WEBVTT - Hour 1: Scripture Study

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<v S1>Last week, the stock market seemed to melt down. Economists

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<v S1>began to speculate about our economy, wondering if we'll have

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<v S1>a soft landing or a hard recession. How should we

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<v S1>think about our personal finances? Stay with me. We'll talk

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<v S1>about that in just a moment. Hello, friends. Welcome to

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<v S1>Open Line with doctor Michael Redlick Moody Radio's Bible Study

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<v S1>Across America. I'm that very same Michael Ray Melnick that

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<v S1>I just mentioned. I'm the academic dean and professor of

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<v S1>Jewish Studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute. It's time

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<v S1>for our Bible study across America. We're sitting around the

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<v S1>radio kitchen table. We have our Bibles open, and I'm

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<v S1>ready for your, uh, we also have a cup of

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<v S1>coffee here. Steaming. Tricia, thank you so much for bringing

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<v S1>me that coffee. And, uh, we're sitting around here waiting

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<v S1>for your calls. If you have a question about the Bible, God,

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<v S1>or the spiritual life, just give us a call. The

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<v S1>phone number here. (877) 548-3675. Let me give it to you

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<v S1>one more time, because now's a great time to call.

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<v S1>People always want to know when can I get in?

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<v S1>When can I get my, my, my question through? The

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<v S1>way to do that is to call right now. (877) 548-3675. Well,

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<v S1>Tricia is in the producer's chair. Chris Sigurd's handling all

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<v S1>things technical. And, uh, is it to who's answering the phones? Tierra.

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<v S1>Tierra is answering the phones. Sorry about, uh, that's. You know,

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<v S1>people wonder why don't. Why doesn't he know? Well, it's

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<v S1>a completely different room. I don't see her, so that's why.

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<v S1>But anyway, I'm glad she's here answering the phones again.

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<v S1>The phone number (877) 548-3675. Now go get yourself a cup

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<v S1>of coffee. Open your Bible, because we're about to study

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<v S1>the scriptures together. If you think your 401 K had

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<v S1>a bad time last week, think about Jeff Bezos, chairman

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<v S1>of Amazon. I read a news report that in just

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<v S1>two days, Bezos lost $23,000,000,000.20 3 billion. But don't worry

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<v S1>about Jeff. His net worth is still about $185 billion.

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<v S1>so I think he'll just be fine. He'll be fine. Uh,

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<v S1>but a colleague of mine was so distressed about the

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<v S1>markets that she said, now I won't be able to

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<v S1>retire after this year. So it could be stressful. Well,

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<v S1>whether we have a retirement account, a 401 K, an IRA,

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<v S1>a savings account, whatever we have, whenever the markets are

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<v S1>in turmoil, it brings stress. So how should we think

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<v S1>about finance? The answer is in the book of God's wisdom,

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<v S1>the book of Proverbs in chapter 30, verses eight and nine,

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<v S1>here's what it says give me neither poverty nor wealth.

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<v S1>Feed me with the food I need. Otherwise I might

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<v S1>have too much and deny you saying, who is the Lord?

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<v S1>Or I might have nothing and steal profaning the name

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<v S1>of of my God. This is written by Edgar. And

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<v S1>so what can we learn from Edgar? From Proverbs 30

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<v S1>verses eight and nine? First, our prayer should be for

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<v S1>God to provide only what we need. That's why he asks.

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<v S1>Edgar asks God for neither poverty nor riches, but only

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<v S1>asked for the food that he needs. This is what

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<v S1>the Lord Jesus meant when he taught us to pray.

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<v S1>Give us this day our daily bread. We're to pray

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<v S1>for only what we need, not everything we might want.

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<v S1>And then he gives the reason with the second point. Secondly,

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<v S1>Hagar teaches us both wealth and poverty can be spiritually dangerous.

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<v S1>How so? Well, the danger of wealth is that it

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<v S1>may cause us to deny God by forgetting him otherwise.

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<v S1>Agar says I might have too much and deny you, saying,

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<v S1>who is the Lord? We all become when we have

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<v S1>too much, we become too self-reliant. We start thinking, I

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<v S1>don't need the Lord to provide. Look at all I have.

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<v S1>This attitude made me think of a story. One day,

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<v S1>a pastor was invited to John D Rockefeller's mansion. As

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<v S1>he drove up the winding drive lined with tall trees

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<v S1>with the massive house, he said, my, my. This is

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<v S1>what the Lord might have done if he'd only had

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<v S1>the money. Well, the truth of it is, everything that

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<v S1>anyone has comes from the Lord. Yet when we get

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<v S1>so wealthy, we think that we're independent of God and

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<v S1>we can deny him or forget him. The second danger

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<v S1>of is in poverty. The danger of poverty is that

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<v S1>it may cause us to dishonor God by stealing from others.

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<v S1>We don't want to deny him, but we might dishonor him.

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<v S1>I might have nothing, Agha says, and steal and profane

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<v S1>the name of my God. That's another form of self-reliance,

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<v S1>we might say. I won't trust God to provide for me,

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<v S1>but instead I'll just take it for myself. And you know,

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<v S1>this isn't limited to breaking and entering. We can steal

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<v S1>by cheating on our taxes, or gouging our customers, or

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<v S1>taking supplies from work or any number of creative ways.

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<v S1>All these actions bring dishonor to God, whether we are

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<v S1>caught or not. Both poverty and riches are dangerous because

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<v S1>they both tap into our greed, and our culture has

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<v S1>inflamed our natural greed as we've grown up. According to

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<v S1>Kevin Millar, it's estimated that we each have seen ready

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<v S1>for this 40,000 advertisements per year from childhood upward. Children,

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<v S1>even at the age of 18 months, can recognize the

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<v S1>golden arches because of commercials. John Ortberg says that when

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<v S1>we buy our kid a Happy Meal, this is what happens.

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<v S1>You're not just buying fries, McNuggets, and a dinosaur stamp,

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<v S1>you're buying happiness. The advertisements have convinced my children they

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<v S1>have a little McDonald's McDonald's shaped vacuum in their hearts.

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<v S1>Our souls are restless till they find their rest in

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<v S1>a happy meal. The problem with the Happy Meal is

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<v S1>that the happy wears off and they need a new fix.

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<v S1>No child discovers lasting happiness in just one. Remember that

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<v S1>happy Meal? What great joy I found there. No, no.

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<v S1>Happy meals bring happiness only to McDonald's. You ever wonder

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<v S1>why Ronald McDonald wears that grin? 20 Billion Happy Meals.

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<v S1>That's why, Wartburg concludes, when we get older, we don't

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<v S1>get any smarter. Our Happy Meals are just more expensive.

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<v S1>So what do we do about our inclination towards greed?

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<v S1>It's not to pursue wealth or to steal. We're already

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<v S1>warned about that. Here's what we do. First, we need

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<v S1>to pray. Give me neither poverty nor wealth, but only

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<v S1>what I need. Second, we need to give generously to

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<v S1>God's work. Fred Smith has said, giving is the drain

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<v S1>plug of our greed. As we give to God, our

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<v S1>grasping for more gives us, gives way to contentment. Because

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<v S1>godliness or spiritual maturity with contentment is great gain. We

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<v S1>don't have to be stressed by the ups and downs

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<v S1>of the markets. As long as we're walking with the

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<v S1>creator of the universe. Well, I hope that's an encouragement

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<v S1>to you. It's an encouragement and a reminder to me

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<v S1>as well. We're going to talk with Nathan in Chicago, Illinois.

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<v S1>That's our first call calling from listening on Wmbi. Welcome

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<v S1>to Open Line, Nathan. How can I help you today?

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<v S2>Oh, I'm fine, Doctor Redlich. Um, how can you help

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<v S2>me if I study in Leviticus 25? I see from, uh,

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<v S2>verses 10 to 51, it talks about the 50th year jubilee. And, uh,

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<v S2>I'm just wondering, did they did ancient Israel ever experience it?

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<v S1>I don't know.

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<v S2>They ever get there.

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<v S1>I don't know, uh, here's what I do know. Is

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<v S1>that the reason Israel went into captivity when they did

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<v S1>is they were supposed to have every seventh year off, right?

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<v S1>They were supposed to take a seventh year sabbatical, not

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<v S1>grow grain, not right. And what happened was they went

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<v S1>into 490 years is what, uh, 70? I'm sorry. Uh,

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<v S1>after 490 years, they went into captivity because they missed the, uh,

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<v S1>the seven year sabbatical 70 times. That's what Jeremiah tells us.

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<v S1>And so therefore, they had to go into captivity for

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<v S1>70 years to make up for the that God said,

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<v S1>I'm going to rest the land for 70 years. So

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<v S1>it sounds to me like they didn't follow the, the, uh,

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<v S1>sabbatical year, uh, very often. And therefore I would guess

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<v S1>that they didn't follow the Jubilee year as well. Okay.

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<v S2>So this came after the instructions they received in Leviticus 25.

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<v S1>Then apparently they didn't keep them. But you know what?

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<v S1>We may I don't know everything. Um, maybe they did sometime,

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<v S1>but they did meet. They did miss 70 years of

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<v S1>sabbatical years. Okay, Nathan, you know, one of the things

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<v S1>you just said, one of those things that is really

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<v S1>important when the Bible doesn't answer it. You said you

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<v S1>read the Bible. I don't see them keeping it any,

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<v S1>any year. Do you know what that means, Nathan?

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<v S2>You don't need to know.

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<v S1>We don't need to know. And we don't know. We

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<v S1>just can't know. Uh, I love a quote by D.L. Moody.

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<v S1>One of my. You might have heard of him. Moody

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<v S1>Bible Institute's name for him. Right? He said God didn't

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<v S1>give us the scriptures to satisfy our curiosity, but to

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<v S1>transform our lives. And so often when we're reading the

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<v S1>scriptures where we're looking to have our curiosity, did they

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<v S1>ever do this? Did they not? And, you know, those

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<v S1>are a lot of questions that we have. I have those, uh,

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<v S1>but my curiosity, that's not why God gave me the Bible.

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<v S1>He wants to change my life. So that's I think

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<v S1>the same is true for you, Nathan. Don't you think so?

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<v S2>I think I totally agree. There's one quick follow up. Yeah.

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<v S2>Will this be a reestablished in the millennium?

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<v S1>I don't know. That doesn't say what? Uh, because, you know,

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<v S1>it says in Isaiah two the law will go forth

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<v S1>from Zion, but that's just instruction in the messianic kingdom there.

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<v S1>I think we'll be living under a messianic Torah. Uh,

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<v S1>not necessarily the mosaic. So I don't know what will

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<v S1>be taken from the mosaic and part of the the

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<v S1>Messianic Torah. Okay.

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<v S2>Well, thank you so much, sir.

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<v S1>Yep. Thank you for your call. Really appreciate it. Uh,

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<v S1>we're going to go to a break. But before we do,

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<v S1>I do want to mention, uh, our current resource. Uh,

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<v S1>someone wrote to me and they wanted to know, uh,

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<v S1>why I think this book is so good. It's acts

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<v S1>in the Everyday Bible Commentary by Charles Ryrie. I think

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<v S1>there are so many factors that make it good, but

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<v S1>one that I especially like is that the book of

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<v S1>acts shows the progress of the gospel from Jerusalem to

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<v S1>the whole world, and this commentary brings it out and

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<v S1>helps us to have a perspective for, uh, being world,

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<v S1>world Christians, you know, being concerned for reaching the whole world.

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<v S1>And I think that's that's just a great, uh, a

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<v S1>great benefit. So if you're interested in this book, uh,

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<v S1>Charles Ryrie, the everyday Bible commentary by Charles Ryrie. We're

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<v S1>going to come back with more of your questions in

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<v S1>just a moment, so don't go away. This is Michael

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<v S1>Radonich and you are listening to Open Line. Welcome back

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<v S1>to Open Line with Mike Radonich. You know, I mentioned

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<v S1>something last week. I want to mention it again. You'll

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<v S1>be hearing a lot about it. It's something that's really

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<v S1>on my heart. The world has seen this explosion of anti-Semitism,

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<v S1>not just here in the United States, but across the globe,

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<v S1>not just about Israel, but about Jewish people everywhere. And

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<v S1>it's heartbreaking. And one of the things that we stand

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<v S1>for at Moody Bible Institute is that God has an

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<v S1>eternal love for his chosen people, the Jewish people. And

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<v S1>as a result, we have called a summit a one

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<v S1>day conference opposing anti-Semitism. It's upcoming on November 9th. Uh,

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<v S1>and it's being co-sponsored between Moody and Chosen People Ministries.

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<v S1>I'm going to talk about chosen people in just a moment,

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<v S1>but I'm so grateful that we're going to do this.

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<v S1>Some of the speakers I'll be speaking. Mitch Glazer, president

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<v S1>of Chosen People, will be speaking. Mark Jobe, president of Moody,

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<v S1>will be speaking at the summit. And also Don Sweeting, uh,

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<v S1>who is the chancellor of Colorado Christian University, but the

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<v S1>son of Moody, former Moody president, uh, Doctor George Sweeting.

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<v S1>So we're it's going to be a great lineup. We're

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<v S1>going to have a great time, uh, exploring how the

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<v S1>church can stand with the Jewish people and oppose anti-Semitism.

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<v S1>And it's November 9th. If you want to find out more,

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<v S1>the best place to go is go to Moody Conferences.

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<v S1>Org and you'll see a link there that you can

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<v S1>click on that says, uh, the summit Opposing antisemitism. Okay,

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<v S1>that's November 9th. And uh, people will be coming from

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<v S1>all over. There's all sorts of information if you need

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<v S1>to get a hotel for the the night or something

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<v S1>like that, uh, where you can do that and how

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<v S1>much it costs and all the different things that you

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<v S1>might be interested in, just go to that website, Moody Conferences.

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<v S1>Org and click on the summit opposing anti-Semitism. You can

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<v S1>register there as well. Now why? I mentioned that when

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<v S1>I think about the whole history of the Jewish people,

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<v S1>it's been a history. It's called the longest hatred. anti-Semitism.

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<v S1>anti-Semitism has lasted so long. And every time you think, oh,

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<v S1>it started with Pharaoh and Egypt and then went to Haman.

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<v S1>And now today with Hamas, it just doesn't matter. There's

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<v S1>this long heritage of anti-Semitism. And, uh, yet God has

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<v S1>preserved his people. And that's why Chosen People Ministries has

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<v S1>this fantastic Jewish art calendar that they're offering for free. Uh,

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<v S1>what it does is each picture shows God's faithfulness to

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<v S1>past anti-Semitism, God has always been faithful. That's what the

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<v S1>art calendar is about. And Jewish calendars, of course, start

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<v S1>Go to Openline radio.org and click on a free gift

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<v S1>from Chosen People Ministries. We're going to talk to Janet

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<v S1>now in Cleveland, Ohio, listening on Wqrf. Wcff. Welcome to

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<v S1>Open Line. Janet. How can I help you?

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<v S3>Well good morning. Good morning. I appreciate Open Line. I

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<v S3>appreciate your sharing with us in so many ways. Thank you.

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<v S3>My question is, how would what's the best way to

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<v S3>be able to talk with and approach someone who has

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<v S3>heard the gospel multiple times, but just doesn't believe it?

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<v S3>The Bible is true. Wonders if it's just mythological. Um,

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<v S3>she friends with a lot of, uh, believing people she's

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<v S3>been shared with many times, but she just simply just

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<v S3>seems to fall on deaf ears.

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<v S1>Mhm. Uh, well, you know, you can have a good

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<v S1>argument about it, you know that. But I'm not sure

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<v S1>that that's going to be all that helpful, you know? Uh,

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<v S1>here's here's how I would come at it, you know, um,

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<v S1>and this is I think what's so crucial is so

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<v S1>often the issue isn't about the cognitive, the academic, the

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<v S1>give me the five evidences that you that make you

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<v S1>believe whatever it is that you believe. Uh, so here's

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<v S1>the thing that I think melts people, opens them up,

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<v S1>and that is relationship. Uh, that without a good, warm friendship,

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<v S1>it's really hard to share seeds of the gospel. You know,

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<v S1>you got to cultivate, cultivate the soil with a relationship.

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<v S1>And and so there's one aspect is just being a

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<v S1>really good friend and being faithful. Secondly, what I would

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<v S1>say is live a transformed life. Your life has to

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<v S1>be something that a person looks at you and says,

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<v S1>there's something different about Janet. Uh, you know, I know

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<v S1>that I disagree with her about Jesus and the Bible,

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<v S1>but boy, the Bible sure has changed her. The Bible

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<v S1>has made her into a better person. Jesus has transformed her.

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<v S1>That's the second key. First relationship, second, uh, transformation. Living

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<v S1>a transformed life before someone. And then when when things

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<v S1>happen in your life. When things. When the Lord answers

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<v S1>a prayer, when the Lord gives you encouragement, when there's

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<v S1>something really, really important like that that you would share

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<v S1>with any friend, then, uh, what you need to do

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<v S1>and even when you have a need, saying, I'm having

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<v S1>people pray for me about whatever it is. Uh, I

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<v S1>know you don't pray, but I did want you to

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<v S1>know that people are praying for me about this. And

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<v S1>then when God answers that prayer, tell your friend about that.

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<v S1>That answer to prayer, how God has worked in your life,

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<v S1>got what you have learned and what God is doing.

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<v S1>As you raise those flags, what you're doing is you're

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<v S1>making this person jealous for your relationship that you have

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<v S1>with the Lord Jesus. And then the the last step,

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<v S1>I would say when she says, well, how could you

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<v S1>believe the Bible? I would so like to believe what

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<v S1>you have, but how is it that you can believe this? Well,

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<v S1>I would always go right to the resurrected Lord Jesus.

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<v S1>Here's the reasons I believe in the resurrection and Jesus

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<v S1>if if indeed, and he has been. But if indeed

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<v S1>Jesus is raised from the dead, then he's God, because

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<v S1>that's who he claimed to be and God raised. And

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<v S1>then he was raised from the dead. And if Jesus

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<v S1>believed the Bible, then I'm going to believe the Bible.

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<v S1>That's where I would start with that. So but it's

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<v S1>not an immediate thing. I wouldn't start there. I would,

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<v S1>I would go, I would go with that relationship transformed life,

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<v S1>and then raising the flag from time to time about

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<v S1>what God is doing in your life. And then ultimately

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<v S1>the resurrected Jesus, who is God, believed the Bible. That's

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<v S1>how I would go at it. Okay.

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<v S4>Okay. Yes. Yeah.

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<v S3>Thank you very much.

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<v S1>Yeah. I'm so glad. Thank you. You know, so often

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<v S1>we think if we just give people the four reasons

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<v S1>or five reasons that we believe the Bible, they're going

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<v S1>to say, oh, that's fine. Uh, it doesn't work that way. Usually,

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<v S1>usually what works is, is a relationship. So the key

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<v S1>to evangelism, in my opinion, is a transformed life. So

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<v S1>that's that's a great reminder for me because sometimes I

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<v S1>forget that that's the key not to win the argument,

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<v S1>but to win the person. And think about this. I

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<v S1>once heard someone say that if we want to see

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<v S1>people make a decision for the Lord, but really, if

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<v S1>we're caring for people, the truth is it's a series

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<v S1>of many decisions. It might be a decision to hear

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<v S1>your story, or it might be a decision to read

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<v S1>a book of the Bible. It might be a decision

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<v S1>to talk with you. It's a series of many decisions

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<v S1>rather than one big decision. We have to lead people

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<v S1>from not wanting and helping them to see they need,

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<v S1>and then help them to make that decision in the end.

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<v S1>So anyway, that's the story. Janet, thanks for your call.

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<v S1>We're going to talk to Mary listening in Illinois and Wwdm,

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<v S1>welcome to Open Line. Mary. How can I help you today?

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<v S4>Yes.

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<v S1>Go ahead.

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<v S4>Mary, um, I was wondering. I'm sorry. I am a Christian,

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<v S4>and I know what Romans 13 teaches us. Um, to, um,

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<v S4>respect our leaders unless it's contrary to God. Um, but

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<v S4>I was wondering about does God allow, uh, the presidents

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<v S4>to that we get to be selected? I have heard

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<v S4>that there is scripture to back that up. And if

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<v S4>there is, where is that scripture?

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<v S1>Um, it's in the book of Daniel, I think that's

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<v S1>probably the place I would go. Uh, uh let me

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<v S1>find the verse. Uh it says. Uh, Daniel chapter four,

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<v S1>verse 17, right in the middle. Here's what it says.

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<v S1>This is so the living will know. That's us. You

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<v S1>and me. Right, Mary? We're the living that the Most

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<v S1>High is ruler over the kingdom of men. He gives

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<v S1>it to anyone he wants and sets the lowliest of

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<v S1>men over it. So who's the real ruler? God himself,

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<v S1>who puts even lowly men in the position of king

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<v S1>or president or sovereign. Well, it's God himself, God's sovereign

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<v S1>over human government. Okay.

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<v S5>Okay, okay.

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<v S4>I was just, um, wondering where that scripture was, and

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<v S4>I've heard that I've heard that said. But I, um.

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<v S4>And I know it's true, but I just didn't know

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<v S4>where it was. Yeah. Thank you very much, Daniel.

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<v S1>For 17. It's great reminder. You know, uh, sometimes we

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<v S1>look at leaders and we can't believe that they're in charge,

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<v S1>but we trust the sovereign one. Think about that. That

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<v S1>was Nebuchadnezzar that this is said of. And God had

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<v S1>a way of humbling Nebuchadnezzar as well. Remember Nebuchadnezzar the

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<v S1>Babylonian tyrant? Well, he was humbled and ultimately had to

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<v S1>come to respect the sovereignty of God. Uh, that's a

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<v S1>great reminder. At this election season, you know, sometimes we

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<v S1>think that, uh, this is like the most important thing

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<v S1>in the world. I think the most important thing in

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<v S1>the world is to recognize the sovereign of the universe,

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<v S1>not the president of the United States. And that that's

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<v S1>just where it's at. You know, it's scary. Everyone has

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<v S1>their political opinions. Some people say if this person is

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<v S1>person's elected, then I'm going to leave the country. Well, no.

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<v S1>If the other person's elected, I'm going to leave the country.

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<v S1>You know what? I'm sticking around. I'm going to be

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<v S1>in this country by God's grace, and I'm going to

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<v S1>do my best to serve the sovereign of the universe. Uh,

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<v S1>at that, whoever is elected, that's the key. And and,

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<v S1>you know, the Bible teaches we need to pray for

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<v S1>our leaders. Uh, it also says honor the emperor in

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<v S1>first Peter, I think. I think that was Nero. Uh.

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<v S1>So when you think about it, uh, God calls us

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<v S1>to do that, not to have blind loyalty when the

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<v S1>government is doing something evil. But we have to speak up.

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<v S1>But nevertheless, we have to honor the King. Anyway, we'll

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<v S1>be right back with the mailbag. Trish is coming in.

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<v S1>She's dragging that mailbag right now, so stay with us.

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<v S1>This is open line with Michael Radnich. Welcome back to

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<v S1>is Tricia McMillan. I always, I assume, like, everyone knows

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<v S1>who Eva is, that they know who Tricia is. It's

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<v S1>Tricia McMillan, producer of the mailbag. And, uh, everyone, they say,

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<v S1>who's this Eva he's talking about all the time? That's

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<v S1>my wife. Yeah. So she's the one that texts me

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<v S1>the answers when people write. Yeah. So, anyway, uh, I'm

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<v S1>grateful that you put these, uh, questions together. The best

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<v S1>And you had some update for me about the summit

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<v S1>opposing anti-Semitism.

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<v S6>I did so also on our website. There's that form

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<v S6>to fill out that emails me basically your question. It's

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<v S6>a little form with your question that you can fill out,

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<v S6>across the top of our website, which is Open Line

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<v S6>radio.org for that, um, summit on anti-Semitism conference on November 9th.

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<v S6>So you don't have to remember. You can remember the

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<v S6>other the other website you gave earlier works. But if

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<v S6>if you just can remember Open Line radio.org, click on,

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<v S1>That's great.

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<v S6>Thank you. Easy way to do that. Yeah.

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<v S1>You're welcome. That's great. Okay, so before we go to

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<v S1>the mailbag I have a mailbag question for you.

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<v S6>Oh, boy. Okay, okay.

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<v S1>Here's here's my question. Uh, we even I did a

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<v S1>bunch of Bible study moments for the summer. Yes. Have

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<v S1>you been listening to them?

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<v S6>I mean, I was there when we recorded, I mean,

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<v S6>right when it was written.

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<v S1>Yeah, yeah, not not when they were sent out. But

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<v S1>we were there about the covenants And I think that

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<v S1>sometimes people, uh, don't understand that the covenants really are

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<v S1>the backbone of the scriptures. And, uh, I think it

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<v S1>was a really a fun time for me to go

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<v S1>through the covenants of the Bible for the Bible study moments.

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<v S1>And that's what made made me think of you being there.

0:28:47.950 --> 0:28:49.479
<v S1>And we were talking about it and it was so

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<v S1>much fun. And then I thought, well, how do you

0:28:52.630 --> 0:28:56.320
<v S1>get those Bible study moments? Well, become a kitchen table partner.

0:28:56.500 --> 0:28:58.150
<v S1>That's one of the things that we do for our

0:28:58.150 --> 0:29:01.780
<v S1>kitchen table partners. People who partner with this ministry by

0:29:01.780 --> 0:29:04.090
<v S1>giving monthly. One of the ways we say thank you

0:29:04.090 --> 0:29:07.630
<v S1>is sending every other week a Bible study moment, uh,

0:29:07.630 --> 0:29:11.260
<v S1>about a particular topic usually. But we're doing the covenants

0:29:11.260 --> 0:29:14.410
<v S1>this summer and that's that's been kind of fun to

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<v S1>do and I so appreciate it. And now what's the

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<v S1>best thing I think about being a kitchen table partner?

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<v S6>Oh, there are lots of great things.

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<v S1>Well, I'll tell you the. Well, of course I.

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<v S6>What do you think is the.

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<v S1>Best thing to get if a person commits to $30

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:35.070
<v S1>a month, which I'm so grateful for everyone that does this.

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:38.820
<v S1>But if they do, then they get half off of

0:29:38.820 --> 0:29:42.870
<v S1>everything in a moody publishers catalog. And, you know, I

0:29:42.870 --> 0:29:45.600
<v S1>just think that school's coming up. You know, people are

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.700
<v S1>getting back to school. There might be books they need

0:29:47.700 --> 0:29:50.910
<v S1>to get and things like that. And so I think

0:29:50.910 --> 0:29:53.130
<v S1>that that's one of the coolest things to about being

0:29:53.130 --> 0:29:55.770
<v S1>a kitchen table partner and has nothing to do with me. It's.

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<v S1>So and.

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<v S6>It's everything. It's kids books, it's Bibles. It's the Moody

0:30:01.290 --> 0:30:04.380
<v S6>Bible Commentary, which we talk about frequently because we think

0:30:04.380 --> 0:30:05.550
<v S6>that's a valuable tool.

0:30:05.550 --> 0:30:06.450
<v S1>Yep, that's exactly.

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<v S6>All of the things. But I do want to say

0:30:08.220 --> 0:30:12.390
<v S6>if if you're wondering about those, uh, the covenant series,

0:30:12.390 --> 0:30:16.500
<v S6>we are exactly halfway through. We did ten of those

0:30:16.500 --> 0:30:19.980
<v S6>recordings on the covenants because there are five covenants. We

0:30:19.980 --> 0:30:23.310
<v S6>are we just did the. So we've covered so far

0:30:23.310 --> 0:30:26.160
<v S6>the Abrahamic Covenant. There were two parts to that the

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.620
<v S6>mosaic covenant, two parts to that we just sent out

0:30:28.620 --> 0:30:32.960
<v S6>on Thursday two days ago, The, uh, first part of

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.170
<v S6>the land covenant. So there are five left. If you

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<v S6>join now and you're like, oh no, I missed them.

0:30:38.420 --> 0:30:40.610
<v S6>You can go back. There's a link on your email.

0:30:40.610 --> 0:30:42.590
<v S6>You can go back and listen to the ones you've missed.

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<v S6>Oh that's great. Yeah. So so even if you became

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<v S6>one do that so.

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<v S1>I can see what I said because I don't remember. Yeah.

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<v S6>No they're really good. They are really good and very helpful.

0:30:51.170 --> 0:30:54.380
<v S6>Especially in light of what's happening, um, in Israel right now.

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<v S6>Like just wondering which parts of these are still valid

0:30:57.740 --> 0:31:02.780
<v S6>and still promised that God will keep his promises to Israel?

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<v S1>You know, people always ask me about the covenants and

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<v S1>I say, If God's not faithful to his covenants with Israel,

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<v S1>then we're on a slippery slope because he's made a

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<v S1>covenant of redemption with us. He's he's, you know, and

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.770
<v S1>if he can break that, the word that he's made

0:31:15.770 --> 0:31:17.900
<v S1>in the past, then he can break the word he's

0:31:17.900 --> 0:31:20.990
<v S1>made with us, and he won't. He's faithful. Yeah. So, yeah. Okay.

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<v S1>So how do you become a kitchen table partner? All

0:31:22.730 --> 0:31:25.940
<v S1>you have to do is go to Openline radio org.

0:31:25.940 --> 0:31:32.000
<v S1>There's a link there for that. Or you can call (888) 644-7122.

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.960
<v S1>And uh uh okay. We might as well answer questions

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<v S1>since that's what we're supposed.

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<v S6>To do, right? Our first question is from Deborah in Alabama,

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<v S6>listens to Ww.w, uh, in Second Chronicles 25, verse 24,

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<v S6>Obed edom is mentioned. So it says, he took all

0:31:50.300 --> 0:31:53.180
<v S6>the gold, silver, all the utensils that were found with

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<v S6>Obed edom in God's temple, the treasures of the king's palace,

0:31:56.270 --> 0:31:59.840
<v S6>and the hostages. Then he returned to Samaria, and she

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<v S6>remembered that in second Samuel the ark of the covenant

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<v S6>is taken to Obed edom in a failed attempt to

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<v S6>bring it to Jerusalem. It says the Ark of the

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<v S6>Lord remained in his house three months, and the Lord

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<v S6>blessed Obed-edom and his whole family. Mhm. Are those two connected?

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<v S1>Well, think about this in second Samuel six. That's when

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<v S1>is that taking place? That's taking place when David is

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<v S1>first king of Israel. Right. So let's put that about

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<v S1>1000 BC and then, uh, in Second Chronicles 25, it's

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<v S1>talking about the captivity. And so, so that's hundreds of

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<v S1>years later. So it's just the same name, not the

0:32:44.500 --> 0:32:46.960
<v S1>same person. Okay. That's it.

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<v S6>All right. So with that, some sometimes. Hmm.

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<v S1>Sometimes we think it's just like this.

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<v S6>It's a very unique name.

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<v S1>Listen, I know it's a unique name to us. Yes. Uh, however,

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<v S1>not in the ancient Near East. It was not a

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<v S1>unique name. It means, uh, servant of Edam, of Edam. And, uh, no,

0:33:08.490 --> 0:33:10.800
<v S1>it wasn't a unique, unique name. Think about it. We

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<v S1>our our second president of the United States, John Adams. Right.

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<v S1>And then.

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<v S6>Of course, his son, John Quincy Adams.

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<v S1>Right. And then, of course, later on, if we didn't

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<v S1>have last names, think about this. John Fitzgerald. Kennedy. John.

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<v S1>Another John, is that the same president? No, no, it's

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<v S1>hundreds of years later. Right.

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<v S6>So okay, so similarly, though I think we we run

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<v S6>into similar names like this. And I think it causes

0:33:36.510 --> 0:33:39.150
<v S6>us confusion when we're studying but can also drive us

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<v S6>to deeper study. So Deb also, um, in Alabama went

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<v S6>to know of King Artaxerxes in Ezra is the same

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<v S6>one who was Esther's king?

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<v S1>Well, actually Esther's king was Ahasuerus or Xerxes, not Artaxerxes. Uh,

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<v S1>there were I think she got the question wrong. I

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<v S1>think she meant, uh, is the king Artaxerxes in Ezra

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<v S1>the same king Artaxerxes in Nehemiah? Okay. And and yes,

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<v S1>it is the same one in both Ezra and Nehemiah.

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<v S1>In fact, in the Hebrew Bible, it's one book.

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<v S6>Ezra and Nehemiah are one book.

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<v S1>Yeah.

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<v S6>Okay, so then it would be referring to the same person. Exactly.

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:24.620
<v S1>Uh, the Xerxes, who is an Esther, was king from

0:34:24.620 --> 0:34:30.680
<v S1>485 to 465 BC. And then Artaxerxes. Xerxes, who is

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:34.890
<v S1>Artaxerxes who is king in Ezra and Nehemiah is king

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<v S1>from 464 to 424 BC.

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<v S6>Okay, I think the same thing happens with Herod, because

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<v S6>Herod or Caesar, you know, like you can take it

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<v S6>out of the Bible, like there are these, these titles,

0:34:47.969 --> 0:34:51.300
<v S6>these titles that get used and there's Herod. It's like, well,

0:34:51.300 --> 0:34:53.279
<v S6>which Herod is this? Is this Herod the Great or

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<v S6>Herod Agrippa, or, you know, and it and to us

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:00.200
<v S6>who are not used to these titles and don't have

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<v S6>a chronology in front of us, of of when something

0:35:04.250 --> 0:35:07.549
<v S6>is happening in the Bible, we don't it's harder for

0:35:07.550 --> 0:35:10.250
<v S6>us to, to keep in mind when it's happening, because

0:35:10.250 --> 0:35:12.710
<v S6>it's all in the past and we don't have this

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<v S6>in our head. So what is a good place to know? Um,

0:35:15.650 --> 0:35:18.440
<v S6>like you just rattled off these years, I wouldn't have

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.020
<v S6>been able to say that. And I realize you had

0:35:20.020 --> 0:35:21.670
<v S6>the questions ahead of time. You may have looked it up,

0:35:21.670 --> 0:35:24.910
<v S6>but where would I even look that up to know

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.460
<v S6>that they're not even alive? At the same time.

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<v S1>I think there's a really helpful tool that everyone should

0:35:29.950 --> 0:35:32.589
<v S1>have along with their moody Bible commentary. And that's the

0:35:32.590 --> 0:35:36.759
<v S1>Unger's Bible Dictionary. Uh, that would be a helpful tool

0:35:36.790 --> 0:35:40.660
<v S1>because you could look up Xerxes, you could look up Artaxerxes,

0:35:40.660 --> 0:35:44.470
<v S1>you can look up Ahasuerus, you can look up Obed-edom.

0:35:44.469 --> 0:35:47.200
<v S1>You can look up Herod, Herod the Great.

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<v S6>Herod Agrippa, the years that they.

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<v S1>It'll give you a little biography. Okay. Of each of

0:35:51.550 --> 0:35:52.270
<v S1>these it works.

0:35:52.270 --> 0:35:55.150
<v S6>Like a regular dictionary. Well, instead of a definition, it's.

0:35:55.150 --> 0:35:57.670
<v S1>Like a little. It's a handbook or more of a

0:35:57.670 --> 0:36:01.060
<v S1>Bible dictionary, which is it's doesn't define the words so

0:36:01.060 --> 0:36:02.680
<v S1>much as it gives you a.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.630
<v S6>Little summary of summary, who or what this was.

0:36:04.660 --> 0:36:06.490
<v S1>It's like a mini encyclopedia. Okay.

0:36:06.489 --> 0:36:08.100
<v S6>But it's called Unger's Bible Dictionary.

0:36:08.100 --> 0:36:11.070
<v S1>Yeah, and it's by Moody Publishers. And, uh, if a

0:36:11.070 --> 0:36:15.419
<v S1>person is a kitchen table partner for $30 a month

0:36:15.420 --> 0:36:16.799
<v S1>or more, they can get it for half off.

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:17.549
<v S6>That's a great.

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<v S1>Yeah, it's a great tool. Okay. You know, one of

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<v S1>the when I came to Moody Bible Institute 50 years

0:36:23.310 --> 0:36:25.320
<v S1>ago this month.

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<v S6>Wow.

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<v S1>50 years ago. And I was I was just an

0:36:30.030 --> 0:36:33.510
<v S1>infant at the time, But, uh, when I came here,

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.610
<v S1>the man who discipled me, Dan Rigney, now with the Lord, uh,

0:36:38.610 --> 0:36:43.560
<v S1>the Irish rabbi, uh, he he gave me three books

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:47.040
<v S1>for my time at Moody, uh, a Wycliffe Bible Commentary,

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.380
<v S1>which is still available, but pretty much the Moody Bible

0:36:49.380 --> 0:36:53.970
<v S1>commentaries replaced, and then the Wycliffe Bible Commentary and Unger's

0:36:53.969 --> 0:36:58.560
<v S1>Bible Dictionary and a Unger's Bible Handbook. And really, when

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:00.630
<v S1>I first started at Moody to study the Bible in

0:37:00.630 --> 0:37:04.440
<v S1>a more, um, serious way than I had for the

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.330
<v S1>two years I had known the Lord before I came

0:37:06.330 --> 0:37:09.270
<v S1>to Moody. Uh, those were the three books that guided

0:37:09.270 --> 0:37:13.770
<v S1>me through everything. And and they're still, to this day,

0:37:13.770 --> 0:37:16.770
<v S1>a one volume commentary, like the Moody Bible Commentary and

0:37:16.770 --> 0:37:19.350
<v S1>the Unger's Bible Handbook. And the Unger's Bible Dictionary will

0:37:19.350 --> 0:37:22.339
<v S1>get a person real far. Mm. Uh, if if that's

0:37:22.340 --> 0:37:24.920
<v S1>what they're interested in studying in terms of the scriptures.

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:25.160
<v S1>All right.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:30.200
<v S6>So if you just need some basic, basic Bible resource books. Yeah,

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:31.250
<v S6>that's a good place to start.

0:37:31.250 --> 0:37:33.890
<v S1>Those are a great place to start. All right. Thank you. Well,

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<v S1>that's a lot of fun. Tricia. Come back. There's more questions.

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<v S1>I'll try and answer more next time. Uh. All right. Okay.

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<v S1>Next hour. Uh, that was Tricia McMillan. I'm Michael Redlick.

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<v S1>We'll be right back with more of your questions. Uh,

0:37:46.130 --> 0:37:48.590
<v S1>right here on Open Line. In fact, we're going to

0:37:48.590 --> 0:37:52.040
<v S1>try and get to a whole bunch of them real quick. So, uh,

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.520
<v S1>don't don't hang up. Stay with us. We're coming right back.

0:38:05.780 --> 0:38:08.630
<v S1>Welcome back to Open Line. So glad to be with

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<v S1>you this morning. We're going to go right to the

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<v S1>phones and we're going to talk to Femi in Florida.

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<v S1>Did I say your name right? Femi.

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<v S7>Yes you did.

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<v S1>Good. Well how can I help you? Good morning. Good morning.

0:38:25.550 --> 0:38:30.259
<v S7>Yes. Good morning. Um, I have a question about how

0:38:30.260 --> 0:38:34.810
<v S7>that consecutive verbs are translated in Genesis 219. Some translations

0:38:34.810 --> 0:38:38.080
<v S7>have it as imperfect tense, which has fuelled animals created

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.800
<v S7>after Adam, and other types of pluperfect, which has those

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:45.520
<v S7>animals created before Adam. If it's pluperfect, how do we

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:46.239
<v S7>determine that?

0:38:46.270 --> 0:38:52.600
<v S1>Okay, so no one understands your question. I mean, I do, but, uh,

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:57.069
<v S1>but no one understands your question. So, Lord God formed

0:38:57.070 --> 0:38:59.950
<v S1>out of the ground every wild animal and every bird

0:38:59.950 --> 0:39:02.410
<v S1>of the sky, and brought each to the man to

0:39:02.410 --> 0:39:08.410
<v S1>see what he would call it. Uh, the question here is,

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<v S1>it's that would seem to contradict, uh, the, uh, the

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<v S1>the sixth day of creation in, uh, uh, the chapter one. Uh,

0:39:26.620 --> 0:39:29.859
<v S1>I think that it should be I think the, the

0:39:29.860 --> 0:39:33.490
<v S1>vav consecutive is irrelevant. It's the word so but it

0:39:33.489 --> 0:39:39.160
<v S1>really is, uh, the the tense, uh, how do we

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:43.770
<v S1>translate it? It should be. So the Lord God who

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<v S1>had formed out of the ground pluperfect, every wild animal

0:39:47.460 --> 0:39:51.150
<v S1>and every bird of the sky, now brought them to

0:39:51.150 --> 0:39:54.180
<v S1>Adam to name. That's how I think it. And that's

0:39:54.180 --> 0:40:02.489
<v S1>a perfectly reasonable way of translating that verse with that verb. Uh,

0:40:02.489 --> 0:40:06.060
<v S1>and it makes sense in light of the previous chapter,

0:40:06.060 --> 0:40:09.510
<v S1>that that's when God, he had already created them. But

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<v S1>now he brought them to Adam to name. Okay. Is

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<v S1>that is that not good?

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<v S7>I mean, I still have more questions.

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<v S1>Well, Femi, Femi, I think we're going to move on, uh,

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<v S1>to because we've got a bunch of callers here that

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<v S1>need to talk with me. But thanks for your question. Uh,

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<v S1>we're going to talk to Shirley now in Florida, listening

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<v S1>on Wmbb. Welcome to Open Line. Shirley. How can I

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<v S1>help you?

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<v S8>Hello, doctor. Thank you so much for taking my call.

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<v S8>I really appreciate listening to you. Um, so my question

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<v S8>is regarding prayer. I, you know, I use the Lord's

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<v S8>Prayer as my guide, um, in praying, you know, and

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<v S8>obviously I pray I change changed the words depending on

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<v S8>whatever the needs are or whatever I want to be

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<v S8>thankful for. But, um, I address it always to father

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<v S8>in heaven, you know, my father, God in heaven. And

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<v S8>I'm confused because sometimes I'm at church and some of

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<v S8>the praises or some of the songs like, you know,

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<v S8>some of the songs are like prayers, right?

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<v S9>Mhm.

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<v S8>So I'm like thinking, okay, we're, you know, I'm singing

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<v S8>this song, I'm praying this song. And then all of

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<v S8>a sudden they'll, they'll call Jesus father or, or when

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<v S8>they're praying, they're praying, you know, like to Jesus and um,

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<v S8>or they're starting, they'll start praying to God first, God

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<v S8>in heaven, our father in heaven. And then down the line.

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<v S1>They start addressing the Lord Jesus. Right?

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<v S8>Or they start. You know, addressing the whole prayer to Jesus. Yeah. Now,

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<v S8>I always pray in the name of Jesus. In the end,

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<v S8>I always pray that.

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<v S1>Okay, okay, so so surely let me let me see

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<v S1>if I can answer your concern. First of all, I

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<v S1>think that people aren't. They just think they're praying to

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<v S1>God and they know that Jesus is God and they

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<v S1>get kind of, uh, confused about the triune nature of God.

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<v S1>I don't think God is up there saying, uh, no,

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<v S1>not going to answer this prayer because, uh, you're not

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<v S1>getting it exactly right. I think God's a lot more

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<v S1>tolerant with us than than than we would think because, uh,

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<v S1>he cares about us. And just like, you know, my

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<v S1>grandkids come up and they talk to me, and they.

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<v S1>They call me papi, and, uh, they they will sometimes

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<v S1>then automatically, without even looking at it, look over at

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<v S1>their Nana Eva and talk with them. And we're pretty

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<v S1>tolerant with our grandkids because we love them so much.

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<v S1>And so I think God's just as tolerant with us

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<v S1>when we pray. Second, uh, and this is important, I think,

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<v S1>that we should be more conscious of how to pray

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<v S1>according to the scriptures. Uh, there's only one example in

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<v S1>Scripture of someone addressing the Lord Jesus after he has

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<v S1>ascended to heaven. And that's when Stephen is being martyred.

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<v S1>He says, Lord Jesus, into your hands I commit my spirit.

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<v S1>That's the only prayer that we have directed to the

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<v S1>Lord Jesus. That's perfect. It shows it's okay, but it's

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<v S1>not the norm. The Lord Jesus taught us to pray.

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<v S1>We should pray to the father in the name of

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<v S1>the son, by the power of the Holy Spirit, by

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<v S1>the guidance of the Holy Spirit. That's that's how we

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<v S1>should pray. And, you know, I think that's a pretty

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<v S1>important thing. And we should be more careful. Although God's tolerant,

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<v S1>if we could be more careful when we pray, recognizing

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<v S1>we're coming to the father boldly by the throne of

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<v S1>to his throne of grace, because we're coming in the

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<v S1>name of Jesus. That's that's what I would say. Uh,

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<v S1>so there, there you have that. Okay. That's what I

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<v S1>would suggest. Does that help at all?

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<v S9>Yes.

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<v S8>It's very helpful. Now my confusion is is it do

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<v S8>I call I mean, is it okay? Is it okay

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<v S8>when when people sometimes call Jesus father?

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<v S1>Well, he's spiritual father. You know, uh, some people base that.

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<v S1>I don't think it's the right translation. Some people base

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<v S1>that on Isaiah nine six because it says his name

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<v S1>shall be called Wonderful Counselor. Uh, and then it says

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<v S1>Everlasting Father. And so, in a sense, the Lord Jesus

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<v S1>is not the father in heaven, but he is our father. Uh,

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<v S1>in that sense, I think a better translation of Isaiah

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<v S1>nine six is father of eternity. He's the father of

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<v S1>all time. He's the creator of the universe. That's what

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<v S1>father means. Father of eternity. So that that's what. But

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<v S1>you know, the Lord Jesus said, I call you friend, right?

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<v S1>So some people might, uh, I knew I know of

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<v S1>a a man who came to the Lord on the

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<v S1>Mount of Olives in 1882, uh, a Jewish man, uh,

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<v S1>from Kishinev, and he read the Gospel of Matthew, looked

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<v S1>at it and said, this is our brother Jesus. And

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<v S1>he always prayed in the name of our brother Jesus. Uh. Uh.

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<v S1>That was what he did. Some people praying. The name

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<v S1>of our friend Jesus. What a friend we have in Jesus.

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<v S1>You know, uh, here's what I do. I pray in

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<v S1>the name of the Lord Jesus because he's my king. So, uh,

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<v S1>I'd rather recognize him as my sovereign, even though he

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<v S1>calls me friend, which that's kind of hard to believe. Uh,

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<v S1>I I, I, you know, I don't know how I

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<v S1>got in the habit of calling him Lord Jesus. Uh,

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<v S1>and and the or the Messiah Jesus, which is a

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<v S1>title of deity, uh, or kingship, I should say, uh, royalty.

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<v S1>But I think it goes back to 40 years or

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<v S1>so ago in graduate school. And I had a professor

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<v S1>who said, uh, Michael, don't be flippant when you talk

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<v S1>in the name of the Lord Jesus, call him Lord.

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<v S1>And that's, I think, crucial. Well, that's our our I

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<v S1>hope that helps. Uh, as we pray, uh, we're going

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