WEBVTT - Hour 2: Lengthening Your Prayer List

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<v S1>Hi friend, thank you so much for downloading this podcast

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<v S1>But before you go, I want to tell you about

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<v S1>this month's truth tool. It's called Have You Ever Wondered?

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<v S1>And I absolutely love this topic because if you're like me,

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<v S1>going out into the night sky and looking up and

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<v S1>seeing a million stars, don't you just stop and think

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<v S1>about God? And are you not in a moment of

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<v S1>awe and wonder or looking out over the vast expanse

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<v S1>of an ocean and you start thinking, what is man,

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<v S1>that thou art mindful of him? And it makes you

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<v S1>wonder about the magnificence of God? I think that sense

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<v S1>of wonder was put there on purpose, and this wonderful

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<v S1>book includes a composite of multiple authors who have written

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<v S1>from their perspective as a scientist, or a historian, or

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<v S1>a mathematician or an artist, on why they all have

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<v S1>this sense of awe through the work that they do.

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<v S1>In other words, the heavens declare the glory. And as

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<v S1>it tells us in Romans, we are really without excuse

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<v S1>because his handiwork is everywhere. And this book invites you

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<v S1>to walk through the chapters written by people who all

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<v S1>have a sense of awe and wonder when it comes

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<v S1>to God through their various disciplines in life. It's an

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<v S1>Have you ever wondered? And now please enjoy the broadcast.

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<v S2>Here are some of the news headlines we're watching.

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<v S3>This time the conference was over. The president won a pledge.

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<v S4>Americans worshiping government over God.

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<v S3>Extremely rare safety move by a major.

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<v S5>17 years. The Palestinians and the Israelis negotiated.

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<v S3>This is not the way.

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<v S1>Hi, friends. Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall.

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<v S1>Before I say another word, can I just remind you

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<v S1>and me that God has called us for such a

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<v S1>time as this? I don't know about you, but right

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<v S1>now I'm getting the sense that all of creation is groaning, right?

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<v S1>Are you not sensing that so much is happening right now?

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<v S1>First and foremost, on Saturday Flag Day, it is the

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<v S1>anniversary of the birth of the United States Army. We're

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<v S1>going to have a massive parade here in Washington, DC.

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<v S1>And in the midst of all of that, up to

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<v S1>2000 protests and rallies are expected to take place all

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<v S1>across the country on Saturday. In LA alone, they're expecting

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<v S1>a quarter of a million people to attend, far more

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<v S1>than the 70,000 that were anticipated. And the heiress of Walmart.

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<v S1>Buyer beware. Just so you know, where your consumer dollars

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<v S1>are going is very much behind this supporting it, helping

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<v S1>to fund it. Now, supposedly the people who were protesting

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<v S1>and to use the words of Doctor Michael, it's an

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<v S1>Omni protest. It's a mulligan stew throwing whatever you want.

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<v S1>Mix it together. And they're all people who, at its core,

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<v S1>really don't like America, and they celebrate lawlessness. So you

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<v S1>have Antifa, BLM, you have Marxists, socialists, teachers unions, free,

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<v S1>free Palestine people. All of this just fomenting. We saw

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<v S1>what happened in LA over the last several days. And

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<v S1>now this is supposed to happen on Saturday and they're

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<v S1>calling it No King's Day. Yeah, but they didn't finish

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<v S1>the statement. Can I put that in a historical context?

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<v S1>It was something that they said when the founders started

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<v S1>this country, they said, no kings, comma, but King Jesus,

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<v S1>didn't quite work its way into the ad yet, but, uh.

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<v S1>That's right. We don't have a king in this country.

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<v S1>That's why we fought a revolution that's very much on

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<v S1>the horizontal plane. On the vertical plane, there's only one king. And, folks,

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<v S1>he's not up for reelection. He is the same yesterday, today,

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<v S1>and forever. And he has the entire world in his hand.

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<v S1>And he's watching what's going on, and probably weeps at

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<v S1>our lack of understanding why the law was given to

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<v S1>us because we couldn't practice self control. That's why the

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<v S1>government is on his shoulders. Government was instituted after the family,

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<v S1>before the church, so that the citizens of a nation

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<v S1>could be protected. And when you did not work within

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<v S1>the parameters of the law, which was for the greater

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<v S1>good of the people of that nation, there were consequences.

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<v S1>And so what we're seeing now is this abject rebellion,

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<v S1>an absolute throwing away of consequences. Don't follow the law.

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<v S1>Somehow you're mad. So you have the right to go

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<v S1>in and bust up a jewelry store in LA. I

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<v S1>can't quite follow the logic on that. So I'm encouraging us,

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<v S1>as men and women who have been given permission to

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<v S1>boldly approach the throne of Grace to be banging on

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<v S1>the gates of heaven for this weekend, that no one

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<v S1>is hurt, whether they're law officers or protesters. No one

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<v S1>is hurt that I am great. And you know this

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<v S1>you wouldn't be listening to this program. I'm such a

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<v S1>great believer in the marketplace of ideas. I subscribe to

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<v S1>an all comers policy, and I want you to be

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<v S1>able to, in a public square, share your opinions. But

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<v S1>throwing a molotov cocktail is not free speech. It's mayhem.

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<v S1>It's revolution, it's darkness. And so we need to be

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<v S1>praying about what's going to happen on Saturday. So that's

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<v S1>one thing. The second thing is what in the world

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<v S1>is going on in the Middle East? Oh, I am

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<v S1>so thankful that I have access to wonderful friends like

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<v S1>Doctor Michael Redlick my last hour, we spent the entire

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<v S1>hour talking about Israel. Just go to wherever your favorite

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<v S1>podcast can be found in the market with Janet Parshall. Load.

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<v S1>Load in today's date first hour and you're going to

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<v S1>hear some wonderful conversation. The UN's got planned an assembly

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<v S1>chaired by Saudi Arabia and France. There's your first problem

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<v S1>out of the gate. And they're going to move toward

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<v S1>trying to have a two state solution. And originally they

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<v S1>were going to try to declare Palestine as a state.

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<v S1>Little problem. You don't have the legal authority to do that.

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<v S1>Boundaries haven't been defined. And according to the Oslo Accord,

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<v S1>you can't do that, by the way, until there are

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<v S1>clear parameters defined. Well, that doesn't make any difference. This

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<v S1>is a political act. It's not one that's based on facts.

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<v S1>The U.S., of course, will veto any of this, which

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<v S1>means it's dead upon arrival. But it doesn't mean it's

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<v S1>not going to foment more anti-Semitism. In the meanwhile, talking

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<v S1>about fomenting what in the world is going on in Iran.

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<v S1>Turn your eyes now to this report from Chris Mitchell

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<v S1>of CBN news and pay attention.

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<v S6>The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation released a statement saying Hamas targeted

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<v S6>their workers on Wednesday night. Hamas brutally attacked a bus

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<v S6>carrying more than two dozen members of the Gaza Humanitarian

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<v S6>Foundation's team. What we know is devastating at least eight fatalities,

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<v S6>multiple injuries and fears that some of our team members

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<v S6>may have been taken hostage. GPS says the workers were

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<v S6>Palestinians working to deliver critical aid to needy Gazans. Since

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<v S6>its operation began, the organization has delivered nearly 19 million meals.

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<v S6>It's calling on the international community to condemn the attack,

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<v S6>which they call a crime against humanity. Senator James Lankford,

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<v S6>posted on X, called it the ultimate sign of Hamas's

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<v S6>oppression against their own people. Tensions are high in the

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<v S6>region overall. The U.S. State Department has ordered the departure

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<v S6>of all nonessential personnel from U.S. embassies in Baghdad, Bahrain

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<v S6>and Kuwait due to unrest. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth authorized

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<v S6>the voluntary departure of military dependents from locations across the region.

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<v S6>Speaking at the Kennedy Center in Washington, President Trump said

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<v S6>they are being moved out because it could be a

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<v S6>dangerous place and we'll see what happens. Iran's defense minister

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<v S6>said he hopes nuclear talks will yield results. But if not,

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<v S6>he warned the U.S. that all its bases are within

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<v S6>our reach. We will have access to them and we

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<v S6>will target all of them in the host countries without hesitation.

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<v S6>While the sixth round of talks are being scheduled for

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<v S6>this Sunday in Oman, Trump is expressing skepticism about whether

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<v S6>a deal can be reached on the podcast Pod Force One,

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<v S6>Trump stated.

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<v S7>I'm getting more and more less confident about it. They

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<v S7>seem to be delaying and I think that's a shame.

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<v S7>But they I'm less confident now than I would have

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<v S7>been a couple of months ago. Something happened to them.

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<v S6>Jonathan Conricus of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

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<v S6>believes the time for diplomacy passed long ago.

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<v S8>After 15 years of diplomatic efforts and with unequivocal evidence

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<v S8>that the Iranians are lying and they are trying to

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<v S8>build a nuclear bomb. Action needs to be taken.

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<v S6>Israel reports it's recovered the bodies of two more hostages

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<v S6>in Gaza, including Yair Yaakov, who was killed in Hamas's

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<v S6>brutal October 7th invasion of Israel. Meanwhile, Israel's Knesset voted

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<v S6>down a bill that would collapse the government. Chris Mitchell

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<v S6>CBN news, Jerusalem.

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<v S1>When we return, Doctor Macharia is going to join us

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<v S1>because there's a lot of conversation that something might be

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<v S1>percolating between Israel and Iran. So again, people of the

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<v S1>word that you and me we're going to trust in

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<v S1>the Lord. And we're also going to find out exactly

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<v S1>what our friends in Iran are saying about what's happening there.

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<v S1>So stay tuned. We've got a lot to talk about

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<v S1>at the bottom of the hour. Todd Nettleton will join

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<v S1>us and get out those prayer lists, okay. Because we're

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<v S1>going to lengthen them. We're going to talk about brothers

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<v S1>and sisters who are persevering in their following of Jesus

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<v S1>Christ and the price that they paid. This is in

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<v S1>the market with Janet Parshall just getting started a whole

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<v S1>lot more after this. Have you ever wondered why music

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<v S1>moves us so deeply, or why beauty takes our breath away?

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<v S1>My Truth Tool this month is a thought provoking book

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<v S1>that explores those moments of wonder we all encounter. It's

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<v S1>called Have You ever Wondered? Consider how ordinary aspects of

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<v S1>life point to the extraordinary biblical truths. Ask for your

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<v S9>This is a clear indication that the United States believes

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<v S9>that an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear facilities is likely

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<v S9>to happen soon. The State Department has ordered the withdrawal

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<v S9>of all non-essential U.S. diplomats out of Iraq, while the

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<v S9>Pentagon has authorized the departure of military family members from

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<v S9>the Middle East as the region braces for the possibility

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<v S9>of another of another war. This comes as the Iranian

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<v S9>defense minister was warning yesterday that if the Israel attacks

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<v S9>his country, quote, the enemy's losses will undoubtedly be greater

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<v S9>than ours. America will have to leave the region because

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<v S9>all of its bases are within our reach, and we

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<v S9>have access to all of them, and without hesitation we

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<v S9>will target them.

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<v S1>And of course, as a result of that, now we're

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<v S1>pulling people out of our buildings and that part of

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<v S1>the world. President Trump was asked about if there's an

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<v S1>impending attack from Israel to Iran. Here's what he said.

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<v S10>How imminent is an Israeli strike on Iran?

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<v S7>Well, I don't want to say imminent, but it looks

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<v S7>like it's something that could very well happen.

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<v S11>How confident are you, sir, that conflict with Iran can

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<v S11>be avoided?

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<v S7>Well, I'd love to avoid the conflict. Uh, Iran's going

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<v S7>to have to negotiate a little bit tougher. Meaning they're

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<v S7>going to have to give us some things that they're

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<v S7>not willing to give us right now.

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<v S12>What the Israelis told you that made you start to

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<v S12>evacuate the dependents of servicemen and women who were stationed

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<v S12>in the Middle.

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<v S7>East, tell me anything. But I said, look, there's a

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<v S7>chance of massive conflict. We have a lot of American

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<v S7>people in this area. And I said, we got to

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<v S7>tell them to get out because something could happen soon.

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<v S7>And I don't want to be the one that didn't

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<v S7>give any warning. And missiles are flying into their buildings.

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<v S7>It's possible. So I had to do it. Um, you know,

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<v S7>I had the choice. Do I do it or not?

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<v S7>Doing it has its downside, but it also has its upside.

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<v S7>Like you're going to save a lot of lives if

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<v S7>it should happen. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

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<v S1>Hopefully we're going to pray to that end. White House

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<v S1>envoy Steve Witkoff privately warned several top senators that last

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<v S1>week that Iran could unleash a mass casualty response if

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<v S1>Israel bombs their nuclear facilities, according to U.S. official and

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<v S1>a source with direct knowledge. With Israel preparing to strike

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<v S1>Iran quickly if Woodcock's diplomacy fails. This weekend, President Trump's

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<v S1>envoy sounded the alarm about what would come next. Iran's

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<v S1>retaliation could overwhelm Israel's defenses and cause heavy damage, he said.

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<v S1>Iran has also vowed to strike U.S. targets in the region,

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<v S1>hence leading the president to call our personnel home. I

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<v S1>think that was the right and wise decision in the

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<v S1>event of an attack on its nuclear site. So the U.S.

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<v S1>is now, as we speak, in the process of withdrawing

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<v S1>diplomats and military families who could be in harm's way. Yesterday,

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<v S1>the president told reporters that he doesn't want to say

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<v S1>an Israeli strike is imminent, but that it might very

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<v S1>well happen. He stressed he wants to avoid conflict, as

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<v S1>you just heard, but said it will require concessions that

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<v S1>Iran has been unwilling to make. That's the headlines, that's

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<v S1>the story. But there's always a story behind the story,

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<v S1>and nobody knows that better than our precious friend Doctor Shahriyar.

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<v S1>He is the founder of Iran Alive Ministries. He was

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<v S1>born into a muslim family in Iran, came to the U.S.

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<v S1>after the Islamic Revolution in 79. He came to faith

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<v S1>in Christ while getting his PhD in computer engineering. As

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<v S1>a grad student at USC, I love to point out

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<v S1>that he could have kept going and been a gazillionaire

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<v S1>today because he was pursuing AI before everybody and their

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<v S1>brother was talking about AI, but instead, God moves him

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<v S1>to plant a church in San Jose, California. Hundreds of

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<v S1>Muslim comfort converts show up and it becomes, to this day,

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<v S1>one of the largest churches of its kind in the U.S.

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<v S1>but in 2001, he starts Iran Alive Ministries, which uses

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<v S1>satellite TV. And you talk about missiles permeating. Are they?

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<v S1>It's nothing compared to the gospel permeating the airwaves in Iran,

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<v S1>24 seven. And that's exactly what Iran Alive Ministries is

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<v S1>all about. It's why I'm so passionate about this ministry,

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<v S1>because you hear all that stuff and I'll grant you,

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<v S1>it sounds really scary. Except newsflash, Christ is still on

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<v S1>the throne. He's in charge. Okay. He didn't give us

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<v S1>a spirit of fear. The Bible says, but power, love

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<v S1>and of a sound mind. You can pray for those

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<v S1>in authority, as Scripture said, because they need a lot

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<v S1>of wisdom right now. But in the meantime, the stories

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<v S1>that are being made are the Iranian people who are

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<v S1>coming to faith in Jesus Christ. And I love that

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<v S1>hormones can not only talk about those headlines, the ones

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<v S1>being made in heaven, but he also has boots on

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<v S1>the ground. So he gives us a sense of what's

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<v S1>happening atmospherically to our friends who live in Iran. So Hormuz,

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<v S1>the the joy of having you with us. And little

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<v S1>did I know when I asked you that this would

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<v S1>be making news and it could go from bad to

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<v S1>worse in a blink of an eye. Tell me what

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<v S1>you are hearing from your sources in Iran. Because if

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<v S1>there's rocket fire, we always rebut innocent people being hurt.

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<v S1>What's going to happen, do you think?

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<v S13>Well, thank you for allowing me to share. It's a

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<v S13>very critical time in Iran, both politically and economy and

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<v S13>especially spiritually. And they don't match. I mean, economy is bad.

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<v S13>Iranians are in danger of being attacked. And it could

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<v S13>be really bad. And but at the same time, it's

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<v S13>really good spiritually. And I can share all of that. But,

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<v S13>with this nuclear negotiation, of course, the government of Iran's

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<v S13>goal is just to survive, survive Trump at any cost.

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<v S13>And they they will try to get the best deal

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<v S13>from Trump. So a lot of these talks is just

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<v S13>on both sides. I see them as both sides wanting

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<v S13>to get a good deal. I believe the Iranian government will, um,

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<v S13>will accept something, of course, not in public because they

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<v S13>want to save face. But if there is, if there

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<v S13>is a war, if there's an attack, I think it's

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<v S13>going to be very limited.

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<v S1>My question to you is this. And we've talked about

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<v S1>this so many times and I so appreciate your keen insight.

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<v S1>You talk about the two sided face of the leadership

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<v S1>in Iran to the world. It's braggadocio. It's beating their chest.

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<v S1>It's we're going to get you the little Satan and

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<v S1>the Big Satan. But behind closed doors, they're suffering economically.

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<v S1>And the Iranian people are not in support, by and large,

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<v S1>the theocracy. Right? The leaders, I get it, but the

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<v S1>average Iranian wants peace. They're not interested in getting involved

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<v S1>in any kind of a global war. Why now? What

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<v S1>is the trigger mechanism from what you're hearing and your

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<v S1>perception on this hormoz? Why the trigger mechanism? Now, to

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<v S1>say that this is when Israel may in fact strike Iran.

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<v S1>This is a conversation that goes back to Netanyahu holding

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<v S1>up the cartoon of a bomb, saying this is where

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<v S1>they are in terms of their nuclear capabilities. We will

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<v S1>never let them get here. We will stop them. Everybody

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<v S1>remembers that graphic, and that was some time ago. So

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<v S1>why now? And you can hear the music. Forgive me

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<v S1>for asking the question right to the break, but let

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<v S1>me come back for your answer right after this. In

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<v S1>the meantime, Iran. Alive. Iran. Alive. This ministry has always

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<v S1>been important, but now it's more important than ever. Because

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<v S1>as you heard rumors, this is a great time. Spiritually,

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<v S1>it might be. The geopolitics might be upside down, very unstable,

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<v S1>insecure times. Spiritually, there's a hunger and there's an opportunity

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<v S1>now for people to know peace, not like the world gives,

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<v S1>but his peace more with him. Always right after this.

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<v S1>What a reminder that this is not as good as

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<v S1>it gets in the best is yet to come. So

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<v S1>things are percolating in the Middle East again, on high alert,

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<v S1>that Israel may be moving against Iran's nuclear facilities any

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<v S1>time now, which is why the president has now called

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<v S1>military personnel out of that area for their safety. What

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<v S1>a perfect time to be talking to Herman Cheruiyot, who

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<v S1>is the founder of Iran Alive Ministries 24 over seven

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<v S1>from the base of his ministry here in the United States,

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<v S1>the gospel is beamed into Iran, and it's so significant.

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<v S1>We're going to get to the spiritual headlines in a minute.

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<v S1>But I just ask because you're such a brilliant man. Hormuz.

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<v S1>Why now? Why would Israel say this is the moment

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<v S1>to strike again? The facilities is there and I, you know,

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<v S1>you gotta give credit where credit is due. The IDF

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<v S1>is brilliant. to their Intel. Sources say that there's something

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<v S1>that is not known writ large by people that makes

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<v S1>this moment very prescient for striking against Iran, or is

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<v S1>this just an ongoing threat that they finally decided needs

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<v S1>to be eradicated?

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<v S13>Yes. There is a little disagreement between Netanyahu and Trump,

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<v S13>and very understandable. Netanyahu is thinking long term. Trump is

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<v S13>thinking short term. Just during his own course of presidency,

0:18:56.310 --> 0:18:59.830
<v S13>he wants some victories to be done. But what Israel

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<v S13>is thinking, Netanyahu, let's take care of it now. We

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<v S13>never had this chance to take care of the Iranian

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<v S13>nuclear sites. Let's do it now. Because if we delay

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<v S13>and that's what the Iranian government wants, and they will

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<v S13>do it, the sanctions will go away. They get money,

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<v S13>they will build new sites on the ground so that

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<v S13>their capability will not go away. And that's what Israel

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<v S13>is afraid. So this is the best time in history

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<v S13>for us to destroy the nuclear facilities of Iran if

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<v S13>we don't, four years later, maybe Trump will not be

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<v S13>here 2 or 3 years later. Maybe he would. He

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<v S13>would lose the, you know, the Congress. So Iranians are

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<v S13>trying to buy time. But Netanyahu is very smart in

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<v S13>terms of long term planning. He says this is the

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<v S13>time to destroy Iran. Trump says no, let's have a

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<v S13>let's have a deal. Let's go for for now. So

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<v S13>I look good. I stop them and I don't care

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<v S13>much what happens long term. That actually that's the difference

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<v S13>between US policies, because the government changes every four years

0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:09.600
<v S13>and other nations that in the US the president has

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.880
<v S13>to think just short term. And that's the problem for

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<v S13>long term threats like Iran.

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<v S1>Boy, I think that's an insightful observation on your part.

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<v S1>That's absolutely brilliant. If there were to be a strike,

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<v S1>are there any nations that you would identify that would

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<v S1>come to the aid and assistance of Iran?

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<v S13>I don't think so. The closest would be, uh, Russia.

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<v S13>But Russia is not ready to do that. It's very

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<v S13>busy with, uh, you know, Ukraine war. And even then,

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<v S13>they're using Iran as a piece in their negotiation with

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<v S13>the US. They don't love Iran. They don't care about

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<v S13>Iran that much to get involved directly. Never.

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<v S1>Yeah. Yeah. So they've got their own distractions, so they

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<v S1>might have to go it alone, which is very, very interesting.

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<v S1>So we pray for those in authority. We pray that

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<v S1>God will get real wisdom to this particular situation because

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<v S1>it's so desperately needed. But I don't want to miss

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<v S1>the best part of the story, because you talk about

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<v S1>how this is so significant spiritually in Iran right now.

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<v S1>Explain to our friends why.

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<v S13>Well, this is the move of God in history. Iran

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<v S13>has the fastest growing evangelical population in the world right now.

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<v S13>Iran is the only nation, Islamic nation that's already rejected.

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<v S13>Islam and Islam has experienced its It's a greatest defeat

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<v S13>in its history in Iran today. And the openness. Let

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<v S13>me share with you this. I you know, I have

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<v S13>a live broadcast on Thursday. Just yesterday, you know, a

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<v S13>couple hours ago, I was on the air and I

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<v S13>had this young politician, political activist. She's 22, she's a

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<v S13>Gen Z. And I was so amazed by her. She

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<v S13>was so intelligent, so brave. And I told her, well,

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<v S13>how come your generation is so brave? And she told

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<v S13>me this, I wrote it down. Can I read it, please?

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<v S13>She she said, we Gen Z is in Iran. These

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<v S13>are young under 2025. And so we we don't have

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<v S13>fear because we say fear does not stop us from dying.

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<v S13>It stops us from living. So there is a courage

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<v S13>among them. And there is a there is a zeal

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<v S13>to bring change in Iran. And that's why, uh, let

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<v S13>me share some good news with you. The last six months, Janet,

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<v S13>we have seen a surge in the number of salvation

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<v S13>among the young people. Under 25. Under 20. Amazing move

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<v S13>of God. They are very hard to reach because they

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<v S13>have rejected Islam. And now they're coming to Christ. Now,

0:22:43.619 --> 0:22:46.939
<v S13>I talked to them. How come you're interested in Christianity?

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<v S13>I thought you hated all religions. And many of them

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<v S13>say this. I said yes, we rejected Islam. We lived

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<v S13>a godless life for several years. Open sex, drugs, everything.

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<v S13>We tried and we found it very empty. Just like

0:23:03.460 --> 0:23:08.859
<v S13>Solomon said. Vanity of vanities. So after experiencing Islam and

0:23:08.859 --> 0:23:12.740
<v S13>experiencing godlessness, now they are coming to Christ, ready to

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<v S13>receive Christ, and live and even die for him. This

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<v S13>is a move of God among the young people in Iran.

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<v S13>I'm so happy. I'm so excited because I thought they

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<v S13>were very hard to reach. No, they are not.

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<v S1>It's harvest time in Iran. So tell us, as people

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<v S1>in the West who want to pray for what's going

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<v S1>on in Iran, how do we pray specifically right now

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<v S1>at this time?

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<v S13>Pray against war. War is ugly. It brings destruction of resources,

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<v S13>the lives and everything. Just no war. And but at

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<v S13>the same time, pray for the persecuted church in Iran.

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<v S13>The numbers are growing. Iran has millions of Muslim background believers.

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<v S13>But there's no church. There's no way they can grow.

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<v S13>That's why we are putting our emphasis on helping the

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<v S13>church in Iran spiritually. We have online school. Did you

0:24:08.470 --> 0:24:12.230
<v S13>know we have over 4700 students on our online school?

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<v S13>And they're shouting, hey, teach me, equip me! I want

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<v S13>to serve the Lord. So there is a hunger in Iran.

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<v S13>Pray for that hunger and come and join us. Join

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<v S13>you on our live. Let's work together to disciple the nation. Don't.

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<v S13>Don't worry about discipleship. They're coming to Christ like crazy.

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<v S13>They're just coming. Let's disciple them. And Iran will impact

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<v S13>Middle East and the whole world.

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<v S1>Amen. Iran alive. Pray for this ministry. Support this ministry financially.

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<v S1>Get involved. That's the story behind the headline. God bless you.

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<v S1>the market with Janet Parshall. G. Got your pearly out

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<v S1>because we're going to lengthen it. Todd Nettleton is with

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<v S1>us vice president of messenger for the voice of the

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.119
<v S1>martyrs US and the host of the voice of the

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.479
<v S1>Martyrs Radio. Fabulous. I hope you listen to that on

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.439
<v S1>a regular basis. When he's not traveling the world, he's writing.

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.840
<v S1>One of his great books recently is when Faith Is

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.160
<v S1>Forbidden 40 days in the Front Lines with persecuted Christians.

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<v S1>It's like riding along in the car with Todd and

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.120
<v S1>listening to our brothers and sisters who have said, yes, Lord,

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:50.119
<v S1>and in so doing have often reaped a whirlwind because

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.080
<v S1>it's not necessarily easy in all parts of the world

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:56.040
<v S1>to follow Jesus. I'm so grateful for the work of Vhom.

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:58.000
<v S1>I love them, pray for them, by the way. Support

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:00.040
<v S1>their ministry. I just think they're tremendous. And I'm glad

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.880
<v S1>that Todd comes and visits with us on a regular basis.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.600
<v S1>So I want to lengthen your prayer list, but I

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<v S1>also want to get this on your calendar. Do you

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<v S1>know what June 29th is? Well, you don't need to

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.439
<v S1>use a lifeline or call a friend. I'm going to

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<v S1>tell you it is the day of the Christian martyr.

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.720
<v S1>I'm so glad that Vom underscores this. You know, Todd,

0:26:16.930 --> 0:26:20.810
<v S1>I love to see all of the Vom posts. I

0:26:20.850 --> 0:26:22.609
<v S1>didn't know what to call it an X, the posts

0:26:22.609 --> 0:26:24.570
<v S1>that go out, and I love to be able to

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<v S1>read about brothers and sisters, or to look back in

0:26:26.570 --> 0:26:29.129
<v S1>history on the day in which one of my brothers

0:26:29.130 --> 0:26:31.930
<v S1>and sisters from the past has stepped into eternity because

0:26:31.930 --> 0:26:34.170
<v S1>they said, yes, Lord. So tell me about the day

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<v S1>of the martyr.

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<v S14>Well, day of the Christian martyr, as you mentioned, it's

0:26:37.930 --> 0:26:41.970
<v S14>a day we look backwards and honor the example of

0:26:41.970 --> 0:26:45.530
<v S14>brothers and sisters throughout history who have given their lives

0:26:45.530 --> 0:26:48.450
<v S14>for the cause of Christ. And this year's interesting. So

0:26:48.450 --> 0:26:50.730
<v S14>each year we do a short video. This year it's

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<v S14>it's three minutes long, perfect for, uh, Sunday morning church service, which,

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<v S14>by the way, June 29th this year is a Sunday,

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<v S14>perfect for a Sunday school class, a Bible study group.

0:27:00.810 --> 0:27:03.210
<v S14>The interesting thing about this year's video is we have

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<v S14>two martyrs martyred in the same country 2000 years apart.

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<v S14>So one of them, we all know the Apostle Thomas.

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<v S14>We call him Doubting Thomas. Uh, but by the end

0:27:14.490 --> 0:27:17.060
<v S14>of his life, he was missionary Thomas. He had taken

0:27:17.060 --> 0:27:21.180
<v S14>the gospel from Jerusalem all the way to southern India,

0:27:21.380 --> 0:27:24.500
<v S14>and this was before the days of 747. That was

0:27:24.500 --> 0:27:28.140
<v S14>a very long journey. And so he was speared to

0:27:28.140 --> 0:27:32.780
<v S14>death by priests, Hindu priests in southern India. We also

0:27:32.780 --> 0:27:35.700
<v S14>have a second martyr that most of us maybe have

0:27:35.700 --> 0:27:38.580
<v S14>not heard of. His name was Kond Muddu. He was

0:27:38.580 --> 0:27:41.979
<v S14>killed in 2020. Just five years ago, he became a

0:27:41.980 --> 0:27:45.260
<v S14>Christian out of a Hindu background. He began to evangelize.

0:27:45.260 --> 0:27:48.700
<v S14>In fact, his first converts were his own brothers. He

0:27:48.700 --> 0:27:52.180
<v S14>began to face threats. The people realized that they weren't

0:27:52.180 --> 0:27:54.420
<v S14>going to turn him away from Jesus, and they weren't

0:27:54.420 --> 0:27:57.220
<v S14>going to stop him from telling other people. And so

0:27:57.220 --> 0:27:59.979
<v S14>he was stabbed to death, leaving behind a wife and

0:27:59.980 --> 0:28:03.140
<v S14>two young children. So this video shows us that that

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<v S14>following Christ has always meant people being willing to lay

0:28:07.260 --> 0:28:10.100
<v S14>down their lives from the days of the apostles, right

0:28:10.100 --> 0:28:13.140
<v S14>up to today. That's what it looks like for many

0:28:13.140 --> 0:28:15.230
<v S14>of our brothers and sisters to follow Jesus.

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<v S1>With a mere 2000 years in between. What does that

0:28:18.109 --> 0:28:20.669
<v S1>tell you? Wow. Absolutely amazing. One of the things I

0:28:20.670 --> 0:28:23.430
<v S1>love about Vom Tod is the resources. So I want

0:28:23.430 --> 0:28:26.030
<v S1>to get our friends to persecution. They got a bunch

0:28:26.030 --> 0:28:28.510
<v S1>of links, but this is the general one. You want

0:28:28.510 --> 0:28:30.389
<v S1>this one because that's where you go to get the

0:28:30.390 --> 0:28:34.030
<v S1>free monthly newsletter persecution. Com you hear me talk about

0:28:34.030 --> 0:28:36.830
<v S1>this all the time. It is wonderful for your personal

0:28:36.830 --> 0:28:38.550
<v S1>devotions to be able to look at the face of

0:28:38.550 --> 0:28:40.830
<v S1>brothers and sisters who have paid a price to be

0:28:40.870 --> 0:28:42.630
<v S1>able to share that with your family and your family.

0:28:42.630 --> 0:28:45.390
<v S1>Quiet time together. Youth leader, Sunday school pastor from the

0:28:45.390 --> 0:28:48.550
<v S1>front of the pulpit. Great resource, but for the resources

0:28:48.550 --> 0:28:51.990
<v S1>that go to the day of the Christian martyr, it's persecution.

0:28:54.110 --> 0:28:56.350
<v S1>Some of the things are besides the video. Todd what

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<v S1>else do you have for churches?

0:28:57.950 --> 0:29:00.910
<v S14>Well, all of these are digital, so you can download

0:29:00.910 --> 0:29:03.070
<v S14>them right from the website and all of them are free.

0:29:03.110 --> 0:29:05.390
<v S14>There's no charge for any of this. So there is

0:29:05.390 --> 0:29:08.030
<v S14>the video that we mentioned, three minute video. There are

0:29:08.030 --> 0:29:10.750
<v S14>questions for reflection. So hey, you want to turn this

0:29:10.790 --> 0:29:13.550
<v S14>into your study, your Sunday school lesson that week. There

0:29:13.590 --> 0:29:15.990
<v S14>are questions to help you do that. There are church

0:29:15.990 --> 0:29:18.870
<v S14>bulletin inserts so you can put a story in every

0:29:18.870 --> 0:29:22.150
<v S14>bulletin for every member of your church. If you're a pastor,

0:29:22.150 --> 0:29:24.550
<v S14>there's a sermon outline there. Maybe you want to give

0:29:24.550 --> 0:29:28.350
<v S14>this whole Sunday, June 29th, which, by the way, is

0:29:28.350 --> 0:29:32.110
<v S14>the anniversary of the execution of the Apostle Paul outside

0:29:32.110 --> 0:29:35.190
<v S14>the city of Rome. That's the significance of June 29th.

0:29:35.430 --> 0:29:37.910
<v S14>There is also a guide for those who are talking

0:29:37.910 --> 0:29:40.710
<v S14>to children, maybe as a Sunday school class teacher or

0:29:40.710 --> 0:29:43.270
<v S14>maybe as a parent. How do I, you know, how

0:29:43.270 --> 0:29:46.550
<v S14>do I talk to my fourth grader about martyrdom and

0:29:46.550 --> 0:29:49.950
<v S14>persecuted Christians in a way that doesn't freak him out,

0:29:49.950 --> 0:29:54.550
<v S14>but also shares the fact, the reality that following Christ

0:29:54.590 --> 0:29:58.230
<v S14>often means sacrifice? There's a guide to help you do

0:29:58.230 --> 0:29:59.870
<v S14>that in an age appropriate way.

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<v S1>Again, one of the many things I love about Vom

0:30:03.350 --> 0:30:06.750
<v S1>are the resources. So persecution. You need that to get

0:30:06.750 --> 0:30:11.480
<v S1>the monthly free newsletter persecution Martyr. And all of the

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.200
<v S1>resources that Todd just talked about are right there for

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.840
<v S1>your downloading. June 29th, the day of the Christian Martyr,

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.400
<v S1>which I think is very significant when you look at

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.040
<v S1>all of those three people combined on June 29th, what

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.200
<v S1>we're talking about this year, that's fabulous. But fast forward,

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.520
<v S1>this is not a past tense conversation. This is an

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:32.720
<v S1>ongoing conversation that there are people today who are still

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.400
<v S1>losing their lives because they said, yes, Lord. And I

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:37.880
<v S1>have to tell you, Todd, I don't know when the

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<v S1>last time, as we talked about Ethiopia, because I don't

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.920
<v S1>generally think of that as being a country where there's

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:47.120
<v S1>marked hostility against people who profess a relationship with Jesus Christ,

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.000
<v S1>but it costs someone recently their life. Tell me about that.

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.080
<v S14>Yeah. It did. There are areas. And I realized as

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.200
<v S14>I was looking through the stories, we're talking about this.

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<v S14>This is a heavy day. This half hour is heavy

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.320
<v S14>for us because there has been so much suffering. And

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:05.800
<v S14>there are areas in Ethiopia that are almost 100% Muslim.

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.050
<v S14>And so you go into one of those areas And

0:31:09.050 --> 0:31:13.410
<v S14>this young man, his name was Ibrahim Muhammad. And I

0:31:13.410 --> 0:31:16.010
<v S14>mentioned in my book there's an evangelist I met named Muhammad.

0:31:16.050 --> 0:31:19.530
<v S14>I love Christians with the name Muhammad because, you know,

0:31:19.570 --> 0:31:21.970
<v S14>they they weren't born in a Christian family and given

0:31:21.970 --> 0:31:26.290
<v S14>the name Muhammad, uh, they converted at some point they

0:31:26.290 --> 0:31:31.490
<v S14>met Jesus for Ibrahim Muhammad. That happened in 2021. Within

0:31:31.490 --> 0:31:34.850
<v S14>a year, he had led 80 other people to Christ.

0:31:34.850 --> 0:31:36.969
<v S14>So so this is not somebody who got saved and

0:31:36.970 --> 0:31:39.810
<v S14>then was real quiet about it. Within a year, he

0:31:39.810 --> 0:31:42.170
<v S14>had led 80 people to Christ. He had planted a

0:31:42.170 --> 0:31:46.090
<v S14>little church. Here's what seems to be what crossed the line.

0:31:46.090 --> 0:31:49.610
<v S14>He had been threatened many times, but in May, early May,

0:31:50.010 --> 0:31:53.170
<v S14>he had donated some of his own land to build

0:31:53.170 --> 0:31:55.610
<v S14>a church building. So they were not just going to

0:31:55.610 --> 0:31:57.770
<v S14>meet together as Christians. Now. They were going to have

0:31:57.770 --> 0:32:01.930
<v S14>a church building in that community. That may have been

0:32:01.930 --> 0:32:04.450
<v S14>what what was sort of the last straw for the

0:32:04.450 --> 0:32:07.130
<v S14>Muslims who had threatened him. They were watching what he

0:32:07.220 --> 0:32:09.780
<v S14>was doing, and now he's saying, hey, here's some property.

0:32:09.820 --> 0:32:12.660
<v S14>We're going to build a church on May the 15th.

0:32:12.700 --> 0:32:17.060
<v S14>A man dressed in Muslim clothing came up to Ibrahim Muhammad.

0:32:17.060 --> 0:32:20.460
<v S14>He said, this is your last day witnessing and then

0:32:20.460 --> 0:32:24.340
<v S14>shot him. Three days later in the hospital, Ibrahim died.

0:32:24.700 --> 0:32:27.100
<v S14>A man who laid down his life for the cause

0:32:27.100 --> 0:32:27.900
<v S14>of Christ.

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<v S1>Wow. Amazing. And so it's still. It depends on what

0:32:32.060 --> 0:32:33.620
<v S1>part of the country you're in. You know, we think

0:32:33.620 --> 0:32:36.420
<v S1>about Ethiopian Jews. We think about some of the oldest

0:32:36.420 --> 0:32:38.780
<v S1>churches in the world being there. But there are sections

0:32:38.780 --> 0:32:41.420
<v S1>that are Islamic dominated. And that's a result of this. Well,

0:32:41.460 --> 0:32:44.420
<v S1>our heart breaks for that. I'm so sad. Um, talk

0:32:44.420 --> 0:32:46.820
<v S1>to me about some conversations you had recently with two

0:32:46.820 --> 0:32:50.420
<v S1>of your Vom leaders who are overseeing your work in Africa.

0:32:50.940 --> 0:32:53.700
<v S14>Yeah. Just in the last the last month, we have

0:32:53.700 --> 0:32:56.380
<v S14>had two Vom radio episodes. And people can find that

0:32:56.380 --> 0:32:59.820
<v S14>wherever they listen to podcasts. But we've had conversations with

0:32:59.860 --> 0:33:02.700
<v S14>two of our leaders overseeing our work in Africa, and

0:33:02.900 --> 0:33:05.870
<v S14>one of the things that came through in these conversations

0:33:05.870 --> 0:33:09.870
<v S14>is just the level of violence that is happening against

0:33:09.870 --> 0:33:13.190
<v S14>our brothers and sisters on the African continent. It is,

0:33:13.710 --> 0:33:16.030
<v S14>you know, we think of them as sort of free countries.

0:33:16.030 --> 0:33:19.230
<v S14>And one of the leaders had actually transitioned from leading

0:33:19.230 --> 0:33:22.590
<v S14>our work in Southern Asia, where, you know, the governments

0:33:22.590 --> 0:33:27.990
<v S14>are against persecution, especially India. The government is against the Christians.

0:33:28.150 --> 0:33:30.950
<v S14>He moved over to Africa, where the governments, they say

0:33:30.950 --> 0:33:33.910
<v S14>all the right things. Oh, of course we have Christian citizens. Yes.

0:33:33.910 --> 0:33:38.270
<v S14>That's great. But then you have jihadist groups that are

0:33:38.270 --> 0:33:42.350
<v S14>coming into villages and opening fire. You have incidences where

0:33:42.470 --> 0:33:45.950
<v S14>70 or 80 people are killed. You have thousands of

0:33:45.950 --> 0:33:49.310
<v S14>people being displaced in in one attack. And he just

0:33:49.310 --> 0:33:53.230
<v S14>said that the level of violence is so great, it's

0:33:53.230 --> 0:33:56.550
<v S14>almost mind boggling what our brothers and sisters are suffering.

0:33:56.990 --> 0:34:00.150
<v S1>Wow. Unbelievable. So tell our friends, first of all, I

0:34:00.150 --> 0:34:02.870
<v S1>would be remiss how they can listen to Vom radio

0:34:02.870 --> 0:34:05.390
<v S1>because if it's not carried on a station, we can

0:34:05.390 --> 0:34:06.910
<v S1>listen to it online, can we not?

0:34:07.270 --> 0:34:12.070
<v S14>Absolutely. VOA radio Dot net is the radio website. Vom

0:34:12.070 --> 0:34:14.990
<v S14>radio dot net. You can search for a broadcast station

0:34:14.989 --> 0:34:17.270
<v S14>right on the site, so you can see if there's

0:34:17.270 --> 0:34:20.110
<v S14>something close to you that's broadcasting it. You can listen

0:34:20.150 --> 0:34:22.990
<v S14>online or it links you to the different podcast apps.

0:34:22.989 --> 0:34:25.669
<v S14>So whatever, wherever you listen to podcasts, you can find

0:34:25.710 --> 0:34:26.870
<v S14>Vom radio as well.

0:34:27.390 --> 0:34:30.310
<v S1>Wow. Excellent. You know, and when we talk about Benin,

0:34:30.310 --> 0:34:33.390
<v S1>we actually talked about this before in The Voodoo influence

0:34:33.390 --> 0:34:36.070
<v S1>because I remember asking you, you don't hear about voodoo.

0:34:36.110 --> 0:34:39.230
<v S1>Usually it's Islam, right? But voodoo is this real dark

0:34:39.230 --> 0:34:43.430
<v S1>pagan practice works its way in. And so you talk

0:34:43.469 --> 0:34:46.350
<v S1>about spiritual warfare. How do we pray specifically for someone

0:34:46.350 --> 0:34:48.710
<v S1>like that when they live in an area of Africa

0:34:48.710 --> 0:34:50.910
<v S1>where voodoo practices take precedent?

0:34:51.350 --> 0:34:53.710
<v S14>You know, you know, it is fascinating because when we

0:34:53.710 --> 0:34:56.710
<v S14>talk about persecution in Africa, almost always we're talking about

0:34:56.710 --> 0:35:00.710
<v S14>radical Islam. Yes, yes. In Benin it is it is voodoo.

0:35:00.750 --> 0:35:04.920
<v S14>It is spirit worship. and I'm encouraged by this in

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:10.560
<v S14>one aspect, because what happens is the vodouists, the spirit worshipers,

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.839
<v S14>they see that their chance and their charms and their

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.160
<v S14>things don't work when there is a follower of Jesus

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.359
<v S14>Christ in their midst, when there is a church that

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.560
<v S14>is built in their community. Suddenly all their spells and

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.799
<v S14>all their things, they don't have power anymore. That's what

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.560
<v S14>makes them so angry. It's like, wait a minute. When

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.080
<v S14>the Christians came in, now we can't do what we

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.520
<v S14>were doing before. I'm encouraged by that because it shows

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.040
<v S14>us the power of God, but it doesn't make it

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.000
<v S14>any easier for our brothers and sisters. And what happened

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.759
<v S14>just last month is a lady, a Christian lady. She's

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.120
<v S14>been a Christian for 15 years, but she was beaten

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.799
<v S14>almost to death. In fact, she's in the hospital. Our

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.400
<v S14>contacts there are concerned whether she will survive or not.

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:57.680
<v S14>And this was by her own family, because she wouldn't

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:01.250
<v S14>lead them in the voodoo rituals. That is sort of

0:36:01.290 --> 0:36:03.890
<v S14>her job as the matriarch of the family. They wanted

0:36:03.890 --> 0:36:05.490
<v S14>to kill her because of that.

0:36:06.010 --> 0:36:09.130
<v S1>Wow. Unbelievable. Well, and, you know, it's one thing for

0:36:09.130 --> 0:36:11.530
<v S1>us to talk about spiritual warfare. It's another to hear

0:36:11.530 --> 0:36:14.450
<v S1>a story just like this coming out of Benin. By

0:36:14.450 --> 0:36:16.770
<v S1>the way, when you read the verse and you just

0:36:16.810 --> 0:36:19.129
<v S1>hang on to the power of that scripture that says,

0:36:19.130 --> 0:36:20.890
<v S1>greater is he that is in us than he that

0:36:20.890 --> 0:36:23.649
<v S1>is in the world, those voodoo worshipers get to see

0:36:23.650 --> 0:36:26.650
<v S1>that up close and personal. We've got more stories coming

0:36:26.650 --> 0:36:28.410
<v S1>out of Africa, and also we're going to focus on

0:36:28.410 --> 0:36:31.930
<v S1>Afghanistan as well. Todd Nettleton, not Todd Nettleton, is with

0:36:31.930 --> 0:36:35.930
<v S1>us from voice of the martyrs. Persecution. Com forward slash martyr.

0:36:35.969 --> 0:36:37.450
<v S1>I want to give you that again. So you'll get

0:36:37.450 --> 0:36:41.490
<v S1>your resources for the day of the Christian Martyr, June 29th.

0:36:41.530 --> 0:36:56.489
<v S1>More with Todd right after this. Persecution for the day

0:36:56.489 --> 0:36:59.500
<v S1>of the Christian Martyr is coming June 29th. I give

0:36:59.500 --> 0:37:02.660
<v S1>you that website because it's a wonderful way for you

0:37:02.660 --> 0:37:05.219
<v S1>to get the resources, and because that day falls on

0:37:05.219 --> 0:37:08.020
<v S1>a Sunday and you can participate as a form of

0:37:08.020 --> 0:37:10.459
<v S1>remembrance in your church, in your home and your small group.

0:37:10.500 --> 0:37:13.060
<v S1>Tons of resources. Very typical of voice of the Martyrs

0:37:13.260 --> 0:37:17.660
<v S1>Persecution complex. We're going to linger in Africa a bit more.

0:37:17.900 --> 0:37:21.340
<v S1>Burkina Faso, you talk about some pastors and some Christians

0:37:21.340 --> 0:37:24.620
<v S1>there and you talk about being heavy. This is recent history.

0:37:24.660 --> 0:37:28.020
<v S1>We're barely halfway into June. This happened at the end

0:37:28.020 --> 0:37:30.100
<v S1>of May. That's how fresh this is. Todd, tell me

0:37:30.100 --> 0:37:30.700
<v S1>the story.

0:37:31.020 --> 0:37:34.339
<v S14>Yeah. Unfortunately, this is very fresh. So our brother we

0:37:34.340 --> 0:37:38.380
<v S14>mentioned in Ethiopia was shot on May the 15th. May 23rd,

0:37:38.420 --> 0:37:42.219
<v S14>eight days later in Burkina Faso. Across the continent of Africa,

0:37:42.540 --> 0:37:46.500
<v S14>a large group of jihadists came into a village in

0:37:46.500 --> 0:37:50.900
<v S14>Burkina Faso, and they began to attack. And it's interesting

0:37:50.900 --> 0:37:53.900
<v S14>to me because the first home they went to was

0:37:53.900 --> 0:37:57.339
<v S14>the home of the pastor in that village, the pastor

0:37:57.390 --> 0:38:00.670
<v S14>and five other Christians were actually sitting in the courtyard

0:38:00.670 --> 0:38:03.830
<v S14>of the home. They heard the jihadist coming and they fled. Uh,

0:38:03.830 --> 0:38:06.029
<v S14>just just like we would do, they literally ran for

0:38:06.030 --> 0:38:09.750
<v S14>their lives. Well, unfortunately, they were all captured and shot.

0:38:09.750 --> 0:38:14.029
<v S14>So the pastor, five Christians martyred that day by the jihadist,

0:38:14.030 --> 0:38:17.390
<v S14>they then started going house to house and burning down homes.

0:38:17.390 --> 0:38:19.989
<v S14>And so by the time they were done, more than

0:38:19.989 --> 0:38:22.870
<v S14>a thousand Christians, most of them are women and children.

0:38:22.870 --> 0:38:26.550
<v S14>More than a thousand Christians were displaced by that attack.

0:38:26.750 --> 0:38:28.750
<v S14>They had to flee. Some of the people in the

0:38:28.750 --> 0:38:32.029
<v S14>next village heard about the threat. They also fled from

0:38:32.030 --> 0:38:36.750
<v S14>their homes. This is unfortunately another day in Burkina Faso.

0:38:36.790 --> 0:38:40.670
<v S14>Like these kind of attacks are not out of the ordinary.

0:38:40.710 --> 0:38:43.989
<v S14>They've become far too common. But I think going back

0:38:43.989 --> 0:38:46.469
<v S14>to the what, what is really interesting to me, the

0:38:46.469 --> 0:38:48.710
<v S14>first place they went was the home of the pastor.

0:38:48.950 --> 0:38:51.509
<v S14>This wasn't just people who were angry or people who

0:38:51.510 --> 0:38:54.910
<v S14>wanted to shoot somebody. They were looking for the leader

0:38:54.910 --> 0:38:57.629
<v S14>of the Christians in this village. That's the first house

0:38:57.630 --> 0:38:58.510
<v S14>that they went to.

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<v S1>Now this is and I want to underscore this based

0:39:01.070 --> 0:39:03.830
<v S1>on what you were telling us before about Benin. In

0:39:03.830 --> 0:39:07.350
<v S1>this case, the salt comes from jihadists, right? Tied back

0:39:07.350 --> 0:39:07.950
<v S1>to Islam.

0:39:08.270 --> 0:39:11.989
<v S14>Yeah. This is coming from jihadists. Burkina Faso shares a

0:39:11.989 --> 0:39:16.190
<v S14>border with Mali, which is pretty uncontrolled. And so they're

0:39:16.190 --> 0:39:19.190
<v S14>jihadists coming back and forth across that border. They are

0:39:19.190 --> 0:39:21.630
<v S14>able to come across, attack a village like this, and

0:39:21.630 --> 0:39:25.150
<v S14>then go back across into Mali. And really, the Burkina

0:39:25.150 --> 0:39:28.710
<v S14>Faso government and the soldiers there haven't been able to

0:39:28.750 --> 0:39:32.110
<v S14>provide security. They haven't been able to sort of keep

0:39:32.110 --> 0:39:33.589
<v S14>these attacks from happening.

0:39:33.989 --> 0:39:36.469
<v S1>This is a terrible question to ask, but are they

0:39:36.469 --> 0:39:41.910
<v S1>unable to provide or are they unwilling to provide that?

0:39:42.070 --> 0:39:44.230
<v S14>It is a terrible question, and it's a hard question

0:39:44.230 --> 0:39:46.790
<v S14>to answer. I think it's a little bit of both.

0:39:46.830 --> 0:39:50.030
<v S14>I'm not sure how committed they are to protecting the church,

0:39:50.030 --> 0:39:53.670
<v S14>to protecting the Christians, but also they they simply can't.

0:39:53.710 --> 0:39:56.680
<v S14>The border is so long. There's so much territory to

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.759
<v S14>try to cover. It is a very difficult place to

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:03.240
<v S14>provide security. Even if you are highly motivated.

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.359
<v S1>Wow. I'm going to pull over to the side of

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.080
<v S1>the road. We are going to get to Afghanistan in

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:08.920
<v S1>a minute. But I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you,

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.160
<v S1>with all your knowledge and all your travels. God, if

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.360
<v S1>I were to ask you what is the hottest spot

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.359
<v S1>on planet Earth right now from your vantage point, to

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.880
<v S1>be a follower of Jesus, where would you point?

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:25.520
<v S14>Ooh, that's a hard question to answer. I honestly, Burkina

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.880
<v S14>Faso is one of them and it's really under the radar.

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:32.000
<v S14>The church isn't talking about it, the news media isn't

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.920
<v S14>talking about it. But as I mentioned, these kind of

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.400
<v S14>attacks are happening like almost every week. And I, I

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:42.120
<v S14>think of one particular denomination that we are working alongside

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:45.080
<v S14>in Burkina Faso. In a matter of a three month span,

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.720
<v S14>they had six pastors killed. Um, and again, it's under

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.719
<v S14>the radar. It's not something that we're talking about, but

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.610
<v S14>it's reality for them every single week. Another attack, another attack,

0:40:55.650 --> 0:40:59.050
<v S14>another village that had to flee. And so many displaced

0:40:59.050 --> 0:41:03.530
<v S14>Christians and the church there is overwhelmed by the need of,

0:41:03.690 --> 0:41:06.129
<v S14>you know, these Christians flee from the village and they

0:41:06.130 --> 0:41:08.569
<v S14>come into the city, and then they show up at

0:41:08.570 --> 0:41:10.489
<v S14>the church and say, hey, you know, we had to

0:41:10.489 --> 0:41:12.370
<v S14>flee for our lives. Can you help us? And the

0:41:12.370 --> 0:41:14.410
<v S14>church is like, man, we would love to help you,

0:41:14.410 --> 0:41:17.330
<v S14>but we don't have the resources. That's actually part of

0:41:17.330 --> 0:41:19.609
<v S14>what voice of the martyrs is doing, is equipping the

0:41:19.610 --> 0:41:22.210
<v S14>church in Burkina Faso to be able to help some

0:41:22.210 --> 0:41:24.970
<v S14>of these that are displaced from their homes and their villages.

0:41:25.010 --> 0:41:27.370
<v S1>Wow. I'm glad I asked, because I just had this

0:41:27.370 --> 0:41:29.490
<v S1>sense based on what you were saying about Burkina Faso,

0:41:29.530 --> 0:41:32.930
<v S1>that maybe that was a particular problematic area. Let me

0:41:32.930 --> 0:41:35.890
<v S1>linger if I can, just a little bit longer in Africa. Todd,

0:41:35.890 --> 0:41:37.730
<v S1>what in the world is happening in Nigeria.

0:41:38.969 --> 0:41:41.529
<v S14>That that was the other one. I was like, ah,

0:41:41.570 --> 0:41:44.969
<v S14>should I mention Nigeria or Burkina Faso, northern Nigeria also,

0:41:45.010 --> 0:41:48.330
<v S14>we see these kind of attacks and um, it's so

0:41:48.330 --> 0:41:51.819
<v S14>frustrating because they happen. And then the government says, oh,

0:41:51.860 --> 0:41:53.540
<v S14>we're going to put a stop to this. We're going

0:41:53.580 --> 0:41:57.900
<v S14>to establish security. And then they don't. Um, and it's like, okay,

0:41:57.940 --> 0:42:01.299
<v S14>another attack. Another attack. And we have seen, even in

0:42:01.300 --> 0:42:05.020
<v S14>the last month, several really large scale attacks where a

0:42:05.020 --> 0:42:08.820
<v S14>lot of people were affected. And so it is northern

0:42:08.820 --> 0:42:12.339
<v S14>Nigeria also very, very difficult place to be a follower

0:42:12.340 --> 0:42:13.260
<v S14>of Christ.

0:42:13.300 --> 0:42:17.100
<v S1>Yeah, exactly. And again, let me ask you, because religious liberty,

0:42:17.100 --> 0:42:21.100
<v S1>the geopolitics intersect, like it or not. So in Nigeria,

0:42:21.140 --> 0:42:25.219
<v S1>because this is an ongoing people group specific assault, I mean,

0:42:25.219 --> 0:42:28.259
<v S1>I was looking at some horrific pictures last weekend where

0:42:28.260 --> 0:42:30.660
<v S1>their people are butchered. There's no other way to say it.

0:42:30.660 --> 0:42:32.780
<v S1>I'll just say that and move on because it's so

0:42:32.820 --> 0:42:35.900
<v S1>grotesque to contemplate. But what is the government doing to

0:42:35.940 --> 0:42:38.140
<v S1>mitigate this in action?

0:42:38.180 --> 0:42:42.779
<v S14>Foments right. Not not enough is the answer. And right now,

0:42:42.780 --> 0:42:45.180
<v S14>what they're doing, and frankly, for years what they've been

0:42:45.180 --> 0:42:47.580
<v S14>doing is talking. Uh oh. Yeah. We need to get

0:42:47.580 --> 0:42:50.780
<v S14>a handle on that. Oh, yeah. If if this happens,

0:42:50.780 --> 0:42:53.260
<v S14>then we'll be able to stop those attacks and. Yeah,

0:42:53.300 --> 0:42:56.660
<v S14>but they're not they're not stopping them. And in that

0:42:56.660 --> 0:42:59.299
<v S14>case and you talked about this in Burkina Faso as well.

0:42:59.300 --> 0:43:01.660
<v S14>It's like you start to question the will in in

0:43:01.660 --> 0:43:05.739
<v S14>some cases. You know, we have heard stories where armed

0:43:05.780 --> 0:43:10.460
<v S14>military people stepped aside and let an attack happen. Um,

0:43:10.500 --> 0:43:15.180
<v S14>and so it's like if that animosity between Christian and

0:43:15.180 --> 0:43:19.420
<v S14>Muslim that sometimes supersedes your job, it supersedes your uniform.

0:43:19.420 --> 0:43:22.700
<v S14>It's like, well, wait a minute. If you're attacking the

0:43:22.700 --> 0:43:25.580
<v S14>people I consider my enemies, why would I get in

0:43:25.580 --> 0:43:29.180
<v S14>your way of doing that? And so it is frustrating

0:43:29.180 --> 0:43:32.580
<v S14>how often the Nigerian government talks about religious freedom, how

0:43:32.580 --> 0:43:36.500
<v S14>often they talk about protecting their citizens who are religious minorities,

0:43:36.780 --> 0:43:39.620
<v S14>and then comparing that to what actually happens. And it's

0:43:39.620 --> 0:43:41.740
<v S14>so difficult and so frustrating.

0:43:42.020 --> 0:43:44.299
<v S1>Thank you for touching on that because it is a

0:43:44.300 --> 0:43:48.750
<v S1>tremendously awful story. Afghanistan. You've heard some reports, boy, talk

0:43:48.750 --> 0:43:50.110
<v S1>to me about the Taliban now.

0:43:50.510 --> 0:43:53.390
<v S14>Yeah. Speaking. Speaking of broken promises, let's talk about the

0:43:53.390 --> 0:43:56.469
<v S14>Taliban in Afghanistan. We have heard reports just in the

0:43:56.469 --> 0:44:00.990
<v S14>last few weeks that they are more actively pursuing Christians,

0:44:00.989 --> 0:44:05.550
<v S14>especially Christian leaders. House church meetings. There are several leaders

0:44:05.550 --> 0:44:08.110
<v S14>who have been detained. And right now we don't know

0:44:08.150 --> 0:44:11.270
<v S14>their whereabouts. We don't know what's happening to them. That's

0:44:11.270 --> 0:44:13.510
<v S14>another thing for our prayer lists. Um.

0:44:13.989 --> 0:44:16.469
<v S1>Todd, it is heavy. But then again, this is a

0:44:16.469 --> 0:44:18.990
<v S1>battle of good and evil. These are the spiritual wars

0:44:18.989 --> 0:44:21.350
<v S1>we can't see with our eyes. These are. These are

0:44:21.350 --> 0:44:23.430
<v S1>people who are saying yes and paying a cost. And

0:44:23.430 --> 0:44:25.670
<v S1>that's why we have these conversations with Todd on a

0:44:25.670 --> 0:44:28.270
<v S1>regular basis to lengthen your prayer list. So you can

0:44:28.270 --> 0:44:30.470
<v S1>be a part of a global movement that prays for

0:44:30.469 --> 0:44:33.270
<v S1>our brothers and sisters. So support Vom. Check out the

0:44:33.270 --> 0:44:36.110
<v S1>resources for the day of the Christian Martyr. Todd. Blessings

0:44:36.110 --> 0:44:38.229
<v S1>and thank you. Thank you friends. We'll see you next

0:44:38.230 --> 0:44:40.230
<v S1>time on In the Market with Janet Parshall.

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<v S15>Back.