WEBVTT - The Power of Role-Parenting – Part 1

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<v S1>Today on bold steps with Mark job. We're learning to

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<v S1>obey authority.

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<v S2>The way that your children learn to submit and obey

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<v S2>and follow rules will affect every area of their life,

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<v S2>and ultimately, they will also respond to God. Unless they

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<v S2>learn how to receive authority, they will spend the rest

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<v S2>of their life rebelling and fighting and never submitting and

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<v S2>usually spiraling out of control.

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<v S1>Welcome to Bold Steps with Mark Jobe, president of Moody

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<v S1>Bible Institute and the senior pastor, New Life Community Church

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<v S1>in Chicago. I'm Wayne Shepherd. We've been working our way

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<v S1>through the book of Ephesians with our series Mark, and

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<v S1>today we arrive at chapter six.

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<v S2>Yeah, in chapter six is just a powerful reminder both

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<v S2>to children and to parents that your children need boundaries.

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<v S2>And it's early on in life that they start learning

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<v S2>some of the big lessons that carry over into our

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<v S2>adult life, like how to respond to God's authority, how

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<v S2>to come under authority, how to lead. Uh, these are crucial,

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<v S2>formative years. And God has a lot to say about parenting.

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<v S1>Yeah, we're going to get into it today here again,

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<v S1>Ephesians chapter six. Let's get started. Our message from Mark

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<v S1>the power of role parenting on bold steps.

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<v S2>You know, it's challenging to be a parent, isn't it?

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<v S2>When my daughter was born, the thing about it is

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<v S2>she did not come with an instruction manual. I mean,

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<v S2>or if she did, I missed it. I was there

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<v S2>at the birth, and when she came out, it was like,

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<v S2>I have a daughter, I have a daughter. I thought

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<v S2>she was a boy. First of all, she was going

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<v S2>to be a boy. And so when they said, it's

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<v S2>a girl, I said, it's a girl. My wife was

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<v S2>kind of under drugs. Uh, you know that they give

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<v S2>at birth. Not regular drugs, just birth drugs.

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<v S3>And she says a girl.

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<v S2>And I'm like a girl. Okay. And there was, like,

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<v S2>a switch of gears, like, you know, I had spent

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<v S2>the entire pregnancy saying, hey, champion. Hey, buddy. How you doing?

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<v S2>I'm going to come out and we're going to pal

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<v S2>around together. When was a girl that just changed gears?

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<v S2>It was like, hey, don't look at my girl. I

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<v S2>know it was real protective, but there was no instruction manual.

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<v S2>And I remember feeling this feeling of, wow, I hope

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<v S2>I don't mess her up. I mean, I hope I

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<v S2>know how to be a good parent. I hope that

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<v S2>when they first gave her to me, they said, you

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<v S2>may cut the umbilical cord. I'm like, uh, okay, I'll

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<v S2>cut it. But, you know, I don't want to cut

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<v S2>too close. I may cut something off that I shouldn't

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<v S2>cut off. And so and then they said, okay, you

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<v S2>can hold her now. And I remember saying, well, how

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<v S2>do I hold her, though? I don't want to hold

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<v S2>her the wrong way. Just because I was a new parent,

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<v S2>I didn't know. It only took me a few months

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<v S2>and I was holding her this way, this way, this way.

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<v S2>I mean, I got used to it, became an expert.

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<v S2>When you're a new parent, by the way, you're really

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<v S2>insecure about how you're going to raise your kids and

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<v S2>your real protective of them, right? I remember our first child.

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<v S2>We had a monitor beside their crib. We wanted to

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<v S2>make sure that if she woke up or anything happened,

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<v S2>we could hear. How many of you had baby monitors

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<v S2>besides the crib. Okay. So you'd turn up the volume.

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<v S2>But my wife wanted it so high. I would wake

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<v S2>up thinking there was a dragon in the room, because

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<v S2>I'd hear it was just my baby sleeping. The volume

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<v S2>was so high. By the time our third one came around,

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<v S2>we turned it off. He can cry what he wants.

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<v S2>He needs to get used to sleeping on his own.

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<v S2>You know, you kind of. You become a little bit

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<v S2>more used to. You're not as protective as like, he'll

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<v S2>make it. He can cry himself to sleep. But children

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<v S2>aren't always easy to raise, in part because we're imperfect people.

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<v S2>So therefore imperfect people trying to raise little lives. Sometimes

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<v S2>we have our challenges. I heard of one father who

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<v S2>was scolding his young son for not doing his homework,

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<v S2>and his nine year old son said, well, if I

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<v S2>just had a computer, it would be much easier. The

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<v S2>father said, you don't need a computer when Abraham Lincoln

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<v S2>was your age. He studied by candlelight in a log cabin.

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<v S2>This was a smart boy. So he responded. And when

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<v S2>he when and when he was your age, he was

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<v S2>the president of the United States. So you gotta you

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<v S2>gotta watch it. Because these kids are pretty smart these days.

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<v S2>But today I want to begin reading in verse six

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<v S2>of Ephesians chapter six, it says, children, obey your parents

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<v S2>in the Lord, for this is right. Honor your father

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<v S2>and mother, which is the first commandment, with a promise

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<v S2>that it may go well with you, and that you

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<v S2>may enjoy long life on earth. Fathers, do not exasperate

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<v S2>your children. Instead, bring them up in the training and

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<v S2>instruction of the Lord. There's only four verses here this morning,

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<v S2>but these are power packed verses that I want to

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<v S2>focus on for the remaining time that we have. I

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<v S2>want to start out just by. If you're taking notes,

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<v S2>write this down understanding the power of your rule number one.

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<v S2>A son or daughter's attitudes towards parents will affect the

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<v S2>quality and the longevity of their life. It says children,

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<v S2>obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.

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<v S2>I looked up the word children there because I wanted

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<v S2>to make sure what we were talking about, what age

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<v S2>group we were talking about. And I discovered that this

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<v S2>really is not talking to small children. It really the

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<v S2>translation says offspring obey your parents in the Lord. And

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<v S2>so I started to think, well, how old does someone

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<v S2>have to be to continue to fall under the category

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<v S2>of having to obey your parents? Now we understand that

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<v S2>a four year old is supposed to obey their parents.

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<v S2>We understand that a 12 year old is supposed to

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<v S2>obey their parents. What about an 18 year old? 21

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<v S2>year old. What about a 25 year old? What about

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<v S2>a 40 year old? I mean, when does it stop?

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<v S2>Is this only for children under the age of 12,

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<v S2>or does this go all the way up into your 50, 60, 70? Okay.

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<v S2>Good question. It refers to offspring and so it's not

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<v S2>age related. However, the latter part of this verse helps

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<v S2>explain the first part of this verse, because the first

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<v S2>part of this verse says, children, obey your parents in

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<v S2>the Lord, for this is right. And then it goes

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<v S2>on to say, honor your father and mother. So there

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<v S2>is a point of transition that we go from merely

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<v S2>obeying to honoring. The word honor means that we give weight.

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<v S2>The literal word in the Greek means that we give

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<v S2>weight to something. In other words, we give value to something.

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<v S2>The opposite of honor is to take lightly. Someone says

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<v S2>something and you just kind of dismiss it. You take

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<v S2>it lightly. Honor means you take it seriously, that you

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<v S2>give value to something. That when someone gives you their opinion, you, you,

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<v S2>you really value it. And it's an important weight in you.

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<v S2>You you add value to the way you treat them.

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<v S2>you take them seriously and the way you approach them

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<v S2>and talk to them and deal with them, that's what

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<v S2>it means. To honor those is a point in our

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<v S2>life where we transition from obedience to honoring. What is

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<v S2>that point? Well, the Bible's not very clear and specific

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<v S2>about that point. However, I think there are some principles

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<v S2>found in Scripture that can help us there. It refers

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<v S2>to offspring. So therefore, here's how I would break it down.

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<v S2>As long as you are living in your parents household

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<v S2>and financially dependent upon your parents, you live under their

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<v S2>household and you are financially dependent upon your parents, then

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<v S2>probably you fall into the category of obeying your parents.

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<v S2>Once you become independent and out of the household, financially independent,

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<v S2>living on your own, then you transition to the Into

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<v S2>the category of honoring your parents, which means you no

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<v S2>longer have to obey them, but you have to honor them.

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<v S2>So yeah, some of you are thinking through that right now.

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<v S2>So exactly. So if you are 18 years old right

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<v S2>now and you couldn't wait to turn 18 so you

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<v S2>could tell your mom and dad, hey, I'm 18 now.

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<v S2>I have no curfew. I can kind of do. I'm

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<v S2>not a kid anymore. Then I'm going to ask you

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<v S2>to pause and think a second. As long as you're

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<v S2>under your parents roof, as long as they're paying the bills.

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<v S2>As long as you're financially dependent upon them. Whose household

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<v S2>is that? That's Mom and Dad's household. And as long

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<v S2>as you're in Mom and Dad's household and dependent on

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<v S2>them and financially dependent on them, then you follow their

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<v S2>rules because it's their household. You say, well, pastor, I'm

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<v S2>40 years old. I'm still living at home, still depend

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<v S2>on my parents. Well, then you need to get a

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<v S2>job and get a life, sir, because it's about time

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<v S2>you start supporting your parents and not living off your parents. Okay.

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<v S2>So as long as you're there now, if you want independence,

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<v S2>I run into this all the time. I run into

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<v S2>a 21 year old that's living at their household and

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<v S2>is at odds with their parents because they're saying, hey,

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<v S2>I'm 21, I can drink, I can do whatever I can,

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<v S2>you know, go in the basement, I can smoke a

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<v S2>little whatever I want to smoke, I can drink, have

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<v S2>my friends over party because I'm 21. You can't tell

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<v S2>me anything. And I'm saying, listen, as long as you're

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<v S2>part of your parents household, you're under their roof. You're

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<v S2>financially dependent upon them. Then you are still under the

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<v S2>obligation to obey them because it is their house, their rules,

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<v S2>their household. If you're grown up enough to live on

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<v S2>your own, then go live on your own. You know

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<v S2>how many kids have gone on to live on their own,

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<v S2>and in four months they're back knocking at their the door. Mom,

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<v S2>can I move in? Uh, why are you back? I

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<v S2>couldn't pay my rent, and I realized I had a

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<v S2>lot better at home than it had over here. And

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<v S2>life's expensive. And my. My laundry's piled up. I've lost

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<v S2>£10 because there's no food in the refrigerator, and they're

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<v S2>back at home. Listen, parents, if it's your household, you

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<v S2>set the rules in your household and listen. The directive

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<v S2>here is towards the children. He's not addressing parents. Paul

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<v S2>is actually addressing children or young adults. And he's saying, listen,

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<v S2>you are to obey your parents. That means you may

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<v S2>feel like I have an opinion of my own. My

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<v S2>parents aren't always right. And it's true. Your parents aren't

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<v S2>always right. You say, well, I'm smarter than my parents.

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<v S2>It may be true. Maybe you're smarter. Maybe you think

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<v S2>you're smarter. You may say, well, my parent doesn't even

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<v S2>come to church, doesn't even read the Bible, doesn't even

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<v S2>follow God. The Bible is clear about that. It's not

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<v S2>a conditional if you have great, perfect parents, then obey them.

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<v S2>The Bible simply says, children, obey your parents in the Lord,

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<v S2>for this is right. In essence, what you're doing is

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<v S2>God is calling you as a child. As a young adult,

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<v S2>God is saying, I've put an authority over you. The

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<v S2>authority of your household is your parents. This is not

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<v S2>a democracy. This is not a let's all vote on

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<v S2>it and see what we want. This is actually yeah,

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<v S2>this is actually some authority placed over your life. Why?

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<v S2>Because in the realm of there being authority, there is

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<v S2>also order. The time will come when you can lead,

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<v S2>but there's a season in which you submit and obey.

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<v S2>And unless you can learn to submit and obey, you

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<v S2>will never learn to lead. How many of you know that?

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<v S1>You're listening to Bold Steps with pastor Mark Jobe. We're

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<v S1>pausing our message for just a moment to talk a

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<v S1>little bit about our Bold Partner program. Mark, let's explain

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<v S1>what a bold partner accomplishes here.

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<v S2>Yeah. So our bold partners are people that choose to

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<v S2>support this program on a monthly basis. It's that simple.

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<v S2>So any dollar amount. But as people that say I'm

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<v S2>committed enough to every month give a donation and you

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<v S2>can automate that so you don't have to worry about

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<v S2>sending it every month. But we're very, very grateful for

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<v S2>bold partners. And we offer special things for our bold partners,

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<v S2>just as incentives to say thank you.

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<v S1>One of those things is your book, unstuck, which you're

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<v S1>you're signing those books right now, aren't you?

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<v S2>I'm in the studio signing these books right now, my

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<v S2>hands a little tired.

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<v S1>But.

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<v S2>We continue to.

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<v S1>Go forward. May your hand get more tired because we

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<v S1>need more bold partners. Yes we do. Well, Judy Krohn

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<v S1>has joined us in the studio because, Judy, I want

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<v S1>our listeners to understand what is accomplished when our bold

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<v S1>partners get behind this ministry.

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<v S4>Well, one of the things that is accomplished are life

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<v S4>impact through our listeners. So your gift to bold steps

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<v S4>is really making a difference in the lives of listeners.

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<v S4>And we're hearing back from people. We are all around

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<v S4>the United States.

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<v S1>Here's Mary, for example, in Florida. My bold step is

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<v S1>to keep reaching out to my friend in need, no

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<v S1>matter how much she pushes away.

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<v S2>I love that. And here's one from Adam in Cleveland, Ohio.

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<v S2>He said I hadn't been to church or read the

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<v S2>Bible regularly for the last 30 years. That changed a

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<v S2>little over a month ago. I was in a dark,

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<v S2>deep hole spiritually, and even though I am struggling, I

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<v S2>realize I need Jesus. God bless all of you at Moody, Adam.

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<v S2>That is so encouraging.

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<v S1>Thank you Adam.

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<v S2>And may God bring you completely out of that dark hole.

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<v S4>And here's one from Cathy in Boca Raton, Florida. She

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<v S4>says after moving to South Florida, I found myself surrounded

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<v S4>by people of the Jewish faith and culture. I learned

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<v S4>of their religious practices and even attended a neighborly Seder.

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<v S4>Today I find myself working for Jewish people, planning holiday

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<v S4>dinners for them. I have the chance to be bold

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<v S4>by telling them about Jesus being the Passover Lamb, and

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<v S4>how I am an adopted Jew grafted in by the

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<v S4>blood of Jesus. And that really resonates with me. Thank

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<v S4>you Kathy.

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<v S1>Yeah, it's hard to know where to stop in sharing these, Mark,

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<v S1>but maybe a couple of more. Do you want to

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<v S1>read that next one? It's in front of us here.

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<v S2>Sure. We have another one from Pamela in Illinois. And

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<v S2>she says, my be bold moment came in the form

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<v S2>of saying no to my best friend from childhood. We

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<v S2>both had moved into a rural community and started first

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<v S2>grade together in a country school. We had sleepovers, birthday parties,

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<v S2>bike rides, and just fun times. It all changed once

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<v S2>we reached our junior high high school years. She opened

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<v S2>her purse one day and offered me some marijuana. That

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<v S2>was a defining moment. I chose to stand for my

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<v S2>beliefs and love for Jesus Christ. I can honestly say

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<v S2>that I have never regretted my decision to follow Christ,

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<v S2>rather than to give in to peer pressure. Wow, that

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<v S2>is powerful, Pamela, and may your children, if you have

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<v S2>them and other kids, hear this testimony as well.

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<v S4>And then another one here, just quickly from Linda in Hebron, Indiana.

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<v S4>My be bold step is trying to apply the 30

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<v S4>days of Love to my husband during a difficult time

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<v S4>in our marriage.

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<v S1>Wow. Well, this is a sample of the Ministry of

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<v S1>Bold Steps in People's Lives, Mark, and we're so grateful

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<v S1>for those who make it possible.

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<v S2>Yeah, we are so grateful for our bold partners. Thank you,

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<v S2>thank you, thank you. And again, if you want to

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<v S2>join our bold partner team, all you have to do, Wayne,

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<v S2>help us out.

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<v S1>Go to Bold Steps radio.org, and we'd love to have

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<v S1>you sign up as a bold partner, giving a gift

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<v S1>of any amount to bold steps. And also, if you

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<v S1>have a testimony, we'd love to hear that testimony that

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<v S1>your bold testimony. Go to npr.org and click on Bold

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<v S1>Testimonies and share your story with us. Judy. Mark, thank

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<v S1>you very much.

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<v S4>You're welcome.

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<v S1>This timeout, a very encouraging timeout. Let's get back into

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<v S1>Mark's message now.

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<v S2>I really believe unless you learn to submit and obey.

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<v S2>And that's why the Bible is so strong about it

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<v S2>when talking to children. Because the way that your children

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<v S2>learn to submit and obey and follow rules will affect

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<v S2>every area of their life. One day they will go

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<v S2>to school and have to submit to rules of the school.

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<v S2>One day they will have a job and being under

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<v S2>an employer, they will have to pay taxes. They will

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<v S2>be in some system of authority all of their lives.

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<v S2>And ultimately they will also respond to God unless they

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<v S2>learn how to obey, unless they learn how to receive authority,

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<v S2>unless they learn, they will they will spend the rest

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<v S2>of their life rebelling and fighting and never submitting and

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<v S2>usually spiraling out of control. Jesus, by the way, the

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<v S2>Bible tells us was in perfect submission to the father.

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<v S2>And Jesus said, not my will, but yours be done.

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<v S2>When he faced the crucifixion, he didn't say, well, father,

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<v S2>let's negotiate here. I mean, I just don't think it's

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<v S2>fair that I go to the cross while you're in glory.

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<v S2>And plus, I live perfect. I mean, I have no sin.

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<v S2>I mean, this just doesn't make sense to me. Why

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<v S2>should I pay for someone else's sin and suffer and die?

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<v S2>Because it's. You know, the Bible says that in Gethsemane,

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<v S2>Jesus struggled and he said, let this cup pass from me,

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<v S2>but not my will, but yours be done. And because

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<v S2>Jesus was in perfect submission to the father, Jesus had

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<v S2>perfect authority. Jesus authority came through the submission to his

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<v S2>God given authority. And because he was in submission to

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<v S2>his authority, he had perfect authority. There was never a

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<v S2>time where Jesus prayed for a person that was sick

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<v S2>that he did not get healed. There was never a

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<v S2>time where he touched a deaf man that did not

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<v S2>receive his hearing. There's not a time where he touched

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<v S2>a leper and the leopard wasn't clean. There's not a

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<v S2>time when he expelled the demon that a demon didn't go.

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<v S2>Jesus had perfect authority, but he had perfect authority because

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<v S2>he was in perfect submission to the authority of his

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<v S2>of his father here on earth. Therefore, because he learned

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<v S2>perfect submission, he also had perfect authority. You will never

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<v S2>learn to lead, unless, first of all, you learn to follow.

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<v S2>You will never have authority unless, first of all, you

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<v S2>place yourself under authority. That's why the Bible talks so

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<v S2>strongly about the need to obey and be under the

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<v S2>authority of those that God has placed over us. I

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<v S2>started pastoring this church when I was 21 years old.

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<v S2>That's way too young. But I believe that there's some

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<v S2>lessons God had to teach me before I started pastoring

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<v S2>that I needed to learn about submission and authority. And

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<v S2>unless I had learned those lessons, I don't believe I

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<v S2>would ever have had the authority to lead. I was

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<v S2>21 and leading and leading people that were double my age.

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<v S2>I was counseling marriages and I wasn't even married. But but,

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<v S2>but part of the lessons that I had to learn

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<v S2>was the lesson of submission being under authority. Listen, young men,

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<v S2>if you're a teenager right now and you're 18 years old, listen,

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<v S2>you will never be able to lead your household unless,

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<v S2>first of all, you learn to submit to the leader

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<v S2>of your household. One day you will have a family.

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<v S2>One day you will have kids, one day you will

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<v S2>lead a household. And you're never going to learn to lead.

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<v S2>Unless first of all, you learn to submit.

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<v S1>This is bold steps and you're listening to the Bible

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<v S1>teaching of Mark Jobe. We'll continue this message titled The

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<v S1>Power of Royal Parenting when we come back tomorrow. If

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<v S1>you've missed any of the messages in this series, remember

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<v S1>you can catch up online when you go to Bold steps.org.

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<v S1>On our website, you can also request our current Bold

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<v S1>Step gift and to tell you more about this month's

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<v S1>special book. Here again is Mark with author and pastor

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<v S1>Mike Fabares.

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<v S2>Well, you know, there's some sins that are easy to

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<v S2>spot in our lives, but others, they're like hidden snipers

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<v S2>taking shots at our spiritual health, and we don't even

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<v S2>notice it. Right?

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<v S1>That's right. Yeah.

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<v S2>And, uh, pastor Mike Fabares, your book, envy, tackles one

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<v S2>of these stealth sins. You call it actually a diabolical

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<v S2>sin that's at the root of many of our problems.

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<v S2>Tell me, pastor Mike, why this is so dangerous?

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<v S5>Well, it's dangerous because it can do a lot of damage.

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<v S5>If you think about the church, I'm not the first

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<v S5>in church history to call it a diabolical sin. It

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<v S5>has been a foundational sin, a cardinal sin, a, you know,

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<v S5>a root of all kinds of other sins. And yet

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<v S5>in our generation, I just I had never read a

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<v S5>book on it. I had never heard a sermon on it.

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<v S5>And I realized as I went through my ministry, I

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<v S5>see this problem springing up with a ton of different symptoms.

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<v S5>But the core problem is that we are envious of

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<v S5>other people's success.

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<v S2>The subtitle of the book is A Big Problem You

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<v S2>Didn't Know You Had, and I was thinking about that.

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<v S2>Most people that I talked to, I don't know if

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<v S2>I've ever heard of someone say, you know, my problem

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<v S2>is I'm envious. No one ever says that. That I remember. Like,

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<v S2>my problem is I have envy. Tell us why it's

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<v S2>hard to self-diagnose.

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<v S5>Well, because I think we often justify the fact that, uh,

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<v S5>you know, I'm just trying to move forward in life,

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<v S5>and I'd sure like to have what he has or

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<v S5>some gal saying, I'd like to look like she looks,

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<v S5>or I'd like to have the influence that he has.

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<v S5>And we think, okay, well, that's just part of our

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<v S5>ambitious desire to do well in life. And we don't

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<v S5>realize that it's starting to color the way we make decisions,

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<v S5>how we view other people, how we talk about other

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<v S5>people behind their backs. And it really starts to just

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<v S5>disrupt our relationships. It can ruin a small group and

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<v S5>it can split churches. It is really an explosive sin,

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<v S5>and we don't often identify it like we ought to.

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<v S1>Mike, you know, when you read scripture with this in mind,

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<v S1>suddenly it pops up everywhere, doesn't it?

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<v S5>Yeah. It does. Yeah. From the very beginning in Genesis,

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<v S5>we don't get out of the first family until we

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<v S5>see Cain rising up to kill Abel, because he was

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<v S5>envious of him all the way to the New Testament Gospels.

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<v S5>It's interesting that Pilate immediately looks at this scene of

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<v S5>the Sanhedrin and the Pharisees delivering Jesus over to be crucified.

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<v S5>And he diagnoses the problem and he says, you guys

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<v S5>are envious of this man. It really is true that

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<v S5>it's everywhere, and it is the fountainhead of all kinds

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<v S5>of problems in our lives.

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<v S1>Well, let's talk more about that in the days to come.

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<v S1>As we continue to talk with pastor Mike Fabares about

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<v S1>his book, envy a Big problem you didn't know you had.

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<v S1>Our bold step gift. Mike, thank you so much. And

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