WEBVTT - Hour 2: Bible Questions in the New Year 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.960 Hello friends. It's time for the second hour of Open 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:16.640 Line with Doctor Michael Ray Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.759 We're talking about your questions about the Bible, God and 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.960 the spiritual life. My name is Michael Ray. I'm professor 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.239 of Jewish Studies and Bible, as well as the academic 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.000 dean at Moody Bible Institute. And we're live today sitting 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.159 around the radio kitchen table taking your questions. Now is 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:33.720 the time to give me a call. It's a great 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.800 time to call always at the beginning of the hour. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:43.360 The phone number here is (877) 548-3675. If you didn't get 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:51.040 that down, I'll say it again. (877) 548-3675. 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Well, 0:01:13.660 --> 0:01:15.820 I hope you have your Bibles open and the second 0:01:15.819 --> 0:01:19.580 cup of coffee, because we're ready to talk about the scriptures. 0:01:19.819 --> 0:01:22.580 And I did want to remind you, since I wasn't 0:01:22.580 --> 0:01:25.060 here with you live last week, that I really want 0:01:25.060 --> 0:01:30.300 to encourage you to read through the scriptures this upcoming 2025. 0:01:30.300 --> 0:01:34.860 And I there's a favorite reading program of mine. It's 0:01:34.860 --> 0:01:38.980 from Discipleship Journal. And the reason I really like this 0:01:38.980 --> 0:01:41.780 reading program. I'll give you my reasons for it. It's 0:01:41.780 --> 0:01:44.380 not actually, I'm doing a different one this year, but 0:01:44.380 --> 0:01:46.420 just because I'm trying it out. But through the years, 0:01:46.420 --> 0:01:48.700 I have found this one to be the most helpful. 0:01:48.740 --> 0:01:50.500 Here's what I like about it. First of all, it's 0:01:50.500 --> 0:01:55.700 only 25 days a month, 25 days a month. Which 0:01:55.700 --> 0:01:59.360 means that if you have, you can skip Sundays if 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.480 you want. Or Saturdays or whatever day you go to services. Uh, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.560 the other thing that you could do is if you 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.040 just fall behind and don't get a day in, uh, 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.040 it's not the end of the world. You don't. You know, 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.840 what I find is that people, if they don't read 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.720 every day and they miss two days, the next thing 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.560 you know, they're so backed up, they drop the program. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:22.270 This gives you 25 days out of usually 30 or 0:02:22.270 --> 0:02:25.760 31 days in a month. So that's really helpful. Secondly, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.280 it's only about 20 minutes a day. And I think that's, 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.360 you know, we we waste 20 minutes every day doing 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.720 all sorts of things. This is a good investment of 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:39.160 20 minutes every day. The other aspect of this discipleship 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.160 Journal reading program that I really like is it has 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.640 two Old Testament passages and two New Testament passages. And 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.320 so every day you're reading both old and new. Uh, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.600 and so you're not just starting in Genesis, because I 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.359 find what happens is people who try to read through 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.540 the Bible in a In a year they will. Very 0:02:58.540 --> 0:03:08.700 often they'll say that they will start in Genesis. Okay. 0:03:08.700 --> 0:03:10.940 They get about halfway through Exodus and they are starting 0:03:10.940 --> 0:03:16.420 to read the commandments about putting together the tabernacle. And 0:03:16.419 --> 0:03:18.940 next thing you know, they're like, oh boy, I'm losing this. 0:03:18.940 --> 0:03:21.700 And then they get to when they finally get to Leviticus, 0:03:21.700 --> 0:03:24.220 they just throw up their hands and they're gone. But 0:03:24.980 --> 0:03:29.500 this way you're reading across the Bible for the whole time. 0:03:29.500 --> 0:03:30.980 And so I really want to encourage you. I think 0:03:30.980 --> 0:03:33.179 it's one of the best things we can do for 0:03:33.180 --> 0:03:36.420 our understanding of Scripture and the transformation of our lives. 0:03:36.420 --> 0:03:40.060 So really, any any way you want to read through 0:03:40.060 --> 0:03:41.900 the Bible in a year, that's great. But I find 0:03:41.900 --> 0:03:47.100 that this Discipleship Journal reading program very, very helpful. And 0:03:47.100 --> 0:03:49.980 so we've posted it on our Facebook page. You can 0:03:49.980 --> 0:03:52.860 download it and use it. I think it's a great thing, 0:03:52.860 --> 0:03:55.020 even if you're a little behind now it's you know, 0:03:55.060 --> 0:03:57.450 we're ten days in, but remember, this has only got 0:03:57.450 --> 0:03:59.610 25 days, so you can pick it up, read a 0:03:59.610 --> 0:04:01.890 couple of days every day for the next couple of 0:04:02.250 --> 0:04:04.650 couple of weeks, and you'll be right on time. It's 0:04:04.650 --> 0:04:07.090 a great program. We're going to go back to the 0:04:07.090 --> 0:04:10.570 phones now and talk to Tina in Covington, Indiana, listening 0:04:10.570 --> 0:04:14.610 on Wfor. Welcome to Open Line, Tina. How can I 0:04:14.610 --> 0:04:15.370 help you today? 0:04:16.010 --> 0:04:18.529 Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking my call. Sure. 0:04:18.570 --> 0:04:21.930 I have a couple verses in Second Kings that I'm 0:04:21.930 --> 0:04:27.810 struggling with. Um, the first one is Second Kings 117. 0:04:28.250 --> 0:04:32.010 The next one is second Kings 816. And I'm just 0:04:32.010 --> 0:04:36.690 trying to understand the timeline of when these kings came 0:04:36.690 --> 0:04:39.210 into place, because it seems a little contradictory. 0:04:40.089 --> 0:04:43.730 What's your your problem with what's contradictory? 0:04:44.170 --> 0:04:48.170 In Second Kings 117 it says, and please, I'm probably 0:04:48.170 --> 0:04:51.690 going to butcher these names. But, um, Jehoram became king 0:04:51.730 --> 0:04:57.350 of Israel the second year of Jehoram, king of Judah. 0:04:58.470 --> 0:05:04.469 Then in second Kings 816 it says Jehoram reigns in Judah, 0:05:04.470 --> 0:05:08.550 the fifth year of Joram, King of Israel. So I'm 0:05:08.589 --> 0:05:10.830 not sure which one came first. I'm just trying to 0:05:10.830 --> 0:05:13.469 do a timeline so I have a better understanding of 0:05:13.830 --> 0:05:14.670 the Kings. 0:05:14.870 --> 0:05:18.990 Mhm. Okay. So you do know that they're both they're 0:05:18.990 --> 0:05:24.350 two different kings. Yes. Yeah. And they both have the 0:05:24.350 --> 0:05:31.070 same name. Yes. Right. And uh, so Jehoram in Judah 0:05:31.150 --> 0:05:42.950 reigned from 848 to 841. Okay. For eight years. And, uh, then, uh, 0:05:42.950 --> 0:05:47.550 the other Jehoram. Uh, I'm looking for him on my 0:05:47.830 --> 0:05:53.610 chart here. Uh, reign from 852 to 841, in the 0:05:53.610 --> 0:05:54.490 Northern Kingdom. 0:05:55.410 --> 0:05:58.210 Okay. And that's Israel, right? Yeah. Okay. 0:05:58.850 --> 0:06:02.169 So there you have it. Those are the. By the way, 0:06:02.170 --> 0:06:06.810 I keep this chart on the kings of Israel that 0:06:06.810 --> 0:06:12.370 I photocopied, I think, from the the Ryrie Study Bible. 0:06:12.410 --> 0:06:15.729 I just I just photocopied it and I stuck it 0:06:15.730 --> 0:06:18.970 in my Bible. So I don't get so confused because 0:06:18.970 --> 0:06:22.450 I can't remember all these dates. I'm pretty good at dates, 0:06:22.450 --> 0:06:25.130 but all these kings dates, I just can't. I can't 0:06:25.130 --> 0:06:27.170 figure it out. So it's got Judah and his. I 0:06:27.170 --> 0:06:27.730 was wondering. 0:06:27.730 --> 0:06:30.010 Where you got those dates because I didn't know where 0:06:30.010 --> 0:06:30.690 to find them. 0:06:30.810 --> 0:06:33.570 Yeah, yeah. Again, you know, a book I mentioned in 0:06:33.570 --> 0:06:36.850 the first hour that's a really helpful book is called 0:06:36.850 --> 0:06:39.690 A History of Israel by Leon Wood. And it has 0:06:39.690 --> 0:06:43.770 it has all these kinds of things in it. Another 0:06:43.770 --> 0:06:48.090 thing there is a book by Thiele. Uh, t h 0:06:48.130 --> 0:06:50.770 I e l e that was his last name. I 0:06:50.770 --> 0:06:54.030 don't remember his first name. called the mysterious numbers of 0:06:54.029 --> 0:06:57.150 the Hebrew kings or the Israelite kings or something like that. 0:06:57.150 --> 0:07:00.909 And it it's sort of a harmony and explanation of, 0:07:00.950 --> 0:07:03.950 you know, where there were, uh, you know, sometimes a 0:07:03.950 --> 0:07:06.190 king would make his son king and there'd be a 0:07:06.230 --> 0:07:09.470 dual monarchy at the same time. There was overlap this 0:07:09.470 --> 0:07:13.550 way in their kingships. And so he harmonizes all the 0:07:13.550 --> 0:07:17.510 the numbers of the Hebrew kings in the, in the 0:07:17.510 --> 0:07:21.550 Hebrew Bible. Uh, Thiel. The mysterious numbers of the Hebrew kings. 0:07:21.550 --> 0:07:22.910 I think it is so. 0:07:22.910 --> 0:07:23.710 Okay. Thank you. 0:07:23.870 --> 0:07:29.110 Okay, sure. Uh, well, thanks for your call, Tina. We're 0:07:29.110 --> 0:07:33.670 going to talk to Mary Lynn in Seville, Ohio, listening 0:07:33.670 --> 0:07:35.910 on the app. Welcome to Open Line. Mary Lynn. How 0:07:35.910 --> 0:07:36.950 can I help you today? 0:07:38.070 --> 0:07:40.990 Good morning. Thank you for taking my call. And I 0:07:41.030 --> 0:07:43.950 am reading through the Bible, and I have a couple 0:07:43.990 --> 0:07:53.050 of questions from the beginning. Um, why is not Why isn't, um, 0:07:53.050 --> 0:07:57.290 Eve credited with the first sin since she's the one 0:07:57.290 --> 0:07:58.970 that ate the fruit? 0:08:00.010 --> 0:08:05.250 Ah, well, there's a couple reasons, but I think, simply put, 0:08:05.370 --> 0:08:09.410 Adam was considered the head of the household, and they 0:08:09.410 --> 0:08:14.130 ate the fruit together. And so, uh, Adam was there 0:08:14.130 --> 0:08:15.850 with her. It says it right in the text. He 0:08:15.850 --> 0:08:18.930 was there. He was there right with her. What Adam 0:08:18.930 --> 0:08:21.290 was able to do is say, hey, cut this out. 0:08:21.330 --> 0:08:25.930 Don't talk to this snake. Uh, and, uh, I'm he 0:08:25.930 --> 0:08:29.730 was the spiritual head of this situation, and he acquiesced 0:08:29.730 --> 0:08:32.890 instead of stopping it. And so he was responsible. 0:08:33.809 --> 0:08:38.130 Okay. Okay. And then the fact that she misquoted what 0:08:38.170 --> 0:08:41.530 God had said, that you can't even touch the tree 0:08:41.530 --> 0:08:44.449 of life. Why wouldn't that be the first sin? 0:08:45.850 --> 0:08:49.010 Uh, I think it's because the command that God gave was. 0:08:49.010 --> 0:08:52.110 Don't eat of this tree. And that was the first. 0:08:52.230 --> 0:08:58.870 The first sin was breaking the direct command of God. Okay, okay. 0:08:58.910 --> 0:08:59.510 All right. 0:08:59.830 --> 0:09:00.590 Good. Okay. 0:09:00.630 --> 0:09:02.750 So is that so. 0:09:02.750 --> 0:09:06.030 Important that I just had wondered about it? 0:09:06.070 --> 0:09:09.430 Yeah. You know, and it talks about you know, I 0:09:09.429 --> 0:09:12.390 want to be really clear in Romans five, there was 0:09:12.390 --> 0:09:15.230 a there was once a theologian who said his name 0:09:15.230 --> 0:09:17.870 was Hodge said that you could tell if someone's a 0:09:17.870 --> 0:09:20.990 real theologian is if when you look at their Bible 0:09:21.070 --> 0:09:24.710 or their Greek New Testament, it just opens immediately to 0:09:24.750 --> 0:09:27.710 Romans five, which I think is funny, like if you 0:09:27.750 --> 0:09:32.310 held it and now mine doesn't do that. So we 0:09:32.309 --> 0:09:35.150 can tell I am not a real theologian or scholar, 0:09:35.150 --> 0:09:39.150 but nevertheless it is an important passage because it talks 0:09:39.150 --> 0:09:44.110 about that everyone sinned in Adam and it says because 0:09:44.110 --> 0:09:48.309 of that death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over 0:09:48.450 --> 0:09:53.530 those who did not sin in the likeness of Adam's transgression. 0:09:53.890 --> 0:09:57.370 But then it talks about the gift is not like 0:09:57.370 --> 0:10:00.770 the trespass. For by if by one man's trespass the 0:10:00.770 --> 0:10:05.370 many died. How much more have the grace and gift 0:10:05.370 --> 0:10:09.650 overflowed to the many? By the grace of the one man, 0:10:09.690 --> 0:10:15.290 Jesus the Messiah. That's Romans 515. Uh, and what it's 0:10:15.290 --> 0:10:19.450 saying is that that through one trespass, there is no 0:10:19.450 --> 0:10:24.770 condemnation as as through one trespass there is condemnation for everyone. 0:10:24.770 --> 0:10:29.210 So also through one righteous act, there's life giving justification, 0:10:29.210 --> 0:10:33.170 if we will trust that Jesus died for our sins 0:10:33.170 --> 0:10:37.770 and rose again. If we trust in the perfect one, 0:10:37.770 --> 0:10:45.050 then what will happen is that, uh, we can experience 0:10:45.050 --> 0:10:49.190 God's grace, his forgiveness. So I know it's often that 0:10:49.190 --> 0:10:51.069 we want to think about Adam and Eve and their 0:10:51.110 --> 0:10:54.590 their failure. We want to think about, uh, you know, 0:10:54.630 --> 0:10:58.550 how we all became sinners because of that. But let's 0:10:58.550 --> 0:11:00.830 not forget the opportunity for all to put their trust 0:11:00.830 --> 0:11:04.670 in Jesus. And if we'll put our trust in Jesus, 0:11:04.670 --> 0:11:07.830 the second Adam who died for us and rose again, 0:11:07.830 --> 0:11:11.550 that's the that's the great opportunity for forgiveness and restoration 0:11:11.550 --> 0:11:14.429 to God. I think that's that's pretty cool to remember. 0:11:14.429 --> 0:11:18.150 That's what Paul was emphasizing in Romans five. Hey, thanks 0:11:18.150 --> 0:11:21.910 for your call, Marilyn, and thank you. We're going to 0:11:21.910 --> 0:11:25.750 come back in a moment with more of your questions 0:11:25.750 --> 0:11:32.949 right here on Open Line. The phone number is (877) 548-3675. 0:11:32.950 --> 0:11:35.470 You can call us with your question about the Bible, 0:11:35.470 --> 0:11:39.030 God or the spiritual life. Uh, glad to talk about it. 0:11:39.070 --> 0:11:41.470 We're having a great time on our Bible study across America. 0:11:41.510 --> 0:11:43.710 My name is Michael Ray. Dominic and I will be 0:11:43.710 --> 0:11:57.850 right back. 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I'm so glad to be studying 0:12:37.650 --> 0:12:42.290 the scriptures with you this morning and I really appreciate it. 0:12:42.330 --> 0:12:46.040 You know, I'm I'm amazed When I go out and 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:50.600 I meet with people who are at different moody events. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.920 For example, I went last month to Candlelight Carols, which 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.439 was a big event, and I just stood in the 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:00.400 Commons one evening and there were so many people there, 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.680 and they kept coming up to me and saying, I'm 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:07.280 a kitchen table partner and I appreciate it so much. 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:12.640 The reason is it says that they appreciate and value 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.320 what we're trying to do here, to bring a greater 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.000 understanding of the scriptures, and walking with the Lord to 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:22.360 people through studying the scriptures together, understanding God better, understanding 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.320 His word better, and most importantly, having our lives transformed. 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.480 One of the things about Open Line is I really believe. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.480 I don't think I'll get the quote exactly right, but 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.800 one of the things that D.L. Moody said is the 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:40.120 Bible wasn't given to inform us, but to transform us. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.080 And that's what I really believe about our time together. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.300 I together. I don't want just to improve our knowledge, 0:13:45.620 --> 0:13:50.700 but to actually transform all of our application of of 0:13:50.740 --> 0:13:53.940 that knowledge and our obedience to the scriptures and people 0:13:53.940 --> 0:13:56.819 who become kitchen table partners are saying, yeah, I agree 0:13:56.820 --> 0:14:00.219 with that goal, and I'm going to give monthly so 0:14:00.220 --> 0:14:03.420 that I can make sure that this keeps happening right 0:14:03.420 --> 0:14:05.980 here on Moody Radio. And if you're one of those 0:14:05.980 --> 0:14:08.819 people that feels that way, maybe you'd like to become 0:14:08.980 --> 0:14:10.980 a kitchen table partner and give monthly. One of the 0:14:10.980 --> 0:14:13.100 things that I do is every other week I'll send 0:14:13.100 --> 0:14:15.780 out a Bible study moment. It'll come in your email. 0:14:15.780 --> 0:14:18.740 You click on it. It's a Bible study designed exclusively 0:14:18.980 --> 0:14:21.700 for our kitchen table partners. If you'd like to become 0:14:21.700 --> 0:14:25.060 a kitchen table partner, we'd appreciate it so much. Just 0:14:25.060 --> 0:14:34.820 call (800) 864-4712 two. That's 86447122. Or potentially you can go 0:14:34.820 --> 0:14:36.980 to our website. If that's the way you'd prefer to 0:14:36.980 --> 0:14:41.020 do it. You can go to Open Line radio.org and 0:14:41.020 --> 0:14:43.800 click on the link there about Kitchen Table Partners and 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.240 we'll appreciate it so much. And we're going to talk 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:52.280 about uh, Delia. And we're going to talk to Delia 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:56.120 in Palm Beach, Florida listening on RMB. Welcome to Open Line. Delia. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.640 How can I help you? Is it Dalia or Dalia? 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.080 Dalia. Dalia. Dalia. You know, they wrote. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.120 They wrote it out phonetically for me as Dalia. And 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:06.720 I'm like. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:08.520 Huh, okay, I. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.240 Think it's Dalia, but. Okay. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:15.040 So God bless. Yeah. God bless you for taking my call. 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.440 I have a question, and I was corrected how to 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:26.800 phrase it. I told so often that, um, angels and 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:32.800 humans had relations, and they're where they are on the giants. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.880 The Netherlands came in, so I wanted to find out. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:40.720 What is your understanding? I know you are knowledgeable and 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.860 you will tell me just what I need to know. 0:15:43.220 --> 0:15:45.700 Well, I'll do my best to give you. Now, there 0:15:45.740 --> 0:15:47.660 are a lot of people who believe what you're saying, 0:15:48.300 --> 0:15:52.260 but I don't. I don't agree with that. In Genesis six, 0:15:52.260 --> 0:15:54.860 where it says mankind began to multiply on the earth 0:15:54.860 --> 0:15:58.300 and daughters were born to them, the sons of God. 0:15:58.300 --> 0:16:01.300 Some people say that those are fallen angels. The sons 0:16:01.300 --> 0:16:05.140 of God saw that the daughters of man were beautiful, 0:16:05.140 --> 0:16:09.140 and they took any they chose as wives for themselves. 0:16:10.940 --> 0:16:15.220 And so that's what they're talking about now. I, the 0:16:15.260 --> 0:16:22.740 sons of God, uh, can, uh, refer to angels they 0:16:22.740 --> 0:16:26.140 do in job 38. I think it is. Uh, it's 0:16:26.140 --> 0:16:29.420 there's no question that it's a possibility that Sons of 0:16:29.420 --> 0:16:34.180 God can mean that. However, it also can refer to 0:16:34.220 --> 0:16:37.060 something else. And the reason I think it's not angels 0:16:37.060 --> 0:16:40.760 is that in Matthew 2230, when the Lord Jesus talked 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.640 about us in our resurrected state, he said that we 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.960 will be like the angels and not marry or be 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.920 given in marriage. And so how is it that the 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.160 sons of God, if there are angels here, take wives 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:56.640 for themselves? That doesn't make any sense. So because angels 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.920 don't take wives. And so I would say that it's 0:16:59.920 --> 0:17:06.119 probably something else. And what you have here is, uh, 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:10.440 Genesis chapter four, you've got the line of Cain from 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:16.400 verse 17 to about 24. Uh, Genesis 417 through 24 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.480 is the line of Cain, the ungodly line. And then 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:25.600 you've got the godly line of Seth from Genesis 425 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.639 all the way to the end of chapter five. What's significant? 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.520 That's the context. And so I think the sons of 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:37.960 God refers to the ungodly. I'm sorry. The, uh, the 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.940 daughters of mankind were the ungodly line of Cain. The 0:17:41.940 --> 0:17:45.100 sons of God is the godly line of Seth. And 0:17:45.100 --> 0:17:48.780 so the sons of Seth, the godly ones, take daughters 0:17:48.780 --> 0:17:56.139 of mankind. The daughters of of Cain. And the two lines, uh, merge. 0:17:56.660 --> 0:18:00.060 And as a result, uh, and they chose anyone that 0:18:00.060 --> 0:18:03.020 they wanted, is what it said. Instead of being careful 0:18:03.020 --> 0:18:07.460 to marry godly women, they were choosing, choosing the ungodly line. 0:18:07.460 --> 0:18:10.900 And then they're the the product of their marriage were 0:18:10.900 --> 0:18:16.379 the Nephilim. Uh, some people think Nephilim means giants. But really, 0:18:16.420 --> 0:18:20.980 what Nephilim means are fallen ones. That's what the Hebrew 0:18:21.020 --> 0:18:24.580 word means. And so what happened is the descendants of the. 0:18:24.580 --> 0:18:29.740 The merged lines are people who are corrupted, fallen, and, uh, 0:18:29.740 --> 0:18:35.740 these fallen people became powerful on the Earth. Uh, had 0:18:35.740 --> 0:18:40.160 a powerful full negative influence, which leads to the flood. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.200 And that's why the flood has to come as a judgment. 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.560 Because God says he regretted making mankind because they had 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.400 become so corrupt. So I think that's what we have 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:53.320 happening in Genesis four five and six. I hope that 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.440 helps you, Dalia, and thanks for your call. We're going 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:00.160 to talk to Kathy in Brookfield, Illinois, listening on our 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.560 flagship station, Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line. How can I help? 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.439 And by the way, I have to ask you, uh, 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.080 we're just going to limit ourselves to one question. So 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.400 I see that it says you have two questions. Let's 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:15.440 stick to one question. Okay. Choose well. Choose the one 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.440 you want. Okay. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.800 Well, I have a I have a new international version 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:28.600 of the Bible. And it starts out at one, um, 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:35.800 Luke 126. In the sixth month, God sent, uh, Gabriel 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:39.790 Old an angel, Gabriel to Nazareth in the town of Galilee. Galilee. 0:19:40.430 --> 0:19:43.429 What is the sixth month in the Jewish calendar? 0:19:44.790 --> 0:19:50.590 It's not talking about the calendar. It says after. Look 0:19:50.630 --> 0:19:53.510 at verse 24. It says after. These days. His wife 0:19:53.550 --> 0:19:57.030 Elizabeth conceived and kept herself in seclusion for five months. 0:19:57.430 --> 0:19:59.710 The Lord has done this for me. He has looked down, 0:19:59.710 --> 0:20:02.190 looked with favor in these days. Take away my disgrace 0:20:02.190 --> 0:20:05.030 among the people. In the sixth month, the angel was 0:20:05.030 --> 0:20:08.270 sent by God to a town in Galilee. So what 0:20:08.270 --> 0:20:13.270 it's saying in the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy. 0:20:14.350 --> 0:20:19.350 Okay, okay, okay. That was okay. Yes. 0:20:19.390 --> 0:20:22.030 Context. Context. Context. Okay. Okay. 0:20:22.030 --> 0:20:26.390 I didn't I didn't go back because in another version, 0:20:26.510 --> 0:20:30.229 which was more a devotional version, it starts out at 0:20:30.230 --> 0:20:36.970 126 saying in Elizabeth's Of pregnancy. And so it was confusing. 0:20:37.090 --> 0:20:40.410 Yeah, yeah. Well, the one the second one was reading 0:20:40.410 --> 0:20:42.770 it in context and trying to clarify it for you. 0:20:42.890 --> 0:20:45.090 That's good. So. Okay. 0:20:45.290 --> 0:20:48.170 Okay. I just wasn't sure. And I know I can 0:20:48.170 --> 0:20:49.530 only ask one question, but. 0:20:49.570 --> 0:20:52.250 Yeah, but you call back another time with the second question. 0:20:52.730 --> 0:20:56.570 We're happy to do that. So. Yeah. Okay. Thanks so 0:20:56.570 --> 0:21:01.650 much for your call, Kathy. Really appreciate it. Okay. Bye bye. 0:21:01.690 --> 0:21:06.170 We're going to talk to Colleen in Caledonia, Illinois. Listen 0:21:06.170 --> 0:21:08.689 on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line. Colleen. How can I 0:21:08.690 --> 0:21:09.210 help you? 0:21:09.930 --> 0:21:14.210 Thanks, doctor. I wanted to say I appreciate your wise, 0:21:15.410 --> 0:21:17.850 your wise, whatever, and your peaceful voice. 0:21:18.050 --> 0:21:19.889 So my question is, um. 0:21:19.890 --> 0:21:20.490 You're welcome. 0:21:21.050 --> 0:21:26.650 So Proverbs ten um, three says, the Lord will not 0:21:26.650 --> 0:21:30.610 allow the righteous to hunger. And when I look at 0:21:30.609 --> 0:21:33.790 the world and see how many people are hungry, I'm wondering, 0:21:33.790 --> 0:21:35.590 how is that? How does that. 0:21:35.590 --> 0:21:42.229 Work? Well, I actually mentioned that in passing, in my 0:21:42.350 --> 0:21:46.390 opening word in the first hour. Oh, I was sleeping. Oh, okay. Well, 0:21:46.390 --> 0:21:50.550 you know, I'll set your alarm next week. Okay, good. No, 0:21:50.590 --> 0:21:57.070 I'm just joking. You. Okay. The, uh. What? Well, the 0:21:57.070 --> 0:22:01.390 opening word today was about, uh, Matthew 633. Seek first 0:22:01.390 --> 0:22:04.030 his kingdom and his righteousness and all these things, all 0:22:04.030 --> 0:22:08.990 these material, uh, gifts of clothing and food will be 0:22:08.990 --> 0:22:11.070 added to you. And, of course, I said there are 0:22:11.070 --> 0:22:16.550 some cases where the righteous are not, uh, will go 0:22:16.590 --> 0:22:20.230 hungry or be subject to exposure or not have enough clothes. 0:22:20.350 --> 0:22:23.430 That happens. And I would say that the rule in 0:22:23.430 --> 0:22:28.310 Matthew 633 and also here in, uh, Proverbs ten three 0:22:28.310 --> 0:22:30.510 is the Lord will not let the righteous go hungry. 0:22:30.750 --> 0:22:34.210 As a general rule, that's what the Book of Proverbs are, 0:22:34.210 --> 0:22:38.850 general rules. But there are exceptions. And the exception is 0:22:38.850 --> 0:22:42.570 this that there are times where God, for his glory 0:22:43.250 --> 0:22:47.129 and our good, he allows us to do without. Sometimes 0:22:47.130 --> 0:22:50.250 it brings greater glory to God to see someone faithful 0:22:50.410 --> 0:22:54.929 who is struggling and suffering in a situation without food. 0:22:54.930 --> 0:22:58.810 And what God does in those circumstances is he provides 0:22:58.810 --> 0:23:05.330 the spiritual enablement for them so that they can endure 0:23:05.490 --> 0:23:11.850 suffering with joy and with with, uh, with dependence on 0:23:11.850 --> 0:23:15.330 him through that. Uh, I think that that's the exception 0:23:15.450 --> 0:23:18.170 rather than the rule. The rule is that God provides 0:23:18.170 --> 0:23:22.210 our material needs. But when it does happen, uh, in 0:23:22.210 --> 0:23:24.570 places in the world where there are believers who are 0:23:24.570 --> 0:23:29.330 suffering hunger, it's, uh, God is making a special, uh, 0:23:29.330 --> 0:23:32.430 enablement for them to them to endure it well. Okay. 0:23:33.070 --> 0:23:36.390 Okay. And not believers is just. If they're not believers 0:23:36.869 --> 0:23:40.389 and they're they're hungry. Um, how do I respond to 0:23:40.430 --> 0:23:42.510 that as a Christian? But that might be a second question. 0:23:42.550 --> 0:23:47.350 No, no, that's that's a good follow up on that one. Uh, 0:23:47.350 --> 0:23:50.350 there's something that theologians called common grace. It's where it 0:23:50.350 --> 0:23:52.149 says that the Lord makes the sun to shine on 0:23:52.150 --> 0:23:54.470 both the just and the unjust, and he makes the 0:23:54.470 --> 0:23:56.950 rain to fall on both the just and the unjust. 0:23:56.990 --> 0:24:00.190 You know, and so there are people who are not 0:24:00.190 --> 0:24:04.629 believers who, you know, the whole farming system works. And, uh, 0:24:04.670 --> 0:24:08.030 God provides for everyone. That's called common grace. God is 0:24:08.030 --> 0:24:11.270 gracious to everyone and allows that to happen. However, the 0:24:11.270 --> 0:24:14.670 promise of provision in this verse in Proverbs ten three 0:24:14.670 --> 0:24:17.230 is that the Lord will not let the righteous go hungry. 0:24:17.630 --> 0:24:22.150 So it's specifically talking not about common grace there. It's 0:24:22.150 --> 0:24:25.230 talking about provision for the righteous. Okay. 0:24:25.390 --> 0:24:26.070 Thank you doctor. 0:24:26.630 --> 0:24:28.590 Oh, sure. Thanks so much for your call. I really 0:24:28.590 --> 0:24:33.609 appreciate it. Uh, and, uh, you know, I was going 0:24:33.609 --> 0:24:36.129 to talk to, uh, Jeanette, but we're going to have 0:24:36.130 --> 0:24:38.010 to wait on that. Jeanette. I hope you'll be able 0:24:38.010 --> 0:24:43.010 to hang on through. What's upcoming is our, uh, febc 0:24:43.050 --> 0:24:47.730 mailbag in the next segment. Uh, but, uh, we just 0:24:47.730 --> 0:24:49.490 don't have time to go to the phones in this 0:24:49.490 --> 0:24:51.330 time right now. 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Is that. 0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.600 What? Well, I was working on. Yes. It's been a 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.720 little crazier than normal today, so I was working on 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.679 getting the website up and the links up and all 0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.320 the things. So anyway. 0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:41.960 I'm glad you're here with us. So we're going to 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.000 go to the mailbag and see what people are asking. 0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.439 Yes. Well, we actually have had a couple people who 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.200 were not able to stay on. And so I'm asking 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:53.000 their questions. Our first question is from Penelope in Indiana, 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:57.960 listens to WNBA and she was looking at Isaiah 19, 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:04.200 verse 25. Um, major prophets. 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:05.520 I got it right here. I'll read. 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:06.159 It. Okay. 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.040 It says, uh, I'm going to go to verse 24. 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.119 On that day, Israel will form a triple alliance with 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:17.800 Egypt and Assyria, a blessing within the land of Egypt. 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.280 The Lord of hosts will bless them, saying, Egypt, my people, 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:27.060 Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance are blessed. So 0:28:27.460 --> 0:28:28.139 that's the verse. 0:28:28.300 --> 0:28:32.540 Okay. She wants to know, has that prophecy been fulfilled? 0:28:33.140 --> 0:28:40.140 Ah, well, Syria basically is up by part of Iraq. Uh, 0:28:40.140 --> 0:28:46.020 there are Assyrian Christians up there in Iraq. Uh, there 0:28:46.060 --> 0:28:52.340 are also, uh, Kurds in that area. That's a Kurdish area. 0:28:52.620 --> 0:28:57.420 So that's basically where Assyria is, uh, in today. And 0:28:57.420 --> 0:29:02.500 there is no peace agreement between Israel and Syria. There 0:29:02.500 --> 0:29:06.500 is a peace agreement with Egypt, but it's a cold peace. 0:29:06.500 --> 0:29:10.060 It's not really. And, uh, Egypt has not turned to 0:29:10.060 --> 0:29:15.340 the Lord. So I believe this is in context, context 0:29:15.940 --> 0:29:22.580 of a, uh, a prophecy of the messianic kingdom, the 0:29:22.580 --> 0:29:25.840 period when Jesus is reigning in Jerusalem. It says in 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.520 verse 20. He will send them a Savior and a leader, 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.240 and he will rescue them. Who is that? That's the Messiah. 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.880 The Lord will make himself known to Egypt, and Egypt 0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.840 will know the Lord on that day, and they will 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.200 even offer sacrifices and offerings. I believe in the millennial temple. 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:42.960 They will return to the Lord, and he will hear 0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:47.200 their prayers and heal them. And on that day he will. 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.520 There will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. So 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.640 we're talking about two ancient enemies of Israel. You have Egypt, 0:29:54.640 --> 0:30:00.320 the original oppressor, and Assyria up north of Israel. And 0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:04.120 they will worship together. They will worship the Lord. So 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.719 that's talking about in the messianic kingdom. There will be this. 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.160 The Israel will be in the center between the north 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:15.000 and the south, between Syria and Egypt. And the three 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.920 there will be a tripartite alliance of people who worship 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:18.480 the Lord. 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:19.200 Okay. 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:19.920 Wow. 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.200 Yeah, that'd be cool. 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:22.340 Yeah. That's it. 0:30:22.500 --> 0:30:22.860 All right. 0:30:22.900 --> 0:30:24.260 That's messianic kingdom days. 0:30:24.380 --> 0:30:30.420 Okay. Yeah. Um. Next question. Actually, with that, it's more 0:30:30.420 --> 0:30:34.540 Millennial Kingdom. But, um, Michael in Illinois listens to WNBA. 0:30:34.540 --> 0:30:37.860 I wanted to know what the purpose of the millennium 0:30:37.860 --> 0:30:43.700 that's mentioned in revelation 20 is. And when I was 0:30:43.700 --> 0:30:48.460 looking at this, um, it talks about, well, the specific 0:30:48.460 --> 0:30:51.060 verse he's asking about says, blessed and holy is the 0:30:51.060 --> 0:30:54.140 one who shares in the first resurrection. The second death 0:30:54.140 --> 0:30:56.180 has no power over them, but they will be priests 0:30:56.180 --> 0:30:58.060 of God and of the Messiah, and they will reign 0:30:58.060 --> 0:31:03.700 with him 1000 years. And so it talks about the, um, 0:31:03.740 --> 0:31:05.300 Satan will be thrown, cast. 0:31:05.300 --> 0:31:05.860 Into, cast. 0:31:05.900 --> 0:31:09.060 Into the abyss, the abyss for a thousand years. And 0:31:09.060 --> 0:31:12.500 then those who have been, uh, it sounded like it 0:31:12.500 --> 0:31:15.940 was those who have been martyred will reign, and others 0:31:15.940 --> 0:31:18.940 will will have that authority to judge as well, for 0:31:18.940 --> 0:31:21.720 a thousand years. And those are the ones who were 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:27.600 in the first resurrection. In that resurrection. And then, uh, 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.880 and then this verse. Yeah. 0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:33.360 Um, yeah, I got it. So. Okay. So who will 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:37.160 participate in the Millennial Kingdom? Yeah. First there will be 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.840 resurrected believers from this era because I believe the resurrection 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:46.840 of and translation of church saints, people who like us 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:51.080 in this era, will either be resurrected before the rapture, 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:55.120 I mean before the tribulation, at the rapture. Okay? Or 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.160 will be translated. You know, if we're alive at the rapture, 0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.440 we'll be translated into the glorified body that we have. 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.040 We won't die. We'll just be translated in the twinkling 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.080 of an eye. And so but we'll return with the 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.000 Lord and enter the kingdom. Remember, it says he descends 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.920 with the holy ones after the marriage supper of the 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.760 Lamb in Revelation 19. So that will be some of 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.860 the resurrected people. Then the Old Testament saints will be 0:32:19.860 --> 0:32:23.580 resurrected when the Lord returns to establish his kingdom. That's 0:32:23.580 --> 0:32:27.500 in Daniel 12 two and three. Uh, it talks about 0:32:27.500 --> 0:32:30.459 the Old Testament saints, all those saints who went to 0:32:30.500 --> 0:32:34.300 be with him when they died. David, Abraham, all those guys, 0:32:34.700 --> 0:32:39.140 they get to be resurrected and enter the kingdom. 0:32:39.140 --> 0:32:42.180 So? So is that the same? So there's the the 0:32:42.180 --> 0:32:44.900 new heavens and new earth, which are that's different. 0:32:44.940 --> 0:32:46.580 That's that's the eternal state. 0:32:46.620 --> 0:32:48.580 This this is the millennial kingdom. Yeah. 0:32:48.580 --> 0:32:49.420 The 1000 years. 0:32:49.420 --> 0:32:50.340 The 1000 years. Okay. 0:32:50.380 --> 0:32:54.500 So you've got the the church resurrected before the tribulation. 0:32:54.580 --> 0:32:59.060 You've got the Old Testament saints being resurrected after the tribulation, 0:32:59.060 --> 0:33:02.860 and also those who died in the tribulation, the martyrs 0:33:03.700 --> 0:33:06.860 during the tribulation, those who are preaching the gospel and martyred. 0:33:06.860 --> 0:33:11.940 They will be resurrected and enter the kingdom, the messianic kingdom, 0:33:12.060 --> 0:33:13.180 the millennium that. 0:33:13.180 --> 0:33:16.460 Would include all martyrs, right? Like anyone before this, I 0:33:16.460 --> 0:33:17.860 mean like no, no, no, no. 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:22.400 Only the martyrs of the tribulation, because the the martyrs 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:28.320 before the rapture, they're resurrected, they're church martyrs. They'll be resurrected. 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.959 If there was an Old Testament martyr, he'll be resurrected 0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:35.000 at the start of the kingdom. And and then, uh, 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.400 also at this time, the martyrs of the tribulation will 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.680 be resurrected. Okay. Okay. So all martyrs will have been 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:42.800 resurrected by then. 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:44.000 But but they're you're. 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:44.840 Just distinguishing. 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.680 Between the categories. Okay. But they will all be there 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.360 reigning for this millennial kingdom with Christ. 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.240 Yes. And then, uh, but the purpose of the millennium 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.920 is to fulfill its. I would say there's two main purposes. One, 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:04.760 to fulfill the promises that God made to Israel, to 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:09.600 inherit the land, to have a righteous kingdom, to be 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:14.040 a kingdom of priests, to bring knowledge of God to everyone. Uh, 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:18.060 all those promises that Israel has never fully experienced will 0:34:18.060 --> 0:34:20.620 be fulfilled in the kingdom and that thousand year reign. 0:34:21.300 --> 0:34:25.700 A second one is that. Think about it. There will 0:34:25.700 --> 0:34:29.339 also be people who are believers at the return of 0:34:29.340 --> 0:34:32.580 the Lord who have not been resurrected. They will also 0:34:32.580 --> 0:34:33.540 enter the kingdom. 0:34:34.260 --> 0:34:36.660 Okay, but in resurrected bodies. 0:34:36.660 --> 0:34:41.500 Yeah. And mortal bodies. And they will marry and have children. 0:34:41.500 --> 0:34:45.980 And those children in that thousand year reign. Those children, grandchildren, 0:34:45.980 --> 0:34:49.420 those they will have to come to know the Lord. 0:34:49.500 --> 0:34:51.939 They will have to trust in Jesus. And you would 0:34:51.940 --> 0:34:54.939 think that they all would, because he's reigning right there 0:34:54.940 --> 0:35:00.620 in Jerusalem. But they don't. And, uh, in the end, 0:35:00.620 --> 0:35:03.580 they rebel, even though Satan has been bound. They still 0:35:03.580 --> 0:35:08.460 don't believe. Even though Satan's been bound, they don't become believers. 0:35:08.780 --> 0:35:13.700 And so at the end, when he is unbound, there's 0:35:13.739 --> 0:35:16.200 one last rebellion against God that's It's called the War 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.759 of Gog and Magog in Revelation 20. So I think 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.719 what this is showing is that I think what it's 0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:23.920 saying is, listen, a lot of people think that the 0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:27.000 reason some don't believe is because the devil makes them 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.879 do it, you know? But there's here's going to be 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:31.880 a time where the devil isn't doing it. Do you 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:36.000 know what's keeping them from believing their own flesh and 0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:41.400 their own rebelliousness and unwillingness? And so what this shows is, 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.839 first of all, that God's going to be faithful to 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.919 all his promises. That's the first reason. But the second 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.399 is to show that people are going to be just 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:54.840 like they always were. And we shouldn't be blaming the enemy. 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.279 We shouldn't be blaming the devil like Geraldine did in 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.000 the old Flip Wilson comedy The Devil Made Me Do It, 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:05.959 but rather recognize that that we are all fallen. Even 0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.799 people born in the millennium will be all right. 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.160 Thank you for that question, Michael. Yeah. Okay. 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:12.840 Let's go with the last question. 0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:17.150 I'll do Ronald in Lake Wales, Florida, listens to what 0:36:17.150 --> 0:36:21.390 is meant by the unpardonable or unforgivable sin. Is it 0:36:21.390 --> 0:36:24.270 specific things? Can we do it if we are saved, 0:36:24.270 --> 0:36:26.310 or does it negate our salvation if we do it 0:36:26.310 --> 0:36:26.870 if we can't? 0:36:26.910 --> 0:36:30.430 First of all, clearly in Scripture, you cannot lose. We 0:36:30.430 --> 0:36:33.109 can't lose our salvation. Romans eight nothing will separate us 0:36:33.110 --> 0:36:35.830 from the love of God once we've come to know him. 0:36:36.110 --> 0:36:38.590 Another is the Lord. Jesus said, he's always come to 0:36:38.590 --> 0:36:41.109 do the father's will. So he's the Messiah. He'll always 0:36:41.110 --> 0:36:42.989 do the father's will. And this is the will of 0:36:42.989 --> 0:36:45.069 my father, that of all that he has given me, 0:36:45.070 --> 0:36:47.629 I lose not one of them. He he can't get 0:36:47.670 --> 0:36:51.470 rid of us. He won't. We can't get away from him. 0:36:51.710 --> 0:36:57.069 So that's clear in Scripture. So what is the unpardonable sin? Uh, 0:36:57.070 --> 0:37:00.230 it's it's the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. What is 0:37:00.230 --> 0:37:04.190 the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? If you read Matthew 16, 0:37:04.190 --> 0:37:07.790 where that's found the context. Matthew 12, where that's found 0:37:07.790 --> 0:37:13.490 Matthew 12, it's saying that there. Here it is, the 0:37:13.850 --> 0:37:18.610 incarnate Messiah is present among them doing great miracles. And 0:37:18.610 --> 0:37:21.890 the leadership there of Israel determined that he was doing 0:37:21.890 --> 0:37:26.290 them by the power of Beelzebub, of Satan, not by 0:37:26.290 --> 0:37:30.049 the power of the Holy Spirit. And so I don't 0:37:30.050 --> 0:37:34.089 think that's a feasible or applicable sin that we can 0:37:34.090 --> 0:37:39.530 commit today, because the incarnate Messiah isn't here doing miracles 0:37:39.530 --> 0:37:43.050 among us. And so though. But that was a full 0:37:43.050 --> 0:37:45.770 and final rejection of Jesus, and they were never going 0:37:45.770 --> 0:37:48.810 to change from that. I think people can come to 0:37:48.810 --> 0:37:53.129 a place of full and final rejection before they ever 0:37:53.130 --> 0:37:54.850 come to know the Lord. They can, but I don't 0:37:54.850 --> 0:37:56.170 know where that is. So I'm going to just keep 0:37:56.170 --> 0:38:00.250 proclaiming the gospel and see those people who seem to 0:38:00.250 --> 0:38:02.650 have rejected him. I've seen people come to know the 0:38:02.650 --> 0:38:06.250 Lord that I thought were beyond. Yeah. Beyond. Beyond. You know, 0:38:06.250 --> 0:38:08.290 beyond hope. So anyway. 0:38:08.290 --> 0:38:09.210 Okay. Thank you. 0:38:09.330 --> 0:38:12.030 Good. Well, we're going to take a break here. Yes. 0:38:12.070 --> 0:38:15.790 And when we do, we'll come back afterwards and take 0:38:15.790 --> 0:38:18.029 some more questions. Try and get as many in as 0:38:18.030 --> 0:38:20.870 I can. I promise, Jeanette, I would take her questions, 0:38:20.870 --> 0:38:23.790 so she's up first. And thank you. Tricia, for putting 0:38:23.790 --> 0:38:26.430 the mailbag together and talking to all these people. Really 0:38:26.430 --> 0:38:29.629 appreciate all that you do. That's Tricia McMillan. 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How can they be saved? 0:40:06.969 --> 0:40:10.230 Here's how people have always been saved. Are you ready, Jeanette? 0:40:10.510 --> 0:40:14.590 Write this down. I'm ready. Okay. People are always saved 0:40:15.070 --> 0:40:22.310 by grace through faith in the revealed will of God. Okay. 0:40:22.910 --> 0:40:27.910 By grace. Through faith in the revealed will of God. Now, 0:40:27.910 --> 0:40:31.030 what I mean by that is that today we must 0:40:31.030 --> 0:40:37.710 have conscious faith in Jesus. Why? Because in Hebrews chapter one, 0:40:38.070 --> 0:40:41.230 here's a verse to remember at the beginning of the 0:40:41.230 --> 0:40:46.469 book of Hebrews it says, uh, God, long ago God 0:40:46.469 --> 0:40:49.270 spoke to the fathers by the prophets at different times 0:40:49.270 --> 0:40:53.629 and in different ways. In these last days, he has 0:40:53.630 --> 0:40:59.790 spoken to us by his Son. Also in John chapter eight, 0:40:59.790 --> 0:41:06.670 when the Lord Jesus, uh, becomes revealed as he's, uh, 0:41:06.670 --> 0:41:11.690 engaging with people and talking, uh, he says in John 824. 0:41:12.330 --> 0:41:16.770 I'm turning to it to read. Uh, for if you 0:41:16.770 --> 0:41:20.250 do not believe that I am he and it literally is, 0:41:20.250 --> 0:41:22.290 if you do not believe that I am sort of 0:41:22.290 --> 0:41:24.850 an indication of deity. If you do not believe that 0:41:24.850 --> 0:41:28.330 I am, you will die in your sins. So there needs, 0:41:28.330 --> 0:41:33.930 I believe, since the incarnation, to have a conscious faith 0:41:33.930 --> 0:41:38.450 in Jesus. He is the revealed will of God. However, 0:41:38.450 --> 0:41:42.210 prior to that, here's what God revealed, for example, to Israel. 0:41:42.450 --> 0:41:44.649 He revealed that they had to have faith that when 0:41:44.650 --> 0:41:48.890 they offered the sacrifices, their sins were covered. They had 0:41:48.890 --> 0:41:51.570 to have faith that one day God would bring a messiah, 0:41:51.570 --> 0:41:54.970 because you could see that right away from Genesis 315, 0:41:55.010 --> 0:41:58.010 that God was promising, uh, the seed of the woman 0:41:58.010 --> 0:41:59.529 who would crush the head of the serpent. They didn't 0:41:59.530 --> 0:42:01.489 know his name would be Jesus. They didn't know when 0:42:01.489 --> 0:42:04.009 he would come, but they knew that there was a 0:42:04.050 --> 0:42:08.350 coming Messiah. And so That was the revealed will of 0:42:08.350 --> 0:42:11.589 God for them. But since then, since the first century, 0:42:12.230 --> 0:42:14.710 now they now people must have a conscious faith in 0:42:14.710 --> 0:42:19.430 Jesus because he has been revealed. Does that make sense 0:42:19.430 --> 0:42:19.950 to you now? 0:42:20.710 --> 0:42:22.549 It does. Okay. Yes it does. 0:42:22.630 --> 0:42:26.830 Thank you. Yeah. So it's, uh, here's the words that, uh, 0:42:26.910 --> 0:42:30.190 Eva and I in our classes have taught students all 0:42:30.190 --> 0:42:34.350 the time about Old Testament salvation. People are saved by grace. 0:42:34.469 --> 0:42:39.390 Always through faith. Always, but always in the revealed will 0:42:39.430 --> 0:42:41.630 of God. Okay, good. 0:42:41.670 --> 0:42:42.669 Very good. Thank you so. 0:42:42.670 --> 0:42:45.790 Much. Yeah. Thanks so much. We're going to, uh, speak 0:42:45.790 --> 0:42:50.390 with Mark in Stow, Ohio, listening on CRF. Welcome to 0:42:50.430 --> 0:42:52.310 Open Line. Mark. How can I help you today? 0:42:53.070 --> 0:42:57.630 Hi, doctor. Nick. Um, I was sitting in a class. Um, 0:42:57.670 --> 0:43:01.549 the teaching was on the wrath of God, and one 0:43:01.550 --> 0:43:05.310 of the emphasis was that God hates sinners and has 0:43:05.310 --> 0:43:07.780 always been my understanding that he loves sinners. So the 0:43:07.780 --> 0:43:11.859 four scriptures that we used were Psalm five five the 0:43:11.860 --> 0:43:14.739 arrogant cannot stand in your presence. You hate all who 0:43:14.780 --> 0:43:19.100 do wrong. Psalm 11 five. The Lord examines the righteous, 0:43:19.100 --> 0:43:25.220 but the wicked who love violence, his soul hates. Um, Jeremiah, 0:43:26.860 --> 0:43:27.219 I lost. 0:43:27.219 --> 0:43:30.620 My. It doesn't matter. There are verses like that. Okay. 0:43:30.780 --> 0:43:34.339 Okay. So, anyway, um, it's always been my understanding that, uh, 0:43:34.340 --> 0:43:36.700 you know, God demonstrates his love for us in this. 0:43:36.700 --> 0:43:39.820 That while we were still sinners, while we were still enemies, 0:43:39.820 --> 0:43:42.299 Christ died for us. And, you know, God so loved 0:43:42.300 --> 0:43:46.020 the world. So, um, the whole idea of God, of 0:43:46.060 --> 0:43:49.540 loving the sinner but hate the sin is in this teaching, uh, 0:43:49.580 --> 0:43:52.180 does not exist. So any light you can shed on 0:43:52.180 --> 0:43:53.339 that would be appreciated. 0:43:53.340 --> 0:43:55.660 I think it's really clear that God so loved the world. Now, 0:43:55.660 --> 0:43:58.660 there are some people who want to limit that love 0:43:58.660 --> 0:44:00.339 to the world of the elect. 0:44:01.140 --> 0:44:01.620 Yes. 0:44:01.739 --> 0:44:06.759 Okay. But I think the word cosmos there clearly refers 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:14.160 to the world of humanity. And then also, uh, Romans 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:17.120 five eight that you just God demonstrates his love towards 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:21.280 us who are elect, that while we were still sinners, 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:26.879 Messiah died for us. So again. But and they actually 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:32.439 I think that's because he uses the word us believers. Uh, 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.839 that's probably a more accurate rendering, but not what John 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:41.760 was saying in John 316. Okay. So, uh, God's love 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:46.600 has to do with his compassion, his concern for all people. 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.399 That's why he gave his one and only son for 0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:52.840 the whole world, right? Uh, yeah. And in first John 0:44:52.840 --> 0:45:02.440 chapter two, verses one and two, uh, it says that, uh, 0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:07.460 turning pages here first John two one and two that 0:45:07.460 --> 0:45:11.500 he is our propitiation, not ours alone, but the propitiation 0:45:11.500 --> 0:45:15.020 or satisfaction for sin for the whole world. So the 0:45:15.060 --> 0:45:20.219 God's love for everyone is that they have to consciously obey. 0:45:20.620 --> 0:45:25.899 They have to obey the command to believe. They must believe. 0:45:25.900 --> 0:45:30.060 And that's how it activates the satisfaction for their sins, 0:45:30.060 --> 0:45:33.219 the atonement for their sins. Without that, they're not saved. 0:45:33.340 --> 0:45:37.060 So it's not a salvation, a love that leads to 0:45:37.140 --> 0:45:40.580 salvation necessarily. They have to respond in faith. You agree 0:45:40.580 --> 0:45:41.620 with that, don't you, Mark? 0:45:42.180 --> 0:45:43.620 Oh, yes. Of course. Yeah. 0:45:43.660 --> 0:45:46.700 Okay. But now the question is, a lot of times 0:45:46.700 --> 0:45:50.700 in the Hebrew Bible, the word hate, and even sometimes 0:45:50.700 --> 0:45:55.140 in the Gospels, the word hate has to be translated 0:45:55.140 --> 0:45:59.980 as reject. Like Jacob have I loved chosen, but Esau 0:46:00.020 --> 0:46:04.320 have I hated, rejected. And what this is teaching clearly 0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.320 that those who don't believe, even though God loves the world, 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:13.040 if they reject him, then God will reject them. And 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.600 that's what the word hate means in those verses that 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:16.920 you found. Okay. 0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:19.239 I appreciate that. Yeah. 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.040 Well, thanks for calling, Mark. Appreciate that. I hope you're 0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:26.120 not rejecting him. If you're listening. Put your trust in Jesus. Uh, 0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.439 and and follow him. Uh, and God's love will be 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.960 shed abroad in our hearts. 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