WEBVTT - Dear Gary | September

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<v S1>This is becoming more and more stressful between the two

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<v S1>of us.

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<v S2>He's claiming that all the money we have is his money.

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<v S3>I just really miss not having time with my granddaughter.

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<v S4>Welcome to Building relationships with Doctor Gary Chapman, author of

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<v S4>The New York Times best seller, The Five Love Languages Today.

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<v S4>Your questions about the love languages, in-laws, and more on

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<v S4>our September edition of Dear Gary. And let me say

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<v S4>it early and often. We would love to hear your

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<v S4>question for Doctor Chapman on Future Broadcast. Here's the number

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<v S4>for our listener line 1866424. Gary again (866) 424-4279. The very

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<v S4>struggle that you're having right now in a relationship might

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<v S4>be just what somebody else needs to hear. So give

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<v S4>us a call. And if you go to building relationships.us,

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<v S4>you'll see our featured resource, a book by Doctor Chapman

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<v S4>that he wrote with Jolene Filo. Sharing love abundantly in

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<v S4>special needs families. It subtitled The Five Love Languages for

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<v S4>Parents Raising Children with disabilities. Again, find out more at

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<v S4>Building relationships.us. And Gary, that is a growing segment of

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<v S4>the population. Families with children who have special needs. And

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<v S4>there's more help now, I think, than there used to be.

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<v S4>Do you agree?

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<v S5>Well, there is, Chris, and that's why I wrote this

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<v S5>book as well, because Jolene Filo, my coauthor, as you mentioned,

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<v S5>has a special needs child, and she has worked in

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<v S5>that field and had found the five love languages very,

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<v S5>very helpful, but also knew something about the nuances of

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<v S5>how to use the five love languages. You know, with

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<v S5>special needs children. So if our listeners haven't heard of

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<v S5>that book, I hope they'll get it because it will

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<v S5>be a great help to them in expressing love to

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<v S5>their child of special needs.

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<v S4>We have it linked right there at the website Building relationships.us.

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<v S4>The title again sharing love abundantly in special needs families.

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<v S4>All right. I want to start with two in-law struggles.

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<v S4>If we could Gary and be aware next week Doctor

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<v S4>Kathy Cook is going to address resolving conflict between parents

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<v S4>and adult children. So that's coming up in one week.

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<v S4>But I want to hear your perspective on these. Here's

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<v S4>the first question. I have a situation with my mother

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<v S4>in law. My husband and I are having to keep

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<v S4>her at a distance. We've had family meetings many times

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<v S4>and told her where we stand and let her talk

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<v S4>as well, and tried to set boundaries, and she will

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<v S4>not respect us if she does. It only lasts for

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<v S4>a month or so. Then she goes right back to

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<v S4>the way it was. She shows up all the time

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<v S4>with no text or call. She tries to mother our

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<v S4>kids and she tries to mother us and tell us

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<v S4>what we should do. I have prayed and the Lord

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<v S4>has softened my heart. And then she goes right back

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<v S4>to doing what she was doing and my heart hardens again.

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<v S4>So that's the situation, Gary. What do you say?

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<v S5>Well, I say, first of all, I identify with what

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<v S5>she's saying, and I have empathy for her and her husband. Okay.

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<v S5>I think sometimes mother in law's forget that they have

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<v S5>an adult child who is married and perhaps has children. Uh,

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<v S5>in this case. And so they just keep on mothering.

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<v S5>You know, they keep on mothering, keep on being a parent. Uh,

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<v S5>I would say that, uh, you know, I've written a

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<v S5>book on that and Cathy Cook has written a book

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<v S5>on that that I think you might find helpful. But

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<v S5>I do think, or that she might find helpful, you know,

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<v S5>put it in her hands and say, I heard about

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<v S5>this book and. Okay. But I do think, uh, it really,

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<v S5>I think your husband is in the best position to

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<v S5>communicate how the two of you feel with her because

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<v S5>you've tried to, you know, the family things before. They

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<v S5>haven't worked. Uh, but for you to be the one

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<v S5>who the wife to be the one who is verbalizing

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<v S5>this to her mother in law, I think just creates

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<v S5>a barrier between the two of you. Uh, your husband

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<v S5>has a relationship with her that you don't have. You know,

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<v S5>she's a mother. So I'd say let him be the

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<v S5>spokesman to share whatever either the two of you agree

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<v S5>needs to be shared. Uh, the other factor is, of course,

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<v S5>we we can't control her. I mean, we can make requests.

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<v S5>And you've done some of that in the past, but

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<v S5>we can't control her. And sometimes we have to adjust to, uh,

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<v S5>the disposition and the character traits and the behavior traits

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<v S5>of of in-laws who just are not responsive. But I

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<v S5>wouldn't give up. I think periodically, if the husband could

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<v S5>have a conversation with his mother and just reiterate some

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<v S5>of the things that you have said in the past,

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<v S5>you know, who knows? Maybe along the way she may

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<v S5>soften herself. But again, we can influence another person. We

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<v S5>cannot control the other person, but far better to have

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<v S5>positive words along with whatever you are bringing up that

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<v S5>you wish she wouldn't do. Expressing some gratitude for some

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<v S5>of the things that she has done. Uh, that kind

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<v S5>of creates a more positive atmosphere before you deal with

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<v S5>the thing that's really troubling you.

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<v S4>I see some hope in here because she says she'll

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<v S4>do it for a few weeks or month, you know?

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<v S4>So if you give words of affirmation, mom, in the

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<v S4>last month, you have done so well with that, that

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<v S4>request that we made. And then, you know, I just

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<v S4>wanted you to know how much we appreciate, you know,

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<v S4>you put it couch it in those terms and maybe

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<v S4>she'll it'll click with her because it sounds like she

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<v S4>like yours truly. I get in my set ways and

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<v S4>I just go, I just go back to doing what

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<v S4>I do relationally. Uh, unless I have somebody help me

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<v S4>see what I can't see. So I see a little

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<v S4>bit of hope there. What about you?

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<v S5>Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right. Chris. And the fact that you affirm, uh,

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<v S5>you know, over the last month, mom, you've done really

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<v S5>well with this, but, you know, last week what happened.

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<v S5>And so I just want to remind you because I

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<v S5>really appreciate what you've done. And I know that I

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<v S5>know that you can you can help us here a

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<v S5>lot if you can continue to, to make those changes.

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<v S4>Yes. You mentioned the book by Doctor Cook, which is

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<v S4>resolve conflict and Find peace and hope with adult children.

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<v S4>We'll talk about that in a week. Your book about

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<v S4>that topic is Your New Life with Your Adult Child.

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<v S4>You can find out more about those at building relationships.us.

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<v S4>All right, so there's in-law question number one. Our first

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<v S4>caller also has a struggle with her mother in law.

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<v S4>And we pick up in the middle of her call.

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<v S4>Here's the gist of her problem.

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<v S6>We had several run ins. Um, and I just wanted

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<v S6>to get some feedback on how we handled that situation recently.

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<v S6>She wants my husband to purchase a house for her

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<v S6>because she put herself in a financial situation, and now

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<v S6>she needs a home. And again, we've had several issues

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<v S6>in the past. She's a person that's very, um, self-righteous

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<v S6>and thinks she's better than others. And basically what we

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<v S6>were discussing, the financials and so on and so on.

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<v S6>She said he did. And I kind of aired out

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<v S6>what I've been holding back for many years. And we're

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<v S6>not technically talking right now. She says she's at peace

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<v S6>and things needed to be said, but I don't think

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<v S6>it's over. And I do feel some guilt and how

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<v S6>I felt, um, and how I expressed myself. I didn't

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<v S6>want it to get to that point, but I just

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<v S6>I'm looking for feedback.

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<v S5>Well, I think the first thing I would say is

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<v S5>if you feel guilty about the way you responded to her,

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<v S5>that is, you know, maybe harsh words or loud words

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<v S5>or whatever. Uh, I think the first step is an apology.

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<v S5>You know, it's just to say, I just need to

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<v S5>share this with you. I lost my temper the other

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<v S5>day when da da da da da da da. And

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<v S5>that was wrong. And I want to ask you to

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<v S5>forgive me for that. I think that'd be the first

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<v S5>step on your side in terms of buying a house

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<v S5>for his mother that you all cannot afford. I think

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<v S5>he's the one to communicate that to her and to say,

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<v S5>not you. But he says to her, mom, I really

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<v S5>wish I could do that, but we are not in

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<v S5>a position financially to buy you a house. Now, if

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<v S5>she really desperately needs help and having a place to live.

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<v S5>Certainly as her son, he wants to do everything he

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<v S5>can to help her. And if he has brothers and sisters,

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<v S5>he would like to, he should bring them into the situation.

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<v S5>So here's mom's situation and we need to do something

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<v S5>to try to help her. But you can't do something

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<v S5>that you cannot afford to do. Again, I believe that

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<v S5>what I said earlier is that the the son or

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<v S5>the daughter of the of the person is the one

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<v S5>that's best equipped to communicate to them because they have

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<v S5>a relationship, a lifelong relationship with them. So rather than

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<v S5>you like the daughter in law trying to communicate to

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<v S5>her your concerns or your requests or whatever. Far better

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<v S5>to let the husband do that because it's his mother

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<v S5>and you're far more likely to have a positive response.

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<v S5>I would, however, continue to work at having a positive Relationship.

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<v S5>There's some people you cannot have a positive relationship with

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<v S5>because whatever you do is always wrong. But it's always

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<v S5>worth the effort. And as I said, I want to

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<v S5>say it again. I think the place to start is

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<v S5>with an apology that you apologize to her and say,

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<v S5>I overreacted. And I lost my temper and I said

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<v S5>some things I should not have said, and I want

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<v S5>to ask you to forgive me. That could be the

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<v S5>first step in making the relationship better.

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<v S4>Our program is building relationships with Doctor Gary Chapman. This

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<v S4>is our Dear Gary broadcast for September. We'd love to

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<v S4>hear your question. At 866424. Gary, leave your message. Maybe

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<v S4>The book by Doctor Chapman and Jolene Filo sharing love

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<v S4>abundantly and special needs families go to building relationships.us. We've

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<v S4>received a lot of dating questions from younger listeners through

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<v S4>the years. Middle aged listeners, too. Here's one about octogenarian relationships.

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<v S1>Hello, Gary. I am 84 years old and I am

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<v S1>in a relationship with a 80 year old, but I

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<v S1>have difficulty enjoying conversations with him, even though he offers

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<v S1>me many compliments and he often says he loves me.

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<v S1>He also is an atheist and regards anything, any religious,

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<v S1>specifically ritual activity as foolish and ridiculous and unscientific and

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<v S1>stuff like that. And I love all of those things.

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<v S1>I have a relationship with God and I can't talk

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<v S1>to him about it. This is becoming more and more stressful.

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<v S1>Between the two of us. This, this deep disagreement and

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<v S1>even quarrels is not helped by the fact that we

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<v S1>enjoy touching or that we offer each other compliments, or

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<v S1>that he does many wonderful things for me and gives

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<v S1>me gifts. Oh, although we both believe in serving other

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<v S1>people and in loving other people. And he's really very

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<v S1>good about that sort of thing. It's just that he

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<v S1>wants to leave God out and he hates rituals. I

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<v S1>don't see how that fits into any of the five

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<v S1>love languages. The time we spend together is marred by

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<v S1>the fact that I can't talk to him about the

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<v S1>things I that mean the most to me. What's the

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<v S1>good of spending time together when we can't have a conversation?

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<v S1>And I love conversations. I mean the compliments and the

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<v S1>gifts don't compensate for that. And it feels as if

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<v S1>the touching is about the only thing we really have.

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<v S1>What do I do now? I'm not going to speak

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<v S1>to my clergyman. Will probably say I shouldn't be in

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<v S1>a relationship with somebody who doesn't believe in any deity.

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<v S1>I don't know what else to do next. Thank you. Hi.

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<v S5>Well, you have to feel for her pain, because at

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<v S5>her age, she has found a person that she does

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<v S5>have a lot of positive things about him. And they

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<v S5>do some things together that she enjoys and he positive

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<v S5>gifts and those kind of things. But she is dealing

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<v S5>with the real issue. You know, the scriptures say, can

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<v S5>two walk together if they're not agreed? And that doesn't

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<v S5>mean we have to agree on everything, but we certainly

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<v S5>have to agree on the most important thing for any

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<v S5>of us, and that is our relationship with God. A

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<v S5>life's meaning is not found in things, even in gifts.

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<v S5>Life's meaning is found in our relationship with God, and

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<v S5>it appears that our caller has a really close relationship

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<v S5>with God, which is incredibly wonderful. That's what God wants

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<v S5>to have with every one of his children. But if

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<v S5>he is, not only is he not a Christian, but

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<v S5>he's not even willing to talk about it. And he

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<v S5>puts down people who believe there is a God. I

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<v S5>think on the major issue in a relationship, you disagree.

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<v S5>So I think there does come a point if he's

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<v S5>not open, for example, to going to church with you,

0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:38.440
<v S5>he's not open to reading a Christian book on apologetics,

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<v S5>which is, you know, defending the Christian faith. He's not

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<v S5>willing to talk about it. Then it's a closed door.

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<v S5>And as hard as it might be, I think there

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<v S5>was a place to say to him, I have enjoyed

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<v S5>our relationship, but I have to be honest with you,

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<v S5>I cannot go on because we're walking to the beat

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<v S5>of a different drummer, and I cannot continue a relationship

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<v S5>with someone who is not even open to talking about

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<v S5>our relationship with God, and who insists that there is

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<v S5>no God. So it's just a matter of having a strong,

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<v S5>hard relationship. Once you've made the decision, you have to

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<v S5>make the decision. No one can make it for you. Uh,

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<v S5>but I think, uh, in the light of what you've said, uh,

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<v S5>that's probably what it's going to come to, but you'll

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<v S5>have to think your way through it and decide when

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<v S5>to do that. But if he has been that strong,

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<v S5>as I heard in your voice of not even wanting

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<v S5>to talk about it, you're not going to you're not

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<v S5>going to have a healthy Relationship and there comes a

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<v S5>place to recognize that.

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<v S4>And I think she is so articulate and she is

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<v S4>she's able to, you know, encapsulate what I just love

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<v S4>how she put all, you know, these these things together.

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<v S4>But then she said, I can't talk to my pastor,

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<v S4>my clergyman, because I know what I'm going to, what

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<v S4>I'm going to hear. And she doesn't want to hear it.

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<v S4>She doesn't want to hear, you know, and it's like, okay,

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<v S4>I get that this is the same thing that you

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<v S4>would hear from a teenager. And I'm not putting either

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<v S4>a teenager or an 80 year old down. It's like,

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<v S4>this is the same issue. A teenager who's, who's dating

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<v S4>somebody that is not really going to not good for her,

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<v S4>you know, or him. And, and the parents try to say, yeah,

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<v S4>but I try to talk some sense is like, no,

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<v S4>I don't want to hear that. Yeah. So she, I

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<v S4>think you're right. I think she has to come to

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<v S4>this on her own rather than having somebody tell her, Or,

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<v S4>you know, reveal it, don't you?

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<v S5>Yeah, absolutely. Chris. It's a decision she has to make,

0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.760
<v S5>but she's already wrestling with it. She already has that

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<v S5>sense that the deepest thing that I want to talk about,

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<v S5>I can't even talk about with him, you know, this

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<v S5>is my life. This is the heart of my life.

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<v S5>And so but yeah, she has to come to the

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<v S5>decision to recognize that this, this, she's not going to

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<v S5>find satisfaction in this relationship unless he is open to

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<v S5>start moving in a direction to, to discover that not

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<v S5>only is there a God, but that God loves him

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<v S5>and wants to have a relationship with him, but apparently

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<v S5>he is open to that option.

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<v S4>Well, can't they just be friends? I mean, is it

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<v S4>possible to just say, okay, we don't I don't want

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<v S4>to date anymore. You know, I want to spend this time,

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<v S4>but I still want to be friends with you. And

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<v S4>let's have conversations about, you know, the weather or whatever. Uh,

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<v S4>he's probably not going to like that, but you know

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<v S4>that She can still stay in a relationship, just not

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<v S4>a close one like she's talking about. What do you

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<v S4>think of that?

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<v S5>Well, I think that's a possibility, you know. But I

0:17:55.090 --> 0:17:57.690
<v S5>don't know what the nature of their relationship is. I

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<v S5>don't know how many times they're seeing each other or even.

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<v S5>I don't. I don't know who they may be living together,

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<v S5>for that matter. I don't. I don't know. It wasn't

0:18:05.890 --> 0:18:09.450
<v S5>wasn't clear what she said. Uh, but yeah, you can

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<v S5>be friends with non-Christians, but the depth of the relationship

0:18:15.490 --> 0:18:18.689
<v S5>is limited because you can't talk about spiritual things.

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<v S4>That's Doctor Gary Chapman. This is our Dear Gary broadcast

0:18:23.170 --> 0:18:25.929
<v S4>for September. So glad you're listening. If you have a

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<v S4>question for Gary for a future broadcast. 866424. Gary now

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<v S4>a love language question from a mom who wants to

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<v S4>express a specific love language.

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<v S7>Hi, Gary. I have a question? I have an adult son.

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<v S7>His primary love language is quality time. So I was

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<v S7>just asking like, what would be the best way to

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<v S7>show quality time for, um, adult son? Thank you for

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<v S7>getting my call.

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<v S5>I think the answer would lie in what he is

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<v S5>interested in in life. If he is into sports, for example.

0:19:12.140 --> 0:19:16.139
<v S5>But you know nothing about sports, then to begin to

0:19:16.180 --> 0:19:19.780
<v S5>learn something about sports. So you could talk about a

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<v S5>topic that he has real interest in. I think if

0:19:23.580 --> 0:19:26.940
<v S5>he invites you to go out for dinner, that would

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<v S5>be a setting in which you could give quality time.

0:19:30.700 --> 0:19:34.980
<v S5>Or you could invite him to have dinner with you. Now,

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<v S5>she didn't say whether he's married or whether he's not married.

0:19:38.580 --> 0:19:42.310
<v S5>A single son would probably be very open to have

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<v S5>dinner with his mother, especially if she's going to cook.

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<v S5>But even going out to a restaurant would probably be good.

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<v S5>Quality time means that you give the person your undivided

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<v S5>attention for a period of time. And so it's finding

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<v S5>a context in which you can give undivided attention. Now,

0:20:04.790 --> 0:20:07.189
<v S5>if he is super, super busy, he has a full

0:20:07.230 --> 0:20:10.230
<v S5>time job, has a family marriage and has a family.

0:20:10.510 --> 0:20:15.190
<v S5>Obviously he has less time than she has. If she's

0:20:15.230 --> 0:20:18.830
<v S5>if she's single and you know, has is free and

0:20:18.830 --> 0:20:22.230
<v S5>not not engaged in working and all that sort of thing.

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<v S5>But that's the basic concept is you want to find

0:20:26.150 --> 0:20:28.909
<v S5>a place and time along the way on a somewhat

0:20:28.950 --> 0:20:33.030
<v S5>regular basis in which you can give your undivided attention

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<v S5>to him. If he's into walking and you are able

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<v S5>to walk, you might even want to walk with him

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<v S5>once in a while, even if there's not a lot

0:20:42.050 --> 0:20:45.970
<v S5>of conversation, at least you're with him doing something that

0:20:45.970 --> 0:20:49.890
<v S5>he likes to do, and you're giving your undivided attention

0:20:49.890 --> 0:20:53.250
<v S5>to it. If he has any other interest, I think

0:20:53.290 --> 0:20:56.609
<v S5>you learning something about that interest and being willing to

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<v S5>do something with him in that could be very helpful.

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<v S4>That's what I was thinking. Go to a football game.

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<v S4>Does he like football? Does he like to watch some

0:21:05.650 --> 0:21:08.410
<v S4>kind of sport? Is he, you know, into golf or

0:21:08.410 --> 0:21:12.649
<v S4>whatever to be able to to watch something and watch

0:21:12.650 --> 0:21:15.330
<v S4>something together. And that for a lot of people is

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<v S4>that's not quality time. You can't spend quality time if

0:21:17.930 --> 0:21:20.730
<v S4>you're watching a movie together. Well, that's not true for

0:21:20.730 --> 0:21:23.810
<v S4>some people. That's the very thing that they want, right?

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<v S5>Yeah, absolutely. Chris. And then, you know, you can have

0:21:27.330 --> 0:21:31.290
<v S5>conversations before and after the event, whatever it is. And

0:21:31.290 --> 0:21:35.290
<v S5>sometimes you can discuss the event. Uh, you know, if

0:21:35.290 --> 0:21:38.810
<v S5>it's a game and something spectacular happened, you, the two

0:21:38.810 --> 0:21:40.740
<v S5>of you can talk about it after it's over.

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<v S4>And if you do that, take a picture. I want

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<v S4>to see it. Okay. All right. And this is where

0:21:47.460 --> 0:21:50.460
<v S4>you know what you're going through right now. That mom

0:21:50.460 --> 0:21:54.180
<v S4>and her adult son helped some other mom who's listening,

0:21:54.180 --> 0:21:57.980
<v S4>or dad, because you had a question and you called us.

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<v S4>Eight six, 6424. Gary, leave your message. Or maybe there's

0:22:02.380 --> 0:22:05.500
<v S4>something really positive that's going on in your relationships. You

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<v S4>want to talk about it or tell Gary about it. 1866424.

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<v S4>Gary we have time for one more question before I break.

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<v S4>And here's a question that we have. We have never

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<v S4>heard on this program. Here we go.

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<v S8>Hi Gary. I hope you can help me out and

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<v S8>give me an answer. And that is back in 71.

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<v S8>And that as a marine veteran, there was a General Chapman. Okay.

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<v S8>And I was just wondering very simply if you're related

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<v S8>to General Chapman. That was my question. And if you are,

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<v S8>I would you know, I'm going to give you my

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<v S8>phone number, please. You know, call me directly. I that

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<v S8>would be great as a marine. Like I say, he

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<v S8>was our general at the time. It was General Chapman.

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<v S8>And once again, I wonder if you were related to

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<v S8>him and if he is. Wow. You know, it's a

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<v S8>long shot. But at the same time, I appreciate if

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<v S8>you get back with me either way, you know, yes

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<v S8>or no. This way I know where I stand. Thank

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<v S8>you sir. Have a great day.

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<v S5>Well, this question is very easy to answer, Chris. The

0:23:10.750 --> 0:23:18.190
<v S5>answer is no. But I really appreciate the call because

0:23:18.190 --> 0:23:20.270
<v S5>this is something that's important to him. He was a

0:23:20.270 --> 0:23:24.230
<v S5>marine and this was his general. And here he is.

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<v S5>You know, years later, he still has a desire to

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<v S5>wonder what's going on with General Chapman. Where would he be,

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<v S5>you know, and that sort of thing. And that's great.

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<v S5>It's really great. Uh, but no, it was not. I'm

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<v S5>not related to him. Now, I don't know if he

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.359
<v S5>left his phone number or not. Uh, if he did,

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<v S5>I think somebody, me or somebody needs to call him

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<v S5>and tell him that because he may not be listening today.

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<v S9>Will do it.

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<v S4>Well, and you know, here's the other thing that I

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.360
<v S4>hear in his voice is he really has an affinity

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<v S4>for you and he likes you. And it's like, wouldn't

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<v S4>it be great if General Chapman was was related to

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:03.160
<v S4>Gary Chapman? You know, so and that warm feeling. And

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<v S4>we have to say to him and to others who

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<v S4>have served, thank you for your service. Right?

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<v S5>Absolutely, absolutely. My father was in the military as well,

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:15.360
<v S5>not in the Marines, but he was in the military

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<v S5>in the Second World War. So I have a great

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.399
<v S5>respect for all those who served in the military.

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0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:40.169
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0:24:40.170 --> 0:24:45.010
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0:24:45.010 --> 0:24:49.050
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0:24:55.450 --> 0:25:04.090
<v S4>We'd love to hear from you. 1-866-424-4279. Marriage and money

0:25:04.090 --> 0:25:07.970
<v S4>struggles are pretty common, but I'm interested to hear your

0:25:07.970 --> 0:25:11.330
<v S4>advice to our next caller, Gary. Here's her question.

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<v S2>Hello Gary. I have a question. I've been married to

0:25:15.170 --> 0:25:19.730
<v S2>my husband for over 40 years. Um, I've had, um,

0:25:20.290 --> 0:25:24.890
<v S2>I've had jobs in the past. He's been the breadwinner. However,

0:25:24.890 --> 0:25:28.010
<v S2>now he's claiming that all the money we have is

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<v S2>his money. He has been taking money out of our

0:25:32.530 --> 0:25:36.350
<v S2>accounts and putting them. I don't know where he says

0:25:36.350 --> 0:25:40.390
<v S2>he forgets where he puts the money. He started some

0:25:41.790 --> 0:25:45.270
<v S2>CDs for our grandchildren, which is fine, but he didn't

0:25:45.310 --> 0:25:48.470
<v S2>tell me about that. I don't know what to do.

0:25:48.869 --> 0:25:53.350
<v S2>I don't know if I should open up my own

0:25:53.350 --> 0:25:55.950
<v S2>account and start putting money in there, but see, that's

0:25:55.950 --> 0:25:58.629
<v S2>what he's been doing and I don't roll that way.

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<v S2>So I feel like I really can't trust him, and

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<v S2>I just need some help. Thank you.

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<v S5>Well, the big issue here, Chris, it seems to me,

0:26:09.990 --> 0:26:14.990
<v S5>is lack of trust. And I can understand that a

0:26:14.990 --> 0:26:18.790
<v S5>husband who is making decisions to put my amounts of

0:26:18.790 --> 0:26:23.030
<v S5>money somewhere, she has no idea where it is. He

0:26:23.030 --> 0:26:26.870
<v S5>could be gambling if he's a gambler, you know. But

0:26:26.869 --> 0:26:29.550
<v S5>that may not be true at all. He may be

0:26:29.550 --> 0:26:33.310
<v S5>putting accounts which she mentioned in, to setting up accounts

0:26:33.310 --> 0:26:36.480
<v S5>for grandchildren. And that's, as she said, that's a good thing.

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:41.880
<v S5>But even their marriage is we're a team. I often

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.359
<v S5>say to couples when they're getting married. Now you understand

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.880
<v S5>that when you get married, it's no longer my money.

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:53.440
<v S5>And your money. It's our money. We are a covenant team.

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:57.119
<v S5>And that's why before you get married, if one of

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:00.600
<v S5>you owes $60,000 college debt, you need to share it

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.400
<v S5>with the other person. Don't tell them two years after

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:07.280
<v S5>you get married. Throughout the marriage relationship, there needs to

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:11.000
<v S5>be an openness about money. Now, typically one of them

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.280
<v S5>is handling the payment of the bills and the balancing

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.880
<v S5>the checkbooks and that sort of thing. But they're just

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.200
<v S5>doing it for both of us. But each of us

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:23.080
<v S5>should have access to whatever we have and know, you know,

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:28.200
<v S5>what we have. So, uh, I hear her frustration, and

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.760
<v S5>my guess is he would never go to a counselor

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:34.490
<v S5>to talk about it. Yeah, Yeah, it would be helpful

0:27:34.490 --> 0:27:36.970
<v S5>if both of them could go to a counselor and say,

0:27:36.970 --> 0:27:39.610
<v S5>we have a problem, and here's what we're dealing with

0:27:39.930 --> 0:27:43.290
<v S5>so that they could have an outside party speaking into

0:27:43.290 --> 0:27:49.090
<v S5>that issue. Because realistically, the healthy thing is for him

0:27:49.090 --> 0:27:51.930
<v S5>simply to let her know where he's putting the money

0:27:51.930 --> 0:27:55.409
<v S5>and what he's doing and why he's doing it. And also,

0:27:55.730 --> 0:27:58.810
<v S5>if she opposes opposes that, she needs the freedom to

0:27:58.850 --> 0:28:02.210
<v S5>share that. And if they disagree on it, then they

0:28:02.210 --> 0:28:05.410
<v S5>need to hear each other's perspective and say, okay, now

0:28:05.410 --> 0:28:08.770
<v S5>we see it differently. So how can we solve the problem?

0:28:09.250 --> 0:28:11.290
<v S5>And you look for a solution that both of you

0:28:11.330 --> 0:28:15.369
<v S5>can agree on. Uh, of course, perhaps they don't have

0:28:15.369 --> 0:28:19.609
<v S5>a history of solving conflicts. They have conflicts, but they

0:28:19.609 --> 0:28:23.369
<v S5>just argue about it. And arguments never lead to a

0:28:23.369 --> 0:28:29.129
<v S5>healthy resolution. So those are my thoughts. I just, I

0:28:29.170 --> 0:28:32.250
<v S5>feel I feel for the lady. Married 40 years and

0:28:32.380 --> 0:28:34.460
<v S5>he is handling the money and not letting her know

0:28:34.460 --> 0:28:37.780
<v S5>what he's what he's doing. That's not a healthy factor

0:28:37.780 --> 0:28:38.980
<v S5>in a relationship.

0:28:40.020 --> 0:28:42.220
<v S4>I this may be judgmental of me, but I don't

0:28:42.220 --> 0:28:44.940
<v S4>believe when he says, I don't know where I put

0:28:44.940 --> 0:28:47.140
<v S4>the money. I don't believe for a minute that he

0:28:47.140 --> 0:28:49.620
<v S4>had no where he put it, because this is so

0:28:49.620 --> 0:28:50.860
<v S4>important to him, you know?

0:28:50.900 --> 0:28:53.580
<v S5>So if he if he doesn't remember, it's more serious

0:28:53.580 --> 0:28:55.780
<v S5>than we think he does. He's lost his brain.

0:28:56.140 --> 0:28:59.740
<v S4>Okay. So so her idea of I don't roll that

0:28:59.740 --> 0:29:03.620
<v S4>way I could and I really like, uh, her how

0:29:03.620 --> 0:29:07.580
<v S4>she put that because I could just take money and

0:29:07.580 --> 0:29:09.620
<v S4>squirrel it away. You know, I could just do what

0:29:09.620 --> 0:29:12.860
<v S4>he does. And it sounds like she didn't want to

0:29:12.860 --> 0:29:15.260
<v S4>do that because she knows it's not the right way

0:29:15.260 --> 0:29:18.140
<v S4>and it's not going to solve anything. It may solve

0:29:18.140 --> 0:29:21.100
<v S4>some things, but it's not going to solve the trust issue.

0:29:21.460 --> 0:29:25.420
<v S4>So outside of a third party, you know, if he

0:29:25.420 --> 0:29:27.900
<v S4>won't go to a counselor, you know, is there somebody

0:29:27.900 --> 0:29:31.510
<v S4>he respects that that she could ask to come in

0:29:31.510 --> 0:29:35.430
<v S4>and help them kind of solve that thing. I, I

0:29:35.510 --> 0:29:39.150
<v S4>don't see an easy fix here either.

0:29:39.990 --> 0:29:42.830
<v S5>No, I agree with that, Chris. The fact that he

0:29:42.830 --> 0:29:45.870
<v S5>said he doesn't remember where he put the money makes

0:29:45.870 --> 0:29:49.430
<v S5>me think that he he misplaced the money. He spent

0:29:49.430 --> 0:29:52.830
<v S5>the money on something or he gambled the money away

0:29:53.190 --> 0:29:57.750
<v S5>or whatever, you know. That's my guess. But yeah, that's

0:29:57.750 --> 0:30:02.750
<v S5>a serious problem. Really serious problem. And obviously if it's

0:30:02.750 --> 0:30:05.150
<v S5>not resolved, it's going to always be an issue and

0:30:05.150 --> 0:30:08.510
<v S5>it's going to get bigger. The the older they get,

0:30:08.550 --> 0:30:09.630
<v S5>it's going to get bigger.

0:30:10.070 --> 0:30:13.950
<v S4>You always say, uh, if he won't go to counseling

0:30:13.950 --> 0:30:17.150
<v S4>or she won't go to counseling, go by yourself. Is

0:30:17.150 --> 0:30:18.510
<v S4>that apropos here?

0:30:18.870 --> 0:30:21.270
<v S5>Yeah, I think so. I think so because she needs

0:30:21.270 --> 0:30:23.910
<v S5>to be heard. She needs to have someone who listens

0:30:23.910 --> 0:30:27.510
<v S5>to her and hears her perspective and, uh, has some

0:30:27.510 --> 0:30:31.600
<v S5>empathy because she's kind of alone now in this situation,

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.680
<v S5>it's my guess she hadn't told anybody, but she's deeply

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.360
<v S5>frustrated about it. So yes, if he won't go to.

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.720
<v S5>And what she would do is say to him, I

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:45.560
<v S5>am struggling greatly about this and I am going to

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.320
<v S5>see a counselor and I would like for you to

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.000
<v S5>go with me and see if we can resolve this.

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:54.560
<v S5>But even if you don't, I'm going for counseling. Yes,

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.000
<v S5>that would be a first step in my opinion.

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.960
<v S4>Well, I've given you our phone number several times today.

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:04.360
<v S4>Very grateful for that call from the wife, because I

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.800
<v S4>guarantee you there's somebody listening who is going through a

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.880
<v S4>similar kind of situation and you've helped kind of touch

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.959
<v S4>that nerve to say, okay, how can we move forward?

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.840
<v S4>So feel free to call with any struggle that you have,

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.840
<v S4>but our listener lines also for good news, for breakthroughs,

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.640
<v S4>for gratitude, like you're going to hear from our next caller.

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.360
<v S6>Hi, my name is Joy and I wanted to go

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:29.200
<v S6>on the radio.

0:31:29.580 --> 0:31:30.580
<v S2>To be.

0:31:30.580 --> 0:31:36.940
<v S6>Thankful and tell everybody around Southwest Florida or wherever they're

0:31:36.940 --> 0:31:42.820
<v S6>listening to the radio that when I had cancer, the

0:31:42.820 --> 0:31:46.540
<v S6>community came together. They got me an apartment. They got

0:31:46.540 --> 0:31:55.700
<v S6>me everything I needed from furniture to everything. They got me. Um,

0:31:56.220 --> 0:32:00.060
<v S6>I just wanted to be thankful to tell everybody that

0:32:00.060 --> 0:32:03.500
<v S6>there are people that care. Thank you. And God bless.

0:32:04.500 --> 0:32:08.700
<v S5>You know, Chris, I think this call indicates how valuable

0:32:08.700 --> 0:32:13.100
<v S5>it is to be a part of a community. If

0:32:13.140 --> 0:32:16.620
<v S5>you live an isolated life and then you have a

0:32:16.620 --> 0:32:19.460
<v S5>physical problem or a mental problem or any other kind

0:32:19.500 --> 0:32:23.340
<v S5>of problem, there's nobody there to help you. But if

0:32:23.380 --> 0:32:27.220
<v S5>you are a part of a community, chances are when

0:32:27.220 --> 0:32:31.030
<v S5>you have a problem. Some of those people are going

0:32:31.070 --> 0:32:33.270
<v S5>to reach out, and they're going to do everything they

0:32:33.270 --> 0:32:36.830
<v S5>can to help you. So whether that community is a church,

0:32:36.830 --> 0:32:39.870
<v S5>which to me is the logical and best thing, because

0:32:39.910 --> 0:32:45.469
<v S5>Christian Christian community is just absolutely incredibly wonderful. But it

0:32:45.470 --> 0:32:48.870
<v S5>can also be, you know, a community that you live

0:32:48.870 --> 0:32:51.510
<v S5>in and you reach out and make friends with neighbors

0:32:51.510 --> 0:32:54.430
<v S5>and that sort of thing. But life was not meant

0:32:54.430 --> 0:32:58.070
<v S5>to be lived in isolation. And we live in community.

0:32:58.110 --> 0:33:01.910
<v S5>We're going to find there's a lot of advantages to that,

0:33:01.910 --> 0:33:04.390
<v S5>even if you're not having trouble. But when you do

0:33:04.390 --> 0:33:08.270
<v S5>have a problem, then you really realize who your friends are.

0:33:09.270 --> 0:33:13.390
<v S4>I am grateful for the thankfulness in her call. And

0:33:13.390 --> 0:33:16.510
<v S4>I wonder if there's anybody listening right now who has

0:33:16.510 --> 0:33:20.790
<v S4>a strained relationship at work, because our next caller is

0:33:20.790 --> 0:33:23.270
<v S4>talking about a breakthrough that she had.

0:33:24.510 --> 0:33:28.400
<v S10>Hi, Gary. I just wanted to state that I had

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.080
<v S10>problems with a boss when I was working in health care,

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.400
<v S10>and he and I were like two needles. Um, to

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.080
<v S10>make a long story short, throw a word of knowledge

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.719
<v S10>I received. They said that I was in the way.

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.760
<v S10>They told me somebody having problems with their boss and

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.640
<v S10>you're in the way. The Lord said he cannot work.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.520
<v S10>So I said, that's me. The next day I just

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.320
<v S10>kept quiet. Everything he said, I just bit my tongue

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:58.040
<v S10>and I said, okay, okay. And then one day he

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.360
<v S10>came to me. He said, uh, Rosa, do you have

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.800
<v S10>a Bible? And I said, do I have a Bible? Yes.

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.040
<v S10>So I gave him my Bible. He said, can I

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.200
<v S10>read this for a while? I said, yes, and so

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.360
<v S10>with that, you know, the Lord spoke to him and

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.760
<v S10>there was no problems after. I can't say completely, no,

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:18.440
<v S10>but I was able to work closely with him and

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:22.560
<v S10>I just have retired and I have not heard from him.

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.280
<v S10>But I'm sure that made a difference because he called

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:29.009
<v S10>me a peacemaker. So I just thank God that I

0:34:29.010 --> 0:34:32.250
<v S10>was able to, um, share that with him and also

0:34:32.250 --> 0:34:37.490
<v S10>Christ because he was Jewish also. Thank you. Bye bye.

0:34:38.810 --> 0:34:42.570
<v S5>Well, Chris, a lot of people can identify, uh, with

0:34:42.570 --> 0:34:48.529
<v S5>problems in the workplace because, uh, all of us are

0:34:48.530 --> 0:34:52.730
<v S5>working with humans and some humans have one kind of

0:34:52.730 --> 0:34:57.850
<v S5>personality and some have another personality, and they respond differently

0:34:57.850 --> 0:35:02.850
<v S5>in different situations. Many, many people have struggles with their

0:35:02.850 --> 0:35:07.610
<v S5>boss because they just, they're so different. And what I

0:35:07.650 --> 0:35:10.089
<v S5>hear her saying is that she, she just really felt

0:35:10.090 --> 0:35:12.569
<v S5>badly because he was hard. He was hard to work

0:35:12.570 --> 0:35:15.689
<v S5>for and hard to work with. And she just kind

0:35:15.730 --> 0:35:19.649
<v S5>of gritted her teeth and, and stuck it out and

0:35:19.650 --> 0:35:22.610
<v S5>just stopped complaining. Or maybe she was never complaining, I

0:35:22.610 --> 0:35:25.739
<v S5>don't know, just carrying it all on the inside. but

0:35:25.739 --> 0:35:28.300
<v S5>she kind of accepted it and just tried to be

0:35:28.300 --> 0:35:31.380
<v S5>kind and do what needed to be done. And I

0:35:31.380 --> 0:35:34.140
<v S5>don't know what motivated him to ask, do you have

0:35:34.140 --> 0:35:37.220
<v S5>a Bible? Unless he saw her reading a Bible, maybe

0:35:37.260 --> 0:35:40.859
<v S5>at a break time. But the very fact that he

0:35:40.860 --> 0:35:45.299
<v S5>would ask to borrow her Bible indicates that something's going

0:35:45.300 --> 0:35:49.300
<v S5>on inside of him. Uh, and so, uh, you know,

0:35:49.340 --> 0:35:52.420
<v S5>he apparently he started reading the Bible and apparently he

0:35:52.420 --> 0:35:56.140
<v S5>changed his behavior because she said God spoke to him. That's,

0:35:56.140 --> 0:36:00.220
<v S5>that's her interpretation. God spoke to him. And, uh, and

0:36:00.219 --> 0:36:04.660
<v S5>now she said, uh, our, our relationship really got much better.

0:36:05.180 --> 0:36:07.220
<v S5>So you know what we do or what we can

0:36:07.219 --> 0:36:12.460
<v S5>do whenever we are having trouble with a boss, obviously

0:36:13.100 --> 0:36:16.779
<v S5>responding in a positive way to them. Uh, if you

0:36:16.820 --> 0:36:20.540
<v S5>know their love language, speak in their love language, for example,

0:36:21.020 --> 0:36:24.020
<v S5>looking for one. If words is their language, look for

0:36:24.020 --> 0:36:27.149
<v S5>one positive thing you can say about them and say

0:36:27.150 --> 0:36:29.710
<v S5>to them, though there might be ten things you don't

0:36:29.710 --> 0:36:32.750
<v S5>like about them. But that's why I wrote that book.

0:36:32.790 --> 0:36:36.310
<v S5>You know, the five languages of appreciation in the workplace,

0:36:36.750 --> 0:36:39.669
<v S5>because we're people, we're humans at work, and we need

0:36:39.670 --> 0:36:43.150
<v S5>to feel appreciated by the people we work with. And

0:36:43.150 --> 0:36:45.950
<v S5>that book has helped change the climate of a lot

0:36:45.950 --> 0:36:49.709
<v S5>of work situations. I'm glad this worked out for her.

0:36:49.750 --> 0:36:53.390
<v S5>She says she's now retired and she hasn't heard from him,

0:36:53.870 --> 0:36:57.469
<v S5>which is not unusual in a work situation. But I'm

0:36:57.510 --> 0:37:00.670
<v S5>glad she called because she's speaking for a lot of

0:37:00.670 --> 0:37:04.350
<v S5>people out there who are hurting in their relationship with

0:37:04.350 --> 0:37:07.230
<v S5>their boss, or sometimes it's just a fellow, a fellow

0:37:07.230 --> 0:37:13.310
<v S5>employee that they're that they're struggling with and always looking

0:37:13.310 --> 0:37:17.670
<v S5>for something positive in people and expressing it is at

0:37:17.710 --> 0:37:19.670
<v S5>least a step in the right direction.

0:37:20.110 --> 0:37:23.890
<v S4>Bingo. And I love that about this program that there

0:37:23.890 --> 0:37:27.970
<v S4>are things that come through in people's stories and her

0:37:27.969 --> 0:37:31.450
<v S4>story with her boss, and the questions that we get

0:37:31.489 --> 0:37:34.970
<v S4>and the struggles that you have inform all of us

0:37:34.969 --> 0:37:38.770
<v S4>in the in the community as we've used that word here.

0:37:38.930 --> 0:37:44.489
<v S4>This is building relationships with Doctor Gary Chapman, online building relationships.us,

0:37:44.850 --> 0:37:48.170
<v S4>and our featured resource by Doctor Chapman and Jolene Filo

0:37:48.170 --> 0:37:53.250
<v S4>is sharing love abundantly in special needs families. We have

0:37:53.250 --> 0:37:57.609
<v S4>it linked right there at building relationships.us. This is a

0:37:57.610 --> 0:38:01.489
<v S4>really difficult situation, Gary, but one that seems all too

0:38:01.489 --> 0:38:04.730
<v S4>common in today's world. Here's our next caller.

0:38:05.770 --> 0:38:10.330
<v S3>Hi, Gary, I have a question about how to approach

0:38:10.330 --> 0:38:14.089
<v S3>this situation. My son and daughter in law and our

0:38:14.090 --> 0:38:18.810
<v S3>15 month old granddaughter live about a mile and a

0:38:18.850 --> 0:38:23.700
<v S3>half from us. Our son is in farming business with us.

0:38:24.180 --> 0:38:27.739
<v S3>His wife works from home. I think we have a

0:38:27.739 --> 0:38:32.220
<v S3>good relationship, although we don't get to see our granddaughter.

0:38:32.660 --> 0:38:36.259
<v S3>I'm all about relationships. I'm a former teacher and I

0:38:36.260 --> 0:38:38.940
<v S3>have worked in early childhood, and I just really know

0:38:39.340 --> 0:38:43.899
<v S3>the importance of grandparents in the child's life. They're number two.

0:38:43.940 --> 0:38:47.420
<v S3>Child is on on her way. Um, I don't know

0:38:47.420 --> 0:38:50.660
<v S3>if that will make a difference. We have invited them

0:38:51.180 --> 0:38:55.939
<v S3>up to eat with us. We've offered to take our

0:38:55.940 --> 0:38:59.860
<v S3>granddaughter so that they could go out for their anniversary.

0:39:00.340 --> 0:39:05.020
<v S3>I have sent food, you know, casseroles and such to

0:39:05.060 --> 0:39:10.580
<v S3>their home. You know, I text her and I get answers.

0:39:10.980 --> 0:39:15.460
<v S3>You know, and they seem friendly and all. My son

0:39:15.460 --> 0:39:18.620
<v S3>says I have not offended her, but that she's just

0:39:18.620 --> 0:39:23.790
<v S3>a private person. I don't know what to do if

0:39:23.790 --> 0:39:28.510
<v S3>I should approach her. You know, just letting her know

0:39:28.510 --> 0:39:34.390
<v S3>that I really miss spending time with my granddaughter. I

0:39:34.430 --> 0:39:38.110
<v S3>lived very close to my grandma. There was an orchard

0:39:38.110 --> 0:39:43.310
<v S3>between us on a farm. And, you know, I saw

0:39:43.310 --> 0:39:47.190
<v S3>her every day. She had a huge impact in my life.

0:39:47.510 --> 0:39:53.070
<v S3>She was a Christian, and I just really miss not

0:39:53.070 --> 0:39:57.310
<v S3>having time with my granddaughter. I would like to know

0:39:57.310 --> 0:39:59.750
<v S3>what your response would be and what what you think

0:39:59.750 --> 0:40:02.110
<v S3>I could do. Thank you. Bye bye.

0:40:03.270 --> 0:40:06.630
<v S5>Well, I think every person listening who is a grandparent

0:40:06.989 --> 0:40:12.870
<v S5>can empathize with this grandmother. Because when you have grandchildren,

0:40:13.310 --> 0:40:16.870
<v S5>especially if they live near you, you want to have

0:40:16.870 --> 0:40:20.270
<v S5>a relationship with them. You want to spend time with them.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.879
<v S5>now in today's world. Of course, many times our grandchildren

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:28.040
<v S5>are live several hundred miles away, and even there we

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.120
<v S5>can do face time with them depending on their age.

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:35.239
<v S5>And at least you know it is a substitute if

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:38.680
<v S5>you can't see them in person. I think of course.

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.840
<v S5>And they work. The son works with them on a farm.

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.480
<v S5>So apparently she has a good contact with her son.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.160
<v S5>He is the one, I think, to talk to and

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.960
<v S5>she has talked to him. It seems like because she's

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<v S5>expressed something that he came back with the answer. She's

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<v S5>just a private person. I would say either you or

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<v S5>your your husband, uh, if he has a good relationship

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<v S5>with your son, is maybe the husband to talk to

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<v S5>your son and just say, you know, your mom and

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<v S5>I would really like to see your, your child. We,

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<v S5>we love, we love her or love him. And, uh,

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<v S5>And we'd just like to spend some time with them. Uh,

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<v S5>can you can you help us work this out? Uh,

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<v S5>because the, the husband of the of this daughter in

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<v S5>law is the one that's going to have to really

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<v S5>do some negotiating with his wife if and I don't

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<v S5>know why. I mean, if she doesn't want to spend

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<v S5>time with you. Uh, why she would want to keep

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<v S5>the kids away from you. And you might ask him,

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<v S5>why do you think she wants to keep your grandchild

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<v S5>away from us? Is there something bad about us that

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<v S5>she doesn't want us to have contact with the with

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<v S5>the grandchild? And and he probably he's heard his wife

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<v S5>say something. He has some idea of why his wife

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<v S5>is not open to you all spending time with the grandchild.

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<v S5>But I think that's the route to go. Is that

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<v S5>your husband talks with his son, uh, about it in

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<v S5>an open, honest way. Not not a belligerent way and

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<v S5>not a, you know, condemning him, but just trying to,

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<v S5>trying to figure out what the dynamics are that's going

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<v S5>on here. And it's worth the effort because for you

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<v S5>and for the grandchild, grandparents have a positive role in

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<v S5>the lives of their grandchildren, if indeed the grandparents are

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<v S5>positive people. So yeah, it's worth the effort.

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<v S9>Let me throw this in.

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<v S4>Uh, because we're coming up to the end of the program.

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<v S4>But what I hear in her is a double wound.

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<v S4>Not only do we not have access to our grandchild,

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<v S4>and there's a new one coming along. Um, but here's

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<v S4>what happened in my own life. And here's what, you know,

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<v S4>the important thing that happened, formative thing that happened to me.

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<v S4>And I want that for my grandchild, which is a,

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<v S4>you know, wonderful thing. But there's a level of expectation there.

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<v S4>There's a level of, uh, this is how it was.

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<v S4>And I want it to be this way here. And

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<v S4>I'm not criticizing her for that. It's just how she

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<v S4>grew up. So you have to deal with those expectations too, right?

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<v S5>Yeah. That's true. Chris. And her expectations may be more

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<v S5>than the parent. Uh, the parents, maybe both of them

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<v S5>than they feel. But you're right. We're greatly influenced by

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.759
<v S5>our own childhood, and she wants to have the kind

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<v S5>of relationship with her granddaughter that she had with her grandmother.

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<v S5>And nothing wrong with expectations, but sometimes our expectations are unrealistic.

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<v S5>And I don't know what would be unrealistic about this point,

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<v S5>but something's going on there. If they're not allowing her

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<v S5>to see the grandchild.

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<v S9>Yeah. Well, before we.

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<v S4>Conclude, let me give you our number one more time.

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0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.319
<v S4>a story from your life, maybe there's been some kind

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.359
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<v S5>And coming up next week, if your adult child has

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