WEBVTT - Hour 2: More Memorial Day Weekend Mailbag Answers 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.280 Hello friends. It's time for the second hour of Open 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:16.000 Line with Doctor Michael Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.680 and the world. And we're talking about your questions about 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.000 the Bible, God and the spiritual life. My name is 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.880 Michael Ray. I'm professor of Jewish studies and Bible at 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.520 Moody Bible Institute. So glad you're with me today. If 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.200 you have a Bible question today, don't phone in. It's 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:37.080 a special all mailbag, all the time edition of Open Line. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.920 But you can write your question. Just go to our website, 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.840 Open Line Radio.com, and you'll see a link there that 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.680 says Ask Michael a question. 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And also 0:02:26.010 --> 0:02:29.650 when you get there, uh, look for their podcast with 0:02:29.650 --> 0:02:33.250 Ed Cannon to all have heard. And I think knowing 0:02:33.290 --> 0:02:37.450 about Febc is a great benefit of anyone to know 0:02:37.450 --> 0:02:40.890 how to pray for reaching people around the world. Uh, okay. 0:02:40.889 --> 0:02:42.490 We're going to go right back to the mailbag, though. 0:02:42.530 --> 0:02:45.770 All right. We're going to dive in here. Rich Rodas, uh, 0:02:45.770 --> 0:02:48.369 listens on the website and says, I'm currently located in 0:02:48.370 --> 0:02:51.370 China and I love your show. I understand the concept 0:02:51.370 --> 0:02:55.410 of sin, but I don't understand evil. Uh, there are 0:02:56.130 --> 0:03:00.480 bad things that happen that, you know, awful things that happen, 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:05.559 that just anguish and anger people, especially when it involves children. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.399 How can these types of evil exist and not be 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.600 swiftly taken care of by God, knowing the evildoers will 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.280 land in hell or even be redeemed and forgiven seems unjust? 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.920 The delay in swift justice nearly shakes the faith of 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:18.799 the believers. 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:19.520 Yeah. 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.560 Yeah, I think, you know you can fill in the 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.880 blank for whatever kind of evil that and horrible, heartbreaking 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.360 things are happening that you see to your own family 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.920 or just internationally in the news. But I think he's 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.960 brought up an important link here when he says, I 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.400 understand the concept of sin, but I don't understand evil. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.120 I think that evil is an outgrowth of sin. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:47.520 Mhm. Yeah. And and of course, uh, he's not asking 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.080 why do bad things happen to good people. Right. He's 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.760 actually saying, why do good things happen to bad people? 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.060 And why doesn't God judge them instantly? You know, we've 0:03:58.060 --> 0:04:00.660 all been in a situation when we hear someone say 0:04:00.660 --> 0:04:03.700 something blasphemous or you see someone doing something terrible, we 0:04:03.700 --> 0:04:05.900 want to say, let's step aside because we think a 0:04:05.900 --> 0:04:09.140 bolt of lightning is coming out right now. Well, that's 0:04:09.140 --> 0:04:13.020 what the psalmist Asaph or Asaph was thinking of when 0:04:13.020 --> 0:04:18.220 he wrote Psalm 73, and he's struggling with the fact 0:04:18.220 --> 0:04:27.420 that God is not. Acting quickly to judge them. And listen, 0:04:27.420 --> 0:04:28.860 I just want you to hear a couple of things 0:04:28.860 --> 0:04:29.779 that he says. 0:04:30.380 --> 0:04:31.500 This is Psalm 73. 0:04:31.620 --> 0:04:34.700 Psalm 73, verse 15. He says, if I had decided 0:04:34.740 --> 0:04:37.339 to say these things aloud about all these doubts and 0:04:37.380 --> 0:04:40.380 worries and concerns that he had, I would have betrayed 0:04:40.380 --> 0:04:42.940 your people. When I tried to understand all this, it 0:04:42.940 --> 0:04:48.900 seemed hopeless until I entered God's sanctuary. Then I understood 0:04:48.940 --> 0:04:52.940 their destiny. Indeed. You have put them in slippery places. 0:04:52.940 --> 0:04:57.200 You make them fall into ruin. How suddenly they become 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.200 a desolation. So the first thing he understands is when 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.200 he goes to worship. He says, you know what? It 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.800 looks like they're not going to face judgment, but God 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.840 will act there. Think about walking on ice. How suddenly, 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:15.080 in those slippery places this has happened to me. You know, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.080 I let my dogs out the side and it's here, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.400 cold and snowy in Chicago, and the little pathway at 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.800 the side of my house is turned to ice, and 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.320 I'm walking along there, and next thing you know, I'm 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.080 flat on my back suddenly. And that's what this is 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.239 talking about, that that's what the destiny that God has 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.400 for the wicked, that there's going to be sudden judgment. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:41.520 And then another thing, he says, uh, that he was stupid, 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.000 he was embittered. I was stupid and didn't understand. I 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:50.120 was an unthinking animal toward you. That's verse 22. And 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.560 I really pondered why it was that he says, I 0:05:52.710 --> 0:05:55.669 was an animal when I was only living in the 0:05:55.670 --> 0:05:58.710 moment and trying to figure out, why isn't God judging now? 0:05:59.589 --> 0:06:01.910 Why does he wait? He's I think he says I 0:06:01.910 --> 0:06:06.630 was an animal before you because animals want instantaneous. They 0:06:06.630 --> 0:06:10.070 don't think about the future. They're only in the present. 0:06:10.470 --> 0:06:11.870 We used to have a dog that we wanted to 0:06:11.870 --> 0:06:13.510 put outside, and he didn't want to go outside when 0:06:13.510 --> 0:06:17.229 we were leaving. And so we would we would stand 0:06:17.230 --> 0:06:19.510 there on the deck, you know, step out. Come on, 0:06:19.510 --> 0:06:20.870 come on. He'd just look at us like, no, I'm 0:06:20.870 --> 0:06:23.230 not going out. And then every time I would take 0:06:23.230 --> 0:06:24.270 a little treat. 0:06:24.750 --> 0:06:25.870 Little tiny dog biscuit. 0:06:25.910 --> 0:06:27.390 Yeah. What would you do? 0:06:27.430 --> 0:06:29.270 Toss it out. He'd run right out after that. 0:06:29.670 --> 0:06:32.830 And then I closed the door and he'd like, oh, 0:06:32.870 --> 0:06:35.110 I totally forgot they were going to close the door 0:06:35.750 --> 0:06:37.589 because he was in the moment. He didn't have a 0:06:37.589 --> 0:06:41.150 sense of future. But we are eternal beings, and we 0:06:41.150 --> 0:06:44.790 recognize that there is a future and there will be 0:06:44.790 --> 0:06:48.870 a judgment for these things. And we shouldn't be beasts 0:06:48.870 --> 0:06:52.580 before God, but rather we should Understand that God has 0:06:52.580 --> 0:06:55.779 a purpose and a plan, and even though these evil 0:06:55.779 --> 0:07:00.740 things happen and he will judge. Uh, it's who knows 0:07:00.740 --> 0:07:04.059 why it is that. He doesn't judge instantly, but their 0:07:04.060 --> 0:07:08.060 feet are in slippery places. He has a purpose and 0:07:08.060 --> 0:07:10.100 a plan, and he will fulfill it. 0:07:10.460 --> 0:07:12.140 And this is you know, I think that all of 0:07:12.140 --> 0:07:15.660 us who love God and hate evil are struck with 0:07:15.660 --> 0:07:19.220 this question when we see things happen. And and I 0:07:19.220 --> 0:07:21.820 think another encouraging passage for all of us to take 0:07:21.820 --> 0:07:24.940 a look at is Habakkuk, because he begins the book 0:07:24.940 --> 0:07:28.380 and he says, how long, O Lord, will I call 0:07:28.380 --> 0:07:30.740 for help? And you will not hear? I cry out 0:07:30.740 --> 0:07:33.900 to you, violence, and yet you do not save. Why 0:07:33.900 --> 0:07:36.140 do you make me see iniquity and cause me to 0:07:36.180 --> 0:07:38.900 look on wickedness? And so and the whole book is 0:07:38.900 --> 0:07:41.100 this kind of question. And at the end it resolves 0:07:41.100 --> 0:07:43.620 that he says, yet I trust God and know he's 0:07:43.620 --> 0:07:47.260 going to bring righteous judgment. So read Habakkuk, along with 0:07:47.300 --> 0:07:50.920 Psalm 73, to to look for encouragement to these heart 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:51.960 breaking questions. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.480 Okay, thank you for that encouragement. Thank you for your question, Rich. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:01.680 Peggy in Illinois listens to. Since witchcraft is mentioned in 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.520 the Bible, what may be done today to address it? 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.440 Are there any books that I could read or prayers 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.680 for protection when I live next to a woman who 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.200 practices witchcraft? 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:17.200 Well, you know, I think with in her question, there 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.040 is a warning flag for anyone who is thinking along 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.840 this way. Looking for a book to or prayer to 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:28.240 say for protection is almost wandering into the realm of 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.640 the occult itself. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:30.400 Yeah. We don't. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:30.760 We. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.360 Don't want to run and get garlic or anything like that. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:37.160 Hang up wolfbane or horseshoes or, you know, spit three 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.160 times and turn around. Um, that's not what we need 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.000 to do when we're confronted with any kind of evil 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:43.959 or wickedness. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.319 So whenever I think about witchcraft and demons and evil, 0:08:49.020 --> 0:08:54.780 I'm always drawn to Luke chapter ten when the 70 0:08:54.820 --> 0:08:59.140 returned with joy, saying, Lord, this is verse 17. Lord, 0:08:59.179 --> 0:09:02.459 even the demons submit to us in your name. So 0:09:02.460 --> 0:09:05.420 Jesus sent out 70 of his followers, gave them authority 0:09:05.420 --> 0:09:09.100 to preach, and they were like, wow! We can cast 0:09:09.100 --> 0:09:14.460 out demons. And he said to them, I watched Satan 0:09:14.460 --> 0:09:17.420 fall from heaven like a lightning flash. In other words, 0:09:17.420 --> 0:09:20.220 Satan is a defeated foe. He was already cast out 0:09:20.220 --> 0:09:23.740 of heaven. He was already judged at that point. He's 0:09:23.740 --> 0:09:27.820 going to be judged again at at the crucifixion of 0:09:27.820 --> 0:09:31.820 the Messiah when he crushes the, the, the head of 0:09:31.820 --> 0:09:35.420 the serpent, so to speak, from Genesis 315. He'll be 0:09:35.420 --> 0:09:38.740 cast ultimately into the abyss, not ultimately into the abyss. 0:09:39.300 --> 0:09:41.300 And then judge one more time, he'll be cast into 0:09:41.300 --> 0:09:44.340 the lake of fire. So Jesus is talking about Satan 0:09:44.340 --> 0:09:46.580 as a defeated foe. And then he says, look, I've 0:09:46.620 --> 0:09:50.090 given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and 0:09:50.090 --> 0:09:54.250 over all the power of the enemy. Nothing will ever 0:09:54.250 --> 0:09:56.930 harm you. So that's what I would say to Peggy. 0:09:56.970 --> 0:10:00.250 Nothing's going to harm you. She can't do anything to you. 0:10:01.290 --> 0:10:05.330 She may try, but she can't. Uh, you are under 0:10:05.330 --> 0:10:10.170 the protection of the Holy Spirit. You are secure and safe. 0:10:11.050 --> 0:10:15.530 Then he says, uh. However, don't rejoice that the spirits 0:10:15.530 --> 0:10:18.810 submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written 0:10:18.809 --> 0:10:21.809 in heaven. In other words, Jesus says, don't focus on 0:10:21.809 --> 0:10:26.650 the occult. Don't focus on demons. Don't focus on this stuff. 0:10:26.929 --> 0:10:30.490 Focus on your own salvation. Focus on the fact that 0:10:30.490 --> 0:10:33.010 you know the Lord. So I think when I meet 0:10:33.010 --> 0:10:35.810 believers that are sort of consumed with the demonic world, 0:10:35.809 --> 0:10:40.010 with witchcraft, with with demonization and all these different things, 0:10:40.010 --> 0:10:42.490 I want to say Jesus said, that's not that's not 0:10:42.490 --> 0:10:45.730 our focus. Our focus ought to be on what God 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.520 has provided for us, not what the enemy is trying 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:49.240 to do to us. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.680 Right? And I think we need to encourage ourselves by knowing, 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.320 as it says in second Timothy one seven, God has 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.800 not given us the spirit of fear, but power and 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.920 love and a strong mind. And then he goes on 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.079 to say in first John that greater is he who 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.200 is in you than he who is in the world. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.000 So stop being afraid and instead refocus your mind on 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:08.880 the Lord Jesus. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.560 She talks about I did not read this part of 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.559 the email, but she talks about specific things that this 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:16.680 neighbor has. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:17.679 Who cares? 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.360 Okay, I was going to say, how do you how 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.959 do you when you see those sometimes the visible you 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.480 can freak yourself out with those things, right? Because you 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.840 start dwelling on them and thinking about them. So what 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.000 could she do to intentionally focus on the salvation and 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.240 to focus on not being fearful and these kinds of things, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:35.720 but memorizing the Scripture. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.480 Here's a here's something that I think I'm sure you 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.040 can find it on the internet. I know it's in 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:46.900 Lewis Sperry Chafer, Systematic Theology 33 benefits of our salvation. Uh, 0:11:47.179 --> 0:11:50.260 if you look up Louis Barry Schaefer, maybe I'm speaking 0:11:50.260 --> 0:11:54.020 out of turn, but I'm guessing that if you googled 0:11:54.340 --> 0:12:01.460 chafer Lewis Sperry Chafer, 33 Benefits of Salvation. And he 0:12:01.460 --> 0:12:04.660 lists them, they're wonderful. Uh, and. 0:12:04.700 --> 0:12:06.059 And these are things like. 0:12:06.220 --> 0:12:09.980 Uh, security that we are safe in God's hands. Uh, 0:12:09.980 --> 0:12:14.460 that and you just go through those and then meditate 0:12:14.460 --> 0:12:18.860 on that. Don't think about what I'm saying is that's 0:12:18.860 --> 0:12:20.060 how we rejoice. 0:12:20.220 --> 0:12:20.939 And and. 0:12:20.940 --> 0:12:22.820 In our names being written in the book of life. 0:12:22.820 --> 0:12:25.700 And these, uh, you know, statues or whatever she sees 0:12:25.700 --> 0:12:28.500 in her neighbor's yard. They're just like the idols that 0:12:28.500 --> 0:12:31.459 we see in the prophets that Isaiah and Jeremiah talked about. 0:12:31.500 --> 0:12:34.900 They are nothing. They are just plaster, and they have 0:12:34.900 --> 0:12:40.140 no power over her. So just avert your eyes and 0:12:40.140 --> 0:12:41.140 look back at Scripture. 0:12:41.179 --> 0:12:42.740 Yeah. Focus on Scripture. 0:12:42.900 --> 0:12:43.480 Yeah. Okay. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.400 All right. Thanks for that question, Peggy. Did you want 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.000 to go to the break? 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.880 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Let's go to a break. Thank you. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:56.120 Thank you. I'm so glad you're here, Tricia. I'm ready 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.679 for more questions. Come on. We're going to go to 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.640 a break now. We're so glad that you're listening in 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.360 to Open Line with Tricia McMillan and me, Michael Radonich. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.840 We're going to be back with more of your questions 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:11.040 on this all mailbag, all the time program of Open Line. 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.880 So stay right there. We'll be back with more questions 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:26.439 straight ahead. Welcome back to Open Line. I'm Michael Radonich 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.840 I'm so glad you're joining me today. And I'm here 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:34.319 with my Bible answer partners. Eva Reed who is a 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:38.680 professor at Moody Bible Institute and also the a contributor 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.160 to the Moody Bible Commentary, the Moody Handbook of Messianic 0:13:41.309 --> 0:13:45.910 Prophecy and my partner in life. And also joining me 0:13:45.950 --> 0:13:48.870 right here is Tricia McMillan. She is the producer of 0:13:48.870 --> 0:13:50.870 Open Line. She's with me every week. You know her 0:13:50.870 --> 0:13:54.470 from the mailbag, the Febc mailbag portion that we do 0:13:54.510 --> 0:13:58.990 on the program every week. Uh, but I'm grateful for 0:13:58.990 --> 0:14:01.750 other partners, the kitchen table partners, or the people who 0:14:02.309 --> 0:14:04.990 keep open Line on the air every week by giving 0:14:04.990 --> 0:14:10.350 their gift monthly. And, uh, now, Tricia, sometimes I wonder 0:14:10.350 --> 0:14:13.550 why in the world would someone be willing or want 0:14:13.550 --> 0:14:15.550 to even become a kitchen table partner with so many 0:14:15.550 --> 0:14:18.350 people have, and I'm so grateful for them. Uh, but 0:14:18.350 --> 0:14:20.070 you said you just got a really cool email from 0:14:20.070 --> 0:14:22.310 someone who became a kitchen table partner today. 0:14:22.350 --> 0:14:25.790 Yes. Well, Diane emailed or sorry, gave a gift earlier 0:14:25.790 --> 0:14:28.470 this month and said I gave to Open Line because 0:14:28.470 --> 0:14:31.030 this program has helped me tremendously in having a better 0:14:31.030 --> 0:14:34.190 understanding of the scriptures, leading to my growing more in 0:14:34.190 --> 0:14:36.750 my walk and relationship with Jesus Christ. 0:14:36.790 --> 0:14:37.190 Wow. 0:14:37.550 --> 0:14:39.470 So I think that's why a lot of people give 0:14:39.630 --> 0:14:43.100 to support and join us around the radio kitchen table. 0:14:43.140 --> 0:14:46.260 Yeah, I was so grateful for people who want to 0:14:46.300 --> 0:14:50.420 partner with us. It is. I can't even express how 0:14:50.420 --> 0:14:54.260 grateful I am, and I really this is, you know, 0:14:54.300 --> 0:14:58.540 my real hope. When I first started Open Line back 0:14:58.540 --> 0:15:03.420 in 1957. Was to help people in their walk with 0:15:03.420 --> 0:15:05.740 the Lord. 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It says, uh, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:36.160 he went and made proclamation to the spirits in prison 0:16:37.060 --> 0:16:42.820 And therefore this person is saying, these are the evil 0:16:42.820 --> 0:16:48.260 spirits in prison right there, chained up, waiting future judgment. 0:16:49.380 --> 0:16:53.700 But I don't think that those spirits in prison are 0:16:53.700 --> 0:16:57.740 referring to demons, unless there's another verse that Lois is 0:16:57.740 --> 0:17:03.180 talking about. I think that's talking about, uh, that he 0:17:03.180 --> 0:17:06.980 made proclamation to the spirits who are now in prison. 0:17:07.020 --> 0:17:12.619 In other words, uh, in first Peter 319, it's talking 0:17:12.619 --> 0:17:15.660 about that Jesus preached through Noah to the people of 0:17:15.660 --> 0:17:18.619 Noah's day who rejected the message. And now they are 0:17:18.740 --> 0:17:22.899 spirits locked up in prison. Uh, is that. 0:17:23.340 --> 0:17:26.860 Perhaps there's a there's a passage in, um, verse in 0:17:26.859 --> 0:17:27.500 second Peter. 0:17:27.540 --> 0:17:28.300 Second Peter. 0:17:28.460 --> 0:17:31.020 Two four that said, for if God didn't spare the 0:17:31.020 --> 0:17:36.220 angels who sinned, but threw them down into Tartarus and 0:17:36.330 --> 0:17:39.290 delivered them to be kept in chains of darkness until judgment. 0:17:39.330 --> 0:17:43.690 Okay. Now, those, uh, there are some who are in 0:17:43.690 --> 0:17:47.369 the abyss. I believe in revelation. They are released in 0:17:47.369 --> 0:17:49.890 the tribulation period, and they ultimately will be judged and 0:17:49.890 --> 0:17:53.090 cast into the lake of fire. So there are some 0:17:53.130 --> 0:17:57.530 demons that have been not all, but some demons that 0:17:57.530 --> 0:18:00.050 are awaiting judgment. They're going to be released one more 0:18:00.050 --> 0:18:04.250 time from the abyss. Uh, and then they will again 0:18:04.290 --> 0:18:07.290 face judgement, final judgment, and be cast into the lake 0:18:07.290 --> 0:18:09.410 of fire. But I don't think it refers to all 0:18:09.850 --> 0:18:12.449 fallen angels, some of the fallen angels. And I'm not 0:18:12.450 --> 0:18:16.170 sure why God chose those to go into the abyss 0:18:16.170 --> 0:18:18.129 and await that final day when they're going to be 0:18:18.130 --> 0:18:23.530 released for one last attack. And I'm not sure God knows. 0:18:23.530 --> 0:18:26.010 I don't know, you know, no one knows. But it 0:18:26.010 --> 0:18:32.330 doesn't mean that all demons were placed in bondage there. Uh, 0:18:32.690 --> 0:18:36.000 there's some obviously many that are still active trying to 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.199 through through the work of Satan, which is he seeks. He. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.200 He is a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.840 So he goes about wanders the earth to do that, right? 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.560 So, um, yeah, in Jude six and seven also mentions, yeah, 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.320 some of the the eternal chains and darkness. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:53.840 Yeah. 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:55.919 And when we think about these things, though, don't you 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.520 think we need to go back to a little bit 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:58.920 of what we were saying about the woman who was 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.680 concerned about witchcraft. We don't need to be focusing on 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.880 this and being afraid of them. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.000 Yeah. It's not. It's I don't think it's healthy. I 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:12.960 think people really are too demon oriented at times when 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.880 they when they think about it. I think we need 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.840 to be salvation oriented. Not that we should be ignorant 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.439 of it, but when you look at how do we 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:24.240 deal with spiritual warfare? I think Ephesians six is don't 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.680 go looking for it. Stand against it. Uh, you don't 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.159 have to cast it out. You don't have to renounce it. 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.620 What it says is resist. Stand against. That's what it means. 0:19:35.020 --> 0:19:40.340 And and it says embody this lifestyle. And that's what the, the, 0:19:40.980 --> 0:19:43.940 the armor of God is. The armor of God is. 0:19:44.220 --> 0:19:47.179 It doesn't mean you pray it on. You live this lifestyle. 0:19:47.180 --> 0:19:49.659 So you know, you have the sword of the spirit, 0:19:49.660 --> 0:19:52.740 the Word of God, and read the word. You know, 0:19:53.300 --> 0:19:56.700 you have the breastplate of salvation. Focus on your salvation, 0:19:56.700 --> 0:20:00.379 which is our protection. Uh, if you have the if 0:20:00.380 --> 0:20:02.660 your feet are shod with the gospel of peace, that 0:20:02.660 --> 0:20:06.540 means go share the gospel. That's that's the lifestyle that 0:20:06.540 --> 0:20:10.980 we need to resist. And and I think that's where 0:20:10.980 --> 0:20:11.980 our focus ought to be. 0:20:12.020 --> 0:20:15.500 Okay. All right. Thanks for that question, Lois. Gary wrote 0:20:15.500 --> 0:20:18.580 us from Illinois, listens to WNBA. My wife and I 0:20:18.580 --> 0:20:25.460 were reading a devotional recently based on Luke 431 through 37. Um, 0:20:25.780 --> 0:20:31.980 which is Jesus going down and casting out, um, a man? Sorry. 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.320 Casting out demons out of a man who had an 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:43.520 unclean spirit. A demonic spirit. Mhm. Um, and the writer 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:47.240 of this devotional was a physician and says many doubt 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.879 the accuracy of this diagnosis, saying it was more likely 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:54.119 insanity or a seizure disorder, but certainly not demon possession. 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:57.480 There's even a medical diagnosis for this called trance and 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:01.840 possession disorders. Uh, Gary, who wrote in with the question, 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.440 says I'm troubled by this. I looked it up in 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.160 a Bible concordance, and the word demon is used 16 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.920 times in the Gospels. So I believe there's I'm fairly 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.080 certain that demons were at work and are at work 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.000 in the world and didn't see much in the commentary, 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.600 the Moody Bible commentary. So I was wondering what you thought. 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.840 Are these is this a delusion kind of thing, or 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:24.320 is this are they demons? Like. 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.320 I think when the Bible talks about demon possession or 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.520 actually the the most common phrases in the Bible are 0:21:30.670 --> 0:21:35.830 either demonization or demonized. That's the word that's used in Greek. 0:21:36.510 --> 0:21:39.230 It would really instead we we translated demon possession, but 0:21:39.230 --> 0:21:41.949 it should be demonized. He had a daughter who was demonized. 0:21:41.990 --> 0:21:45.790 The other thing is possessing a demon spirit. An evil spirit. 0:21:45.790 --> 0:21:51.070 That's another way it's described. Okay. And I think when 0:21:51.070 --> 0:21:54.990 the Bible talks about it. Yes, that's true. I think that, uh, 0:21:55.630 --> 0:21:58.949 first of all, uh, there was a, I think a 0:21:58.950 --> 0:22:00.750 real upsurge at the time of the coming of the 0:22:00.750 --> 0:22:06.430 Messiah of Demons activity, getting involved in people's lives in 0:22:06.430 --> 0:22:08.950 this way. And that's why there was so much confrontation 0:22:08.950 --> 0:22:11.229 about it by the Lord Jesus. I think there are 0:22:11.230 --> 0:22:17.030 still today animistic, demon oriented pagan cultures where there's still 0:22:17.070 --> 0:22:21.470 a good deal of demonization in the lives of people. Uh, 0:22:21.630 --> 0:22:27.230 I don't think believers can be demonized, but I think 0:22:27.230 --> 0:22:33.300 what happens and this is unfortunate. Just. We know this story, Eva. 0:22:33.700 --> 0:22:39.859 We had this friend who had, uh, psychological issues and 0:22:39.900 --> 0:22:43.580 was being treated by medicine. And someone told him, no, 0:22:43.580 --> 0:22:48.340 it's a demon. Stop taking the medicine. Uh, and it 0:22:48.340 --> 0:22:49.500 was a disaster. 0:22:49.900 --> 0:22:50.300 Yeah. 0:22:50.820 --> 0:22:56.260 So. Right. So, uh, they cast out, allegedly, the demon. 0:22:56.420 --> 0:22:57.939 And you're going to be fine. You don't need to 0:22:57.940 --> 0:23:00.580 take this medicine. But they actually did have a psychological issue. 0:23:00.740 --> 0:23:02.859 So I think in Luke four, we're dealing with a 0:23:02.859 --> 0:23:08.340 demonization issue. But today it's not always a demonization issue. 0:23:08.380 --> 0:23:13.020 Sometimes it's a psychological issue. And, you know, so, uh, 0:23:13.020 --> 0:23:14.899 I think the best thing is to see if a 0:23:14.900 --> 0:23:18.420 person is dealing with these issues, a Christian psychiatrist would 0:23:18.420 --> 0:23:22.380 be able to determine whether it's a demonization issue or 0:23:23.100 --> 0:23:25.940 a psychological issue. 0:23:26.500 --> 0:23:31.600 And and perhaps this devotional that they were talking about reading. 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:36.159 There are some people who want to strip the, the, the, the, 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.399 the New Testament of any sort of supernaturalism. And they 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.840 say it's all it's only it was only medical. It's 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:46.680 only natural. It's nothing supernatural. And that's not where we 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:48.280 want to go when we look at the scriptures. 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:49.160 Yeah. Okay. 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.120 All right. Thank you for that. Thanks for that question, Gary. 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:56.119 Autumn wrote us from Ohio listens to CRF going to 0:23:56.160 --> 0:24:01.399 Luke 15 now. Um, Jesus gives several parables. The first two, 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.399 the lost sheep and the lost coin display. A shepherd 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.720 or owner who seeks and finds the lost. The third 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.560 is The Lost Son depicts the lost having to come 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:14.640 back to the Master and Father, where the father is 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:18.200 not seeking, he's just standing and watching and waiting. Can 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.600 you explain the difference between these parables and how it 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.680 ties into salvation? Why was there no seeking in the 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:25.240 third parable of the Lost Son? 0:24:27.340 --> 0:24:29.620 I'm going to give a kind of a quick answer 0:24:29.619 --> 0:24:32.500 on this in parables. We have to ask, what is 0:24:32.500 --> 0:24:35.699 this about? This is not about how people come to salvation. 0:24:35.700 --> 0:24:40.020 It is about how much God values sinners, lost people 0:24:40.220 --> 0:24:42.900 just like the lost coin and the lost sheep and 0:24:42.900 --> 0:24:46.859 the lost son. In each of them it communicates how 0:24:46.859 --> 0:24:51.300 much God values the lost, how much he cares about 0:24:51.300 --> 0:24:53.940 the lost, and how much he wants them to be, 0:24:53.980 --> 0:24:57.619 to be, to come home to him. And it also 0:24:57.619 --> 0:25:02.740 deals with the son, the older son who represents religious hypocrisy, 0:25:02.780 --> 0:25:06.180 people who don't care about the lost the way God does, 0:25:06.180 --> 0:25:09.820 but they just care about themselves and want to be 0:25:09.859 --> 0:25:14.300 kind of righteously legalistic, you know. And so it's not 0:25:14.300 --> 0:25:18.780 really explaining how people are saved. And yet I can 0:25:18.780 --> 0:25:23.379 say this the Bible teaches, Jesus said all that the 0:25:23.380 --> 0:25:27.570 father has given me will come to me. Uh, it 0:25:27.570 --> 0:25:31.010 says in Luke, in acts 13, all who were appointed 0:25:31.010 --> 0:25:37.169 for eternal life believed. So the Bible teaches both that 0:25:37.170 --> 0:25:43.129 God appoints God draws people, and then also people must believe. 0:25:43.170 --> 0:25:45.130 And so what you see are both those things right 0:25:45.130 --> 0:25:48.530 there in those parables. Okay. We're going to be right 0:25:48.530 --> 0:25:51.050 back with more of your questions on this all mailbag 0:25:51.090 --> 0:25:59.889 day of open line. Stay right there. Ever been reading 0:25:59.890 --> 0:26:03.050 your Bible and come across an unfamiliar name, place, or 0:26:03.050 --> 0:26:06.290 object that left you confused? Well, you're not alone. 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Uh, let's continue with 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.359 these questions. Let's try and answer as many as we can. 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.120 All right. I have another parable question from Luke 16. 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.560 But before I get to that one, uh, a follow 0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.480 up to the previous question on Luke 15. Yeah. Um, 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.800 from Autumn, she was asking about the three lost, the 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.520 lost sheep, the lost coin, and the lost son parables 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.600 that Jesus told us earlier in the program. You had 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:23.220 said parables need to be read because they're standalone stories. 0:27:23.220 --> 0:27:26.380 And so how how are how does that statement apply 0:27:26.380 --> 0:27:29.100 to Luke 15 with these three parables that you kind 0:27:29.100 --> 0:27:30.140 of tied together? 0:27:30.180 --> 0:27:33.500 Well, the reason I tied those together is that they 0:27:33.500 --> 0:27:36.180 all come together. It says all in Luke 15, all 0:27:36.220 --> 0:27:40.420 the tax collectors and sinners were approaching to listen to 0:27:40.420 --> 0:27:44.179 him and the religious leadership. The Pharisees and the scribes 0:27:44.180 --> 0:27:48.179 were complaining, this man welcomes sinners and eats with them. 0:27:48.580 --> 0:27:52.379 So he told them this parable. He tells the story 0:27:52.380 --> 0:27:55.220 of the the lost sheep. And then he says, or 0:27:55.500 --> 0:28:03.139 what woman? And so he's continuing to address the same issue, uh, with, 0:28:03.380 --> 0:28:08.619 with those religious leadership, uh, by talking about the lost coin. 0:28:08.619 --> 0:28:11.619 And then in verse 11, he says, he also said, 0:28:11.780 --> 0:28:16.340 indicating he's still addressing the very same issue. So although 0:28:16.380 --> 0:28:21.440 these are three different parables, they're all addressing the same 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:26.440 issue and they were told one after another, three stories 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:30.760 in a row to address the issue that was raised 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.440 about how can how can he care about these sinners? 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:38.400 So it's a time when our, our little, um, chapter, uh, 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.360 our little, uh, division things within to tell you what 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:42.240 the story is. 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.240 Our conjunctions help. Yes. Yeah. 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:48.520 Okay. All right. So Luke 16, it does say. He 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.040 also said. But this is to the disciples now instead 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.520 of to the leaders. Okay. Yeah. All right. So Alison 0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:57.680 in Illinois listens to WNBA and said in Luke 1609 0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.360 talking about this is now the parable of the dishonest manager. 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:02.360 Mhm. 0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.880 Um, it says, I tell you, make friends for yourselves 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.479 by means of the unrighteous money, so that when it 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.400 fails they may welcome you into eternal dwellings. 0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.280 Oh, you know what? I just want to say something. 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.160 You just nailed something exactly right in verse six and 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.670 16 when it says it's like a shift. He also 0:29:20.670 --> 0:29:25.550 said to his disciples, and now I think he's addressing 0:29:25.550 --> 0:29:31.470 the same issue of God's concern for the lost. But 0:29:31.470 --> 0:29:36.150 now it's not to the religious leadership. Now it's what 0:29:36.150 --> 0:29:38.150 should you do about it, you disciples? 0:29:38.190 --> 0:29:41.230 Yeah. These are people closer to him. His audience has shifted. 0:29:41.270 --> 0:29:44.870 Yeah. And he's going to tell this other parable. Go ahead. Okay. Question. 0:29:44.910 --> 0:29:48.030 So Alison wants to know, can friends in that verse 0:29:48.030 --> 0:29:51.830 that I read be interpreted souls for Christ? And if not, 0:29:51.830 --> 0:29:53.830 can you help me understand the meaning of this? 0:29:54.070 --> 0:29:57.910 Yeah. Uh, in 1609, it says, make friends for yourselves 0:29:57.910 --> 0:30:00.310 by means of unrighteous money. Now, this is about the 0:30:00.310 --> 0:30:05.310 unrighteous steward. And of course, Eva, uh, people want to say, 0:30:05.350 --> 0:30:08.510 is Jesus teaching unrighteousness? 0:30:08.710 --> 0:30:11.430 No, of course not. He's not saying be unrighteous like 0:30:11.430 --> 0:30:15.310 the steward was unrighteous. He's saying, use take that principle 0:30:15.310 --> 0:30:17.910 of wisdom, that he was wise in the ways of 0:30:17.910 --> 0:30:20.260 the world. You need to be wise in the ways 0:30:20.260 --> 0:30:21.020 of eternity. 0:30:21.060 --> 0:30:24.180 Yeah, that we can use. Just like he used money 0:30:24.180 --> 0:30:26.540 to set himself up when he was getting in trouble, right? 0:30:26.580 --> 0:30:31.500 We can use filthy mammon, you know, filthy money, which 0:30:31.500 --> 0:30:33.780 we think is. Oh, that's always dirty. No, we can 0:30:33.780 --> 0:30:34.740 use it for the kingdom. 0:30:34.900 --> 0:30:35.740 Money is neutral. 0:30:35.780 --> 0:30:36.180 Yeah. 0:30:36.220 --> 0:30:37.219 It's the love of money. 0:30:37.220 --> 0:30:38.340 That's exactly. 0:30:38.380 --> 0:30:39.620 It's not money itself. 0:30:39.700 --> 0:30:42.060 And he says that just as he used money to 0:30:42.100 --> 0:30:46.900 set himself up, he's. Now he says that believers, his disciples, 0:30:46.900 --> 0:30:48.220 should also use money. 0:30:48.460 --> 0:30:48.900 Yeah. 0:30:49.060 --> 0:30:51.620 Uh, to advance the kingdom. And the way they do 0:30:51.620 --> 0:30:54.420 that is make friends for yourselves by means of the 0:30:54.460 --> 0:30:58.340 unrighteous money. So when it fails, they may welcome you 0:30:58.340 --> 0:31:01.780 into eternal dwellings. And I would just say that, uh, 0:31:01.820 --> 0:31:05.420 you know, even I we give to missionaries, you know, 0:31:05.420 --> 0:31:08.940 we're using our money for the kingdom. Yeah. And, uh, 0:31:08.940 --> 0:31:11.380 there's going to come a day when I go into 0:31:11.860 --> 0:31:15.020 the presence of the Lord when we enter the kingdom. Right? 0:31:15.540 --> 0:31:17.560 They're going to be friends. I've made that. I don't 0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:21.200 even know about that when I. There'll be people there saying, 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:25.640 you know, you gave money to Dave and Barbara or 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.600 to Pete and Carol, and they brought the gospel to 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.320 me in Irian Jaya or to. 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:33.320 South America. 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:37.200 In South America. And I came to the Lord through 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.480 their ministry. And you have made we have a friend 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.320 for eternity now, because I have in a sense, what 0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.360 I've been trying to do is make friends for yourselves, 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.000 for eternity, for myself, for ourselves, by giving to the 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:54.840 ministry and using money to advance the kingdom. And that's 0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.080 the principle there. Those are the friends, the people that 0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:58.880 will be one to the Lord through using the money 0:31:58.880 --> 0:31:59.680 for the kingdom. 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.520 So then it seems the answer would be yes. It 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.240 could be interpreted souls for Christ. Yeah. Okay. 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:10.600 And using whatever money you have to to advance the 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.000 work of God and it's, you know, it may not 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.460 be soul winning. It may be providing for the poor 0:32:16.820 --> 0:32:19.460 who maybe already know the Lord. But they're destitute because 0:32:19.460 --> 0:32:22.220 it says in Proverbs, he who gives to the poor 0:32:22.260 --> 0:32:25.980 lends to the Lord. So use your money, because where 0:32:25.980 --> 0:32:28.100 your treasure is, there will your heart be also. I 0:32:28.100 --> 0:32:30.580 think it's related to all of that kingdom principle of 0:32:30.980 --> 0:32:34.300 of using your your money, your money to advance whatever 0:32:34.300 --> 0:32:35.340 God is doing on earth. 0:32:35.540 --> 0:32:40.500 Okay. All right. Thank you. Um, Gerson in Florida listens 0:32:40.500 --> 0:32:45.980 to and wants to know about jealousy. Haha. Sort of. 0:32:46.340 --> 0:32:49.980 Galatians 520 and 21 talks about how jealousy is a sin. 0:32:50.300 --> 0:32:55.780 But in Exodus 3414 it says God is a jealous God. 0:32:55.980 --> 0:32:58.500 And actually you are never to bow down to another God, 0:32:58.540 --> 0:33:02.420 because Yahweh, being jealous by nature, is a jealous God. 0:33:03.060 --> 0:33:07.500 So someone asked Gerson if there's a contradiction in what's 0:33:07.500 --> 0:33:10.100 said in these two verses, and wasn't sure how to 0:33:10.100 --> 0:33:10.940 answer that. 0:33:11.620 --> 0:33:18.490 Uh, well, jealousy is one of those things that we 0:33:18.490 --> 0:33:24.370 can have righteous jealousy or unrighteous jealousy. 0:33:24.370 --> 0:33:25.690 So similar to anger. 0:33:25.730 --> 0:33:26.170 Yeah. 0:33:26.210 --> 0:33:26.690 Okay. 0:33:27.090 --> 0:33:32.450 And so in a in a sense, we can say 0:33:32.450 --> 0:33:36.969 that God is a jealous God. That's righteous jealousy if 0:33:37.210 --> 0:33:45.130 we will ever go to idols. Right? That's that's righteous jealousy. Now, 0:33:45.650 --> 0:33:50.450 if what is unrighteous jealousy? I'll give you an example. Uh, 0:33:50.450 --> 0:33:52.570 since I have the most faithful wife that ever has 0:33:52.570 --> 0:33:55.770 lived on the earth. If my wife were not flirtatious 0:33:55.810 --> 0:33:59.410 and she were not in any way, uh, and she 0:33:59.410 --> 0:34:03.810 wasn't doing anything like that, and I still she happened 0:34:03.810 --> 0:34:06.930 to be talking to some man. Uh, and I see it, 0:34:06.930 --> 0:34:11.690 and I become jealous, even though there's no cause that's 0:34:11.690 --> 0:34:15.359 unrighteous jealousy. And we all have heard about people who 0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.560 have unrighteous jealousy. 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:22.160 Now there are suspicious in their cruel because they think 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.080 that their spouse is cheating on them when their spouse isn't. 0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:25.440 Yeah. 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.880 Or or or even thinking of cheating on them. For example. 0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:33.480 The, uh, you know, the the student that sees me, uh, 0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:37.600 having lunch with a student at Moody and says, I 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.919 wanted to have lunch with him. Why isn't he having 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.359 lunch with me? Well, I never asked, you know what 0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.480 I mean? And so as a result, they become jealous. Oh, 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:51.840 he plays favorites. And, uh, the end result is that 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:56.319 they they they actually can make trouble. And that's unrighteous jealousy. 0:34:56.480 --> 0:35:02.960 So the God's righteousness is seen in his jealousy. You know, 0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.759 just like a man ought to be jealous of his wife. 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:11.160 Were flirtatious. Right. On the other hand, God's not like that. 0:35:11.940 --> 0:35:15.500 But we can be unrighteously jealous. 0:35:15.780 --> 0:35:15.980 And. 0:35:16.260 --> 0:35:19.660 By projecting these kinds of false thoughts. 0:35:19.700 --> 0:35:22.700 Right. And in the in the passage he points out 0:35:22.700 --> 0:35:24.700 in Galatians five, it really is a whole bunch of 0:35:24.700 --> 0:35:28.259 things that are that are bad immorality and impurity and 0:35:28.260 --> 0:35:32.940 sensuality and, um, all of these things all together. And 0:35:32.940 --> 0:35:36.740 so these are bad things. But yeah, but God's concern. 0:35:36.820 --> 0:35:39.779 But it even has outbursts of anger. And yet in Ephesians, 0:35:39.780 --> 0:35:43.219 the very next book, it says, uh, be angry, yet 0:35:43.219 --> 0:35:46.700 do not sin. So what does it say? Anger isn't wrong. 0:35:46.940 --> 0:35:49.140 It's the outburst of anger. 0:35:49.140 --> 0:35:53.540 But can we, as sinful humans, are we able to 0:35:53.540 --> 0:35:55.300 have righteous jealousy? 0:35:55.340 --> 0:35:56.340 Yeah. Yeah, sure. 0:35:56.380 --> 0:35:58.899 Okay. Like how? I mean, like I think about, yes, 0:35:58.900 --> 0:36:02.460 we could have righteous anger, but it's really hard, I think, 0:36:02.460 --> 0:36:07.260 to even know what that looks like on a sinful human, 0:36:07.260 --> 0:36:09.900 because it seems like it's such a fine line between 0:36:09.900 --> 0:36:14.399 what takes you over into, um, the unrighteous anger or 0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:18.839 the unrighteous jealousy. Like, so often, it's it's from a sinful, uh, 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.239 place that that is kind of springing forth. And so 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.239 how do you how can you tell if it's a 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:25.760 righteous or unrighteous jealousy? 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:30.520 Okay, so I, I know of a woman that established 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.719 a friendship with a man that was not her husband. 0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.799 They did not have an immoral relationship. But this woman 0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:43.719 had become really best friends with another man. And her 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:49.040 husband had a righteous jealousy, and he didn't get angry 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:52.560 and explode. But he sat down and said, listen, this 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:57.080 ought not to be. I'm the primary male relationship. You 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.040 ought to have. Not saying you can't be friends, but 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:05.640 this person has displaced me. And she was penitent and restored. 0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:10.510 But you see, that would be your righteous H's jealousy. Uh, 0:37:10.790 --> 0:37:15.469 when when that woman was involved with a person that 0:37:15.469 --> 0:37:18.350 she ought not to have as her primary relationship. 0:37:18.390 --> 0:37:18.629 Okay. 0:37:18.670 --> 0:37:24.110 A classic story of unrighteous jealousy is Othello by Shakespeare. 0:37:24.150 --> 0:37:24.510 Yeah. 0:37:24.910 --> 0:37:28.109 He was so jealous of his wife, and he was 0:37:28.110 --> 0:37:31.430 prodded on by this wicked man. Iago. 0:37:31.469 --> 0:37:32.310 Iago? Yeah. 0:37:32.350 --> 0:37:35.189 And it is a story of disaster. His wife was 0:37:35.190 --> 0:37:42.070 totally faithful to him, but his unrighteous jealousy led to tragedy. 0:37:42.070 --> 0:37:44.350 And it's one of the great tragedies of literature. And 0:37:44.350 --> 0:37:45.790 it's a great example of this. 0:37:45.830 --> 0:37:46.550 Of unrighteous. 0:37:46.750 --> 0:37:47.750 Unrighteous jealousy. 0:37:47.790 --> 0:37:49.550 Okay. 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As we cleared the spindle for 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.600 this Memorial Day weekend and all mailbag all the Time program. 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.719 I'm so thankful that you've joined me today. And, uh, 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.799 Tricia McMillan, my name is Michael Melnick. We're doing our 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:25.720 best to answer the questions you've mailed in. And so, Tricia, 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.880 let's see what else we can cover. 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:31.520 All right. Linda in Tennessee listens to WNBA. Says recently, 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.719 I discovered that the word homosexual was not in the 0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:38.320 Bible until the 1950s. Can you please explain the Greek 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:44.520 word Arsa arsenokoitai? Yes. That word and how you see 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:45.719 the translation. 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.800 Uh, and, you know, she did a little second question there. 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:58.120 Is this translated more toward molestation than homosexuality? Uh, which 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.560 is what it is contended. 0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:01.040 Okay. 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.899 Okay. Uh, this is, uh, let me just say, first 0:40:04.900 --> 0:40:10.140 of all, I think that that believers have sometimes made 0:40:10.140 --> 0:40:17.379 homosexuality the single worst sin. And God, you know, there's 0:40:17.380 --> 0:40:21.500 a lot of sins out there. And I'm not saying 0:40:21.500 --> 0:40:26.060 homosexuality isn't a sin. I believe that God never intended 0:40:26.340 --> 0:40:31.220 sexual relations between to be with same sex relationships. It's, um, 0:40:31.420 --> 0:40:35.580 but God didn't intend sexual relationships outside of marriage, even 0:40:35.580 --> 0:40:39.180 heterosexual relationships outside of marriage. And there are many things 0:40:39.500 --> 0:40:43.339 that are an abomination to the Lord. In fact, slander 0:40:43.500 --> 0:40:47.859 is an abomination. So let's put this in perspective. I 0:40:47.860 --> 0:40:50.860 think God loves all people. For God so loved the world. 0:40:50.860 --> 0:40:54.860 We need to love our homosexual friends. Uh, we need 0:40:54.860 --> 0:40:58.900 to do our best to win them to the Lord. Uh, I, 0:40:59.260 --> 0:41:02.460 I just I want to really clarify how much we 0:41:02.460 --> 0:41:07.169 have to care about those people who have same sex 0:41:07.170 --> 0:41:11.810 attraction and same sex relationships. All that said, though, the 0:41:11.810 --> 0:41:18.410 current advocacy for same sex relationships is saying this very 0:41:18.450 --> 0:41:20.890 thing that the word homosexual was not used in any 0:41:20.890 --> 0:41:25.730 Bible translation until 1946. And the answer to that is 0:41:25.730 --> 0:41:29.650 the word homosexual did not exist until about 1891 or 2. 0:41:30.210 --> 0:41:34.489 It was coined at that time. So the behavior of 0:41:34.489 --> 0:41:42.010 same sex relationship is spoken of in the Bible. Uh, but, uh, 0:41:42.610 --> 0:41:49.090 the that behavior, uh, was not called homosexuality. It's described. 0:41:49.250 --> 0:41:52.010 It is not using that word because the word didn't 0:41:52.010 --> 0:41:55.690 exist when the Bible was translated, for example, into the 0:41:55.690 --> 0:41:59.570 King James Bible. It's only modern translations that use that. 0:41:59.570 --> 0:42:02.919 And for example, in First Corinthians six. It uses this 0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.640 word arsenokoitai. It is taken right out of the book 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:09.799 of Leviticus, which was translated into Greek in Leviticus as 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:15.160 describes same sex relationships and calls it a sinful. And 0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:20.360 then the Septuagint translates it and uses the word male 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.440 sexual relations. And that generally is the word that's used 0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:30.680 for the, uh, the, the male who is active in 0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:37.640 sexual relations. And then in first Corinthians six, there's another word, malakoi, uh, which, uh, 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.040 in Eve is Bible. She. We were talking about this 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:43.240 word recently. It's the word translated in the New American 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:47.279 Standard as effeminate. Right. Yeah. And, uh, but I don't 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:48.920 think it means effeminate. When I looked it up in 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.799 the Greek lexicon, it was the passive recipient of a 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:56.480 male sexual relationship. The male receiving it has nothing to 0:42:56.480 --> 0:43:01.260 do with molestation. It doesn't have to do with pagan, uh, actions. 0:43:01.420 --> 0:43:07.020 What it's referring to are same sex relationships. And, uh, 0:43:07.020 --> 0:43:10.259 that's what Paul says ought not to be, as well 0:43:10.260 --> 0:43:13.140 as other issues. I mean, the very same passage he 0:43:13.140 --> 0:43:18.899 deals with stealing. Robbing. So, uh, I believe that he 0:43:18.900 --> 0:43:23.700 says that in first Corinthians six, uh, where he he 0:43:23.739 --> 0:43:28.819 says these things, uh, he says, don't be deceived. No 0:43:28.820 --> 0:43:36.779 sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers. And then he uses that word, uh, 0:43:36.780 --> 0:43:42.380 malakoi and arsenokoitai, uh, sexual homosexual relationships. 0:43:42.380 --> 0:43:43.820 People seem to be okay with that. 0:43:43.860 --> 0:43:50.420 Yeah. And no thieves, no greedy people, drunkards, verbally abusive 0:43:50.420 --> 0:43:53.420 people or swindlers will inherit the God's kingdom. And so 0:43:53.420 --> 0:43:58.600 what happens is people want to make homosexuality something Thing 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.640 worse than all these other things. These are all things 0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:06.280 that will separate us from God and and we we need. 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.920 But it says and such were some of you used 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:11.240 to be like this? We can be redeemed from that. 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:16.040 So the Lord Jesus died for all our sins, including 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:18.480 same sex relationship sins. 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:19.760 And rose again. 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.040 And then he rose again. He died for the sins, 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:25.600 rose again, proving he's God. And he can redeem us 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:26.800 if we'll trust in him. 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:30.000 Yeah, I like the end of the verse where you said, um, 0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.200 you used to be like this, but you were washed, 0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.920 you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of 0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.840 the Lord Jesus Christ and by the spirit of our God. 0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:39.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.239 So we don't have to say, oh, that's that's what 0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.920 we are. And there's no hope. There's great hope. 0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:45.759 Yeah. 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.480 Yeah. Thank you. Uh, next question is from Joanne in Florida. 0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.279 She says we usually say amen at the end of prayer. 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.080 Does that mean so be it? Or is it giving 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:56.640 reference to the sun god? 0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.870 Uh, well, first of all, it's not giving reference to 0:44:59.870 --> 0:45:02.710 the sun god. Amenhotep has nothing to do with the 0:45:02.710 --> 0:45:05.670 word Amen. This is, you know, the internet's a wealth 0:45:05.670 --> 0:45:09.509 of bad information. And the word amen is, is we 0:45:09.510 --> 0:45:11.790 see it in Greek, but it actually comes from the Hebrew, 0:45:11.790 --> 0:45:14.149 from the same word. It's just a transliteration that came 0:45:14.150 --> 0:45:16.710 into Greek. And it means and it does mean truth 0:45:17.070 --> 0:45:20.870 or it is true, it and it is used in firm. 0:45:20.870 --> 0:45:22.189 It actually literally means firm. 0:45:22.230 --> 0:45:26.030 Firm. Yeah, it is firm. And uh, and it's interesting 0:45:26.030 --> 0:45:29.590 that where Jesus is called the Amen in revelation 314, 0:45:29.630 --> 0:45:32.670 it is really a reference, I think back to Isaiah 0:45:32.710 --> 0:45:35.950 6516 where he talks about how God is truth. It's 0:45:35.950 --> 0:45:38.470 the same thing. He is called the Amen and the word. 0:45:38.469 --> 0:45:40.910 We read the New Testament and Jesus is teaching and 0:45:40.910 --> 0:45:43.390 he says, verily, verily, I say to you, it actually 0:45:43.510 --> 0:45:45.910 is Amen, Amen, I say to you. He used it 0:45:45.910 --> 0:45:49.989 at the beginning of so many statements, where as we 0:45:50.150 --> 0:45:53.830 have come into the to the practice of when someone 0:45:53.830 --> 0:45:57.060 is praying, we say Amen. Meaning yes, we agree. May 0:45:57.060 --> 0:45:58.300 it be so. May it be so. 0:45:58.340 --> 0:46:02.339 Yeah. Well, can you believe it? That's the program for 0:46:02.340 --> 0:46:06.220 this week. Thanks for listening, everyone. Especially those of you 0:46:06.260 --> 0:46:10.580 who sent in these really terrific questions. I really appreciate that. Uh, 0:46:10.780 --> 0:46:14.339 as always, I'm grateful to Tricia McMillan for putting this 0:46:14.340 --> 0:46:17.779 mailbag together and joining me and for for helping me 0:46:17.780 --> 0:46:22.060 answer these questions today and also Courtney. Courtney Young, our engineer, 0:46:22.100 --> 0:46:24.779 did a great job making this all flow together. Thank 0:46:24.780 --> 0:46:27.500 you so much for that. Uh, remember you can check 0:46:27.500 --> 0:46:30.219 out our web page, Open Line radio.org. It's got all 0:46:30.219 --> 0:46:32.380 sorts of great links. You can see our current Bible 0:46:32.380 --> 0:46:35.180 study resource, how to become a Kitchen table Partner. You 0:46:35.180 --> 0:46:38.339 can see my own website. Keep reading the Bible. 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