WEBVTT - Hour 2: Antisemitism In The End Times 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.800 Hi friend, thank you so much for downloading this podcast 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:06.920 and I truly hope you hear something that edifies encourage, equips, enlightens, 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.520 and then gets you out there in the marketplace of ideas. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.440 But before you go, I want to tell you about 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.680 this month's truth tool. It's called Have You Ever Wondered? 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.720 And I absolutely love this topic because if you're like me, 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.600 going out into the night sky and looking up and 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.439 seeing a million stars, don't you just stop and think 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.560 about God? 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Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. 0:02:25.230 --> 0:02:27.550 Thank you so much for joining us. Okay. Get that 0:02:27.550 --> 0:02:29.990 thinking cap out of the box. Put it on because 0:02:29.990 --> 0:02:32.669 we're going to think critically and biblically this hour. Those 0:02:32.669 --> 0:02:35.990 are not mutually exclusive postures for a follower of Yeshua. 0:02:36.030 --> 0:02:39.470 They are both and and I have to tell you something. 0:02:39.470 --> 0:02:43.470 I you know, I thought once we saw what happened 0:02:43.470 --> 0:02:47.230 in Germany and in the central part of Europe during 0:02:47.430 --> 0:02:50.630 World War two, that the clarion cry never again would 0:02:50.630 --> 0:02:54.989 be it. Exclamation point, end of discussion. Never again would 0:02:54.990 --> 0:02:59.210 we sit idly by when we saw anti-Semitism raise its ugly. 0:02:59.210 --> 0:03:02.290 It might be so bold. Demonic head. And yet we 0:03:02.330 --> 0:03:05.130 are seeing it now at an unprecedented rate. There are 0:03:05.130 --> 0:03:07.610 so many things that replicate exactly what happened in the 0:03:07.610 --> 0:03:11.209 1930s in Germany, as an example. And the church, the 0:03:11.210 --> 0:03:14.850 followers of Yeshua, cannot and must not sit idly by. 0:03:14.930 --> 0:03:16.930 There is no gray on this. There is no ambiguity. 0:03:16.930 --> 0:03:19.650 There is no opt in, opt out clause. You follow 0:03:19.650 --> 0:03:23.730 a Jewish Messiah. For whatever reason, God chose the Jewish people. 0:03:23.730 --> 0:03:26.010 My husband and I were just having this conversation again 0:03:26.010 --> 0:03:29.770 this past weekend. God, in his infinite and sovereign wisdom, 0:03:29.770 --> 0:03:33.810 could have chose the picks the Celts, the Normans, the Saxons. 0:03:34.010 --> 0:03:37.970 He chose the Jews. He came to earth as a 0:03:37.970 --> 0:03:41.370 man and a Jew. So I don't care what you think, 0:03:41.370 --> 0:03:43.970 number one, your first principle has to be why did 0:03:43.970 --> 0:03:47.610 God choose the Jewish people? There's something distinct and separate. 0:03:47.650 --> 0:03:51.450 He chose in human history to reveal his unconditional love 0:03:51.450 --> 0:03:54.940 for mankind through a Jewish Messiah. So why are we 0:03:54.980 --> 0:03:57.300 seeing a rise of anti-Semitism again? And now we've got 0:03:57.300 --> 0:04:02.020 this terrible conversation going on about eschatology. And somehow between 0:04:02.020 --> 0:04:05.420 Malachi and Matthew, God changes his mind and the nation 0:04:05.420 --> 0:04:07.820 of Israel is replaced by the church. And it's causing 0:04:07.820 --> 0:04:11.220 some really heated conversations within the parameters of the church 0:04:11.220 --> 0:04:14.500 capital C universal. But I'm a Y person. Typical for 0:04:14.500 --> 0:04:17.099 a firstborn. It's a burden we all carry. Why? Why 0:04:17.140 --> 0:04:21.140 are we seeing anti-Semitism rising like never before? That's going 0:04:21.140 --> 0:04:23.420 to be our focus this hour. And all of this 0:04:23.420 --> 0:04:25.219 is going to emanate from a book that is going 0:04:25.220 --> 0:04:29.700 to be released, not, paradoxically, on October 7th. That's the 0:04:29.740 --> 0:04:33.180 anniversary of what happened October 7th, 2023. It was done 0:04:33.180 --> 0:04:36.700 with pointed purpose, and I'm so glad it's called anti-Semitism 0:04:36.700 --> 0:04:38.700 in the End Times, how the rise of the world's 0:04:38.700 --> 0:04:42.619 oldest hatred is paving the way for Messiah's return. If 0:04:42.620 --> 0:04:45.540 somewhere out of all of this beauty can rise and 0:04:45.540 --> 0:04:47.980 we need to be paying attention. Our teacher this hour 0:04:48.020 --> 0:04:51.940 is Olivier Melnick. He got his master's from Dallas Theological Seminary. 0:04:51.980 --> 0:04:56.240 He's the founder and executive director of Shalom in Messiah Ministries. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.080 He is the son of Holocaust survivors from France. Olivier 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.560 is an international speaker. He is an authority on the 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:07.000 topic of anti-Semitism, and he's written seven books. He advocates 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.440 against anti-Semitism in any and all its forms, and Shalom 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.120 in Messiah educates people and mobilizes Christians to fight the 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.800 hate while building bridges with the Jewish people. Olivier, you 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.840 could not be joining us at a better, more prescient time. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.360 Thank you. God bless you with the ministry that you've got. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.880 And I'm so glad that you're here. Tell me a 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.360 background for people who don't know Shalom and Messiah Ministries. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.280 You're talking to a national audience. This will be their 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.640 first exposure for some. Talk to me about the ministry. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.159 When did it start? What do you do? 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.880 Well, Janet, thank you for having me on the show. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:42.920 First of all, uh, and, uh, before I started Shalom 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:47.279 and Messiah, I was truly called by God to do it. 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:52.210 I was, uh, a regional director with Chosen People Ministries 0:05:52.210 --> 0:05:55.250 for 27 years. And I know you've had Doctor Glazer 0:05:55.290 --> 0:05:58.570 on your show and other people. And so I've been 0:05:58.610 --> 0:06:00.930 I was with the mission for 27 years. And then 0:06:00.930 --> 0:06:04.730 the Lord called me to specifically focus my efforts on 0:06:04.730 --> 0:06:07.810 what I'm doing right now to, like you just said, 0:06:07.850 --> 0:06:11.330 equip Christians to understand anti-Semitism and use it in a 0:06:11.330 --> 0:06:15.610 way that it can help rebuild bridges between Christians and Jews. 0:06:15.970 --> 0:06:19.849 And also, an aspect of what we're doing is to 0:06:20.089 --> 0:06:23.890 equip Christians. And it's going to sound crazy to some people, 0:06:23.890 --> 0:06:27.409 but equip Christians to be ready to mobilize them, to 0:06:27.450 --> 0:06:31.170 reach out to help Jewish community right now. So so 0:06:31.210 --> 0:06:33.690 that when it gets worse for the Jews, they'll be 0:06:33.690 --> 0:06:37.050 ready to not be a bystander, but they will be 0:06:37.050 --> 0:06:39.890 the new Righteous Among the Nations for the 21st century. 0:06:39.930 --> 0:06:42.570 So that's what we're doing. Amen and amen. By the way, 0:06:42.570 --> 0:06:44.290 I'd be remiss if I didn't say one for the 0:06:44.290 --> 0:06:47.250 home team. Olivier is a graduate of Moody Bible Institute. 0:06:47.290 --> 0:06:49.570 He graduated in 2001, so I want to point that 0:06:49.570 --> 0:06:52.190 out as well. So Olivier, I love to hear the stories. 0:06:52.190 --> 0:06:55.590 Before we get into your very important topic. Talk to 0:06:55.589 --> 0:06:57.510 me about how you came to faith in Yeshua. 0:06:58.230 --> 0:06:59.670 Okay, well, first of all, I got to tell you, 0:06:59.670 --> 0:07:03.110 I was looking on the page today, the whatever web 0:07:03.150 --> 0:07:06.550 page where your program is listed. And it made me 0:07:06.550 --> 0:07:09.630 laugh because on the bio that you guys wrote, I 0:07:09.630 --> 0:07:15.510 would be 95 years old. And. It says that my 0:07:15.510 --> 0:07:19.830 grandfather was was killed in Auschwitz when I was 15. 0:07:20.110 --> 0:07:23.990 So make it 1945 at the latest that, you know, 0:07:23.990 --> 0:07:27.510 we're in 25. So I would be 95 years old today. 0:07:27.550 --> 0:07:30.470 And I'm 65, so mazel tov. 0:07:31.470 --> 0:07:34.230 Let me let me set the record straight because I 0:07:34.230 --> 0:07:36.030 thought this was funny. I had to get a kick 0:07:36.030 --> 0:07:38.790 out of that. So I was born and raised. 0:07:38.790 --> 0:07:45.630 In France in 1959. Parents are Holocaust survivors and, uh, 0:07:45.790 --> 0:07:50.840 both Jewish and, um, I basically did not believe in anything. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.800 My my dad was an atheist. My mother lost her 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.520 faith when her dad was taken from her when she 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.040 was 15. That's her. That's my grandfather. That's my my 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.120 maternal grandfather. He was taken to Auschwitz and died within 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.720 a week of being taken from, uh, from the suburb 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:10.400 of Paris in 1942, summer of 1942. And, uh, so 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.560 she lost her faith. And by the way, for the 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.960 that maybe for another time. But both my parents came 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.960 to the Lord before they passed. I led them to 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.200 the Lord a few years ago. So this this part 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.040 for them for 28 years. So, uh, I was in France. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.000 I didn't believe in anything, I didn't care. And then 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:31.080 I met an American gentile, uh, who ended up challenging 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.719 me when I wanted to marry her. And she said, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.440 you know, your Messiah is Jewish. Your Bible is Jewish. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.440 Get a clue. Uh, and so she gave me a Bible. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.079 I looked at it, and eventually that Bible led to 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.480 me reading the late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey. Um, 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:49.180 and that is what did it for me. I got really, 0:08:49.179 --> 0:08:52.020 really scared out of my socks when I got to 0:08:52.059 --> 0:08:58.260 the rapture and, uh, and, uh, so I said, listen, 0:08:58.260 --> 0:09:00.500 this is kind of a nonsense thing where you're going 0:09:00.540 --> 0:09:03.740 to disappear. And that was like in 1983. Um, and 0:09:03.740 --> 0:09:05.660 she said, no, it's not nonsense. I don't have all 0:09:05.660 --> 0:09:07.179 the details, but we're going to be gone and you're 0:09:07.179 --> 0:09:09.660 going to be left here. And that's exactly why I 0:09:09.660 --> 0:09:12.260 can't marry you unless you believe like I do. One 0:09:12.260 --> 0:09:14.060 thing led to another. I gave my life to the 0:09:14.059 --> 0:09:15.780 Lord July of 1983. 0:09:16.220 --> 0:09:19.500 Wow. Amen. And the rest, as they say, is history. Oh, Olivia, 0:09:19.500 --> 0:09:21.020 I'm so glad you're here. And I'm so glad we're 0:09:21.020 --> 0:09:23.540 going to spend this hour together. And I'm so glad 0:09:23.580 --> 0:09:26.540 we're going to talk about anti-Semitism and its linkage to 0:09:26.580 --> 0:09:30.020 the end times, which is a fascinating conversation. Olivia melnick 0:09:30.059 --> 0:09:32.620 is with us again. He is the founder and executive 0:09:32.620 --> 0:09:45.590 director of Shalom in Messiah Ministries. More after this. Have 0:09:45.590 --> 0:09:47.830 you ever wondered why music moves us so deeply? Or 0:09:47.830 --> 0:09:50.469 why beauty takes our breath away? My Truth Tool this 0:09:50.470 --> 0:09:53.030 month is a thought provoking book that explores those moments 0:09:53.030 --> 0:09:55.910 of wonder we all encounter. 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That is a nonprofit organization 0:10:23.510 --> 0:10:27.310 that exists to expose and fight anti-Semitism, as well as 0:10:27.350 --> 0:10:30.430 equip you and me and mobilize us so we can 0:10:30.429 --> 0:10:33.670 help the Jewish people discover that Yeshua is, in fact, 0:10:33.830 --> 0:10:37.790 the long anticipated Messiah. And I noted out earlier that 0:10:38.030 --> 0:10:40.510 Olivier attended Moody Bible Institute. Let me just give a 0:10:40.510 --> 0:10:42.510 shout out to the Jewish Studies program. I am so 0:10:42.510 --> 0:10:46.010 thankful that is a part of Moody Bible Institute. You know, 0:10:46.010 --> 0:10:48.410 a lot of Christian schools think maybe that isn't so 0:10:48.410 --> 0:10:51.410 necessary anymore. We wouldn't have somebody like Olivier, and we 0:10:51.410 --> 0:10:54.450 wouldn't have somebody like Doctor Michael Redlich. And as as 0:10:54.490 --> 0:10:56.890 our friend Mitch Glazer has told us on many occasion 0:10:56.890 --> 0:10:59.610 how many people graduated from Moody that are working for 0:10:59.610 --> 0:11:01.930 Chosen People Ministries as well. So I'm so very, very 0:11:01.929 --> 0:11:05.210 grateful for that part of Moody Bible Institute. Olivier, by 0:11:05.210 --> 0:11:06.930 the way, has a new book coming out. You can 0:11:06.929 --> 0:11:10.689 pre-order it now. It's called antisemitism in the End Times 0:11:10.690 --> 0:11:13.530 How the Rise of the World's Oldest Hatred is paving 0:11:13.530 --> 0:11:15.850 the way for Messiah's Return. I love that part of 0:11:15.850 --> 0:11:19.330 the subtitle, Olivier, because it is the world's oldest hatred. 0:11:19.410 --> 0:11:21.130 I want to start where your book start, which is 0:11:21.130 --> 0:11:23.450 so that we're all on the same page. How do 0:11:23.450 --> 0:11:26.690 you define how should we define anti-Semitism? 0:11:27.490 --> 0:11:32.010 Well, Janet, I am so happy. I'm so pleased that 0:11:32.010 --> 0:11:35.530 you used the word demonic in your introduction, because that 0:11:35.530 --> 0:11:38.250 is one of the two key words I use in 0:11:38.250 --> 0:11:43.220 my own definition that goes like this Antisemitism is the 0:11:43.660 --> 0:11:49.740 irrational and satanic or demonic, irrational and satanic hatred of 0:11:49.740 --> 0:11:55.220 the Jews and Israel, characterized by thoughts, words and or 0:11:55.260 --> 0:11:56.860 deeds against them. 0:11:58.020 --> 0:12:01.459 Perfectly defined, perfectly defined. And it is a spiritual war. 0:12:01.460 --> 0:12:03.459 So let me linger on that point, because I want 0:12:03.500 --> 0:12:06.500 people listening to understand why you can't just look at 0:12:06.500 --> 0:12:09.220 the events at Columbia University or what took place on 0:12:09.220 --> 0:12:13.260 October 7th, 2023. Why, at its core, is this a 0:12:13.260 --> 0:12:14.780 spiritual issue, do you think? 0:12:15.580 --> 0:12:16.900 Well, if you if. 0:12:16.900 --> 0:12:19.260 You look at the Bible and I approach the Bible, 0:12:19.300 --> 0:12:21.580 you know, being a moody grad and a DTS grad 0:12:21.620 --> 0:12:24.700 and my approach to the Bible is dispensationalist and so 0:12:24.900 --> 0:12:28.540 I'm pre-milled pre-trib, like a friend of mine says, I 0:12:28.540 --> 0:12:30.580 don't even eat cereal to be safe. 0:12:30.940 --> 0:12:35.660 So. So but I. 0:12:35.700 --> 0:12:39.300 Look at the the end times and I find out 0:12:39.300 --> 0:12:43.679 that Stating from the very, very first messianic prophecy found 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.320 in Genesis 315, the seed of the woman and the 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.520 seed of the serpent. Satan has a hatred of the Jews, 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.480 and Satan knows the Bible very well, and when he 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.040 looks at the entire council of God, he is not omniscient, 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.800 but he knows his Bible. He knows that at some 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.680 point in the future, the the Jewish people are going 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:06.000 to go through with a bunch of people through the tribulation. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.680 Some will survive, some will not. Those who survive will 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.520 call on Yeshua, will say, Baruch Hashem Adonai. Blessed is 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.240 he who comes in the name of the Lord, and 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.040 that will usher in the second coming of the Messiah. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.120 When that happens, Satan is out of a job and 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.040 he does not like his retirement plan. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.200 He doesn't want to go there. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:24.760 That's exactly right. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.160 So he's going to do everything he can to stop 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.840 it from happening or to postpone it. That's exactly what 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.120 he does. And right now, I can tell you, when 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.040 you look at the events in the world, he's running 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.040 on fumes. He knows it and he's doing. He's pulling 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.610 everything he can to go after the Jews. 0:13:39.650 --> 0:13:41.410 And that's what we are witnessing. 0:13:41.450 --> 0:13:45.250 And it is irrational. Janet, because where else do you 0:13:45.250 --> 0:13:50.730 see the liberal left and radical Islam disagree ideologically on everything, 0:13:50.770 --> 0:13:51.569 except that they. 0:13:51.570 --> 0:13:51.730 Would. 0:13:51.730 --> 0:13:52.450 All hints. 0:13:52.490 --> 0:13:53.050 When it goes. 0:13:53.050 --> 0:13:53.850 After the Jews? 0:13:54.130 --> 0:13:56.530 Yes, yes, yes. And you know, I you know, I 0:13:56.570 --> 0:13:59.449 love world history and I love studying about people groups. 0:13:59.450 --> 0:14:01.610 And so you look at history and you think, for 0:14:01.610 --> 0:14:04.090 the Jews, if it's not Pharaoh, then it's Herod. If 0:14:04.090 --> 0:14:07.010 it's not Herod, it's Hitler. If it's not Hitler, it's 0:14:07.010 --> 0:14:09.809 the Spanish Inquisition. Now, I understand that there have been 0:14:09.809 --> 0:14:12.650 problems with different people groups throughout the beginning of time, 0:14:12.650 --> 0:14:15.690 but there's just something about the Jews. Even when Jews 0:14:15.690 --> 0:14:18.370 were being freed out of the camps in the Holocaust. 0:14:18.370 --> 0:14:20.730 And they come. Britain won't take them in, the United 0:14:20.730 --> 0:14:22.770 States won't take them. And they're literally stuck on a 0:14:22.770 --> 0:14:24.690 ship and they can't even get back. To which we'll 0:14:24.690 --> 0:14:28.690 thank you. God become their homeland. The Jewish state of Israel. 0:14:28.850 --> 0:14:32.250 So you just see this constant, constant attack. I know 0:14:32.250 --> 0:14:34.850 it seems sophomoric, but it seems that at some base level, 0:14:34.850 --> 0:14:37.430 Satan must think that if he can wipe out the Jews. 0:14:37.430 --> 0:14:40.670 He's eradicated what he wants to promulgate as the mythology 0:14:40.670 --> 0:14:43.270 of a Jewish Messiah. It makes no other sense otherwise. 0:14:43.710 --> 0:14:45.870 Yeah, well, he tried that the first coming. He tried 0:14:45.870 --> 0:14:49.710 to corrupt the human race with in Genesis six. He 0:14:49.710 --> 0:14:52.590 tried different things and it didn't work. And he's going 0:14:52.630 --> 0:14:56.870 to try to, to to stop the second coming from happening. Uh, 0:14:56.870 --> 0:15:00.030 and it's just, you know, when you mentioned that, you know, 0:15:00.070 --> 0:15:02.230 you never thought that you would we would see such 0:15:02.270 --> 0:15:05.430 a level of hatred against the Jews. I mean, I 0:15:05.470 --> 0:15:07.870 come from a family of Holocaust survivors. I heard the 0:15:07.870 --> 0:15:10.710 stories of our family. And, you know, my mother told 0:15:10.710 --> 0:15:13.790 me stories, and my dad told me stories in France. 0:15:13.790 --> 0:15:15.790 And I'm thinking like, yeah, it's never going to get 0:15:15.790 --> 0:15:18.670 that bad. Well, in 2000, when I started looking into this, 0:15:18.670 --> 0:15:23.070 I was I was finishing my undergrad. I started telling people, 0:15:23.070 --> 0:15:24.670 it's going to get bad for the Jews. And people 0:15:24.670 --> 0:15:27.670 look at me and they said, like, Olivier, you're overreacting. Well, 0:15:27.710 --> 0:15:31.670 25 years later, I'm having a not and I'm not 0:15:31.670 --> 0:15:34.430 enjoying this, but I'm having this I told you so moment. 0:15:34.430 --> 0:15:36.840 I wish I was wrong, but I've been seeing this 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.240 for 25 years and we haven't seen the worst of it. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.520 And it's not the tribulation. I don't believe we'll go 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.520 through it. It's right now. It's going to get a 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.200 lot worse for the Jewish people, because no matter what happens, 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:48.920 they're going to be at fault in the eyes of 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:49.560 the world. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.040 Absolutely, absolutely. And you see that, I mean, now. So 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.760 step away from the Bible. I always tell my friends, 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.320 walk through life with the Bible in one hand, the 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.320 newspaper in the other. Now you look at the headlines 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.880 of the day. I'm a Jewish student at Columbia University. 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.800 I can't get to my class. I can't wear a 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.960 Star of David. I can't give any outward appearances of 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.800 my identification and my person as being a Jew. If 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.360 that isn't a deja vu all over again and what 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.560 we saw in Germany, I don't know what is. And 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.280 so what bothers me the most is those in authority, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.680 those who should know better, the college presidents, the people 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.960 in authority for governmental offices who turn a blind eye 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.960 and a deaf ear. Well, I think that's their own 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.240 particular corrupted worldview. It has to. Likewise. Do you not 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.440 agree be a kind of spiritual blindness? 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.900 There is. it is a spiritual blindness. And it is, uh, 0:16:37.300 --> 0:16:41.020 it is the enemy. It's Satan is using whoever he 0:16:41.020 --> 0:16:43.780 can right now. You're looking at somebody like. And I, 0:16:43.900 --> 0:16:45.620 you know, maybe we don't want to get on that topic, 0:16:45.620 --> 0:16:49.460 but you're looking at somebody like Candace Owens and Candace Owens. Uh, 0:16:49.460 --> 0:16:52.900 you know, I used to look at this young, young 0:16:52.900 --> 0:16:55.900 conservative woman. I'm like, wow, here's the voice of the future. 0:16:55.940 --> 0:16:59.220 She's it's exciting. And I'm, you know, I'm it's hopeful 0:16:59.220 --> 0:17:02.460 that we have young people like her. And she turned, 0:17:02.500 --> 0:17:06.980 she completely turned. And she has become so toxic against 0:17:06.980 --> 0:17:10.940 the Jews. And so now we've got Satan will use anybody, 0:17:10.940 --> 0:17:13.420 even smart people, to use them against the Jews. 0:17:13.660 --> 0:17:16.659 Absolutely. And I couldn't agree with your assessment more, Olivier. 0:17:16.980 --> 0:17:19.620 It is a fabulous book. It comes out later this year. 0:17:19.619 --> 0:17:22.500 You can preorder it now. This topic is today. It 0:17:22.500 --> 0:17:26.340 is timely. It needs to be addressed now. anti-Semitism in 0:17:26.340 --> 0:17:29.100 the End Times. The subtitle of Olivier's new books is 0:17:29.100 --> 0:17:32.830 How the Rise of the World's oldest hatred is paving 0:17:32.830 --> 0:17:36.270 the way for Messiah's return. If there's anything in that 0:17:36.270 --> 0:17:38.950 darkness that's positive, it is that Jesus is coming again. 0:17:38.950 --> 0:17:42.030 His return is imminent. Look around you. All the signs 0:17:42.030 --> 0:17:56.790 are there. More with Olivier Melnick right after this. Such 0:17:56.790 --> 0:18:00.109 an important conversation. And we followers of Jesus must get 0:18:00.109 --> 0:18:02.550 this right. Olivier Melnick is with us. He's the founder 0:18:02.550 --> 0:18:06.710 and executive director of Shalom in Messiah Ministries. I love 0:18:06.710 --> 0:18:08.109 the work that they do, and he's got a new 0:18:08.109 --> 0:18:12.470 book coming out called anti-Semitism in the End Times. And 0:18:12.470 --> 0:18:14.750 this is important for us to understand why we're seeing 0:18:14.750 --> 0:18:17.310 what we're seeing and how this is indicative of the 0:18:17.310 --> 0:18:19.590 fact that Jesus is coming. And more than anything else, 0:18:19.590 --> 0:18:22.230 our God declared he's not willing that any should perish. 0:18:22.230 --> 0:18:25.230 And that includes the Jewish people. So I'm so glad 0:18:25.230 --> 0:18:27.350 we're having this conversation. Okay, I want to get a 0:18:27.390 --> 0:18:30.470 history lesson here because I smile when I hear this 0:18:30.470 --> 0:18:33.209 because of the ignorance, the palpable ignorance. Most of the 0:18:33.210 --> 0:18:36.730 people who show up at these events waving their Palestinian 0:18:37.369 --> 0:18:40.210 flags and chanting from the river to the sea. Couldn't 0:18:40.250 --> 0:18:42.649 tell you what river and don't know what sea. And oh, 0:18:42.650 --> 0:18:44.570 by the way, they pocket about 200 bucks every time 0:18:44.570 --> 0:18:47.290 they show up. So when they're chanting these things, I 0:18:47.290 --> 0:18:49.169 think to myself, you don't even know what the history 0:18:49.170 --> 0:18:51.610 is here. Now, you write about this in the book, 0:18:51.609 --> 0:18:53.369 which I'm very glad. And you take us all the 0:18:53.369 --> 0:18:56.530 way back to an uprising that took took place in 0:18:56.530 --> 0:18:59.609 132 A.D.. That's a good place for us to start. 0:18:59.609 --> 0:19:00.409 What happened. 0:19:01.170 --> 0:19:07.850 When? 32 to 135 A.D., a revolt against the Romans and, uh, the, uh, 0:19:08.850 --> 0:19:15.170 Emperor Hadrian wanted to humiliate the Jewish people, and he thought, okay, uh, 0:19:15.170 --> 0:19:18.649 beyond doing what we did and killing the people and 0:19:19.010 --> 0:19:23.050 torturing and then stealing and doing whatever we did, taking control, 0:19:23.050 --> 0:19:26.490 we are going to change the name of Jerusalem, uh, 0:19:26.490 --> 0:19:29.459 with the word Capitolina, and we're going to change the 0:19:29.460 --> 0:19:35.020 word of Israel to the word Palestina. Uh, and, uh, 0:19:35.140 --> 0:19:39.620 that was at the time just to take any vestige of, of, 0:19:39.619 --> 0:19:43.219 of Jewish heritage, any, anything Jewish, just to humiliate the 0:19:43.220 --> 0:19:47.820 Jewish people. Uh, it stuck and and and people started 0:19:47.820 --> 0:19:50.820 to use the word Palestine to describe a piece of 0:19:50.820 --> 0:19:53.340 land that we know today as Eretz Israel, the land 0:19:53.340 --> 0:19:56.780 of Israel. Uh, and it was not a big issue. Uh, Janet, 0:19:56.820 --> 0:19:59.620 I mean, nobody cared. It was the wrong word, but 0:19:59.619 --> 0:20:04.220 nobody cared until 1948 or slightly after that. Uh, because 0:20:04.220 --> 0:20:07.060 it was always describing a land, a piece of land 0:20:07.100 --> 0:20:12.300 where Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews lived together on that 0:20:12.300 --> 0:20:17.380 piece of land. And then, uh, in the early 60s, 0:20:17.420 --> 0:20:20.860 come this man, Yasser Arafat, who is about as Palestinian 0:20:20.859 --> 0:20:24.419 as you and I. He was born in Egypt. Uh, and, uh, 0:20:24.820 --> 0:20:26.740 he comes in and he's put on the stage and 0:20:26.740 --> 0:20:31.639 he starts pushing the agenda of a displaced people, of colonization, 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.880 of occupation. And at first a lot of people looked 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:36.400 at him going like, this is not going to stick. 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.000 This is crazy. We don't believe. But it took, what, 50, 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.880 60 years? And now nobody's questioning it. And now we 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:46.000 have a, by the way, the modern Palestinian flag. Janet, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.479 I wish I wish this was a video thing that 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:50.600 you could I could show you something because the modern 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.160 Palestinian flag pretty much is the Jordanian flag, minus that 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.280 little white star in the triangle on the left. It's 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:01.160 exactly the same color, the same design. I have a dictionary. 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:07.200 A French dictionary, uh, from 1939. It's the Petit Larousse. 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.400 It's the dictionary that to this day is published every year. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.679 And so it's been published for almost 300 years now. 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.919 And the 1939 version, you open it on the the 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.760 page with the flags on the left. You have Germany, 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.560 which has a swastika on a red square with a 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.649 white circle. That's the Nazi regime, 1939. That makes sense. 0:21:26.690 --> 0:21:29.370 On the right you have the flag of Palestine, which 0:21:29.369 --> 0:21:31.970 has a white square, a blue square, and a yellow 0:21:31.970 --> 0:21:33.050 star of David in the middle. 0:21:33.730 --> 0:21:35.690 Mm. Wow. Unbelievable. 0:21:35.770 --> 0:21:36.210 People don't. 0:21:36.210 --> 0:21:37.610 Know. People don't know that they go like. 0:21:37.650 --> 0:21:41.449 What is this? Is there a mistake? No. Because back then, 1939, 0:21:41.450 --> 0:21:44.450 nine years before 48, Palestine was a piece of land. 0:21:44.490 --> 0:21:48.570 It became politically charged, as it is today, even more so. 0:21:48.690 --> 0:21:52.250 But before that, the word state. I wish it, you know, 0:21:52.290 --> 0:21:55.090 even in the Bible commentaries, you know, a lot of 0:21:55.090 --> 0:22:00.250 people talk about in ancient Palestine and the word stayed 0:22:00.250 --> 0:22:02.650 and people used it, and then it got used to 0:22:02.690 --> 0:22:05.730 create a people that does not exist to create a 0:22:05.770 --> 0:22:10.290 there are basically there's no Palestinian language, Palestinian culture, Palestinian customs, 0:22:10.330 --> 0:22:13.530 Palestinian food. It's Arabs. Nothing wrong with that. But they 0:22:13.530 --> 0:22:16.770 are not Palestinians. They are Arabs that were from the 0:22:16.970 --> 0:22:18.889 neighboring country all around Israel. 0:22:19.210 --> 0:22:22.050 Exactly right. And you mentioned Jordan. You know, if there 0:22:22.050 --> 0:22:24.210 ever were such a thing as a two state solution, 0:22:24.210 --> 0:22:27.750 that won't happen because the presupposition is both parties want peace. 0:22:27.750 --> 0:22:29.870 The PLO does not, by the way. So you look 0:22:29.910 --> 0:22:35.030 at Jordan, 85%. Quote unquote Palestinians. The Hashemite minority makes 0:22:35.030 --> 0:22:39.150 up about 15%. So it's interesting because Jordan says, thanks. No, thanks. 0:22:39.150 --> 0:22:42.030 We don't want anybody from Gaza. Egypt puts up wall says, 0:22:42.030 --> 0:22:45.510 no thanks. We don't want anybody from Gaza. So why 0:22:45.510 --> 0:22:48.390 won't these Arab nations, if they're all Arabs? And you're 0:22:48.390 --> 0:22:51.630 absolutely right. Why aren't they welcoming in the Palestinians? 0:22:52.390 --> 0:22:54.230 Yeah, they don't want, but they well, first of all, 0:22:54.230 --> 0:22:56.590 they don't want anybody from from Gaza because they don't 0:22:56.590 --> 0:22:58.510 want the trouble that they would get if they get 0:22:58.510 --> 0:23:01.870 people from Hamas, they know they know what they get, 0:23:01.910 --> 0:23:06.590 you know, what would happen. But they insist on not 0:23:06.590 --> 0:23:11.030 taking these people back, because keeping the people in the, uh, 0:23:11.070 --> 0:23:14.510 you know, in the within the boundaries of, of Eretz Israel, 0:23:14.550 --> 0:23:18.469 the land of Israel is serving their agenda of of 0:23:18.630 --> 0:23:24.439 pushing the the idea of occupation and Colonization and stolen land. 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.679 If they take the people back then, then they can't. 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:29.920 They don't have. They have nothing to talk about. 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.240 That's exactly right. By the way, that language from the 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.160 river to the sea. I've pointed this out. It doesn't 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.000 make any difference whether it was the Wye Plantation, Oslo, 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.199 all of the Rose garden ops handshake in front of 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.080 a president. Every single time that they try to move 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:47.440 toward a two state solution, the directive is always that 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.919 the PLO has to remove the language from their charter 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:51.840 from the river to the sea, which calls for the 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.520 annihilation of the Jews genocide. By the way, if anybody 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:56.920 is accused of genocide. Trust me, it's not Israel. But 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.199 that language to this day still remains. Which is why 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.440 the use of that chant in the events that we're 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:05.120 seeing on college campuses across the country is not by accident. 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.679 And this is a spiritual war. I find this conversation 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.960 extremely important and absolutely for people who are going to 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.600 be thinking at a 400 level spiritually, this is not 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.960 your entry level Sunday school class. You need to understand 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:20.879 that this is a big issue spiritually and that anti-Semitism 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.300 isn't happening by accident that if you put it in 0:24:23.300 --> 0:24:26.300 the big picture, all of this shouldn't come as a surprise, 0:24:26.300 --> 0:24:30.219 particularly when you look forward with joyous anticipation of the 0:24:30.220 --> 0:24:33.780 return of Jesus, the Messiah. anti-Semitism in the End Times. 0:24:33.820 --> 0:24:37.100 New book by Lily Melnick. It's called how anti-Semitism in 0:24:37.100 --> 0:24:39.899 the anti. The subtitle says how the rise of the 0:24:39.900 --> 0:24:43.300 world's oldest hatred is paving the way for Messiah's return. 0:24:43.340 --> 0:24:45.540 I've got a link on my website so you can preorder. 0:24:45.540 --> 0:24:48.140 I also have a link to Shalom and Messiah. Com 0:24:48.140 --> 0:24:56.699 check it out back after this. Jesus told us to 0:24:56.740 --> 0:24:58.619 go into the world and not run away from it, 0:24:58.619 --> 0:25:00.260 and he didn't say it would be easy. In the 0:25:00.260 --> 0:25:02.340 market with Janet Parshall is a program designed to come 0:25:02.340 --> 0:25:05.140 alongside and walk with you into the marketplace of ideas. 0:25:05.140 --> 0:25:07.459 Partial partners are those friends who support our program on 0:25:07.460 --> 0:25:10.340 a regular monthly basis. They know the mandate of influencing 0:25:10.340 --> 0:25:12.899 and occupying until he comes. So why don't you become 0:25:12.900 --> 0:25:16.060 part of the inner circle of support? Call 877 Janet 0:25:16.060 --> 0:25:21.949 58 or go to in the market with Janet Parshall dot. Well, 0:25:21.950 --> 0:25:25.030 in full disclosure, I can already tell you that Olivier 0:25:25.030 --> 0:25:26.790 Melnick is going to have to come back again. There's 0:25:26.790 --> 0:25:28.870 just too much in this book for us to get 0:25:28.869 --> 0:25:31.150 out in one hour. And that's a good thing, because 0:25:31.150 --> 0:25:33.950 I think this is a conversation that bears repeating. If 0:25:33.950 --> 0:25:36.109 you're just joining us, the warmest of welcome. So glad 0:25:36.109 --> 0:25:39.270 for the 21st century. And it's technology, you won't miss 0:25:39.270 --> 0:25:41.150 a thing if you'll simply go to where your favorite 0:25:41.150 --> 0:25:44.629 podcast can be found. Download in the market with Janet Parshall. 0:25:44.670 --> 0:25:48.310 Put in today's date and our conversation with Olivier Melnick, 0:25:48.310 --> 0:25:51.310 who is the founder and executive director of Shalom in 0:25:51.310 --> 0:25:56.150 Messiah Ministries. He is the son and grandson of Holocaust 0:25:56.150 --> 0:25:59.790 survivors from France. He's an international speaker and authority on 0:25:59.790 --> 0:26:03.270 the topic of anti-Semitism. The author of multiple books, he 0:26:03.270 --> 0:26:07.950 advocates against anti-Semitism in all its forms, and his ministry 0:26:07.950 --> 0:26:10.629 seeks to educate and mobilize Christians to fight the hate 0:26:10.630 --> 0:26:13.790 while building bridges with the Jewish people. His new book, 0:26:13.790 --> 0:26:15.830 which is going to be released later this year but 0:26:15.830 --> 0:26:19.570 you can now pre-order it, is called anti-Semitism in the 0:26:19.570 --> 0:26:22.290 End times. How the rise of the world's oldest hatred 0:26:22.450 --> 0:26:25.730 is paving the way for Messiah's return. So there's this 0:26:25.730 --> 0:26:28.370 wonderful section in the book where you really do a timeline, 0:26:28.369 --> 0:26:31.970 going from the Church Fathers all the way to the Holocaust, 0:26:31.970 --> 0:26:35.890 and former forward that talks about anti-Semitism. And I think 0:26:35.890 --> 0:26:38.929 that's extremely important for people who don't know world history 0:26:39.130 --> 0:26:41.010 and exactly what the Jews have had to go through 0:26:41.010 --> 0:26:44.970 and how anti-Semitism has manifested itself in millennia. And then 0:26:44.970 --> 0:26:47.130 you move to a section which I found fascinating, called 0:26:47.130 --> 0:26:50.209 the New and More Dangerous Age of anti-Semitism. And you 0:26:50.210 --> 0:26:53.850 use a phrase that I found intriguing called eschatological anti-Semitism. 0:26:54.010 --> 0:26:56.370 So let me, before we get into this, ask a question, 0:26:56.369 --> 0:26:58.810 which is, and I don't think I'm the only believer 0:26:58.810 --> 0:27:01.410 in Jesus who had the same thought. Why, after the 0:27:01.410 --> 0:27:05.810 atrocity that was committed on October 7th, 2023, when you 0:27:05.810 --> 0:27:08.890 would have thought that the sensitivities and sympathies of the 0:27:08.890 --> 0:27:12.570 world would have said, you don't put babies in ovens, 0:27:12.570 --> 0:27:15.689 you don't butcher children, you don't kill mothers who are 0:27:15.690 --> 0:27:18.380 holding babies in their arms. The list goes on and 0:27:18.420 --> 0:27:21.580 on and on. The word atrocity doesn't come close to 0:27:21.619 --> 0:27:25.300 describing what you saw on that date. By the way, 0:27:25.300 --> 0:27:27.700 for the record, I was invited by the Israeli embassy 0:27:27.700 --> 0:27:31.020 to see the 43 unedited minutes of footage. I said no, 0:27:31.619 --> 0:27:34.419 because you can't unsee what you've already seen. I knew 0:27:34.460 --> 0:27:35.859 enough to know that it was, and I'll use the 0:27:35.859 --> 0:27:37.980 word again demonic. I didn't need to see it again. 0:27:38.300 --> 0:27:43.260 But after that event, Olivier, anti-Semitism didn't go down. It 0:27:43.260 --> 0:27:44.740 went up. Why? 0:27:46.380 --> 0:27:48.899 Uh, I think, uh, you know, I. 0:27:49.580 --> 0:27:51.940 I think it went up because we are in that 0:27:51.940 --> 0:27:55.900 time of our history where, uh, and that's the case. 0:27:55.900 --> 0:27:58.860 I'm trying to, uh, to, to to, uh, make in 0:27:58.859 --> 0:28:03.580 the book we are in the end times. We are in, uh, 0:28:03.700 --> 0:28:07.060 you know, I don't like to to do too much 0:28:07.100 --> 0:28:10.899 or any at all, uh, what's called newspaper exegesis. So 0:28:10.900 --> 0:28:14.780 I don't like to, to try to fit, uh, you know, uh, the. 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.000 I'm very careful when I look at prophecy, but when 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.680 I look at a prophecy, like for instance, people right 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:25.639 now are talking right and left all all over the 0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.480 place about are we in Ezekiel 38, Gog and Magog? Well, 0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.000 it's Gog and Magog is going to happen. It's a 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:36.160 real war. It will happen. But but we can speculate 0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.800 all we want. It's not going to get us any 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:42.040 closer to it by speculating. But I can tell you 0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:48.600 right now that Zechariah 12 three is is happening in 0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.920 real time, in front of our eyes as we speak. 0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:56.280 The whole world is going to go against Jerusalem, against 0:28:56.280 --> 0:29:01.400 the Jewish people. In Zechariah 12 three is clearly happening 0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.280 right now. It says in the Bible, and if I can, 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.720 if I can read that verse, uh, but it will 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.680 be in that day that I will make Jerusalem a 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:14.010 heavy stone for that for all the peoples All heated 0:29:14.010 --> 0:29:16.650 up will be severely injured, and all the nations of 0:29:16.650 --> 0:29:18.930 the earth will be gathered against it. This is a 0:29:18.930 --> 0:29:20.970 time where everybody in the world is going to go 0:29:20.970 --> 0:29:24.290 against Jerusalem. Everybody. Now, that doesn't mean everybody like you 0:29:24.290 --> 0:29:27.170 and me and all included, but all the nations will 0:29:27.170 --> 0:29:30.010 be represented. They will not be one, one safe place, 0:29:30.010 --> 0:29:34.530 maybe to the exception of, of course, Israel. Uh, and 0:29:34.530 --> 0:29:36.850 so we are in that time right now where we're 0:29:36.850 --> 0:29:40.690 seeing there's no other explanation, Janet, uh, for for what's 0:29:40.690 --> 0:29:45.010 happening 2 or 3 days after October 7th, 2023, then 0:29:45.010 --> 0:29:47.650 to look at this and say, we are now in 0:29:47.690 --> 0:29:51.370 the in in the active time of fulfillment of Zechariah 0:29:51.370 --> 0:29:52.050 12 three. 0:29:53.050 --> 0:29:56.210 Wow. I appreciate what you said about Ezekiel, and you 0:29:56.210 --> 0:29:59.209 and I share exactly the same timeline for eschatology. So 0:29:59.210 --> 0:30:02.330 I so appreciate everything that you just said. So when 0:30:02.330 --> 0:30:05.930 we talk about this rise in anti-Semitism is hand in 0:30:05.930 --> 0:30:09.770 glove with the anticipated return of Jesus before you and 0:30:09.770 --> 0:30:13.310 I are taken up. First Thessalonians, How is that going? What? 0:30:13.390 --> 0:30:15.230 And we don't want to put in. It's. I don't 0:30:15.230 --> 0:30:18.390 want eisegesis. I want solid exegesis. What does the word 0:30:18.430 --> 0:30:20.750 tell us in terms of what we should be looking 0:30:20.750 --> 0:30:24.230 for specifically about the Jewish people before Jesus has returned? 0:30:24.230 --> 0:30:27.910 Zechariah 12 three is certainly one of the passages we 0:30:27.910 --> 0:30:28.710 have to look at. 0:30:29.270 --> 0:30:33.150 Well, another passage you can look at is, um, uh, 0:30:34.470 --> 0:30:40.830 Ezekiel 36. Ezekiel 36 tells us about the return, and 0:30:40.830 --> 0:30:44.030 that's another I would venture to say, the two, the 0:30:44.030 --> 0:30:45.990 two prophecies that I can, you know, take to the 0:30:45.990 --> 0:30:50.110 bank right now is Zechariah, Zechariah 12 three, um, which, 0:30:50.110 --> 0:30:52.750 by the way, Zechariah 12 three, you need to read 0:30:52.750 --> 0:30:56.110 the rest of Zechariah 12, because Zechariah 12 nine, God 0:30:56.150 --> 0:30:58.510 tells us he will go after all the nations that 0:30:58.510 --> 0:31:02.350 go after Jerusalem, so no stone left unturned. God will 0:31:02.350 --> 0:31:05.030 punish all those who go against the Jews. That's the 0:31:05.030 --> 0:31:08.190 the two bookends of Zechariah 12. If you if you will. 0:31:08.230 --> 0:31:11.760 But in, in Ezekiel 36. 76. In. In the latter 0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.360 part of the of the chapter, right before the the 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.360 division of the dry bones, we read that God is 0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.880 saying to the Jewish people, I will take you from 0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.720 the nations, gather you from all the lands, and bring 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.280 you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.040 water on you. So what we see here is we 0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.520 see God saying, hey, I put you in a diaspora 0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.320 from 78 years. The destruction of the temple in Jerusalem 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.160 to today, you've been you've been dispersed all over the 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.920 world in the diaspora. I will take you back from 0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.240 the diaspora and bring you back into the land. Which 0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:46.280 land has not France? That's not America. It's Israel. And, 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:51.240 you know, and, uh, and so we know that right 0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.600 now where we can see is the return of the 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:57.760 Jewish people in unbelief, and that we're seeing it. We've 0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.800 seen a lot of it from the country that I 0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.640 was born in the country I'm from France. Um, they 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.040 lost about 50,000, about 10% of their Jews over the 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:11.460 last 15 or 16 years. And and Janet, here's a 0:32:11.460 --> 0:32:13.060 here's a question that I'm not even sure I have 0:32:13.060 --> 0:32:14.780 an answer for you, but it's a question that I'm 0:32:14.820 --> 0:32:18.940 asked often. Do you think that anti-Semitism is a reason 0:32:18.940 --> 0:32:22.100 why the Jews are going back to Israel? Is God 0:32:22.260 --> 0:32:25.580 behind that? Well, God is not the author of anti-Semitism, 0:32:26.420 --> 0:32:30.260 but as God and His Bible at times allowed for 0:32:30.260 --> 0:32:33.300 things to happen to the Jews that would force them 0:32:33.300 --> 0:32:37.540 into making a decision for him. The answer is yes. So, 0:32:37.700 --> 0:32:40.380 you know, it's part it's part of the equation. It's 0:32:40.380 --> 0:32:42.380 a hard one for me because we know God did 0:32:42.380 --> 0:32:45.300 not cause the Holocaust, but he allowed it to happen 0:32:45.300 --> 0:32:48.820 in his in his, uh, divine wisdom. He allowed for 0:32:48.820 --> 0:32:53.220 the Holocaust to happen. And so he's allowing this anti-Semitism 0:32:53.220 --> 0:32:56.780 to happen right now. And it's really, uh, in many ways, 0:32:56.820 --> 0:32:58.500 pushing Jews back to the land. 0:32:58.860 --> 0:33:01.140 Yeah, yeah. I think there's such wisdom in what you 0:33:01.140 --> 0:33:03.660 just said. So let me go back to 48. So 0:33:04.020 --> 0:33:07.390 is there any question in your mind? She asks, knowing 0:33:07.470 --> 0:33:10.150 it's at the core, a rhetorical question, but is there 0:33:10.150 --> 0:33:13.590 any question in your mind that 1948, when Israel was 0:33:13.590 --> 0:33:16.870 declared the Jewish state, that that was the fulfillment of prophecy? 0:33:17.990 --> 0:33:22.990 No. There's no. Well, I have a slightly different approach 0:33:22.990 --> 0:33:25.550 on this, because some people and I don't know if 0:33:25.550 --> 0:33:27.790 this is you as well. Some people say, can a 0:33:27.790 --> 0:33:30.750 nation can a nation be born in one day? And 0:33:30.750 --> 0:33:32.230 then they look at this and they go, this is 0:33:32.270 --> 0:33:35.870 a fulfillment that took place in 1948. I think the 0:33:35.870 --> 0:33:37.590 verse that says, can a nation be more than one 0:33:37.590 --> 0:33:39.950 day is going to be the saving of the Jews 0:33:39.990 --> 0:33:44.550 at the end of the tribulation? That's what it's referring to. 1948, 0:33:44.550 --> 0:33:49.350 to me, is a prerequisite for prophecy being fulfilled. Israel 0:33:49.350 --> 0:33:52.430 has to exist for all those prophecies to be fulfilled. 0:33:52.430 --> 0:33:54.590 So I don't think anywhere in the Bible you can 0:33:54.590 --> 0:33:58.310 find a definite verse where you can be dogmatic about 0:33:58.310 --> 0:34:02.990 1948 being prophesied, but it's a prerequisite. That's my position 0:34:02.990 --> 0:34:03.510 on it. 0:34:03.550 --> 0:34:06.930 And I heartily concur. So now let me ask another question, 0:34:06.930 --> 0:34:09.170 because this is a debate we're hearing in the church 0:34:09.170 --> 0:34:12.570 writ large recently, and I want there to be gracious 0:34:12.570 --> 0:34:15.330 conversation here. So come, let us reason together. So you 0:34:15.370 --> 0:34:20.050 quoted Zechariah. You quoted Ezekiel. You talked about the precursor 0:34:20.050 --> 0:34:24.330 in the fulfillment of prophecy of Israel in 1948. But 0:34:24.330 --> 0:34:27.370 that really begs the question, is there anything that you 0:34:27.370 --> 0:34:30.290 and I could take away from Scripture that says, somehow 0:34:30.290 --> 0:34:34.610 between Malachi and Matthew, Israel, the nation is no longer Israel, 0:34:34.610 --> 0:34:37.250 the nation in the New Testament. It now is the 0:34:37.290 --> 0:34:40.489 church capital C universal. And when you talk about being 0:34:40.489 --> 0:34:44.010 grafted on, you tear away the non-believing Jews. You graft 0:34:44.010 --> 0:34:47.290 on the believing Gentiles. That's what we're talking about. That 0:34:47.290 --> 0:34:50.969 tree represents the church. That's not the nation of Israel. 0:34:50.969 --> 0:34:52.730 That's what some are saying. What do you say? 0:34:54.170 --> 0:34:58.210 This what you just described, Janet is known in many 0:34:58.210 --> 0:35:03.810 circles as replacement theology. And, uh, it's, uh. Okay, let 0:35:03.810 --> 0:35:06.420 me let me let me be, uh, mild about it. 0:35:06.460 --> 0:35:07.620 It's from the pit of hell. 0:35:11.020 --> 0:35:13.860 Let me be subtle and mild about it. Um. 0:35:14.140 --> 0:35:18.620 Replacement theology is a false theology that you, uh, you 0:35:18.660 --> 0:35:21.860 just explained very well that says that the Jews had 0:35:21.860 --> 0:35:25.980 their chance. They they rejected Jesus as the Messiah. So 0:35:25.980 --> 0:35:31.540 now God is turning to the Gentiles, the Gentiles. And 0:35:31.540 --> 0:35:35.180 you say, you know what? You're the new Israel now. And, uh, 0:35:35.219 --> 0:35:40.100 you first of all, there's about 70 plus, uh, 72, 73. Uh, 0:35:40.100 --> 0:35:44.420 it depends on what version you look 70 some occurrence 0:35:44.420 --> 0:35:47.379 of the word Israel in the New Testament. You would 0:35:47.380 --> 0:35:52.060 have to do theological gymnastics to make them mean the church. 0:35:52.580 --> 0:35:57.859 They just don't. They just don't. And, uh, the the 0:35:57.860 --> 0:36:01.580 problem I have with, with the church replacing Israel is 0:36:01.580 --> 0:36:04.480 that if the church replaces Israel, then basically what we 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.800 are saying is that the promises that God made are not. 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.560 It didn't really make promises that you're going to keep, 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:11.960 and maybe we can pick up on that when we 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.880 come back, because that's important. We need to finish that one. 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.359 Oh, two peas in a pod. Olivier, I'm so glad 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.240 you said that, because that is huge. This isn't just 0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.680 about replacement theology. This is questioning at its core, the 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.839 character of God. Does he not keep his promises? Is 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.520 he not a promise keeping God? So I'm so glad 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.520 we're going to return to this. This is why I say, Olivier, 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.359 count on it. I need to talk to you many 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.759 more times than just today. The brand new book that 0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.040 is coming out is extremely important for you to read. 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.480 You can preorder it anti-Semitism in the End Times. Have 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.279 a link on my information page so you can do 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.720 just that. More with Olivier Melnick, President and executive director 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:56.000 of Shalom and Messiah right after this. We're visiting with 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.480 Olivier Melnick, who's the president and executive director of Shalom 0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.370 in Messiah. It's a nonprofit organization that exists to expose 0:37:03.370 --> 0:37:07.130 and fight anti-Semitism, as well as equip and mobilize Christians 0:37:07.290 --> 0:37:09.930 to lead the Jewish people to Messiah. Amen and Amen 0:37:09.930 --> 0:37:12.009 to that. He has a new book. He's a prolific author, 0:37:12.010 --> 0:37:13.489 but he's got a new book coming out that you 0:37:13.489 --> 0:37:17.130 can preorder right now called antisemitism in the End Times 0:37:17.290 --> 0:37:19.810 How the Rise of the World's Oldest Hatred is Paving 0:37:19.810 --> 0:37:22.210 the way for Messiah's Return. I also have a link 0:37:22.210 --> 0:37:26.410 to his ministry Shalom, Shalom in Messiah. Com and we've 0:37:26.450 --> 0:37:28.730 gotten to a very key and crucial point in our 0:37:28.730 --> 0:37:33.009 conversation that must be addressed with grace, always seasoned with salt. 0:37:33.010 --> 0:37:36.210 But this idea that's being promulgated that somehow between Malachi 0:37:36.210 --> 0:37:38.450 and Matthew, God changes his mind and all of the 0:37:38.450 --> 0:37:40.969 promises he makes about the nation of Israel and the 0:37:40.969 --> 0:37:44.330 Jewish people are somehow replaced in the New Testament, and 0:37:44.330 --> 0:37:46.690 it no longer means the nation of Israel or the 0:37:46.690 --> 0:37:50.570 Jewish people. It means the church capital C universal. And this. 0:37:50.610 --> 0:37:52.450 You touched on this, Olivia, just before the break. And 0:37:52.450 --> 0:37:54.610 I think it's profound, and it really is the linchpin 0:37:54.610 --> 0:37:57.529 in this entire conversation. The implication here is that God 0:37:57.530 --> 0:38:00.270 doesn't keep his promises. It's questioning the character of God. 0:38:00.310 --> 0:38:01.310 Talk to me about this. 0:38:01.590 --> 0:38:05.069 Well, that would mean yes. That would mean that he 0:38:05.070 --> 0:38:08.750 is both a covenant breaker and a liar. Because God 0:38:08.790 --> 0:38:12.469 made eight covenants with mankind, five of them were made 0:38:12.469 --> 0:38:15.589 with Israel out of the eight, and the other three 0:38:15.630 --> 0:38:18.549 were with with mankind in general. The five he made 0:38:18.550 --> 0:38:22.950 with Israel, four of them are unconditional and eternal. Unconditional 0:38:22.950 --> 0:38:25.549 means simply that he will do what he says he 0:38:25.550 --> 0:38:30.310 will do, regardless of Israel's performance or obedience. And that's 0:38:30.310 --> 0:38:35.190 really important because we, the Jews, have disobeyed God multiple times, 0:38:35.190 --> 0:38:37.710 and it's all in the Bible. But God said, when 0:38:37.710 --> 0:38:40.109 it comes to the Abrahamic covenant, you know, Genesis 12, 0:38:40.110 --> 0:38:43.430 Genesis 15 he said, I will bless you. I will 0:38:43.430 --> 0:38:46.149 give you land, I will. And it's based not on 0:38:46.150 --> 0:38:50.790 our performance but on his character. And so, so God 0:38:50.790 --> 0:38:53.430 is not going to break his promise. And the question 0:38:53.430 --> 0:38:56.029 I have, the challenge I have for your audience is 0:38:56.030 --> 0:38:58.719 that if God is going to change his position. He's 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:00.640 going to break his promise and say, hey, you know what? 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.920 I'm done with the Jews. It's all to the Gentiles. 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:09.120 Now then, maybe salvation through through faith and the salvation 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.440 that we have, maybe it's not that secure. Maybe we 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.319 can lose our salvation because maybe God will change his 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:15.680 mind on how we can get to him. 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:17.279 Exactly. 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.400 So, so, and I want to read a quick verse 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.200 in first Corinthians, which is, uh, this is where I 0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:24.960 like to start. When I talk to people that believe 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:28.120 the church has replaced Israel, it's in the context of, uh, 0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.240 in the context of, of of food not to be eaten. 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:38.160 It's first Corinthians 1031, whether then you eat or drink 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.360 or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.920 Give no offense and listen to those groups. Give no 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.920 offense either to Jews or to Greeks or to the 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:50.880 Church of God. Wait a minute. If the Jew, if 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.960 the Greeks have replaced the Jews, then what? Do we 0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.939 have three groups in there because the church is made 0:39:56.940 --> 0:40:00.820 of Jews, Gentiles who have accepted Yeshua as the Messiah, 0:40:00.820 --> 0:40:03.060 who died for their sins. And once they get into 0:40:03.060 --> 0:40:06.020 the body, they remain Jews and Gentiles. But they are redeemed, 0:40:06.060 --> 0:40:09.140 they are saved, and they don't lose their ethnic background. 0:40:09.500 --> 0:40:13.380 Yeah, exactly. What about the faults? And this is very simplistic, 0:40:13.380 --> 0:40:15.219 but let me ask it this way. What about the 0:40:15.219 --> 0:40:17.259 people who think that one of the reasons that it 0:40:17.260 --> 0:40:20.020 is the church is because the Jews have, quote, turned 0:40:20.020 --> 0:40:23.380 their back on Jesus. I'm looking at the track record 0:40:23.380 --> 0:40:25.540 for the Gentiles thinking we got some problems in that 0:40:25.540 --> 0:40:26.300 area as well. 0:40:27.180 --> 0:40:30.180 My goodness, if turning your back on Jesus was to 0:40:30.219 --> 0:40:33.620 get you forgotten and replaced by another people group, God 0:40:33.620 --> 0:40:35.580 would change things all the time. 0:40:35.860 --> 0:40:36.819 Yes, people turn. 0:40:36.820 --> 0:40:39.219 Their back on Jesus. Even believers turn their back on 0:40:39.219 --> 0:40:40.739 Jesus on a regular basis. 0:40:40.940 --> 0:40:41.580 That's cool. 0:40:41.660 --> 0:40:46.299 It's called backsliding. So, so. But, but going back to 0:40:46.300 --> 0:40:49.779 the covenants. The covenants are the foundation of the Bible. 0:40:49.780 --> 0:40:53.340 The covenants are unconditional and eternal. You will not change 0:40:53.340 --> 0:40:56.310 his mind. God is not human, that he would change 0:40:56.310 --> 0:40:58.830 his mind. That's. I'm quoting a verse. I can't remember 0:40:58.830 --> 0:41:01.150 the address now, but God is not a man that 0:41:01.150 --> 0:41:02.030 he would change his mind. 0:41:02.070 --> 0:41:02.710 Yes. And he's. 0:41:02.710 --> 0:41:06.270 Promised. He's promised he would also never, never forsake Israel. 0:41:06.310 --> 0:41:08.230 There's so much more we can talk about. Janet, I'm 0:41:08.230 --> 0:41:10.149 so glad you want me to come back, because we 0:41:10.150 --> 0:41:11.590 have a lot more to talk about. 0:41:11.630 --> 0:41:13.710 Oh, a ton, a ton. And I, I have to 0:41:13.710 --> 0:41:15.509 tell you, I think this is one of the most 0:41:15.510 --> 0:41:18.990 important issues before the church right now, because I'm, I'm 0:41:19.030 --> 0:41:22.509 grieved when I see anti-Semitism being espoused by people who 0:41:22.550 --> 0:41:25.070 have made a profession of faith in Jesus Christ. To me, 0:41:25.070 --> 0:41:27.350 I don't know how water and oil can coexist. That 0:41:27.350 --> 0:41:29.430 that makes absolutely no sense to me. And I want 0:41:29.469 --> 0:41:33.069 to understand that. But then also, I'm very interested in 0:41:33.110 --> 0:41:35.510 making sure that my Jewish friends come to know Yeshua 0:41:35.550 --> 0:41:38.469 as Messiah. I pray for that regularly. I'm so glad 0:41:38.510 --> 0:41:40.790 Craig and I love and support ministries that are working 0:41:40.790 --> 0:41:44.750 in Israel to do exactly this right now. On that note, 0:41:45.030 --> 0:41:47.549 from your vantage point and you know what Chosen People 0:41:47.550 --> 0:41:49.230 is doing, you know about the work that you do 0:41:49.270 --> 0:41:52.110 through Shalom and Messiah. Is there a stirring in the 0:41:52.110 --> 0:41:55.089 midst of this anti-Semitism, do you sense a stirring among 0:41:55.090 --> 0:41:55.930 the Jewish people? 0:41:56.930 --> 0:42:01.290 Yes. I have been going to Israel. I've been there 0:42:01.290 --> 0:42:05.450 twice since the war for ministry purposes. And I'm supposed 0:42:05.450 --> 0:42:08.330 to go in August again if we can go. And 0:42:08.690 --> 0:42:10.730 we have been going there to bring supplies to the 0:42:10.730 --> 0:42:12.410 IDF to work with them. And I could tell you 0:42:12.410 --> 0:42:15.810 all kinds of stories another time. But you can see 0:42:15.810 --> 0:42:17.489 in the eyes of the people, I just got a 0:42:17.489 --> 0:42:19.850 video of thank yous today. They look at you and 0:42:19.850 --> 0:42:22.210 they go like, what are you doing here? What are 0:42:22.210 --> 0:42:24.850 you bringing? And it gives us opportunities to say, this 0:42:24.850 --> 0:42:27.330 is what we do because of what the Bible tells us. 0:42:27.530 --> 0:42:31.530 And there is a yes, there is an opening because 0:42:31.530 --> 0:42:34.129 there is no hope without Yeshua. And people see that 0:42:34.130 --> 0:42:36.210 we are, you know, people that are really putting their 0:42:36.210 --> 0:42:38.450 money where their mouth is. They're real. They're in Israel, 0:42:38.450 --> 0:42:40.690 they're making a difference. And I'm not saying that you 0:42:40.690 --> 0:42:42.410 can only make a difference if you go to Israel 0:42:42.410 --> 0:42:46.609 and help, but but you have to do something. We 0:42:46.610 --> 0:42:49.170 have at this point in our history, Christians have to 0:42:49.210 --> 0:42:50.770 put skin in the game. 0:42:50.810 --> 0:42:51.500 Because we. 0:42:51.500 --> 0:42:54.259 Don't know how much time we have left. And, uh, 0:42:54.620 --> 0:42:56.140 and there was so much I wanted to share with 0:42:56.140 --> 0:43:00.260 you about, uh, about this, um, how we at Gentleman 0:43:00.260 --> 0:43:04.020 Masai are equipping Christians to actually open their homes to 0:43:04.060 --> 0:43:06.180 become the new Righteous Among the Nations. We have to 0:43:06.180 --> 0:43:08.060 do another show just on that. 0:43:08.500 --> 0:43:10.380 Oh, I would love to be able to do something 0:43:10.380 --> 0:43:12.100 like that. Let me share with you. I talked to 0:43:12.100 --> 0:43:13.580 a friend who has a ministry that works in the 0:43:13.580 --> 0:43:16.060 Middle East, and he shared how there were some in 0:43:16.060 --> 0:43:19.100 Israel Orthodox Jews, if you can believe this, Olivier, Orthodox 0:43:19.100 --> 0:43:22.500 Jews who went to him and said, please share about Jesus. 0:43:22.500 --> 0:43:25.739 Because when the Muslims come to know Jesus, we end 0:43:25.739 --> 0:43:28.899 up having peace. So this is the idea that they're 0:43:28.900 --> 0:43:32.060 being wooed, they're seeing something different. If we can look 0:43:32.060 --> 0:43:35.340 at this rightly, because he's not willing that any should perish. 0:43:35.340 --> 0:43:37.140 And by the way, if you're reading the Bible, if 0:43:37.140 --> 0:43:39.140 you're going through life with the newspaper in one hand 0:43:39.340 --> 0:43:41.500 and the Bible in the other, you know that even 0:43:41.500 --> 0:43:45.860 in eschatology, the Jews play a significant role. So Jewish 0:43:45.860 --> 0:43:48.299 people are not going away anytime soon. So we need 0:43:48.300 --> 0:43:51.799 to understand this so that we can defend, we can protect, 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.720 we can share the good news. We can fight anti-Semitism, 0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:58.840 while also introducing Yeshua as the much anticipated, long hoped 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:02.280 for Messiah of the Jewish people. Olivier. The book is fabulous. 0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.120 I'm lucky I got a chance to read it ahead 0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:05.839 of time, so I hope my friends can catch my 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.439 enthusiasm for this book. Like I said, it doesn't come 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.880 out until October 7th of 2025. Not by accident. I 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.399 brilliant move on your part, Olivier, to have it come 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.919 out on the two year anniversary of that massacre. But 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:19.759 you can pre-order it now and you can get it. 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:21.080 I've got a link for you to be able to 0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:22.960 do that. And now, for many of you, this is 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.160 your first exposure to Shalom and Messiah Ministries. I hope 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:28.600 it's not your last. And Olivier, I'm going to tell you, 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.160 my A is like the Bible says, I'm keeping my. Yay! 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.920 I'm calling you back soon because I felt like we 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.239 just did a thimbles worth of an ocean full of 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.719 information in this book. It is tremendous. And praise God 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.960 for the work that you're doing. May your tribe increase. 0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:43.640 Thank you, friends, so much for joining us. We'll see 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.040 you next time on In the Market with Janet Parshall.