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S3: Good morning. This is Carl and crew. I'm Ali. Do

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S3: you still remember? If you're married, do you remember the

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S2: Yes. So we had a few songs. One of them

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S3: I might I remember having a a dear friend of

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S3: It's been almost. Believe it or not, this year, my

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S3: Well, it's National Marriage Week, and we have a special

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S3: It's I that's my favorite Winter Olympic sport by far.

447
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,680
S3: The beauty, the sheer beauty, the artistry, the creativity.

448
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,320
S7: How about the sliders? That's what they call them. Sliders.

449
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,800
S2: Uh, for. I'm thinking either bobsledding or. What's the other one?

450
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,879
S2: Where they take that little thing and they sweep the

451
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,760
S2: little rocket?

452
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,080
S7: That should be, you know, no one should be allowed

453
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,440
S7: to get on this little thing.

454
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,080
S2: Bobsledding.

455
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,080
S7: What are we talking about? The bobsled. It's the. What's

456
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,439
S7: it called? The little gizmo hoop. One guy, you lay

457
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,160
S7: your body down on the sucker like luge.

458
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,679
S2: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Luge.

459
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,200
S7: Luge. Thank you. Ali.

460
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,399
S2: That thing is insane.

461
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,680
S7: Oh, that thing's insane. These guys get going 80 miles

462
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,000
S7: an hour. Speaking of 80 miles an hour, women's downhill.

463
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,600
S7: Saw some of that, too, with my virus laying here

464
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:28,220
S7: at home, and. Oh my goodness. I mean, they are

465
00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:33,260
S7: 80 miles an hour women going downhill.

466
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:35,420
S2: I might turn on some Winter Olympics. Okay, so.

467
00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:39,100
S3: Did you did you have any spiritual parallels hit you

468
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:41,420
S3: as you was your I mean, your pastor. So you're

469
00:22:41,420 --> 00:22:44,500
S3: always thinking in terms. Did you as you're watching the Olympics,

470
00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:46,820
S3: the stories, the sports, anything hit you as far as

471
00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:47,980
S3: the spiritual parallel?

472
00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:56,020
S7: Some things it's wise to not do. The fear of

473
00:22:56,020 --> 00:22:59,020
S7: the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Maybe you should

474
00:22:59,020 --> 00:23:02,500
S7: fear God before you say, doink, I'm going to go

475
00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:05,060
S7: off this hill. It reminds me. So I had two

476
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:09,500
S7: buddies in Alaska. That's where I was raised. And, uh,

477
00:23:09,580 --> 00:23:13,100
S7: Jim Landis and Hans Arnett and these guys were on

478
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:15,820
S7: the Lake Placid. I know you don't know anything about that.

479
00:23:15,820 --> 00:23:18,100
S7: Winter games, young Thunder. You weren't even born.

480
00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:18,980
S2: I certainly don't.

481
00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:22,340
S7: Uh, but Lake, Lake Placid winter games, they were. They

482
00:23:22,340 --> 00:23:25,570
S7: didn't make the team, but they were both alternates and

483
00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:28,369
S7: my buddy Jim came to class one day. I'll never

484
00:23:28,369 --> 00:23:31,090
S7: forget it, man. We're 16 years old. I go, how's

485
00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:33,410
S7: it going, Jim? I'm so bummed out. I said, what's

486
00:23:33,410 --> 00:23:37,409
S7: going on? Oh, man. Karl, my parents won't let me

487
00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:41,410
S7: get a driver's license. And they said, ah, sorry. He goes, man,

488
00:23:41,410 --> 00:23:44,570
S7: what's crazy is they they sit there and they cheer

489
00:23:44,609 --> 00:23:46,890
S7: me on when I'm skiing the downhill. And I'm going

490
00:23:46,930 --> 00:23:48,090
S7: 80 miles an hour.

491
00:23:50,050 --> 00:23:50,689
S3: Oh, wow.

492
00:23:50,970 --> 00:23:53,129
S7: But they won't let me get a driver's license. They

493
00:23:53,130 --> 00:23:54,330
S7: said it's too dangerous.

494
00:23:54,450 --> 00:23:55,290
S2: Too dangerous?

495
00:23:56,010 --> 00:23:56,930
S3: They trust you more.

496
00:23:56,970 --> 00:23:57,410
S2: Okay.

497
00:23:59,050 --> 00:23:59,770
S9: Isn't that crazy?

498
00:23:59,810 --> 00:24:00,770
S2: That is crazy.

499
00:24:00,970 --> 00:24:03,730
S7: Oh, but anyway, I think we owe it to him.

500
00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:07,210
S7: My brides listening, I'm sure right now. But we owe

501
00:24:07,210 --> 00:24:10,050
S7: it to him. If they're putting in that much time,

502
00:24:10,050 --> 00:24:12,210
S7: we owe it not to the curling guys. I don't

503
00:24:12,210 --> 00:24:17,889
S7: think we owe it to the curling guys. Is that

504
00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:21,370
S7: being judgmental? I don't know, I just when I saw

505
00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:25,270
S7: Snoop Dogg out learning how to to do that, I thought, nah. Oh,

506
00:24:25,310 --> 00:24:29,310
S7: we're okay. Yeah. We're okay. Uh, and then I did

507
00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:31,750
S7: see a little clip of Snoop Dogg getting learning how

508
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:35,350
S7: to downhill ski. Oh, just flat out hilarious, man. The

509
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:38,229
S7: guy was absolutely paralyzed with fear getting taught how to

510
00:24:38,270 --> 00:24:38,990
S7: downhill skiing.

511
00:24:39,030 --> 00:24:42,550
S3: I can imagine. Yeah. That'd be. I've never been skiing. No,

512
00:24:42,550 --> 00:24:44,270
S3: and I don't really have. No.

513
00:24:44,790 --> 00:24:45,870
S10: You'd be good at it.

514
00:24:45,910 --> 00:24:48,550
S3: Ah. Based on what would you say that.

515
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:49,510
S2: Based on, based on.

516
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:49,670
S7: The.

517
00:24:49,670 --> 00:24:50,430
S2: Fact that you.

518
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:53,070
S7: Played competitive volleyball.

519
00:24:53,270 --> 00:24:54,629
S3: There's no parallel.

520
00:24:54,869 --> 00:24:57,710
S7: Well, yes, there's a little bit of athleticism there.

521
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:58,070
S3: I mean.

522
00:24:58,109 --> 00:24:59,550
S7: I'm I'm cheering for you.

523
00:24:59,910 --> 00:25:02,750
S3: I know, I just it's I don't I've never been

524
00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:06,830
S3: known for like high levels of coordination. That's just it

525
00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:07,630
S3: feels like.

526
00:25:07,670 --> 00:25:12,510
S7: I've never been known for high levels of coordination.

527
00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:14,949
S3: Well, I just and my parents would always tell me

528
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:17,709
S3: because I was a pretty clumsy. And my parents would

529
00:25:17,710 --> 00:25:20,290
S3: always say, it's okay, you're adjusting to your height. And

530
00:25:20,290 --> 00:25:22,450
S3: then I was like, mom, I haven't grown in like

531
00:25:22,450 --> 00:25:24,330
S3: five years now. Like, I think we got to come

532
00:25:24,330 --> 00:25:27,409
S3: up with a better excuse. Like, I got taller.

533
00:25:27,730 --> 00:25:28,450
S2: It takes a while.

534
00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:31,690
S3: It never was. Just never. Really.

535
00:25:33,730 --> 00:25:34,370
S2: That's so good.

536
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:37,490
S7: All right, I got a question for you. You don't

537
00:25:37,490 --> 00:25:39,170
S7: have to answer it just yet. I want you to

538
00:25:39,210 --> 00:25:42,490
S7: cogitate on this one a second team. What's the craziest

539
00:25:42,490 --> 00:25:46,810
S7: dream you've ever had recently? Because there's a gazillion of them.

540
00:25:47,290 --> 00:25:50,170
S7: Craziest dream. You woke up from it. And it's one

541
00:25:50,170 --> 00:25:53,010
S7: of those dreams where you're going. Oh, good. That didn't happen.

542
00:25:54,050 --> 00:25:55,770
S7: You got to get me one of those. Okay. And

543
00:25:55,770 --> 00:26:00,330
S7: then I do have a very distinct parallel with spiritual

544
00:26:00,330 --> 00:26:03,130
S7: truth coming up here in just a moment. Had a dream.

545
00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:04,170
S7: Got to tell you about it.

546
00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:07,530
S1: He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you

547
00:26:07,530 --> 00:26:11,770
S1: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's

548
00:26:11,770 --> 00:26:14,010
S1: curling crew on Moody Radio.

549
00:26:14,410 --> 00:26:17,609
S7: Okay. Craziest dreams I've set you guys up. Craziest dreams

550
00:26:17,609 --> 00:26:19,120
S7: that you've had recently.

551
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,439
S2: Well, last night I had last night. Last night? Okay. Yeah,

552
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,199
S2: I woke up. I woke up this morning, and I

553
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,280
S2: was grateful that this hadn't happened because I had made

554
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,480
S2: some rejoins for the show. And rejoins are basically when

555
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,000
S2: we come out of a a little set where we're,

556
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,760
S2: you know, talking about some ministries and things like that

557
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,520
S2: and we get back into the show. We've got a

558
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,040
S2: little sounder that plays and some I made some new ones.

559
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,840
S2: And Carl was in Kenya and he hadn't heard them yet.

560
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,240
S2: I had a dream that they played and he hated them.

561
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,080
S3: Oh.

562
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,760
S2: And I know, I know, I know, but I had

563
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,800
S2: this dream that you were like, you're like, these are

564
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,000
S2: no good. I need you to scrap them and redo them.

565
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,040
S2: And I was like, I was like, oh, don't be

566
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,280
S2: sorry you didn't do it. It was a dream. And

567
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,520
S2: if it needed to be done, that's also okay.

568
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,399
S7: Oh that's funny.

569
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,960
S2: But I woke up and I said, oh, thank goodness

570
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,660
S2: I don't have to redo all that work. He's like,

571
00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:21,020
S2: he hasn't heard him yet. He hasn't heard him yet.

572
00:27:21,060 --> 00:27:23,300
S2: He just got back from Kenya. It's okay.

573
00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:25,460
S3: He's like, well, Jonathan actually.

574
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:28,380
S7: That's so funny. I've heard a couple. I think they're great.

575
00:27:28,420 --> 00:27:28,900
S2: Thank you.

576
00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:31,780
S7: I'm glad. Yeah. Good job, young Thunder. All right. You

577
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:32,540
S7: feel better, man.

578
00:27:32,580 --> 00:27:34,660
S2: Thank you. I love those dreams that you wake up, though.

579
00:27:34,660 --> 00:27:36,620
S2: And you're like, oh, wait. Nope, that's not real. That

580
00:27:36,619 --> 00:27:37,180
S2: didn't happen.

581
00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:39,340
S7: It's a bummer when you find out you snuck into

582
00:27:39,340 --> 00:27:41,460
S7: someone's dreams and you're the knucklehead.

583
00:27:41,619 --> 00:27:44,100
S2: It's okay. I've had dreams where Ali screamed at me

584
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:45,139
S2: for making mistakes.

585
00:27:45,340 --> 00:27:46,460
S7: No, you have not.

586
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:49,340
S2: I have, yeah, not. And it's funny because that's something

587
00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:53,460
S2: that she would also never do is scream at me. So, like.

588
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:54,340
S7: That's hilarious.

589
00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:56,380
S2: You wake up and you go, okay, that's funny.

590
00:27:56,420 --> 00:27:59,939
S7: Well, that one time. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. All right. Ali,

591
00:27:59,940 --> 00:28:00,700
S7: craziest dream.

592
00:28:00,740 --> 00:28:03,980
S3: You know, I have a reoccurring dream of, like, my

593
00:28:03,980 --> 00:28:05,260
S3: teeth falling out.

594
00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:07,420
S2: Okay.

595
00:28:07,460 --> 00:28:10,060
S3: It's this. And it's the weirdest thing because this is.

596
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:11,900
S3: And I actually looked it up. There's, like, I don't

597
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:13,580
S3: know what's supposed to be. The association.

598
00:28:13,580 --> 00:28:16,040
S7: Does not have dentures, folks, just let me.

599
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,920
S3: Tell you. But it's like a thing, and I forget

600
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,280
S3: what they say it's associated with. But it's not like, uncommon,

601
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,200
S3: but it's. And so it's a weird sensation because it's

602
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,280
S3: like you feel like you're trying to keep your teeth

603
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,399
S3: in your mouth, like there's, it's. And they're trying to

604
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,400
S3: come out. It's so bizarre.

605
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,399
S7: I'm so sorry. This is so weird.

606
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,640
S3: Has anyone else had.

607
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,640
S7: A bizarre dream?

608
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,480
S3: No. Tell me. Has. Text me if you've had this

609
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,360
S3: dream of your teeth falling out. Please. I know that

610
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,960
S3: I'm not alone because the internet says this is a thing.

611
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,680
S3: Text 800 555 7898. I'm always happy to wake up

612
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,719
S3: and smile in. All my teeth are there.

613
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,120
S2: How often do you. Because you said it's recurring. How

614
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,880
S2: often do you have it?

615
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,280
S3: Um, I mean, I wouldn't say I have it often,

616
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,080
S3: but I've had it multiple times over the course of, like,

617
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,880
S3: you know, in in memory.

618
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,040
S2: That's crazy.

619
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:05,520
S3: Really?

620
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:05,920
S2: Yeah.

621
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,520
S3: I don't have reoccurring dreams.

622
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:07,920
S2: No.

623
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,120
S3: The other reoccurring one involves me, like, back in the newsroom,

624
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,350
S3: which was my first job. Adult job was working in

625
00:29:15,390 --> 00:29:18,150
S3: television in a newsroom. And so I have a reoccurring

626
00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:20,310
S3: dream that I'm about to miss a deadline and like,

627
00:29:20,350 --> 00:29:21,710
S3: I can't get the work done.

628
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:23,590
S2: Yeah, I guess I get that. I've had those types

629
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:27,590
S2: of dreams. I had a dream, uh, that a recurring

630
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:30,070
S2: dream that I, when I was in school and even

631
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:32,990
S2: sometimes out of school, that I was coming to graduation

632
00:29:32,990 --> 00:29:34,750
S2: or the end of a school year. And I realized

633
00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:36,950
S2: there was a class that I had never shown up to,

634
00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:39,510
S2: and it was on my schedule. And I go, how

635
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:41,510
S2: did I make it three months without going to this

636
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:43,630
S2: class once? And then I had a bunch of stuff

637
00:29:43,630 --> 00:29:45,270
S2: to do and I was gonna fail it. So yeah,

638
00:29:45,270 --> 00:29:46,030
S2: that's a bad one.

639
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:53,430
S3: Okay, I confirmation 4147 7708 37 6770. That's a lot

640
00:29:53,470 --> 00:29:57,550
S3: of people. 77 1560 okay. Do I need to go?

641
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:58,350
S2: That's a lot of people.

642
00:29:58,350 --> 00:30:01,950
S7: But these are people that use Polygrip regularly okay.

643
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:06,390
S3: No, no, no, this is a common recurring. Thank you.

644
00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:12,170
S3: I'm not crazy. I'm tons of text messages coming in confirming. Yes.

645
00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:13,730
S3: The teeth falling out.

646
00:30:14,850 --> 00:30:17,410
S7: There are multiple. There are scores of at.

647
00:30:17,410 --> 00:30:20,690
S3: Least ten people that have texted so far saying they've

648
00:30:20,690 --> 00:30:21,530
S3: had that dream.

649
00:30:21,970 --> 00:30:25,930
S7: But they're still coming in. Yeah, me multiple times. Oh

650
00:30:25,970 --> 00:30:30,650
S7: my goodness. Maybe it's, you know, God telling everyone go

651
00:30:30,650 --> 00:30:32,330
S7: get a checkup from your dentist.

652
00:30:32,570 --> 00:30:35,050
S3: I am, I am like clockwork with my dental checkups.

653
00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:36,930
S3: So I don't I don't I don't know, I'll have

654
00:30:36,930 --> 00:30:37,570
S3: to look it up.

655
00:30:37,890 --> 00:30:40,370
S7: All right. I had a dream coming up, and it

656
00:30:40,410 --> 00:30:45,370
S7: actually really rocked me. And mine did happen last night. Now,

657
00:30:45,410 --> 00:30:48,570
S7: let me put one precursor on dreams here really quickly.

658
00:30:50,050 --> 00:30:54,770
S7: I am absolutely convinced biblically, there don't be a dream

659
00:30:54,770 --> 00:30:57,570
S7: chaser that can get you in a lot of hurt

660
00:30:57,570 --> 00:31:01,969
S7: and dreams. Do not give new revelation. We got all

661
00:31:01,970 --> 00:31:04,410
S7: the revelation we need in the Word of God. But

662
00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:06,890
S7: what I'm going to give you is a dream that

663
00:31:07,090 --> 00:31:10,530
S7: just embedded in my heart. So much so I laid

664
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,239
S7: there for a little bit and said, Lord, if you

665
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,320
S7: want me to get up and write this down, I'll

666
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,880
S7: do it. But you gotta, you gotta let me know here.

667
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:26,920
S7: And I I, I got up about an hour later

668
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,240
S7: and I wrote it down. It's got some pretty significant

669
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,520
S7: spiritual implications that I want to give it to you.

670
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,560
S7: Coming up. Hang on.

671
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:47,080
S11: In dreams I walk with you. In dreams I talk

672
00:31:47,960 --> 00:32:00,600
S11: to you. In dreams, your mind all of the time.

673
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,200
S7: Doesn't sound like it made the top ten.

674
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,040
S5: What? Who sings this?

675
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,800
S2: Uh, Ray Orbison.

676
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,660
S7: Oh, yeah. Roy Orbison.

677
00:32:09,860 --> 00:32:10,260
S5: Yeah.

678
00:32:10,660 --> 00:32:12,540
S2: Oh, is it Roy?

679
00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:13,460
S7: I don't think it's Ray.

680
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,420
S2: Yeah. No, you're right, it's Roy.

681
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:15,660
S7: Yeah, it's Roy Orbison.

682
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:16,180
S5: Yeah.

683
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:18,180
S7: He's got some pipes up.

684
00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:19,380
S2: He does. He's good.

685
00:32:19,540 --> 00:32:21,460
S7: I don't think that's one of his big ones. Is it?

686
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:23,900
S2: I don't I don't know, I can't he.

687
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:24,300
S5: Just looked.

688
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:24,580
S3: For a.

689
00:32:24,580 --> 00:32:24,780
S5: Song.

690
00:32:24,820 --> 00:32:25,340
S2: Nor did I.

691
00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:26,300
S3: About dreams.

692
00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:30,300
S7: I did had someone takes me here. We're talking about dreams.

693
00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:32,740
S7: Ellie has this reoccurring dream. I'm going to get to mine,

694
00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:36,180
S7: I promise you. But it's that she loses her teeth anyway.

695
00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:38,660
S7: Somebody takes the same one. And I made this crack

696
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:41,020
S7: about Polygrip. She goes, I'm 36 years old. I don't

697
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:41,860
S7: have polygrip.

698
00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:46,980
S3: I mean, I have we it's well confirmed. Yeah. I'm

699
00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:51,060
S3: such a a common reoccurring dream. So I feel good

700
00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:53,020
S3: that I'm not alone. Because after you say something like that,

701
00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:53,940
S3: everybody's like, what?

702
00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:55,380
S12: That's so weird that.

703
00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:58,740
S3: You're like, oh, slinking back into my corner?

704
00:32:58,780 --> 00:33:02,180
S7: No. Yeah, I know, that's horrible. What people do to people.

705
00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:05,580
S7: It's horrible what I just did to you. Um, okay,

706
00:33:05,580 --> 00:33:06,940
S7: so I had a dream. Now I want to say

707
00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:10,440
S7: this again. This is very important. Don't be a dream chaser.

708
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,080
S7: Be a revelation reader. In other words, the Word of God.

709
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,960
S7: That is our best guidance for our life. In fact,

710
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,600
S7: it's it's very dangerous to be interpreting dreams, getting new

711
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,400
S7: revelation and things that don't comport with the scripture. So

712
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,680
S7: I want to preface it with that. Are we all

713
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,680
S7: good there? Yes. Got to get clear. So, and I'm

714
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,520
S7: not a big dream interpreter at all. That's that's not

715
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,560
S7: my thing here. But I had a dream last night

716
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,040
S7: that woke me up and it was so clear. Here's

717
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,480
S7: what one's going down. I found myself in a parking

718
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,960
S7: lot with a couple of friends around me that I

719
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,880
S7: won't mention names, but they were with me and I

720
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,240
S7: was sharing the gospel. And we're in this parking lot.

721
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,600
S7: So these dreams are always bizarre, right? And there were

722
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,320
S7: a couple of doors open on some cars, and then

723
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,400
S7: there were some guys gathering around, and I recognized a

724
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,750
S7: couple of them, a couple sons of one guy, and

725
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:09,989
S7: then some others were gathering around and I begin to

726
00:34:09,989 --> 00:34:12,750
S7: share the gospel, and there was some excitement from some.

727
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:15,509
S7: And then there was some, uh, some just kind of

728
00:34:15,550 --> 00:34:18,750
S7: walked away. But some of those that were excited are

729
00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:24,630
S7: now walking away. And it was it was really confusing.

730
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:28,430
S7: But I, I got up from that position where I

731
00:34:28,430 --> 00:34:32,150
S7: was and I went out and I, I started chasing

732
00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:35,549
S7: down those guys that had shown some level of interest

733
00:34:35,550 --> 00:34:38,509
S7: in the gospel. And they're like walking away and I'm

734
00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:40,830
S7: like going across the parking lot and they're like hiding

735
00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:43,710
S7: behind dumpsters. And I'm saying, come back, you know, come

736
00:34:43,710 --> 00:34:45,469
S7: on back. And I want to I want to tell

737
00:34:45,469 --> 00:34:48,589
S7: you more. What who came along with me were some

738
00:34:48,590 --> 00:34:53,549
S7: of the guys who were interested to hear. And the

739
00:34:53,550 --> 00:35:01,030
S7: dream ended bang. Right there. That was it. And I

740
00:35:01,070 --> 00:35:03,270
S7: knew what the Lord was doing. And this didn't come

741
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:06,330
S7: out of nothing. Dreams don't come out of nothing. Usually

742
00:35:06,330 --> 00:35:10,410
S7: there's something going on. But it came out of something

743
00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:12,569
S7: that the Lord's been doing in my heart. And that

744
00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:18,010
S7: is one of the great challenges in the church in America,

745
00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:20,730
S7: in the West. Want to include all of us here

746
00:35:21,290 --> 00:35:24,930
S7: that are listening. Is that and I say this with

747
00:35:24,930 --> 00:35:31,650
S7: total mercy here and absolute humility, we can find ourselves

748
00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:36,930
S7: investing in people that are not interested in the gospel

749
00:35:36,969 --> 00:35:40,250
S7: as much as we think they are. The interesting thing

750
00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:42,850
S7: about Jesus when he sent out the disciples two by two,

751
00:35:42,850 --> 00:35:45,290
S7: and it's found in three of the Gospels, he said,

752
00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:48,330
S7: if they receive you in the truth that you bring, stay.

753
00:35:49,450 --> 00:35:52,609
S7: But if they don't, just the kick the dust off

754
00:35:52,610 --> 00:35:56,170
S7: your feet and keep moving. And there is a certain

755
00:35:56,170 --> 00:35:58,890
S7: sense in which Jesus knew that there were going to

756
00:35:58,890 --> 00:36:02,049
S7: be people who were God fearing enough that when they

757
00:36:02,050 --> 00:36:05,870
S7: heard it, I'm thinking Lydia. Cornelius. Nicodemus, right? Yes. They

758
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:09,670
S7: were God fearing people that they will respond to the

759
00:36:09,710 --> 00:36:15,070
S7: gospel and in my conviction has grown strongly that not

760
00:36:15,070 --> 00:36:20,550
S7: to discount, not to dismiss, not to demonize, not to

761
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:24,950
S7: malign anyone that's not ready to hear the gospel or

762
00:36:24,989 --> 00:36:29,710
S7: be discipled in it, but to make sure that we're

763
00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:33,509
S7: not trying to pour water into lips that are sealed.

764
00:36:35,469 --> 00:36:41,750
S7: It's an important nuance, and it's been fascinating for me

765
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:46,509
S7: because I've been a pastor now 40 years. And I

766
00:36:46,510 --> 00:36:49,390
S7: remember back to a time when Robert Lewis was mentoring

767
00:36:49,390 --> 00:36:52,870
S7: me years ago. I was a young pastor in little Rock, Arkansas,

768
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:56,030
S7: and I came to him one time. We were just

769
00:36:56,030 --> 00:36:59,029
S7: discussing something. He said, how are things going? I go, great, man.

770
00:36:59,430 --> 00:37:02,180
S7: I said, I have one frustration, you know. These guys

771
00:37:02,660 --> 00:37:05,060
S7: want to meet with me. And I said, I get

772
00:37:05,060 --> 00:37:07,980
S7: ghosted by some of these guys. I'll set a time,

773
00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:11,060
S7: have my office lights on 6 a.m. in the office

774
00:37:11,060 --> 00:37:15,739
S7: ready to roll, and got ghosted back before ghosted was

775
00:37:15,739 --> 00:37:20,899
S7: even an invented word for this happening. And and then

776
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:24,620
S7: others come and I'll give them something to do. And man,

777
00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:28,220
S7: they don't follow through on it. And he said, oh, Carl,

778
00:37:28,219 --> 00:37:31,580
S7: let me save you some energy here and really focus

779
00:37:31,580 --> 00:37:36,060
S7: your effort on people that God really wants to work in.

780
00:37:37,060 --> 00:37:39,620
S7: And he said, and what he told me is what

781
00:37:39,620 --> 00:37:42,620
S7: I did. I'd give us specific passage of Scripture and

782
00:37:42,620 --> 00:37:46,380
S7: I'd say, make three observations from this little passage of

783
00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:49,339
S7: Scripture and give me three questions that you'd like to

784
00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:52,700
S7: get answered as a result of it. We'll tackle that,

785
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:54,780
S7: and then we'll get into anything else that you have.

786
00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:58,260
S7: You guys cannot believe how dramatically the bookings went down.

787
00:37:58,500 --> 00:37:58,900
S5: Um.

788
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:07,120
S7: And I don't have anything prescriptive. It's more descriptive. And

789
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,840
S7: I think it's a it's a good cautionary tone. And

790
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719
S7: again I want to stress this. Kicking the dust off

791
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,479
S7: your feet is not saying ah, I'm out of here.

792
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,000
S7: I'm not messing with you. It could be that it's

793
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,600
S7: just not time yet for that person. Maybe they aren't

794
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,360
S7: poor in spirit. Maybe they don't realize their spiritual bankruptcy fully.

795
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,280
S7: They might be at a certain level intrigued with going

796
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,440
S7: deeper with God, but they they don't see their need

797
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,360
S7: for him enough to cause it to be a fruitful

798
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,480
S7: venture for you to be pouring into that person. And

799
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,520
S7: the only reason I mentioned that is I want to

800
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,360
S7: be obedient to the Lord here this morning and take

801
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,400
S7: what for me is one of the most tangible, really

802
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,480
S7: dreams that I do believe that the Lord had me

803
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,140
S7: dream that dream to ensconce what the Lord's been showing

804
00:38:59,140 --> 00:39:04,420
S7: me about really going with people who are broken, humble,

805
00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:08,980
S7: contrite and ready to grow. Not certainly not perfected, just hungry.

806
00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:12,900
S7: They might be a wreck personally, but they're an incredible

807
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:17,500
S7: joy to work with because their hearts are eager and ready. So.

808
00:39:19,820 --> 00:39:23,020
S7: There you go. You don't chase dreams for the purpose

809
00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:26,219
S7: of establishing new revelation. We don't need new revelation. I

810
00:39:26,260 --> 00:39:29,140
S7: got plenty here for all y'all that we still gotta

811
00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:30,100
S7: apply to our lives.

812
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:30,620
S2: Right here.

813
00:39:31,060 --> 00:39:32,020
S7: Right here in front of me.

814
00:39:32,060 --> 00:39:34,380
S2: We got so much in the Bible that we read.

815
00:39:34,420 --> 00:39:35,260
S3: For his Bible.

816
00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:37,859
S2: And we've never seen before. And we never, you know,

817
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:40,379
S2: I've never noticed that passage. And we've been in the

818
00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:44,260
S2: word for ten, 20 years sometimes and, and new stuff

819
00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:46,979
S2: that's been there the whole time gets revealed to us.

820
00:39:46,980 --> 00:39:48,819
S2: And you know what? We got a lot to learn

821
00:39:48,820 --> 00:39:49,900
S2: from the word right now. Yeah.

822
00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:56,060
S7: Investing in those that are truly broken and hungry requires discernment.

823
00:39:56,370 --> 00:39:58,969
S7: But we can do it. Think about it today. We

824
00:39:58,969 --> 00:39:59,810
S7: love you guys.

825
00:40:00,570 --> 00:40:06,650
S13: Dream on, dream on, dream on, dream on. Dream come true.

826
00:40:12,489 --> 00:40:17,570
S13: Dream on, dream on, dream on. Dream until your dream

827
00:40:17,570 --> 00:40:18,610
S13: come true.

828
00:40:20,330 --> 00:40:23,969
S7: We won't get into the part where he's almost I

829
00:40:23,969 --> 00:40:27,810
S7: don't know. Vocal cords are coming out of him because

830
00:40:27,850 --> 00:40:29,170
S7: it's so heavy.

831
00:40:29,290 --> 00:40:32,530
S3: 16 octaves. Yeah, well that one right there. Woo!

832
00:40:33,330 --> 00:40:37,530
S7: Yeah, yeah. It's interesting. The songs are written about dreams

833
00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:40,209
S7: all the time. People are fascinated with dreams. And as

834
00:40:40,210 --> 00:40:42,890
S7: Christ followers, we find even in the book of acts

835
00:40:42,890 --> 00:40:48,370
S7: that older men will dream dreams. And there's. Let me

836
00:40:48,370 --> 00:40:51,290
S7: just be very clear here. This is very important to note.

837
00:40:51,730 --> 00:40:55,950
S7: We don't need to, nor should we be dream chasers. No,

838
00:40:56,830 --> 00:41:00,469
S7: we don't need. Especially if it's some kind of new revelation.

839
00:41:00,510 --> 00:41:03,830
S7: I get air quotes going here. We don't need new revelation.

840
00:41:03,830 --> 00:41:09,509
S7: That's not what God is doing. The revelation. I got

841
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:11,950
S7: it right here. I'm holding up my Bible. We got

842
00:41:11,950 --> 00:41:16,469
S7: so much revelation right here, undigested, that we don't need

843
00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:18,630
S7: dreams and discern them. We just need to open the

844
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:21,510
S7: book and read them. Yeah, we got good stuff right here.

845
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:26,590
S7: That being said, I've, I've I'm not a dream chaser

846
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:29,430
S7: at all. And most of my dreams have been crazy,

847
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:32,150
S7: like Ali said, bad pizza or something like that. But

848
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:34,310
S7: I did have a dream last night that woke me

849
00:41:34,310 --> 00:41:37,629
S7: up at 130, and it was so wild because I've

850
00:41:37,630 --> 00:41:40,589
S7: been noodling on something. I'll get to that. But here

851
00:41:40,590 --> 00:41:43,989
S7: was the dream. I'm standing in a parking lot who

852
00:41:43,989 --> 00:41:47,430
S7: knows where. Santa's parking lot in between two cars and

853
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:50,190
S7: all the doors are opened up, and I've got a

854
00:41:50,190 --> 00:41:52,910
S7: couple of my buddies that are there, and then a

855
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:54,729
S7: few other folks. I didn't know who in the world

856
00:41:54,730 --> 00:41:57,410
S7: they were. And then one of my buddies, two sons

857
00:41:57,410 --> 00:42:00,850
S7: were there. And then some people start gathering around and

858
00:42:00,850 --> 00:42:03,850
S7: I am sharing the gospel with this group of guys.

859
00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:08,450
S7: And it's really chaotic because a few guys are really

860
00:42:08,450 --> 00:42:12,810
S7: showing interest. Some are walking away. And then those couple

861
00:42:12,810 --> 00:42:15,609
S7: showed interest initially, and then all of a sudden they

862
00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:20,250
S7: click out and they start walking away and I'm like, whoa, I,

863
00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:23,210
S7: you know, and some of them that are walking away

864
00:42:23,210 --> 00:42:26,129
S7: that didn't even show interest, they're walking away. And I

865
00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:29,810
S7: felt compelled. I got to go get these guys. So

866
00:42:29,850 --> 00:42:33,730
S7: in my dream I turn and I even take those

867
00:42:33,730 --> 00:42:37,489
S7: that were there that wanted to hear, and I take

868
00:42:37,489 --> 00:42:40,250
S7: them with me on a hunt for these guys and

869
00:42:40,250 --> 00:42:43,290
S7: I'm trying to cajole them. No joking. Some are hiding

870
00:42:43,290 --> 00:42:46,210
S7: behind dumpsters at like a Walmart or something. Some kind

871
00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:47,730
S7: of a department store or something.

872
00:42:47,770 --> 00:42:48,490
S2: Literally hiding.

873
00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:49,690
S7: Dreams are bizarre.

874
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:50,650
S2: Dreams are bizarre.

875
00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:54,839
S7: They're so bizarre. And I'm trying to cajole these. Hey,

876
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,080
S7: come on out. I'll give you more gospel. And I

877
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,760
S7: was spending all my time doing that. And I wake

878
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,800
S7: up and the thing that hit me was, the Lord

879
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,359
S7: is I believe, I truly believe, and I've never said

880
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,200
S7: this about a dream before. I believe that the Lord

881
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:21,399
S7: was just using my sleep to firmly ensconced in my

882
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,279
S7: heart a principle that I've been noodling on for a

883
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,760
S7: long time and have known it for a number of years,

884
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,680
S7: but really feeling the urgency with it, especially now that

885
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,320
S7: we're a post-Christian nation and people deserve a fair shot

886
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,479
S7: at the gospel. I've. I've been noodling on this one,

887
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,200
S7: and it's simply this when Jesus sent out the disciples,

888
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,640
S7: Matthew ten, and it's in Luke and Mark as well,

889
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,600
S7: when he sent them out two by two, he said, listen, go.

890
00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:53,900
S7: And as you go and you greet a home, if

891
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:58,739
S7: they do not receive you or the word you share, well,

892
00:43:58,820 --> 00:44:00,739
S7: first he puts it in the positive. If they receive you,

893
00:44:00,739 --> 00:44:03,819
S7: good man, hang out. But if they don't receive you

894
00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:06,500
S7: or the words that you share. Kick the dust off

895
00:44:06,540 --> 00:44:09,419
S7: your feet and move along. In fact, in I think

896
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:13,020
S7: it's Luke, he expands on it. Luke does and expands

897
00:44:13,020 --> 00:44:17,980
S7: that that that rejection of your message will stand as

898
00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:20,500
S7: testimony against them at the judgment. I mean, it's pretty

899
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:26,979
S7: scary deal. But the principle not only there, but all

900
00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:33,020
S7: throughout the New Testament, you find warnings to invest the

901
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:40,260
S7: gospel with people who have receptivity toward it. Really? Not

902
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:46,259
S7: just an inkling, but receptivity. And I've been noodling on

903
00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:48,420
S7: this one as well. Been doing a lot of noodling,

904
00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:51,690
S7: but I've been noodling on something else as well. And

905
00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:57,730
S7: that is, if you look at Lydia, Philippian cellar purple, Cornelius, Nicodemus,

906
00:44:58,250 --> 00:45:01,569
S7: you find a constant thread of these people that accepted

907
00:45:01,570 --> 00:45:04,090
S7: the message of Jesus. And Jesus said it. They didn't

908
00:45:04,090 --> 00:45:07,489
S7: accept me. He says in John, because they believed in me.

909
00:45:07,489 --> 00:45:12,569
S7: It's because they believed in God, which is a profound statement, right?

910
00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:15,010
S7: Jesus said they didn't believe in me. They believed in God.

911
00:45:16,330 --> 00:45:22,170
S7: And what's what struck me is I think, and I

912
00:45:22,170 --> 00:45:23,730
S7: and I mean this from the bottom of my heart,

913
00:45:23,730 --> 00:45:30,810
S7: we often find ourselves spending. Time that would be better

914
00:45:30,810 --> 00:45:33,490
S7: spent with people like the guys that I took, looking

915
00:45:33,489 --> 00:45:36,770
S7: for the people that had kind of had acknowledged something,

916
00:45:36,770 --> 00:45:40,290
S7: then walked away in my dream. And what the Lord

917
00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:43,170
S7: was showing me is no better to linger with those

918
00:45:43,170 --> 00:45:46,209
S7: around the cars in the dream, with those that were

919
00:45:46,210 --> 00:45:49,589
S7: ready to hear, rather than go out and chasten those

920
00:45:49,590 --> 00:45:55,430
S7: that have already said no mas. And the principle is

921
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:57,989
S7: a simple one, and I've learned it over and over again,

922
00:45:59,190 --> 00:46:02,589
S7: and that is we we need to be men and

923
00:46:02,590 --> 00:46:05,670
S7: women that understand that not every person we see is

924
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:09,390
S7: going to be receptive. We all get that. But to

925
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:12,029
S7: make certain, especially those of us that are committed to

926
00:46:12,070 --> 00:46:19,030
S7: making disciples, that we're pouring ourselves into people that are humble, receptive, teachable,

927
00:46:19,550 --> 00:46:22,270
S7: and and really ready to go. Perfect. No. And by

928
00:46:22,270 --> 00:46:25,830
S7: the way, do we discount the people that walk away? No.

929
00:46:26,110 --> 00:46:28,989
S7: It might not be the time. It's okay.

930
00:46:30,070 --> 00:46:30,510
S3: Yeah.

931
00:46:30,910 --> 00:46:31,710
S10: It's okay.

932
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:34,910
S2: Yeah. I think it's important because if we stay focused

933
00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:38,069
S2: on people who constantly reject it and our eyes are

934
00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:40,069
S2: only trained there, then we will miss other people that

935
00:46:40,070 --> 00:46:41,470
S2: we have an opportunity to help.

936
00:46:42,310 --> 00:46:46,250
S7: Yeah. Once, um, I once had a, um, a mentor

937
00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:48,890
S7: of mine. I told him that I had a lot

938
00:46:48,890 --> 00:46:50,930
S7: of I was a young pastor. I said, man, I

939
00:46:50,969 --> 00:46:52,290
S7: got a lot of guys that are trying to get

940
00:46:52,290 --> 00:46:55,730
S7: together with me with, uh, with meetings and then a

941
00:46:55,730 --> 00:46:57,489
S7: couple of them ghost me and then some of them

942
00:46:57,489 --> 00:46:58,970
S7: when I meet with them, and I give them something

943
00:46:58,969 --> 00:47:00,970
S7: to do, they aren't doing it. And he said, oh, man,

944
00:47:01,090 --> 00:47:03,130
S7: let me help you. And he he taught me really

945
00:47:03,130 --> 00:47:07,090
S7: quickly little passage of Scripture. Have him summarize that passage

946
00:47:07,090 --> 00:47:12,010
S7: of Scripture. Um, have them summarize that whole passage with

947
00:47:12,010 --> 00:47:17,209
S7: three takeaways that they have from that passage, and then

948
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:20,650
S7: three questions that they have that arose from that passage.

949
00:47:20,650 --> 00:47:22,529
S7: He says, if somebody wants to book an appointment with

950
00:47:22,530 --> 00:47:26,089
S7: you on any topic, tell them that's that's great. And

951
00:47:26,090 --> 00:47:28,730
S7: I want to in this meeting, we'll tackle that. But

952
00:47:28,730 --> 00:47:31,089
S7: I want you to I want you to tackle this

953
00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:35,250
S7: one first. Um, just we'll have a little devo at

954
00:47:35,250 --> 00:47:37,570
S7: the start of our time together. Just a quick one.

955
00:47:38,170 --> 00:47:43,920
S7: And I was like, wow, that's counterintuitive, but something amazing happened, Guys.

956
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,400
S7: I had a sharp decline of people that followed through

957
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,280
S7: on wanting to really get that meeting because I told them,

958
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,759
S7: you know, when you get those observations done in those

959
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,879
S7: three questions, give my assistant or me a call and

960
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,680
S7: we'll get you on the calendar. And it went down markedly.

961
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,960
S7: And it's just an it's just an incredible thing that

962
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,040
S7: we see. And I think being in Kenya, I haven't

963
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,680
S7: spoken a lot about Kenya today, but being in Kenya.

964
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:24,160
S7: Oh my goodness. I spoke from there last week. The earnestness, Ali,

965
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,680
S7: of these men and women when they prayed, when they

966
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,400
S7: were baptized, when they shared their stories, when some of

967
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,719
S7: the leadership, the indigenous leadership of TT were pouring out

968
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,640
S7: their hearts about what God's doing in their country. I mean,

969
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,700
S7: those are guys and gals that you pour into and

970
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:47,100
S7: they are gobbling it up. You know what I mean?

971
00:48:47,140 --> 00:48:48,819
S3: Yeah. And I think the flip side of that is

972
00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:52,339
S3: to look at our own attitude as the if we're

973
00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:54,980
S3: on the receiving end of discipleship and in reality.

974
00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:55,900
S10: Gobbling it up.

975
00:48:55,980 --> 00:48:58,859
S3: Right. That do we have, whether it's a sermon that

976
00:48:58,860 --> 00:49:01,939
S3: we're hearing on Sunday or a small group that we're in,

977
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:05,620
S3: it's easy to be, especially in our cultural context where

978
00:49:05,620 --> 00:49:08,340
S3: there's so much available, it's easy to become sort of

979
00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:12,899
S3: passive and kind of have a consumeristic approach to that.

980
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:16,900
S3: Sermon was, okay. That book, you know, where we're almost

981
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:20,580
S3: like evaluating the quality of something rather than having a

982
00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:23,700
S3: real hunger to receive it in a desperation to get

983
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:26,060
S3: anything out of it that's valuable.

984
00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:29,140
S7: It's so true. You know, David Nelms, I was talking

985
00:49:29,140 --> 00:49:32,379
S7: to him. He's the founder of T.I.. I said, what

986
00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:35,940
S7: do you do if you're you find that people maybe

987
00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:40,100
S7: are lacking the the zip for the Great Commission go

988
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:43,160
S7: into all the earth. Preach the gospel, baptizing in the

989
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,520
S7: name of the father, son, and Holy Spirit. Disciples teaching

990
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,000
S7: them to observe all humanity. He said, you know what, Carl?

991
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:54,680
S7: He said, the motive, the engine room of disciple making

992
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,360
S7: and great commission living is the great commandment. He said,

993
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,120
S7: until people love the Lord their God with all their heart, soul, mind,

994
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,799
S7: and strength. He said, that's we need to in. My

995
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,600
S7: bride loves to say this to me. Oh, bub, she.

996
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,560
S7: When we walked away from David and home, she reminded

997
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,080
S7: me again. She said, we just need to constantly enthrall

998
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,040
S7: people's minds. That's a John Piper ism, by the way.

999
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,080
S7: Enthrall people's minds with the grandeur and the power of God.

1000
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,640
S1: Celebrating the unstoppable gospel.

1001
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,240
S2: It's not that I've got to fill in these check boxes.

1002
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,120
S2: So he's okay with me, but it's that I get

1003
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,120
S2: to stand close to him so that I can experience

1004
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,840
S2: the life that he has for me.

1005
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,000
S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.

1006
00:50:40,110 --> 00:50:42,589
S7: Yeah. When we think about Iran or any of these

1007
00:50:42,590 --> 00:50:45,629
S7: countries that we commonly communicate with you, what God is

1008
00:50:45,630 --> 00:50:48,069
S7: doing there, it's it's one thing to get someone who

1009
00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:49,830
S7: has a heart for it. But, boy, when they were

1010
00:50:49,830 --> 00:50:52,430
S7: born there, there's something about that, right?

1011
00:50:52,830 --> 00:50:55,549
S3: Absolutely. Lot of silk with us right now. She is

1012
00:50:55,550 --> 00:50:59,189
S3: the president and CEO of Transform Iran, born and raised

1013
00:50:59,190 --> 00:51:01,630
S3: in Iran before emigrating to the UK where she completed

1014
00:51:01,630 --> 00:51:06,150
S3: her education. Give us an update on what is happening

1015
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:08,110
S3: now in Iran and the significance.

1016
00:51:09,350 --> 00:51:13,430
S14: Thank you both for continuing the conversation. It was interesting

1017
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:15,510
S14: hearing what you said earlier, Carl, that, you know, people

1018
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:17,870
S14: just get tired, don't they? And the news just moves

1019
00:51:17,870 --> 00:51:22,310
S14: on and the situation hasn't moved on. It's it's living

1020
00:51:22,310 --> 00:51:25,750
S14: in Iran today. Will I use the word living inaccurately? Really?

1021
00:51:25,790 --> 00:51:28,230
S14: I'm looking through some of the testimonies and comments that

1022
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:30,830
S14: our pastors have been sending us. And the general word

1023
00:51:30,830 --> 00:51:35,310
S14: is we're not living right now. People are surviving barely.

1024
00:51:35,350 --> 00:51:38,250
S14: They can hardly afford to buy food. They're afraid to

1025
00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:41,930
S14: walk the streets. They report snipers on rooftops. Just taking

1026
00:51:41,930 --> 00:51:45,010
S14: people out. No conversations. Like if you're out in public,

1027
00:51:45,210 --> 00:51:48,210
S14: you risk death. It's. It's really tough.

1028
00:51:48,930 --> 00:51:52,930
S7: You know, Lana, I was reminded I saw something yesterday,

1029
00:51:52,930 --> 00:51:55,209
S7: and it's so true. Somebody was talking about, you know,

1030
00:51:55,250 --> 00:52:00,090
S7: we we want to talk. Oftentimes, we hope that the

1031
00:52:00,410 --> 00:52:04,410
S7: kingdom life, which is so separate from this earthly life,

1032
00:52:04,570 --> 00:52:09,250
S7: would somehow affect the earthly realm. But we find over

1033
00:52:09,250 --> 00:52:13,010
S7: and over again in Scripture that the kingdom life is

1034
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:18,570
S7: so radically distinct from the earthly life. That's the only

1035
00:52:18,570 --> 00:52:21,650
S7: way to explain why the church is thriving in Iran.

1036
00:52:21,650 --> 00:52:22,850
S7: Is that correct, Lana?

1037
00:52:23,690 --> 00:52:27,410
S14: Absolutely right. Absolutely right. God will have his glory, Carl.

1038
00:52:27,610 --> 00:52:29,770
S14: And as I've been praying this week, I've been thinking,

1039
00:52:29,810 --> 00:52:32,370
S14: you know, there's a lot of conversation about who will

1040
00:52:32,370 --> 00:52:34,770
S14: help the Iranian people, who will come to their rescue,

1041
00:52:34,810 --> 00:52:38,870
S14: what's going to happen next. And the overwhelming thought is,

1042
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:41,670
S14: God is going to get the glory in this story,

1043
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:44,510
S14: and he is getting ready to redeem the people of Iran.

1044
00:52:44,550 --> 00:52:47,310
S14: I'm absolutely convinced of it. The Sierra is going to

1045
00:52:47,310 --> 00:52:50,870
S14: be the big change in Iran, and the credit is

1046
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:54,629
S14: going to go to our wonderful, loving Heavenly Father. So

1047
00:52:54,670 --> 00:52:58,150
S14: I'm excited to see what he's up to, and I

1048
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:59,390
S14: hope he will do it soon.

1049
00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:02,790
S7: I'm hearing I don't want to linger in this too

1050
00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:06,070
S7: much because I don't want to. I want to give.

1051
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:08,910
S7: I want to give everyone a taste of what's going

1052
00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:11,870
S7: on without getting into the muck and mire. But there

1053
00:53:11,870 --> 00:53:16,950
S7: are tens of thousands estimated to be slaughtered thus far

1054
00:53:17,230 --> 00:53:20,549
S7: that give us an update on those numbers. And my

1055
00:53:20,550 --> 00:53:24,550
S7: understanding is they are actually going into some of these

1056
00:53:24,550 --> 00:53:28,550
S7: safety shelters where people are going who have been walking streets,

1057
00:53:28,590 --> 00:53:32,510
S7: find themselves shot, wounded, and they're pulling those people out

1058
00:53:32,510 --> 00:53:36,060
S7: and hauling them away or or taking their life right

1059
00:53:36,060 --> 00:53:39,780
S7: there without getting too graphic. Lana, where are we?

1060
00:53:40,540 --> 00:53:44,820
S14: Yeah. That's it exactly as you described it. It's totally

1061
00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:48,540
S14: unsafe in any context. Even in hospitals, they're dragging people

1062
00:53:48,540 --> 00:53:51,660
S14: out of hospitals and shooting them. They're killing doctors and

1063
00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:56,980
S14: nurses who are helping gunshot victims. Um, it's. And it

1064
00:53:56,980 --> 00:54:00,540
S14: is for sure tens of thousands, maybe 50 more. You know,

1065
00:54:00,580 --> 00:54:03,660
S14: there's no accurate statistics right now. There are even people

1066
00:54:03,660 --> 00:54:06,540
S14: are telling us right now that there there is blood

1067
00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:10,700
S14: on the streets like dried blood, flowing blood from, um,

1068
00:54:10,820 --> 00:54:13,380
S14: you know, week or so ago. It's it's that level

1069
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:14,140
S14: of massacre.

1070
00:54:15,940 --> 00:54:19,740
S3: Lana, for those who are going. What in the world?

1071
00:54:19,780 --> 00:54:22,060
S3: How how did we get to this point? What is

1072
00:54:22,060 --> 00:54:25,380
S3: the what is the motive? Is is it power? Obviously

1073
00:54:25,380 --> 00:54:28,500
S3: we know it's it's it's a spiritual war as well.

1074
00:54:28,540 --> 00:54:28,980
S10: Sure.

1075
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:33,160
S14: Yes it is. Um, we you know, sometimes I look

1076
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,640
S14: at the political situation and there's a lot that I

1077
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,279
S14: don't understand what's happening behind closed doors. Intelligence that our

1078
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,799
S14: leaders have. But I do think, well, this isn't a

1079
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,800
S14: normal kind of negotiation. We're not dealing with a regime

1080
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,839
S14: that is motivated by the same things that we are

1081
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,560
S14: in the West. This regime has an ideological motivation. They

1082
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,600
S14: believe that they have a God given mandate to export

1083
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,120
S14: Shia Islam to the world. And they've made no secret

1084
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,560
S14: of the fact that what happens to their own people

1085
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,319
S14: in that journey is not consequential. So it's a whole

1086
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,719
S14: different kind of game here. The Iranian government is is

1087
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,680
S14: on a religious mission. It's not even just about power.

1088
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,680
S14: It's about a world domination. As far as pleasing Allah,

1089
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,680
S14: if I can summarize it that way.

1090
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,600
S10: You know.

1091
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,000
S7: I was actually over the weekend studying a little bit

1092
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,520
S7: on the Quran and understanding a little bit more why

1093
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:35,860
S7: some countries interpret the Quran so radically, while others a

1094
00:55:35,860 --> 00:55:40,779
S7: little less so. Obviously, this is a radical interpretation of

1095
00:55:40,820 --> 00:55:43,500
S7: their beliefs, without a doubt. And.

1096
00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:44,620
S14: And for sure.

1097
00:55:44,780 --> 00:55:45,180
S7: Yeah.

1098
00:55:45,260 --> 00:55:45,620
S14: Go ahead.

1099
00:55:45,660 --> 00:55:48,660
S7: No, no. So expand on that a little bit.

1100
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:52,700
S14: Yeah I think it depends on to what level you take,

1101
00:55:52,739 --> 00:55:55,819
S14: what you're reading and studying. Literally you can take use

1102
00:55:55,820 --> 00:55:59,220
S14: that word. I would even compare it to what we

1103
00:55:59,219 --> 00:56:02,980
S14: might call radical Christianity, in the sense that we're willing

1104
00:56:03,140 --> 00:56:08,180
S14: to be completely ostracized. Um, uh, you know, persecuted even

1105
00:56:08,180 --> 00:56:11,580
S14: for our faith. But we're committed to the nth degree

1106
00:56:11,580 --> 00:56:14,819
S14: to follow Jesus. I would say there is a comparison there.

1107
00:56:14,860 --> 00:56:18,460
S14: You know, the the teachings of Islam do not coexist

1108
00:56:18,460 --> 00:56:21,860
S14: with the values of the West. So if an Islamic

1109
00:56:21,860 --> 00:56:25,100
S14: government is ready to take them at their word and

1110
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:28,259
S14: follow them ruthlessly and completely, they have to be prepared

1111
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S14: to be ostracized by the rest of the world and

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S14: effectively wage war against Western civilization. The Iranian government has

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S14: declared that they're comfortable with that. There are other Islamic

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S14: governments that actually want to coexistence, want trade, want to

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S14: play nice with the West. Then they have to water

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S14: things down to do that.

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S10: Yeah.

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S7: What are you hearing from the church? Lana, what's going on?

1119
00:56:50,810 --> 00:56:54,690
S7: What is what is going on with our brothers and sisters?

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S14: Call. I'm excited to share some updates with you. God

1121
00:56:58,890 --> 00:57:02,490
S14: is working. He is still working. We have salvations. People

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S14: have been sending me testimonies even at this time with

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00:57:05,890 --> 00:57:09,569
S14: this high risk. We've had people contacting us in between,

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S14: you know, openings in the internet blackout saying, you know,

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S14: we've been thinking about it for a year. This one

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00:57:15,010 --> 00:57:18,370
S14: gentleman's testimony. I've had Christianity, Jesus on my mind for

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S14: about a year, never had the courage. But now is

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S14: the time. What do I do? I want to learn more.

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S14: I want to be discipled. Imagine now, he says, is

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S14: the time when they're all being killed. People are really hungry.

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S14: And on top of that, I got to tell you,

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S14: we're praying for moral courage. If you look on our

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00:57:34,190 --> 00:57:35,950
S14: prayer section on our site, one of the things we

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00:57:35,950 --> 00:57:41,150
S14: asked for was prayer for moral courage amongst the Iranian authorities,

1135
00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:46,550
S14: the police to disobey evil instruction. I've had, just two

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S14: days ago, two separate stories of people reporting police rejecting

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00:57:52,790 --> 00:57:58,150
S14: instruction to do terrible things in the face of whatever

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00:57:58,150 --> 00:58:00,870
S14: might happen to them. One of them was to abuse

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S14: their female prisoners. He said, you have you can farm

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S14: if you want. I have to alter it. I'm not

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00:58:05,110 --> 00:58:07,150
S14: going to do it. And the other one was an

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00:58:07,150 --> 00:58:10,270
S14: argument between a policeman and IRGC agent, with the policeman

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00:58:10,910 --> 00:58:13,390
S14: shutting down an attempt to put tear gas into a

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S14: public space.

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S3: Hard to even take in. Lana. Silk from transform Iran.

1146
00:58:18,190 --> 00:58:21,310
S3: We want to get you connected with her website. Also

1147
00:58:21,350 --> 00:58:27,500
S3: the prayer guide. Just text transform to 800 555 7898.

1148
00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:32,300
S3: Text transform two 800 555. 78. 98.

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00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:35,300
S7: Yeah, Lana. And we're going to get this resource out.

1150
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:37,660
S7: And people are grabbing it now by the droves. We

1151
00:58:37,700 --> 00:58:40,300
S7: got a lot of great people that love the church

1152
00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:44,900
S7: around the globe. Uh, what is your anticipation? What do

1153
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:47,500
S7: we need to be looking for in the next I

1154
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:50,780
S7: don't know, uh, week to two weeks? I know that

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00:58:50,780 --> 00:58:55,020
S7: this is geopolitically. This is a dicey situation. Uh, we

1156
00:58:55,060 --> 00:58:57,380
S7: don't want to get in. And I was thinking about

1157
00:58:57,380 --> 00:59:02,660
S7: this as well. Just because the Ayatollah were to be displaced.

1158
00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:05,020
S7: Let's just say that that doesn't mean you're going to

1159
00:59:05,020 --> 00:59:09,780
S7: get some benign or somewhat holy regime in there, right? Lana,

1160
00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:10,980
S7: this thing's tangled.

1161
00:59:11,700 --> 00:59:14,020
S14: It is very tangled. One person is not going to

1162
00:59:14,020 --> 00:59:17,460
S14: cut it. His success has already been almost formally named

1163
00:59:17,460 --> 00:59:20,260
S14: and is lined up his son. Um, you'd need to

1164
00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:23,900
S14: take out a whole chunk of leadership to really weaken them. Uh,

1165
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:27,400
S14: you know what, Carl? Like you say, there's so much

1166
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,080
S14: to this politically that is probably beyond us. As believers,

1167
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,600
S14: we continue to pray God's will. We continue to play

1168
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,160
S14: his glory, his intervention. We pray for the people to

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00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,920
S14: have to stand in courage and to be comforted at

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00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,360
S14: this time. You know, you're talking about 1 or 2 weeks.

1171
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,400
S14: I can't see things staying like this for much longer.

1172
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,480
S14: Every day the situation is evolving, and certainly within months

1173
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,520
S14: I expect to see a significant change.

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S7: Lonnie, you've been an encouragement here to us today in

1175
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,360
S7: a in a sad way, but a beautiful way. And

1176
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,720
S7: we're grateful for you. And we're going to get you

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01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,280
S7: to pop in here. We're going to get you in

1178
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,680
S7: here weekly. Until this thing, I don't even know what

1179
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,360
S7: this thing's going to do. You know what I mean.

1180
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:12,000
S3: Right?

1181
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,680
S7: It's horrific. And what is this thing going to do?

1182
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,880
S7: But we're we're grateful for you, grateful for the pipeline

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01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,760
S7: of information that you have with our brothers and sisters

1184
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S7: in Iran. Um, What's the most heartwarming story? We need

1185
01:00:25,740 --> 01:00:27,980
S7: a good one coming out of this mess here. Lana,

1186
01:00:27,980 --> 01:00:29,540
S7: what's the coolest thing you've heard?

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01:00:30,380 --> 01:00:32,620
S14: Well, it's this. This man I was telling you about.

1188
01:00:32,620 --> 01:00:36,620
S14: This 40 year old man living no connection with any Christians.

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S14: No one's witnessed to him. He said he'd sort of

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01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:41,420
S14: had it on his mind for about a year. And,

1191
01:00:41,460 --> 01:00:44,140
S14: you know, in this climate, he decided to reach out

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01:00:44,140 --> 01:00:46,900
S14: to us. You know, they're monitoring everything. It's the highest

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01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:50,980
S14: risk time to be contacting a Christian organization. And yet

1194
01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:53,340
S14: he contacted us and said, can you send me a Bible?

1195
01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:55,820
S14: Can you teach me about Jesus? I want to grow.

1196
01:00:55,860 --> 01:00:57,820
S14: I want to tell my family, I want to learn

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S14: about this. And then afterwards, when he got through a

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S14: couple of calls, this is the quote they sent me.

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S14: He said, I feel the light. I was confused before.

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01:01:05,540 --> 01:01:08,340
S14: My nerves were a mess. But I've been repeating the

1201
01:01:08,340 --> 01:01:11,260
S14: prayers you've been sending me, and something powerful is happening

1202
01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:13,380
S14: in my heart. I want every part of me to

1203
01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:15,380
S14: continue to call out to Christ.

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S5: Wow.

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01:01:17,420 --> 01:01:21,890
S7: You know what strikes me here? Ally is being gone

1206
01:01:21,930 --> 01:01:24,370
S7: out of here in Kenya for a week. I had

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01:01:24,370 --> 01:01:26,970
S7: a lot of extended time to pour through the word,

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S7: and one of the common threads that I saw is

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S7: that God, Jesus was never rejected by people who truly

1210
01:01:34,130 --> 01:01:40,450
S7: feared and sought God. Jesus was received by those. And

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S7: so if we can pray that there would be an

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S7: awareness that there is a holy, good, just God, and

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S7: that that will be seen, and then these visions of

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S7: Jesus that they're still getting in Iran and all these things. Lana,

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S7: that that'll be great. We're going to get this link

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01:01:56,210 --> 01:01:58,370
S7: out to everyone here. Ali, what's that link again?

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01:01:58,490 --> 01:01:59,570
S15: Yeah, this is to the website.

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S3: And then also is a prayer guide if you want

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01:02:01,690 --> 01:02:04,570
S3: to partner as you're hearing this from Lana, but also

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S3: updates on their website, it'll tell you specifically how you

1221
01:02:07,610 --> 01:02:11,010
S3: can be joining them in prayer. Just text transform to

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S3: 800 555 7898 the ministry transform Iran. Just text transform

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S3: to 800 555 7898.