply its legitimacy as a legitimate nation state was recognized. 247 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,040 S10: Great point. And the four things that need to be 248 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,640 S10: proven under international law at that time and at the 249 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,160 S10: present time, all were met. Number one, it was identifiable people. 250 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,760 S10: Number two, it was an identifiable tie of those people 251 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,840 S10: to an identifiable land. Number three, they had to have 252 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:34,640 S10: some kind of, uh, organizational government that will legitimate. And fourthly, 253 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,040 S10: they had to be able to engage in diplomacy with 254 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,110 S10: other nations and interactions with other nation states. All of 255 00:13:42,110 --> 00:13:46,830 S10: those were true in mid-century. 20th century. They're more than 256 00:13:46,830 --> 00:13:49,750 S10: true right now as a nation. But that doesn't mean 257 00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:54,710 S10: that they're. Um, governmental and governance decisions are always perfect 258 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:59,709 S10: or even. Right. But the people of Israel form the 259 00:13:59,710 --> 00:14:03,230 S10: nation of Israel. And biblically, you can't read the Old 260 00:14:03,270 --> 00:14:07,670 S10: Testament without recognizing that. And then you can't read the 261 00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:10,910 S10: New Testament, which, by the way, if you read the Gospels, 262 00:14:11,070 --> 00:14:16,950 S10: Jesus refers back to the Old Testament writings consistently. Jesus then, 263 00:14:17,390 --> 00:14:21,950 S10: after his resurrection, commissions specifically eyeball to eyeball. The resurrected 264 00:14:21,950 --> 00:14:26,989 S10: Christ gives the commission to Paul to carry his message, 265 00:14:26,990 --> 00:14:32,910 S10: Jesus's message, and Paul himself as a Jew. Um, makes 266 00:14:32,910 --> 00:14:35,150 S10: it clear in the book of Romans that God has 267 00:14:35,150 --> 00:14:38,450 S10: not forsaken the Jewish people or the nation of Israel 268 00:14:38,610 --> 00:14:40,410 S10: as a nation and as a people. 269 00:14:40,570 --> 00:14:43,290 S1: So let me put a question that's often asked by 270 00:14:43,290 --> 00:14:45,930 S1: people who are anti-Semites, but they're trying to hide their 271 00:14:45,930 --> 00:14:50,130 S1: anti-Semitic perspectives. And then the last the question, in fact, 272 00:14:50,130 --> 00:14:52,530 S1: it's interesting, I've talked about this with Doctor Michael Redlich, 273 00:14:52,530 --> 00:14:54,050 S1: and we'll talk about it again, I'm sure. But I 274 00:14:54,050 --> 00:14:56,810 S1: want people to recognize the ruse, the strawman arguments that 275 00:14:56,810 --> 00:14:59,650 S1: are out there. So who is the Jew? I mean, 276 00:14:59,690 --> 00:15:02,490 S1: so you talk about the descendants of Abraham, but who 277 00:15:02,490 --> 00:15:04,890 S1: is the Jew today? In fact, I just saw a 278 00:15:04,890 --> 00:15:07,210 S1: recent interview that shall remain nameless because he doesn't need 279 00:15:07,210 --> 00:15:10,610 S1: any more free publicity that he said, maybe we should 280 00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:13,410 S1: do DNA tests to find out if the people who 281 00:15:13,410 --> 00:15:15,290 S1: live in Israel are, in fact, Jews. 282 00:15:15,330 --> 00:15:20,770 S10: Now, what does that remind you of? In fact, before DNA, um, uh, 283 00:15:20,770 --> 00:15:25,050 S10: during the day, the horrendous days of human slavery on 284 00:15:25,050 --> 00:15:31,970 S10: this continent, uh, if you were any percent of an African, uh, heritage, 285 00:15:32,170 --> 00:15:35,890 S10: you were deemed to be African and there was someone 286 00:15:35,890 --> 00:15:40,560 S10: in power was making a decision that your genetics supposedly, 287 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,920 S10: or at least we know it now, is genetics or 288 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,200 S10: your lineage back then was going to determine whether you 289 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,360 S10: were a person or not. We're getting very close to 290 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,080 S10: that with this kind of argument, very close to saying 291 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,400 S10: you're really not a Jew. You're really not a Jewish 292 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,920 S10: person because you haven't met my test for what? Your 293 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,920 S10: genetics have to be, right. And we know some very 294 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,160 S10: bad stories about genetics, from the Nazi Germany to the 295 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,160 S10: beginning of those that advocated mass abortion. 296 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,920 S1: Are you going to do DNA tests for everybody living 297 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,440 S1: in Italy? Because only Italians should live there. So let's 298 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,400 S1: find out. And, you know. 299 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,600 S10: And by the way, if you believe the Bible, you 300 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,200 S10: and I do, and many of your listeners do, according 301 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,920 S10: to Genesis, we all are related genetically in some way. 302 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:33,040 S10: So to say you need 100% genetic test means you 303 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,470 S10: you don't understand God's hand in the creation of the 304 00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:36,950 S10: human race. 305 00:16:36,990 --> 00:16:39,350 S1: And of course, there's also what if someone converts to 306 00:16:39,390 --> 00:16:42,110 S1: Judaism and they want to make Aliyah, which means you 307 00:16:42,110 --> 00:16:42,830 S1: become a citizen? 308 00:16:43,710 --> 00:16:48,110 S10: Ethiopians who were allowed to come in and claim and 309 00:16:48,110 --> 00:16:54,510 S10: receive Jewish identity. Well, look at the New Testament stories 310 00:16:54,510 --> 00:16:57,510 S10: that can tell you and the Old Testament stories about 311 00:16:57,550 --> 00:17:03,110 S10: Ethiopia's link to the biblical Israel. Israel. Iraz. 312 00:17:03,150 --> 00:17:06,830 S1: Yeah, exactly. Right. So anyway, the bottom line is, um, 313 00:17:06,830 --> 00:17:09,990 S1: it's the Jewish state. Okay. And it was. 314 00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:13,910 S10: The government that protects the Jewish people. And they are 315 00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:16,070 S10: a people, by the way, just like you and I 316 00:17:16,070 --> 00:17:20,270 S10: are American people, even though I'm not going to be 317 00:17:20,270 --> 00:17:24,109 S10: judged to be an American or not based on my genetics. 318 00:17:24,950 --> 00:17:26,590 S1: We're going to take a break and come right back. 319 00:17:26,590 --> 00:17:28,990 S1: This is in the market with Janet Parshall. He's Craig 320 00:17:28,990 --> 00:17:52,899 S1: Parshall back after this. You know, I could give you 321 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:57,500 S1: countless numbers of events of anti-Semitism just within the last week, 322 00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:00,260 S1: but I'm going to hone in on one. Okay. Because 323 00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:02,260 S1: we were talking about, in fact, last hour, we talked 324 00:18:02,260 --> 00:18:04,820 S1: about Iran and underscored that for us as believers, we 325 00:18:04,820 --> 00:18:07,780 S1: need to understand that while this might be a diplomatic issue, 326 00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:09,460 S1: it might be a military issue, it might be a 327 00:18:09,460 --> 00:18:12,940 S1: geopolitical issue. It is, above all else, a spiritual issue. 328 00:18:12,980 --> 00:18:16,659 S1: There's a darkness there. It is why our friend Herman Shariat, 329 00:18:16,780 --> 00:18:19,100 S1: head of Iran Alive Ministries, has said we need to 330 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:21,940 S1: pray against the Prince of Egypt, the prince of this air. 331 00:18:21,980 --> 00:18:24,380 S1: And there is a darkness there. And they believe that 332 00:18:24,380 --> 00:18:27,020 S1: there should be a total islamification of the entire world. 333 00:18:27,020 --> 00:18:29,580 S1: And when that happens, by the way, their Messiah, their Mahdi, 334 00:18:29,660 --> 00:18:33,080 S1: will step forward. So this is another issue. anti-Semitism at 335 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,400 S1: its core is an interesting Islam. On the one hand, 336 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,399 S1: and now we're talking about the anti-Semitism on the other. 337 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,080 S1: This is the undergirding of all of this is spiritual. 338 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,280 S1: And I think we're seeing an uptick in this because 339 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,159 S1: we're closer to Jesus's return. And this is part of 340 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,479 S1: what we're seeing. We shouldn't be surprised, although I'm stunned, 341 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,240 S1: particularly after October 7th, 2023, that the anti-Semitism just was 342 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,680 S1: a palpable spike up, that Satan. There's no other two 343 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,439 S1: ways about it. I want to see what's happening in 344 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,240 S1: the city of Brighton in the UK, where they've got 345 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,920 S1: major problems, by the way. Um, the royal family put 346 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,399 S1: out their greetings for Ramadan. I can't tell you how 347 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,959 S1: many mayors in the UK now are Muslims. Um, so 348 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,880 S1: they got a big problem. They got a big march 349 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,200 S1: planned for May. I think it's the 14th. Where they're 350 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,359 S1: coming together there. This is the counter movement. Because of 351 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,919 S1: the influence of Islam. The. No walking the dogs. I 352 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,600 S1: saw a video this week of a woman arrested by 353 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,680 S1: a police officer because her dog was making an Islamic 354 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,230 S1: community uncomfortable as she was walking her dog. Okay, I 355 00:19:31,230 --> 00:19:33,070 S1: could go on. I want to take you to Brighton. 356 00:19:33,070 --> 00:19:37,510 S1: Brighton's this little seacoast town in the UK, and they 357 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:41,790 S1: are literally going door to door in Brighton, knocking on 358 00:19:41,790 --> 00:19:46,709 S1: the doors, telling people to boycott Israeli products. Now, by 359 00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:48,869 S1: the way, for the record, I do exactly the opposite. 360 00:19:48,869 --> 00:19:50,430 S1: So when I go shopping and I want to buy 361 00:19:50,430 --> 00:19:52,949 S1: my hummus, I always get Sabra because I happen to 362 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:55,429 S1: know that it's an Israeli product. That's how I vote. 363 00:19:55,670 --> 00:19:57,670 S1: I vote with my values. I vote with my money. 364 00:19:57,950 --> 00:20:02,350 S1: So they're writing down people who aren't interested in boycotting 365 00:20:02,350 --> 00:20:06,630 S1: Israeli products. It's weird. Have a listen. 366 00:20:07,109 --> 00:20:11,470 S11: The south Coast seaside city with a reputation for tolerance, 367 00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:14,710 S11: a place which prides itself on inclusivity. 368 00:20:15,310 --> 00:20:18,590 S12: The Palestinian struggle began over 100 years ago. 369 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:22,470 S11: But many in the Jewish community are alarmed by gatherings 370 00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:23,310 S11: like this. 371 00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:26,949 S13: By mistake, until it shrivels and dies. 372 00:20:27,630 --> 00:20:31,659 S11: This group has come to express solidarity with the Palestinian people. 373 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:36,180 S11: The accusation that their actions could encourage anti-Semitism. 374 00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:38,980 S13: Make eye contact, smile. A nice sort of like. 375 00:20:39,420 --> 00:20:42,660 S11: This is Seymour briefing volunteers on what to say when 376 00:20:42,660 --> 00:20:46,820 S11: they go door to door, asking people to boycott Israeli goods. 377 00:20:47,180 --> 00:20:49,980 S13: People might genuinely ask if we are racist or anti-Semitic. 378 00:20:50,460 --> 00:20:53,379 S13: I know that can be quite a shocking question to 379 00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:58,060 S13: get sometimes if you're motivated by anti-racism. Um, but just 380 00:20:58,060 --> 00:21:01,900 S13: treat it as an honest question. Um, we are obviously 381 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:03,340 S13: opposed to all forms of racism. 382 00:21:03,859 --> 00:21:06,979 S11: He's one of the organizers of a grassroots initiative to 383 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:10,540 S11: create what they're calling an apartheid free zone in Brighton 384 00:21:10,540 --> 00:21:15,939 S11: and Hove, supported by the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. They split 385 00:21:15,940 --> 00:21:19,300 S11: into small groups and head off to nearby streets. 386 00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:21,500 S14: We try to get people to get as many people 387 00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:23,620 S14: as possible to sign up. 388 00:21:23,780 --> 00:21:24,980 S15: So I can't eat hummus. 389 00:21:25,260 --> 00:21:27,730 S14: Well, you can eat hummus, but just not Israeli hummus. 390 00:21:28,450 --> 00:21:31,530 S11: The group says its aim is to put economic pressure 391 00:21:31,530 --> 00:21:32,409 S11: on Israel. 392 00:21:32,810 --> 00:21:35,730 S14: This is a local campaign in Britain to boycott divestment, 393 00:21:35,730 --> 00:21:40,129 S14: sanctions against Israel because of the of the treatment of Palestinians. 394 00:21:40,410 --> 00:21:44,850 S11: But they stand accused of sowing division. Are you anti-Semitic? 395 00:21:44,890 --> 00:21:46,490 S13: No. We're anti-racist. 396 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:47,570 S11: anti-Zionist? 397 00:21:47,609 --> 00:21:48,250 S13: Yeah, sure. 398 00:21:48,730 --> 00:21:49,890 S11: You're anti-Zionist? 399 00:21:49,930 --> 00:21:56,570 S13: Yeah. Because the, uh, the Zionist ideology is an apartheid ideology, 400 00:21:56,570 --> 00:21:57,090 S13: in our view. 401 00:21:57,130 --> 00:22:00,010 S11: But can you understand why people would be uncomfortable if 402 00:22:00,010 --> 00:22:02,490 S11: they dispute that view of you going door to door? 403 00:22:02,930 --> 00:22:06,690 S13: I mean, people might feel uncomfortable, I suppose, but it's only, uh, 404 00:22:07,090 --> 00:22:09,770 S13: it's only a one on one conversation. We're not, uh, 405 00:22:10,290 --> 00:22:11,370 S13: we're very polite on the door. 406 00:22:11,410 --> 00:22:13,729 S11: If someone who's Jewish opens the door, that's going to 407 00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:15,210 S11: be uncomfortable for them, isn't it? 408 00:22:15,690 --> 00:22:18,330 S13: Oh, we don't think so. It's no different from the 409 00:22:18,810 --> 00:22:21,850 S13: actions of a political party like the Conservative Party or 410 00:22:21,850 --> 00:22:24,530 S13: the Labour Party, who also go door to door and 411 00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:26,399 S13: ask people how they feel. 412 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,360 S1: No no no no. You're literally telling people to boycott 413 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,320 S1: Israel based on your very wrongheaded idea that Israel is 414 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,600 S1: an apartheid state. I'll go back to that in a minute. 415 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,640 S1: But then they write down people who don't say that 416 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,600 S1: they're going to boycott. They're making a list and they're 417 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,800 S1: not checking it twice. Believe me, they're literally writing down 418 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,320 S1: in Brighton the people who will not join their cause, 419 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,080 S1: which is wrongheaded, spiritually motivated dark spirits, by the way. 420 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,520 S1: And the idea that somehow it's apartheid, by the way, 421 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,679 S1: there's zero comparison. And every time somebody says that, I 422 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,399 S1: want to say, have you ever traveled to Israel? Because 423 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,919 S1: that whole argument of an apartheid state would be eradicated. 424 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,720 S1: 10s after you landed in Israel because you have anything 425 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,879 S1: but an apartheid state there. So this is making a 426 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,520 S1: lot of people uncomfortable. And he is anti-Zionist. So this 427 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,080 S1: is why I say we're word splitting, I believe. Again, 428 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,359 S1: God is not the author of confusion. So it's the 429 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,280 S1: confusion of a word salad to get people confused on 430 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,420 S1: this issue. anti-Semite. anti-Zionist. It's one in the same. You 431 00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:30,739 S1: can't hair split between the two. Are you anti-Zionist? She 432 00:23:30,740 --> 00:23:33,459 S1: said yes. Sure. Okay, so he doesn't believe that the 433 00:23:33,460 --> 00:23:35,540 S1: State of Israel should exist. Your thoughts? 434 00:23:35,740 --> 00:23:38,939 S10: Um. I want to go back to George Washington. The 435 00:23:38,940 --> 00:23:40,060 S10: year was 1790. 436 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:40,780 S1: That's the Segway. 437 00:23:41,060 --> 00:23:45,540 S10: Yep. But I'm an American. It breaks my heart to 438 00:23:45,540 --> 00:23:47,420 S10: see what happens over in the UK. It breaks my 439 00:23:47,420 --> 00:23:50,220 S10: heart when I see the anti-Semitism in my country. So 440 00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:53,380 S10: let me talk about my country for a minute and 441 00:23:53,380 --> 00:23:58,219 S10: hope that the UK listens. 1790 George Washington writes to 442 00:23:58,260 --> 00:24:02,020 S10: the Hebrew congregation in New Jersey, excuse me, in Rhode Island. 443 00:24:02,780 --> 00:24:05,540 S10: And he says this in his letter, May the children 444 00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:08,540 S10: of the stock of Abraham who dwell in this land, 445 00:24:08,540 --> 00:24:13,300 S10: continue to merit and enjoy the goodwill of other inhabitants, 446 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:16,820 S10: while everyone shall sit in safety under his own vine 447 00:24:16,820 --> 00:24:20,619 S10: and fig tree, and there shall be none to make 448 00:24:20,619 --> 00:24:21,900 S10: him afraid. 449 00:24:22,490 --> 00:24:25,890 S1: George Washington. Mm. How interesting. Let me take a break 450 00:24:25,890 --> 00:24:28,330 S1: and come right back. This is in the market with Janet. 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Become a partial partner today 461 00:25:11,130 --> 00:25:15,730 S1: and you'll receive these exclusive benefits. Call 87758 or go 462 00:25:15,730 --> 00:25:21,639 S1: online to in the market with Janet Parshall. One of 463 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,680 S1: the things we like to do on Friday is we 464 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,000 S1: really and truly believe that you and I need to 465 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,480 S1: be discerning. We need to be good. Bereans. The Bible 466 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,360 S1: in the book of acts describes the Bereans as people 467 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,640 S1: of noble character. Wow. Wouldn't you like to be called 468 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,880 S1: that for all times in the Word of God? And 469 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,240 S1: what's so magnificent about the Bereans is that they were 470 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,240 S1: testing not what the pagans were saying. The Epicureans, the Stoics, 471 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560 S1: the philosophers of the day. They were questioning what Brother 472 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,239 S1: Paul had to say. In other words, the message to 473 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,840 S1: us is just because they're standing in the front of 474 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,600 S1: the room in a pulpit doesn't mean everything that comes 475 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,240 S1: out of their mouth is bedrock solid. In fact, buyer beware. 476 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,440 S1: And that's why Jesus says very clearly in Matthew chapter seven, 477 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,880 S1: beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, 478 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,160 S1: but inwardly are ravenous wolves. So they may. That's the 479 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,200 S1: sound you need to learn to recognize. So on Friday 480 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,119 S1: we play some of that stuff so that you can go, whoa, 481 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,960 S1: whoa whoa, wait a minute. I have one shepherd. His 482 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,960 S1: name is Jesus. And there are among the flock ravenous wolves. 483 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,679 S1: So I wish I could tell you it's hard to 484 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,790 S1: find this stuff, but it's not. It's not hard at all. 485 00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:21,950 S1: And so I never named the person. I don't care 486 00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:23,909 S1: who the person is. The Bible says out of the 487 00:26:23,910 --> 00:26:25,790 S1: overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks. So their name 488 00:26:25,790 --> 00:26:29,590 S1: is immaterial, their denomination likewise immaterial. I got news for you. 489 00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:31,629 S1: If you don't believe me. When we get to heaven, 490 00:26:31,630 --> 00:26:34,150 S1: there's no teams. It's not like an NFL franchise. Okay? 491 00:26:34,190 --> 00:26:36,910 S1: The Baptists are over here. The Presbyterians are over here. 492 00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:38,629 S1: You know the Packers are over here. The bears are 493 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:41,189 S1: over there. Nope, nope. We're going to be standing on 494 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:45,550 S1: level ground before the throne of Christ. I probably won't 495 00:26:45,550 --> 00:26:47,790 S1: raise my head for about a million years. It's an eternity. 496 00:26:47,790 --> 00:26:49,190 S1: I've got a long enough time to do that. But 497 00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:52,670 S1: we will be standing in the presence of glory and holiness, 498 00:26:52,670 --> 00:26:55,510 S1: and it will take our breath away. And what team 499 00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:58,430 S1: you were part of pre. Your going into glory is 500 00:26:58,430 --> 00:27:00,910 S1: not going to matter one whit. It's whether or not 501 00:27:00,910 --> 00:27:04,270 S1: you knew, loved and served Jesus. So I'm not going 502 00:27:04,270 --> 00:27:06,590 S1: to name the denomination. I'm not going to name the person. 503 00:27:06,590 --> 00:27:08,830 S1: I'm not going to name what entity they represent. I 504 00:27:08,830 --> 00:27:11,790 S1: want you to just hear. So this is the plumb 505 00:27:11,790 --> 00:27:14,550 S1: line test. Okay. We read about the plumb line in 506 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:16,830 S1: the book of Amos. You always hear me talking about 507 00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:19,810 S1: Dwight L Moody calling the Bible the straight stick of truth. 508 00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:21,930 S1: So you take out the Word of God. You measure 509 00:27:21,930 --> 00:27:27,489 S1: what's being uttered by anyone out there who to see 510 00:27:27,490 --> 00:27:29,410 S1: if they're a ravenous wolf. Just see if what they 511 00:27:29,410 --> 00:27:32,090 S1: say comes into alignment with the Word of God. So, 512 00:27:32,130 --> 00:27:34,209 S1: without further ado, have a listen to this. 513 00:27:34,850 --> 00:27:40,409 S16: Our commitment to queerness, to queer theology that says spaces 514 00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:44,770 S16: like this are beautiful gatherings of community where we get 515 00:27:44,770 --> 00:27:49,530 S16: to try new things, where we get to examine traditions, 516 00:27:49,570 --> 00:27:54,449 S16: theologies that we have always held as fact and truth, 517 00:27:54,770 --> 00:27:57,729 S16: when in fact they are often truth. For those who 518 00:27:57,730 --> 00:28:00,409 S16: are in power to ask, what does it mean to 519 00:28:00,450 --> 00:28:04,530 S16: expand our theologies, to expand our understanding of God in 520 00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:07,570 S16: this space that we will carry out into other spaces? 521 00:28:07,570 --> 00:28:13,090 S16: To ask who? For whom? Ash Wednesday well, a reminder 522 00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:18,840 S16: of the cross is often. sometimes doubly a reminder of 523 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,400 S16: shame and sin put upon queer communities. What does it 524 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,440 S16: mean to hold stardust, to hold glitter, to hold resilience 525 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,920 S16: of queerness alongside the solemness, the importance, the cherished space, 526 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,719 S16: the solemn space of Ash Wednesday within our community? So 527 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,560 S16: I ask that we continue to recommit ourselves as we 528 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,880 S16: move into this Lenten season, to publicly affirming our queer siblings, 529 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,680 S16: our other marginalized siblings, and that we work to stand 530 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,120 S16: with one another in our collective work towards justice, towards 531 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,960 S16: God's love. And that we do that today in wearing 532 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,200 S16: in imposing our glitter and ash. Thank you. 533 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,800 S1: Wow. Okay, so, uh, here we are. Um, we have 534 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,200 S1: just Mardi Gras was Tuesday. Lent was beginning on Wednesday. 535 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,990 S1: And this individual is basically saying that lent's a tough 536 00:29:16,990 --> 00:29:19,990 S1: time for the homosexual community, because that's very often when 537 00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:21,990 S1: shame is put on them, to which I step back 538 00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:24,630 S1: and say, well, I don't know if anybody else is 539 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:27,910 S1: superimposing shame. Maybe it's the conviction of the Holy Spirit 540 00:29:27,910 --> 00:29:30,310 S1: that said, listen, what you're doing is out of bounds. 541 00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:32,430 S1: It's what God doesn't want for your life. He's got 542 00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:34,670 S1: a better plan for you, he's got a better way. 543 00:29:34,670 --> 00:29:36,950 S1: And whatever your desires are that are in conflict, he 544 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:38,830 S1: can give you the desires of your heart that come 545 00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:41,670 S1: into alignment with him, where you will have a life 546 00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:44,390 S1: that's much more God honoring, and you won't be at 547 00:29:44,390 --> 00:29:47,230 S1: war with who you are. And the fact that God 548 00:29:47,230 --> 00:29:49,830 S1: has given us these parameters for our behavior, not because 549 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:52,550 S1: he's a cosmic bully, but because he loves us. So 550 00:29:52,550 --> 00:29:58,270 S1: this person, unfortunately, Torturously, intersects this advancement of homosexual rights 551 00:29:58,270 --> 00:30:01,110 S1: with the idea of lent and the cross. You know, 552 00:30:01,150 --> 00:30:03,310 S1: it's not so good for the homosexual community because I 553 00:30:03,310 --> 00:30:05,110 S1: don't know, it's a reminder of shame. Well, it's a 554 00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:07,950 S1: reminder of sin, which is why a lot of people 555 00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:10,190 S1: say it lent. I'm going to give something up in 556 00:30:10,190 --> 00:30:13,580 S1: my life in remembrance of what Christ gave for my life. 557 00:30:14,060 --> 00:30:21,700 S10: Yeah. Um, interesting that, uh, expanding your theologies was mentioned. 558 00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:28,620 S10: Community was mentioned. Uh, God's Word and Scripture was not mentioned. Uh, 559 00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:32,140 S10: there was no basis whatsoever for anything that we just 560 00:30:32,140 --> 00:30:36,260 S10: heard this person say. Now, there's two ways to approach 561 00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:42,620 S10: these big questions. One is human speculation. And that's what 562 00:30:42,620 --> 00:30:46,420 S10: she was talking about. We need to expand into new 563 00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:52,940 S10: theologies so that we can build this community. Okay. That's interesting. 564 00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:58,580 S10: Human speculation. Or the other option is revelation. Those are 565 00:30:58,580 --> 00:31:03,420 S10: always been the two basic options for your thinking about 566 00:31:03,420 --> 00:31:08,380 S10: what God wants for you. God wants for your conduct, 567 00:31:08,420 --> 00:31:11,940 S10: your attitude, and your beliefs. So if you go to 568 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,200 S10: God's revealed word, we see something different, by the way. Uh, 569 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,920 S10: I noticed that she mentioned, you know, lent is a 570 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:27,960 S10: time when sin and shame is imposed on the gay community. Well, uh, 571 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,360 S10: we're messengers, Janet. If she's talking about people like us 572 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,240 S10: who really take seriously what the word has to say. Um, 573 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,760 S10: we are the messengers. I don't invent this theology. There's 574 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,280 S10: some hard things in Scripture. Um, in fact, I remember 575 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240 S10: what C.S. Lewis had to say about it. He said 576 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,680 S10: it wasn't the things he couldn't understand in Scripture that 577 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,640 S10: made him uncomfortable. It was the things he did understand. 578 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,800 S10: Because we are convicted by the perfection of God's message 579 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,480 S10: to us about what he wants us to to do 580 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,040 S10: and how he wants us to live. And when you 581 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,910 S10: become a Christian by accepting what Christ did on the 582 00:32:12,910 --> 00:32:15,910 S10: cross for the forgiveness of your sins, and admit that 583 00:32:15,910 --> 00:32:19,469 S10: you were a sinner. And see, that includes all of us, 584 00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:24,470 S10: not just the gay community or the heterosexual community, or 585 00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:29,150 S10: the right wing, or the left wing or Washington or London. 586 00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:33,590 S10: This is all of us. We are all sinners. And 587 00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:37,150 S10: Scripture makes it very clear that's the natural state of 588 00:32:37,150 --> 00:32:39,750 S10: all of us, because we are a fallen race. But 589 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:43,190 S10: there's a good ending to this story. If you'll read 590 00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:47,350 S10: the word and you'll grasp the reality that there's a 591 00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:50,430 S10: way out, there's a way you can be connected with God. 592 00:32:50,430 --> 00:32:55,350 S10: Forget the new theologies. Let's go to the old, ancient, 593 00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:59,110 S10: but still relevant truth. And it's in the word and 594 00:32:59,110 --> 00:33:00,230 S10: it's crystal clear. 595 00:33:00,790 --> 00:33:03,270 S1: So big picture, put on the wide angle lens. Okay. 596 00:33:03,310 --> 00:33:07,190 S1: Or another way from the 35,000 foot perspective. So the 597 00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:10,420 S1: statement made by this individual individuals. Ash Wednesday, while a 598 00:33:10,420 --> 00:33:13,340 S1: reminder of the cross, is doubly a reminder of shame 599 00:33:13,340 --> 00:33:15,700 S1: and sin put upon queer communities. Well, first of all, 600 00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:18,140 S1: I would argue with her proposition because I don't know 601 00:33:18,140 --> 00:33:21,460 S1: that there's any more super conviction of sin and shame 602 00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:25,219 S1: for someone who has same sex desires than somebody who's 603 00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:28,180 S1: a gossip, cheats on their taxes, or commits first degree murder. 604 00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:30,460 S1: Sin is sin is sin, or. 605 00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:32,340 S10: A heterosexual adulterer. 606 00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:34,420 S1: All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. 607 00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:36,900 S1: There's not one righteous, no not one. And so what 608 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:40,620 S1: is it about this season of lent? Remember, the culmination 609 00:33:40,620 --> 00:33:43,820 S1: will be the cross, and then the promise is in 610 00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:46,420 S1: the resurrection. So if this is a time where we're 611 00:33:46,420 --> 00:33:49,300 S1: under conviction for our sin, thanks be to God. May 612 00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:50,660 S1: we all be under conviction. 613 00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:54,100 S10: That's the uncomfortable part that C.S. Lewis and you and 614 00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:57,500 S10: I and every other follower of Christ recognizes. 615 00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,460 S1: We have been separated from God by our sin. That 616 00:34:01,460 --> 00:34:05,940 S1: chasm there is real. It's palpable. There's it's undeniable. That's 617 00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:08,130 S1: why I love the way that Ray comfort approaches is 618 00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:10,050 S1: sharing the good news of the gospel. He doesn't appeal 619 00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:12,490 S1: to the mind where there's conflict, his words, not mine. 620 00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:15,370 S1: He appeals to the conscience, where we discover in very 621 00:34:15,370 --> 00:34:17,609 S1: short order, simply by looking at the mirror of the 622 00:34:17,610 --> 00:34:20,690 S1: Ten Commandments of did you take the Lord's name in vain? 623 00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:22,290 S1: Did you have a lustful thought after woman? Did you 624 00:34:22,290 --> 00:34:24,330 S1: ever tell a lie? Boom boom boom. Just like that. 625 00:34:24,330 --> 00:34:26,210 S1: You don't need a 12 man jury to come back 626 00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:29,009 S1: and say guilty as charged. The Ten Commandments are used 627 00:34:29,010 --> 00:34:31,250 S1: as an absolute plumb line. I'll use the word again 628 00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:34,810 S1: that says, listen, you're your righteousness is as filthy rags. 629 00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:37,410 S1: You are a sinner. You are in need of Christ. 630 00:34:37,570 --> 00:34:40,689 S1: And what this time preceding Good Friday and Easter should be, 631 00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:44,970 S1: which should be the should be the deep contemplation, uh, 632 00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:47,969 S1: by you and me of our sinful state. And what 633 00:34:48,010 --> 00:34:52,370 S1: a merciful, gracious, loving God. Not the focus on the sin, 634 00:34:52,370 --> 00:34:56,049 S1: but rather recognizing the separation that has been bridged by 635 00:34:56,050 --> 00:34:59,370 S1: the cross of Calvary. So I really take umbrage with her, 636 00:34:59,370 --> 00:35:02,610 S1: positing somehow that there's an extra dose of of shame 637 00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:06,670 S1: and sin put on the gay community because of the cross. Well, then, madam, 638 00:35:06,670 --> 00:35:08,790 S1: I would ask you to think deeply. What does the 639 00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:12,590 S1: cross represent that would bring about, in fact, sin and shame. 640 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:16,430 S1: Not your homosexuality, your sinfulness that separated you from God. 641 00:35:16,469 --> 00:35:20,870 S10: And remember the picture of Jesus with the woman caught 642 00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:24,669 S10: in adultery, surrounded by men with rocks in their hand. 643 00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:27,350 S10: You and I have seen the size of the rocks. 644 00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:33,670 S10: And what did he say? He said, okay, which of 645 00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:36,310 S10: you are without sin? You can be the first one 646 00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:39,430 S10: to peg that big rock right at her head. They 647 00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:41,549 S10: were unable to do it because of the conviction of 648 00:35:41,550 --> 00:35:46,830 S10: the truth of the Savior, the Redeemer, the Messiah that 649 00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:51,150 S10: they had rejected. They weren't accepting him, but they couldn't 650 00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:55,030 S10: deny that they were not righteous enough to throw that 651 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:59,110 S10: stone at another sinner. It wasn't just the adultery. All 652 00:35:59,110 --> 00:36:02,470 S10: have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. 653 00:36:02,670 --> 00:36:05,180 S10: We're told in Scripture in the book of Romans. So 654 00:36:05,620 --> 00:36:08,860 S10: it is a universal reality for all of us. The 655 00:36:08,860 --> 00:36:11,460 S10: question is, are we going to come to grips with 656 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:13,899 S10: how to resolve it? And the way to resolve it 657 00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:16,900 S10: is the cross, and that's what Easter is all about. 658 00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,299 S10: And so I like what you had to say, and 659 00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:21,379 S10: that is we should thank God that there has been 660 00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:24,020 S10: a solution provided only by him. That's the only way 661 00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:26,900 S10: it could happen, not by us. For the sin condition. 662 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:29,940 S10: And we are now capable of being in fellowship with him, 663 00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:34,060 S10: if we will choose by faith his grace afforded to 664 00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:34,740 S10: us on the cross. 665 00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:37,819 S1: And not only does the cross remind us of our 666 00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:41,380 S1: shame and our sin, but it reminds us of his 667 00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:45,100 S1: unconditional love that he was willing to lay down his 668 00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:55,540 S1: life for us. That's the good news. Back after this. Okay, 669 00:36:55,580 --> 00:36:58,900 S1: here's a bizarre story from Down Under. In this case, 670 00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:03,170 S1: it comes from New Zealand. Apparently the New Zealand Defence 671 00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:08,290 S1: Forces spent 2025 training soldiers to take out fictional Christian 672 00:37:08,290 --> 00:37:12,050 S1: terrorist groups on a map of their own country. Now, 673 00:37:12,050 --> 00:37:15,410 S1: none of New Zealand's 23 listed terrorist organisations are in 674 00:37:15,410 --> 00:37:18,969 S1: fact Christian, and they say that no offence was intended. 675 00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:23,649 S1: So in 2025, the New Zealand military ran simulations where 676 00:37:23,650 --> 00:37:26,930 S1: they were responding to the over present global threat of 677 00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:32,130 S1: Christian nationalism. Apparently the fictitious force is called the Visayan 678 00:37:32,170 --> 00:37:36,650 S1: People's Front. Separatists seeking to found a Christian state. Their 679 00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:40,170 S1: war game profile included weapons smuggling. Oh, yeah, boatloads of 680 00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:44,690 S1: Christians do this. Weapons smuggling. Attacks on security forces. And Islamophobia. 681 00:37:44,890 --> 00:37:47,770 S1: New Zealand Defence Force soldiers were to use lethal force 682 00:37:47,770 --> 00:37:52,090 S1: against them. Places named throughout the exercise looked vaguely familiar 683 00:37:52,090 --> 00:37:55,530 S1: to places in New Zealand. In fact, it was not. 684 00:37:55,570 --> 00:37:59,210 S1: It was supposed to be set in a fictional distant land, 685 00:37:59,210 --> 00:38:02,440 S1: but the map looked an awful lot like their own homeland. 686 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,520 S1: So the Saiyan peoples front, no doubt pulled from some 687 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,080 S1: failed Hollywood script somewhere, is billed in the Tactical War 688 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,480 S1: Games package of a group of Christ followers who, quote, 689 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,200 S1: want to deport all Muslims and create a Christian nation. 690 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,719 S1: So this is this made up group, and this is 691 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,000 S1: supposedly what their mission statement is. The simulation was, however, 692 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,040 S1: developed and managed by the US Army Training and Transformation 693 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,320 S1: Command as a part of the decisive action training environment 694 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,480 S1: called Date Tool, which was created in 2021. So you 695 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,640 S1: have to wonder why the US military and its allies 696 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,800 S1: are creating scenarios with Christian nationalists as the bad guys. So, 697 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080 S1: you know, it's interesting because if you look at the 698 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,840 S1: real bad guys, you will see the non US, UN 699 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,680 S1: designated terror groups that are recognized by the New Zealand government. 700 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,080 S1: I'll give you a couple of names Alaska martyr Brigade, al-Shabab, 701 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:59,860 S1: Ansar Allah, Hezbollah, Indian Mujahideen, the Islamic State, Sinai. the 702 00:38:59,860 --> 00:39:03,740 S1: Palestinian Islamic Jihad. And then there's a couple of resistance groups, 703 00:39:03,739 --> 00:39:07,420 S1: like the Revolutionary People's Liberation Party Front that comes out 704 00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:10,860 S1: of Turkey, or the New People's Army, the Communist Party 705 00:39:10,860 --> 00:39:13,660 S1: of the Philippines of the Philippines almost said Philippines. The 706 00:39:13,660 --> 00:39:16,739 S1: Shining Path, which is a Peruvian group of communists. And 707 00:39:16,739 --> 00:39:20,420 S1: then they've got on there the pesky Irish continuity Irish 708 00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:24,380 S1: Republican Army, the new Irish Republican Army, literally a Satanist 709 00:39:24,420 --> 00:39:27,020 S1: group called the order of the Nine Apples and two 710 00:39:27,020 --> 00:39:31,060 S1: neo-Nazi groups, uh, the Terror Graham Collective and the base. 711 00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:36,379 S1: Not a single Christian group is on this list. Despite that, 712 00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:41,779 S1: it doesn't make any difference. Um, apparently, uh, they've documented 713 00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:44,779 S1: that the New Zealand Defense Forces parallel programs, they've had 714 00:39:44,780 --> 00:39:49,020 S1: pride pledge fees of 45,000 in 3 years, rainbow Excellence awards, 715 00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:54,940 S1: compulsory LGBTQ plus sensitivity training, and the institution conditioning soldiers 716 00:39:54,940 --> 00:39:57,900 S1: to fight Christians is the same one earning awards for 717 00:39:58,090 --> 00:40:03,610 S1: rainbow inclusion. I don't know, Craig. A little bias there. Um, again, 718 00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:08,170 S1: Christian nationalism, selling weapons, wanting to deport all Muslims. I 719 00:40:08,170 --> 00:40:11,170 S1: don't know. What do you think? Well, legit justifiable bias. 720 00:40:11,210 --> 00:40:14,529 S10: You know, I don't know. I when I look at 721 00:40:14,530 --> 00:40:17,410 S10: a pattern, that kinds of it looks like it's a 722 00:40:17,410 --> 00:40:20,729 S10: corollary to something else, I think, okay, maybe it's not 723 00:40:20,730 --> 00:40:29,450 S10: just a coincidence. So they did this. And in 2025, 724 00:40:29,489 --> 00:40:31,370 S10: as a matter of fact, I think it was in August, 725 00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:36,689 S10: as I recall. Excuse me, June, um, it made national 726 00:40:36,730 --> 00:40:41,890 S10: headlines of concern in New Zealand when there was a 727 00:40:42,090 --> 00:40:48,650 S10: conservative Christian march, uh, in June against the rampant, uh, 728 00:40:48,690 --> 00:40:54,890 S10: lack of regulation with regard to immigration and also the, uh, 729 00:40:54,890 --> 00:40:59,600 S10: attacks on Christian values as perceived by Christian conservatives there 730 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,440 S10: in New Zealand. So that happens in June of 2025. 731 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,319 S10: And then they just happened. 732 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:05,960 S1: Just happened. 733 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,360 S10: Just happened, you know, 6 or 7 months later to well, 734 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,120 S10: we got to think about a terrorist group. So let's 735 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,400 S10: let's okay. Islamic terrorism. No no no no I'm not 736 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,480 S10: going to do Communist party. No neo-Nazis. No no no 737 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,480 S10: I got it. Christian nationalism. Now, I don't think it 738 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,200 S10: takes too much imagination to look at two and two 739 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,359 S10: and find it gives you a sum of four. And 740 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,560 S10: I think that may well have been what was going 741 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,040 S10: on over there. And that's sad, because the idea of these, 742 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,160 S10: this label of Christian nationalism, of course, has been around, 743 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,680 S10: as you and I know, and we've talked about it 744 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,000 S10: on your show many times, uh, has been used as 745 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,000 S10: a political, uh, sledgehammer, um, by some political parties here 746 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:57,870 S10: in the United States, particularly around election time. and certain 747 00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:03,030 S10: magazines and media outlets that tend to toward one political 748 00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:09,790 S10: party rather than the other. Um, but it's, uh, Christian nationalism. Um, 749 00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:14,230 S10: I quoted earlier in this program, you know, George Washington, uh, 750 00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:16,469 S10: go back to the founders, read what they had to 751 00:42:16,510 --> 00:42:19,870 S10: say about some of these quote values that are under 752 00:42:19,870 --> 00:42:23,630 S10: attack in New Zealand and the United States and other countries, 753 00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:27,430 S10: particularly Western ones. Um, so I don't think it was 754 00:42:27,710 --> 00:42:30,630 S10: I don't think it was a coincidence. I can't prove it, 755 00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:34,630 S10: but I have a reasonable suspicion, to quote the law 756 00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:39,469 S10: of search and seizure, to to say, if I delve 757 00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:42,150 S10: any deeper into this, I'd probably find an even closer 758 00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:46,230 S10: connection between what happened in June and, you know, the 759 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:50,029 S10: fact that Christian conservatives are getting organized over there to say, 760 00:42:50,030 --> 00:42:54,690 S10: wait a minute. Use your head. Uh, have some logical 761 00:42:54,690 --> 00:42:58,770 S10: restrictions on immigration. We're we're not against a specific group. 762 00:42:59,170 --> 00:43:02,410 S10: But if you allow open borders, you will no longer 763 00:43:02,410 --> 00:43:06,089 S10: have a nation. That's our view. We have biblical evidence 764 00:43:06,090 --> 00:43:08,890 S10: to show that that is really the way, uh, that 765 00:43:08,930 --> 00:43:12,730 S10: that Scripture teaches us to view the world. And it's 766 00:43:12,730 --> 00:43:16,970 S10: just plain good governance. And, uh, so we'll we'll follow 767 00:43:16,969 --> 00:43:19,450 S10: this to see what happens in New Zealand. Uh, because 768 00:43:19,489 --> 00:43:22,450 S10: it's happening really in other countries around the world you 769 00:43:22,450 --> 00:43:23,209 S10: and I have talked about. 770 00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:24,890 S1: In the United States, it's coming up all the time. 771 00:43:24,930 --> 00:43:28,050 S1: And listen, if we thought that there was any semblance 772 00:43:28,050 --> 00:43:31,210 S1: of trying to forcibly create a Christian nation, I don't 773 00:43:31,210 --> 00:43:33,370 S1: believe in coercion when it comes to Christianity. I believe 774 00:43:33,370 --> 00:43:34,530 S1: in the power of the Holy Spirit. 775 00:43:34,730 --> 00:43:37,730 S10: Neither did the founders and neither did the reformers. 776 00:43:37,890 --> 00:43:40,850 S1: So were the ideals and the principles on which American 777 00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:47,250 S1: government was created. Biblical Judeo-Christian values, inarguably. Does that make 778 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:49,410 S1: us a Christian nation? No. Do you have a right 779 00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:50,290 S1: hand and a left hand? 780 00:43:50,330 --> 00:43:52,399 S10: And you have a right to to say, no, I'm 781 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,720 S10: an atheist. No, I'm a Buddhist. And that is the 782 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,360 S10: the genius of the founders that was informed by their biblical. 783 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,239 S1: It's also the genius of Scripture. You have the liberty 784 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,040 S1: to accept or reject what is absolute truth, but nobody's 785 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,319 S1: going to coerce you in to do that. In reality, 786 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,080 S1: the phrase Christian nationalism is a cudgel. It's a club 787 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,880 S1: designed to silence people who have a biblical worldview, from 788 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,960 S1: entering into the marketplace of ideas or showing up and 789 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,759 S1: voting for election. So just buyer beware. Be aware of 790 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,200 S1: the fact that that's to scare you, that, oh, I 791 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,160 S1: shouldn't speak my values outside in public, because if I do, 792 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,799 S1: I'm helping to establish a Christian nation. No, look, there's 793 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,280 S1: going to be a new heaven and a new earth. 794 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,359 S1: This country is going to pass away, as is every 795 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,760 S1: other planet and every other city and government and regime 796 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,279 S1: and empire on planet Earth. And someday it'll all be 797 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,040 S1: made new. I hope you're ready, because it's coming, and 798 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,840 S1: I hope you know who Jesus is. Think about it. 799 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,239 S1: If you don't, that's your assignment this weekend. See you 800 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,160 S1: next time, friends.