1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,920 S1: What voice on Moody radio made a difference in your life? 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,200 S1: Was there someone who said something or sang something that 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,319 S1: changed the direction of your life? This month we are 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,160 S1: celebrating 100 years of Moody Radio, and today I have 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,480 S1: four guests whose voices you may remember for voices who 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,240 S1: made a difference. And we're going to pause and remember 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,720 S1: with them today on this celebratory edition of Chris Fabry Live. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,800 S1: The program From the Heart to the heart for the heart, online@chris.org, 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,279 S1: where you can support us this month and receive a 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,519 S1: fantastic thank you. The new book that released yesterday, this 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,479 S1: is Moody Radio, Phil Shepard, Kevin put this together. They 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,040 S1: were with us a week ago. And all this month 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,640 S1: we were sending that book to you. It's filled with 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,440 S1: pictures and history, and that details God's faithfulness for a 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,880 S1: century to and through Moody Radio. Call or click through today. 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,330 S1: Don't you miss this one, folks. Support us at Chris 17 00:01:01,370 --> 00:01:05,730 S1: Fabry live.org or call 86695. Fabry. If you are a 18 00:01:05,770 --> 00:01:09,610 S1: longtime listener, it is a must. And if you've recently 19 00:01:09,610 --> 00:01:11,810 S1: joined us, you're going to be encouraged by the stories 20 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:15,170 S1: of the pioneers of Christian radio from 100 years ago, 21 00:01:15,490 --> 00:01:20,770 S1: as well as those who sit behind the mics today eight, six, six, nine, five, three, two, two, 22 00:01:20,810 --> 00:01:25,490 S1: seven nine or go to Chris Fabry live.org. Do that 23 00:01:25,490 --> 00:01:29,729 S1: today as we celebrate 100 years with four friends before 24 00:01:29,730 --> 00:01:32,250 S1: we meet our first guest, let me thank our team 25 00:01:32,410 --> 00:01:35,209 S1: helping us behind the scenes. Ron McConaughey doing all things technical. 26 00:01:35,209 --> 00:01:38,530 S1: Tricia's our producer, Lisa is helping out. Josh will be 27 00:01:38,530 --> 00:01:41,370 S1: answering your calls today. And I told Joe Carlson was 28 00:01:41,370 --> 00:01:43,250 S1: with us Monday. And I said, I think the reason 29 00:01:43,250 --> 00:01:45,250 S1: why I do that, to do it for two reasons. 30 00:01:45,250 --> 00:01:48,210 S1: I mentioned the people behind the scenes. Number one, because 31 00:01:48,210 --> 00:01:50,210 S1: if I don't do it at the beginning, I'll forget 32 00:01:50,210 --> 00:01:53,770 S1: it by the end. And number two, Don Cole always 33 00:01:53,770 --> 00:01:57,650 S1: used to do that. He would he would mention who's producing, 34 00:01:57,650 --> 00:02:01,500 S1: who's answering the phones, who's doing the working on the board. 35 00:02:01,660 --> 00:02:03,860 S1: And so I got that from Don Cole. And I 36 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:08,100 S1: keep it going here. And my first guest, new Don Cole. 37 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:10,859 S1: Very well. He has a voice you have heard and 38 00:02:10,860 --> 00:02:13,700 S1: you still hear on Moody Radio. He came to Chicago 39 00:02:14,060 --> 00:02:17,740 S1: like 52 years ago. He helped pioneer the creation of 40 00:02:17,740 --> 00:02:22,020 S1: satellite fed programming. He was broadcast program manager, co-host of 41 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:24,940 S1: the award winning Midday Connection. He hosted Open Line. He 42 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:28,700 S1: hosts Bold Steps. First person. It might be easier to 43 00:02:28,740 --> 00:02:31,940 S1: list the programs that he doesn't host. His name is 44 00:02:31,980 --> 00:02:34,940 S1: Wayne Shepherd. I'm working on it. Working on Are you? 45 00:02:35,180 --> 00:02:37,540 S2: I'm doing fine. You left off that I hired you 46 00:02:37,540 --> 00:02:38,620 S2: as open line host. 47 00:02:38,660 --> 00:02:41,980 S1: Well, now that's true. You allowed me to to host 48 00:02:41,980 --> 00:02:46,380 S1: Open Line. I allowed you, you allowed me. Because, uh, remember, 49 00:02:46,380 --> 00:02:51,459 S1: Bob left. Bob Stephenson was going to host Open Line 50 00:02:51,500 --> 00:02:54,540 S1: and he left. Yeah. And so there was this, you know, 51 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:55,940 S1: empty space. And I said. 52 00:02:55,980 --> 00:02:57,190 S3: Okay, I know that. 53 00:02:58,030 --> 00:03:01,150 S1: And you graciously allowed me to do that. 54 00:03:01,190 --> 00:03:04,430 S2: You were a lowly spot writer. I was actually very 55 00:03:04,430 --> 00:03:05,550 S2: creative spot writer. 56 00:03:05,750 --> 00:03:08,790 S1: And take me back to 74. Before we get to 57 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:11,910 S1: ten years later, what was what was Moody Radio like 58 00:03:11,910 --> 00:03:12,989 S1: in 1974? 59 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:15,710 S2: Well, I was hired as a station break announcer. I 60 00:03:15,710 --> 00:03:18,190 S2: was hired by Bob Neff, but before I showed up 61 00:03:18,190 --> 00:03:21,390 S2: for my first shift, Jim Wick had become station manager. 62 00:03:21,389 --> 00:03:25,389 S2: So I worked for Jim and driving into Chicago to 63 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:28,910 S2: take the job, I heard these announcers give these sermonettes 64 00:03:28,950 --> 00:03:30,750 S2: on the radio, and I was getting all puffed up 65 00:03:30,750 --> 00:03:32,470 S2: that they wanted me to do that kind of thing. 66 00:03:32,870 --> 00:03:34,750 S2: And then I realized they wanted me to give the 67 00:03:34,750 --> 00:03:36,670 S2: station time and temp. And that was that was my 68 00:03:36,670 --> 00:03:40,110 S2: job for the first couple of years. So that was 74. 69 00:03:40,230 --> 00:03:42,710 S1: Did it well, though. Well. And you you were at 70 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:43,910 S1: Cedarville before? 71 00:03:43,950 --> 00:03:46,430 S2: Yeah. I went to Cedarville University where I met Becky 72 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:49,070 S2: and we married in 73. And then I applied to 73 00:03:49,510 --> 00:03:52,510 S2: surf in Cleveland, and they sent the application to the 74 00:03:52,510 --> 00:03:54,910 S2: central office in Chicago. And the opening was here at 75 00:03:54,910 --> 00:03:58,040 S2: CRWMBI so I went from the smallest market in the country, 76 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,640 S2: probably to one of the largest working. And it was 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,720 S2: it was a pretty frightening experience to move to Chicago from, 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,040 S2: from where we lived, you know. 79 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,960 S1: So whose voice do you remember whose voice made an 80 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,800 S1: impact on you from Moody Radio back then? 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,240 S2: Ted Seeley because Ted was a syndicated announcer, freelance announcer. 82 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,880 S2: And even though I was in Ohio, I was working 83 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,120 S2: on programs hosted by Ted programs like chapel of the 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,280 S2: air and Grace to you with not grace to you. 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,440 S2: What is it? The grace hour, the grace worship hour 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,960 S2: with Bruce Dunn. So and I knew Ted sort of 87 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,719 S2: not well, but because we come from the same hometown 88 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,840 S2: in Michigan. And so I'd heard about Ted my whole life. 89 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,240 S2: So he has he has one of those voices that 90 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,000 S2: I remember. 91 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,880 S1: I got to produce for Ted on Open Line. I 92 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,320 S1: was a producer for, for a while. And the thing 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,880 S1: I would always say about Ted is if the guest 94 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,440 S1: doesn't show up, we're okay, because dad knows as much, 95 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,080 S1: if not more. 96 00:04:54,330 --> 00:04:57,130 S2: That's true. That's true. The same thing was true of 97 00:04:57,130 --> 00:05:00,210 S2: Jim Warren. Yes. You know, Jim was a great interviewer, 98 00:05:00,210 --> 00:05:02,810 S2: but very often he carried the interview because he knew 99 00:05:02,810 --> 00:05:04,970 S2: more than the guests did about the topic. You know, 100 00:05:05,010 --> 00:05:07,810 S2: it was it was amazing. And I often think of that. 101 00:05:07,810 --> 00:05:09,690 S2: And you did a great job as a as a 102 00:05:09,690 --> 00:05:12,130 S2: host like that interviewing two Chris, let's not forget your 103 00:05:12,130 --> 00:05:12,610 S2: service here. 104 00:05:12,650 --> 00:05:14,849 S1: We tried, we tried. Yeah. Okay. I want to take 105 00:05:14,850 --> 00:05:18,930 S1: you back to 1997. See if you remember this. 106 00:05:19,850 --> 00:05:22,409 S2: Doctor Graham, as we begin, I'm reminded that these radio 107 00:05:22,410 --> 00:05:25,770 S2: studios that were in today play a part in the 108 00:05:25,770 --> 00:05:28,490 S2: story of your ministry, because it was these studios that 109 00:05:28,490 --> 00:05:31,250 S2: you came to after you heard a young man sing 110 00:05:31,290 --> 00:05:32,090 S2: on the radio. 111 00:05:32,650 --> 00:05:38,170 S4: That's right. Uh, my wife and I lived in Hinsdale, 112 00:05:38,730 --> 00:05:42,250 S4: had a little church underground in, uh. 113 00:05:42,250 --> 00:05:43,290 S2: Literally underground. 114 00:05:43,370 --> 00:05:52,130 S4: Literally underground and Western Springs and, uh, through Moody Station, 115 00:05:52,410 --> 00:05:55,050 S4: Believe me. We got to know a man by the 116 00:05:55,050 --> 00:05:58,890 S4: name of George Beverly Shea. We listened to him sing 117 00:05:58,890 --> 00:06:04,650 S4: many times. And when Tory Johnson offered me a radio 118 00:06:04,650 --> 00:06:08,330 S4: program called songs in the night, my little board of 119 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:12,450 S4: deacons was strongly opposed to it. But somehow we were 120 00:06:12,450 --> 00:06:17,890 S4: able to overcome the objections. And then we thought about 121 00:06:17,890 --> 00:06:22,210 S4: the program. And I knew of one man that I 122 00:06:22,210 --> 00:06:24,250 S4: heard on the radio and wondered if we could ever. 123 00:06:24,290 --> 00:06:26,170 S4: I didn't think we could ever get him, but I 124 00:06:26,170 --> 00:06:29,089 S4: was going to attempt it anyway. So I came in 125 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:31,170 S4: and took in those days nearly an hour to get 126 00:06:31,170 --> 00:06:36,170 S4: from there. You came up Ogden Avenue into Chicago, and 127 00:06:36,210 --> 00:06:41,089 S4: I came in and he was in these studios conferring 128 00:06:41,089 --> 00:06:44,690 S4: with or I've forgotten exactly what he was doing, but 129 00:06:44,690 --> 00:06:46,529 S4: I knew that there were 2 or 3 people sitting 130 00:06:46,529 --> 00:06:49,050 S4: out here, and I always tease him. I had to 131 00:06:49,050 --> 00:06:51,169 S4: get through all of his secretaries to get to him, 132 00:06:51,779 --> 00:06:57,260 S4: and he always groans over that. But, uh, I got 133 00:06:57,260 --> 00:07:00,940 S4: in here somehow and shook his hand and introduced myself 134 00:07:00,940 --> 00:07:04,220 S4: and told him what I would like. And he's always 135 00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:08,659 S4: reluctant to say no. You know you can. Bev is 136 00:07:08,660 --> 00:07:12,740 S4: such a quiet and gentle soul. He is. And when 137 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:14,700 S4: I told him what I thought he could do for 138 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:18,860 S4: the program and for our little community, he finally said, 139 00:07:18,860 --> 00:07:21,220 S4: all right, I'll come next Sunday night. So he and 140 00:07:21,220 --> 00:07:26,380 S4: his wife came, and they came every Sunday night after that. 141 00:07:26,860 --> 00:07:30,900 S4: And then we became very close friends. And I told 142 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:33,420 S4: him when when the time came that I felt I 143 00:07:33,420 --> 00:07:36,860 S4: was going into other work and evangelism, I said, why 144 00:07:36,860 --> 00:07:40,059 S4: don't you come and go with me? And so he, 145 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:42,580 S4: he did. And he's been with me ever since. 146 00:07:42,580 --> 00:07:44,220 S2: And history was made, as they say. 147 00:07:44,980 --> 00:07:46,700 S1: You know what I take from that, Wayne? 148 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:48,020 S2: I didn't know you were going to play that. 149 00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:53,470 S1: You listened. You let him talk and you listen. 150 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:57,950 S2: It's Billy Graham. I mean, you know, it's a good point. 151 00:07:57,950 --> 00:08:01,430 S2: And for anybody who, you know, aspires to interviewing, I 152 00:08:01,590 --> 00:08:05,590 S2: learned that from people like you and Jim Warren and others, 153 00:08:05,630 --> 00:08:08,630 S2: you know, to listen to what the person is saying. Absolutely. 154 00:08:08,630 --> 00:08:10,390 S2: The back story was I had been working for a 155 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:12,070 S2: couple of years to get Doctor Graham to come to 156 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:13,950 S2: the studios to do an interview. And by the way, 157 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:17,510 S2: Bev Shea confirmed that story about down to every last 158 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:20,869 S2: minute detail. They both remembered it. But I'd been working 159 00:08:20,870 --> 00:08:22,470 S2: a couple of years to bring him to the studios, 160 00:08:22,470 --> 00:08:26,230 S2: and when he came to Chicago to do Oprah, Oprah TV, 161 00:08:26,910 --> 00:08:28,470 S2: they called me and said, we'll bring him over. And 162 00:08:28,470 --> 00:08:31,430 S2: I said, fine, doctor Joe Stoll, does a radio program 163 00:08:31,470 --> 00:08:34,429 S2: be great if Doctor Stoll interviewed him? So we set 164 00:08:34,429 --> 00:08:35,790 S2: it all up and Joe called me the night before 165 00:08:35,790 --> 00:08:37,470 S2: and he said, my mother's in the hospital. I can't 166 00:08:37,470 --> 00:08:38,990 S2: be there. He said, you got to do the interview. 167 00:08:38,990 --> 00:08:41,550 S2: So fortunately, I had read his biography just, you know, 168 00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:44,790 S2: in the days before that. So I knew what to ask. 169 00:08:45,309 --> 00:08:48,589 S1: Is it true that you have Bev Shea's door? Phil 170 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,200 S1: Shepherd tells this apocryphal story of you having a dog. 171 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,520 S2: I wish you wouldn't go there. 172 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,080 S1: Is that true? 173 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,559 S2: No, it is partially true. 174 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:57,920 S1: Okay. 175 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:58,920 S2: It's not fully true. 176 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,200 S1: It's not Janet. Partial. 177 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,199 S2: It's forever radio lore in the book now. But the 178 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,560 S2: truth is, I was gifted a small piece of glass 179 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,640 S2: from the door where Bev signed the glass on the door. 180 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,800 S2: I did not take the whole door. No. 181 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,600 S1: But you didn't cut the glass out. 182 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,320 S2: Uh, someone did it for me. It was a gift. 183 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,800 S2: It was a gift from the institute when I left. 184 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:24,360 S1: Yeah. Isn't that great? Um, and there were things that happened. 185 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,360 S1: I want to go to the next clip of Wayne Ryan. 186 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,079 S1: This happened 25 years ago this September. 187 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,080 S2: Well, live from Chicago. This is Moody Broadcasting's special coverage 188 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,840 S2: of an incredible day in America. America seems to be 189 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,720 S2: under a terrorist attack on several fronts. I'm Wayne Shepherd 190 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,200 S2: in Chicago. We'll be getting a news update in just 191 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,210 S2: a moment. Joining me here is Doctor Jo Stoll the 192 00:09:49,210 --> 00:09:50,170 S2: Moody Bible Institute. 193 00:09:50,250 --> 00:09:52,209 S5: Hi Wayne. What a horrid day. What a horrid day. 194 00:09:52,250 --> 00:09:56,090 S5: You know, historically America has always been spared of the 195 00:09:56,130 --> 00:09:59,930 S5: ravages of war and terrorism. First world war, second World war. 196 00:09:59,929 --> 00:10:02,090 S5: We've never known anything like this. And the scale is 197 00:10:02,090 --> 00:10:05,330 S5: so huge. I just heard that AP is now reporting 198 00:10:05,330 --> 00:10:07,970 S5: that a car bomb has gone off in the State Department. 199 00:10:07,970 --> 00:10:10,010 S2: We're going to get a report on that in just 200 00:10:10,010 --> 00:10:13,050 S2: a moment. There's a fire at the Pentagon. One of 201 00:10:13,050 --> 00:10:17,969 S2: the two World Trade Centers has collapsed now. Both were 202 00:10:17,970 --> 00:10:22,010 S2: hit earlier today by aircraft. Is that the second building, 203 00:10:22,370 --> 00:10:25,770 S2: second tower, is now going down in New York City. 204 00:10:25,770 --> 00:10:29,330 S2: The World Trade Center is no longer. Think of the 205 00:10:29,330 --> 00:10:33,170 S2: human devastation involved here. So stations, we're going to keep 206 00:10:33,170 --> 00:10:36,010 S2: it right here. We're going to switch to Washington DC 207 00:10:36,050 --> 00:10:39,610 S2: and SRN news for periodic updates. I'm joined by Doctor 208 00:10:39,610 --> 00:10:42,890 S2: Joe Stoll. Mark strand, A WMBI. Our flagship station in 209 00:10:42,890 --> 00:10:45,929 S2: Chicago will be joining us. We'll be joined by Kerby Anderson, 210 00:10:46,020 --> 00:10:49,100 S2: who has studied the issue of terrorism quite a bit 211 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:51,900 S2: from a biblical perspective. We'll talk to Kirby here coming 212 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:53,540 S2: up in the next few minutes as well. So our 213 00:10:53,540 --> 00:10:55,980 S2: commitment to our stations and to our listeners, Doctor Stoll, 214 00:10:56,140 --> 00:10:58,100 S2: is to provide as much coverage of this as we 215 00:10:58,100 --> 00:10:59,180 S2: can throughout the day. 216 00:10:59,380 --> 00:11:03,380 S1: And hearing your voice, your calm voice in the middle 217 00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:07,620 S1: of that. And Doctor Stolz, too, that that was what 218 00:11:07,620 --> 00:11:11,860 S1: Moody Radio has been through the years and cataclysmic moments 219 00:11:11,860 --> 00:11:14,820 S1: like that, as well as cataclysmic personal moments when people 220 00:11:14,820 --> 00:11:15,980 S1: tune in. Right. Well, as. 221 00:11:15,980 --> 00:11:18,860 S2: Terrible as that day was, it was a memory locked 222 00:11:18,860 --> 00:11:21,699 S2: in my mind. Um, none of us were prepared for 223 00:11:21,740 --> 00:11:24,420 S2: that day. It was just a normal day. I was 224 00:11:24,420 --> 00:11:26,100 S2: in my office and I was called out to look 225 00:11:26,100 --> 00:11:28,459 S2: at the television screen, to what was happening. And then 226 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:29,940 S2: someone called me and said, you need to go to 227 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:32,220 S2: the studio. And we did have the satellite network at 228 00:11:32,260 --> 00:11:35,660 S2: that time. So all the stations were connected and we 229 00:11:35,660 --> 00:11:39,180 S2: flipped a few switches and we went live. And, you know, 230 00:11:39,220 --> 00:11:41,860 S2: I think we stuck on the air for hour upon 231 00:11:41,860 --> 00:11:44,740 S2: hour with guests talking about I remember one listener in, 232 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:47,670 S2: I think, in Chicago contacted us and said, I went 233 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:49,470 S2: to the news station to get the details, but I 234 00:11:49,470 --> 00:11:52,030 S2: came back to Moody because I needed to hear God's 235 00:11:52,030 --> 00:11:54,870 S2: perspective on what was going on. So I've always remembered 236 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:56,110 S2: that comment being made. 237 00:11:56,309 --> 00:11:58,750 S1: That's it. That's it right there. All right. So Wayne's 238 00:11:58,750 --> 00:12:01,270 S1: going to stay with me throughout the whole hour, and 239 00:12:01,270 --> 00:12:03,950 S1: I have three other voices I want you to hear 240 00:12:04,190 --> 00:12:07,150 S1: who have made a difference on Moody Radio. Maybe you 241 00:12:07,150 --> 00:12:11,069 S1: will recognize our next guest. You're going to hear her 242 00:12:11,150 --> 00:12:13,470 S1: coming up straight ahead. This is Chris Fabry live on 243 00:12:13,510 --> 00:12:16,150 S1: Moody Radio. And again, I'd love to send you a 244 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:19,190 S1: copy of this book that we're giving away all this month. 245 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:23,870 S1: This is Moody radio 100 years proclaiming the gospel. You 246 00:12:23,870 --> 00:12:25,790 S1: can find out how to get your copy. Give a 247 00:12:25,790 --> 00:12:29,510 S1: gift to the program right there at Chris Fabry live.org. 248 00:12:29,870 --> 00:12:34,590 S1: Chris Fabry live dot ORG. More straight ahead on Moody Radio. 249 00:12:43,230 --> 00:12:46,600 S1: We take you back to February 8th of 1973. This 250 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,439 S1: is the program our next guest hosted on Moody Radio. 251 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,600 S6: Hello, ladies. Ruth Dinwiddie is your hostess for the next 252 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:04,240 S6: 15 minutes on Sugar and Spice. And today Ruth talks 253 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,720 S6: with a special guest. 254 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,240 S7: Well, hello. This is Ruth Dinwiddie. And we're glad to 255 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,640 S7: have you listening today. And we have two very special 256 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,600 S7: guests actually instead of just one. Mr. and Mrs. John 257 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,560 S7: Peterson welcome to Sugar and Spice. 258 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,679 S8: Thank you Ruth. Glad to be with you. 259 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,720 S7: We'd sort of like to get to know you just 260 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,800 S7: as as people today and find out a little bit 261 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:39,559 S7: about your life. 262 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,600 S1: Ladies and gentlemen, I break in here to take you 263 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,010 S1: live to Florida, to the real, the one, the only 264 00:13:46,170 --> 00:13:49,690 S1: Ruth Dinwiddie. Ruth, what goes through your mind when you 265 00:13:49,690 --> 00:13:51,810 S1: hear that theme and you hear the Petersons? 266 00:13:52,210 --> 00:13:55,809 S9: Oh, the theme is so familiar. How many times over 267 00:13:55,809 --> 00:13:59,130 S9: those years did I play that? But it's great. And 268 00:13:59,809 --> 00:14:03,010 S9: so many interviews we did. It was fun. John Peterson 269 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:07,250 S9: and Mary Marie, they were just great. And I was 270 00:14:07,250 --> 00:14:09,650 S9: so privileged to be able to interview them. 271 00:14:10,490 --> 00:14:10,930 S1: You did? 272 00:14:11,010 --> 00:14:12,490 S2: Was that Dick Florence, your announcer? 273 00:14:12,530 --> 00:14:15,770 S1: Yes, that's what I was going to say. Dick Florence 274 00:14:16,610 --> 00:14:21,450 S1: because Dick was the the, um, the station manager in 275 00:14:21,570 --> 00:14:24,690 S1: Cleveland where you started, wasn't he? Ruth? 276 00:14:25,610 --> 00:14:28,290 S9: Um, and I hate to say this on the air, 277 00:14:28,290 --> 00:14:30,490 S9: but I'm having a little trouble hearing you. 278 00:14:30,530 --> 00:14:33,610 S1: Oh, okay. All right, well, we'll speak up. We'll speak up. 279 00:14:33,890 --> 00:14:36,450 S1: Take me back to the great. Take me back to 280 00:14:36,490 --> 00:14:40,490 S1: the days in Cleveland when you started sugar and spice. 281 00:14:41,500 --> 00:14:47,820 S9: Okay, I started Sugar and Spice in 1964. I think 282 00:14:48,180 --> 00:14:51,860 S9: it was because, uh, the station was brand new, almost 283 00:14:51,860 --> 00:14:55,220 S9: brand new year and a half old. And, uh, we 284 00:14:55,220 --> 00:14:57,980 S9: didn't go on the air in the mornings. They were 285 00:14:57,980 --> 00:15:01,020 S9: waiting for support to come in from the area. And 286 00:15:01,020 --> 00:15:05,100 S9: by 1964 it did. And they added the morning block. 287 00:15:05,460 --> 00:15:08,780 S9: And that's when we started Sugar and Spice. And, uh, 288 00:15:09,020 --> 00:15:12,300 S9: it was on daily, uh, during the week. I'd never 289 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:17,100 S9: done anything like this before, never dreamed I would. But, uh, it, uh, 290 00:15:17,980 --> 00:15:21,580 S9: it kind of hung on during the years and, and, uh, 291 00:15:21,580 --> 00:15:25,140 S9: aimed mostly at women. But I also heard from gentlemen listeners, 292 00:15:25,140 --> 00:15:26,820 S9: which was very nice. 293 00:15:28,460 --> 00:15:31,540 S2: Ruth, this is Wayne. I remember an interview you did 294 00:15:31,540 --> 00:15:33,860 S2: with Christopher Parkening. Do you recall that? 295 00:15:34,220 --> 00:15:40,390 S9: Oh, yeah, very much so. Guitarist Christopher Parkening. He was, uh, 296 00:15:40,630 --> 00:15:44,230 S9: he was amazing. And he had had a wonderful conversion 297 00:15:44,230 --> 00:15:48,710 S9: experience and, uh, testified about that a lot. And that 298 00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:53,190 S9: was another very well, they're all really special. But, but 299 00:15:53,190 --> 00:15:57,670 S9: Chris Parkening was, was really a treat. What a talented, 300 00:15:57,670 --> 00:16:02,190 S9: wonderful guy and just had such a wonderful experience with 301 00:16:02,190 --> 00:16:06,670 S9: the Lord and was testified to that through his, his 302 00:16:06,670 --> 00:16:14,030 S9: music and his, uh, concertizing and meetings that he had 303 00:16:14,030 --> 00:16:16,750 S9: with people. Yeah, I remember him well. 304 00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:21,630 S1: I remember talking with Warren Wiersbe and having Warren talk 305 00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:26,070 S1: about Ruth Dinwiddie. Uh, and also, I think you may 306 00:16:26,070 --> 00:16:30,390 S1: have had, uh, Doctor Alan Redpath on your program at 307 00:16:30,390 --> 00:16:32,390 S1: some point. He was the pastor. 308 00:16:32,430 --> 00:16:36,390 S9: Yes, I did. I did. Uh, boy, that goes back 309 00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:40,920 S9: a long way. Um, I think there were he did 310 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,200 S9: some programs for conference echoes also. There were at least 311 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,520 S9: four that we had the old tapes of those for 312 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,480 S9: a while, but, uh, I did interview him way back. 313 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,720 S9: He was the pastor of the Moody Church at the time. 314 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,480 S1: Yes. Okay. So whose voice spoke into your life from 315 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,040 S1: Moody Radio? Who comes to mind? Ruth. 316 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,720 S9: Oh my goodness, there are so many. Um, uh, the 317 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,560 S9: more recent ones I'm thinking. Don Cole, of course, is one. Uh, 318 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:21,080 S9: think of Brant Gustafson. Uh, I remember Chuck Wagner very well. Um, 319 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:30,840 S9: and Wayne, you, um, uh. Um, I can't think of 320 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,240 S9: his first name right now. Uh, Stan Ferris. Stan Ferris 321 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,440 S9: was another one of the announcers that I remember that voice. Yeah. 322 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,120 S1: Um, and all of those voices. There's another one that 323 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,160 S1: was right across the hall from you. Wayne and I, we, 324 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,960 S1: we did this program last week, and his name came 325 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:57,560 S1: up in our conversation with Phil and Kevin. And I 326 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,200 S1: got a voicemail after that. And I want to play 327 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,160 S1: this from you, from a listener who had to call 328 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,280 S1: in and say this. 329 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,880 S10: Hi, Chris. I was just listening to your episode from yesterday, 330 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,679 S10: about 100 years of Moody Radio, which is spectacular. I 331 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,080 S10: love it. I heard a comment about how Mike Kellogg 332 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,920 S10: took pride in putting so many people to sleep, and 333 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,480 S10: I wanted to let you know he actually still does. 334 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,720 S10: I still listen to the audiobook of the NLT Bible 335 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,040 S10: that Mike Kellogg narrated. I'll plug in an earbud when 336 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,050 S10: I go to sleep, and Mike Kellogg quite often puts 337 00:18:36,050 --> 00:18:40,250 S10: me to sleep, uh, night after night. Thought you'd enjoy that. 338 00:18:40,290 --> 00:18:41,449 S10: Have a great afternoon. 339 00:18:41,609 --> 00:18:45,090 S1: Mike would be smiling. Have a great day. Indeed. Yeah. Right. Wayne? 340 00:18:45,130 --> 00:18:48,129 S2: Absolutely. You know, I think one of the last times 341 00:18:48,130 --> 00:18:51,650 S2: I spoke with Mike, I. I invited him to come 342 00:18:51,650 --> 00:18:54,369 S2: on my show and do a reading of A Christmas Carol, 343 00:18:54,810 --> 00:18:59,330 S2: which he did. And, uh, so masterfully. I mean, Mike 344 00:18:59,330 --> 00:19:01,490 S2: Kellogg reading Dickens. I mean, does it get any better 345 00:19:01,490 --> 00:19:02,330 S2: than that? Right? 346 00:19:02,609 --> 00:19:07,370 S1: Yeah. Ruth, you worked alongside Mike for many years. Did 347 00:19:07,369 --> 00:19:12,810 S1: he speak into your life, too? I don't know if 348 00:19:12,810 --> 00:19:16,650 S1: she can hear us now. Let's. Let's try that again. Ruth, 349 00:19:16,650 --> 00:19:17,730 S1: are you still with us? 350 00:19:18,210 --> 00:19:19,250 S9: Yes, I am. 351 00:19:19,290 --> 00:19:23,050 S1: Okay. Say something about Mike Kellogg. What did Mike Kellogg 352 00:19:23,090 --> 00:19:24,330 S1: speak into your life? 353 00:19:26,170 --> 00:19:30,450 S9: Oh, he was just a a wonderful friend. Uh, when 354 00:19:30,450 --> 00:19:33,129 S9: I was going through a very difficult time in my 355 00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:36,460 S9: own life, I would listen to him at night and 356 00:19:36,460 --> 00:19:39,260 S9: it was such a comfort. And, uh, he was he 357 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:42,859 S9: was a great friend. And I enjoyed working with him 358 00:19:42,859 --> 00:19:48,379 S9: as well. And it was just a wonderful, gentle, talented 359 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:50,180 S9: Christian gentleman. 360 00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:55,859 S1: Yeah. And, and the things that that most people don't know, Wayne, 361 00:19:55,859 --> 00:19:58,620 S1: about Mike and those behind the scenes, there's a lot 362 00:19:58,619 --> 00:20:00,700 S1: of fun. We had a lot of fun behind the scenes. 363 00:20:00,980 --> 00:20:04,020 S2: Right. Oh it was, it was a hoot to work 364 00:20:04,060 --> 00:20:07,220 S2: at WMBI in those days. I mean, there was a 365 00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:09,460 S2: lot of. Well, Chris, let's be honest. You know, you 366 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:11,340 S2: were you were quite the prankster in your day. 367 00:20:11,380 --> 00:20:13,500 S1: So let's not go there. 368 00:20:13,820 --> 00:20:17,620 S2: Okay? We won't. And Mike was just this wonderfully jovial 369 00:20:17,660 --> 00:20:20,379 S2: guy who just loved to have fun as well. He would. 370 00:20:20,420 --> 00:20:22,379 S2: I can still hear his laugh, you know, if you 371 00:20:22,420 --> 00:20:26,420 S2: get you get Mike Kellogg and Don Cole laughing. Those 372 00:20:26,460 --> 00:20:28,900 S2: those are laughs. You'll never forget the rest of your life. 373 00:20:28,980 --> 00:20:32,500 S1: But the other thing was that when they were. And 374 00:20:32,550 --> 00:20:35,949 S1: I've heard this from the folks who've met, you know, these, these, 375 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:40,510 S1: these people, uh, at some conference or whatever. It's like 376 00:20:40,750 --> 00:20:45,150 S1: they're the same behind the microphone as they are in person. 377 00:20:45,470 --> 00:20:48,390 S1: And that's a, that's a real gift to be able 378 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:50,030 S1: to be yourself. Right. Wayne. 379 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:54,750 S2: Oh, absolutely. I aspire to that. I really, I really do. Um, 380 00:20:55,030 --> 00:20:57,869 S2: you know, it's just such a remarkable thing to be 381 00:20:57,910 --> 00:21:00,950 S2: able to look back and recall. And Ruth, I'm sure 382 00:21:00,950 --> 00:21:03,670 S2: it's true for you too, to recall all the experiences. 383 00:21:03,670 --> 00:21:06,590 S2: And people ask me, you know, I, I actually, uh, 384 00:21:06,590 --> 00:21:10,390 S2: left Moody's employ back in 2007, even though I freelanced 385 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:12,910 S2: with Moody people asked me, what do you miss? Well, 386 00:21:12,910 --> 00:21:16,030 S2: I miss live radio like this, but I miss the people. 387 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:19,110 S2: I miss the people. I miss the teamwork. You know, 388 00:21:19,150 --> 00:21:21,830 S2: we did such great things together as a team that 389 00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:23,190 S2: I'll never forget those days. 390 00:21:23,670 --> 00:21:28,189 S1: And, Ruth, you then moved from Chicago after Sugar and Spice. 391 00:21:28,190 --> 00:21:30,389 S1: You worked with Don Cole for a number of years, 392 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:34,000 S1: and then you move to Florida and you found a 393 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,480 S1: new family there. Is that true? 394 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,880 S9: Yes. That's true. I moved here in 1991 after being 395 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,800 S9: in Chicago for 21 years. So a whole new group. 396 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,600 S9: It was very, very different. Um, but, uh, it was 397 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,000 S9: it's been a wonderful experience. It really has. I was 398 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,440 S9: able to do more things, more interviewing down here than 399 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,560 S9: I think I'd ever done before. I did a lot 400 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,880 S9: in Chicago, but, but, uh, I, I did a lot 401 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,840 S9: here and that has been a very, uh, just a 402 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,360 S9: lot of, um, and a lot of richness to my 403 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,960 S9: experience and to, uh, to the years here. It's been, 404 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,400 S9: it's been a great experience. And what kind of who was, uh, one, 405 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,960 S9: one of my managers in Cleveland was the manager of 406 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,320 S9: this station as well. So I was working again with Dick. 407 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,280 S1: Yes. Whose voice we heard at the very beginning of 408 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,090 S1: the segment. Okay. So what kind of response did you 409 00:22:32,090 --> 00:22:35,929 S1: get through the years from listeners to Moody Radio, either 410 00:22:35,930 --> 00:22:38,530 S1: with sugar and spice or anything else that you did? 411 00:22:38,850 --> 00:22:42,290 S1: Is there something that comes to your mind that you say, 412 00:22:43,170 --> 00:22:46,250 S1: these are the ways that that we ministered to the 413 00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:47,610 S1: people who were listening? 414 00:22:49,930 --> 00:22:54,730 S9: Oh, there's so much. Chris. Um, the response over all 415 00:22:54,730 --> 00:23:00,010 S9: was good. Great, in fact. And after I got to Chicago, 416 00:23:00,290 --> 00:23:03,409 S9: Sugar and Spice had only been on started in Cleveland, 417 00:23:03,410 --> 00:23:07,010 S9: and then it was added to WDLM and then when 418 00:23:07,010 --> 00:23:09,810 S9: I got to Chicago, it was added to the network. 419 00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:12,610 S9: It wasn't called the network then, but, uh, and it 420 00:23:12,609 --> 00:23:17,210 S9: eventually wound up being on, I think, about 122 stations. 421 00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:25,330 S9: And it ended in 2005, 2000. Oh, that's not quite right. Anyway, um, yeah, 422 00:23:25,369 --> 00:23:27,610 S9: but I got a response. Like I said, I got 423 00:23:27,650 --> 00:23:31,140 S9: response from friends as well. And it was just a 424 00:23:31,140 --> 00:23:34,899 S9: kind of, um, a casual program. There was usually a 425 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:38,180 S9: little bit of music in it and, uh, household hints 426 00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:41,460 S9: and sometimes some cooking tips. Not a lot of that, 427 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:44,820 S9: but it was something that I enjoyed doing. I would 428 00:23:44,820 --> 00:23:48,020 S9: go up to the 12th floor where that little studio 429 00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:52,700 S9: was and take my records with me and get in 430 00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:55,620 S9: that studio all by myself and turn on the mic 431 00:23:55,660 --> 00:23:59,220 S9: and cue up the records and and off we would 432 00:23:59,220 --> 00:24:01,820 S9: go with sugar and spice. So it was, it was 433 00:24:01,820 --> 00:24:05,300 S9: a great, great time. And, uh, a lot of good, 434 00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:10,300 S9: good responses from people. And, um, and I just really 435 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:12,820 S9: enjoyed doing it. I think the listeners seem to enjoy 436 00:24:12,820 --> 00:24:13,580 S9: it as well. 437 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:17,580 S1: What a treat to hear your voice today, Ruth and Wayne. 438 00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:19,860 S1: Those studios could tell some stories, couldn't they? 439 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:23,060 S2: Yeah, they sure could. And, uh, Ruth is so wonderful 440 00:24:23,060 --> 00:24:25,340 S2: to hear your voice again. God bless you. And thank 441 00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:28,070 S2: you for your years of service. How many years altogether? 442 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:29,109 S2: Did you work at Moody? 443 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:36,390 S9: 60. 60 years full time till about till I think 444 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:40,389 S9: it was 2007 when I officially retired. But I thought, well, 445 00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:44,270 S9: what I'm going to do now, and I talked with 446 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:46,310 S9: I didn't know really what I was going to do. 447 00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:50,389 S9: And it turned out that there was an office four 448 00:24:50,430 --> 00:24:53,550 S9: day a week office job, and they wanted to know 449 00:24:53,550 --> 00:24:56,109 S9: if I wanted to do that. So I took that, 450 00:24:56,109 --> 00:24:58,109 S9: and I still got to be on the air a 451 00:24:58,109 --> 00:25:02,550 S9: little bit. And I was there then until, uh, I 452 00:25:02,590 --> 00:25:09,110 S9: think 2007 was probably my official official retirement. Uh, the 453 00:25:09,109 --> 00:25:12,150 S9: one I actually retired, the official retirement was a few 454 00:25:12,150 --> 00:25:16,030 S9: years before that. Um, so just great memories all the 455 00:25:16,030 --> 00:25:20,270 S9: way through and, and a privilege to minister, uh, when 456 00:25:20,270 --> 00:25:24,430 S9: I was a young woman, uh, actually teenager dedicated my 457 00:25:24,430 --> 00:25:28,240 S9: life to full time service. Little did I know what 458 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,359 S9: that would be or where it would lead me. But 459 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,280 S9: it led me into radio with Moody Bible Institute and 460 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,119 S9: and all those years of of ministering through the radio. 461 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,399 S1: What an honor to have you here today, Ruth. Thank 462 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,960 S1: you for spending this time with us. All right, so 463 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,119 S1: there's Wayne, there's Ruth, and there are two more voices 464 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,960 S1: you have to hear straight ahead on Moody Radio. 465 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,240 S11: This is Chris Fabry live and this is Moody. 466 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,040 S1: Radio is our. Thank you. This month we are celebrating 467 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,560 S1: 100 years of Moody Radio. And I'm glad that we're 468 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,679 S1: able to do this over several different programs. If you 469 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,920 S1: go to Chris Fabry live.org, scroll down, you'll see how 470 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,320 S1: you can receive a copy of this beautiful pictorial history, 471 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,530 S1: as well as written history of Moody Radio. Go to 472 00:26:26,530 --> 00:26:29,930 S1: Chris fabriclive.org. I've been trying for years to get our 473 00:26:29,930 --> 00:26:32,489 S1: next guest to join us. Today it happens. When I 474 00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:35,010 S1: came to Moody Radio, the gold standard of hosting and 475 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:38,330 S1: voice work was a man named Stan. And here is 476 00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:42,330 S1: a brief excerpt of his work from November of 1979 477 00:26:42,530 --> 00:26:44,169 S1: with a man named Chuck. 478 00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:48,490 S12: This is spectrum, and I'm Stan Ferris. You know, little 479 00:26:48,490 --> 00:26:51,490 S12: did my guests know that when he emerged after seven 480 00:26:51,490 --> 00:26:55,170 S12: months in prison, he was really just beginning to serve 481 00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:59,290 S12: out his life sentence. I'm talking about Charles Colson, who 482 00:26:59,290 --> 00:27:02,330 S12: was in the white House as an aide to President Nixon. 483 00:27:03,369 --> 00:27:07,010 S12: He became founder of Prison Fellowship back in 1975 and 484 00:27:07,050 --> 00:27:11,330 S12: is currently president of Prison Fellowship. Author of at least 485 00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:14,409 S12: two books that I know of, Born Again and Life Sentence, 486 00:27:15,970 --> 00:27:21,170 S12: hosts a commentary program called Another Point of View, heard 487 00:27:21,170 --> 00:27:24,780 S12: on many stations around the country and I believe there 488 00:27:24,780 --> 00:27:27,500 S12: was a film made after the Born Again book. Is 489 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:28,100 S12: that correct? 490 00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:30,939 S13: There was a movie made in Hollywood based on the 491 00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:36,100 S13: book Born Again and shown in secular theaters throughout the country. 492 00:27:37,180 --> 00:27:38,580 S13: And as a matter of fact, is now being shown 493 00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:39,619 S13: in different parts of the world. 494 00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:41,300 S3: His name is Stan. 495 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:46,060 S1: Ferris from 1979. Joining us from Arizona, the great state 496 00:27:46,060 --> 00:27:48,340 S1: of Arizona. Stan, what rolls through your soul when you 497 00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:48,980 S1: hear that? 498 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:56,980 S14: Well, uh, just the awesomeness of being involved in media 499 00:27:57,020 --> 00:28:01,260 S14: like the Moody Radio Network, you get to meet so 500 00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:04,780 S14: many influential people. It was really it was a privilege. 501 00:28:06,140 --> 00:28:09,020 S1: And at that time, Chuck Colson had two books and 502 00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:12,340 S1: no break point. It was a different, different program. Isn't 503 00:28:12,340 --> 00:28:12,820 S1: that credible? 504 00:28:12,859 --> 00:28:16,260 S2: Yeah. Stan. Don Cole used to say, talking about what 505 00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:18,660 S2: we do. He said, it's like going to grad school. 506 00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:20,300 S2: And it really was, wasn't it? It's like going to 507 00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:22,550 S2: graduate school. And Chris, I know you feel the same 508 00:28:22,550 --> 00:28:25,070 S2: from your years of hosting programs. You get to sit 509 00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:27,709 S2: and talk with these these people who just have so 510 00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:30,669 S2: much to give and stand. Did you ever feel that way? 511 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:35,270 S14: Well, yeah, I thought we were very privileged in that 512 00:28:35,310 --> 00:28:38,670 S14: we got to do actual research. We had time to 513 00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:43,630 S14: do long form interviews. And, you know, a lot of 514 00:28:43,630 --> 00:28:49,630 S14: the television news sort of spoiled that level of information 515 00:28:49,630 --> 00:28:53,350 S14: because everything was boiled down into 7 minutes or 3 minutes. 516 00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:57,150 S14: But we were so privileged that we got to spend 517 00:28:57,910 --> 00:29:02,590 S14: a long time with our guests and really get some 518 00:29:02,590 --> 00:29:04,550 S14: valuable information from them. 519 00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:09,230 S2: Yeah. You know, Chris, when I joined the staff in 74, Stan, 520 00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:11,590 S2: you'd been on staff a couple of years before that, right? 521 00:29:12,430 --> 00:29:12,990 S14: Yeah. 522 00:29:13,150 --> 00:29:15,590 S2: Okay. But when I joined the staff, you had already 523 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:17,670 S2: established yourself and you were Stan the Man. As far 524 00:29:17,670 --> 00:29:20,470 S2: as I was concerned, you were doing interviews with Francis 525 00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:24,110 S2: Schaeffer and Chuck Colson and C Everett Koop. And these 526 00:29:24,110 --> 00:29:26,990 S2: interviews were marvelously done. And I always looked up to you. 527 00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:29,390 S2: I was just a station break announcer in those days. 528 00:29:29,390 --> 00:29:32,750 S2: But man, you set a standard that I've never forgotten. Stan. 529 00:29:32,750 --> 00:29:34,469 S2: I just wanted to say that publicly. And thank you 530 00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:34,990 S2: for that. 531 00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:39,030 S14: Well, that's so kind. But the truth is, so many 532 00:29:39,030 --> 00:29:42,990 S14: of the people had such great stories to tell that, 533 00:29:43,030 --> 00:29:46,430 S14: as you know now, after having done it for many years, 534 00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:49,310 S14: your primary job is to sort of get out of 535 00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:52,510 S14: the way and make sure that the story gets told. 536 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:58,110 S14: You know, Chuck Colson kind of reminded me, um, I 537 00:29:58,150 --> 00:30:03,190 S14: finished my bachelor's through Moody, uh, a long time after 538 00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:06,350 S14: I actually graduated from there with a diploma. It was 539 00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:12,590 S14: later in life and I had to complete a community 540 00:30:12,590 --> 00:30:15,670 S14: ministry as part of the degree, even though I was 541 00:30:15,670 --> 00:30:20,640 S14: here in Arizona. And it turns out that my, community 542 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,120 S14: ministry was a prison ministry. 543 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,120 S2: Is that. 544 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,920 S14: Right? Interesting. 545 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,960 S2: I did not know that. 546 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,360 S3: Yeah. 547 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,080 S14: Yeah. So once a week, we would pack up our stuff. 548 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,240 S14: We'd drive out to Florence and we'd hold a little 549 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,560 S14: service with the inmates. And it was, you know, pretty 550 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:43,080 S14: creepy going through like 49 locked gates. But just about 551 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,800 S14: all of the prisoners, they wanted us to pray with them, 552 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,840 S14: and they would always say, please pray for my familia. They, 553 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,160 S14: they were all missing their families. And, um, so that 554 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,680 S14: was such a sweet little ministry that we had. It was, 555 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,520 S14: it was great. 556 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,800 S2: Stan, I want to mention one more name. I want 557 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,120 S2: to bring it up today. Uh, it was your partner 558 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,000 S2: in crime, Dave McAllister. Dave, uh, was and is a 559 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,880 S2: wonderful producer, a technical producer, one of the smartest men 560 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,760 S2: I've ever known. 561 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,920 S14: Brilliant guy. 562 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,130 S2: And the two of you would collaborate on these productions, 563 00:31:18,130 --> 00:31:19,930 S2: and that was something very special. 564 00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:22,850 S14: You know, I got a funny call from Dave some 565 00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:25,650 S14: years ago. You know, he worked with Erwin Lutzer for 566 00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:26,330 S14: many years. 567 00:31:27,170 --> 00:31:28,290 S2: It still does. 568 00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:28,690 S14: Church. 569 00:31:28,730 --> 00:31:29,530 S2: Yeah, it still does. 570 00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:33,650 S14: Yeah. And so he called me on the phone. He said, 571 00:31:34,330 --> 00:31:40,130 S14: Stan and I go, yeah. And he goes, Ferris. And 572 00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:45,530 S14: I go, yes, Dave, this is me. He's he's like, oh, I, 573 00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:48,170 S14: I was kind of scared to call because Erwin Lutzer 574 00:31:48,170 --> 00:31:50,570 S14: heard that you'd passed away and I just needed to 575 00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:55,370 S14: call and see for myself what was going on. So. 576 00:31:57,410 --> 00:32:00,570 S1: Here's, here's something for those who listen, for those who 577 00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:05,250 S1: listen to open Line from the beginning, from the satellite, 578 00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:09,290 S1: you know, in 1982, right? You heard a theme that 579 00:32:09,290 --> 00:32:11,770 S1: started with the triangle ding ding ding ding ding ding 580 00:32:11,770 --> 00:32:16,540 S1: ding da da da da. That song, that theme Was 581 00:32:16,540 --> 00:32:21,300 S1: pretty much played and conceived by you, wasn't it, Stan? 582 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:24,340 S14: Yeah, we recorded it in Dave's basement studio. 583 00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:27,780 S2: And you hosted the program? 584 00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:32,940 S14: Yeah. Yep. And we had the little telephone effects at 585 00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:33,900 S14: the end of the theme. 586 00:32:33,940 --> 00:32:34,540 S2: I can hear it. 587 00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:34,900 S3: Yeah. 588 00:32:34,940 --> 00:32:39,340 S14: Yeah, yeah, that was okay. So much brand new stuff, Chris. 589 00:32:39,380 --> 00:32:42,060 S14: In the time that I was there, even though I'm. 590 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:46,260 S14: I'm just a shadow of. Of most of you guys 591 00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:49,220 S14: in your involvement over decades with Moody. I was just 592 00:32:49,220 --> 00:32:53,260 S14: a relatively short time. Still, so many wonderful things happen. 593 00:32:53,260 --> 00:32:57,020 S14: And before I forget, Ruthie, it was such a joy 594 00:32:57,020 --> 00:32:59,420 S14: to hear your voice. And you too, Wayne. 595 00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:00,100 S3: Yeah. 596 00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:02,860 S1: Uh, Walter Carlson, I saw a picture of you in 597 00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:06,380 S1: the newsroom with Walter Carlson, which had to go back 598 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:08,420 S1: to the early 70s. 599 00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:15,470 S14: Right? Yes. Before electricity, the Walt. Walt was a He 600 00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:19,750 S14: was a very predictable gentleman. He was a master at 601 00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:24,150 S14: his job, but he was very particular about how he 602 00:33:24,150 --> 00:33:27,790 S14: liked things done in the newsroom. And I can remember 603 00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:32,630 S14: in my youthful enthusiasm, thinking that perhaps the pile of 604 00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:36,510 S14: news could be better arranged in a slightly different way. 605 00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:38,950 S2: Oh, no no, no. What were you thinking? 606 00:33:41,790 --> 00:33:45,190 S1: It is. This is so much fun because you say 607 00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:48,709 S1: that you weren't there that long, but your shadow did 608 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:51,750 S1: cast a long way. As a matter of fact, we 609 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:55,190 S1: worked when we went to Amsterdam. Wayne, you had Stan 610 00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:58,830 S1: and Ellen as your wife, right, Stan? Uh, yes. I 611 00:33:58,830 --> 00:34:01,270 S1: think Stan and Ellen came with us. And the thing 612 00:34:01,270 --> 00:34:03,630 S1: I remembered from that was you had this little guitar, 613 00:34:03,670 --> 00:34:07,110 S1: this tiny little guitar, electric guitar that you brought. And 614 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:09,629 S1: I fell in love with that thing. And you told 615 00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:12,270 S1: me the other day that you still don't have that. 616 00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:13,270 S1: What happened to. 617 00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:13,509 S3: It? 618 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,399 S14: Well, you know how they were. It was a very 619 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:22,640 S14: unique conference where itinerant evangelists and others involved in grassroots 620 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,600 S14: ministries were gathered there in Amsterdam, and many of them 621 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,880 S14: had very little means. I don't know if the Graham 622 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:34,400 S14: Organization specifically paid their way there or what. I forget 623 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,720 S14: what the exact arrangement, but these were not, you know, wealthy, 624 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,279 S14: media savvy people that showed up. And I remember them 625 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:48,080 S14: asking for donations from some of us. And, you know, 626 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,880 S14: if we had clothing we didn't need or other materials. 627 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,880 S14: And I felt like, wow, here I've got this little 628 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,279 S14: instrument and they're fairly plentiful in North America. You know, 629 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,080 S14: there's a music store around every corner. So I felt 630 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,799 S14: like it would be better put to use by leaving 631 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,730 S14: me and, and going back and helping out in a 632 00:35:12,969 --> 00:35:14,610 S14: grassroots ministry somewhere. 633 00:35:14,850 --> 00:35:17,850 S1: That's the heart. That's the heart of Moody Radio and 634 00:35:17,850 --> 00:35:20,129 S1: the folks behind the scenes. And we're not we're not 635 00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:23,450 S1: painting this out that we're all perfect. No. Absolutely not. Very. 636 00:35:23,489 --> 00:35:25,770 S2: We take another two hours to talk about that subject. 637 00:35:26,290 --> 00:35:29,850 S1: But, Stan, I thank you for saying yes to us 638 00:35:29,850 --> 00:35:33,250 S1: here today and for your the shadow that you have 639 00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:35,930 S1: cast on all of us. God bless you, friend. Thanks 640 00:35:35,930 --> 00:35:38,130 S1: for staying staying with us here today. 641 00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:42,290 S14: Thanks so much, Chris. And, and, and Ruth. Bless you guys. 642 00:35:42,330 --> 00:35:47,690 S1: Yeah, yeah. Thanks. Dan Ferris from 1970 to 1983. So 643 00:35:47,690 --> 00:35:49,850 S1: we talked with Wayne. We talked with Ruth, we talked 644 00:35:49,850 --> 00:35:53,130 S1: with Stan. There's one more person that you have to 645 00:35:53,170 --> 00:35:56,169 S1: hear from. She's coming up straight ahead if you want 646 00:35:56,170 --> 00:35:59,049 S1: a copy of This is Moody Radio 100 Years Proclaiming 647 00:35:59,050 --> 00:36:05,130 S1: the Gospel. You'll find out more@chris.org. Chris barrie.org. 648 00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:19,100 S15: Welcome to Midday Connection. I'm Anita Lustria, and we've got 649 00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:22,339 S15: a great program for you today. Do you worry? Do 650 00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:25,180 S15: you struggle with worry? Okay, I hear heard a few 651 00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:28,940 S15: of you say, no, I never do. You're lying. I 652 00:36:28,940 --> 00:36:31,140 S15: just know you are. I think we all struggle with it, 653 00:36:31,140 --> 00:36:33,820 S15: but some of us won't admit it. I didn't admit 654 00:36:33,820 --> 00:36:36,339 S15: it for years. I said, oh no, no. And now 655 00:36:36,340 --> 00:36:38,900 S15: I kind of realize I'm a bit of an anxious person. 656 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,060 S15: And okay, right. There is a right there. 657 00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:44,859 S1: That voice, that's our fourth voice today. Anita Lustria and 658 00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:47,700 S1: right there, Anita was the secret sauce. And that was 659 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:51,859 S1: I'm I'm not haven't reached the pinnacle. And I'm going 660 00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:54,500 S1: to tell you the truth about your life and tell 661 00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:57,300 S1: you what to do. It's like I'm a fellow struggler, right? 662 00:36:57,340 --> 00:37:01,940 S15: Right on, right on. That was a big part of me. I'm, 663 00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:04,460 S15: I am great, and this has been so delightful to 664 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:08,140 S15: listen in on all of these voices. Of course, I 665 00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:12,750 S15: overlapped with Wayne and with Ruth. Stan left just before 666 00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:15,710 S15: I showed up on the scene, but. But certainly I 667 00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:18,510 S15: knew of the legend of Stan Ferris. 668 00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:19,270 S2: The Long Shadow. 669 00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:22,430 S15: Yeah, that's right, the long shadow. And, uh, you know, 670 00:37:22,469 --> 00:37:27,270 S15: just stepping into, uh, all that moody radio was before 671 00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:30,990 S15: I arrived and has been after I left, you know, 672 00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:33,550 S15: what a what a joy to have been a part 673 00:37:33,550 --> 00:37:34,790 S15: of that along the way. 674 00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:39,990 S1: The endearing image that I have of you, Anita, is 675 00:37:39,989 --> 00:37:43,430 S1: that you had your, your, um, office and then the 676 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:45,950 S1: music library and how many times I would go in 677 00:37:45,989 --> 00:37:48,310 S1: there and I would steal these Michael W Smith albums 678 00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:51,710 S1: and take them up to do recordings with, you know, say, oh, 679 00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:55,830 S1: I really want to play that, um, that instrumental there. 680 00:37:55,950 --> 00:37:58,750 S1: And you kept a tight lock on that. But sometimes, 681 00:37:58,989 --> 00:38:03,070 S1: sometimes because music was your thing, you were a musician 682 00:38:03,310 --> 00:38:06,509 S1: singing all, you know, your whole life in the, in 683 00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:09,200 S1: the choir, chorale, that kind of thing with Moody, right? 684 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,959 S2: Well, you're saying telephone requests? 685 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,879 S15: Well, and I think back to my moody days as 686 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,720 S15: a student. I sang with the new disciples so many, 687 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,239 S15: many years ago, in the late 70s. And so yeah, 688 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,520 S15: music was my thing. And, um, I did try and 689 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,759 S15: keep a lock and key on that stuff, but I 690 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,800 S15: knew where to track you down. Yeah. 691 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,600 S11: You knew where we were. You also worked with. 692 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,720 S1: Uh, the Friday Night Sing. You were the one who, 693 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,080 S1: for many years, you would book the guests and and 694 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,440 S1: coordinate all that, right? 695 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,830 S15: Yeah. I was producer of the Friday Sing from 1988 696 00:38:44,830 --> 00:38:50,280 S15: to 1998. And what a treat that was. And a joy. 697 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,279 S15: I saw it morph from, um, you know, uh, a 698 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,919 S15: free will offering to we're going to ticket it at 699 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,719 S15: the door and suggest a gift to printed tickets and 700 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,400 S15: paid tickets. I mean, it went through a major metamorphosis, 701 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,770 S15: but many amazing concerts were held eventually at Moody Church, 702 00:39:11,770 --> 00:39:16,330 S15: where we had 3600 seats and this this beautiful live audience. 703 00:39:16,330 --> 00:39:18,890 S15: And then it was broadcast, of course, across the country. 704 00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:22,489 S15: It was a great joy of of some of my 705 00:39:22,489 --> 00:39:23,810 S15: work at Moody, for sure. 706 00:39:24,010 --> 00:39:27,330 S2: Anita, good to hear from you today. I remember well 707 00:39:27,330 --> 00:39:31,969 S2: those days and I mentioned telephone requests. Listeners would phone 708 00:39:31,969 --> 00:39:34,330 S2: in requests, and you and other vocalists would be right 709 00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:37,130 S2: there to sing the requests as it came in. That 710 00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:39,610 S2: couldn't have been easy. But you did it and did well. 711 00:39:39,930 --> 00:39:40,410 S2: And then came. 712 00:39:40,410 --> 00:39:40,810 S15: So much. 713 00:39:40,810 --> 00:39:43,609 S2: Fun. Yeah. Then came this program called Midday Connection. Now 714 00:39:43,610 --> 00:39:47,530 S2: the founding, the founding host of the program, somebody named 715 00:39:47,570 --> 00:39:49,570 S2: Andrea Fabbri. Well, Andrea. 716 00:39:49,570 --> 00:39:50,010 S15: Was the. 717 00:39:50,410 --> 00:39:53,730 S2: Yeah, I was the management person to start it, but 718 00:39:53,770 --> 00:39:57,170 S2: we wanted Andrea to host and she was a mom 719 00:39:57,170 --> 00:40:00,610 S2: of young children. And her husband put his foot down 720 00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:04,450 S2: and said, she can only do three days a week. 721 00:40:04,450 --> 00:40:06,140 S2: So I sat in for two days. But then you 722 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:08,500 S2: came along after Andrea to host midday. 723 00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:12,140 S15: Well, she was amazing. And I actually produced Midday Connection 724 00:40:12,140 --> 00:40:15,380 S15: the last two years that she did that. Yeah. Yes. 725 00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:18,620 S15: And as she was doing it and these amazing topics 726 00:40:18,620 --> 00:40:21,259 S15: that she would bring to the air, um, would, would 727 00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:24,340 S15: really touch my heart and resonate with me. She was 728 00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:27,260 S15: getting ready to leave. And I remember popping into your office, 729 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:30,580 S15: Wayne and saying, hey, hey, uh, do you kind of 730 00:40:30,620 --> 00:40:36,540 S15: maybe sort of think I might try that as a host? Oh, boy. 731 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,819 S1: And you said yes. Yeah. Now what did what did 732 00:40:39,820 --> 00:40:43,779 S1: all of this for you, Anita? How did Moody Radio 733 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:48,180 S1: launch you? Because you're a spiritual director. You're a certified 734 00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:51,500 S1: Enneagram trainer. You're a media coach. You're an artist. I 735 00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:54,380 S1: love what you do. Your daily piece of art on Instagram. 736 00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:56,540 S1: It is just so much fun to see what you 737 00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:59,620 S1: come up with. But what did how did Moody Radio 738 00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:02,020 S1: help in that transformation? 739 00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:06,060 S15: You know what? In so many ways, Chris. And I'm 740 00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:09,860 S15: going to actually tell you a quick story that went 741 00:41:09,860 --> 00:41:13,540 S15: back to Founders Week. Talk about Moody Radio and some 742 00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:16,620 S15: of the distinctives. You know, we broadcast this amazing Bible 743 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:21,380 S15: conference year after year. And in 1995, Larry Crabb spoke 744 00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:25,460 S15: and he did three afternoon messages, the calling of a 745 00:41:25,460 --> 00:41:29,219 S15: wise elder, the courage of a wise elder, the vision 746 00:41:29,219 --> 00:41:33,339 S15: of a wise elder. I bought the cassettes because that's 747 00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:36,420 S15: what you listen to. Back then, after he had done 748 00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:39,219 S15: that series, I listened to them over and over and 749 00:41:39,219 --> 00:41:42,660 S15: over and over, not knowing that I would eventually host 750 00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:46,420 S15: midday and meet him and have him on as a guest. 751 00:41:46,580 --> 00:41:51,340 S15: But those messages were foundationally all about what spiritual direction was, 752 00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:55,540 S15: and God planted that seed way back then. And that 753 00:41:55,540 --> 00:41:58,899 S15: seed kept growing during my days at midday. Connection. 754 00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:02,380 S1: Yeah, it is so good. We're saying this over and over, Wayne. 755 00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:03,549 S1: It's so good to hear your voice. 756 00:42:03,590 --> 00:42:04,030 S2: I know. 757 00:42:04,350 --> 00:42:06,510 S1: It's so good to hear you. Here's what I remember. 758 00:42:06,510 --> 00:42:08,590 S1: Because in the break, you two were mentioning all of 759 00:42:08,590 --> 00:42:12,629 S1: these different events that Moody would cover, and the one 760 00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:14,790 S1: that I remember was in, I believe it was the 761 00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:17,069 S1: 94 Olympics in Atlanta. 762 00:42:17,350 --> 00:42:18,630 S15: 1996. 763 00:42:18,830 --> 00:42:23,670 S1: Was it 1996? And Babbie Mason was singing down there, 764 00:42:23,830 --> 00:42:26,509 S1: and I got to stay. And Buddy Greene and I 765 00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:30,550 S1: stayed at Frank Boggs's house, which is a whole other program. 766 00:42:30,590 --> 00:42:32,790 S2: You drew the short straw, huh? Yeah. 767 00:42:33,590 --> 00:42:35,230 S1: That's what Frank did. Frank. 768 00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:38,390 S15: Oh my goodness. Well, and who hosted I know Wayne, 769 00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:41,470 S15: you hosted. So we did two Friday sings live from 770 00:42:41,469 --> 00:42:45,590 S15: the Olympics. Buddy Greene was one one weekend was one Friday. 771 00:42:45,590 --> 00:42:49,750 S15: And Babbie Mason was the next Friday. It was incredible. 772 00:42:49,870 --> 00:42:53,430 S15: You know, smaller churches, not the 3600 seat auditorium of 773 00:42:53,469 --> 00:42:56,910 S15: Moody Church, but packed out and of course, broadcast live 774 00:42:56,910 --> 00:43:00,430 S15: across the country with the Olympics as the backdrop. It 775 00:43:00,430 --> 00:43:03,400 S15: was incredible. And again, right, one of the distinctives of 776 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,680 S15: Moody radio and I had forgotten that one. 777 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,400 S1: Thanks, Chris. 778 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,800 S2: Yeah, I had forgotten that one too. A Promise Keepers 779 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,520 S2: came along. We became, uh, really moody. Radio became the 780 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,319 S2: production team for those many of those live events that 781 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,200 S2: were heard on, on our stations and others. Um, Amsterdam 782 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,040 S2: was mentioned earlier. 783 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,480 S15: Oh yeah. Amsterdam. Yes. And Amsterdam 2000 and the nationally 784 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,840 S15: broadcast concert of prayer that took place for many years. 785 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,640 S15: We broadcast that live from all around the country, different places. 786 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,879 S1: Urbana, Urbana, Urbana. Remember that? Yeah. Oh. Those days. Uh, 787 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,879 S1: and I remember when I first started, Wayne was up 788 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:44,600 S1: in studio in studio B, receiving, receiving by satellite, I 789 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,400 S1: think it was by satellite, uh, the Billy Graham Mission England. 790 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:49,719 S2: Mission. 791 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,520 S1: At the time. Oh, yes. Mission London. 792 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,040 S15: Yes. 793 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,319 S1: So it's like, that's one of the things that Moody 794 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:59,000 S1: Radio has been committed to, to bring that to you. Right, Anita? 795 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,770 S15: Yes. And also I want to say that one of 796 00:44:01,770 --> 00:44:04,890 S15: the things Moody Radio has done so well through the years, 797 00:44:04,890 --> 00:44:10,050 S15: they've continued to grow young and new talent. I asked 798 00:44:10,050 --> 00:44:13,049 S15: so many times I went into Wayne's office. Maybe it 799 00:44:13,050 --> 00:44:16,129 S15: was Doug Hastings or John Maddox, different bosses of mine 800 00:44:16,130 --> 00:44:19,610 S15: through the years and said, hey, can I try this? Hey, 801 00:44:19,650 --> 00:44:23,730 S15: can I do this? And I always got a yes. 802 00:44:23,850 --> 00:44:27,650 S15: And they kept, uh, saying yes to me. And I kept, 803 00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:30,690 S15: you know, learning and growing. And then someone else would 804 00:44:30,690 --> 00:44:34,330 S15: come along, some other new young voice. And I really 805 00:44:34,330 --> 00:44:39,489 S15: appreciate that. I felt that I was invested in and, 806 00:44:39,810 --> 00:44:42,130 S15: and just kept moving forward with those yeses. 807 00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:45,569 S2: I'm glad you mentioned that, Anita, because as I have 808 00:44:45,570 --> 00:44:47,569 S2: read this new book that's come out and it's done 809 00:44:47,570 --> 00:44:50,850 S2: so well, I love how they've orchestrated it into decades, 810 00:44:50,850 --> 00:44:53,930 S2: because each decade of Moody radio has had its own 811 00:44:53,969 --> 00:44:57,650 S2: innovative innovation, right? Yes, yes. In the 40s and the 30s, 812 00:44:57,690 --> 00:44:59,860 S2: you know, they're doing live. Can you imagine producing a 813 00:44:59,860 --> 00:45:03,339 S2: live radio programs all day long? Yes. Music programs all day. 814 00:45:03,739 --> 00:45:06,140 S2: And in in our day, you know, we had the satellite, 815 00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:08,580 S2: which opened up. It was like a blank slate opening 816 00:45:08,580 --> 00:45:11,020 S2: up the world of radio that we could write on. 817 00:45:11,060 --> 00:45:13,739 S2: It was a terrific experience. It started with you, with 818 00:45:13,739 --> 00:45:16,180 S2: the new disciples. I'd forgotten that you and Bill Davis. 819 00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:16,860 S1: Bill Davis. 820 00:45:17,020 --> 00:45:18,620 S2: Davis was a new disciple. Yeah. 821 00:45:18,660 --> 00:45:19,980 S15: Yeah. He was, he was. 822 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:23,060 S1: Anita, I have to say to you that my experience 823 00:45:23,060 --> 00:45:27,739 S1: was the exact opposite. They told me no so many times. Well, 824 00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:31,740 S1: you said we weren't perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Brad Gustavson, Jim 825 00:45:31,739 --> 00:45:35,180 S1: Gwinn and others. But, uh, man, we stand on the 826 00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:38,739 S1: shoulders of these giants. And you hear from Ruth Dinwiddie 827 00:45:38,780 --> 00:45:42,140 S1: today and from Stan Ferris who came a little before us. 828 00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:45,860 S1: Wayne Shepard's been here. Anita so great to hear your voice. 829 00:45:45,860 --> 00:45:48,819 S1: Glad you're doing well. Keep doing your daily piece of 830 00:45:48,820 --> 00:45:49,859 S1: art on Instagram. 831 00:45:49,860 --> 00:45:50,899 S8: Okay, I'll do it. 832 00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:51,779 S15: Thanks, Chris. 833 00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:55,620 S1: And you will find pictures of these folks and stories 834 00:45:55,620 --> 00:45:58,550 S1: about them in that book that Wayne just mentioned. This 835 00:45:58,550 --> 00:46:03,350 S1: is Moody Radio 100 Years Proclaiming the gospel. It's written 836 00:46:03,350 --> 00:46:06,029 S1: by Kevin Mangels and Phil Shapard. We had them on 837 00:46:06,030 --> 00:46:09,549 S1: a week ago, but it's available to you. 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