WEBVTT - Messiah’s Seven Congregations 0:00:08.100 --> 0:00:11.760 Why do so many of us evangelicals ignore or minimize 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.820 the Jewishness of the New Covenant? How does that impact 0:00:14.820 --> 0:00:17.640 the way we view the end times? And where does 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.400 the American church fit into all of this? Those are 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.850 big questions with important answers. We'll dig into them. Coming 0:00:23.850 --> 0:00:26.820 up today on the land and the book. Plus, we'll 0:00:26.820 --> 0:00:28.770 make you the smartest kid on the block as you 0:00:28.770 --> 0:00:32.550 join us for Bible questions and Charlie's answers. That's all 0:00:32.550 --> 0:00:34.650 ahead on our program. Again, we call it the Land. 0:00:34.650 --> 0:00:36.240 In the book, our host is the one and only 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:40.620 doctor Charlie Dyer, Middle East expert, author, conference speaker. I'm 0:00:40.620 --> 0:00:43.290 John Jaeger and Charlie. Many people wonder, how do I 0:00:43.290 --> 0:00:46.650 share the gospel with my Jewish friend? It's a good question. 0:00:46.650 --> 0:00:50.190 And the question, though, recognizes the need that we have 0:00:50.190 --> 0:00:54.090 for a sensitive approach to sharing with Jewish people. Yeah, John. 0:00:54.090 --> 0:00:54.930 And that's why our friends. 0:00:54.930 --> 0:00:58.110 At Life in Messiah want to help answer that question. 0:00:58.110 --> 0:01:00.750 They put together a series of helpful articles on how 0:01:00.750 --> 0:01:04.470 you can share the good news with Jewish people around you. 0:01:04.500 --> 0:01:10.200 You'll learn about Jewish cultural sensitivities, how anti-Semitism affects Jewish evangelism, 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:14.790 the importance of messianic prophecy, and more. To access the articles, 0:01:14.790 --> 0:01:18.750 visit Life in Messiah. Org click on the Moody Radio 0:01:18.750 --> 0:01:21.959 logo and sign up. You'll receive the articles to equip 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.020 you with practical ways to share the good news with 0:01:25.020 --> 0:01:28.560 Jewish people around you or online. Again, click on the 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:32.880 moody radio icon at Life in messiah.org. 0:01:33.330 --> 0:01:36.690 Well, as the war between Israel and Hamas continues, two 0:01:36.690 --> 0:01:40.950 key questions remain unchanged. First, what was Hamas trying to 0:01:40.950 --> 0:01:44.280 achieve by starting a war and then continuing to fight 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.610 even as Gaza is being decimated? And second, why didn't 0:01:47.610 --> 0:01:50.700 Hezbollah or Iran do more to aid Hamas? Or are 0:01:50.700 --> 0:01:53.670 we just now maybe starting to see that take place? 0:01:53.850 --> 0:01:56.070 Well, the one key thing we need to remember is 0:01:56.070 --> 0:01:59.340 that Hamas is driven by its religious beliefs. All the 0:01:59.340 --> 0:02:02.190 land belongs to Allah. So Israel needs to be eliminated 0:02:02.190 --> 0:02:06.450 and replaced by a muslim government that will implement Sharia law. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.720 Now they knew their attack wouldn't topple Israel, but they 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.480 hope to shake Israel's faith in itself by capturing as 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.200 many hostages as possible, and then by hiding in their 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:20.280 tunnels and using Gaza's civilians as human shields. They hope 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.180 to cause more Israeli casualties, while also bringing about a 0:02:24.180 --> 0:02:28.350 worldwide condemnation on Israel. For all the casualties, and at 0:02:28.350 --> 0:02:32.250 least to some extent, their plans succeeded. A report earlier 0:02:32.250 --> 0:02:36.030 this week said the initial attack plan was originally prepared 0:02:36.030 --> 0:02:41.639 back in 2014, and then updated in 2021. While Hamas 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.989 might have underestimated the ferocity of Israel's response to their attack. 0:02:46.020 --> 0:02:50.730 They kept fighting, believing the hostages and worldwide pressure will 0:02:50.730 --> 0:02:54.480 eventually force Israel to stop and withdraw. And as long 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.000 as the leadership is still alive and in place, they'll 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.870 claim victory. Now, Hezbollah and Iran didn't jump in to 0:03:00.870 --> 0:03:04.019 help Hamas, at least to the extent Hamas hoped for 0:03:04.020 --> 0:03:08.520 two reasons. First. Hezbollah and Iran are Shiite Muslims, while 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:13.260 Hamas are Sunnis. There's an underlying religious conflict between the two. 0:03:13.290 --> 0:03:16.680 And second, Iran wasn't yet ready for an all out 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.339 conflict with Israel. Hezbollah could harm Israel with its rockets, 0:03:20.340 --> 0:03:24.270 but Israel could also demolish Hezbollah and much of southern 0:03:24.270 --> 0:03:27.150 Lebanon in an all out war. And Israel also has 0:03:27.150 --> 0:03:29.970 the means of hitting Iran. Iran doesn't want that to 0:03:29.970 --> 0:03:33.120 happen until it's developed nuclear weapons that it can use 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.869 as a threat for retaliation. That's why, at least so far, 0:03:36.870 --> 0:03:39.390 they've been engaged only enough to be able to claim 0:03:39.390 --> 0:03:42.600 they do support the Palestinians, but not enough to lead 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.900 to an all out war. However, the potential still remains 0:03:45.900 --> 0:03:49.650 for the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah to escalate should 0:03:49.650 --> 0:03:53.760 either side miscalculate. The US is trying to defuse the situation, 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.870 though it's unclear how effective those efforts will be now. Hopefully, 0:03:57.870 --> 0:04:01.470 we'll see a decline in provocation along Israel's northern border 0:04:01.470 --> 0:04:04.740 with Lebanon as the fighting in Gaza begins to subside. 0:04:04.740 --> 0:04:07.470 But events over the next few weeks could make all 0:04:07.470 --> 0:04:08.160 the difference. 0:04:08.190 --> 0:04:11.070 Charlie two quick follow ups one. It seems to me 0:04:11.070 --> 0:04:13.890 that if Hamas were to simply stop their violence, their 0:04:13.890 --> 0:04:17.039 fighting even now, they could swing more of public opinion 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.950 on their side. But they don't. They fight. Why? And two. 0:04:19.980 --> 0:04:22.679 What of the hostages? I'm hearing rumors that most of 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.620 them are pretty well dead anyway. That's that's a non-issue. 0:04:25.770 --> 0:04:27.480 A lot of them are dead. We frankly don't know 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.640 how many. And yet the other reports you hear is 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.909 that Israel knows where Sinwar, the main Hamas leader, is. 0:04:32.910 --> 0:04:36.450 But he surrounded himself with those hostages, so any hostages 0:04:36.450 --> 0:04:39.450 remaining alive would likely be killed if Israel tried to 0:04:39.450 --> 0:04:40.320 attack him. 0:04:40.620 --> 0:04:43.470 Well, last week you mentioned Israel's High Court decision to 0:04:43.470 --> 0:04:46.589 strike down the reasonableness clause inserted as part of their 0:04:46.589 --> 0:04:50.610 basic laws. The response thus far has been relatively mild. 0:04:50.610 --> 0:04:52.589 Is this because of the war or is something else 0:04:52.589 --> 0:04:53.580 taking place? 0:04:53.610 --> 0:04:56.430 Yeah, well, there was some public controversy following the High 0:04:56.430 --> 0:04:59.400 Court's decision, but it was more muted than might have 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.430 been expected. That's almost certainly due to the focus of 0:05:02.430 --> 0:05:05.820 the war in Gaza and the other existential threats that 0:05:05.820 --> 0:05:08.590 Israel is facing. For the most part, people on all 0:05:08.589 --> 0:05:12.010 sides of the political spectrum decided to remain focused on 0:05:12.010 --> 0:05:16.300 those greater threats, which right now is uniting the country. Now, 0:05:16.300 --> 0:05:19.540 that doesn't mean things aren't happening behind the scenes. The 0:05:19.540 --> 0:05:23.710 unity and statesmanship that characterized Israel right after October 7th 0:05:23.740 --> 0:05:27.160 has started fraying around the edges as the different leaders 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:31.120 and parties begin to switch into a campaign mode. Now, officially, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:36.550 elections aren't scheduled until October 2026, but virtually everyone in 0:05:36.550 --> 0:05:40.030 Israel believes new elections will take place this year, shortly 0:05:40.029 --> 0:05:42.940 after the current fighting ends. So you can be sure 0:05:42.940 --> 0:05:45.970 that the High Court's decision and the surprise attack by 0:05:45.970 --> 0:05:48.730 Hamas are going to be two of the central themes 0:05:48.730 --> 0:05:51.820 raised by parties on all sides. In a recent poll 0:05:51.820 --> 0:05:54.730 conducted in Israel, if elections were to be held today, 0:05:54.730 --> 0:05:59.110 Benny Gantz National Unity Party would garner 33 seats, while 0:05:59.110 --> 0:06:03.940 Netanyahu's Likud party would receive just 20. Another significant drop 0:06:03.940 --> 0:06:07.900 would be Lapid's Tea Party, which would drop from 24 0:06:07.900 --> 0:06:12.520 seats to 14 seats. But such polls can be very unreliable, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.210 especially when they don't account for other variables. And earlier 0:06:16.210 --> 0:06:19.930 polls showed former Prime Minister Naftali Bennett would receive 20 0:06:19.930 --> 0:06:22.839 seats if he formed a party and ran. But he 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.900 wasn't included in the most recent poll. And another poll 0:06:25.900 --> 0:06:29.710 suggests the former head of Mossad, Yossi Cohen, would garner 0:06:29.710 --> 0:06:32.200 up to 12 seats should he form a party and 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.710 choose to run. And that illustrates the major problem until 0:06:35.710 --> 0:06:39.910 things settle down and specific candidates and parties announce their intentions, 0:06:39.910 --> 0:06:44.380 polls are basically meaningless. Israelis will be focused on security 0:06:44.380 --> 0:06:48.400 and on finding some sort of national consensus and compromise 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.070 in the issues that were tearing the country apart prior 0:06:51.070 --> 0:06:53.830 to October 7th, but that will all start taking place 0:06:53.830 --> 0:06:55.300 once the war ends. 0:06:55.330 --> 0:06:58.029 Would it be your opinion that Netanyahu's slippage in those 0:06:58.029 --> 0:07:01.510 polls is a reflection of sentiment against his war policies, 0:07:01.510 --> 0:07:05.170 or is it just a fluke of polling or something else? 0:07:05.470 --> 0:07:07.990 I think it's a sentiment against the fact that he 0:07:07.990 --> 0:07:10.840 was in charge when Hamas gained power, when they, when 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.810 they finally launched this attack on Israel, was taken by surprise. 0:07:13.810 --> 0:07:16.780 And a combination that he's been in power so long, 0:07:16.780 --> 0:07:20.230 you build up a natural resentment to leadership at that point. 0:07:20.230 --> 0:07:22.930 So it's a combination of a lot of factors. But frankly, 0:07:22.930 --> 0:07:25.870 he probably is in some trouble as they would approach 0:07:25.870 --> 0:07:27.160 new elections. This is the. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.170 Land in the book from Modi Radio with our host, 0:07:29.170 --> 0:07:32.290 Doctor Charlie Dyer. I'm John Jaeger. We're looking at current 0:07:32.290 --> 0:07:35.860 events from the region. Egypt's new administrative capital now has 0:07:35.860 --> 0:07:38.530 residents moving in. What do we know about this city 0:07:38.530 --> 0:07:41.800 designed to eclipse Cairo as the country's capital? 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.890 Yeah, this new capital is rising in the desert 28 0:07:44.890 --> 0:07:47.710 miles east of Cairo. And the second phase of the 0:07:47.710 --> 0:07:51.220 project is just starting to get underway. Six months after 0:07:51.220 --> 0:07:56.020 48,000 government employees began transferring to ministries and offices in 0:07:56.020 --> 0:07:59.410 the first phase. The project was launched eight years ago 0:07:59.410 --> 0:08:03.610 and 100,000 housing units have already been completed. A major 0:08:03.610 --> 0:08:07.570 banks and businesses are scheduled to move their headquarters this spring. 0:08:07.570 --> 0:08:10.930 Each of the first two phases is projected to house 0:08:10.930 --> 0:08:16.360 1.5 million residents. Phase one will be fully completed by 2027, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.120 and work is already underway to draw up a master 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:23.860 plan to incorporate phases two, three and four. Each phase 0:08:23.860 --> 0:08:29.770 encompasses 65mi², which makes this a truly massive undertaking. Phase 0:08:29.770 --> 0:08:32.740 one has a six mile long park, an area known 0:08:32.740 --> 0:08:36.430 as Knowledge City, which is intended to support research, development 0:08:36.429 --> 0:08:41.109 and entrepreneurial ship. It also includes the Egypt Informatics University, 0:08:41.110 --> 0:08:44.170 which will focus on high tech. The initial price tag 0:08:44.170 --> 0:08:47.560 for this venture was put at $58 billion, but that 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.530 was before Egypt went through a series of economic struggles 0:08:50.530 --> 0:08:53.980 with declining income and a devalued currency. No one knows 0:08:53.980 --> 0:08:56.830 the expected price today, so this is a vision that 0:08:56.830 --> 0:08:59.680 will help transform Egypt and propel it into a future 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.650 high tech hub. At least that's their hope. Or it 0:09:02.650 --> 0:09:06.069 could be a boondoggle that will soak up Egypt's limited resources, 0:09:06.070 --> 0:09:09.220 only to be abandoned before it ever reaches its potential. Now, 0:09:09.220 --> 0:09:11.709 only time will tell which vision is true, but in 0:09:11.710 --> 0:09:14.979 many ways, Egypt's leaders are trying to recapture the sense 0:09:14.980 --> 0:09:18.370 of vision and grandeur that produced the pyramids, the Sphinx 0:09:18.370 --> 0:09:22.329 and former cities like Karnak and Luxor in days gone by. Now, 0:09:22.330 --> 0:09:24.760 for Egypt's sake, let's hope they can pull it off. 0:09:24.940 --> 0:09:28.150 A new Israeli medical tech company is working to reduce 0:09:28.150 --> 0:09:31.929 incidence of delirium in ICU patients. Tell us about this 0:09:31.929 --> 0:09:34.240 latest innovation from Amazing Israel. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.060 Yeah, many don't realize that up to 80% of ICU 0:09:37.059 --> 0:09:40.810 patients who are sedated and intubated end up experiencing delirium, 0:09:40.809 --> 0:09:44.980 including nightmares and hallucinations, which are caused by disorientation and 0:09:44.980 --> 0:09:49.420 lack of communication. An Israeli company called AI control is 0:09:49.420 --> 0:09:52.750 working to help reduce or eliminate the delirium and stress, 0:09:52.750 --> 0:09:54.760 and they're doing it through the use of a plastic 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.569 headset originally designed for use by those with ALS, Lou 0:09:58.570 --> 0:10:02.770 Gehrig's disease. The headset includes an infrared camera. It follows 0:10:02.770 --> 0:10:05.620 the patient's eyes, along with a bone induction headset that 0:10:05.620 --> 0:10:08.110 they wear for most of the day. And night, families 0:10:08.110 --> 0:10:10.210 and friends can send messages that are played to the 0:10:10.210 --> 0:10:13.450 patient several times a day. Messages are given to them 0:10:13.450 --> 0:10:16.209 telling what day it is, what time it is, and 0:10:16.210 --> 0:10:18.190 the headphones that allow them also to listen to their 0:10:18.190 --> 0:10:21.190 favorite music. They use the camera to track the patient's 0:10:21.190 --> 0:10:25.030 eye movements when they ask nonverbal responses to questions. The 0:10:25.030 --> 0:10:28.360 study is still ongoing, but their hope is that the 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:32.199 individuals intubated and sedated in ICU will end up with 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.650 a more positive experience and with less incidents of delirium, 0:10:35.650 --> 0:10:38.230 and that would definitely be a major contribution both to 0:10:38.230 --> 0:10:41.050 patients and to their families from amazing Israel. 0:10:41.290 --> 0:10:44.320 And that's a look at current events up next Messiah's 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.500 seven congregations. A look at the Jewishness of the New 0:10:47.500 --> 0:11:04.979 Covenant right here on the land. And the book. Why 0:11:04.980 --> 0:11:09.120 do so many of us evangelicals ignore or minimize the 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.450 Jewishness of the New Covenant? How does that impact the 0:11:12.450 --> 0:11:15.000 way we view the end times? And where does the 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.609 American church fit into all of this? Those are big 0:11:17.610 --> 0:11:20.190 questions with important answers, and we're going to dig into 0:11:20.190 --> 0:11:23.490 them in just a moment. Welcome back to the land 0:11:23.490 --> 0:11:26.819 and the book. I'm John Jacob, and here's a really 0:11:26.820 --> 0:11:29.819 important idea about sharing the love of Christ with a 0:11:29.820 --> 0:11:32.340 Jewish friend or neighbor. I want you to listen carefully. 0:11:33.210 --> 0:11:35.819 So you've got this Jewish friend and you've been hanging 0:11:35.820 --> 0:11:39.120 out together. The friendship's deepening and you can talk about 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:43.410 spiritual things. Is it possible to use prophecy in Scripture 0:11:43.410 --> 0:11:46.440 in a conversation? What do you think? Roy Schwartz have chosen? 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:47.819 People ministries. Your answer? 0:11:47.850 --> 0:11:50.550 Well, I would say prophecy is a great tool to 0:11:50.550 --> 0:11:56.040 discuss Israel, to discuss current events. You know that certain things, 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.490 I mean, you need to understand it patiently and and 0:11:59.490 --> 0:12:03.420 not do ISIS's. That is projecting what's going on, but 0:12:03.420 --> 0:12:05.970 to begin a discussion. Do you think the State of 0:12:05.970 --> 0:12:08.190 Israel has anything to do with God? Do you think 0:12:08.190 --> 0:12:11.340 God brought about the state of Israel and then go 0:12:11.340 --> 0:12:15.330 from there and then talk about Ezekiel and Daniel and 0:12:15.330 --> 0:12:18.660 the times of the Gentiles? You know, who knows where 0:12:18.660 --> 0:12:22.140 the conversation will lead? But prophecy especially focused on the 0:12:22.140 --> 0:12:24.870 Old Testament, never mind the New Testament, just focus on 0:12:24.870 --> 0:12:29.280 the Old Testament, the Jewish scriptures that will enable you 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.890 to get into conversations about the God of Israel. 0:12:32.070 --> 0:12:34.980 That's Roy Schwartz with Chosen People Ministries here on the 0:12:34.980 --> 0:12:39.650 land and the book. Sam Nadler is the president and 0:12:39.650 --> 0:12:43.610 founder of Word of Messiah Ministries. He's a Jewish believer 0:12:43.610 --> 0:12:47.750 in Jesus, and during 40 years in messianic ministry, he 0:12:47.750 --> 0:12:51.530 has focused on raising leaders who plant congregations and make 0:12:51.530 --> 0:12:54.020 disciples of Yeshua. It's good to have you back on 0:12:54.020 --> 0:12:55.280 the land in the book. Sam. 0:12:55.820 --> 0:12:58.280 Shalom, John, wonderful to be back with you. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.800 And let's zoom out for just a moment. What is 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.320 the true purpose of the Book of Revelation? 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.980 Well, it's confusing as it may seem to some people. 0:13:06.980 --> 0:13:11.030 The title is everything. The actual title of the book 0:13:11.030 --> 0:13:15.740 that was recorded by John the Apostle is the revelation 0:13:15.740 --> 0:13:20.870 of Yeshua the Messiah. It's about Jesus. It's about Yeshua 0:13:20.870 --> 0:13:25.040 the Messiah. And so we want to understand him in 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:29.330 order to understand the book of the outline of the 0:13:29.330 --> 0:13:34.550 book in revelation 119 has to do with three areas 0:13:34.550 --> 0:13:38.059 the things you have seen the past that John was 0:13:38.059 --> 0:13:41.809 was revealed to John, and revelation chapter one. Messiah's eternal 0:13:41.809 --> 0:13:46.730 glory revealed in heaven, and then things which are revelation 0:13:46.730 --> 0:13:53.750 two and three. Messiah's present sovereignty among the seven congregations. Uh, 0:13:53.750 --> 0:13:57.380 and then finally the things which will shortly take place. 0:13:57.380 --> 0:14:04.460 Revelation for 22, for the 22 Messiah's future victory as 0:14:04.460 --> 0:14:08.690 the lamb over the adversary. And so that is the 0:14:08.690 --> 0:14:12.170 general idea of it. Uh, we can go into more detail, 0:14:12.170 --> 0:14:14.689 but that's why I write books. You know, they can 0:14:14.690 --> 0:14:15.350 read the book. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.859 Well, in the book of revelation, the first several chapters 0:14:18.860 --> 0:14:23.420 mentioned the seven churches. And these seven congregations, of course, 0:14:23.420 --> 0:14:27.860 are representative of the spiritual condition of believers everywhere. And 0:14:27.860 --> 0:14:31.100 the messages from Messiah himself to those believers contain vital 0:14:31.100 --> 0:14:34.640 information for us. Um, you know, how deliberate do you 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.040 think it was on the part of of God to 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.940 make sure that I suppose every kind of church from 0:14:40.940 --> 0:14:42.920 the beginning of the church itself, up until this day, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.310 was included. Uh, throughout those particular passages. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.840 You know, I think that God seemed a future, you know, from, uh, 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:55.010 he sees all things at once. Of course he's omniscient. Uh, 0:14:55.010 --> 0:14:59.390 but let's say, well, knowing but also let's understand he 0:14:59.390 --> 0:15:03.110 sees our condition. And so it is. And if we 0:15:03.110 --> 0:15:05.540 can think of this, it is written to those with 0:15:05.540 --> 0:15:09.320 ears to hear. And so that's really the question will 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.020 people pay attention to what he's trying to tell us, 0:15:12.020 --> 0:15:15.350 that people need to return to their first love? Yes, 0:15:15.350 --> 0:15:18.410 they need to be faithful by faith in Jesus and 0:15:18.410 --> 0:15:21.440 his cross. And so this is actually the message for 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.840 everyone to listen to for sure. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.660 For sure. You know, we often decry the fact that 0:15:26.660 --> 0:15:30.110 we're not, uh, you know, theologically astute, sufficient to all 0:15:30.110 --> 0:15:32.360 the details and imagery of revelation. But the fact of 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.300 the matter is, those opening chapters have a ton of 0:15:35.300 --> 0:15:39.260 truth that is incredibly applicable. And we better have ears 0:15:39.260 --> 0:15:43.310 to listen. That said, how would you characterize the evangelical 0:15:43.310 --> 0:15:46.850 church today in America? Which church in revelation would you 0:15:46.850 --> 0:15:50.300 say matches us the most closely and why? 0:15:51.100 --> 0:15:54.760 Well, as you mentioned my position, I think this is 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.150 what the what it's actually teaching there is that during 0:15:58.150 --> 0:16:03.460 this age, all seven congregations represent the whole body of Messiah. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.510 That's why the word seven and seven congregations is used 0:16:07.510 --> 0:16:11.230 to speak of the completeness of it. But in any case, 0:16:11.230 --> 0:16:14.050 it's a the body Messiah. In the United States, it's 0:16:14.050 --> 0:16:19.210 a combination thereof. There are courageous and very faithful believers, 0:16:19.210 --> 0:16:23.950 just like Smyrna and Philadelphia. And then there are compromised 0:16:23.950 --> 0:16:27.760 and faithless believers like it's Sardis and Leo the Seer. 0:16:27.910 --> 0:16:30.970 But the question that everyone needs to ask, do we 0:16:30.970 --> 0:16:34.210 have ears to hear what the spirit is saying to 0:16:34.210 --> 0:16:37.180 all of us? For all of us are being called 0:16:37.180 --> 0:16:41.739 by the Messiah to be faithful and to demonstrate our 0:16:41.740 --> 0:16:44.440 faithfulness by proclaiming his good news. 0:16:44.650 --> 0:16:47.530 Sam Nadler is the president and founder of Word of 0:16:47.530 --> 0:16:52.990 Messiah Ministries, written many books, including Messiah's Seven Congregations, a 0:16:52.990 --> 0:16:56.020 reference to the seven churches that were addressed in the 0:16:56.020 --> 0:17:00.280 Book of Revelation. All right. That said, what course corrections 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:04.540 do you see right now? Uh, America needs to take 0:17:04.540 --> 0:17:07.389 from a church perspective. Where do you think we're weakest? 0:17:08.230 --> 0:17:11.980 Well, we actually discussed this quite a bit at our website. 0:17:11.980 --> 0:17:14.770 We have a lot of free material on the literature 0:17:15.100 --> 0:17:18.700 for our listeners to avail themselves of. If they go 0:17:18.700 --> 0:17:23.290 to Word of messiah.org, where the Messiah talk to see 0:17:23.290 --> 0:17:25.750 a lot of free downloads, a lot of helps as well, 0:17:25.750 --> 0:17:27.940 as well as the number of books we've written on 0:17:27.940 --> 0:17:30.760 this very subject. And so when we think about the 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:36.070 course corrections, we want to remember that not much has changed. Uh, 0:17:36.250 --> 0:17:38.830 you may not be old enough, John, but back in 0:17:38.830 --> 0:17:41.500 the day, I remember books written. We need to get 0:17:41.500 --> 0:17:44.949 the salt out of the salt shaker. 40 years ago, 0:17:44.950 --> 0:17:47.200 they were saying such things. The same needs to be 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.810 said today. We need to get the salt out of 0:17:49.810 --> 0:17:54.010 the salt shaker. We need courage in the pulpits that 0:17:54.010 --> 0:17:58.390 they might have an expectation of holiness and faithfulness for 0:17:58.390 --> 0:18:03.730 all the saints because of budget problems, most churches, uh, 0:18:03.730 --> 0:18:06.550 need more people coming in the front door than going 0:18:06.550 --> 0:18:10.060 out the back to. Many do not want to preach 0:18:10.060 --> 0:18:15.550 deal breakers. That is an expectation of godliness that results 0:18:15.550 --> 0:18:20.260 from dependence on the cross of Messiah. And so, of course, correction. 0:18:20.260 --> 0:18:23.380 They need to preach the blood of Yeshua and our 0:18:23.380 --> 0:18:27.399 total dependence upon him to live out the victorious life. 0:18:27.820 --> 0:18:30.970 Well, you know, some might say that's all well and good, 0:18:30.970 --> 0:18:33.910 but I'm just one person. What can I do? How 0:18:33.910 --> 0:18:36.459 can my little life help change the course of the 0:18:36.460 --> 0:18:37.780 church in America? 0:18:39.070 --> 0:18:42.489 God is at work in the heart of every believer, 0:18:42.490 --> 0:18:46.510 and I would suggest they demand justice from the wicked judge. 0:18:46.660 --> 0:18:50.290 In other words, you need to go to your pastors, 0:18:50.290 --> 0:18:53.740 and you have to insist upon the discipleship that will 0:18:53.740 --> 0:18:58.360 focus on the cross and be expressed to the Jew. First, uh, 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:02.679 you need to have your pastor expecting every believer to 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:07.060 live boldly for the Lord Jesus to proclaim the good 0:19:07.060 --> 0:19:10.690 news to the neighbors and friends. This is what must 0:19:10.690 --> 0:19:14.950 be taught, and therefore each person can make a difference. 0:19:14.950 --> 0:19:18.490 Each one reach one, then each one to each one. 0:19:18.490 --> 0:19:21.310 This the calling every believer has. 0:19:21.550 --> 0:19:24.550 So what happens if we fail to take this seriously? 0:19:24.550 --> 0:19:27.310 And this is a serious book, a serious conversation. 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.199 Well, certainly. Of course. We read in first John 228 0:19:32.410 --> 0:19:35.260 that there will be those who be quote unquote ashamed 0:19:35.260 --> 0:19:40.570 as his coming. They're living in unprepared life. They're living 0:19:40.570 --> 0:19:44.350 for the world. They're not living for the Lord. And 0:19:44.350 --> 0:19:47.800 so there are many nominal believers in churches who are 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:52.869 too easily welcomed. Uh, these tares will be left behind 0:19:52.869 --> 0:19:57.490 and be the apostate Babylon the harlot. And many genuine 0:19:57.490 --> 0:20:02.139 believers need to resist the influence of our modern culture. 0:20:02.140 --> 0:20:04.960 How do they do that? By faith in the cross. 0:20:05.140 --> 0:20:07.600 Submit to God. Resist the devil. He will flee you. 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.750 That submission to God is faith in the cross of Jesus. 0:20:10.750 --> 0:20:14.260 That's that's what it means to submit to God. And therefore, 0:20:14.260 --> 0:20:18.070 by trusting in the shed blood of the Messiah, uh, 0:20:18.070 --> 0:20:21.730 then we can actually declare to this world a good 0:20:21.730 --> 0:20:26.620 news message that they desperately need to hear. Otherwise, genuine 0:20:26.619 --> 0:20:30.910 believers living unfaithful lives. They may be saved, but they 0:20:30.910 --> 0:20:36.190 will go into heaven unrewarded. That's not God's desire. He 0:20:36.190 --> 0:20:38.740 wants to reward the faithfulness of his saints. 0:20:39.340 --> 0:20:42.280 You're right. This book is written to continue to show 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.979 not only the Jewishness of the New Covenant, but that 0:20:44.980 --> 0:20:47.919 the calling of God through the New Covenant and the 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:52.960 revelation of Yeshua the Messiah has not changed. And I 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.510 can hear some people saying, why does the Jewishness of 0:20:55.510 --> 0:20:59.619 the New Covenant matter that much? After all, Paul himself 0:20:59.619 --> 0:21:03.550 wrote in Galatians 328, there is neither Jew nor Gentile, 0:21:03.550 --> 0:21:06.880 neither slave nor free, neither male nor female, for you 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.790 are all one in Christ Jesus. How do you respond? 0:21:10.210 --> 0:21:14.410 Well, it's certainly true. I mean, regarding our salvation, there's 0:21:14.410 --> 0:21:17.320 only one way of salvation. That's what Paul was referring 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:22.030 to in Galatians 328. Uh, of course we're all one 0:21:22.030 --> 0:21:25.900 in the cycle, one family. But we want to remember that, 0:21:25.900 --> 0:21:29.170 you know, uh, that those who are males, you're still male, 0:21:29.170 --> 0:21:32.860 aren't you? And you, those who are female are still female. Orange. 0:21:32.859 --> 0:21:37.000 You and those who are Gentile are still Gentiles, and 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.060 Jews are still Jews. So it doesn't mean we've lost 0:21:40.060 --> 0:21:45.040 our wonderful diversity. It just means there's no division. We 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:49.030 have unity in the cross of our Messiah. But that 0:21:49.030 --> 0:21:55.330 being said, we want to appreciate the fact that what Jesus, 0:21:55.330 --> 0:21:58.270 how he lived and what he did. In other words, 0:21:58.270 --> 0:22:01.690 we follow him. We follow not just who he is, 0:22:01.690 --> 0:22:05.830 but what he did. We follow his example. Life is 0:22:05.830 --> 0:22:11.320 all about Messiah and how he expressed himself. And therefore 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:15.550 when he said, salvation is of the Jews, we want 0:22:15.550 --> 0:22:19.659 to appreciate that was in the past tense matter. Salvation 0:22:19.660 --> 0:22:23.199 is of the Jews, not was. And so we want 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:27.370 to appreciate the fact that we are called to be 0:22:27.369 --> 0:22:31.689 to the Jew. First, the apostle to the Gentiles told 0:22:31.690 --> 0:22:34.929 every believer that the good news is the power of 0:22:34.930 --> 0:22:37.389 God and salvation to all who believe, to the Jew 0:22:37.390 --> 0:22:42.340 first and equally to the Gentiles praise God. And so 0:22:42.340 --> 0:22:47.350 we need to understand God's program is to the Jew first, 0:22:47.350 --> 0:22:52.240 and therefore there needs to be an understanding of the Jewishness, 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:56.770 a new covenant, to proclaim and teach it clearly and accurately. 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.320 Some listeners hear us talking about the New Covenant, and 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.770 they say, look, I accepted Jesus as my Savior. I'm 0:23:02.770 --> 0:23:04.840 going to heaven. So why do I need to be 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:06.910 concerned with this New covenant stuff? 0:23:07.330 --> 0:23:10.750 Okay, well, the New Covenant speaks of the new relationship 0:23:10.750 --> 0:23:14.710 you have with God in the Messiah. Uh, in other words, 0:23:14.710 --> 0:23:19.480 you're not under the law. You're not under the authority 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:23.710 of the law. And the New Covenant tells us that 0:23:23.710 --> 0:23:26.200 we have a new life to be lived out. And 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:29.200 it explains how to live out that life as we 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:33.340 trust in the cross of Messiah, and therefore live out 0:23:33.340 --> 0:23:37.359 the new life we have in Yeshua, in Jesus. And 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.790 so we want to understand this new life through the 0:23:39.790 --> 0:23:42.760 New Covenant or New Testament as it's translated. 0:23:43.210 --> 0:23:45.160 You know, you used a phrase a moment ago that 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.940 caught my ear an unprepared life. How can we be 0:23:48.940 --> 0:23:53.139 absolutely sure we are ready for Messiah's return versus living 0:23:53.140 --> 0:23:54.790 an unprepared life? 0:23:55.420 --> 0:23:59.560 Well, I can certainly appreciate the importance of this matter. 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:03.699 I we only want our listeners to understand. The only hope, uh, 0:24:03.700 --> 0:24:07.870 now and forever is trusting in the blood of Messiah. 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:12.310 The shed blood of the Messiah is the only hope 0:24:12.310 --> 0:24:17.290 for now and forever. He is our blessed hope because 0:24:17.290 --> 0:24:20.109 of what he did for us in the cross. And 0:24:20.109 --> 0:24:23.590 if you're listening and have not personally trusted in Jesus, 0:24:23.590 --> 0:24:27.430 you may have gone through various Christian activities and ceremonies. 0:24:27.650 --> 0:24:30.650 But they cannot save you. You must trust in the 0:24:30.650 --> 0:24:34.220 shed blood of the Messiah, and then you will be 0:24:34.220 --> 0:24:35.659 ready for his return. 0:24:36.230 --> 0:24:38.600 Sam, would you lead us in a model prayer that 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:42.770 someone could could pray as they're listening to you? Praying? Who? 0:24:42.770 --> 0:24:45.350 Somebody who wants to receive Jesus could use that prayer. 0:24:45.380 --> 0:24:46.700 I'm going to invite you to do that. 0:24:47.730 --> 0:24:54.330 Lord, forgive me for my sins. See the blood of 0:24:54.330 --> 0:25:00.300 Messiah through his finished work. Cleanse me of all my sins. 0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:04.740 So I will be ready for heaven. Whether it's soon 0:25:04.890 --> 0:25:09.300 or just in the near future. Even now I trust 0:25:09.300 --> 0:25:14.040 wholly in the blood of Messiah. Thank you for loving me. 0:25:14.490 --> 0:25:20.280 Thank you for saving me. For in Jesus name I pray. Amen. 0:25:21.030 --> 0:25:23.669 Hey friend, if you just prayed that prayer along with Sam, 0:25:23.670 --> 0:25:26.580 we'd love to hear from you. And email is always 0:25:26.580 --> 0:25:30.000 welcome and particularly welcome from you at the Land and 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:36.479 the book@moody.edu. Sam Nadler has written Messiah seven congregations, a 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.330 link to that book and his website. When you visit 0:25:39.330 --> 0:25:43.800 the land and the book.org. Thanks for your time, Sam. 0:25:44.190 --> 0:25:45.210 God bless you all. 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.719 Shalom and Charlie Dyers popped back into the studio. I'm 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.030 looking forward to sitting down with him and getting his 0:25:51.030 --> 0:25:53.790 take on your Bible questions. That's just around the corner 0:25:53.790 --> 0:26:07.500 on the land and the book. Hope you're having a 0:26:07.500 --> 0:26:09.330 good day. This is the land in the book from 0:26:09.330 --> 0:26:12.510 Moody Radio. I'm John Geiger. If we never met before. 0:26:12.510 --> 0:26:14.369 And the guy you really need to know, that's Doctor 0:26:14.369 --> 0:26:18.300 Charlie Dyer, our host, who is a former pastor, a 0:26:18.300 --> 0:26:22.710 Bible teacher, and a guy who loves answering your questions. Charlie, 0:26:22.710 --> 0:26:25.200 I'm looking forward to our questions. I'm always amazed at 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.180 the variety that come in, aren't you? 0:26:27.180 --> 0:26:29.669 It is truly fascinating and I do love it. I 0:26:29.670 --> 0:26:32.820 love questions and it lets us know where the listeners are. 0:26:32.820 --> 0:26:35.040 So as I said in the past, it's like saying 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:37.440 sic them to a dog to ask me a question. 0:26:37.530 --> 0:26:39.870 Israel, of course, has been on all of our minds 0:26:39.869 --> 0:26:42.540 for months, many of us struggling with what to think 0:26:42.540 --> 0:26:46.500 and feel. But God's heart for the Jewish people remains unchanged. 0:26:46.500 --> 0:26:49.680 I'm so glad that he is faithful to his chosen people. 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.690 Yeah, and that's why our friends at Life in Messiah 0:26:51.690 --> 0:26:54.390 would like to help you better connect with this crucial 0:26:54.390 --> 0:26:57.780 aspect of God's character. They're offering their new book, Sharing 0:26:57.780 --> 0:27:00.929 God's Heart to Land. In the book listeners, this 30 0:27:00.930 --> 0:27:04.680 day guided reflection will help connect you with God's heart 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.830 for his precious people. The articles, which were all written 0:27:07.830 --> 0:27:11.400 by Life in Messiah staff, provide insight into Jewish life 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.280 and culture. They can help prepare you to share with 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.150 your friends the peace of Messiah that they so desperately need. Now, 0:27:18.150 --> 0:27:20.580 if you'd like one of these insightful books for yourself 0:27:20.580 --> 0:27:23.699 or as a gift for someone else, visit Life in 0:27:23.700 --> 0:27:26.790 Messiah org and click on the Moody Radio button there 0:27:26.790 --> 0:27:29.370 to find out how you can receive your copy. That's 0:27:29.369 --> 0:27:32.220 life in messiah.org. 0:27:32.369 --> 0:27:34.649 All right. Linda has the honor of being our first 0:27:34.650 --> 0:27:38.250 questioner today. She heard our discussion in a previous broadcast 0:27:38.250 --> 0:27:41.609 about whether John the Baptist telling his disciples to ask 0:27:41.609 --> 0:27:44.730 Jesus if he was the one is really what we 0:27:44.730 --> 0:27:47.040 think it is. She says, I believe it's quite possible 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.350 that John knew that he was about to be martyred. 0:27:49.350 --> 0:27:52.350 He sent his disciples to Jesus for their sakes, and 0:27:52.350 --> 0:27:54.990 when John was gone, they would know who to follow. 0:27:54.990 --> 0:27:58.950 After all, John began his ministry declaring that he must increase, 0:27:58.950 --> 0:28:02.280 while John must decrease. Your thoughts, Charlie? 0:28:02.310 --> 0:28:05.040 Yeah, well, I have to say the suggestion is possible, 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.770 but I do have some difficulties with it. The first 0:28:07.770 --> 0:28:11.010 is that John had already been telling his disciples about Jesus. 0:28:11.010 --> 0:28:14.010 You know, John chapter one John told his followers that 0:28:14.010 --> 0:28:16.199 Jesus was the Lamb of God who takes away the 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.750 sin of the world. Uh, in that same chapter, he 0:28:18.750 --> 0:28:21.540 told two of his disciples, one of whom was Jesus's 0:28:21.540 --> 0:28:25.080 brother Andrew, that Jesus was the Lamb of God. And 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.480 then as a result, they chose to follow Jesus. So 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.360 John's message seems to be consistent from the very beginning. 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.420 And yet, as you noted later in John three, some 0:28:33.420 --> 0:28:37.260 of John's disciples became concerned that Jesus's ministry was beginning 0:28:37.290 --> 0:28:40.469 to eclipse John's and John's response. He must become greater. 0:28:40.470 --> 0:28:43.800 I must become less so. Prior to his imprisonment, John 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.739 was absolutely clear on who Jesus was, and he had 0:28:46.740 --> 0:28:49.800 been sharing that with his disciples. But the second. Then 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.740 in Matthew 11, there are signs that it's John who's 0:28:52.740 --> 0:28:55.950 now having doubts. He's been imprisoned. And so he now 0:28:55.950 --> 0:28:58.469 asks his disciples to go and ask Jesus, are you 0:28:58.470 --> 0:29:01.680 the one who's to come? Or should we expect someone else? 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:05.280 Now that suggests the element of doubt is behind John's question. 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:08.040 And after telling John's disciples to report back to John 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:11.340 what they had seen and heard, Jesus then says, blessed 0:29:11.340 --> 0:29:13.890 is the man who does not fall away on account 0:29:13.890 --> 0:29:17.250 of me. That suggests to me that Jesus was encouraging 0:29:17.250 --> 0:29:20.880 these disciples to go back and encourage John himself by 0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.130 reporting what they had seen and heard. Now, within the 0:29:23.130 --> 0:29:26.100 context of these passages, it looks to me like John's 0:29:26.100 --> 0:29:29.040 imprisonment had caused him to doubt what he had earlier 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.580 affirmed so clearly. Likely it was because things hadn't turned 0:29:32.580 --> 0:29:35.130 out as he had expected, which we also see true 0:29:35.130 --> 0:29:38.640 in our lives. Often Jesus didn't rebuke John. He just 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.970 simply reminded John of the larger picture to encourage him. 0:29:41.970 --> 0:29:44.370 And I believe John was encouraged as a result. 0:29:44.700 --> 0:29:47.670 Gabe asks, have you heard about the book The Oracle, 0:29:47.670 --> 0:29:51.120 The Jubilee and Mysteries Unveiled by Jonathan Kohn? 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:52.739 Yeah, well, I have to start by saying I've not 0:29:52.740 --> 0:29:56.160 read the book. I am familiar with con's writings, and unfortunately, 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.280 I can't accept his approach to interpreting God's Word. I 0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.620 feel like he tries to read into the Bible rather 0:30:01.620 --> 0:30:05.070 than letting the Bible speak for itself. People are attracted 0:30:05.070 --> 0:30:08.250 to the idea that there are deeper, quote hidden messages 0:30:08.250 --> 0:30:11.400 in God's Word. This approach isn't new. It's been around 0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.250 a long time, but those trying to find that deeper 0:30:14.250 --> 0:30:17.190 meaning end up missing the mark by making the Bible 0:30:17.190 --> 0:30:20.489 say something God hasn't clearly said. It's always best to 0:30:20.490 --> 0:30:23.130 stick to the plain meaning of the text. When I 0:30:23.130 --> 0:30:25.350 was in Bible college, I learned a principle of Bible 0:30:25.350 --> 0:30:28.410 interpretation that has stuck with me over the years. It 0:30:28.410 --> 0:30:31.380 goes like this when the plain sense of scripture makes 0:30:31.380 --> 0:30:36.270 common sense, seek no other sense lest it result in nonsense. 0:30:36.330 --> 0:30:38.670 That's pretty good. You're listening to The Land in the 0:30:38.670 --> 0:30:41.640 book from Moody Radio, our host, Doctor Charlie Dyer, working 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.160 his way through a list of questions that have been emailed. 0:30:44.220 --> 0:30:48.390 I'll share our email contact info later. Todd asks, Does 0:30:48.390 --> 0:30:52.200 God promise a blessing to individuals and nations who help 0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.800 the Jewish people? Is this included in God's promise to Abraham? 0:30:55.980 --> 0:30:59.220 Well, I think God's promise in Genesis 12 three applies 0:30:59.220 --> 0:31:02.700 to both individuals and nations. The very first line is plural. 0:31:02.700 --> 0:31:05.760 That is, God promises to bless those plural who bless. 0:31:06.270 --> 0:31:09.360 But the second line then switches to the singular. The 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.840 one singular who curses Abraham and his descendants will be 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.150 cursed by God. So the message is true whether it 0:31:15.150 --> 0:31:17.910 applies to individuals or groups, and I actually see it 0:31:17.910 --> 0:31:20.490 in the rest of the Old Testament, applying to entire 0:31:20.490 --> 0:31:24.540 nations as it unfolds there. For example, in Obadiah 15, 0:31:24.540 --> 0:31:26.910 God says to the nations, the day of the Lord 0:31:26.910 --> 0:31:29.910 is near for all nations, as you have done, it'll 0:31:29.910 --> 0:31:32.190 be done to you. Your deeds will return on your 0:31:32.190 --> 0:31:34.470 own head. And the next verse makes it clear that 0:31:34.470 --> 0:31:37.350 God's referring to what the nations had done to Israel. 0:31:37.650 --> 0:31:42.810 In Amos chapter one, God announces his judgment on Damascus, Gaza, tyre, 0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.270 Edam and Amman. And he says it was because of 0:31:45.270 --> 0:31:48.510 what they had done to his people. In Zechariah one 0:31:48.540 --> 0:31:50.400 get to the end of the Old Testament, God announces 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.490 he's very jealous for Jerusalem and Zion. But I'm very 0:31:53.490 --> 0:31:56.820 angry with the nations that feel secure because of what 0:31:56.820 --> 0:31:59.160 they've done to his people. So throughout the Old Testament, 0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.250 I see God judging Israel based on their obedience or 0:32:02.250 --> 0:32:06.060 disobedience to his revealed will. But he judges the nations 0:32:06.060 --> 0:32:09.660 and individuals based on their response to those people. He 0:32:09.660 --> 0:32:12.510 blesses individuals and nations who seek to bless his people, 0:32:12.510 --> 0:32:15.270 and he curses those who seek to harm his people. 0:32:15.270 --> 0:32:18.270 And since that was part of God's unconditional covenant with 0:32:18.270 --> 0:32:21.210 Abraham and Israel, I don't think it's ever been revoked. 0:32:21.210 --> 0:32:25.770 Can you please explain Ezekiel 20 verses 25 and 26, 0:32:25.770 --> 0:32:29.190 where God says, moreover, I gave them statutes that were 0:32:29.190 --> 0:32:32.730 not good, and rules by which they could not have life. 0:32:32.730 --> 0:32:37.020 Passages such as Psalm 119 tell us God's statutes are good. 0:32:37.020 --> 0:32:38.910 So how do we reconcile these two? 0:32:39.060 --> 0:32:41.040 Yeah, and this is another case where it's so important 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.760 to look at the whole context in context. Ezekiel 2025 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.090 isn't referring to God's law, but to the false religious 0:32:48.090 --> 0:32:51.540 worship and accompanying regulations that the people had turned to 0:32:51.540 --> 0:32:54.690 in their idolatry. And I say that for two reasons. First, 0:32:54.690 --> 0:32:58.710 the preceding verse specifically says the people had not obeyed 0:32:58.710 --> 0:33:02.310 my laws, but had rejected my decrees, and their eyes 0:33:02.310 --> 0:33:05.490 lusted after their fathers idols. And then second, in the 0:33:05.490 --> 0:33:08.460 very next verse, after verse 25, it illustrates the kind 0:33:08.460 --> 0:33:11.459 of statutes they turn to that were not good. He says. 0:33:11.460 --> 0:33:15.300 I let them become defiled through their gifts, the sacrifice 0:33:15.300 --> 0:33:18.570 of every firstborn. So the laws that were not good 0:33:18.570 --> 0:33:23.700 included pagan regulations requiring child sacrifice. One other thought a 0:33:23.700 --> 0:33:26.010 word needs to be supplied in verse 25 to have 0:33:26.010 --> 0:33:29.010 the verse make sense in context, instead of I gave 0:33:29.010 --> 0:33:31.469 them statutes that were not good. It needs to be 0:33:31.470 --> 0:33:33.840 understood in the sense of I gave them over to 0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:37.140 statutes that were not good. It's picturing a judicial act 0:33:37.140 --> 0:33:40.350 of divine judgment. Once the people rejected God and His 0:33:40.350 --> 0:33:43.410 law and turned to idolatry, God handed them over to 0:33:43.410 --> 0:33:46.350 the logical results of their choices. And in this case, 0:33:46.350 --> 0:33:48.750 it was the decision to offer their own children as 0:33:48.750 --> 0:33:51.540 human sacrifices. By the way, I see something similar in 0:33:51.540 --> 0:33:54.989 Romans one, where God judicially gave people over to the 0:33:54.990 --> 0:33:57.390 consequences of their own sinful actions. 0:33:57.390 --> 0:34:00.540 Interesting question here. Should we thank God for things we 0:34:00.540 --> 0:34:04.410 don't feel thankful for? But no, we should be thankful for? 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.120 Isn't that disingenuous? 0:34:06.750 --> 0:34:09.390 Well, I got an answer two ways. First, I think 0:34:09.390 --> 0:34:13.680 first Thessalonians 518 provides the basic answer give thanks in 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.620 all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in 0:34:16.620 --> 0:34:19.410 Christ Jesus. Now that suggests we can choose how we 0:34:19.410 --> 0:34:24.239 respond in spite of our physical or emotional circumstances. But second, 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.030 then I'm reminded of Paul's second letter to the Corinthians. 0:34:27.030 --> 0:34:29.370 Paul gave a general principle in chapter one he says, 0:34:29.370 --> 0:34:31.350 praise be to the God and Father of our Lord 0:34:31.350 --> 0:34:34.920 Jesus Christ, the father of compassion, the God of all comfort, 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.860 who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we 0:34:37.860 --> 0:34:40.530 can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we 0:34:40.530 --> 0:34:43.230 ourselves have received from God. And then later in the book, 0:34:43.230 --> 0:34:45.630 in chapter seven, he explains how he was able to 0:34:45.630 --> 0:34:49.200 move from despair to comfort and thanksgiving. He says, when 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.750 he came into Macedonia, we had no rest. We were 0:34:51.750 --> 0:34:55.320 harassed on every turn, fierce without. But God, who comforts 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.259 the downcast, comforted us by the coming of Titus, and 0:34:58.260 --> 0:35:00.480 not only by his coming, but also by the comfort 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.310 you'd given him. Now all that to say, I think 0:35:02.310 --> 0:35:04.770 God wants us to be thankful for all things. That 0:35:04.770 --> 0:35:07.980 doesn't mean such thanks comes automatically, but we start by 0:35:07.980 --> 0:35:11.610 remembering God does work all things together for good, even 0:35:11.610 --> 0:35:13.859 when those all things might not in and of themselves 0:35:13.860 --> 0:35:16.230 be good. And we can be honest with God about 0:35:16.230 --> 0:35:18.660 our struggles. We can ask him to bring someone along 0:35:18.660 --> 0:35:21.270 who can help us remember to be thankful by helping 0:35:21.270 --> 0:35:23.640 us look beyond ourselves and see the beauty and joy 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:24.930 in life around us. 0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.540 And our last question for this segment comes from Steve. 0:35:27.540 --> 0:35:30.480 He says, I'm interested in getting a Bible timeline from 0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.270 creation all the way to the start of the church age, 0:35:33.270 --> 0:35:36.630 and I have resource various outlines and found some agree 0:35:36.630 --> 0:35:40.589 closely like the creation date, but others vary widely. The 0:35:40.590 --> 0:35:43.110 birth of Abraham, for example. The question is who do 0:35:43.110 --> 0:35:47.100 I trust? Does Moody have a resource that dates creation, Noah, 0:35:47.100 --> 0:35:50.160 the flood, the Tower of Babel, Abraham, etc.? 0:35:51.190 --> 0:35:53.590 I mean, I understand the frustration because there are so 0:35:53.590 --> 0:35:57.040 many different chronologies out there. I've personally not found one 0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.830 source I can agree with completely, but I can recommend 0:35:59.830 --> 0:36:02.560 two books I found helpful. The first one is called 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:06.279 Chronological and Background Charts of the Old Testament, and it 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.399 was written by John Walton, and the second is chronological 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:13.150 and background charts of the New Testament by H. Wayne House. 0:36:13.150 --> 0:36:16.570 Now both are published by Zondervan. They're both available on Amazon, 0:36:16.570 --> 0:36:18.969 and I found both of them very helpful in terms 0:36:18.969 --> 0:36:22.450 of providing basic information that helps me date things and 0:36:22.450 --> 0:36:23.259 put them in place. 0:36:23.260 --> 0:36:25.840 Well, as always, it's a fun trip through these questions. 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.180 And by the way, I promised I'd share our email address. 0:36:28.180 --> 0:36:30.820 If you'd like to get a question to Charlie, here's 0:36:30.820 --> 0:36:35.980 how to do it. The land and the book@moody.edu. That's simple. 0:36:35.980 --> 0:36:40.359 The land and the book@moody.edu. We'll look forward to getting 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.780 your question. Well, the program has more yet to come. 0:36:43.780 --> 0:37:00.210 It's Charlie's devotional right here. Next. What's that old line? 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:04.140 The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain. Well, 0:37:04.140 --> 0:37:06.540 welcome back to the land in the book where. Charlie, 0:37:06.540 --> 0:37:10.020 your devotional has to do with weather bulletins and rain. 0:37:10.050 --> 0:37:10.800 Is that correct? 0:37:11.010 --> 0:37:14.370 That's right. We're continuing that series on weather bulletins from 0:37:14.370 --> 0:37:16.590 the Bible. And today we're looking at rain. 0:37:16.590 --> 0:37:19.080 Okay, but we're not going to Spain at all. We're 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.060 headed to Deuteronomy chapter 11. Right. 0:37:21.060 --> 0:37:21.900 That's exactly. 0:37:21.900 --> 0:37:25.410 Right. Okay. We'll get to that devotional and its implications 0:37:25.410 --> 0:37:27.780 for you and me after we hear this Holy Land 0:37:27.780 --> 0:37:29.100 experience testimony. 0:37:33.260 --> 0:37:37.430 I had the wonderful experience of visiting the Holy Land. 0:37:37.940 --> 0:37:43.250 I cannot express how much it meant to me just 0:37:43.250 --> 0:37:46.730 to walk the streets and just to go to places 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.520 that are so familiar in the Bible. 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:55.460 The Bible truly come alive to me. After visiting Israel, 0:37:55.850 --> 0:38:00.200 the Dead Sea was one of my favorite spot the 0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:05.270 garden tombs. Oh, I love that. Mount Olive was wonderful. 0:38:05.270 --> 0:38:10.819 I mean so many places to enjoy and to see. 0:38:10.850 --> 0:38:15.830 My desire is to return again. I'm now in school 0:38:16.010 --> 0:38:19.520 doing a degree and as soon as I finish. 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.520 That will be my place of giving myself a tree 0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:26.600 to visit Holy Land again with my granddaughter. Anybody who 0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:29.270 have the opportunity to do this should do it and 0:38:29.270 --> 0:38:32.450 enjoy to the best of their ability. God bless you 0:38:32.450 --> 0:38:35.029 and thanks for sharing. Your program have been a blessing 0:38:35.060 --> 0:38:37.940 to my heart daily as I sit at work and 0:38:37.940 --> 0:38:39.049 listen to you. 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.460 All right, Charlie, I have my, uh, rain boots on 0:38:43.460 --> 0:38:46.969 my umbrella at the side. Ready to go for your devotional. 0:38:46.969 --> 0:38:47.780 Take it away. 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.630 Uh, thanks, John. I'm glad you're carrying that umbrella, because 0:38:50.630 --> 0:38:54.950 I am starting today's devotional by describing two unusual occurrences. 0:38:55.130 --> 0:38:58.940 For the first, imagine a sudden August storm descending on 0:38:58.940 --> 0:39:02.390 a city along the coast. As rain pours down, residents 0:39:02.390 --> 0:39:07.130 spot a waterspout whirling ominously just off shore. Now, while 0:39:07.130 --> 0:39:09.680 that might not be too unusual if you live in Florida, 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:13.730 this took place in Haifa, Israel. One resident who posted 0:39:13.730 --> 0:39:16.340 a video of the waterspout said the end of the 0:39:16.340 --> 0:39:20.120 world has come to Haifa. The second occurrence took place 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.340 years ago when I was with a group of students 0:39:22.340 --> 0:39:25.430 at Yarden. Neat! The baptismal site near the southern end 0:39:25.430 --> 0:39:28.550 of the Sea of Galilee in June. There were dark 0:39:28.550 --> 0:39:30.950 clouds in the sky, but I assured our group not 0:39:30.950 --> 0:39:34.850 to worry. It never rains in Israel. In June. About then, 0:39:34.850 --> 0:39:37.370 the sky opened up and a torrent of rain soaked 0:39:37.370 --> 0:39:40.580 all of us before we could make it inside. Later 0:39:40.580 --> 0:39:42.980 there I talked with a 70 something kibbutz Nick, who 0:39:42.980 --> 0:39:45.320 worked at the site, and I asked him about the rain, 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.839 and he said, I've lived in Israel all my life. 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:51.230 I've never seen it rain here in June. What made 0:39:51.230 --> 0:39:54.620 both of these events so memorable was their uniqueness. While 0:39:54.620 --> 0:39:57.890 I learned never to say never, the reality is that 0:39:57.890 --> 0:40:01.279 Israel has a mediterranean type climate that's more like Southern 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.969 California than like the rest of the United States. Generally, 0:40:04.969 --> 0:40:08.210 they experience a rainy season from October through April and 0:40:08.210 --> 0:40:11.660 a dry season from May through September. Each season can 0:40:11.660 --> 0:40:14.600 extend for a longer or shorter time, depending on when 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.420 the rains start and stop. The Bible refers to those 0:40:17.420 --> 0:40:19.969 as the early rains and the latter rains, but in 0:40:19.969 --> 0:40:24.440 general the pattern is predictable. Moses provided the first long 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.680 range weather forecast for the children of Israel as they 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.560 were preparing to enter the Promised Land. Those who had 0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.710 been born in Egypt or during Israel's time in the wilderness, 0:40:33.710 --> 0:40:36.890 had no experience with the meteorology of this new land. 0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:38.989 They had always lived in a desert where they got 0:40:38.989 --> 0:40:41.509 water either from the Nile River or from the wells 0:40:41.510 --> 0:40:45.140 and wadis in Sinai. Moses explained what was in store 0:40:45.140 --> 0:40:47.960 for them in Deuteronomy 11. The land you're about to 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:49.910 enter to take over is not like the land of 0:40:49.910 --> 0:40:52.730 Egypt from which you've come, where you planted your seed 0:40:52.730 --> 0:40:55.430 and irrigated it by foot, as in a vegetable garden. 0:40:55.430 --> 0:40:58.070 But the land you're crossing the Jordan to take possession 0:40:58.070 --> 0:41:00.680 of is a land of mountains and valleys that drinks 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.160 rain from heaven. And if they remain faithful to God, 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.980 he promised to send rain on your land in its season, 0:41:06.980 --> 0:41:09.680 both the early and late rain, so that you may 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:14.030 gather in your grain, new wine and oil, rain from heaven, 0:41:14.030 --> 0:41:16.819 rain that would begin in the fall and extend through 0:41:16.820 --> 0:41:19.759 the winter into the spring. But with that promise came 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.940 a warning. If the people chose to disobey God, he 0:41:22.940 --> 0:41:25.370 threatened to shut the heavens so that it will not 0:41:25.370 --> 0:41:28.190 rain in the ground, will yield no produce, and you 0:41:28.190 --> 0:41:30.890 will soon perish from the good land the Lord is 0:41:30.890 --> 0:41:34.790 giving you. Water is essential for life, and God's supply 0:41:34.790 --> 0:41:39.110 from heaven would be dependent on Israel's faithfulness. Perhaps that's 0:41:39.110 --> 0:41:41.540 why so much of the Bible revolves around the issue 0:41:41.540 --> 0:41:45.320 of rain, or the lack thereof. With the crazy exceptions 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.350 I mentioned at the beginning, the weather is fairly predictable 0:41:48.350 --> 0:41:51.110 in Israel, at least in the summer, even when it 0:41:51.110 --> 0:41:53.270 might look like rain. At the start of the day, 0:41:53.270 --> 0:41:56.390 the clouds vanish as the sun rises in the sky. 0:41:56.540 --> 0:42:00.410 That's why Solomon compared someone who promises much but doesn't 0:42:00.410 --> 0:42:04.910 deliver to clouds and wind without rain. And Jesus's half 0:42:04.910 --> 0:42:08.360 brother Jude warned against godless men whom he compared to 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:12.680 clouds without rain blown along by the wind. Those living 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.890 in Israel understood those summer clouds that looked promising but 0:42:15.890 --> 0:42:18.560 never seemed to amount to anything. And that's why a 0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.830 heavy rain or thunderstorm during the summer dry season makes 0:42:21.830 --> 0:42:25.280 the news even today. But imagine how frightening it was 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.520 to those in Israel who experienced times when God turned 0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:32.540 the weather forecast on its head. The Prophet Samuel's farewell 0:42:32.540 --> 0:42:34.969 speech to Israel took place at the time of the 0:42:34.969 --> 0:42:38.570 wheat harvest, which is in June during the dry season. 0:42:38.570 --> 0:42:41.359 Knowing what you know now, listen to his interaction with 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.540 the people. Is it not wheat harvest? Now I will 0:42:44.540 --> 0:42:47.149 call upon the Lord to send thunder and rain, and 0:42:47.150 --> 0:42:49.580 you will realize what an evil thing you did in 0:42:49.580 --> 0:42:52.160 the eyes of the Lord when you asked for a king. 0:42:52.460 --> 0:42:55.100 Then Samuel called upon the Lord, and the same day 0:42:55.100 --> 0:42:57.739 the Lord sent thunder and rain. So all the people 0:42:57.739 --> 0:43:00.500 stood in awe of the Lord and of Samuel. The 0:43:00.500 --> 0:43:03.290 people all said to Samuel, pray to the Lord your 0:43:03.290 --> 0:43:07.070 God for your servant, so that we will not die. Oh, 0:43:07.070 --> 0:43:10.790 and one final detail. That meeting took place in Gilgal, 0:43:10.790 --> 0:43:14.570 near Jericho. While it might rain rarely up in the 0:43:14.570 --> 0:43:17.779 hill country in June, it never rains in the lower 0:43:17.780 --> 0:43:20.660 Jordan Valley at that time of year. No wonder the 0:43:20.660 --> 0:43:24.920 people were frightened. Rain in the appropriate season was a 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.370 visible reminder of God's faithfulness. But when the people turned 0:43:28.370 --> 0:43:31.550 from God, he threatened to withhold the rain. When Ahab 0:43:31.550 --> 0:43:34.460 and Jezebel tried to replace the God of Israel with Baal, 0:43:34.489 --> 0:43:37.460 God sent Elijah to announce as the Lord, the God 0:43:37.460 --> 0:43:39.940 of Israel lives, whom I serve there will. Be neither 0:43:39.940 --> 0:43:42.910 do nor rain in the next few years, except at 0:43:42.910 --> 0:43:45.939 my word. And for the next three and a half years, 0:43:45.940 --> 0:43:50.350 Israel experienced no rain about the same time as Elijah 0:43:50.350 --> 0:43:53.469 was ministering to the northern Kingdom of Israel. The prophet 0:43:53.469 --> 0:43:56.529 Joel was ministering to the southern kingdom of Judah, and 0:43:56.530 --> 0:44:00.100 while he describes a devastating invasion of locusts, he also 0:44:00.100 --> 0:44:03.430 alludes to a time of drought so severe that, quote, 0:44:03.430 --> 0:44:06.850 the streams of water have dried up, as he describes 0:44:06.850 --> 0:44:09.640 it in chapter one, verse 20. And then as he 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.859 looked beyond the time of judgment to a future time 0:44:11.860 --> 0:44:14.500 of blessing, he describes that as a time when God 0:44:14.500 --> 0:44:18.070 will send you abundant showers, both the early and the 0:44:18.070 --> 0:44:22.450 latter rain as before, rain at the proper time and 0:44:22.450 --> 0:44:26.020 in appropriate amounts, was a sign of God's blessing. But 0:44:26.020 --> 0:44:29.739 Jesus used rain to reveal one additional truth. The religious 0:44:29.739 --> 0:44:32.170 leaders in his day were telling people to love your 0:44:32.170 --> 0:44:36.070 neighbor and hate your enemy. In contrast, Jesus told those 0:44:36.070 --> 0:44:39.279 listening to love your enemies and pray for those who 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:43.419 persecute you. And to make his point. In Matthew 545, 0:44:43.450 --> 0:44:47.410 Jesus reminded them of the example of God and the rain. 0:44:47.530 --> 0:44:51.700 God sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. This 0:44:51.700 --> 0:44:54.940 is often referred to as God's common grace, the unmerited 0:44:54.940 --> 0:44:58.900 favor he extends to both believers and unbelievers alike. And 0:44:58.900 --> 0:45:02.260 rain is a good illustration of this common grace. Now, 0:45:02.260 --> 0:45:04.120 as you get ready to close up your umbrella and 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:07.090 head home, what lessons can you carry along with you? 0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:10.750 Let me suggest two. First, just as God used the 0:45:10.750 --> 0:45:13.600 rain in Israel to remind the nation of their need 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.290 to remain dependent on him, so God brings circumstances into 0:45:17.290 --> 0:45:20.470 our lives to remind us of the same thing. You 0:45:20.469 --> 0:45:23.920 might be experiencing your own time of spiritual drought. It 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:27.550 could be financial or physical or an emotional crisis. But 0:45:27.550 --> 0:45:30.250 whatever the situation, it could be a wake up call 0:45:30.250 --> 0:45:33.580 from God to remind you to return to him. Don't 0:45:33.580 --> 0:45:36.430 wait until the crisis becomes greater. Go to him in 0:45:36.430 --> 0:45:39.700 prayer today. And the second lesson is just as important 0:45:39.700 --> 0:45:43.360 as the first. God wants us to reflect his character, 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.569 and one truth about God is that he loves the world. 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.029 How do we know? Well, he sent his son to 0:45:49.030 --> 0:45:52.300 die for the world. But Jesus also said, God causes 0:45:52.300 --> 0:45:55.300 the sun to shine on the righteous and the unrighteous, 0:45:55.300 --> 0:45:58.060 and he brings the rain on both as well. If 0:45:58.060 --> 0:46:00.790 you want to reflect God's character, then search out a 0:46:00.790 --> 0:46:04.420 way today to demonstrate his love and care not only 0:46:04.420 --> 0:46:06.759 to those who are part of God's family, but also 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.130 to those who are not. To borrow from the words 0:46:09.130 --> 0:46:12.670 of the old gospel song, let's become showers of blessing 0:46:12.700 --> 0:46:15.130 to everyone we meet today. 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:19.060 Thank you Charlie. Well, Weather Bulletins is the name that 0:46:19.060 --> 0:46:21.670 Charlie has titled this devotional series been going on for 0:46:21.670 --> 0:46:24.430 some time. 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