WEBVTT - Hour 2: More Labor Day Weekend Mailbag 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:12.080 Hello, friends. Welcome to the second hour of Open Line 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:17.090 with Doctor Michael Moody, Radio's Bible Study Across America. My 0:00:17.090 --> 0:00:19.790 name is Michael Radonich. I'm the academic dean and professor 0:00:19.790 --> 0:00:23.120 of Jewish studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute. Remember, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.660 we normally take your calls, but today it's a special 0:00:26.660 --> 0:00:30.830 pre-recorded program, so please don't call. We're clearing the spindle. 0:00:30.860 --> 0:00:34.460 Today we're emptying the inbox answering the questions you've sent in, 0:00:34.460 --> 0:00:38.600 because it's a special Labor Day weekend edition of Open Line. Now, 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.370 if you'd like to send a question to Open Line, 0:00:40.370 --> 0:00:43.790 you can go to our website, Open Line radio.org. Click 0:00:43.790 --> 0:00:46.220 on the link that says Ask Michael a question. You 0:00:46.220 --> 0:00:49.339 can send your question right from there, and then Trish 0:00:49.340 --> 0:00:52.909 will add it to the mailbag for a future program. 0:00:52.909 --> 0:00:55.520 But Tricia McMillan is here with me today. We're sitting 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.720 around the radio kitchen table and we're glad you're here 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.810 with us. Now it's time to get yourself a second 0:01:02.810 --> 0:01:05.660 cup of coffee. Get yourself your Bible out. Keep it out. 0:01:05.660 --> 0:01:08.209 If you had it already. Tricia will get us going 0:01:08.209 --> 0:01:12.140 with more of the questions you've sent to Open Line. Hey, Tricia, 0:01:12.170 --> 0:01:15.110 the mailbag is getting smaller. Isn't it a little bit. 0:01:15.140 --> 0:01:15.949 Yeah, but. 0:01:16.130 --> 0:01:17.899 I have to speed up my answers, right? 0:01:18.140 --> 0:01:20.209 We we took we took quite a bit of time 0:01:20.209 --> 0:01:22.880 on some of those, but that's good. It's it's good. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.580 And you're teaching us through them on how to do 0:01:25.580 --> 0:01:30.619 the Bible study things and how to read the scripture better. 0:01:30.650 --> 0:01:35.959 Yeah. Read it in context. Yeah. Understand the historical setting. 0:01:35.990 --> 0:01:37.970 You know, when you think about it, we had a 0:01:37.970 --> 0:01:42.140 question about baptism. And boy, how often have people heard about, uh, 0:01:42.140 --> 0:01:46.640 Jewish ritual immersion as background to baptism doesn't happen very much. 0:01:46.670 --> 0:01:47.000 No it. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.180 Doesn't. Yeah. And it just helps to shed much more 0:01:50.180 --> 0:01:52.430 light on now, what we read in the New Testament 0:01:52.430 --> 0:01:55.130 or in the Old Testament to understand what those look like. 0:01:55.700 --> 0:01:56.480 All right. Anyway. 0:01:56.750 --> 0:01:57.770 Let's go back to questions. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.090 Okay. Don wrote us from Illinois. She listens to WLM. 0:02:01.090 --> 0:02:05.590 Psalm 66, verse 18 says, if I had been aware 0:02:05.590 --> 0:02:08.169 of malice in my own heart, the Lord would not 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:13.210 have listened. Is this for both believers and non-believers, or 0:02:13.210 --> 0:02:14.950 is it for one or the other? 0:02:16.389 --> 0:02:19.810 Well, I think it's this is a pretty simple answer. 0:02:19.810 --> 0:02:21.730 I think this is true of us when we pray. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.010 I think that first of all, God does hear the 0:02:24.010 --> 0:02:28.690 prayers of non-believers. I know this for a fact because 0:02:28.690 --> 0:02:35.080 of acts. When Peter relates the story of Cornelius. It 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.650 says to the angel that he says that the angel 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.970 told Cornelius, uh, that the Lord has heard your prayers. 0:02:42.970 --> 0:02:45.700 And now send for Peter, and he will come and 0:02:45.700 --> 0:02:48.010 give you a message by which you will be saved. 0:02:48.220 --> 0:02:51.340 So Cornelius was not a saved man. God heard his 0:02:51.340 --> 0:02:55.840 prayers and sent Peter. So God, you know God's big 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.200 enough that he can hear the prayers of those who 0:02:59.230 --> 0:03:03.070 don't even know him yet. And that's that's great. You know, 0:03:03.070 --> 0:03:05.410 if you seek me, you'll find me. If you search 0:03:05.410 --> 0:03:07.690 for me with all your heart. That's talking about people 0:03:07.690 --> 0:03:10.960 who don't know the Lord. And and yet if they're 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:15.910 seeking God with a sincere heart, God will respond. And I, 0:03:15.940 --> 0:03:17.860 by the way, think that it's the Lord that puts 0:03:17.860 --> 0:03:22.899 that seeking into their hearts to start with. So, uh, anyway, 0:03:22.900 --> 0:03:27.340 so but as in terms of a believer, I think 0:03:27.340 --> 0:03:31.030 it's saying if if we are aware of sin in 0:03:31.030 --> 0:03:34.240 our life and don't care about it, don't confess it. Uh, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.350 we don't have any assurance that God will hear our prayers. Uh, 0:03:38.350 --> 0:03:40.870 in first John, this is a that was an Old 0:03:40.900 --> 0:03:45.640 Testament verse that says it, but, uh, Psalm 6618 but 0:03:45.670 --> 0:03:52.900 in first John chapter three, I'm turning to it. You 0:03:52.930 --> 0:03:57.600 hear the pages turning. Uh, verse 21. Here's a very 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:07.140 important verse. It says, dear friends. Uh. I think I 0:04:07.140 --> 0:04:10.110 have the verse wrong, but I'm going to find it. Uh, 0:04:10.830 --> 0:04:13.320 it says if our conscience doesn't condemn us, we have 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.289 confidence before God and can receive whatever we ask from him, 0:04:16.290 --> 0:04:18.720 because we keep his commands and do what is pleasing 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.330 in his sight. Now this is his command that we 0:04:21.330 --> 0:04:25.350 believe in the name of his son. Uh, and so 0:04:25.350 --> 0:04:29.549 I think that's that's a crucial aspect that when we 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:34.140 have if we're hiding sin in our heart, our conscience 0:04:34.140 --> 0:04:37.440 will condemn us, and we won't have any assurance of 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.920 of God hearing our prayers. Uh, and. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.110 Also, first John 321. 0:04:43.140 --> 0:04:49.380 Yeah. Verse 321 through 23 through 23. Uh, and, you know, 0:04:49.470 --> 0:04:51.719 it also says, if that we hide sin in our heart, 0:04:51.750 --> 0:04:54.659 God won't hear our prayers. I think that's important that 0:04:54.660 --> 0:04:58.409 we remember that. Uh, but we have to have the 0:04:58.410 --> 0:05:00.600 confidence that God is hearing our prayers the way we 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.670 do that as we confess our sins. He's faithful and 0:05:02.670 --> 0:05:06.330 just to forgive our sins. And then not only does 0:05:06.330 --> 0:05:08.550 he cleanse us, but it opens that door of fellowship 0:05:08.550 --> 0:05:11.580 and prayer, and then it gives us confidence before him 0:05:11.580 --> 0:05:12.750 when we pray. 0:05:14.730 --> 0:05:18.810 I have several questions, but first, I guess is in 0:05:18.810 --> 0:05:24.419 the Psalm 66. Can is that is that something we 0:05:24.420 --> 0:05:30.810 can apply to us? Um, because it's Old Testament and 0:05:30.810 --> 0:05:33.779 it's someone else praying. It doesn't say who. It's just 0:05:33.810 --> 0:05:36.690 a song, a psalm. Yeah. Um, I don't know who 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:40.740 the author is, but is that. Is this a prayer 0:05:40.740 --> 0:05:45.839 for everyone, or is this this? This writer is just 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.750 kind of saying, this is what I found in my life. 0:05:49.260 --> 0:05:51.779 No, I think it's a god, you know? Remember that 0:05:51.779 --> 0:05:55.740 the scriptures were written by the people of God for 0:05:55.740 --> 0:06:00.270 the faithful remnant of God. So even the Psalms were 0:06:00.270 --> 0:06:01.140 written that way. 0:06:01.170 --> 0:06:03.480 So like a song is written today, or a hymn 0:06:03.510 --> 0:06:06.960 that they're writing it kind of for the general worship 0:06:06.990 --> 0:06:09.089 of the population to worship. Okay. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.219 Well, yeah, but it was it was not for the general. 0:06:11.310 --> 0:06:12.869 A lot of people think that the Bible is the 0:06:12.870 --> 0:06:15.390 Book of Israel, like a book written for Israel. It 0:06:15.390 --> 0:06:17.789 was written for the faithful remnant of Israel. It was 0:06:17.790 --> 0:06:21.599 written for the 7000 that didn't bow the knee to Baal. Not. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.710 Not for everyone. It was for the remnant. Yeah. And. 0:06:25.710 --> 0:06:34.800 And what? What happens is that there's a, uh, uh, 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:39.180 there's a a confidence that that's that's the way the 0:06:39.180 --> 0:06:43.020 Psalms are. The, the heart cry of believers. And I 0:06:43.020 --> 0:06:47.700 think today, uh, as we look at the Psalms, uh, 0:06:48.330 --> 0:06:50.429 the same thing is true. I mean, how many of 0:06:50.430 --> 0:06:55.010 us read through the Psalms and it expresses our angst, our. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:59.870 Our stress. Our. Our love. Our devotion. They. They are. 0:06:59.900 --> 0:07:02.570 And in fact, you know who used the Psalms that way? 0:07:02.570 --> 0:07:07.969 The Lord Jesus himself. Mm. Right. Uh, that's why Dietrich 0:07:07.970 --> 0:07:11.150 Bonhoeffer called the Psalms the prayer book of the Messiah. 0:07:11.180 --> 0:07:14.840 So I think that it's okay for us to say that, uh, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.420 if I had been aware of malice in my heart, 0:07:17.930 --> 0:07:20.060 the Lord would not have listened if I just went 0:07:20.060 --> 0:07:22.970 to God and say, I know that I'm sinning. I'm. 0:07:22.970 --> 0:07:25.250 I'm holding on to this sin. But you better hear 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:29.090 me anyway. Uh, I think, you know, we need to 0:07:29.090 --> 0:07:32.150 confess our sin and restore that fellowship with him. Uh, 0:07:32.150 --> 0:07:34.700 to have confidence when we pray. 0:07:35.300 --> 0:07:38.390 And these are these are sins. So for both of these, 0:07:38.390 --> 0:07:41.450 for the First Corinthians, I'm sorry for first John three, 0:07:41.450 --> 0:07:45.470 and then also this verse in Psalm 66. It's the 0:07:45.470 --> 0:07:49.040 sins that we're aware of. And so as we're continuing 0:07:49.070 --> 0:07:52.630 to walk by faith every day, and the Holy Spirit 0:07:52.660 --> 0:07:55.600 makes us aware of sins in our lives like we 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.630 could have been blind to them. But now you know. 0:07:58.660 --> 0:08:01.210 Now our eyes are open to. Oh, I've been holding 0:08:01.210 --> 0:08:04.090 on to pride in this area. Or I've been coveting 0:08:04.090 --> 0:08:08.650 in this area that that's when, um. Yeah, that's when 0:08:08.650 --> 0:08:11.080 the prayers would stop getting to God. 0:08:11.230 --> 0:08:14.050 That's that's when we won't have confidence that our prayers 0:08:14.050 --> 0:08:17.410 are coming to God. That's it. And you're right. Exactly that. 0:08:17.410 --> 0:08:20.800 I think if God revealed by his spirit every sin 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.240 that we're involved in, we'd be overwhelmed. Yeah. Yeah. I 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:25.750 would just. 0:08:26.350 --> 0:08:26.740 I. 0:08:26.740 --> 0:08:29.380 Would just collapse under the pressure. God is very gracious. 0:08:29.380 --> 0:08:34.720 He he he deals with issues gradually, not instantaneously. Uh, 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.720 that's why there's a growth process that happens for us. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.780 It doesn't happen. You know, sometimes people are like, well, 0:08:40.809 --> 0:08:44.050 why in the world am I not perfectly holy now? Well. 0:08:46.059 --> 0:08:48.939 It's a growth process. It takes time. Okay. 0:08:48.970 --> 0:08:52.929 So all right. Thank you for that deeper dive into 0:08:52.929 --> 0:08:55.450 that verse for us. And thanks for that question, Dawn. 0:08:55.450 --> 0:08:59.170 We had another question from a listener who says, I 0:08:59.170 --> 0:09:02.079 was told I have a rebellious nature, and even though 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.780 I'm born again, that I will go to hell. How 0:09:04.780 --> 0:09:07.300 do I get rid of the rebellious nature in me? 0:09:07.660 --> 0:09:13.390 Well. There's a few things there. If you're born again, 0:09:13.390 --> 0:09:15.819 then why would you go to hell? I mean, the 0:09:15.820 --> 0:09:19.540 Bible says that. That if we believe in Jesus, uh. 0:09:19.540 --> 0:09:23.110 And you'll be saved. Acts 1631. Believe on the Lord 0:09:23.110 --> 0:09:26.860 Jesus and you will be saved. Paul tells the the 0:09:26.860 --> 0:09:35.410 Philippian jailer, uh, actually, uh, if we receive him, even 0:09:35.410 --> 0:09:38.530 believe on his name first, John chapter one tells us 0:09:38.530 --> 0:09:43.179 we become children of God. We can't be unadopted out 0:09:43.179 --> 0:09:48.870 of God's family. Uh, and so here's the other question. 0:09:48.870 --> 0:09:54.989 Who doesn't have a rebellious nature? Mm. Uh, that a 0:09:54.990 --> 0:09:58.770 rebellious nature. I read when I, I read these questions 0:09:58.770 --> 0:10:01.439 in advance. I rarely do that. But I did it today, 0:10:01.470 --> 0:10:06.450 and I thought of Romans three, where verses nine through 20, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.990 where it talks about what we're all like, we're all rebellious. 0:10:10.230 --> 0:10:13.050 That's just what we are. And and you say, wait, 0:10:13.050 --> 0:10:16.320 but what if we're born again? Are we rebellious then? Yes, 0:10:16.350 --> 0:10:20.040 of course we're rebellious. It's the flesh. So here's what I. 0:10:20.070 --> 0:10:22.050 Here's the answer. What do you do to deal with 0:10:22.050 --> 0:10:25.920 the rebellious nature? Romans 813 put to death the deeds 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.140 of the flesh by the power of the Holy Spirit. 0:10:28.590 --> 0:10:31.440 You know, we have to starve the deeds of the flesh. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.800 That's part of spiritual disciplines. And so that's one thing 0:10:34.830 --> 0:10:37.260 to deal with. Romans 12 one and two deals with 0:10:37.260 --> 0:10:40.680 presenting ourselves as living sacrifices and being transformed by the 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.380 renewing of our minds. We need to renew the way 0:10:43.380 --> 0:10:45.540 we think, and that will help us deal with that 0:10:45.570 --> 0:10:50.309 rebellious spirit that we have. And then I have the, the, 0:10:50.309 --> 0:10:56.189 the I thought the the way we ultimately finally deal with, 0:10:56.370 --> 0:11:00.059 with our rebellious nature is we have to die, not 0:11:00.059 --> 0:11:03.120 just die to self. We have to actually die. Because 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.189 what happens when we die? We go to be with 0:11:05.190 --> 0:11:07.710 the Lord. And first John three two says, when we 0:11:07.710 --> 0:11:11.609 see him, we shall be like him, and then we 0:11:11.610 --> 0:11:15.329 won't have a rebellious nature. So right now we're growing 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.059 and growing less and less rebellious, but we'll be rebellious 0:11:18.059 --> 0:11:20.219 to the very end, and then we'll die, and then 0:11:20.220 --> 0:11:22.920 we'll be like him, and he will transform us. I 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:27.420 think that's why the great promise in John 637 through 40. Uh, 0:11:27.420 --> 0:11:30.120 I really emphasized that Jesus always does the will of 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.700 the father. The will of the father is that he 0:11:32.700 --> 0:11:35.490 not lose one of us. Right? But then it says, 0:11:35.490 --> 0:11:39.150 but raise him up on the last day. I might 0:11:39.150 --> 0:11:42.150 think he could lose me because of my sin, but no, 0:11:42.150 --> 0:11:44.550 he promises I'll go to be with him and he'll 0:11:44.570 --> 0:11:49.220 resurrect me physically and I will have a holy, righteous 0:11:49.220 --> 0:11:53.090 life then like him. Because when I see him, I 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.540 will be like him. So anyway, that's the promise that 0:11:56.540 --> 0:11:59.360 we have. I think we should take a break here. Yeah. Uh, 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:04.040 when we come back, we'll take more of your questions 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.680 that you've sent in. So glad for this special all 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.490 mailbag edition of Open Line. 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We're 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.059 talking about the questions you've mailed in to the mailbag. 0:14:11.059 --> 0:14:16.130 It's an all mailbag, all day, all Open Line mailbag edition. 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.950 Did I say that right? All mailbag, all the time 0:14:18.950 --> 0:14:21.650 edition of Open Line. That's how to say it. But 0:14:21.650 --> 0:14:24.440 I am so glad that. I mean, they've been really 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.750 piling up, Tricia. So we're doing our best to get 0:14:26.750 --> 0:14:30.140 through them. Yes we are. So yeah. And there's some really. 0:14:30.170 --> 0:14:32.000 You said to me that there are some questions that 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:32.990 we hardly ever get. 0:14:33.020 --> 0:14:36.230 Yes, I love that. So keep sending those in. 0:14:36.260 --> 0:14:38.210 Yeah that's great. Well let's go ahead. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.360 All right. Norman Illinois listens to WNBA and says, can 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:47.330 you please explain Luke 941 which says, Jesus replied, you 0:14:47.330 --> 0:14:51.920 unbelieving and rebellious generation, how long will I be with 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.070 you and put up with you? Bring your son here. 0:14:55.100 --> 0:14:58.310 She says, it seems so harsh and out of place. 0:14:58.340 --> 0:15:02.000 Yeah, well, first of all, we never expect the Lord 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:09.230 Jesus to say anything corrective or challenging because we actually 0:15:09.230 --> 0:15:12.170 don't see him as the Lord of creation. We mostly 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:16.370 see him as our therapist in chief. And I'm not 0:15:16.370 --> 0:15:20.780 surprised sometimes when the Lord Jesus, as Lord expresses. I mean, 0:15:20.780 --> 0:15:23.780 he's the very same one that said some of the 0:15:23.780 --> 0:15:25.850 things that we read in the Old Testament of God 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:30.770 speaking to Israel, and we say, whoa, that seems awfully harsh. 0:15:31.580 --> 0:15:34.520 That's the Lord Jesus speaking to them as well. He 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.430 is the God of creation, the Lord of creation, and 0:15:37.430 --> 0:15:38.750 that's why he says it. Now, if you look at 0:15:38.750 --> 0:15:43.890 the context here. I think this is really crucial. It's 0:15:43.890 --> 0:15:48.420 in Luke chapter nine. Uh, she cites verse 41, but 0:15:48.420 --> 0:15:53.040 the story starts earlier in verse 37. Uh, there's a man, uh, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.680 from the crowd who cried out, teacher, I beg you 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.650 to look at my son, because he's my only child. 0:15:58.650 --> 0:16:01.980 Often a spirit seizes him. Suddenly he shrieks. It throws 0:16:01.980 --> 0:16:05.430 him into convulsions. It describes all the terrible things. I 0:16:05.430 --> 0:16:09.000 begged your disciples to drive it out, but they couldn't. 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.890 Now we think the Lord Jesus is speaking to the man. 0:16:13.890 --> 0:16:18.510 He says, you unbelieving and rebellious generation, how long will 0:16:18.540 --> 0:16:23.280 I be with you and put up with you? But 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:28.590 those last two youths are plural. In Greek. We don't 0:16:28.590 --> 0:16:32.760 have the plural second person in English, but uh uh. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:38.430 And then bring your son here. Your son is singular. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.780 The Lord Jesus wasn't speaking to the man when he 0:16:42.780 --> 0:16:46.410 said that he was speaking to the crowd who were 0:16:46.410 --> 0:16:50.550 being unbelieving and doubtful and saying, your disciples couldn't help 0:16:50.550 --> 0:16:55.230 this man. Your disciples were treating him. They're weak. They 0:16:55.230 --> 0:17:00.210 couldn't deal with this and that. So they were having 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.810 sort of a cynical spirit, the crowd that was there. 0:17:03.930 --> 0:17:07.260 The Lord Jesus deals with the crowd's cynicism, and then 0:17:07.260 --> 0:17:09.570 he turns to the man and says, bring your son here. 0:17:10.230 --> 0:17:15.600 And then when he does that, he rebuked the unclean spirit, 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.090 cured the boy, and gave him back to his father. 0:17:18.090 --> 0:17:22.590 And they were all astonished at the greatness of God, 0:17:22.590 --> 0:17:25.590 who was astonished at the greatness of God. The people 0:17:25.590 --> 0:17:28.409 who were there, being cynical and thinking that this child 0:17:28.410 --> 0:17:33.030 could not be helped. So just remember who it is 0:17:33.030 --> 0:17:37.939 that that second person plural use twice in that verse. 0:17:37.970 --> 0:17:43.340 That is, how long will I be with you and 0:17:43.340 --> 0:17:46.760 put up with you? You're so cynical. You don't know 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.510 how powerful God is. I can deal with this. And 0:17:50.510 --> 0:17:53.869 then he does. And he's very gracious to the man 0:17:53.869 --> 0:17:55.550 who has the great need. 0:17:56.180 --> 0:18:00.710 So. Well, how how do we when we have a 0:18:00.710 --> 0:18:03.470 question like this and we're looking at it, it just 0:18:03.470 --> 0:18:06.470 says you. How do we find out if I just 0:18:06.470 --> 0:18:10.610 have my Bible translation? Where would I go to? Um, 0:18:10.730 --> 0:18:12.080 I didn't look it up. 0:18:12.740 --> 0:18:16.730 I didn't look it up in the Moody Bible Commentary. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.490 It may address it there. I don't know, but I 0:18:19.490 --> 0:18:22.159 think that you could look it up. I think everyone 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.790 should have 1 or 2 Bible commentaries. Just general Bible commentaries. 0:18:25.790 --> 0:18:29.330 The two I recommend are the Moody Bible Commentary and 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.420 what people would think it's its competitor, but I love 0:18:32.420 --> 0:18:36.230 it too. It's the Bible Knowledge commentary That's a two 0:18:36.230 --> 0:18:41.030 volume commentary. And probably if you look at those two, 0:18:41.060 --> 0:18:42.350 you'll find the answer. 0:18:42.380 --> 0:18:43.100 Okay. 0:18:43.790 --> 0:18:44.960 That's what I would say. 0:18:44.990 --> 0:18:47.629 All right. Well thank you. Thank you for the insight 0:18:47.630 --> 0:18:50.930 into the plural as well, which helps us understand that 0:18:50.930 --> 0:18:53.480 passage more, because you could see if you look back 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:59.479 at verse 37, like you did with that context that matters, right? Context. Context. Context. Yeah. Um, 0:18:59.510 --> 0:19:03.979 a large crowd met him. And so you know that 0:19:03.980 --> 0:19:08.180 he is with a crowd, but but we wouldn't necessarily 0:19:08.180 --> 0:19:10.100 know that he's talking to the crowd or to the man, 0:19:10.130 --> 0:19:13.940 because it's like the same passage of him talking. 0:19:13.970 --> 0:19:17.300 The clue is that the whole crowd is marveling at 0:19:17.330 --> 0:19:21.410 the at the wonder of God. Yeah, the greatness of God. So, yeah. Yeah. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.619 Okay. Well, thank you for that. Thanks for that question, Norma. 0:19:24.650 --> 0:19:26.000 Next up is and by the way. 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.480 Let's be careful not to turn the Lord Jesus into 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:36.040 a very weak, uh, I mean, In. Dorothy Sayers said, 0:19:36.070 --> 0:19:41.380 you know, we've tamed the lion of Judah, pared his claws. 0:19:41.410 --> 0:19:46.690 He's the lion of Judah. Let's remember that he's not 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:51.070 some pale curate, she said, but he's the creator of 0:19:51.070 --> 0:19:52.900 the universe. Let's remember that. 0:19:53.290 --> 0:19:55.780 So and some of the things that he was doing 0:19:55.780 --> 0:20:02.110 in his actions don't seem very, um, countercultural to us today. 0:20:02.140 --> 0:20:05.410 You know, talking to women. Well, men talk to women 0:20:05.410 --> 0:20:10.000 all the time or welcoming children. Yeah, people like kids, 0:20:10.030 --> 0:20:13.750 you know, like they don't seem that countercultural today. But 0:20:14.109 --> 0:20:18.760 at the time, they would have raised lots of eyebrows. Yeah. Um, 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.820 and so I think in addition to statements like this, 0:20:21.850 --> 0:20:25.060 those are our clues that, oh, wait, he wasn't he 0:20:25.060 --> 0:20:27.670 wasn't acting like all of the other rabbis and leaders 0:20:27.670 --> 0:20:29.139 that were around at that time. 0:20:29.170 --> 0:20:30.850 Exactly, exactly. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:36.340 Okay. Well, thank you for that. Jamie in Illinois listens 0:20:36.340 --> 0:20:40.090 to WNBA and was looking at a different verse in 0:20:40.090 --> 0:20:43.090 Luke just a few chapters later in Luke 12, and 0:20:43.090 --> 0:20:45.820 she said she's heard people quote that if you deny 0:20:45.850 --> 0:20:47.830 me in front of others, I'll deny you in front 0:20:47.830 --> 0:20:50.440 of the father. But she said, that's not what Luke 0:20:50.470 --> 0:20:54.910 12 nine says. That says that Jesus will deny you 0:20:54.910 --> 0:20:59.710 in front of God's angels. So I'm going to make 0:20:59.710 --> 0:21:04.060 her question kind of into two parts. Um, so she 0:21:04.060 --> 0:21:08.020 is asking about the angels part as part of her question. 0:21:08.020 --> 0:21:10.840 We were made a little lower than the angels, but 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.050 that makes it seem like angels don't have much authority. 0:21:14.050 --> 0:21:18.100 So the verse says, again, this is Luke 12 eight 0:21:18.130 --> 0:21:21.850 and nine. And I say to you, anyone who acknowledges 0:21:21.850 --> 0:21:25.210 me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge 0:21:25.210 --> 0:21:28.210 him before the angels of God. But whoever denies me 0:21:28.210 --> 0:21:31.389 before men will be denied before the angels of God. 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.440 do the angels have some sort of authority that they 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.280 will be judges. Will we even see the father during 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:40.180 that time? 0:21:40.420 --> 0:21:43.990 Yeah, well, I think the parallel passage from Matthew ten. 0:21:44.020 --> 0:21:49.149 Matthew 1033 is really important because it says anyone, everyone 0:21:49.150 --> 0:21:52.359 who will acknowledge me before men, I will also acknowledge 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:56.680 him before my father, uh, in heaven. And whoever denies 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.980 me before men, I will also deny him before my 0:21:59.980 --> 0:22:03.490 father in heaven. So it's the parallel passage is addressing 0:22:03.490 --> 0:22:06.520 who the judge is. That's the father. Uh, I don't 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:10.480 think the angels have any kind of judicial authority at 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.800 all over humanity. They're not the jury, but the angels 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:19.150 of God are what I would call the gallery. You know, 0:22:19.180 --> 0:22:23.290 in a court, you've got the the judge, you've got 0:22:23.290 --> 0:22:28.540 the jury, uh, you've got the prosecutor, you've got the defendant, 0:22:28.540 --> 0:22:31.290 but you also have the gallery, The people who are 0:22:31.290 --> 0:22:33.870 just interested in what's going on there, and they sit 0:22:33.869 --> 0:22:37.710 there and they watch. Well, it talks about how angels 0:22:37.710 --> 0:22:42.870 long to look into our salvation. It talks about how angels, 0:22:42.900 --> 0:22:45.179 you know, women are to wear head coverings. And it 0:22:45.180 --> 0:22:50.790 says because of the angels. And that's in first Corinthians, uh, 0:22:50.790 --> 0:22:55.350 chapter 11, I believe it is. Uh, but because of 0:22:55.350 --> 0:23:00.630 the angels. Well, why, uh, the reason is that the 0:23:00.630 --> 0:23:05.609 head covering in that time was a cultural expression of submission. 0:23:05.609 --> 0:23:13.530 And angels were very interested in issues, observing issues of submission, 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:17.580 obedience and rebellion. Obviously, you could know why, because of 0:23:17.580 --> 0:23:21.119 the rebellion of the enemy of Satan and so forth. 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:24.060 So there's all this interest that angels have to see 0:23:24.090 --> 0:23:28.379 in terms of God's relationship with humanity. And so there 0:23:28.410 --> 0:23:31.940 the gallery and they are there watching. And that's why 0:23:31.940 --> 0:23:34.820 he says, whoever denies me before men will be denied 0:23:34.820 --> 0:23:37.939 before in front of the angels of God who are 0:23:37.940 --> 0:23:40.100 very interested in this. But the judge who's going to 0:23:40.130 --> 0:23:43.040 make the decision is the father in heaven. That's what 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:44.750 Matthew 1033 says. 0:23:44.930 --> 0:23:50.510 Okay, so then my my follow up then is why 0:23:51.470 --> 0:23:56.149 I guess they're they seem like they're addressing different, um, 0:23:56.420 --> 0:24:01.280 different groups. Like one is I'll acknowledge him before my father. 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.429 One is I'll acknowledge him before the angels of God, 0:24:04.550 --> 0:24:11.240 which doesn't seem as, uh, important or is as bad, 0:24:11.750 --> 0:24:12.679 I guess. 0:24:13.010 --> 0:24:16.790 Well, I suspect the Lord Jesus said both. 0:24:16.820 --> 0:24:17.930 Okay at. 0:24:17.930 --> 0:24:21.050 The same time. Matthew picked what he thought was the 0:24:21.050 --> 0:24:25.130 most memorable part. Luke, writing in the Greco-Roman world, might 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.730 have thought that people's are are alert that there are 0:24:28.730 --> 0:24:31.399 going to be angels watching this. And they had a 0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:35.300 very high view of angels. And so that's that could 0:24:35.300 --> 0:24:38.150 be why he said that. I'm not exactly sure. But 0:24:38.180 --> 0:24:41.899 you know, I don't think that he contradicts I think 0:24:41.900 --> 0:24:45.680 that what we have is when we have, uh, Matthew 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:50.330 and Luke, they complement each other and they fulfill they 0:24:50.330 --> 0:24:52.370 they complete one another. And I think if we want 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:54.080 to know, if we want to go back to the event, 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.200 what did the Lord Jesus really say? He said, well, 0:24:57.230 --> 0:25:00.050 whoever denies me before men, I will deny him before 0:25:00.050 --> 0:25:03.859 my father in heaven with all the angels watching. Okay, 0:25:03.890 --> 0:25:05.960 that's that's what I would say. 0:25:05.990 --> 0:25:09.320 Okay. Which makes sense if you're picturing a courtroom like 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.109 you were explaining with a gallery. And so it's before 0:25:12.109 --> 0:25:14.840 everyone who would be in there, which would include the 0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.450 angels who were watching. Yeah. Okay. 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.300 Who are I think it's so interesting to me that 0:25:20.390 --> 0:25:23.360 in Scripture, it keeps saying over and over that, uh, 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.760 angels are very concerned about seeing how God deals with us. Why? 0:25:27.910 --> 0:25:30.970 Why are they concerned about our salvation? Why do they 0:25:30.970 --> 0:25:33.760 long to look at it? Because God did not redeem 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:37.750 angels when they fell. He redeemed humanity. It shows his 0:25:37.750 --> 0:25:42.129 great love. God's. They're interested in our obedience and submission. 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.550 They'd like to see that. So those are the reasons. Well, 0:25:45.550 --> 0:25:47.770 we'll come back with more questions you've sent in. This 0:25:47.770 --> 0:25:49.929 is Michael Ray Dolnick and Tricia McMillan. You're listening to 0:25:49.960 --> 0:26:01.389 Open Line. Stay with us. We're so glad that Febc 0:26:01.420 --> 0:26:04.750 partners with Open Line with Doctor Michael Ray Dolnick bringing 0:26:04.750 --> 0:26:09.070 the Febc mailbag every week. Learn how far East Broadcasting 0:26:09.070 --> 0:26:12.910 Company is taking Christ to the world at febc. Org 0:26:12.910 --> 0:26:16.450 on their weekly podcast. Until all have heard with Ed Cannon, 0:26:16.450 --> 0:26:20.050 you'll hear stories of lives changed by Messiah all across 0:26:20.050 --> 0:26:22.929 the globe. Again, you can hear the podcast when you 0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:39.310 visit febc. Org That's Febc. Org. Welcome back. So glad 0:26:39.310 --> 0:26:41.230 to be with you. Tricia McMillan is here with me. 0:26:41.230 --> 0:26:44.230 I'm Michael Ray Dolnick, and we've been going through the 0:26:44.230 --> 0:26:47.890 questions you've sent in. And I think it's just amazing 0:26:47.890 --> 0:26:51.490 that when everyone reads the Bible, how many questions come 0:26:51.490 --> 0:26:53.350 up that I have never thought of? And I'm always 0:26:53.350 --> 0:26:56.830 amazed when I see questions that are in here. And 0:26:56.830 --> 0:26:59.619 I think I think that's pretty cool. You know, uh, 0:27:00.070 --> 0:27:02.500 that's why I think we need to study the Bible and, 0:27:02.500 --> 0:27:04.300 and I think it's one of the reasons we need 0:27:04.300 --> 0:27:06.340 to study it in a group. Now we have a 0:27:06.340 --> 0:27:08.890 pretty big group. It's all across America. That's what we're 0:27:08.890 --> 0:27:11.950 doing here. But, you know, home groups. You ever sit 0:27:11.950 --> 0:27:15.970 in a home group Bible study and and someone raises something. 0:27:15.970 --> 0:27:18.280 You say, I never saw that, right. Or I never 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.770 wondered that. I think it's one of the great things. 0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.830 So I'm grateful for our Bible study across America because 0:27:23.859 --> 0:27:26.199 we've got a big group saying things, don't you think? 0:27:26.230 --> 0:27:29.110 I do, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fun because. 0:27:29.140 --> 0:27:31.780 Because many, many times questions come into open line and 0:27:31.780 --> 0:27:36.040 I say, oh yeah, I wonder that too now, because 0:27:36.070 --> 0:27:40.030 I also had never seen that verse I had. But 0:27:40.030 --> 0:27:42.040 you know, it's it's not seems like it. You've never 0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:43.420 seen it. Right, right. Yeah. 0:27:44.650 --> 0:27:46.570 Yeah. Well let's go ahead. What do. 0:27:46.570 --> 0:27:49.240 We got. Next question is from Doris in Illinois, listens 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:53.320 to WNBA and is looking at first Corinthians six, verses 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:58.570 two and three specifically. But first Corinthians six one through 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.469 eight is about, uh, well, mine has the heading The 0:28:02.470 --> 0:28:07.300 Problem of Litigation in Heathen courts, but it's the ones about, um, 0:28:07.990 --> 0:28:09.280 just court cases. 0:28:09.310 --> 0:28:14.410 The context is why we shouldn't judge go to outside courts. 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:18.879 Yeah, yeah. And so specifically the two verses she's wondering about, say, 0:28:18.910 --> 0:28:22.090 or don't you know that the saints will judge the world? 0:28:22.090 --> 0:28:24.270 And if the world is judged by you, are you 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.170 unworthy to judge the smallest cases? Don't you know that 0:28:28.170 --> 0:28:33.930 we will judge angels, not to mention ordinary matters? So. 0:28:34.020 --> 0:28:37.740 Well, well, this is why believers don't take believers to court. Yes. 0:28:37.770 --> 0:28:39.060 Other believers, yes. 0:28:39.090 --> 0:28:41.820 But so that he has gotten out of this, this 0:28:41.820 --> 0:28:45.840 passage before. But but there's a lot of like, are 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.720 we judging angels? Yeah. Well. 0:28:49.470 --> 0:28:52.200 It says not only that will judge the world. I 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.840 was thinking about that. I said, well, in in Matthew 0:28:54.870 --> 0:29:01.410 chapter 19 and verse 28, it says, I assure you, 0:29:01.410 --> 0:29:03.900 in the Messianic age, when the Son of Man sits 0:29:03.900 --> 0:29:07.590 on his glorious throne, you who have followed me, he's 0:29:07.590 --> 0:29:12.060 talking to the 12 will sit on 12 thrones judging 0:29:12.060 --> 0:29:15.570 the 12 tribes of Israel. So right there it talks 0:29:15.570 --> 0:29:20.400 about the 12 disciples being the judges of the 12 tribes, 0:29:20.430 --> 0:29:25.340 the the nations of Israel in the messianic kingdom. That 0:29:25.340 --> 0:29:27.890 makes sense. So that we do have, you know, the 0:29:27.890 --> 0:29:31.580 apostles had authority to judge. And then it says, don't 0:29:31.580 --> 0:29:38.840 you know we will judge angels? Well, probably that's referring 0:29:38.870 --> 0:29:50.000 to fallen angels in Second Peter chapter two. And verse. 0:29:50.810 --> 0:29:54.590 Let's see. Uh, verse four is one place where we 0:29:54.590 --> 0:29:56.990 could find it. For if God didn't spare the angels 0:29:56.990 --> 0:30:02.120 who sinned, but threw them down into Tartarus, there awaiting judgment, 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:07.670 and delivered them to keep in chains of darkness until judgment. 0:30:08.450 --> 0:30:12.980 And then verse nine, the Lord knows how to rescue 0:30:13.010 --> 0:30:17.990 the godly from trials. I think this is it. Yeah. Uh. 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:22.790 And to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the Day 0:30:22.790 --> 0:30:27.290 of Judgment. So I think we will probably judge angels 0:30:27.290 --> 0:30:30.950 on the Day of Judgment. Uh, I'm not sure why. 0:30:30.980 --> 0:30:35.570 Maybe God doesn't waste his time with judging angels and 0:30:35.570 --> 0:30:40.010 delegates it to believers. Uh, but that does appear to 0:30:40.010 --> 0:30:45.110 be something that we will be involved with. Uh, and, uh, 0:30:45.620 --> 0:30:52.610 also in the book of Jude, verse six, a very 0:30:52.610 --> 0:30:55.790 similar book to Second Peter. He has kept, uh, these 0:30:55.790 --> 0:30:59.930 fallen angels, uh, with eternal chains in darkness for the 0:30:59.930 --> 0:31:02.690 day of judgment, of the great day. The angels who 0:31:02.690 --> 0:31:06.080 did not keep their own position in heaven but deserted 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:10.220 their proper dwelling. They fell. Uh, they followed Satan. They're 0:31:10.220 --> 0:31:12.680 going to be judged on the day of judgment. And, uh, 0:31:13.610 --> 0:31:15.110 it looks like. Tricia, you're going to be part of 0:31:15.140 --> 0:31:16.970 that judging authority. 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:22.000 Because Saints here refers to all believers. Yeah. Okay. Which 0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.180 I also don't. That's not typically how I think of 0:31:25.210 --> 0:31:26.080 the verse. Yeah. 0:31:26.110 --> 0:31:28.810 Saints we're not. Usually when we think of saints, we 0:31:28.810 --> 0:31:32.710 think of especially holy people. Yes. We're all made holy 0:31:32.710 --> 0:31:36.820 by faith in Jesus. And we're the saints. So. Huh? 0:31:37.150 --> 0:31:40.750 Yeah. All right, well, Doris, thank you for showing me 0:31:40.750 --> 0:31:42.250 that verse that I yeah. 0:31:42.370 --> 0:31:44.739 I don't I don't worry about it. I figure if 0:31:44.740 --> 0:31:46.960 God's going to have me involved in judgment, he'll know 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:51.760 what to do to to give me, uh, the guidance 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.040 for how to do it. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah. 0:31:54.070 --> 0:31:57.250 Okay. Well, thank you for that question. Next question is 0:31:57.250 --> 0:32:01.630 from Paul and Patricia. They live in Minnesota. Um, they 0:32:01.660 --> 0:32:04.930 are reading through the Bible for the umpteenth time there 0:32:04.930 --> 0:32:07.600 in Exodus and have a question about the directions that 0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:13.060 God gives to Moses. Uh, why is the phrase fine 0:32:13.060 --> 0:32:18.130 twined linen used over and over? What is it and 0:32:18.130 --> 0:32:21.490 what is the significance of it being fine twined? And 0:32:21.490 --> 0:32:25.900 then also a couple other words that that, um, Patricia 0:32:25.900 --> 0:32:28.840 was the one writing it, but, um, that showed up 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:34.840 our tenors and filets in building of the tabernacle. Okay. 0:32:34.870 --> 0:32:38.350 So the fine twined linen, um, I found a few passages. 0:32:38.350 --> 0:32:43.300 Exodus 39 talked about the sash that was on Aaron 0:32:43.300 --> 0:32:48.730 and his sons, and it was the sash of finely. Well, 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.520 my version I was looking at was finely spun linen 0:32:51.550 --> 0:32:58.030 of embroidered blue, purple and scarlet yarn, or fine twined linen. 0:32:58.030 --> 0:33:01.960 And there's a veil in Exodus 2631, make a veil 0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:06.160 of blue, purple and scarlet yarn and finely spun linen, 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.470 with the design of cherubim worked into it. Must have 0:33:08.470 --> 0:33:12.370 been beautiful. I think the fine linen issue is just 0:33:12.370 --> 0:33:15.120 fine linen. It's sort of like when you hear Your 0:33:15.150 --> 0:33:19.740 advertisements on the radio. I do not moody radio, but 0:33:19.740 --> 0:33:23.640 other radio things or podcasts. Sometimes I'll listen and they 0:33:23.670 --> 0:33:27.630 saying get this and this kind of sheet. You know 0:33:27.660 --> 0:33:31.320 these sheets for your your beds. Oh yes yes, yes. 0:33:31.350 --> 0:33:35.220 Where they talk about thread count. Exactly. Yes. So this 0:33:35.220 --> 0:33:39.120 is just very finely spun, very beautiful, expensive linen. That's 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.940 what that's talking about. It's the best quality linen that 0:33:41.940 --> 0:33:45.360 they could have for the Tabernacle. And it would have. 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.510 Been different from the other linens that were being used 0:33:48.660 --> 0:33:50.820 for other things, like they would have. It would have 0:33:50.820 --> 0:33:52.860 been special. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. 0:33:52.950 --> 0:33:58.260 Okay. And but Finely Twined is really, really wonderfully, finely twined. Very, 0:33:58.260 --> 0:34:03.000 very high grade linen. Okay. Uh, and then the tenors 0:34:03.030 --> 0:34:09.600 are the bands on the pillars. Uh, I'm sorry, the. 0:34:09.630 --> 0:34:13.080 Not that the Phillies are the bands on the pillars. 0:34:13.110 --> 0:34:15.169 You know, there's pillars in the tabernacle. 0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.350 And these were big pillars. Like like. 0:34:18.350 --> 0:34:21.350 Columns. Hold it up. Columns to hold it up. Like 0:34:21.350 --> 0:34:25.520 the poles. Oh, okay. More poles because it's tabernacle. Okay. 0:34:25.550 --> 0:34:31.760 And and, uh, posts, so to speak. And they put, uh, uh, 0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:36.140 bands on them that were with, uh, with gold and 0:34:36.140 --> 0:34:38.989 bronze in different places. And that's what the filets were. 0:34:39.020 --> 0:34:39.739 So there would have been. 0:34:39.739 --> 0:34:43.400 These silver bands that go on these pillars. 0:34:43.430 --> 0:34:46.460 Sometimes gold, sometimes silver. It depends on the passage that 0:34:46.460 --> 0:34:51.620 you're looking at, depending on the pillar that's there. And then, uh, tenors, 0:34:51.620 --> 0:34:54.830 I looked that up. The one with the word tenor. Yes. 0:34:54.860 --> 0:34:58.310 With these words. For according to the tenor of these words, 0:34:58.310 --> 0:35:00.500 I have made a covenant with you and with Israel. Yes. 0:35:00.530 --> 0:35:04.760 I look that up in Hebrew. Uh, that's Exodus 3427. 0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:09.560 It's the Hebrew words Alpi, which means upon the mouth. 0:35:10.190 --> 0:35:12.500 What does that mean? It it means. 0:35:12.500 --> 0:35:13.400 Great question. 0:35:13.580 --> 0:35:20.270 It means write these words for based on the sense 0:35:20.270 --> 0:35:22.460 of these words. I've made a covenant with you. That's 0:35:22.460 --> 0:35:24.410 what it means based on the sense of these words. 0:35:24.410 --> 0:35:28.340 Based on the mouth of these words, I'll p based 0:35:28.340 --> 0:35:31.370 on the the the mouth. What I have said based 0:35:31.370 --> 0:35:33.560 on the sense of these words, that's what it really means. 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:37.609 It's a it's an idiom. Now, the reason based on 0:35:37.610 --> 0:35:40.010 what I've said and tenor is still used that way. 0:35:40.010 --> 0:35:43.400 So it's there's a version that translates it like that, 0:35:43.430 --> 0:35:46.400 I think the ESV. But for the most part I 0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.970 would say this, uh, Paul and Patricia, it seems to 0:35:49.969 --> 0:35:54.380 me you're reading the King James Version. Keep reading it. 0:35:54.410 --> 0:35:57.830 It's a good version. It's a good translation. But get 0:35:57.830 --> 0:36:01.970 yourself a couple of modern translations. Get yourself the hcsb. 0:36:02.390 --> 0:36:08.330 Get yourself a new American standard. The reason I say 0:36:08.330 --> 0:36:10.820 that is when you come to these words that you think, 0:36:10.820 --> 0:36:13.890 I don't understand what this is. Go look it up 0:36:13.890 --> 0:36:18.750 in a modern translation. It'll probably tell you. So, uh, 0:36:18.750 --> 0:36:22.710 I'm not saying don't read the King James Version, but 0:36:22.710 --> 0:36:26.009 part of it is the word fillet is somewhat for 0:36:26.010 --> 0:36:32.010 bands on pillars. That's somewhat archaic. And so let's, let's 0:36:32.010 --> 0:36:36.630 use words that we understand, uh, and that's what you'll get. 0:36:36.630 --> 0:36:39.630 So even if you're reading the King James that's fine. 0:36:39.780 --> 0:36:43.620 But go over and and have a look at the, 0:36:43.650 --> 0:36:45.480 at a modern translation as well. 0:36:45.510 --> 0:36:49.200 Can I push back a little bit? Sure. Okay. For the, 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.169 the filets. So it says the hooks of the pillars 0:36:52.170 --> 0:36:55.200 and their fillets shall be of silver. I found that 0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.660 in the ESV, which I would say is a more 0:36:57.660 --> 0:36:59.279 modern translation. It is. 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.070 It is, I think it's, it's an architectural or a 0:37:02.100 --> 0:37:06.690 design term. Fillet. Okay. So it's not necessarily archaic. It 0:37:06.690 --> 0:37:10.259 just is a, not a commonly spoken more of a 0:37:10.270 --> 0:37:16.300 technical word. Okay. And so I would rather follow the hcsb, 0:37:16.330 --> 0:37:19.330 which I said, get yourself a few or the NASB, 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.610 which just says bands. Okay. 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:26.290 All right. And and one of the things that's helpful 0:37:26.290 --> 0:37:28.989 is online, even if you don't own all of these, 0:37:28.989 --> 0:37:31.330 you can just type in that verse and it will 0:37:31.330 --> 0:37:34.960 sometimes get give you like here's what the other translations 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.660 are saying, which can help to kind of give you 0:37:37.660 --> 0:37:40.750 a little more context for maybe what that word means. 0:37:40.750 --> 0:37:43.600 Or like we talked about earlier, maybe the Moody Bible 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:47.440 commentary or or another commentary may help give a little 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:51.070 more context to especially the building of the tabernacle. A 0:37:51.070 --> 0:37:54.100 lot of times they'll have more in depth charts or 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:58.240 pictures or or definitions or a Bible dictionary. 0:37:58.300 --> 0:38:00.549 Bible would be helpful too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're going 0:38:00.550 --> 0:38:03.790 to take a break here, and, uh, I'm going to 0:38:03.790 --> 0:38:06.160 get my Bible dictionary and look up fil-a. I keep 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.800 thinking filet mignon, but I don't think that's it. It's 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:13.450 a different spelling. We're coming back with more of your 0:38:13.450 --> 0:38:16.750 questions in just a moment. This is open line with 0:38:16.750 --> 0:38:19.810 Michael Angelica, and today with Tricia McMillan. We're going to 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.239 answer more of the questions you've sent in. So stay 0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:32.650 with us. The book of acts is much more than history. 0:38:32.650 --> 0:38:36.460 It's also about defending the faith. It includes the biographies 0:38:36.460 --> 0:38:40.540 of the apostles and has profound teachings about God, especially 0:38:40.540 --> 0:38:45.009 the Holy Spirit. And with Doctor Charles Ryrie's everyday Bible 0:38:45.010 --> 0:38:49.029 commentary on acts will gain a richer appreciation for how 0:38:49.030 --> 0:38:52.810 the same Holy Spirit can radically change our lives today. 0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:56.380 Request your copy with your gift of any amount. Call 0:38:56.410 --> 0:39:10.259 (888) 644-7122 or visit openline. radio.org. Welcome back. This is Michael Melnick. 0:39:10.290 --> 0:39:13.560 I'm here with Tricia McMillan and Tricia. Yes. This is 0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.140 the lightning round. All right. Okay, let's see if I 0:39:16.140 --> 0:39:17.250 can answer quickly. 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.580 Okay, let's do it. Mel in Tennessee listens to WNBA 0:39:21.270 --> 0:39:25.410 and is looking at Joshua for and wants to know 0:39:25.410 --> 0:39:28.649 if you can provide clarification on if this is one 0:39:28.650 --> 0:39:33.239 set of 12 memorial stones or two sets of memorial 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:37.230 stones that the Israelites are taking out of the Jordan. 0:39:37.500 --> 0:39:41.220 Okay, so God told Israelites the Israelites to take one 0:39:41.219 --> 0:39:44.160 set of 12 and bring them to dry land to 0:39:44.190 --> 0:39:46.169 where they were going to camp and set them up 0:39:46.170 --> 0:39:50.969 as memorial stones. They did that. In addition, Joshua wanted 0:39:50.969 --> 0:39:54.180 an additional memorial for where they took the stones, and 0:39:54.180 --> 0:39:57.719 so what he did, he also set up 12 stones 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:01.590 for a memorial. He did even more of a memorial, 0:40:01.590 --> 0:40:04.950 not disobedient, but wanting to remember even more. He set 0:40:04.980 --> 0:40:07.860 up 12 stones right in the middle of the river. 0:40:07.860 --> 0:40:11.160 And when Joshua was written, it says they still are 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.410 there to this day. They're not there to this day 0:40:13.410 --> 0:40:15.990 that we're reading it, but to this day when they 0:40:15.989 --> 0:40:19.470 were written. So there were two sets of memorial stones, 0:40:19.469 --> 0:40:23.279 one in the river and one at the in dry land. 0:40:23.580 --> 0:40:26.160 Where they camped, and the ones on dry land they 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.340 actually then took with them in verse 20 again Joshua 0:40:29.340 --> 0:40:30.450 four verse 20 took. 0:40:30.450 --> 0:40:31.140 Them to Gilgal. 0:40:31.140 --> 0:40:33.390 Where they took them. It says, those 12 stones which 0:40:33.390 --> 0:40:36.270 they had taken from the Jordan Joshua set up at Gilgal. 0:40:36.300 --> 0:40:39.540 So they had those with them so they could see 0:40:39.540 --> 0:40:42.450 that memorial. Plus there was the one that was still 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:43.200 in the Jordan. 0:40:43.230 --> 0:40:45.510 Go back to where they got them from and remember. 0:40:45.540 --> 0:40:49.740 Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. Lori in Ohio listens to 0:40:49.770 --> 0:40:56.280 Wtxf and is looking at Isaiah 43 and wants to know, 0:40:56.310 --> 0:41:00.120 would Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego have had these words when 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.420 they went into the furnace? So the words the verse 0:41:03.420 --> 0:41:06.050 specifically is Isaiah 43 two which says, I will be 0:41:06.050 --> 0:41:08.060 with you when you pass through the waters. 0:41:08.090 --> 0:41:10.759 The main thing is thinking about you. You will be 0:41:10.790 --> 0:41:12.680 is you will walk through the fire. 0:41:12.710 --> 0:41:14.840 Yeah. When you walk through the fire and the flame 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.140 will not burn you. Yeah. She has a study Bible 0:41:18.140 --> 0:41:20.960 that has the timing of the writings close of Daniel 0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.610 and of Isaiah. 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:27.620 Yeah. Well, Isaiah was written about 700 BC. That's when 0:41:27.620 --> 0:41:29.960 the book of Isaiah, when you count the kings. So 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.140 it was if you have all the kings and and such. Uh, 0:41:33.739 --> 0:41:36.320 most people would put the book of Isaiah like, I 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:40.219 think Ahaz was around 740 BC, and Hezekiah was around 0:41:40.219 --> 0:41:45.710 700 BC. So sometime after 700 BC is when the 0:41:45.710 --> 0:41:50.060 Book of Isaiah was finally compiled. Daniel and Shadrach, Meshach, 0:41:50.060 --> 0:41:57.230 and Abednego went into captivity in 605 BC, and therefore 0:41:57.230 --> 0:42:00.500 it was sometime after their three years of training that 0:42:00.500 --> 0:42:03.109 this happened. So yes, they would have had the book 0:42:03.110 --> 0:42:04.009 of Isaiah. 0:42:04.070 --> 0:42:07.790 Okay. For those who maybe are date challenged like me 0:42:07.790 --> 0:42:12.500 when it comes to BC stuff, 700 BC is before 0:42:12.530 --> 0:42:14.780 605 BC. So the numbers are. 0:42:14.780 --> 0:42:16.219 Getting smaller as you get. 0:42:16.219 --> 0:42:18.110 Closer. I always have to go. Wait a minute. So 0:42:18.110 --> 0:42:22.460 100 years later almost is when Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego 0:42:22.489 --> 0:42:26.270 would have been in the fire in the fiery furnace. Okay. 0:42:26.300 --> 0:42:31.520 So they could have known about this passage? Yep. Okay. 0:42:31.550 --> 0:42:32.600 And then that would have been an. 0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:33.200 Encouragement. 0:42:33.380 --> 0:42:35.899 Right? Yeah. You will go through the fire. I will 0:42:35.900 --> 0:42:39.260 be with you. You will not be burned. Like okay. 0:42:39.290 --> 0:42:40.130 Though they had that's. 0:42:40.130 --> 0:42:42.049 What they say. They say that they had the faith. 0:42:42.050 --> 0:42:44.690 They say to God, uh, our God is able to 0:42:44.690 --> 0:42:47.930 deliver us. Yeah, but even if he doesn't, we still 0:42:47.930 --> 0:42:51.830 will not bow down and worship the image. Yeah. So. 0:42:52.130 --> 0:42:54.290 Huh? Can you imagine? Like, I don't know, that's kind 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.180 of blows my mind a little bit that they might 0:42:56.180 --> 0:43:00.830 be quoting, um, Isaiah or at least thinking about it. 0:43:00.860 --> 0:43:04.300 Thinking about it. Yeah. While they're in the in the furnace. Okay. 0:43:04.330 --> 0:43:06.700 Okay. So I had my one of my favorite professors 0:43:06.700 --> 0:43:09.850 I had for my doctoral work, John Sailhamer. He offered 0:43:09.850 --> 0:43:12.520 a course that I took called the Old Testament in 0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:14.980 the Old Testament, the old. And it was. 0:43:14.980 --> 0:43:15.460 How? Okay. 0:43:15.489 --> 0:43:18.220 Okay. And it was how the Old Testament reads it 0:43:18.219 --> 0:43:21.070 earlier passages and builds upon it. 0:43:21.100 --> 0:43:22.330 Oh, cool. 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:23.739 Yeah, it was a great course. 0:43:23.770 --> 0:43:24.759 Yeah. 0:43:24.790 --> 0:43:27.700 So it would be something like this then would come out. 0:43:27.730 --> 0:43:30.969 And also one of our, one of his former students, 0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:34.719 Seth Postell, who's the Moody grad and a dean of 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.779 the Israel College of the Bible in the Moody Handbook 0:43:37.780 --> 0:43:41.109 of Messianic Prophecy, a book I edited. Seth Postell did 0:43:41.110 --> 0:43:44.020 an article called The Old Testament in the Old Testament. 0:43:44.260 --> 0:43:45.940 So that's very cool. We better move. 0:43:45.940 --> 0:43:50.410 On. Okay. Christine in Ohio listens to Wtxf. Um, is 0:43:50.410 --> 0:43:53.290 also in. Isaiah is what she's looking. Well, that's what 0:43:53.290 --> 0:43:55.750 I pulled for it. But she said, I know God 0:43:55.750 --> 0:43:58.480 is husband to the widow, but what is he to 0:43:58.510 --> 0:44:02.350 the widower. She is a friend who is a widower, 0:44:02.350 --> 0:44:04.600 but she's like, I can't tell my friend that God 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.870 is his husband. So how do you how does God 0:44:07.870 --> 0:44:10.000 work in that type of a situation? 0:44:10.420 --> 0:44:13.480 Well, first of all, remember this is a figurative passage 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:18.130 in Isaiah 54. It's talking about Israel's. It's not talking 0:44:18.130 --> 0:44:21.520 about a real widow there. It's talking about Israel. Indeed, 0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.730 your husband is your maker. His name is Yahweh, the 0:44:24.730 --> 0:44:27.759 Lord of hosts. The Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer. 0:44:27.790 --> 0:44:30.219 He's talking to all of Israel. He's not talking to 0:44:30.250 --> 0:44:35.260 an actual widow. Uh, he's talking about Israel and suffering 0:44:35.260 --> 0:44:39.819 and loneliness and grief and, uh, and so it's just 0:44:39.820 --> 0:44:44.920 a metaphor. You know, it's not something that's literal. And 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:50.650 I would say I wouldn't use this, uh, uh, metaphor 0:44:50.739 --> 0:44:54.489 with a man who lost his wife. I wouldn't I 0:44:54.489 --> 0:44:58.359 probably wouldn't even use this for a woman who's lost 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:04.830 her husband. I. I would stick to verses like, uh, 0:45:04.830 --> 0:45:08.129 Psalm 3418 that God is near to the brokenhearted, or 0:45:08.130 --> 0:45:11.190 Second Corinthians one four. That God the Father is the 0:45:11.190 --> 0:45:15.030 father of all comfort, or John 1426 that the Lord 0:45:15.030 --> 0:45:18.990 Jesus promised to send us the Holy Spirit, the comforter. Uh, 0:45:18.989 --> 0:45:24.870 I would say that John 1515, where the Lord Jesus says, 0:45:24.870 --> 0:45:28.680 I now call you friends, so we're not alone, because 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:32.040 the Lord Jesus says in Hebrews 13 five, I'll never 0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.830 leave you or forsake you. So those are some of 0:45:34.830 --> 0:45:38.580 the passages that probably I would use rather than trying 0:45:38.580 --> 0:45:41.190 to say, the Lord is your spouse. Okay. 0:45:41.219 --> 0:45:44.520 All right. So thank you. You want to try and 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:45.120 squeeze in one? 0:45:45.150 --> 0:45:45.330 Yeah. 0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:46.320 I can answer this quickly. 0:45:46.350 --> 0:45:50.009 Okay. Marcia in Illinois, there's a song she has heard 0:45:50.010 --> 0:45:52.890 recently that talks about. There's a great cloud of witnesses. 0:45:52.890 --> 0:45:55.740 They cheer for me. Does Hebrews 12 or any other 0:45:55.739 --> 0:45:58.350 place support that? Believers who have died before us can 0:45:58.350 --> 0:45:59.609 see our lives. 0:46:00.030 --> 0:46:01.170 Well, I. 0:46:01.170 --> 0:46:04.710 Think Hebrews 12, the cloud of witnesses are the people 0:46:04.710 --> 0:46:10.290 of faith that are described in Hebrews 11. And they 0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:14.190 are not watching us. They are testifying to us of 0:46:14.190 --> 0:46:19.920 the value of faith. That's what it's about. Okay, so, uh, no, 0:46:19.950 --> 0:46:23.100 there people aren't watching us. We don't become omniscient when 0:46:23.100 --> 0:46:25.260 we die and go to be with the Lord. God's 0:46:25.260 --> 0:46:28.529 the one watching us and people testify. 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