WEBVTT - Hour 1: What's Your Bible Question? 0:00:08.930 --> 0:00:11.810 Why should we read the Bible every day? Is it 0:00:11.810 --> 0:00:15.770 because it's great literature? Well, it's much more than that. 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.250 Stay with me and we'll talk about that in just 0:00:19.250 --> 0:00:22.489 a moment. Hello, friends. Welcome to Open Line with Michael 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:27.590 Dolnick Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America. I'm Michael Ray Dolnick. 0:00:27.590 --> 0:00:30.560 I'm the academic dean and professor of Jewish studies and 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.280 Bible at Moody Bible Institute. I'm so grateful that you're 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.430 joining me around the radio kitchen table, and we're talking 0:00:37.430 --> 0:00:42.500 about your questions about the Bible, God, and the spiritual life. 0:00:42.500 --> 0:00:44.960 If you have a question and you'd like to call 0:00:44.960 --> 0:01:00.640 the phone number here is (877) 548-3675. That's (877) 548-3675. And it's 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.650 always a good time to call right at the beginning 0:01:02.650 --> 0:01:07.120 of the program because people say, how do I get on? 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:14.710 And it's always busy. Well, the best way call right now. (877) 548-3675. 0:01:14.709 --> 0:01:18.819 With your question about the Bible, God or the spiritual life. 0:01:18.850 --> 0:01:21.970 Terry Haines is our producer today. Omar Mendoza is our 0:01:21.970 --> 0:01:25.300 tech guy. Lisa is answering the phones again. The phone 0:01:25.300 --> 0:01:31.600 number here. (877) 548-3675. It's time to get yourself a cup 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:35.500 of coffee. Open your Bible. We're about to study the 0:01:35.500 --> 0:01:41.740 scriptures together. You know, every week I open. Every week 0:01:41.740 --> 0:01:45.520 I actually close Open Line our Bible study across America 0:01:45.550 --> 0:01:48.370 by saying, keep reading the Bible and we'll talk about 0:01:48.370 --> 0:01:51.430 it next week. Why do I play such a value 0:01:51.430 --> 0:01:55.390 on reading the Bible regularly? The simple answer is that 0:01:55.390 --> 0:02:00.770 the Bible is inspired. It's God's word to us. A 0:02:00.770 --> 0:02:04.940 key verse about inspiration is found in second Timothy 316. 0:02:04.970 --> 0:02:09.320 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:14.660 for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness. The phrase 0:02:14.660 --> 0:02:22.130 all Scripture is inspired by God highlights three important principles. First, 0:02:22.130 --> 0:02:26.660 the scriptures themselves are inspired, not the authors of the Bible. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.780 Although the authors of the Scripture were said to be 0:02:29.780 --> 0:02:33.440 moved by God's Spirit. In Second Peter 121 and more 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.010 about that in a moment, Paul writes to Timothy that 0:02:37.010 --> 0:02:42.560 it's the Bible itself that's inspired, which literally means God 0:02:42.590 --> 0:02:48.800 breathed the single word. The word God breathed indicates the 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:53.180 Bible comes from God, that God exhaled the scriptures into being. 0:02:53.180 --> 0:02:56.030 When we read the word inspired, we may think it 0:02:56.030 --> 0:03:00.130 means breathing into something. Rather, this verse is saying that 0:03:00.130 --> 0:03:04.450 God breathed out the scriptures. The very words we read 0:03:04.450 --> 0:03:07.450 in the biblical text are breathed out by God. They 0:03:07.450 --> 0:03:10.660 don't become inspired when we read them and find something 0:03:10.690 --> 0:03:15.100 of value for our lives. The text of Scripture stands 0:03:15.100 --> 0:03:19.120 as God's Word even if we don't read it. But 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:24.100 of course we should second the entire Bible. The entire 0:03:24.100 --> 0:03:29.800 Bible is inspired. The scriptures are God's Word in their entirety. 0:03:29.830 --> 0:03:33.880 Some people say that when Paul wrote Second Timothy 316 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.180 about the scriptures being inspired, he was only referring to 0:03:37.210 --> 0:03:40.060 the Old Testament as that was what was all that 0:03:40.060 --> 0:03:42.910 was written at that point. And he didn't mean the 0:03:42.910 --> 0:03:47.350 New Testament. But in his previous letter to Timothy, in 0:03:47.350 --> 0:03:51.580 first Timothy, Paul said, For the Scripture says, you shall 0:03:51.580 --> 0:03:54.430 not muzzle the ox while he is threshing, and the 0:03:54.430 --> 0:03:58.860 laborer is worthy of his wages. That's in first Timothy 518. 0:03:58.890 --> 0:04:03.030 What's so significant about that verse? Paul is quoting two 0:04:03.030 --> 0:04:06.810 verses of Scripture here, both calling about Scripture, one from 0:04:06.810 --> 0:04:11.040 Deuteronomy 25 four. That's in the Old Testament and the 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.760 other from Luke ten seven in the New Testament. He 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:19.409 calls them both Scripture. It's likely that the Gospel of 0:04:19.410 --> 0:04:22.800 Luke was only written about five years before Paul's quotation 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:27.659 of it as Scripture. At about the same time, Peter, 0:04:28.110 --> 0:04:30.960 the acknowledged leader of the apostles, wrote in Second Peter 0:04:30.990 --> 0:04:34.860 316 that Paul wrote about salvation. Here's the quote in 0:04:34.860 --> 0:04:37.289 all his letters, in which there are some matters that 0:04:37.290 --> 0:04:41.159 are hard to understand. The untaught and unstable twist them 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.300 to their own destruction, and they all, as they do 0:04:45.300 --> 0:04:49.830 also with the rest of the scriptures. This shows Peter 0:04:49.830 --> 0:04:54.159 considered Paul's letters to be Scripture. Here's my point. By 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.810 the time Paul wrote Second Timothy 316 and said All 0:04:58.810 --> 0:05:03.039 Scripture is inspired, he meant the whole Bible was inspired, 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:08.500 including both Old and New Testaments. Here's the third principle. 0:05:08.529 --> 0:05:13.839 God's Holy Spirit moved human beings to produce the Bible. 0:05:13.870 --> 0:05:16.900 The Bible verse describing how God used human authors to 0:05:16.930 --> 0:05:20.320 write the books of the Bible is second Peter 121. 0:05:20.350 --> 0:05:24.130 For no prophecy was ever made by an act of 0:05:24.130 --> 0:05:28.780 human will. But men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke 0:05:28.779 --> 0:05:33.370 from God. The Holy Spirit empowered people to write Scripture 0:05:33.370 --> 0:05:38.020 by moving them, or bearing along human authors to speak 0:05:38.050 --> 0:05:41.289 and by inference, to write their words down. The word 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:46.570 translated moved. It's ferro in the Greek is used also 0:05:46.570 --> 0:05:50.770 in acts 2715, about a ship being driven by the wind. 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.570 In the same way, the wind bears a sailboat along. 0:05:54.570 --> 0:05:57.810 So the Holy Spirit moved the human authors to write 0:05:57.810 --> 0:06:02.730 the Bible. This explains the various writing styles and different 0:06:02.730 --> 0:06:06.780 perspectives of biblical authors. Just as the same wind can 0:06:06.810 --> 0:06:10.380 bear differing ships with different kinds of sails along in 0:06:10.380 --> 0:06:14.250 different ways, so the Holy Spirit can move writers with 0:06:14.250 --> 0:06:19.109 unique personalities and different styles to write down God's words. 0:06:19.260 --> 0:06:22.260 It's not the holy. It's not that the Holy Spirit 0:06:22.260 --> 0:06:28.530 dictated to human authors. Rather, there was a confluence of 0:06:28.529 --> 0:06:32.370 work between the human author and the divine author. The 0:06:32.370 --> 0:06:36.029 human author wrote using his own personality, style, message, even 0:06:36.029 --> 0:06:39.840 his own understanding, while being moved by the Holy Spirit. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.830 At the same time, the work of the spirit guaranteed 0:06:43.830 --> 0:06:47.250 the accuracy and truth of that message. It made the 0:06:47.250 --> 0:06:51.950 Bible inerrant. And we'll talk about that next week. Here's 0:06:51.950 --> 0:06:56.630 a simple idea. Since God gave us his inspired word, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.680 we should read it. My friend Larry, who leads a 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:06.080 messianic congregation in California, has read the Bible faithfully every 0:07:06.110 --> 0:07:11.030 day for 53 years now. Every day. I tease him 0:07:11.030 --> 0:07:14.630 about being an obsessive compulsive person, but the truth is 0:07:14.630 --> 0:07:18.140 really different. He says when he first became a follower 0:07:18.140 --> 0:07:23.360 of Yeshua Jesus the Messiah in January of 1972, someone 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.750 told him that the Bible is God's Word. He thought, 0:07:26.780 --> 0:07:32.000 how many people are longing to hear from God, to 0:07:32.030 --> 0:07:34.910 guide their lives, to understand why the world is the 0:07:34.910 --> 0:07:38.210 way it is or what the future holds? And then 0:07:38.210 --> 0:07:43.370 he thought, I can hear from God every day by 0:07:43.370 --> 0:07:47.240 reading His Word daily. And that's why he committed himself 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:52.650 to reading the scriptures every day. That sounds like a 0:07:52.650 --> 0:08:03.180 great example for us to adopt as well. I hope 0:08:03.180 --> 0:08:07.050 that gave you some encouragement about the Bible. And you 0:08:07.050 --> 0:08:10.740 know what made me think about talking about this today 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:17.550 is that we're, uh, we've got a great, uh, offer 0:08:17.550 --> 0:08:22.260 for you. Uh, a great resource. Uh, it's it's just 0:08:22.260 --> 0:08:27.000 really outstanding. It's called The Story of the Bible. It's 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.300 written by Doctor Jay Carlini, a friend of mine. Have 0:08:30.300 --> 0:08:32.760 you ever wondered how he got the Bible that we 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:38.640 read today? How the ancient manuscripts became a book? Well, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.850 the story of the Bible is a journey that we 0:08:41.850 --> 0:08:44.339 can go on as we read this book about how 0:08:44.340 --> 0:08:47.130 the scriptures develop from divine inspiration that I just talked 0:08:47.130 --> 0:08:53.449 about To transmission to modern translations. Doctor Lainey shows how 0:08:53.450 --> 0:08:56.720 God worked through human authors and scribes and translators to 0:08:56.750 --> 0:09:00.230 give us his written word. I believe this book will 0:09:00.230 --> 0:09:04.520 deepen our confidence in the Bible's reliability, while answering a 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.440 lot of the questions that we all have about where 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.970 the scriptures came from. So the reason we're offering this 0:09:10.970 --> 0:09:14.840 is as a way to say thank you for your 0:09:14.870 --> 0:09:18.290 gift of any size to open line. And we would 0:09:18.290 --> 0:09:22.489 so appreciate that. You know, your gifts that you send 0:09:23.179 --> 0:09:26.540 really keep open line on the air. And we really 0:09:26.540 --> 0:09:29.059 appreciate it. And we want to say thank you by 0:09:29.059 --> 0:09:31.339 sending you a copy of The Story of the Bible. 0:09:31.370 --> 0:09:33.829 If you'd like a copy, it's yours. When you give 0:09:33.830 --> 0:09:37.550 a gift of any size, just go to our website, 0:09:37.550 --> 0:09:50.200 Open Line radio.org or call (888) 644-7122. That's 47122. Okay. We're 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:51.850 going to go to the phones right now and talk 0:09:51.850 --> 0:09:56.709 to Robert in Fort Lauderdale, Florida listening on RMM. Welcome 0:09:56.710 --> 0:09:58.750 to Open Line Robert. How can I help you today? 0:09:58.780 --> 0:10:03.310 Yeah. Hi. How are you? Um, I got a question on, uh. 0:10:03.309 --> 0:10:08.590 I'm sorry, not numbers 24 seven. Um, it's an oracle 0:10:08.590 --> 0:10:12.220 of Balam. And in mid section it says in his 0:10:12.220 --> 0:10:17.440 king shall be higher than Agag. I'm a little confused 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:23.560 because it seems like numbers was written like Samuel. Uh, 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:28.030 Agag is mentioned in first Samuel. And I was surprised 0:10:28.030 --> 0:10:31.270 to see it mentioned here. And isn't that these aren't 0:10:31.270 --> 0:10:36.190 contemporary books. Didn't isn't this way before Agag was born. 0:10:36.190 --> 0:10:37.450 Can you explain that? 0:10:37.660 --> 0:10:37.990 Yeah. 0:10:37.990 --> 0:10:41.860 It's, uh, Matthew Henry doesn't mention anything about my question. 0:10:42.220 --> 0:10:46.339 It's a prophecy. It's an oracle, and it's tough. There 0:10:46.340 --> 0:10:48.770 was no king in Israel, and yet this is a 0:10:48.770 --> 0:10:56.600 king that will come from Jacob. And clearly, if we 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.990 read the Hebrew text as it is, it's his king 0:10:59.990 --> 0:11:05.000 will be higher than Agag. Agag being the king that, uh, 0:11:05.270 --> 0:11:09.890 Saul was supposed to put to death from the Amalekites. 0:11:09.890 --> 0:11:14.660 And when he didn't, he lost the kingship. And then he, 0:11:14.690 --> 0:11:20.809 Agag was, uh, removed. And who became king instead of Saul, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.810 who was higher than Agag? This would be a prophecy 0:11:23.809 --> 0:11:27.890 of David. Okay, I hate wait. You know, Robert, I'm 0:11:27.890 --> 0:11:33.439 not done. Sorry. One minute. Here's the thing. I think 0:11:33.470 --> 0:11:38.150 it should say his king shall be higher than Gog. 0:11:38.510 --> 0:11:41.960 If you look at the version of the Samaritan Pentateuch 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:48.160 or the Greek Septuagint, It doesn't say Agag. It says Gog. 0:11:48.370 --> 0:11:53.440 And Gog is not someone that we know in history. 0:11:53.470 --> 0:11:58.450 He's mentioned in Ezekiel 38. He's the end time enemy 0:11:58.450 --> 0:12:01.840 of Israel and the king that will defeat him and 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.050 be higher than him is the messianic king. So I 0:12:05.050 --> 0:12:08.140 think the based on the variant reading this is a 0:12:08.140 --> 0:12:11.440 prophecy of the Messiah. And it says if we read 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.130 it that way, his king will be greater than Gog, 0:12:15.130 --> 0:12:20.110 and his kingdom will be exalted. And so this is 0:12:20.110 --> 0:12:22.720 talking about the messianic king. And it's interesting because in 0:12:22.900 --> 0:12:30.610 Ezekiel 3817, when it talks about Gog, here's what it says. Uh, 0:12:31.090 --> 0:12:33.850 are you the one I spoke about in former times 0:12:33.850 --> 0:12:38.200 through my servants, the prophets? And really, there's no other 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.800 place where Gog is mentioned previous to this except in 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:46.050 numbers 24 over seven. So I think Ezekiel is talking 0:12:46.050 --> 0:12:48.810 about numbers 24 over seven. So. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:49.380 Right. 0:12:49.410 --> 0:12:50.040 Okay. 0:12:50.490 --> 0:12:52.050 Explained it. Thank you. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.540 Okay. Thank. Thanks for your call. We're going to take 0:12:54.540 --> 0:12:59.220 a break here. And when we come back, uh, we'll 0:12:59.220 --> 0:13:08.370 talk with you. You can always call (877) 548-3675. That's the 0:13:08.370 --> 0:13:11.040 phone number to call. And we'll talk about your question 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.740 about the Bible, God or the spiritual life. Looking forward 0:13:13.740 --> 0:13:15.420 to talking with you in just a moment. This is 0:13:15.420 --> 0:13:18.570 Michael Ray Dolnick on Open Line. We'll be right back. 0:13:33.090 --> 0:13:36.000 Welcome back to Open Line. So glad to be with 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.640 you today. My name is Michael Ray Dolnick. 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Welcome to Open Line. Charlene, how 0:16:54.210 --> 0:16:55.230 can I help you today? 0:16:55.260 --> 0:16:58.920 Well thank you. I was the caregiver of my mother. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.700 And after she passed, I had some extra time. So 0:17:02.700 --> 0:17:06.629 I went to a synagogue on Sabbath to pray. Now, 0:17:06.630 --> 0:17:09.959 I'm a devout Christian, and I fell in love with 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:14.880 Jewish prayer from the siddur, especially Shema, Shemoneh Esrei and 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.820 the Kaddish. I just wanted to know if you ever 0:17:17.820 --> 0:17:20.970 pray prayers from the siddur and how you adapt them 0:17:20.970 --> 0:17:22.170 as a Christian. 0:17:23.190 --> 0:17:27.929 Well, yeah, I have used, uh, the siddur particularly. There's 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:33.810 a messianic, some of our messianic congregations, uh, uh, use 0:17:33.810 --> 0:17:39.290 the siddur, a messianic siddur that uses these traditional prayers 0:17:39.290 --> 0:17:44.150 but adapts them theologically. I think that's something that's really important. 0:17:44.180 --> 0:17:48.770 I have another friend who's a very, very learned PhD, 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:54.560 leader of a messianic synagogue, and he uses a traditional siddur. 0:17:54.590 --> 0:18:00.140 But because he's very capable, he's able to do adaptations 0:18:00.140 --> 0:18:05.990 of it, uh, to so that it fits his, his 0:18:06.140 --> 0:18:09.830 teachings of the Bible fully with Jesus being the Messiah. 0:18:09.830 --> 0:18:14.360 And so, uh, there are also some things that people misunderstand, like, 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.139 for example, you mentioned the Kaddish, right? A lot of 0:18:18.140 --> 0:18:19.820 people think that's a prayer for the dead. If you 0:18:19.820 --> 0:18:23.030 read the words, it's just a prayer that people who 0:18:23.030 --> 0:18:25.670 are grieving, who have lost a loved one say for 0:18:25.670 --> 0:18:29.840 a year. But it's really about glorifying God. It's a 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.230 way of daily glorifying God and saying, even though I've 0:18:33.230 --> 0:18:35.830 lost this loved one, I glorify you, God, that it's 0:18:35.830 --> 0:18:41.920 trusting your sovereignty and and and your greatness. Uh uh, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.310 glorified and sanctified be his great name. You know, that's 0:18:45.310 --> 0:18:46.869 how it opens. And so. 0:18:47.020 --> 0:18:47.680 Praise. 0:18:47.710 --> 0:18:50.530 Yeah. And so it's not really a prayer for the dead. 0:18:50.530 --> 0:18:54.369 It's a praise by the living to the sovereignty of God. 0:18:54.369 --> 0:18:56.980 That's what it's about. So there's a lot of really 0:18:56.980 --> 0:18:59.619 good things in there. Uh, there are some things that 0:18:59.619 --> 0:19:02.290 I probably would say have to be careful about. Much 0:19:02.290 --> 0:19:06.070 of it is the Psalms. Uh, and so but you 0:19:06.070 --> 0:19:08.950 have to do it critically, because every now and then, like, 0:19:08.950 --> 0:19:12.250 there'll be a, there's the Anima Amin, the I believe 0:19:12.250 --> 0:19:16.000 with perfect faith. And there are many things God can't 0:19:16.030 --> 0:19:20.020 take human form in there in that one. Uh, it's 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:24.220 so God can't become a man. It denies the incarnation. Uh, 0:19:24.220 --> 0:19:27.250 I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah, 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.550 implying that he hasn't come yet. Uh, so you have 0:19:30.550 --> 0:19:33.170 to be very careful when you're in some prayers. like 0:19:33.170 --> 0:19:36.860 the Anima Amin, because I think about nine out of 0:19:36.859 --> 0:19:40.550 the 13 articles of faith that are listed there. Uh, 0:19:40.550 --> 0:19:44.990 we would we would struggle with as followers of Jesus. So, uh, 0:19:45.230 --> 0:19:48.170 I think it's really important that you do it critically. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.600 Maybe one of the best things to do is find 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:55.550 a really good messianic siddur, uh, that already has done 0:19:55.550 --> 0:20:01.520 the critical, uh, contextualization that you're looking for. Okay, Charlene. 0:20:01.550 --> 0:20:03.200 I appreciate this. Thank you. 0:20:03.230 --> 0:20:06.859 Yeah. Thanks so much for your call. Uh, and, uh, 0:20:06.859 --> 0:20:13.730 Maria in Lakeland, Florida, listening on 91.1 FM. Wmnf. Welcome 0:20:13.730 --> 0:20:16.190 to Open Line. How can I help you today? 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:20.660 Well, I just have a question about the resuming of 0:20:20.660 --> 0:20:27.620 the Passover celebration in Second Chronicles, chapter 30, verse 26. 0:20:27.650 --> 0:20:32.710 It attributes it to Hezekiah, but then in Second Kings 0:20:32.710 --> 0:20:38.620 chapter 23, verse 22, it attributes it to Josiah. So 0:20:38.650 --> 0:20:41.350 I know there are no contradictions in the Bible. So 0:20:41.350 --> 0:20:46.960 I'm just wondering why Hezekiah and Josiah were each attributed 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.840 to resume this Passover celebration. 0:20:49.869 --> 0:20:56.830 Well, think about the chronology. Uh, Hezekiah who became king 0:20:56.830 --> 0:20:57.969 after him? 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:04.840 Oh, I'm not sure. 0:21:04.869 --> 0:21:11.350 Okay. Well, the it was the longest reigning king in 0:21:11.350 --> 0:21:15.729 Judah's history. Uh, King Manasseh, if you read. 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:15.940 Oh. 0:21:15.940 --> 0:21:21.220 That's right. You've got Hezekiah. Uh, Hezekiah restores the Passover 0:21:21.220 --> 0:21:25.720 in Second Chronicles. But then King Manasseh comes along. He's 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.870 12 years old when he becomes king, and he was 0:21:29.050 --> 0:21:34.710 reigned 55 years. Longest reigning king and his mother's name 0:21:34.710 --> 0:21:37.770 was Hephzibah, it says, and he did what was evil 0:21:37.770 --> 0:21:41.580 in the Lord's sight, imitating the detestable practices of the 0:21:41.580 --> 0:21:46.080 nations that the Lord had dispossessed before the Israelites. He 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:50.310 built the altars of the Baalim, the the bails, Baal gods, 0:21:50.550 --> 0:21:55.170 and the Asuras. Uh, and he he put them in 0:21:55.170 --> 0:22:00.540 the temple. He he brought pagan worship, Canaanite pagan worship 0:22:00.540 --> 0:22:03.180 into the holy Temple in Jerusalem. 0:22:03.780 --> 0:22:04.170 Mhm. 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.960 Guess what he didn't do. He didn't keep up his 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.420 father's work of keeping Passover. 0:22:09.869 --> 0:22:10.560 Okay. 0:22:10.590 --> 0:22:14.910 And then Josiah comes along. His son. Now Manasseh does repent. 0:22:14.940 --> 0:22:20.070 We know that from second Chronicles. Uh, but dies very 0:22:20.369 --> 0:22:26.070 shortly thereafter. And, uh, which gives us great hope for 0:22:26.070 --> 0:22:31.420 people who do, who ignore God, who resist him, who 0:22:31.420 --> 0:22:34.210 rebel against him. And yet at the end of life, 0:22:34.210 --> 0:22:36.310 they can turn to him and they are forgiven. And 0:22:36.310 --> 0:22:41.560 Manasseh was forgiven. However, it took his son Josiah to 0:22:41.590 --> 0:22:45.639 once again restore the Passover. That's what it's talking about 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.400 in Second Chronicles 20. Second Kings 23. 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:55.389 Second restoration. Yep. That's it. Okay. Okay. Well, I appreciate that. 0:22:55.420 --> 0:23:00.400 Yes, sir. Okay. Thanks for your call. Sure, I appreciate it. Uh, 0:23:00.430 --> 0:23:04.840 we're going to talk to Jody, listening on Wmbi in Chicago. 0:23:04.869 --> 0:23:07.420 Welcome to Open Line, Jody. How can I help you? 0:23:08.230 --> 0:23:15.280 I have a nephew who is questioning me about. He 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.680 keeps telling me the Jewish people because I tell them, 0:23:17.710 --> 0:23:20.230 you know, he's not happy what's going on with the 0:23:20.230 --> 0:23:23.500 Jewish people? And he thinks they're very corrupt. And I 0:23:23.500 --> 0:23:25.840 keep telling him, but the Bible tells us to pray 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:29.610 for them. And he's telling me that the Bible, the 0:23:29.609 --> 0:23:32.490 Jewish people today are not the same people from the Bible, 0:23:32.490 --> 0:23:34.710 and I don't know how to respond to that. 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:44.340 Well, uh. First of all, you know what's driving his opinion, right? 0:23:45.690 --> 0:23:49.710 Um, I'm he's doing he keeps talking about the Talmud 0:23:49.710 --> 0:23:52.439 and just how evil the Jewish people are. 0:23:52.470 --> 0:23:55.140 That's that's what I'm saying. So do you know what's 0:23:55.140 --> 0:24:00.359 driving that? This is called anti-Semitism or hatred of the 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:04.740 Jewish people. You can go all the way back in time. 0:24:04.740 --> 0:24:10.080 And one of the things that's most specific is the 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:16.980 Jewish people, for example. Uh, well, you don't have to 0:24:16.980 --> 0:24:19.260 go very far. The Nazis said the same thing. The 0:24:19.260 --> 0:24:23.190 Jewish people were corrupt. They said it was biologically, uh, 0:24:23.190 --> 0:24:26.720 made them corrupt. It was the the actual biology, but 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.900 they weren't the Jewish people of the Bible, that they 0:24:29.900 --> 0:24:35.240 were somehow different. British Israelism says, well, actually it's the 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:41.900 the white Anglo-Saxon Protestants who are the the Jewish people. Well, 0:24:41.900 --> 0:24:45.470 first of all, if you look at history, no other 0:24:45.470 --> 0:24:49.040 people has been as persecuted throughout time. Who else would 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:53.270 want to call themselves the Jewish people if, if that 0:24:53.270 --> 0:24:57.500 were the case? Uh, really going since the second century, 0:24:57.530 --> 0:25:01.940 Jewish people have been persecuted. Secondly, other people say, well, no, 0:25:01.940 --> 0:25:07.189 they're actually a Ukrainian people that adopted Judaism in in 0:25:07.190 --> 0:25:13.639 the Middle Ages. That's been disproven because genetic studies have 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:19.520 shown that the European Jews, the Jewish people from Central 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.760 and Eastern Europe have the same genetic code as the 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:27.720 Jewish people from the Mediterranean world. From the Sephardim. Uh, 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:32.850 the the people who are there. So it's just false, 0:25:32.850 --> 0:25:35.820 but it's driven by hatred of the Jewish people. And 0:25:35.820 --> 0:25:40.470 it's unfortunate. And I'm glad you don't share his views. So, uh, 0:25:40.470 --> 0:25:42.359 I hope that helps. We can talk more about it 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.460 another time, if you like. We're going to be right 0:25:44.460 --> 0:25:48.570 back with the mailbag. The Febc mailbag. This is open 0:25:48.570 --> 0:26:09.660 line with Michael Zelnick. Stay with us. Welcome back to 0:26:09.690 --> 0:26:12.899 Open Line with me, Michael Zelnick. 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It's something you'll 0:26:59.330 --> 0:27:02.359 really be interested in if you listen to that podcast. 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:06.919 And now joining me for the Febc mailbag is Teairra 0:27:06.950 --> 0:27:08.600 hey Teairra Haines. 0:27:08.630 --> 0:27:10.790 Good morning Michael. How are you today? 0:27:10.790 --> 0:27:14.780 I'm doing great. It's good to see you. So we've 0:27:14.780 --> 0:27:17.270 got a bunch of questions that have come in. I 0:27:17.270 --> 0:27:19.610 think it's important for people to know how to send 0:27:19.609 --> 0:27:21.800 their question. They think, where did these come from? I 0:27:21.820 --> 0:27:24.400 think it's a good idea to go to the Open 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.780 Line radio.org website. Our website. Open line radio.org. You can 0:27:28.780 --> 0:27:32.080 check out everything that's there. Uh, and one of the 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.750 things that you'll see there, it says ask Michael a question. 0:27:34.750 --> 0:27:38.680 Click on that and fill out the form. And you 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.379 will be able to have your question added to the mailbag. 0:27:41.380 --> 0:27:44.560 Just like these that we're going to talk about right now. 0:27:44.619 --> 0:27:49.990 So wonderful. Yes, that's exactly what Wayne did. Wayne from 0:27:49.990 --> 0:27:56.050 Minnesota listening through CFRB. He says, I am 70 years 0:27:56.050 --> 0:27:59.350 old and still work part time. Out of curiosity, are 0:27:59.350 --> 0:28:02.680 there any scriptures related to retirement? 0:28:03.100 --> 0:28:07.360 I am not aware of any scriptures related to retirement. 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.860 I know that many times when we look at the, uh, 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:17.170 the list of the kings, when we look at the, the, 0:28:18.010 --> 0:28:22.010 the mysterious numbers of the Hebrew kings as Thiele called it. 0:28:22.010 --> 0:28:25.280 I think. Who wrote the book about that? There did 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.430 appear to be times when people got to a certain age, 0:28:28.430 --> 0:28:32.570 and they established a co-regency to reduce the amount of 0:28:32.570 --> 0:28:36.619 work they were doing as they got older, but not 0:28:36.619 --> 0:28:42.470 that they quit working. Uh, so I don't think that 0:28:42.470 --> 0:28:45.350 the Bible ever talks about retirement, but that doesn't mean that, 0:28:45.350 --> 0:28:49.910 for example, we can officially retire. I would say, uh, 0:28:49.910 --> 0:28:53.300 the reason I would say that is it's part of 0:28:53.300 --> 0:28:56.120 the governmental responsibilities. It will change the work that we 0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.700 do if we retire. But I don't think anyone of 0:28:58.700 --> 0:29:01.670 us ever retires from the Lord's service. We might change 0:29:01.670 --> 0:29:05.450 how we do it. Uh, every person, I mean, you 0:29:05.450 --> 0:29:07.520 can keep working, you know, whatever you want to do. 0:29:07.550 --> 0:29:09.290 There are a lot of different jobs that people do 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:14.600 part time after their official retirement, but I. I think 0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:18.140 we're 100% the Lord's. And we while when we retire 0:29:18.140 --> 0:29:23.200 we may shift and do something different. We're always serving 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:28.000 the Lord. I love it. I was talking with Joe Stoll, 0:29:28.030 --> 0:29:30.700 former president of Moody Bible Institute. He was the president 0:29:30.700 --> 0:29:36.760 of another university. And when he finally retired from that position, 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.270 he said, I didn't retire from God's kingdom. I just 0:29:40.270 --> 0:29:44.830 retired from that position. And I loved it that when 0:29:44.860 --> 0:29:48.010 Mark Jobe, our president, approached him about being an ambassador 0:29:48.010 --> 0:29:51.940 for Moody and an advisor to him, Joe accepted that 0:29:51.940 --> 0:29:55.480 part time position because we love him and he's so 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.850 part of Moody, and he didn't retire from the kingdom. 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.270 This enabled him as he was seeking God's direction. What's 0:30:01.270 --> 0:30:04.330 the next kingdom work I'm going to do? And and 0:30:04.330 --> 0:30:06.790 that was it. Because we never retire from the kingdom 0:30:06.790 --> 0:30:09.310 of God. I would say I love that. 0:30:09.310 --> 0:30:12.130 Thank you so much. Thank you. We also. 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.230 By the way, you haven't retired yet, have you, Teairra? 0:30:14.260 --> 0:30:16.660 Oh, not not at all. I have quite a few 0:30:16.690 --> 0:30:21.420 years before I retire or redirect my purpose. 0:30:21.450 --> 0:30:22.620 Yep. That's it. 0:30:22.650 --> 0:30:27.180 Yes, yes, we have Deb from Facebook. Is there a 0:30:27.180 --> 0:30:29.970 good reference book to learn more about Israel from its 0:30:29.970 --> 0:30:34.650 beginning to today in political, geographical, spiritual and cultural ways? 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:36.720 You know, it would be nice if there was just 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:42.180 one book. Uh, I'm not sure there is one book 0:30:42.180 --> 0:30:45.030 that does that. I think if you want to understand 0:30:45.030 --> 0:30:48.780 biblical Israel, a good history, that kind of takes us 0:30:48.780 --> 0:30:50.940 through the Bible. I'm not, you know, I don't know 0:30:50.940 --> 0:30:55.500 if she's referring here from its beginning to today. I 0:30:55.530 --> 0:30:59.370 there's a lot of books that you could read. There's 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.780 a History of Israel by Leon Wood. There's a Kingdom 0:31:03.780 --> 0:31:08.730 of Priests by Eugene Merrill. Those are good biblical histories. 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.580 A good history of the Jewish people that takes you 0:31:11.580 --> 0:31:15.030 to understand where they are today is actually by a 0:31:15.030 --> 0:31:20.350 British Anglican, not Jewish. It's called A history of the Jewish. 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:24.100 A history of the Jews by Paul Johnson. I think 0:31:24.100 --> 0:31:27.040 that would kind of take you through the whole history 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:32.260 to today. So maybe choosing a biblical history like Leon 0:31:32.260 --> 0:31:36.370 Wood's book or Eugene Merrill's and Paul Johnson's book that 0:31:36.370 --> 0:31:40.840 would take you through, uh, modern days and bring the geographical, 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.320 spiritual and cultural along with it. That's what I would say. 0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.900 But there's a whole lot of books that will, if 0:31:46.930 --> 0:31:52.030 you want the geographical, get a good, uh, geography, like 0:31:52.030 --> 0:31:56.410 the moody, uh, Atlas of the Bible. And then, of course, 0:31:56.410 --> 0:32:00.010 if you want more geography, there's, uh, there's an atlas 0:32:00.010 --> 0:32:03.430 of Jewish history. Uh, I can't remember the name of 0:32:03.430 --> 0:32:06.970 the the cartographer who did that, but it's called the 0:32:06.970 --> 0:32:09.610 Atlas of Jewish History. That would be helpful. 0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:15.390 Okay, excellent. So there are several resources that she can choose. Excellent. 0:32:15.390 --> 0:32:18.300 And then we also have Caleb from Alabama listening through 0:32:18.330 --> 0:32:23.910 Wmft in numbers 33 four. It talks about the Egyptians 0:32:23.910 --> 0:32:27.360 burying their firstborn after the Lord struck them down. But 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.300 the second part of the verse says, O their gods, 0:32:30.330 --> 0:32:33.510 on their gods. Yeah, sorry. Thank you. On their gods also, 0:32:33.540 --> 0:32:37.440 the Lord executed judgment, judgments. Is this saying there are 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:38.430 other gods? 0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:41.820 No, it's not saying there are other gods. It's saying 0:32:41.820 --> 0:32:46.890 that the Egyptians believed in other gods and God. For example, 0:32:46.890 --> 0:32:50.190 they believed in the Nile River as a god. And 0:32:50.190 --> 0:32:52.890 so what did the Lord do? He turned the the 0:32:52.890 --> 0:32:55.890 waters of the Nile into blood. 0:32:55.950 --> 0:32:56.580 To blood. 0:32:56.610 --> 0:33:02.459 So that would be one way of looking at it. 0:33:02.490 --> 0:33:09.390 He judged the okay. He judged what he thought were gods. 0:33:09.420 --> 0:33:13.350 You know, it'd be like saying today, uh, let's say 0:33:13.370 --> 0:33:20.660 God judged a website, uh, because it was so wicked. Okay. 0:33:20.660 --> 0:33:24.470 And we said, and because people have made it a god, 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.380 it doesn't mean it's a real god. It's just people 0:33:27.380 --> 0:33:30.170 have treated it as if it was a god. And 0:33:30.170 --> 0:33:33.290 then that website crashed and we'd say, oh, God, look, 0:33:33.290 --> 0:33:37.670 God judged that website, that other God. It's not really 0:33:37.670 --> 0:33:41.060 another god. It's what it is. It's in the minds 0:33:41.060 --> 0:33:46.880 of people. They have made it another god. So. Okay. Uh, 0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:48.800 do you want to take one more? 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:54.350 Sure. We have, uh, Jerry, Ohio Wsrf based on Deuteronomy 0:33:54.380 --> 0:33:58.460 23 three. No Moabite may enter the assembly of the Lord. 0:33:58.460 --> 0:34:03.110 Does this pertain to males only? Ruth was a moabite, 0:34:03.110 --> 0:34:06.530 but she was redeemed and married to Boaz. 0:34:06.890 --> 0:34:11.030 Yeah. I don't think that it's only referring to males. 0:34:11.030 --> 0:34:14.730 I do think what this is saying is that, generally speaking, 0:34:14.730 --> 0:34:21.570 Moabites are not allowed in. Uh. However, Ruth made a 0:34:21.570 --> 0:34:25.800 conscious choice to separate from her family and from the 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:32.549 false gods of the Moabites and instead embraced the Jewish people, 0:34:32.550 --> 0:34:38.310 the people, the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and 0:34:38.820 --> 0:34:42.450 embraced the God of Israel. The reason I say that 0:34:42.450 --> 0:34:46.080 is remember what she says to Naomi. Uh, she says, 0:34:47.430 --> 0:34:50.310 your God will be my God. Your people will be 0:34:50.310 --> 0:34:55.500 my people. And that's why she could be accepted and 0:34:55.500 --> 0:34:58.020 worship the God of Israel, because she worshiped the true God, 0:34:58.020 --> 0:35:02.730 rejected the Moabite gods who weren't really gods anyway, right? 0:35:03.630 --> 0:35:03.960 That's right. 0:35:04.260 --> 0:35:07.140 And just just to remind us of what we just said. 0:35:07.140 --> 0:35:11.660 And then also she embraced the Jewish people and said, 0:35:11.660 --> 0:35:15.710 these are my people. And I think that that's why 0:35:15.710 --> 0:35:20.810 she was welcomed and actually became the the great grandmother 0:35:20.810 --> 0:35:24.410 of King David. So how cool is that? Right? It's really. 0:35:24.410 --> 0:35:24.529 It. 0:35:24.530 --> 0:35:30.319 Shows God's redemption. Yeah. Well, uh, we're going to take 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.989 a break right now. And when we come back, I'll 0:35:32.989 --> 0:35:35.990 take more phoned in questions. But to your you'll be 0:35:35.989 --> 0:35:38.690 back next hour with more of the mailbag, right? 0:35:38.690 --> 0:35:40.520 That is right. I'll be back next hour. Thank you. 0:35:40.550 --> 0:35:44.360 Michael, that was Tara Haynes. I'm Michael Radonich. When we 0:35:44.390 --> 0:35:47.270 come back, you can. We'll be talking to you with 0:35:47.270 --> 0:35:50.060 your phone calls, with your questions about the Bible, God 0:35:50.060 --> 0:35:53.090 and the spiritual life. I'm Michael Riedel. Stay with me. 0:35:53.120 --> 0:36:07.610 We're coming right back. We're back. So glad to be 0:36:07.610 --> 0:36:10.420 with you this Saturday morning talking about your questions about 0:36:10.420 --> 0:36:15.100 the Bible, God and the spiritual life. You know, I'm 0:36:15.100 --> 0:36:18.700 often asked many people wonder if Jewish people still need 0:36:18.730 --> 0:36:22.149 to hear the good news of Jesus the Messiah. Uh, 0:36:22.450 --> 0:36:26.020 God has a special plan for Jewish people. He has 0:36:26.020 --> 0:36:30.399 covenants he's made with the Jewish people. But do they 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:35.560 still need to know the Messiah? Jesus? Well, Doctor Al 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:40.239 Mohler's answer is yes. Absolutely. Chosen People Ministry is offering 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.660 his booklet called To the Jew First in the 21st 0:36:43.660 --> 0:36:47.680 century in it. Doctor Al Mohler maintains that bringing the 0:36:47.710 --> 0:36:51.940 gospel to the Jewish people shows our faithfulness to the truth. 0:36:51.940 --> 0:36:54.700 It's the best example of our faithfulness to the truth 0:36:54.700 --> 0:36:58.960 of the gospel. For your free copy, if you'd like one, 0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:00.730 all you have to do is go to our website 0:37:00.730 --> 0:37:05.260 openline radio.org. Scroll down. You'll see a link that says 0:37:05.290 --> 0:37:09.560 A free gift from Chosen People Ministries. When you click 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.739 on that, you'll be taken to a page where you 0:37:12.739 --> 0:37:15.200 can sign up for your own copy of To the 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:19.430 Jew first in the 21st century. I hope you'll do that. Uh, 0:37:19.460 --> 0:37:22.910 we're going to speak with David in Zion, Illinois, listening 0:37:22.910 --> 0:37:26.509 on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line. David. How can I 0:37:26.540 --> 0:37:27.470 help you today? 0:37:29.660 --> 0:37:32.750 Thank you. Um, I have a friend who was watching 0:37:32.780 --> 0:37:39.020 a television preacher, and, uh, he touched this woman's forehead. 0:37:39.020 --> 0:37:42.739 She fell backwards, and my friend thought that this was 0:37:42.739 --> 0:37:47.180 a miracle. And, uh, this is strange to me. I've 0:37:47.180 --> 0:37:49.670 never seen this happen in any of the church services 0:37:49.670 --> 0:37:50.600 that I've been at. 0:37:50.780 --> 0:37:53.180 Well, you haven't been going to the right church services, then? 0:37:53.180 --> 0:37:55.490 It happens at a lot of places. So. 0:37:58.730 --> 0:38:00.319 Uh, is this biblical? 0:38:00.350 --> 0:38:01.370 Well. 0:38:03.020 --> 0:38:06.759 It's I would say that that there's very little that 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.520 you could find in Scripture that would support that. And 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.940 I've talked to people who have experienced it. Some people 0:38:12.940 --> 0:38:19.420 say I just felt consumed, filled up. I got emotionally, uh, 0:38:19.450 --> 0:38:21.610 I felt they felt it was the power of the spirit, 0:38:21.610 --> 0:38:27.850 but they they just collapsed. Uh, then others said everyone 0:38:27.850 --> 0:38:31.480 else was falling down, so I did it, too. Uh, 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.270 the only biblical example I could tell you about being 0:38:34.270 --> 0:38:38.050 slain in the spirit is Ananias and Sapphira. I don't 0:38:38.050 --> 0:38:41.440 think any of us want to be slain that way. Right. Uh, that. 0:38:41.469 --> 0:38:45.850 Remember what happened with them? Uh, here's what I think 0:38:45.850 --> 0:38:49.600 it is. And I think it's when when a person legitimately, 0:38:49.630 --> 0:38:54.550 legitimately experiences this, they get they they they feel like 0:38:54.550 --> 0:38:57.670 they just have to go down. Do you remember what 0:38:57.670 --> 0:39:01.300 it was like when the Beatles came to America and 0:39:01.300 --> 0:39:07.620 young women were going crazy and And they got so 0:39:07.620 --> 0:39:15.540 much emotion going, uh, uh, that they, uh, that they, 0:39:15.570 --> 0:39:20.280 that they just became, uh, filled with, with emotion and 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.040 they fell down. Same thing happened with Elvis Presley the 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:27.509 generation before and with Frank Sinatra the generation before. Uh, 0:39:28.230 --> 0:39:32.310 that's that's all that I think it is. Uh, when 0:39:32.310 --> 0:39:38.670 they when they have that kind of experience, uh, I 0:39:38.670 --> 0:39:42.060 think it's it's just saying, uh, that they got filled 0:39:42.060 --> 0:39:45.420 with emotion and, and they felt if they, you know, 0:39:45.450 --> 0:39:51.540 sometimes people just go, uh, uh, uh, they, they just 0:39:51.540 --> 0:40:00.719 go and they, uh, uh, that they, they, uh, they 0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.150 following along sometimes they get so filled with emotion, they 0:40:03.150 --> 0:40:06.490 fall down. I forget the name of it. Once I was, uh, 0:40:06.670 --> 0:40:09.550 I had an allergic reaction to a medicine when I 0:40:09.550 --> 0:40:14.799 was in college, and the doctor gave me an injection, and, uh, I, 0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:21.160 I thought, oh, uh, I'll be fine now. Uh, and, uh, 0:40:21.670 --> 0:40:26.890 the the, uh, the interesting thing was I just went 0:40:26.890 --> 0:40:31.120 right down, uh, because I got just filled up with. 0:40:31.150 --> 0:40:34.000 It's just like a I was, I was just so 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:38.020 filled there with this injection. Boom. Gone. And I think 0:40:38.020 --> 0:40:40.540 that's that's all that happens. That's what I think it is. 0:40:40.540 --> 0:40:44.980 I don't mean to be, uh, unkind or disrespect someone's experience. 0:40:44.980 --> 0:40:46.840 I just don't think it's the Holy Spirit. I think 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:51.550 it's emotion. So. Okay. Does that help? 0:40:51.580 --> 0:40:52.000 Thank you. 0:40:52.030 --> 0:40:53.200 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. 0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:58.540 I've enjoyed, uh, Torrey Auditorium and Moody's church. Uh, and 0:40:58.540 --> 0:41:01.180 I've never seen that happen. Any any services? 0:41:01.510 --> 0:41:03.750 No, it doesn't happen at Moody, I'll tell you that. 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.210 So that's that was the reason for my question. Thank 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:09.840 you so much. 0:41:09.870 --> 0:41:12.090 Yeah, sure. Uh, we're going to. 0:41:12.090 --> 0:41:12.450 Talk. 0:41:12.450 --> 0:41:13.920 To Lee. 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:17.790 In Cleveland, Ohio. Uh, I guess listen, on wtxf. Welcome 0:41:17.790 --> 0:41:19.590 to Open Line, Lee. How can I help you? 0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:24.090 Thank you. Uh. Thank you, doctor. Uh, yes. I've heard 0:41:24.090 --> 0:41:27.930 of people that are present themselves as being very learned 0:41:27.930 --> 0:41:33.780 or scholarly that, uh, it's required that when a person 0:41:33.780 --> 0:41:38.459 is baptized, they have to be baptized in the specific 0:41:38.460 --> 0:41:41.610 name of the father, specific name of the son, and 0:41:41.610 --> 0:41:46.230 specific name of the Holy Spirit, as I understand it. Otherwise, 0:41:46.260 --> 0:41:49.529 they haven't been baptized. And I get the impression they're 0:41:49.530 --> 0:41:52.560 saying that, uh, they're not saved. 0:41:53.010 --> 0:41:53.490 Mhm. 0:41:53.969 --> 0:41:58.410 Well, I don't think baptism makes a person saved. Uh, 0:41:59.430 --> 0:42:03.290 whether they are baptized or not, or baptized appropriately or in, 0:42:03.469 --> 0:42:07.910 you know, inappropriately with the right formula. I just don't 0:42:07.910 --> 0:42:12.140 think we're saved by grace through faith. It's not of works, 0:42:12.140 --> 0:42:15.379 including the work of baptism. So wouldn't you agree with 0:42:15.380 --> 0:42:18.350 me that we're saved by grace through faith? 0:42:18.980 --> 0:42:20.509 Yes, sir. But I wanted to. 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.210 Yeah, yeah. I just, I just I think that that's 0:42:23.210 --> 0:42:32.420 important to recognize at first. Uh, and, uh, the, the 0:42:32.420 --> 0:42:44.900 the second is, uh. This is important, uh, uh, that 0:42:44.900 --> 0:42:48.680 the Bible commands that we be baptized. Uh, it tells 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.230 those of us who make disciples to when they win 0:42:51.260 --> 0:42:56.120 or want the Lord to baptize them. And then it says, 0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:59.150 how in the name of the father and the son 0:42:59.150 --> 0:43:01.530 and the Holy Spirit. And I think it's it's a 0:43:01.530 --> 0:43:08.430 significant verse there in Matthew 28, because that command reflects 0:43:08.430 --> 0:43:12.359 the triune nature of God, because it uses the singular word, 0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:16.020 baptizing them in the name, not plural names, but in 0:43:16.020 --> 0:43:20.310 the name of the father, son, and Holy Spirit. And 0:43:20.310 --> 0:43:28.440 since the Bible does indeed give that, uh, then, uh, 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:36.180 then the uh, then the idea is that that we 0:43:36.180 --> 0:43:39.960 reflect the triune nature of God when we baptize and 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.260 when we are baptized. And so I think I wouldn't 0:43:43.260 --> 0:43:47.040 mess around and I and use other terms for God, 0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:51.180 I think we've got the clear formula it's written out 0:43:51.180 --> 0:43:53.550 in Scripture. Why change it? What do you think? 0:43:54.030 --> 0:43:56.910 Yeah, I agree, I agree with that. I just wanted 0:43:56.910 --> 0:43:57.690 to be sure. 0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.130 Yeah, that's what I would say. Okay. Appreciate it. Lee. 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:05.120 Thanks for your call. Yeah. Uh, we're going to talk 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:09.739 to Caroline in Geneva, Illinois, listening on wmbi. Welcome to 0:44:09.770 --> 0:44:11.570 Open Line. Caroline. Caroline. 0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:15.740 Well, good morning and thank you. And I am a 0:44:16.670 --> 0:44:18.740 cable partner with you, so. 0:44:18.770 --> 0:44:21.590 Oh, great. Thank you for being a kitchen table partner. 0:44:22.010 --> 0:44:24.590 Yes. Thank you. I'm not at the kitchen table. I'm 0:44:24.590 --> 0:44:25.549 at my desk right now. 0:44:25.580 --> 0:44:27.380 Okay, there we go. Okay. 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:32.570 Uh, anyway, um, I am teaching a Bible study, and 0:44:32.570 --> 0:44:36.050 we finished our Bible study early this year. And so 0:44:36.050 --> 0:44:40.489 we went to your 50 most important Bible questions. And 0:44:40.489 --> 0:44:45.290 I let them choose each choose some of the important 0:44:45.290 --> 0:44:48.530 questions they liked from that book. Well, the one we're 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:52.190 going to do Monday is question number three. Can the 0:44:52.190 --> 0:44:58.479 believer lose their salvation? And in the third reason or 0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:02.230 the third way that you talk there. It's about Romans 0:45:02.230 --> 0:45:05.230 838 and 39. 0:45:05.500 --> 0:45:05.980 Mhm. 0:45:07.150 --> 0:45:10.450 Um, just remember we who would you say are created 0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.820 beings and even we don't have the power to separate 0:45:12.820 --> 0:45:17.770 ourselves from the love of God and the and the Messiah, Jesus. Um, 0:45:17.770 --> 0:45:20.830 three of the people in the Bible study have members 0:45:20.830 --> 0:45:25.750 of their family who are adults now, who grew up 0:45:25.750 --> 0:45:30.910 in the word, went to all of the camps, uh, 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:38.049 confessed Jesus as their Lord, got baptized and now have said, no, 0:45:38.050 --> 0:45:40.660 I no longer believe in it. I'm an atheist. 0:45:40.900 --> 0:45:46.899 Mhm. So how have they separated themselves from the love 0:45:46.900 --> 0:45:49.900 of God and lost their salvation? Is that what you're asking? 0:45:50.530 --> 0:45:51.219 That's it. 0:45:51.250 --> 0:45:57.200 Yeah. Uh, well, I think it's interesting that in the 0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:02.750 last days. Oh, my. Running out of time. Uh, you 0:46:02.750 --> 0:46:06.110 know what, Carolyn? When we come back, uh, in the 0:46:06.110 --> 0:46:09.020 next hour, I'm going to address this question. So you 0:46:09.020 --> 0:46:12.799 stick around with us. I'll start off by talking with you. Okay. 0:46:13.010 --> 0:46:14.029 Uh, okay. 0:46:14.060 --> 0:46:18.050 Because that's it for the first hour. Uh, thanks for listening, everyone. 0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:21.080 Keep listening. There's a second hour of Open Line coming 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.660 up from on most of these stations, and you can 0:46:23.660 --> 0:46:27.500 hear the answer to Carolyn's question. I think that would 0:46:27.500 --> 0:46:30.980 be really great. Uh, during the break, check out our 0:46:30.980 --> 0:46:33.680 web page, Open Line radio.org. It's got all the links 0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:35.720 you're looking for, including a link to my personal web page. 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.450 You can see about going on a biblical cruise with me. 0:46:38.510 --> 0:46:42.080 Our Bible study across America will continue in the second hour, 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.200 so stay with us. Open line with Doctor Michael Ray 0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:49.130 Dolnick is a production of Moody Radio, a ministry of 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:51.620 Moody Bible Institute. We'll be right back.