WEBVTT - In His Presence – Part 2

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<v S1>Today on Bold steps with Mark job, we're discovering the

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<v S1>life changing power of finding the presence of God.

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<v S2>If you can blame accuse, if you can walk arrogantly

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<v S2>through the streets of Chicago, by the homeless, by the broken,

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<v S2>by the businessmen, if you judge and walk with very

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<v S2>little concern except criticism, then you have not been recently

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<v S2>in the presence of the Most High God.

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<v S1>Welcome to Bold Steps with pastor Mark Jobe, president of

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<v S1>Moody Bible Institute and senior pastor of New Life Community

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<v S1>Church in Chicago. I'm Wayne Shepherd. Last week we began

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<v S1>a powerful lesson from Isaiah chapter six about encountering the

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<v S1>true presence of God. Before Isaiah could begin his public ministry,

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<v S1>God knew he needed a fresh supernatural vision of his

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<v S1>grandeur and holiness. A vision that would ignite Isaiah's calling

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<v S1>with holy fire. If you missed part one of this

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<v S1>eye opening message, you'll find it at Bold steps.org. But

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<v S1>now let's join Mark Jobe as we continue exploring what

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<v S1>happens when we truly experience God's presence. Our message titled

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<v S1>In His presence.

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<v S2>So the fact that you're a Christian doesn't offend anybody.

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<v S2>As long as it's a contained Christianity, the fact that

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<v S2>you're a believer in God doesn't bother anybody. As long

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<v S2>as it's watered down. As long as it's nominal. As

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<v S2>long as it's not too radical. As long as you're

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<v S2>God is a shrunken version of God. But God needed

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<v S2>to do something in Isaiah because he knew that Isaiah

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<v S2>was going to be ministering in a culture with a

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<v S2>minimized God. And before Isaiah was going to step into

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<v S2>his public ministry. God said, you need to see me

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<v S2>for who I am. You need a fresh vision of

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<v S2>who I am. Because if you start to minister with

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<v S2>this small vision, then you will never be consumed by

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<v S2>the fire that I want to exist within your belly.

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<v S2>Your calling will never be fervent. Your radical nature pursuing

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<v S2>me will never be where it needs to be. You see,

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<v S2>before you do anything, you need to be exposed to

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<v S2>the real I am. And so, as Isaiah was in

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<v S2>the temple seeking God, he had a supernatural vision of God.

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<v S2>And there's two things that stand out immediately before Isaiah

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<v S2>as he encounters this God. The Bible says that there's

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<v S2>a throne and there's holiness. The throne speaks to the

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<v S2>authority of God, his sovereignty, his power over all things.

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<v S2>And his holiness means that God is set apart like

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<v S2>no other. He's not one God among the others, he

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<v S2>is set apart. There is no one like unto him.

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<v S2>He's in a category uniquely his, a category that cannot

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<v S2>be defined. A category that is far above. There is

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<v S2>no other God like this God. And God wanted Isaiah

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<v S2>to see him in all of his grandeur and beauty.

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<v S2>Isaiah was not alone in seeing God's throne. Almost everyone

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<v S2>in the Bible who had a vision of heaven has

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<v S2>written about the throne of God. Look at revelation. There's

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<v S2>a throne, and he describes what he saw in this throne.

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<v S2>He describes that he saw this great throne representing the

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<v S2>sovereignty of God, that they said, Holy, holy, holy is

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<v S2>the Lord God Almighty. Now they could have said a

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<v S2>lot of things to describe God, because God is a

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<v S2>lot of things. They could say love, love, love is

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<v S2>the Lord God Almighty. They could say, mercy, mercy, mercy

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<v S2>is the Lord God Almighty. They could say grace, grace,

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<v S2>grace filled is the Lord God Almighty. But you know

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<v S2>what these angels said? Something unique. Something that defines our

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<v S2>God like no other. They said, Holy, holy, holy is

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<v S2>the Lord God Almighty. Why? Because the holiness of God,

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<v S2>the holiness of God, defines his character. All of the

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<v S2>other attributes of God are contained within his holiness. You

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<v S2>can't understand the love of God unless you understand the

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<v S2>holiness of God. You will not be consumed by how

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<v S2>powerful God's love is, unless you first of all understand

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<v S2>that he is pure, undefiled, like no other. And that

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<v S2>in his own character us in our unblemished way, sinful

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<v S2>way would be consumed. And now we understand the love

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<v S2>of God to be overwhelming. You see, devoid of his holiness,

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<v S2>the character of God, the other attributes of God, they

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<v S2>become so mundane. Oh, God loves me. Yeah. And so

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<v S2>does my wife and my kids and my neighbor and

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<v S2>my cousin. But the love of God is not like that.

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<v S2>The love of God is defined within the context of

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<v S2>his holiness. This is a different kind of love. This

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<v S2>is a higher kind of love. A.W. Tozer said he

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<v S2>is absolutely holy, with an infinite, incomprehensible fullness of purity

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<v S2>that is incapable of being other than who he is.

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<v S2>A piercing purity. You say, well, Mark, I don't know

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<v S2>if I can relate to that. I'd rather see Jesus

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<v S2>as my friend. Oh he is. But never get too

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<v S2>familiarized with Jesus to feel like he's just a little

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<v S2>buddy out there because he's not. He's the incomprehensible, high

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<v S2>and lifted up holy God. And when we lose that,

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<v S2>We lose a sense of urgency. Listen, when we lose that,

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<v S2>we are not propelled to purity. Isaiah saw him high

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<v S2>and lifted up in this way. When the Bible calls

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<v S2>God holy, it means that he's primarily that that God

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<v S2>is transcendently separate from all others. There's no competition. There's

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<v S2>no syncretism, there's no mixture. He's not diluted. He's 100% holy.

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<v S2>But I need to remind you what happens when Isaiah

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<v S2>encounters his holiness. Because this is not just a description

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<v S2>of who God is. This is not an exercise in impression.

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<v S2>This is so that Isaiah would be intrinsically changed. You see,

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<v S2>his presence stirs us with a renewed awareness of our

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<v S2>desperate need for purity. And the very first thing that

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<v S2>Isaiah says when he's exposed to the grandeur of God

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<v S2>and His holiness. The very first thing, he doesn't bow

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<v S2>and worship and say, you're such an awesome God. I

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<v S2>would think that maybe that would be his response. But

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<v S2>immediately what Isaiah does in light of God's holiness, he

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<v S2>is becomes acutely aware of his unholiness. The very first

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<v S2>thing that he says is woe is me. He doesn't say, woe, God,

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<v S2>you are amazing. He said, woe! I am unclean! I cried,

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<v S2>this is a desperate cry. He says, I'm ruined. Why?

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<v S2>Because he's exposed to the unblemished purity and holiness of

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<v S2>Almighty God. You see, it's within that contrast that we

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<v S2>realize how much we need to change. It's in the

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<v S2>horizontal comparison with others that we excuse our fleshliness, our deficiency,

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<v S2>our sin, and we walk around like we're okay. It's

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<v S2>in the undaunted view of God's holiness that immediately we

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<v S2>are pierced with our need to be cleansed. It's when

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<v S2>I have not been exposed to God. It's when I'm

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<v S2>not concentrating on God. It's when I'm not focused on

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<v S2>the vertical that I become very, very comfortable with my fleshliness,

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<v S2>my sins, my attitude, my pride, my egotism, my lust.

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<v S2>I become very comfortable with it. I excuse it, I

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<v S2>minimize it, I live with it, and I take on

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<v S2>a nonchalant attitude like it's not that bad. That's me

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<v S2>walking in the flesh. Me walking in the flesh is

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<v S2>when I compare myself with others. And of course, I

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<v S2>always compare myself with people that are a lot worse

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<v S2>than I am. He said, for I am a man

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<v S2>of unclean lips, and I live among a people of

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<v S2>unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the

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<v S2>Lord Almighty. I like what J.I. Packer says. He says

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<v S2>revival is the visitation of God, which brings to life

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<v S2>Christians who have been sleeping and restores a deep sense

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<v S2>of God's near presence and holiness, thence springs a vivid

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<v S2>sense of sin and a profound exercise of heart and repentance.

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<v S2>Praise and love. Listen with an evangelistic outflow. I am

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<v S2>at worst when I am least perceptive of the presence

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<v S2>of God. When I am walking in little awe of

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<v S2>who he is. That's when I'm the worst. I'm the worst.

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<v S2>When my pride tells me I'm okay. When my deceptive

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<v S2>heart minimizes that which causes the heart of God to grieve.

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<v S2>We can live in a culture that's lukewarm. In a

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<v S2>culture that's accepted a shrunken God, it breeds and fosters

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<v S2>a culture of lukewarm Christianity. A culture of nominal holiness.

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<v S2>A culture of. Gentle passion. A culture that tolerates. A

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<v S2>culture that assimilates. A culture that synchronizes with our culture

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<v S2>so that we fit in. But I believe that God

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<v S2>is looking for Isaiah's. I believe that God is looking

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<v S2>for Isaiah's, who have been exposed to the presence of

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<v S2>God and cannot swallow or accept a lukewarm, watered down

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<v S2>version of what it means to be a follower of

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<v S2>Jesus the Christ and the awesome, Holy God of the universe.

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<v S2>And the Bible tells us that. Listen, the Bible tells

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<v S2>us that when Isaiah saw, he said, I'm ruined. I'm

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<v S2>a man of unclean lips. In other words, what it

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<v S2>did to him is it drove him to the need

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<v S2>to be clean. I have to be clean. I have

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<v S2>to be clean. There's a desperation when you encounter the

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<v S2>presence of God when you expose His holiness, there's not

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<v S2>a just, hey, it would be nice if I got

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<v S2>my life right. There is a desperation. I cannot go

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<v S2>one more day without getting right with God. There's a

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<v S2>deep conviction of sin. There's a deep drive for purity. Why?

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<v S2>What drives us? The fear of hell? No. It's the

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<v S2>fear of God. It's exposure to the undiluted presence of

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<v S2>the Holy God that causes us to have a urgency

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<v S2>about getting things right, not a unwillingness to continue to

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<v S2>live and walk that way.

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<v S1>A powerful description of what it means to experience the

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<v S1>presence of God. And Mark Jobe will continue after a

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<v S1>short time out, but you're listening to Bold Steps, a

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<v S1>message titled In His Presence. Mark, I want to take

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<v S1>a moment and especially thank our bold partners, people who

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<v S1>give to this ministry on a monthly basis. We we're

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<v S1>just so grateful for them. And we got this note

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<v S1>from a man who's listening now to one of our

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<v S1>newer stations online with us. Uh, he says, Pastor Job

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<v S1>and the Bold Steps radio team. Thank you for a

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<v S1>great program. I listen every weekday and also enjoy the

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<v S1>short messages. Pastor job, the spirit speaks to me through

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<v S1>your practical, down to earth preaching. We also share something

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<v S1>as fairly unique as Americans. I also speak Spanish with

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<v S1>a Spanish accent. Not only that, but because I lived

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<v S1>in Catalonia for almost 20 years and spoke the language there,

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<v S1>much to the amusement of people I meet from the

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<v S1>rest of Spain and the Spanish speaking world, I sound

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<v S1>like a Catalan farmer in Spanish. I hope to use

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<v S1>this linguistic situation to glorify God. God bless your bilingual ministry.

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<v S1>And he's a he's a bold partner.

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<v S3>That's great. Well, Robert, thank you for that encouragement.

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<v S1>Here we go.

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<v S3>Robert.

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<v S1>You got him going.

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<v S3>Okay. So blessings. You know, it's great to people from

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<v S3>all over the world both in this country and other

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<v S3>places can connect with what the Spirit of God is doing.

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<v S3>And so, Robert, that word of encouragement is great. And

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<v S3>we appreciate, uh, we appreciate you as a bold partner

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<v S3>as well. Thank you.

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<v S1>Well, be like Robert and become a bold partner today

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<v S1>by giving to this ministry. You can do that online

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<v S1>at Bold steps.org and it is so much appreciated. Thank

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<v S1>you for doing that. Now back to our message. Here

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<v S1>again is Mark Jobe with more bold steps.

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<v S2>In the Welsh revival at the turn of the century,

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<v S2>just a couple of years after D.L. Moody had died,

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<v S2>the heart of it was a 26 year old man

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<v S2>named Evan Roberts. Read about the Welsh revival and you

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<v S2>will be astonished at what God did in staggering proportions

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<v S2>in that little country. More than 100,000 people professed conversion

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<v S2>during a six month period. What they emphasize. Confession of

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<v S2>all known sin have done with all secret and doubtful things.

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<v S2>Confess Christ openly and obey the Spirit's prompting immediately. This

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<v S2>in my time is running out. So let me finish

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<v S2>with this. His presence always points us to the centrality

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<v S2>and work of Jesus. The Bible says, then one of

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<v S2>the seraphs flew to me with a live coal in

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<v S2>his hand, which he had taken with tongs from the altar.

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<v S2>With it he touched my mouth and said, see, this

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<v S2>has touched your lips. Your guilt is taken away and

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<v S2>your sin is atoned for. You see, most scholars believe

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<v S2>that the coal was taken from the altar of incense.

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<v S2>It's the same altar that Uzziah had stood before and

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<v S2>15 years before desecrated. It is also the altar of

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<v S2>incense was the holy to the Lord, and was atoned

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<v S2>for with the blood of sacrifice. It's pointing to Jesus.

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<v S2>It's pointing to atonement. It's the blood of Christ applied

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<v S2>in our hearts that makes our prayers acceptable. It is

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<v S2>the sacrifice of the lamb. It drives us to Jesus

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<v S2>at the heart of every renewal. At the heart of

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<v S2>every revival is not just a conviction of sin, but

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<v S2>it's a drawing, a drivenness to Jesus, the the pure sacrifice.

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<v S2>There cannot be renewal and revival in our heart with

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<v S2>a new appreciation for what Jesus has done for a

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<v S2>new consecration to the Lordship of Jesus in our lives.

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<v S2>In Isaiah's fresh encounter. Well, you know you've heard it before.

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<v S2>Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, whom

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<v S2>shall I send, and who will go for us? And

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<v S2>I love this. He had seen a fresh vision of God.

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<v S2>So his response is, here am I. Send me. You see,

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<v S2>if you don't have a passion, a drive, a fire.

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<v S2>Don't blame it on your personality. It may have much

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<v S2>more to do with your exposure to the presence of God.

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<v S2>Because the presence of God puts an urgency in our soul.

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<v S3>I'm going to close with this.

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<v S2>I almost quit ministry six months into it. And God

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<v S2>brought me into deep, deep conviction that.

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<v S3>I was trying to do the.

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<v S2>Work of God in the power of the flesh, and

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<v S2>I needed to spend.

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<v S3>More.

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<v S2>Time in his presence. It was contrary to my nature

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<v S2>because I wanted to do not be still. I wanted

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<v S2>to accomplish. Not gaze.

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<v S3>But it was.

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<v S2>In that time of breaking that for the first time

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<v S2>I wept over the city. It was in the presence

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<v S2>of God that for the first time, my heart broke

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<v S2>over the brokenness that I saw in our communities. It

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<v S2>was in the presence of God that A unabashed, compelling

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<v S2>love filled my soul for people that I could care

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<v S2>less about before. It was in the presence of God

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<v S2>that a fire started burning in my heart. A compelling

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<v S2>desire to see people change and know the gospel. Without

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<v S2>exposure to his presence, you know the gospel. You know

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<v S2>it's important. It's in your head. But you will have

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<v S2>very little desire and drive that others should know. There's

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<v S2>never spiritual renewal without people gaining a fiery passion to

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<v S2>tell others about Jesus. If we can walk down the

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<v S2>street and just complain about people, look down. If you

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<v S2>can see the prostitute on the street and turn and

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<v S2>disgust instead of allowing your heart to break over someone's

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<v S2>daughter that needs the Lord. If you can blame, accuse.

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<v S2>If you can walk arrogantly through the streets of Chicago,

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<v S2>by the homeless, by the broken, by the transgender, by

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<v S2>the businessmen. If you judge and walk with very little

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<v S2>concern except criticism, then you have not been recently in

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<v S2>the presence of the Most High God. Because if you

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<v S2>had listen, if you had, your heart would weep and break.

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<v S2>Compassion would break out. Grieving would take over. A A

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<v S2>desire for people to know Jesus would be a part

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<v S2>of your encounter, your daily encounter. Maybe some of you

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<v S2>would be saying, O Lord. Give me a fresh vision

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<v S2>of who you are. I need an Isaiah encounter. God.

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<v S2>Start with me. It's easy for us to say, God,

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<v S2>do it in everybody else. But let me tell you,

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<v S2>the right posture is not what God needs to do

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<v S2>in them and those in this and what their sin.

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<v S2>The right posture is God, start with me. Father, we pray.

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<v S2>That the scales of our eyes would be lifted. That

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<v S2>are distorted, minimized, sanitized version of you Would be displaced

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<v S2>by true encounters with who you are. God. I thank you, father,

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<v S2>that you are good. You pursue us. I pray God

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<v S2>that you would prepare our hearts to be exposed to

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<v S2>the light of your holiness, and that we would not

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<v S2>shy away. But, God, we would deal with whatever you

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<v S2>need to deal with our lives. That we would respond

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<v S2>promptly in obedience and that you would have your way.

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<v S2>I thank you for this student body, and I thank

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<v S2>you for the faculty. I thank you, father, that this

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<v S2>is an amazing community that wants to follow you, God.

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<v S2>But there's so much you need to do in us

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<v S2>still so much God that you need to do in

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<v S2>us still. And so we wait with expectation. We honor you.

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<v S2>We bless you. And we pray this in Jesus Amen.

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