WEBVTT - Hour 1: Bible Q & A with Steven Sanchez

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<v S1>Do you have a question about the Bible? Do you

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<v S1>ever wonder what we can know and understand about God?

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<v S1>Or maybe you're struggling with an issue in your walk

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<v S1>with the Lord and would just like some biblical guidance?

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<v S1>If so, then you've come to the right place. Hello friends.

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<v S1>Welcome to Open Line with Michael Riedel. Moody Radio's Bible

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<v S1>study Across America. If you have a Bible question, the

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<v S1>phone number to call today is 87754836758775483675. I'm Doctor Steven Sanchez,

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<v S1>and I'm sitting in for Michael, who is away leading

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<v S1>a trip to Greece and Turkey. I'm a professor of

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<v S1>Bible at the Moody Bible Institute in Chicago, where I

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<v S1>teach on the faculty with Michael. And we're coming to

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<v S1>you live across the many stations of Moody Radio. And

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<v S1>today we're sitting around the radio kitchen table answering your

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<v S1>questions about the Bible, God, and the spiritual life. If

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<v S1>you have a question, the phone number to call is (877) 548-3675.

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<v S1>You can also send your questions through our open line website.

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<v S1>Open Line radio.org. Just fill out the Ask Michael a

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<v S1>question section and send us your Bible question. Open line radio.org.

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<v S1>Again that phone number is (877) 548-3675. I hope you've got

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<v S1>your cup of coffee poured and your Bible open, because

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<v S1>we're getting ready to study the scriptures together. As we begin,

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<v S1>let me take a minute and consider that it's September

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<v S1>and here at the Moody Bible Institute, that means one

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<v S1>thing students are back on campus. Let me tell you,

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<v S1>it's a joyous thing to see classrooms full of young

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<v S1>men and women eager to study the Bible and be

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<v S1>trained to serve. That's what we do in our undergraduate

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<v S1>and graduate programs. We train men and women to serve

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<v S1>the Lord wherever they are. We want them to live

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<v S1>on mission for Christ, no matter how they make a living.

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<v S1>Of course, as our students study, they have questions, and

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<v S1>it's my job as one of the professors, along with

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<v S1>my colleagues to help answer those questions. You know, frequently

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<v S1>I run into an attitude that suggests some of them

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<v S1>have been trained to think that it's wrong to ask questions.

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<v S1>That is, if you ask questions, it says something might

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<v S1>be wrong with your spiritual life, or that asking questions,

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<v S1>especially difficult questions about the Bible or God, indicates maybe

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<v S1>you lack faith. I'd like to suggest to you this

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<v S1>morning that this attitude is incorrect. In fact, the Bible

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<v S1>demonstrates that godly men and women often ask questions. And

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<v S1>in fact, God created a world where asking questions is inevitable.

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<v S1>There's no way a Christian can grow or progress in

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<v S1>their spiritual life with without some measure of curiosity. We

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<v S1>have to acknowledge, of course, that we won't always get

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<v S1>an answer for every question we ask, and it is

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<v S1>possible to ask questions in a way that is neither

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<v S1>helpful for you or for the people around you, and

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<v S1>in some cases is not honoring to God. But the

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<v S1>idea of asking questions is a biblical concept. Question themselves

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<v S1>are not bad things. Let's take a minute to consider

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<v S1>what the Bible has to say about questioning. We have

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<v S1>to begin by recognizing we are created beings. We are

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<v S1>creatures specially made in the image of God. But we

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<v S1>are created and that means we will not have total

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<v S1>and complete knowledge of everything in life. God has withheld

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<v S1>much information from us and it has been that way

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<v S1>since the beginning. Adam and Eve knew that God loved them.

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<v S1>They saw the world he created, but they did not

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<v S1>know everything. Therefore, it's safe to assume that if they

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<v S1>wanted to know something, they would have had to ask.

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<v S1>And we can see this pattern at work throughout the

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<v S1>lives of all major Bible characters. Men and women do

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<v S1>not have total knowledge, so they have to ask. Sometimes

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<v S1>they ask and receive answers with no rebuke. Think about it.

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<v S1>When God promised Abraham the land of Canaan, he asked,

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<v S1>O Lord, how am I to know that I will

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<v S1>possess it? God doesn't rebuke him, but gives him a covenant. Gideon, please, Lord,

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<v S1>how can I save Israel? God answers him. Mary herself

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<v S1>asks an important question after the angel Gabriel told her

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<v S1>she would bear a child. How can this be? And

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<v S1>she received an answer. So I think we can safely

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<v S1>say that asking questions does not have to be sinful.

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<v S1>It's a sign of being human. That said, if the

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<v S1>attitude behind the question is not genuine, then a question

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<v S1>can be a sign that something is amiss. Again, back

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<v S1>to the Bible. In the garden, the serpent began his

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<v S1>attack on Eve with a question Did God actually say

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<v S1>that was not an honest question? It was an attempt to.

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<v S2>Deceive.

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<v S1>Or in the Psalms, the writer confesses his longing for

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<v S1>God to deliver him, while his enemies taunt him with

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<v S1>the question where is your God? These opponents were not

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<v S1>honestly seeking an answer. They were mocking him. Finally, although

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<v S1>his question sounded innocent enough, Zechariah was rebuked by the

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<v S1>angel Gabriel when he did not believe the words that

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<v S1>God said. God knew. His question did not stem from

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<v S1>genuine faith, but a skeptical heart. At times, questions can

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<v S1>become problematic when they come from a heart that is

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<v S1>resisting the Holy Spirit, or reduces to be humble and

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<v S1>acknowledge that God is not obligated to give us every

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<v S1>answer we want. Let me conclude by saying, the Lord

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<v S1>knows we do not have total knowledge and that we

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<v S1>will have questions. This is why he provided teachers for

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<v S1>the church. This is why he provided a printed Bible.

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<v S1>This is why he provided professors and scholars and pastors.

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<v S1>You can have somewhere to go and get your questions answered.

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<v S1>The Bible is a big book and godly Christians have

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<v S1>many questions. If you detect that you're questioning results in

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<v S1>hostility to God, or if you detect that your question

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<v S1>stems from an overly skeptical spirit, then you should ask yourself,

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<v S1>why is this so? Why am I wondering so deeply

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<v S1>about this? Is an answer even possible? Is my question

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<v S1>actually a form of doubt? Do I have a skeptical

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<v S1>spirit that demands more of God than he is willing

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<v S1>to give? Asking questions is expected, and it's our hope

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<v S1>that your questions draw you closer to Christ. With that said,

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<v S1>we welcome your questions this morning. The number to call

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<v S1>is (877) 548-3675. Let's go to Dan in Scottsdale, Arizona listening

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<v S1>on Wmbi online. Dan, what's your question today?

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<v S3>Yes. In revelations, uh, they talk about a new heaven

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<v S3>and earth. I was wondering, could that be like a

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<v S3>new cycle for the, Um, you know, like the Bible.

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<v S1>Like a new cycle for God, starting everything over again,

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<v S1>creating new things all over. Yes, that's an interesting observation.

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<v S1>I think we the best way to look at that

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<v S1>would be God created once already. And the story of Scripture,

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<v S1>the narrative line of Scripture is not that he's necessarily

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<v S1>replacing everything that he already created, but that he's redeeming it.

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<v S1>He's making it new. Some things are going to be replaced,

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<v S1>but I don't think I would argue that God is

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<v S1>going to, for example, start creating a new race of

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<v S1>people or entirely new kinds of creatures. Rather, the theme

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<v S1>seems to be he's redeeming everything that he already made.

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<v S1>Why did it need to be redeemed? Because soon after

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<v S1>he created it, it was corrupted by sin. And we

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<v S1>have lived our lives, lived our existence underneath the curse

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<v S1>of sin. God's going to remove that, and everything's going

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<v S1>to be new in that sense. But I would not

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<v S1>argue that he's going to, for example, create a new

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<v S1>race of people or new types of creatures. Rather, he

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<v S1>would be redeeming the old ones. Does that help?

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<v S3>Okay. Thank you.

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<v S1>You're welcome. All right, let's go to Bonnie. Listening in

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<v S1>West Chicago, Illinois on WNBA. Bonnie, what's your question today?

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<v S4>Hi. My question has to do with one of the

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<v S4>items in Scripture when Jesus said in John 812, I

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<v S4>am the light of the world. He who follows after

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<v S4>me will not walk in darkness. Later on in John nine,

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<v S4>he seems to qualify that when he says in John

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<v S4>nine five, while I am in the world, I am

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<v S4>the light of the world. I was wondering if that

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<v S4>is a qualifier or if so, when would he not

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<v S4>be in the world? And what does the coming night

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<v S4>have to do with that in the context of John nine?

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<v S1>I think we have to interpret texts like this, and

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<v S1>the fact that in light of the fact that Jesus

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<v S1>was only here doing his ministry for a few years,

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<v S1>and while he was in the world, there were unique

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<v S1>things that were happening while he was around. While I'm

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<v S1>in the world, I'm the light of the world. I'm here.

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<v S1>Something special is happening, and it's unique to the incarnate

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<v S1>presence of Christ right there in that place. Uh, when

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<v S1>Jesus leaves, think about the consequences of that. I mean,

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<v S1>the disciples are distraught. When when is he coming back?

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<v S1>They stand there on the Mount of Olives. Is he

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<v S1>coming back? And the angel has to tell him. Hey,

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<v S1>he'll be back. Don't worry. But they were. They were

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<v S1>under great distress because his physical presence was gone. I

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<v S1>don't think Jesus is making a statement about whether he's

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<v S1>with them all the time. He's going to say later

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<v S1>in the Gospels, right, I'm with you always, even to

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<v S1>the end of the age. So Jesus is with us,

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<v S1>there's no question. And he is, in that sense, the

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<v S1>light of the world. But there was something unique going

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<v S1>on there at that time while he was walking this

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<v S1>earth and living among people and healing and and calling

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<v S1>them to himself. That was a special time that was unique,

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<v S1>such that we would identify a difference. Go ahead.

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<v S4>Because he also says in Matthew five that you are

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<v S4>the light of the world. And that would have to

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<v S4>be only as he is living within us.

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<v S1>Well, that's right, his disciples, who then believe him and

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<v S1>take that message to everyone else. They are functioning as

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<v S1>representatives for Christ, and in that sense, he they are

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<v S1>the light of the world. Some of these phrases, we

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<v S1>have to interpret them specifically in their context, and they

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<v S1>might mean something a little different in each place. Jesus comes.

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<v S1>He brings a message. He passes it on to believing disciples.

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<v S1>He leaves, they become his representatives, and they become light.

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<v S1>Are they exactly the same light that Jesus is? Well, no,

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<v S1>because they're not Jesus. But they do serve that function

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<v S1>as his ambassadors, his witnesses to anyone who's listening. Does that.

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<v S5>Help?

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<v S4>Okay, so the knife that he's referring to would be

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<v S4>his death. And the disciples just were not sure what

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<v S4>to do other than obey and wait.

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<v S1>That's right. They're going to obey and wait for him

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<v S1>to come back. They're going to follow his example, and

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<v S1>they're going to be witnesses of all that he's doing.

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<v S1>And we're left to do that, too, right? We're still

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<v S1>in that same phase. We are lights and examples for Christ.

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<v S1>Thank you for your question. Thank you so much, Steve.

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<v S1>You're welcome. All right. Let's go to Agatha in Cleveland,

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<v S1>Ohio on Wtxf.

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<v S6>Thank you. I, uh, recently, I, um, the apple was

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<v S6>a forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. I want

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<v S6>to know, is there still. I mean, I don't think

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<v S6>it would be, but it just bothered me. So can

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<v S6>we eat apples?

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<v S1>So, uh, the apple is not identified in the Bible

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<v S1>as the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. It's

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<v S1>never stated that it's an apple. I'm sure the Apple

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<v S1>industry is thankful for that because it's never stated. We

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<v S1>don't know what that fruit was in the Garden of Eden.

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<v S1>And so yeah, eat apples. Just make sure you wash them,

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<v S1>because sometimes they have pesticides on the outside and they

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<v S1>cover them in wax. And I like to take the

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<v S1>little sticker off. But you can you can eat apples.

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<v S1>That's fine. The the Bible does not identify that fruit

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<v S1>at all. It just says it was a fruit.

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<v S6>So we should thank Johnny Appleseed, huh?

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<v S1>You should. And the. And the apple industry. And there's

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<v S1>a there's a company in Israel. A fruit company in Israel.

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<v S1>The name of the company translated into English is in

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<v S1>the beginning, and their logo is an apple. And every

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<v S1>time I look at that, I say, come on, guys,

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<v S1>you're contributing to a misunderstanding. But yes, the fruit was

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<v S1>never identified in Genesis. And so feel free.

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<v S6>Feel free to eat before you ask that, because I

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<v S6>love them and I, I don't know, just recently, like

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<v S6>the last couple of days, I was like. And then

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<v S6>I listened to you also. I heard you. Thank you

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<v S6>for answering my call. You're welcome.

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<v S1>You're welcome.

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<v S1>Welcome back to Open Line with doctor Michael Melnick. I'm

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<v S1>Doctor Steven Sanchez, professor of Bible at the Moody Bible

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<v S1>but let's get back to your calls. Sam and Sam

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<v S1>in Missouri listening on w mbu. I think, Sam, you're

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<v S1>in Mississippi.

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<v S9>Hey. Yeah. That's right. Mendenhall, Mississippi. Great. So just to, um,

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<v S9>in revelation 1615. Um, sorry. That's my three year old

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<v S9>in the back.

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<v S1>Hey. Questions from the little ones. That's great.

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<v S9>Sorry. Um. In revelation 1615, uh, John is seems to

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<v S9>be quoting Jesus, and he says, behold, I am coming

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<v S9>like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake

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<v S9>keeping his garments on. Um, from my understanding, I believe

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<v S9>that the church will not go through the tribulation period. Um,

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<v S9>but this verse seems to be used in revelation three. Uh,

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<v S9>verse three. The analogy is like a thief. Uh, and

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<v S9>is being used in application to the church. Also in

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<v S9>first Thessalonians five, Paul uses it, uh, and he seems

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<v S9>to be talking to the church in Thessalonica. And in second. Peter, um,

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<v S9>the analogy, like a thief is used again. So I'm

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<v S9>just confused. Will the church go through the tribulation or, um,

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<v S9>because of the analogy, uh, like a thief or will

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<v S9>they be raptured? Is the analogy kind of a both

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<v S9>and or either or is what I'm asking.

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<v S1>I think the analogy here is a way for Jesus

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<v S1>to use an illustration to remind people to be ready

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<v S1>for the coming of the Lord. I don't think, especially

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<v S1>in the passage you've given us. Revelation 15 1615. I

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<v S1>don't think he's speaking about the rapture there. That's not

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<v S1>in view. The issue is stay ready. Are you going

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<v S1>to be ready? How do we keep how does Jesus

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<v S1>keep his disciples ready for the fact that he's going

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<v S1>to be gone for a while? And what happens when,

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<v S1>so to speak, the boss is away? You know, we

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<v S1>get a little lazy. We stop being so prepared. We're

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<v S1>not focused. And how do you illustrate that to people? Answer.

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<v S1>What's one time that people are never prepared for when

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<v S1>they wish they had been, and it's for a thief

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<v S1>to come steal their things? I grew up in Brooklyn,

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<v S1>New York City. It's a great place. There are times

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<v S1>when it wasn't a great place, and I remember dad

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<v S1>having to change the hood of the van to the

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<v S1>grill so that someone wouldn't come and steal the battery.

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<v S1>And if there were nights where he forgot, sometimes we'd

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<v S1>come out in the morning and the battery was stolen

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<v S1>and you'd say, oh, we should have been ready. I

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<v S1>think Christ the Apostles are using this analogy of a

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<v S1>thief to keep Christians on their toes. Be ready. We

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<v S1>don't know when he's coming. That's the key. I agree

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<v S1>with you. I think we're going to be raptured. I

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<v S1>think we're not going to go through the tribulation. But

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<v S1>it seems to me these thief analogies are really about

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<v S1>are you ready for Christ to come back? And Christians

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<v S1>will fuss about whether it's a rapture or he's just

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<v S1>going to come and set up something or not set up,

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<v S1>or we're just going to be in the end, they

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<v S1>fight about those things. I understand that, and that's fair.

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<v S1>But the real issue is, are they ready for when

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<v S1>Christ comes back at all? And so I look at

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<v S1>passages like this as reminders. Jesus could come at any time.

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<v S1>He could come at any time. Are you ready? Hope

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<v S1>that helps. Sam. Let's go to Greg listening in Grand Rapids,

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<v S1>Michigan listening on Wnib. Greg, how can we help you

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<v S1>this morning?

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<v S10>Hey. Good morning Steven. Good morning. Um, a couple of

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<v S10>real quick questions. Um, in regards to spiritual warfare, and

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<v S10>I believe I'm going through a period with spiritual warfare.

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<v S10>I lost my wife of 43 years in December of

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<v S10>2022 and just feel like I'm really being attacked. So

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<v S10>I've been reading books in regards to spiritual warfare, and

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<v S10>I find two different, uh, equations of the same topic.

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<v S10>One is saying that we can, here on the earth,

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<v S10>rebuke Satan in the name of Jesus Christ. I mean, just,

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<v S10>you know, again, rebuking him with your word. I find

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<v S10>others that I've read that say, well, you really can't.

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<v S10>You shouldn't, because then you're opening up the door to

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<v S10>Satan to actually more spiritual attacks. So how do you

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<v S10>feel about that?

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<v S1>I think that rebuking Satan is one of those things

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<v S1>that should be resisted. We have an advocate. Let Jesus

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<v S1>Christ do that. We come to Jesus and we ask

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<v S1>him for help. We don't see a lot of rebuking

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<v S1>by all the Christians all the time. In the New Testament.

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<v S1>We see Christ doing that. We see the disciples and

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<v S1>apostles doing that. We see even angels hesitating to do that.

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<v S1>And so it's it's it's not an advisable practice. Does

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<v S1>it open the door for more influence? I'm not sure

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<v S1>I would say that that's what's happening. But I would

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<v S1>say instead we have an advocate with the father. It's

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<v S1>Jesus Christ. Come to Christ and ask him for your

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<v S1>to defend you. Ask God to protect you. He's made

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<v S1>promises that he will defend you. And we turn to him.

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<v S1>We turn to Christ. We turn to the father for

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<v S1>the help we need. When we feel that Satan is

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<v S1>attacking and he does attack, I'm not denying that he attacks,

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<v S1>but I think the most powerful advocate. We have the

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<v S1>most powerful tool we have is not our own words.

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<v S1>It's coming to Christ who has defeated Satan already. Now

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<v S1>that does raise the question why am I feeling attacked

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<v S1>at all? And the Lord, the Lord allows things to

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<v S1>happen to us. He directs things to happen to us

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<v S1>so that we might turn to him. And so I

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<v S1>think that would be a better, a better process. Turn

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<v S1>to the Lord. Who is your defender? Does that help

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<v S1>as well?

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<v S10>Absolutely. One of the authors I've been reading was Derek Prince,

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<v S10>who actually advocates with using the power that Christ gives

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<v S10>you to rebuke Satan. So it gives me something consistent.

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<v S10>And again, I don't know if you know much about

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<v S10>Derek Prince, but he's written quite a few books on

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<v S10>that spiritual warfare.

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<v S1>I don't see I don't see an actual deliverance of

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<v S1>power from Jesus to us, in the sense that people

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<v S1>want to use it. I feel at times that these conversations,

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<v S1>these questions, sound like someone has maybe read a little

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<v S1>too much Harry Potter and they want to use the

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<v S1>power of Jesus like a wand. I have this power

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<v S1>now that I can dispense at my will. Um, I

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<v S1>just don't see that pattern in scripture so much. And

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<v S1>because it's not really clear, I think we have an

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<v S1>advocate and it's Jesus Christ, the defender. Let's come to him.

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<v S1>Listen to that psalmist. Lord, where are you? Come to

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<v S1>my aid. Defend me. Who can be a better defender

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<v S1>than the Lord? True, right? True. So stick with him.

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<v S10>Do you mind if I ask a real quick follow

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<v S10>up question?

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<v S1>Please go ahead.

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<v S10>Yeah. This is in the same vein as spiritual warfare. Um,

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<v S10>and I and I know that they're out there. My

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<v S10>wife actually went to one, and they're Deliverance Ministries, where

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<v S10>you actually go to either a church or a person's home.

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<v S10>They lay hands on you and they try to deliver

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<v S10>you from spiritual bondage. Uh, what do you think about

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<v S10>these type of deliverance ministries?

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<v S1>I think we have an advocate, Jesus Christ. I really do.

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<v S1>I think Christians need to learn. We need to learn

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<v S1>to turn to Christ. Turn to Christ, who is our deliverer.

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<v S1>Turn in the power of the Holy Spirit. He can

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<v S1>help us, and we need to learn to do that

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<v S1>on our own. Jesus Christ can do that. And if

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<v S1>you need a friend to be with you, to encourage

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<v S1>you to turn to Christ, Amen. Bring that friend. But

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<v S1>the idea that this one person has that power to

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<v S1>do that for you, I just don't see that in Scripture. Yeah.

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<v S1>Thanks for asking, Greg. Great questions. Yeah.

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<v S10>Is it is it Steven or Stephan?

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<v S1>Steven with a V, my mother would say. Yeah. Thank you.

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<v S1>There you go. Great to talk with you, Greg. Thanks.

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<v S10>You have a great day.

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<v S1>Let's go to Jim in Albany, Georgia listening on w

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<v S1>z q. Hi. Hi, Jim.

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<v S7>I have I have a question about Luke chapter 13

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<v S7>where Jesus is talking about people entering the kingdom. And

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<v S7>in verse 25, there are people who have already rejected

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<v S7>the king here in his ministry on earth, and they

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<v S7>want to get into the kingdom. And his answer to

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<v S7>them is, I don't know where you are from. Uh,

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<v S7>I'm reading currently from the new American Standard, the King James,

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<v S7>the new King James says, I don't know you where

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<v S7>you're from. And he says the same thing again in

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<v S7>verse 27. Uh, and New American Standard. I don't know

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<v S7>where you are from. And I think that's kind of surprising.

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<v S7>I understand that he might say, I don't know you.

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<v S7>That's basically what he says in Matthew. Uh, on, uh,

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<v S7>on the Olivet discourse. Uh, but then after rejecting those

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<v S7>who have rejected him as king, he rejects them on

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<v S7>the basis I don't know where you are from. But

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<v S7>then in verse 29, he says, they will come from

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<v S7>east and west. These are the people who do get

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<v S7>into the kingdom. They will come from east and west

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<v S7>and from north and south, and will be able to

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<v S7>recline at the table in the Kingdom of God. And

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<v S7>I just find it unusual, a little bit strange that

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<v S7>here in Luke, the rejection is on the basis of

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<v S7>where you're from.

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<v S1>So, Jim, I think so. I'm a Yankee and you're

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<v S1>from the South, right? So I'd love to say, well,

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<v S1>it means that Jesus has favorites. And obviously that's not right.

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<v S1>I think what Jesus is doing here is acknowledging this

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<v S1>master doesn't know these people. And one way to say

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<v S1>that you don't know these people is to use this

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<v S1>figure of speech to say, I don't know where you're from,

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<v S1>where are you from? It's another way of saying, I

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<v S1>don't know you. And then at the end, when he

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<v S1>refers to people coming from the east and the west

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<v S1>and the north and the south, what he means there

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<v S1>is people are going to come from everywhere. I don't

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<v S1>know you. You're local. You just walked right in. But

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<v S1>I don't know you. You're from around here. You don't

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<v S1>know me. I don't know you. But in the end,

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<v S1>people are going to come from everywhere to get into

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<v S1>that kingdom. I think he's just using this where you're

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<v S1>from as a figure of speech, a way of saying,

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<v S1>I don't really know you, you don't belong here. And

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<v S1>people from outside who are far away, they're going to

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<v S1>get in, they're going to be recognized, they're going to

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<v S1>be known, and they're going to recline at the kingdom.

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<v S1>And some who are last will be first and first

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<v S1>will be last. The ones who are close are out

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<v S1>and the ones who are from far away. They're going

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<v S1>to get in and remember the context in which he's speaking.

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<v S1>Many of his people would have thought, hey, I'm definitely in.

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<v S1>Thanks for your call. We're going to take a break.

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<v S1>I'm Steven Sanchez in the studio for Doctor Michael Dolnick.

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<v S1>Welcome back to Open Line. I'm Steven Sanchez sitting in

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<v S1>and Turkey. It's time for the mailbag segment where we

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<v S1>joining me with those questions is our producer, Trish McMillan.

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<v S1>Trish welcome back. Thank you. Tell us something about Michael

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<v S1>and crew. What are they up to? I wish I

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<v S1>was there.

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<v S11>I know they are. They are on the journeys of Paul,

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<v S11>trip through the Mediterranean. So kind of hitting Greece and

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<v S11>Turkey like you just said. And they're on day two,

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<v S11>I believe. And so if you want to see pictures

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<v S11>pictures that got posted from day one when they were

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<v S11>in Athens. Um, today they've been in Corinth, and then

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<v S11>they hop and keep moving on. And so Michael's gone

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<v S11>for the next two weeks. Um, you're here this week,

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<v S11>and Mike Weber's will be here next week answering Bible questions.

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<v S11>And I'm so thankful that you're here. You're doing a

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<v S11>great job.

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<v S1>You're you'll be in good hands next week. It'll be.

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<v S11>Great. Yeah. So we've got you covered. Um, while Michael's gone,

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<v S11>and then he'll be back at the end of the month.

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<v S1>I love these trips to the to these places where

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<v S1>people like to call it the Holy Land. I'm not

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<v S1>sure I'd call it the Holy Land or these places,

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<v S1>but Israel, Israel, Israel for sure.

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<v S11>For sure. Yeah.

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<v S1>Um, but Greece, Turkey, Israel, I've been to these places

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<v S1>many times, and I'm going to go to Greece in

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<v S1>March with students on spring break.

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<v S11>Have you been before?

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<v S1>I have been a few times, yeah.

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<v S11>So what is something in Greece that helped, I guess,

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<v S11>bring some of Paul's writings to life? Yeah.

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<v S1>You know, I think people forget, especially modern Americans, the

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<v S1>world we live in today looks more like the first

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<v S1>century world than ever before. And here's what I mean

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<v S1>by that. Not in terms of technology or anything like that,

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<v S1>but in terms of culture and social mores. Right? We

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<v S1>live in a world where Christ and Christianity is not

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<v S1>the only gig out there, so to speak. There are

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<v S1>other options, and people have other options, and we see

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<v S1>them living their lives in other ways, in other cultures,

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<v S1>other religions. That was the way it was in the

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<v S1>first century. You go to Corinth, you see the idols,

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<v S1>you see the altars, you see all the other options

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<v S1>that Christians had. And you realize, oh, yeah, being a

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<v S1>Christian in the first century was hard. Sounds like today

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<v S1>being in the first Christian in the first century might

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<v S1>have been confusing. Sounds like today people were leaving other

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<v S1>religions to come to Christ. Sounds like today. I really

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<v S1>appreciated that very much.

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<v S11>Yeah, lots of lots of other people saying, no, this

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<v S11>is the truth. This is the truth. Follow this over here.

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<v S1>The America of the 20s did not look as much

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<v S1>like the first century as it does today, which means

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<v S1>the Bible. The New Testament applies in even more ways

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<v S1>than than ever before to our culture.

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<v S11>You mean the 1920s?

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<v S1>Did I say 19? What did.

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<v S11>I say? You said the 20s. I meant.

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<v S1>The 1920s.

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<v S11>No, I had a I had a conversation with my

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<v S11>husband the other day, and he was like, you know,

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<v S11>it's not like it was back in the 20s. And

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<v S11>I said, we're in the 20s. Do you mean do

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<v S11>you mean that old joke? No, I just. It surprised

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<v S11>me when he said that. I was like, wait a minute. No,

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<v S11>we're we're in the 20s. We just don't. The 20s. Anyway,

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<v S11>I was just clarifying.

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<v S1>People long for an older time when things were simpler. Yeah.

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<v S1>Guess what? Here we are in this complicated time, and

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<v S1>God has given us his word to speak to this

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<v S1>complicated time. Yeah. It's great.

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<v S11>And God is still changing lives. That's right. Through his word,

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<v S11>which we have. So our first question is from Carmen

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<v S11>in Illinois. She listens to WNYC, and she says that

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<v S11>the four Gospels, and I will add in the Bible,

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<v S11>were written to a different culture. What applies to us now? Um,

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<v S11>is it the Jesus and repent, you know, live for him,

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<v S11>work on sinning. That's what I believe. Should I change

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<v S11>how I believe?

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<v S1>Following on from what we were just saying. Yeah, it's

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<v S1>true that the Gospels were written to the first century. Um,

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<v S1>you might even say maybe people have heard that different

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<v S1>gospels were written to a Jewish audience. One was written

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<v S1>to more of a Gentile audience to deal with Gnosticism

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<v S1>and all the religions that are out there. Fair enough.

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<v S1>Those things are true. But I think we can grab

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<v S1>all four gospels and say the cultures that they were

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<v S1>written to back then were closer to one another than

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<v S1>they are today. And so it's appropriate to ask the question,

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<v S1>how much of that applies? Right. And I think what

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<v S1>she has listed there, uh, turn to Jesus. Repent. Live

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<v S1>for him. Work on sinning. Those are the basic principles

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<v S1>on not sinning. Those are the principles. How we live

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<v S1>those out in life is going to look different in

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<v S1>our culture today, in some cases than others. Right. I mean,

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<v S1>some sins are the same, whether you're 18, 20, 1920

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<v S1>or 1820 BC. Right. Don't steal your neighbor's wife. Don't

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<v S1>steal his stuff. Don't take the Lord's name in vain.

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<v S1>Like these are things that are transcultural, but other things

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<v S1>might be different depending on the culture that we live

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<v S1>in today. And they just don't apply. I mean, I

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<v S1>don't go to a temple today. I don't bring an altar.

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<v S1>I don't bring a sacrifice to an altar. And so

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<v S1>any commands that are culturally bound that way are going

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<v S1>to have to be adapted for living in the 21st century. Okay.

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<v S11>How do we figure out which ones are culturally tied

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<v S11>and which ones are kind of take precedence over how

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<v S11>we live?

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<v S1>We're going to do that humbly, because we are prone

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<v S1>to pick something that we like and impose that on everybody,

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<v S1>especially if.

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<v S11>It's easy for us, especially.

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<v S1>If it comes to us naturally.

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<v S11>Right?

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<v S1>Right. We're going to do that in community. I think

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<v S1>believers should make these kind of decisions in community, meaning

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<v S1>a church, a gathering of believers that know you and

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<v S1>you know them and you talk to each other. It's

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<v S1>not just you and the Holy Spirit in your closet,

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<v S1>but rather we interpret in our communities. And then we're

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<v S1>going to do it slowly and carefully because, look, we're

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<v S1>not perfect interpreters. And so when I decide I'm not

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<v S1>going to do this because it fulfills a principle that

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<v S1>I think I see in Scripture, I'm going to say,

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<v S1>all right, I need to have Christians ever done this before.

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<v S1>And if the answer is, oh, yeah, this has been

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<v S1>a long part of Christian tradition. Okay, that kind of

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<v S1>makes sense. If I just made this up last night,

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<v S1>I'm going to be very careful in deciding what I

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<v S1>should choose to obey or choose to not obey. Okay.

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<v S1>But most of the basic principles I think, are laid

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<v S1>down for us.

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<v S11>Okay. All right. Thank you. You're welcome. With that, Tony

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<v S11>in Alabama has been following Christ for 46 years. Um,

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<v S11>his church that he attends has is using Yeasted bread

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<v S11>for the Lord's Supper, um, which he has not been

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<v S11>able to take in good conscience. Because conscience, because of

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<v S11>what the Scripture teaches, it teaches you to use unleavened bread,

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<v S11>and that is historically what they've used. Um, and also

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<v S11>some of the connotations to what Levin signifies in Scripture,

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<v S11>meaning sin. Um, are there suggestions he doesn't want it

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<v S11>to be an issue in the fellowship he's going to?

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<v S11>So are there suggestions on how he might, uh, partake,

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<v S11>not partake? Like, how should he handle this situation?

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<v S1>I really respect this question because we all have our

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<v S1>own convictions, and being sensitive to how we hold our

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<v S1>convictions is is an important sign of maturity. I think

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<v S1>in the Christian life, it doesn't surprise me that this

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.310
<v S1>man has been following Christ for 46 years. Like, okay,

0:33:48.310 --> 0:33:50.620
<v S1>we can see that at work here. Some people hold

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<v S1>their convictions close to their heart, others hold them out

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<v S1>in front of them like a knife, and they poke

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<v S1>everybody around them. So, uh, good. Thank you, Tony, for that,

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<v S1>for that approach. Um, I would start by saying, I

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<v S1>don't think the Bible teaches that we have to use

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<v S1>unleavened bread. I don't think it teaches that. I think

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<v S1>it I think we see that happening.

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<v S12>Models that.

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<v S1>There's no question that that's what they did. But I

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<v S1>don't can't think of a scripture where Paul says, and

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<v S1>you must use or Jesus says, and you must use.

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<v S1>That's what they did. But is that a command for

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<v S1>us to obey? I would say it's not a command

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<v S1>for us to obey. Um, so that's number one. Number two,

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<v S1>be careful about this conviction because it can be divisive

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<v S1>as you've identified in your church, right? I mean, we

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:41.310
<v S1>do communion together. We're communing with the Lord. We're doing

0:34:41.310 --> 0:34:43.830
<v S1>this together. We're communing with one another. And so there

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<v S1>is a sense in which if people see you not taking,

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<v S1>is there a good reason, and then it provides an

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<v S1>opportunity to have a conversation about this and seeds of

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.520
<v S1>division get sown in. I think it starts with recognizing

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<v S1>I don't think the Bible actually teaches this. So here's

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<v S1>what I would do. I would say, okay, can you

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<v S1>invite your leadership to add a few pieces of unleavened bread,

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<v S1>some matzo crackers to the communion plate? I think that's

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<v S1>a real simple solution. Nowadays people add gluten free bread

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<v S1>and you can make your choice. And that makes sense

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<v S1>to me. Um, keep your conviction to yourself. I would

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.480
<v S1>say that's really important. Like, don't feel like you need

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.239
<v S1>to impose this on everyone else. It's yours. If the

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.040
<v S1>Lord has given this to you. Keep it to yourself.

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<v S1>Don't force. Number three, don't force it on other people.

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<v S1>And then recognize that it will be hard to hide

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.219
<v S1>the fact that you're not taking this. It is. Maybe

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<v S1>bring your own. I'm not sure I would want to

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<v S1>recommend that, but I don't necessarily think it's sinful. The

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<v S1>issue is don't let this become a source of division.

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<v S1>And maybe the simple solution is invite your leadership to

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<v S1>add a few pieces of matzo in the plate for you.

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<v S1>And that would be an easy way to do it.

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<v S13>Yeah. Okay.

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<v S11>All right. Thanks for that question, Tony. I hope that

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<v S11>that helps. Um, I think there are so many things

0:35:56.980 --> 0:35:59.529
<v S11>of conviction that it can be easy to make them

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<v S11>divisive in our churches. Um, and so, so I appreciate

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<v S11>the response that we can apply to lots of other things. Yup. Um,

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<v S11>Michael in Illinois listens to WNBA and wants to know

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<v S11>how did Christ's name evolve to Jesus? I thought I

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<v S11>had heard it was Yeshua, but I don't know how

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<v S11>it got from that through the different languages.

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<v S12>Sure.

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<v S1>Um, this is an issue of translation and how languages

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<v S1>pronounce things differently. Okay, so my grandfather's name is Jesus, okay.

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<v S1>And when I say that in non-Spanish speaking contexts, almost

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<v S1>everyone says to me, don't you mean Jesus? And I say, no,

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<v S1>we're speaking English, I mean Jesus, but if we're speaking Spanish,

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<v S1>then I mean Jesus. Language is pronounced the same words differently.

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<v S1>And so in Hebrew or Aramaic, Yeshua is the pronunciation

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<v S1>of Jesus's name Joshua. But as we move into Greek

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<v S1>and into Latin and into all the other languages that

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<v S1>we use, different languages simply pronounce that name differently. So

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<v S1>the question becomes, should I call him Yeshua or should

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<v S1>I call him Jesus? I think the answer is who

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<v S1>are you speaking to? We're speaking in an English audience.

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<v S1>We call him Jesus. Why? Because that's what we all

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<v S1>call him. Speaking maybe to a messianic community or a congregation,

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<v S1>you might use Yeshua. And it's different. And it's an

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<v S1>issue of what language you're speaking in. We all know

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<v S1>we're talking about the same person, okay.

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<v S11>And Christ is a similar thing, right? Because that would

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<v S11>be Messiah in.

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<v S1>That's right. Moshiach in Hebrew. But then Christos in Greek,

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<v S1>which then becomes Christ in English. Okay. And so we've

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<v S1>got just different languages translating names and pronouncing them differently

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<v S1>as we normally do across language. Okay.

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<v S11>All right. Thank you for that clarification. You want to

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<v S11>you want.

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<v S12>To do.

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<v S11>Do you want to do one more.

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<v S12>You want to go to the break.

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<v S1>No. Let's do number two. Do we have time for two.

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<v S11>Sure. Robin in Illinois listens to WLM in Luke 16 nine.

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<v S11>What does Jesus mean by unrighteous wealth?

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<v S1>Yeah, this is a tricky it's a tricky passage because

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<v S1>Jesus seems to be encouraging behavior that was unrighteous, right?

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<v S1>This guy's a manager. He's about to get fired, and

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<v S1>he wants to make friends so that they'll take care

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<v S1>of him when he has no job. And how does

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<v S1>he do it? He takes the master's bill and says, hey,

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<v S1>you owe 50. Write down 30. He just gave him

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<v S1>a discount, right? So the idea is when he leaves,

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<v S1>everybody's going to take care of him, right? I think

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<v S1>it's important to recognize Jesus is not encouraging dishonesty. He says,

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<v S1>I tell you, make friends for yourselves by means of

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<v S1>their unrighteous money, so that when it fails, they may

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<v S1>welcome you into your eternal dwellings. I think he's praising

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<v S1>the man's creativity. He's praising the man's initiative and resourcefulness,

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<v S1>interest and guaranteeing making sure that his future will be secure.

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<v S1>And for Jesus listeners, the point would have been make

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<v S1>sure your future is secure. How do you make future?

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<v S1>How do you make sure your future is secure? Turn

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<v S1>to Christ. Turn to Christ. Believe the gospel. That's what

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<v S1>he's encouraging. They're not encouraging you to pad your time

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<v S1>sheet or cheat on your taxes. He's not encouraging that.

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<v S1>He's encouraging. This man did whatever it took to make

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<v S1>sure his future was secure. What are we doing? And

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<v S1>our answer is we're looking to Christ. And when we

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<v S1>proclaim the gospel, we're telling others, hey, turn to Christ.

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<v S1>That's how you make your future secure.

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<v S11>And that is as simple as believing that Jesus was

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<v S11>sent as a baby to live the perfect life that

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<v S11>we couldn't because we're sinners. He died for our sins

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<v S11>on the cross. Was buried, rose on the third day

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<v S11>proving he was God. And you just have to trust

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<v S11>in him.

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<v S12>Believe the gospel.

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<v S1>Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures is

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<v S1>what we see in the book of acts. Yep. Believe

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<v S1>the gospel. It's as simple as that.

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<v S12>All right.

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<v S11>Thank you for that.

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<v S12>Good questions.

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<v S11>Thank you. Thank you. If you have a question for

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<v S1>Welcome back to Open Line. I'm Doctor Steven Sanchez, professor

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<v S1>of Bible at the Moody Bible Institute, in the studio

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<v S1>for Doctor Michael Radonich, who is on the moody journeys

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<v S1>of Paul Tripp. He'll be back in two weeks. Until then,

0:41:25.100 --> 0:41:28.339
<v S1>let's go straight to your calls. Robert in Cleveland listening

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<v S1>on w CRF. How can I help you today?

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<v S15>Yes, Steven, thank you for answering my call. I have

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<v S15>an identity issue than a Christian. Most of my life.

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<v S15>But I have an identity, uh, with something in my life.

0:41:43.730 --> 0:41:46.250
<v S15>Or should I say a number of things? Knowing how

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<v S15>basically how one should live versus where one should not live.

0:41:51.469 --> 0:41:55.910
<v S15>And my question is, is that my loving football, baseball

0:41:55.940 --> 0:41:59.060
<v S15>and basketball and wanting to watch them, could that become

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<v S15>a sign of me putting God, I mean, putting idols

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<v S15>before God. That's where I'm at with that.

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<v S1>So let me ask you a question. Do you ever

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<v S1>leave church to go catch the football game?

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<v S16>No.

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<v S1>All right. Do you avoid spiritual things because the time

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<v S1>has been taken up with watching a baseball game?

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<v S15>I probably have, but I can't say it happened more recently. It's.

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<v S1>It's an important question. And what I'm basically asking is,

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<v S1>to what extent do the things you love crowd out

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<v S1>the spiritual things that are more important? Does that make sense?

0:42:34.430 --> 0:42:37.430
<v S1>See how that works? Yes. What I'm asking there is. Wow.

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<v S1>You know, if you if you follow the news and

0:42:39.469 --> 0:42:42.050
<v S1>you check the score. Aaron judge hit another home run

0:42:42.050 --> 0:42:45.200
<v S1>last night. It was a grand slam. That's one thing. Uh,

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.680
<v S1>when I'm ditching out of church early, avoiding conversation, I'm.

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.620
<v S1>I'm not reading my Bible. I'm not praying. I'm not

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<v S1>serving because these other things are taking up more time

0:42:55.310 --> 0:42:57.770
<v S1>in my life than I think we should. We should

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<v S1>consider that that might be an issue. And it doesn't

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<v S1>just have to be sports. All right, let's not pick

0:43:01.780 --> 0:43:06.280
<v S1>on the sports people. For others, it's investing. It's their money. Ready?

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<v S1>I'm going to say this one. This one might get

0:43:07.630 --> 0:43:10.810
<v S1>me in trouble. For others, it might be their children.

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<v S1>I mean, they they dote on them to an extent

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<v S1>that they too, can become an idol. C.S. Lewis wrote

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<v S1>about this in The Great Divorce. A great example of

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<v S1>maybe it's just a little too much love for some

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<v S1>of these other things that are not as important as

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<v S1>the Lord himself. And there's no rule ten minutes, five minutes,

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<v S1>two hours. Should I ever go to a game? Should

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<v S1>I never go to a game? But I like the

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<v S1>way you began this question with it's an identity. It

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<v S1>can become an identity issue. And when I identify with

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<v S1>my hobbies, whatever they are, I love to go backpacking

0:43:41.380 --> 0:43:43.570
<v S1>and hiking and all that sort of thing. When that

0:43:43.570 --> 0:43:47.620
<v S1>becomes my identity more than Christ and people know it.

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<v S1>I think we might say, yeah, that's something to be addressed.

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<v S1>What do you think?

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<v S15>I thank you very much for addressing that. I feel

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<v S15>somewhat the same way. Thank you very much.

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<v S1>You're welcome. Thank you. Robert, Let's go to Santiago in

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.210
<v S1>Tennessee listening on w FCM.

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<v S17>Yes. Hi. Hi.

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<v S1>What's your call today? What's your question?

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<v S17>My question is, Steve, is that, um. I know that

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<v S17>the heart is very important, but why the heart is

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<v S17>so important to God? Because, I mean, there's a lot

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<v S17>of passages in the Bible that talks about the heart,

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<v S17>but why the heart is so important? I mean, we

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<v S17>have a human heart, of course, the flesh, the heart

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<v S17>that we have inside our body, but the heart for God.

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<v S17>Why is so important? Because, um, and I believe it's

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<v S17>Psalm 37 says, delight yourself also in the Lord, and

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<v S17>he shall give you the desires of your heart. But

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<v S17>every time that we desire something is something like from

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<v S17>this world or something from the spiritual world. But that's

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<v S17>why this main reason, uh, because sometimes we worship him

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<v S17>with our lips. But he says that our heart is

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<v S17>so far from him because even though we worship with

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<v S17>our lips. But why did he say that our heart

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<v S17>is so far from him?

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<v S1>Because the heart is the source of our intellect, our will.

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<v S1>In the Old Testament they would have used a different

0:45:11.500 --> 0:45:13.960
<v S1>organ for that. But as we move into the as

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<v S1>we as we think about where we get our ideas from,

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<v S1>our motivations, the heart functions metaphorically as the source of

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<v S1>those things. I'm thinking specifically of Proverbs 423 above all else,

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<v S1>guard your heart, for from it flows everything the course

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<v S1>of your life, the springs of your life. This is

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<v S1>the core of who we are. And nowadays we would

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<v S1>think about that not physically so much, but our mind,

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<v S1>what we think, what we say, what we do. If

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<v S1>we get corrupted at the heart, at the source level,

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<v S1>that's going to affect everything, right? If we get corrupted

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<v S1>in the heart, the rest of the physical body falls apart. Well,

0:45:50.620 --> 0:45:55.569
<v S1>spiritually speaking, if the heart is left unguarded and becomes corrupted,

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<v S1>then that's going to affect all the rest of our lives.

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<v S1>It's an important issue. We're not always careful. Thank you

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<v S1>for your question. Well, that's our first hour. I hope

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<v S1>you found that helpful. Isn't it great to dig into

0:46:06.230 --> 0:46:08.990
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