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S2: Practical from the Bible. Tips and tricks to kill. Not tricks,

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S1: Tricks. Delivering the truth daily.

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S3: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up

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S3: Even if other people were.

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S2: The gospel changes everything.

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S4: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement

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S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl

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S5: Here we are. It's time again. It's the bottom of

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S1: Making herself laugh no matter who joins her. It's time

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S3: New year's edition. Fresh edition of 2026. I'm excited about

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S3: this because I'm going to be debuting a brand new

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S3: joke that I learned over break. But first.

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S3: I have to tell you one thing that I did

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S3: I went to a ravioli convention.

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S3: Yep. Is that one of those big convention centers? The

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S3: It was. I spent the whole day walking around tasting

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S3: Well. And you know what? Next up, I gotta give

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S3: diced onions on your refried refried beans at the Mexican restaurant,

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S3: what do you get? I don't know, tear gas.

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S2: That's really good.

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S7: Oh, that is one of the best jokes ever.

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S7: Allie's getting loose in here, people.

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S2: That's awesome.

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S7: She did. Come on. That's too good. I applaud you, sister.

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S3: If you want the jokes. Text jokes.

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S2: I was good.

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S3: The dudes are clapping. Diana's shaking her head a little bit.

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S3: Text jokes to 800 555 7898. I know if my

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S1: You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't

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S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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S5: Those who believe will not be put to shame. Pretty

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S5: kicker I'm going to need you to read three chapters,

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S5: the first three chapters of the seven resolutions, before we

449
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S5: get in there, if at all possible. That's going to

450
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S5: help you. It's it's kind of the orientation before you

451
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,399
S5: plop down and then everything will make sense. So I'm

452
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,640
S5: going to give you details on that. But we embedded

453
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S5: a link that guess what, they got 25% off because

454
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S5: of this event at Moody Pub for the seven resolutions,

455
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,000
S5: which is really cool. So we've got a link here

456
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S5: for you that has both the registration for the webinar

457
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,400
S5: again Saturday, January 17th, kicking off at 9 a.m. central.

458
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S5: It's going to be an incredible time, guys. You're going

459
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,640
S5: to walk in God's power, maybe like you never have before,

460
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,240
S5: because you're going to hear truth that you're going to

461
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,160
S5: act on. And some of you have wondered, is there

462
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,800
S5: any hope for this thing that has me stuck and

463
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,439
S5: is holding me back from everything that God has for me?

464
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,159
S5: Grab this link. We're going to have an incredible time.

465
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,680
S5: How do they grab the link here?

466
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,250
S7: Ali, just.

467
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S3: Takes power to 800 555 7898. Power to 800 555 7898.

468
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S5: Yeah. All right. Coming up here in a couple of minutes,

469
00:25:39,730 --> 00:25:41,649
S5: we're going to do a little flyby about what you

470
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S5: can expect at this webinar. And you might say, man,

471
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S5: I can't get there. Well, we're going to give you

472
00:25:46,530 --> 00:25:49,610
S5: just enough here where you've got some actionable stuff that

473
00:25:49,609 --> 00:25:53,450
S5: you can even do today. Buckle up. Grab that swig

474
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S5: of water.

475
00:25:55,010 --> 00:25:59,129
S1: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.

476
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S1: Super di is in the crew, it's curl and crew

477
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S1: on Moody Radio.

478
00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:07,530
S5: I think when we talk webinar, some of you get

479
00:26:07,530 --> 00:26:11,370
S5: in your mind the, uh, the little boxes on the

480
00:26:11,369 --> 00:26:15,970
S5: screen and it gets kind of freak out mode. It's like, well,

481
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S5: Saturday morning at 9 a.m. central, Carl. I'm not I'm

482
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S5: not geared for going public.

483
00:26:26,369 --> 00:26:27,699
S3: At 9 a.m. on a Saturday.

484
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S7: Morning. Yeah.

485
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S5: But we get some good news for you. This webinar

486
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S5: format is you just sit there and take it in.

487
00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:37,340
S5: Now we're going to have exercises in this again January 17th.

488
00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:40,020
S5: We're going to have exercises one that I'm so pumped

489
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S5: about after the first session. We're going to give you

490
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S5: some time to take a assessment. Yeah. With 99% probability,

491
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S5: we're going to pin down one of seven areas that

492
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S5: most needs, by the strength of God's Spirit, to be

493
00:26:56,619 --> 00:26:59,179
S5: released so that you don't have to fight any longer

494
00:26:59,180 --> 00:27:02,620
S5: with self-help, but you can really truck forward in God's power.

495
00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:07,619
S5: All it is is God's Word coming to life realizing, boy,

496
00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:10,419
S5: the God who saved me has the grace and the

497
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S5: power to change me, to renounce ungodliness, worldly passions, to

498
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S5: live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in this present age.

499
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S5: That's Titus two, verse 11 and 12, and God wants

500
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S5: to do that for you. He really does.

501
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S3: Okay. So you mentioned a couple different sessions. Are these

502
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S3: sessions contained within this webinar. So you're just going to

503
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S3: like go for a little bit and then take a

504
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S3: break or how what's that look like.

505
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S5: Yeah. So we have three sessions and they're going to

506
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:41,990
S5: be the first one's going to be a working session

507
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S5: where you go through this assessment. We're going to have

508
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S5: some music going, going in the background and just about

509
00:27:46,670 --> 00:27:49,590
S5: probably about a 5 to 10 minute break just to

510
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S5: let everyone get that really processed. It's going to be

511
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S5: a fun exercise. People have some huge aha moments because

512
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S5: everybody who's been born again, really transformed by the power

513
00:28:00,670 --> 00:28:03,190
S5: of God, usually has an area that's going to stand

514
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S5: out in these seven resolutions. Like, man, that one's going well.

515
00:28:06,869 --> 00:28:09,710
S5: And then by virtue of some questions that we ask

516
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S5: you on this algorithm, this personalized, totally anonymous assessment, you're

517
00:28:15,310 --> 00:28:17,830
S5: going to be able to go, mm. Wow. This is

518
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S5: an area where I've got to grow. And the goal

519
00:28:20,670 --> 00:28:25,000
S5: with this, with these three different sessions is to walk

520
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S5: you through to the point where you identify. Where have

521
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,880
S5: I been really walking in my own strength. How do

522
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S5: I tap God's power to overcome that? And then we're

523
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,439
S5: going to give you strategies that are really going to

524
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S5: launch you. And having Drew Dickens. This is this is

525
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S5: this is really an added feature that I am so

526
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S5: excited about, because we're going to be able to customize

527
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,600
S5: strategies for you to put in place and to begin

528
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,640
S5: walking out in the power of the spirit that are

529
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S5: going to be very actionable. So I am thrilled God's

530
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,520
S5: called us to make disciples, not to count noses or nickels.

531
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S5: So we're here to do some disciple making on that

532
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S5: Saturday the 17th, just a week from Saturday. We're going

533
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,880
S5: to be fun, isn't it?

534
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,960
S3: Yeah, this is going to be something you're going to

535
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,520
S3: want to take part of if you possibly can just

536
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,280
S3: text power. If you want the details, text power to

537
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:25,690
S3: 800 555 7898. Text power to 800 555, 78, 98.

538
00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:27,810
S3: And Carl, you are beyond excited.

539
00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:28,130
S7: Yeah.

540
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S3: This is this is your wheelhouse.

541
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S5: I am I mean, this is my heart. I mean, look,

542
00:29:33,370 --> 00:29:35,969
S5: at the end of the day, we can talk all

543
00:29:35,970 --> 00:29:40,130
S5: day long about the Christian life, but if there's a

544
00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:44,850
S5: gap and we're not experiencing God's power or we've had

545
00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:49,130
S5: this nagging thing, maybe for a month, maybe. And most

546
00:29:49,130 --> 00:29:53,490
S5: often it's for many years we find ourselves truly born again,

547
00:29:53,770 --> 00:29:57,610
S5: but with a sticking point in our life. We generally,

548
00:29:57,890 --> 00:30:00,410
S5: and this is a big statement here I'm making. But

549
00:30:00,410 --> 00:30:02,890
S5: as a pastor for 40 years now, I've seen this.

550
00:30:02,930 --> 00:30:06,450
S5: We generally try to bootstrap this in in our own strength,

551
00:30:06,450 --> 00:30:09,450
S5: especially around the new year. I'm going to get victory

552
00:30:09,450 --> 00:30:13,010
S5: over this. I've got the juice. It lasts a few days,

553
00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:17,970
S5: maybe a few weeks. Stats are 85% of resolutions have

554
00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:22,060
S5: hit their face. They've failed by 15 days into January.

555
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S5: So we we decided, let's come in here, let's grab

556
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S5: this and let's really give impart some biblical truth on

557
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S5: how to tap God's power. Because self-help, it never gets

558
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:40,219
S5: you anywhere and God wants to do it. So let

559
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S5: me give you a vision of where we hope to

560
00:30:42,740 --> 00:30:44,700
S5: go with this. I'm going to I'm going to hit

561
00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:48,500
S5: each of these seven resolutions and aim you at what

562
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,900
S5: our goal is, the blue sky vision. For this thing.

563
00:30:51,460 --> 00:30:54,140
S5: You're going to be joining God, partnering with God, and

564
00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:58,300
S5: experiencing his power rather than living independent. There's no progressive

565
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:02,140
S5: order to this except that joining God is paramount. It's

566
00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:05,860
S5: the most fundamental resolution that has a domino effect for

567
00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:08,500
S5: the rest. But let me go through them thinking truth.

568
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:12,460
S5: Your mind is being renewed and freed from destructive thinking,

569
00:31:12,820 --> 00:31:16,300
S5: killing sin. You're finally putting to death those sins that

570
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:21,550
S5: have been killing you. Choosing friends. You have quality people

571
00:31:21,550 --> 00:31:26,030
S5: around you who help you live the abundant life taking risks.

572
00:31:26,390 --> 00:31:28,310
S5: You now live in a way that puts your faith

573
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S5: in motion and gives you energy focused effort. This is

574
00:31:32,190 --> 00:31:35,310
S5: a big one. Your direction is clear because you're focused

575
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S5: on your passion and gifting. And let me add a

576
00:31:38,350 --> 00:31:41,590
S5: little bit to that. Not living a life that you

577
00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:44,190
S5: think others want you to live, or you've been told

578
00:31:44,190 --> 00:31:47,990
S5: that you've got to live, but you're identifying, wow, what

579
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:50,710
S5: are the unique passions God has put in me? What

580
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:54,310
S5: are the unique gifts? Ephesians three that God gave me

581
00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:57,950
S5: when he ascended. He took captives captive and gave gifts

582
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S5: to men and women and the Holy Spirit's distributing those,

583
00:32:01,150 --> 00:32:05,469
S5: identifying those, and moving forward. Game changer. And then the

584
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S5: last one. This is probably the biggest one. Ali. No joking.

585
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:14,150
S5: This is probably this. In Killing Sin are the two

586
00:32:14,190 --> 00:32:19,520
S5: big boys resolution wise redeeming time. This is the blue sky.

587
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,040
S5: You spend your time in a way that reflects your

588
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,040
S5: values and impacts the world. Why unseized time always flows

589
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,520
S5: to our weaknesses. Can I get an Amen?

590
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:29,960
S7: Amen.

591
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,840
S3: It's totally.

592
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,240
S7: True.

593
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,200
S5: It's so true. And again, we're not promoting here workaholism

594
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,960
S5: or frenetic filling out calendars. It's anticipating the hours of

595
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,120
S5: the day where Satan is commonly gotten a toehold in

596
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,560
S5: your life, and it manifests itself in pornography. It manifests

597
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,520
S5: itself in doomscrolling. I guess that's a term for it, right?

598
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,160
S7: Yes.

599
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,360
S5: What is doomscrolling? Let's get real here.

600
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S3: I mean, it's just that when you get lost in

601
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,200
S3: that lost in the scroll, basically where you just find

602
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,840
S3: yourself sometimes it's, you know, you're staying up way, way

603
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,880
S3: too late at night or you're, it's the middle of

604
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,360
S3: the day. And instead of doing something productive, you're just

605
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,000
S3: literally on your phone, like you're unable to kind of

606
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,760
S3: put it down, unable to stop the scrolling.

607
00:33:17,980 --> 00:33:18,460
S7: Yeah.

608
00:33:18,740 --> 00:33:23,700
S5: Yeah. And I just want to encourage you. Look, we're

609
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:29,780
S5: all in this together. We're all in this together. All

610
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S5: of us are disciples of Jesus Christ. Nobody's arrived except Supardi.

611
00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:38,580
S2: She's editing something right now, so she can't.

612
00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:40,860
S7: She can't hear me nor respond. No.

613
00:33:41,140 --> 00:33:44,300
S5: No one. Including Supardi. But we we want to be

614
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S5: here for you. And this takes more time than we

615
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:50,500
S5: can do in a morning show. It takes a little

616
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S5: bit of focused effort. That's why I'm taking some time

617
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S5: to host this webinar January 17th with special guest Drew Dickens,

618
00:33:58,860 --> 00:34:01,420
S5: our AI expert. And he is some kind of fired

619
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S5: up about this. He says, I was going to be

620
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S5: at the webinar, but he said the fact that I

621
00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:07,980
S5: can contribute at the end of this now is a

622
00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:08,860
S5: beautiful thing.

623
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S3: So just had a question that came in on text.

624
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S3: I'm gonna throw it your way. This person says, is

625
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S3: the webinar beneficial for an unsaved person. I don't know

626
00:34:17,150 --> 00:34:20,430
S3: if this person is maybe wanting to invite someone. Who

627
00:34:20,670 --> 00:34:24,470
S3: would you say it's a good opportunity for that or no.

628
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S7: It's a.

629
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S5: Fascinating question. I would say it would be great because

630
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S5: it's going to cast a vision for a person who

631
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:32,830
S5: is not a follower of Jesus, of what could be.

632
00:34:33,150 --> 00:34:35,710
S5: So I think in that sense, it will, and I'll

633
00:34:35,710 --> 00:34:38,589
S5: even be sensitive to that as we're going through this

634
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S5: webinar knowing that there are people there, some some who

635
00:34:41,870 --> 00:34:45,350
S5: are clearly lost and are not following Jesus and they

636
00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:48,630
S5: know it, some who have what we talk about here

637
00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:51,910
S5: often an illusion of salvation. And Jesus wants to set

638
00:34:51,910 --> 00:34:55,230
S5: them free. So it's going to be an incredible Saturday morning.

639
00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:58,870
S5: It's a week from Saturday. So and by the way,

640
00:34:58,910 --> 00:35:01,950
S5: there's no cost attached to this except to get a

641
00:35:01,950 --> 00:35:03,989
S5: book and read the first three chapters.

642
00:35:04,030 --> 00:35:07,710
S3: Get the get the details by texting power to 800

643
00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:14,910
S3: 555 7898 text power to 800 555 7898.

644
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:17,000
S5: Yeah, I hope to see you there. Boom! Crew. We

645
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,799
S5: love you, Tex. Power tour number 800 555 7898.

646
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,680
S1: Standing on the rock. Each and every day. You're listening

647
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,920
S1: to Carl and crew.

648
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,040
S5: I'm that guy.

649
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,000
S3: What guy?

650
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,200
S5: I'm that guy. I never thought it would happen, but

651
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,879
S5: I'm that guy. I'm that guy. I can't believe I'm

652
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,279
S5: that guy. Explain. I'm talking to myself. Oh, there's no

653
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,120
S5: one around me. I'm talking to myself. I did this

654
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,279
S5: the other day. I'm walking, and I. And I'm realizing. No, no.

655
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600
S5: What are you doing? You're that guy.

656
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,560
S2: Is this a new development?

657
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,520
S5: Yes. Yes.

658
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S2: What do you think changed?

659
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,279
S5: Age.

660
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,279
S2: Age. Well that's dangerous. I'm 30 and I've been doing

661
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,160
S2: this for years.

662
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,480
S5: You're gonna be. You're gonna be. You're gonna be speaking

663
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,160
S5: epic novels to yourself by the time you're 55. Dude,

664
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,210
S5: you're in trouble. You got your tickets and squishes already,

665
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:16,529
S5: you know?

666
00:36:16,530 --> 00:36:18,330
S2: So I didn't even really think about it until you

667
00:36:18,330 --> 00:36:20,649
S2: just said I'm that guy. But I do this all

668
00:36:20,650 --> 00:36:23,610
S2: the time, so I. If you know.

669
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S5: You.

670
00:36:23,969 --> 00:36:26,770
S2: Don't. Yeah, I do, do you? Yes. If you know me.

671
00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:28,689
S2: What do you know? My personal life. And you know

672
00:36:28,690 --> 00:36:30,370
S2: that I am a big football guy.

673
00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:32,730
S5: And talk to yourself about the bears.

674
00:36:32,770 --> 00:36:34,770
S2: Yes, I do, I see you, like.

675
00:36:34,810 --> 00:36:36,410
S3: Pretend you're a commentator.

676
00:36:36,450 --> 00:36:38,970
S2: No, I don't pretend I'm a commentator. But what?

677
00:36:39,010 --> 00:36:39,450
S3: That would be.

678
00:36:39,450 --> 00:36:41,730
S2: Fun. What I do. Well, you know what? Like, kind

679
00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:43,969
S2: of in a way. It's like I got my own

680
00:36:43,969 --> 00:36:47,290
S2: sports talk radio show, but it's just me, and so.

681
00:36:47,850 --> 00:36:48,890
S2: So I.

682
00:36:48,930 --> 00:36:49,730
S5: Take callers.

683
00:36:49,969 --> 00:36:53,089
S2: No, I don't take callers. I'm not, I'm not, I'm

684
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:56,930
S2: not crazy. Uh, but what I'll do is, like, I'm

685
00:36:56,930 --> 00:37:00,050
S2: folding clothes or hanging clothes up in the bedroom or something,

686
00:37:00,050 --> 00:37:01,930
S2: while my daughter and my wife are out in the

687
00:37:01,930 --> 00:37:04,490
S2: living room playing and I'm folding clothes and I'm going, well,

688
00:37:04,489 --> 00:37:06,689
S2: you see, it could have been a crazy year this

689
00:37:06,690 --> 00:37:08,330
S2: year because, you know, we just had we had this

690
00:37:08,330 --> 00:37:10,810
S2: one win, but we lost the last couple. And you know,

691
00:37:10,850 --> 00:37:14,020
S2: and I'm like going through playoff scenarios and like. And

692
00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:15,340
S2: I'm literally your pride.

693
00:37:15,340 --> 00:37:15,980
S5: Ever heard you?

694
00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:16,460
S2: I don't think.

695
00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:17,779
S5: So. I'm dying in here.

696
00:37:17,820 --> 00:37:20,100
S3: I feel like this is totally normal. Or maybe.

697
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:21,219
S5: I hope it.

698
00:37:21,219 --> 00:37:23,540
S3: Is. Do you ever pretend you're a character in a

699
00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:24,620
S3: TV show or a movie?

700
00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:25,180
S2: Yes.

701
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:28,820
S3: What? Okay. Thank you for admitting that. What do you mean? What?

702
00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:29,820
S3: You've never, like.

703
00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:30,660
S5: No.

704
00:37:31,060 --> 00:37:34,140
S3: Like, done the dialogue from, like, a movie or a

705
00:37:34,140 --> 00:37:36,379
S3: TV show and pretended you were the character.

706
00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:38,020
S2: Okay, I don't know if I have done that.

707
00:37:38,060 --> 00:37:40,900
S3: Okay. Maybe not. Maybe it's just me. And I'm gonna

708
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:41,500
S3: be quiet now.

709
00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:41,980
S2: No no no.

710
00:37:42,219 --> 00:37:42,739
S3: No no.

711
00:37:42,739 --> 00:37:43,460
S5: No, it's fine.

712
00:37:43,660 --> 00:37:46,259
S3: She's gonna break into Sound of Music any moment.

713
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:48,020
S5: The hills are alive.

714
00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:52,940
S3: I don't break into song, necessarily, but you don't ever

715
00:37:52,940 --> 00:37:55,100
S3: pretend you're an actor or an actress.

716
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:58,060
S5: No. I've pretended that I've gone deep. And God has

717
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,259
S5: got a poster out from, you know, Joe Montana.

718
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:03,340
S2: Yes. It's the same thing now.

719
00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:04,700
S3: Okay. Yes. Thank you for.

720
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,900
S2: Not leaving me out there. I have pretended that I

721
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:09,459
S2: was a character from a movie or something like that one.

722
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:10,540
S5: Let's get after it here.

723
00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:12,109
S2: Hey. I'm not. I didn't say I was gonna give

724
00:38:12,110 --> 00:38:14,230
S2: you everything. I just it's.

725
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:15,870
S10: A new Han Solo over here. Yeah.

726
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:18,750
S2: I'm not talking to you about me feeling like I'm Batman.

727
00:38:19,070 --> 00:38:20,270
S5: Or something up there, man.

728
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:21,430
S2: Like Batman.

729
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:23,230
S3: I'm Batman.

730
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:24,150
S2: I feel like I'm Batman.

731
00:38:24,510 --> 00:38:27,069
S5: I'm trying to be so self-effacing. I'm trying to think

732
00:38:27,070 --> 00:38:29,710
S5: of something I said to myself recently, because I just

733
00:38:30,190 --> 00:38:32,589
S5: laughing at yourself is the greatest thing going. What did

734
00:38:32,590 --> 00:38:36,430
S5: I do here recently? I gotta get one. I gotta

735
00:38:36,430 --> 00:38:40,950
S5: get one. Oh, oh, oh. I was walking upstairs from, uh,

736
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:47,150
S5: putting blaze in his kennel, and, um, I'm I'm starting

737
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:49,589
S5: to talk to myself about what am I going to

738
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:53,150
S5: do right now? And I started I got this dialogue.

739
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:56,110
S5: What am I going to do right now? And I'm going, well,

740
00:38:56,110 --> 00:38:58,629
S5: this is probably something that's a good step to take.

741
00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:00,750
S5: And then I caught myself and then I, and I

742
00:39:00,790 --> 00:39:03,029
S5: look around the corner, I see my bride sitting there

743
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:05,270
S5: reading a book on a couch, and I'm like, I

744
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:07,229
S5: didn't even say anything to her. I'm like, I wonder

745
00:39:07,230 --> 00:39:08,070
S5: if she heard that.

746
00:39:08,190 --> 00:39:11,640
S10: That's really weird. Maybe blaze answers you or something, you know.

747
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,799
S3: I remember one time I was in my car and

748
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,080
S3: this was back in my news reporter days. Oh, boy.

749
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,239
S3: And so I was driving to what was going to

750
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,880
S3: be my 6:00 live shot. So I had to drive

751
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,160
S3: to a location where I was going to be holding

752
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,719
S3: a microphone, and I was going to be live in

753
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,319
S3: front of. I don't remember what the story was, but

754
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,320
S3: I remember being in the car and I am with passion,

755
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,200
S3: practicing as I was a new reporter. So I'm like

756
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,560
S3: practicing and I'm Ali and standing in front of the

757
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,960
S3: school board meeting where they've just made it and I'm

758
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,680
S3: I am passionate and I'm practicing good. But I look

759
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,120
S3: over at the person next to me in the car

760
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,319
S3: and they are staring at me, and I think they

761
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,719
S3: even applauded, like, because they were watching me.

762
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,960
S10: Oh my goodness.

763
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,040
S3: And I was so embarrassed.

764
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:54,720
S2: Because.

765
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,960
S3: I was going for it. And they're just dying laughing

766
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,000
S3: at me like, yeah, way to go.

767
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,760
S11: You did it.

768
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,359
S3: Just gonna drive on right now. Let's pretend this didn't happen.

769
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,919
S3: Hopefully I nailed the live shot.

770
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,690
S10: Those things were really stressful.

771
00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:12,970
S5: I think the worst talking to yourself is when you're

772
00:40:12,969 --> 00:40:18,370
S5: mumbling stuff that's really you don't even know what's going on,

773
00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:23,170
S5: and then you realize, I am talking to myself.

774
00:40:23,210 --> 00:40:23,730
S10: Oh, say.

775
00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:24,049
S3: That out.

776
00:40:24,050 --> 00:40:27,250
S2: Loud. I've done that multiple times where, you know, it's

777
00:40:27,250 --> 00:40:29,890
S2: usually where you know someone.

778
00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:31,890
S5: You're toast. Young Thunder, because you're too young to be

779
00:40:31,890 --> 00:40:35,370
S5: doing this. When you're 70, you're gonna be the guy, man,

780
00:40:35,969 --> 00:40:38,569
S5: just walking around town having a conversation.

781
00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:42,290
S2: I've already done this where I. I'm in the target

782
00:40:42,290 --> 00:40:45,689
S2: parking lot talking to myself, and I turn around from

783
00:40:45,690 --> 00:40:48,770
S2: my car to start walking in, and there's someone right

784
00:40:48,770 --> 00:40:52,330
S2: around the corner of my car and I'm like, oh, no.

785
00:40:52,330 --> 00:40:54,730
S2: And I didn't realize I was talking to myself out

786
00:40:54,730 --> 00:40:57,290
S2: loud until I turned the corner and I see a person,

787
00:40:57,290 --> 00:41:00,009
S2: I go, oh, I said everything. I said out loud, like,

788
00:41:00,050 --> 00:41:00,529
S2: oh man.

789
00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:02,410
S10: Well, poor Jonathan puts up with me because I know

790
00:41:02,410 --> 00:41:05,250
S10: I talk to myself and I'm sure there's talk to yourself.

791
00:41:05,290 --> 00:41:06,090
S10: I wasn't gonna.

792
00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:09,020
S5: Say anything, but I have seen it.

793
00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:10,859
S2: You've seen it because we're in different rooms. You've seen

794
00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:11,459
S2: her mouth moving.

795
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:13,900
S5: And so I've seen her talking to her. And thank

796
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:16,820
S5: you for sharing that. Good. Rub a dub dub.

797
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:17,419
S10: We're all.

798
00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:17,580
S5: Used.

799
00:41:17,580 --> 00:41:20,060
S10: To the tub. He knows what? It's for him. Yeah,

800
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:20,620
S10: I know him.

801
00:41:20,660 --> 00:41:21,580
S2: I don't hear it anymore.

802
00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:22,020
S10: Yeah.

803
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:23,460
S5: Target.

804
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:24,060
S10: Poor guy.

805
00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:25,620
S5: Well, that's my fear.

806
00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:26,060
S2: Yeah.

807
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:29,220
S5: Is that. I don't know, maybe I'm not catching. Maybe

808
00:41:29,219 --> 00:41:31,140
S5: I'm doing it all the time.

809
00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:32,700
S3: And you're just not aware.

810
00:41:32,739 --> 00:41:33,299
S5: Yeah.

811
00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:33,700
S10: Oh.

812
00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:36,020
S5: Which freaks me out. I think I'm in a spot

813
00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:37,939
S5: check with my neighbors. Hey, do you see me talking

814
00:41:37,980 --> 00:41:38,620
S5: to myself?

815
00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:42,140
S12: If they slowly back away, that's a yes.

816
00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:45,100
S3: That would be a funny question.

817
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:48,379
S5: Yeah. Why aren't they coming out to greet me as

818
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:51,020
S5: much as they used to? Now it's starting to dawn

819
00:41:51,020 --> 00:41:51,460
S5: on me.

820
00:41:51,620 --> 00:41:52,300
S2: Coming together.

821
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:53,820
S5: It's all coming together.

822
00:41:53,860 --> 00:41:54,500
S10: Wait a minute.

823
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:59,299
S5: Oh, self-talk is radically important, so let's get after it.

824
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:03,419
S5: Because what if the messages were actually sensical? Yeah. You

825
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:07,520
S5: weren't running a deep route down 100 yards of picking grass.

826
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,920
S3: Or reading lines from The Sound of Music.

827
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,920
S5: Or getting ready for a live shot at 6 p.m.. News.

828
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,279
S5: Oh my goodness, help is on the way. Let's get

829
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,840
S5: the right self-talk going on here. This is crazy.

830
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,520
S1: He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then

831
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,920
S1: he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl

832
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,640
S1: and crew on Moody Radio.

833
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,760
S5: What a privilege. And I mean this from the bottom

834
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,200
S5: of my heart, because it's not often that we get

835
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,160
S5: someone in here who has something that dovetails so beautifully with, really,

836
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,280
S5: the cry of so many hearts out there, and that is, oh,

837
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,080
S5: how am I going to deal with these, with these

838
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,680
S5: thoughts rattling around in our mind? We're just coming off

839
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,799
S5: this conversation on shame. And boy, this is timely, isn't it?

840
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,600
S3: It really is. Because you think about it. All of

841
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,560
S3: us talk to ourselves and I know it's you. You

842
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,319
S3: don't like to admit it, but.

843
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:00,680
S5: We do.

844
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,360
S3: Though. All of us. All of us have conversations, sometimes audibly.

845
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,009
S3: Have you ever been have you ever had just like

846
00:43:06,010 --> 00:43:09,450
S3: a conversation like. And somebody's like, who are you talking to?

847
00:43:09,489 --> 00:43:11,810
S5: Don't do this to me. Because as I get older,

848
00:43:11,810 --> 00:43:13,930
S5: I did this. I did this the other day. I

849
00:43:13,930 --> 00:43:19,650
S5: was talking, and then I realized, Carl, there is no

850
00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:23,730
S5: one here. And if anyone should appear, they will think

851
00:43:23,770 --> 00:43:26,529
S5: you have lost your ever loving mind. But we all

852
00:43:26,530 --> 00:43:27,330
S5: do it, don't we?

853
00:43:27,370 --> 00:43:28,450
S10: John Gager.

854
00:43:28,489 --> 00:43:28,969
S3: Right.

855
00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:30,770
S13: We do it all day, every day. It's it's sort

856
00:43:30,770 --> 00:43:34,250
S13: of this uninvited audio stream that plays 24 over seven

857
00:43:34,290 --> 00:43:37,130
S13: in our heads. That's self-talk in a sentence. Yeah.

858
00:43:37,170 --> 00:43:40,689
S3: And so how can we change the dynamic of what

859
00:43:40,690 --> 00:43:43,810
S3: we are saying to ourselves? I'm not talking about the conversation.

860
00:43:43,810 --> 00:43:46,450
S3: You have the imaginary one you practice with your boss.

861
00:43:46,450 --> 00:43:48,810
S3: You're going to ask for the promotion. So you you

862
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:51,210
S3: run it through when you're alone. And then I'm talking

863
00:43:51,210 --> 00:43:53,969
S3: about the the words that you say to yourself, not

864
00:43:54,010 --> 00:43:56,890
S3: out loud, but boy, it's a loop. That doesn't stop.

865
00:43:56,890 --> 00:43:59,049
S3: John Gager, our guest right now. He's the author of

866
00:43:59,050 --> 00:43:59,930
S3: a great book.

867
00:43:59,969 --> 00:44:00,370
S10: Just.

868
00:44:00,370 --> 00:44:04,380
S3: Out. It's called Powerful Self-talk from the Psalms. John, what

869
00:44:04,420 --> 00:44:07,819
S3: gave you the motivation to write this book? Was it

870
00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:09,420
S3: the talking to yourself?

871
00:44:09,460 --> 00:44:13,700
S13: Absolutely. I'm guilty as charged, Karl. That's me too. And

872
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:15,860
S13: so much of the time, I think my thoughts are negative.

873
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:19,140
S13: They're self bashing self. You shouldn't think that way. A

874
00:44:19,180 --> 00:44:22,500
S13: real Christian wouldn't be that way. The sort of the

875
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:25,620
S13: inciting incident, though, was the result of a plane ride.

876
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:28,580
S13: Believe it or not, I was flying from Chicago to

877
00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:31,379
S13: Colorado Springs to do an interview and had all my

878
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:34,219
S13: audio gear and iPad and everything, and got out at

879
00:44:34,219 --> 00:44:37,859
S13: the airport in Colorado Springs and readjusted everything and went

880
00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:41,420
S13: on to the interview set up. And there was no iPad.

881
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:42,300
S3: Oh.

882
00:44:42,620 --> 00:44:44,739
S13: I had I had left it back at the airport.

883
00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:46,859
S13: And for a lot of people, an iPad is a

884
00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:49,220
S13: thing they use for email. Play a game.

885
00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:50,339
S5: It's your life.

886
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:52,779
S13: That is my that is my laptop. I had all

887
00:44:52,780 --> 00:44:57,299
S13: kinds of unfinished book chapters, sermons, blogs. That morning, I'd

888
00:44:57,300 --> 00:44:59,580
S13: done a couple hundred bucks worth of freelance writing on

889
00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:03,109
S13: that thing. It was now down the toilet. My, My

890
00:45:03,110 --> 00:45:06,590
S13: initial reaction was to curl up in a fetal position. Yeah,

891
00:45:06,670 --> 00:45:09,109
S13: and you idiot, how could you do that? Why are

892
00:45:09,110 --> 00:45:12,989
S13: you so irresponsible? And I'm beating myself up. And then.

893
00:45:12,989 --> 00:45:17,070
S13: And then from Psalm 25, uh, my eyes are continually

894
00:45:17,070 --> 00:45:18,910
S13: toward the Lord, for he will rescue my feet from

895
00:45:18,910 --> 00:45:21,790
S13: the net. This verse bubbled up. I had just preached

896
00:45:21,790 --> 00:45:24,469
S13: on it 72 hours before, and I thought, I have.

897
00:45:24,469 --> 00:45:27,390
S13: I have got to either live this or get out.

898
00:45:27,390 --> 00:45:31,750
S13: And so I began praying that verse all day long,

899
00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:34,830
S13: every single time those thoughts came to me and God

900
00:45:34,830 --> 00:45:36,790
S13: made a difference, I did. I did not curl up

901
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:38,629
S13: in a ball and die. And as a matter of fact,

902
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:41,750
S13: we got the iPad back. The the happy thing that

903
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:44,469
S13: was not getting the iPad back. The happy thing is

904
00:45:44,469 --> 00:45:47,509
S13: knowing that scripture works and that we can rewire our self-talk.

905
00:45:47,550 --> 00:45:50,310
S5: Yeah, this. Come on, let's face it, John, this is

906
00:45:50,310 --> 00:45:54,509
S5: an epidemic. We're getting crushed with bad self-talk, aren't we?

907
00:45:54,910 --> 00:45:56,830
S13: I think so. I mean, I don't know a single

908
00:45:56,830 --> 00:45:59,270
S13: person who doesn't go, yeah, I guess I do kind

909
00:45:59,270 --> 00:46:00,190
S13: of beat myself up.

910
00:46:00,230 --> 00:46:03,560
S5: And by the way, it's not just you can beat

911
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,440
S5: yourself up. Bad self-talk can go a couple of different ways.

912
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,640
S5: You can do self-loathing and self-exalting. I mean, self-talk has

913
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,759
S5: it's no respecter of kind of brand. It'll pound you

914
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,760
S5: one way or the other.

915
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,080
S13: No, that's well said. We can go both extremes and

916
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,640
S13: we do. You know, it's amazing. We, who are so

917
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,440
S13: excellent at trashing ourselves, are also willing to, uh, trumpet

918
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,000
S13: ourselves now and again.

919
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:25,960
S5: Yes, yes.

920
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,600
S3: So, John, why do we seem to be so hard

921
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,560
S3: wired to be really, really hard on ourselves? Let's talk

922
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,320
S3: about the hurt that sometimes prompts this self-talk.

923
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,040
S13: You know, sometimes I wonder if it isn't an attempt

924
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,040
S13: to want to appear humble, which is pride and disguise. Yes,

925
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,440
S13: sometimes we just don't know what to do, and we

926
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,080
S13: haven't chosen to really trust that God's Word has the

927
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,240
S13: power it claims to have.

928
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,359
S5: How do we analyze that? How do we know that

929
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,440
S5: we're talking wrongly to ourselves? How do we know we're

930
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,640
S5: hurting ourselves?

931
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,719
S13: Well, the mirror is the Word of God itself. And

932
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,050
S13: if it if it doesn't square up with that, then

933
00:47:01,210 --> 00:47:04,009
S13: we know we're out of bounds. And the more we,

934
00:47:04,010 --> 00:47:06,730
S13: I think, pump the Word of God into our hearts,

935
00:47:06,930 --> 00:47:09,570
S13: the more we're going to have that that presence. Um,

936
00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:11,770
S13: I'm not trying to tell the world that I've mastered this.

937
00:47:11,770 --> 00:47:14,370
S13: Carl and Ellie, you can ask my wife, but I

938
00:47:14,370 --> 00:47:18,649
S13: have tasted it and I have sampled it and have

939
00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:21,490
S13: started to live it. And I could tell you any

940
00:47:21,489 --> 00:47:24,610
S13: number of stories of where this stuff has actually come

941
00:47:24,650 --> 00:47:26,290
S13: out in real life struggles.

942
00:47:26,690 --> 00:47:28,970
S5: John, I want to get really personal here for a second.

943
00:47:29,010 --> 00:47:31,489
S5: Do most people's and I don't want you to even

944
00:47:31,489 --> 00:47:34,450
S5: refer to yourself because you don't know everyone, but you

945
00:47:34,450 --> 00:47:38,049
S5: see some trend lines in your study, I'm sure. Does

946
00:47:38,050 --> 00:47:42,570
S5: most of this self-talk the hurt to be hard on ourselves?

947
00:47:42,969 --> 00:47:46,610
S5: Is this derived from family of origin, or from substitute

948
00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:49,089
S5: gods that we picked up along the way, or the

949
00:47:49,130 --> 00:47:52,610
S5: kind of the cultural bent we were raised in? What's

950
00:47:52,610 --> 00:47:53,650
S5: your opinion on this?

951
00:47:53,650 --> 00:47:55,250
S13: I'm just going to take a shot and guess it

952
00:47:55,250 --> 00:47:56,930
S13: has a lot to do with, you know, how we

953
00:47:56,969 --> 00:47:59,780
S13: were raised. Maybe it has a lot to do with

954
00:47:59,980 --> 00:48:03,540
S13: maybe the influences of others around us right now. Um,

955
00:48:04,219 --> 00:48:06,980
S13: that's just the way we are. I think, uh, when.

956
00:48:06,980 --> 00:48:07,860
S5: The attack of Satan.

957
00:48:07,860 --> 00:48:10,379
S13: Yeah, for sure. He loves to keep us down. Yeah.

958
00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:12,940
S13: What a better position to be in than somebody who says,

959
00:48:12,980 --> 00:48:14,859
S13: I'm never going to be able to think, right? I'm

960
00:48:14,860 --> 00:48:16,219
S13: never going to be able to do right. I'm never

961
00:48:16,219 --> 00:48:18,060
S13: going to be able to make the Word of God

962
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:20,299
S13: the power that others claim it is in their lives.

963
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:22,819
S3: What do we learn from David? I mean, obviously you're

964
00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:24,500
S3: drawing from the Psalms here.

965
00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:27,259
S13: I love David.

966
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:28,219
S14: I do too.

967
00:48:28,780 --> 00:48:30,219
S13: And, you know, for so many years I thought, what

968
00:48:30,219 --> 00:48:32,819
S13: is with this guy? He's swinging wildly in praise one

969
00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:35,300
S13: moment and he's down in the dumps the next. And

970
00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:38,460
S13: and the older you get, then you realize that's life.

971
00:48:39,340 --> 00:48:40,420
S14: That's exactly right.

972
00:48:40,620 --> 00:48:43,540
S13: And so what we learned from David is that God

973
00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:47,700
S13: can be trusted, that his word is true, and that

974
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:52,340
S13: His Word influences our thinking right now. It's not just

975
00:48:52,540 --> 00:48:55,700
S13: pie in the sky stuff. It's not just, you know, people.

976
00:48:55,739 --> 00:48:58,430
S13: People sometimes write off the Psalms as praise songs, and

977
00:48:58,430 --> 00:49:01,189
S13: many of them are prayers. Many of them are. But

978
00:49:01,190 --> 00:49:04,710
S13: David talks to himself, I have set the Lord always

979
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:07,670
S13: before me because he is at my right hand. I

980
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:08,989
S13: will not be shaken.

981
00:49:09,469 --> 00:49:12,549
S5: I love the term down in the dumps. Down in

982
00:49:12,550 --> 00:49:14,630
S5: the dumps. I don't know if it was my dad,

983
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:16,870
S5: but it was that culture. It was that group. And

984
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:19,350
S5: I've still hung on to that term, that phrase. I

985
00:49:19,350 --> 00:49:22,950
S5: think you're it's I think it's in your vocabulary as well, John.

986
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:25,750
S5: A lot of believers spend a lot of time down

987
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:28,750
S5: in the dumps. Is it too much? What do you think?

988
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:31,950
S13: Yes, way too much. I think so. You know, we

989
00:49:31,950 --> 00:49:34,110
S13: talk so much about grace in our day and age.

990
00:49:34,110 --> 00:49:35,830
S13: And there are people, I suppose, that have, you know,

991
00:49:35,870 --> 00:49:38,630
S13: OD'd on that concept and and loosed it from other,

992
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:41,910
S13: other theological things that need to be there. But there

993
00:49:41,950 --> 00:49:43,830
S13: are an awful lot of us that just don't get

994
00:49:43,870 --> 00:49:46,790
S13: God's riches at Christ's expense. I spent, I don't know

995
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:49,549
S13: how many months studying every single verse on grace, one

996
00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:51,630
S13: time that appears in the Bible, and I came up

997
00:49:51,630 --> 00:49:52,950
S13: with my own definition.

998
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:53,629
S5: Oh, good.

999
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:56,840
S13: It's the loveliness of Jesus at its loveliest.

1000
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:57,680
S5: Wow.

1001
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,560
S13: The loveliness of Jesus that its loveliness. I know there

1002
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,080
S13: are others that are far more profound and far, but

1003
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,120
S13: that's what I came away with. And I don't know,

1004
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,040
S13: we just don't think we're good enough to receive that sometimes.

1005
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,399
S3: John Gager, our guest right now, the book is called

1006
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,799
S3: Powerful Self-talk from the Psalms 40 days to a Biblical Mindset.

1007
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,759
S3: Coming up, let's talk about the how we know that

1008
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,520
S3: the Word of God is right there in at our fingertips.

1009
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,479
S3: How do we get it to rewire our brains more

1010
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,720
S3: with our guest coming up?

1011
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,120
S1: You're listening to Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

1012
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,279
S5: So we're hardwired to be hard on ourselves. Can I

1013
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,800
S5: get an amen from anyone?

1014
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,320
S10: Amen.

1015
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,799
S5: All right. And David had real problems. And he was

1016
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,440
S5: a man's man. And he was dancing big time. Ticked

1017
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,120
S5: off a wife, and he was down in the dumps

1018
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,960
S5: as well. Can I get an amen?

1019
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,480
S10: Amen.

1020
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,440
S5: All right. Just making sure we're tracking here. John Gager,

1021
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,480
S5: our guest right now, author of a brand new book,

1022
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,410
S5: just came out yesterday, Powerful self-talk from the Psalms. And

1023
00:50:57,410 --> 00:50:59,770
S5: I'm loving this. And I'm telling you, it's going to

1024
00:50:59,770 --> 00:51:02,330
S5: go out the door like cordwood here today in the

1025
00:51:02,330 --> 00:51:06,890
S5: middle of winter. The how, uh, we speak scripture. How

1026
00:51:06,890 --> 00:51:09,169
S5: do we do this? How do we begin to my

1027
00:51:09,170 --> 00:51:11,610
S5: bride calls it re wallpaper in your mind.

1028
00:51:11,770 --> 00:51:12,489
S10: Because I like that.

1029
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:14,569
S5: Yeah, that's what my bride calls it. So how do

1030
00:51:14,570 --> 00:51:15,489
S5: we do this?

1031
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:20,969
S13: Well, we literally speak scripture to every anxious, fearful, ungodly thought.

1032
00:51:21,330 --> 00:51:24,730
S13: We literally speak the Scripture and out loud if necessary,

1033
00:51:24,730 --> 00:51:27,609
S13: I do, I really do. That day when I lost

1034
00:51:27,610 --> 00:51:31,570
S13: the iPad, I had to keep quoting that verse over

1035
00:51:31,570 --> 00:51:34,970
S13: and over. And again, this does not happen magically to us.

1036
00:51:35,410 --> 00:51:36,649
S13: Now a lot of people think, you know, ah.

1037
00:51:36,690 --> 00:51:39,250
S15: Yeah, you're getting to be a godly person there.

1038
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:39,930
S10: No.

1039
00:51:40,290 --> 00:51:42,810
S13: It's going to take practice. How do we practice? What

1040
00:51:42,810 --> 00:51:45,529
S13: are we practicing? You know, practice doesn't make perfect. You

1041
00:51:45,530 --> 00:51:46,810
S13: can practice the wrong way.

1042
00:51:46,850 --> 00:51:47,610
S5: You're right.

1043
00:51:47,730 --> 00:51:51,770
S13: Uh, we practice by memorizing the Word of God and reviewing.

1044
00:51:51,770 --> 00:51:54,750
S13: We practice by meditating. Don't just cram the words but

1045
00:51:54,750 --> 00:51:57,590
S13: thinking about them. So we're meditating. And three we practice

1046
00:51:57,590 --> 00:52:01,790
S13: by switching gears. People say, well, I just can't memorize.

1047
00:52:01,790 --> 00:52:04,150
S13: My brain doesn't work that way. I hear that so often,

1048
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:08,590
S13: but everybody I know can quote a slogan of advertising.

1049
00:52:08,590 --> 00:52:11,190
S13: Everybody I know knows a hook from a song. They

1050
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:13,870
S13: know something. So why not at least say, okay, then

1051
00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:17,029
S13: I'll grab a phrase of scripture. I will bless the

1052
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:18,150
S13: Lord at all times.

1053
00:52:18,469 --> 00:52:22,990
S5: So meditating. It's interesting, John, that word in the Hebrew

1054
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:27,110
S5: is Hagar and it means to mutter, moan, speak. This

1055
00:52:27,110 --> 00:52:30,750
S5: notion that everything has to be rattled around up here.

1056
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:35,390
S5: Your title of your book is Powerful Self-talk. It is

1057
00:52:35,390 --> 00:52:37,589
S5: important to get it off of our lips, isn't it,

1058
00:52:37,590 --> 00:52:38,190
S5: my friend?

1059
00:52:38,190 --> 00:52:40,029
S13: Oh, we have to. It has to become a part

1060
00:52:40,030 --> 00:52:42,390
S13: of our brains, part of our hearts, part of our

1061
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:45,350
S13: our thought stream. And the only way I've known to

1062
00:52:45,350 --> 00:52:47,629
S13: do that again is to memorize it, and then to

1063
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:49,950
S13: speak it and let it be part of our lifestyle.

1064
00:52:50,270 --> 00:52:53,840
S13: I remember, um, a hard drive failing on me. I'm

1065
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,640
S13: working on a video project, and all these files are

1066
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,160
S13: all now at risk because the computer says can't find

1067
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,600
S13: the hard drive. I've got hours into this and I

1068
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,680
S13: am scared out of my wits. And, you know, instead

1069
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,160
S13: of again curling up in that fetal position, I said, no,

1070
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,480
S13: no no no no no no. I have set the

1071
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,200
S13: Lord before me because he is at my right hand.

1072
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,120
S13: I will not be shaken. And I prayed about it, said, Lord,

1073
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,040
S13: please help. And you know, with a little bit of fiddling,

1074
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,719
S13: that hard drive came back online and I thought, wow,

1075
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,400
S13: there it is again. We don't have to fall prey

1076
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,319
S13: to these sad cycles of getting sucked into extreme anxiety.

1077
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,640
S3: And, you know, this is powerful self-talk from the Psalms,

1078
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,200
S3: which I think is important because it's very common for

1079
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,520
S3: people to talk about sort of self-affirmations things that I

1080
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,919
S3: say about me, that I then hope to believe that

1081
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,720
S3: I am enough, that I.

1082
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:42,880
S10: Am.

1083
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,640
S5: Everywhere, isn't.

1084
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:43,799
S10: It?

1085
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,760
S3: It's everywhere. So speak to that a little bit. Because

1086
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,800
S3: not all self-talk, even positive self-talk, is created equal.

1087
00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:53,570
S13: Yeah. And let's face it, there's an awful lot of

1088
00:53:53,570 --> 00:53:56,290
S13: of that going around. But we memorize the word of

1089
00:53:56,290 --> 00:53:59,050
S13: God for the, the power that it is to change

1090
00:53:59,050 --> 00:54:03,570
S13: our weakened, deformed, deceitful hearts. And when it gets in,

1091
00:54:03,570 --> 00:54:05,969
S13: it has a way of correcting us. You know, one

1092
00:54:05,969 --> 00:54:08,210
S13: of the best gifts I ever got at Christmas, guys,

1093
00:54:08,210 --> 00:54:10,810
S13: was a family gift. We had four boys in our home,

1094
00:54:10,810 --> 00:54:13,489
S13: and one day for one Christmas, dad got us a

1095
00:54:13,489 --> 00:54:16,010
S13: strombeck slot car racing set.

1096
00:54:16,650 --> 00:54:17,050
S10: Oh.

1097
00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:20,730
S13: Was that awesome? You hit the plunger on that controller?

1098
00:54:20,770 --> 00:54:22,770
S5: Oh, yeah. The plungers full blast.

1099
00:54:22,770 --> 00:54:25,169
S13: That's every boy you know. And poor dad, he spent

1100
00:54:25,170 --> 00:54:29,009
S13: the entire Christmas break putting those cars back on the track.

1101
00:54:29,210 --> 00:54:31,770
S13: That is what the Word of God does. Our Heavenly

1102
00:54:31,770 --> 00:54:35,129
S13: Father patiently puts our minds back on the track, and

1103
00:54:35,130 --> 00:54:38,370
S13: it happens again and again. Every time we're willing to

1104
00:54:38,410 --> 00:54:40,330
S13: turn our minds over to the Word of God and

1105
00:54:40,330 --> 00:54:41,250
S13: let it do its thing.

1106
00:54:41,570 --> 00:54:42,170
S10: Boom!

1107
00:54:42,210 --> 00:54:46,770
S5: That is a powerful picture. Okay, boom crew. Here's the deal.

1108
00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:49,730
S5: I really mean this. This is I don't know, what

1109
00:54:49,730 --> 00:54:52,980
S5: would you do? Ali, if you're ranking this in things

1110
00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:57,660
S5: that can derail us. Um, it's this whole self-talk issue.

1111
00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:59,580
S5: Or not being armed with the Word of God and

1112
00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:01,860
S5: speaking it back over us. This is this is high.

1113
00:55:02,140 --> 00:55:03,980
S3: This has to be right at the top of the list.

1114
00:55:04,020 --> 00:55:06,259
S3: I mean, it starts. What did you say in your

1115
00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:10,220
S3: truth blog that whatever you believe about yourself, you'll today

1116
00:55:10,219 --> 00:55:12,100
S3: will be lived out tomorrow?

1117
00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:12,740
S10: Yeah.

1118
00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:15,940
S3: If you want more information on this book, just text

1119
00:55:15,980 --> 00:55:25,220
S3: talk to 855 five 7898 text talk to 805 55 7898.

1120
00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:28,219
S5: Yeah. And when you get it, when you get this link, um,

1121
00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:30,739
S5: here's what I want you to think about. Share it

1122
00:55:30,739 --> 00:55:35,380
S5: with others who, you know, are getting their spiritual tails

1123
00:55:35,380 --> 00:55:38,900
S5: kicked in this very area, and then partner up with them.

1124
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:40,020
S5: Grab it right now.

1125
00:55:40,219 --> 00:55:45,620
S3: Text the word talk to 800 555 7898. T a

1126
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S3: l k talk to 805 55 7898.