S1: Hello, friends. Welcome to the second hour of Open Line
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S1: name is Michael Radonich. I'm the academic dean and professor
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S1: with more of the questions you've sent to Open Line. Hey, Tricia,
S1: the mailbag is getting smaller. Isn't it a little bit.
S2: Yeah, but.
S1: I have to speed up my answers, right?
S2: We we took we took quite a bit of time
S2: on some of those, but that's good. It's it's good.
S2: And you're teaching us through them on how to do
S2: the Bible study things and how to read the scripture better.
S1: Yeah. Read it in context. Yeah. Understand the historical setting.
S1: You know, when you think about it, we had a
S1: question about baptism. And boy, how often have people heard about, uh,
S1: Jewish ritual immersion as background to baptism doesn't happen very much.
S1: No it.
S2: Doesn't. Yeah. And it just helps to shed much more
S2: light on now, what we read in the New Testament
S2: or in the Old Testament to understand what those look like.
S2: All right. Anyway.
S1: Let's go back to questions.
S2: Okay. Don wrote us from Illinois. She listens to WLM.
S2: Psalm 66, verse 18 says, if I had been aware
S2: of malice in my own heart, the Lord would not
S2: have listened. Is this for both believers and non-believers, or
S2: is it for one or the other?
S1: Well, I think it's this is a pretty simple answer.
S1: I think this is true of us when we pray.
S1: I think that first of all, God does hear the
S1: prayers of non-believers. I know this for a fact because
S1: of acts. When Peter relates the story of Cornelius. It
S1: says to the angel that he says that the angel
S1: told Cornelius, uh, that the Lord has heard your prayers.
S1: And now send for Peter, and he will come and
S1: give you a message by which you will be saved.
S1: So Cornelius was not a saved man. God heard his
S1: prayers and sent Peter. So God, you know God's big
S1: enough that he can hear the prayers of those who
S1: don't even know him yet. And that's that's great. You know,
S1: if you seek me, you'll find me. If you search
S1: for me with all your heart. That's talking about people
S1: who don't know the Lord. And and yet if they're
S1: seeking God with a sincere heart, God will respond. And I,
S1: by the way, think that it's the Lord that puts
S1: that seeking into their hearts to start with. So, uh, anyway,
S1: so but as in terms of a believer, I think
S1: it's saying if if we are aware of sin in
S1: our life and don't care about it, don't confess it. Uh,
S1: we don't have any assurance that God will hear our prayers. Uh,
S1: in first John, this is a that was an Old
S1: Testament verse that says it, but, uh, Psalm 6618 but
S1: in first John chapter three, I'm turning to it. You
S1: hear the pages turning. Uh, verse 21. Here's a very
S1: important verse. It says, dear friends. Uh. I think I
S1: have the verse wrong, but I'm going to find it. Uh,
S1: it says if our conscience doesn't condemn us, we have
S1: confidence before God and can receive whatever we ask from him,
S1: because we keep his commands and do what is pleasing
S1: in his sight. Now this is his command that we
S1: believe in the name of his son. Uh, and so
S1: I think that's that's a crucial aspect that when we
S1: have if we're hiding sin in our heart, our conscience
S1: will condemn us, and we won't have any assurance of
S1: of God hearing our prayers. Uh, and.
S2: Also, first John 321.
S1: Yeah. Verse 321 through 23 through 23. Uh, and, you know,
S1: it also says, if that we hide sin in our heart,
S1: God won't hear our prayers. I think that's important that
S1: we remember that. Uh, but we have to have the
S1: confidence that God is hearing our prayers the way we
S1: do that as we confess our sins. He's faithful and
S1: just to forgive our sins. And then not only does
S1: he cleanse us, but it opens that door of fellowship
S1: and prayer, and then it gives us confidence before him
S1: when we pray.
S2: I have several questions, but first, I guess is in
S2: the Psalm 66. Can is that is that something we
S2: can apply to us? Um, because it's Old Testament and
S2: it's someone else praying. It doesn't say who. It's just
S2: a song, a psalm. Yeah. Um, I don't know who
S2: the author is, but is that. Is this a prayer
S2: for everyone, or is this this? This writer is just
S2: kind of saying, this is what I found in my life.
S1: No, I think it's a god, you know? Remember that
S1: the scriptures were written by the people of God for
S1: the faithful remnant of God. So even the Psalms were
S1: written that way.
S2: So like a song is written today, or a hymn
S2: that they're writing it kind of for the general worship
S2: of the population to worship. Okay.
S1: Well, yeah, but it was it was not for the general.
S1: A lot of people think that the Bible is the
S1: Book of Israel, like a book written for Israel. It
S1: was written for the faithful remnant of Israel. It was
S1: written for the 7000 that didn't bow the knee to Baal. Not.
S1: Not for everyone. It was for the remnant. Yeah. And.
S1: And what? What happens is that there's a, uh, uh,
S1: there's a a confidence that that's that's the way the
S1: Psalms are. The, the heart cry of believers. And I
S1: think today, uh, as we look at the Psalms, uh,
S1: the same thing is true. I mean, how many of
S1: us read through the Psalms and it expresses our angst, our.
S1: Our stress. Our. Our love. Our devotion. They. They are.
S1: And in fact, you know who used the Psalms that way?
S1: The Lord Jesus himself. Mm. Right. Uh, that's why Dietrich
S1: Bonhoeffer called the Psalms the prayer book of the Messiah.
S1: So I think that it's okay for us to say that, uh,
S1: if I had been aware of malice in my heart,
S1: the Lord would not have listened if I just went
S1: to God and say, I know that I'm sinning. I'm.
S1: I'm holding on to this sin. But you better hear
S1: me anyway. Uh, I think, you know, we need to
S1: confess our sin and restore that fellowship with him. Uh,
S1: to have confidence when we pray.
S2: And these are these are sins. So for both of these,
S2: for the First Corinthians, I'm sorry for first John three,
S2: and then also this verse in Psalm 66. It's the
S2: sins that we're aware of. And so as we're continuing
S2: to walk by faith every day, and the Holy Spirit
S2: makes us aware of sins in our lives like we
S2: could have been blind to them. But now you know.
S2: Now our eyes are open to. Oh, I've been holding
S2: on to pride in this area. Or I've been coveting
S2: in this area that that's when, um. Yeah, that's when
S2: the prayers would stop getting to God.
S1: That's that's when we won't have confidence that our prayers
S1: are coming to God. That's it. And you're right. Exactly that.
S1: I think if God revealed by his spirit every sin
S1: that we're involved in, we'd be overwhelmed. Yeah. Yeah. I
S1: would just.
S2: I.
S1: Would just collapse under the pressure. God is very gracious.
S1: He he he deals with issues gradually, not instantaneously. Uh,
S1: that's why there's a growth process that happens for us.
S1: It doesn't happen. You know, sometimes people are like, well,
S1: why in the world am I not perfectly holy now? Well.
S1: It's a growth process. It takes time. Okay.
S2: So all right. Thank you for that deeper dive into
S2: that verse for us. And thanks for that question, Dawn.
S2: We had another question from a listener who says, I
S2: was told I have a rebellious nature, and even though
S2: I'm born again, that I will go to hell. How
S2: do I get rid of the rebellious nature in me?
S1: Well. There's a few things there. If you're born again,
S1: then why would you go to hell? I mean, the
S1: Bible says that. That if we believe in Jesus, uh.
S1: And you'll be saved. Acts 1631. Believe on the Lord
S1: Jesus and you will be saved. Paul tells the the
S1: Philippian jailer, uh, actually, uh, if we receive him, even
S1: believe on his name first, John chapter one tells us
S1: we become children of God. We can't be unadopted out
S1: of God's family. Uh, and so here's the other question.
S1: Who doesn't have a rebellious nature? Mm. Uh, that a
S1: rebellious nature. I read when I, I read these questions
S1: in advance. I rarely do that. But I did it today,
S1: and I thought of Romans three, where verses nine through 20,
S1: where it talks about what we're all like, we're all rebellious.
S1: That's just what we are. And and you say, wait,
S1: but what if we're born again? Are we rebellious then? Yes,
S1: of course we're rebellious. It's the flesh. So here's what I.
S1: Here's the answer. What do you do to deal with
S1: the rebellious nature? Romans 813 put to death the deeds
S1: of the flesh by the power of the Holy Spirit.
S1: You know, we have to starve the deeds of the flesh.
S1: That's part of spiritual disciplines. And so that's one thing
S1: to deal with. Romans 12 one and two deals with
S1: presenting ourselves as living sacrifices and being transformed by the
S1: renewing of our minds. We need to renew the way
S1: we think, and that will help us deal with that
S1: rebellious spirit that we have. And then I have the, the,
S1: the I thought the the way we ultimately finally deal with,
S1: with our rebellious nature is we have to die, not
S1: just die to self. We have to actually die. Because
S1: what happens when we die? We go to be with
S1: the Lord. And first John three two says, when we
S1: see him, we shall be like him, and then we
S1: won't have a rebellious nature. So right now we're growing
S1: and growing less and less rebellious, but we'll be rebellious
S1: to the very end, and then we'll die, and then
S1: we'll be like him, and he will transform us. I
S1: think that's why the great promise in John 637 through 40. Uh,
S1: I really emphasized that Jesus always does the will of
S1: the father. The will of the father is that he
S1: not lose one of us. Right? But then it says,
S1: but raise him up on the last day. I might
S1: think he could lose me because of my sin, but no,
S1: he promises I'll go to be with him and he'll
S1: resurrect me physically and I will have a holy, righteous
S1: life then like him. Because when I see him, I
S1: will be like him. So anyway, that's the promise that
S1: we have. I think we should take a break here. Yeah. Uh,
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S1: I'm so glad to be here with Tricia McMillan. We're
S1: talking about the questions you've mailed in to the mailbag.
S1: It's an all mailbag, all day, all Open Line mailbag edition.
S1: Did I say that right? All mailbag, all the time
S1: edition of Open Line. That's how to say it. But
S1: I am so glad that. I mean, they've been really
S1: piling up, Tricia. So we're doing our best to get
S1: through them. Yes we are. So yeah. And there's some really.
S1: You said to me that there are some questions that
S1: we hardly ever get.
S2: Yes, I love that. So keep sending those in.
S1: Yeah that's great. Well let's go ahead.
S2: All right. Norman Illinois listens to WNBA and says, can
S2: you please explain Luke 941 which says, Jesus replied, you
S2: unbelieving and rebellious generation, how long will I be with
S2: you and put up with you? Bring your son here.
S2: She says, it seems so harsh and out of place.
S1: Yeah, well, first of all, we never expect the Lord
S1: Jesus to say anything corrective or challenging because we actually
S1: don't see him as the Lord of creation. We mostly
S1: see him as our therapist in chief. And I'm not
S1: surprised sometimes when the Lord Jesus, as Lord expresses. I mean,
S1: he's the very same one that said some of the
S1: things that we read in the Old Testament of God
S1: speaking to Israel, and we say, whoa, that seems awfully harsh.
S1: That's the Lord Jesus speaking to them as well. He
S1: is the God of creation, the Lord of creation, and
S1: that's why he says it. Now, if you look at
S1: the context here. I think this is really crucial. It's
S1: in Luke chapter nine. Uh, she cites verse 41, but
S1: the story starts earlier in verse 37. Uh, there's a man, uh,
S1: from the crowd who cried out, teacher, I beg you
S1: to look at my son, because he's my only child.
S1: Often a spirit seizes him. Suddenly he shrieks. It throws
S1: him into convulsions. It describes all the terrible things. I
S1: begged your disciples to drive it out, but they couldn't.
S1: Now we think the Lord Jesus is speaking to the man.
S1: He says, you unbelieving and rebellious generation, how long will
S1: I be with you and put up with you? But
S1: those last two youths are plural. In Greek. We don't
S1: have the plural second person in English, but uh uh.
S1: And then bring your son here. Your son is singular.
S1: The Lord Jesus wasn't speaking to the man when he
S1: said that he was speaking to the crowd who were
S1: being unbelieving and doubtful and saying, your disciples couldn't help
S1: this man. Your disciples were treating him. They're weak. They
S1: couldn't deal with this and that. So they were having
S1: sort of a cynical spirit, the crowd that was there.
S1: The Lord Jesus deals with the crowd's cynicism, and then
S1: he turns to the man and says, bring your son here.
S1: And then when he does that, he rebuked the unclean spirit,
S1: cured the boy, and gave him back to his father.
S1: And they were all astonished at the greatness of God,
S1: who was astonished at the greatness of God. The people
S1: who were there, being cynical and thinking that this child
S1: could not be helped. So just remember who it is
S1: that that second person plural use twice in that verse.
S1: That is, how long will I be with you and
S1: put up with you? You're so cynical. You don't know
S1: how powerful God is. I can deal with this. And
S1: then he does. And he's very gracious to the man
S1: who has the great need.
S2: So. Well, how how do we when we have a
S2: question like this and we're looking at it, it just
S2: says you. How do we find out if I just
S2: have my Bible translation? Where would I go to? Um,
S2: I didn't look it up.
S1: I didn't look it up in the Moody Bible Commentary.
S1: It may address it there. I don't know, but I
S1: think that you could look it up. I think everyone
S1: should have 1 or 2 Bible commentaries. Just general Bible commentaries.
S1: The two I recommend are the Moody Bible Commentary and
S1: what people would think it's its competitor, but I love
S1: it too. It's the Bible Knowledge commentary That's a two
S1: volume commentary. And probably if you look at those two,
S1: you'll find the answer.
S2: Okay.
S1: That's what I would say.
S2: All right. Well thank you. Thank you for the insight
S2: into the plural as well, which helps us understand that
S2: passage more, because you could see if you look back
S2: at verse 37, like you did with that context that matters, right? Context. Context. Context. Yeah. Um,
S2: a large crowd met him. And so you know that
S2: he is with a crowd, but but we wouldn't necessarily
S2: know that he's talking to the crowd or to the man,
S2: because it's like the same passage of him talking.
S1: The clue is that the whole crowd is marveling at
S1: the at the wonder of God. Yeah, the greatness of God. So, yeah. Yeah.
S2: Okay. Well, thank you for that. Thanks for that question, Norma.
S2: Next up is and by the way.
S1: Let's be careful not to turn the Lord Jesus into
S1: a very weak, uh, I mean, In. Dorothy Sayers said,
S1: you know, we've tamed the lion of Judah, pared his claws.
S1: He's the lion of Judah. Let's remember that he's not
S1: some pale curate, she said, but he's the creator of
S1: the universe. Let's remember that.
S2: So and some of the things that he was doing
S2: in his actions don't seem very, um, countercultural to us today.
S2: You know, talking to women. Well, men talk to women
S2: all the time or welcoming children. Yeah, people like kids,
S2: you know, like they don't seem that countercultural today. But
S2: at the time, they would have raised lots of eyebrows. Yeah. Um,
S2: and so I think in addition to statements like this,
S2: those are our clues that, oh, wait, he wasn't he
S2: wasn't acting like all of the other rabbis and leaders
S2: that were around at that time.
S1: Exactly, exactly.
S2: Okay. Well, thank you for that. Jamie in Illinois listens
S2: to WNBA and was looking at a different verse in
S2: Luke just a few chapters later in Luke 12, and
S2: she said she's heard people quote that if you deny
S2: me in front of others, I'll deny you in front
S2: of the father. But she said, that's not what Luke
S2: 12 nine says. That says that Jesus will deny you
S2: in front of God's angels. So I'm going to make
S2: her question kind of into two parts. Um, so she
S2: is asking about the angels part as part of her question.
S2: We were made a little lower than the angels, but
S2: that makes it seem like angels don't have much authority.
S2: So the verse says, again, this is Luke 12 eight
S2: and nine. And I say to you, anyone who acknowledges
S2: me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge
S2: him before the angels of God. But whoever denies me
S2: before men will be denied before the angels of God.
S2: do the angels have some sort of authority that they
S2: will be judges. Will we even see the father during
S2: that time?
S1: Yeah, well, I think the parallel passage from Matthew ten.
S1: Matthew 1033 is really important because it says anyone, everyone
S1: who will acknowledge me before men, I will also acknowledge
S1: him before my father, uh, in heaven. And whoever denies
S1: me before men, I will also deny him before my
S1: father in heaven. So it's the parallel passage is addressing
S1: who the judge is. That's the father. Uh, I don't
S1: think the angels have any kind of judicial authority at
S1: all over humanity. They're not the jury, but the angels
S1: of God are what I would call the gallery. You know,
S1: in a court, you've got the the judge, you've got
S1: the jury, uh, you've got the prosecutor, you've got the defendant,
S1: but you also have the gallery, The people who are
S1: just interested in what's going on there, and they sit
S1: there and they watch. Well, it talks about how angels
S1: long to look into our salvation. It talks about how angels,
S1: you know, women are to wear head coverings. And it
S1: says because of the angels. And that's in first Corinthians, uh,
S1: chapter 11, I believe it is. Uh, but because of
S1: the angels. Well, why, uh, the reason is that the
S1: head covering in that time was a cultural expression of submission.
S1: And angels were very interested in issues, observing issues of submission,
S1: obedience and rebellion. Obviously, you could know why, because of
S1: the rebellion of the enemy of Satan and so forth.
S1: So there's all this interest that angels have to see
S1: in terms of God's relationship with humanity. And so there
S1: the gallery and they are there watching. And that's why
S1: he says, whoever denies me before men will be denied
S1: before in front of the angels of God who are
S1: very interested in this. But the judge who's going to
S1: make the decision is the father in heaven. That's what
S1: Matthew 1033 says.
S2: Okay, so then my my follow up then is why
S2: I guess they're they seem like they're addressing different, um,
S2: different groups. Like one is I'll acknowledge him before my father.
S2: One is I'll acknowledge him before the angels of God,
S2: which doesn't seem as, uh, important or is as bad,
S2: I guess.
S1: Well, I suspect the Lord Jesus said both.
S2: Okay at.
S1: The same time. Matthew picked what he thought was the
S1: most memorable part. Luke, writing in the Greco-Roman world, might
S1: have thought that people's are are alert that there are
S1: going to be angels watching this. And they had a
S1: very high view of angels. And so that's that could
S1: be why he said that. I'm not exactly sure. But
S1: you know, I don't think that he contradicts I think
S1: that what we have is when we have, uh, Matthew
S1: and Luke, they complement each other and they fulfill they
S1: they complete one another. And I think if we want
S1: to know, if we want to go back to the event,
S1: what did the Lord Jesus really say? He said, well,
S1: whoever denies me before men, I will deny him before
S1: my father in heaven with all the angels watching. Okay,
S1: that's that's what I would say.
S2: Okay. Which makes sense if you're picturing a courtroom like
S2: you were explaining with a gallery. And so it's before
S2: everyone who would be in there, which would include the
S2: angels who were watching. Yeah. Okay.
S1: Who are I think it's so interesting to me that
S1: in Scripture, it keeps saying over and over that, uh,
S1: angels are very concerned about seeing how God deals with us. Why?
S1: Why are they concerned about our salvation? Why do they
S1: long to look at it? Because God did not redeem
S1: angels when they fell. He redeemed humanity. It shows his
S1: great love. God's. They're interested in our obedience and submission.
S1: They'd like to see that. So those are the reasons. Well,
S1: we'll come back with more questions you've sent in. This
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S1: to be with you. Tricia McMillan is here with me.
S1: I'm Michael Ray Dolnick, and we've been going through the
S1: questions you've sent in. And I think it's just amazing
S1: that when everyone reads the Bible, how many questions come
S1: up that I have never thought of? And I'm always
S1: amazed when I see questions that are in here. And
S1: I think I think that's pretty cool. You know, uh,
S1: that's why I think we need to study the Bible and,
S1: and I think it's one of the reasons we need
S1: to study it in a group. Now we have a
S1: pretty big group. It's all across America. That's what we're
S1: doing here. But, you know, home groups. You ever sit
S1: in a home group Bible study and and someone raises something.
S1: You say, I never saw that, right. Or I never
S1: wondered that. I think it's one of the great things.
S1: So I'm grateful for our Bible study across America because
S1: we've got a big group saying things, don't you think?
S2: I do, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fun because.
S2: Because many, many times questions come into open line and
S2: I say, oh yeah, I wonder that too now, because
S2: I also had never seen that verse I had. But
S2: you know, it's it's not seems like it. You've never
S2: seen it. Right, right. Yeah.
S1: Yeah. Well let's go ahead. What do.
S2: We got. Next question is from Doris in Illinois, listens
S2: to WNBA and is looking at first Corinthians six, verses
S2: two and three specifically. But first Corinthians six one through
S2: eight is about, uh, well, mine has the heading The
S2: Problem of Litigation in Heathen courts, but it's the ones about, um,
S2: just court cases.
S1: The context is why we shouldn't judge go to outside courts.
S2: Yeah, yeah. And so specifically the two verses she's wondering about, say,
S2: or don't you know that the saints will judge the world?
S2: And if the world is judged by you, are you
S2: unworthy to judge the smallest cases? Don't you know that
S2: we will judge angels, not to mention ordinary matters? So.
S1: Well, well, this is why believers don't take believers to court. Yes.
S1: Other believers, yes.
S2: But so that he has gotten out of this, this
S2: passage before. But but there's a lot of like, are
S2: we judging angels? Yeah. Well.
S1: It says not only that will judge the world. I
S1: was thinking about that. I said, well, in in Matthew
S1: chapter 19 and verse 28, it says, I assure you,
S1: in the Messianic age, when the Son of Man sits
S1: on his glorious throne, you who have followed me, he's
S1: talking to the 12 will sit on 12 thrones judging
S1: the 12 tribes of Israel. So right there it talks
S1: about the 12 disciples being the judges of the 12 tribes,
S1: the the nations of Israel in the messianic kingdom. That
S1: makes sense. So that we do have, you know, the
S1: apostles had authority to judge. And then it says, don't
S1: you know we will judge angels? Well, probably that's referring
S1: to fallen angels in Second Peter chapter two. And verse.
S1: Let's see. Uh, verse four is one place where we
S1: could find it. For if God didn't spare the angels
S1: who sinned, but threw them down into Tartarus, there awaiting judgment,
S1: and delivered them to keep in chains of darkness until judgment.
S1: And then verse nine, the Lord knows how to rescue
S1: the godly from trials. I think this is it. Yeah. Uh.
S1: And to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the Day
S1: of Judgment. So I think we will probably judge angels
S1: on the Day of Judgment. Uh, I'm not sure why.
S1: Maybe God doesn't waste his time with judging angels and
S1: delegates it to believers. Uh, but that does appear to
S1: be something that we will be involved with. Uh, and, uh,
S1: also in the book of Jude, verse six, a very
S1: similar book to Second Peter. He has kept, uh, these
S1: fallen angels, uh, with eternal chains in darkness for the
S1: day of judgment, of the great day. The angels who
S1: did not keep their own position in heaven but deserted
S1: their proper dwelling. They fell. Uh, they followed Satan. They're
S1: going to be judged on the day of judgment. And, uh,
S1: it looks like. Tricia, you're going to be part of
S1: that judging authority.
S2: Because Saints here refers to all believers. Yeah. Okay. Which
S2: I also don't. That's not typically how I think of
S2: the verse. Yeah.
S1: Saints we're not. Usually when we think of saints, we
S1: think of especially holy people. Yes. We're all made holy
S1: by faith in Jesus. And we're the saints. So. Huh?
S2: Yeah. All right, well, Doris, thank you for showing me
S2: that verse that I yeah.
S1: I don't I don't worry about it. I figure if
S1: God's going to have me involved in judgment, he'll know
S1: what to do to to give me, uh, the guidance
S1: for how to do it. Yeah. So. Yeah. Yeah.
S2: Okay. Well, thank you for that question. Next question is
S2: from Paul and Patricia. They live in Minnesota. Um, they
S2: are reading through the Bible for the umpteenth time there
S2: in Exodus and have a question about the directions that
S2: God gives to Moses. Uh, why is the phrase fine
S2: twined linen used over and over? What is it and
S2: what is the significance of it being fine twined? And
S2: then also a couple other words that that, um, Patricia
S2: was the one writing it, but, um, that showed up
S2: our tenors and filets in building of the tabernacle. Okay.
S2: So the fine twined linen, um, I found a few passages.
S2: Exodus 39 talked about the sash that was on Aaron
S2: and his sons, and it was the sash of finely. Well,
S2: my version I was looking at was finely spun linen
S2: of embroidered blue, purple and scarlet yarn, or fine twined linen.
S1: And there's a veil in Exodus 2631, make a veil
S1: of blue, purple and scarlet yarn and finely spun linen,
S1: with the design of cherubim worked into it. Must have
S1: been beautiful. I think the fine linen issue is just
S1: fine linen. It's sort of like when you hear Your
S1: advertisements on the radio. I do not moody radio, but
S1: other radio things or podcasts. Sometimes I'll listen and they
S1: saying get this and this kind of sheet. You know
S1: these sheets for your your beds. Oh yes yes, yes.
S1: Where they talk about thread count. Exactly. Yes. So this
S1: is just very finely spun, very beautiful, expensive linen. That's
S1: what that's talking about. It's the best quality linen that
S1: they could have for the Tabernacle. And it would have.
S2: Been different from the other linens that were being used
S2: for other things, like they would have. It would have
S2: been special. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
S1: Okay. And but Finely Twined is really, really wonderfully, finely twined. Very,
S1: very high grade linen. Okay. Uh, and then the tenors
S1: are the bands on the pillars. Uh, I'm sorry, the.
S1: Not that the Phillies are the bands on the pillars.
S1: You know, there's pillars in the tabernacle.
S2: And these were big pillars. Like like.
S1: Columns. Hold it up. Columns to hold it up. Like
S1: the poles. Oh, okay. More poles because it's tabernacle. Okay.
S1: And and, uh, posts, so to speak. And they put, uh, uh,
S1: bands on them that were with, uh, with gold and
S1: bronze in different places. And that's what the filets were.
S1: So there would have been.
S2: These silver bands that go on these pillars.
S1: Sometimes gold, sometimes silver. It depends on the passage that
S1: you're looking at, depending on the pillar that's there. And then, uh, tenors,
S1: I looked that up. The one with the word tenor. Yes.
S1: With these words. For according to the tenor of these words,
S1: I have made a covenant with you and with Israel. Yes.
S1: I look that up in Hebrew. Uh, that's Exodus 3427.
S1: It's the Hebrew words Alpi, which means upon the mouth.
S1: What does that mean? It it means.
S2: Great question.
S1: It means write these words for based on the sense
S1: of these words. I've made a covenant with you. That's
S1: what it means based on the sense of these words.
S1: Based on the mouth of these words, I'll p based
S1: on the the the mouth. What I have said based
S1: on the sense of these words, that's what it really means.
S1: It's a it's an idiom. Now, the reason based on
S1: what I've said and tenor is still used that way.
S1: So it's there's a version that translates it like that,
S1: I think the ESV. But for the most part I
S1: would say this, uh, Paul and Patricia, it seems to
S1: me you're reading the King James Version. Keep reading it.
S1: It's a good version. It's a good translation. But get
S1: yourself a couple of modern translations. Get yourself the hcsb.
S1: Get yourself a new American standard. The reason I say
S1: that is when you come to these words that you think,
S1: I don't understand what this is. Go look it up
S1: in a modern translation. It'll probably tell you. So, uh,
S1: I'm not saying don't read the King James Version, but
S1: part of it is the word fillet is somewhat for
S1: bands on pillars. That's somewhat archaic. And so let's, let's
S1: use words that we understand, uh, and that's what you'll get.
S1: So even if you're reading the King James that's fine.
S1: But go over and and have a look at the,
S1: at a modern translation as well.
S2: Can I push back a little bit? Sure. Okay. For the,
S2: the filets. So it says the hooks of the pillars
S2: and their fillets shall be of silver. I found that
S2: in the ESV, which I would say is a more
S2: modern translation. It is.
S1: It is, I think it's, it's an architectural or a
S1: design term. Fillet. Okay. So it's not necessarily archaic. It
S1: just is a, not a commonly spoken more of a
S1: technical word. Okay. And so I would rather follow the hcsb,
S1: which I said, get yourself a few or the NASB,
S1: which just says bands. Okay.
S2: All right. And and one of the things that's helpful
S2: is online, even if you don't own all of these,
S2: you can just type in that verse and it will
S2: sometimes get give you like here's what the other translations
S2: are saying, which can help to kind of give you
S2: a little more context for maybe what that word means.
S2: Or like we talked about earlier, maybe the Moody Bible
S2: commentary or or another commentary may help give a little
S2: more context to especially the building of the tabernacle. A
S2: lot of times they'll have more in depth charts or
S2: pictures or or definitions or a Bible dictionary.
S1: Bible would be helpful too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're going
S1: to take a break here, and, uh, I'm going to
S1: get my Bible dictionary and look up fil-a. I keep
S1: thinking filet mignon, but I don't think that's it. It's
S1: a different spelling. We're coming back with more of your
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S1: the lightning round. All right. Okay, let's see if I
S1: can answer quickly.
S2: Okay, let's do it. Mel in Tennessee listens to WNBA
S2: and is looking at Joshua for and wants to know
S2: if you can provide clarification on if this is one
S2: set of 12 memorial stones or two sets of memorial
S2: stones that the Israelites are taking out of the Jordan.
S1: Okay, so God told Israelites the Israelites to take one
S1: set of 12 and bring them to dry land to
S1: where they were going to camp and set them up
S1: as memorial stones. They did that. In addition, Joshua wanted
S1: an additional memorial for where they took the stones, and
S1: so what he did, he also set up 12 stones
S1: for a memorial. He did even more of a memorial,
S1: not disobedient, but wanting to remember even more. He set
S1: up 12 stones right in the middle of the river.
S1: And when Joshua was written, it says they still are
S1: there to this day. They're not there to this day
S1: that we're reading it, but to this day when they
S1: were written. So there were two sets of memorial stones,
S1: one in the river and one at the in dry land.
S2: Where they camped, and the ones on dry land they
S2: actually then took with them in verse 20 again Joshua
S2: four verse 20 took.
S1: Them to Gilgal.
S2: Where they took them. It says, those 12 stones which
S2: they had taken from the Jordan Joshua set up at Gilgal.
S2: So they had those with them so they could see
S2: that memorial. Plus there was the one that was still
S2: in the Jordan.
S1: Go back to where they got them from and remember.
S2: Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. Lori in Ohio listens to
S2: Wtxf and is looking at Isaiah 43 and wants to know,
S2: would Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego have had these words when
S2: they went into the furnace? So the words the verse
S2: specifically is Isaiah 43 two which says, I will be
S2: with you when you pass through the waters.
S1: The main thing is thinking about you. You will be
S1: is you will walk through the fire.
S2: Yeah. When you walk through the fire and the flame
S2: will not burn you. Yeah. She has a study Bible
S2: that has the timing of the writings close of Daniel
S2: and of Isaiah.
S1: Yeah. Well, Isaiah was written about 700 BC. That's when
S1: the book of Isaiah, when you count the kings. So
S1: it was if you have all the kings and and such. Uh,
S1: most people would put the book of Isaiah like, I
S1: think Ahaz was around 740 BC, and Hezekiah was around
S1: 700 BC. So sometime after 700 BC is when the
S1: Book of Isaiah was finally compiled. Daniel and Shadrach, Meshach,
S1: and Abednego went into captivity in 605 BC, and therefore
S1: it was sometime after their three years of training that
S1: this happened. So yes, they would have had the book
S1: of Isaiah.
S2: Okay. For those who maybe are date challenged like me
S2: when it comes to BC stuff, 700 BC is before
S2: 605 BC. So the numbers are.
S1: Getting smaller as you get.
S2: Closer. I always have to go. Wait a minute. So
S2: 100 years later almost is when Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego
S2: would have been in the fire in the fiery furnace. Okay.
S2: So they could have known about this passage? Yep. Okay.
S2: And then that would have been an.
S1: Encouragement.
S2: Right? Yeah. You will go through the fire. I will
S2: be with you. You will not be burned. Like okay.
S2: Though they had that's.
S1: What they say. They say that they had the faith.
S1: They say to God, uh, our God is able to
S1: deliver us. Yeah, but even if he doesn't, we still
S1: will not bow down and worship the image. Yeah. So.
S2: Huh? Can you imagine? Like, I don't know, that's kind
S2: of blows my mind a little bit that they might
S2: be quoting, um, Isaiah or at least thinking about it.
S2: Thinking about it. Yeah. While they're in the in the furnace. Okay.
S1: Okay. So I had my one of my favorite professors
S1: I had for my doctoral work, John Sailhamer. He offered
S1: a course that I took called the Old Testament in
S1: the Old Testament, the old. And it was.
S2: How? Okay.
S1: Okay. And it was how the Old Testament reads it
S1: earlier passages and builds upon it.
S3: Oh, cool.
S1: Yeah, it was a great course.
S3: Yeah.
S2: So it would be something like this then would come out.
S1: And also one of our, one of his former students,
S1: Seth Postell, who's the Moody grad and a dean of
S1: the Israel College of the Bible in the Moody Handbook
S1: of Messianic Prophecy, a book I edited. Seth Postell did
S1: an article called The Old Testament in the Old Testament.
S1: So that's very cool. We better move.
S2: On. Okay. Christine in Ohio listens to Wtxf. Um, is
S2: also in. Isaiah is what she's looking. Well, that's what
S2: I pulled for it. But she said, I know God
S2: is husband to the widow, but what is he to
S2: the widower. She is a friend who is a widower,
S2: but she's like, I can't tell my friend that God
S2: is his husband. So how do you how does God
S2: work in that type of a situation?
S1: Well, first of all, remember this is a figurative passage
S1: in Isaiah 54. It's talking about Israel's. It's not talking
S1: about a real widow there. It's talking about Israel. Indeed,
S1: your husband is your maker. His name is Yahweh, the
S1: Lord of hosts. The Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer.
S1: He's talking to all of Israel. He's not talking to
S1: an actual widow. Uh, he's talking about Israel and suffering
S1: and loneliness and grief and, uh, and so it's just
S1: a metaphor. You know, it's not something that's literal. And
S1: I would say I wouldn't use this, uh, uh, metaphor
S1: with a man who lost his wife. I wouldn't I
S1: probably wouldn't even use this for a woman who's lost
S1: her husband. I. I would stick to verses like, uh,
S1: Psalm 3418 that God is near to the brokenhearted, or
S1: Second Corinthians one four. That God the Father is the
S1: father of all comfort, or John 1426 that the Lord
S1: Jesus promised to send us the Holy Spirit, the comforter. Uh,
S1: I would say that John 1515, where the Lord Jesus says,
S1: I now call you friends, so we're not alone, because
S1: the Lord Jesus says in Hebrews 13 five, I'll never
S1: leave you or forsake you. So those are some of
S1: the passages that probably I would use rather than trying
S1: to say, the Lord is your spouse. Okay.
S2: All right. So thank you. You want to try and
S2: squeeze in one?
S3: Yeah.
S1: I can answer this quickly.
S2: Okay. Marcia in Illinois, there's a song she has heard
S2: recently that talks about. There's a great cloud of witnesses.
S2: They cheer for me. Does Hebrews 12 or any other
S2: place support that? Believers who have died before us can
S2: see our lives.
S4: Well, I.
S1: Think Hebrews 12, the cloud of witnesses are the people
S1: of faith that are described in Hebrews 11. And they
S1: are not watching us. They are testifying to us of
S1: the value of faith. That's what it's about. Okay, so, uh, no,
S1: there people aren't watching us. We don't become omniscient when
S1: we die and go to be with the Lord. God's
S1: the one watching us and people testify. Well, that's the
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