1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,119 S1: Do you see evidence that God is on the move today? 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,680 S1: It could be micro movement, meaning he's doing something in 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,240 S1: your heart. He's changing you. He's transforming you from the 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,960 S1: inside out. Or might be something you see around you, 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,320 S1: at your church, in your community, in a public school, 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,120 S1: a business college campus, a sports field. Today on Chris 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,200 S1: Fabry Live, we are on the hunt for God at work, 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,720 S1: God on the move. And we're going to look in 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,480 S1: two specific locations with two guests. And I would love 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,600 S1: to hear from you. How is God on the move 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,600 S1: in your world? What's he doing? You can call us 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,800 S1: or answer on our Facebook page. Barbara said this we 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,800 S1: are seeing new faces at church. Many young single adults, interestingly, 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,120 S1: mostly men and young couples coming to our church. God 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,640 S1: is most assuredly moving. It's delightful because young people are 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,820 S1: the future of the church. We welcome them with their 17 00:01:00,820 --> 00:01:04,740 S1: un tattooed old open arms. I like that, Barbara. Thank you. 18 00:01:05,180 --> 00:01:08,580 S1: God's on the move. Some encouragement for you today. Let's 19 00:01:08,580 --> 00:01:10,819 S1: get started. First with a thank you to Ryan McConaughey 20 00:01:10,860 --> 00:01:14,259 S1: doing all things technical. Trish is our producer. Lisa's helping out. 21 00:01:14,260 --> 00:01:16,380 S1: Josh will be answering your calls. And a big thank 22 00:01:16,420 --> 00:01:18,860 S1: you to those who support this program with a gift 23 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:21,260 S1: here in the month of January, we're sending you the 24 00:01:21,260 --> 00:01:24,420 S1: little book by Doctor Michael Rudnick that tackles a big question, 25 00:01:24,459 --> 00:01:28,380 S1: a controversial one. How should Christians think about Israel? It's 26 00:01:28,380 --> 00:01:31,900 S1: a quick guide to God's covenants, biblical prophecy, and the 27 00:01:31,900 --> 00:01:34,459 S1: Jewish people. I would love to put one in the 28 00:01:34,459 --> 00:01:37,060 S1: mail to you. So reach out today with a gift 29 00:01:37,060 --> 00:01:41,860 S1: of any size eight, six, six, 95 is our number. 30 00:01:42,140 --> 00:01:47,420 S1: Or just go to Chris. Ten days left in January. 31 00:01:47,420 --> 00:01:51,180 S1: So that's after that. You're on your own, but we'd 32 00:01:51,180 --> 00:01:53,540 S1: love to hear from you and thanks for your support. 33 00:01:53,540 --> 00:01:57,260 S1: Your support means we have these kinds of conversations like 34 00:01:57,260 --> 00:02:00,150 S1: we're going to have today. A really encouraging to you 35 00:02:00,150 --> 00:02:02,350 S1: and other people up and down the the cul de 36 00:02:02,350 --> 00:02:08,870 S1: sac that you live where you live. (866) 953-2279 or go 37 00:02:08,870 --> 00:02:13,030 S1: to Chris. Hey, if you want to become a partner 38 00:02:13,030 --> 00:02:15,470 S1: and give each month, you'll get my back fence. Post 39 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:18,990 S1: a video that we send out every week. Tomorrow I 40 00:02:18,990 --> 00:02:22,470 S1: think we're sending out one with Doctor Redlich, so become 41 00:02:22,470 --> 00:02:27,470 S1: a friend or partner today. Chris Fabry live. I love 42 00:02:27,470 --> 00:02:30,750 S1: reconnecting with friends. We have met through the years, and 43 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:34,070 S1: I met our first guest today in prison. A team 44 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:37,030 S1: of us that from Moody had the privilege almost a 45 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:40,549 S1: dozen years ago to travel to Angola, the Louisiana State 46 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:44,750 S1: Penitentiary there. And through the years it has been known 47 00:02:44,750 --> 00:02:47,790 S1: as well, a difficult place to be incarcerated, let's put 48 00:02:47,790 --> 00:02:51,750 S1: it that way. But people like Mike Broyles are changing 49 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:54,990 S1: that script. Mike has been in ministry for more than 50 00:02:54,990 --> 00:02:58,970 S1: 50 years, served as executive director of a prison ministry 51 00:02:58,970 --> 00:03:04,770 S1: called Lifeline global Ministries, has done that since 2013, is 52 00:03:04,770 --> 00:03:09,089 S1: a shepherding pastor at Valencia Hills Community Church in California. 53 00:03:09,330 --> 00:03:11,810 S1: He's been married to his wife, Debbie, for more than 54 00:03:11,810 --> 00:03:16,010 S1: 50 years, two sons in the ministry, a number of grandchildren. 55 00:03:16,010 --> 00:03:20,970 S1: And he's the author of Only God Transforming One Inmate 56 00:03:20,970 --> 00:03:23,290 S1: and Family at a time. We have that linked at 57 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:27,490 S1: Kris Livorno. Mike, how you doing today? 58 00:03:28,130 --> 00:03:30,929 S2: We're doing great. Chris. Thank you for having me on 59 00:03:30,930 --> 00:03:31,810 S2: your program. 60 00:03:32,370 --> 00:03:35,010 S1: Glad to do it. Because a mutual friend reached out 61 00:03:35,010 --> 00:03:37,050 S1: and said, hey, you haven't talked with Mike in a while. 62 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:39,410 S1: You need to get him on because there is some news. 63 00:03:39,410 --> 00:03:44,010 S1: God is on the move on death row. So is 64 00:03:44,010 --> 00:03:44,770 S1: that true? 65 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:51,930 S2: Very true, very true. At Angola State Prison or Louisiana 66 00:03:51,970 --> 00:03:56,670 S2: State Penitentiary? Yes. God's in the To move even in 67 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:57,390 S2: death row. 68 00:03:59,390 --> 00:04:03,470 S1: I, uh, I remember going there and asking, what about 69 00:04:03,470 --> 00:04:07,350 S1: death row? It's like, no, no, you can't. It was 70 00:04:07,790 --> 00:04:11,350 S1: not you. It was very difficult to have any contact 71 00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:14,630 S1: with the inmates. So how did this work out for 72 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:16,430 S1: you to have contact? 73 00:04:17,470 --> 00:04:22,790 S2: Yes, sir. To beautiful God's story in a way. We 74 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:27,190 S2: have a newer warden at Angola State Prison who's a 75 00:04:27,190 --> 00:04:34,830 S2: Christ follower. And, uh, we do Malachi. Dad, Bible studies, uh, 76 00:04:34,870 --> 00:04:39,790 S2: in 40 states and 20 countries around the world. And 77 00:04:39,790 --> 00:04:44,349 S2: our main home base is Angola State Prison. And so 78 00:04:45,150 --> 00:04:49,590 S2: I had heard that the warden at Angola said we 79 00:04:49,589 --> 00:04:55,600 S2: could have Malachi dads and death row. well, that that 80 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:02,240 S2: was a that was a delight to hear. So in, in, uh, 81 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:08,200 S2: late August, they started having 12 guys gathered together in 82 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,160 S2: a room on death row. Many of these guys had 83 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:20,120 S2: been inside for 20 to 30 years. And so they 84 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:26,120 S2: have another gentleman that comes in who facilitates the Bible 85 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:31,120 S2: study of Malachi dads. And he's been in Angola for 86 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,520 S2: 37 years in a different part of the prison. And 87 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,280 S2: so I said to the warden, warden, I said, warden, 88 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,440 S2: I'd sure love to be a fly on the wall 89 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,040 S2: and just go to a class and listen to the 90 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,440 S2: men and see what they're learning. And he said, sure, 91 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:55,220 S2: come on in. So in November I went in. Chris 92 00:05:55,220 --> 00:05:59,300 S2: did not knowing what I was getting into. Exactly. And, 93 00:05:59,339 --> 00:06:04,140 S2: and so, uh, I, I went in with a friend 94 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:09,500 S2: and the chaplain and they invited me to share, and I, 95 00:06:09,940 --> 00:06:12,979 S2: I wanted to share the gospel of Jesus Christ and 96 00:06:12,980 --> 00:06:18,020 S2: give hope to these men, not knowing them personally at 97 00:06:18,020 --> 00:06:23,900 S2: this stage. And I, I shared the gospel for a 98 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:28,419 S2: few minutes. And then they started Malachi Dads and our 99 00:06:28,740 --> 00:06:34,659 S2: workbook on on uh, on uh, being a better father. 100 00:06:35,339 --> 00:06:38,460 S2: Heart of a father is called the book is called 101 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:43,580 S2: Bible study is called. And so so they started that 102 00:06:43,779 --> 00:06:49,180 S2: and these 12 men, Chris started sharing the gospel with me. 103 00:06:49,940 --> 00:06:54,279 S2: And and it was a beautiful thing. And then with 104 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,200 S2: the facilitator leading it, not preaching at the guys, but 105 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,840 S2: leading a Bible discussion, they they began as they got 106 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,880 S2: into the scripture to share other verses of the theme 107 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,360 S2: they were talking about that day. They had great peace, 108 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:21,560 S2: they had great joy, they had great hope. And I'm thinking, man, 109 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:27,640 S2: these guys, you know, they smell, they look, they talk 110 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:33,000 S2: like real Christ followers. And that's what I found on 111 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,840 S2: death row. In fact, they don't like that word death row. Chris. 112 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,920 S2: They like to call themselves there in life row there 113 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,240 S2: at Angola State Prison in Louisiana. 114 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:49,720 S1: Are abundant life row, right? Yes, yes. That you know 115 00:07:49,850 --> 00:07:52,850 S1: the one thing about that story? There are several things. 116 00:07:53,410 --> 00:07:56,810 S1: One thing that really strikes me is that it's another 117 00:07:56,810 --> 00:08:00,570 S1: inmate from another place in the in the prison who 118 00:08:00,570 --> 00:08:04,010 S1: is doing the the main part of that ministry, that 119 00:08:04,010 --> 00:08:09,929 S1: God is using him in the lives of these men. Uh, and, 120 00:08:09,930 --> 00:08:12,890 S1: and that probably was something that he wasn't on his 121 00:08:12,890 --> 00:08:15,610 S1: radar screen a few years ago. Right. 122 00:08:16,490 --> 00:08:22,930 S2: Exactly, exactly. He in fact, he's been in Chris, 37 123 00:08:22,930 --> 00:08:28,770 S2: years at Angola, and he is a graduate of New 124 00:08:28,770 --> 00:08:32,929 S2: Orleans Theological Seminary. As you know, they have a fully 125 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:39,610 S2: accredited Bible college in Angola, and he's one of the graduates. 126 00:08:40,330 --> 00:08:46,050 S2: And he did a beautiful job of facilitating God's Word 127 00:08:46,050 --> 00:08:51,310 S2: and discussion format with these 11 other men that were 128 00:08:51,309 --> 00:08:52,070 S2: in the group. 129 00:08:53,150 --> 00:08:56,190 S1: Um, there are a couple. I've mentioned before we went 130 00:08:56,190 --> 00:08:59,230 S1: on here. There's a man named Troy that we talked with, 131 00:08:59,350 --> 00:09:02,309 S1: and he had he had been, uh, the event that 132 00:09:02,309 --> 00:09:05,510 S1: they had with one day with dad, you know, uh, 133 00:09:05,510 --> 00:09:07,790 S1: where the kids get to come in and spend a 134 00:09:07,830 --> 00:09:11,390 S1: day with dad. And there was another man, Ron. And 135 00:09:11,390 --> 00:09:14,030 S1: I'm sure there are others. And the other thing that 136 00:09:14,030 --> 00:09:17,510 S1: I recall from one of those services is that the 137 00:09:17,510 --> 00:09:20,949 S1: men who had been through Malachi Dads all stood up 138 00:09:20,950 --> 00:09:26,110 S1: and recited Psalm one together. That stuck in my soul 139 00:09:26,110 --> 00:09:29,230 S1: and as always. So I want to go deeper into this. 140 00:09:29,230 --> 00:09:32,390 S1: The reason I wanted you to hear from Mike Broyles today, folks, 141 00:09:32,429 --> 00:09:36,070 S1: is God's on the move. He is. He's on the move. 142 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:39,350 S1: If we are open to his movement. And that's what 143 00:09:39,350 --> 00:09:43,390 S1: is going on inside the prison on Life Row, otherwise 144 00:09:43,390 --> 00:09:47,370 S1: known as Death Row, but not only in Louisiana, You'll 145 00:09:47,370 --> 00:09:50,690 S1: hear more about that. He's on the move in your 146 00:09:50,690 --> 00:09:53,450 S1: heart and your life and want to talk with you 147 00:09:53,450 --> 00:10:09,570 S1: about that today at the radio backyard fence (877) 548-3675. God 148 00:10:09,570 --> 00:10:12,530 S1: is on the move. Do you agree with that? I 149 00:10:12,530 --> 00:10:15,810 S1: asked on Facebook. Share the evidence. You see, Craig says 150 00:10:15,809 --> 00:10:19,250 S1: the evidence all over the news. It's all over social media. 151 00:10:19,809 --> 00:10:23,890 S1: The days are rapidly approaching. The days of Noah. Jesus 152 00:10:23,890 --> 00:10:27,570 S1: could return at any moment. Come, Lord Jesus. Do you 153 00:10:27,570 --> 00:10:31,689 S1: agree with Craig? Is there evidence of God at work 154 00:10:31,809 --> 00:10:35,450 S1: in your own heart and life? Maybe in your community? 155 00:10:35,450 --> 00:10:38,569 S1: In your church? What are you seeing? Barbara said. It's 156 00:10:38,850 --> 00:10:42,290 S1: there younger people showing up in church, and we're going 157 00:10:42,330 --> 00:10:45,610 S1: to take you in about 20 minutes to another spot 158 00:10:45,780 --> 00:10:48,140 S1: on the globe that I want to talk about, but 159 00:10:48,179 --> 00:10:50,580 S1: right now we have Mike Broyles. Pastor Mike has been 160 00:10:50,580 --> 00:10:53,100 S1: in ministry for more than 50 years, been married more 161 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:57,300 S1: than 50 years, executive director of a prison ministry called 162 00:10:57,300 --> 00:11:03,100 S1: Lifeline Global Ministries, and author of Only God Transforming One 163 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:08,500 S1: Inmate and Family at a time. He has mentioned Malachi Dads, 164 00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:11,940 S1: a study that they go through that I heard about 165 00:11:11,940 --> 00:11:17,100 S1: at Angola, at the Louisiana State Penitentiary there. So for 166 00:11:17,100 --> 00:11:19,900 S1: those who don't know what it is that those on 167 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:22,819 S1: death row or life row are going through, what is 168 00:11:22,820 --> 00:11:24,740 S1: Malachi dads all about? Mike. 169 00:11:26,740 --> 00:11:31,500 S2: Well, Malachi Dads is for men based on Malachi four 170 00:11:31,540 --> 00:11:36,540 S2: six about fathers returning to their children, children returning to 171 00:11:36,580 --> 00:11:42,980 S2: their to their dads. And basically we're about about introducing 172 00:11:42,980 --> 00:11:48,520 S2: Christ To, uh, inmate men through Malachi, dad, Bible studies, 173 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,760 S2: and then teaching them how to be a godly father 174 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:59,000 S2: and begin to restore their relationship with their children. We 175 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,840 S2: do the same, Chris, with Hannah's gift for the women. 176 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,600 S2: So you, you listeners out there that have interest in 177 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,680 S2: the women and mothers, we do the same thing. But 178 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,200 S2: the context we're talking about is in a male prison 179 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:24,680 S2: called Angola State Prison, Louisiana State Penitentiary. Penitentiary. And so 180 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,959 S2: and so we have four books Bible studies for Malachi dads. 181 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,280 S2: One of the first one is called The Heart of 182 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,400 S2: a father. That's where we figure out how what the 183 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,260 S2: Bible says about being a godly man and then a 184 00:12:43,260 --> 00:12:47,580 S2: godly father. And then our next two books are heart 185 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:50,980 S2: of a heart of a man, part one, and heart 186 00:12:50,980 --> 00:12:56,940 S2: of a man, part two. And and that those two 187 00:12:56,980 --> 00:13:00,860 S2: books were based upon The measure of a man by 188 00:13:00,860 --> 00:13:06,900 S2: doctor Jean Goetz, who graciously wrote these Bible studies to Malachi, 189 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:11,140 S2: dad's Bible studies for us, based upon the measure of 190 00:13:11,420 --> 00:13:14,220 S2: measure of a man. And in the last book for 191 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:20,500 S2: Malachi dads is called Family Restoration. How do you put 192 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:25,340 S2: this together with Scripture out of Jeremiah and about restoring 193 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:29,980 S2: the family while you're incarcerated? So there's a lot of 194 00:13:29,980 --> 00:13:36,220 S2: talk today in prisons about preparing men to and women 195 00:13:36,220 --> 00:13:39,900 S2: to get out, to get jobs, to get their license 196 00:13:40,179 --> 00:13:44,950 S2: and to begin begin to get into the community, but 197 00:13:44,950 --> 00:13:50,630 S2: there's very little help to help them go back into 198 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:56,510 S2: their families and restore their relationship with their children. The 199 00:13:56,510 --> 00:14:04,469 S2: big statistic, Chris, is that 70% of inmate children, approximately 200 00:14:05,190 --> 00:14:10,829 S2: these children, follow their dads or moms back into prison. 201 00:14:11,070 --> 00:14:17,230 S2: So we're about breaking that generational cycle of of incarceration. 202 00:14:17,510 --> 00:14:19,750 S1: And that's one of the questions that the men have. 203 00:14:19,790 --> 00:14:23,390 S1: It's like, well, I can't have contact with my kids 204 00:14:23,390 --> 00:14:27,350 S1: unless it's a special occasion or a visit, you know, 205 00:14:27,390 --> 00:14:31,070 S1: for a little bit of time each week or each month. 206 00:14:31,230 --> 00:14:34,630 S1: For those who are on death row, it's even, you know, 207 00:14:34,670 --> 00:14:38,510 S1: curtailed even more. So how do how do you answer 208 00:14:38,510 --> 00:14:42,250 S1: that question? How can I have a relationship with my 209 00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:46,530 S1: child when I'm here on death or life row? 210 00:14:48,770 --> 00:14:52,010 S2: Yeah, well, we we encourage our, our, our men and 211 00:14:52,010 --> 00:14:56,690 S2: women to write to their children kind of the old 212 00:14:56,690 --> 00:15:04,890 S2: fashioned way and, and begin to reestablish a relationship with 213 00:15:04,890 --> 00:15:08,730 S2: their children. Writing is is a good way to do it. 214 00:15:09,090 --> 00:15:12,850 S2: Second of all, they can call their children. Some of 215 00:15:12,850 --> 00:15:17,530 S2: the men and women call on a regular basis. Uh, 216 00:15:17,530 --> 00:15:21,450 S2: and the third, the third way is, is newer to 217 00:15:21,490 --> 00:15:27,570 S2: the system around America. They can they can do tablets. 218 00:15:27,810 --> 00:15:32,610 S2: Many states in America now have tablets for the men, 219 00:15:33,490 --> 00:15:37,290 S2: and they can kind of email back and forth and 220 00:15:37,610 --> 00:15:40,310 S2: talk to their kids that way at certain times of 221 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:45,430 S2: the day for certain length of time. And so we 222 00:15:45,430 --> 00:15:49,830 S2: feel like, uh, these tablets, they could do education, they 223 00:15:49,830 --> 00:15:53,670 S2: can have fun games, maybe they can watch the Super Bowl. 224 00:15:54,390 --> 00:15:59,790 S2: But most important, from our standpoint, from a Christ honoring organization, 225 00:16:00,230 --> 00:16:05,110 S2: we're about restoring the family. And that tool allows the 226 00:16:05,110 --> 00:16:10,550 S2: inmates to begin that journey more effectively. We find that 227 00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:14,710 S2: is the tablets that men are given while they're in prison, 228 00:16:14,750 --> 00:16:16,270 S2: if they have good behavior. 229 00:16:16,510 --> 00:16:20,550 S1: Yeah. Well, and if the, uh, if someone's listening and say, well, 230 00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:23,790 S1: this is great, you know, that's that's wonderful that these 231 00:16:23,790 --> 00:16:27,070 S1: men are being told about the, the forgiveness that they 232 00:16:27,070 --> 00:16:30,750 S1: can have in God and they can in some ways 233 00:16:30,750 --> 00:16:35,150 S1: move closer to their family, you know, have some reconciliation there. 234 00:16:35,390 --> 00:16:39,160 S1: But this is just one place. This is not just 235 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,520 S1: in Louisiana, though, right? It's expanding. Tell us about that. 236 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,840 S2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I, uh, I personally don't have a 237 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,480 S2: background in prison ministry, as you told your listeners. I've 238 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,080 S2: been pastoring for a long time, but I got into 239 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:05,000 S2: this about 19 years ago, and. And, um, it's a 240 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,120 S2: beautiful thing. And so God has allowed us to develop 241 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,000 S2: this curriculum for men and women who are incarcerated. Hannah's 242 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,000 S2: gifted Malachi dads. It's an English and Spanish. We even 243 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,240 S2: have DVDs that they can they can watch now. And 244 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,200 S2: so these days, um, at this point, we're in approximately 245 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,360 S2: 40 states, uh, where we teach Malachi dads or Hannah's gift. 246 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,460 S2: They go through our curriculum curriculum for the men. Take 247 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:42,660 S2: about almost a year. Some men just do one course, 248 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:46,580 S2: some do all four. And the. And for the women, 249 00:17:46,859 --> 00:17:50,740 S2: it's about eight months long. And they do one course 250 00:17:50,740 --> 00:17:55,580 S2: or three courses. And so the word of mouth and 251 00:17:55,820 --> 00:18:00,900 S2: gets around. And wardens and chaplains have helped us get 252 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:06,180 S2: into a lot of different places. And so Mississippi and 253 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:13,380 S2: and Florida are two other places that were, were in actively. 254 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:18,179 S2: And many other states. I live in California, and yes, 255 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:22,260 S2: we're even in about ten prisons in state prisons in 256 00:18:22,260 --> 00:18:24,859 S2: California at this point. Chris. 257 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:30,300 S1: Wow. And you've been to some 100 prisons around the world. 258 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:36,080 S1: You've seen, uh, people incarcerated in so many different places. 259 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,720 S1: Have you ever seen this openness on death row? And 260 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,800 S1: you mentioned Mississippi and Florida. They are becoming open to 261 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,240 S1: this as well. Have you ever seen that before? 262 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,840 S2: No, sir. And my contacts of friends that worked in 263 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,439 S2: prison ministries for a long time. I've been asking, have 264 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,480 S2: you seen group Bible studies? Uh, in death row or 265 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:09,080 S2: life row? And normally the men and women in death 266 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,520 S2: row are in their cell 23 out of 24 hours. 267 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,360 S2: They get to shower and exercise. And that's really about it. 268 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,669 S2: And so Angola, in many forms over the last 20 269 00:19:23,670 --> 00:19:27,080 S2: or 30 years, have set the pace in so many ways. 270 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,720 S2: And so when we got into Angola death row, I 271 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,250 S2: called my friend who used to be the warden at 272 00:19:35,250 --> 00:19:39,969 S2: Angola State Prison. Now he's the commissioner in Mississippi who 273 00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:45,290 S2: runs the prison prisons of Mississippi. And I told him 274 00:19:45,290 --> 00:19:49,609 S2: what we're doing on death row and in Louisiana, at Angola. 275 00:19:50,330 --> 00:19:53,970 S2: And I said, can we can we can we do this? 276 00:19:53,970 --> 00:19:57,770 S2: Can we bring Malachi dads on death row in Mississippi? 277 00:19:58,170 --> 00:20:01,850 S2: And he he agreed. In fact, next week I will 278 00:20:01,850 --> 00:20:06,410 S2: be training people to teach Malachi dads for the for 279 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:09,770 S2: the 33 men who are on death row. And then 280 00:20:09,770 --> 00:20:13,130 S2: we're going to go to to Florida in mid, in 281 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:18,290 S2: mid February to start death row there. So there's a 282 00:20:18,570 --> 00:20:22,330 S2: there's a new there's a new God on the move 283 00:20:22,330 --> 00:20:27,090 S2: from my opinion in the death row areas. And most 284 00:20:27,090 --> 00:20:30,930 S2: states have death rows. And I'm praying that God will 285 00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:34,510 S2: kick this door open. As we get established in these 286 00:20:34,510 --> 00:20:39,430 S2: three states and the leaders of prisons, maybe our listeners 287 00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:43,389 S2: could help us get to a warden, get to a chaplain, 288 00:20:43,670 --> 00:20:46,470 S2: get to a leader in a prison. So maybe we 289 00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:49,910 S2: could not only go into death row, but take Malachi 290 00:20:49,950 --> 00:20:54,630 S2: dads in other places in the general population of the 291 00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:55,950 S2: prisons in America. 292 00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:58,710 S1: Well, and you said in all three of the states 293 00:20:58,710 --> 00:21:03,830 S1: that you just mentioned, they also have the death penalty 294 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:06,830 S1: executions go on in all three of those states. So 295 00:21:06,830 --> 00:21:11,870 S1: this is this is a a grave situation that you're 296 00:21:11,869 --> 00:21:15,990 S1: in speaking with these men who know that their days 297 00:21:16,030 --> 00:21:18,670 S1: aren't well. All of our days are numbered, but they 298 00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:21,910 S1: they have an execution date, many of them. Right? 299 00:21:23,869 --> 00:21:27,950 S2: Yes. Yeah, they do. Or it's coming or they're in 300 00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:32,010 S2: a legal in the courts figuring it out. And so 301 00:21:32,010 --> 00:21:35,530 S2: they know there's a, there's a, there could be a date. 302 00:21:35,850 --> 00:21:41,050 S2: And so so it's real. We're about bringing hope, the 303 00:21:41,050 --> 00:21:46,330 S2: hope of Christ for eternity to these men, especially now 304 00:21:46,330 --> 00:21:50,490 S2: on death row. And so, yes, there's a sense of 305 00:21:50,490 --> 00:21:55,410 S2: urgency here of getting the good news of Christ to 306 00:21:55,450 --> 00:22:00,530 S2: these men and women in these difficult places called death row. Yeah. 307 00:22:00,890 --> 00:22:03,250 S1: Mike, I want you to answer a question. Mike Broyles 308 00:22:03,250 --> 00:22:07,649 S1: is with us. And the book only God Transforming One 309 00:22:07,650 --> 00:22:10,530 S1: Inmate and Family at a time is our featured resource 310 00:22:10,530 --> 00:22:15,010 S1: at Chris Fabry Live. Um, I want you to speak 311 00:22:15,010 --> 00:22:18,170 S1: to the person who's listening, who says, you know, I 312 00:22:18,210 --> 00:22:22,490 S1: felt like in some ways, I've wanted to do something 313 00:22:22,490 --> 00:22:25,409 S1: like this. I wanted to be to to reach out 314 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:30,419 S1: to those who are behind the prison walls and give them. 315 00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:34,020 S1: You know what? What? I have the transformation that I've found. 316 00:22:34,060 --> 00:22:35,939 S1: I want to do that. Whether it's a man or 317 00:22:35,940 --> 00:22:38,820 S1: a woman. What would you say to that person who's listening? 318 00:22:42,580 --> 00:22:47,620 S2: Well, we we have many volunteers around the world who 319 00:22:47,660 --> 00:22:52,740 S2: help us teach Malachi dads or Hannah's gift. And so 320 00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:58,300 S2: I would I would say, if God's tugging at your heart, please, 321 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:03,060 S2: please give us, uh, send us an email and you 322 00:23:03,060 --> 00:23:09,260 S2: can do that at might be like boy lifeline global 323 00:23:09,260 --> 00:23:14,939 S2: all one word dot might be at Lifeline Global org. 324 00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:20,379 S2: And so if you're calling if you're living in South 325 00:23:20,380 --> 00:23:26,700 S2: Dakota or Iowa or Nevada, you know, we're in many 326 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:30,000 S2: states and we can hook you up with people who 327 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,800 S2: are already doing it, provide some zoom training for you, 328 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,440 S2: and walk you through the process of, of getting, uh, 329 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,040 S2: credibility to go into the prison and begin to share 330 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,360 S2: the gospel. So I would urge you to to please 331 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:55,359 S2: write me personally. I will respond personally. And let's see. Yes, 332 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,080 S2: as Chris has said, the theme God is on the 333 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,760 S2: move and God is on the move. In prisons, especially 334 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,679 S2: around in America and around the world. 335 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,080 S1: Yes. And we have a link if you go to Chris. 336 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,000 S1: Org click through today's information. You'll see Mike, his uh, 337 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,040 S1: the beard that he's had for as long as I've 338 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,640 S1: known you. And don't you dare shave that thing off, 339 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,440 S1: because it's. This is who Mike is. But we've got 340 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,119 S1: a link to lifeline Global.com right there. And then he 341 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:30,620 S1: mentioned his email address. Mike B at lifeline globalcom. And 342 00:24:30,619 --> 00:24:33,500 S1: I guarantee you he will get back to you. Mike. 343 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:36,820 S1: It is very encouraging and I wanted people to hear 344 00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:39,580 S1: your voice and to be able to pray for what 345 00:24:39,580 --> 00:24:43,140 S1: you're doing there at Angola and then in Mississippi and 346 00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:46,460 S1: in Florida as well. Thanks for giving this good report 347 00:24:46,460 --> 00:24:48,220 S1: to us today. God bless you, friend. 348 00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:53,140 S2: Thank you so much. And thank you, listeners for responding. 349 00:24:53,820 --> 00:24:57,100 S1: Go to Chris Faber for this is one of the 350 00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,180 S1: things that happens when you support a program like this. 351 00:25:00,220 --> 00:25:02,300 S1: We can talk about some of the things that God 352 00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:05,820 S1: is doing that you may not have heard about, that 353 00:25:05,859 --> 00:25:09,540 S1: God is on the move in death row in Louisiana 354 00:25:09,540 --> 00:25:12,940 S1: and in Mississippi and in Florida. Find out more about 355 00:25:12,940 --> 00:25:16,820 S1: Mike Broyles at Chris. Org. We've got a link right 356 00:25:16,820 --> 00:25:22,980 S1: there at To lifeline dot. Now, when we come back, 357 00:25:23,180 --> 00:25:27,790 S1: I want you to hear from Sam, who just graduated 358 00:25:27,790 --> 00:25:31,470 S1: from college I think, three years ago, and God has 359 00:25:31,470 --> 00:25:35,669 S1: been tugging on his heart for not only his country, 360 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:40,230 S1: but his continent. And I want you to hear some 361 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:43,670 S1: of the stories that he has about God on the 362 00:25:43,670 --> 00:25:46,910 S1: move in his neck of the woods. I know it's 363 00:25:46,910 --> 00:25:49,109 S1: going to encourage you, and you will hear from him 364 00:25:49,109 --> 00:26:04,670 S1: straight ahead, right here on Moody Radio. God does not 365 00:26:04,670 --> 00:26:09,190 S1: discriminate on the basis of age when he is on 366 00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:14,389 S1: the move or location. Being on death row is probably 367 00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:17,790 S1: the most isolated that you can get, and God is 368 00:26:17,790 --> 00:26:19,550 S1: on the move there. And I wanted you to hear 369 00:26:19,550 --> 00:26:24,050 S1: that today. A little encouragement about what he is doing, 370 00:26:24,170 --> 00:26:27,810 S1: not only behind prison walls. He's on the move in 371 00:26:27,810 --> 00:26:33,330 S1: people's lives, in some desperate situations, in marriages that are struggling. 372 00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:35,770 S1: You may know some of those. You may be in 373 00:26:35,770 --> 00:26:38,570 S1: one of those. In this segment, we're going to look 374 00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:40,090 S1: at him on the move in an area of the 375 00:26:40,090 --> 00:26:43,770 S1: world that used to be vibrant. It used to send 376 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:47,890 S1: missionaries around the globe, but today it feels like it's 377 00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:52,490 S1: more of a mission field. But is that changing? Sam 378 00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:56,730 S1: Cooper spelled with a U, not two O's. Sam Cooper 379 00:26:56,730 --> 00:27:00,170 S1: is a field coordinator with the Revive Europe movement. His 380 00:27:00,170 --> 00:27:04,010 S1: heart is for making Jesus known among the least reached 381 00:27:04,010 --> 00:27:07,609 S1: and catalyzing student mission in Europe and beyond. His role 382 00:27:07,609 --> 00:27:11,969 S1: involves mobilizing students in wholehearted pursuit of Jesus through the 383 00:27:11,970 --> 00:27:16,090 S1: preaching of the word, facilitating in-person and online gatherings, and 384 00:27:16,090 --> 00:27:19,689 S1: pioneering new initiatives within the movement. And I'm not reading that, 385 00:27:20,410 --> 00:27:23,830 S1: but it sounds like I am. Um, he is in 386 00:27:23,869 --> 00:27:27,469 S1: the Chicago area right now. Sam, welcome to the program. 387 00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:28,389 S1: How are you doing today? 388 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:31,790 S3: I'm doing great. It's a joy to be with you, Chris. 389 00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:35,150 S1: You are the first person I've ever had who a 390 00:27:35,150 --> 00:27:38,910 S1: Facebook friend reached out and said, your guest for tomorrow's 391 00:27:38,910 --> 00:27:41,990 S1: program slept on our couch last night. So you're going 392 00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:44,750 S1: all over the place you're staying in, in homes and 393 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:48,430 S1: with people, and you're doing something here in the US. 394 00:27:48,430 --> 00:27:50,110 S1: What is it that you're trying to do? 395 00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:53,670 S3: That's right. I'll give a shout out to the Logans 396 00:27:53,670 --> 00:27:56,709 S3: for their wonderful hospitality last night. And I've been on 397 00:27:56,710 --> 00:28:00,070 S3: a journey around the United States. And for three weeks, 398 00:28:00,070 --> 00:28:04,270 S3: Chris meeting with university students, sharing on campuses about what 399 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:07,510 S3: God is doing in Europe right now, which we are 400 00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:11,270 S3: so excited about, and wanting to communicate that Europe is 401 00:28:11,270 --> 00:28:15,109 S3: not post-Christian, but pre revival. And there's amazing stories of 402 00:28:15,109 --> 00:28:15,949 S3: God on the move. 403 00:28:16,150 --> 00:28:18,469 S1: I love that when I read that on the website 404 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:20,790 S1: and I heard you on, on YouTube say that we're 405 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,159 S1: not post-Christian, we're pre revival that. But but you understand 406 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,040 S1: why people would say post-Christian when you walk into a 407 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,240 S1: beautiful church in Europe and it is it it's, you know, 408 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,280 S1: it feels quote unquote dead. You say God is changing that. 409 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,080 S3: Absolutely. I mean, we're under no illusion, Chris. You know, 410 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,200 S3: when you look at Europe, you just need to look 411 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,000 S3: at the statistics to see that for many years, Europe. And, 412 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,520 S3: you know, we've been living in this secular narrative. We 413 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,280 S3: have some of the highest rates of suicide, depression, anxiety 414 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,600 S3: among the young anywhere in the world. And it has 415 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,560 S3: been tough soil for the gospel. And but when we 416 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,160 S3: talk about Europe being pre revival, one of the stories 417 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,959 S3: in Scripture we really resonate with is the story at 418 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,560 S3: the beginning of the Book of Numbers. You might remember 419 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,080 S3: the Israelites. They go out to scout the Promised Land 420 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,120 S3: and the majority of the spies. They come back and 421 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,040 S3: they bring a bad report. You know, they say the 422 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,780 S3: giants in the land are too big. They're too scary. 423 00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:22,580 S3: We couldn't possibly take it. And, you know, many people 424 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,180 S3: have looked at Europe in the same way. And yet 425 00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:28,020 S3: what we're seeing in this moment is there's a growing 426 00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:31,620 S3: remnant bringing the two spy report, that of Joshua and Caleb, 427 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:35,420 S3: who Scripture says they saw the same giants, the same land, 428 00:29:35,420 --> 00:29:37,580 S3: but they had a different spirit. And they said, we 429 00:29:37,580 --> 00:29:42,260 S3: can take the land. And there's just a growing anticipation 430 00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:45,340 S3: and that Europe is not too far gone, that in 431 00:29:45,340 --> 00:29:48,540 S3: this context of great crisis, God is willing to bring 432 00:29:48,540 --> 00:29:50,300 S3: renewal in our time and in our day. 433 00:29:50,980 --> 00:29:53,780 S1: I really believe what I said about the age thing, 434 00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:56,660 S1: because Mike Broyles has been at this for 55 years, 435 00:29:56,660 --> 00:30:01,060 S1: more than 50 years. You have been in the post 436 00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:03,780 S1: that you're in. You graduated from college, I think, a 437 00:30:03,780 --> 00:30:05,860 S1: little more than three years ago. Is that right? 438 00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:08,860 S3: That's right. Three and a half years ago. 439 00:30:09,260 --> 00:30:13,219 S1: So there is no God does not discriminate on the 440 00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:17,540 S1: basis of age. Young people, older people though, that's who 441 00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:21,520 S1: you're going for. You're going for the young people in Europe. 442 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,240 S1: Tell me what you're seeing, what you're hearing from them 443 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,000 S1: as you reach out to them. 444 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,760 S3: Absolutely. I mean, one of the scriptures that's been an 445 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,200 S3: anchoring verse in my life, Chris, just to hammer home 446 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,120 S3: what you shared is one Timothy four verse 12, where 447 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,800 S3: Paul says to Timothy, do not let anyone look down 448 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,320 S3: on you because you are young, but instead set an 449 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,120 S3: example for the believers in love and faith and speech 450 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,080 S3: and conduct and impurity. I had a senior leader share 451 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920 S3: that with me when I was 16 years old, and 452 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,560 S3: it marked my life and my plan, as you mentioned earlier, 453 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,440 S3: was to graduate as a civil engineer, had a plan 454 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,280 S3: to head to a different part of the world into 455 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,760 S3: the mission field, but just got caught up in this 456 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,680 S3: bigger story of what God has been unfolding across Europe 457 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,320 S3: and what we're seeing among young people at the moment. 458 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,160 S3: And I think part of it is fueled by the 459 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,320 S3: reality of where Europe has been for many years. There 460 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,280 S3: is just this growing restlessness, a holy discontent among the 461 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,690 S3: young that is saying there must be more to my 462 00:31:17,690 --> 00:31:20,890 S3: life of faith than what I'm currently experiencing. And it 463 00:31:20,890 --> 00:31:24,290 S3: is that shared hunger, which we're seeing is driving people 464 00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:28,770 S3: to prayer, rallying communities with a shared desire, and to 465 00:31:28,810 --> 00:31:30,610 S3: see God move in our hearts and for it to 466 00:31:30,650 --> 00:31:32,050 S3: overflow into our cities. 467 00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:35,170 S1: I want you to go to the micro, then, you know, 468 00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:38,010 S1: to a small example of this, and then we'll go 469 00:31:38,010 --> 00:31:41,850 S1: to the macro. Uh, but you told a story in 470 00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:45,530 S1: one of the videos that I saw about you're from Hull, 471 00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:47,690 S1: and you went back home and you went to the 472 00:31:47,690 --> 00:31:51,450 S1: place where you always got your hair cut, and a 473 00:31:51,930 --> 00:31:54,410 S1: lady was cutting your hair. Tell that story. 474 00:31:55,570 --> 00:31:58,370 S3: For sure. I mean, for me, this story just encapsulated 475 00:31:58,370 --> 00:32:01,570 S3: what is happening, you know, on a macro level and 476 00:32:01,570 --> 00:32:04,209 S3: across Europe right now. So I went back to the 477 00:32:04,210 --> 00:32:06,610 S3: city where I grew up for 18 years, and the 478 00:32:06,610 --> 00:32:09,290 S3: city of Hull, which most people haven't heard of, but 479 00:32:09,290 --> 00:32:13,890 S3: it was the birthplace of William Wilberforce, the slave trade abolitionist. And, 480 00:32:13,930 --> 00:32:16,430 S3: you know, I went home kind of in this context. 481 00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:18,270 S3: I'm sure some of the listeners have heard of the 482 00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:21,670 S3: reports of the Quiet Revival, and that has come from 483 00:32:21,670 --> 00:32:25,830 S3: research with the Bible Society in the UK, highlighting spiritual 484 00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:28,950 S3: openness in our moment. And so I went home to my, 485 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:32,510 S3: my old barber shop and the lady who cut my hair. 486 00:32:32,510 --> 00:32:36,190 S3: I sit down and the first question she asked me is, Sam, 487 00:32:36,670 --> 00:32:39,110 S3: are you still involved with that church stuff you do? 488 00:32:39,510 --> 00:32:41,950 S3: And I said, yes. And she said, well, I've been 489 00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:45,430 S3: on a bit of a spiritual search recently, compelled by 490 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:47,310 S3: some of the things I've been seeing in the news. 491 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:50,190 S3: And I was like, tell me more. And she said, well, 492 00:32:50,190 --> 00:32:53,910 S3: I've been watching YouTube videos, and I've learned that Jesus 493 00:32:53,910 --> 00:32:56,030 S3: died on the cross for my sins, and that I 494 00:32:56,030 --> 00:32:59,110 S3: can be forgiven if I trust in him. And Chris, 495 00:32:59,110 --> 00:33:02,510 S3: I'm like, she's preaching the gospel to me. And, um, 496 00:33:02,790 --> 00:33:06,590 S3: it then got really encouraging because when I went to pay, 497 00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:08,390 S3: I asked her if I could pray for her. I 498 00:33:08,390 --> 00:33:11,430 S3: asked if anyone had prayed for her before, and she said, well, 499 00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:15,090 S3: you prayed for me five years ago, and I was 500 00:33:15,090 --> 00:33:19,290 S3: floored because this woman, who probably has 50 plus conversations 501 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:22,530 S3: a day cutting heads of hair, remembered a moment that 502 00:33:22,530 --> 00:33:26,250 S3: I'd forgotten of praying for her five years previously. And 503 00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:29,210 S3: so it was a great encouragement of the seeds that 504 00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:31,610 S3: have been sown over many years. The things that we 505 00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:35,170 S3: often neglect, the small, everyday moments thinking Europe. Right now, 506 00:33:35,170 --> 00:33:37,290 S3: we're beginning to see the fruit of those seeds that 507 00:33:37,290 --> 00:33:40,810 S3: were sown and catalyzed by what God is doing more 508 00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:42,010 S3: widely in Europe. 509 00:33:42,490 --> 00:33:46,370 S1: And you cannot. You mentioned prayer, then, that you prayed 510 00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:52,570 S1: for her. You cannot separate God on the move from prayer, 511 00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:59,850 S1: from people interceding for others or what you call travailing prayer. Right? 512 00:34:01,090 --> 00:34:04,850 S3: Absolutely. I mean, when we look at the narrative of Scripture, 513 00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:09,170 S3: it's so clear that God's chosen vessel for revival, for 514 00:34:09,170 --> 00:34:12,489 S3: awakening in the culture is people. And two Timothy two 515 00:34:12,620 --> 00:34:16,260 S3: verses 20 to 22. It talks about when we, um, 516 00:34:16,580 --> 00:34:19,700 S3: when we consecrate ourselves, when we offer our lives before 517 00:34:19,700 --> 00:34:23,460 S3: the Lord. We can be instruments for special purposes, set 518 00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:26,660 S3: apart for what God wants to do. And ultimately, I 519 00:34:26,660 --> 00:34:29,339 S3: think that offering before the Lord has to begin in 520 00:34:29,340 --> 00:34:32,339 S3: the place of prayer. Um, for many years, I believe 521 00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:34,580 S3: what we're beginning to see now is the fruit of 522 00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:39,980 S3: years of people who have sown in tears over Europe. Um, and, 523 00:34:40,020 --> 00:34:42,540 S3: you know, I count myself and a lot of my peers, 524 00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:45,780 S3: we feel like the 11th hour workers in this moment, 525 00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:48,259 S3: you know, who are just getting to walk in the 526 00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:51,660 S3: fruit of years of prayer. Um, but ultimately, you know, 527 00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:53,540 S3: when I think about the work we're called to do, 528 00:34:54,140 --> 00:34:57,420 S3: I think about the moment when, um, when someone once 529 00:34:57,460 --> 00:35:00,620 S3: approached William Booth, the Salvation Army leader, and they were saying, hey, 530 00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:04,060 S3: we've tried all these things, but I'm not seeing much fruit. 531 00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:07,660 S3: And William Booth's response was, have you tried tears? And 532 00:35:07,660 --> 00:35:10,460 S3: so when we talk about Travailing prayer for Europe and 533 00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:14,040 S3: this manner of prayer we're seeing expressed all over Europe 534 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,360 S3: among the young and the old, right now. It is 535 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,560 S3: the desperate prayer that we read about in Galatians two, 536 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,760 S3: where Paul talks about groaning in the pains of childbirth, 537 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,600 S3: that Christ will be formed in the church. And it's 538 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,360 S3: the prayer that arises when we realize what we're asking 539 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,000 S3: God to do is beyond what we are capable to 540 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,480 S3: do in our own strength. 541 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,040 S1: That's Sam Cooper, and if you go to Chris, we 542 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,359 S1: have a link. You'll see his picture right there. But 543 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,600 S1: we've got a link to revive Europe. He's filled field 544 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,759 S1: coordinator with the Revive Europe movement here in the States 545 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,720 S1: for three weeks, traveling around talking to young people, getting 546 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,480 S1: them excited about what is God is on the move 547 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,000 S1: in Europe and doing their. There's more with Sam straight 548 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:11,140 S1: ahead on Moody Radio. This is Chris Fabry live on 549 00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:13,779 S1: Moody Radio. We're talking about God on the move. Tomorrow 550 00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:16,980 S1: on the program, on the anniversary of the Roe versus 551 00:36:17,020 --> 00:36:20,500 S1: Wade decision back in 1973. I want you to hear 552 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:24,420 S1: Kristen's story. Kristen's from Canada, and she's got a story 553 00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:28,660 S1: about her unborn twins and what a doctor told her 554 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:31,940 S1: that she needed and her husband that they needed to do. 555 00:36:32,219 --> 00:36:34,780 S1: I think it's an appropriate story to talk about tomorrow, 556 00:36:34,780 --> 00:36:38,620 S1: and I hope you'll join us then. Sam Cooper. Cooper 557 00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:43,060 S1: is with us today. He is with the Revive Europe movement, 558 00:36:43,460 --> 00:36:46,660 S1: and he says that Europe is not post-Christian. It is 559 00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:50,220 S1: pre revival. And he's telling us more about that. Um, 560 00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:53,259 S1: go to the website, click through today's information. You can 561 00:36:53,260 --> 00:36:58,980 S1: link to his website at Chris. So real quickly, Sam, 562 00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:02,219 S1: walk me through. How did God reach you? Did you 563 00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:04,299 S1: grow up in a Christian home? Have you always been 564 00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:06,820 S1: a Christian? What happened in your heart and life? 565 00:37:07,790 --> 00:37:10,670 S3: Totally. So I was really blessed to be raised by 566 00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:13,029 S3: a family who know and love Jesus, and even going 567 00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:17,069 S3: back generations. My great grandfather was a preacher in the 568 00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:20,509 S3: Methodist Church, a circuit preacher, and so that has always 569 00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:23,190 S3: been a huge blessing and encouragement. Um, but, you know, 570 00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:26,589 S3: as a teenager, I found myself kind of living what 571 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:28,430 S3: felt like a double life. There was a part of 572 00:37:28,430 --> 00:37:31,270 S3: me that was going along to our church youth group, 573 00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:35,069 S3: you know, growing in faith. But then being honest, I 574 00:37:35,110 --> 00:37:37,230 S3: didn't really want to share my faith with my friends 575 00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:39,190 S3: at school. There was this other part of my life 576 00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:41,950 S3: that was so caught up in what people thought about me, 577 00:37:41,950 --> 00:37:46,630 S3: and achieving highly and struggling in a number of different ways. 578 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:49,270 S3: And I remember when I was 16, I was reading 579 00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:52,669 S3: through the book of revelation, and, and there's a part 580 00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:54,710 S3: where Jesus says to the church that, you know, I 581 00:37:54,830 --> 00:37:56,950 S3: don't want you to be lukewarm. I'd rather you be 582 00:37:56,950 --> 00:38:00,630 S3: hot or cold. And I just knew in my spirit 583 00:38:00,630 --> 00:38:03,790 S3: as I as I read that scripture that the two 584 00:38:03,790 --> 00:38:06,230 S3: parts of my life, they just couldn't kind of keep 585 00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:09,770 S3: going together and it would eventually tear me apart. And 586 00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:12,690 S3: I looked at my life, age 16, and I thought, 587 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:15,090 S3: all of these other things have let me down. You know, 588 00:38:15,170 --> 00:38:18,569 S3: pursuing academic achievement, uh, kind of putting my worth in 589 00:38:18,570 --> 00:38:20,890 S3: what others think about me. Um, but my faith in 590 00:38:20,890 --> 00:38:23,290 S3: Christ has never let me down. And so it was 591 00:38:23,290 --> 00:38:25,930 S3: age 16. I decided to give him my whole life 592 00:38:26,130 --> 00:38:29,410 S3: and got baptized. And obviously not everything changed in an instant. 593 00:38:29,410 --> 00:38:32,970 S3: But it was a marking moment of saying yes to Jesus. Um, 594 00:38:32,969 --> 00:38:36,490 S3: that ultimately set me on a trajectory to pursue him 595 00:38:36,489 --> 00:38:37,690 S3: at university. 596 00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:43,250 S1: And you got a civil engineering degree. So my guess 597 00:38:43,290 --> 00:38:46,330 S1: is that your family and friends all thought that you 598 00:38:46,330 --> 00:38:48,609 S1: would go into, you know, a kind of a high 599 00:38:48,650 --> 00:38:55,170 S1: paying job, but you've gone into, uh, revival ministry. So 600 00:38:55,410 --> 00:38:56,450 S1: how did that happen? 601 00:38:58,250 --> 00:39:00,290 S3: It's true. I mean, my family joked that I went 602 00:39:00,290 --> 00:39:04,770 S3: from building physical bridges to spiritual bridges, which I really like, but, um, 603 00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:07,629 S3: so the story goes. I was in my second year 604 00:39:07,630 --> 00:39:10,150 S3: of university, and I heard that there was going to 605 00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:14,510 S3: be this gathering called Revive Europe of about 3000 students 606 00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:17,270 S3: from all over the continent, praying for God to move 607 00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:19,630 S3: in our time and in our day. So I drag 608 00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:21,390 S3: my best friend along. We got on a flight to 609 00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:24,750 S3: Germany and we met with these students, and it felt 610 00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:27,109 S3: like something out of the book of revelation, hearing all 611 00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:30,830 S3: these languages in one place. And the conference was wonderful, 612 00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:33,950 S3: but it was actually the stories afterwards that were shocking 613 00:39:33,950 --> 00:39:37,670 S3: because we began to hear stories of God starting little 614 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:40,950 S3: fires all over Europe. As someone who's now become a 615 00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:44,310 S3: part of my team, he was a student minister in Berlin. 616 00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:47,270 S3: I think this just story highlights what God was doing 617 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:50,629 S3: at the time. He'd been involved in mission work in 618 00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:54,390 S3: Germany for several years, and he was feeling pretty discouraged 619 00:39:54,670 --> 00:39:56,989 S3: at what he was seeing. And on the last night 620 00:39:56,989 --> 00:39:59,430 S3: of the gathering, he has a dream which was not 621 00:39:59,430 --> 00:40:02,430 S3: usual for him. But he heard the Lord say, if 622 00:40:02,469 --> 00:40:05,000 S3: you worship on the train back to Berlin like you've 623 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,640 S3: done here. I'll bring the fire with you. And he 624 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,120 S3: told no one this dream, Chris. And the next day 625 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,240 S3: they get on the train and one of his students 626 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,680 S3: says to him, I think we should start singing amazing Grace. 627 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,880 S3: And you can imagine his surprise. And so this student 628 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,040 S3: gets her guitar and begins to play. And some people 629 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,080 S3: on the train are kind of like, what's going on? 630 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,160 S3: Some people are putting their headphones on. But he said 631 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,000 S3: when they began to sing, this boldness came over the 632 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,160 S3: students and they began to go up and down the train, 633 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,160 S3: sharing their faith with anyone that would listen. And they 634 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,080 S3: got back to Berlin and there was a hunger to 635 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,759 S3: meet like never before. And the students wanted to meet 636 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,799 S3: as often as they could, and they've been meeting to 637 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,440 S3: pray every Friday for revival for the last five years. 638 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,080 S3: And so, you know, I was kind of getting to 639 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,960 S3: hear all these stories. And by the time I graduated, I, 640 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,240 S3: as you mentioned, was offered quite a high paying engineering job. 641 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,000 S3: But I just felt this deep stirring in my spirit 642 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,400 S3: that God was about to do something big in Europe. 643 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,380 S3: And I knew I had to say yes to be 644 00:41:03,380 --> 00:41:05,420 S3: a part of it. And that was three and a 645 00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:07,820 S3: half years ago, and it's been quite a journey since. 646 00:41:08,140 --> 00:41:09,940 S4: So you're what are the students. 647 00:41:09,940 --> 00:41:12,939 S1: That you're seeing in the States? What are they saying? 648 00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:18,380 S1: Because you knew about what happened in Kentucky at Asbury. You've, uh, 649 00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:21,780 S1: kept up with that? Uh, what are the students here 650 00:41:21,780 --> 00:41:22,660 S1: saying to you? 651 00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:26,100 S3: It's a great question. I mean, we see a lot 652 00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:29,020 S3: of commonality. And so I was at Asbury just last 653 00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:32,219 S3: week with some friends there. And, um, I think a 654 00:41:32,219 --> 00:41:36,460 S3: few common seeing is that we're seeing a desire for consecration, 655 00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:38,299 S3: you know, to live a life that is set apart 656 00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:41,500 S3: for the Lord. One of my favorite psalms is Psalm 24, 657 00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:44,660 S3: where it talks about this invitation up the mountain. Who 658 00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:47,140 S3: may ascend the hill of the Lord? Who may stand 659 00:41:47,140 --> 00:41:49,740 S3: in his holy place, the one who has clean hands 660 00:41:49,739 --> 00:41:52,620 S3: and a pure heart? And the psalmist David goes on 661 00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:55,660 S3: to say, such is the generation of those who seek him. 662 00:41:55,940 --> 00:41:58,819 S3: So there's an invitation to be set apart for God's 663 00:41:58,820 --> 00:42:02,799 S3: plans and purposes that many are responding to, and that 664 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,120 S3: step of yes will look different for all of us. 665 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,239 S3: You know, I don't think it necessarily means that we 666 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,440 S3: all lay down our career necessarily, but are we willing 667 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,680 S3: to to hand over the reins of our life to Jesus? 668 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,160 S3: And another thing we're seeing is a deep desire for 669 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,359 S3: authentic friendship. And some of our friends at Asbury have 670 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,680 S3: this expression that revival moves at the pace of friendship, 671 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,800 S3: and our conviction is that if this is not just 672 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600 S3: to be something that we get excited about at an 673 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,680 S3: event or over a few years, but if this is 674 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,359 S3: to be a lifetime of pursuing Jesus and seeing a 675 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,080 S3: reformation of the culture in the continent of Europe and 676 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,080 S3: across the West, and that what is going to sustain 677 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,479 S3: us for the long haul is deep, committed friendship with 678 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,120 S3: our peers. And so that's been a big part of 679 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,120 S3: our goal. And what I love about traveling around and 680 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,840 S3: different cities and countries is we get to build friendships 681 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,529 S3: and proximity, and this feels really critical to what we're 682 00:43:00,530 --> 00:43:02,650 S3: longing to see God do in our time and in 683 00:43:02,650 --> 00:43:03,090 S3: our day. 684 00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:08,049 S1: We are so, um, numbers conscious. And I just want 685 00:43:08,090 --> 00:43:11,010 S1: to because I'm intuiting from what you've said here and 686 00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:14,610 S1: from some of the things you've said on your YouTube videos, 687 00:43:15,010 --> 00:43:18,610 S1: that success. Evidence of success or God on the move 688 00:43:19,010 --> 00:43:23,049 S1: is not simply numbers, though. Wonderful. If a lot of 689 00:43:23,050 --> 00:43:26,529 S1: people you know are out for the meetings and for 690 00:43:26,530 --> 00:43:31,969 S1: or experience of baptisms other things, but that depth is 691 00:43:31,969 --> 00:43:35,609 S1: as important as the numbers. Is that true? Is that 692 00:43:35,650 --> 00:43:36,450 S1: what you're saying? 693 00:43:37,810 --> 00:43:41,569 S3: Absolutely. Um, so my mentor, I remember her saying to 694 00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:44,570 S3: me that she said, Sam, the Lord can do more 695 00:43:44,570 --> 00:43:48,450 S3: through one person who is fully given to him than 696 00:43:48,450 --> 00:43:52,450 S3: a hundred people who are only 50% in. And I mean, 697 00:43:52,489 --> 00:43:54,609 S3: we just need to look at church history to to 698 00:43:54,650 --> 00:43:58,410 S3: realize that God doesn't need a big group of people necessarily, 699 00:43:58,410 --> 00:44:01,510 S3: but he does need a committed, a surrendered group of people. 700 00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:05,029 S3: I think about the Holy club that John Wesley and 701 00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:07,109 S3: his brother Charles were part of at the University of 702 00:44:07,110 --> 00:44:09,910 S3: Oxford in my country. And, you know, guys in their 703 00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:14,310 S3: early 20s, and it was a small group who covenanted 704 00:44:14,310 --> 00:44:19,110 S3: to seek the Lord together, that brought about widespread change, 705 00:44:19,230 --> 00:44:22,149 S3: that impacted my nation and changed it forever, and has 706 00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:25,190 S3: also impacted the United States as well. And so it 707 00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:28,110 S3: is our deep conviction, as you shared, that God doesn't 708 00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:31,230 S3: necessarily need the masses, but what he is looking for 709 00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:34,430 S3: is a few people whose hearts are fully given to him. 710 00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:38,390 S3: And recognizing that revival has to start in our hearts 711 00:44:38,430 --> 00:44:40,270 S3: before it overflows to the masses. 712 00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:44,910 S1: And that goes for every person listening here today. Okay. 713 00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:48,390 S1: In our remaining minute or two, how can we pray? 714 00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:50,430 S1: What what do you suggest we pray for? 715 00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:55,549 S3: It's such a good question. Um, I think two things 716 00:44:55,550 --> 00:44:58,770 S3: that are on our heart. Firstly, you can pray for 717 00:44:59,010 --> 00:45:03,050 S3: intergenerational friendships in Europe as you just shared. Chris. We're 718 00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:05,569 S3: convinced that what God is doing in this moment is 719 00:45:05,570 --> 00:45:08,770 S3: not just about Gen Z. Obviously, we're seeing a real 720 00:45:08,770 --> 00:45:12,050 S3: drive and a surge in spiritual openness among the young, 721 00:45:12,489 --> 00:45:16,410 S3: but I'm deeply convinced that, um, that we cannot do 722 00:45:16,410 --> 00:45:19,290 S3: this on our own and that we need spiritual fathers 723 00:45:19,290 --> 00:45:21,770 S3: and mothers who will be a shade over the boldness 724 00:45:21,770 --> 00:45:24,969 S3: of our generation and who will intercede for our healing. 725 00:45:25,130 --> 00:45:28,370 S3: And so I do want to encourage listeners out there 726 00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:31,529 S3: as well to, uh, to be bold, to make the 727 00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:34,250 S3: first move and to think about how can they encourage 728 00:45:34,250 --> 00:45:36,930 S3: a young person. How can they champion what God is 729 00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:40,770 S3: doing and also be there to share openly and honestly 730 00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:43,690 S3: about their own walk of faith? Um, that is a 731 00:45:43,690 --> 00:45:46,009 S3: big point of prayer for us in Europe that we're 732 00:45:46,050 --> 00:45:47,489 S3: we're seeking for at the moment. 733 00:45:48,489 --> 00:45:52,009 S1: It is so encouraging to hear your voice, uh, to 734 00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:55,450 S1: see your face, to go to the website, uh, scroll 735 00:45:55,450 --> 00:45:59,940 S1: down to see this young Sam. Young Sam. That is, uh, 736 00:45:59,940 --> 00:46:04,100 S1: that is doing what God has called him to do. And, Sam, 737 00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:06,420 S1: I can't tell you. Uh, I can't thank you enough 738 00:46:06,420 --> 00:46:09,500 S1: for what you've told us here today. We've also heard 739 00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:12,299 S1: about God on the move in death row. God on 740 00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:14,820 S1: the move in Europe. Now, how about you? Are you 741 00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:18,339 S1: open to him doing the same thing that Sam is 742 00:46:18,340 --> 00:46:21,980 S1: talking about here? For the young people and older people 743 00:46:21,980 --> 00:46:26,420 S1: in Europe? If you go to Chris Livorno, scroll down. 744 00:46:26,420 --> 00:46:29,700 S1: You'll see how to link through today's information. You'll find 745 00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:34,580 S1: out about Sam Cooper, who is with Revive Europe. And 746 00:46:34,580 --> 00:46:37,219 S1: we've got a link to that right there, as well 747 00:46:37,219 --> 00:46:40,819 S1: as a link to Mike Broyles and his ministry. God 748 00:46:40,820 --> 00:46:43,580 S1: bless you, friend. God's on the move. Chris Fabry lives 749 00:46:43,580 --> 00:46:47,340 S1: production of Moody Radio, a ministry of Moody Bible Institute.