WEBVTT - The Secret to Freedom and Confidence– Part 1

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<v S1>Today on Bold steps with Mark job, we're discovering what

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<v S1>the Apostle Paul meant when he talked about the mystery

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<v S1>of Christ.

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<v S2>All of you here have gifts of God, God's given gifts.

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<v S2>God gives that person one gift, that person, someone else

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<v S2>a gift. But we all have supernatural gifts given to

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<v S2>us by God that are graces that God has put

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<v S2>onto our life, that equip us for the mission that

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<v S2>God has called us to accomplish.

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<v S1>And welcome to Bold Steps with pastor Mark Jobe. Mark

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<v S1>is senior pastor of New Life Community Church and president

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<v S1>of Moody Bible Institute, both in Chicago. And I'm Wayne Shepherd. Well,

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<v S1>we all know people who are great at keeping secrets.

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<v S1>And then there are others. Not so much. Mark, where

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<v S1>do you fall on that scale?

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<v S2>I'm a great secret keeper.

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<v S1>Are you.

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<v S2>Actually. Finally, you have to torture it out of.

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<v S3>Me to get me. But, you know, my kids growing

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<v S3>up weren't that good. My wife would plan a surprise

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<v S3>birthday party or something special, and she would tell my kids,

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<v S3>don't tell dad. Invariably, they would come running to the

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<v S3>door and say, hey, dad, we have a secret we

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<v S3>can't tell you, and it wouldn't take much to get

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<v S3>it out of them. I like really okay. Well what?

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<v S3>And they would just want to blurt it. Okay, dad.

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<v S3>And they would tell me. That's cool. Well, Ephesians chapter

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<v S3>three talks about the mystery, the secret of the gospel

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<v S3>and how it was revealed to us. And I think

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<v S3>this is a very, very compelling, powerful passage.

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<v S1>It is indeed Ephesians chapter three today from our series.

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<v S1>When you believe everything Changes. Here's Mark Jobe.

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<v S2>Here's what I believe. I believe that everybody's called everybody.

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<v S2>Some people think that there are certain certain people that

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<v S2>are called and others that are not called. And so

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<v S2>they sort of have two categories of people. These are

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<v S2>the called people and these are the non called people.

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<v S2>I happen to believe that everybody's called. Now not everybody

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<v S2>responds to their call. Not everybody understands their call. Not

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<v S2>everybody engages in their call. But I happen to believe

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<v S2>that everybody in this room, you have been called, you

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<v S2>have a calling on your life, a specific, unique, custom

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<v S2>made mission that God is, has, has engineered for you

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<v S2>and called you to. And Paul is talking about really

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<v S2>his mission. And in verse one of Ephesians chapter three,

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<v S2>he says, for this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of

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<v S2>Christ Jesus, for the sake of you Gentiles. Now he

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<v S2>uses a very interesting Steam introduction there. He says, I, Paul,

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<v S2>the prisoner of Christ Jesus, the prisoner of Christ Jesus. Well,

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<v S2>Paul happened to be in house arrest. Don't raise your

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<v S2>hand if you've been in house arrest here, but I'm

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<v S2>sure some of you have. And nowadays, it's not the

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<v S2>house arrest in the days of Paul. Nowadays, they put

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<v S2>a little ankle bracelet on you, and they can track

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<v S2>whether you leave the house or not. In the days

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<v S2>of Paul, there were no ankle bracelets. So he was

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<v S2>in a house guarded by some guards. He was not

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<v S2>in a physical prison. He was in the equivalent of

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<v S2>26 ankle Cook County. Because really, Cook County is a

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<v S2>jail and the jail is there for you to await

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<v S2>sentencing or await trial. And in essence, Paul was awaiting

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<v S2>trial in front of the Roman emperor. But it would

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<v S2>take sometimes months and even sometimes years to come before

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<v S2>the Emperor because, uh. Hey, that that's. There's a long

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<v S2>wait there. Paul was in house arrest, and he says this.

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<v S2>He says I'm a prisoner of Christ Jesus for the

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<v S2>sake of you Gentiles. The reason that Paul was in

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<v S2>house arrest was because he had a mission in his life.

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<v S2>And his mission, his particular mission and vision, had led

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<v S2>him to preach a message that was unpopular in Jerusalem,

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<v S2>and therefore they had arrested him and were going to

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<v S2>put him to death. But he appealed to Caesar. And now,

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<v S2>because he was following his mission and his calling in life,

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<v S2>he's in prison. Let me just start by saying this.

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<v S2>Sometimes we feel that if we're doing the work of

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<v S2>God and following the mission of God, that everything's going

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<v S2>to be easy, but we feel that doors are going

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<v S2>to pop open in front of us, that if there's

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<v S2>any obstacles, God's going to send lightning bolts to just

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<v S2>fumigate him out of our way. That the Red sea

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<v S2>is going to be parting open, that there's going to

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<v S2>be a smell of roses that's going to lead us

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<v S2>to the path of God, and that we're always going

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<v S2>to be happy, energized, and never have obstacles. Not. That's

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<v S2>really not the way it works. Paul was following his

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<v S2>mission and his call, and he ended up in prison.

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<v S2>Sometimes your call, your mission will have a heavy price

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<v S2>tag on it. And it doesn't mean just because you're

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<v S2>going through a hard time, it doesn't mean that you're

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<v S2>on the wrong track. Sometimes God's mission and his call

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<v S2>will lead us to hard times. Now, in order to

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<v S2>understand the call of God on your life, there's four

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<v S2>things you really need to understand about pursuing with boldness

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<v S2>and confidence the mission that God has for you. I've

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<v S2>summarized them into four words. The first word is calling. Calling.

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<v S2>Look at what it tells us. In verse two. Paul says,

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<v S2>surely you have heard about the administration of God's grace

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<v S2>that was given to me for you. If you're taking notes,

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<v S2>write this word calling down. Uh, calling has to do

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<v S2>with the gift that drives us to our mission. Paul says, hey,

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<v S2>I'm sure you've heard by now about the. He says

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<v S2>the administration of God's grace, that word administration, if you

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<v S2>look it up in the Greek, means a special stewardship

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<v S2>or special assignment. I like that word special assignment. So

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<v S2>Paul says, surely you've heard about my special assignment of

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<v S2>God's grace that was given to me for you. So

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<v S2>Paul is admitting that he has a special assignment and

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<v S2>that that special assignment was given to him by God's grace. Now,

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<v S2>here's what I want you to understand. The word grace

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<v S2>in the New Testament Greek is carrots. It's where we

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<v S2>get our English word charisma from. Uh, when you say

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<v S2>this person is charismatic, it literally means this person is

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<v S2>grace filled. Uh, this person is full of grace favor.

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<v S2>We use it in the context of not not theologically charismatic,

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<v S2>but personality charismatic. When you say that person's charismatic, it

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<v S2>means they have an attractional power that people are drawn

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<v S2>to them, that that they have a charisma about them

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<v S2>that draws people to them. They have grace or favor

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<v S2>upon their lives. Paul says, I have a special assignment

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<v S2>that I have been called to, and it's been given

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<v S2>to me by God's grace, God's favor. Here's the thing

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<v S2>that you need to understand about callings and missions in life.

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<v S2>Your calling and your mission in life is a gift

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<v S2>of God to you. It's a grace of God, a

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<v S2>gift of God. It has nothing to do with you

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<v S2>earning it, deserving it, marrying it. It has nothing to

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<v S2>do with your history background, with your educational background. It

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<v S2>has nothing to do with your personality. It has nothing

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<v S2>to do with your talents. It has everything to do

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<v S2>with God choosing simply, merely out of the goodness of

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<v S2>his heart, out of the overflowing of his purposes. Just

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<v S2>to give you a grace really important that you understand this.

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<v S2>Because if you don't understand the grace of God, you

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<v S2>will make a lot of wrong assumptions. For example, do

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<v S2>you realize that when you are given a gift from God,

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<v S2>a grace from God, that even if you are slipping

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<v S2>away from God spiritually, you can still use that gift

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<v S2>because it doesn't depend on whether you are good or bad?

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<v S2>A gift is a gift. You don't merit it. You

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<v S2>don't deserve it. You have it. When you're doing well,

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<v S2>you still have it when you're doing bad because it's

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<v S2>a gift of God. Are you tracking with me? Let

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<v S2>me explain it in a way that you may understand.

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<v S2>A couple of years ago, I ran into a pastor

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<v S2>that I didn't know very well, but I had met

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<v S2>him before. He was out of the ministry. He. He

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<v S2>had pastored a church of 7800 people, a church that

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<v S2>was well known, doing a lot of things, seeming to

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<v S2>lead a lot of people to Christ. When I when

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<v S2>I asked him what happened, he basically told me his story.

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<v S2>He said that he had been a pastor for a

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<v S2>long time, had a had a master's degree, a doctorate degree,

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<v S2>was married, had a couple of kids, but there was

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<v S2>a crack in his life. A moral crack in his life.

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<v S2>And it started with internet pornography. He got into internet pornography.

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<v S2>It led to exploring websites, uh, where he was getting on, uh,

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<v S2>chat rooms with married women. It went on to getting

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<v S2>on chat rooms with married women, to hooking up with

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<v S2>married women in cafes, and then actually going to hotel

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<v S2>rooms with these married women. And so over a period

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<v S2>of a year, this pastor, that pastor, a pretty large church,

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<v S2>doing a lot of ministry, was involved with over a

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<v S2>dozen women. Other married, unhappy married women, was involved with

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<v S2>a dozen women over a period of a year while

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<v S2>he was still pastoring the church and get up on

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<v S2>Sunday morning and teach and preach. And people were still

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<v S2>coming to Christ, and people would approach him afterwards and say, well,

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<v S2>that word was for me. It really touched me. I

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<v S2>needed to hear that they were having the services, people

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<v S2>were getting saved and people were getting baptized. And yet

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<v S2>on Friday night he was in some hotel room with

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<v S2>a married woman having sex. I'm like, how in the

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<v S2>world could that be? I mean, hold on. Was he pretending?

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<v S2>Was it a fake? No. Let me tell you what

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<v S2>it is. The gifts and the call of God are irrevocable.

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<v S2>That means that when God gives you a gift, you

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<v S2>can use that gift. Even if spiritually you're not doing well,

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<v S2>you can still use a gift, and that gift can operate,

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<v S2>and that gifts can still function. And that gift can

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<v S2>still bless people, even when your character is not measuring

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<v S2>up to the administration of that gift. Are you tracking it?

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<v S1>You're listening to Bold Steps with Mark Jobe. We'll continue

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<v S1>today's message in a moment. But first, Mark, I want

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<v S1>to talk about something that's become a growing concern within

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<v S1>Christian leadership circles. Our world is going through a whirlwind,

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<v S1>pretty dramatic developments and changes, not just here in America,

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<v S1>but around the globe. And we need to remind ourselves.

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<v S1>As Christians, we have a much higher calling than any

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<v S1>political movement, don't we?

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<v S2>Wayne, turn on the news. And there is drama all

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<v S2>over the place. From rumors of wars to economic crisis.

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<v S1>To actualization.

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<v S2>To actual wars that are happening to bombings. And it

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<v S2>is easy to get distracted by all this, worried by it,

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<v S2>anxious by it, sort of sucked into it. But here's

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<v S2>what I want to say. This is a great time

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<v S2>for the good news of Jesus Christ and the hope

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<v S2>of the gospel.

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<v S1>Amen.

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<v S2>There are a lot of people coming to Christ throughout

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<v S2>the world, and you may not hear about it, because

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<v S2>there's other news that is prominent and is taking people's attention.

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<v S2>But there is an undercurrent of a harvest evangelism. And

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<v S2>that's what we're all about right now, is a moment

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<v S2>where people are shaken, where there's concern. But there are

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<v S2>so many people that are turning to the heavens, and

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<v S2>we at Bold steps have determined we will not miss

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<v S2>that moment. And so we are asking you to partner

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<v S2>with us, help us out, because right now is a

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<v S2>great time to be calling people to Jesus.

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<v S1>We urge you to give online at Bold Steps. Org

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<v S1>or you can call us. The number is 800. D.L.

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<v S1>Moody and that works out to be (800) 356-6639. And when

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<v S1>you do give, we'll be sure to send you a

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<v S1>special gift which will tell you more about later in

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<v S1>the program today. Well, thank you for that, Mark. But

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<v S1>let's go back to your message now here on bold Steps.

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<v S2>Never put a man or woman, an evangelist, a pastor,

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<v S2>a teacher, anyone on a super spiritual pedestal. Because sometimes,

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<v S2>I mean, oftentimes I run into people that they think

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<v S2>that because someone has a gift that's ministered to them

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<v S2>and God is using a gift that that person doesn't walk.

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<v S2>They sort of float on clouds. Oh no, they don't walk.

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<v S2>They float. And we sort of pedestalize people and think,

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<v S2>oh no, they don't pray like I pray, man, I, I,

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<v S2>I pray and get put on pause by God. They

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<v S2>pray and have that direct line. God says, yeah, you called.

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<v S2>They never struggle with sin. And sometimes we put people

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<v S2>on pedestals because the gift that is being ministered through them,

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<v S2>without realizing that the gifts and call of God are

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<v S2>irrevocable and have nothing to do with the man or

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<v S2>the woman that is using the gifts. They're gifts of God,

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<v S2>and a person doesn't lose a gift even when their

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<v S2>heart is falling away from God. They don't lose a gift.

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<v S2>That's why we all hear of these scandals where where

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<v S2>God can use someone. And then behind the closed doors,

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<v S2>we find out that there's impropriety there. There's laundering of money,

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<v S2>there's sexual scandal, power abuse and were shocked that they

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<v S2>happen because the gift and the call of God are irrevocable.

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<v S2>So be very careful ever to elevate someone too high.

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<v S2>Every man and every woman's feet are made of clay. Hello.

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<v S2>Only Jesus will never disappoint you. Now, eventually, when someone's

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<v S2>character isn't isn't right. Eventually that will catch up to them.

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<v S2>And it'll sabotage whatever they're doing. And it'll leave. Leave?

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<v S2>A lot of hurt, messed up people. Uh, because the

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<v S2>character of an individual eventually will show itself. It may

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<v S2>take a while before their character catches up to their gifting,

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<v S2>but eventually it'll show itself. That's why. Listen, some of

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<v S2>you have the gift of evangelism, and. And I've had

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<v S2>people with the gift of evangelism. They fall away from Christ.

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<v S2>They're not even going to church. They're at a bar

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<v S2>drinking it up. And next thing you know, I'll meet

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<v S2>someone in church and I'll say, how did you get. Well,

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<v S2>I met this guy at a bar and he started

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<v S2>talking to me about God. Why? Because even though you

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<v S2>may be backslidden. Listen, your gift doesn't go away. It's

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<v S2>still there. So your backslidden. Fallen away from God, doing lousy.

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<v S2>You go to a bar, you see someone, your gift

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<v S2>kicks in, you start talking about God and you say

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<v S2>you need God is what you need. And here let

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<v S2>me tell you about God and your ministering, even though

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<v S2>your heart is away from God. Why? Because your gift

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<v S2>has nothing to do with your spiritual life. It's irrevocable.

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<v S2>It's a grace of God. It's just like salvation. Salvation

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<v S2>is a gift of grace. You don't earn it by

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<v S2>being really good and you don't lose it when you're bad.

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<v S2>It's a gift. It's a gift. You can't earn a gift.

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<v S2>You can't lose a gift when you really have a gift.

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<v S2>Though in the Spirit of God dwells inside of you,

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<v S2>you're going to want to live for God because it's

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<v S2>inside of you and it's real. So Paul is saying

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<v S2>that he had an administration, a special assignment given to

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<v S2>him by the grace of God, by the grace of God.

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<v S2>But I want you to understand. I want you to

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<v S2>understand and grasp that all of us have gifts of

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<v S2>God that have nothing to do with how we've merited

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<v S2>or earned it. Now you can take a gift and

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<v S2>you can not unwrap it. Hello. All of you here

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<v S2>have gifts of God, God's given gifts. But not everybody

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<v S2>unwrap their gifts. Sometimes you have a gift. You don't

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<v S2>use it. You don't unwrap it. You leave it there.

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<v S2>How many of you know you can get a gift?

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<v S2>You say, ah, I don't think I'm going to like

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<v S2>that gift. Just leave it there. Not wrapped. It's still yours.

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<v S2>You still possess it, but you're not using it. Every

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<v S2>Christian has gifts. They come to you via the Holy Spirit.

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<v S2>The Holy Spirit dwells inside of you. Their gifts of encouragement, teaching, wisdom, faith, healing, evangelism, whatever.

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<v S2>There's a whole bunch of lists of gifts. You have

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<v S2>that gift. You're not better be better than someone else

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<v S2>because you have this gift, and someone else has that

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<v S2>gift because you didn't do anything to earn it or

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<v S2>deserve it. Just because you have the gift of teaching

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<v S2>doesn't mean that you're better than someone that doesn't have

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<v S2>the gift of teaching. Just because you have the gift

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<v S2>of faith doesn't make you better than someone that doesn't

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<v S2>have the gift of faith, because you did nothing to

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<v S2>earn it. God just gave it to you. It's your gift.

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<v S2>God gives that person one gift, that person, someone else

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<v S2>a gift. But we all have supernatural gifts given to

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<v S2>us by God that are graces that God has put

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<v S2>onto our life, that equip us for the mission that

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<v S2>God has called us to accomplish. God has gifted you

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<v S2>with things, empowered you with things, and it's those people

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<v S2>that walk in faith that usually utilize their gifts more.

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<v S2>Number two, I'm talking about how to embrace and understand

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<v S2>your calling, how to engage in the calling that you

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<v S2>have by looking at what Paul says about his calling.

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<v S2>Verse three says, that is the mystery made known to

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<v S2>me by revelation, as I have already written briefly in

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<v S2>reading this, then you will be able to understand my

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<v S2>insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made

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<v S2>known to men in other generations, as it has now

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<v S2>been revealed by His Spirit to God's holy apostles and prophets.

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<v S2>Paul now says, not only does he have a calling

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<v S2>given by God's grace. Paul goes on to say, what

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<v S2>feeds my calling is that I have revelation. He uses

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<v S2>the word mystery in the Greek. It's the word mysterium

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<v S2>in our English language. When we think about a mystery,

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<v S2>we think about something that's dark, obscure, secret, unknown to

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<v S2>other people. That's really not the emphasis in this passage.

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<v S2>It simply means something that is known to that person,

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<v S2>but unknown to others. Paul says, I have a mystery

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<v S2>that's been revealed to me that people before me did

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<v S2>not understand, but I understand. What is that mystery? The

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<v S2>mystery was simply this. The Jewish people thought for hundreds

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<v S2>of years that the promise that the covenants that they

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<v S2>were the chosen people, and that no one outside of

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<v S2>them was chosen.

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<v S1>Learning the different types of revelation will continue this message tomorrow.

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<v S1>So please keep listening to bold steps with Mark job now.

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<v S1>Today we're joined by two special guests, Aaron and Jason Davis,

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<v S1>who've written a book that tackles a challenge every Christian

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<v S1>parent faces how to help our boys navigate the lies

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<v S1>our culture is throwing at them. Their book is called

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<v S1>Lies Boys Believe and the Epic Quest for truth.

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<v S4>That's right. Wayne. You know, last month we offered the

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<v S4>companion to this resource Lies Girls Believe. I remember so Aaron,

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<v S4>as a mother of four boys. Yeah, you heard it

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<v S4>for boys. What motivated you to write this book?

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<v S5>Well, obviously my own sons. You're right. So everybody listening.

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<v S5>It's okay for you to gasp at that. Four sons.

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<v S5>That's what Jason and I have. So it's a rowdy house.

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<v S5>But there are primary concern. But they're also a good

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<v S5>indicator of what's happening in the wider culture. And everybody

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<v S5>seems to be talking about boys in crisis, secular and Christian.

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<v S5>But we want to point our boys to the truth,

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<v S5>and the truth is found in God's word. And so

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<v S5>we let our boys go first. They were super involved

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<v S5>in the project and I hope this is an outflow

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<v S5>of our parenting. But we also hope they're just four

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<v S5>examples of what can happen when God gets Ahold of boys,

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<v S5>when they're young and they fall in love with His

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<v S5>word when they're young and they start living for truth.

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<v S1>So, Jason, you have built in research, huh?

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<v S6>Yeah, it's made it easy. We didn't have to travel

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<v S6>a lot to do the market research for this one.

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<v S4>And, Jason, what ages would you say this book is

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<v S4>targeted towards young men?

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<v S6>Uh, probably 6 to 12 would be the target demographic.

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<v S6>That's probably not the right terminology, but, um, we found

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<v S6>that our boys in that age group really resonated well

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<v S6>with the content and the message.

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<v S4>You know, I think this type of book is so needed.

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<v S4>There are so many, so many parents struggling with just

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<v S4>the lies that our culture is just saturating our young

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<v S4>people with. But young boys especially are at a disadvantage

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<v S4>these days when the image of what it means to

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<v S4>be a man or grow up to be a man

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<v S4>is really been erased and very confusing.

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<v S1>This is critical, isn't it?

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<v S4>Yeah.

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<v S1>Aaron and Jason, thank you so much for writing this

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<v S1>book and making it available to our listeners.

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<v S6>It's been a real pleasure.

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<v S5>Yeah, we're just honored to get to serve families and

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<v S5>the church in this way.

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